The Morning Stream - TMS 2567: Tomato Blame

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

If you're married - Cut It in Half. Simply Drawing Santa Claus All The Time. All for One or None for All. Please mind the Kid's Gap. Looking at John's Ham. Zoe's Softcore Calendar. Still Require that Teat. At the law office of Strawberry Lemon and White. Backwards Address Bullshit. Calendar etiquette. Napoleon, Give Me Some of Your Frites. Charcuterie Board. What is Athlete? IKEA Knightly. Going Postal with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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TMS like Scott Zimmer, Bruce Sutherland, and Chase Walters. Coming up on TMS, if you're married, cut it in half. Simply drawing Santa Claus all the time. All for one and none for all. Please mind the kid's gap. Looking at John's ham. Zoe's softcore calendar. Still require that teat.

At the law office of strawberry lemon and white. Backwards address. Bullshit. Calendar etiquette Napoleon, give me some of your frets Shark cutery board What is athlete Ikea nightly

Going postal with Bobby and more On this episode of the morning stream All we need to do is find The tooth of a baby crocodile The blood of a pigeon And the pubes of a virgin And then we just have to burn them all before sunset What's the world coming to is all I'm saying

The morning Don't eat that. It's Pluto. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for December 11th, 2023. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Ibitt. It's 12.11. 12 plus 11 equals 23 Scott what no one told me this before the show I just did just dawned on me as I was looking at the date to see if there are any like palindrums or anything I love stuff like

that I know you do I like this and even more because it's like a it's kind of a cool math thing you don't think of right away it's not an obvious pattern right you have to right to put your head to it and and you Europeans it works for you too yeah it does work for you guys either way whenever you do it those things that don't you know don't work for both of us now No, no, it's, it works for both. This is, by the way, the way you know that Bo Schwartz handles the dating or putting the date information on my docs when I do core is that he does that backwards address bullshit that the Canadians do. So thanks Canada. Day month year.

Yeah, they love that up there. So it's fine. And I understand why you guys think it's better. I think you might even be right. But we're stubborn A-holes down here, all right? It's hard for us to change. If I could, I would change us to, uh, it's not. the same thing, but I would change us to metric tomorrow if I could. I think one generation could

struggle with it. And then after that, we'd all be good in the clear. Why we don't do it, I don't know. But I'm here and ready. Brian's ready. We're ready for metric. I'm ready. I'll do Celsius. I don't give a shit about Fahrenheit. I really don't. I think I'm more ready for metric than I am for daylight saving this time to just be straight across the board. Because I think about that, like, oh, man, it would be so great to get rid of it. Yeah. Then I'm out in the car and it's 3 o'clock and the sun is already starting to get close to the mountains and start to go down. And I think, would I be okay with this being 2 o'clock? And are you going to be like this?

Like dark at 4 in the middle of November and December? Like, maybe not. Maybe this is not what we want. Don't we, we just have to flip to the other one, right? And that's the one we stay with, right? Is that the one we stay with? Well, that's what I would want to stay with for the same reasons you're describing. I want longer day hours, or sorry, later.

It wouldn't change, it wouldn't change how many hours. But it would, it just means that our mornings would be darker. Right. So, like, it would be 9 o'clock or 8 o'clock and it would still be dark outside or something. This is probably why it'll never change, right? Because people don't like that and they don't like the other either. They want to have holes. I think so.

I think that's the whole, I mean, that's why it's so hard to adopt that shift or get rid of that shift. And they do it in Arizona, but Arizona, you know, You guys don't have climate reasons why you would this messes you up. Like, you don't have cold winters. They're used to it. I think they're used to it. That would be a good question for Tanner sometime or any of our Arizonans. Nicole, being a former Arizonan.

Did it get weird? Did it really suck in the winter months when either it was super dark late in the morning or it was super dark early in the afternoon? I don't know which one they were on. Yeah. Was it a problem? Because right now they're us. their mountain um because we had to switch around core for john john's in arizona oh so he'd be

another person to ask yeah be curious so he used to start to show at five he now starts it or no he used to start it at four his time and when our time changed it was like well i can't start it at three sure so so i bumped up to before you yeah you and bow had to adjust yeah which is sucky for us but also for them because they they have to tell everyone that they have the time that never changes. So you have to work around me. It's all, it's all jacked. We either have to do this together or don't do it at all.

That's it. Yeah. Whole country at once or world or all for none. That's right. All for one, all for none. Wait, that doesn't work. All for, all for one or none for all. Something like that.

There's a, there's something. That's it right there. Anyway, we hope you had a good weekend. Ours was busy, mostly with little kids, but there was a bunch of stuff going on. and after the kids got picked up yesterday, Kim and I decided, it used to be a thing we'd do all the time when our kids were little. We'd go to the mall a lot. We'd love to mall, all right?

Pull out the stroller, take a kid with you, roll around in there, especially during the holidays, spend too much time in software, et cetera. Kim would go to crate and barrel and spend way too much time in there, this sort of stuff. And so we thought we'd go relive a little bit of that. You go to New York Express. I'm going to go hang out in Babbage's.

Exactly. That's where I wanted to be. It's where my heart was. right you know she can spend time in sephora all she wants but let me please go to the cool stores but anyway we would go we would we decided to go there and we went in there and we got a steak and cheese thing at the at the food court uh-huh uh from great steak

which oh the great steak escape yeah that those good yeah so we had that uh boy those prices have gone up anyway yeah did you get uh whizwit uh no i got uh What did we get? We got a big one and then cut it in half. Oh, yeah. Which is the way to do it if you're married. You eat less and you're going to share it anyway. So do that.

Exactly. Might as well. Yeah. Skip the fries because those are no good for me anymore. And we just, you know, chilled. Anyway, it was a lot of fun. It was a mall that we used to go to all the time when we first got married. So this is a little bit of nostalgia, Christmas shit everywhere, all that kind of stuff. But I have to say this about a couple of stores.

there's there's a couple of chain stores like the Gap and the Gap kids and then there's this other one and I forgot the name of it I think it starts with an F but it's like the Gap but it's big and white and open and there's like a version for kids and a big version for adults okay they may be owned by the Gap people I don't even know um or I think they also own uh what's that other one I forgot the other one was big in the 90s anyway they uh they have this Lego store in there next to the kid's gap. And the Lego store has a line that is three lines or three loops deep. Oh, God. Waiting to get in there. Waiting to get into the Lego store. To the Lego store. And there's a guy out front holding the sign saying, uh, we're at capacity, please stand by. So he doesn't have to keep repeating it. He just stands or holding it. And then they slowly, someone will trickle out. They trickle somebody in. And the store is packed. So it's whatever the fire marshal limit is. That's what they're at. Or max capacity.

And then right next to them, there's a kid's gap, a gap kids. I guess is how you say it. The kids gap. And there's... Watch the kids gap. Watch the kids gap. And there's hardly, I think maybe one person in there at the sale rack. Other than that, it's empty.

But it is a gigantic space. So much more square footage in the kids gap. And the Lego store is this tiny little thing that can only hold 60 people at a time. Swap. just swap go come together have a meeting of the lines and just switch places sure just say take the weekend move all your Lego stuff into the kids gap store move all your kids gap stuff into the Lego space yeah we'll figure out contracts and rent later just uh the signage we'll we'll figure that all out I'm sure it's as easy as that Brian just a quick weekend and you're done but

I just kept thinking man you shouldn't have to do this three stack line while these guys aren't having anything going on and I and also well that that line also might be to help out the store clerks and the Lego store like I imagine I know there's probably capacity issue fire marshal capacity issue of course as well but right you know you get all those people uh in line wanting to buy their Atari 2600 last ones before they're sold out of them forever yeah uh for 400 bucks or whatever that that stark tower for 500 great but I always think about all the building be so much fun, but I don't want to keep it when I'm done. I want to just build it, but I don't want to keep it. You don't want to have that hanging around, eh? You don't want

to put that in your collection? I don't want to have to maintain it and dust it and, like, have to build a shelf for it. Like, shelf space in this, in this basement, is it a premium? Yeah, that's right. I'm even trying to figure out if there's a way to hang the helicarrier so it can be suspended from the ceiling rather than take up a shelf. That's a good idea. I'd do that with like a Millennium Falcon or something, too. You'd want to hang it. Yeah, exactly. big. That's not bad. And you got that cutaway ceiling stuff, the whatever you call it. I do. I have the drop ceiling, the acoustic acoustical tile. Yeah, dude. You should do that.

But anyway, I'm just saying, kids gap either improve your marketing and sell some stuff or quit hog in all the space. All right? Because there's nobody in there. I don't know what's going on. The holidays are Rapanis. People are packed in this mall. This mall is packed with human beings. And every store is busy. Even the stupid mattress stores and all the freaking, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, there's a massage salon and a weird Asian imports place. They're all killing it. Yeah. Except Gap.

Gap's got nobody in it. For whatever reason, nobody wants to buy anything for the babies. Will somebody please think of the babies? Even the main gap, the adult gap had less people than I thought should be in there for a holiday time. It's just weird. I don't know. Maybe the gap has finally, you know, falling out of favor. I don't know what's going on there.

