The Morning Stream - TMS 2552: Prickly Mouth Feel

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

V is for Vomit, that's good enough for me. It's Funny Scott Day On TMS. Opening a Can of Whoop Worms. Today's episode is brought to you by the letters U, V, and H. We should have mugged 2500. The mirror takes no reflection and leaves no reflection. Wasn't There a Show with Jon Stewart Called the Jon Something Show? Pop rocks carbonated the bad meat. Please un-lurk and speak up. Dashing behind the peaches. Please hit me so I can get a new car. Can mirrors see, because stoners, like, really want to know! I Don't Know Why That Played. I played bass with Somerset Gimp in the 90s. Baby faced Nick gets hitched. I'm the problem with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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with John Stewart called the John Something show? Pop rocks carbonated the bad meat. Please unlurk and speak up. Dashing behind the peaches. Please hit me so I can get a new car. Can mirrors see because stoners like really want to know? I don't know why that played. I played

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Hey, silly boy, silly boy, silly boys. The morning stream, don't eat that, it's Pluto. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, November 9th, 2023. Scott Johnson here. Brian Abbott there. Yes. Woo. Woo. It's our, it's our week, regular show week final episode, even though we have a couch party tomorrow. Yeah, we hope you patrons come and watch live or watch it later. We don't care which way you do it, but we love to have you. As long as you watch it, as long as you come have fun somehow. Yeah, part two of.

solo tomorrow. That's right. We watched the first half. So far, I'm kind of having a good time with it. Yeah, for sure. It's, uh, you know, it's no Rogue One. No. But it's, but it's good. It's no Rogue One. Some people hate Rogue One, but I don't know what's wrong with them. They're wrong. Those people are wrong. But it's good to have you all here. We're going to do a show. We got Wendy later. We got a bunch of other stuff. Got some news we'll get to, I'm sure, today. All this sort of stuff. But to start things off, Brian today. Yes. Is I itch my eye?

Hold on. There we go. I got two calls about, I mean, we open the, we open the can of, how do you put it? We open the, the can of worms. The can of worms, thank you. Yes. I was going to say whoop ass, and that's totally wrong. Well, we might.

I mean, that's still open there. We might open a can of whoop-as. But for now, it's just worms. But we opened a can of worms when we talked about Disney lines and people having to take a dump in the line and all that. And I knew we were going to hear from people, but I didn't know. One of them would be Gary from Lantronics, formerly, now at Disney, soon to be retired. He had thoughts and some very interesting take. So here's the first call is from Gary.

He called 801-471-0462 and left this message about pooping in mind. This is who I'd expect to hear from, honestly, because he was, until he retired from there, our man on the inside. Yeah, nobody, who else would know? We don't know any other Disney people. Yeah, so. Unless you guys are just lurking and never speaking up, here's your chance. If you are, please, un-lurk and let's chat about free tickets. Unmore yourself from the darkness and let the truth be told.

Exactly. Here's what Gary had to say. Check this out. Hey, guys, it's Gary now no longer from Batu, Gary of leisure, I guess. You're talking about pooping in line at Disneyland. You didn't see a whole lot of that. even at Rise of the Resistance, but that would have been known as a code H. And for a long time, I wondered why it was a code H.

And that's because originally it was for horse manure on Main Street. But then we also have code V, which I'm sure you can figure out what that is, and code U. And we get a lot more of those two than we do of code H's. So just thought you'd like to know. Thanks. I don't know what code V is. Someone help me. Is that a barfer?

It's a puker? Yeah, vomit. I'm sure V stands for vomit. Oh, duh. Yeah, and you for urine. Yeah. A V I figured out, but a V was like not clicking, but of course it's vomit. Yeah.

Okay, all right. I saw a code V when I went there with the kids and Carter, Carter was like seven or eight, and she was so scared because we were doing Space Mountain. And she was so scared not because Space Mountain is scary, but because the line that gets you there is so thematic. and lit and the voice is going intruder in sector four

blah blah blah yeah there's like a like a hum the constant hum and yeah you feel like you're in this place that's very foreign and very intense and she says this ride's gonna make me throw up isn't it dad and I said no it's not at all

I promise you never throw up anyway everything's fine and as soon as I said that we rounded a corner and there was a big old barf patty on the ground oh no and it was around the corner like that means they hadn't even gotten on the ride yet yeah right exactly and she saw that and went i'm out and freaking just like bolted for the edge and never went never got on the ride that day but oh really oh funny but she did later right she's she's she's been since yeah she's she conquered that in fact she's my she's my

love's uh theme park person now in the family cool but when she was younger i thought she was gonna for you know forgo it forever but anyway so there's there there's one take all right so gary's seen some stuff okay so you're Gary letting us know about the, I thought it was going to be H for human. Like, okay, we have human poop in case there was dog poop somewhere, like somebody's assistive dog. Oh, right. I do like that based on the horses on Main Street, though.

I think that's great. Yeah, that makes sense. That totally makes sense. Kind of old-timey and Disney in its own way. Anyway, here's the other dude that wrote in or called in. Is Tom from the Hansry calling for the morning stream? First of all, oh, I got in buying. Second of all, you were just talking

I was listening to a Tuesday show about people leaving themselves in inappropriate places I work at a Walmart and we see that a lot people do it, people do it, dogs do it, kids do it, old people do it it's amazing

they just walk away how do they do that it makes no sense whatsoever I enjoy the show guys and see you later be silly, hang up first of all I love this guy this Tom guy

he's great never heard from him before but we'd love to hear from them again. Second of all, I didn't even think about it, but I guess Walmart has a tradition. Oh, reputation. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I've never seen, well, I did see a kid puke at a Walmart, but I've never seen any of this other stuff in any Walmart. Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever seen in person somebody pooping in a public place.

Yeah, not that I'm aware of. There may have been some, you know, some kind of clandestine exit. Sure, sure. I might have not noticed like somebody, you know, dashing behind the peaches. Somebody dashing behind the Tettino's bread display or something. Yeah. And that jar up in a quick deuce. Did your son work there?

Did Tristan ever hear? Well, I guess we'd have to ask him. Oh, I'll bet he did. Yeah. I'll bet. Because when you're there every day and you're working that many hours, I'm sure you see stuff. You've got to see stuff, like people pooping, I'm sure. Yeah, I'll have to ask him next time I talk to him.

He was over here. Day before yesterday was his brand new car, well, his new-ish car, his new-to-him car. Do you like it? Is it cool? Is it a little Audi, right? Oh, it's cool. It's an Audi TT, 2016, really sharp little sports car. So he's had two new cars in the time that I've still had my Kia Soul. I think it's time for Brian to get the upgrade. Dang it. Yeah, that's right. You've got to just go total it or something, you know, and then you're good. Right. Would somebody please run into me so that I could get a new car? And I'm sure it's not a problem to bring it up.

on the show and say go total it and then if you totaled it nobody would think you were right now now even if it happens accidentally which would happen accidentally i'll just say it right there it would happen accidentally yeah but now now when it if if and when it does somebody's going to say oh he just did it for the insurance we're going to have to purge episode 2552 from the earth just in case look at that 2552 you didn't even make a note about a fact that it's palindromic oh i didn't know i didn't even think of that i was i was supposed to mention the other day when it was 2550 because it just seemed like a milestone but then i forgot well like we're in the numbers where you just it's like whatever yeah exactly exactly we can't really i mean oh you know what 3 000 that's a

big one we'll do something sure that'll be a big one 2 500 was a big one although we did we even make a note of that one not really we didn't we didn't we didn't come out with a mug or anything for that one did we no i don't think so we did for 2 000 and we did for 1500 and 1 000 yeah so really 2 500 should have been uh should have been um We should have done something, but I'll tell you what. So within, it won't even take that long. Pretty quickly, we'll be at 3,000. We will definitely have a new mug.

Yeah. And we will celebrate it like men, all right? Okay. All right. 3,000. Yeah. And people will say, I love you 3,000. That'll be our Love You 3,000 episode.

Yep, and we'll hate it when they say that. We'll hate that. No, we won't. Will we love it? Will we love it? I feel like the hate will come out of me and that I will be hateful about it. Oh. I don't want to be.

Look, I don't want to be this way. It's not like, may the fourth be with you. I mean, that's a, you know, that's a, you know, that's a, that's a, that's an established Tony Stark, uh, one of the greatest lines from, uh, endgame, man. It was cute. You know what? You're right. Yeah.

And it didn't get overused. No. Okay. I'm getting, you know what? I'm turning around to it. Good. Excellent. The jury will disregard my previous comments.

We're going to allow this one. Okay. We're letting it. Sounds good. Sounds good. Uh, I had a. dream about a thing that I do need to share. I was really hyped up yesterday. There was a lot going on. Yesterday was a banana's day for me. Yeah, I mean, we got to talk about word on the street

at some point, too. I'm excited to hear about that. That is an awesome gig. I'll even play a little clip here. This was the moment on Greg Street's stream. So if you're not familiar with who Greg Street is, he was known as Ghost Crawler by most of the community when he worked at Blizzard. Prior to that, he was with Ensemble Studios, made amazing RTSs, like, was mostly, was the dude in charge of Age of Vampires 2, which is still amazing. And went on to do really great stuff at Blizzard. And then he left him, was put in charge of an MMO over at Riot and then left there. Not because he hated it at Riot.

