The Morning Stream - TMS 2584: Blepharitis!
Episode Date: January 17, 2024Isn't There a Lobster Called Sebastian the Crab? Chairs for dogs that sneak around. Crusty snow stole my glove. Huffing and Puffing. Can Michael Cera grow a beard cuz I like really wanted to know. Lap...top Handstand. Why Don't You Tell Me The Creature You Want To Name? Special Hyena. Irish, we have no cool chicks. Zonk Right Out. Big Fat Stupid Pants. Walmart of Ski Resorts. Sidekick Sandwich. The Sound of Silence with Tom. Who's Eating Who With Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Isn't there a lobster called Sebastian the Crab?
Chairs for dogs that sneak around.
Krusty Snow stole my glove.
Huffing and puffing.
Can Michael Sarah grow a beard because I like really wanted to know?
Laptop handstand.
Why don't you just tell me the creature you want to name?
Special hyena.
got no coral chicks zonk right out big fat stupid pants the walmart of ski resort sidekick sandwich
the sound of silence with tom who's eating who with randy and nicole and more on this episode of the
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The morning stream.
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The one.
Good morning, everybody, and welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Wednesday, January 17th, 2024.
I'm Scott Johnson, and that is Brian Dibbitt.
Hi, Brian Dibbitt.
Hello.
You know what, Fletcher's thing kind of made me want to yawn.
oh man yeah it's like i kind of want to just do the show lying down i've got my uh secret labs chair
i can put it in in uh full recline mode and just zonk right out i need one of those i'm just gonna say it
i like when you're sitting in that every time i go oh you know what i ought to get one of those
you know they're great but please let me know if you do buy one please let me know so i can give you
a code because uh they're big on the referral deals anyway it goes for any of you people
what's the brand again i will say one more time i look them up real secret labs
secret labs okay so these this isn't these aren't dogs that sneak around these are this is a
company no those are uh yeah those are undercover secret labs gotcha gotcha oh here we go secret lab
oh these are such cool chairs they're great chairs and they are like that the previous
gaming chair i had was what caused a lot of my back problems back in 2022 and um
The switch to the secret lab chair was one of the biggest factors in getting my back up and running again, feeling good again.
Nice.
Look at that.
They should be a sponsor with that glowing recommendation, right?
Come on now.
Right.
And I want to look like this guy that I just put in the Discord.
Look at him chilling out.
Oh, see?
Yeah.
It doesn't look like it's good on your legs.
He needs like an ottoman or something to put his legs up on.
Yeah, you're cutting the blood off there, Chief.
Yeah.
I don't necessarily
They have like branded ones
Like a cyberpunk bright yellow black thing
I don't necessarily want that
I didn't necessarily want to get a Batman one
But it was the same price as
The other ones that I was looking at
And so I was like well I guess I'm just even getting a Batman one
They
No Marvel from these guys
Oh what
Then no sale
It's no big deal
A lot of World of Warcraft a lot of
A lot of Blizzard stuff that got Overwatch in here
A lot of Blizzard stuff.
Yeah.
I'd do a Diablo chair, maybe.
I don't know.
Put the prime evil on there, man.
Make some real money.
Anyway, hi, everyone.
Enough about us and our health issues with our backs.
Let's talk about life and does it happen?
Life.
Real quick here.
Bigger than you and you are not.
We are going to get into some more injuries here in a second.
But before we do, just a shout out to Cindy, fellow Tad Pooler, and person who helped
us get our appointments with.
with our eye doctor yesterday.
He's a very in-demand eye doctor,
so she did us a real solid
by getting us in early.
And it all went fine.
He told me I had,
what's the term?
You and I were talking yesterday.
Oh, yes.
It's in, uh,
let me find the word.
It is.
It's blasphous.
Oh,
Blifartis.
Blifartis.
Yeah.
He says I have a little blephartis.
Really all it is is your eyelashes get like,
kind of a dandruff on.
them and
usually it's good sleep
sleep dust sometimes sleep dust yeah he
he told me it's because I
if you wash too much it dries out
I think was the point or maybe
it wasn't enough or whatever it was it's just
like a little thin layer and you can get these
little things in fact Brian had a brandy
recommended where you can get that off of there
but what kind of term is blephardis
blephartis yeah exactly
you don't want to be told you got that that sounds terrible
oh no
yeah flophartis it sounds like
the worst character in the movie Gladiator.
