The Morning Stream - TMS 2566: Seat Meat

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

I saw Scotty drawing Santa Claus, streaming on the internet last night. Shit Outta Cards Dot Com. Say Schlitz Slowly. Polygon Scheme. Dear money, I miss you. Please come home. Mango, cucumber, seaweed stuff. Chopsticks on my mind. Stages Of Stupid. Vaseline Milk. Free pavement pizza with fill up. The Untouched Crayon. Literary Tits. Auntie-antimum. The color of dumb. Don't call me Windy with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TMS is brought to you daily by the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS, like Melissa, Nathan Dyer, and Mika Storm. Coming up on TMS, I saw Scotty drawing Santa Claus streaming on the internet last night. Oh, very nice. Shit out of cards.com. Say Schlitz slowly. Polygon scheme. Dear money, I miss you. Please come home. Mango, cucumber, seaweed stuff. Chopsticks on my mind.

Stages. of stupid. Vaseline milk. Gross, free pavement pizza with Philip. The untouched crayon. Literary tits. Anti-antamomim. The color of dumb. Don't call me windy with Wendy and more on this

episode of the morning stream. I'm a nobody. You understand and you can't kill a person with nobody. So why am I afraid? I'm not afraid. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of the boogeyman. Who's the boogeyman?

Man, you figure it out. Assholes. The morning stream. Would you like a closer look? Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for December 7th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Abbott.

Good morning. I was hesitant there. The boogie man. The boogie man. That guy's so weird. Well, you'll hear more from him later in our midsection, but I found this audio of this guy, getting interviewed up in Canada. Very odd, man. Is that what we call it when we break?

We call it our midsection. Let's call it that. Our midsection, I like it. Yes. Playing in the midsection. Why not? Fair enough. We're glad you're here.

This Thursday, which means we kind of end our normal broadcast week. Don't worry. Plenty of weekend content coming, but got a big show for you, including a couple of things I want to mention. here. We've been busy getting Christmas cards out and gifts and things, you know, trying to ship it all, get it early enough that everybody gets their stuff before the holiday. Right before shipping, before shipping basically grants everything to a halt and you say, well, enjoy your gift in May. Yeah. Yeah. And for at least the last 10 years, we have sent a card, sometimes other stuff, to Scott Fletcher's house. Because Scott Fletcher is part of the family, right? Big part of the Frog Pants family. And I just assume the stuff's all. always been getting there. I don't, you know, call and verify that anything got anything. I mean, who calls and says, hey, just want to make sure you got my card. Nobody does that. Nobody does

that. So, and if you're brand new to the show, you're like, who's Scott Fletcher? He's the voice you heard in our intro today, and he does it every day. Yeah. So they reached out and just said, hey, you were talking about cards on skim. Maybe it was here. I think it was skim. And we just, we miss seeing the Johnson cards. And we're like, wait a minute. We've been sending them every every time. Oh, no. Oh, no. So we did a little backtracking. It turns out I had an old ass address that they moved from like 10 years, like a decade ago. Oh, no. Right at the same time we moved, actually, is when they did. And so all this time they've been getting, it's been going to some house that's unrelated to them, you know, their old house. They're not forwarding

whatever their mail and all that. So just a big public apology. Shit out of luck.com, everybody we screwed up and uh fletcher's as of this year you will get a proper uh pack you have a back catalog of cards you're gonna like send them all the cards for the last uh decade i could go print him i guess i hadn't thought of that that'd be funny right give him uh that would be really funny here are the 10 cards we owe you uh thank you for your thank you for your consider the matter settled yeah so shout out to scott and um his lovely wife for their patience Christine, I should say, and their kids

and everybody over there in the Fletcher home it was not on purpose, okay? It was not on purpose. All right. We have some mysteries to deal with. Oh, good. I like a good mystery. You know that unexplained pile of spaghetti in the New Jersey Forest we talked about?

I do, yes. We kind of had some theories and there was an article about and all that. Well, Dave C. in Illinois wrote in, says, Bud and Schlitz. That's the two beers there. years, yep, uh-huh. I like that you almost called one of them what it tastes like.

Yeah, what both of those tastes like. Bud and shits. Yeah. It says in the same vein as the unexplained pile of spaghetti in the forest. A few years back, I was pumping gas into my car and I noticed this fully cooked and sliced pizza on the pavement near the pump.

Another unsolved mystery. Love your show. Dave. Yeah. He sent a picture of this. Let me share it. Oh, really? Oh, you'll let me see the picture.

Is it because my question is, was it in the box or was it just a loose pizza sliced and left on the pavement. It was a loose, perfectly cut, but on the ground in its full circle, not all dishevelled or goofed. Yeah, yeah. It was very weird. Because, you know, if it was in a box, obviously it's like, all right, well, somebody put the box on top of their car while they were pumping gas, they forgot about it,

closed their gas tank, closed the little door, got back in their car drove off, and pizza fell on the ground. This almost has the look of like, hey, Walter White threw this. on your roof levels of yeah see that isn't that great oh my god that's hilarious here chat you guys can see it too

god and it is not a slice out of place nope it looks like it's been there a bit right it's a little crispy in a wrong way like not cooked right well it looks like a Domino's pizza yeah that's true this is exactly

how Domino's brings it to you and leaves it on your floor by the way that's how they do it but what a weird thing to find in the middle of a gas station. It's very weird. Yeah, it is, you know, there is, it doesn't look like it's cut well,

so that's what's keeping it together. I think it probably did fall off out of something or who knows what, but, golly. Crazy. It is crazy. I love that, though. Love it.

So when you guys run into this sort of thing, this is the show to send them into, okay? Oh, yeah, for sure. We want your weird, you know, it's like every time I go, walking. You can tell I haven't walked with a dog in a while because it's cold because I have no stories. That's right. Usually you see some new graffiti on the wall or a person walking down the street passes you and goes, Borgen Schmitz. Yeah, Borgen Schmitz. Yeah, and then I got to come

here and we got to talk about it and figure it out. So, thank you for that. Also got this about the Charlie Brown Christmas song thing we talked about yesterday. Oh, yeah. Cool. Now that is still, you know, there's there's arguments going on. as to whether it should be celebrated as a Christmas song. Hotly debated topic. Yeah, I'm still unsure how I feel about it. Linus and Lucy's song, I still say, not a Christmas song, just happens to be on a Christmas album.

I will say when I hear it, I have a feeling of kind of warm nostalgia toward it. Oh, sure. And I don't, I associate that feeling or similar feelings to the holidays, but I'm not sure I can ascribe that song specifically to Christmas. If I heard it in the spring. Like if you, if it came on during shuffle in July, you wouldn't say, what?

This song, I only listened to it, Christmas time. Yeah, I'd never do that. Never do that. Like, if I heard Winter Wonderland, which doesn't even mention Christmas, any other time of year, I would think Christmas, because Winter Wonderland is so locked in. But this, it just isn't. It just sounds like I want to watch Charlie Brown cartoons. That's what that sounds like to me.

Right. No, Wicked Kitten, that is the song called Christmas Time is here that you're thinking. of and that is absolutely a Christmas song the song we're talking about is the one that goes do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do yeah let's do it the whole thing we're ready apopo style one of oh when in the rest of development when George Michael Jr. or when George Michael the son

is walking with his head hung low and they play that there's a peanut song there and that sounds like the Christmas one where it's like that's the one where it's so they using is that what they're doing is they're using the Christmas Rift they must be yeah they're using the Christmas Rift because that one definitely is the Christmas Rift Brimerica just now getting cut up and saying is Linus and Lucy something like that is the name of it yeah said that at the very beginning here's your red on airlight yeah I don't think he was here for it though no no it's fine Brimica yeah we'll let this one go brymerica.

Yeah. Your vision of America being brymerica is still intact. Okay. Brandon says this about that Charlie Brown business. He says, hello, bot and scry, and I was listening to December 6th episode 2565, and I wanted to add my two cents, not adjusting for inflation. Sorry. About the, he's got a joke every third word about the Charlie Brown theme song, sometimes

being considered a Christmas song. It's probably that way because some people like millennials on down, mostly. only interact with Charlie Brown stuff during the holidays and thus attribute it for that reason. Ho, ho, ho, the show, though, Brandon. And a little football. He put a little football icon. A little football. I think it's the one that Lucy yanked out of the way.

Oh, yeah, duh, of course. Charlie on his back. I wasn't even thinking. I don't know if that's really the case, but... Maybe he's just a fan, you know? He's up there. He might just like football. And that's fine, too. Nothing wrong with that.

Oh, we should check in on your... How's your betting going for the NFL? Oh, good. Let's see here. I've had a really good last five days, $24.35 up since yesterday. Nice. Yesterday was a big day, though. $82.13 up since the fifth. The last day I lost money was December 2nd, $30 down, but I made it up the next day

up $38, $48, and then $4414, up 1191. There's all these fun little numbers. Like, you know, it's never, oh, 10 bucks, 15 bucks, 20 bucks, you know, it's always like, oh, I'm $82 and 13 cents up. It's coming, everything's coming up, Ibit, with your betting. It is. It's doing really well. This is, you know, this technique, it makes total sense because yesterday, the first set of my bets went through. So, like, the first set of bets were 10 bets, I won four and lost six of the 10 bets.

Right. And if all things were even, I'd be in the hole. But because you're betting on above the odds bets, everything evened out. So basically, as long as you lose, you know, if you lose three out of every five bets, then you'll come out even if you win two out of those five bets. Oh, I got you. Because they pay more, they pay enough to make up for the three you lose. Right.

makes sense, yeah. Well, that's great. So there's not, on the NFL side, you're getting close to the wire here, right? Because we're down to the playoffs and we're done. Yeah, it's week 14 currently, and we've got just a couple more weeks of regular season, then we've got the playoffs. But again, you know, such a small percentage of my bets are, that's something I can actually look at. I can tell you of my bets what the majority of my bets are made on, what sport and how I do on them. Let's see. Profit by sport. Basketball, profit on basketball has been $492.81 cents.

Basketball bets way up there. Wow. Hockey, $124.32. Football has been my loss, $118.90 down with football bets. So football bets are way harder. Soccer, 5635, so betting on like English Premier League and La Liga, MMA, $13.88 profit. Nice.

