The Morning Stream - TMS 2555: The Wrong Whopper

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

The B-52 Ladies. There are always two Twix, a master, and an apprentice. (V) I'm fed up with the emma effing Clares on this emma effing Plane. Headwound Harry. Don't Dead. A cat named Judah. $20 buys ...you 5 acres and a horse. Guns And Potatoes In Idaho. The Poop & Pee Preshow. Overnight Hump & Dump. Burger King Fries. y'know For Dogs. Impossible to Save Cows. DTK: Down To KitKat. In Brussels they're just called Sprouts... With Tom! SchittOutOfPotential.com with Scott, Brian, Randy...AND A CAVEMAN and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TMS is brought to you daily by the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS, like Wizuma, Gore Deep, and Wolf the Martian diplomat. Great selection today. Coming up on TMS, the B-52 ladies. There are always two twigs, a master and an apprentice. I'm fed up with these mother-effin' clairs on this mother-effin' plane. Head wound, Harry. Don't dead.
Starting point is 00:00:23 A cat named Judah. $20 buys you five acres on a horse. Guns and potatoes in Idaho. The poop and. P. Pre-show. Overnodhump and dump. Burger King fries. You know, for dogs.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Impossible to save cows. D.D.K. Down to Kit Kat. In Brussels, they're just called sprouts with Tom. Shit out of Potential.com with Scott, Brian, Randy, and a caveman on this episode of the Morning Stream. Hey, this is Dan Foley from Survivor
Starting point is 00:00:50 Worlds Apart, and you're listening to the Morning Stream with Brian and Scott. Is that it? Is that what I'm supposed to say? How much am I getting paid for this? These guys suck. bureaucratic bullshit The morning The Beast with a millionized Why just last week I had my entire car millionized
Starting point is 00:01:18 And it smells great Hello everybody Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, November 15, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Abbott. Hi. Hello, Scott Johnson. How are you? Good. Good. I'm all right. It's a Wednesday. If you're a patron, you know all about why my morning was weird with dog poop and Brian's with cat pee. And, you know, just another reason to subscribe to the show if you haven't done it already. Maybe this isn't the day to entice them to become patrons to listen to the poop and pee. Pre-show. Yeah. The poop and pipi show.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I realize they don't sound like benefits, but... No, but at least, you know, if we sound a little salty, you know why. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I'm still irritated. But whatever, the things in the washer, it's being cleaned, the carpet's fine, and the dog is outside, doing whatever you do when a dog eats French fries. All right, go out there, get it done. She got into some fries.
Starting point is 00:02:21 She wasn't supposed to, which literally means she got up on the table, which she knows she's not allowed to do. So how tempting must be Burger King branded fries for dogs. There must be some chemical in there. I don't know. Anyway, may she live long and prosper. Let's move on. I found something that I just have to play because even though it's a little fearmongery, I found a 1970s clip about the prediction about the computer age and where we're all headed.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And I found it to be, while, again, a little fearmongery, also. Kind of accurate. Okay. All right. So the people in the 70s, they sort of knew what was up. And I want to play it so you can hear it, and we can talk about it. So check this out. By the year 2000, computers will invade our privacy on a scale hardly imaginable.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They will be interconnected, and unless prevented by new legislation, will be able to sell information on where we travel, how much we spend, and in what restaurants and hotels, whether and when we pay our bills, what our neighbors say about our drinking habits, what we do with our evenings, and with whom. it's pretty close it's pretty close it's pretty close yeah no kidding i mean the whole buy two thousand thing didn't happen but still you know give us some of the 23 years yeah exactly i mean you know not even not even that like 10 years after that i think you were having the cookies that were able to report back and and i mean we've had cookies for longer than that but like people that were selling
Starting point is 00:03:49 your data and saying okay here's uh here are the websites he's looked at and here's his eating and drinking habits and stuff like that yeah no this is still the neighbors still don't know about my drinking habits no no no no but they but you're aware of theirs that's the thing to remember i'm well aware of theirs yes one in particular telegram or or vine or something what was it periscope periscope is aware of my drinking habits for oh yeah periscope and the head wound that we couldn't explain head wound yeah massive harry's head wound harry massive headwood harry headwood harry But the best part of that clip is the music in the background. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The happiest, jauntiest guitar. It's like the background dancers in, like, laugh-in or something, you know? Yeah, right, right. I don't even know what to see Goldie Hawn with stuff written all over her body going. Yeah, they're doing the Batuisi or something. Yeah, they all got B-Hive haircuts. Yep. They look like the singer, the two singer ladies from B-52s.
Starting point is 00:04:50 you know that whole vibe Kay Pearson and Cindy Wilson I believe are the names you're looking for Scott I never I just know them as the B-52 ladies that's it Brian's gonna always know the music names I'm gonna always call them something obscure or reference what they do
Starting point is 00:05:04 but you're always gonna know the years that they the things came out that's right although I don't know if I could tell you I'll say late 70s for B-52s but I could be wrong that's probably when they yeah their first their debut album with Rock Lobster
Starting point is 00:05:17 yeah 78 79 In 1979, I think. 79, that sounds right. That was close. I can get the window, usually. Yeah. You'd be within one or two years either direction.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, but I mean, there are tons, and there's stuff in the 50s and 60s, too. There's tons of these things like people try to predict where the computer revolution would go. And none of them get the phone part, it seems like. They're all big consoles at home. Even the one, there's one set in the 60s, or they did in the 60s. that showed somebody shopping from their home. Basically, Amazon, you know, it's basically Amazon, but they didn't call it that, obviously.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And then they would order it on a screen and then it would show up in this box. And, you know, there's a lot of weird little details that are wrong, but generally speaking, they got it right. But none of them get phones right. They never had, they never had us walking around with these little thin tablet computers. They always thought they'd be courted.
Starting point is 00:06:11 They, you know, they said, what the, how are on earth are we going to have phones that don't have courts? That's crazy. Yeah. And I guess we have, I guess we have both, but both is what I mean to say both both with an end. But anyway, I just thought that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And the guys just so, by the year 2000, we will not have any privacy. I'm like, yeah, okay, well, we're there. Yeah. Way to go, Mr. Monger of Fear. Speaking of technology and the kind that Brian can't live without, you mentioned some episodes ago
Starting point is 00:06:43 that CarPlay was a must for you and any car selling something other that wouldn't work with CarPlay was a no non-starter. Deal breaker. Yep. Yeah, we talked about that. That car is a non-starter.
Starting point is 00:06:54 We got alternatives from a listener. Let's see if it's worthy of what Brian wants in his life. All right, here you go. Good morning, morning, three. Just listen. It's Tuesday, Halloween, but I'm listening to Monday's show, and you guys were talking quick about CarPlay or Android Auto for systems and how much better it is than any system or any car systems,
Starting point is 00:07:17 system like Toyota Entune, what my car has, which is total crap. I bought a fancy thing called AutoCast, O-T-T-O-C-A-S-T. I know there's some other devices out there, but what's fantastic about it is it takes the Android No, it takes the Apple Play and switches it to Android Auto for me and also makes my phone Bluetooth, so I can use the fancy thing, and it's fantastic if you have slightly older vehicles that aren't completely up to date. Anyway, love the show. Happy Halloween.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Auto play. Auto play. Auto man. O TTO play or auto cast. I'm sorry. O TTO C-A-S-T. Is that right? O-T-O-C-A-S-T.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, I'm looking at this thing right now. Pretty cool. Like, um... Ooh, it looks like a Tron box. That's weird. There's a little like poly box, polygon box looking thing. Yeah. It's weird how some of them look like a ring thermostat and some of them look like a
Starting point is 00:08:12 Tron box. Yeah, that's odd. Let me close this, a big old thing in the way. No, this is cool, yeah. So if I end up really liking a car and it doesn't have car play, then I could totally get one of these and make it work. Make it do what you want. You know, it's like those old tapes you had to plug in to your CD players.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Remember those? Yeah, right. Except, I mean, obviously, this is more high tech, but I had one of those stupid tapes with a little 3.5 millimeter thing. I still have one in a box over there. I don't know why. Like, there's never going to be a time where it's like, well, I guess this car I'm looking at only has cassette.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah. But, yeah, it's a relic. Like, it's something that, I don't know, I should almost seal and resin or something. Should never get rid of it. Should have it forever. Yeah. Seal and resin. I like that. I hate their website, though.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I go into the main page. It looks like an insert from a newspaper over the weekend or something. Well, they're having their Black Friday deal, and the official colors of Black Friday are black red and white and in your face. and all caps. I don't love that. Not my favorite thing. It's fine. I get it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I didn't realize it. So is that like a known thing? It's an official color scheme? No, no, no. I'm kidding. But I mean, you know, for the next week, you're going to get inundated with ads and emails and stuff like that where the preponderance of red and black or red and white on a black background
Starting point is 00:09:37 and all caps, Cyber Monday, they might introduce the color blue because that's, It's the cyber color. They kind of screwed up, though. This is a font mistake. If you look at the main page, it looks like it says black sale Friday deal. It totally does.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yep. Yeah, this is a bad placement of the word of the sales tag hanging off the K of black. So yeah, you're right. Black sale Friday deal. Yeah, it's like that the two notes next to the other one says don't. One says, don't, how does it go? It basically is like, separately the two, the two, the two cents. sentences are self-help sentences, but if you run them together, they sound like they're the
Starting point is 00:10:17 worst thing you could say to yourself. I can't remember what they are, though. It's common. I don't know why I can't remember that. Anyway, thanks for that recommendation call. People are saying, don't dead open inside. Yeah, from the walking dead, don't open, dead inside, but it looks like don't dead, don't dead, open inside. Oh, right. Don't dead. That's good advice. Don't dead. Yeah, don't dead. Don't dead. Please. Live. Don't die. All right, we're going to get right into the game of the day. All right. We call this Dunaway Town.