You don't want to get stuck in the chamber with Bluffardis.
Yeah, the chamber of Bluffardis is the scariest place ever.
But he was saying off all these, like, he'd be looking at my eye and go,
you got a little bit blop and the boot blop, like these fake names,
or not fake names, but very medical names that I don't know.
And I'm like, what are you, am I, am my eyes going to explode?
What is all this, all these words?
And at the end, she's like, oh, no, that's just this, that's that.
none of your eyes haven't changed in fact you're only 0.25 off your normal prescription we'll give
you a new one if you want it's barely going to make a difference you're great all well done perfect
pressure in there blah blah blah so we had a otherwise perfect uh you know walked away uh happy eyes
it's a perfect call it was perfect in every way that's right perfect in every way that's right
perfect in every way yeah it's a 2024 frontrunner for the gop ladies and gentlemen
Brian in it.
Anyway, that all went great.
So when I got back, I immediately got this text about more reasons that you and I and
I and everyone else listening shouldn't ski, okay?
Yeah, okay, good.
Our reasons were like basic like, I don't want to spend the money.
Sure.
It takes too long to do it all day or whatever.
It's cold.
You know, all these we need things.
It's cold.
It's not fun.
Yeah, right.
There's lots of, lots of, it's really just expensive and,
and cold and unpleasant
I can't really think of anything worse
than that combination of things
and I lost a right glove
on a ski lift the last time I skied
and never found it
it fell you remember that it was the right glove
oh 100% because I'm right handed
and it bugged me that I was
doing all this right handed stuff
that normally if it was if it was my left
I could have kind of tucked it away
or you know I couldn't I just feel like
I couldn't function with this one frozen
hand but I dropped this glove
the glove. I remember it kind of floating down like a leaf and then it hit and we're like
midway up there. Really light glove. It kind of was. It wasn't quite that light, but it was kind of like a,
I don't know, it kind of had a little curve to it. And then when it hit the snow, it took off. It was that
kind of snow where not frozen, but kind of a crust. Yeah. And it just took off like on its own
ski trip. Oh, like you started sliding down itself. Yeah, it just went, and by the time it
went out of my eyesight. I was like, I'm never seeing that glove again. And sure enough,
I never saw the glove again. You're not going to be able to ski back to that. No, that sucked. There's
no way to get extra gloves while you're on a lift. No, it's not like, uh, well, you got to hope that
somebody, uh, lost their left glove and then just decided, screw it. I'm going to leave my light,
my right glove up at the top with the, uh, the dude who's, uh, managing the ski lift and see
if they can, uh, yeah, and the chances of that seem kind of low. Pretty, pretty low. Yeah, I don't
think that. Plus, I think I wore jeans that year, which, you ski,
in jeans.
Just that one time.
And I think it's because my brother and I were, my brother and I were idiots.
And we didn't think about how, so picture me and my wacko brother, Matt, in jeans on a wet ski slope.
And every run we'd wipe out or whatever and we'd get all wet.
And then you got to wear those jeans for the rest of the day.
What were we thinking?
Oh, it's the absolute worst.
It's the worst thing you can wear skiing.
Yeah, it was dumb.
And this is not the reason I never went back.
I just...
Worse than shorts.
Oh, it's way worse than shorts.
Well, shorts would give you kind of a burn if you lay out, if you wipe out, right?
But at least shorts, you can keep...
You can stay sort of dry, cold but dry.
If you kind of stay rare, right, right, yeah.
But your pants...
The jeans will keep you cold the entire day.
Once they're wet, you're done.
Yeah, and they feel like they weigh 100 pounds.
They're just like big fat, stupid pants.
Anyway, the point is, we got a text.
And this came in from, like, hmm.
This is Zoh, is how you'd say it?
X-O? Or X-O? Would you say Zoh?
Oh, I would say Zoh, yes.
I'm plugging in a couple titles for recommendals.
Yeah, I would say Zoh.
Maybe X-O, like...
Or Cho.
It might be X-O, and then the real name is Steph, but the way they wrote it is weird.
Oh, it is Steph.
Yeah, X-O. She's hugging kiss is what she's doing.
And the Steph is written with three Fs and a lower-case S, which threw me.
But anyway, so Steph from the orthotrauma PT.
Ooh.
So some authority.
here. Yeah, it says, another reason not to ski
per y'all's pre-show convo
on Monday. Ski accidents.