He didn't. But he left Riot because there was just stuff to happen. His brother passed away. And he was like kind of reassessing what he wanted to do at the stage in his life. You know, he's kind of a rock star developer slash designer and didn't know what he wanted to do next so he decided to move to texas uh get a place out there raise some chickens and start a triple a a mmo studio with a bunch of people he's worked with over the years so he pulled a bunch of riot people a bunch of blizzard ex blizzard people people from ensemble even

and uh other other you know places anyway it's about a 30 person team right now or something i can't remember what the number is a good sized yeah good size to start with and they got a bunch of backing and they're doing this huge thing. Well, a couple of months ago, he approached me and said, hey, one of the things I want to do differently here, and it's important to note this, and people will remember this if you follow Greg's work when he was at Blizzard. He was very outspoken all the time, very much in contrast with the way Blizzard usually is. So most of the time when people would either be spokespeople or PR or you would get messaging

from Blizzard, it was all very controlled and careful. and made sure to not overstep or say too much or whatever. It was always very careful. But Greg was not. It was very protected, yeah. Yeah. In fact, the joke on the instance was he sent in a thing that says, I'm ghost crawler, I'm totally off the leash,

and you're listening to the instance. Oh, yes, right. I don't know why that played. Sorry. I don't know. It didn't with that. Hey, I hit a button I didn't mean to. But yeah, it was like an old, you probably did,

I'm sure you remember hearing it, right? I was wondering what that was about. Yeah. Yeah. So that was about him just being kind of off the leash, and they couldn't really control him, even though they tried. But it was always this back and forth, and it was a struggle. And it was always frustrating to him because he liked the transparency, liked to be able to go, you're right. That was a mistake. Here's what we did to fix it. Right. And let the people know, yeah, I mean, that's such a second dinner does that with the Marvel Snap. And they talk about, yeah, we really made a mistake. mistake by nerfing Eliath and we really we've decided to scale it back and return it back to what it was and and and it's that kind of communication that you know you instantly forgive a mistake a company makes if they do a whole maya culpa and say oh yeah we blew that sorry yeah and if

they're not and if they're put it back yeah exactly and if they're doing it in a I don't know there there there's one thing to you don't want too many cooks in the kitchen right that's the thing. But there's definitely room in the games business to open things up a little bit, work with players more, especially games that are very community driven like an MMO. And so that's what he wants to do with this new studio. It's called Fantastic Pixelcastle is the name of the company. And you can find it at Fantastic Pixelcastle.com. They did a whole AMA yesterday. And during the AMA, some of you may have heard Greg say this on the stream. If I can find it, here it is. We are going to do a podcast that we're partnering with our good friend Scott Johnson. So that was nice to hear. But that also

let me finally open up the gates and quit hiding the secret because for about two months I've known about this. And he approached me and said, I want to do this and I want to do this transparency thing. And I can't think of a better way to do it than a regular long form monthly show where we bring in artists, devs, me, you. And we just, just open it up and we say things like, you know, if somebody has a question like how much AI you guys are going to let into your process, we want to answer it honestly and straight and straight. And say this is what we're doing. This is what we're not doing. This is where our limits are. Like they want to be open and transparent in a way that is actually really weird in the industry. Most, most companies just straight up don't do this. Yeah. Yeah. They're afraid to. They're afraid that it, you know, results in some backlash or customers saying, oh, I liked it better the other way. You guys suck. Yeah, exactly. And there's, and, you know, there's always going to be somebody who's a poop. Sure.

But the idea is like, fine, let there be a poop. We're going to talk about it. We're going to be open about it. So starting on the 14th, which is what next, is that next Wednesday? Six days from now, or five days from now. Five days from now. Tuesday. We'll do our inaugural episode, and it'll be live.

We do it at 12 p.m. So noon Tuesday. And it will be, so about an hour after TMS ends. and it'll be our first episode. I think that one will probably be mostly me, Greg, maybe Holinka, maybe I'm not sure who all is going to be there. Oh, yeah, Brian Holinka, awesome dude at Blizzard. Showed up at a couple of live BlizzCon instance episode.

Just this nicest guy. I used to be in charge of PPP over there. I remember that name, yeah. He's awesome. He's coming. So another Brian in our lives. Bring one in. See, aren't you glad you didn't name the Cat Brian?

Oh, my gosh, dude. Every single day, I thank my lucky star is I didn't name the Cat, Brian. I'm sure you do. But it's all very exciting. And so to my point, the reason yesterday I was so hyped up as I had that going on, DTNS with no Tom, which meant I'm basically Tom for the show. Like, Sarah and I are alternating stories. So I had to be on point for that, which is a lot. And then this wedding, which I had to perform for my son.

So all this stuff going on. And as a result, I slept like shit. Oh, shoot. The night before you mean last night. last night yeah and it wasn't like bad it wasn't like oh you're sick or those reasons I just couldn't

stop my brain from firing blah blah blah I was thinking about the show today I was thinking about a segment we could do I was thinking about 10 other things I want to do like it was all very it was kind of good but not at night I need to sleep right right exactly yeah so I had this dream about a mirror and it asked a question in the dream

and now so now we're to the point let's get to the mirror yeah I gotta hash this out it kind of haunted me and still is sure sure you will never be the first face you see in a mirror this sounds like stoner talk but hear me out okay you'll like you may receive uh I don't know you could go outside and dig a rock up and it's it's entirely possible that that rock is the first you're the first human face that rock has seen or you're the first human face that rock has seen or you're the first humid face that's seen that rock okay that's possible you could do that sure sure pull it up out of the ground right exactly now nobody makes mirrors at home nobody does DIY mirror making i see what you're saying now okay so the very first reflection in a mirror will never be yours you'll never be the first face that those mirrors see someone somewhere somehow that the mirror sees correct that the mirror sees correct all right okay let's let's let's analyze all right so so um we're we we we When we visualize something being made, you and I, we grew up in an age where you saw things on the electric company and 321 contact where they showed factories, you know, long production lines and assembly lines and conveyor belts and Shlamylo Shl Mazel, Haas and Fefford, Incorporated, all that stuff.

So we assume that a mirror is produced by an empty conveyor belt, a big thing comes down, it comes back up and there's a mirror there all of a sudden. Yeah, let's say that that's true, or at least that's what we picture. I agree with that. I don't know how they do it starts out as a piece of glass, and then they paint the back with this mirror reflective coating and blah, blah, blah. So you're assuming that there is somebody standing over that section of conveyor belt that is looking, saying, yep, that's a mirror, yep, that's a mirror, yep, that's a mirror, yep, that's a mirror. or or see it doesn't even have to be the manufacturer though this could be at the store level it could be the guy at coals who set it up on the wall to sell it or the guy that oh okay so this brings up an interesting point yeah what if so this is good i'm glad i brought this up because you're you're pushing me in the right direction what if this mirror was made it's full manufacturing was made like this it's in a machine it's flattened out i don't know how they make it whatever mirrors do sure sure and then let's say it's just glass with silver on the back i don't know yeah it comes out of the of conveyor belt and is immediately has some semi-sticky brown adhesive paper attached to it. Right.

Well, that's, I was thinking about that. And somebody keeps calling me. One of my clients keeps calling me. Sorry, man, I'll text you and let you know I can't talk right now. Well, see, here's the, this is, a mirror is going to be very different than buying a frame or a, you know, something else that where the package you get contains the thing, but you don't necessarily need to. see the actual object you could be fine just looking at a picture of what that's going to be on the front of the box right right but a mirror you you uh i don't think they're going to put they might put a thing of reflective plastic on there or not reflective um a transparent plastic

on there to protect the glass from getting scratches and stuff like that yeah but it's going to be as clear as possible so you can when you're in the target when you're in you're in you're in the Walmart, whatever, and you're in the mirror aisle, you're looking at that saying, yeah, that's going to look good above my bed, Claire Gack, or, you know, or wherever you're going to be hanging in that mirror. Yeah, but you could be buying one. So you could see that as the display model in an IKEA or something, but you're actually going to pull a box off a shelf and take that one home.

And that one made. No, I don't think you're going to pull a box off a show. I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to visualize. I don't think there's ever a case where you're going to have a completely sealed box that's got a mirror in it. You're going to have cardboard around the outside that protects the corners and things like that. And you probably are going to have some sort of clear plastic over the glass to protect it from getting scratches.

Sure. Still reflective, though, right? Still could see the reflection in it. You're still going to be able to see a reflection, yeah. Okay. So there's probably somebody somewhere in the process, either at the retail end or the manufacturing end or somewhere in between. Or just a dude who takes it off the truck at the Walmart and puts it on the shelf. He's going to be, yes.

Now, the way you initially phrased it is yours is not the first face you're going to see when you look in that mirror. But then you changed it to yours is not the first face that that mirror is going to see. The stare, take no plums. Yeah, I screwed that up. I screwed that up the way I said it. Yeah. What would be cool, though, so you could make it like, there's a movie in this or something, like a supernatural, like, I guess Harry Potter kind of did this, but whoever was in the mirror before, it'd be cool if you could. conjure that up and then you

of Azra Zeta or whatever it was desire backwards yeah and then if what if you saw like you saw like a murder in the mirror you know and then you're like oh no and then we watch it for film sac and my intro was I'm looking for the murder

in the mirror you all wonder if it's hard for Brian to do those things sure the making of the song the singing of it the arranging and the recording of it that takes work but really these are all just at the tip of his freaking brain exactly it's just right there it just happens amazing well anyway i haven't watched slacker yet i've never even seen the film

and i've kind of already got a uh i've got a liegeal thing you've already got right now so yeah i think that's great uh the sausage getting made well anyway that i think that helps me that helps me a little bit it makes me a little less weirded out about it so that was so your dream was what the mere like uh it was this weird feeling that see this other thing is it's just a dream and dreams are weird they feel real while you're in them when you get out of them you're like what the frick but you're still left with some of the feeling but the feeling makes no sense to me it was an ominous feeling in the dream of i'm the i'm not the first face that's been reflected in this mirror what will i do it seems so important in the dream out of the dream

who gives a shit right oh you're such a wackadoodle man i know i don't understand it's so it's so freaking weird anyway now it's out of my system i don't have to think about it anymore I won't dream about it tonight. It'll all be good. Cool. And hopefully I can sleep tonight. I'm going to take a something tonight. Muscle relaxing.

Sure, sure. Here's a thing. We got a text from Colin wrote up. This is Colin. What was his name? The comedian that was the... Ferguson? Ferguson?

Colin. Colin, hey? Colin... Who? SNL desk, news desk. Oh, Colin Quinn. Quinn. I'm Colin Quinn.

That's the news. Get out of here. whatever is my slope, but I don't know. He seemed like such a meathead, but then if you watch his actual stand-up, that dude is really smart. He is really smart. Like his, basically, we first saw him, at least I'm sure your first taste of Colin Quinn was remote control.