Starting point is 00:10:52 That's the new name. Is that the official name of it? Dunaway Town. Yep. We've made it official. I spent 50 bucks in the courthouse. Oh, yeah, I see he's already logged into the game. Good job right, Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Guess who isn't? Guess who's not logged in? I know who's not. Why do you think I said it? Yeah, I got to get in there. I thought I did and I didn't. All right, I'm getting in. While I do that, let's play this.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Hey, look who it is. Brian Dunaway joining us. Hi there. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. How are you today? Good. How's your dad doing? Is he good? Is he feeling good? Is he all right? He's doing better. He has some procedures on Monday with a new pacemaker, and he is adjusting, as you would expect, when they dig around in your heart to stick new leads in it. Thanks, doctors. yeah that's an intense bit of business going on there yeah that's why we missed you on Monday but you you were doing the good son stuff and taking care of dad and that's good nothing wrong yeah as is as typically goes as my parents get older we we deal with this is everybody um hopefully uh yeah they they they never tell me the real deal so it was like Monday yeah I got a little procedure if you could just drop me off but you know 6 a.m. they're supposed to be done by you know
Starting point is 00:12:11 eight nine o'clock okay cool so yeah you know 11 o'clock rolls around and you're still back there and it's like yeah I'm missing I'm missing they didn't tell me how severe this was going to be you know he went like to defib during the process and all the so the crap and I'm like thanks pa yeah you thought you were just going for a quick little outpatient deal right like a routine operation kind of thing yeah yeah so there's two things so just remember when you're young and you have teenagers they they won't tell you anything and then when your parents get old they also won't tell you anything you have to find out all the information yourself yep and you're going to be that one day there'll be a day when you you know one of your sons will be like dad what's
Starting point is 00:12:50 going on this weekend you'll be like oh it's nothing i'm just having a small thing done and then it turns out you're having your liver removed or whatever yeah there's no big deal i don't even need it yeah i don't need my liver who needs a liver well anyway it's good to have you here hey brian uh oh i got to pull in a person what am i thinking here yeah we need a playoff Yeah, let's see what am I? We have, uh, geez, got a pull in a purse. Well, let's see. They might need to help you.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Oh, okay. I think we have somebody new. Let's see who this is. Uh, is this someone, yeah, I don't think we've had them on here before. This is somebody called judiper, like juniper, but juda. I like that name, Judah, like a cat that named Judah. Uh, let's see here. We can get them in here.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Like a cat named Judah? We're, you know. Per. Per. Did it? Okay. I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's the one that'll sell you out if you're Jesus and then hang himself and all his money will fall out of his pants. No, no. What was the deal with Judas? His guts fell out. That's what happened. He went and hung himself on a tree after he got busted for giving up Jesus and he and just shat all over the place or whatever. Lost his intestines. Anyway, that's a fun story.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I have no idea. Really? Christmas miracle. I really need to read this Bible. Yeah. What is this Bible you're speaking of? Hi. Is this Judiper with us?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Hello? Oh, Mike might not be on. You don't have them muted, right? No, no mute. How about mooted? You got a mooted? Do you have them mooted? They're on moot.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Hello, Judiper, are you there? Are you there? No, still not working? Just check your source. Now I see the mute icon on them. Yeah, that's them doing that. Yeah, that's exactly. Testing.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Hello, hello. Are you there? They're probably, probably your source and your audio settings is not the right one. had to guess. Let's see. Oh, they're typing something? Chutoper says. We're getting some typing. Survey says. Typing, typing, tuter per typing, not
Starting point is 00:14:48 working. Not working. Okay. Well, we tried. We'll do you next time. How about that? Let's now add to the call. That's what I always tell them. We'll do you next time. Yeah, we'll do you next time. The very next person in line was Mac Addict 89. Excellent. Oh,
Starting point is 00:15:04 yes. Hello, Mac Addict. Which I'm going to assume it was his birth year. Hello, Mac Addict. Is this you? Hello. Hello. How are you? Oh, hi. How are you?
Starting point is 00:15:14 I hear myself on something. You can mute the stream. I don't think that's the stream because it's too quick. No, that is my computer. Let me put in headphones. There you go. Yeah, it was too fast. Listener, please turn down your radio.
Starting point is 00:15:28 If that was the stream, that would be some magical. That would be zero lag whatsoever. Yeah, that would be amazing. Holy crap, Twitch and YouTube. You've upped your game. All right, Mac addict, it's good to have you here. Please mute your stream. It's been a while since we've talked to you, so I'm happy to have you as our potential
Starting point is 00:15:46 winner today. Brian Abbott just playing these rules and what he might win today. All right. While he is muting his, I'm presuming his Mac, it's time to play the Tadpool leave you. I've surveyed the Tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Mac Addict 89, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if you're a team, wins, you get a prize package. Oh, that includes
Starting point is 00:16:14 Bendy and the Dark Revival and Pathologic 2. Yes, the two games we tried to give away on Monday. Both those are great. And the person who won them said, hey, I'm more into puzzle games. I'm probably not going to play these. Please, re-gift them. Oh, you missed
Starting point is 00:16:33 out on Bendy. Bindy. I love Bendy. That's a fun game series. Yeah, we did that on, we talked about that some on the old the old boop show back in the day. Remember that? Yeah, I love it. Yeah. And Pathologic was the other one, too. That was pretty good. Yeah, cool. Both good games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I hope Mac Attic 89 is able to win those. And I believe they're both, I believe they're both Mac compatible, if I remember correctly, because I think I had it on my Mac. Look at that. Nice. Look at that. That's fine. I have a gaming PC. Yeah, you do. Oh, sorry. Look, he might be a Mac Attic.
Starting point is 00:17:08 He's a well-rounded citizen, okay? I guess I did just, I did assume your computer, didn't I? I apologize. All the best people have those computers. Oh, there is. There it is. Let's get to it here. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:25 It's time to put your hands on your buzzers. We asked 446 tadpoolers. Three of them just shrugged. That's all they did. They just shrugged. They didn't come up with anything. The other 443 gave their best answer to this. name a famous brand rivalry
Starting point is 00:17:42 Scott Coke Pepsi Show me Coke versus Pepsi It is the number one answer It is the number one answer 226 people More than half of the people
Starting point is 00:17:54 That Played the That it gave us an answer It gave us that answer So Nice rightly so We got that one off the board Low lowest hanging of the fruit
Starting point is 00:18:04 But that does mean That you have control the board And you have control of mac attic 89 of course uh let me remotely control you and suggest mac attic 89 that we might try um i feel like sega nintendo might be a a good one how do you feel about that's a great one yeah for sure let's do it sega versus nintendo show me like nintendo show me seega do what nintendo don't yeah yeah number three answer on the board good job uh mack addicts the people said that one.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I tend to the people who had Coke versus Pepsi, I should say. That Coke versus Pepsi really did run away with it. It's super dominant, yeah. Yeah. It's the one people use as comparisons when talking about other rivalries, so. I think so, yep. The Colo Wars, the great Cola Wars of 1986. Mac Addict, any others jumping out at you?
Starting point is 00:18:56 What about Mac versus PC? Oh, duh. Oh, that's perfect. Yes, Mac versus PC. I'll bet it's number two. Do you have a preference? Do you have a horse in that raised? No comment.
Starting point is 00:19:10 No, he is not. Show me Mac versus PC. Oh, Apple versus Microsoft. It's not PC addict, I bet. I thought it was going to be higher. That surprises me. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:19:24 That war has lessened. It's, it has lessened, exactly. They work with each other a lot more now. And they got, you know, I can get off silver here and I get Apple shit over there. It's kind of not nearly the war. to be. Exactly. So number six,
Starting point is 00:19:37 good points for you. You know, that obviously helps you out a lot. I'm going to say iOS versus Android. Let's stay in the same zone here. Sure. All right. That's good.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I like my iPhone. I like my same tongue. Show me Apple versus Android. Yeah, number four on the list. Okay. Now we're right. Oh, it's Apple versus the world, isn't it? Geez.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Well, and you've got the world's largest market cap. You tend to have rivals. Okay. So now we're. in the weeds. Mac addict, anything else on your list? What about Xbox versus PlayStation?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Oh, that's a good, yeah, yeah. You know what? Yeah, that's a modern redo, redo, redux of the Sega Nintendo thing. So let's do that. Sony versus Microsoft in that case. Show me Xbox, Xbox versus PlayStation. Xbox. Xbox.
Starting point is 00:20:28 There's a whole, wait, wait, wait, wait. Number five on the list. Scott, running away with points here, 19. Yeah, I'm telling you. Not enough to lock it down for Mac Attic, but doing a heck of a job. Let's see if this one helps. Let's do DC versus Marvel. Oh, good one.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, DC, the DC Zombies game just got Kickstarter launched from Simons. So if you want your own collection of figures you're never going to paint in the DC universe, now is the time to hop on that bandwagon. Show me Marvel versus DC. Oh, wow. Number nine. I think that insures the close to insure. Number nine. Let's see, 18, no, 27.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, it totally does. Yeah, so regardless of what happens, Mac Attic gets the prize. I'm sad for my loss, very excited for Mac Addick. I'm just sad that you haven't even gotten a chance to answer a single time yet. You may get there now because I'm in a, now I'm at a bit of a rut, Mac Addick. Oh, you're not to call the Good Wednesday. Yeah, I took everything that was obvious.
Starting point is 00:21:32 What do you? attic anything on your head in your head not on there no not really let's do how about this um oh is that a brand though hold on yeah let's do uh Chevy versus Ford that's big here in States is oh that's a good one truck owners and stuff yeah let's do that Ford versus Chevy uh all right show me Ford versus Chevy number eight damn very good yep surprised by that by the way uh Faisley wants to remind Brian Dun away, spelled D-O-N-E dash away.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Sorry to bug you, please remind Scott and Brian slash Coverville to watch Reach your season two this December after the game or somewhere in the mid. Thanks. I love this guy now. I love him. Like I was the first time I was like a little, not annoyed, but just kind of like whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But now I want this every day. I want my daily reminders. Exactly. I don't ever leave this chat. That's really good. Um, okay. We can, so we can be a little fru-frew here. What if we said, because I think we have a lot of gamers in our midst. Hell, we give, we give away games on this contest. So I'm going to say maybe let's try Steam versus Epic, even though it's not much of a fight. Not much of a fight, but I still think it's a fun, it's a fun little rivalry. All right. Okay. Show me Steam versus Epic. No. I'm even surprised to say that, um, uh, that didn't even come. up in anybody's answer, amazingly enough.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You know why? Because steam kicked their ass. Because they can't have a feud if one of them is just steam rolls over the other one. All right. They just were too big, too long, too much. I mean, they're still trying, but it's not working out. Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Brian, it's your turn. You get to actually answer. Yeah. You get a chance. Three answers left on the board. number two, number seven, and the big number 10. If you get all three of these, you still lose. Look, if you get all three of these,
Starting point is 00:23:38 that's interesting. I know, it is interesting. If you win, though, Brian, if you clear out the rest of these, if you get two, seven, and ten, I will send you one of these stickers also. So you'll get a Pac-Man sticker. To Brian or to Mac Addict? To Brian, although Mac Attic would probably get one, too.