But it was fun. I like the mall. I like it a lot. I like them all food. I like hanging around them all. I realize it's a bit of a relic in the world, or at least as it's considered that. But man, let me tell you, mid-80s through the 90s, that was your jam. That's where you went.

Yeah. That's where I would stay. That's where I would go at 5.30 in the morning for my PlayStation to come out. And wait. And wait so you could be the first to get it. Do you have a Second and Charles out there, the store called Second and Charles? I don't know. Let's see.

We may have talked about this before, but. Second and Charles. 2nd and Charles.com. Let me see locations. Let's see if you guys have one. Yeah, I'd be curious. States. Oh, yeah, there's some in Utah.

Is there? In the, in Orum. Okay, well, further from you. Too far, though. I could do that. That's far. 140 East University Parkway. This is a store by my mom.

Oh, really? This is a store that is like everything we like, and by we, I mean, you, me, and everybody in this this inner circle all in one store um video games music toys books uh little models statues uh DVDs if you're into that sort of thing blue rays if you if you want those funco pops like all that stuff um they got vinyl who vinyl too yeah and and fairly decent prices on vinyl uh not too bad oh yeah musical instruments um they buy all your old crap i took a big box of stuff over there i got 55 bucks in uh store cash to use there but uh wow these some of these are expensive like the sucker punch vinyl goes for a hundred and 161 bucks yeah tell that to donnolly

i bet uh i bet he's already got it he probably does i got they got the craft remember the the movie with all the girls that were witches or whatever from the nighties That's $199.95 for that. See, and that's, that's Brand, like, you know, that's the re-issues. You go there, you can also get, like, used the original albums that aren't on the 180 gram vinyl. Yeah. Claire is yelling, is it secondhand, is it secondhand? Yes, it's secondhand.

Yeah, that's what the second come from. Like I'm saying, they buy your old shit so that they can sell it to new people. Yeah, it's second. Did it start out on the street? Is that why it's named second and Charles is because it was a street, like a crossroad? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a play on secondhand. Like you're getting stuff, some of it is secondhand, but some of this stuff is brand new.

They have adult puzzles, but they're not what you think they aren't. They're just... I know. It just means they aren't like 16 pieces, easy to grab. Pictures of Bluey. more than 10 pieces that sort of thing that's right but that place is great

and if you get a chance make the trip up to or visit your mom and then go visit second and journals we're actually going up there or Friday night and I'll go home and check it out there you go maybe take some of your stuff like take a box of stuff that you want to sell

and see what they'll give you for it it does look like they'll take just about any of this stuff they will yeah yeah I took a bunch of funco pops that I still had in the box from the old Marvel collector core monthly shipment crates and a couple other things that I probably got from a loot crate. It's like, yeah, I don't need this.

Wow. You know what? They'll give you money for these, not Blu-Rays, but your DVD, oh, Blu-Rays, too, but DVDs, man. Yeah, Blu-Rays too. Yes. Oh, yeah, some box sets I took. They got, they got HD DVDs. Do they really?

Oh, yeah. Do they sell a thing that they'll play on? That's a good question, probably not. Those are harder to get, but all right, you've convinced me. Shane confirms that the name is a mix of second from the term second hand, and Charles Anderson, Charles Anderson, Mr. Anderson, which is the founder's father. Oh, you named it after his dad. That's cool. After his dad. It's real nice.

It sounds like an address. You're like, hey, meet me over on second of Charles. Yeah, I think it's supposed to. Okay. It's good. I like it. I'm going to go check it out. And I can buy ticket to paradise for 3496 on DVD. I want to get you. Oh, I got you. Not the any mini album. I guess that's two. It's to paradise. George Clooney and Julia Roberts thing that's not even that old.

Oh, right. From a couple years ago or last year. Yeah. I can get The Lethal Weapon, the Complete Second Season for 3998, or The Passion of the Christ for 1995. I'll tell you that Lethal Weapon series wasn't bad. No, it was actually good. I liked it.

It was actually pretty good. The dude apparently was a real deck. The, the, the, the actor who played Riggs apparently was a real problem, but Wayans was great. The problem you got is you got your network TV and they don't let things breathe. So, you know, good shows, they just don't, like Hannibal. Hannibal was amazing. NBC gave it, what, three seasons and then pooped out? Casterds.

Well, anyway, go to them all, everybody's what I'm saying. It's a good time. It's fun. It's just a fun. And in the holidays, it's the perfect time for it because it's just shit everywhere. Sunday's not going to be

their busiest day. Don't go. I wouldn't go on a Saturday. That would be a nightmare. It just sounds awful. Oh, God, yeah. But where else are you going to get a Sabaro and an Orange Julius?

Right. Come on. Exactly. I sat and ate that steak thing between those two places you just mentioned. Nice. Yeah. You know your malls.

You know what's like. I know my malls. Yeah. They're around the corner from the Claire's boutique and the bath and body works. That's right. Yeah, they also had one of those, what's the ones where they give you the beef rolls and the cheese

collections and stuff? Oh, not Pepperidge Farms. Something Farms, though, right? It is Farms. It is Farms. Yes. Oh, shit. Hickory Farms. Hickory Farms. There we go. I saw one of those. Salvation Farmy. Yep. And then, you know, the occasional kiosk that for some reason

it's just loaded with calendars. It's just weird, man. Oh, yeah, go. That's actually where I got I got a calendar. So here at my desk, I need calendars of a particular size because I realized I have a need. I need a calendar with big spaces that I can write on, big, big days. These are things I don't like doing digitally. To-do lists and calendars, I don't like doing digitally. I want physical, tangible stuff.

Oh, nice. And so I care less about what's on the, what the theme of the calendar is. I care more about, like, what the, what the, the thing is. So I've got this, you know, this is my December calendar. And I've got it mounted on a piece of Lusite with three magnets on the top so that I can stick it to a little magnet strip, a metal strip on my wall. And I can pull it off the wall. It's on a, it's on that hard plastic. So I can just write something really quickly and put it back. You are a calendar nerd. And this is the bacon calendar. And you're baking me crazy 2023 wall calendar. Calm down, Zoe. Calm down. We're not sending you one. Calm down. I should send her all my former day, like all the former months. This time, it is the album covers and musicians redone with cut paper.

So here is the Fleetwood Mac Rumors. Oh, I love that so much. Yeah. These I'm probably going to keep. Yeah, you got to hang on to those. Those are great. Yeah, maybe I'll hang. Maybe I'll make a frame, 3D print a frame that has all of them in there, and I can just rotate out, which one's...

So they're all that style? What other day... They have David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen. That's amazing. I want that myself. It's really cool. So, yeah, that calendar kiosk, I go there every year for that specific thing. And they carry it every time, eh?

Well, they carry a calendar that has big enough. All I really care about primarily, I only ever look at the calendar part of them because as soon as I get them, I cut them in half and I have all the days in a drawer behind me and I just pull out the day. You got a system. Nothing wrong with that. Everybody should have a system. I know what I need.

I know what I need. I also like calendar non-digital, although it's a lot easier to remind people about things if you can share it around. But I like working. I like, if somebody says, hey, we need that day marked off.

I really like writing that down. If it's a to-do though, I'm very digital with to-dos. I don't know if that's good or bad. Are you what do you use? Use things. Do you use things? I've been using things from ever.

Yeah, things are good. At least a decade or more. I love that thing. or I love things. Yeah, no, I know. It's a great app. That's the app that I start, well, was using and then I stopped because it was a lot easier for me just to write it down on this sheet right here on my desk. Nothing wrong with that.

I remember, though, at the time when I got it, everybody was like, oh, it's so expensive, though, because it's like $49 or something. Yeah. And I remember thinking, yeah, that is kind of expensive. But you know what? They've never charged me for an update. They've never, I've never had to pay for a thing since. right they've had upgrades come out and it's like here's another free upgrade it's a new you know milestone version but yeah they've never said hey another another 50 bucks up or 25 if

you already own it or any of that stuff i just have the license i have it i've had it for it feels like more than 10 years probably 15 years or something and they just keep up updating it and proving it and i have it across my devices and they never ask for update money on those i love those guys i miss applications and tools that you would just buy right not have to basically rent. Yeah. Adobe. Creative cloud.

Creative cloud. C.C. bullshit. Exactly. I'm off that teat now. I know you are. For good or for ill, I'm off that teat. I still, I still need there many things that I use that require that teat. Primarily with specific clients that, uh, that need that teat.

Yeah. They help take it. So I'm all right. Yeah. As long as you got, if you have revenue coming through on it, you're good. That teat's all right with me. yeah that teet is they pony up for the teat bought and paid for uh one more quick thing um yeah uh i finally cracked open fargo season five and uh this is going to be my kind of thing i'm going to watch through

the whole the rest of the holiday time because that's just i don't know for whatever i even associate fargo the show and even the movie as kind of a christmas time thing to watch for sure the movie yeah and i and it totally makes sense that that kind of carries through on the series as well yeah And I love it. So I was very excited, but I've been letting them stack up because I wanted to have a bunch to binge. Finally cracked it yesterday. Already in love with it. Already great.

