The Morning Stream - TMS 2536: Twice Fried A.I.

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

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Sheise. And the equivalent for sheise is cucka. I don't drink, you dumb son of a bitch. The morning stream, the beast with a millionized. By just last week, I had my entire car millionized, and it smells great. Good morning and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, October 11th, 20203. I'm Scott Johnson.

That's Brian Ibbett. Good morning. Hello. Good morning. One Earth Day later, we're back. Did everyone mark their watches and check the time? Good day, everyone. It's nice to see you.

Welcome to Hump Day. It's Wednesday. We got mid-week business to deal with today. Midweek madness, as they never call it. Some of this is madness. Like, I got this, somebody notified me on another forum that somebody had posted something in the TMS Discord yesterday. And this came from Daniel.

Daniel BLN is his username and I didn't know this I'm even a subscriber and I wasn't informed I don't know if I just didn't send emails or whatever but 11labs.io which is like a big audio AI thing

it's where I get the weird screaming Mario fake Fletcher voice on film set and all that they added something called they added something on here called some kind of dub some kind of dub 11 labs audio dub or something and the goal is here you can post a

youtube link or upload a video whatever however you want to get it into its hands but let's say it's a youtube link of anything and it will convert the people talking into not only another language so it'll dub in another language but it will dub it in their voice right and they'll also Uh, it'll have full accents, regional accents, all the stuff that you would have, depending on where you, where, what language you're pulling from, which made me think movies are about to get real interesting because if you can, if you can do this and match the actual voices, but it sounds like he's a German guy or he's a Japanese guy or whatever, then why would you hire?

I mean, this sucks for people that work. It really does. It completely sucks for people who do all those, all those people that it lists, uh, after the regular credits on Disney Plus when you're done watching. episode of Loki all those extra people that it lists there that do the voices yeah it's a lot right localization's like a big deal and you have huge huge you know groups of people who do this stuff but all of that aside the tech is kind of impressive and so what daniel did was push us up put one of our tms videos specifically yesterday's discussion about al michael's never eating a vegetable

um and he put it up on this thing and then pooped out the output and it poops out video with this new audio track. Yeah. And I just thought I would share some of what me and Brian would sound like if we spoke German. Now, some of you German speakers out there, I would love to hear from you about if this all sounds accurate, does it make sense? Like, I'm hearing from some people on the Discord that the accents are dead on,

but that some of the wording is nonsense. So I don't, but I don't know how to know. I don't, I'm not, I don't know German. I know Scheisa. I know, I know, uh, mine laban when I get shot. That's about it. That's what I got. Right. So anyway, here it is. This is Brian and I yesterday. You'll hear out of the name Al Michaels come up in English, which is kind of funny. That's the best part. Yeah, because there's no translation, I guess, directly. It's like you're in Captain Kirk and 99 Luft balloons. Yeah. That's exactly right. So here it is. Enjoy. And Michael's what I'm like that. Yeah. That's a good arbiter. You bring you.

That does he. He is a one. I know, when I'm a picture of Metreya see, is that All Michaels, but I could you know not say how his voice I could not say how he was. I can't even tell you me totally good foreshend,

because you this ever done with him and John Madden, with your headsets off. And so I see him in this context. He's always there and speaks in a microphone about an really

important part of the game. But the type has, you know, many superbowls made as one of the great sport reporter all of times. Now, he sets to

to a interview or for an interview with Chris Wallace, and Chris Wallace, e-emals from Fox, now from CNN, like his father, a pretty good interviewer, um, how he's his father,

Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace. So, I thought I, oh, that's super, that's interesting. I'm going to sit. That's so weird. It's really funny. Like the, um,

uh, obviously the drop-in names Mike Wallace, yeah, Mike Wallace, yeah. John Macon, but,

uh, Mike Wallace. My voice, like, I'm a lot drier my voice than my English-speaking voice. You know what I love about yours, though? They get this breathe-in thing, so dead right. Let me play that part one more time. And Michael's 12-2.

That's a good job, right? That's a good word, and I know it's a sign. And I know, when I'm a bit from Metraea. Like, like, taking a breath before I say something. Like, it doesn't... That's weird. It doesn't tick that out. what's here's what's funny when I played this yesterday because Tanner texted me and says have you heard this and put a link right to it I'm like oh my god yeah um at first because I didn't read any of the context around it yeah I thought it was simlish I didn't think it was German I thought we were just speaking like it wasn't until about 10 15 seconds in that I realized it wasn't just gibberish like the beginning you even say something like blah blah blah blah or something like that like it doesn't it sounds like it's it does sound like nonsense yeah remember when we we played that audience

of what English sounds like to someone who doesn't understand English and how it's like all these weird, weird sounds just jumbled together. Yeah, we played some of that here, I think, didn't we? Yeah, we did. We totally did. I think we did. That's what it sounded like to me. Like, oh, okay, this is like English to somebody who hasn't heard English.

And I'm like, oh, wait, no, I'm hearing German phonics. I think it's also the speed at which it was coming at me, was throwing me. Because we sound very fluent, right? And when you sound fluent, there's speed to fluency. People haul ass through their words and stuff. Right. Whereas if it was me actually trying to read German, I'd be like, Leichen Dorf der Fleurgen, and, you know, doing the slow way.

But in this case, it's like zibazab, zozab, and we're just in it. So you're right. It's just super fast. It sounds like nonsense. Did you capture some of the audio when they took our German and then put it back into English? shit what this is a new this is news to me hold on did this really happen yes do you want to link uh i think it is it the tms chatter thing or where where

it's in the same place yeah if you go into the tms chatter and just scroll up to the basically the first video after the gif of uh the guy with one tooth in his mouth laughing oh here it is took that bit and put it back in english here it is okay holy shit i'm so excited all right here we go everybody This is a great experiment. Are they familiar with Mr. Michael's sports reporter? Mr. Michael's, all right.

Travel good job, right? He does. I know his voice, and I know when I see a picture of Metrea. Is that all Michael's, but I couldn't tell you what his voice sounds like. Why are you talking that way? That's hilarious? Why? I sound like the dude who says, are you prepared?

Why is it doing that to your voice? I don't know. I don't know why it makes me English. God, it's so funny. Oh, my gosh, that's great. I got to hear more. Hold on. I couldn't tell you what he looks like.

I can imagine him very well because they always did that. Cut to the camera, standing with him and John Madden with their headsets on. That's how I always see him. It's so deliberate now. It's so like, do you see them standing in the thing with his headsets on? It's almost like somebody's reading a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, um, um, geez louise transcript of our episode yeah as opposed to saying you know yeah basically that guess that is what it's doing and this is like an old trick you could do with google translate and

stuff you could go back and forth but there's always text it was like it was like you would you would change a song title or a product jingle you know from english to chinese and then back to english to see if people could recognize it identify the jingle or identify the song title or whatever right but uh hearing an audio and then hearing our voice that have been a twice fried AI it is like refried beans of a audio exactly yes oh my gosh i got to hear you again jermichael's all right travel good job right we like he does it was i know his voice and i know when i see a picture of matreya is that all michael's but i couldn't tell you what his it's so weird it's so weird oh my gosh that's weird uh phil's i'm having uncaned

Uncanny valleyism like hardcore right now. Yeah, yeah. Weird. All right. Well, that made it even better. That's fantastic. Oh, for sure. Here's just a taste of what Dunaway sounds like.

He sounds like somebody said the vibe they were getting was the guy from the professional. Luke, John Reno. John Reno. Here's what he sounds like on Play Retro. I've failed to open Minecraft the other night. That's me. Oh, yeah. Minecraft is genial in VR.

Tant that you feel like to look on an other screen. I mean, even not in VR, just in general, I've had a lot. Oh, my dear. I just like that's what I get it, Minecraft, like Jave it's World of Warcraft. Minecraft. Minecraft. And World of Warcraft.

So good, man. This is my favorite new thing. I absolutely love it. Yeah. So thanks, Daniel, for making us aware. This is, you guys are using AI for good, by the way. Well done. It feels like it.

I'm sure there's some dark corner here somewhere that we can go down. It's absolutely, you know, the lost jobs that are going to be happening for people who do language translation dubs. Yeah, for sure. Shit. Oh, look at this. Okay, so I just went to see what's up here. So you got create a dub. You can do source language, target language.

And then you can upload a file or a link from YouTube, TikTok, Twitter, Vimeo. or other URL. I guess it can be anything. Oh, but they'll only do 2,000 characters per minute of audio. Oh, no, no, no, I understand. Okay, I see. So it could be the whole video. I'm not saying this is the future of transcription, or of transcription,

but I think it might be. Yeah. You know, like, why wouldn't? At least one step on the, right? Yeah. Why wouldn't you do this? For sure. It just seems like it takes so much out of the price.

If it's accurate enough, if it's good enough, you know, it's already a problem. The L. Michael's discussion is pretty close to what we were saying about L. Michaels. Yeah. So, I can't wait to play this. So Mrs. Crazy Neighbor, her major in college was German. So she speaks it very fluently. So I can't wait to play this for her to see. I'm not even to tell her it's a.

I said, oh, Scott and I decided to try our hand at speaking in German. Oh, you should totally do that. Absolutely. I have a really clean version of that file if you want to give it to her that. I do. Yeah, that'd be great. Because that way you don't show her video and it looks fake. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Just hear the audio. I'll put that in our Discord. I love it. That's great. Let's get her opinion. Let's hear from all the Germans. We know we have listeners over there. I see your numbers.

Z Germans. Sorry, Z Germans. Or as the British like to say, Zed Germans, all right? Right. Yeah, there we go. And let us know. That'd be great. All right.

I got to talk about a thing that just weirded me out. Okay. So let's do that. All right. So these identical twins, this is not the first time I've heard of this, but identical twins marry other identical twins. All right. So you got a pair of sisters who are genetically identical, not fraternal, identical twins, important part of this. And they date separately, but date this boy, this guy who is also an identical twin and his identical brother is dating the other sister.

so we have a direct identical twins dating identical twins all right yes a straight one to one correlation one to one correlation they then have they then each have a little boy each well they get married okay and they both have a little boy each now genetically well let's say it this way legally those kids are cousins but genetically they're siblings their brothers Right. That blew my mind yesterday. That is wild, yeah. Because if you, because it's not like a, it's not a full dichotomy, you know, where it's like, wow.