Starting point is 00:23:54 But I'm trying to give these away, as you can tell them, because I got a bunch of them and I got a story. Even if you don't get it, you'll probably get a sticker. All right. You'll like it, though, because it's an old Pac-Man machine all beat up. You'll love it. Ooh, I do like Pac-Man. Ooh, Pac-Man versus Cubert.
Starting point is 00:24:09 No, how about, I'm, ooh, I can't decide between, how about Mickey D's versus the BK Lounge? Oh, my. Good Lord. All right. There you go. The clown versus the king. All right, show me McDonald's versus Burger King. Number seven.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Nice. There we go. Nice. Yeah. I didn't think about. I forgot about it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I forgot about fast food. I've been listening to a really good podcast. Um, I've learned all about, uh, Adidas versus Pumas. And it's been an amazing listen, but I don't think anyone's going to guess that. But I do think they may look at Nike versus Adidas.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Oh. Uh, that's a pretty big rivalry when I was growing up. Um, you know, you had one of the other. You didn't, you didn't do both. Yeah. That's interesting, because here was Nike versus Rebock. Reebok. Rebock was the big one. Reebok.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Oh, yeah, there was a while when Rebock moved into the second spot. But they slid down shortly after. Sure. All right. Absolutely. All right. Let's do it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Show me, well, any of the four of those shoe companies, you guys just mentioned. No, it doesn't matter right there. Oh, he got it. He does versus Puma versus Nike versus Reebok. There's an amazing podcast out right now about the Adidas versus Puma. And I didn't know they were both German and there were brothers and they had some kind of falling out. Really good podcast. Yeah. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Everybody, it seemed to be all four iterations of those choices. Like, oh, is Nike versus Adidas or Nike versus Puma? No, is Puma versus Adidas? No, is it Nike versus Reebok. Yeah. The shoe wars of the late 80s, early 90s was something, man. It was a... Yeah, it really was.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Today, today it's just, I don't know what it is. It's way simmered down, but back then it was hardcore. Yeah. Shimmer down now. Yeah. All right, then I'm. You got another one? One answer left on the board.
Starting point is 00:26:12 This is great. Let's see if we can sweep this thing. My favorite rivalry that might be just below the Marvel versus DC is DC versus DC with Batman v. Superman. Oh, I always like that. Oh, are they a brand? Can you call the... I guess you could. they should make a movie
Starting point is 00:26:30 they got their own they got their own merch where did you hear that name Brian where did you hear that name yeah starring Martha all right show me
Starting point is 00:26:42 Batman versus Superman oh yeah I like I like the thinking though yeah very good that's pretty good all right so
Starting point is 00:26:53 not even on the list not even nobody else said that by the way oh wow okay all right I still like where your head went. All right, Mac Attic, let's have a big finish here. We've got number 10. Has anything seeped into your knowledge base since we last spoke, you and I?
Starting point is 00:27:09 I'm going to steal from the chat. Oh, you can do that, sure. Yeah, absolutely. The chat is the one who answered this question anyway, so you should definitely listen to them. And earlier they had said Star Wars versus Star Trek, and that is really stuck. Oh, that is a very good one. Pick aside before you might die. Yeah, or like it all, I do. I'll tell you what, though, I'm a little, if that's number 10, I'll be shocked because it seems like that should have been way higher for our group, but let's do it. Star Trek, Star, Star, Star, I agree. Yeah, weird. All right, show me Star the Wars versus Star the Trek. Oh, look it now. Look at that cleared the board. That's amazing. Pretty good. Like, you guys
Starting point is 00:27:51 cleared the board without, without more than one strike each, which is absolutely amazing. That's really, really good. You shouldn't be, you didn't even get a. strike brian did you oh i got one strike i said that's it bat v soups oh right right okay oh that's right you did that's the sound you get when you clear the board nicely that's a great that's a great sound yeah who else did we or what else did we have that we missed yeah let's tell you about the rest of the ones on the list uh metallica versus megadeth orio versus hydrox left quicks versus right twicks. What?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Budweiser versus Miller. Heinz versus Hunts or Frenches. KFC versus Popeyes versus Chick-fil-A. Dave Grohl versus Courtney Love. Okay. Not quite a brand. Neither is Democrat versus Republican. That's been going on, though.
Starting point is 00:28:39 FedEx versus UPS. Invidia versus A&D. Oh, NVIDIA-A-M-D is a good one. That is a good one. Oasis versus Blur, sure. Pizza Hut versus Dominoes, Taco Bell, versus Taco Johns. The Beatles versus the Stones.
Starting point is 00:28:53 By the way, they were both friends with each other. Beatles even included an homage to the stones on the cover of Sergeant Peppers. And weirdly enough, we get new Beatles music and new Stones music in 2023. I don't know how that happens. Don't ask me. Twizzlers versus Red Vines, Amazon versus Walmart, Backstreet Boys versus Instinct. D&D versus Pathfinder, Edison versus Westinghouse, Eminem versus Edmonds,
Starting point is 00:29:19 versus everyone versus Little Debbie Wow Nice Asbro versus Mattel Hot Pockets versus Tatino's Pizza rolls Corn versus Limp biscuit
Starting point is 00:29:31 Levi versus Rangler What Levi's and Ranglers Were they ever truly rivals though Because one of them was You're wearing cowboy boots with one And not the other one You know like exactly
Starting point is 00:29:42 Here's one you'll love Ludens versus Halls Oh my lord The great The rivalry Can we tell who wrote that there's no way to know no no way to tell who wrote that whoever you are you're amazing and i owe you a sticker as well because that is freaking great you're cold if you want to prove that you're the
Starting point is 00:30:00 person who wrote that tell scott the rest of the text that uh you included with the ludens versus halls yes that way i'll know it's you yeah and i'll verify with brian so i know it's for sure you and then i will send you stickers not just sticker stickers because that's freaking funny that you pick cold remedies as a thing That's amazing. That's great. Somebody just wrote Make up World People's
Starting point is 00:30:24 cry, cry, cry emoji. And I don't know what that means. Make up World People's cry, cry, cry. I don't know. People are going through stuff. Let's see. Nickelback versus everyone. Paul Simon versus Art Garfunkel.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Post versus General Mills. Radio Shack versus Circuit City. Sheets versus Wawa. Taking Back Sunday versus brand new. Taylor Swift versus everyone. I do like the the versus everyone's. The morning stream versus
Starting point is 00:30:52 Coverville. Oh, stop at you. Twitter versus X. Somebody just wrote Van Halen. And I think that's probably pretty accurate. Just Van Halen. Walmart versus Target. And XTC versus Adamant, which is not just a feud,
Starting point is 00:31:08 but also the title of it, they might be giant song. Wow. Whoa, that was supposed to play. I don't know why that played. Hey, that was great. What a bunch of great answers. What a great board-filling.
Starting point is 00:31:18 time we've had and one of these two. Congratulations. We got a winner. You're a winner. Mac Addict, congratulations. Brian will send you a little PM here shortly. If he hasn't already, probably already has. Doing it right now? Nope, I was too busy reading a thousand answers. Yeah, people gave us. Amazing answers, though. You guys delivered Tadpool on some amazing stuff that didn't make the top 10 even. Really good stuff. Mac addict, how do you feel about your big win? Wonderful. Thank you guys. I can tell you. Hope you're able to see somebody about that addiction. Yeah, let's know. We'll see you around.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Dunoway, it's good to have you back, sir. And we're going to do this again this weekend when you and I get together for a little play retro time. Tell the folks what we're covering because it's exciting. Absolutely. We're going to be crazy climbers. And we're heading back to the arcade for some crazy climbers. Scott is always talking about this, Johnson. By the way, I talked to Scott Fletcher last night.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And he said, Scott Johnson is right. And I was like, okay, Scott Fletcher. Yeah. But I've underestimated this game because I always saw it as some dumb, you know, what are you doing? You climb up a wall, that's dumb. But there's all kinds of coordination involved with these two joysticks. You have to try to make them move and crap. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I will second Scott's love of Crazy Clamer and the baby elephant walk music that you will never get out of your head. Oh, that do. do do do that thing go for it go for it and the bird's shitting on you and everything and in the Japanese version you could just toggle that on and off
Starting point is 00:32:53 it was crazy I had a stand-up one in my basement our living room had the sit-down one and the sit-down one instead of holding the sticks like this you held them down like this and so you had to change up how you would kind of
Starting point is 00:33:09 you'd have to get a new feel for it and me and my friends we're always like having this challenge of who could transition and still score high without screwing up because it changed your hand-eye coordination. Anyway, that game's great. I want a digital watch playing it. It's an amazing game and I have
Starting point is 00:33:24 tons of stories about it. It's going to be really fun. I imagine something you can play it on now just use as dual analog sticks, right? So you can just go boop-beep. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I played it with my Xbox 360 controller, which has two sticks and just use your little thumb there. It works really well because the emulation has
Starting point is 00:33:42 seeing the sticks as on and off and not analog. Oh, and not analog, right. So not slowly on, slowly on. Yeah, so you'd think it'd be easy to screw up, but really you just have to go past median for up and pass median for down and it recognizes it. It's really cool. As you can tell, I have some passion for this game. We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:34:03 That'll be this weekend, Friday, actually, at 2.30 Mountain Time. So please tune in and check out me and done away there. Or if you want the podcast version, you can get that at frogpans.com slash play retro. Brian Dunaway, I would like you to kiss our butts. Know you. Bye. To know you is to love you. It's so weird because his morning
Starting point is 00:34:22 his morning game show lag is worse than his film sack lag. He has hardly any on film sack. Zero lag in film sack. Yeah, I don't know whether it's, if it's just because I don't know. That doesn't make sense. Yeah. I don't know either. There's wireless or something. I have no idea. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That was super fun. Great, great one today. Yeah. All right. Let us move on to some news coverage here at the news desk we got news to do time for the news brought to you by the wrong whopper oh yeah so in addition to the dog eating fries and then yeah taking a dump on a pillow said fries out um i kim brought home yesterday she brought home some burger king because the kid was here and it was just like well let's just all get it so and i like a whopper i'm a fan i don't eat the fries anymore done with that in my life oh wow i know the discipline involved with that is seriously impressive.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I have to. I just can't. For whatever reason, they're my kryptonite. So I get a whopper. But here's the problem. When I went up there to get it, it was after the show with Greg. And I was starving because I hadn't eaten. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So I go up there and she says, it's on the table. I have to go to the dentist. I said, cool. So her and Carter are off to the dentist. And I went upstairs and no one's here, except me and the dogs. And this is pre-dog eating the fries. That happened later. I get up there and I see two whoppers on the table.
