The Morning Stream - TMS 2545: Baggie of Soup

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Do Phones Have OS Because I Like Really Wanted to Know. Full sized Johnson candy. Smart TVs are dumb. Up in the night with the meat. Here's Florida Georgia Linw with a song about Colorado called Monta...na. Harr the Harrar Stary. Trick or Jambalaya. Scott Is A Conflator. Dressing up as Jack Shit. Pear Pressure. 3 Book Weekend. Not a Witch, But Still a Duck. I curse you, apparently. Test driving Tristan. Digestion Speed Run with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 slash TMS like Brian Emerson, Thomas Maddick, and Paul St. Germain. Coming up on TMS, do phones have OSs because I like really wanted to know? Full-size Johnson candy. Smart TVs are dumb. Up in the night with the meat. Here's Florida, Georgia Lime with a song about Colorado called Montana. Har the horror starry. Trick or jumbalaya.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Scott is a conflator. Dressing up as Jack shit. Pair pressure. Three book weekend. Not a witch, but still a duck. I curse you, apparently. Test driving Tristan. Digestion speed run with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:01:13 In the truly modern home or the truly modern car, it's functional design that counts. Smart styling is styling with a purpose, as seen in this new 1948 futuristic Oldsmobile. Like all demonic entities, the personal pizza must be invited into your. home the morning. The morning stream, one way or the other, this war ends tonight. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream from Monday, October 30th, 2023. I got one more day. It's the big Halloween week. I hope you're all spooky and feeling good. It's me and Brian. Hi, Brian. How are you doing? Oh, I'm good. You guys got all your full-sized candy bars to give out to the kids?
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, we do. And as usual, I'm grumpy about it because they're expensive and I don't like, I don't like just, you know, these kids ought to earn it somehow. I don't know how, but they ought to perform or, you know, sing a song. Exactly. Where's the trick? We never get the tricks anymore. Just give them the treats and that's it. It bugs me a little bit, but it's okay. Kim has always been generous for their candy bars and this is no different. The plan is tomorrow we're just going to, we're going to be those people. We're going to have something on TV, the TV closest to where the door is. The front door, yeah. Yeah, we got one there in the living room.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So we're going to have something on and we're going to sit there with the dogs and then bing bong. And then we're going to go over there and say, oh, you guys look so cute here to take one of these. And then we'll sit down and watch TV, rinse and repeat until about 9 o'clock. That's the plan. Yep. And many points through the night, you'll be. handing out candy and then you'll look and be like oh there's a kids there's more kids that are
Starting point is 00:03:04 just going to the next door neighbor's house they're going to be here in five seconds do i even have time to sit down and watch anything no might as well just stand here like a like a fool yep we even had for a very brief moment we had this idea that we might go somewhere turn off the lights no no candy at scott's house and we were going to go somewhere like a i don't know find a bar that had like you know something on tv or we didn't know what we were just thinking of like we don't even drink like what are we going to do at a bar right yeah yeah exactly but we get like bar food and chill and hang out and whatever and it just be like a different thing and then we remembered oh no van's coming over at like six and he's going to want to go around the neighborhood and we're going to be doing all that anyway so yeah it's the tv thing we're doing yeah they're i don't know if there is trivia tomorrow night at our usual tuesday spot but uh for for a hot second i was like Tina what about you know let's just turn off the lights and uh go go do trivia we'll just go up and play trivia because it's I'm guessing that, you know, it'll be fewer teams anyway. But, no, she was, she wants to give out candy.
Starting point is 00:04:07 She wants to see costumes. She wants to see how many Barbies, how many Oppenheimer's, how many Spider-Men. How many Barbenheimers, you know, how many combos. Exactly. I bet you get a couple of them. Do you think they dress up for the, if they're doing trivia, people would go dressed up, you know? Yeah, oh, for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Make a thing out of it? Because I would, you know, I'd be, I'd probably, I'd probably be wearing. wearing what I'm wearing right now, which is my Peter Quill sweatshirt. Oh, I like it. My gear, whatever, the gear, that weird space band t-shirt that he wears
Starting point is 00:04:40 and the jacket that goes with it. It's my favorite kind of shirt you're wearing right now. I wear a lot of those. Lots of those. That's my main clothing choice for the whole winter are shirts like that. Long sleeve, usually gray. Bunch of shit written on them.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's what I do. Cool, cool. This is one of my rare non-Henlies, my non-Henlies. Oh, yeah, no button down front. Which is my Eagles cover band, the non-Henlies. Well, he left for a while, right? And they kept going, so that works. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, you're non-A-A-Leyes. He's back with him, but yeah, the non-Henlies. I thought he died, or the other one died. The other one died, Glenn Fry. Glenn Fry. Yeah, but his son is now playing with the band or was on this final tour. That's kind of like... He's a small fry.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Wolfgang Van Halen or whatever plays. Exactly, yeah. I don't even know if Van Halen tours now, because with Eddie gone, what do you do? How do you do that? You know? Do you even have a band with that Eddie Van Halen in it? Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah, I don't know. I understand swapping around your base. Your singer comes and goes. I get it. But Eddie? No, you can't be doing that. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I mean, do they, can they tour? Do they even tour? I don't know. I guess it was 2020, right? So they have to have toured since then. I guess they just tour with Wolfgang doing the Yeti parts. Oh, that's right. Well, I thought he was doing bass.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But maybe he could do both. I thought he took over from Michael Anthony and then Michael Anthony went to go live in a boat full of beer or whatever he does. I don't know. I just remember hearing he was kind of trouble for the band because he was always really, really drunk constantly. Like worse than the brothers, worse than any of them. And that was the big falling out. I don't know if that's true. Really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I don't know if that's true. All I know he was, he was the funness part of their 5150 tour that I saw in high school when they were up on stage. Easily the most fun dude to watch was Michael Anthony. Really? Yeah. Interesting. That dude was into it. He had that Jack Daniel's guitar that looked like a bottle.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He was up there going just, he would get up on speakers and jump off real big and all this. Everyone else seemed kind of subdued. But no, that dude, he was. he was into it. Anyway, we've gone places with this little discussion. We're now going to turn a corner. And I'm going to tell you a weird thing for me. So usually, if I read books and I do, when I read them, I usually read maybe two or three a year.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Nothing crazy, kind of take my time, you know, plop down on the couch a little bit here and there and read a book. I found, for whatever reason, that this Halloween season drove me to read like a maniac. And I read like crazy. I have now read three books over the weekend, Brian. Wow. Okay. I had a bunch of downtime and I thought, I'm going to read for all this downtime. Now, admittedly, these were relatively smaller books.
Starting point is 00:07:38 They're not huge. These aren't Stephen King. Like golden books, right? With pictures and everything. I had to make sure of this picture. So these were all horror novels. And one of them in particular, or a couple of them in particular, written by a guy named David.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Shit. He's a Scottish author narrative. forgot it. Dang it. I was going to give everyone this recommendation. Hold on. David. Oh! Okay. Well, I know the book. Maggie's Grave is one of the books I read. Ooh. Okay. Sounds cool. It is sinister. It is very sinister.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Let's see if I can find. There it is. David Sodergren is his name. He's a Scottish author. And I loved this book and I just freaking devoured it. Read it so fast. So for those who are like, well, what is it, Scott?
Starting point is 00:08:25 it's actually kind of the opposite of what I would think I would normally like. Like movies about a, you know, a curse or something, they don't really do it for me. Like, curse movies are just kind of, eh, whatever. I'm just not into it. But this thing is, the whole book is basically about a curse. And it's actually based on a real thing or a real, what's the word? Legend. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Like 300 years ago, this lady named Maggie Wall was, killed for being a witch. They all thought she was a witch. It turns out she was not a witch. But they wanted to kill her and then take her baby, which she was pregnant with at the time. And they figured this would save the baby and destroy the witch. And in the throes, in the prolog, it's all that story. Just a short version of what happened to her. And in that thing, this isn't a spoiler or anything, but in that thing, she basically at the end of it all, she's like, well, fine, I'm going to curse you. I'm not a witch, but I'll curse you anyway. Well, it turns out that that's enough to make an actual curse. Oh, really? Okay. Just not being the witch, but saying you're going to curse somebody.