Like one of some like the math problems that don't, there's no answer to or anything like that. I don't mean like that. But this feels like close to that where it's like, you're, your cousins. Yes. But you, but by the DNA, you are literally brothers. Because they are. Right. Because of the identical, right.

identical twin mothers, identical twin fathers. That was so weird. It made me think that if I was a pothead, I would have had the best night of my life thinking about this. You know? Yeah. You would have had a whiteboard with a bunch of lines drawn and circles and triangles and like, you know, figuring all out.

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess what I'm saying is what are the implications. Maybe there are none. But it's like, all right, what if? what if the what if one set of parents got lost uh you know took uh took a trip somewhere and was they were lost at sea i don't know they never recover the ship or the bodies or anything they don't know where they are they just disappear sure sure does the other couple

adopt this kid but do they even need to because you know what i'm saying i think it's still technically legally need to adopt the kid The kid still is the child of the... So they would have to go through that, you think. The orphaned child would still be, yes. It's still legally have to go through the proceedings to adopt, but... Right. But wouldn't you...

If you were in charge of that process, wouldn't you feel a great sense of redundancy that day? Like, you'd be like, this is a waste of everyone's time. They're literally related. Like, they're... Why are we going through this? You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I think that from the outside, maybe. but I think, you know, they're living in separate houses.

I'm assuming they're living in separate houses. I'm assuming they're, you know, they're raising, they're not raising these children standing shoulder to shoulder doing exactly the same thing. And so it's like, oh, we've had all the same experiences. So it's almost like, your child is our son and our child is your son. It's like, you know, they're still, you know, they're still separated by walls and doors and maybe blocks or miles or even just a few feet. I don't know if they found identical houses on the same street next to each other. Right. They live in a duplex.

As far as I know, there's none of that. I think they live in the same state, but they're not like, you know, in the same duplex or anything like that. Yeah, yeah. That'd be amazing, though, if you were on one side of a duplex, that is the exact same, like, in front of duplexes. Just a mirror image of the place that they start. I love that. Yeah. Okay, so here's, let me add a little wrinkle to this.

Sure. Bill Duran is an identical twin to his brother Jamie. Yes, he is. And vice versa. Which is almost unheard of it. It's crazy how it goes back in for it. So let's say Jamie and his wonderful wife are lost at sea. Yeah.

Does he is already a stepfather by genetics. Right? Of the kids. Even though Bill has no kids. Bill, Bill is, from genetically speaking, Bill is the genetic stepfather of these kids. I think that might be a bridge too far. I mean, I bet it's true, though, right?

I mean, it is. He is the genetic, he is the genetic identical to his brother. He's identically genetic to the child's biological father, but I think that's where, I don't think you can just extrapolate that to being he's a, he's a stepfather. he's an uncle with the same genetic material i mean it's you know it's um uh i know it's not the same thing but would you adopt if you're if you're uh if if wendy was lost at sea yeah would you guys just automatically you would probably automatically take in their kids right i'm sure yeah we do that anyway whatever you whatever you do to help yeah yeah but we did but there'd never be this

moment of like, I am your father. You know what I mean? I don't think there would be that with Bill Durand either. I don't think you'd ever think, I don't think you'd ever think to himself, well, I'm just, uh, uh, I really just placement away from being your father. Yeah. Yeah. I was in a different place at the, the same time. Right, right. So there are, so individuality obviously plays a big role in this. Right? Obviously. Because we're all individuals. It doesn't matter whether we, you know, we're twins or not. But I just think it's interesting that we, we have definite, as human beings, we create definable things.

It's like, you are defined as a mother or father. You are defined as the legal guardian or blah, blah, blah, we have these definitions. And I always find it fascinating when you can not challenge them, but, you know, it just, you know, I think you're, you're wanting identical twins to basically be Jamie mad drachs multiple men is what you're wanting well i don't know if i want it it's more of uh it's more of like is there a convenience factor like could you they're like michael keaton multiplicity is what you uh is what you're uh is what you're envision spectators uh in the chat says identical

identical identical on the dna level i thought they were i thought i thought because that is their genetics their literal genes right genetically identical yeah that i don't that i don't know so If that's a really good question, then I don't. Is it something that changes later? I notice Bobby Frankenberger, strangely silent. Oh, he's not here. Oh, okay. Merrick, Scott is the most stone, sober person I've ever seen.

Look, sometimes these things pop in my head. They've done it my whole life. So, you know, why not talk about them on a show? It's a good place for it. Yes, exactly. Do they have different fingerprints? I don't know, Zoe. I don't know.

That's a really good question. I assume so because there's variation at very low, you know, at very specific levels, right? No matter whether you're identical or not, why would Bill's skin form, well, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I shouldn't say because I don't know. I Ocap confirms. They do have different, actually,

and Kichu confirms that they do have different. Okay. So if you fingerprint, let's say, okay, here's a new scenario. Jamie turns out to be a serial killer. They find out. Okay. Uh-huh. he would never do this he's a nicest guy ever but let's just say for a second that he was um

and they go check his oh we got to check his prince we think we know where to find him or whatever and they check the prints and say hey these look like they belong to a billderans the raid storm storm storm and they go to bill's house and arrest him instead that doesn't happen because bill's finger fingerprints are different right right okay that was a long way of me confirming the exact thing confirming that fingerprints are different. I'm very in the darkest way possible. Yeah. And this whole, it's funny.

I think you were going to go down the road of, you know, would Bill then be a serial killer because he shares genetic material with Jamie? Would that make Bill a serial killer as well? No, because see, there's the important, important distinction. Action is different. You're not just a product of your genetics. You're a product of your environment. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. So you don't suddenly become the thing that your identical twin is. But don't they, they're always saying they got some kind of, I don't mean Bill and Jamie, but other people are always saying how twins, I don't actually know if any of this is true. I just don't want to call anybody out because it sounds like BS to me. But twins, one will wake up at night and the other one will wake up

because the other one woke up all distressed and they'll have like these moments. That sounds like bullshit. Bullshit, completely. Yeah, it's got to be bullshit. Yep, yep. I think it's one of those checkout line. The other checkout line is always faster than yours. It's basically like, what, you woke up last night too?

Oh, my God, I woke up at 3 o'clock as well. And then, you know, the next night, one of them wakes up and they, you know, it doesn't go anywhere because the other one didn't wake up. And so, you know, we don't care. They don't draw attention to the ones where it doesn't happen. Or they don't finish each other's sentences. Or they, you know, don't have. the same exact thought about craving pizza at the same time.

Yeah. And if it does happen in the one time, people tend to take, like you're saying, they take it too far. They, you know, it's like,

oh, you woke up. Confirmed, twins are connected all day long and we wake up every, it's like, wait a minute, where were you last night when I woke up? No,

I slept. Oh, really? So it was only a one time's a coincidence then is what you're saying. Hmm. Right, right.

Exactly. So Janie in the chat says, Bill does not have fingerprints anymore. Too much glue. them together with super glue that's a good I wouldn't be surprised actually I'll bet they're effed at the very least

like they're not complete or they got like a little between heat right exactly touching touching a hot resin or something or you know opening up a accidentally touching the the blade that cuts the foam there goes another fingerprint yeah he'd be able to tell us actually I think we should

ask him next time he's on how are your fingerprints bill are you ready for the uh the booking at the local PD when that comes right Exactly. Or are they going to go, whoa, Will Smith, easy with the burned off fingerprints. You're going to jail now, buddy. I've actually cosplayed my fingerprints to be exactly like John McLean and diehard.

Based on footage and people zooming in really close, I was able to make my fingerprints exactly John McLean and cosplay as John McLean. Wow. Now we're talking. Cooking with gas. Yeah. Cooking with gas, right. Exactly. Oh, I'm bringing up poor Will.

Smith after we find out the bombshell that Jada Pinkett dropped this morning on the Today Show with Hoda. They have not lived together for seven years. They've lived together, but they've lived as separated parents. Oh, I thought it said they had actually moved away from each other. Oh, really? Did they? I thought I read that, but that could be one article versus another. I would think TMZ would be able to pick up on that. Isn't it strange that Will Smith seems to come out of a different house every morning than Jada Pinkett Smith?

To me, that puts a different light on the smack and Chris Rock thing because, you know, he did it supposedly because he was defending his wife. Well, maybe he was doing it because he's desperate to just get her back. And here's a chance for me to get defensive and fight for her in public. Like, who knows why we do things. But still, I thought it because that's, you know, that happened during this supposed seven-year separation. Exactly. So why would you care? It's like, ah, you totally nailed her.

She does. She is like G.I. Jane with that haircut. Domo Ambassador Domo says He says the slap was a sham No, it wasn't. He slapped them. Oh, come on.

Rambi was in on it the whole time. Everyone thinks everything's a sham. Or people don't think. Or there's actual shams. People don't think are shams. That's what I've learned. Nobody knows anything. But yeah, overcompensation, I see you.

That is what I would say is correct. Chris Rock's face disagrees. Yeah. You got whack pretty good. Yeah. All right. Well, there's all that. Now it's time for some real news.

No more philosophical ponderings, okay? About twins and who can have what and biological brothers and all that. Forget about all that. Let's play a game. We should play a game, Scott. I agree. I got to get Randy in for it, though. Okay.

Because he's today's deal. Hold on. Here we go. Okay. So we don't have done away, but we do have Randall Cunningham, Jr., Jordan. Johnson. He's coming in now. I don't realize he is related.

I know. Weird, right? Here we go. Here's some music. Speaking of Randy, he's right here right now. Hi, Randy. Guten Morgan, Scott,

Brian. Oh, no. Somebody's replaced Randy with the dubbed 11 Labs version of himself. Weird. Weird. Yeah. Do you know German at all?