Baseball, I must have snuck in a couple baseball bets before, like, the end of the World Series. I think I started this during the World Series. No, I started after the World Series, so I don't know where this came from, $36 down on those. but basketball close to 500 and hockey um 125 so it's all pro league it's an NBA NHL uh college as well this is college basketball yeah the basketball most of the basketball um now I'd say the basketball bets are probably 50 50 college and NBA okay um yeah for some reason in my head I always think that you can't bet on college ball but that's just the players and schools and stuff can't do it but So profit by league, so my biggest profits are, wow, it's really close.

So of that 500 that I was telling you about for basketball, 250 of that is NBA, 242 of that is NCAA basketball. So it's pretty close to 50-50. But basketball bringing in the wins for you. That's right, exactly. That's great. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah.

Well, there you have it. I'm still loving it, still making money, and I'm still having a blast doing it. And if you need, you know, we've got a topic in the Discord about it. But if you have any questions, just DM me and I'll tell you the deal. Yeah, reach out to Brian. I figured out a really easy way to explain it all. Right. His name in Discord, by the way, is degenerate gambler, Brian Abbott.

It totally is, yes. I've moved on in the Discord from Brian Abbott Moviegoer to Brian Abbott Degenerate Gambler. That's right. It's your new moniker in Braynabler. it uh all right well thank you brandon for that uh here's okay this is one of my favorite things we've that we've done in a while okay yeah we i get this text from an anonymous person a totally anonymous person i love this yeah who says i wish amy's i'll just read the way they wrote it i wish amy saucy book clip that we played yesterday or tuesday uh about tits have been read in the

screaming mario voice you use on film sack that voice is now a part of me if that wild last voice was on medium settings. Please have it maxed out. All right. So I did this person of favor. Oh, no way, really. By the way, to clear it up for everybody listening, especially if you missed Tuesday's episode, the book that Amy was recommending, one of the two books Amy was recommending, it was not about tits. It was about tits in the same way that the movie Die Hard is about packing tape. Oh, man. Die Hard, secretly a packing tape. tape film. It's really a film about pack you tape and limousines. That's what it's

about. I love that idea. That's great. And Coke. You got to have a Coke. Bubby. Give me a Coke. Right. Exactly. So I'm going to play not her book clip in that voice.

Okay. Because I couldn't find that. I could look harder and find it. But that's okay. Because instead, I took their exact message to us and converted it into streaming with Mario voice. So this text will be read in the AI What is that setting called that like can make it more out of control or less out of control?

It says what did it call it? Intensity or stability? Stability. Stability, that's it. Stability. So more unstable. Yeah, we have stability, three settings. Stability, clarity and similarity enhancement and style exaggeration.

I put them all in the red. Just hoping for the best. And it did not disappoint. So here's the clip. Here, 14 seconds, it's your exact text to us, only in the voice you love. Here you go. I wish Amy's saucy book clip about tits had been read in the screaming Mario voice you used on film sack. That voice is now a part of me.

If that wild-ass voice was on medium settings, please try it maxed out. Okay, my favorite part, my favorite part is at the end, there's like an er, and then it quits. Listen. It's maxed out. it sounds like me it sounds like me going it does sound like you a little bit that's weird which voice is that is that the

that's not the one that came from my Tina impersonation no this is just that Mario voice that I use for Mario oh that's right you said the Mario yeah just that same voice and it sometimes it screams it matters what punctuation you use right so if I do exclamation points it's going to do the big loud screaming thing

you only live twice like why I'll show you. I'll do it in real time. Okay, multiple exclamation points on this thing. I'll now generate it and you guys will hear it in real time. So this will take a second. It takes longer when you exaggerate or do this. Eat a pig spot.

That's sound more like someone trying to do Homer. But it just depends. It depends on the mood this thing's in. Honestly, I can't really control it. If I hit generate again, it will try to redo it without any changes. It's just like, it's random every time. So anyway, I'm glad we just had an opportunity to do that.

So thank you, dude, who did not give us your name. I wish you would have. Hey, Brian, how much was, or how did the sushi? Not how much was it. How much sushi did you put in your belly yesterday? Well, so yesterday was, we went to All You Can Eat sushi at this place called Sushi Rama. It's a conveyor belt sushi place.

and there are two different kinds of conveyor belt sushi places. Some of them, you place your order, and then the, I guess your food gets more delivered by bullet train than it does conveyor belt. Convary belt, I guess, is pretty much always the way. The chefs make a bunch of things. They put it out on a conveyor belt. The conveyor belt goes around the restaurant, usually around a bar, you know?

Sure. And then you just take what you want, And then at the end, you pay per plate for however many plates you eat. Right. And the things that I really like about sushi ramen, number one, every plate has a little plastic cloche over it. So nobody's coughing or sneezing or anything like that on the food. It does not, if that cloche gets removed, you pay for that plate. You better take that plate, too.

All right. I've never heard of a cloche. a cloche you know you've seen those like uh when when they smoke uh food they put a little cloche over it oh like a um like a little glass bell oh that's what that's called okay yeah i didn't know that's called a cloche boy i hope i come out like one's all smoky and you pull it it's like yes and who the smoke wafts out of it i believe oh god i hope i'm i hope i'm not talking out of my ass as usual uh i think that's called a cloche anyway so um so they've got those and then the the base

the conveyor belt itself is metallic and refrigerated so these plates cold plates with the sushi on them are going around and they're not like getting warmer the longer the longer it's been around right Weston rights as normal people say cover

cover to me is something totally different Wes we'll talk about that yeah I found a bunch of them they're called Cloches on Amazon like yeah Brian's right these are these are like these little presentation lids or whatever It's like, oh, look at my fancy thing I made under this. Close enough for government work.

Anyway, so I posted photos on threads of me and Tristan. Tristan and I and Tristan's girlfriend, Kay, all did the all you can eat. Tina says, nope, it would be wasted on me. I'm having ramen, so she had a bowl of ramen. But Tristan and I, we wrecked their deal. Like, basically we paid 50 bucks. And when I added up the stack of plates that I'd consumed, it was close to $70. $68 bucks of sushi that I ate.

Each plate, by the way, so their plates are like two nigiri, like two tuna on rice or two slices of a dragon roll or a California roll or a, you know, a spider roll, etc. Right. there's the plates everybody i'm showing in that picture you sent me yeah so 18 you see a stack there of 18 plates and the different colors are different values the most expensive things come on blue plates so i made sure like i didn't let a single uh like if there was a row of blue plates like of all octopus i made sure i grabbed a blue plate like number one i like the stuff that's on there always and i always feel bad when i'm not paying for all you can eat that it's like oh i kind to do on another salmon but

I'm not going to do a salmon so yeah is that his own is that Tristan's own pile of plates next to him too? It is yeah gosh you guys ate a lot of sushi cheese yeah we did oh yeah exactly we we made sure

we made sure to get our money's worth we ended up his and he was somewhere in like the the high 50s 50 to 60 you can barely oh man yeah you can barely see his yeah I just see him peeking out the side there on the left you can see the edges yeah but he he polished off about

18 plates or so himself now you see all those people behind us or behind tristan i was gonna say trucker hat seems to be checking you out while you're taking this photo yeah maybe well the way that this thing the way that this conveyor belt goes obviously one big continuous loop through the restaurant yeah and they seated us at a four top table they've got three four top tables and everything else is bar shoulder to shoulder seating and this conveyor belt winds its way almost like the letter E

through this restaurant right and so the two the top and bottom horizontal parts of the E are all individual seats people sitting shoulder to shoulder around it and then in the middle

you've got the three four top tables booths and then on the other side of that you've got more shoulder to shoulder seating. So 90% of it is shoulder to shoulder. Okay, that makes sense. And you just reach out and grab and, you know? And you just take. And here's the thing.

When they put you right by the kitchen and the stuff that's coming out of the kitchen goes right by you first and you take it, you kind of look at the faces of the people further downstream. Yeah. Who are like, oh, I kind of wanted that dragon roll. but those people took three of them because there are three of them doing all you can eat so they all took a dragon roll and you know it's like you pay your money you take your chances

we didn't ask to get seated there we really got the best seat in the house literally but it's it really is the luck of the draw and I've been on the other side of it I've been in those seats where you're at the end of the

loop and you feel like the only things getting to you are California rolls and mango cucumber seaweed stuff. Not the cream of the crop. Yes, exactly. Oh, man. And Clary, yeah, so there is a thing. With the all you can eat,

they do say everything on the conveyor belt only. But we noticed that a lot of people were saying, hey, can we get some you know they didn't have any eel they had dragon roll on there but they didn't have any regular eel nigiri and so people were ordering some of that

and just having them brought directly to their table and I think they were calling that part of the the all you can eat as well but yeah 90 minutes we were only there we seriously were there for 40 minutes because you sit down and it's like a buffet you immediately

once you're seated you just start you just go there's not they're not going to bring you anything uh else to let you start it's like grab yeah so seat and eat they call that seat neat exactly so you know people only really had uh 30 minutes of us taking all the taking all the good fish before uh the dregs um it sounds so good though ever since you mentioned yesterday i've been wanting sushi i got a good some i did take a video um let me see if i can send it to you i don't know how long it'll take to sun though but uh i put position my phone right next to the conveyor belt.

Tried to do it in a way that you wouldn't get the people sitting, you know, the people's faces, but it was like kind of focused more on the conveyor belt itself. Yeah. But let me know when that comes through. It should come through in your eye message. Okay. I'm watching. I'll keep an eye open here.

It's a fun little video. And is, is it a weird? I see dots, but it's still coming. Okay, it's coming, yeah. Oh, there it is. It came through. Let me pull it down here. And let's pull it up and give it to the folks.

Oh, yeah, turn the audio down. There's just, uh. Oh, it's just, it's just ramble. It's just random. Yeah, there's just. Right, here you go. Do you hear Tristan talking about, uh, somebody getting hit in the head? Yeah, that's always a good time.