Yeah, the John Stewart. Sandler and a bunch of people that went on to do great stuff, and then Kenover. And then Kenover. Oh, yeah. Why was I thinking, that's not the John Stewart thing. That was another MTV thing, right? That must have been another MTV thing. I don't remember a John Stewart.

MTV thing. Yeah, he had a show on MTV, but I always mixed the two up. You're right, though. It was remote control. He was kind of the... He was the scorekeeper, I think. Kind of the sidekick-ish. Yeah, but he had a bunch of sidekicks on that show, because he had

Adam Sandler, who'd come in there and do all the answer to the next question is 45. You know, be like some dumb Adam Sandler thing. Yeah. And then you had Kerry Wur, who was somehow a sidekick.

Yeah. And then you had Colin Quinn, and then you had Kenover. Yeah, and it felt like Colin Quinn did some announcing when the thing started. I think so. He was the scorekeeper. Yeah, if I remember. All right. God, that seems to be, that needs to be, that's got to be streaming somewhere, right?

Remote control with the popularity of all the people who are on there. Yeah. I wonder if there's, um, if there's anywhere that you can watch. that old TV show. By the way, how weird is it? Now that I say it out loud, that Adam Sandler got his start on a TV show called Remote Control and later went on to create a movie called Click where he has a magical remote control. What? What? That's insane. I'm also I'm an idiot. Mush Potatoes pointed it out. It's such a guitar hero moment. John Stewart's MTV show was called The John Stewart Show.

Wasn't there a show with John Stewart called The Something Show? So stupid, dude. I don't know why I don't remember that. I could not find remote control anywhere. I wonder if the MTV app has any of those. I'm sure YouTube, you can watch old episodes on YouTube. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, or whoever's doing Viacom now? Whoever's got that, they probably have old ones, I would think. All right, well, here's the, what was my point? Oh, Colin Rodin. Jeez. did we get back from this trip any rabbits looked all over down here and didn't see any rabbits none it's like we drove all the way to provo for this information this is crazy all right here's what colin says he wrote him via texas is dear beef and seltzer you know what this is about oh yeah here

it comes he says this is colin from reno nevada little Vegas we call it yeah i call it the biggest little city what are there they're the biggest little city in nevada or something something like that They have a slogan. Yeah, they do have a slogan. I haven't been to Reno in years, but I kind of liked it when I was there. It was all right. It was chill. It felt like a lot of old people, which seemed chill.

Yeah. I don't know. It's, I don't know. It's just, it's not enough Vegas for me. It's basically like, like, I mean, we have a small, we have some small mountain towns that have gambling and stuff. And they just try to do there. They're like little try hard towns of, of luck, we. have glitz and lights and stuff and it's like yeah that's that's cute and all that no uh it's not

it's not quite the same as it's not quite the same yeah well colin says this uh oh this is weird let me my chat app suddenly died and i don't know when i want to make sure the chat isn't actually affected looks like they're probably okay okay we're good here's the remainder of this email sure he says this is colin from reno nevada and i have a request please Do not halt the ongoing investigation slash search for carbonated meat. Brian seems hell-bent on putting this behind you, but I think I speak for large percentages of your listeners when I say, the effort must continue until we have a final answer.

It's one of the greatest things you have ever done, and I wish you, Godspeed, and your continued efforts to solve this great mystery, the people want answers. What do you think of that? All right, Colin, you got it. You know, people like reading Don Quixote. You're going to just throw that classic under the bus. I love it.

I love it. That's amazing. All right. Colin, look. People like watching this guided caballero shouting at windmills, basically. So let's keep it going. Let's keep it going. Look, I really do.

I want answers. I truly do. because I know I've had it. I know I've eaten it. I'm 100% positive on this. We saw that video that got me closer. I'm just curious as like how would you say you've eaten it? I swear I've eaten it.

I'm just like, how do you know it's carbonated? Like you just felt a little of your tongue. Well, you know how pop rocks have that little feeling of. Yes. It was like that, but in meat form. Oh God, you ate some bad meat then, man. I feel like I feel like there are two. possibilities if that was the case you ate some meat with some pop rocks on it or you ate some

bad meat and it's definitely one of the two well so i should probably yes since we're going to take in all possibilities it is possible like my idiot older brother mark or something played a trick on me or you know i just don't know the circumstances i don't freaking remember enough about when i had it or what the deal was yeah just remember oh please no definitely please continue not just for Colin's sake, but for all the people out there who feel like they need the closure that you need. They're all dying to hear. They all want to know. They all need to know. And so we're going to let them know. All right? We'll let them know. Exactly. Yes. Yeah, I think Redfragel has an idea, too, nanobots in the meat. That's, that's just as likely. You ate some, you eat some meats with

nanobots in it. Jay in the chat seems to be thinking like you. He says, are you sure you didn't need a rotten steak? I don't think. I was never sick or anything. I mean, wouldn't I be sick from it? It should have been. I don't know. Depends on how rotten it was, right? Like, you know, you could have eaten a steak that was just on its way to being really bad.

And it was first stage is leaving your tongue with a little bit of a prickly mouth feel. Could have been. Yeah. Maybe the second time I've said the word mouthfeel. And the first one was probably during an episode of whatever, that Alton Brown cooking, show is when he said it and I said oh I think I hate the term mouthfeel I don't like it at all it's a gross term it's not cool yeah yeah max trollbot says not all the people I want no part of this he says that's a great that's awesome you get the people want answers the people want answers don't

they yeah code wow thinks he says I had a McDonald's burger and that that sensation uh from how bad it was made you think it was carbonated oh look at that so not even not even a bad like a spoiled meatburger, just a bad hamburger. You just ate a bad, like a, not a bad from a spoiled standpoint, but just a bad from a poorly made, poorly created standpoint. Yeah, or somebody put pop rocks in there. It's entirely possible. I mean, I'm just saying, I'm taking all theories.

I just, you know, I'm just, I just need to know the answer. Sure. Anyway, we're going to do some news now. And it's, we're here to inform, to entertain, and help you go home with more knowledge and you came here with so here we go good morning good morning everybody in the news this morning good morning it's time for the news and it's brought to you by brought to you by coverville today at noon yes we're back at noon because uh today is a q and a day for the training and it'll probably end by noon and even if it doesn't those are recorded i can watch them anytime so noon

uh mountain time that is twitch dot tv slash coverville hey joanie mitchell just turned 80 and if you like songs like uh freeman in paris blue carry the dry cleaner from from Des Moines, Woodstock, Big Yellow Taxi, River. I mean, all of those great songs, you're going to love hearing them performed by other people. Like folks like Girl Puppy and Tim Curry and Goldie Haunt. What, Goldie Hawn? Yes, Goldie Hawn, who in 1972 recorded a cover album. That's right.

Frenti, Jenna and the Charmers. Oh, my God, so many great artists. You're going to hear them today. Twitch.tv slash Coverville at noon. Even if you think you don't like Joni Mitchell, you're going to like this episode. So I guarantee it. I just found a picture of her at 80. She just looks so cool to me.

She does. She looks like your aunt who you're going to, you know, go visit when you're out in some, you know, visiting some part of the country. It's like, oh, I'm going to go see my Aunt Joni. How you doing, Johnny? Good. You need anything? Let's go.

Absolutely. She looks awesome. All right. Check that out today. What time did you say? I'm sorry. It was the old time, new time. New time.

12 noon. 12 noon, everybody. Joni and Marvel Snap. Nice. Because I don't want to hook up everything to play Rumble. Warcraft Rumble. Yeah. Would you, is it all, you'd have to do something different than you currently

with the way you play it? Yeah, like Snap, I can, there's an app, a Mac app that I can just play it on my computer and then drop it right into OBS. But to do Marvel or to do Warcraft or any other game, I have to re-hook up the, the, uh, ow, the, uh, whatever it's called over here. The, uh, the little, uh, little puck device that, uh, pulls in, uh, HDMI, uh, stream deck, uh, stream deck, stream deck, stream deck, stream deck. Stream deck, stream deck, stream deck, because if it was steam deck, that would be a, that's not it.

I have one of those right there, a steam deck and a stream deck. Stream deck, steam deck. I played Diablo in bed on that thing last night because I couldn't sleep. Did you? Let's see. That helps a lot. Yeah. Playing Diablo right before. That's a good way to make sure that you sleep well. I even thought, was there a quest I did that was about a mirror or a mirror image or something? I don't know.

Maybe. Oh, maybe. That's an interesting thought. Like that's where you, yeah. It's entirely possible. It's all vampires this season. So I don't know. Who knows what's going on in there?

Sure. Here's your first story. A Somerset Gimp. All right. The kind you're thinking of. Yep. Okay. Yeah, like the Pulp Fiction Gimp.

Yeah. That kind of gimp. Bring out the gimp. Bring out the gimp. was banned from wearing a gimp suit in public and, quote, crawling, wriggling, and writhing on the ground, unquote, for five years. Oh, man.

This is a real bummer. This is in the UK, by the way. I like, okay, I love it. But he's known as the Somerset Gimp. Yep. Like, this is his, this is his title. You can't tell the naked cowboy to put clothes on. Raise your hand if you remember the naked cowboy.

Oh, my gosh. He's still, is that still a thing, you think? guy in Times Square wearing underwear playing guitar, the naked cowboy. I don't know if he's still a thing. I have to assume gravity's taking its toll by now and he's not looking that great, but I don't know. What do I know? He was a huge deal, though, in like the early 90s, he was a huge deal, though, is what

I meant to say. Did I say dildo? Anyway. Dildo, he's a huge dildo. He's a huge dildo. A man known as the Somerset Gimp has been banned from dressing that way and his all black gimp suit in public at night doing all that stuff for five full years. Joshua Hunt, age 32, was issued with.

the sexual risk order after police linked him to 25 incidents across the country. This is again in the UK. Don't be blaming us for this one, you guys. The order also prevents the self-employed Gardner from wearing any type of mask or face covering in public unless for medical reasons.

District judge imposed the restrictions following a hearing in Bristol magistrate's court just a week after Hunt was convicted of two offenses under the Public Order Act of intentionally causing harassment harm or distress or alarm or distress. Last week, hearing, let's see, heard how a man in all black gymsuit had terrified two female motorists in May this year in Bleeden near Weston Supermare. You guys just make up town names just willy-nilly, don't you?