Already all the things I like about Noah Holly's take on all things Fargo. And everybody's great, dude, freaking. Is it weird seeing Juno Temple with an American accent? Not at all because she sold me at minute one. She sold me. Okay, good. She did like, she did like, what's his name from the British office, Tim, from season one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, of course he, right, he did drop it, yeah.

Kennedy was his name. Why can I think he's name? He's in the MCU, we all know him. He's, uh, Arthur Dent from the freaking hitchhackers guide. Yeah. Anyway, that guy. You're talking, you're talking about Martin Freeman. Martin Freeman.

Jeez, louises. I have before Claire Gack said it, just to. Sure. we got to give her credit when it's when it's due whatever we don't but uh his season one portrayal was amazing also and also dropped his accent and i thought he was amazing and he immediately sold me she did the same and she's great everybody's great so far uh you only get a glimpse of john ham's business in see in episode one so i'm excited to keep going there uh the two hit men sent from the kansas city people perfectly cast everything's great so far can't say enough can't win

to keep going. Oh my gosh. Tell me Dave Foley plays a bad game. Oh my gosh. Dave Foley. He plays a family lawyer. Okay. With an eye patch for the family.

And he dons a very Minnesota Fargo accent. Okay. All right. He plays the family lawyer advisor for this billionaire lady who is the mother of Juno Temple's husband

in the show. It's a kind of a complicated arrangement. He's, oh my gosh, he's perfect. He's perfect. Really? Okay, cool. Perfectly cast. You do not get distracted by him.

You do not go, oh, look, everyone. It's kids in the holiday fully. It's like, perfect for him. He's weasily and also lame at the same time and kind of amazing. Oh, shit, this is my jam. I love this stuff so much. Do you have a series right now where you feel this way where you're like, oh, I can't wait to get in there.

I mean, Fargo is the one I'm waiting to get into, and we might, you know, rip that package open early and not wait until January when all the episodes are out. Yeah. We just finished, well, I just finished Good Omen's Season 2. And it took me going back to figure out what Carter was talking about because I watched Good Omen Season 1 back in 2019, and I remembered, I remembered your tenant, I remember your Sheen, I remember your Sheen, I remember Hey, And I didn't remember anybody else Like the characters that they played I remember the rough idea of the story Right

And so it was like going back and refreshing my memory on season I'm like oh yeah all the actor All these other actors changed Rolls around and playing different people But Good Omen's season two Guess what you also see in there John Ham's naked butt Ah good he seems to be in the mood lately

To let everybody see it He does listen if I looked like John Ham I'd show my butt every chance I could get. Yeah. I like looking at John's ham, if you know what I'm saying. John's ham. I also caught up on the three, yes, count them three, Doctor Who, Christmas episodes. And I think the middle one was fantastic.

I think the other two were good, but I do like the introduction of the new doctor. I like how they brought them in. Nice. Controversial. No, spoilers, Claire. I'm not saying anymore. It's a kid from sex education, right? That guy? Exactly, yeah, sex education.

I like that guy. He's funny. I was wondering how over the top he was going to play it. And I really like his delivery. It is not what I was expecting. A lot of A-Holes talking about that stuff this morning. They don't like that there's a black man in the role of it. Oh, whatever.

You know, those people probably don't even watch Doctor Who. They probably complain. when there was a female doctor. Yep. Didn't watch that either. Probably had no. They didn't watch that either. And they're like, you know, it's a, I can't believe Doctor Who's going to Woke.

Yeah. Yeah. I think there's just sort of a, it's just engagement farming. That's where we're at now. Honestly, I can't take anyone serious anymore. Everyone's full of shit. They're all full of shit. But that's good.

I still haven't really watched much Doctor Who in the recent years, but I'm glad to hear landed well on you. Yeah, those you can watch. They're standalone stories. You can watch those and enjoy them, I think. Especially, God, two was actually pretty freaking scary at times. It's weird. It's really weird.

It's scary. Okay. The third one brings in Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah. Dr. He's an enemy. He's a character called The Toymaker. Oh, fun.

Again, again, not a, not a spoiler. Oh, look at Claire is like already. Oh, believe me. Believe me, Zoe. I was all over that music montage. No doubt, but I'm not going to say what it is, but it's, it was fantastic. So, all right. Positive reviews for Fargo, positive reviews for Dr. Who?

Yeah. You got all you need, everyone. Got all you need. So I think the next thing, we're probably, we caught up on, we've been, it has been playing catch up on, on new seasons of things. finished dark winds which was excellent yeah loved it we finished um physical the roseburn as a uh workout queen oh the 80s one or set in the 80s one yeah set in the 80s um we finished uh there was one more on the morning show season newest season whatever um oh i didn't even

mention it this weekend we went the son napoleon oh you saw the son napoleon did you son napoleon theater is the Ridley Scott business with with what's his face Joaquin Phoenix as the tall Joaquin Phoenix as the little the little emperor how'd you feel about them

attacking the pyramids when that never actually happened to that bother you yeah you know I because I was like wait a minute was it the pyramids I thought that the rumor was that he shot the nose off the sphinx I thought that's what that was and even then I think that was all apocryphal once I don't think any of that was historically accurate

Right. Exactly. It was, uh, but, um, really, really enjoyed the film. You did. Good. Good. Uh, Vanessa. Carlton. Yeah. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Vanessa, whatever, her last name is, who played, um, Margaret in the first season of the Crown with Claire Foy. Oh, I like her a lot. Yeah. She plays Josephine. Okay. And, um, God, it's excellent. Yeah, it was really, really good. Vanessa Kirby, that's it. Thank you, Free Rangers, yeah. I like her a lot.

She's great. She is great. Yeah, she is so compelling to look at, too. It's another freaking show I need to catch up on. I watched the first two seasons of the Crown and then just lost track. And I'm here, it's excellent all the way through and it just finished. So I probably ought to get in there and get that done. Yeah, but they did, yeah, changing history.

The whole thing did kind of bother me a little bit, especially there was no mention of that time that he spent in San Demas at the water park and in the shopping mall they took all that stuff out Oh man, that's important historical context It really is Remember when he ate that big ice cream thing You're the Biggie Piggy

And yeah, no mention of that in the Ridley Scott film Geez Ridley Scott look I understand Playing a little fast and loose with the facts But come on! Right, exactly All right, let's get Dunaway in here And make a mess of things right now here's this right here

Hey look who it is Brian Dunaway joining us all the way from South Carolina And as he does every Monday To play a little bit of the old half-asses Good morning Brian, how are you? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian Hi, how are you, man? Happy Monday

Doing okay, the weather is pretty decent And so I'm feeling all right So let's try to do another week of living. Let's do it. A new week of living or a new week of dying. That's the old phrase we remember. Get busy living this new week.

That's right. Don't forget. Hey, Brian, why don't you explain to us today what's at stake? Who might win what and how this works? Oh, okay. Welcome to the morning. Halfass is a trivia game where I'm going to be giving the two of you the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers.

Three of them are correct and three of them are like that scene in Napoleon where where Napoleon shoots the Pyraman Zegiza. Totally bullshit. If you can provide, depending on how confident you feel the category, you can provide one, two, or three guesses. If you get any guesses wrong, you get zero points for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, two right, gets you three points, three right gets you five points.

And the player, with the most points after three rounds, wins the prize for their contestant and contestants will be pulled from members of the Tadpool that are unable to listen live. Scott, you are playing for Ian. toothman in magnolia Delaware. Toothman. Wouldn't be great if he was a dentist? Would that be

perfect? During the day, he does fillings and just, you know, checkups and stuff. But at night, he becomes Toothman. Exactly. Burglars prepare to get flossed. I'm into it. I like it. And then, Brian, you're going to be playing for Hello Kitty Pez.

That's the name in Orleans, Louisiana. That's great. Hello Kitty Pez. I love it. Look, if you're going to be playing for Hello Kitty Pez, that's the name. If you're going to get a pez. Is it one of those giant pezzes or is it just normal size pears? Oh, I don't know. Where do you even get the big ones anymore?

I think those are kind of gone. I can't buy big ones. I just saw one today. Oh, Second and Charles. Did you really saw the giant sized pez today? Today? You're not talking about the massive one, like the regular full-sized one. Is that what you mean or like the big jumbo one, like the oversized one?

The one that, okay, so we've got to define, not human size, but larger than standard. How's that? Okay. Like, like, this size? double, like double size, like a double XL Pez. Okay, so that was like normal, right, Brian? This is a normal. This is a normal Bobafet Pez. Okay. So it's like a G.I. Joe doll, like 12 inch pez dispenser.

I don't think you can get those anymore. I think those are like... All 12 inches. All 12 inches, baby. All right. Well, this sounds great. Let's play for these fine people. Sounds good. By the way, we'll talk about the prizes that they're going to win at the end because, you know, they're not here to get excited and salivate about them. That's true. Your first question, sports, the world of sports. Let's just get this.