There it is. Yeah. All right, we're scrolling. Oh, look at this. Yeah, it's, uh, Oh, it just like, hey, all right. So wait, when they go by with a little card on it, what is that? That's to tell you what's coming after that card.

So, you know, you'll see a thing that says sake, which is salmon. Yeah. And then there'll be like three plates of salmon. Oh, but in most cases, in most cases you see these empty plates. Like you see the thing with the card on it, but nothing after it, which means that somebody's already taken all of the things that were behind. Oh, I see. That's why they're all bungled.

up like this. Okay. Oh man, you're making, I got to go. I got to get me some. Yeah. This place is so much fun.

We found like a couple of them. She looked around and found a couple of, yeah. And the one that we found during the show has the bullet train delivery. So like you can say, all right, well, we'll take the things that are on the conveyor belt,

but boy, I really want this certain kind of role. And then it comes on a separate track, right to you. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. All right. Well, now that you're all hungry for sushi,

uh, now we'll do the news, all right? Because now we've made you hungry and there's nothing to do. Oh, Carter has an update, an update, yes. Update, yes. Yeah, rotating sushi. Yeah, we got to go. Can we go?

All right, we're going. I'm taking my Tristan Age daughter to the rotating sushi place. Excellent, excellent. See how well you guys can compete with the masters. See how the prices are. I assume it's still all you can eat, or you have an option. to do that, I hope. Yeah, this was a special night.

It was a charity night for a local thing called Urban Peak. And you paid what, 50, you said? 50 bucks per person, yeah. It's not too bad. Well, we'll have to look into it. Let's jump to the news and see what's going on in there. There's important information just waiting to be reported. Must be related.

Really important stuff. Time for the news brought to you by. brought you by Coverville. Yeah, it's happening today. And it's, uh, in honor of Shane McGowan. It's going to be covers of and by the Pogues. So all of your favorites. And of course, that Christmas song that you know on me be playing anyway. Um, covers of things like Neil Diamond's cracklin Rosie and Louis Armstrong's. What a wonderful world with, with Shane McGowan and Nick Cave of all people. Um, fairy tale of New York, of course. But he also does a great cover of a little drummer boy. the David Bowie Bing Crosby version that's really, really good. Honky Tonk women. And then, of course, all your favorites like Rainy Night and Soho,

Tuesday morning, Lullaby of London, the sunny side of the street, and so much more. Today at noon. Noon, but Brian, you have your classes. I know, but the classes are getting recorded, so I'm going to watch them afterwards. So that'll be today.

Terrible loss of the great Irish singer. who had personality to spare Shane McGowan today, Twitch.tv.tv slash Coverville. He hung out with everybody. He did. Freaking, who was it? Oh, I saw some photos of Bruce Springsteen visiting him while he was sick.

Oh, really? Went all the way to Ireland just to hang out and see him and talk to him one more time. Like, can you imagine having that level of, you know, admiration? Such a charismatic guy, but boy, he had his problems, unfortunately. Had his vices. His vices, yeah. Let's get to this story about a Vietnamese man experiencing severe headaches for five months,

finally discovered what was wrong. Chopsticks in his brain. Of course. Oh, man. 35-year-old dude Vietnam who experienced severe headaches for five months was shocked to discover a pair of chopsticks lodged in his skull.

I have a feeling he knows how they got in there, but whatever. Yeah, I mean, how do you and how do you get both of them, right? Yeah, something funky about it. So they found it through a CT scan. They revealed tension, pneumonia cephalis, a very rare and potentially life-threatening condition caused by increased in cranial pressure.

Doctors led by Dr. Noonian Van Man. That's great. Noonan Van Man? Oh, man, that's a great name. Found that the source of the tissue was a pair of chopsticks. I guess that's pronounced a wind. Is it when? I never got right.

Chopsics that had penetrated his nose and entered his brain. A trip down memory lane. The unnamed patient recalled getting involved in a fight five months earlier when he was drinking. Though his memory was hazy, he vaguely remembers being stabbed in the face, possibly with the chopsticks. Yeah, but if they went all the way up in there. Yeah. This just seems. It does.

I mean, it's like, so basically like went up his nose into his brain. Yeah, and then not know For five months And he's still And he went to the hospital They said So maybe it Maybe it poked the part of the brain

That remembers when your chopsticks got shoved in That's right Just though the irony Of what happened there Yeah, it's very weird Regardless the patient's suspected The utensils were lodged in his nose During a fight and had remained

Undiscovered in his skull The condition currently is Favorably Fortunately, doctors successfully Remove the chopsticks through endoscopy surgery and sealed a fistula in his brain. Nobody wants a fistula in your brain. No.

Patient is reported in a stable condition awaiting discharge from the hospital. So he looks like he's going to be okay, but don't let that guy near any place that has chopsticks. Okay. So here's a genuine question. I know if you end it with a why, it's endoscopy. But endoscopy, I don't think it's endoscopic. Endoscopic. That's not right.

That doesn't make sense. Do you pronounce it endoscopic or endoscopic surgery? I would say scopic, but I don't know if I'm right. Endoscopic. Oh, speaking of which, Mike Petulik, wonderful member of the Tadpool, always sending us cool stuff. Yes. Sent me an endoscopy camera.

Oh, good. Good. Here it is. Would you plug into your phone, basically? Yeah, you plug it into your phone, although I'm trying to figure out a way to get it to work on my computer because I want to show people live and I can capture it. You don't. Have you already done it? Because you don't. You want to watch that first and say, oh, my God, I never want to see this again.

Well, I never want to see. I'm not going to show any close-up parts of me, but like this premium saltine cracker. What does it look like when you're way up next to it, your little camera hole? And this thing, it's like one of those where Sam Fisher in, what those games called? Shit. Anyway, would slide these under doors to spy on people. It's one of those because you can see it all around the room. It's not just for close-ups. isn't that cool though that is really cool yeah

put that right here yeah it's like the one I mean like the one I have basically where you can do the like how we are using it to fish wires down through the walls yeah I need to use it to figure out where the pipe

vibration noise is coming from oh yeah that would work for that wouldn't it yeah totally would work we noticed it it's really calm down and we don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing it feels like

you know electrical thing and plumbing and stuff like that in the house doesn't ever heal itself. So it gets worse, but I'm wondering, I'm worried that there's some part of the basement that we're not thinking about where it's just filling up with water and we don't know. That antiantum or how do you say it, the Wolverine metal in your house. Oh, Adamantium? Yeah, it's healing. It's healing.

Oh, I see. It was like, we don't have any antimantium in our basin that I'm aware of. What are you talking about? Yes, right. I hope that it's nothing, and then maybe it was just a shift. You know, sometimes houses have a little shift, and then they settle. Maybe it's that. By the way, actually, Scott, the adamantium had nothing to do with Wolverine's healing properties.

That was his mutant power. That's right. And it was what made it able for them to lace his bones with adamantium. That's true. That is actually 100% true what you've just said. I mean, it's a fictional character, but it's still true. Yes, it's as true as things can get, at least until the retcon. That's right, or the reboot.

Let's do a story about liquid death. You know, the water-canned water people. I do. I love that stuff. Thanks to you people talking to trying it to trying it. I love it. Yeah, it's very good. Liquid Death rebrands a drink, though, from Armless Palmer, they called it. It was basically an Arnie Palmer.

Right. Ice tea and lemonade mix. Exactly. I love those. To dead billionaire after golf legend, the state threatens to sue. So the Arnold Palmer estate was going to sue him for use. I don't think they should do that. No one's associating this.

We get it. It's fine. Well, why? I mean, I think Dead Billionaire is funnier. Because Armless Palmer, you're really just playing off the word Arnold. And it's not like Arnold Palmer didn't have arms. He was a, you know, he was a golfer. He had two arms, and he played golf with those two arms, and he was very good at it.

so armless never felt like as funny a joke as now dead billionaire is way funnier it is but i don't know arnold palmer wasn't a billionaire so what are they referring to are they referring to isn't he i would think i would think uh palmer no way billions millionaire sure i can't imagine that i mean how much money is he made just off of the uh the the tea and lemonade mixed uh royalties alone I'm done. If you mix, if you mix tea and lemonade, like you go to the fast food place and they've got to serve yourself and you mix an Arnold Palmer, don't you pay royalties for, to the Arnold Palmer estate? You probably do. Yeah, you're using his name. That's a good point. All the beverage money rolling in all the time. I don't know. Yeah, 700 million is Arnold Palmer's net worth. So, pretty close to a billion. Dead dead, dead millionaire, but not dead billionaire. Yeah. So I just don't, and they don't really get into why they called it.

Oh, no, I take that back. At the time of his passing, Forbes estimated his inflation-adjusted career earnings total to be $1.3 billion. Oh, well, then I take it back. But that's adjusted for inflation. So that's a... Sure. That's an extra $300,000 right there in inflation. Yeah.

Wait. Not $300,000. $300 million. $300 million. Arnold Palmer still earns $40 million annually, I guess, because of the PGA tour using his... using his name or something likeness or something like that. 40 million. Yeah.

Just for... I don't understand. I didn't... I'm not going through the article. I just looked at the headlines, so it could be total bullshit. His kids know what they're doing, man. They know how to squeeze every drop out of that lemon.

He also gets a lot of money through Arizona tea, the Arizona drink company, because they have a line of beverages named after him. And they do have to pay the royalties to the state. And those have his face on them as well. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So there's likeness and everything. Yeah, that's what they have to for that. And big signature on the side. It's got his signature on there. Right. That's right. Yes. They make a light version. It's not fully sugar-free, but it's a lighter version. That's very good.

And it's good, huh? All right. I recommend it. It's not bad. All right. Here's an interesting one. The UK. Zoe, this is for you if you're in the chat there. The UK bans two Toyota advertisements, or as they call them over there, adverts. because that's what they do. We either say ad or advertisements. They have decided to go right in the middle. Right in the middle. And you know what?

That feels like it's a shortening that I can get behind. I can also get behind it, although I cannot get behind these cars because they're not advertising them, so I won't know they exist. So you can't get behind them. The reason they banned them, they say, is because they were promoting off-road driving.