It sure feels like that. Yeah, Weston Supermare. What even, what have been is that? Anyway, apparently this dude's been doing this since 2018 in very remote locations. the evidence is what they say in this quote the evidence of the earlier incidents is based upon intelligence reports and the latter reports in more specific says the judge if the court is satisfied with the intelligence of the earlier incidents were of a sexual nature and committed by the defendant there is material within that bundle that relates to that of a sexual nature and the acceptance of necessity you guys talk gibberish over there yeah no kidding exactly so oh geez I don't like the master that the Somerset... We got a photo? I didn't know we got a photo.

Yeah, there's photos in the link. And it's not just one mask. He has multiple masks that he wears. Oh, okay. Here we go. Oh, yeah, there is. With the sewn-in cross-outs? Yeah, the X, the red X's and the grinning face and stuff.

So... Yeah, I'm not a fan. I don't like it. And it feels like if this guy was just doing it as like a... Ah, he's showing up at another, you know, unveiling of a grocery store, or he's, you know, he's in the background of this tennis match kind of thing, showing up on TV. Yeah. That would be one thing. And then, you know, if he's not doing this for a sexual gratification, right, for his own little fetish pleasure kind of thing.

Yeah. And just doing it as a joke, then I'd say, ah, you know, what's the harm? Let him run around in this black body suit. But I think, looking at the picture of the guy without the costume, and then the costume, it's like, oh, yeah, no, nobody wants this guy running around. No, I don't want him anywhere near me. I got freaking me out just looking at him. Yeah, yeah, no, it needs a crusty trail wherever he walks, it feels like. Clamp down on your, on your BS, Somerset, England, what's going on over there?

Get your gimp under control, which is what they're apparently doing. Keep your five years of no gimping is apparently what they've, uh, you don't have to. abstain from Gibbing for five, yes. Set it with a, but a powdered wig, you know. That's right. Yes, exactly.

I love that. There are times I kind of wish we had that tradition here. Oh, sure. I just think it'd be funner. More funner. It'd be more funner. It'd be more funner.

It'd be so much funner. I just think I'd dislike Clarence Thomas a tiny bit less than I do if I saw him in a powdered, powdered wig, a powdered UK a judge barrister not barrister that's the lawyer is it is he are they just called judges in uh barristers are lawyers judges are yeah is they just magistrates or something is it just judges what is the term for uh for is they just called judges um let's see i can't find anything magistrates i guess the barristers did wear

because john cleese wore one of those wigs in fish called wanda yeah that's true he was well he was a he was a barrister for sure lawyer yeah just judges they say okay Just judges. Okay. But under the crown. Oh, a judge under the crown. I'm a judge under the crown. Okay, so magistrate. So what is, this may, you know, take us into, sorry, Wendy, we just don't have time for your territory.

No, I like this. This is a fun type. What is a magistrate? What is a magistrate versus a judge? Yeah. And I guess we could Google it. Hey, everybody, watch us Google on TMS. There's also a magistrate judge.

Yeah, I think which is what I think is what Zoe's grandmother was. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know that about Zoe's grandma. Yeah. That's cool. Did she lay down any hard law? I don't know what you do over there. Why does it feel like you're asking Zoe something very inappropriate?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. This is a day full of dumb scotch. A civil officer or a lay judge who administers the law, especially when it conducts a court that deals with minor offenses and holds preliminary hearings for more serious ones. Okay. So kind of like the judge you get when you did something kind of wrong as opposed to really wrong.

Yeah, like Harry Anderson, a night court versus the upper court that you'd go to next, right? Yeah. So you'd go into night court. Right, right. Exactly. Harry Anderson is the magistrate before you get to Judge Alito, not Judge Alito. Well, Judge Alito, but. sure who is the

some fancier judge Edo was the one in the OJ trial oh Edo right the Asian guy yeah yes yeah there you go we've learned a little something there we have yes so magistrates and judges

and and powdered wigs indeed I had a weird you know what I'm just going to share this real quick I had a weird because while I was looking for this I found a thing that I had a back and forth of the listener on oh good okay all right do I have it in here hold on

Is this it? No. Crap. I got to find it. I replied to him so I know it's in here. Okay, I can't find it. Dang it. I had somebody who went after us for giving John Voight shit on the show.

Oh, no. Let somebody please protect John Voight from this podcast. I think I found it. Here it is. Okay. Of all people, like, hey, you said some, you know, pretty harsh things about Richard Marks the other day, or you said some pretty mean things about Britney Spears, and that I can see you, but, man, leave John Void alone. Yeah, it's a weird, it's a weird flex.

But anyway, this is, okay, I found it. I won't say their name. And this is not me calling them out. I just wanted to share what I replied with, because I think this is something useful here. He says, howdy, always enjoy the show, been listening for quite a while. My only gripe is that you feel you need to insult conservatives. don't know what John Voight did to you calling him and people you don't like stupid only makes you guys sound ignorant and childish keep over all the good work all right so I wrote back and said

I'm insulting John Voit not you not conservatives hell I kind of am one well I'm like what they used to be before a percentage of them lost their minds and sold their souls was that too harsh should I have not you know it was uh it was like one of those handshakes from 80s where the guy shakes the hand and then he slowly starts increasing the pressure until your hero is going oh oh oh okay like you were you're you know you start out really nice and then uh i mean i got more annoyed as i wrote i guess no i'm not calling i'm not calling you stupid and unless you're one of those people that just got stupid yeah if you're i mean if you really are into john voight and his amazing takes i maybe i am i guess i don't know yeah i don't know

John Voight's a psycho, dude. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not a, listen, I don't care, I don't care to listen to what Scott Bayo has to say these days or what, uh, John Voight or, um, who's another one? Uh, and for the record, Schroeder, isn't it, Ricky Schroeder? You guys can call these guys conservatives if you want. They're not, dude. Yeah. These aren't conservatives. No, no.

They're, they're weird. And they're doing weird shit. Yeah. so yeah whatever i mean call what you want do what you want i don't care people can do it i don't even know what uh cori feldman's uh political affiliation is but i'm thinking he's oh yeah he's weird on his own he's steered off the road a little bit yeah saw a really funny video the other day where he was mike checking for uh you know because he performs now it's like a michael jackson thing i drove i had one of his uh i had somebody from the opening act in my lift the other day and he was talking

about how Cory Feldman wouldn't let them come in and set up any of their stuff until he was done with his mic check and he took forever with his mic check which means that the opening band had to set up while people were filing into the

auditorium to see the show. Well whoopty, freaking do for him dude with this fancy needs. He would not let them even bring their equipment into the backstage area while he was doing his mic check and doing sound check. What the heck, man.

Yeah. Well, the video I saw... I'm sorry, so yeah, they told me about... Well, he was doing his mic check and he goes, so he's like, he hadn't gotten to the mic yet. He's over here, like, fiddling with a guitar or with an amp or something. Yeah. And then he turns around and it didn't gauge the right distance between him and the mic

and just smack that mic right in the middle of his eye socket. Just balk! And then just went, ah, like that. And that's the whole video. It's amazing. He wasn't wearing his sunglasses? I thought he always were sunglasses. No, apparently he only needs him when he's actually performing

and trying to look like Michael Jackson Jr. Or whatever it is he does. I am avoiding college, but the boy who cried woofed in the chat says, Scott, yesterday you said you're avoiding politics. Dude, I'm avoiding it like a master. I'm just sharing this interaction. That's all. That's not me getting into politics.

That's sharing an interaction. And I watched about as much of the debate as we could handle last night, which to say was Lester Holt saying, all right, we're about to start the debate. First, let's introduce the candidates. And they all came out. And then he says, all right, well, let's get this shit show started with Ron DeSantis. Here's the thing I would say about the current lineup, or specifically that Vivek guy.

Oh, God. Take politics. I'd say this on Twitter as well. Take politics completely out of it. Just wash it clean of all political anythings. No other issues, just no politics at all. I would not be able to spend five minutes. that guy oh no his personality makes me want to break stuff it drives me when we first when we first

saw him we thought all right you know maybe we're going to have you know kind of a voice of reason among the the madness up there on stage and I think he might be the worst one up there now like I thought he's horrendous and ronda santis were uh were pretty bad they this guy makes him look bad I hate I hate feeling like Chris Christie is the uh the voice the only voice the person closest to a voice of reason up there. Yeah, he's, he's as close as you get to the, to an old conservative anyway, which they just call rhinos and discount. They just like, oh, they're rhinos.

So why they're rhinos. So why I'm out, dude. You guys do you? You have your little friends. He's not saying he watched the debate. I'm saying I watched about five minutes of the debate. Yeah, I didn't watch it. Hell no.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying in general that the vet guy would drive me up a tree. Oh, yeah. I knew people like him growing up. Like, you would spend time in class with a kid like that. And you're like, I don't want to be around that kid. He is really annoying.

Just constantly. He's a little too intense and a little too intense in the wrong direction. Yeah, I just don't like it. Bad, badly focused intense. Just gives me gas. Anyway. So here's another story. Oh, we're back to Florida.

So don't worry, Gimp. Oh, good. Yeah, we're off the Gimp and we're on to the Florida man. he was cited for a booty patrol truck's resemblance to a border patrol vehicle. Yes. Have you seen the photos of this thing? They're amazing. It's pretty awesome. I'm going to share them with the chat here real quick. This is from the UPI. Here it is. Let's give you a shot of this thing. There it is. Well, there's video. I guess I can play the video, but I'm not going to play the audio. Patrol. Whoops, I did. All right.

Don't you want to hear the newscaster say, Booty Patrol? Bouty Patrol. Now the weather. Yeah, so this Florida guy was issued a citation when sheriff's deputy is determined his truck labeled booty patrols too close to resembling a border patrol vehicle. The DeSoto County Sheriff's Office said of the white Chevy Silverado. I used to have one of those. That thing drank so much gas. I'm glad I never.

Really? Oh, my gosh, Brian. We had it when the kids were little, so it was like big and, you know, lots of seats and everything. Sure, sure. But that thing, you could hear it going, lew, down the road, just gulp. the gas. Anyway, which bears a green stripe on the side that says booty control on the back and has been spotted in several counties.