Let's rip this band-aid off. Only sports I know are the ones that Goofy taught me. Oh. Wait a minute. What about Dorff? Did you learn about sports from Dorff as well? Only golf. No, Dorff on golf.

You can't do that. You'll hurt your knees. That's totally true. By the way, it came up earlier. Do you have the sucker punch soundtrack on vinyl? On vinyl, no. On CD, yes. Oh, we know where you can get it.

Yeah, good news. They have it at second and Charles, wherever your closest location is. Second in Charles. Yeah. All right. Sports and religion. Let's combine those two and one question. Which of these athletes are ordained as ministers?

All right. So which of these athletes could marry you if you needed them to. What is athletes? All right. What is athlete? What is athlete? Like, you know, like professional sportsman. Like that.

Sorry, do you want me to add an extra. syllable and say athlete. Atholete. Because there's no extra vowel in the middle of the, between the TH and the L. I'm just saying it right. Atholite. Athletes. Athletes foot. Atholite. Sure. Your choices are, Randy Moss,

Daryl Strawberry, Willie Mays, Clyde Drexler, Meadowlark Lemon, and Reggie White. Which of these are? Meadowlark Lemons. I've always just like saying that. Metalark Lemon. It's such a, such a, how the hell does anyone know this? Unless they married you.

This is totally, this is your, this is your throwaway question to just see if you can randomly get some points. I'm taking two. I don't feel good about three. Scott's got two. I'm taking one because there's only one on this list that, yeah, there's only one that I've actually ever seen play. So there we go. That's my. All right.

Fair enough. Yeah. Well, the only one that you guys, as a combo, as a team got right, is metal lark lemon, are two fruits. Daryl Strawberry and Meadowlark Lemon both are ordained as ministers, and then Reggie White is also a holy color. Strawberry lemon white. Oh, that's interesting. Strawberry lemon and white. Exactly.

Like your three paint styles you can get at the local lows. It sounds like just like a dollar store version of the ice cream that's supposed to be chocolate, strawberry, and vanilla. But this one comes with these flavors. That's right. Exactly. Yeah, I like that. All right. Well, neither of us have gained any.

thing on that one. That's all right. Let's get that out of the way. How about one that that I can verify because I was there this last weekend? Ikea products. Which of these are names of actual IKEA products? Skanka,

kerbis, Billy, flunnel, boomerang, and Falsk Tnam. Falsk Tnam. Falsk Tnam. Falsk Tnam. Oh my lord. And you gave me trouble about at because I didn't go athlete you're going to give

yeah whatever yes I'm going to give you because this is the Swedish word athlete's an English word and you live in America that's right what what's it what's it what was it again which one do you want the words again you want all these words

false gnom false gnaum false gnaum hey don't away do you what's your heritage do you know like who who came here and from what country do you know that stuff like you French Cajun

I'm American well I know you are now but you know what I mean Like, I'm, according to my mom who went and did that 23 and me, I'm mostly British. But my dad, I know, has got a lot of Irish and I'm so. Okay. But don't we all? All right.

So you're closer to I bit on that end then, because I think Brian, you got a lot of British here. There's a lot of, there's a lot of Scotch Irish people in this area. There's a lot of Scottish in me. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I got Native American in me. Yeah. I've got, uh, so mine's all.

Well, the reason I ask is mine's all Swedish, pretty much on both sides. And you'd think I'd know more about this shit, and I don't. I know nothing about any of this. So I feel like I'm unfair to my hair. Or not unfair. I have not honored my heritage by learning more about IKEA names than I know. Right. All right.

Hurry and choose yours. There you go. There we go. Now he's locked in. Okay, good. Yeah, I was hoping you'd do that before you saw what Hendrick Swenson said in the chat room, because that's a really funny joke. Well, I don't have the chat room pulled up.

Oh, good. Well, good. Even if I did. Excellent. Your answers are, well, there's a Billy the Bookcase, which, you know, if you know your Jonathan Colton, IKEA song, then you know Billy the bookcase says hello. I almost did that one. That seemed so stupid that it had to be right. Yeah.

Skanka, which neither of you guessed is cookware. Damn it. Did it reveal the answers? There we go. Or did it? Nope. There we go. Now reveal the answers.

Wow. The other one is Boomerang. Only. I only got it wrong. There's a clothes hanger. The Boomerang Clos hanger. Yeah, I only, oh, no, I got Billy. I got Billy.

I just chose, I chose that Falksnam thing. So what did he say in the chat that it was? Hold on. Falks name. Oh, shit. Falks lights a false, false name. I'm a terrible, I'm a terrible, a Swedish heritage person. Yeah, that's awful.

That's what you are. I apologize to the story. All right. Well, let's go to something that I think you guys should. know about, which is movies, especially movies that feature Sean Connery. We watched quite a few on FilmSack.

Which of these actors appeared in a movie with Sean Connery? Your choices are, Vincent Price, Roger Moore, Sally Field, Ving Rhames, Jack Nicholson, and Meg Ryan. Three of those people appeared in a film with Sean Connery, three of them, did not. Shit.

Oh my gosh, dude Um This one seems so stupid I'm gonna go with that one Are you doing one or more? You can do more than one or what are you gonna do? I'm not telling you that punk I'm doing one because

I'm doing two, how's that? I'll do one because I just I will take it. I like my chances better Okay Well, you both did pick the same one And do you know the movie that he was in with Bing Rames? No

also featured Catherine Zeta Jones Yeah, yeah, her butt's in the air And she's sliding underneath the thing That's, I remember that way, entrapment Is that right? We watched entrapment. It's called entrapment, yes, exactly. He was also in the Presidio,

with Presidio with Meg Ryan. Right. And he was in The Princess and the cobbler with Vincent Price. Scott going with one answer. Good job, God. One point. a one point win

I did it for tooth man I just yeah what you did what I just knew Roger Moore that is so stupid that it had to be something that was true yeah I kind of was tempted on that one and the reason I only went with one because I just every time I do two one of them is going to be wrong because these were all hard today nobody knows this shit

well I feel like Roger Moore and Sean Connery were in the same movie obviously you know everybody wants to connect him with the James Bunn thing but I feel like Roger Moore was in a movie movie with, was it Pierce Brosnan or was it Mars Attacks? Was Roger Moore in Mars

attacks? No. Oh, interesting. Maybe. It was something that had two Bond actors together in it, and it wasn't Conry and Moore, but it was more on somebody. Interesting. I know, whenever you bring up Roger Moore and you think of stuff that isn't Bond, all I think about is Roger Moore

and Jean-Claude Van Damme in gold, what is that called the golden? Gold finger, no. Stupid name. I can't remember the gold something and it's a gold gun That's all I ever think about Like in my mind

Roger Moore did James Bond And then that one Van Dam movie That's all I can think of Huh So I don't know if they've ever worked together Well there was a movie with where TV's Travis says the quest

The quest that's it Not golden something That's the gold That's the big giant gold thing We made fun of Yeah that's what it was though In that movie There was a big golden something

They were all trying to get Well there was a movie with where Roger Moore plays a Q-like character where he's holding a cat. I'm trying to think if it's Spice World, maybe, and there's also another cameo of a bond in that one. I know, I should know better, right? You're the only one, I think they would know. I don't know.

I've never seen Spice World. We've got to get that on Film Sack. We got to eat it for Film Sack. It's horror bad, but hard good. Let's make it happen. Why not? I'm watching the Beach Blanket Bingo and Scott's watching. What did you agree to?

What did I pick? I forgot. It was something I don't like it all. Oh, the Meg. I freaking hate the Meg. Oh, the Meg. The Meg. Hated it.

I really, truly, genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, hated that movie. I really just liked it. I'm taking Beach Blanket Bingo so we can see the Meg people. You're welcome. All right. Thank you, Brian, for that. So who won what, Brian? We got winners.

Congratulations going out to Ian Toothman. You're getting a copy of Curse of the Dead Gods and Eternal Threads on Steam, but Hello, Kitty Pez in New Orleans, you're getting a copy of Honey, I joined a cult on Steam. Also a good game.

That's also a good way. There's no games for both of you. No losers here to that. Congratulations. That's right. You're a winner. One of you's more of a winner, but both of you got great games, and we love doing this for you guys.

So if you're somebody out there who is a non-live person on a Monday, and you want to participate in this contest. Don't tell dead people to call in. He's got. Well, look, it's okay to vote if you're dead. Get on the website over there. Frogpants.com slash TMS, and you'll find a link to do this.

Okay? We want you in here. Brian, done away. So if you've been on a live, do it now. Yeah, do it now. It's been a blast hanging out with you. Do you got any cool plans this week? You can do anything fun before we see you on Wednesday?

Yeah, I've got Alex Kidd for my Sega Master System coming today. I'm pretty stoked about that. Can we pop up my Sega Master system again? Yep, we got a whole play retro coming this Friday, dealing all things Alex Kidd Oh, I do have a, I, I'm doing a laser disk parties now because, in the Discord server, because my friend brought me a Laserdisc player. Oh, nice. Look at you. So, 30 minutes into the stream, you have to pause everything and say, all right, let me flip over the movie.