If it sounds weird, well, give us a sec. Ads for the Toyota, Hylix, SUV. I don't think the Helix or Hylix is available here. I think it's a... Yeah, that's definitely a model that's not local. And that happens a lot, right? Weird-named stuff in other countries. And weird makes and stuff.

Like, when we were in Ireland, we kept seeing a whole bunch of weird car symbols that were like, oh, well, there's a Honda or there's a Toyota, but then there's this weird, looks like a snake carrying a trident or something that we couldn't figure out. Yeah, off-brand foreign car makers. I kind of like it when I see those. totally yeah yeah because you forget that that exists right like there's for sure not everything is ford toyota and you know whatever um let's see uh they banned these ads because the the commercial showed the vehicles being driven over natural terrain they say that encourages off road driving

regardless of the environmental impact therefore they're banning them seems a little harsh but anyway the facebook video shows a number of vehicles traveling in unison across a wide open plain with mountains on either side over a riverbed before joining a tarmac road. Voiceover says one of nature's true spectacles and Toyota Helix born to Rome before a shot

showing the car parked in a rocky natural environment. That was enough for them to pull them and you can no longer advertise them is off road. I mean I respect a country or region or a government's willingness to try to try

to preserve their natural environments. I'm into it. That's great. Right, right. I don't think people see Toyota ads and go, maybe I'm underestimating the British, but I just don't know how they see that and go, you know what I'm going to do.

Yeah. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell, you know, I don't know why they think that that's a thing, but I think I still, I think that, you know, you're very good at, at knowing how dumb people can be

and how far they'll take something, but I still feel like you give people far too much credit. The general populace. You know what it is? It's a numbers problem because I know that the majority of people aren't this stupid. Yeah. But I always, I don't give enough credit to the minority of people who are that stupid. And when you say that with a world full of 8 billion people,

the minority is still a very significant in the millions. It's still a very significant number. And I feel like that minority might be like, yeah, 49%. Like it's a minority, but it's not a big minority. It's not like a, you know, we're not talking about 10% or 20%. I think we're talking about maybe, you know, maybe a significant close to half kind of portion. I see so much. Half seems like a lot.

Well, all right, maybe it is. But I swear to God, every time I drive, every time I'm on the road doing lift, no matter what, no matter where I am, if I'm in a part of the street or a part of the highway that is, you know, has told me via several signs that this lane exits at the next exit, this is a right turn, like this lane will exit only, always, two or three cars in front of me don't realize it until they're on the ramp and they realize, oh, I need to get back on the highway. highway. And so they cross over the solid white lines, sometimes over the grass median between them to get back on the highway. And it nearly caused an accident with the people in the correct lane. It's, it's, uh, you know, I, maybe I just see, I just see the, the worst of humanity out on the roads. And so many people just running red lights and running, uh, uh, gated exits or, uh, or, uh, entrance ramps, not gated, where they call that. Or they maybe call them gated. But the ones where they like, you know, two cars per green light, people go, whatever, four cars, I think. Yeah. I waited. I'm going.

I see a lot of dumbness in those things for sure. Yeah. Every time I pull up to one, I'm like, all right, everybody. We live in a society. Let's do this right. Oh, yeah. Oh, and it's like always, it's always the person at the front of the left turn lane who is doing something on their phone and don't notice the arrow until it turns yellow and they make it through. And there's nothing, nothing that gets under my cheese like that.

Well, what? To use a, to use a Scott phrase. Well, let me ask you this. Is it possible? So I'm, I'm going to go ahead and say, I think, at least, there's at least 20% who are frightfully stupid. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, definitely there are stages.

They're different levels. But then there's like, when you really start digging down, 50% of that 20%? Yeah. Pure psychotics, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Like, if you're thinking about this in the Photoshop gradient creator, it's not zero and 100 green to red. It's, we slide the red part of the slider in about 10% or 15%, but there's still that gradient happening in the middle.

But then there's that last chunk that is not a gradient at all. No, it's just dark, dark purple nightmare. Exactly. Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. Whatever the color of dumb is, it is that. Let's give a, let's give dumb a color. Ooh, uh, what do we like for that? Uh, that yellow green, um, thing that nobody wants to use for anything.

It's like a, uh, you know, it's like, uh, it's the color of sick. Oh, yeah, the, uh, what is that called? That's called, uh, not gold. It's the, it's usually the untouched crayon in the box. Yeah, it's the crayon. nobody wants, but it is like a puke green. I don't know what that is. Claire says lime, but I don't think lime's bad.

Lyme's all right. Yeah, no, lime. Lime is good. Lime's usually more green. What's the color of your grandma's like refrigerator range combo back in the day? Oh, well, that's avocado green. So that's a different... That's pretty bad. That was pretty bad, though, yeah. Yeah, that's kind of stupid.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what... It's almost like you have to have two really poorly matched colors and call that the stupid colors. It's some combo. It's like, give me blue, or no, what's just, what's an ugly combo that doesn't have any harmony? Oh, uh, I can't think it. Like, brown and anything. Yeah, brown, that's good.

There you go. Brown and blue. That's a horrible look. It's a horrible combo, yes. That's for dumb people. Brown blue, brown. Yeah. I guess we have to be careful with brown.

Making sure I'm not wearing a, uh, because I'm wearing my same sex and Mary, uh, Mary, uh, blueish teal shirt here. and uh that would have been funny it would be great if it was brown and blue I would like to be hilarious he hilarious yeah we would have really bitten the thing that time

yeah here we go right here is the look at that can I copy that image let's see right now in our discord let's see what you got here's somebody who's selling uh 10 green yellow crayola crayons untouched on Etsy

you know why because every time I buy a box of crayons, these seem to be untouched. There should be no other reason you have this many of this one color than if you just never use them in the boxes you own. That's right. Right? Because it's not like Crayola sells this by itself.

No, no, it's basically, it's Homer telling Marge that they need more neapolin ice cream because he does want to eat the strawberry. I love that episode. Yeah. It's such a great line. yeah they're like oh no chocolate oh no chocolate

Marge we need more Neapolitan ice cream I feel like it pretty pretty well captured how I treat Neapolitan ice cream I always ate the chocolate and didn't care for the rest you didn't do a scoop right across

to get all of them huh? I'd like strawberry but I think it's the vanilla I'm opposed to I don't like vanilla okay never really well unless it's like amazing vanilla ice cream like handcrafted

you know fancy whatever I like that. But if it's just like the big white tub you buy at the grocery store, that's the worst ice cream. So bad. That was always the thing of the family get together. It's like, hey, we're getting together for July 4th, everybody. I'll bring ice cream.

And then they bring these like $2 tubs of ice cream that just tastes like, I don't know, Vaseline milk or something. That's so not good. Usually it's a whole brand thing. I stay away from, oh, I can't remember the name of that. the like the the the the store brand um yeah it's usually store broger yeah like croger brand they're the worst yeah it's the worst go blue bunny go what is it not is it ooties or edie's oh there's a there's like a really good uh three letter brand uh dryers and briars you can't

go wrong with either of those either of the or either of the iers are good either of the iers and I like Oh crap The name of it escapes me Oh there's a place here Locally it's an ice cream shop But it's called Brookers Or Bookers, Brookers I think

And everything's themed like Founding Fathers stuff 1700s like all that And so when you go in you order like I want the John Adams And the John Adams is like Peanut Butter, Chocolate, something Oh nice

That's good And the poor kids that work there, have to dress up like they're in the 1700s. I kind of feel bad for them. That's really funny. Oh, I love it. I want to go there. But their ice cream is amazing and their vanilla is like killer. It's so good. We have a local one too called Little Man Ice Cream. And it's so good that local shops put signs in their window saying we have Little Man Ice Cream. Like it's a restaurant, but they want you to know that eat your food, fine, but don't forget for dessert. We've got Little Man ice cream. It's kind of what they're saying.

It's a founded by a little tiny man, little guy. Well, I don't know what the origin of the name is, but their flagship location is a giant, one of those giant metal milk cartons. Or not cartons, but milk containers, like a milk, oh, God. Oh, like the old school, like a metal milk container. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I can't think what those things are called. But anyway, it's a giant one of those, and they basically sell. sell, it's like a walk-up stand in the bottom of it where they sell ice cream.

That sounds awesome. It's incredible. And then they added a second location on Colfax. I took Barry and Wren to that one. And it's a, it is the Willy Wonka shop. Like you got a window into where they're making the ice cream. And then they've got a system on the ceiling, like a pulley conveyor belty kind of system where they hook the ice cream up and send it across to the place where they, to the place

where they scoop it up for you. Yeah. And the big slide in the middle of it so he could walk you up some stairs and then slide down the slide. They have any green and orange tiny people seeing as they came in the end? None that I've seen, but there is a part of the kitchen that we're not able to see. So they might be in there. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Tilemook, I like too. Absolutely. Oh, man. And I don't remember the place they took me in Columbus, but it was amazing. I don't remember the name. Someone took me down. All right. That is going to do it for today's news.

we're going to take a break when we come back my sister Wendy will be here we've got an email to go through and we're going to talk a bit about that it's also pretty timely for this time of year I think you know oh good everyone's showering each other with gifts and you know not really

thinking too much about what people really want we just sort of want to just give them shit well maybe that'll make us think a little bit we'll see after that though who knows what'll be after that well we just know there's a song here so Brian what are we doing sure this is Molly O'Leary and you can probably tell by their name

that they're from Mexico. They got a brand new album called Marigold, which is coming out February 23rd, 2024. They're an incredible singer-songwriter, and this is the first single from their album. Here is Molly O'Leary

and the title track, Marigold. riding bikes down by the ocean everything's in slow motion everything's in slow motion Flying high into a false sky I don't ever want to say goodbye I bet God looks just like you Your face is your heart A philosopher's truth Single line tattoos

Ryan's loss, a faded bruise. Marry, Maricopo, do you know, do you know, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Maricopa, oh, I love you so, I love you so, I love you so. Your heart shivers in ice. Christmas and birthdays make you cry. Your father's death and unsolved a crime. Tears don't fade with a passing of time. My only purpose is to hold you.