Starting point is 00:09:32 You're going to curse somebody. Exactly. So she curses this town and then it becomes, you know, cursed. And there's all these reasons it's cursed. Then you jump to 2019. So this is 300 years ago. And then they jumped to 2019 and then they tell our story. And that's all I'll say about it. It's on Kindle Unlimited. So it's free if you have their little cheap. It's like five bucks a month, whatever it is. It's really a good deal, actually. So I've been getting a lot of these books from that. I would highly recommend it. If you're a horror novel fan, look for Maggie's Graves, David Sodergren. I'm reading his other book right now, too, called Tar. I'm not done with it yet. Or not tar. That's not, I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:10:08 but it's not based on the Kate Blanchett movie. No, is it, hold on, I'm doing it wrong. He's got the, oh, the Har, sorry, H-A-R. That's his latest book. Anyway, I was just really impressed. And this guy's, you know, just started writing in 2018, but so far his stuff is rad and I would recommend it
Starting point is 00:10:30 especially I like that it was set in Scotland it just had a different vibe to it than I like that too yeah European horror for whatever reason whether it's gothic horror or Scandinavian horror whatever
Starting point is 00:10:44 like European there's something a little extra little extra about European locales yeah for your horror and now it's got me wanting to pinch all his stuff and when I'm done with that had a, I'm in the middle of reading one about, I'm not even sure what it's about yet.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's really intriguing, though. There's something going on in this horror book I'm reading, but the story is not clear yet, but. Clearly, we had the wrong homework with Wendy. You should have gotten the books and I should have gotten the cooking because I made this awesome chorizo and squash baked thing, uh, tomatoes and onions and. That sounds good. Yeah, yeah. I want some of that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Clearly, we had the wrong homework. Yeah. Get Wendy on the phone. Let her know we're swapping. Yeah, we're wife. We're wife swapping this week. That's what we're doing. Maybe not that. Maybe not that so much. Maybe not that so much. That's great, though. Congratulations. I assume the results were quality. Yes, we devoured the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Very nice. I still have leftovers of my weird thing. I had some more yesterday. It's good. Oh, the thing you made for, yeah, the soup, right? Yeah, I made so much of it. It'll last me another. I'll probably get another week and a half of that stuff if I won't. I have a ton of it I don't know if that's good or bad I mean it may go bad before then but yeah
Starting point is 00:12:02 Did you eat some fish that were That was sitting in the fridge for a week and a half or something And got sick the next day maybe maybe I don't know Cap it off at four days I mean yeah that's true I do have this thing where you know Kim will throw something out and I'll go What? That was still good. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:12:21 And she'll say honey it was like 12 days old Ziplock it, give it to the kids tomorrow. I'm like, did you smell it? Here's a Snickers bar and a Ziploc bag full of weak old jambola. Enjoy, kids. Can you imagine being known for the house with a little baggie of soup that you got, a cold soup? Oh, you're kind of tempting me. I can't do that to those kids, but you're tempting me.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Anyway, books. Books. I can't stop reading right now. I don't know what my deal is. In fact, last night I was like, I should play a video game. I really should play a video game, I says to myself. And then I went, nah, maybe you just want to sit here and read. Well, I didn't play any video games or any, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I didn't play Spider-Man or Mario this weekend. It was outlifting and going to. Oh, you got the car, you get the car back? Is that the, yeah. Well, I mean, we've got, so Tina have our two cars. And so we've just been alternating letting Tristan borrow one of our cars while, while he's looking around for a new car. But his, they did, I think they did mention this.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It was deemed totaled. Yeah. So, uh, he's currently shopping, uh, for something new. He's got some, he's got his feelers out. He's been test driving stuff and hoping that, um, the next couple days he's going to pick something. You're going for something new, something used, something. Something used with, um, with low miles and, uh, yeah, um, but, uh, you know, his,
Starting point is 00:13:49 like his dad lack of car play is a deal breaker I would say the same damn thing what it doesn't connect to car play sorry not interested car play is pretty good it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:14:02 it is it's uh the ones that are homegrown and they're the worst when you get like hey here's here's Chevy's version oh they're so bad dude so bad yeah no I need listen if I'm going to
Starting point is 00:14:13 if I'm going to forego having listening to terrestrial radio which I'm happy to forego listening to Terrestrial radio. And I don't want to spring the money for serious or anything like that. I want music on my phone, and I want a really easy and pleasant way to control that music, and it needs to be car play. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:14:35 It's good stuff. Sorry, Android people. You have a good thing, too. Your version of that's fine? Sure, it's fine. What we don't like, though, is Honda's version, Volkswagen's version, all the little after, not aftermarket, but like they're built-in bullshit. it's like smart TVs are the worst things ever because they really are they all have
Starting point is 00:14:52 their disparate OSs horrible interfaces yes they're made by oh I hate them so much by the way smart TVs knock it off just be a TV that's all I want out of you exactly I want a dumb TV I want a dumb 4K TV yeah at a at a price that's cheaper than a smart to smart 4K TV yeah and if and if I need to pay as much to get rid of all the smart features I'll do it because I hate it. I have more weird issues with the television because it's a quote unquote smart TV than I have any other TV.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I'm like, dude, just go to my Xbox. Just go to my PlayStation. Just knock it off trying to make me use your weird freaking built-in Netflix bullshit. I've got it over here. I'm good. Right. Claire, all right, I'm not sure about Claire here.
Starting point is 00:15:39 If your phone has an OS, you need to think about your life. Don't all smartphones have an OS? like whether it's Android or Pixel or iOS or iOS or anything like that isn't that uh like yeah it's an operating system they're operating systems that's what they are so that cool phone Claire that you have that can never get into the discord right when we're doing audio that phone has an OS yeah exactly it's an operating system that's how that works my car the car play is not like like car software it's it's your phone connect see it's the OS of your phone connecting to your car and giving you the interface of all of
Starting point is 00:16:16 your stuff at a very easy to access place on the screen as opposed to having to mount your phone and all that stuff yeah whereas with uh you know the honda one we had and i loved the honda the car's great no problem i don't have any complaints about the honda but i hated their built-in thing yes it was hard to use it was clunky clugie the kia the kia built-in businesses is shite it's just so clunky and things just aren't in the place that you expect them to be and you know you're using the GPS the built in GPS and it's like oh I accidentally clicked over here to move the map and now it rerouted me to that location instead of the yeah where I was going yeah it's bad just horrible so better integration is good the Android one is good that's a decent integration yep the iPhone one
Starting point is 00:17:09 is a decent integration those are going to be closer to what you would want so do that and yes you heard it here first. Phones have operating systems on them. I know that sounds nice. I don't know what Irish phones have, but at least our phones here have here in the highlands of Ireland. We don't have OSs on our phone.
Starting point is 00:17:27 We just have a piece of bacon and a pit of cheese. I don't know what they do over there. Look at this here. I think we have an answer to the carbonated fruit thing. I honestly think this might be it. I could be wrong, but we got... It was carbonated meat, but please continue. shit it was meat wasn't it yeah yeah we have we have an answer to the question of carbonated
Starting point is 00:17:50 fruit that was never asked but uh carbonated meat conundrum is no this is a really good point now now it makes me wonder if it was ever meat because this because this sounds right to me but i know now i'm even further confused but anyway we got an we got a message from goose goose all right he sent this yesterday he says if you and the family ever find your way up to logan and that's just, I don't know, an hour and a half north of us. You should stop over at Zollinger's Farm slash Orchard and pick yourself up a zapple. They are carbonated infused apples and they're incredibly good. I've had these before and I might have conflated these with the meat thing, although I'm still sure the meat thing happened.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'm still, I say, I even want to say the words, oh, it must have been fruit and not meat. But when I say it, my brain says, no, that would be a lie. You've had the meat. I don't know why I'm so sure I've had the meat, but I just feel like I have. But this is the same kind of concept. They infuse apples with carbonation. I don't know how. They plug something into it and squeeze it in, inject it.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't know how they do it. But I have had one of these before. They are really good. They're very odd, though. It's like having, it's like drinking an apple, an apple drink that is carbonated. Is it cider? Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Interesting. Because, all right, so I'm looking, I'm looking it up. There's quite a few YouTube videos about doing this. Making a zapple. The genetically modified sparkling apple has juice like a fizzy drink. Yeah. And it's crossbreeding two different apple varieties, the resi and the pirouette, and took a number of years to perfect.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Here we go. An apple is an apple, but not in this case. Our new breeding paradise sparkling is different, so different, And just as the name described, sparkling explodes in your mouth. When the large cells release their juice, it feels as if CO2 is brought into play. To stay with the analogy, Parkless Sparkling is the first apple that is not still but sparkling. But apparently, if you get the juice from one of these, it's not fizzy. It's just still.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's just apple juice. Yeah. Probably really sweet, though, if I had to guess. I don't know. Yeah, who knows? I'd be curious. Yeah, you'll have to go up and get one. I have to get one.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It's been a while since I've had this. And I don't remember them being called Zapples, but there was something about this that's familiar. Thank you, Goose, but I'm also, it's also worse now because I still think the meat thing is a thing. I don't know. I don't know how to get my head around it. It's so weird to me.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Somebody out there, come on now. We have enough reach where somebody knows definitively if I'm up in the night with the meat or if there is a possibility of carbonated meat somewhere. I don't know how you would do. I mean, yeah, I don't know how you would do carbonated meat because technically the apples aren't even really carbonated they just have the cells make it give you the feeling of of carbonation in your mouth that's right so
Starting point is 00:20:50 the only way to do it with the meat is either another genetic thing but with meat that's like crossing animals right yeah yeah you're you're uh you're mating uh an elk with a seven up yeah yeah is what you're doing or it'd be something weird like well a parrot when a Parrot and a cow love each other very much. Out comes carbonated meat. Like, I don't know. I don't know how to do it. But somebody out there knows.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So pipe in. Help me. Okay? Help me. Help me help you. Or you could just admit it was a brain fart. I mean, it could have been a brain fart. I will fully cop to that.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But for whatever reason, I have these weird thoughts in my head that I have, that I can't be that. And I'm not saying it isn't because I think you're probably right. Like the logical part of me says, it's a brain fart. yeah but part of me says no scott you've had just the fact that meat is fibrous as opposed to something that could hold bubbles but yeah i agree like how why do i even have the thought why did that brain fart even happen what causes a brain fart like that that's maybe why maybe it's so damn specific that's why i don't know about the brain part it really is it's so weird yeah i hate it anyway here's what i love
Starting point is 00:22:08 Let's go from some carbonated meat to a carbonated man. It's Brian Dunaway all the way from South Carolina. Hi, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. I am feeling rather bubbly today. Are you now? We have a carbonated Brian. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Oh, we do. Yeah. It's all fizzing to the top. It's probably an anticipation of all the candy I'm going to stick into my face tomorrow. Oh, really? So two for you, one for me, kind of a dull out situation? No, all for me. You get nothing to leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Lights off, all for me. That's the, that's the way. Oh, I love that. I love that. You just sit in the dark. Go to your own store. You just in the dark with a bowl in your lap, you know, watching kids be disappointed. No, I still in the porch, sir, but I can see me eat the candy.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, I know, that's different. It's different. Oh, that's great. I want to see this. Excellent. Perfect in the South, too. Anyway, hey, it's good to have you here. We're going to play a game.