Are you a German? Oh, gosh, no. I have been slowly picking up like video game words and phrases through all of my posting in 11 languages, but now no, not really. Do you feel about, do you

do you have like a, do you translate your stuff directly when you do those posts or how does it, how's that go? What's the process? Yeah, we have, we have teams around the gloom. We have teams of amazing localizers who translate our stuff and get it back to us. And then we have other teams who look it over

and make sure that it's a, you know, correct. And then, and then it's given to me and I go pretend that I speak a traditional Chinese, which is really fun. So 15 years ago today, what was 15 years ago today? Any guesses? Oh, gosh. 15 years ago. I know that, I know that way more than that, today is the anniversary of the first episode of Saturday Alive, but that's, that was 1976 or 75 or something. So that doesn't, that's more than 15 years.

15 years ago today was the second day of BlizzCon 2008. Oh. And it was the infamous performance by Patton Oswalt leading into video games live where he decided he wanted to tell another joke after being asked to leave the stage. And he got very, very angry with the people asking him to leave the stage. Oh, really? And so I was just looking at what I wrote. What did I write 15 years ago today about all of this? And for some reason, there was a leading comedian, like a comedian that comes on first, right? Yeah.

And, you know, like those are often called warm up comedian. For some reason, I called this person the warm down comedian. And I said that he came up and really warmed down the crowd. And I was just like, who was? I didn't name him in my notes. We don't even know who he was. Who's the comedian who I didn't like before Pat and Oswald? And so I went looking and I dug and dug and I finally found out who it was.

And it was Kyle Canane, who I adore. Like my top five favorite working comedians right now. Really? Wow. apparently saw him at BlizzCon didn't enjoy his performance, and I feel really bad because he's incredible. I'm just like, what a strange thing. It's strange. Wow.

Well, he, you know, because you didn't name him, he may not have ever Google Vanity Search that article. So he may not have found your post about that sort of thing. By the way, can I just thank you and Blizzard for, I know I did this in our chat, but for posting those. T-Ls of the three-dimensional characters in what I assume is vaporware at this point Warcraft Rumble. I can only assume it's, I can only assume it's vaporware because I'm not playing it. Well, it's coming out on the second. When is Warcraft Rumble being

released? Second, right? November 3rd, November 3rd. Yeah, you'll get it. You're just not Canadian enough, Brian. That's your only problem. Apparently, apparently, I'm not, eh? Yeah, so, you know, they developed those, there's a guy at Blizzard who, like, got got a 3D printer working on those inside Blizzard, right? And was making them so that we could like give them to contact creators and this kind of thing.

And like that guy, I'm sure, is very glad that's been made public. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's an arduous expensive process. It is. Right. Because, you know, it's not just a matter of taking the OBJ files from the game or whatever, whatever they're designed in in the game.

And then just say, oh, boom, they're STLs now. You've got to make sure they're structurally printable. You've got to make sure, like, you know, you look at something like Blizzard or Holy Nova. There's a lot of empty space there that if you try to print something, it's just, it's going to fail immediately because there's nothing to connect it to the next piece on the printer. So he's got to go through and do all that stuff. Look at this Holy Nova, you guys, what Brian's talking about. That thing would just, if I tried to print that, it ain't working. So this better, I'm sure they've got it, they've thought of all those things.

supports connecting that sphere to the star in the middle and the explosion on the ground or the reaction on the ground. Can I, Randy, could you talk to somebody about me getting my Morgoram 3D print that you guys did? Maybe that was also the 2015 BlizzCon where you guys had all of those 3D printed player characters. That was 2018. 2018, fighting in Stormland. When we did the huge diorama, it was the same. Siege of Undercity, I think. Yep, I think that's correct.

Undercity, right. Yeah. And, yeah, I have no idea. I'm pretty sure those are gone, but I don't know. They might be all sitting. They're backed up on a... That entire diorama might be, you know, inside a storage unit somewhere. Oh, sure.

I don't necessarily need the actual, you know, the actual one you guys had on the floor, but the STL file would be nice. Yeah. Print that shit. Figure prints be damned. Yeah, screw those guys. That's right. Exactly.

You're the Ed Gein, or not Ed Gein, that was the serial killer. Ed. What was his name? Ed Freeze. Yeah, remember that guy? Didn't he come on the instance with us once? We did an interview with him. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he was great. He's the father of the Xbox, the original Xbox, and he went on to do figure prints, which was such a weird flex. He's a lovely man. He's a great guy. All right. Well, let's get to the game. We're going to play a little game here. Oh, we got to bring somebody in for this.

Oh, yeah. We need a cold testant. That's right. I'm pretty sure. our third person is okay this is a new person all right let's see if I can add them to this without too much trouble

there we go it shows they're offline but that doesn't necessarily mean anything if this doesn't work we'll pull in whoever was next after that it's ringing it's ringing uh asset are you there hello hello

yay hello how are you are you asset in the chat as well I'm actually genius Doris in the chat Oh genis Okay cool We know you You're new to this game

But not a new person No No but I'm new on the live That's right You're a genetically equivalent Live caller today No that's sorry I'm still continuing my thinking

from earlier Hey Brian Explain to Genisaurus And to me and to Randy How this works today What we could do I will be happy to do that It's time to play the tadpull

A feud I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics and Scott and Randy are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Jeanne Isaris, your job is going to be more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Randy, but not Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package,

what includes Flynn, son of crimson, and pilgrims, which I can just assume is a John Wayne game. Pilgrims. Bill Grims. Hello, Bill Grims. I don't think. Please collect four ox-tocks. from the from the field to bring her back to me pilgrim try not to get an impacted colon pilgrim anyway

that was all that's fake right that's all made up thing that you think of when you think of john way not the airport no not the not true grit no not uh anything like none of that it's all about the colon the fake rumors that he died of a of a giant impacted colon i don't think it was true i think he just i think he ate a lot of steak but i think that was about the end of that rumor yeah oh wait is that a problem? It was cancer. Yeah, it was cancer, right? Yeah, because at the time, he was like, you know, everywhere he went, big giant T-bone.

That was his deal. Oh, my goodness. Please stop saying that. Yeah, nothing's wrong with that, Randy. Just looked at L. Michaels. Dude looks like he's 50, and he's really, what do we figure out, 136? 136, never touches a vegetable. Exactly. Never eaten a vegetable. Yeah. I just want, what I really

want is for the comparison to be that John Madden was like a vegan who got on the treadmill every day. He's nothing but broccoli, and that's poor John Mad. Yeah, he wouldn't fly. He had to walk everywhere. That's how he stayed in shape, that guy. Exactly.

Anyway. All right, well, let's get into this game here. Randy, Scott, put your hands on your buzzers, which I think are just your space bars, if I remember correctly. And give your best answer to this. We asked 432 tadpoolers. The six of them opted out. Losers. But the other ones told us their answer to this.

Name the worst video game movie. Oh, there's somebody to choose from. So we'll just say the Mario one from the Mario Brothers from the 90s, the early 90s one. All right. Show me Super Mario Brothers from 1993. Oh, I got it. Yeah, yeah. Three, thanks.

All right. Well, it's pretty bad. That's the lowest hanging plum from that tree. Yeah. All right. Well, there's no other answers that will beat that one. So you automatically get Jeannie Soros as a teammate. awesome good luck figuring out which other nine horrible video game movies the tadpool brought up

oh wow yeah that's a bit of a warning there from brian what do you think genisaurus anything jumping up um well uh going back to the film sack day is shit gratifter oh street fighter dude street fighter dude street fighter is a perfect answer we're doing that street fighter and it's funny how many people actually did say shit gratifter by the way i love you guys you people are awesome Show me Street Fighter Number two I always want to make

shit gratifter t-shirts and bring them to TMS Vegas or something But the problem is if you wore it in public other than at TMS Vegas No one would get it No

You know how you do it? Oh my God This is great We got to do this You put it in the street fighter logo But you rearrange the letters So it obviously says Street Fighter in the font

Okay now we're making sense Now we're cooking with some gas that's happening oh my gosh between you and randy we've come up with the greatest idea in the history with the film sat karaoke album we are making the shit gratif to t-shirts hell yeah i love that idea all right so we got a number two i feel pretty strong about max pain genisaurus how do you feel about max pain that sounds like a good one okay man you sound good are you in like a fancy mic or something we never get calls that soundless good are you in a are you in a soundproof booth like mara carrie's things in okay i am not but i'm on a sure mic

Oh, well, you sound great. Fantastic. Yeah, we're going to use you every week. All right, anyway. No, we're just going to send all our contestants to go play from Jeannie Saras. Sure, why not? Show me Maxwell Payne. Oh, come on that.

Next pain, just to make you feel better. Number 23 in the list. Okay. I thought it might be a low one, but, oh, well. Technically tied for 21st, because there's a lot of people, a lot of movies that got five votes. I can't wait to go through this list. once we're done and you're saying wow wow wow yeah it's an ugly list i'm sure it's an ugly list all right randy it's your deal now um i oh i don't know which one to go with first um i'm just going to take a

big chance and say mortal combat two oh annihilation right was that what was called annihilation something like that yeah that's a terrible annihilation was there a three annihilation uh was there a three I don't think there was a three. Okay, so two is annihilation. I don't trust the tadpool to get those subtitles right. I don't think there was a third. Moral Combat 2.

I mean, there's a third movie, but it isn't, not in that time. Show me, Mortal Kombat 2, colon, annihilation. There, right there. Number 9. On the list. Geez, jump the head.

All right. Now, do I go with Mortal Kombat 1, or do I let Scott find out about where that one is? um hmm this is tough this is a really tough game yeah because like this one like i kind of i guess i'm here to guess warcraft i'm gonna guess warcraft yeah because i kind of trust the tadpool to it's on here have over emphasized the downsides of that movie i can almost guarantee it's on here i'm just sure it's mine to guess right but i just oh it makes me

sad but i guess let's see if warcraft is on this list All right. Show me Warcraft. Yeah, number six. Damn it. All right. I liked that movie. I mean, there was stuff to like.