Incorrect. It is a Sony flipper. It flips. Yeah. What if it's on multiple discs? Yeah, then what? Well, then we'll just deal with that and we have to. I mean, geez, man.

It's rain on my parade. All right. Well, have fun with your old-ass Laserdisc, and we'll see you soon. Kiss our butts. All right, there he goes. That was fine. Guys, we have time for a little bit of news. Yeah. So we're going to bring it to you now. Here we go. I don't watch the news. It's the news brought to you by. I hear there's a new word on the street with Greg Street and Scott Johnson tomorrow.

Scott, tell me, is that true? It is true. And tomorrow we're going to record it live. It'll be right here at frogpants. TV, either Twitch or the YouTube link. You'll find both those there when you go there. And it'll be at noon Mountain, which is 1 p.m. Central, which is where Greg is. Anyway, we're going to have a couple more staff members from his brand new video game company on. And we're going to talk about prototyping and the stage that is prototyping for something like an MMO, like they're building. So come and find out. Some of the live folks that will be there.

We may take some of your live questions. We'll definitely have some questions before that. but we're all about what it takes to prototype for a game as big as a full-blown MMO because that's the stage they're in right now and they want to talk about it. So check that out tomorrow. You can also check it out on the podcast as well.

You can find all the details at frogpants.com slash street today. Okay. A BBC presenter. These are the British Broadcasting Company presenters. Sure, sure. Or corporate, what are they? I just saw four of those presenters. celebrating the 40th anniversary of the BBC or whatever,

whatever they were celebrating. Sure. It's got to be more than that. Oh, it's got to be waiting on that, right? Yeah, but it was something for the holiday British bake-off, and it was the four presenters competing on that. Oh, fun. Oh, really?

So they're making the, they're baking. They're making the food. It's only one episode. It's just, they do this every Christmas. They do a celebrity edition, and then they do for New Year. is a, let's bring four players back that people seem to really like. I don't know why I didn't know that. It sounds like fun.

It's totally fun. And they brought back Lottie the Hottie from, I can remember what season she was in. Yeah, you like Lottie the Hottie. I do like Lottie the Hottie. Yeah. In her eyes. I don't know what she does makeup wise, but man, she is a master of eye makeup. And her baking is good, but her eye makeup is on point.

Yeah, you might call it I bakeup. I get it. Yeah, and you get it. I'm just kidding. I get it. All right, anyway, BBC presenter. Yeah, check this out. Has apologized after giving viewers the middle finger in a news broadcast.

Oh, no. I'm sure that Zoe knows about this story because it was all over Britain when it happened, but we're just getting to it now. BBC presenters apologized after that. Miriam Mosheary, a chief presenter on the BBC News Channel, was seen to make an obscene gesture after a countdown to start of the show or for the start of. the show. She quickly realized, or realized, she released. I've released the problem. Released. She was live on the air and reverted to normal. This is like what Bush, remember Bush did this once before a press conference? Yeah, there's that great video of him like, given the, given the finger to the camera. Yeah. I, at the time, I have to, I have to say this. At the

time, I thought that made politicians slightly cooler because I had an attitude about that. A little bit more human right yeah because i'm like i'm looking at the the photo of uh of mariam masheri given the finger and that's you know it's it's kind of cute the face that she's making is even better that goes along with it's adorable here chat i'll show you what it looks like so you can have this burned into your brain oh let me kill the feud background there it is look at her there she's like oh big old birdie bird i mean when you got cameras and recording and stuff going on around You usually know not to make any sudden moves or pick a nose or do anything stupid. Sure, sure, but something like that.

You know, maybe we could all get over the middle finger. Maybe it's, you know, it's really, it's just a finger. And that finger is visible all the rest of the time, too, people. She also went. Yeah, I spilled a little bit of this tea on my face. Who does that? That's like a lateral spill. I didn't even spill down.

I spelt sideways. Like a dumbass. Anyway, uh, she did a 70s bird that's an important thing to mention oh yes right the the the closed fist raised as opposed to the the 80s bird where you've got the 80s bird the knuckles the knuckles offering a protection a vanguard if you will that's right in front of the finger right and if you really pull those knuckles down I mean you can get that is that's offensive as hell right there look at that thing yeah that is that is a monster bird right we can't allow this but if we're just like we can't we can't we can't have that in today's modern society you kidding me anyway um she quickly realized she was on the air and reverted normal the incident was flagged by the clean feed at the tv room account on twitter slash x it wrote been a while since the middle finger gesture made it on its way to the bbc news uh responding marsheri said she had been uh it had been having a private

joke my guess is her and the cameraman having a little moment there uh-huh it's fine they're friends yeah No big deal. Presenter said, hey, I'm so sorry about this. I was having a private joke with the team in the gallery, pretending to count down as the director was counting me down from 10 to 0, including the finger to show the number. When we got to number one, I turned the finger around as a joke and did not realize that would be caught on camera.

It was a private joke with the team, and I'm so sorry, it went out on air. That's fine. You're fine. I think it's fine. You know, there's so much stuff that would just be, there's so many bigger problems in the, in the world. Let's get over the word shit. Let's get over the middle finger. Let's, you know.

It's time. It's time has come. Exactly. Exactly. No more getting hung up on stupid stuff, people. Right. Exactly. Let's see. I'll do this one more real quick here. A lost tomato was found aboard the International Space Station after

eight months of being there. We have to go back Kate. We've got to go back for the tomato. I'll go back for the tomato. Members of the International Space Station crew said astronaut Frank Rubio has now been cleared of allegations he ate one of the first tomatoes harvested in space.

He never did. He said he didn't. No one believed him. Clear it of allegations. Yeah. Hardcore allegations. Astronaut Jasmine Mogbelly said during a live stream event celebrating the 25th anniversary of the station that the remains of a tiny tomato had been found months later,

eight months to be exact, after being replaced or misplaced by Rubio. Quote, our good friend Frank Rubio, who headed home already, has been blamed for quite a while for eating the tomato. But we can exonerate him now. We found it. He returned to Earth in September and has been the target of joking accusations for months that he ate the space-grown fruit. It's really funny.

So, like, all this time, like, they lost the tomato and they just blame this poor astronaut. This poor guy. Jokingly, jokingly blamed this poor astronaut. Yeah, he's at home trying to acclimate to his gravity again, just getting all accused. He says, I spent so many hours looking for that thing, he said, during an ISS live stream, I'm sure the delicate, sorry, the de, what is that word? Oh, desiccated, duh, desicated. Tomato will show up at some point and vindicate me years in the future. He did not reveal where the tomato was found or what its condition was,

but Rubio had earlier predicted it would be in a stale or state, rather, of advanced decay due to the humidity aboard the station. I didn't know the station was humid. I guess that makes sense. I didn't know that either, but I guess. I guess they do that, because that would be in the greenhouse. Oh, right. So that would be in the, you know, the area where they're trying to grow stuff and, and, uh, yeah.

If you brought some of that home, imagine how much money you could get for ISS grown food. You know what I mean? It feels like, uh, such an easy thing to, um, to fake, to, to promote falsely. Like, you know, it's like the chips of the, uh, the, the Berlin Wall. like people are selling those you know left and right and you wonder well could this just be a chunk of concrete yeah came from the sidewalk in front of their house it's like and especially something that can decay like vegetables you'd have to encase that thing in resin and have like a NASA certificate even then I don't know if I'd believe it yeah even then you could still fake that pretty good I read I just finished a book that uh well a couple months ago

but it was a book about a guy whose dad was a serial killer and because he was so shunned by society because his dad was so infamous and everyone treated him like he was just as bad he decided he was going to make money off his dad's killings so what he would do is he would sell

because the guy the killer is called the handyman because he was a guy that worked with tools a lot and so the son would go to like these garage sales and find old tools rusty old tools and then sell them as they were used by his dad. Yeah, and he would make millions or make thousands on eBay with it. Just constantly making money.

Wow. I don't know why that really stuck out to me. I went, I'll bet there's a lot more of that going on than people think. Yeah, probably. Fictional book, right? Oh, yeah, totally fictional. Yeah, yeah. But still, it felt, you know, it felt real to me.

It was real to me, damn. It's real to me. It's real to me. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, we'll have some time with Bobby, which, you know, we've missed him. He was gone a couple of weeks ago. So we had to do other stuff. But having him back to the tree.

The world doesn't stop for Bobby. That's true. The world doesn't stop. I heard earlier in the chat that he was maybe stuck at a post office. I hope he's away from now. So we'll find out, I guess, the hard way. We're going to get the science of stamps apparently. He claimed, he said in the chat, he says, I'm determined to be back for science.