Starting point is 00:23:01 It's called the half-asses, and Brian Ibbott here is going to explain all the stuff about it, Brian. That's right. Welcome to the morning. Half Us is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving the two of you the answers. That's how nice I am. I'll give Scott and Brownie category and six possible answers. Three of those answers are correct and three of them are like carbonated meat, completely bogus. Depending on how confident they feel with the category, they can provide one, two, or three guesses.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But if they get any wrong, they get zero points for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, two right, gets you three points, and getting all three right gets you five points. Player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant. Who are these contestants you ask? I hear you ask them, who are these contestants? Like, there you were right there. Scott, you're going to be playing for Paul in Clearwater, Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Brian, you're going to be playing for Christopher in Phoenix, Arizona all the way to Oh, the Phoenix, Arizona. I lived there once. Yeah, you lived there for a hot couple years or something, didn't you? Literally a hot couple years. I lived there in the early 2000s in Timpee. That's right. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. Cool. Well, there you go. All right. Those are your players. Prizes we'll talk about at the end of the game. Let's get to your questions. Scott, are you going to join the game?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Oh, shit. That's important, isn't it? To get in here. It's Brian one hell of an advantage if you. Yeah, if I don't get in, then what's even, what are we even doing here? All right. So I'm logging in. It's taking a while.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't know why. Okay, there it is. Now I'm going to hit play. Oh, no. That's right. Blame the service. I'm sure Scott's seen it, but the friggin Fargo trailer for the next season with Keeley is fantastic. Oh, hell yeah, I watch that.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm so excited. I cannot wait, dude. Are you kidding? November 15th, I think, or something? Is it? Awesome. Yeah, it's real soon. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Waiting too long for that. All right. We're up. We're good now. All right. Let's get to your first question here. It's scary, scary monster version of the best asses. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Which of these animals have a blue tongue? Oh, wow. Blue tongue, animals with a blue tongue. Your choices are polar bear, chow-chow dog, golden snubbed monkey, northern tree swallow, pygmy blue-tongued skink and a comodo dragon. Which three of these actually have a blue tongue? All right, so you put in pygmy blue tongue skink. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I did. Is that... It feels like a misdirection somehow. I don't know why. A couple of these feel like a misdirection. A blue-tonged herring, is it? Is that what it is? Something going on there.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Oh, man, I really don't know. It feels like a trick. Yeah, I'm going to go to. I don't know. Okay. All right. Brian went with one. Of course, the Chow Chow Chow Dog absolutely has a blue tongue.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Famous for that. Didn't know that. The pygmy blue tongue skink. He actually does have a blue tongue. Damn it's in there as a... Nice. There we go. As a real...
Starting point is 00:26:10 It took two things there. I almost went with polar bear, but I thought, oh, it's a trick because they're trying to say because it's cold. Because it's cold. Yeah, no, polar bears also have a blue tongue. I did not know that until this,
Starting point is 00:26:24 which I think is hilarious. I just watched an entire... They're not white. They have transparent hair. That's true. And it's mostly kind of yellow and gross. It's like pee-looking. It's weird, basically.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, but I, it's, uh, urine-infused, uh, fur. I just watched that recommendal I did for the, the Tom Hardy narrated predators thing. And there's a whole section on polar bears. And I never noticed one. That's why I didn't choose it here because I'm like, did I see a blue tongue. I don't think I did. But they never started to tell you. I mean, only the ones that are eating, eating, uh, those toot-roll pops, right?
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, yeah, that's the one. That's how, that's how they get blue. All right. You're up by one. The golden snubbed monkey, uh, no, not really. I don't know what color of golden snub monkey's tongue is. It's probably just read. Let's get question number two.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Oh, scary movies. Scary movies. Okay. I hope they're all an exorcist. Which of these movies have an exclamation point at the end of the title. Your choices are Oliver, Mulan Rouge. I should go, Oliver, Mulan Rouge, airplane, tangled. You don't mess with Zohan.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And bye, bye, Birdie. Wow. These all, three of these have exclamation points at the end. Three of these have exclamation points at the end. Three of these have exclamation. Exclamation points, three of them, but don't. I should read him in the Frank Scott Fletcher voice. I'm going to choose.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You don't mess with the Zohan. I love that movie. I'm not sure about this one. Never seen Don't Mess with the Zohan. I don't know if it's good or not. I love it. It's actually pretty fun. It's actually one of the better Adam Sandler movies.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's silly, but it's got a good heart. Like most of his movies. Yeah, sure. Does it have, what's his name, making copies? That guy, is he in there? Rob Schneider. He has to be. It's a legal requirement.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, that's what he's doing. He's making copies right in the movie, too. Well, fantastic. All right. Well, Oliver, absolutely. I think it's one of the only one-word movie titles with an exclamation point to win an Oscar, maybe the only one. Also, airplane. Airplane!
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah. However, no, you don't mess with the Zohan, and no, bye-bye, Bertie. Damn it! Mulan Rouge was the third one. Mulan Rouge! I love that movie. Gosh, dang it, done away. What is the two weeks in a row bullshit we're going through right here?
Starting point is 00:28:46 I know. So, Scott, you need. I'm having a moment. I'm having a moment. Oh, Hobbsdog, Bertie, Bertie has an exclamation point? That's Bertie. Oh, bye, bye, By, Birdie? That's another, no, just plain Birdie.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Oh, is he saying bye, by, Bertie? there's a there's a god is it not a hitchcock film that's the birds there's another film called birdie I'm thinking of like yeah by by birdie is a sequel to the bird
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's to say a sequel to the birds according to bye bye by umdb has no exclamation point on by by birdie so birdie no no I know that I know but I'm thinking the movie birdie yeah if it's a birdie
Starting point is 00:29:24 is that the one a couple years ago 2022 yeah looks like it but that has a No, exclamation point thing in this cage. Bye-bye. It's like, Bertie! Bertie! Bertie! All right.
Starting point is 00:29:36 All right, let's get your last question. Scott, you need all three of these in order to win the game. Brian, you know, you can hedge. You can do whatever you want, but let's see how... It's mine to blow. Yep. It's mine to blow.
Starting point is 00:29:50 All right. Question number three. This one came to us from Tanner. Tanner supplied this one. Oh. Original names of fast food restaurants. So which of these are the actual original names of these fast food restaurants. Popeyes originally called Chicken on the Run. Panda Express originally called China Red Cafe.
Starting point is 00:30:08 McDonald's originally called Speedy's. Domino's Pizza originally called Dominix. Sonic originally called Top Hat and Subway, originally called One Foot Longer. One Foot Longer. I love, please tell me what one foot longer is what it was. I want that to be true. I want that to be true, too.
Starting point is 00:30:28 One foot longer. I think I'm going to choose it, actually. That looks right to me. That kind of does. Why don't it uncheck? Okay, there we go. I'm locking in those three. Okay, Scott locked in.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Brian locked in. So Tanner sent these to me first without telling me the answers, and I had to give my guess. That's hilarious. He's into the question, but no answer. Exactly, because he wanted me to guess. And I also thought, oh, Panda Express, China Red Cafe. Totally makes sense, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Got to be sense, right? Tanner just picked a Chinese restaurant that's up the block from where he lives. China Red Cafe is an actual name for Pandexpress. Top Hat was the original name for Sonic. Dom and Nix, with that weird capitalization, which makes me think it was probably named after the two founders or something, Dominic and Nick or something. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And Popeye's was originally called Chicken on the Row. So I got one. No, I got two. No, I got one. You got one, but you chose two incorrectly. You really, technically got zero. So congratulations. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I kicked my ass on this thing. I did so bad. I got out to Brian. Congratulations. Because of that, to Christopher in Phoenix, Arizona. You are getting a couple Steam games. I'm sorry, a couple Ubundool games. You're getting Necro worm and Orbital Racer.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Oh, the second one. I have Ordle Racer, yeah. Very good game. I don't know that first one. We played that one before. Yeah, I think we did that on the boop show. That first one, though, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I don't know Nectro Worm, but yeah, Orbital Aracer. And then, don't worry, Paul, in Clearwater, Florida. You're going to get a copy of Post Void. Oh. Also on Humble. You know who may have won the thing is the loser? Because Post Void is rad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Really? Yeah, that's a cool game. It's like a cheap game. Like, I don't think, like, new. it's like four bucks or something but oh wow it is such a fun kicking the pants i can't even i don't even know how to explain that game it's awesome and discovered it recently like in the last few weeks it's really good very cool so i'm gonna call our loser our winner junior uh there you go that's super fun done away how do you feel now that we've gone through this and done this again
Starting point is 00:32:50 today how do you feel i feel pretty good i'm excited about halal mean to be in tomorrow sitting on my front porch eating candy in front of the kids and not giving them any and i'm also really are. You really are doing it. Okay. All right. Loki for president is what I'm going for this year. I 3D printed a, you know, the little chair-up, face mask thing. Yeah. Yeah. I saw you put that in our film sack discussion. That thing looks amazing. Are you going to shave for this? Are you going to keep the beard.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Oh, no. We're going bearded Loki. We're not, we're not that dedicated to our cautioning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the way that show goes. I'm going to tighten it up a little bit. I'm going to tighten up a little bit. No, I'm not sure. Yeah, it's a more, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a multiverse. So a bearded Loki is totally reasonable. Exactly. It'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:33:34 That's great. I'm dressing up as jack shit. That's my favorite character. Well, I like jack shit. I'm not familiar with that character. I just don't, I don't have any time to do anything now. Is that a Nicholas Cage film? I've, uh, jack shit.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It might be. Uh, well, anyway, I hope you have a good time. And we'll talk later this week, uh, Wednesday. In the aftermath of it all, you can tell us how things went, and we'll also look forward to this week's Play Retro. Brian Dunaway, have a great day and kiss our butts. Thank you. No use. He had a little lag today, so it was fun to tease him with his lag.
Starting point is 00:34:11 A little bit, yeah, poor guy. All right, you guys, it is time for the news. Today's news brought to you by. Frog Pans plays tonight at 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. mountain time where Scott's going to be playing amnesia bunker for Satan knows why. Don't worry, folks. He won't remember it tomorrow. Catch it live at frogpants.
Starting point is 00:34:33 That's right. Oh, my apologies. I wrote it as amnesia bunker, but it's actually amnesia the bunker. I don't know why I left the out of there. But you just chase Carol O'Connor around her room the whole game. Hey, Edithee, Meatball. Yellin racist stuff chasing me down. That sounds like a fun game.