It could have been better, but I liked it. Yeah, there were things to like. There's no doubt about it. Gosh, and there's so many that are like a bunch of sequels, right? Yeah. Like, there's a series that I would love to get into, but I don't know where to go in first. And if I, if I miss, then Scott's depreckels. getting the one so um yeah i know which one you mean i know exactly what you talk about yeah i would

like to see uh we're going to just give past the mic back to scott i would like to see if max pain made the top 10 here oh yeah that's a good idea okay let's go with that one um show me max pain it's a red on air guess right there is it yeah my my third or guess yeah i thought he guessed something else completely. It's still sitting at number 23 at the number 23. All right.

Let's hold on. Let's fix it in my brain. It's got Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, it sure does. We watched it and hated it. Yeah, it's bad. All right. It was a poor film.

I'll guess I'll just it again in a couple of minutes. All right. Can I interest you in a slightly used street fighter? All right. There are a lot at the bottom of this barrel. I was just thinking, I just was reminding myself of all the horrible Uve-Bull stuff. And there is a lot of those, but I don't know how many of these will be remembered.

By the way, two people actually answered anything of a bowl. Oh, did they? Wow. I obviously didn't make it high enough to make it on the list. So, Jeannie, there's this Jason Statham thing from, I don't remember the year even called. It was the Dungeon Siege movie, and it was called, for the, King. Hold on. Something for the King. Didn't it? I was going to guess this. Didn't you like watch this on Adventure

Club a few months ago? No. This is one I've avoided because I'm pretty sure we'll film set this. I know where we heard about it recently. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. Oh, all right. Well, there you have it then. So let's go with that. Brian, is that enough info? Do I need the full? You are talking

of course of in the name of the king a dungeon siege tale. Show me that one. Oh, come on. I was also in that little cluster around number 22. Ah, frick. Yeah. I've never seen it.

I hear it's really, really rough. Yeah, this was mentioned by Brian Dunaway at some point earlier this spring when we were all talking about these kinds of movies. Yeah, and I'm guessing I remember what would spark that conversation, too. Yeah. Yeah, so. I think Rayleigh over than that. It sucks because they're bad, so nobody watched them. So what are going to?

people call it less around. They're bad. Like, um, maybe let's try blood rain. Oh, blood rain. I remember blood rain. Show me. Blood rain.

Damn it. Number 10. Holy shit. Big points. How do they get blood rain? That's another Uwey Bull thing. How do they get that and not the name of the can? I'm shocked.

I don't know. I was trying really, really hard to think of, like, movies that people have actually seen. right that's the trick with these my next guess is going to be a movie that I saw but I just don't know if others did yeah but keep it mind it's the tadpool they watch way more stuff than we do

they watch a lot of crap so I'm gonna hope that they watched the ultimate crap which was double dragon the movie that was bad all right all right show me double dragon colon the movie

oh man That sucks. Bubble Dragon number 13 on the list just outside of the top 10. Wow. How is it number three? We're not even even dancing around number three. What is it? What's happening?

I know, I know. Jeannie, how to, where is your heart out with the wing commander? I've been sitting here trying to think of movies that are not only bad, but that we remember. Yeah. Do we remember Max Payne? What about that? What do you think about Dwayne the Rock Johnson joint and Doom? Oh, Doom, 2005's Doom.

That's a very bad film and also I think maybe it'd be on here. So I'm going to say yes. Let's go with Doom. Let's look at Doom. Show me Doom. It was a really long delay after I clicked that button. Number three on the list. Low points.

No points. But you're, but you're, you're, you're. You're clear on the board, which is good. What do we think, a wing commander? It's pretty bad. Yeah. Terrible movie. That had Matthew Lillard and Freddie Prince, Jr.

Very Gen X, which is very kind of tadpool. Yeah, I would say so. So let's, yeah, let's go, let's fly into wing command. This doesn't make sense. All right. Let's say wing commander. Oh, good points. Number seven.

How we're making a game of this. Yeah. Because we can still win, right? What's that? We either clear or we have enough points we could win. We could beat Randy still. Right. You need, you need eight and four to tie, eight and five to win.

All three, of course, clears the board and that's a win. Yeah. So that eight is crucial. You need number eight in order to, one of you needs to answer number eight in order for Jeannie Saras to get these prizes. That's a guarantee right here. Okay. Jeannie, anything popping for you? two actually

a battleship but is that a video game or is that a board game okay I mean that board game or is the pad pool think it's a yeah yeah that's a really good point this could be a bit of a risk let's think how much would they do that what was your other one persia oh you know what I think that's the safe one

because everyone's still mad at that movie but let's do Prince of Persia I'm too nervous about... I'm nervous the other one's going to give us a third strike because maybe I'm giving too much credit to the tadpole and they're that dumb about battleship. I don't know. I don't want to assume things.

But let's say, let's do your second choice. I like that better. Okay. So you're saying Prince O Persia. Show me Prince of Persia. Oh! Unfortunately, number 15, number 15 in the list. If we find out, if we find out that it was,

that battleships on here, I will, Jeannie, I'll send you some really cool stuff in the mail with the driverless. All right.

Don't worry. Prepared to be amazed by the, uh, the lack of attention paid by the tadpool as we, as we go through. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that because we're out,

we are all now aligned. We're on the same team, folks. Right. Exactly. Now we've got to work together. If you get all three of these, if you clear the board,

then, uh, so, so there is no doubt that all like five of the Pokemon movies, the first ones that, the animated ones are bad movies. Yeah, they're not great. I hate to just pick one. I think I would pick Pokemon the movie if I was voting on this.

Like the first one, Pokemon the movie was, I'm sorry, that's the second one. They're really bad guys. I just can't imagine the Tadpool, you know, like all coalescing around one of them, enough to put it in this list. And I'm sure there were some votes for Pokemon, which does not define any of them, right? There's like, a bunch. There's all the other, yeah, exactly. But like the animated ones from 30 years ago, they're bad.

Yeah, the late 90s, early 2000 stuff are very bad movies. They're not good. I'm sure some kid. Based on a video game or it's based on a card game. Well, at that point, at that point, they would be, well, at that point, they would be, they would think of them as video games at this point. So next, I feel like I should, we should guess a Laura Croft Tomb Raider. That's the name of the first one. I think the first one with the

Angelina Jolly Laura Croft Touritator 2000 or 2000 one? The second one is worse Yeah the second one is bad The first one people like What's that second one called? This sucks

It does suck Is it hard Have we already guessed Resident Evil? No My brain is completely No because earlier you were talking about The series That was the series you were worried

About poking into so you avoided it But Resident Evil But Resident Evil Well, Resident Evil's, there's, what are there, 10 of them? Like, there's so many. But maybe, but maybe the Tadpool just put in Resident Evil, the words Resident Evil, right? And like, ugh. Yeah.

I'm sorry, Jeannie. I'm really, like, really glad you're here. Yeah. It's fine. I feel like, poor Jeannie really got, like, you know, it's like, name a, pick a number between one and a hundred. on paper it sounds much easier than this is yeah how do you feel about us guessing there's only two hitman movies we could guess one of those oh yeah do that hit those hitman movies are a real shame so let's guess the first one and see where it gets us okay all right in the chat so hitman the first with bald timothy oliphant of all people oh seven right oh my god all right show me hitman Oh, come on! Sorry, number 29.

I want to appreciate for the world, all of your grunts and groans, and that you finally ran out of them, Brian. Thank you. Thank you for trying really, really hard. I tried so hard to, like, steer you. You did pick up what I was putting down with Pokemon. I think you did pick up what I was putting down with Loracroft. Yeah. I just ran out of noises that I could have to steer you.

Is it need for speed? Is that in here? Well, let's see what you got? What's for? Number four. Or you talked about this and never actually settled on it. Moral Combat the First. But people are generally fond of that.

I thought that wouldn't be on here. I don't know. That always makes the list of what were the ones that were actually good, right? I would call it good. It was fun. It was not good. It was fun. Yes, that's fair.

Like the newest one is fun, but not good. I'd say the same thing about it. Actually, before I even show number five, I did take what. actually was number five out to give you guys a little better of a chance, but 19 of our friends here in the

tadpool put E.T. the extraterrestrial. Oh, the one that got buried. Because they didn't pay attention to the question. Yeah, it's flipped. It's the other way around. It's a horrible video game based on a movie. By the way,

naming the worst game, the worst game movies, this is the worst game movies. Naming the worst movies based on games is what we're doing. Naming the E.T list, right? Yeah. Yeah. The, what do you get? It's not a novelization. It's a novelization. It's a

movie or it's a video game based on a movie. I mean, it's an adaptation. Adaptation. There's the word you're looking for. That would be even harder, right? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Because there's so much out there. Now, you said something very key there a minute ago, Randy. You said we're talking about the worst

movies based on video games, which I, which was my intention when I wrote this question. However, let's say we're not, let's say we're saying a video game movie that's not based on a video game. What would you say? Is the answer to that? Battleship. Probably Battleship.

I mean, well, no, no, no. The worst movie that's not based on an actual video game, but is still a video game movie. Oh, oh, like pixels. Oh, ready player one? Ah, it's pixels. Pixels number five. Oh, I get what you're saying. I felt like I could take out

I felt like I have to I have to show the tadpool how wrong they are. I mean if it's just the phrase it's a video game movie yes that's that's yeah but it's like here's Pac-Man here's another here's a millipede it was more like an Atari movie or Atari Namco movie in a weird

way because it was all a bunch of stuff but yeah that's a that's the chat room not understanding the assignment they're not sorry chat room sorry tadpool at large we would have we would have dug forever we would have been talking about the legend of Chun Lee long before we ever thought of pixels.

Oh, hell, yeah. Now, if I were to say Fastbender would give you an idea of number eight. Oh, damn it, freaking Assassin's Creed is on there. Yeah, number eight. That movie is really terrible. Yeah, it's unfortunate. Oh, it's so unfortunate. He's such a great actor.