When you're red, yellow, green and blue, it's true the snow, keep coming now. I'll always be B-A-R-A-Round. Married girls, do you know? Miracle I love your soul I love you so I love you so

to cry baby cry In a huddle of mud and red wine And night will turn into a sunrise In your golden eyes Marygo Do you know Do you know

Merry a girl My soul I live in the soul I live in the soul Mary goes Do you know me? Do you know Oh, oh, wow.

Married a girl Oh, but you're so I'm going to love so Mary go Oh, do you know

to you know oh I love you, I love you so, I'll love you so. I'm getting out of here. I'm going back to Waterloo where the vampires hang out. And I'm going to wear my sunglasses at night. You know why? Because women have short skirts and then they feel violated when I look at them.

Why? Because I have sunglasses. is on and I'm weird. To eat things and to make a billy goat puke. And we return. Tell me who that was one more time. Man, that voice, those audio clips you're playing. That guy sounds horrible.

That is Marigold by Molly O'Leary. Check out their album coming out in early 2024. That is the title track in early, single from the album. Very, very nice. Yes. All right, let's call my sister, Wendy. Let's call her Wendy. Let's call her Wendy. I mean, that's her name, so I feel like that is a Wendy with an eye. Name you can call her as Wendy. I agree. And it sounds the same whether it's an eye or a why. It doesn't really matter. Wendy. Wendy. I'll explain the situation to Wendy. Don't worry. Oh, hello, Wendy. How are you? Do you ever get called? Oh, I don't hear. Hello?

When I? Is she changing her mic? Probably. Oh, hello. Are you back? Hello, I'm here. Oh, you're here. That was weird.

We hear you now. Do you hear us? Okay. Sorry. Uh-huh. Yeah? Oh, good. Oh, good.

You know, you thought that edible was just a regular gummy and now you're learning the hard way. But anyway, it's good to have you here. Did you, so when, if somebody says, windy versus Wendy, do you get irritated? is it? Nobody ever says Windy. Yeah, because they can tell the eyes at the end and not in the middle. I feel like Dad used to say Windy. 100%. He never once spelled

my name right and called me Wendy. Yeah. Oh, did he never spell it right either? Yeah, he spelled it. I have a couple of samples of his writing. He was not a big writer, but he wrote my name W-I-N-D-Y once. Oh, really? Okay, so he really did spell it and pronounce it Windy.

Yeah. I bet he secretly wished that was my name, and And mom wouldn't let him. And that was his past. The song by the association, is that, that's windy, though, right? That is windy. Everybody knows it's windy. I don't know.

It's kind of go both ways. Wendy, isn't it? I don't know. I thought it was windy. I don't know. I'm taking a look right now. I mean, we had the internet. Yeah.

It'd be amazing if we had the internet. Can you imagine life with the internet? Windy is correct. The song is called windy, not Wendy. And everyone knows it's windy. Oh. Is it just a song about the weather? I always thought.

about a woman. Oh my god. Now I don't know what to think. They even have that episode of Breaking Bad. You got Wendy the hooker lady, and they sing that song. That song is playing. Do they? Yeah, and it's in my head, they have a little montage of her doing some dirty work for Todd or whoever. Who's speaking out from under a stairway calling a name that's lighter than air?

I saw them live, believe it or not. I actually saw the association live. Oh, my gosh, dude. I write that down and never forget. All right. Wendy, it's good to have you here. As always, we've been back and forth a little bit on, we were going to do a, we were going to start a series or a possible series on the topic of, I already forgot what you told me yesterday. Objectification. Objectification. I just need a launching pad. So someone please send us email. So I wanted to give people opportunity. How do you want that? What's the, what's the context we want? Somebody who feels like they've been or has been objectified or has caught. themselves objectifying somebody like that yes okay yes because there's a lot of really interesting new research on some of this behavior and uh and what it actually does to us and how we treat

others and it has you know major ramifications when it comes to like domestic violence stuff and some wild outcomes like the more um someone has seen their partner as an object versus an animal, right? We believe animals can feel pain. And so there is a different treatment than if you think something is an object because you don't think objects have pain. And in fact, these domestic violence abusers have milder sentences in some cases because of objectification. It's wild. Anyway, so there's a lot of interesting stuff around it. And I just need to not lecture everyone for 40 minutes. So I'd like someone if they would. Maybe it's, there and even this like I would pose for you guys like when have you ever felt like an object before

have you ever had that experience and and here's a great way to think about this is how you then internalize your own feelings of how you treat yourself right do you treat yourself like an object sometimes okay um and then you know I'm getting to the natigritty of it and what our brain's doing but I would just love if someone gave me a little all right we'll we'll prepare for that right I'll be thinking about our end of it, and we'll get something going. I'm sure somebody will write it in about this. I mean, even if they don't, I have this example. I was thinking about the other day where every time I see an AI bro talking about some new image generation thing and how stoked they are about it, this is a game changer and all that kind of talk, it's always

a hot chick. Yeah. I don't mean the person saying it. I mean, the image they're generating is always some half-naked, perfect, non-human, but very pretty girl that now, you know, talk about objectification like it's never like here's a car in the way i think it'd look cool or it's never any of that it's always a girl might be a car but there's a hot chick on top of yeah and it's always a girl who looks just a little too young in my opinion it's always just a little weird so anyway we can talk about it's like you know there's so much of that in video games and stuff it's like you know there's so much of that in video gaming for sure yeah well and you're you're you're leaning into the the thing that we'll we'll go into but just how that then

affects everyone. It's like that exact thing, the game changer is literally changing the game of how humans respond to one another in some interesting ways. So yeah, we'll get into it. All right, we'll do that. But today we're not doing that. Today, instead we're going to talk a little bit about material. This is Christmas time, everyone.

This was what was motivating about this. I was like, oh. That's what the Peanuts characters told us. Christmas time is here. That's right. It's here. Christmas time is really here. That's how that song goes.

so we're going to read an email from someone whose name we're not going to read but it is all about material possessions and maybe a little commercialism but also just about you know being a material boy or girl in this world okay think Madonna but less ironic or less on the nose anyway dear Wendy and the boys it starts recently I've been grappling with concerns about my growing attachment to material possessions I've noticed that my self-worth is often tied to the things I own, and the pursuit of acquiring more and more has become a growing source of false or fleeting satisfaction.

It seems to be getting worse. I'm almost sneezed. I don't want to sneeze. It's okay. Feel free to if you need to. It was one of those. We've already told us, so just do it. I feel like it's going to happen, but then it doesn't.

Look at a light. I hate those. Recently, oh, does that work for you? Because Kim did this to the kids when they would sneeze. She'd click her fingernails in their face. and they would not sneeze. To make them look up. Yeah.

It was weird. Anyway, recently I found myself in a complete panic at the thought of selling a vintage item, which I purchased years ago with the intent to sell for a profit later, but I can't seem to let go of it. The anxiety and weird levels of attachment I feel are overwhelming, and it made me realize I might be too attached to the material things that I own. I've unfortunately always associated these possessions with my sense of self-worth, and parting with them feels like losing a piece of my identity.

How can I navigate this emotional attachment to material goods and detach my self-worth from the things I own? Any advice or insights you could share would mean a lot to me, and I'm sure it could help others who might be experiencing something similar, thanks, someone named Jay. Then there's a P.S. I know Wendy likes more context, so here's a few things. I'm a 35-year-old, single white male who grew up in a kind of normal but kind of poor family. I recently moved across the country for a great job. I have plenty of money and don't need all the things, but I love collecting high. and items like watches shoes wine games and books my family is not like me in any way sorry in this way at all they live modestly uh but do not have a lot of junk and a garbage sorry and a garage they could never park in so there's that they do have a lot of junk and a garage they could never park oh i thought he was saying he did okay thank you for the clarification yeah um i have a feeling that some of that might be oh for sure like to tear it down that's a yeah

yeah so i'm glad he added the extra stuff. Always give us PSs everybody if you want, you know, if you really want the context to help our conversation. And my, my guess is that it's not a, obviously it's not a genetic thing. It's not a hereditary thing that's passed down. But it's a thing, it's a value that your parents probably instill on you that, oh, don't waste anything. If you throw it out, you're wasting it. And you better save it because you never know when you're going to need it. Yeah, it could be some of that going on. Dad did this with us. I do way too much of that myself. So, so this, I want everyone to think about themselves.

as we talk about this. Do every day. Because, that's all you do is think about yourself. It's because this is so universal, especially, and the underlying reasons are pretty universal too. I don't know if you guys have seen this, I don't know, it's a thing, a post, a meme, whatever. But it was like, why are millennials so obsessed with minimalism?

And it's all these pictures of, well, this is what their parents and grandparents' houses look like. And they are so much. crap in those things. And here's the thing. So you have just within context of different eras of, you know, sort of asset accumulation at different times, right? Like when we bought our house in, you know, Salt Lake City, just outside, you know, is the house is built in the fouries just after, you know, during the war and just after the war, there was one closet. And it fit maybe a couple pairs of shoes and a few jackets. And that is all the space you needed then,

apparently for your things and right and it was like whoa how did they live like that well everyone live like that that's how many goods were available and that's what you did right um but you take folks who went through some some real um desperate times and they save everything and they keep everything and they have everything out you know um i i went to it recently to an estate sale and you know everything in that house this family thought was going to be worth so much money one day. And they were like plates that had a, I don't know, a painting on it or like a set of pennies or whatever. Whatever they were sold as this is an investment in your future, you know. And that they're being sold for $1 at a, you know,

an estate sale. And in fact, no one probably really was ever going to buy them. And so it's a bit of that like we have this built into us. And we come from people. And we come from people. who didn't have a bunch at a point in their life. And then we're also humans who have for a long time just really needed that stick to help build the door to our cave. You know, like we're going to accumulate. Our brains are going to give us dopamine when we accumulate something because it's going to mean survival or success or whatever, right? And that leads up, excuse me, all the way up till, you know, this is status and people think I'm cool because I'm wearing this brand or I drive this car, those kinds of things, right? So long history, your own family history matters.