Starting point is 00:34:55 game. Yeah. I guess so, so I guess a thanks goes out to Jim Jensen, who months and months ago gave me a copy of Amnesia the bunker and said this would be a good screamathon type thing. And I have this rule of people buy me a horror game. I'll play it on stream. I was scared because amnesia, the first amnesia game, I played maybe five minutes of and then had to leave and then had to like do other stuff to distract me. It was so scary. I have a feeling this is going to be terrible, but we're doing it tonight. We're doing it tonight to celebrate the holiday. We're going to play a little amnesia of the bunker, all right?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Fantastic. Yeah, 3 p.m. Mountain be there. It's going to be a blast, I think. Yeah, Twitch and YouTube, everybody. All the places you can find it at frogpans.com. All right. Here's a story about a restaurant. And, boy, they're feeling saucy.
Starting point is 00:35:45 A restaurant added $50, quote, unable to parent, unquote, fee for rowdy kids. It's on the menu in this place. Oh, wow. Okay. A Georgia restaurant is gaining national attention for charging customers a fee for bad parenting. The menu at Toccoa Riverside Restaurant. I think that's Toccoa. Did I get that right?
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah, that's what I would guess, Ticoa, or Taka-a. I mean, this would be a good question for Natomaton or Red Fragal. Oh, yeah, Amy might know. That's true. Yeah. It's about two hours north of Atlanta. offers a selection of dishes like steak, trout, and American fare. I don't know what the rest of that would be.
Starting point is 00:36:26 What, like fries, potatoes. What do we eat here? Yeah. Like pork chops and... Sure. Good old-fashioned, you know, comfort food. Cheese steak hoagie. I mean, these...
Starting point is 00:36:36 You're making me hungry is what you're doing. That's what's happening. Yes. But you look a little closer on that menu. You see a little something else at the bottom of the menu as an adult surcharge for customers unable to parent. That's how it's worded. Followed by $3. dollar signs. Adult supercharged for adults unable to parent dollar sign, dollar sign,
Starting point is 00:36:53 dollar sign, says the menu. According to some guests, the exact amount is apparently at the restaurant's discretion, with some saying they were charged 50 bucks. So it could be more depending on how rowdy or, you know. Oh, gotcha. So it's, it's at the discretion of the restaurant to determine how much, how, what those dollar signs translate to. Yeah. And here's my favorite part. Several Google reviews said they were unhappy with the charge. One of them reads as follows. This is great. If you have children, absolutely avoid this place at all costs.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Holy moly, the most disrespectful owner made a huge scene in front of the entire restaurant because our children were, quote, running through the restaurant. They were down by the river. They were down by the river. What? They were by the river. You have the riverside restaurant. Oh, oh, got it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 We were told we need to, quote, go to Burger King and Walmart, unquote, and that we were bad parents. They have a $50 surcharge for bad children. Another reviewer claims he was charged 50, even though his children were well behaved. Quote, the owner came out and told me he was adding $50 to my bill because my children's behavior. My kids watched a tablet until the food arrived, ate their food, and my wife took them outside while I paid the bill.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That guy's pissed. Yeah, no kidding. Oh, funny. I kind of like restaurants that are cranky, but their food is good, but you really have to make sure your food is amazing. Like that hot dog place in Chicago that's famous for berating everyone that comes up there. Yeah, the Dick's Last Resort. That's it.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And the reason people go, it's like the soup Nazi. You can be abused if the food is worth it. You go there because the food's good, but also because you go there because you're getting treated like that. It's like, oh, we'll go there for a birthday party and they'll totally rip on the, you know, the birthday boy, whatever. So, I should put my glasses back on because it's a very tiny menu. The restaurant, so it's in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and salmon, ocean scallops, barbecue, baby back ribs, filet mignon, ribby steak, blah, blah, blah. Here's the dumb local news thing. They have a, they're basically scrolling down the menu, I'm guessing, on the website or on a mobile device.
Starting point is 00:39:13 so it's a little thin strip, and where the bottom of the menu would say service fee is covered up by their text that says, Blue Ridge Restaurant has an unable to parent fee. So they want to show it on screen, and I'm sure it's right below where it says drinks, but because they've got that dumb banner on the bottom of their news thing, and nobody looked at it and said,
Starting point is 00:39:42 oh, I bet that's going to get covered up. Yeah. You know, they completely missed it. Yep, for sure. It's really funny. That's pretty funny. They got, there's a little bit more here. I didn't see this before.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Users also criticize the other fees on the menu. There is an 18% gratuity for separate checks. Sure. That's not uncommon. It's not unheard of, but it's pretty kind of rare. You don't see that right up. That's pretty high. I usually see like Snooze has a, you know, $2 split plate fleet.
Starting point is 00:40:12 fee. I want to say that Cheesecake Factory had a similar thing because people, you go there and the portions are so oversized that, yeah, it's worth it to go there and get one entree and split it between two people, even if you are paying the $2 split plate. Yeah. Kim and I did this just the other day,
Starting point is 00:40:30 and they were really nice to us at a place we went to, so it wasn't a problem. It was Crack Shack. You ever been to Crack Shack? No, I think that we talked about it, right, that it's not, there's not one... Oh, maybe there's not one there, yeah. Oh, wait, Crack Shack, Denver. Maybe we have one now. Oh, they're good. You should try them. You should try these guys.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Oh, it's the chicken place. As if there aren't enough chicken places, but this place is really good. And they were really nice, and we split a big salad because their portions are huge. And they were fine with it. They were like, cool, no problem. Let's see. Lehigh, Salt Lake City, Murray. Yep. Riverton, Las Vegas, Encinitas Costa Mesa.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So Southern California, Las Vegas. All the rest are in Utah. there you go maybe they started here i don't know maybe right up the road from us not very far but uh they this other this place we're talking about in georgia also charges a three dollar fee for sharing plates so that's similar to what you were saying so split check and a split plate yeah it seemed like they might be kind of up their own butts a little bit you know a little bit yeah i don't know i don't know i would like at first i was like oh well just make sure you watch your kids and now i'm kind of like i don't know it's kind of a dick yeah see i mean it's a
Starting point is 00:41:42 But I don't like the, yeah, I think I'm with, somebody said Merrick in the chat room, the term unable to parent is a little insulting, you know, a distraction fee or something like that. But there's a restaurant, there's a, the Colorado Tap House, one of the places that we like to play trivia. Monday night, as a matter of fact, tonight is Colorado Tap House trivia night. We're not going, but they have a thing on the, on the menu that just says, we, we, We enjoy your, we enjoy your children. Bringing your children, we enjoy having them here when they are respectful of other diners or something like that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:24 No, that's good. You can totally say it in a better way than they did for sure. Yes, exactly. But they don't say at the end of it, and we'll charge you $50 if they do. Yeah, they keep the fee hidden. You don't want to know how much is it going to cost you. I don't know. Look, I sympathize with restaurant owners, though, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:42 because I know people can be such a-holes to them. And he's probably seen some shit in his life, I'm guessing. And he's probably, you know, he's probably had customers who said, you know, I really like your food and I like the location and it's right on the river. And it's really pretty. But we are, our experience was ruined by the table next to us and their kids running around, you know, running around the restaurant. Yeah. And yeah, it can be, that stuff can be distracting.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I guess I have, you know, I feel bad for everybody, I guess. That's what I'm trying to say. Exactly. Oh, Sean Stratton in the chat room says, as a cook, we hate splitting. So splitting plates. I'm sure it's like this is the way the meal is meant to be served. And especially if it's a thing that doesn't normally get split, like, oh, could you cut our steak in half? And then the baked potato and then the vegetables.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Oh, do people ask for that? People do that? I'm sure they do. Yes. Oh, yeah. There are places where they ask the server to split the plate as opposed to doing it themselves. That's F. Normally it's like, yeah, I'll split it.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Just give us a plate and we'll split it ourselves. Yeah, I don't care. In fact, I just usually like order it and just say, oh, no, I'm just going to have water. And then they bring it out and we just start, we just go to town. I don't even need another plate. Oh, really? You don't even tell them you're going to be splitting it. Yeah, we, if Tina and I do that, we usually say, can you bring, we're going to just get this and can you bring us two plates? And, you know, we make up for it with tipping or whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Like, you know, we make sure that the effort, the effort of just bringing out an empty plate and the money that, they're not making from two entrees is is up for it and sometimes the restaurant will say oh we'll split that for you um where do we oh it's it's a there's a place where we get their full size italian salad and split it between the two of us and then we'll get individual entrees of which we'll eat a little bit and then take the rest home and i can't remember what uh where it is but they split they split the uh the salad for us yeah i don't know like trying to think if i've ever done it where I asked anyone to split anything. It's just usually like, I'm not that hungry.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And we never ask. It's like, we just tell them, oh, yeah, could you bring an extra bowl? We're going to split it. Oh, the Glen. It's the Glen restaurant in North Glen. And we say, yeah, could you bring us an extra bowl? We're just going to split the salad and each have our own entree. And they're like, oh, we'll split it for you.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And they end up bringing us like two full bowls of salad sometimes. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So I still give you more than you ordered or wanted. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm sure we're going to hear some. We'll get some emails about this from people. Yeah, I want to get stories from diners.
Starting point is 00:45:11 who've had bad experiences with children. I just had to cut a loose string off my sweatshirt. Oh, no. It was driving me crazy, Scott, driving me absolutely nuts. But no, I want to hear from people who've had some experiences either with their own kids causing disturbances and getting in trouble or vice versa. Yeah, do we got any small restaurant owner types that listen? I'd like to hear your stories.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I know you've got stories, so share them. What about disrespect, like out of control adults? Yeah, they're worse. If I take crazy neighbors somewhere at a restaurant, am I going to get a $50 surcharge because I'm unable to manage my neighbors? It reminds me. You put up some pictures of them in the Discord. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And you are, you looked like you're 12 in that shot. How old is that photo? That was 2007. So that was like, what, 15, 16 years ago? That was when I went out and met with Richard She, prior to the concert, a year before the concert, just to go over details with them and get some recommendations for where to have the show
Starting point is 00:46:19 and all that stuff. Sure. You know, the time he could have mentioned the camera thing, that would have been good if you brought that up then. Yeah, I'm trying to think like 2007, like how, they certainly were it as ubiquitous as they are now, but even a year later, there certainly were all over the place,
Starting point is 00:46:34 people holding up their early model iPhones and trios. to record trios and then I guess you had I guess I don't know A little flip phone still had little tiny cameras
Starting point is 00:46:46 in him Yeah and let's look Let's see here So we've got So he and Jonathan Colton At the same concert Richard Cheese puts out a new
Starting point is 00:46:56 Hey this is going to be our This could be our last tour ever Thing every year Jonathan Colton A great gig on NPR Still a cruise Based on his You know
Starting point is 00:47:09 Cruise around his music Yeah, okay. I can see how that social media thing is so detrimental. Yeah. It's really been a problem for Colton. It's really struggled. Yeah. That's great. Ah, Dick Cheese. Where are you now? He's out there. He's doing stuff. Exactly. Yep. Final story, and then we'll take a break. Stereo speaker battle, Blair.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What? Stereo speaker battles Blair, Celendian tunes, and torment a New Zealand city. Basically, this is what it comes down to. People are playing Celine Dion at the top of their speaker's capability to piss people off. And it's all happening. That would do it for me. Oh, yeah, it would totally do it for me. Oh, my God, it's all coming back to me now is what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So what they did down in, was it Waco or they were blaring. I don't know what they blared in there. It was like heavy metal or something. Oh, for the compound, for the Koresh deal. And they did it in the Iraq War. I don't know. It's a technique. I know the Guantanamo Bay.