The amount of ski trauma
as I see at the U of U.S. Hospital are
wild this time of year. We track
them each season to see
which Utah resort has the most
accidents. Any guesses? I'm going to guess
I'm going to guess Brighton.
I would think she's asking, she wouldn't
have asked if it wasn't Snowbird, right?
I would assume. Oh, I don't know.
I mean, my guess is, I would
say Brighton. Snowbird gets less overall
people i'm just thinking of the one that gets the most people and i think brighton oh gotcha okay brighton maybe
alta probably brighton though so she'll have to tell us because she didn't follow up so yeah she didn't leave
the answer to follow in a second text didn't didn't do any of that stuff yeah but brighton was always the
place we would go it was the cheapest i don't know if it still is it's not by much but you might spend
a 20 bucks less or something or brighton and uh it just seemed like we were always hearing about somebody
get hurt that's where my glove went and never came back was uh was brighton was in brighton yeah
beautiful at least it was an injured uh at least it was an injured glove but it brighton's got is the
walmart of our ski resorts kind of exactly what you're talking about or el dora is our
oldora then is our brighton yeah everyone's got a brighton of ski resorts it's cheap you can get to
it really quickly uh-huh uh it's not that great but it's
you can it's it's like the closest one to the denver area and it's cheap yeah and then you go from like
that to i would say the coals slash target of ski resorts is like snowbird alta a couple others maybe
and then if you want to go you know fancy store shop and like new york macy's or something
you got to go up to sundance or uh the other one that sounds like horses i forgot the name of it
but yeah
I don't know why
but that's always been a thing
never
that's a callback folks
I heard from a guy yesterday
I heard for this funny
bring that up
I heard from another guy
I didn't bring it on to the show
but a guy who says
that they've got their
their munchin pump
down there in Texas
I guess is a chain
I thought that was like a joke
that somebody came up with that name
in our discord
that said
no it's real
really it's really there's really one called a munch and pump or maybe it's pump and munch but it's
some order like that pump and munch yeah pump and munch gas station is what it is and it's in wow
okay so it's an end like a pump dash n dash sure because that's that's where the problem lies is
yeah that's the real issue right that's the big issue it looks like these are all over the midwest
and some in texas and we don't have one here but be beware because maverick's buying everybody
Sorry, Maverick is buying everybody
And they're heading your way
Anyway, so just be careful out there skiing everybody
And thank you, Steph, for the update
Which she sent via our text line at 801-471-0462
And now an email
From Gabby, we hear from Gabby now and again
Oh yeah
Gabby's a person about town.
She does cool stuff
And she's always willing to let us know
So here's what Gabby says
Some more obscure facts from Gabby
the peripheral production person.
This is a Hollywood experience thing.
When I was young, I did some production in Hollywood,
and I was working as a production assistant
on the movie The Grand Tour, starring Jeff Daniels.
Don't remember this movie at all.
Do you?
I don't either.
Nope.
Yeah, no memory of this.
So I remember being in an office one day,
and the writer David Towie came in,
disappeared with a young lady into another room for a while,
and then reemerged.
It was literally probably 34 years ago,
so I don't remember who else was there with me, but I do remember the kind of giggling,
or sorry, remember kind of giggling with whomever it was when they reappeared.
By the way, I worked in an office in L.A., so I never got to meet Jeff Daniels.
But I think if memory serves, he brought t-shirts for all of the cast and crew and was very sweet.
I also met with David Bowie's wife, Amman, when she came to audition for a part in the movie.
So that's interesting.
The whole point of this is we were talking about how high.
Hollywood's always been a little skeeby with the you know some sneak in a girl in a back room and
everyone just kind of pretends they didn't see it. Cesting call casting couch. Yeah, all that stuff.
So that seems like a pretty good, in support of that. Totally. Maybe things have changed,
I hope, to for the better. You know what? If you listen to Carol Burnett the other night,
she says it has. She claims the whole system's way better than when she was coming up.
I'll bet it was. I mean, it's certainly more inclusive now for sure. It has to be. Yeah, I would think so. Don't forget
that last, by the way, don't forget this last paragraph.
Oh, no, no, I just wanted to make sure to clear all that before I read it.
I saw you clicking your square out of there. I'm like, oh, no, he's not done.
This is just ADD Johnson. Look at this. I can do this.