Starting point is 00:35:42 one that's wrapped and one that's laying out with a single bite taken out of it. And I went, well, obviously, it's not the one with a bite taken out of it. I don't know what that deal is there. That seems like a wasted whopper. What are we doing? So I grabbed the one that was wrapped. And I start tearing into it and I realize, this is an impossible wopper. It's one of those impossible meat patties.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Oh, sure. Yeah. Right. And I realize, oh, this is Carter's Wopper. So I call Kim. Oh, no. She's in the dental chair. I go, hey, what's what's whopper am I supposed to?
Starting point is 00:36:12 eat she's like oh yeah sorry uh carters is the wrapped one years is the one that has a single bite taylor didn't realize it was yours and thought it you know said it would be fine and it is i don't care i don't i don't have a cootie's problem with my daughter yeah so i said uh i said oh okay so now i've got a half-eaten impossible whopper oh but then i ate the whole other wopper and then i went well why didn't i just eat fries and kill myself like everybody else does Anyway, it was stupid You ate half of an impossible whopper So it was impossible to eat
Starting point is 00:36:47 To not eat the other whopper And by the way, I will say Those impossible woppers pretty freaking good They're not They're really good, yeah They're not bad I don't I can tell the difference, right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 You can tell the difference But it's not a bad difference Sadly because of all the salt stuff They put in there There's really not a benefit like a calorie benefit to eating an impossible whopper, but if you're, obviously, if you're vegetarian, great option. Yeah, and if you're trying to, I don't know, I guess just kill less cows, vegetarian style.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, exactly. I don't know what else. What other benefits benefit? You're still getting a lot of salt, so it's not like, yeah, not like there's much of another benefit, but save the cows, eat an impossible whopper. I'm putting that on a t-shirt. Let's go. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Here's a first story of the day. folks we're going to share this one with you we got a hijacking to report hold on to your butts oh no oh no yeah the hijacking of 339000 dollars american dollars worth of rare japanese kit cats it wasn't us we used to get these all the time but we have nothing to do with this this hijacking yeah oh my god how many japanese kid cats have we gotten over the years oh my gosh so many i kind of miss those days those were great i kind of do too yeah you kind of blue for both of us what's up listeners We used to have a whole segment called... Yeah, well, the problem was, you said,
Starting point is 00:38:06 No More Shug, and they don't want to just send it to me. They, you know, it's like kind of both or nothing. So I'll taste test... I'll taste test your Shug, but I don't want to... I just can't sit and eat it anymore, you know? Yeah. But I'll taste test it. So if anyone out there's got a weird Kit Kat,
Starting point is 00:38:21 and you're like, I just... The boys have to try this. We're still down. Okay. Right. The hijacking, it went like this. Mr. Danny Tang's 55,000 Kit Katz. that's 55,000 separate Kit Katz.
Starting point is 00:38:36 That's an insane number of Kit Kat. Which is actually, you double that. What is that? No, wait, what is that? Because there's two sticks per Kit Kat package. So if you're counting sticks, that's a hundred and fifty thousand? Yeah, it would just be double because it's, uh, it would just be double because it's always thousand.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Right, it's always two. Always two. Well, in those in the, in the Japanese Kit Katz, it's always two. it's not the like the four you get in a regular bar oh right we get the four i forgot they used to or that that's how that was you still if you get the full size kit cats at a convenience store it's a it's four but the little japanese ones are always like they're the perfect snack size like yeah i just want a little bit of a kit cat yeah those are perfect two um what's the one that has always two oh twix is always two sticks twix is always two yeah it's the it's the candy with the cookie crunch
Starting point is 00:39:27 it's the candy with the cookie crunch and the left right left left left twix versus is the right twist right those two never get along uh anyway yeah they began their long twisted journey uh sometimes obscure journey in japan mr tang is the founder of boxu a new york company that sells japanese snacks and subscription boxes you heard of this before i have i tried one box i didn't do the full on subscription but i was like oh let's see what we get in a box of boxu and it was cool i mean it is you get a ton of snacks i was able to to subsist off of one box of Baksu snacks for three or four months. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And they want to send you one of those every month. It's like, no, that's all right, especially not for 40 bucks or whatever it was. It was expensive. Oh, that's who's going to ask what the price was. That's a lot. Yeah, it's pricey. I need those boxes. Those boxes need to have an upper limit of about 15 for me to want to do it all the time, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:24 which I realize I'm not going to get shit, right? It's going to be bad. You're going to get garbage. You're going to get Cracker Jack tattoos. And little plastic stress balls is what you're going to get. I'll go 20. Yeah. Still not going to be great.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You know, you go 40 for the right thing. Like the, you know, the sci-fi loot crate, I think, is really good. I think that might be the last one I'm subscribed to. And I feel like I get 150, 200 bucks worth of stuff in a $40 box every couple months. You know how your brain will sometimes latch on to an old memory and then it doesn't matter how much time passes. is your that always pops up this happens every time so here's a new thing i've never told anyone so i'll tell you and everyone else in the audience when any to anytime someone tells me something costs 20 bucks uh-huh my first thought is that's what charles ingles paid for five acres and a
Starting point is 00:41:22 horse on an episode of the prairie yeah on an episode of little house on the prairie there was this episode i just remember it so distinctly as a kid because they said how much for the five acres in the horse? And the guy replied, $20. If you give it to me now, you can take the horse with you. And I remember going, holy shit. Do you have to take his shirt off, though, to get it? Did Charles Ingalls have to go shirtless?
Starting point is 00:41:46 That's true. Well, he always is in my mind anyway, so it was fine. He kind of, you know, we've got a friend who started binge watching those, and she says, he goes shirtless a lot more than you probably remember. Yeah. And now there's talk. There's talk from, was it the lady that played his wife? somebody said he was like he was kind of nasty on set like yeah that's what i hear it's a real
Starting point is 00:42:06 bummer because we all sainted that guy yeah i know never never never it's never saying what was his uh his kind of more religious show that he did in the 80s oh something from heaven yeah that's right heaven not heaven can wait uh heaven something i'm here from heaven heaven no that was a similar that was a different thing highway to head highway to juice. Right. And he kept and he kept bringing that dude that was on Little House with him on that show too. The bearded guy. The big dumb friend. He was also a big dumb friend in that. I want to come be my big dumb friend on this new show? Yeah, absolutely. Sounds good. Just be here for my whole career. Will you a big dumb friend? Anyway. There you go. So $20 is how we got there.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah, that's how we got there. But the point is like I will always do that in my head. I won't say it out loud. But when you say 20 bucks, I go, five acres and a horse. Incredible. I'm sure there's Stuff like that for me, I'll have to, next time one triggers, I'll have to let you know. Yeah, because we all have them of some kind of. We all have them for sure. I do it with, if you say 49, I say, that's a new 360 game. If you say, you know, $2.99, I say, that's what I paid for my PS2. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, I do a lot of video game money comparison stuff in my head. I don't know why. Just is. That's funny. Because you always think that instead of spending it on some food, I'm not going to poop. It's something that you'd have for a lot longer to enjoy. I get it. No, it totally does make sense.
Starting point is 00:43:37 It's a little babyish of me, but I do it. No. You know, it puts things, if nothing else, it puts things in a frame that you're more, that you more associate with value. You know, I think there's something to that. Yeah, and it could be anything, I guess, whatever you're into. Yeah. Drugs, maybe. I could say cocaine or heroin.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Sure. Well, there's that. This is a whole eight ball worth of H-O-A payments or whatever. Right. So here's the upshot of this. This guy, the shipment, which included sought after flavors such as melon, macho latte, and dafuku mochi. Defuku? DiFuku?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I think. There's another way to pronounce that, but I'm not going to do it. Oh, yeah. Definitely don't do that. Cost him 110 grand. Wait, no, I'm sorry, U.S. 110 grand, right? But they expected to make more than $250,000 in total revenue. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:44:39 He says this, you can fit a lot of Kit Katz into two containers. You're not wrong, Mr. Tang. Yeah, like we're talking big shipping containers, yes. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't mean little ones, I don't think. Little plastic containers, no. These particular kids' cats would become key players in an ultimately frustrating saga of Shell E-Command accounts, a phantom trucker, supply chain fraud, and one seriously bewildered cargo freight broker. It's funny because this is written like it's going to be another documentary on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, I would watch it too, dude. I got it would too, honestly. What was that one that we... I was getting the music information ready so I can introduce the next song. Do you remember the PEZ thing, the PEZ documentary? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great. That would be a lot like that. Yeah, and those were also...
Starting point is 00:45:24 The importing PEZs from other countries was who knew such a... uh like customs issue yeah where was the country for that was it like uh that was european it was uh it's like prague or something or or ukraine or something i don't remember but that was a if you guys ever i don't remember the title i think we recommend it but that is such a cool doc i love that what weird people they were so weird the main dude that lives in the farm with the lady now yes oh my god i'd forgotten about him he's so weird such a such a weird You had audio of that guy, but I don't know how you'd ever find it. I can't remember what he said that was so funny that you made a stinger.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, I kept two or three of them, I think, in there somewhere. Well, anyway, good luck to Mr. Tang. Good luck to us on taking a break here. We're going to do that, and we're going to play a song, and Brian has all the preparations right there in front of him. Brian, what are we doing? I do, and here's what messed me up is that I put our first song with something different. I'm changing that right now because we have two covers today.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And the reason for that is because our indie in the middle is a cover. It's rare that I get a cover sent to me by the labels, by the indie bands or labels themselves. But in this case, I did, and it's really, really good. This is a band called Radiobot. It's a dynamic musical ensemble combining Brett Scalions, Billy Harvey, and Eddie Wall. Brett Scalions. Brett Scalions, yum, yum. Brett Scalions.
Starting point is 00:46:54 This is their... Their next single is going to be coming out next month. It's called This World's on Fire. That is going to be an original. Comes out December 8th. We might hear it on the show. Who knows? But in the meantime, here's their take on the great Bob Dylan's subterranean homesick blues.