Starting point is 00:48:08 like they used heavy metal or death metal or something, speed metal or something to torture the... That would work on me at two in the morning where that's blaring like that. I can't sleep with that. Believe me. I mean, yeah. Saline Dion bless the fall.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Basically anything my son listened to in 2009 would be enough to to get me to give up the secrets. Give me, you know, tell you where the secret plans are hidden. That's right. He was into that Dutch death metal stuff for a while there, right? Yeah, well, I know
Starting point is 00:48:44 about Dutch, but Bless the Fall and and Mastodon and really heavy stuff. I mean, I can't even do it. Coheed and Camry was about the only thing that he was listening to back then that I liked, and
Starting point is 00:49:00 anything kind of above that. It's anything where the drums and the bass are so synchronized you can't tell which is which we're just yeah I can't do it per I can't do it that's not I can't do that music
Starting point is 00:49:22 I tried a couple times I like heavy metal I need some I need some melody is what I need Yeah I need some melody Yeah and some cohesive lyrics and things I need to hear what people say You know yeah yeah so give me five finger death punch give me you know
Starting point is 00:49:38 disturbed give me that level i'm good uh anyway where are we here oh uh the the music being played uh that's right dion in new zealand yep moving cars and bicycles are what are doing it for residents of poriorua new zealand aurirua perrua uh the scenario is not hypothetical about a year ago people began gathering for so-called siren battles a homegrown subculture in which members of the pacific islander or pacifica communities in new zealand Pete, so you can play the music the loudest. Members of the siren clubs who organized the battles have described them as expressions of identity and community. But some residents say the events, which you can run until early morning hours and feature piercing frequencies should be scaled back because they are far too loud and disruptive.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Disruptive! Now, why they've chosen, Celine Dion. Yeah, they don't really get into it, why. But that would drive me a little crazy. I feel like you could I think you know what Fair complaint I understand
Starting point is 00:50:42 Personal or even group expression Is an important thing Be who you are Let it fly Go show your stuff Let's go But when it's
Starting point is 00:50:54 3 o'clock in the morning And everyone's up Because of you I don't think you should be able to do that No I think you should have to back that up And not do that anymore You know?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Exactly. Yep. I don't think that's unreasonable. We live in a society, people. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. We'll be joined by our buddy Bobby for some science talk. I also have a little clip I'm going to play for him for Fonzie's.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So that'll be here in a minute. Before we get to that, though, Brian and a song maybe. I do have a song. And this kind of reminds me you can now buy Eminem's spaghetti sauce on its own. You don't have to get to go to his restaurant. to get mom spaghetti. You can make it at home with Eminem's brand spaghetti sauce.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Hey, we heard from Amy from Pale Moon. We've played them on the show before and we love their music and we've got a new track. This is the second track that they've released from their next upcoming album
Starting point is 00:51:52 called Cables, Carpets, and Sweaty Hearts. This is sweet. It's a funky, soulful, upbeat indie number with quirky lyrics and I really dig it. Here is the song, Spaghetti by Pale Moon. The Crooked Us are looking weary, they're looking with me. We're all so savvy with the master's degrees
Starting point is 00:52:40 And underneath the robber The disappointment and the sorrow Let me bother your grandfather From the autotigo We'll shower you with rock and roll The flower curtain dance with a wedding on the road My voice is leaking through the glass They bypass
Starting point is 00:53:09 The mousse and trains and disappear in the clouds I'll feel up all these empty spaces My legs, my arms, move dogs to get in your pretty faces Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dum Oh, oh, explode in your play Can express our feet like a sexy leaf New shoes are shining on your feet You can see it from spice
Starting point is 00:53:49 My feet are endless, my hands stretched to ever rest The light is shining through the cracks Flying dust Light bulbs, carpets, cables and sweaty hearts I will fill up all these empty spaces My legs, my own smooth locks To get in your pretty faces Da-da-da-da-da-d-da-dun-bomb
Starting point is 00:54:22 Oh-oh-oh explice in your play can express I'll feel like a sexy thing Let's make it work Let's say hello Move with the flow Let's have a go We'll lose the time to freely
Starting point is 00:55:06 More dear So would give up about it I'll feel up all these empty spaces. My legs, my arms, move logs, to get it in your pretty faces. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dun the phone. Oh, whoa, explode in your play.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Can't express how I feel like a sexy lady I'm a feel of all these empty spaces My legs, my arms, move likes, beginning your pretty faces Tisda-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dunful Oh, oh, oh, oh, expose in your play Can express how I feel like a sexy lady Why choose a sleep number smart bed? Can I make my site softer?
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Starting point is 00:57:24 And we're back. Who was that again for people? That is a pale moon and a brand new song called Spaghetti. Oh, Spaghetti from their upcoming album, cables, carpets, and sweaty hearts. Nice. We had about, we were supposed to make spaghetti other night, and we thought we were going to use our own tomatoes. But the cold snap stunted their final ripeness. oh no so now they're all they're still green so i didn't know this kim brings them in the house and says well what you're supposed to do is put them in a bowl with apples and i went what and she goes yeah they will ripen faster with a bowl of apples than they will if you just put them on the
Starting point is 00:58:09 counter i didn't know that that was news to me i didn't know that either that's fascinating yeah whole whole new uh enlightenment there and even i didn't believe her at first i went and looked it up and sure enough it's a technique it's something people do and i don't know what it is just the other fruit i guess it's a peer pressure like hey we're we're gonna go over here and ripen you want to come with us come on yeah turn red yeah don't be lame they say and so they made them come out and do it anyway uh that was a weird thing i learned and also we might take some of them cut them up and do fried green tomatoes and that'll be nice oh nice a little deep fry uh do you coat them in like a a batter kind of thing oh yeah dude yeah probably she's got this new penco
Starting point is 00:58:47 thing that's um you draw so you get panko you put it in the air fryer you dry out the panko and then you use that panko to like not batter but use it instead of battering something so you create the crunchy outside for chicken or whatever with it and I haven't tried it yet but apparently it's the bomb so we're going to try it. Yum. I'm too busy reading to cook though. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:59:12 All right. Awesome. Let's see if Bobby's around. I'm sure he is because he always is. Let's add him to the call. Let's get this going. Let's make some hay out of scientific knowledge. Science.
Starting point is 00:59:23 My name is science. Bob is hungry, and the soup looks good. Oh, look who it is. It's Captain Bobby Frankenberger, joining us from South Carolina, because that's all our guests today, all South Carolinians, joining us as he always does once a month anyway
Starting point is 00:59:40 to talk about science. Not once a month, twice a month. Talk about science. I'm so excited about this. Bobby, welcome back to the show. Thanks. I'm excited too now. Are you?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Good. That was the goal. I'm trying to get you pumped up here. Can I place some to you? By the way, oh, go ahead. Before you say anything, because this is apropos to what you were just talking about, it's ethylene, ripening fruits give off a gaseous hormone. It's a hormone that plants give off, but when they have fruit,
Starting point is 01:00:08 it signals ripening, but it takes a gaseous form, and it just gives it off. So when you put fruits together, and I think some fruits give it off more than others, but it's ethylene. So apples might be one of the fruits that give off a bunch, So if you put other fruits with them, it will help them ripen more quickly. Do you think that was a discovery by somebody in the 14th century is just like, oh, I don't know why, but tomatoes grew faster when they sat next to these here. I don't know why he's talking like that. We're sitting next to everybody talked to the 14th century.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Sitting next to ye old tomato or whatever. I thought you were going to ask if it was somebody named Ethel. It was an old Stone Temple pilot song, Ethylene, I think, is the thing. but anyway so if you put it somebody either had to just figure that out and and then it got passed along as sort of a folk thing or yeah some scientist went hey guess what we figured this out and then people did it what do you think it was where's the chicken where's the egg on this for sure for this kind of thing for sure somebody just noticed it and then tried to figure out what was happening those are my favorites i like that's got it's got to be that right like
Starting point is 01:01:15 I find it really hard to believe that people didn't store fruits together for hundreds of years and never noticed that some of them. Yeah, because all it would take is one shelf having just apples or just tomatoes and another shelf having apples and tomatoes and seeing the difference. If nothing else, shop owners figured it out. You know, people with fruit stands figured it out. Yeah, but they still blamed it on a witch or something because that's how they were. All the fruit on the edge of the, the,
Starting point is 01:01:45 the apples and the bananas were right next to each other, and the ones on the edges ripened faster, you know, like something like that. Yeah, I love it. Well, we'll wait for the movie adaptation of that great discovery, but for today, we are going to, actually, I'm going to play you a clip first. So I've had a little back and forth to Bobby lately
Starting point is 01:02:03 where I'll find a cool science clip on some social media thing, usually YouTube or, you know, something. And I'll send him a clip and just share it because I think it's stuff he likes. And I keep running into these. And I found one in particular that I really liked. I may have even sent it to you, but I wanted to play it for the show because it just made me think. It made my brain expand. Got me, I don't know, just thinking.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So, apropos of nothing and not really tied to your subject today, here is Brian Cox, not the actor, the astrophysicist, talking about black holes. Check it out. So the old answer of what happens if you jump into a black hole is you go to the end of time. That's this pure Einstein. You get spaghetti-fied on your way to the end of time, which means you get stretched infinitely, actually, into a train of atoms, and then everything goes to the end of time. Now, we think that if you think of yourself as information,
Starting point is 01:02:56 let's say you burn a book and collect everything that comes out of the book, all the ashes and all the gas and everything. Then in principle, you can reconstruct the book. Information is conserved in all of physics, which means that if you can measure everything perfectly, you can predict what happened in the past and what's going to happen in the future. It's called determinism. If you jumped into a black hole, then we do think that if a super being in the far future could collect every bit of hawking radiation for trillions and trillions of years and stick it into a giant quantum computer, then they could reconstruct everything that fell in.