So we'll see. Anyway, we'll come back and check that out with us and have your, greatest fears realized. After Brian plays a song, here to break things up. Brian, what did you do? Yeah, this is, listen, friend of the show, we heard from him earlier. He contributed information about the

source of the name Second and Charles. It's Shane Maddox and listen to him sing the song and twirl because he says, hello, cover indie master. It's that time again to announce that my band, Else, has new

music to share. Seven, Few is an EP that includes three new songs from our Milwaukee-Madison-based hard rock band. I know you think I only like to sing sad songs, but hopefully you'll be okay with one of these. They're sad. No, I'm kidding. They're great.

Here's a blur. Seven Cs, seven sins, seven so few. After completing their experimental acoustic album here waiting in late 2021, the band excitedly returned to their hard rock and progressive roots to begin working on their next project. You can find their music,

online go check it out at your your favorite streaming service um big thanks to Shane for sending this in here is the song more to see from seven so few Pride apart without warning now, left to float far from shore. Giving hope to cope with deep regret to take for what's in store. And I know, and I know it's naughty. I know And I know it's so hard to be And I know

And I know We're lost It seems Just know, just know There's more to see Trift apart With in distance now Off the coast at death door

Take note Don't let me go I'm going to be able to be. Thank you. And when the wall I'm coming down Just here my voice be far in the ground

I win the wall I'm coming down Just hear my voice Oh, oh, oh, wow for me. Oh, the love just to me. Now have gone. Oh, oh God. And I know, and I know

it's not easy. See, and I know, and I know, it's so hard to be, and I know, and I know, we're lost it seems. Just know, just know, just know there's more to see. Why choose a sleep number smart bed? Can I make my sight softer? Can I make my sight firmer? Can we sleep cooler? Sleep number does that. Cools up to eight times fast. and let you choose your ideal comfort on either side, your sleep number setting. It's the sleep number biggest sale of the year, all beds on sale, up to 50% off the

limited edition smart bed, plus free premium delivery with any smart bed and adjustable base. Ends Labor Day. All sleep number smart beds offer temperature solutions for your best sleep. Check it out at a sleep number store or sleepnumber.com today. They wanted to be visited by a major member of the human race, and to have an equivalent member of theirs visit us. Talk to the Pope. knows everything.

And we return. Tell me who that was. Well, we know who it was, but tell me why that song's cool. It's cool because it's Shane Maddox and his band Else. That one from their brand new EP called Seven So Few. That is the song called More to See.

You know, I love, So Claire is very anti-Pope. We knew that. Sure. But I love that I can play a thing like this. Talk to the Pope. He knows everything. Just a random clip that doesn't actually claim.

It's just, it's obviously meant to be played ironically. And she still has to like make a stance in the chat. He knows F all, she says. Right. All right. It's not. We're not making the statement, Claire. Yeah.

We're not promoting the Pope. We're just, uh, no. Just talking about the Pope. We're promoting the Pope. I don't know what we're going to get Bobby in yeah that's happening he's back he made yeah we are yeah we'll see what he was up to at the post office in a minute we'll hold him to the fire see what he says feet to the fire feet to the fire there's still some wrong one there it is Bob is hungry and the soup looks good he's also was anyway stuck at the

freaking place where you take your mail what was that for what's going on you trying to get last minute gifts in the mail, that sort of thing? Yeah, that sort of thing. And there was a huge long line because everybody's doing the same thing. But I just went to the, I just went to the self-service, no one goes to the self-service kiosk for some reason. Yeah, the self-service

queue is where it's at. I'm with you 100%. I don't know if I've ever, what do you, how does that work? You just go and put stamps on things and shove them in a hole? I mean, it's that simple. Yeah, you walk up to the machine and you say I'm here to mail stuff. And that's it.

And then you follow all the prompts on the screen, and it prints out the postage, and you stick it on and put it in a hole in the wall, and you're good to go. That actually seems all right. I would do that. No problem. Oh, good. Well, you made it. You got everything out. I'm here.

It was close, actually, because I don't know, it was like a nightmare there. There were people were yelling at each other. Oh, no, really? Oh, geez. Don't do that, people. We heard a couple fighting in the mall yesterday. And that annoyed me because I'm just like, come on, dude, it's a holiday. But for the most part, people seem to be pretty cheery and nice to each other.

And lots of like, oh, excuse me, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step in your way. It's like, oh, no problem. We're all good. You know, like lots of nice interactions. But this one couple dude, peck, pick, pick, pack, pick. They're like they were going to go home and get divorced. And that never makes me happy.

But look, if you're going to tell me there's a fight at a post office, I believe you. That's where they happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That place is bad. It started from one guy just, he was carrying boxes in a pie. It was like a cartoon.

He was carrying boxes in a pile that was so tall. probably couldn't, like, his face before he didn't see in front of him. Oh, I love it. Yeah. That's great. So then he, uh, he ran into one of those metal benches on the side of the, like, hit his shins. And then, and then he blurted out a curse word. And then someone was there next to him with a kid and got mad at him about that. And then it was just, everybody started getting mad at each other. Wow. Did you feel like you were close to having to intervene or, you know, stand up for anything? Oh, I would, no, psh. I am not an intervener, Scott.

You're not an intervener. It sounds like a vina. I'm not an entavina. All right, well, it's good to have you here. We have not had our science thing for a while. You were in Bermuda or something. I was in the Bahamas. Bahamas, sorry.

You were in the Bahamas, one of the B words, and you were like, I don't know what you were doing in the Bahamas. It was a wedding. It was a wedding on a Disney cruise. It was pretty cool. Oh, that is cool. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

I wasn't sure why you were gone, but it sounded like fun. And we missed you, though, and we had no science. So what are we supposed to do? without science? I had lots of science there, but I couldn't share it with you because I didn't pay for enough data. Oh, well, that'll happen on those ships.

Also, I paid for enough data, and it sucked ass. It was terrible. Yeah, it's not great either. I did pay for it one day to get some stuff, and it was very expensive for even the one day, and it was not what was advertised. Yeah, cruise data, terrible, terrible investment, everybody. Don't do it.

If you can, just wait until you get to ports. They have usually LTE or 5E or something. if you have a decent network and you'll be fine and just enjoy being unplugged yeah yes exactly take it as a take it an adventure to be shared in the moment yeah we just thought it would help us if when we split up on different parts of the boat that kim could get me or i could get her easily and it never worked right like disney has this great uh app that you share you like you you can use it to link up with people on the ship if you have their like app by each other's idea on the app and and you can text each other for free.

Like, it's a free service. Right. Yeah, and there's no, you know, don't forget, you're out in the middle of the ocean. There are no cell towers in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, they use satellite internet. Yeah, and even that, it ain't that Elon Musk fancy stuff that I hear is actually okay. Well, the big problem is you've got thousands of people all trying to use the same.

Yeah. That's like being in a concert and thinking you're going to have good LTE at a concert. Oh, God, yeah. You're not going to. Let me post this on Instagram. Why isn't it connecting? So are you telling me, Scott, that the cruise that you went on, they didn't have like a messaging app that you could use?

If they did, we were unaware of it. They very well may have, like as you were saying it, I went, oh, did we just forget to check or did we not ask the right questions? It's entirely possible we did. I asked because I'm going, we already booked a cruise on the same ship that you two went on to the same place. Oh, that's cool. Okay, I'm going to try, we're going to try to think of anything I made.

have left or altered that you could check. Can you go to a state room 8.5.3.1? You didn't take only your memories and leave only your footprints, Scott? No, I think I may have messed with something, and I'm got to remember what, though, because there is something, I have a tendency to do. Whatever state room he was in, there's no towel. I do sometimes move stuff around on purpose in public places to see if it changes next time I go there.

Yeah. So I have to think about that. But that's cool, dude. That was a great ship. It was like brand. It was only two months old when we took the cruise. It was really modern, super fancy.

And they did it great. It was great. It was really good. I could even eat those French desserts they had because they weren't full of sugar. They were like, you know, the way the French people do it, they don't sugar them up like we do.

It was really good. Oh, yeah. Anyway, well, it's good to have you here. Let's talk about some science. What did you bring in your big fat bag of science? Have you guys, so have you guys ever, but not have you ever been to a coffee shop, I'm sure you have. But when you're at the coffee shop,

have you ever seen the barista before they put the beans in the grinder? They spritz it with some water first? No. Hi, Brian. Have you noticed that? No, but when I do the French press, I wet the grounds before I run the water through, and I wonder if that's what you're going to talk about.

Why do we do that? Yeah, why do that? Well, it's specifically before you grind them. So I don't know why. Before you grind them, okay. Yeah. You wet the, you spritz the beans before you grind them and especially useful when you're making espresso. And I used to see people do that and I'd heard coffee nerds talk about doing that.

And I'm a big coffee fan as well, but I always thought, that sounds like a bunch of nuts. My cynical science brain was like, that sounds like nonsense. Why would you, why would that matter? It's so little water too. Like some people will spritz it and other people will take like the end of a teaspoon spoon from your, you know, from your cabinet drawer and just let one drop of water fall into it and then stir it around. Yeah.