So I appreciated a little extra with family history. And now it seems kind of a little obvious version of this, but we all have our version of this. So you may be hearing this like, well, I grew up wealthy and I just don't care about things. And you're like, well, that's the opposite reaction because it was never sort of felt scarce to you. So scarcity is one of our just innate survival biases in our brain to see things as scarce, as resources as scarce so we will collect and gather and have so we can survive, right?

Back in the day it was we're all out of meat or the berries are gone or whatever it was we had to survive on and so hoarding that for the winter made sense and getting as much of it as you could and being competitive about who gets it like all those things

helped you survive and so why would we expect that to disappear yeah exactly. I mean I'm not looking at your camera Scott but I'm guessing there's a lot of things around you Oh, you should see Brian's camera, but yeah, I got a bunch of things. Hey, no. She's talking about you first. Yeah, let's talk about, let's start with me.

But yeah, no, there are. There's, there's so much crap I want to get rid of. And I always, then when I go to do it, I look at it and go, oh, but I really like that. Yeah. See, now my situation, though, is that's just all I have right behind me. The rest of the basement, sparse and empty. Minimalist. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, same here. Nothing past here. It's nothing past where the camera can see. Yeah. All right. So, so let's talk about actually. the things themselves. This is actually related to objectification a little bit. This is what

it got me thinking of, you know, how we treat people as objects is a whole different episode, right? But how we treat objects as people, right? So they don't have human capacity, right? Objects do not. They're inanimate, right? But we relate to them, sometimes like they're people. So let me give you some examples. Have you ever named your car? Yes. Have you ever patted the hood when it got you somewhere safely. So far so, yeah. Anthropomorphized your things or your animals or your tools or your machines, right? So humans need human connection.

And so we find a way to meet this need if there are no other humans around. So think of Tong Panks with the old volleyball, right? Yeah. Were you all not so devastated when Wilson? Oh, yeah. Flooded away, absolutely. So how did that happen? That happened because we imbue onto objects, characteristics that, of course, then, you know, we bond to or, you know, they do something for us.

So there's bonding there. Yeah. So it just happens. You know, none of us are thinking too much about this, right? But let's take a couple studies that you guys might find interesting. Okay. So this was 2015, took a big group of children. and did this,

like a computer game, I think it was a computer game. But it was fixed. Of course, it's always fixed. Okay. So experimenters, what they did was they arranged

so the kids would win one game and then they would lose the other game. Okay. And then after, and then they would let them win again just so they could not be crying on their way out of the door, I guess.

So they won one, lost one, one, one. So after winning and losing, the researchers basically, you know, asked, Would they be willing to lend their favorite item?

Maybe it was their favorite shirt or toy or something. Would they be willing to lend it to another child for one night? Yeah. Okay. So I just wanted to see if there was any injury, like losing would be creating an injury. Right. And a social context or just like they feel bad about their sense of self or something. What that would do to their attachment to a possession, okay?

Any guesses? What happened? I'm guessing that if they lost, they were more likely to kind of cling to the things that were theirs and be less likely to share them. That would be my guess as well. And it was literally twice as likely to be willing to share. Oh, that much. Wow.

If they won the game. If they didn't win the game last. So it just was an order, right? So the ordering, right? So he still won and lost the same number of games. But if the last game they played was when they lost. And then asked to be, and then asked to share their favorite items. they just, we're not going to do it, right?

Yeah. And we've known for a long time about transitional objects, like a security blanket or like, you're wooby, right? Or you take some cloth from your mom's shirt and you carry that around school until you're in seventh grade or whatever, right? You have this, like, connection to another human and the body of, you know, it's imbued in a body of an object, right? Yeah.

So we've all known this. We probably haven't thought much about it, but it kind of boils down to some attention. attachment theory. We've talked about attachment theory here a little bit in the past, but if anyone wants to Google it, it's sort of late 20th century work. This is not like this stuff isn't that old when we were like, oh, do humans bond? And so you have all these British psychologists doing this pioneering work because I'm sure they were not getting bonding while they were in boarding school from age eight. But anyway, so there was a lot of like research early age figuring out, like, how humans attach to each other or don't. And we talked about this a little bit.

Maybe this might be repeating for some people, but just the different styles of attachment that we tend to have. So these are with people. Let's start that they're with people first. So the attachment styles are secure. And that is when you get your main caregivers are meeting your needs. And it's pretty predictable. You can develop a secure attachment. It's just safe. You know, your attachment. goes both ways and, you know, feel really good. And when those people then go on in different areas of their life, relationships, their own child rearing, there's a tendency to just for them to healthfully attach. It's just easier for them to do that, right? And then the other attachment styles are avoidance. And that is often, if your caregiver kind of pushed you away in times

of need, you might have developed this avoidance style, which is just like independent, emotionally distance, that kind of thing. And then the other is more of an anxious attachment style. And that is where you perceive your caregiver as inconsistent. So sometimes they meet your needs. Sometimes they don't. And so you're sort of clinging to or constantly modtering if people in your intimate life are still there for you or not. So you're just sort of always gauging that.

Right. That's a rough one. Often I have found, and this is anecdotal, I'm sure there's numbers on this. But avoidance attachment and anxious attachment, people really like each other. oh really that's interesting yeah and it's really it's a tricky one because um is that like a is that like a weird codependency thing um and that's not the word i'm looking for but like an unhealthy combo for yeah and very yin and yang right like if i am pulling away from you and i'm you know i'm detached and you're anxious and having to always make sure i'm i'm into you right like that back that dances can be

rough. And it's not like everybody. And then, you know, you can actually get together someone with a secure attachment style and it really can heal a lot of your other avoidant or anxious attachment styles, which is interesting. Anyway, not always the case. People have, that's a lot of work too. Sure. Anyway, but so in 1987, some researchers did, they wanted to put some numbers to these attachment styles. So it's not like everyone's in the same category or whatnot. But what they found is about 56% of people are securely attached, have that style. And then 20% are anxious and about 24 are avoidant. Now, we think this is changing. We think people are actually getting more anxiously attached or avoidantly attached. At a rapid rate? I don't know if it's rapid. I just think what we're

finding as people are spending less time with actually other people, that there is, it's not, I don't know what chicken in the egg quite is because I know there's more parenting attention and, you know, meeting children's needs. And, you know, there really has been a lot more around that. So you would think it would just be getting better. But what maybe we're noticing is actually attachment issues in relationships, not necessarily with your parents, are showing up and, you know, going back to my dating online problem, right? Right. Where think of the level of attachment styles showing up in an app,

and then you're at the risk of, you know, sort of all the feelings and all the things and all of the, you know, so it's going to really maybe trigger some anxious attachment stuff or insecure stuff. And maybe you weren't insecure to start with and you become insecure, right? So we're finding there's a bit of a thing. And so 2014, there was a meta analysis of a bunch of different studies. all college students sort of looking at their securist attachment scores. And so we have some numbers,

which is 49% sort of met the secure attachment criteria in 1988, and it was down to 42% in 2011. And that wasn't even when there were dating apps. So they're kind of suspecting, you know, it's just more individualism, that kind of thing. And the actual thing, which ties back to this person's email, is materialism because, you know who doesn't ever let you down those vintage pair of Jordans that I was going to say a pet, but yeah, it is the, yeah. Yeah, but a pet is also similar, right? Like I put all those emotional needs on this animal and it gives it back, right?

And objects actually, again, we imbue some of these characteristics to objects. So going back to what this person had written, like, they are wondering, why am I so attached to my things? And it wasn't really until trying to sell something that it was like, wait, I am really like, I love this thing and I don't want to let it go. So the only thing they didn't write, which I would love, if he had said what is romantic status. He did say he was single, but like, how's that going? And is that, and didn't he say he moved across the country? Yeah, recently for a job. Yeah.

Yeah. And so you've got all new social stuff that is going to be way more in flux and do I belong and, you know, feeling connected or not connected, right? So kind of this idea is that the less connected we are in our human relationships, the less, the more insecure we are there, there is a tendency to have put more on our material objects, right? And notice we have phrases for this, right? Retail therapy. You're going to you're going to buy. things to feel better about something, right? Yeah. Maybe break up or maybe, you know, other things. So kind of this idea is you cling tightly to your belongings when you feel less confident about the people around you. Okay, so I got another study for you, ready? Yeah, go.

So in 2002, 12, sorry, 2012, this is one of my favorite journals of experimental social psychology, just because you're going to do weird stuff. Yeah. And I love that. I love doing, I love what people do great stuff. Yeah. Okay. So people were asked to, first of all, write three recent instances where someone close to them had let them down.

So they write them out. And then a second group is asked either to write about when a stranger had let them down or they'd let themselves down. So the first group is all people close to them letting them down. Second group is a stranger or even themselves letting themselves down. Yeah. So you could kind of see it this way that that first group was primed to consider the unrealistic. reliability of close friends or romantic partners. Okay?

Okay. And then they reported that they felt less certain that they could count on others, and they showed an increased attachment to objects, right? Oh, really? Okay. All right. Yeah. And then there was another study that sort of asked people to write a couple sentences

about uncertainties they felt about their abilities or uncertainties they felt about their relationship. So again, you're sort of priming them to be in the headspace. that they are not so sure about others' reliability. Right, and stick to the things that they could count on their possessions. Their possessions. And either, and either, so your ability, or sorry, other people or yourself, you would think that would also maybe do it, right?

But when they kept finding consistently is that it's other people letting them down, not themselves, not their own boyables or whatever, that get them more attached to their stuff, right? Okay, so anyway, what they did was they got, them primed to feel uncertain about other people in their relationships, right? And then the experimenter asked all the participants to give them their cell phones, which would be returned after, you know, they did some writing thing, right? And what they found that those asked to write about uncertainties in terms of their relationships

had major separation anxiety from their phone. And then we're like, flying through the writing task to get back to their phone, right? And then the other group just was like writing the thing and it wasn't that big of a deal. So that's interesting, right? So, you know, your sweatshirt that's like tattered and loved it. Golden boy, the one you don't want to get rid of. Yeah, exactly. Or your mug that you love or your teddy bear, right?

Like those objects are reliable. They're always present. They're under your control. And you can count on them. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Okay.