Starting point is 01:03:31 So actually, in some sense, you come out. So this got me to thinking, if I go and like to say right now, let's see, what could I burn here? Okay, here's, here's a thing. Our pal Bill Duran made this for me years ago. It's like a mask. Okay. I might even be the mask. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Does the mask look like this from the mask? No, no, it's wooden and the mask mask mask is just a wooden mask. Oh, maybe the comic book looks like that, though. I don't know. I can't remember where this came from. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, he made this rad thing inside.
Starting point is 01:04:07 It's very nice. Scott and family. Thanks for being rad, Bill. anyway this is a long time ago but uh because we're not nice now and bill hates us yeah yeah exactly you used to be around now sadly anyway so this if i went outside right now and burn this into nothing but just smoke and ash the idea the concept that at a molecular quantum level everything is basically assemble assembleable information that that could all be reassemble forget about the black hole for a minute.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Like, that's just like a place where he said, well, yeah, we just sent everything in there that would go into nothing and into oblivion. But even if you just burn something and you burn this mask, and let's say in a thousand years, we finally get to a place with quantum computing that they could do this.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Somebody could go. Scott held a mask back in the year, 2023. How do we know? Well, we have this weird audio record of it. We would like to reconstruct that mask and it would be exactly what it was, including the actual molecular data because none of it's ever
Starting point is 01:05:10 truly lost, right? I don't know why this blew my mind, but it did. It just gave me the brain parts. Because the act of burning something seems to destroy it, so how could that work? So, I mean, there's nothing, it's like a fundamental law of
Starting point is 01:05:25 nature of physics, right? That energy, which matter is energy, energy is neither created nor destroyed. So like, you won't destroy at all, if you burn it because all the energy takes a form and all those all that energy is carried by force carrying particles and so if you could measure the momentum and the velocity and all those things of all of those particles and all of that energy released you you you theoretically i guess could put it back together i don't know if there's that's a deterministic perspective though there are some physics perspectives that are non-deterministic, I don't know which ones are most viable. I'm not that
Starting point is 01:06:14 knowledgeable about it, but there are some that look at quantum stuff and say that, oh, we can't ever know everything because of other quantum effects. But if you adopt, if you take the deterministic perspective, then yes, theoretically, there could be a way if you could measure everything. It's just, is the question, The more useful question, I guess, is, is that ever going to be possible to be measured? Because at the time that you burned it, Scott, we would have to be measuring everything that happened in that moment. The energy that comes from that burning process. Right. You'd have to have yeah, exactly. So hence the quantum or the quantification of that of that matter. And you would have to be
Starting point is 01:07:00 able to, yeah, you're saying it exactly right. You have to measure it exactly. And do we do, we're not even sure there are forces and elements in the greater universe that we just haven't experienced seen or been able to study yet. So there's like all these questions. Yeah. But I love this idea. Well, it is mind-blowing. And it is, there is a poetry to it. And that's what I like, that's what makes a great science communicator. And that's why Brian Cox is such a great science communicator, because he finds the poetry and all this stuff, right? Right. The real poetry to that is that what that means, if that's true, like forget whether or we will ever have the technology to make all those measurements.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Right. But let's say that the principle is true. If that's true, that means all the information of everything that has ever existed in our universe is still out there. And that means even more personally and poetically that everything you and I have ever done, maybe also scarily. but everything you and I have have ever done and ever seen and every moment of our lives is the information of all of that exists in the universe and it will always exist in the universe. Right. So it's kind of, for many people who are, who are, you know, non-religious like myself, that's a comforting
Starting point is 01:08:27 thought in a way, you know. Yeah, no, it is. to me it's like it's it's um you know you can get you can get all caught up in this idea that when your life ends blackness and you're out of here done yeah you won't even experience the blackness you don't know you're just done you don't you cease to exist um the concept that while that may still be true uh or some version of it your data your information your physicality all of that is trackable, traceable, potentially reassembleable, or at the very least, observable in some distant place or time, is really weirdly comforting.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Like, it's a strange thing. It's like, I don't know, I love this concept of we can, if we're good enough at tracking or at reading and quantifying this information now, then we should get better at quantifying how things are going to go, which I guess is the determinism part, right? Right. Like we can predict with clarity where what will happen. And I don't mean like you're going to get married or you're going to have a baby. I don't mean like those sorts of things.
Starting point is 01:09:45 But I mean like being able to say, well, what we know about this part of thermal this or, you know, the way an atmosphere works that way or whatever that we know at a certain time. This is all, I'm making this up. But Jupiter is going to fall apart exactly. This time, 200 million years from now, and these are the reasons why, because we are able to assemble all the math right up to that moment. And there may be some things we haven't considered, like, well, we forgot about B-4-2-8-9 coming from the meteor side, and it's going to smack into it and it's going, but in theory, that's also part of the quantification. Like, you're looking at that and going, okay, well, we've already added that math in there. Like, at the end of the day, it's all math.
Starting point is 01:10:26 For whatever reason, it makes my brain just swim. I love it. It's really cool. I think it's cool, too. Everything, everything has an effect on everything else in the universe, gravitationally, you know, cosmic waves, all this kind of stuff. So it's pretty cool. It's a good time. It's very cool. Well, you didn't bring that. You brought something else. Tell us what you brought. What are we doing? Yeah, I'm going to take us from deep, heavy thinking to maybe some annoying thoughts. But let's start with something light first, which is to lighten the moment. mood for a second, which is that I just read, I don't have a lot of information on this, but I thought it was fun to share with you guys. I just read
Starting point is 01:11:05 last week about a beetle that gets eaten by a frog and survives by running out of the frog's anus. Really so. Wow. That food just went right through me basically is what we're looking at. Dang, dude. Also, what a gear shift
Starting point is 01:11:22 from what we were just talking about. This is fantastic. All right. Continue. It'll end up in the frog's pants. how ironic well done well planned wow um yeah it's really funny apparently the the beetle just moves really fast to the digestive tract right um and what it does is when it gets to the end because a frog like it has to the frog has to poop right for you can't just crawl the sphincter muscles are very strong um and the frog doesn't very often but what the what this beetle does is it like wiggles its hind legs hind legs in the hindgut
Starting point is 01:11:55 stimulating the frog to poop like causing it to go so it's not just running through the body he's actually triggering the the frog to kind of help them along do frogs not have um like a crazy twisted intestine like we do like uh well because they're smaller i'm guessing it's just a little bit more direct sure that's true i don't know because we're like what 20 we got like 25 uh 20 feet 25 feet of intestines and that and the whole reason for the length as some food gets processed immediately or really quickly yeah and then others takes forever to absorb so you give you more length yeah it takes a long time to absorb all that stuff and the longer your intestines are the more you can absorb and the more you can use so
Starting point is 01:12:39 right and that's why people can the funny thing is as kketsumi right yeah so the funny thing is the way they tested how the how the beetle gets out is they because they suppose they hypothesized that it might be that so they took some beetles and bound their legs with wax so they couldn't move and then they never got out that's awful I feel bad for the frog you got a freaking spiky-legged little bastard in there trying to get down out of the back end of things that's awful yeah gross but anyway that's that isn't what I came I actually came with an update you remember a little while ago we talked about the FDA having an advisory panel that that finally said like hey it looks like this phenylepherine stuff this over-the-counter
Starting point is 01:13:25 pseudofed phenylephrine doesn't work. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it with you and then Dan later and yeah, it seemed like that thing was doomed. Yeah, and we were wondering what's going to happen. Like, sure, it's doomed. The FDA can say whatever they're going to do, but is it going to stay on the shelves? How long will it stay on the shelves and everything? And I cynically said, well, pharmacies and businesses, they're going to sell it and make money off it for as long as they can. And it'll take a little a while, but it turns out, I just read this today, CVS is voluntarily taking phenylifrin products off the shelves.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Really? In anticipation of this happening, and they're not waiting for it to happen. Wow. They're doing it ahead of time. So that's good. I guess so. That's the most, that's the most, how do I put this? That's the first time I've heard CBS brought up in the last six months where they weren't being
Starting point is 01:14:21 dicks. It was a positive. It's the first positive news from CVS, basically. Yeah, CVS is going through some rough times right now. They really are. By the way, the CVS receipt is longer than the large intestine and the small intestine combined. That's true. That's because your lower priced items absorbed first, and then later on, your foot massager takes a long time, Brian, to metastasize.