You had decent writers. There's no reason that couldn't have worked. I don't know what happened. And honestly, that game has real potential for a movie. I agree. It really does. More than any, almost more than any other series. You could do, you know, these, you could even do,

every movie is about each one of these protagonists throughout time. Like you would make the most amazing series. I don't know why they don't do that. For sure. Let's go through the rest of these because there are a lot here that'll make you as I go, oh yeah.

Since number 11 was blood rain because I took out E.T. Number 12, Final Fantasy, the Spirits Within. Uncharted, alone in the dark. Angry Birds, or the Angry Birds movie, House of the Dead. Resident Evil was there. Sonic.

Tomb Raider, the first Tomb Raider. Pac-Man, I don't remember a Pac-Man movie. I know there have been cartoons and stuff like that, but I don't ever remember a Pac-Man movie. Tron is a questionable one, because the movie and the video game came out the same day, or the arcade game, I think, came out the same day, or at least released as a tie.

It's a tie-in, yeah, that doesn't feel like a... It's also like a Mortal Kombat. Like, the first Tron movie is one that people think they hate, but then others watch it and say they like it. Ooh, I love the first one. Laura Croft, Tomb Raider, Cradle of Life was the one you were trying to remember the name of. Pong, Postal, Rampage,

Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun Lee. Ballistic, X versus Sever. I don't think somebody was, I think that's based on, isn't that? That's not a video game? That's a, that's a spinoff of, does it even a spin-off? Is it just a spin-off?

Was it just its own thing? Some action thing, yeah. I don't think. Dead or alive, Donkey Kong, Dune, Far cry Dune Dune? I'm sorry Dune

Are you guys even reading Are you guys even reading the question? Why did they say Dune? I don't know Dune was a great video game But also that book was written in the 60s What are you guys talking about? Exactly

Monster Hunter No Man Sky That doesn't exist It looks like a movie But it's also an excellent video game This one's a terrible answer Pitfall Silent Hill Spore Superman 64

The Witcher 3 Something called Utopia in television Only one person said it So like it didn't even make it down And finally Reck It Ralph Oh geez Another combo of characters

I'd love Reckett Ralph too That's a great movie Exactly If you're going to complain about a video A movie that is That is video game themed Even if it's not based on actual video game Rickett Ralph is probably one of the better ones.

According to Rotten Tomatoes, they have the, here are your top, bottom three. Okay, so your bottom three in reviews, like tomato rating in video games only. At third worst, House of the Dead, which it sounds like nobody added on there. Another Oovey Bowl movie, that was 3%. Street Fighter, The Legend of Chun Lee, 3%. And number one, alone in the dark, 2005, 1%, 1%. Alone in the Dark, not... We need to do that for film sacked, I think, right?

I think so. I think we should. Like, he's always bad, but he's in a good way, you know? Yeah, yeah. I like him in most things, but this thing, garbogio. Yeah. Terrible. So I looked up up.

Greetings and salutations. I looked up the release of Ballistic X versus Sever the video game. Yeah. And it looks like the video game came out four days before the movie. So you can't say that it was based on it. Yeah, it's a tie-in. It doesn't count. Yeah.

Yeah. Those nose never can. Again, that sounds like another film set movie. I remember Ballistics X versus Severn. You know, it's confusing that with the rock, the spinoff, the spinoff, the spinoff, and Shaw. Hobbs and Shaw, yeah, exactly. That's easy to do. It's a thing and a thing.

I do that. Yeah. Mix us up all the time. We're both X and Sever bald. Is that what I might be thinking of it? That's a good question. I don't know. Were somebody bald?

I have no idea. I have no memory of that. Well, here's the sad news, Jeannie. That's the sad news. But because you're awesome, I'm still going to send you. I got some new pins in. I just want to send these to people. So I'm going to contact you individually and I'll send you some stuff.

But don't worry, there'll be a future where these codes can be yours. I'm sure of it. Great. I'm really looking forward to it. Thank you for being on with us. Randy, as always, the pleasure is ours. You'll be back here in not too much time, probably about 20 minutes because we're going to do recommendals today.

Oh, yeah. And so you've got double duty today. How's that feeling? It'll be the longest 20 minutes of my life. Yeah, good luck to you. All right, we'll do that real quick. After this break, we're going to take a break. And when we'll come back, Tom Merritt will be here.

We'll do a little tech time. And then we'll get back to our recommendals. That's all coming up after this song from Brian Abbott. Yeah, time for something a little bit heavier than I've played recently. You know, I like to mix up the days. and have you know like a little pop-twee female singer from Sacramento one day and then a power pop group the next day and now we're going to go into well

a lighter song from a heavier band I guess is where this one falls although this one builds this is a chock full of undeniable and energetic tracks reminiscent of late 90s skate punk that will appeal to fans of bands like lagwagon a Wilhelm scream mill and Colin no use for a name name. This is what Versus Machine said about. This guy right here is from Montreal. The band is called Dead Our Right, but it's the solo project of Louis Charles, Britha Youme, who is the front man for the band, Brand New Lungs. Brand new album is called Dancing Through the End of Days. Here

is the song, The Great Ride. One day I'm going to lose my mind. One day I'm going to get through everything. I was supposed to do. behind my eyes a million memories I'm not free to faint a gray a flash doll a mere shadow of myself let my kids know life was such a great ride a great ride my head my head still shake when I think of it all But it still gets stricter every day You might think that It's just cynical

But I've learned to let go of things I can't understand And that I can't control It's not a curse, it's a fucking blessing One day I know I'm gonna have to go And I'll be at peace with myself hell With no regrets

In some apologies But not a single stone Undones Get it on, get on, get out Now As old as I can I just want to die Without regrets

Until my kids In life Was such a great drive A great ride I watched my own and wither away on a bath at least resistance again, again, again. So I took notes, I took chances, I made mistakes, and it's just fine much you might dismayed. I know I make some more alone.

More along the way One day I know I'm gonna let it go And I'll be at peace with myself With no regrets In some apologies But not a single stone of tons Get on, get on, get out, get out now

As old as I can, I just want to die Without regrets Until my kiss their life With such a great ride A great ride One day I'm gonna lose my mind One day I'm gonna forget everything I don't know.

I'm cheering through the decades I don't want any of the days I don't want any other ways I don't want any other ways I'm cheering to my failures And dancing all the tears away Hope you remember me As long as I can I just want to die without regrets Until I kiss their life was such a great ride A great ride

Well, guys, I've peed my pants four times yesterday, had to change my diapers five times. Is there anything unusual that might be given you the Jim Jams? returned who was that one more time yeah that is montreal's dead all right at the solo project of brand new lungs frontman louis charles berthium or louis charles berthium uh from his brand new album dancing through the end of days that is the song the great ride sounds fantastic now worry about the f bomb in that song oh yeah yeah a little f word in the middle there joy it's like a hair in your soup just take it out and lay it on the table pretend it was never there kind of in a tough spot here tom sorry hey look who it is it's tom merrick

it's a east detect on the internet that guy man he knows his tech he knows his stuff he's always paying attention and getting stuff done tom merritt welcome back to the show oh you're muted sorry and still muted i hear nothing i don't hear anything let's see what's that about oh he knows we got a finger we did we did it was it was not the one i expected no we got a finger from tom uh-huh he's got it he's figured it all out progress is happening. It's because I forget on Discord, I have to run pass through. Oh, yeah, right.

This was a recent change. Yeah, yeah, I just need to get in the habit. Thanks for making me sound like such a competent technology person and then have me immediately undermine it. It's all good. Here's the man who knows everything about technology. It's not how to plug it in. Yeah, just that needs to reboot it. But he's fine.

No, it's really, you know, as always good to have you here. been a lot going on lately in tech what's with the fall in technology announcements why is that a thing is that a recent because of the holidays yeah so you you want to get your your brand new stuff in front of people in time for them to decide to drop a bunch of money on it and buy it for each other in December I guess that yeah then the stuff they're bringing out is always launching in November or something and yeah and and a lot of times I think there's a halo effect of that like that explains the new phones the new such and such and then it just becomes a habit of like oh a fall is announcement season so dropbox is going to announce their new enterprise level AI search at the same time even though you're probably not buying that for anyone for their holiday yeah good point give the give the gift that just keeps giving drop box yeah a i search on box dot com did you i guess you've been not to delay us anymore as to what you've got today but um the review so far for the meta quest three have been kind of off the charts i didn't expect this strong of a reaction i'm glad i waited and didn't get the two.

Yeah. Yeah. The upshot seems to be that the price is a little bit high, but considering that the price for everything else, including the upcoming Apple Vision Pro, is much, much higher that, yeah, you're still getting bang for your buck at $500 for this thing. It's funny, they keep talking about it being comfortable.

When it's around the same weight as, the Vision Pro, which everybody says is too heavy. Is it just that it's because of the new way of getting what you're currently looking at through, so it's a mixed AR, right?

So you're seeing your room as well. Is it making maybe that that makes it feel more comfortable? Like you're not constricted in this black space, but you're seeing the world around you? Maybe. Are they talking about the weight of the thing? Yeah, I'm speaking specifically about the weight on your

head. But it's the same, right, the same weight? Yeah, yeah. They're roughly the same. In fact,

the Vision Pro might even be slight a couple grams less. I'm not sure. That's what I'm saying. I was saying it very poorly. I think that people

might be imagining that it's lighter or imagining that it feels more open because they're seeing their room through the... But the Vision Pro lets you see the world.