Starting point is 00:47:25 China's in the basement mixing up the matter. I'm on the pavement, think about the government. The man in the trench coat bad child laid off, says he got a bad car, wants to get paid off. Look out, kid, that's something you did. God knows when, but you do it again. You better deck down the battery looking for a new friend. A man in the crudskin cap in the pit pin. He wants $11 bills, you only got 10.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Magi comes three foot, fast full of black soot, talking that the heat put plants and the bed butt. The phone's trapped in the way Maggie says the man is safe. They must be busted early may hold us from the tear. Look out, kid, don't matter what you did, walk on your tiptoes, don't tie no foes. Better stay away from those that carry around to fire holes. Keep it clean nose, watch the plain clothes. We don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind goes Oh, get sick, get well, hang around the e-bill, hanged tail if anything's going to sail
Starting point is 00:48:48 Try hard, get far, get back, the night rail, can't jump there, chart the odd and hit sail. Look out, kid, you're going to get hit. But losers, cheaters, six-time users, hang around the feeders, girl by the whirl, looking for a new fool to follow leaders, watch your parking leaders. Get for, keep warm, short pants, get blessed, get dressed, get blessed. Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don't steal, don't live
Starting point is 00:49:32 20 years of schooling And they put you on the day shift Look at a kid, they keep it all head You better jump down a manhole Light your shelf a candle Don't wear sandals try to avoid the sandals They wanna be a bum, you better chew gum The punk don't work
Starting point is 00:49:49 Because the fandles took the handles Vandals to the handles. Oh, what fun it is to chop? Unpack man every day! He could technically not have penis-herry contact with Ovalvo. I've been holding on to that one for a while. Hey, Brian, what was that song again? Sure, that's the band Radio Bot and their cover of Bob Dylan's subterranean homesick blues
Starting point is 00:50:44 look out for their new single. Coming out next month, this world's on fire. We might just play it here on TMS. I can't wait for that moment in our lives. All right. get a let's get one tom merritt involved uh with this thing please let's be civil tom play us a quick solo to show everyone how hard you've been practicing well that's what i expect from tom merritt he is here for uh per usual on a wednesday to talk about the daily tech headlines of the world
Starting point is 00:51:16 and uh fill us in them once maybe happening a little later on daily tech news show tom merritt welcome back from belgium hey thanks yeah you had a good time and we talked to you last week but Everything go well and, you know. Yeah, no, it went great. I had a wonderful time. And I wish I got to see more of Belgium than I did. But the bit that I saw, delicious. Probably not a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Did you have any Brussels sprouts while you were there? I actually did. Oh, wow. Are they fresher there? The first day I was there, I went into this little deli that looked good, looked very healthy, and I went over to the bar, and I got some pasta and put it in my bowl. And then I was like, oh, my God, there's Brussels sprouts. Oh, you've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, absolutely. Brussels and Brussels, my gosh. Yeah, I didn't check to see if they were just labeled Sprouts. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you're back. You've probably been, you know, busy with stuff and getting all back into the swing of things. What's going on right now that you're going to cover today? Well, you know, usually when someone announces awards nominations, everyone looks at those nominations and says,
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yep, that is exactly right. We have no criticisms of these awards. But strangely, the recently announced game awards have caused some questions, Scott. Have you heard about this? Yeah, unfortunately, I sure have, Tom. And this kind of happens every year. This year, though, is a very particular year in the industry in that it has showcased some of the greatest games of a decade or more.
Starting point is 00:52:52 sure um it's unprecedented how many you know a level games s tier games came out in the year 2023 there's also some real stinkers that happened but nobody noticed them because everything else was so good so the competition was thick some amazing both critical and audience favored things happen and i just knew leading up to these award announcements jeff keely's whole thing um it's worse than him with movies like we all get frustrated when her favorite actor doesn't get an Oscar nomination or even at the Oscars
Starting point is 00:53:23 when your favorite movie Mad Max Hero doesn't win in a crowded room full of other nominations we know that feeling but with gamers it's more intense
Starting point is 00:53:32 and more terrible and they freak out about everything mostly they're mad that Starfield didn't make the guy of the airman Starfield got one nomination
Starting point is 00:53:43 out of the entire run of categories yeah other stuff got seven or eight some got more it's no surprise and probably will be no surprise that Balder's Gate 3
Starting point is 00:53:53 will end up running away with this. I wouldn't be surprised and I think it deserves it. But I am a little surprised to see that not on there. But then there are also some indie titles that don't even make the light of day that were some of the best games this year.
Starting point is 00:54:05 There's a game called Dave the Diver which I absolutely loved. It's this dinky little game. It came out of nowhere, took everybody by storm, massively popular. People loved it. And it's nowhere near Game of the Year list.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And I think that's a weird shame. So they're focus on, so I'm starting to be like the people that annoy me, but they're focus on, you know, AAA only. And it's all the stuff you know about for sure and the big names. Them focusing on that is the part that frustrates me. But if they're going to do that, it is surprising not to see Starfield on there. That thing was a massive success. And critically, a little mixed.
Starting point is 00:54:45 There's a lot of things about Bethesda games that are Bethesda game problems. And so people just like to have issues with that. But if you like Starfield, you really liked it. So I guess I feel for some of these people that their game didn't get nominated. I get it. Here's the question, though, because psychologically, it is a lot easier to look at a list and say, hey, this is missing than it is to create the list with a limit. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Right. This happens all the time on Daily Tech News show. people will say, well, why didn't you cover this story? And it's kind of impossible to explain because when you're making a rundown, it's very subjective and you're always going to leave out something because you only, you know, you don't want the show to be an infinite amount of time. So it's kind of hard to describe like, you know, oh, well, it didn't do this or it's because of that.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Same thing with Game of the Year. What would you have removed from Game of the Year? Starfield. And I'll give you time to think by naming what's in there. Alan Wake 2, Balders Gate 3, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Resident Evil 4, Super Mario Brothers Wonder, and The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom. I would have probably taken Resident Evil 4 remake out of there because it is a wonderful remake, but it's a remake of an old game. Like they did a great job and they really did, and like they've done with all their Resident Evil remakes up to this point, they've done an
Starting point is 00:56:19 amazing job with it. It's an incredible experience. I played through the whole thing. I'll never play it again because I hate scary games, but it was great. I don't think it belongs on that list as a remake. Maybe that's a separate category and then you could have included the Dead Space remake, which was also excellent this year, should not be ignored. This year's full of those kinds of experiences, like amazing remakes, amazing new titles. So them trying to cram all this into like five names is a fool's errand. Like in a normal year, maybe
Starting point is 00:56:50 not though. So like with movies, they used to do five, right, for the Oscars and then they broadened it to 10. They moved it up to 10. And I think it's for the reasons you described. It's like, it's just too narrow to have only five. So if it were me, I would have had.
Starting point is 00:57:03 But yeah, still pretty narrow. Yeah, I would say put more in here. Give us 10, give us 12. I think that's reasonable. And there are enough candidates most years to fill that list. And if there's I was going to say that if you do 10, even at the Academy Awards, there's always like, well, why didn't they include this one?
Starting point is 00:57:20 And it actually makes it worse because there's more chances for you to pick at something that's on the list because you got 10 to pick from. Yeah, you're right. I do respect the sort of like, let's keep it limited. I feel like you just passed the test, though, because a lot of times when you ask that question of yourself, you start to look at the list and you're like, well, I mean, maybe I'd pick Starfield over this one, but that one's pretty good. I mean, Baldur's Gay.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That one's got to be on there. You went pretty easily right to Resident Evil 4 and made a really good case for it. Right. And I don't, and again, it's not a knock on the game because it is really, really good. It's just that do we not give another massively new game that year? And what all this tells me, though, in the end, what this tells me is that contest mentality kind of sucks. And by that I mean popularity contests. The idea that if your game's not on there, then you feel personally invalidated as to your choices of what you think. should be on there. It's just not a healthy thing for us, you know. So part of me hates these
Starting point is 00:58:20 awards, partly because when they roll around and you see the actual stage thing, it's more of a showcase for new trailers, gameplay footage announcements. The awards are weirdly secondary. They barely do them. Like they're just kind of quick reads. Sometimes for the big two or three categories, they have somebody come up on stage. But most of them, they rattle them off, clap a little bit and then move on to the next let's call them commercials because that's what they are another trailer or whatever and that's all fine but i think calling it the awards and then us pretending that it's the definitive thing and we better adhere to these are the best i think may not be great for us as people as a people a couple of things there yeah uh one if you don't call it the awards
Starting point is 00:59:03 and just call it the big trailer show nobody watches no you're not wrong i totally like the awards all the gimmick. And this is true of all the award shows. I don't watch the Academy Awards so much to find out who wins as to see all the trailers and the people and like, oh, I haven't seen that person in a while. Oh, that's a cool clip. Oh, I didn't know about. Like, same for the Grammys, even more so. Grammys, you're there for the performances. You almost don't even care who wins. But you need the hook. I don't know why, but we need that hook to be like, oh, but I'm watching to see who wins best of the year. Right. Right. And the second thing I'll add is I don't think anyone thinks these are definitive lists, right?
Starting point is 00:59:45 Some people do, but yeah, we're not supposed to. I think if we all sort of agree like, hey, this is just a fun exercise, and it's one way of determining the best, and maybe we agree, maybe we don't, then it becomes a lot healthier and a lot more fun. I think Free Rangers has it right. I really like what he just said in the chat. He says all awards are subjective. The only reason I like the Oscars is because it exposes me to movies and
Starting point is 01:00:09 may have missed what wins best picture is subjective or may or may not be the best movie quote unquote best movie i totally agree with that that's the healthy way to look at this and then then contest can be kind of fun i just don't like when people get over serious about it and maybe i'm getting over serious about it it's hard not to though right it's hard not to um the only i will say this though the only reason that final fantasy 16 people aren't more up in arms about them not getting nominated at all is because Starfield is taking the stage on who's the maddest about not being in the oxygen out of the room. So again, I mean, what we've helped illustrate here is just how insane 2023 is.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And also what a contradiction it is, there's been more industry layoffs than we've had in a very long time. In the same year, we've had some of the biggest successes. The overall profitable take by the industry is higher than, it's ever been and yet there's these weird dichotomies and old games are new again and new games are the best we've ever seen and the genres they come out in like it's a why absolutely wild year for video games so i guess enjoy it everybody yeah and and it's a it's a good conversation starter if nothing yeah and zelda zelda got in there or tears of the kingdom got in there for best thing or wait did you have that on the list yeah game of the year it probably won't win
Starting point is 01:01:31 Nintendo people are going to get real pissed. That's fine. You won with Breath of the Wild. It's fine. Okay. Let, Balders Gate 3 win. It actually should win. There you go. That's Scott planting his flag. You know what's going to happen to. Starfield's one nomination, we shouldn't forget. They did get one nomination was for Best RPG, but Balders Gates probably going to win that too. Yeah, because it's in the same cat says. I don't know. It's all screwy. I really like Keely and I like what he's doing. And, you know, he's single. Fantasy 16 got nominated for Best RPG. Oh, it's in there, too.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I didn't realize. I thought I got none. Well, they won't be so mad. They won't be so mad. Well, there you go. We will make some mention of that today on the show on DT&S as well as many other tech stories. That will happen today at 2.30 mountain time. No, 2 p.m. Mountain Time. Tom, anything else going on you'd like to tell people about? Indeed. I have a new novel and I'm trying a novel way of rolling it out. So it is about time being broken in three places. And it has broken down the laws of physics so that you, through no act of your own, might just experience what they call a k-shift, which changes the fundamental constant of the universe, and you have a 30% chance of surviving that if it happens. Wow. So in order to fix that, they have to go back in time and find someone who they can influence to make a decision to fix it without making things worse.