Starting point is 01:14:45 To pass through the receipt. But you got to get those extra bucks. That's right. Well, that's interesting. So when they do that, I mean, obviously there's no mandate to do it, but what if, well, what is the FDA doing? Are they retest, are they trying to confirm this? Are they in a position of like, well, we think it doesn't work, but we've got to make sure. Like, what's this? It's pretty well thought that the FDA is going to remove phenylifrin from the drug monograph so that it won't be, it won't be something that they list as something that is, that is effective, right? Right. And if that happens, then, then it. it's dead in the water the drug is and it'll be taken off shelves but but it just takes a while right um it just takes a while especially for you know bureaucracy in the government it just takes a long time for all that they have to i think i talked about last time how they can't just decide that
Starting point is 01:15:36 even if everybody at the fda even if they go around and take a pole cubicle to cubicle in their offices and everybody's like yeah take it off the shelves they can't just do it no uh because they have to open it up to public comment from from from um for the country uh the country has to look at it and be able to say and then the idea for this is for experts to be able to do it but technically you and i could go on there and make public comment as well it seems like a mistake that they would let you carry a lot less weight though right like we're right i hope basically yeah we get a 10th of a vote compared to uh yeah i hope that's the case yeah i hope that's the case but um but they have to go through a process of public comment and then review those
Starting point is 01:16:22 comments and then and then eventually um it's expected that they'll make that decision um but for anybody by the way who who's listening now and doesn't know what we're talking about it's really simple they reviewed a bunch of evidence for over-the-counter uh pseudo pseudo pseudo fed or a drug that's in over-the-counter suitor, which is phenyl-ephyrine. It's not the, it's not the pseudofedad you have to talk to your pharmacist to get. That's good. That stuff works really well. That's got pseudoephedrine in it, and that's really good.
Starting point is 01:16:50 It works really well. But you have to talk to the pharmacist. The pseudofed you get out on the shelf that's not behind the counter, has phenylephrine in it. And it's been known since at least around 2007 that that doesn't work. But it's just taken a long time. That's a long time. finally. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That's the year the iPhone came out. Yeah. No kidding. Weird. And it's just a pain. And the whole reason is because the drug gets metabolized in the gut before it gets into your small intestines, right? So less than 1% of it even makes it into the small intestines. So it just doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Let me ask you this. Why 07? Why not sooner? Because my mom was giving me that. stuff when I was 12 and had a cold. Well, it was originally approved in everything back in the 60s and 70s based on a small number of studies that were done that were just, that were flawed. And it was, it's, it's highly suspected.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And maybe even somehow proved that at least one of those studies had straight up fraudulent data in it. Whoa. And it's just the studies were bad. And back then the FDA was horribly underfunded. during, it's always been underfunded, but it was underfunded during a time when they, the FDA had a mandate to review a bunch of old drugs because they had just changed their criteria for, for things going on the drug monograph and for things being approved. So, so because they changed a bunch of criteria, they had to go back and re-review a bunch of old drugs. And it's just, their same stuff like this just made it through with poor evidence. It was unfortunate. It wasn't really, it wasn't really hurting anybody necessarily. except it just wasn't doing much. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:41 But it has the potential to our people. You know what hurts? What it hurts is you're supposed to be relying on the FDA as our chief point of contact when it comes to what's safe and what isn't. And when they are weird about it, this is also true of the opioid stuff. Like there was some weirdness there. You have to be able to trust that damn institution, man.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So when you erode that, it's terrible for us. It's actually worse for us doing that than if it was just a mistake like, oh, we let the suit to fit in by accident. It was the janitor let him in or whatever the thing is. But we need them to be on as close to perfect as they can be in that way, right?
Starting point is 01:19:22 Yeah, exactly. And so it's good that CVS is taking it off the shelf. Consumers were spending $2 billion a year on it. Oh, shit. So that's good that it's coming off the shelf. The frustrating thing for people like me and I read an article on Ars Technica that mentioned this as well
Starting point is 01:19:39 the very frustrating thing about CVS's decision is that they're taking this off the shelf, but they're still doing stuff like selling homeopathy next to other actual effective medications. They probably use
Starting point is 01:19:55 the shelf space to put even more in there if I had to guess. Like what else are going to put in there? It wouldn't surprise me because that stuff sells just, you know, also, but why it just frustrates me because why if the FDA is telling you that this doesn't work and we also have evidence from the FDA and it says that homeopathy doesn't work then why are you still selling the homeopathy well part of it is the FDA you know but the law is that they can't
Starting point is 01:20:20 put on the label they have to put on the label and none of this none of these claims have been approved by the FDA right that's on every one of those bottles sort of yeah they should be if they if they're not they're I think they're in violation of the law right I think they have to do that? Not necessarily. It has to do with, there's, there's, so back in the 90s, there was this dietary supplement and health education act. It was back in 1994. It's called DeShay. And it was lobbied for by a bunch of, by a bunch of alternative medicine proponents and primarily, I think it was proposed and drafted by a homeopath. But in this law, that did a lot of things but one of the things it did is it added the language into the law that said that if you
Starting point is 01:21:10 don't make medical claims on your product then and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't have it right in front of me but the idea is if you don't make any medical claims then you don't have to then you're fine oh I see okay and so they can say things like like like Like, you can't say this will, you know, cure your cancer. Right. You can't say that, right? That's a medical claim. But you can say things like immune boosting.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Yeah. Because that's like a vague non-medical claim, right? Or like, my favorite is not a cis. What's the word? It, when something... AIDS. And what did you say? What was the word?
Starting point is 01:21:57 AIDS. AIDS is good. There's another one, though. It's like, this product. Promotes? That's it. I hate that so bad. Promotes. Good health. Yeah. As soon as I see helps promote, it's like saying that, you know, I don't know, cap and crunch is part of a complete breakfast when you realize that everything on that commercial is eggs, bacon, you know, juice, like 400 other things. And then somehow they're eating a big bowl of,
Starting point is 01:22:24 you know, it's all bullshit. And I hate it. Promotes. Come on, man. Promotes. Yeah. It's just very frustrating. Homeopathy for those who don't know is witchcraft. That's really what it is. It doesn't work. If you see a product on the shelf that says that it's homeopathic, just don't pick it up. It doesn't work. And there aren't a lot of things in the world of science that I feel super comfortable just saying that about. Homeopathy is one of the things I absolutely feel comfortable saying that about. It's based on just crazy ideas, the two ones being the law of similars or light cures like, the idea that if a Substance causes a symptom in a healthy person, then somehow, through magic, it's capable of treating a disease that has that symptom.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah, that's annoying. That doesn't make any sense. And also the law of infinitesimals, which is that the more you dilute a substance, the more potent it gets. Which, again, doesn't make any sense. What do you do about that, though? Because some of these people, while I think some people have dark intentions and know what they're saying is bull crap, there are some people that really. really, really bite. It's like I had a friend once who told me he had a conversation under a pecan tree with Jesus. Now, some of you out there may go, oh, well, I've had that
Starting point is 01:23:45 matter. Well, whatever. That's not my point. My point is, I don't think there's any way in hell he had a conversation with anyone under that pecan tree, but he's so sure that he did. It won't ever matter what I say. To me, it's like this. It's like somebody who really buys into, well this has been promoting my health for years or whatever how am i supposed to communicate with that person i can't convince them of anything yeah don't try to convince them because it it won't work it's folly isn't it that's a waste of time yeah exactly yeah all right and uh so so yeah it's um it's it's it's it's it's silly the the way it works i i um i just and again it frustrate there's actually a lawsuit right now the the this
Starting point is 01:24:31 the center for inquiry is a is a is a is an organization that tries to it's like consumer protection organization run by scientific skeptics and everything and they're in the middle of a very long lawsuit with with Walmart and CVS to try to get them to take homeopathy off the shelf or at least stop selling it next to actual effective medication so that there's not you know market confusion and stuff like that sure Um, but, uh, hopefully, hopefully, but, uh, but they, they confuse people when they sell the stuff. That's how they get away with it is because they put tons of, they have whole marketing teams that, that make it so that, you know, it'll say things like, like, you know, treats, whatever. Uh, you know, maybe they don't say treat because I just said how they do it. But they'll say it's for colds or something like that. And then it'll say no, you know, has zero side effects. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:28 you know like of course it has zero side effects it's it's a sugar pill it's a sugar pill yeah it doesn't do anything um but uh anyway yeah the ones that say water homeopathy is water and yes it's it's it's it's that's what they do is they dilate it with water and until it's the substance is no longer in the dilution yeah so it's effective i've got a mother-in-law who did the whole silver thing for a while she doesn't listen to the show it's fine yeah um But she was eating, eating or intaking, whatever you did with silver nitrate, something, concentrate, something. And she was sure, this was the end all be all. And she was telling all of us at every get together, oh, this is going to change your life.
Starting point is 01:26:12 This is going to change your life. We're like, no, I'm good. I'm not eating that metal. Thank you so much. If you want to give me your silver in like ring form, maybe I'll take that. We'll take it that way. Take it to the pawn shop, see what I can get for it, whatever, but I'm not eating silver. And then famously around the time, there was that dude on some talk show who was full on blue.
Starting point is 01:26:33 He looked like Papa Smurf. And it turns out if you take too much silver in quantities that were more than were, you know, being recommended even by, you know, quote unquote, pseudo science, whatever, you would, your skin would change. You would get this blue hue to yourself. Wow. And I showed her this picture. Heavy metal poisoning is a real thing. Yeah, basically that. And I showed it to her and I said, you know, you're heading toward this.
Starting point is 01:26:58 She goes, what's this? I go, this guy's been taking silver. Never, never heard about silver again at any family get-togeth. No more silver. All gone. All because I showed a picture of this Papa Smurf-looking guy. So I guess what I'm saying is. You did a good thing.
Starting point is 01:27:13 I did a good thing. And mainly I was just trying to like go around her. Because I knew that a conversation with her wasn't going to do shit, right? Sure. But for me to go, well, look at this. How about this guy? You know, and as far as she knew, what's great about susceptible people is I could have shown her that picture, or I could show that picture to a skeptic and they would have gone, why is he blue? That doesn't sound right. Like they would question the blueness of the man, right? Right, right. But she didn't even do that because she buys stuff whole hog no matter what she hears or when she hears it. So it was perfect. I could have given her a fake blue guy. Her lack of skepticism actually worked in her favor this time. Got her off the stuff. I could have showed her blue man group on stage staring at the camera. camera and said look at these three men one and four they've taken so much silver and she would
Starting point is 01:28:00 have believed me and stopped taking silver so yeah i got her with her own medicine sort of in a weird way uh well there you go uh take that pseudoscience and BS claims take that uh bobby always fun doing this what's your uh what's up what's on tap for uh all around science this week yeah all around science that's the podcast that we do me and my co-host mora so um we do science every week all around science. We just did an episode where I talked about El Nino. The Nino.