I know. Oh, I see going all over the place.
I do it all the time. I don't know why I do it. Triggering an epileptic seizure is what
it's doing. I don't know why I do it. It's so annoying. Anyway, one last thing about nice people
in Hollywood when I was a PA in the office of the production, the Lost World, you know, the
second Jurassic Park.
Peter Stormair, Stormara, however you said it, came in at the end of the shoot
and bought us all really cute cake and dinosaurs, with dinosaurs, rather, and thanked us all.
I was always very impressed by that kind of gesture.
Yeah, that guy seems like, you know, he might be a weirdo on screen, but he seems like a nice
guy, you know?
I think that's one of the things, like, if you can play a weirdo on screen, it probably
means in real life you were just the nicest, like, yeah, I know this.
is my niche. I know this is what I, what I, uh, I'm going to be, uh, typecast as for him here
on out, but whatever. I'm a nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. He seems great. You know, not, he's never put a
real person in a wood chipper. He's never done that. No, he never would do that. I think Christopher
walking is, uh, is who he appears to be, though. I think, I think the, uh, the Christopher
walking we see is in his characters is the Christopher walking you get outside. Yeah, which I am
totally okay with, by the way. Yeah. I want him to be.
Christopher Watkins is one of those guys.
Yeah, we want him to be as weird in real life as he is on.
100%.
I was thinking the other day about actors like that,
where I don't feel like they're acting.
They're just sort of being who they are.
And I couldn't, now I can't think of who.
We had a whole list, Carter and I.
We came up with a list and I can't think of anyone else now,
except Christopher Walken.
But I like that kind of actor.
I don't know what it is.
You know what, Michael Serra.
Good example.
That dude just plays the same guy and everything he's in.
And I'm 100% fine with it.
It's totally fine.
I don't need range out of Michael Sarah.
And I don't need massive range out of Christopher Walker.
No, no, no.
But, uh, it was a commercial team I saw the other day.
Uh, what was it for?
And it looked like Michael Sarah nibbling on a tortilla chip.
This was during the, uh, the Packers, uh, Cowboys game.
Or really, it's just the Packers game.
Cowboys didn't show up.
Yeah.
But, um, uh, that looked like, uh, it looked like Michael Sarah, but he's got a beard now.
And so we weren't a hundred percent sure he was him.
Oh, weird.
Uh,
I want to see him with a beard.
That's weird.
Let's see.
Yeah, it's,
can he grow a beard?
Is it for Doritos?
I'm wondering.
Yeah, Uber Eats.
That's right.
It was an Uber Eats.
Okay, that really is Michael Serra.
Really?
I'm going to give you a link.
Give it to me.
Let's see it.
And now that you know it's Michael Sarah,
you might not have the same issue that we had,
but we were not 100% sure.
Okay, here's the link.
All right.
Let me check this out.
Going in Discord.
I'm hit and play here.
Let's see what we get.
Let's get a little sound.
Why does he add man the grill?
I don't man things.
Just find the knob that makes the hot fire come out.
We also didn't have audio.
We were watching the game when we were chatting with Crazy Ambers and so we had no audio.
Yeah, if you had no audio, it probably, I could see that.
He looks weird.
He looks different.
It does look weird, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know he could grow facial hair.
That's awesome.
Good for him.
Yeah.
He seems like a kid.
It just seemed like, you know, one of those kid faces that can't ever push the hair out.
It's a little patchy in places, but, uh, yeah.
Uh, yep.
Nice title, TRBW.
Uh, well, anyway, we are, uh, we're grateful for all your feedback, everybody.
Keep that stuff coming.
We love it.
Never stop.
I didn't put this in the top of show notes, but I got to tell you a quick story with Tina here.
Go.
So, um, because we, because we share a house and because she would like to get the benefit
of an Amazon Prime membership as well.
We use the same account for ordering stuff on Amazon.
Makes sense, right?
She just uses her card.
And she, I see, I get the notifications when she buys something.
She's very good about not doing birthday presents or Christmas presents for me in the same way,
so I don't see what she's getting.
But I know she bought like a little laptops down.
One of these things, like if you use your laptop with an external monitor, an external keyboard,
It raises your laptop up so you can flip up the screen, have it as a second monitor with your big monitor,
but not have to use the keyboard to type on.
A lot of people do this.
Sure, of course.
And it raises it up.
And I see that she's buying one.