So what does this all mean for our friend? Yeah, that's a good question. What do we tell him? Well, you are... Because he's not... I feel like he's not doing it as much. Well, I shouldn't say this because I don't know, but it doesn't seem like he's doing it as much out of a desperate attempt to have things

around him he can rely on. He's doing things like really expensive watches. And I have a couple of friends that are way, way, way into watches and spend most of their expendable money per year on a new watch or multiple watches and they're you know one day it's a tag hour the next day it's some Rolex the next day it's some other thing and wonder if there's some sort of psychological thing that they're just trying to get more time yeah maybe that's just desperate for time but like it's like oh if I get a watch maybe I'll have more time to do the things I need to do yeah yeah um okay did you guys happen to ever see super store yes yes oh yeah

Do you remember the episode where Dina's birds get left out, let out at her prized possession? And she's so sad and they all hide the fact that they accidentally let her birds out. And then for payback because she's psycho, she burned all of, I forget his name, all of his really expensive shoes. The guy in the wheelchair, yes. And that was such a great episode to illustrate sort of this, our deep need, we have, we put in these other things and trauma and then how we can harm each other with our objects. What I'm thinking about for our emailer specifically, though, is if you think about, let's just say, I could be wrong, but let's just say there is like a hoarding tendency at home.

And, you know, having some poverty questions of just not having enough could definitely. And we can all be clear there are billionaires who are hoarders, right? It's not that you don't have enough money, but there is a tendency to feel airsy when it is a legitimate thing. You literally don't have enough stuff or money to buy, replace stuff. You're going to keep stuff, right? Okay. So that's the environment. I would ask a lot more questions about that. That would be really interesting to find out how that relates to this. So the niceness of those items makes sense to me that it's kind of the opposite of the thing, but it becomes the same thing, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I get that. Hanging on to them, right? And so maybe

growing up and these are some of the questions I would ask is just what was it like growing up having your parents like how did they treat objects how you know how were you treated what what was the the values on things in your home and sometimes it can be totally opposite like oh they didn't care about any stuff and then it could all be to we collected everything and they were so valuable and you know the the this painted plate that's supposed to be worth millions of dollars one day is it's on the mantle. You know, like what, how were those messages given, you know, et cetera? So I would look into that for him and also then do a, you know, a thorough check of

where are your real life connections like with humans. Is there something going on there that your self-esteem is so wrapped around the items and my value in who I am and, you know, maybe we would need to do some identity. work like what else am I if I'm not the guy with the amazing watch or the vintage book collection or whatever it might be because we all do this to some extent it's identity development I am the person who does this thing or whatever right so there's some definitely normal all the normal stuff here and it's probably not as serious as is you know it could be right but it really is important when you start to ask yourself that question when you start to sort of wonder what is my attachment

to things and then what are the consequences of my attachment to things right you have lots of world religions that would argue or or philosophies or um you know stoicism whatever you can kind of go around the rounds and find most will have some like idea pointing to maybe we shouldn't be so attached to things you know yeah yeah some of them some of them really like that prosperity gospel thing where you should buy yourselves private planes and things like that but that's 100% right right which is so we should have another session on shadows but that's such shadow stuff right we should do shadow we I love that I know what you're talking about we should totally do one on that one day I don't know what that is yeah it'll be good it's all we'll leave it as a that's a January conversation yeah we'll do that

in January and it's all about Alec Baldwin in the failed 90s film the shadow oh no I get it okay cool Yeah, you understand. Anyway, so yeah, kind of that idea of that like, hey, to be a happier person is to not be so attached to the material world, right? Like, this is not new. And the conundrum of I don't actually feel really good about my overattachment or whatever it might be is fascinating. So this morning, Adam and I were talking about Christmas, we have, I am really good at Christmas, usually everyone. I'm not, I don't, there's no snow. So I'm confused.

Yeah, right. I don't know how to do it. What's going on with no snow where you live? How come that's a thing? Oh, it's terrible. It's 40 degrees today. This is like a raging hot summer day. Oh, God.

Weird. That's weird. But you've had cold weather up there. I know I've seen, you know, you just haven't had any precipitation. But I have what all the rest of you have, where it comes and goes. And there's like a cold spout everyone that gets. That's what we've had. We don't have our own version of it.

No, and it's true. I'm looking up my pseudo window right now. And it's, you know, green grass or greenish brown grass. grass completely devoid of any moisture or piles of snow or corner, you know, like the shadowy corners. Yeah, there's none of that. It's sad. I don't know why, but anyway, but I'm not feeling the mood and I'm like, our kids don't, what do they even want? Nobody wants Christmas presents. This is dumb. And then I get this email and I'm like, oh, yeah, let's not be attached to things. So we thought of this very funny idea of what if you, you know, the thought that counts, right? You literally just

give the thought. So it would be. You basically tell them, I thought about this for you or I thought about you the other day. So here's mine. I thought about this amazing trip to Thailand and I will even find the hotel and I will put all of it in like I'm going to make it so it looks like this is this amazing trip that's going to be planned. I won't write a date, of course. And here's the planning. This is how much it will cost. And honestly, he would feel like, oh, you would do that for me. And also I just saved $8,000 by not doing it. So that's what's happening at our house for Christmas. I don't really know how to undo, you know, it's not that everyone feels very differently about some of these things for reasons, right? Because we all have

our own childhoods. We all have our own relationship with things and money. And we all have our own baggage that comes with gifts and giving and receiving. And like, it's a complicated, not let alone talk about family dynamics. We're just talking about your own experience with some of these things, you know, this weird time of year where we suddenly give each other presence and it creates weirdness. But, you know, taking a look at your own, what is your own attachment style with objects is an interesting thing, right? I think you've got a lot of collectors that listen to you guys and a lot of, I don't know, I feel like painting miniatures is a comment every five or six. It comes up a lot. So there is some, there is some love of some collectible

and cool stuff and like having that around you right and so finding what it actually feels good and maintaining that as opposed to um you know that can get out of control because we're humans right we totally can our brain will keep telling us to get a new thing it just does so it's going to take energy to do something different and often when people can just kind of explore their thing and i'm going to ask you two to just do that for us real quick because we're going to ask this email or to do it you've got to do it for him uh what is your if if i just say any memory in getting something that was an object buying it for yourself someone giving it to you having it in your possession that just like pops in your head is like the joy right

like you are so happy um an Atari 2600 in 19 70 something. I found it hidden behind the chair in my parents' room. Hadn't been wrapped yet. And so I knew it was coming, but the joy and the smile on my face that I have from that. You know, you're going to ask me if I still have it somewhere in this house, aren't you? Yeah, do you? Yeah.

I do, yes. And it's not because I held onto it as much as it's because my uncle George held on to it when I didn't want to hold on to it anymore. He's like, oh, I'll hold on to it. But now you're glad he held on to it, right? I'm glad he held onto it. He gave it back to me, and so I still have it.

Yeah. Probably never use it again. Maybe never play it again. Mike for laughing. No, I don't know how I'd ever even hook it up to anything because it needs those little two-prong things. Yeah, the RF adapter. Crap.

Yeah. Yep, exactly. For me, it's probably similar, well, a little older maybe, but I was, how old was I then? You remember when mom and dad went to Japan and they came back? with a bunch of stuff that was way ahead of anything we could buy here. Oh, yeah, like a big old camera. Yeah.

Back of the day, the battery, like you'd wear on your shoulder and then the camera was up here, but you had the tape part down here. That seems old now, but at the time, it was like cutting edge, a VCR that like didn't go shushunk. It was one you fed it into. So it was all this like Japanese only stuff that wasn't in the stage yet for another six or eight months. And two of the things they brought back for me and my brother were, um,

boom boxes from Hitachi and they were so far advanced compared to any other kids 80s boombox that I knew. Yeah. And I loved that thing so much, held on to it the entire time and to this day still have it in the house, but technically Carter has inherited it because she thinks it's the greatest thing ever. But it still works. It still exists.

It's still a thing. It doesn't play tapes anymore. That quit working, but the radio works. And it still sounds really good. And I used to use that as kind of a. status symbol. I'd show up to play basketball on Saturday mornings with friends or whatever, and I'd bring this boombox, hook that thing up and play, I don't know, Duran Duran as loud as I could. And the kids would be like,

whoa, no way, mine's not even close to this. Where do you get these? Like it was that whole thing. So I have a whole circle of feelings around, mostly positive feelings around that thing and how cool I thought it was. That's awesome. Okay, so let me tell you how brain studies just prove, you guys prove the point. Good job. And a brain study from Yale will just confirm. In an fMRI machine, objects that a person has previously just imagined as mine activated the same brain in regions as anyone's reference to their own selfhood.

So when you identify with something hard, your brain is literally firing in the same spot as it does when you think about who I am, right? Yes. Which is why it can become pathological and become problematic. and become problematic, right? And just a quick, 4 to 5% of the adult population can have a pathological condition of this.

So you imagine, like, you've seen hoarders, you know? I've read a couple people, a couple people, they watch hoarders to get them to clean their own house. Like, it helps motivate them. It's like their body double. Like, I'm going to watch this. This is going to make me want to clean out a cupboard

or whatever. Because it's so relatable in terms of like, oh, you know, because we all have the capacity, right? But about four or five percent actually could kind of get, you see it, you go, well, my, I get a catharsis out of it because I'll watch a hoarder's episode and go, well, I, whatever my problems are, it's nothing like this. This is great. You know, like I feel pretty, I feel better about me. Seeing somebody who does it worse always makes you feel better. Yeah, but it also has.

It also works as a motivation to never get there. Like, I don't want to go there. So like now is the time to work on it. But I've always said, the only difference, I've maybe said this twice. the only difference between a poor hoarder you know your average hoarder on the show hoarders and a millionaire billionaire who buys everything he wants the only difference between these people is one of them can afford all the storage space and the other one can't that's true yeah right right well something to note here okay so so part of why that is true for every one of us of course if

your brain lights up when it's mine in my center of self when you when you watch any of the hoarders stuff or you feel it yourself is the extreme is I want to die if I let go of this thing right it's treasured I'm losing a part of myself and and that to take anyone's part of themselves so not going to let it go easily right and something noteworthy here 99% of all that hoarding work and research and understanding is US and Europe this is not a problem in lots of lots and lots of places. In fact, a new study on Taiwanese children basically shows that like a collectivist society versus an individual society have a different relationship to material things. So some of this, the lonelier we get, the more

disconnected maybe from other humans, the more materialistic we get. And then that feels more like us, right? And then we're more protective of that. And you know, here we go on and on. But is also the sort of recipe for misery, right? So you both have these, like, wonderful things that brought you so much joy and we're so cool and are part of you. They're still in your house. That is an example of, like, but times that by a lot, you're in trouble, right? But you can see, like, there's nothing like wrong with this.