Same deal, yeah. In high resolution, whereas the Quest has that sort of screen door you know it's color now but it's still it's still low resolution and and a lot of the times you're blocking all that out and just you know living in VR anyway so sure i don't know it's an interesting idea whether that that changes things or not yeah i think it's just the the vision pro pitches itself as a productivity thing and so people are thinking okay if i

wear this for hours at a time is that going to work whereas the quest you never expect that you're going to wear it all day, right? It's just, it's going to be like an hour or two and then you're done. Yeah, Ryan, IGN, their summary was, they gave it a nine out of ten, which is pretty high. They said the MetaQuest 3 is the only headset under a thousand bucks that's capable of both untethered VR and mixed reality gaming, but that's just one of several reasons why it is the new king of accessible VR. And they go into some other arguments about the price seems, it's a big jump from the previous model, right? That's the big talk. But this review and others are saying, well now that we've used it it feels justified like those things it feels like we got stuff for the money

that we didn't have before with the previous model and so i don't know it's i think that's just good news for headsets in general you know it's the most affordable entry still even at the higher price which is i think partly why they upped it um so yeah i'm i'm just curious about it i want to kind get my hands on one and see what's up. Yeah, it does seem to have made an impression on reviewers who didn't say, ah, it's just the Quest 2 with a faster processor, which is, which is significant. A lot of times, new models, that's pretty much all you get. Also, Quest kind of has the entire market to itself. Like, what are you comparing it to? The Vision Pro, which most reviewers haven't had a chance to even try on, or if they have, they've only tried it on for a short period of time.

And the PSVR 2, which is kind of a different situation. That's for a Sony PlayStation gamer who doesn't mind sitting in one place. Like it's not mobile, it's tethered, but it's very good for that situation. And the Quest isn't trying to be for that situation. So it's almost like comparing mobile gaming and console gaming. It's not a one-for-one thing. But I think we are set up, and we talked about this on DTNS yesterday, We are set up for

2024 to be the year that makes or breaks VR. The Quest 3 is off to a very strong start. We're getting the Vision Pro. And that's expected to gain a lot of interest. Even if a lot of people don't buy

the Vision Pro, enough people will that there will be that halo effect, right? There will be that situation where folks will say, you know, like, oh, my friend has it,

or I got to try it. And if there is a killer app, then everyone will talk about it and then the next version of the vision pro will possibly be lighter uh german says they're working on a lighter one possibly they'll be a cheaper model uh and then we're off to the races as everybody else tries to get in and do the same thing and meta's well positioned to be like we're already there uh we're we're inexpensive uh we may not be the most powerful but we've got tons of apps uh so i i think that's one of the reasons they're getting a lot of positive reactions

to yeah well it'll be interesting to watch um i'm sure though you didn't come just to talk about VR because I threw that in your way and now you've actually Oh sure. No, did you all talk about the PS5 yet? Oh, the slim? No. I was surprised that usually they do when they do this slim refresh, which is not new for Sony. They've been doing it since the PS1. They usually specs don't change. They just get smaller. Yeah. Tighter or tighter or whatever. In this case, there are a few spec changes. There's some USBC ports that were added and a bigger hard drive, a full terabyte instead of the 850 or whatever it was that was in there before. that surprised me. I don't know. I just didn't expect any spec changes.

There's no GPU or... King Missled it. Detachable hard drive. Oh, right. Yep. That's right. Yeah. Brian, you mentioned that.

That is a very cool thing, I guess. I'm trying to think what I would need to... Yeah, I mean, it means they don't have to sell two different versions of the PS5 anymore, right? That they can just sell one and then sell the drive separately, which... Well, they're still selling two. So they have the one with an optical drive. drive and then they have a one. I know what Ibit means. Right. There's one model of the PS5 and you either buy it with or without that detachable drive. Right. Otherwise, it's the

same. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. The $50 price is the same, but they're still detachable drive or not. So they're not selling, but then they're selling the thing individually. So if you did get one of the. Yeah. So if you buy it without and then regret it later, you can pay it $3 for your regret and get it for $1. Interesting that they're still selling it as a combo. I guess, yeah, they can discount a little bit to entice people to do that. I was thinking we're just going to sell the base. You get it all in one. 450

if you don't get the drive. And then $80 to add the drive later. Right. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, that's better. They won't have to manufacture two different models. Good. That's probably a better way of saying what I'm trying to say. I'm looking at the side shot. I like the little cut down the side. The little, I don't know, design change. Because it's a

big solid plate right now. And on these new ones, it's like there's a little segmentation there, which is part of the whole removable drive thing but um that looks cool and also smaller you can tell by the controller it's still kind of big though these aren't that slim you know like 30% less space yeah but it doesn't look like it no it really doesn't like it yeah previous model previous slimings like the ps2 slim for example in particular was very drastically smaller it was like wow how that held you crammed it all in there a little another you lost too much weight too fast that can be a real problem

this is a healthy reduction in volume yeah yeah uh so now let's see the PS 5 digital edition is increasing from 399 to 499 uh the full fledged one will remain at 499 that's with the optical drive uh but the price did go up on your on your digital obviously for most people this isn't even a thing you're considering if you already have one it's like there's not really a point you're paying more for less yeah right more for less I love it when that happens love when I pay more for less, but that is what you're doing. But yeah, big deal for people who maybe put it off

or, you know, want to get a smaller one. I don't think this is for people that already have them, though. They never really were. No, I don't think so. This is not a run-out and replace your PS5. Yeah. The PS3 slim, however. You really need two front-facing USBC

right. Right. Yeah, the extra hard drive space isn't nice, but the... Yeah, I guess that's that too. I guess what I would say about that is the only time I've ever felt the need to, when I already had a PlayStation and felt the need to get the slim was the PS3. The original

PS3 sounded like a jet engine all the time. It was so loud. And then the PlayStation 3 Slim, it's quiet as a bug and a rug. It was awesome. So I did it in that case, but yeah, not everybody needs to run out and do that. Anyway, available now for pre-order,

I suppose. They're not in storage yet. No, but it's coming to the US first and then it'll roll out elsewhere. Also, Adobe Max, happening. I don't know you've tracked that, adding a bunch of upgrades to their machine learning models, their large language models. Generative match is one of the things coming in Firefly 2 so that you can generate an image. If you don't know, Firefly is Adobe's image generator, so you can do text to image. You can generate an image based on another image. So you could highlight an image you've already

got and say in text, okay, make me an image with these same. colors or in the same style but you know throw a duck in there or whatever right this is uh so i've had a few artist friends say that they are looking forward to this because finally they get to train their own work for their own reasons yeah so they'll put in their own art and say all right i'm pretty happy with the way this was composed or colored or whatever whatever your reason for doing it is show me um a perspective shot of the same world but do it in but whatever whatever your prompt is yeah and now that artist has a jump start on what they want to do next or whatever.

I could see that being pretty beneficial to individuals anyway. So we'll see what happens there. But yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that this particular event is like pretty heavy loaded on the AI side. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's almost. Adobe is getting a vector model. Yeah.

First time Adobe has done text to vector. Yeah. Not the first company to do it. First time Adobe's done. Oh, text straight to vector. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

Not just converting it. Make me a vector. There's also a demonstration they showed off for the future. That one's not out yet where you could just do like a real scratch drawing and then say turn that into a vector and it'll clean it up like that. Jeez. Yeah. That saved me so much time from placing splines. Yes. Reticulating those spines. Here's the one. The big takeaway for me is from all these AI introductions in image software and especially the leading company doing that, Adobe and some others to a lesser extent. Some people are mad about it.

like, well, what's all this focus on just automating everything? It's like, what I'm supposed to do? You know, you're not making my life easy. Yeah, why are you making life simpler? But I think regardless where you stand on those issues and they're complicated, they'd be stupid not to. They'd be so dumb not to be like going head first into this because if they don't, someone else will, of course they are.

Of course they're going to be like at the forefront of this because you're going to just go ahead and let, you know, open AI or somebody else do it? No. you're Adobe. You've got to get ahead of the game. So I'm not, I'm not shocked by that. Yeah. And if you don't have like a moral or ethical problem with AI, which if you do, you're just not going to like anything anybody does with AI. But if you're got a more nuanced version of like, you know, I want training data to be handled different. I want artist rights to be respected better, which I think are reasonable things to believe. Adobe's doing it right. Adobe is training things only on stuff they own. They have a lot of impediments to, you know, stopping people from abusing things, stopping their projects from making something unexpected. And they're working with other companies. One of the things they announced at Max was an image to put on AI generated images. It's a little mark, a little watermark that says CR in it.

Microsoft is going to adopt this too to show the provenance. Adobe's been kind of leading the way on. tracking things and letting you see how an image was made. Granted, if a bad actor wants to hide that, they can. They can use other tools, but Adobe is making it easy for folks who want to say like,

hey, if you want to check my work, here you go. So I feel like Adobe is being cautious and conservative in how they implement this stuff while still implementing it. Do we know what that CR stands for? Like I would have thought it would have been a little watermark that said AI as opposed

to CR. Short for creative. maybe creative cloud yeah i but but it's it's it's not creative cloud i think it it's um uh content credential i think it's the the c r is for credential so oh interesting well i like it though that's a step in the right direction it is for sure and of course they're going to do it this freaking adobe man who'd you expect to do image generation crap like of course they're all up in this so anyway that'll be fun to to sum all that up and find out what's going on and you can find stories like coverage of the Adobe conference and other cool things happening on the Daily Tech News show.

I'm on there today. Tom's not there today, but me and Sarah are going to be there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's going to be fun. I'm looking forward to that. It looks like Sarah wants to talk about that Utah law against TikTok. Oh, good, because here we go. It's been a lot of talk around here.

The teens aren't happy. They're not, they're not stuff. The TikTok teens are unhappy. They're going to rise up and storm the Capitol. I don't know what they're going to do, but that'll be fun. So, yeah, we'll talk about that and other headlines of the day and other cool stuff going on in the world of tech. So do check that out at 230 Mountain Time. No, sorry, two mountain time.

It's not 230 anymore, is it? Used to be 230 years ago. Why do I do that still? It doesn't make sense. Old habits are hard to break. They really are, truly. Tom, Mary, do you have any old habits you're working on right now that people can check out and find? I do.

I do. And you shouldn't try it yet because you have to pay for it. And I don't want you to feel like you're getting being experimented on. But I have a paid version of my tech newsletter, TechTom at Substack, and I'm experimenting with just writing up every morning the stories that I look at and think, well, that's interesting. These aren't stories that might make it into Daily Tech headlines or Daily Tech News Show, because the purpose there with Daily Tech News show is to compare views and have a lot of different perspectives. The idea with Daily Tech headlines is

here's the most important stuff you need to know to understand but this newsletter that I'm developing is more here's stuff I'm keeping an eye on here's my opinion on these particular stories and so I'm developing that with a few folks who are willing to be paid subscribers for that at Substack so like I said I don't expect you to pay for that but I will let you know when I feel like

okay, it's in shape and it's worth it. So keep an eye out for that. All right, very nice. And you can find a lot of this stuff over on your website, tommerit.com, right? Yeah, yeah. Or in substack. I have a food newsletter in substack too.