The driver was cited under a law banning vehicles from having red and blue lights too closely resembling that of law enforcement vehicles. Comment underneath the sheriff's office Facebook post included. The truck is a show vehicle and the lights were only ever used in the filming of the music video and not any public roads. Yeah, but you can't go, you're effectively impersonating a thing if you're on the road with it. it doesn't matter whether it was for a video if you're out driving it

yeah exactly if you're right for a show great keep it covered up yeah uh yeah i'm curious so no one's being pulled over i'm sure he's like pulled somebody over to say all right let me see that booty yeah let's look at that booty put your put your hands on the uh hood of your car and show me dead ass it's like that uh it's like when they do strippers in movies they always show up like that and go yeah like mail strippers they're like you're under arrest for being too sexy and then they tear off the stuff right it pulls off the uh so so dumb yeah i love it uh final story actually we may not have time we don't it's time to go we're going to take a break yep sorry

dc firefighter who's stopped at a chick fillet while on an emergency call we'll talk about you on monday we'll just have to wait till tomorrow yeah that's just a taste uh we'll take a break now and come back with my sister she's got one of these here emails from you guys and um i think it's a good one so does she so we're going to talk about it that's coming up after this break from brian and his massive music collection yeah well you've heard me talk about this genre before um that i that i really like called shoegays shoe gaze pop which is uh you know very plinky plunky kind of uh indie pop sound that that i really like um and i think some people also really like it as well and uh it's a band called crystal canyon no they're not uh porn star it's uh crystal canyon

brand new LP that just came out last week called Stars and Distant Light. This is the first song off of the album that's called Sierra. Big thanks, by the way, to The Syndicate for sending this along. I really, really like this album and totally love this song. And, you know, if I'm a shoegazy fan, then I'm a shoegazy fan. Here are Crystal Canyon and Sierra. Shine, you always shiny breath. You've wasted all your time.

star See which was inside Red and blue Smile it trails back to you dreams of love are coming true in the sky

What is cast a perfect spell In your mind I hope to dwell Oh yeah Stombed by the eye It's hard It's your turn to simple face Shine you always

shine You've wasted all your time Come in inside my arms So here I'm inside of my eyes. So here I'm at least sight I'm sorry. This is my mind I bleed in my heart cry.

Sun and in a distant higher Higher in this lover lights bound together in our sights Memories of telling us to save our seals I'm gonna be the same one.

See in the mark with me Drown near sorrows in the sea I'm sitting by the high this one, it's short to disenfranchil signs here might cry

show you always shine well Why didn't you try coming inside my arms now? Seeing it was inside, singing all his nose, Leave in my heart Try Why touch Try

Help me And so I always Now So you're Dwell's in Sames The limit

And cry You go piece in this way You are trying to train You see you'll be spending millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions perhaps for nothing. What's your name? Philips, sir. You're fired. Vomiting abdominal pains and diarrhea. It was hard to tell you. It was hard to tell. which caused the most trouble. And we're back.

Who is that again? Sure. That's a band called Crystal Canyon from their brand new album, which is called Stars and Distant Light. That is a new song called Sierra. Sounds nice. It is.

It's very lovely. Whenever anyone says Sierra, I think of burnt sienna. Is that weird? Yeah. No, I know. It's, you know, being artists and fans of the crayon. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and by and all those.

Some people who try and pronounce it with one syllable cran. Yeah, my daughter says crayon. I don't know. Wendy, do you say crayon? Do you say crayon? I like crayon, because I haven't lived in Utah for long. Yeah, it's a Utah. Is it really Utah thing?

Yeah, or it made me kind of regional. I feel like, you know. it's regional. Like, I, I still have to slowly say mountain. Like, I can do it. Oh, what do you, you do a gap sound for the T? Mountain. Mountain? Oh, Brian, Mr. Brian, you are the one that pointed out how I say, W-A-I-T, and I am obsessed with not saying it wrong. Oh. But I, it's so hard. I'm like, way. That makes two of us, because Brian's the first one pointed out with me as well. Yeah, I think Scott pointed out to somebody point out about Scott first. And then when I I heard you do it, Wendy, then all of a sudden, I was like, oh, boy.

That won't time out here. You do it. Yeah. What's that. What's amazing is Pete cannot stop. That's the exact. That's how he says the word. I think he's probably how he spells it.

And I cannot undo the damage. Well, it's weird because you, that means you did it because he has only, he's only been old enough to live in Sweden and learn to speak at you. I'm the problem. Yeah, well done. Nicely done on that. Oh, I forgot to play this. I'll explain the situation to Wendy.

Don't worry. Okay, now it's official. Wendy's here, everybody. Now it's real. Now Therapy Thursday has been rot real. Yeah, we're super real now, so get ready and hold on to something. Wendy's here. She's my sister, but also a practicing real therapist who does real stuff all the time for real people

and does RealSteps.org as well. There's a lot of real going on. We're being very real today. Not a realness. Yeah. I have heard from a couple of people who are new to your thing this year or to this session who are already raving about. about it. So just so you know, they already, they already love where you're at.

Somebody told me, I won't, I won't use names, but somebody said they had to go buy an actual alarm clock. And that's all I'll say. Do you know what that's about? You probably do. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Baby, we're going to save their lives. I'm going to quote someone. Someone in the, in the Real Steps chat, we have a Discord channel. I'm going to quote, drink normally just has tea in the morning, soda at lunch, and milk or water at dinner, while cleaning up after dinner, I stopped and realized I didn't drink a soda today and didn't even notice, what is this witchcraft? It is witchcraft. I have one here right now.

I need to talk to you. All right. Well, we're going to get to our thing. So this is kind of a follow-up in a way. Yeah. Sort of connected to what we've been talking about recently. I'll go ahead and just read through it. But this is from an anonymous listener who wrote in and said this.

Maybe this can be a topic for an upcoming therapy Thursday. It's somewhat related to the moral injury talk, which I. got a lot of good out of. I consider myself a pretty sensible person who thinks of the immediate community around them and who tries to be good, respectful, and friendly to all regardless of any other factor. I let the person merge in front of me on the freeway.

Boy, this is a person my wife should know, get to know. She gets so road-ragy about people off. Does she really? Oh, no, okay. When people are bad drivers, she just, it's a whole different Kim. No one sees this but me. Anyway, I happily ignore people in public being rude or pushy because I'd rather just we move on with our day instead of cause a ruckus. I'm definitely an empathetic person because I can't stand to see and read the news because of the horrors of life are actually what got me into the darkest of mental states resulting in medical and therapy or medication and therapy.

But it seems that every day more and more people are the opposite of what I am. people actively choosing to be hostile and aggressive, almost as if they enjoy misery rather than peace. A perfect example is right now I am working on a large Halloween haunt as a monster. So this is obviously an older email. And the amounts of guests who come in to be rude, mean, and assault those dressed in costumes is overwhelming. I fear for any woman in costume because the men see them as an easy target for assault. And of course, due to corporate BS, we are at risk of being. fired if we fight back. We've always

had A-holes in the world, and I'm sure it's been a glaring result of the pandemic and political landscape over the last few years. But my question is, what do we do to reverse this on a smaller more personal scale and on the larger one as well? Thanks. Here, here, dude. This is

a dude after my own heart. A dude. Well, I think it's a lady, but yeah, a person after our own heart. I don't know. I call my wife dude, so what does it matter? Everyone's a dude. Wendy, you're a dude. Yeah, yeah, I just... It's gender neutral. Yeah, I feel like it.

But I think he's saying he's a dude because he's saying he fears for any woman in costume. Oh, I thought they were saying me or any. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. They don't really say is the point. And I think you're right. Like he says, well, this person says that a lot of people come in to be rude, me and assault those dressed in costumes. And he says, or they say they fear for any woman in costume because they see him as an easy target of assault.

So I'm like, oh, yeah. Might be a dude. Yeah. Might be a dude. but all right, so we'll say, uh, uh, friend. Yes. Thank you, friend. Thank you, friend.

You're a person after my own heart friend. That's right. You're a friend of the show and you're a friend of ours. Way to go. Um, so Wendy, where, 15 minutes grappling with gender. What, uh, welcome, welcome to 2023. Yeah.

I know. Good. I'm gonna, I want to, I want to say a thing about this real quick that just, just, just jumped out of me. Um, yeah. The whole part about where is it, uh, the, uh, okay, here it is. I can't stand to see and read the news because of the horrors of life. That bit there makes me wonder if we've got somebody who's seeing, not seeing more than there is.

How do I put this? If you watch the news every day and you're really soaked up in it, you'll think that there's no such thing as anything but bad news because that's all they show because that's what sells and that's all there is. and and I and I and I so I say that this isn't me trying to call them out or anything obviously sure I hope but I'm just saying like is that a is that a sign of of where some of this anxiety comes from I know it can do for me like when I'm when I'm way too informed about all the negatives in the world I tend to see the world from a negative's perspective and if I back off from that and I see less of it and not so much like bury your head in the sand but you know it's less impactful when you're not watching so I watch I watch news. T and I watch the news every night. We watch obviously Lester Holt, who I apparently adore because I can't stop talking about him. You love Lester. You and Lester Holt may as well just a lope at this

point. Meanwhile, I think Wendy's juggling pots and pans over there working on her, so you think you've got talent audition. Whoa, what is that? Is that, what is that? What is that? Are you operating a Zamboni or something right now? Okay, why? How can you hear that so well? I'm just lowering my standing desk. Oh, you're probably, because your computer's just getting fired by it. Yeah.

I was whole weird. Okay. Good to know. It's too loud. I think you're using. I think you're using a microphone that is different from the microphone you think you're using. Oh, yeah. Tap on the mic.

Oh, I am. Yeah. You're right. It's not connected to. You're using the microphone that's built into your standing desk. I am not. No way. Okay.

Sorry about that. It sounded like a food disposal. No, I watch, the team and I watch the news every day. And our experience with that is, at least what we watch, you know, Lester Holtz, he's talking about this stuff with Hamas. He's talking about the stuff with the actor's strike. He's talking about the stuff going on, you know, basically the debates and things like that. But I feel like there's still enough, at least in what we watch, positivity that it doesn't feel like it's all doom and gloom. I don't feel like, well, I mean, there are times.