Starting point is 01:28:33 It's an El Nino year. How many times does he escape prison? Oh, wait, that's L. Chappalo. It's an El Nino year this winter and it's going to have effects on all of us here in North America. And so, I figured, well, people are going to be hearing about that a lot because the El Nino cycle gets worse
Starting point is 01:28:50 as climate change impacts things more. so I figured this year we're going to hear people are probably going to hear a lot about that let's let's talk about what it is in fact I didn't even know all about it I've been hearing about it since I was a kid
Starting point is 01:29:05 you remember back in the 90s there was a joke it was like the thanks Obama of the 90s everyone blamed El Nino everybody blamed El Nino oh yeah right yes I totally remember that I think that's what inspired the Chris Farley SNL bit where he played the Nino that whole thing
Starting point is 01:29:22 yeah El Nino Spanish for than me. Well, that's interesting. I honestly don't understand that much about it either. I just keep hearing everyone saying this year that, boy, you thought snow last year was a lot. Get ready for this year because that's what I'm hearing too. Cold, wet, lots of wet, sloppy snow. Yeah. And it depends on where in North America you live, too, because that's what we down here. But in Canada up and in Canada, they're going to have very dry warm. Oh, that's good to hear for them. Well, no, it's not. No, that's bad to hear. It's bad to hear, but it's nice if you're like oblivious. Let's say you're an idiot and you're just up there. You're just enjoying some sweet weather and you don't know why, right? I love how you're amending your statement.
Starting point is 01:30:09 You're right. It's not good, but it is if you're dumb. It's good for dumb people. It's fantastic for idiots, but it's not bad for, you know, it's bad for the rest of us. We're like, oh, the climate, the climate. But up there, you got, you know, Joe Schmo going, hey, what's the how's going, hey? It's nice and warm day. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:30:24 right no offense canadans canadian no offense but but i'm offending you except for you dumb people who uh like the warm weather oh my gosh uh do check it out though that is all around science wherever you get your podcasts and uh bobby's all over our community so join our discord and hang out and ask bobby questions it might inspire a future segment you never know bobby have a fantastic week man you too i'm glad you're feeling better by the way i can hear it in your voice yeah i'm all over it's good much better you must have taken a an immune support pill from somewhere. Yes, I supported my immune system with some sugar pills.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I knew it would work. All right. See you later. How do I fix that? Oh, there it is. Brian's still there. Okay, good. I'm still here, everybody.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Stay still here. Didn't screw that up yet. Okay. What else we got going? Oh, quick note. We got a call. This is about those catalogs that I was talking about Vanguard got for... Yeah, like the Amazon toy catalog that...
Starting point is 01:31:20 Yeah. Since then, we've gotten a Target one. That's some other one. Oh, really? Yeah, and he loves them. I'm sure. sits on the couch. And we keep doing this fun thing with, in fact, do I have video of this?
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't know if I do. This is really funny. Is this it? Hold on. Can you hear that? No. Okay, you can't hear that. I don't have the right one anyway.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Okay, well, anyway, the deal was he sat down and he would say, and we would go, hey, that's for your sister Phoebe. And he'd go, no, that's for me. me and then he point to another thing and I go oh that's for Phoebe no that's for me pops that's for me like he's having a he's having a moment of like everything should be for me right right oh my but anyway we got a call about it from the perspective of our favorite postal worker oh cool on how stuff work mr postman and he has this to say oh stamp and box it is mr postman so it's calling in regards to brian wondering about the amazon flyer um
Starting point is 01:32:23 Now, obviously, you guys figured out that it's a good business idea for them because it captures little kids. But as a postal worker, I want to direct you guys to know why they're actually there. So the Postal Service has an amazing contract with Amazon to give them an incredibly low shipping cost. It's why they can still do two-day shipping at a very low price to go to other places. Part of the bundle deal contract that we have with Amazon is that they have to send out so many. suppliers throughout the course of the year giving us even more business. So we give them a deal on shipping and they ship extra stuff with us that maybe they wouldn't have shipped anyway, but it gives us more money. So that is the real like behind the curtain reason why that happens. And I thought I
Starting point is 01:33:10 would call you guys and let you know. Love the show though. Have a great day. The only part that I'm confused about is how does that make more money for them? For the postal service. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because if their contract is they're getting paid, they give them a lower rate, I guess it just means increased volume. Increased quantity, right, exactly. Lower rate means more packages shipped that way. That makes sense, which would make it worth it to the Postal Service, I guess. Hey, Mr. Postman, ever have to deliver the day the U-Line catalogs come out? I made the mistake of buying some boxes from U-Line, and now I can't get them to stop sending me this catalog, which is, it's like a small yellow.
Starting point is 01:33:52 pages. Oh man. I'm trying to think what you line is like packaging shipping stuff like like not custom size boxes but you can say all right well I've got like when I was doing the A&TP things like okay I've got this tumbler that's this big I've got this other thing that's this big it needs to be this big around and you just go on their catalog and say oh there's the exact right size box so I can just put padding in there and not have any wasted space and ever since I did that is like just give me an online catalog I'm fine I don't care I don't want that thing but now I get this big thick stupid catalog yeah TV's Travis says you will never stop getting those uline catalogs same with same with red fragel you're gonna get them for the rest of your life
Starting point is 01:34:40 it's yeah it's the new AARP dude you're just never going to not have them oh my god it's just horrendous are they historic everybody I've just found everybody in the tadpool that gets U-Line catalogs. I'm pretty sure we go on too. I think Kim just throws it away. But do we, is that a place I could go? They have stores?
Starting point is 01:34:57 They might. I don't know where their home office is. Maybe. Maybe you could go there, but. You have to move, says Graham Ellis. Yeah. It's like, just like a nuke it from space. That's the only way to be sure.
Starting point is 01:35:11 That's funny. Well, I guess they know their business. I don't know. Those people are crazy. All right. That's great stuff. Thank you. Mr. Postman.
Starting point is 01:35:20 for your thoughts. Another note, we had somebody asking in the Discord what happens to the playdates after we're done. And we keep them. They're up on YouTube. They're not hidden or tucked away or patron only or anything like that. If you go to YouTube.com slash Scott Johnson,
Starting point is 01:35:36 there's a whole category for TMS and FrogPants plays. They go in both categories just to make sure people catch them. And we keep all the playdates in there. So this last week, when we played the new Jackbox 10, that entire two hour and 10 minutes, stream is all there. So you can get it. We don't hide those. So there was some confusion about it. A few other people said, yeah, I didn't know about those either. So if you've missed them and you want to watch those and you weren't able to be there live, we also do them live. I should say that.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Go check it out. Once a month, you'll get a brand new one. YouTube.com slash Scott Johnson or the quickways frogpans.tv that'll take you to the sort of streaming page stuff. Cool. That is going to do it for today's show. Big thanks to everybody who supports us on Patreon. We're about to roll over into November. When that happened, It's a great time to hop in if you never have it before. You can take advantage of all our cool benefits. Go read about them today at patreon.com slash TMS and become a part of the larger family. We want to see that grow this year.
Starting point is 01:36:32 All right, 2024 is the year of magical growth. We want to support your immune system and get you in. You know, a lot of podcasts do sell a lot of supplements and crap. You notice that? Yeah, do they? I'm sure. Rogan does. Rogan's got something.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Oh, Rogan's got like five things. I'm sure, yeah. These are made from my toenails, and it'll help promote, whatever, it's all bullshit. Borderline Info Wars, basically, is Rogan's deal. So maybe we'll make, dude, I had an idea. Yeah, there we go. Let's make a fake supplement. Let's put you and I in the front all muscled up and going, whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:10 And then we'll be all straight about it. It's like, yeah, this is just a sugar pill, but. It's Kool-Aid in a new package is what it is. Yeah, I'll bet we sell a few. It'd be all right. I think we should. I love the idea. Anyway, that'll do it for us. We're going to get out of here with a little music.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Brian Broughtson. What are we playing? I do. This one's going out to Jack the Knife. So we, just getting to the end of the month and got still a few October emails requests to get to. So if you have not heard your October request yet, chances are I'll still get to it because there aren't a lot of November requests yet. So hint, hint, if you've got something you want to hear in November, some anniversary, birthday, something. Then go over to frogpants.com slash TMS and submit a request.
Starting point is 01:37:56 This one's going out to Jack the Knife. Greetings, Scruff and Buff. October 30th is my lovely wife's birthday. We originally dated in high school back in 2003. Stayed friends for years and then eventually got married after a long time with many life experiences. I want to shout her out and surprise her on her spooky birthday. So I'm requesting anything Elton John related since he's one of her favorites or even anything Halloween since she's basically a Halloween baby
Starting point is 01:38:21 missed it by a couple hours signed Jack the Knife Nice Very nice Oh yeah let's give her some birthday Let's do let's do this one Happy birthday I'll do her when it's a lady
Starting point is 01:38:35 Let's part No that's a lady too Whatever we'll just do what we want to do And then I'll play this Diarrere I hope you don't get diarrhea Perfect Perfect
Starting point is 01:38:42 This is a cover This is from the album Something Like Human From the band Fuel I'm amazed We haven't played this on TMS before, but we're playing it now. Here's their cover of Elton John's Daniel. See you guys tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I can see the red tail lies and for spade, oh and I can see Daniel waving goodbye God looks like Daniel must be the clouds in my eyes This is It's been as pretty Well, I've never been And Daniel says
Starting point is 01:40:04 It's the best place That is I've seen No and You shouldn't know He's been there enough Lord I miss Daniel oh I miss him so to months no Daniel my brother
Starting point is 01:40:31 you are older than me do you still feel the pain nor the scars that would heal Your eyes have a light But you see more than I And Daniel you're a star In the face of the sky Oh, then you're my brother, you are my brother, you are order to let me, till you still,
Starting point is 01:41:42 pill the pain All the scars that won't heals Your eyes have light But you see more than I Daniel you're a star In the face of the sky And that you're silent tonight on the plane I can see the red tail lights
Starting point is 01:42:16 and if we're spayed no end I can see that no waving goodbye God it looks like Daniel must be the clouds in my eyes no God it looks like Daniel Must be the clouds in my eyes. Get more at frogpants.com Always bet on black.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Always.

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