And I'm like, that sounds like, what are you doing? Right. But it turns out some research was done and it actually does help to do that before you grain the coffee. It increases the yield of the grind. Oh. And it improves the flavor of the coffee afterwards. I do notice that when I grind the beans at home,

God, sounds like a euphemism. That as soon as I pulled the, I almost made a spit take there with Bobby. That when I pull out the little plastic drawer with all the grounds in it, like the static that's built up from grinding the beans usually sends a ton of grounds just in the air and all over the countertop. So like, spritzing with water for that reason, and that reason alone sounds like a great reason. So you hit upon exactly the reason why. This technique is used by barista bristas. It's actually has a name.

It's called the Ross Droplet technique. And I guess some dude named Ross put one drop of water into his beans every time you ground them. Really? Okay. Wow. Yeah. So, and the research was done by, it was a team up by a computational materials chemist named Christopher Hendon, who teamed up with a volcanologist of all people. Oh.

A volcano scientist. Joseph Dufek to figure this out. And it's not as weird of a team-up as you think, especially when you realize what you said, Brian, which is that this is all has to do with static electricity, because volcanologists know very well that volcano eruptions with the giant plumes of smoke, they're made up of tiny little particles that generate tons of static electricity. And that's why, yeah, that's why you will often see lightning storms in the plumes of a volcano that's. erupting. I didn't know that. I always wondered that, because you see pictures of that all the time, and I'm like, is this just insult the injury? Like, ancients would have seen it as God's wrath or whatever.

Exactly. Like, hey, sorry about the volcano. And here's some lightning. Yeah. That's intense. Yeah. Claire's asking, can you actually taste the difference? I said it improves the flavor of the coffee.

I'm going to get there, and yes, you can. They tested it out, and there's a good reason why. so let me explain. So the static electricity for the coffee grinding, the reason, well, Hendon, the material scientist, he wanted to investigate how static electricity plays a role in the final product of coffee grinding. Had a suspicion that this might have something to do with it. Coffee officinados and fans and everything who grind their own coffee have been saying for a long time that adding a little bit of water reduces the static. And that's why they did it is because you can see all these videos of people who, will spritz their beans before they put it through the coffee grinder, there's a noticeable, if you don't do that, you end up with like tons of coffee grounds stuck to the side of the grinder. Yes, yes. And so they always said, well, if you're going to, these people super fans of coffee, they would

say, well, you actually lose a part of a couple tenths of an ounce of the coffee from that. And you're trying to measure out your coffee beans for like a perfect cup, you know. And so they would say, well, if you do this, you get almost all of the coffee grounds out very easily. It doesn't stick. And so people had noticed that and they wanted to investigate. And so there's plausibility to it, first of all. One of the reasons why this works is that, well, espresso in particular requires a very fine grind, right? You have to grind those coffee beans up into almost a powder.

Yeah. And what happens is the fine grinding of the beans creates a ton of static electricity. It's called the triboelectric effect. And it's the parallel where volcanoes comes in because it's the same thing going on in plumes of ash, as I explained. The tiny particles of coffee, they all bump into each other in the grinder. They're being ground up and bumping into each other very, very fast. And it creates, as they're bumping into each other, they exchange electrons. which is how static electricity is formed.

Like when you, you rub a balloon on your head, which it's actually exchanging electrons with your hair, and that's how it forms static electricity. There's a charge buildup in the balloon and in your hair afterwards because of that exchange. So the same thing happens in a grinder, and all these particles of coffee now are electrically charged, and a bunch of the negatively charged ones will clump together,

and a bunch of the positively charged ones will clump together and create these dense, it's a it's it's it's just all these different clumps that are clumping together and it's not a very evenly distributed density of the grounds right and so when you push water through it it doesn't go through evenly and there might actually be chunks of it because there's clumped together that don't get very much water through it at all and so the the distribution's not as is even and then also you can see obviously why the the clinging would happen on the side of the thing because they're all statically charged yeah because the same thing thing, right? Like I pull it open, the grounds fly out, the statically charged ones, but the other ones that stick to the side. Then I have to get something out to brush those out. And guess what? It sticks to whatever I used to brush those out. So, yeah, I've totally using this technique. Don't know why I didn't think of it before, but that's brilliant. So yeah, you use a little, there's two ways to do it. If you have a little spray bottle, like

one of those tiny ones. Yeah, like a little atomizer. Yeah, you can do just one sprit. It doesn't take much at all. Literally those people who use a drop of water, that works too. And it's just increases the humidity inside the grinder. And the reason that's helpful is because the moisture in the air, the water droplets from the humidity in the grinder actually absorbs some of those electrons and help to redistribute them evenly inside the environment. And so static electricity doesn't have as much of a chance to build up. Okay.

Well, here's a question for you. If somebody has an industrial-sized professional grinder and they're outside, okay, they're doing this in their backyard. And it's a big one. It's the kind you're using a big kitchen. I don't know for like a commercial use. And you're out there doing it in the open air and you're not adding and you're in a dry climate. You're here in, let's say you're in Utah or Colorado. And you're not adding any of this water to it. Do you run the risk of a lightning strike hitting you in the way that the volcano. Many a barista in training have died that way. Oh, man. That's how you learn. that's how you learn but that wouldn't do that right we're not talking about those levels of

you probably get the static shock though potentially that's true yeah yeah yeah well maybe not I don't know because it's the individual grounds that are being charged sure that's maybe not the machine itself yeah yeah yeah because in my head I'm just I'm picturing these electrified little beans they're not even in ground form yet right they're just going and hurry up and get water on those things but it sounds like it's not nearly that risky it's probably No, I don't think so. I think you're safe. You might have some stuff fly out in the kitchen.

You might have a little cleanup to do or whatever. Yeah, just wear some goggles in case the beans fly out. Isn't it funny, though? We have so many things as humans where we'll do a thing because they've probably been doing this for centuries, right? Right. Because it, for whatever reason, got passed down that, yes, this is the best way to do it. However, you describe the reasons. Maybe they're different than the scientific ones you brought today.

But we do these things in these traditions, and they end up having this scientific basis to them. And we didn't even know we were adhering to some. Right. People started doing it because it worked without knowing the science behind why it worked. And so they just started doing it. And then they figured out, oh, here's why it works and here's why it helps. Yeah, I love that. That's some of my favorite science to read about and to talk about on our show and everything is things that we've taken for granted but have never been experimentally shown. And that's what is going on here.

So going back to what was mentioned earlier about the flavor, the reason that they show that it can improve the flavor is because, and consistency of flavor, by the way, that's the, that's one of the big things, is consistent flavor, is that when the grounds go through, it, some of it, it clumps up and it doesn't evenly distribute through all through the puck, they call it the puck of grounds. and so a lot of the there are like 2,000 different chemical compounds in a cup of coffee and they're all coming from those ground up beans and if you're not evenly pushing the water through it you're not necessarily getting them all or in even distribution right so so that's what they are saying could be used that they noticed some other things as well as a result of their experimentation they noticed that light roasted beans were less likely had less of a static charge than dark roasted beans

and that makes sense if you think about it dark roast the reason a dark roast is a dark roast is because it's been roasted for longer they're the same beans or they can be the same beans they've just been roasted for longer and so they're drier a light roasted bean has already some

some small amount of moisture in the bean itself so it would you'd notice less of this static problem with those types of beans. And yeah, so they're one of the ways they try to sell this to, in this research, you know, you always have to justify your research if you want to get funding.

Is that the industry, the industry, the like coffee association industry, I don't know what they're called, but they have a standard for making espresso, but it's like these narrow ranges of temperatures and a certain pressure that the water is supposed to get pushed through the grounds and everything. But a lot of baristas and a lot of different coffee places, they don't follow this. There's not like a coffee police that requires you to use these standards. So a lot of places don't follow the standards. And they're saying that this kind of lends credence to the idea that these standards actually matter. And there are measurable ways that setting standards

for making this can actually create a consistent from place to place and from coffee shop to coffee shop you can get a consistent brew because they're figuring out the science of why these different techniques work. Do we have an answer as to why Starbucks burns all their shit? Why do they burn their bean?

There's just too hot water, I think. Is that what's going on? What it is? Their water is too hot. Their electrons are out of control over there. Get your shit together. Stupid place. All right.

Well, there you go. I love this kind of crap. I love everyday science, you know? Like something, why does that thing do the thing it does right over there? I don't know. Let's figure it out. That's way fun. So having you here and talking about this stuff is always good.

Tell me what you're talking about on your show right now all around science. Well, the episode that we just released today was, I was nervous about doing it. because I've avoided this topic for a long time because it's really complicated but I think we did an all right job with it and that is we dived into some recent news from IBM about quantum computing and some chips that they've been working on

and some advances that they're making and the reason we decided to do it is because quantum computing is not just like a side show fun thing to watch companies do like quantum computing is a big deal and it's going to affect everyone listening to this because it's going it has the potential to break all of of what do you call it the encryption that the internet uses data encryption quantum computing possibly within the

next 10 years will will make modern data encryption obsolete damn really really And we have to figure out how to do it. And I talk about on that episode how that, what quantum computing does and how it's going to make, how it's going to break encryption. Interesting. I've been following some stuff on quantum computing, but not for this. I didn't, this hasn't come up in any of the stuff I've been reading. So I didn't realize that was a thing. But I have been reading about how I'm trying to understand why all quantum computers, the ones they show you a photo of, they all look like Andy Warren.

hall chandeliers from the 70s. I cannot figure out why they look the way they look. They literally are like in a room hanging, a bunch of golden copper shit. It's usually very symmetrical and rounded and like something out of that devs show, which I guess was a quantum computer in the dev show. That's what they were trying to portray. And they all look like that for real. And I still don't understand why.