I feel like the world is really heading towards getting sucked into a real-life shithole. But for the most part, I feel like there is still some positivity around. And it's not that hard to look for it, not that hard to find it. But I've never felt like this overwhelming sense of dread just from watching the news. That might come from something else. Yeah. And obviously you're not doing like 24-hour news. right like no no no no yeah no we're watching yeah and we're watching you know local news

certainly sprinkles in the uh and now here's a story about a squirrel riding a moped yeah you know you get that sort of thing you get the fun little local like flavor stories and all that kind of stuff yeah yeah exactly because i i was oh i have this theory that if everything was bad news like some people think it is and that everything's going uh into a shithole as you said uh that we would be already because I think the large we've talked about this before on other different levels but the large percentage of things every day are normal and average and just happening and good and neutral if it was if it was predominantly negative in every single person's life all the time I don't I'm even sure we'd be here like we'd be we'd have destroyed ourselves by now yeah for sure

So I just think it's just a, it's a weird mirror to look into, especially 24-hour news networks. If people are watching Fox or CNN or anything in between all the time and that's where they're getting their info, those networks are motivated 100% 24 hours a day to push stuff that enrages, freaks you out, makes you concerned, makes you paranoid. I really think that's a problem. It's bad. Now, I'm not saying that that's 100% this issue at all, but it's an interesting offshoot from the conversation. Anyway, Wendy, so let's take it wherever you want to take it, though, now that we've taken a ride.

Now that we've heard off from one sentence from this person's, from our friend's email here. That was very funny to watch. It's great. That was great. It's funny because this person says, I'm definitely empathetic because I can't stand to see and read the news. Oh.

Yeah, that's true. I guess I read that wrong. No kidding. Actually, yeah, I kind of read into that. It's all good. I like your theory. It was great. But I'm actually going to, I'm going to steer it with that concept of the person knows

their empathetic feels a lot of feelings, right? And so this feeling of like people are being particularly mean, they're going to maybe be more sensitive to some of that than someone else who just doesn't pick up vibes very easily, right? I think the other thing, too, is like a couple things did happen pandemic-wise that, I mean, Facebook's been doing this for years, guys. Let's all just be honest of sort of pitting you against each other in certain ways. But I think the pandemic had a very physical manifestation of which team you were on if you're wearing a mask or not, or if you were fighting this or that. Or, you know, like, it just became a little more, the differences became a little more public,

a little more heated. People were scared. and behaving in certain ways that maybe, you know, and then treating, we have a new term for the person selling you coffee, you know, they're the essential worker. They are the front line of a pandemic, right? And so I think behavior, we all collectively became more sensitive to behavior in retail that maybe was always bad, but it kind of has turned towards other people as well, right?

I mean, we have the video of Kevin and Costco or whatever. And so I think the awareness is kind of the thing. We've talked about this before. Like you get a new car and then everyone's driving that car and you're like, whoa, it didn't notice before. I think everyone's collective sensitivity went up a little bit. And also, bad behavior went up. I mean, I live in a state where there is hard data to show people drive worse than they did

before the pandemic. They drive faster. They drive more recklessly or whatever, right? And so there is kind of a weird thing that maybe has occurred. It's not as all dim and glum as maybe you would think. But this person is feeling it. So let's start with that. And this is a really key sentence.

I consider myself a pretty sensible person. So everyone considers themselves a sensible person. I'm not sure if everyone's aware of this. Most people, unless there really has great. You know, I really consider myself to be a really bipolar. I'm sensible. I don't ever know what's going on. Yeah, 100%. Most people think that.

And most people, if you ask them, think they care about the community around them and that they're good and respectful and friendly. Right. I can almost guarantee, unless they have some decent central awareness and they are just jerks and they know it, most people would consider themselves that. So let's try to figure out what is actually maybe happening. Like, what is happening? If everyone thinks they're decent, kind people, you know who is the nicest person I know is Kim. But behind the wheel is Kim, a sensible, lovely, kind, generous person? I mean, she's often correct about why she's mad behind the wheel.

Like she's correct that the guy cut her off. She's correct that the guy's tailgating her. She's correct usually about the reason. But unlike if we're in the mall and somebody cut in front of her, she would be like, oh, I'm so sorry. I hope I didn't get in the way. She'd be a very different. In the car, she's like, oh.

a freaking a hole is she all right what is she is she a uh uh so tailgator behind her is she a slowdown is she a um mostly none of that so she won't do anything to put anyone at risk or cause an altercation what she all she does is just turn into someone who says stuff so she'll start going oh yeah yeah you're good okay yes i'm that too right like this guy is hugging my she'll and it's the only time you'll ever hear kim swear this guy's hugging my ass right now and i'm about ready to explode and i'm like, honey, it's fine. He'll go around. Just give him a second. Yeah, but he's been brim-jig-or-gab-gab-it. And like, she just really gets up, fired up about it.

Yeah, my buddy, Chris Brown. So I, like I said, I always, I feel like I'm a pretty considerate driver as well. If somebody pulled, you know, flicks their turn signal on and there's room, I'll totally let them merge. If someone tailgates me, I just kind of roll my eyes and them to say, you know, if I get out of the way, you're just going to do the same thing to the person that's three feet in front of me or one car length in of me or whatever it is. Right, right. But I will call them out, and Chris Brown was in the car with me, and he, he's,

Tina's used to this, she just kind of laughs it off. Chris Brown was like, Brian, calm down. It's okay, Brian. And Chris Brown is usually the person that I look at that, like, you know, can fly off the handle, or not fly off the handle, but get very sarcastic and, uh, biting wit. And so hearing him, maybe, maybe, this is probably something good for Wendy to here, like hearing somebody who's not used to the way I act in the car say, dude, calm down, chill out.

You know, maybe that's saying something. Yeah. Well, it's also showing like you can be a different character at different times. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so maybe, I mean, people in a haunted house are behaving in particular ways that, I mean, I worked in a haunted house once. No one behaved well in a haunted house that I noticed.

Really? Because they're scared or they're peeing their pants in the corners, they're freaking out. Or they're aggressive, like someone's coming at them and they get aggressive back. Everyone is responding to fear, though it's made up fear, in their own kind of way. Now, you may find, and I think sometimes it's just sheer numbers, people go, there's more people coming through that haunted house than there would have been 20 years ago. And so maybe behavior shifts because of just population growth and demand for certain services. Like you go to a crowded restaurant. and how does someone treat a wait staff when it's not crowded, maybe they're a little different, right?

There's a lot of factors or make a room hot. You get people to behave pretty badly, right? Like there's a lot of factors that go into the place, go into this. But I want to say something about what might be actually happening to a person who says things like our email or like, I am an empathicic person. I happily ignore people who are rude in public. Or like, I am a good guy. I'm doing all the right things. And then the question is, if everyone kind of thinks that's what they're doing, they might also say, well, I have boundaries, right? They might describe it differently. Like, I won't let someone maltreat someone else or I'm going to, they're going to describe themselves usually as a good guy. And then, but then who's doing all the bad behavior?

Right. Somebody has to be doing it. Yeah, we can't, we can all be the sensible people that are not being. So I'm not accusing this email of not being sensitive and being a good person. They probably are, right? But I'm going to describe. So we can all be our different selves in different circumstances. So there's that piece. But then there's also, I think we talked about this, oh, I don't know, five years ago. Probably it's been a hot minute where we talked about moral licensing. Do you guys remember that? I do remember that.

That is? Okay. The moral licensing or self licensing is kind of, is this idea that it gives you license to do something bad because you just did something good or you've done something good recently or you identify yourself as good. So, let's see, an example might be purchasing a, like a green product, like, look at me. And then that increases your likelihood of purchasing something that was probably made by small children in Malaysia. And it's a luxury item and you're ridiculous, right? So it's giving, so you can have like a sort of simple version of that, but I was thinking as I read this email, like, oh, maybe some of the bad behavior is actually moral licensing. like on acid.

So for example, let's take pandemic era behavior, right? What was going on for Kevin and Costco? How did Kevin have the moral licensing or self licensing maybe

of I am in the right here. I mean, who knows? Maybe he later left himself. Kevin from Costco is the one who like refused to wear a mask. That's that guy, right? Yeah. And like was belligerent.

I don't actually. He was, I mean, there were a bunch of those, but he was kind of. kind of like, he was ground zero, patient zero of that. The poster child for bad, bad Costco behavior. Exactly, exactly. Okay, so you can take this situation.

You've got a global pandemic. Everyone is acting in a way you think is ridiculous. And you don't want your personal freedom on your face or whatever your story is. It's really strong and you are feeling affronted. So you are thinking, no, we're going to spread the germ around so people can immunity. I'm the good guy. And then you go into a situation where you're not allowed to do the thing you think is like whatever you have believed or has been fed to you then turns into I am right. My actions are justified. So now we're in a now we're taking individual people's

ability to manage anger, strong feelings, and we're putting them in at cost. You know? So it's like it's everyone is different at this, right? Like think of your tendencies that you're not proud of. And now imagine someone pouring gas on all the circumstances that make that tendency really show up. Right. So I feel like I'm a good person. I've done good things. And so I'm going to do a thing and still feel like I'm justified or it's rationalized. Does that make sense? So it's a little different than like buying something. But it is a bit of my good personness and doing the right thing is justifying these actions when what we may be really getting down to

is how people respond in certain environments, right? And so, yeah, we can think everyone else is rude and not see ourselves correctly. So I forget what that's called, focal point bias or something where we really can just only see our side of the story. And so everyone else coming in, doing behaving certain ways, is terrible, right?

So there's that. There's maybe that on an individual level. We can kind of see maybe how people can justify their behavior and do things because they think they're good and they actually have a right to do naughty things because they do good things. But then there's also kind of maybe a bigger picture thing here, which comes down to my favorite therapeutic thing to work on with people because it is so powerful and damaging. But it has a side to it that I kind of miss. and that is shame, right? Like, shame is the thing that keeps people so stuck in behaviors and shame avoidance, shame minimization.