Yeah, I'm just making all this stuff up at this point. But Tom is everywhere. He's all places at once. You just need to take my word for it. Too many places. Tom Merritt, everybody. Ace Detect on all the socials. We'll see you next time.

Thanks, y'all. Bye now. Oh, weird. Weird? Nope, not weird, I guess. I thought it disconnected us, but it didn't do it. So I don't know why I thought that. There was a brief message, and then it went away.

Discord gods are treating me bad today. That's fine. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's all fine. All right, let's get Randy back in. It's getting back in the pool. Okay, all right.

Coming to the deep end, maybe the shallow end. I don't know. Where do we want Randy? What end of the pool do we want him in? the warm the warm end right around me okay the warm in where you're sitting the warm little circle right around your little your little aura of warmth coming from nothing nothing other than you're just your your smiling personality not it's not your pee at all it's right exactly exactly well what do you recommend i'll tell you what we recommend stuff on streaming services and today

we have randy no nicole she had some stuff so we're we're going to forage on with her? Wait, foraging? Nope, that's getting berries and stuff. Forge on. Forge? Probably Forge on. Forge on? Golly, it sounded right. Forage on. But yeah, I think... It's not right, is it? Because that's nuts and berries and shit. Right, exactly. Like, you're picking up things. Well, I just found a... Forge on. I found a Randy Deluxeberry hanging off the lowest tree. Hello, Randy. How are you? Hello. Professional editor here. It is Forge on. And it's very rarely used. It's not worth keeping in your vocabulary.

Okay. I'm going to start saying, what can I tell people to do? Oh, you know what I like? I like what people say, is it walk on? Like it's almost like it's like, it's like, oh, it's British or something where they go, like they want someone to F off, but they say, keep going, but it's not keep going. It's, just walk away. Walk on.

I really enjoy the whole This course in The Hobbit Where the Hobbit says good morning In four different ways Yeah, that's always fun Jog on, that's it, jog on I like the phrase But it doesn't sound good coming out of an American

It needs to be an Irish person, a British person Somebody from a place where they got kind of a sharp accent And they can go jog on And that person feels offended and leaves That's a great way to say it Thank you, chat rooms are coming in my It seems like there was a Cheech and Chong song called walk on.

Cheech and Chong song Walk on. Oh, float on. Oh, float on. Yes. Okay. Oh my gosh. That is,

I can't believe how far back that I haven't listened to Cheech and Chong albums in 30 years. Yeah, Dave's not here, man. It's completely unrelated. Fair point. All right, let's get to these recommendations.

We have some, if not many. And we're going to start with Brian because we always do. Brian, what do you got here for us today? Yes. So this is, I've hinted about this one a little bit

because it blows my mind. It is a very well-written show with a great cast, with a showrunner who's got some terrific credits to his name. But for whatever reason, the acting just feels wooden, and I can't, it must be something I can only blame on the directors. However, all that said, I still highly recommend it. Let's get to the audio clip. It all starts with a single,

phone call here we go uh yes go ahead um night action they they they told me to tell you that code please um pen clock door fire hello are you still there is this uh sidewinder or gazelle what i don't understand what street did your best friend elaine live on i didn't have a friend elaine okay. Who are you? Who did I call? Look, I need to keep this line open. All right, you've reached a wrong number. No, no, no, no, please, please. My aunt, Emma, Emma Campbell, her and my Uncle Henry are in danger. They told me to call you.

Hello? Yeah, I'm listening. They're in danger. There's intruders, and I think they're after me, too. How many intruders are there? I think, too. I saw him. I saw one of them. I saw his face. Contact Farron Hawkins We have a night action alert Sidewinder and Gazelle

Oh my God, what's happening? It's going to be all right Okay, what's your name? Rose Rose, I'm Peter I'm going to help you It sounds, you're right It has a weird

Fake actor thing There is, yeah And so this isn't like an Asian language thing Where people are doing English dubbing? I know, it is actually You know, it was done in English And performed in English and yeah, no, this is

a Sean Ryan joint Sean Ryan, the guy who did the shield and the unit and lie to me. This is a new thing that he's got on Netflix called The Night Agent. And this is based on the novel by Matthew Quirk. You heard Gabriel Basso

there. You know him from the Big Sea, Super 8, Kings of Summer. He looks like if you put all of the the handsome chrises of Hollywood into a blender, this is what you'd pour into a glass. Wow. That's a interesting way to look at it. Yeah, I like that.

Like all the parts of all the chrises just kind of put into there. And also, Luciana Buchanan is who you hear as well in there. I didn't recognize her from anything else, but she's really good. She actually is one of the better performers in this thing. I think even Gabriel Basso is very good. It's kind of like your 24, your Jack Bauer kind of intense drama. Basically, here's the premise.

This guy, Peter Sutherland, Thutherland, who you're hearing there, works as the night agent. He works in the bowels of the FBI. He's purely there to answer this phone for his night shift where, agents can call in and say, hey, I've been compromised. Here's my code. And then he will route it to the appropriate people to handle, the appropriate agents to handle. In this case, though, he gets more involved because he kind of breaks his rules you heard there. He's, you know, way, you didn't say the right code. I should probably hang up. All right, I'm going to help you. And so he does get more involved in this whole conspiracy

see about a mole in the U.S. government. Some other people that you know in this thing, D.B. Woodside we've seen in a bunch of other things, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Temptations, Parenthood.

And Hong Chow, who's one of my favorite actresses of the last 10 years. I mean, she was incredible in The Whale as Brendan Fraser's best friend, but we've seen her in downsizing. We've seen her in the Watchman TV series, and she's just great. She, for some reason, gives one of the most wooden performances I've ever seen, and I can't figure out why, because she's so great. She

was nominated this year for Best Supporting Actress thing. Do you think when that happens it's a director thing, or it's like a maybe... I think it's a director thing. That actually is what I blame it on. They do a thing that you see a lot with a series these days where you get different directors for every episode. And maybe that is, you know, there's some episodes that maybe feel a little bit more cohesive than others. But, and there are names like, you know, Seth Gordon, Guy Furland, Rama, Mosley.

But the one that surprised me the most is Adam Arkin directed a couple episodes of this thing. He directed a couple of Fargo season two as well. He's got director chops. He does have director chops. And in, you know, looking at the episodes that he did, those were particular bright spots. Oh, interesting. So you're probably right. I just wondered if maybe they were aiming for a certain tone.

And so everybody acting, not poorly, but acting in that way was supposed to add to a tone, but it just didn't work or something? Maybe. Yeah, maybe. The thing I'd probably equate this to, if it's not 24, I would definitely compare it to bodyguard or the bodyguard. or The Bodyguard, the one with Rob Stark. Oh, that was a great... I love that show. That was great.

Yeah. This has that same feel and tone and the storyline. You know, really gripping tension and a fantastic story. And if you can just... And we were able to get past the acting fairly quickly. It just surprised us early on. But once you get past that, it's a really, really good watch. It's a very gripping, compelling watch.

How many episodes in the... season? 10 episodes, about an hour long each. We got more coming or is, uh, do we know if it's, yeah, this is, uh, supposed to be a, let's see, continuing series and, uh, March of this year, Netflix renewed it for a second season. Okay. So, yeah, I know it's spent a bunch of time in the little top 10 thing they always show in.

Yes. When I first came out, it was in there a lot. So I thought, well, whatever this is must be okay because, you know, yeah, it's in their top three or whatever. So, uh, yeah. The night agent. Worth it. Just get past the acting. And who knows? Maybe, you know, maybe Tina and I were just put off by it. And it's really not that bad. Maybe it's the case. But the night agent and the rest of it, excellent and worth watching. Netflix, everyone. Turning the microphone in Randy's direction. Randy, I've got a clip here for you. Do you would like to set this up some? Or do you want to do that? It's been a couple weeks now. So let's see. Yes, I remember what the show is. I don't.

remember the clip exactly um this is one of my favorite shows now like it's where we're into this is as as good as it gets for me i really want to encourage everyone to watch this show uh that's a this clip you're going to hear is a couple of guys who are but they both did time and they're both uh sharing a garage bedroom in the morning all right here we go Talk. Pick up your shit. It's on my side. Every day it's the same thing with you. Do something with your life. Go get a job.

You should try giving up. Shit is tight. You know what? I pity you. Damn. Over here trying to get my day started. Now I'm sitting here, feel with pity? Back to this fool. This fool is just a diamond in the rough. We have a comedian that you never heard of before this show

because he was very small time named Chris Estrada, who plays the lead. And he, of course, is buddy here is Frankie Kinyonis, who has made a name for himself as Creeper on TikTok. Frankie Kinyonis is another small-time comedian, and they came together. They got money from Fred Armisen to make a show, and the show is awesome. It's so funny. It's very, very R-rated. Just want you to just want to remind you.

I recommended season one last year. I'm recommending season two right now because it's out and it's real good. And they actually did some development on this show between season one and season two. It's a sitcom. So, you know, there's only so much you can do. I like to call it one day at a time. Only it's about former gangsters who got out of prison. Yeah.

Which is like that right there is. But it's very, very, very funny. And in season two, they start doing themes. and the themes the theme shows are just incredible like there's there's a whole episode in season two that where they leave the main characters behind entirely and they develop these other characters

and so like that's one of those things that prestige television shows sometimes do right and you're like what is this fool doing here but it's an incredible episode it's so moving and it's like touching it's about an older woman who retires and has to deal with, you know, not having a job anymore. Sure.