And I had given her one three years ago, several years ago.
And I'm like, oh, hold on a sec, because I have another spare.
Don't buy one.
So I tell her to cancel order.
She's like, well, let me show you what my other one's doing, because it's really weird.
Because basically, she says, I put my laptop on there, and then over the course of the day, just as she's using it and typing on her external keyboard, this thing will slide down the little rubber feet that just come down.
Basically, her laptop will just start sliding down the keyboard stand.
Gotcha, gotcha.
And I'm like, really, let me see that.
So she takes her laptop off of it.
She hands it to me.
And then I take it and I flip it over because she has been using it with the feet that go on the bottom, the rubber feet that go on the bottom with the desk.
And the top part where the laptop goes has a little like two little prongs that go up that keep your laptop from sliding down that she thought were just really, I guess, weird feet on the bottom of the laptop stand.
Amazing. That's amazing.
We laughed for a good 10, 15 minutes on that.
She canceled the order then?
Yeah, she canceled the order.
Okay.
That's funny.
This thing ain't working.
Turn it upside down.
Oh!
It was great.
You know, you see these things and you're like, it's just this weird, goofy shape.
And you see the rubber feeds like, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
No, no, I get it.
And also, you know, not everything works right.
So you may be just thrown off like, hey, this didn't work.
I'm going to get another one.
I understand that.
In fact, I've probably replaced something I didn't need to in my lifetime.
So, Tina, we commiserate.
We understand.
It's totally fine.
Just turn the rubberer
or the other way, and you're good.
Yeah, and dubious rascal in our like,
you can share your prime shipping with people in your household.
I said, that it's kind of what we're doing.
It doesn't come to Brian Ibbett.
It comes to her own name, her own address,
but on some things, I get a notification of what she buys.
So for whatever reason,
sometimes it comes up.
I get an email about what she's bought,
and good things she,
good thing I saw this one.
I was able to avert a problem with a second one of these stands if she ended up doing the same thing.
Yeah, it's basically what Carter does with our account.
She just uses her card and switches to that when she buys something.
And I get notified, you know, that something's coming.
And I'm like, why are you buying another book?
She likes books.
And I understand people liking books.
Nothing wrong with that.
But I keep telling her, I said, when you move out, which won't be that long from now,
because her and her friends got plans, what are you going to do with all these books?
Are you going to move them?
You're going to leave them here for me to deal with?
And I'm like, go digital.
But I know, you know, people like books and I get it.
I totally get it, you know?
Yeah.
I get the same crap from you.
And, you know, if I pick up all the Blu-Rays for the Marvel movies,
although I guess the last one I bought was maybe the third Spider-Man,
maybe No Way Home, I think was the last actual physical Blu-ray I got.
Yeah.
I just picked up, uh, um,
marvels.
And I do it for certain things.
I want all the bonus stuff.
It's like I want all the bonus.
I do it for stuff.
I'm holding off on Dune because I want the however many parts combo they're going to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I bought Blade Runner 2049 on.
I have that in every possible format.
And then like eight versions of Fury Road at this house.
Right.
The Shadine Chrome Edition.
Yeah.
The 4K one, the 1080P one.
There are some things that I'm always going to want.
a physical copy of.
Yeah, yeah.
Chat says, what about the Dark Tower series?
Rainbow Bright says she still has her physical copies.
I used to have those.
I don't know what happened to them.
But I would.
See, that's one I would want to keep on a shelf.
So I get this thing, right?
And to her credit, most of the books she wants or that she buys that are physical
are kind of larger format, not coffee table books, but they're like art books for
her favorite games or her favorite Miyazaki film.
or something. It'll be like a whole book of art and sketches and all that. And so it's all
cool stuff. Yeah. And if I buy a hard bound, that's what I do. It's like I bought that Ridley Scott
retrospective. Yeah. Exactly. So I, you know, I totally get it. It's just that when you're
ready to move, books give me gas. I just go, oh. No, because they are so freaking heavy. Like,
you cannot have a moving box full of books. It has to be, well, all right, let's put books in the
bottom and then we've got to put blankets in the top
because otherwise it's going to be too heavy for anybody
to live. Yeah, it's redonculus and I don't want to
carry it and so there's that.
All right, we are going to do, what are we going to do? We're going to do
a game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
We're going to play a game. It's going to be fun.