We will do lots of things to not feel that. And so we added this layer of public shaming, I think, culturally, when the internet became a little bigger, right? Like, just this, we can demolish someone or, you know, anyone's thoughts, we will flip them or people's mistakes or you know I think often about that kid who was wielding the the laser

saber light saber oh the video the lightsaber kit what was his name I can't remember his name now yeah whatever was because he has a real name

and a real life but like the way he struggled because of that was like immense and that's because it created so much shame it wasn't in his control right all of those different things right

but you flip that to the no shame problem, right, where I'm going to say whatever I want to say. I can publicly slander, you know, just like the absolute a whole thing that people do. You can think of a couple examples. What's the first thing you think of, like, a person without shame behaving in public life? I mean, it's easy to just say the whole Karen Kevin thing because it's, there was so much of it, right? So many Karen, so many Kevin's. And we all just named them that, you know.

Right. So they were these faceless people that kind of had a common haircut. They often seemed to be white. Like we have all these things that we amalgamated about them and then called them one single name. We made it real simple. We've redacted them down to reduce them down to one nickname Barbecue Karen or bottled water Karen or Starbucks Karen. But like anybody who does, the problem is some people who do this sort of thing because it makes them money and then there are people who do it because they just got caught on camera having a

moment right so i'm having a hard time thinking of anything like what which which one's more well the more devious one are people to do it on purpose and know they're doing it and have a big money trail as to why they do it so if you if you make your if you make your living being a jerk on youtube because you do random pranks on strangers at walmart for for for clicks that's that's a different category of jerk than somebody who happened to be at a Walmart and made a scene in the moment

but otherwise we've never heard of them and they didn't, you know, they don't make money from that. So I don't know. That's a hard question. I don't know how to answer it. Right. And everyone has different dispositions too, right? Like sometimes people are more naturally more like, oh, let's settle down, peace. You know, they want to avoid the conflict. Others may you know, that's just their style is to be louder or brasher or whatever.

And then you've got like how that all works in the public square is wild. And then, you know, the internet is a whole other version of the public square that just does its thing. I often think of, and I'm going to say this as politically neutral as I can, but Donald Trump has invited something into the political discourse that I think has, is there, sort of secretly, right? But he's just, it's very open, which is he doesn't feel, he feels shame about his height and his hands and other things, but he does not feel shame about breaking social norms of like decorum or that type of thing.

And I think the starkest reality of what he did and then you give him a Twitter handle was that bullying or behaving in those particular ways and having, there's no recourse if the person doesn't think it's wrong and there is no sort of I would say structures were so many structures or many institutions have been built on shame being a part of the equation right like think of Nixon Nixon chose to resign after lots of people told him he ought to but that that's if he had no shame I was just like whatever that he would you know at that time I don't think that was a publicly viable option yeah and I think Trump broke the glass ceiling on that. You can say, you can say a lot about Nixon, but he was

weirdly through all of it, kind of a statesman to the end. And I don't mean that in some vaulted way. I just mean he was, you know, he did the, he did the thing that anybody would do, which is, yeah, this is, this is all too much. The evidence has gotten too much. Do I want to sit through impeachment or should I, should I resign? And he doesn't mean any resign. And you can never imagine Trump doing that. Trump can't even keep a gag order from. from stopping him. Exactly. What's the best for the country is like maybe code for also like do you have some shame? Can we stock now? You know, like, or I need to spend more time with my family. Like that's code for, oh, you've, you've broken the norms, right? Like, you think at one point having a president of the United States have, you know, Clinton was a great example of like we were freaking out about. his sexual stuff and you know the president of france for all of eternity has a mistress that we all talk about and know about right like it's a cultural difference right um but there's a you know the

the the public agreement that has has shifted and i do think um you know there's just a crassness that is like more allowable and i it's as if the loud parts get spoken or the quiet parts are spoken out loud and you can say oh is this good for us to just have less collective shame or is there just as a species you've got to have a couple things in place that we all agree on so that we don't um and and i do think that has shifted a little in in sort of public sphere right like people maybe talk a little differently and behave in different ways in fact i saw this amazing clip that of like a town hall meeting and it i swear i was watching um parks and rec like i'm watching is this real is this is just real right and and maybe it's always been a little real right it's just

maybe we are aware of it's getting filmed and that's that's the tricky part so then we all get in this like despair mode of like everyone's more awful and then we can isolate from people or not work something through or stay over here and be a good guy when really, you know, sometimes it's just you've never learned how to deal with conflict and conflict avoidant or, you know, whatever it might be. And so the answer is not be a bad guy or despair and hide in your closet. It's a lot more of, you know, maybe stats are helpful. Sometimes I find stats helpful and I was, I forgot, I don't know, maybe someone could look it up, but like, is it actually happening more? I do know bad driving in Minnesota is definitely up. but where are we seeing this as it as it is bad as we think it is and because if it's all

you think is happening you're going to just keep seeing it and looking for it yeah i was i was trying to i had this funny i had this conversation with my kids the other day a couple of them we're having an argument because i was showing them statistics from 1990 until today and violent crime is down overall yeah and has been trending down for a very long time and you have blips and beeps and dips and peaks and stuff, but it's for the most part, it's a downward thing. It's also worldwide, not just the states, but the stats I was looking at were from the states. And these are actual statistics. They're not, you know, some biased thing.

It's just actual stats. Here are the raw numbers. They really had our time reconciling that because, you know, in their minds, things are much, at any moment you're going to get shot. At any moment, you're going to get mugged. At any moment, you're going to get whatever. And I was trying to say, I understand being careful. I also understand that we live in a time where you're being blasted with information all the time.

But I think it helps sometimes to fall back on numbers and just look at the raw data. If you have it to look at and just see what is actually going on versus what you think is going on or just at least challenge your own perceptions a little bit no matter where they are. Even if they're too polyanish about where we are, you're going to find people who are way too. way too positive during a negative and yet that seems discordant as well so sure i just think there's a there's an opportunity when when numbers are available like yours in minnesota and these for what my argument it's a fun it's not fun but it's a great way to look at it and go uh i see the math sometimes the math is the math is different than what i'm seeing and and it will help you i think it helped me yeah and i you're answering his final question which was what do we do to reverse this

Yeah. And you're exactly right. What you're doing is shifting perception to more of grounded in reality, right? So that's helpful. Also, just think about this for a moment. If you go in this, I'm going to give everyone this assignment. But if you go into a situation already ready for someone to be a jerk, you're just more likely to find it than you are if you are going in with a different expectation.

Now, that's why it's so shocking when you're in some kind of rejuvant. experience and someone is losing their mind and you're just like, what? Because that is not what you expect to going in there, right? And then the more sort of protected you act, and I mean, I could take this all into individual psychology on another day, but like the more protected you are acting, the more weary you are of everyone's nuts and crazy. And like, you're just going to keep seeing it when it may not fully be there or overreacting or being proven right or whatever it might be, because you are just trying to protect yourself, right? You're scared. But if you back it up to where is your information coming from, is it fact? Is it fiction? Is it someone flaming fiction?

Which I think is a real thing where they get you terrified. I mean, I don't know, if I came in your house and I started screaming fire, what are you going to do? You're going to respond. Your body's going to go, what? And you're going to be ready. Now, if I'm telling you, you, you cannot go to the grocery store because, oh, the perfect one is Halloween candy with razor blades in it, right? You're going to act really different. And the truth is, there were never razor blades in candy or whatever. And the truth is at candy is so expensive now.

No, no, it's going to take the time to put razor blades in. Oh, no, it's like the fentanyl thing. It's like, oh, they're going to lace your candy with fentanyl. No, fentanyl is the business. If they sell fentanyl, they're not giving it away on Halloween. That's not how it works. It's a business. Just to scare you.

Right. Yeah. No. But we have a need to assuage food. fear and when fear is presented in any way, we're going to do it in certain ways, right? And so think of it as priming. You are being primed to see something bad. And then when you do see something bad, you are, you're escalated already, right? There isn't sort of the ramp up time. And that's kind of what I think about sometimes with different folks. If your ramp is one inch because you're

walking around mad, like, okay. And so you may, like if I would say there's a global bigger thing happening is people feeling destabilized, people having such constant flow of negative information, doom scrolling being a good example of you're just ingesting over and over that it's all a bad thing and all a bad place, right? And it doesn't mean we don't have problems. It's just, it's really hard to tackle actual problems if you're fighting, you know, sort of riled up versions of problems. Anyway, but if you're primed already and then you're exploding at the gas station,

attendant, clearly your ramp, you've got something else that leads up to that. So is there more people in that position? And the answer might be, yeah, maybe. Maybe that's really what we're seeing. People feel less secure. There's a safety net things. I just saw the worst thing the other day as some girl took her, some 26-year-old took her friend to a concert so she could get help in the medical tent because she can't afford the medical care. Oh, no, really? Oh, God. So just went to the concert just for the medical care. Yeah, and for the medical care because it's cheaper. And you're like, okay, okay, that will destabilize a whole community who thinks, okay, well, I don't have access to health care. How do I, you know, like you just hear those stories and

it builds up the thing and you're like, I mean, I go into my doctor stuff and just be like, are you guys ready to just rob me blind? And they're like, what? I mean, I have insurance, but you wouldn't think the way I feel because I clearly pay a little too much attention to that because I've had some hard things happen. So I'm already prepped for medical to screw me. me over, right? And so you can just, if everyone could take a step back and have some honesty with themselves, like, what are the things that are already getting you wild up so you only have an inch to give? And maybe we ought to work on some of that, right? And then if you're perceiving everything is that, and then I get to look at your podcast list, and it's full of murder and rape

and pillaging, well, okay, maybe you're prepped, you're primed, right? So this would be a fun experiment if people are willing to try it. Prime yourself for one or the other this week. Just plan a date, plan a time to go into the public square and interact with people and prime yourself. You can do, this is obviously a really rigorous study. You can either pay attention to like, okay, let's come up with two things to consume. So find a good news. I think it's a good news network on Instagram and Facebook and then there's another one good news anyway but you just read about some cool things somebody did right find your hero read about something amazing that was created or built or something right that john krasinski podcast or the youtube show that he was doing

for a while that was good i like that yeah find something like that and just consume it okay and and have it be a decent 15 20 minutes worth of consuming and then go drive and or go into a store and or interact in the public right just prime yourself and kind of see what happens to you in some of those interactions now do the opposite i want you to listen to the scariest murder mystery pockets or the or watch a bunch of people fighting in their street watch a protest that's gone really bad whatever just like prime yourself or people are terrible and they are they don't have my best interest at heart and I got to protect myself

and then go do the same thing and you will have maybe different experiences. I don't know. I haven't done this. I just know personally I can make this fluctuate pretty easily with what I'm paying attention to. And, you know, Thanksgiving's coming up, folks.