Starting point is 01:03:05 It's called The Moment. And if you're interested, it's being serialized every week, a new chapter at freetown newsletter.com. The newsletter, of course, is free. The book is not. So if you pay to subscribe, you get the book. Go check it out. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Brian, you'll have to read it and give it your time travel. I will. It's my time travel stamp of approval. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would love to hear that. He's actually a hardcore time travel critic, let's call it. And I'd be curious.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I'd be curious where it lands on the scale given that. Listen, knowing where it comes from, I'm sure it's fantastic. Oh, I'm sure it is. Yeah, we know the author. He's awesome. We're honest. I would love to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Well, there you go. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. He is Ace to Tech on all the socials. Tom. We'll see you a little bit later on Daily Tech News show. You got it. He gave us a thumbs up. That was cool.
Starting point is 01:03:56 He did. He did. People at home didn't see it. but we got a little. Fizzle, Fazzle, one of these posts, you got to tell me how to pronounce your name. Now it's,
Starting point is 01:04:08 Hi, Brian slash Coverill. Could you pick on Scott and Mr. Merritt if they are excited for Ms. Universe before he drops off his segment, thanks to Scott. Ms. Universe. Ms. Universe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Is that Mrs. Universe? Is that an upcoming thing? Do you work for Amazon Prime? Is this, is this? I feel like we're getting, I feel like we're getting, yeah, like somebody who works The Hulu's pocket.
Starting point is 01:04:30 What is going on? Very weird. I love it, though. Keep it up. Let's move on to... But maybe a little bit less... Yeah, maybe just tiny. Just this much?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Just tiny? Exactly. I guess he only does it once per guest, so... Okay, let's see what he has to say for Randy. Yeah, oh gosh. Last minute, we lost Nicole. She's got family in town. And she's busy with that, so we will not be talking to her, but we will be talking to
Starting point is 01:04:55 Randy. And when we do, you'll know it because it'll be after this. Well, what do you recommend? I'll tell you what we recommend streaming stuff on streaming services. And we have Randy Jordan here to help us do that. Hi, Randy. Good morning, morning, stream. It is absolutely beautiful here today.
Starting point is 01:05:11 How do I get to live here? How is it? I don't know either. I mean, look, you just pay a lot of money is what you do. That's right. That's true. That's absolutely true. You live in Orange County where the cost of living is through the roof.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I assume it is still. It used to be. Is it still? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brother sold a house a couple weeks ago, a house that he had been in for like 20 years. And we compared some notes. And, wow, wow, this was in Texas.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And damn. Yeah. The difference between here or there is shocking. You California people have wrecked us here because we used to have pretty, we're always kind of median on house prices and stuff. And it just cost of living in general. But then during or after the pandemic when the housing market did their little explosion, a ton of you moved here and cranked all that. housing prices up. So now I live in a house that was worth 400, I don't know, six years ago. It's now worth close to 950. Yeah. But if I sold it, everything else. You couldn't afford to move anywhere.
Starting point is 01:06:11 No, I couldn't. Yeah. Unless I went to, you know, Mississippi or something. Or Costa Rica. Like, I have a friend who moved to Costa Rica last year. And like, I've just been watching how how happy she and her husband are. Oh my gosh. Nothing costs anything in Costa Rica. That's great. Yeah, I'm like, why doesn't everybody do this? There must be reasons that everybody doesn't do this. Yeah, no kidding. Well, we're glad to have you here.
Starting point is 01:06:34 We're going to talk about this stuff, and we're going to start with Brian because he is the guy we start with. That's just the way it is. Sure. Let's talk about the stuff. Yeah, this is, so mine is a series. This actually came out way earlier this year, and Tina, I finally got around to getting to it on our list. And I'm glad we did. You're going to hear some people here talking about a,
Starting point is 01:06:56 a mysterious machine that has appeared in this town and what it's doing for people. Excellent. Why I want to play? Here it is. Let's play it. Speaking of, you two tried this morpho machine? Oh, my God. Oh, we were just talking about that.
Starting point is 01:07:11 You want to know what I got? Superstar. Oh. Is that spooky or what? I was legitimately spooked. Not spooky as shit. That is scary. I don't know if you two remember, but I was the first Italian-American goalie in New York Rangers
Starting point is 01:07:26 history and the youngest. Yeah, how would we not remember that? Yeah, it's print it right here on the menu. I was fucking brimming with potential until I suffered a permanent injury to my catching hand while I was deadlifting over 465 pounds. Yeah, yeah, we know the story. How much were you lifting, though?
Starting point is 01:07:41 But if it wasn't for that, I guess I wouldn't have this place, which is also a lifelong dream. Yeah, so I guess is that spooky machine can attest, Superstar can mean a lot of different things, Big D. Dusty won't try it. Really? What? Why not, bro?
Starting point is 01:07:59 You don't have something that you always wanted to be, some secret ambition or talent? Ooh, Dusty is a really good whistler. Among other secret talents. A good whistler? Wow. Kess is a lucky woman. And you, my friend, are a very lucky man.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What do you think? I think I have everything I ever wanted. Maybe he didn't want enough. What? Wow. What? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So first we got to talk about the people you hear in that clip. You don't get to hear him super a whole hell of a lot, but that's Chris O'Dowd from the IT crowd. Basically, he is the Irish Jason Siegel, or maybe Jason Segal is the American Chris O'Dowd. I don't know who came first, but two of them definitely the same cut from the same cloth. And that's kind of why this feels a little bit like ensemble kind of. Comedy-wise, very similar in style to shrinking, which was another Apple TV plus series. You're also hearing Gabriel Dennis from the Black Lady Comedy Show, but one of the most important voices you're hearing there is Josh Sigara, who is, we saw most recently Scott in She-Hulk. He was the friend of Jennifer Walters that had the, you know, that really, really goofy voice.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Oh, I loved him in that. Yes. He was great. Okay. And the more I see him and shows, the more I think he is just like that. That's not a character he's playing. That is what he's actually like. I love what comes out of this.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Is an impossibly attractive human being. Oh, yeah. He really is. Very good looking man. That's what's great about him because he'll do this voice. It's not even a voice he's doing. He'll talk in this way. Yeah, and you'll see his face while he's saying it,
Starting point is 01:09:52 you'll go, this isn't happening in the same universe. Like, how is he doing that? It's crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy. Anyway, so it's telling the story about a little small town where suddenly in the grocery store, something that looks like a big sit-down Star Wars arcade machine appears, but it's called Morpho.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And when you go in there and you give it your fingerprints and your social security number, it tells you your life potential. It spits out a little card, much like Zoltar, that tells you what your life potential is going to be, usually in one or two words. And as you heard Patrick, or I'm sorry, Josh Cigar there said that he got the word superstar.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Somebody else got storyteller. Another person got liar in the town, and the whole town sees this thing, and for the most part, just buys into it completely. And is like, oh, this is what I meant to be. This is who I'm supposed to be and what I'm supposed to do with my life and even goes so far as to completely
Starting point is 01:10:49 switch gears in their life to go for what this little arcade machine has told them their life potential is going to be. And Dusty... So I saw the trailer for this and I wanted to watch it, but are you meant to question whether or not it's supernatural or it's just...
Starting point is 01:11:06 Okay, all right. You are. And it's... I'm trying to think of like what else... What other, um, to say, you know, maybe to compare it to severance in a way of like that weird quirkiness where there's something weird going on in this world, but we don't know exactly what it is. Um, kind of in that, in that line. What was the one with, uh, devs was another one that was kind of, devs. Oh, I love devs. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You just mentioned two shows are my all-time faves. I freaking love that stuff. So, well, and this has that kind of supernatural aspect, but is definitely a lot more. on the comedy side than all of those other things.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Severance was quirky comedy. This is kind of in that same vein. And it's, um, it was developed by, uh, one of the guys who, um, was writer and executive producer for Schitt's Creek. So he's got, uh, it's got some Schitt's Creek kind of small town. The people around the main characters are, are, or could have, could have lived in Schitt's Creek as well as this. It's quirky.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yeah. Very quirky. I like, um, um, Great, great other cast, Patrick Kerr, Damon Gupton, people that you'll recognize when you see them, maybe you don't recognize them by name, but you get something of a, of a resolution, although there is a season two coming, and it's going to definitely go deeper into what's going on with this weird morpho machine. quick watch it's uh you know 10 30 to 40 minute episodes um and uh it's a lot of fun chris doud is i mean the dude steals the show he is fantastic and or chris odow did i say chris just christ down yeah chris oh down when he's in america he gets he drops his o's fine no i don't know yeah did i actually say the name is the big door prize i think i did people in the chat room i might have done a shit out of luck dot com i think he did i didn't think he said it either i don't think i ever said the name of the show it's the big door prize it's on apple i think i TV Plus and renewed for a second season. So you will get a continuation of the story. If you're worried about seeing this mystery show that's kind of got a lot of
Starting point is 01:13:19 layers to it. Yeah, there is nobody in this show, no character in this show that you don't kind of fall in love with, kind of like Schitt's Creek. Well, you have impressed. Go ahead, I was just going to say, you've completely convinced me about a thing I did not and no existed until today. So that's what I was going to say. I'm so impressed by how Apple is putting together these good things and then hiding them and nobody knows.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I had a friend who just suddenly started blogging on Facebook the other day about all the great things on Apple. It's like, she discovered it. Like, it was this thing that she did. What's this severance? Oh, my goodness. You know, like, there's a lot of people out there who they don't pay attention to the Emmys, basically, at all. Yeah. And so they just don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And like, Apple is killing it. And I wish there was more awareness. yeah they're having a they're having a moment they seem to be it's all quality over quantity which is nice they're also although they even had they just had a recent price hike from 699 to 10 but i still think it's absolutely worth it at 10 a month it sure is yeah yeah and there's things in there like you know everyone knows about uh soccer show um ted lasso ted lasso like that's as ubiquitous as you can get but beyond that i don't know how far people have been digging and there's just really good depth there it's really good and Tina and i won't use it as a recommendal because i think i recommend
Starting point is 01:14:36 one of the previous seasons, but we're part of the way through the newest season of the morning show, and it reminds me so much of the newsroom and how much I loved that show, Jeff Daniels and
Starting point is 01:14:51 got a great cast on that. Very similar, and it's like, hey, here's a topic, here's a thing that's going on right now. We're going to talk about it, you know, like we would if we were delivering the news every day, or if we were putting on a morning show every day.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Is that an Aaron Sorken join or no? I can't remember. It isn't, but it feels like it should be. Yeah, I love that style. So I should, I've never gotten into it. I was still mad about the TMS thing, but, um, I know, I know. You've got to get, you've really got to get past that. I want to, I want to argue against the phrase everyone knows about Ted Lassow because
Starting point is 01:15:25 I've just witnessed an acquaintance who subscribed to Apple TV for the first time, started watching things, started talking about them, posting a ton. She still hasn't seen Ted Lassow. To her, it is just some soccer thing. She's not interested in some soccer thing. Really? And I'm telling you, it's because she's not connected to all of the, like, vetting that's going on in the world that's screaming at you. Here are the best shows that everyone should watch.