Everybody there in the chat room, if you want to be a part
of this today, this is the Tad Pooley Feud edition
of the contest. If you want to win some games
and play with us, you've got to ping me
on Discord directly, FrogPants on Discord,
which you can do either via the
well, just do it on Discord.
That's how you do it.
There's no other way.
Maybe, yeah.
So send me that.
We need you.
We need contestants.
Yes, try to be someone new and someone who hasn't muted me.
Try to be someone new.
Whatever you are, just try to be somebody new.
Yeah, if you can help it, that'd be awesome.
We get a little STP going on here.
But in the meantime, this.
Well, that music signifies only one thing,
and that is the entrance of a one
and the only
Brian Dunnaway.
Hi Brian.
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
Oh, hello, Mr. Donaway.
Hey, man.
How are you guys doing this
a Wednesday?
Well, you know.
What?
Why did you fools
send that cold weather
my way?
It's too cold.
Oh, is I done with it?
Yeah, we were done with it.
We decided,
oh, we don't need this anymore.
Let's send it east.
I don't need your sloppy, freezy seconds.
Are you getting, um,
uh,
like,
Like, what's happening?
Rain?
I mean, you're not getting snow or anything.
No, no, no.
But it is actually, it is actually freezing weather now.
It's below the 30 degrees Fahrenheit, which is unusual for us.
I went outside and it said, oh, it's actually cold.
Yeah.
And you can get some low freezing.
You can get some gnarly, like, ice storms and stuff in the South when that happens.
Oh, it is the worst.
Yeah.
With all the humidity, the trees are like, we ain't seen this in years.
Yeah.
And then it's like, it's time to fall over and take down some power line.
Yep.
And then it's great.
Break some car windshields and, yeah, it sucks.
And shut the entire town down, basically, for a few days.
We're shutting it down.
Well, it's good to send it back.
We don't want it back.
So just send it.
I've already been outside shaking my hands at it and tell them to go back home where it belongs.
Go back to Colorado.
Good man.
We're joined by a guest also today.
I would like to walk into the show, I think, for the first time.
Nat, hello, Nat.
Hello, hello.
How are you?
Where are you?
You've got an accent that tells me not here.
Where are you?
I'm in England.
I'm Cambridge.
Oh, nice.
That's fancy.
That's dirtbox in the chat, which I don't really like saying out loud with one in my office.
You're not too far from the Ibit sundial.
There is an Ibit sundial just outside of Cambridge.
Oh, do you know whereabouts?
Because it's really easy to get around.
Um, I, I, I know that if you Google it, you can find it.
Um, did you just tell him to read the effing manual?
Nice.
I don't have the, I don't have the physical address, unfortunately, but I do, uh, let's see.
Oh, here we go.
Village Center, 1251.
Does that sound, uh, what?
Is that looking?
I don't know.
It's on the, uh, the sundial.
So there's a sundial trail there in Cambridge.
And, um, one of them is.
is the Ibit sundial.
That's pretty cool.
I don't have any Johnson sundials anywhere.
That's awesome.
I'll show the ignorance I have.
Sure, sure.
There we go.
Well, actually, I've been there, but send me a photo what looks like now because it's
been 25 years since we've been there.
He also gave you, I've already been there, thanks anyway.
I'd like to see how it might have changed in 25 years because when we went there,
there was a lady peering through her blinds at us from the house that sits right behind
the ibitt sundial looky-lose yeah what are they doing there uh well it's people taking pictures
of a sundial get off my line yeah that's good to know you guys have crappy neighbors over there as well
it's nice to yeah we're gonna get right into it hey done away uh it's your chance to sweep me again
i don't know i think you won last time didn't oh no i didn't sweep you i barely won in a coin toss
oh that's right all right yeah well if it explained down to the like
two points or something like that.
Explain these rules then and what
Nat over there might win because I'm
excited for both of the, I have
both these games and they're both fantastic. Very
excited. Oh, cool. All right. Well, here's
what we're going to do. It's time to play the tadpoole
feud. I've surveyed the tadpool
on some nerdy topics and Scott and Brian are going to have to
predict the answers that they give us. It's their
job to see how many of those answers
they can guess. Now, Nat, your job
is more important than every because you
are going to be working with either Scott
or Brian. If your team wins, you'll
get a prize package that includes patch quest and four tails. F-O-R-E-T-A-R-E-S.
Yeah, PatchTales or PatchQuest in particular is when I sunk last year anyway, a ton of time into that game is great.