You're going to have conversations maybe with people who you don't see eye to eye with about certain topics. You can use this little trick and prime yourself for compassion or prime yourself for neutrality or non-engagement if that needs to be the thing. Or my favorite phrase I heard recently was to say, oh, that's funny. You would think I would want to talk about that. Or they bring up something crazy and you just go,

oh, that's interesting that you would choose this location for this kind of conversation. You know, you just kind of flip it back with like questioning your judgment to have this with me right now. But just sort of like, how would you handle it? that versus, all right, I'm watching Fox News all morning and I'm ready to fist fight my brother-in-law as soon as we sit down at the table, right? Like, try it. Prime yourself slightly differently and see how what happens. I like it.

I like that a lot. This is great. This is one, you know what? Sometimes you guys will feed off a topic and then you'll send us a thing that's just sort of connected. This is a great one for that. So feel free to, you know, to branch out from stuff we cover and send emails like this because I think this is a great one.

um this is good wendy are you uh so so it's going good real steps dot org nobody can sign up yeah that's great we got there we're done for this round so you just have to be sad you just have to sit there and groove on it yep just grieve it uh no yeah we'll we'll more information will come about other things but yeah this round is started and fantastic people are loving it yeah so we are happy to have them they're so cool everyone's so great they are great go talk talk about like um weeding yourself out or also perception right like maybe these guys are really bad but truthfully like just the kindest coolest people and i always come back to this started tying this back to the email is like if i focus on what amazing things people are doing because there are endless amazing things people are doing yeah and just simple kindnesses that are happening if you just pay attention to it it will it will shift what you think of a person as yeah i love this phrase and i use this with parents all the time that you have a good kid having a hard time

when and that is every human being they are basically at their core good having a hard time and they may have been having a hard time for so long it feels really hard to see that good part yeah but you'd be amazed if you just kind of put that on your t-shirt and live that a little bit and just think oh I'm gonna I'm gonna do that I'm gonna a shirt that says I am a kid having a hard time

just a kid having a hard time Well, have a fantastic week, and may all your Peters say waint. We'll see you next time. Bye now. All right. Well done. Good stuff today. Yeah.

I like that. Brian, we got to go. But before we do, Jeff Sire wrote in, said this. Scott and Brian, how do you pronounce pedant or pedant? I assume those are the two choices. Padant? I've never heard the root of pedant.

Uh, said on its own. I think obviously the joke is we're pedantic coming from the guy who has sent me, sent us 13 emails, uh, since September 1st to, to correct stuff that we've said on the show or address, you know, um, yeah, I might pronounce it, sire. Sire, yeah. That's how I might pronounce that word. Sire dantic is what I say. Uh, no, we love, we love, we love it's random messages and emails, but. But boy, that guy, I think it's his hobby. He's like, he's listening.

We say something dumb, and he's like, I'm firing one off. Here it comes. Exactly. So, Zoe says it's pronounced pedant, even emphasis on both syllables. Okay. So pedant, pedant, pedant, or pedant. Pedant. So pedantic.

Pedant, not pedant. Pedantic, you obviously put the emphasis on the middle syllable, but we're doing exactly what he doesn't want us to do. Well, hold on. Let's talk about pedantic. Let's do pedantic for the next half hour so we can get three more emails out of Jeff. That'd be great.

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You also get pre-show content every day. day. Lots of other cool stuff, including art I just sent to the printer to have sent to you. Yeah, cool. We got those pins coming at some point. They're not pins, the magnets, right? Oh, I was excited. We had pins. Yes, the magnets are coming. I've had nothing but it's like, oh, cool, we have pins coming. No, you're talking about the thing I'm doing right here. Yeah, look at those. Cool. Yeah, I've actually got paid projects going through the printer right now. Somebody needed

43 miniatures. Great, easy to print, easy to clean up. I'm not sure how the heck I'm going to ship 43 miniatures without little tiny swords or little tiny daggers or things like that breaking off. So I've really got to figure out the best way to ship these. Oh, that's a really good point. Like, what are you going to do? Yeah, everything else about is really easy.

Like loading up the printer and cleaning things and making sure they look good and they printed fine. But it's like, oh, no, I've got to. a bunch of uh because you don't want to cure those with the the supports on them you want to take the supports off before you you cure them with the ultraviolet light right and uh that makes them hard and that makes them a little bit more brittle yeah i don't know because someone's holding out a sword like this that's a little skinny arm with a little skinny sword exactly exactly so i've just basically got to really figure out some clever padding to make these things not hit each other or hit the sides of the box or anything like that it's going to be

It's going to be some work. It does sound like work. That'll be fun, though. Let me ask you this, though. So this is going to get Jeff all fired up, but do you say pins or pens when you talk about like push pins or a pin you would wear? Like a thumbtack pin. You would say pin, right? I say pin also.

If I'm bowling, I'm trying to hit the pins. I'm not trying to hit the pens. Yeah, I never say pens. Who says pens? I'm not drinking, I'm not drinking milk. I'm drinking, you know, I'm a, you know, I'm a. I'm not, uh, this is my leg, not my leg, my league. My leg, yeah, there's a one that people say.

Yeah. My dad said crick instead of creak. Yeah. That was a fun one. Warsh, I'm sure. Warsh was a good one growing up. Tina's, Tina's mom says Warsh. That's awesome.

Never change mom. Tina's mom. Uh, well, that's it for today's show. We're going to get out of here now. We got music, a request probably of some sort. Yeah, we do. This one's going out to Zach Poinger, uh, who says, Hey Speedo and Banana Ham. Look at that, two words for the same thing with S&B.

On November 9th, I will be turning 44, so I'm requesting a cover. Growing up when riding in the car with my father, he liked country and I liked rock, we compromised with oldies. My favorite was The Lion Sleeps Tonight by the Token. So if you have a modern cover of that song or a cover song of a Pearl Jam song, which might be considered an oldie nowadays, would be an awesome present for this guy. Can I get a cool sound effect or two about Jackie? chan or something funny of your choosing jacky chan um oh man uh hold on i have

do i have any jackies um searching here okay here's here's a here's a holy crap i know we've recorded him doing something oh uh what's that one we love um super cop uh no where he goes uh uh it's a a tuxedo, the spy next door. It's where he says, no, the thing he says, he says, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's something with the fruit or something. What does he say? Oh, shit.

Hold on. Yeah, no, he says Peter Piper picked a... Oh, Peter Piper played a flute or something like that. Yeah, something like that, exactly. Okay, hold on, let's find it. Yeah, that should be the thing that helps you find it. Oh, I found it. Here we go. Enjoy. Here's a Peter Piper playing the flute.

There you go. There we go. There's your Jackie Chan, Zach. He says, by the way, I saw carbonated, marinated meat on a Google search. Is that what y'all are talking about, Scott? No, that's where you do the soda thing. That's Dr. Pepper Chicken.

That's an old thing. No, but I appreciate everyone hunting it down. It's not that, though. So everyone just know that. We have, that one's put to bed. We know it's not marinating in Dr. Pepper. It's something else. Yes.

All right. So, let's get to this. So the lion sleeps tonight. We all know the tokens cover, you know, here in Timoan and Pumba cover that one for the Lion King. We're not going to get, we're not going to go down that rabbit hole, of course, again. But what you don't know is that that all comes from something way, way, way, way older. The Weimoe song really came from an old African chant called Mbube.

M-B-U-B-E. I'm sorry, M-B-U-B-E. Yeah, exactly. And Weim-A-way started out as M-B-B-B-B-B-A. the sound. And before it was The Lion Sleeps Tonight, it was a song by kind of the earliest you can find that goes back is Solomon Linda was the original writer and performer of this. Here is a version that goes back to those roots of the song, performed by

Lady Smith Black Mambazo, who we loved as part of the Paul Simon album, Graceland. So this is the original covered by them more in the spirit of the original than the tokens line sleeps tonight, if that helps. It's Mboube or Wimaway, performed by Lady Smith Black Mambazo. Here it is. We'll be back Monday, plus a bunch of other stuff this week. We got Cor and Film Sack and Coverville today. Guess the connection tomorrow. Just a load of content, man.

So, yeah. Gear up, everyone. We'll see you on Monday. A family live close to the jungle. At the end of the day, they all sit together around the fire. They have their supper, then relax and talk a little. The youngest boy becomes afraid. He hears all the sounds of the wild animals in the forest, cheetahs. wolves

jackals and lions he starts crying at the darkness and wild sounds and fill him with fear then his mother takes him in her arms and sings to him the family is always strong together

they protect one another grandparents his father and mother uncles aunts cousins brothers and sisters they all join and sing together. Soon he falls asleep.

Only the beautiful song fills his ears. In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight. In the jungle, in the lion sleeps tonight. In the jungle, the lion sleeps tonight. The mighty jungle, the lion's leaves tonight. Hush, my baby, don't feel my darling, the lion's leaves tonight. Hush, my baby, don't fear my darling, the lion's leaves tonight. I'm going to be ma'am for you.

I know what I'm saying? I'm not saying, you know, I'm going to be around for you, you know, God, the mind, you know,

I'm going to love, you know, you'll have me, you know, The lion's, my girl, my darling, your mother, and the lion's to mind.

Oh my baby, don't hear my darling, the lion's least to mind. Hush, my baby, don't feel my darling, the lion's leaf to mind. In a moment, emmohet, emolvent, emolvent, emolvent, bavent, bavent, bavent.