It's just understanding it, I think is really helpful. So when you find yourself, so back to the email and when he finds himself having a really strong reaction to one thing, really maybe taking a minute to go. through the story of it. Like, what does this mean to me? We do this in real steps with when we eat slowly together. We eat mindfully together. Like, what is the, what is the memory that goes with this food? So when I did it with red vines, I was like every fun family trip I ever went on had a red vine in it. Yeah. Right? The red vine runs through it all. It's like a big giant red vine through your childhood, just ripped right through all your memories. And I, at the state

fair this summer, they had a giant red vine box. I have pictures of me hugging. of because it's such a lovely part of my life, right? But do I need to eat a whole thing of it? I don't. No, I've learned to fix that. But I can still love it because it's imbued with connection to sentimental, fun, whatever, right? So you don't have to, there's no beating yourself up in any of this, right? It's let's get curious about it.

What's my attachment style? How are my social relationships going, you know, and figuring out maybe a little bit of, this is why we donate stuff too, right? We need it to have a good home because we really have imbued it to be another person and a relationship with it. And some of that social pressures like, you know, well, I shouldn't just throw it away.

I should find, you know, there's a feeling of like this will be wasted if I don't give it to someone who needs it or, and which there's a lot of truth of that. But in some cases, my stuff, it's like some nerd thing that no one else is going to give a poop about. But I'm just so precious about it sometimes. Like, well, what if I mean, if I can't, maybe I've found a kid.

who wants it or and then I end up not giving it away because I can't decide who should get it and yeah yeah we've all been there I know we're all and so next time you look at your favorite object call it a name give it a hug and then go meet a friend and build some bonds outside of your objects that's a good idea um all right well uh can't wait to hear back from this dude who will also try to do what we uh did think of a thing what did you tell them to do is a little bit of homework think of the thing that you that you loved when you got it and then what burn it yeah and no no don't burn it but just like get curious about it like really try to figure out where that love of it came from like you both gave good examples of like it makes sense right this is so core to both of you

and it represented those things and there's sometimes a maybe we need to say goodbye to something but also there might just be no I really like these nice watches and I'm going to keep them but I really need to like join a you know a trivia night and meet some people in my new city you know what I mean it's it's not the fact that he's having some panic and some other things just says there's more going on and you know maybe take a look at it and if it's not a problem for you it's not a problem for you great yeah and if you have a storage unit or two there might be a problem you know yeah and there's a reason why people who seem to have everything and are still not satisfied end up on like Epstein's plane or something you know what I mean like they start going to

some dark places because life and things no longer give them anything they just they just feel dead and they're like well what else can I do I know I can go to Jeffrey Epstein's island and involve myself in that nightmare um at least before he was a dark turn it was a bit of a dark turn I guess something to pimp today because the real steps is over the round was over it was awesome people were amazing thank you everyone uh was so fun um but here's my new thing to pimp okay this is just for my friends as a favor uh okay if you happen to live in new york city please do this if you don't live in new york city you can also just buy a ticket and donate it to a child uh this is the one i told you about the gingerbread city um it's so cool

it's at the pier at the seaport at fulton street and it is architects all over New York City built the coolest gingerbread houses, right? So, like, you're not going to see some kidsdom, gingerbread house. You're seeing architectural. It's awesome. Anyway, and they do really fun, you know, you can buy kits and take them home and do your own. You can do classes there or whatever. Anyway, so it's just opening.

It's the first time it's in New York. She's so stressed. Anyway, so go to the website, the gingerbreadcity.com. That sounds awesome. I know. Doesn't that sound fun? I wish I could just go. How do you get the... I'd be so curious about how you recruit these amazing architects to even do this. Right. Well, she's an architect and knows she went to architecture school in New York, but she lives in London. There's been one going on in London for a long time. And those architects, it's so funny, the difference. I'm not kidding.

The architects in London are like, one. And they make their own gingerbread. She gives them a recipe, but they do their own thing, right? The architects in New York are like, yeah, we're not going to make gingerbread. Yeah. And so they had to get a fancy bakery to make the gingerbread because people would do it if someone else made their gingerbread. And I was like, welcome to America, friend. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. So anyway, it's really cool. It's right. There's that huge Christmas tree in front. It's like a really fun Christmas place to go anyway. but you know tickets are 10 bucks for kids 18 bucks for adults and if you just are feeling generous and want to unattach yourself to $10 just go buy a kid ticket and then don't go yeah that's the cheapest thing in New York it sounds like to me I know you'll never get anything cheaper

name something you can get for 10 but I think a slice of pizza is more than 10 bucks and oh guaranteed right this is your kid gets to see magical architecture and it's also kind of like eco-thames so it's like how land and water it's cool It feels like a museum kind of thing, but it's just also super fun. And the kits are amazing. Like, kits are way less expensive than a grocery store kit of crap for gingerbread. She's undercharging because she doesn't know how New York actually works. But, yeah, do it.

Give them the URL one more time. What was the URL? It is the gingerbreadcity.com. The gingerbread city. The gingerbread city. Excellent. In New York so I can do this. Yeah, it seems like a blast.

Wendy, have a fantastic rest of your week. We'll still see you at least one more time before the holiday, I believe. That's correct. Okay. And maybe by then we'll talk about objectification. Maybe. See you then. Bye.

All right. That was great. Super interesting stuff. Made me think about all the crap I have I should get rid of. All right. That's going to do it for us. Big quick note here about all the stuff today. Coverville again, noon or one?

Yeah. Noon. Noon. Noon. hour early and then I'll watch my class the offset or basically I can time

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so video game awards tonight all of us talking there we're going to come in a half hour early and just do some you know some pre-show discussion so check us out at 5 p.m that's tonight normally the show's at 4 but we're doing it at 5 tonight so check going alive and this I think the actual awards start right at 530 so oh cool a little half hour pre-show play retro also on Friday along with our couch party for patrons of this show and if you want to be a part of that just hop in the discord and check out the details we'd love to have you in there as we continue to watch uh what if what if yeah we get

killmonger and Thor in our episodes tomorrow. Exciting. The subjects of our episodes. Did Michael B. Jordan voice killmonger? Believe he did. Believe he came back for that one. That's good. I think that you're right about there's something in their contracts. I think so. It's like

you sign your life away. Unless you're Jonathan Majors and they're like, maybe we don't need King for our King dynasty movie. Yeah. How's that going? Has any of that come anywhere? I think the trial started yesterday if I remember correctly oh it went to full on trial holy shit they're in the thick

of it yeah damn well yeah king the not so much conqueror anyway uh play retro later that day two 30 mountain on friday uh film sack on the weekend we're going to be doing uh oh film sac the three days of the condor which i watched last night oh right old movie old movie robert redford fade dunaway and max von cido yeah and cdow not look he's looking at actually decent and not a thousand years old like he did in the in the uh in uh flash gordon no the possession thing oh the the exorcist or uh exorcist yeah because they put so much no he still looks old in this does he still look old okay still looks old yeah it's young and old at the same time that guy's weird that's right exactly anyway that's this weekend also a skim later today

so uh all kinds of content get it in your system slosh it around one more thing guess i guess the connection tomorrow morning at nine o'clock so an hour before couch party you can come wind prizes that I ship out to you, if you live in the U.S., that is, at Twitch.tv.tv slash cover for that, too. Nice. Let's get out of here on a song. A happy song note. Do you have one to play? A happy song note. Yes, I do have one. And another one that I'm just super excited to play for somebody here. And that person is our resident, like, TikTok, comedian extraordinaire Shojo says, good morning, buttholes. My birthday is actually on Friday the 8th.

But tis the season for a Christmas cover request from me. Please play a cover of Santa Baby and repeat this public service announcement, if you don't mind. Do not, repeat, do not combine Christmas presents and December birthday presents into one. Thank you. Love and hugs to you both, sign Shogho. Well, happy early birthday, Shoujo. We absolutely love you and look forward every year to getting to see you. Yep.

This is a cover of Santa Baby. one that I think kind of turns it on its ear because it's not by Eartha Kitt or Madonna or any of these people. It's by the band Everclear. Yes, they included this on the 2007 compilation

Alternative Rock Christmas. So listen to the boys of Everclear sing Santa Baby. Oh man, I did not see this coming. But here we go. Enjoy this song, this version of it. And we will be back Monday with normal stuff and all this other stuff we mentioned.

Thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you soon. Santa Baby, just slip a guitar under the tree for me. Been an awful good boy, Santa Baby, hurry down the chimney tonight. Santa Baby, a 54 convertible tube, light blue, yeah, I'll wait up for you, dear, Santa baby so hurry down the jinnity night think of all the fun I've met

think of all the girl is that I haven't care next year I could be just as good if you check off my Christmas lift Santa baby I wonder your That's not really a lot

Been an angel all year Santa baby So hurry down the chimney tonight Santa cutie you One little thing that I need The deed To a platinum mine Santa baby

Come and trim my Christmas tree With some decorations for that epiphanie I really do Believe in you Let's see it do Believe in me too Santa baby Forgot to mention one little thing

Oh re Yeah Now don't mean on the phone Santa baby So hurry down the chin To the night Santa cutie Fill my stalking with a duplex

And check Sign your ex on the light Santa baby Now hurry down the chin until the night Think of all the fun I've missed Think of all the girls that I could have kissed Next year I could be just as good If you check off my Christmas leave

Santa baby Forget the mention just one little thing of me And I don't meet on the phone, Santa, baby. So hurry down the Zimmy tonight. You hurry down the chimney tonight. Hurry down the gym here tonight. Yeah. Oh.

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