Why isn't it some beige case somewhere? Why is it this weird thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they have no reason to cover it, first of all, because it's just they're working on them in labs. Of course. Yeah, they don't need the retail cover, for sure. Yeah. But I'll give you the quick teaser, and then if you want to know more, you can go listen to the episode, which is a regular bit on the computer you're using right now is just a switch that's on or off, right?

It's electricity is flowing through it or it's not. Right, right. That's the zero and the one. Well, the zero and a one in a quantum computer is the spin up or down. of an individual electron. So they need very advanced machinery that is made out of very specific materials and held at very specific low temperatures

in order to control an individual electron. So that's why. Okay. That makes sense. All right. They just are, you know, I can't wait until they get to the point where they don't look so weird.

Because they look like, they look fake. They look like 2001 Space Odyssey set this. They're just funky. But anyway, check that out. All around science. wherever I get your podcast. Bobby, this has been a real pleasure. And I hope your, you know, I hope your Christmas season is just full of miracles, you know? Yeah, me too. Full of science, too. Yeah, scientific miracles. Yeah, go break some science and we'll talk to you

next time. All right. Brian, we're back to. I wanted to explain mistletoe. Why? Yeah. Why? We were at an IKEA and they had barrels of mistletoe. Beryl. Oh, really? Yeah. Really? Our local one over here. I think you've been to this one, in fact. I have, yeah. I think That might have been the first one I ever went to. It's the one where Fletcher and I played around with some of the giant snakes. Oh, that's right. There's photos of this somewhere. There's photos somewhere from one of the first nerdaculars where the bits of the Fletchers went to IKEA.

Was it that you guys didn't have one yet or something? Yeah, we hadn't had one in Colorado. We didn't get ours in Colorado until 10 years ago, 15 years ago. It seems impossible that Utah got something first. We never do. Right, right. All right. Well, I'll take my wins when I can.

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then your cleanings will be fine, quick, and pleasant. And I'll be able to listen to Dana Carvey and David Spade talk over Steve Martin and Martin Short during that cleaning. Oh, wow. That's a room full of talkers, too. Holy crap. It is, especially Martin Short, like, Who is going to be talking the most in that episode?

Yeah, my guess is, my guess is, oh, gosh, I don't know who will talk. You know what? Probably him. Probably Martin Short. He's going to talk about it. Probably Martin Short. Yeah. By the way, when I was doing stand-up in Canada.

Well, anyway, all right, let's do a song. What do you go? MSG wrote in and said, please stop putting me in Chinese food. No, MSG wrote in and said, hello, spanks and bottoms. On TMS 2535, you discussed Eddie Murphy's party all the time. which reminded me of this amazing cover by Thank You Scientist. Hey, it's what we could call our segment with Bobby. Thank you, Scientist.

So I figured I should share it with the rest of the community. And if you remember the original music video, I highly recommend checking out the video for the cover. Love MSG. Nice. We love hearing from Madison Square Garden. It always makes my day. From the single that they released in 2019,

here is Thank You Scientist and Party All the Time. Thank you. My girl wants to party all the time, party all the time, party all the time, party all the time. Girl, I can't understand it, why you want to hurt me. After all of the things I've done for you. Buy your champagne and roses, put diamonds on your fingers Diamonds on your fingers Still you hang out all night, what am I to do

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We tried to make her go to react But she's almost no, no, no, no, no No! My Girl Monster Party on time Check some party I really can't because comic books have been around me for as long as I can remember. When I was a young kid, five or six, I remember reading collected editions of Peanuts and Dennis the Menace, these newspaper comics that my grandparents never threw away from when my mother and her brothers and sisters were kids.

They were fun at the time and they kept me entertained and for some reason they always smelled like peanut butter, the collected books, not my grandparents. During the summer, my father would load the family up in the pickup truck with a camper shell, and we would take trips to the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone National Park, Frontier Days, family reunions. To keep my sister and I from killing each other in the back of the truck during these long treks, my mother would buy these three packs of comics at the local town and country, and if I'd done all of my other reading, you know, Huckleberry Finn, little women, the Hobbit, Then I could read Star Wars Comics, Issues 7 and 8 of the original Marvel series, or maybe a Bugs Bunny comic, or Andy Panda.

When my grandparents came back from a trip to Germany, they brought me a German-language copy of Asterix and Cleopatra, and though I didn't understand a word that was written on the inside, the pictures kept me entertained for literally a decade until I found the English translation. When I was the ripe old age of 11, and you know how ripe 11-year-olds can be, I was on another of the famous Schleiker family vacations,

and while stopped at a gas station, I somehow convinced my father to spend an entire dollar on world's finest number 271. Why did I have to have this comic? It was 52 pages, so it was like reading a book, really, and it promised to reveal the secret origin of how Batman and Superman became a crime-fighting team. Little did I know, it would be nothing

but excerpts from every Batman-Superman origin story from the last 30 years cobbled around a weird plot about an android who thought he was a man and was hell-bent on destroying Superman. It did introduce me to the concept of the multiverse, which at the time left my head scratching, but I ended up wanting much more. For those who need the maths done for them, that $1 comic in 1981 would be the same as having a cover price of $3.26 today.

That was also about the time I discovered Mad Magazine. Again, thanks to my grandparents who kept my uncle's collection before he went and joined the Navy. I was occasionally able to get my mother to shell out a whole 90 cents for the Raiders of the Lost Ark issue or Popeye or whatever else Mad was parodying that month. Mad Magazine was fairly easy to access as it could be found at the local Alco or the grocery store. These were lower shelf items, an area of the newsstand that kids could easily access as opposed to a high shelf item where, heavy metal and savage sword of Conan and Vampirilla would reside. If you ever got up on your tiptoes to snag a copy of one of those, Mr. Peek, the owner of Peek's grocery store in my small Kansas hometown,

would yell at you for even thinking of reading black and white magazines that were aimed at adults. My friend Tim had a gold-key trade paperback collection of Star Trek comics. Now, this tome was passed back and forth between us until he went to high school and his sister got a hold of it, and I never saw it again. And that was about the same time that I got into reading pulp books, specifically the adventures of Doc Savage. I picked up a first printing of the Bantam reprints at the Kansas State Fair one year, and the next year, DC Comics released Doc Savage No. 1 by Denny O'Neill and Adam Kubert.

Since Doc Savage was a monthly comic, I knew I had to find out where I could get more of Doc's adventures. In hindsight, that series turned out pretty bad, and it started a decade-long promise of great Doc Savage comics that would ultimately try to bring the character to modern day and fail miserably. And now, in my defense, I didn't know where the series was headed, but it did lead me to finding comic shops in my area. I had a driver's license and an old 1976 Ford F-150,

which was in pretty bad shape after, all the family vacations, but it steered pretty good, and the brakes worked, mostly. In and around 1984, there were four comic shops in Topeka, Kansas. Three in Lawrence, and one I could easily get to at the Metcalf Mall in the suburbs of Kansas City. Not a single one of those comic shops exist anymore, and the Metcalf Mall was bulldozed and turned into a loz about a decade ago. We'll come back to that later. Anyway, I would save up my lawn mowing money and odd job payments, and once a month or so, I would make a big loop between all of those stores with my friend Mike looking to find

more comics. 1987 was a great year for me to really discover comics, as DC Comics had just finished Crisis on Infinite Earths, which at the time totally wiped away all of the events of World's Finest 271, and promised to fix DC continuity once and for all. John Byrne had just relaunched Superman, Robin was about to die at the hands of the Joker. Don't worry, he got better. And Wonder Woman was about to get a defining look thanks to George Perez. Each time I would visit the comic bookshop, I was always finding something new from DC Comics.

Adventures of Superman, Captain Adam, Dr. Fate, Justice League International, The Question, Wally West as the Flash, and so many more comics lined the shelves. In 1987 alone, DC Comics would launch 32 new titles and miniseries, a virtual explosion of comics. But what if I were to tell you there was a time when DC Comics had even bigger plans? When the comics were going to get supersized. That DC planned to launch 52 titles in one year. That $1.52 page world's finest comic wasn't supposed to be the exception to what comics would be,

but rather it was supposed to be the norm. And what if I told you that grand plan came crashing down? That Detective Comics, one of the publisher's top, three books was on the chopping block. That word around the spinner rack was, this was the end of DC Comics. I'm Steven Schleiker, and I want you to come with me on a journey through this tumultuous time and how history repeats itself again and again as we explore the DC implosion. Get more at frogpants.com.

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