The show is, I just want to say, again, incredibly crass. This is as R-rated as you can get. So, for instance, one of their friends is a former gangster who became a minister in prison, got out of prison, started being a minister, what didn't really enjoy it. So he decided to start trading on the fact that he has the largest penis in the world. Great. And the jokes about it are nonstop around this character. It's not for the kids, is what I'm saying.

All right. But if you're really into penises, get in there. Get on that. Well, that's cool. I will, that sounds like, I've been hearing that was good. So it's nice to have some confirmation. It's in my like three reasons to subscribe to Hulu. Wow.

Like seriously, that's where, that's where this is. What are your other two? Just curious what those are. I feel like if you haven't watched murders in the building, like, the first season or two, you're really missing out. That is one of the best things that's come along in a long time. We just finished the new season a couple nights ago and really enjoyed it. Yeah. I hear a lot of, like, people saying, oh, third season sucks or second season sucks.

It's a great show. It's just like, enjoy it. They did a good job. It's fun. My other one right now is reservation dogs, as we've discussed. And it's just like reservation dogs feels important. important to me. This fool is funny. It's not important, but it's so fun. I just really enjoy, you know, like, these guys are, these guys are pouring everything they have comedically into making you laugh. And it's just the perfect setting, right? Like, it's somewhere in L.A. They never actually say, you know, they don't say, the stelae you know seventh street they but like they they definitely depict it yeah yeah well i'm in

that sounds like a great show and i will not have children around while i watch it yes please don't don't watch it at work either scott no no i mean i don't want the boss after me no all right this is season two all right go check it out hulu uh here is mine this is a documentary it's season two of one i recommended on the show before i think it's uh worthy of follow-up here's my clip. You got to court, you know, around 8 a.m. in the morning, court usually started around 9 or 9.30. There was a line of people wrapped around the courthouse. It looked like a ride to get onto a Disney roller coaster. We are heading straight into the courtroom. I'll see you, South Carolina. People took pictures of all the news outlets, some even filmed social media

videos. My team and I arrived to the Colleton County Courthouse at about 8 o'clock. You know, it is just madness here, really. goes on and on and on. All right. So that's kind of nondescript. But the show is called the Murdaugh murders, a Southern scandal. This is season two. And the first season came out a year or more ago.

And it was right up. And they told the story of these killings and these murders right up to the point that the dad was arrested for being the one that pulled the trigger and was faking the whole thing out and making everybody think it was somebody else. And that's as far as I've got. because that's also as far as the case had gotten. So in the intervening months, there was progress in the case. He was found guilty in kind of an overwhelming way. And nobody was quite sure what happened in the courtroom to drive the jury to make that decision so very quickly.

And season two is all about revealing what those things were. And I guess I would say if you like true crime documentaries, this is a good one. It's not the best one ever made. It's a pretty good one, and I think the second season does bring a lot of new stuff to the table and makes it worth it. You know, unlike, I don't know, Tiger King's season two is stupid. Just a waste of time. Such a money grab or a... Yeah, and you could tell.

You just feel it from the moment it started. I had to bail on that. But this one is like actual follow-up on a thing that you kind of had hanging on the last season. It wasn't like a cliffhanger, but there were a lot of things you just have answers for. And this brings those to light. I think the story around the whole thing is super weird and fascinating. And it's good. You know what you're getting into, though.

If you've seen true crime documentaries, you know what this is. And that's exactly what it is. There's a lot of in-court footage. There's a lot of talking to new witnesses, some people that were on the jury, some people that worked for the Murdaws at the time of these murders that we didn't hear from in the first season because they can talk now. So it's a lot of that sort of stuff. um there's another documentary about this family on hbo i forget what it's southern something it's got hold on another name um it's a little more sensationalized i didn't like it as much as this one this one

is is at least mostly focused on facts and not fake drama or creating music moments it's called low country low country that's it it was okay but i think this is better um and now that there's two seasons it feels like a more complete package uh so worth checking out if you uh if you're into that sort of thing and you already know if you are if you like true crime stuff you already know if you don't like it you already know so what i want to know is every this this occurs to me every time i read or hear about someone who has some money usually and they die in a boating accident or in a small plane yeah are we supposed to ever get in boats or small planes.

It happens more than you, like it does feel, it's probably just coincidence or it's the ones we hear about, right? Because it's Kobe Bryant or it's some other, you know, the co-founder of DuPont or somebody somewhere is a big deal that go down in a plane, JFK Jr., whatever. So I think there may be a confirmation bias going on with that where lots and lots and lots of people die on boats and other things, but they're just not prominent names so we don't hear about them. So we only hear about it when they're prominent. So we start attaching the idea that, well, all prominent people are just a day away from dying in a boat or a plane. I don't

know. It's hard to say, but you're not wrong. It does sound too easy, right, to say like, well, you know, do you want to be like Buddy Holly or John Denver or Richie Valens or Leonard Skinner, Dr. Stevie Ray Vaughn or Ronnie Van Zand. Like, oh my God, stop. Right? It sounds like small planes are a death sentence that can't be that can't be like people go out in boats on lakes all the time right they're not that

how did these people die in a boat Scott you watched it how do you well the kids the whole boat thing was a kid the rich guy's son's girlfriend got killed in the boat and the boat things were it started

or where things started to fall apart but it turns out this family got some history man there is some bullshittery going on and the drug abuse alone is a fascinating little tangent but there is uh it goes crazy places and really speaks to the idea of people in power even in places no one knows about in small communities that no one's ever been there are power structures that if not you know attended to properly can lead to death and all sorts of terrible things and that's kind of what these documentaries are about or these these seasons when i say seasons by the way it's only like

three episodes per season. They're short. So it's like, you know, I can't think what to compare it to, but it's like documentary season is not always 10 episodes or whatever. It's like three to six or something. I think this new season's three. I feel like in your household, Scott, every season is documentary season. Oh, I love me some documentaries. Big fan. And this is a good one. So if you're interested in that stuff at all, go check it out. And of course, Brian will have all three of our entries today up on QuickTMS.L.I. Probably already up there. Already does. So go check those out. Randy, is there anything? else you'd like to say today before we let you go? Just watch, please watch the haunting with me, and we're going to talk about that on Sunday. Yeah, the haunting with the Owen, it's the Owen Wilson haunting, right? Yes. Not the old one, the newish haunting. Right, the new, the newish one, yes. In German, it's called Das Bukenda.

Oh, well. Oh, good. Now somebody doesn't have to translate you into a German. Thank goodness. Save them the trouble. Bye now. All right. Randy is now gone from the building.

there are no randy's in the building right only randy's in the bill wait that doesn't work then there'd be only randy's no randy's in the building no randies no no lieutenant you are all right moving on i edge it down as uh well never mind you might use it next next week for your recommend so never mind oh did you have me down something else was it um shit give me some initials i don't remember what that's h h another documentary oh Uh, yeah, I think that is, well, I mean, I could do it next. Now I don't remember what it was. Hold on.

You're all type in our chat. Not like it matters, but, uh. Did I put this in last week before I canceled Wednesday last week? I think you did. Yeah, I think you did. Or, or I'm confused. Oh, yep. S.H. You're right. That will be next week. Yep. Yeah. Okay.

Also a good one. Also one that really pissed me off. Yeah, I'll bet. Oh, that one pissed me off. We'll talk about that next week. All right. A couple quick things. No, nothing, really. We're done.

We got nothing. I'm on DT&S later. I got Play Retro this afternoon. 4 p.m. Be there for that, me and done away. I can't even remember what we're talking about. Oh, Fantasma Goria, the weird point-and-click adventure games back of the day. Still not sure if that's what, if the magazine, if the game's named after the magazine, Fantasmogoria, or if,

if, I don't know, my memory is weird. The magazine's called Fangoria, so probably. Oh, that's why. Yeah. What am I thinking of? There's the movie Fantasm and then the movie or then the magazine Fangoria and it's not named after the combination of those two. I think I, that's what I've done, no.

I bet you conflated the two, yeah. That's what I've done. Well, anyway, we're going to talk about those. We're doing a little Halloweening today on. Oh, I like that. Yeah, good. So check it out tonight, 3.30, sorry, 4 p.m. Mountain here at FrogPants. tv if you want to watch it live and get the podcast after it's going to do it for us big thanks to all

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I love it. Cappy, who says, I know we're a little bit late on this one, almost a week, man, sorry. October 5th will be my 40th birthday. It's been a rough year for me, but y'all's shenanigans keep me laughing. 40th. Happy birthday. You get the old lady when it's 40. Yeah, you do. Lucky you you. All right, specifically asked for any cover of a rapper, a hip-hop song, in the style of a sea shanty.

My gosh, the challenges that you put out throw at me are just crazy. I don't know how I'm ever able to figure any of these things out, but yeah, I've got one, sure. This was done by Jim Labap from his album, Millennial Shanties and Madrigals. Wow. It's a sea shanty version of the milkshap. song by Kellis. Here is Milkshake Shanty. Ahoy, crew, what song should we next turn into a fake

sea shanty? Milkshan. You heard it, crew? Milkshake. I was joking. My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like, it's better than yours. Damn right. It's better than yours. I could teach you, but I'd have to charge. My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

and they're like, it's better than yours. Damn right. It's better than yours. Damn right. It's better than yours I can teach you, but I'd have to charge. I know you want it. The thing that makes me... The thing that makes me... What the guys go crazy for. What the guys go crazy for?

They lose their minds. The way I whine. I think it's time. I think it's time. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la the boys are waiting. The boys are waiting. waiting la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la the boys to the boys are waiting the boys are mine milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours damn right it's better than yours i could teach you but i'd have to charge my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours damn right it's better than yours i could teach you but i'd have to charge i can see you're on it You want me to teach thee

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It's better than yours I can teach you, but I'd have to charge Oh, once you get involved, Everyone will look this way so you must maintain your charm charm. Same time maintain your halo. Just get the perfect blend. Plus what you have within. Then next their eyes will squint. Then they've picked up your scent. La la la la la la la la la. The boys are waiting. The boys are waiting. La la la la la la la. The boys are waiting. The boys are my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours damn right it's better than yours i could teach you but i'd have to charge my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours damn right it's better than yours

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