Starting point is 01:15:54 She doesn't get that. So she's just like, going along, blah, blah, blah. Oh, look, Apple TV. I'm going to want. And she, like, really liked for all mankind. That's great. Oh, that show's so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:03 That's good, too. A new season of that just dropped, too. It's like I could subsist just on, you know, if it weren't for FilmSack and needing to have these other networks, I could probably subsist on what the second time I've used that this show on just Apple TV. Someone got a word of the day calendar. On just Apple TV and Max and not need Hulu or Netflix or Prime or anything like that because there's so much good stuff coming on both of those. I agree. It's a really good combo to have. all right well there you go it's uh called the great big i'm sorry the big door prize
Starting point is 01:16:40 it's on apple tv and uh and it's it's excellent it's heartwarming sweet uh kind of compelling sci-fi supernaturally kind of stuff and it's great all right very nice uh randy let's let's go oh i don't have a clip from you do i do i have a clip yeah i said it too i don't see a randy oh there it is shit it's buried in my email hold on everybody this movie doesn't have any dialogue so there's no clips you know what this movie this movie does have dialogue and i just want to say i captured some of the very beginning of the dialogue and then i went and cut out a bunch of spaces because it's very slow and um it's still like i i it could have been a silent film like i i you know i thinking about it this dialogue is not super super important
Starting point is 01:17:32 But I got you 30 seconds so you can get a feel. All right. Here we go. Let's play it. Whoops. Consider yourself lucky if our paths never cross. Except luck isn't real. Nor is karma.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Or sadly, justice. As much as I'd like to pretend these concepts exist. They just don't. One is born, lives their life. And eventually, One dies. In the meantime, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. To quote, someone.
Starting point is 01:18:13 That sounds kind of killer. What? All right. So tell us about the killer. I'm laughing at myself because I clipped that out to make it way more important than it really was. It just sounds, it's this, all of the dialogue in this movie is super self-important. it's like very very serious but it's not what you're used to with um assassin stories like like there's a lot of movies out there where your assassin is a philosopher and they're just
Starting point is 01:18:44 talking about everything they've learned and all their free time uh this is not that although it is like objectively what what you're what you're meant to see in here right right uh this is the killer this is david fincher's new movie um i i i want to be really, really clear, I am not giving this my highest recommendation. There are all kinds of reasons you might want to not waste, waste your time on this movie. It is violent. It is, uh, it, you know, it is a very simple. This is a extremely simple movie, almost to a point where you start asking, is Fincher trying to make a point about simplicity? Like, the character actually says it. It's kind of like to simplify life, right? Right, right. Um,
Starting point is 01:19:31 But Michael Fastbender is your assassin for hire. He is in a network, as they always are. He has a boss. He has colleagues, kind of. And he has a girlfriend back in Caribbean Island. And things go wrong for him right from the start. And then he proceeds to address all of his connections. It's, like I say, the most straightforward movie I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:20:01 it's it's beautifully shot you could talk about a lot of stuff to talk about this movie and i don't i don't want to like sit here and sack the whole damn thing it's like you could talk about just the music in this movie because it's very carefully crafted what what music you hear and when this character has a thing for the smiths i guess yeah and uh there's just like you could talk about the cinematography this movie is uh is shot lovingly it's beautiful movie to watch. But overall, the thing that I'm trying to say is, it's not really a David Fincher movie. David Fincher has made this thing.
Starting point is 01:20:41 His big cookie cutters are not all over this movie. It actually feels like I spend a lot of the movie going, is he going to go John Wick? Because I hope he doesn't go John Wick. And he never does. So, you know, there's like, it's self-aware, you know, but like John Wick is about the glory of battle and there's really only one piece of combat in this whole movie and it's a real good piece of combat i read i read something that said that the the movie is the best hitman game to film we're ever going to get that isn't based that isn't actually called hitman like it's it
Starting point is 01:21:19 they adhered some of the tonal aspects of it adhere to what that game series especially the last three games did and they can never seem to get a good agent 47 movie so when i heard that I was like, oh, okay, cool. I like, you know, I like stories about hit men and that sort of thing. But what you're describing is a little more, not dour, but I don't know, less. It's a very serious movie. Yeah. But it's not, it's not so serious that it, like, bores you.
Starting point is 01:21:46 There's a lot to take in at all times. The problem with assassin movies is always that you don't get to find out much about the other characters because they all get knocked off. um this movie this movie takes the takes the pleasure of identifying one of them for you and letting her talk yeah and it is a shockingly good sequence it's the it's yeah it's the best uh few minutes in the movie without a doubt all right i'm in it's like i actually got i got to the end of this and it's tilda swinton she's really the only female in the cast i got to the end of that sequence and i just went right back to the beginning of her going into a restaurant
Starting point is 01:22:25 that she oh really you watched it twice and i watched it again because honestly i wanted to i wanted to catch some of the words and phrases i was so busy like i this movie really envelops you in what you're seeing you know yeah um and it's it's like a christopher nolan movie in that way um where it inserts you into his uh you know his feeling at all times to a degree that you start missing whatever else is going on around you. The trailer gave off those vibes. It felt like as Memento era kind of film or whatever. But I love Fincher, so let's go.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I'm in. It will remind you of a lot of stuff. It reminded me of Nolan's insomnia. Of course, it has to remind you of John Wick. And like I say, I love that this movie goes out of its way to not be John Wick. you never find out the name of the main character you know like it's as as non-wick as it can be except this one time he goes and gets into a fight with a guy called the brute and then it's it has a moment of john wickiness i'm all in on that and you both you both saw it you both you both
Starting point is 01:23:42 you both your thumbs up on this one eh yeah yeah and i'm i'm very much with randy it's it's very good and you know right away if you're going to like it or not if you like these kinds of things. And if you don't typically like these kinds of things, you know, violent films, again, I don't want to call it slow either because it's not. It's paste. And if you don't like those sorts of things,
Starting point is 01:24:08 you won't like this. But I think just from knowing our audience, a majority of our audience would like this. All right. Now he can go back to giving me some Bill Trench closure and finish Mine Hunter. Gosh, dang it. What the French?
Starting point is 01:24:21 Wasn't there talk a couple months back that he was considering that? There's some rumblings, yeah, and I'm, I'm, fingers, my fingers have never been so crossed. Like, I love that series so much. Whose Kickstarter do we need to back to make that happen? Exactly. You can't leave Bill Tinch on the bed with a note from his wife and not give me another season. Right. Give us the, the BTKFC killer, whoever he is. Yeah, I need all that stuff to get closed up. So, hurry up. What I want to make sure I say about this movie is that it is not a big thing that you're going,
Starting point is 01:24:51 to remember for all time. It's not a movie that you need to like watch every year for the rest of your life. So like get your expectations about it being this simple thing. And it's very entertaining, but don't like don't worry about it being important. It's not in Fincher's top five. It's and it and it's not meant to be. Right. It's it's a it's a celebration of directing acting script cinematography, weird, weird pop music. Like it's all of that. And it's all of that. stuff without it doesn't have aspirations to be you know zodiac or the social network or my favorite fincher movie is the game like it doesn't even have anything like that in this movie no seven you know there's no sense of a seven in here because seven's like the one everyone
Starting point is 01:25:38 thinks of right that's his big yeah it's it's kind of bloody like seven but really that's um i think that's kind of as far as it gets yeah but even to the degree it's bloody it's a very very measured. It is not like draped in dripping blood. It's like you have bloodiness in spots where it has to be and it's supposed to get your attention and kind of
Starting point is 01:26:01 like shock you a little bit. Mine's fight club and there's there's elements similar elements of fight club in this that I like but yeah not only because it has to have those elements. Did you know that David Fincher's very first direction work and he
Starting point is 01:26:19 we all know we did a ton of music videos that's not that's not a mystery but his first one 1984 rick springfield with bob tell you drop that was his first thing wow amazing that he got hired for alien yeah no kidding right and that's about that's the point that's the point right like in 91 he finished up with george michael and then then alien three happened and then yeah bam all movies yeah did he do that he did that black and white freedom 90 thing with all of the supermodels. Am I thinking of the right thing that he did with George Michael? Freedom. Oh, let's see. He did. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:26:54 Freedom 90. That's it. Yeah. And before that, Madonna's Immaculate Collection video, Express Yourself. Oh, Father, Vogue, all that. Yeah, he had a, he worked with like big shots and then immediately started doing movies and I personally really like Alien 3. I know I'm in the weird group there, but
Starting point is 01:27:11 you're not in the minority on this show, Scott. Nope. I want to say one more thing about the killer. This is a the many, many movies that you've seen in your life, where the whole thing hinges on your main actor, your lead, you're only, really the only character you get to know in the movie. And I want you to know he really does stand up to this. Like I remember the first time watching John Wick, I remember there were people who were like, Keanu isn't, you know, he can't do this. Like he's not going to, you know, he's not going to carry this. But he does. Michael Fastbender absolutely. carries this. You desperately want more of him doing this. I'm just saying that it's not like set up to be
Starting point is 01:27:56 a big series or something. It's just he, you know, he could have gone, it could have all gone wrong at Fastbender holds it all together beautifully. Well, he should get, so now, all right, so he's done this. Get back to Mind Hunter. Get back to Love Death and Robots. Get back to the things that
Starting point is 01:28:12 I love you for these days and let's go. All right. I've got a thing to recommend that is on Hulu. Hulu, and it's a documentary that I just randomly bumped into, thought I would watch. It partly came from art, for some reason on this show, JFK from Oliver Stone comes up a lot. I don't know why, but we're in recommendals. It just comes up. Randy's brought it up a few times.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I have. Because it's, because it's, it's unreliable. It comes up because it's an example of someone telling a history and putting a bunch of conspiracy theory nonsense into it. Yeah, 100%. And it's so well made and so well acted and so well. executed that it pisses me off even more how much dumb shit is thrown in there but it's an amazing film
Starting point is 01:28:56 from all of the technical and artistic points of view and so I just think it's a weird one and it's fun to talk about right well I was thinking about that because I ran into a documentary on Netflix that might be related so I'll play the clip and then we'll talk about it talk about being a gambler this guy had what the Spanish would call
Starting point is 01:29:16 Cohenes You know, there was a breakfast that morning. And I think there were about 2,000 or more people there. And President Kennedy really wanted Jackie to be seen by everybody in Texas. Texas was such an important state. He felt with Jackie along, he would do better. Well, he was right. So that is the voice of one of the secret service people in charge of keeping, in this case,
Starting point is 01:29:46 Jackie Kennedy safe, but you hear from a couple other surviving agents that were on the detail for the president, and then therefore we're all together running around the outside of that car in Dallas when he was shot. And it's not just from their point of view. They go back, basically the whole documentary series, and it's a series called JFK One Day in America, is the name of it. And it's a really good look back because they take all the surviving people. And these are people on their, they're on their last breaths. offense to any of them of their families. But there's no way these people live much longer. They're all very, very old. The one guy from the Secret Service, not him, but another one,
Starting point is 01:30:25 is all hooked up to oxygen for his interview. And, you know, he looks like he's maybe got a week or something. We're at 60 years, right? Yeah, something like 60 years. These guys would all been in their, you know, 40s back then. So they're, they're up there. And I'm really glad they did it because I like when you can get the remaining witnesses, you know, I like this about Ken Burns World War II documentary because it was all as many as they could find people that were still around that were there on D-Day, that were there in Iwo Jima and like all those sorts of things. This is like that. And they speak to everybody from a fellow employee that worked with Oswald at the bookstore at the book depository. I'd never heard of that guy before or even knew anything
Starting point is 01:31:07 about him, but he had all kinds of interesting stuff to say about Oswald. It is not a conspiratorial documentary in any sense. It's not about that at all. It's 100% here are people talking about what they witnessed. There's a famous photo of a lady covering her kid on the lawn after the shots rang out. And it's almost as famous as the subruiter film. You'll know it if you see it, but she's covering this kid. Well, that lady is still alive. She was like in her 30s then. She's in her, I don't know, close to 90 now. And she tells the story about her and why her family was there in the first place. And anyway, it's just a really good historical look back on the events that happened that day
Starting point is 01:31:47 and what people actually saw. And I was very compelled by it. It was really good. Again, it is called JFK One Day in America. It is a short series on Hulu.com. And we're, yeah, I mean, you've reminded me, Randy, that, yeah, one week from today is the 60th anniversary. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Maybe they tried to coincide that. I think they were just trying to hurry up and get these people on before they died. Sure. sure it really it really did have a feeling it's probably a combination of the two yeah it had a feeling of like hurry up these people aren't going to be landless longer we'll take the camera to them whatever you got to do is kind of the right whatever you need yeah yeah it's good though quite good if you're interested in that kind of history and and sort of thing go check it out and all of these will be up on quick tms dot l i they're already there all right they're already there quick recap big door prize on apple tv came from me killer on netflix came from randy and jfk one day in america came from Scott. Nice. I'm going to watch it. I always watch anything that's kind of about Texas, like the Texas I grew up in.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And so I'm definitely going to watch it. Like I, so because my grandfather was a small town mayor, he like knew John Connolly when John Connolly was a governor of Texas. Like this was long before my time. Sure. So my grandfather would, you know, like talk about the assassination of JFK and how, you know, after Connolly's surgery and his recovery that they. went to, you know, the governor's mansion to visit him and this kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:33:16 And so I'm just always really, really fascinated by this stuff. Yeah, I think you like it. There's a lot of focus on Texas, too, in the documentary about why, you know, there was a lot of opposition to Kennedy there. But there was also a really, really heavy support of his views. And so it was harder for the Secret Service and other agencies to suss out what risks were actually there. Like, they get into all that. And whether they should have known something before it happened. It's one guy in Oxygen just basically takes the blame for the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:33:47 He's like, I should have stopped that bullet. It should be me who's dead. And he still has all these regrets. And the dudes like, you know, pushing 100. Well, I haven't watched it yet. But there's also a brand new Lady Bird Johnson documentary on Hulu that I'm right on the cusp of. And maybe I'll let you know next week. Yeah, let us know.
Starting point is 01:34:05 The whole, a whole documentary about Hank Hill's dog. I can't wait to hear it. But she's like she is such a towering. figure in like central Texas and no one else in the world knows about her. And of course, I think she was very, she was circumstantial to this assassination, of course. And like I just, I don't know, it's just strange to me that these are all coming out at the same time. Yeah, it's real good. So go check it out.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I think Brian's right. It probably is to sort of coincide with the anniversary. But I find that stuff fascinating. You might too. So do check it. And all these things we talked about today, that's going to do it. Randy, you know, this has just been fantastic hanging out with you today. I hope that your day is just full of joy and, you know, all sorts of positive repercussions.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I hope that I hope that your day and your million dollar home goes really nice. Yeah, my million dollar home. I paid $3.44 back in 2013, yes. I'm looking forward to talking to you on Saturday about Swiss Army Man. Oh, yeah. I'm actually really looking forward to seeing this movie. Me too, yeah. Having not seen it and now.
Starting point is 01:35:07 I don't even know much about it. I don't either. I know the one thing that I said. said on film sack oh is this the movie with dot dot dot where he's dot dot dot dot and that's all i said all i know all i know is it's the directors of everything everywhere all at once which is kind of compelling so there we go we shall see we'll see you then bye randy i'll hit you up in discord but yeah get me a cover art for it and i'll put in the discord oh yeah i'll do it today i've been trying to do that earlier and i keep forgetting unless
Starting point is 01:35:34 you get i didn't even think about it until just now myself so that is going to do it except for a call. And this call is a final call. The show, it's about Bowie one more time. One more Bowie call. David, David Bowie in his fantastic career. Ziggy Star-duced. Anyway, here's how this caller defines that word or says it.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Hey, Scott and Bryant. This is the one in the Boston area. You might see me online here and there as D-Cam. I'm just calling about the pronunciation of Bowie versus Bowie. I'm in the Boston area, and there is a lot. local bands up in Gloucester. Now that's Gloucester, not Cloucester, but their name is
Starting point is 01:36:19 U-E-A-T-A-Boo-E. And if you're not familiar in the Boston area, at least, when you take a U-Turn, you don't take a U-Turn, you bang a U-E. And that's what their name refers to, U-E at the Bui, and spelled U-S-E-Y at the Bui. So I just thought I'd add my two cents, and that's how we pronounce it around here. Awesome, that's great. Greg, for Walkman, can you confirm? You're in the Boston area.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah, exactly. Have you ever taken the Ui at the buoy? Yeah. I haven't seen him in chat in a while. I hope he's doing good. Anyone seen, is he in there today? Anyone see Greg? Checking on Greg?
Starting point is 01:36:55 You know, I didn't see him in there today. I miss Greg talking to Greg. Yeah, yeah. Make someone check on Greg. Can we get a wellness check on Greg, please? Yeah, yeah. And thank Greg for Walkman. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 01:37:07 That is going to do it for today's show. I would like to say a quick thanks as we head into the mid part of the month to our patrons. It is right smack dab. It's the aides. It's no better time than to think about your patrons and do something. Join a new Patreon if you haven't before. That's right. We're at the hump part of the thing. So hump it and get us, get us a dollar. That's what we need over at patreon.com slash TMS. All those benefits are very lovingly displayed on the site. So you can go just read it and see what's up. That's Patreon.com slash TMS. Why is there a dog under me? Oh, hi, Ripley. Hi, sweet. Oh. Blu-blah.
Starting point is 01:37:43 A different dog, but she'd be happy to puke, too. So, who knows? Oh, yeah. All dogs are happy to puke. Puk and poop. They're into it. Just say the word. They'll do it.
Starting point is 01:37:53 That is going to be it for the show, though. Brian, let's play a song. You get a little something? A little something there. I do. We talked about her a little bit earlier in the show. This one comes from Monica, who's celebrating a birthday today. What?
Starting point is 01:38:05 Let's party. Good Lord. You know what? Both. Happy birthday. Just, you know, because she's turning older. It's fine. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:38:15 And she, poor Monica, our episodes for the last three years have not landed on a show day. I mean, her birthday is not landing on a show day. Our episodes always land on a show day. Sure. Dear Skin and Bones, if you're reading this, it might be my birthday. So time to take inventory. It's been a pretty good year. I have a lovely partner, wonderful friends and family, and I'm part of some fantastic
Starting point is 01:38:39 online communities like this one. Gore is going great, and I even guessed it on one of my favorite podcasts like four times this year, and they haven't told me to never come back yet. Oh, well, they'll get around to it. Yeah, it's just a matter of time. It's fine. Anyway, I believe
Starting point is 01:38:55 I'm entitled to one song for aging a year. Can you please play Gypsy Woman by Stolen gin, ADLR, and different hits. It's such a chill cover, and I'm hoping for a very chill year to come. Love the show, though, even though I'm not Nicole, sign Monica, slash Wicked That's true. She's definitely not Nicole.
Starting point is 01:39:11 That's right. Well, happy birthday, Monica. We love having you be part of the show, the community, the couch parties all the time. And this one, this was a cover that I was unaware of. I knew of the original by Crystal Waters, and I had another cover in my library. But this isn't a song you hear covered a lot. And it's called Gypsy Woman. Sometimes it's called Gypsy Woman, La, La, La, La. Again, it's by Stolen Gin, ADLR, and different hits. And it's going on.
Starting point is 01:39:39 tomorrow. That's fantastic. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new edition of the Thursday show. So be here for TMS tomorrow. Thanks everybody for listening. And we'll see you then. She's homeless, yeah, she's homeless, and she stands there singing for money. I'll know her body's not mine. I'll ask now why, God, why? She's just like you and me. But she's homeless. Yeah, she's homeless.
Starting point is 01:40:56 And she stands and singing for money. You know, La-la-N-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. She's just like you and me And she stares there singing for money Although her body's not mine I ask now why God why
Starting point is 01:42:20 She's just like you and me But she's homeless Yeah she's homeless And she stands there singing for money Yeah, she's so red. Yeah, she's so red. Yeah, she's so red. Yeah, she's lonely.
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