Do they have to keep sending up these two?
Yeah, they keep giving you patches all the time. No, in fact, it's an incredible Steam deck game,
which is why it became so addicting for me.
Oh, nice. Just maybe one of the best kind of rogue-like twists that
I'd play it all year. It was very good.
Yeah. Awesome game.
Very cool.
All right. Well, those, you don't get them yet, Nat.
No, no, you got to work for them.
These guys, these two guys have to work for them.
These two chuckleheads.
These two's, these two guys.
All right.
We asked 459 tadpullers to give their best answer to this.
Put your hands on your buzzards and name a Disney character sidekick, Scott.
Sidekicks would be the bird from.
Um, uh, the, the lion king and his name is Yazoo or Zazoo.
I love it when Scott doesn't have an actual answer.
Um, um, I need a moment to think now that I've heard the entire question.
Um, the ball just say the bird from Aladdin. How about that?
Yeah, Zazu is the name you're looking for.
I'm not Aladdin. Or Lion King.
Lion King.
Lion King. Sorry. You said Lion King. I did. I did. I used. Yeah, screwed that up.
Jesus.
Uh, Zazu not on, uh, did not make the top 10.
Mr. Dunaway, do you have a guess?
I just got to hit something at the top, whatever, right?
Any of these, yeah.
Sidekick.
Donald Duck.
Donald Duck.
Show me, Donald Duck.
Are you kidding me?
Matt, we'll give you a chance, and then you get to choose who you get to play with.
And after this showing, you might want to play solo and let these two guys play with each other.
Name a Disney character sidekick.
Well, I was thinking of birds from Aladdin, because I know his name,
but my heart says cronk
from Emprosny Groove
because that was my favorite
Disney film.
If you get a third strike,
I'm going to be so happy.
Crunk is on the list.
Tell me who you want
to get the points
and who you want to play with.
It's on the list.
That's hilarious.
It's on the board.
It's on the board.
Crunk is on the board.
Crunk is on the board.
Okay.
Well, Scott's got grandkids
so probably him.
What a weird
dig at me
that makes me hurt a little bit.
Okay.
It's all right.
You got one coming.
Scott gets nine points for Kronk.
Good job, Nat.
And you get Scott as an anchor,
I mean, as a co-player.
Is it a Koeuvre?
Yeah.
Pull you under.
All right.
This is good, then.
And I also agree with you that Kronk is an amazing sidekick.
I should have thought of that.
All right.
So I'm trying to think.
So what I'm feeling from this is this is going to be,
unlike Dunaway's assumption
this is going to be movies
like movie sidekicks mostly
I'm not going to confirm or deny that
I'm going to say basically like
Mickey is the only
not a sidekick
right he's not a sidekick
did anybody put Mickey
Mickey like did anybody put that
you take it on the list yeah
Mickey you're so fine baby
Nat any jumping to your head
right now
did she back here
does that count
I mean legally
it does
It does now.
It does now, but I'm not sure that would be on there.
How about the, Brian, how loose can we be if we don't know names?
Do we have to know names?
You can just tell me the type of creature it is and the movie events.
What the movie is?
Okay.
Timon and Pumba.
What about those guys?
Is that held?
Yeah.
I think they, and they're almost kind of one because they are never not together.
They don't work about the other, do they?
All right.
You know what?
Yeah.
Timon and or Pumba.
from the lion king
all right
show me
who did the voice
for Pumba again
show me Pumba
oh number one
people did separately
stay Timon and Pumba
but I would agree
that the two of them
are the two of them
are a sidekick
but then Pumba is kind of a double
sidekick because he's Timon's sidekick
if that makes sense
Yeah they shadow each other
and somehow make a sidekick sandwich
Let's see
I don't think we can count
I don't think we try any Marvel
or I think they probably didn't do that
Okay
Let me think
The rug from Aladdin
He's more of a psychic than the bird
Oh the rug
Oh I love the rug
It sounds like something
Or the genie I don't know
Well
I watched like 30 minutes of
Behind the scene footage
Of how they did the rug for Aladdin
My life is sad
No
Your life is great
That was actually really cool tech at the time
Yeah it was
um i'm gonna go ahead and say that close your eyes we we ought to we ought to stay with lladen for a second
because i think you're right but we have really a couple of choices we have the rug we have the monkey
and we have the monkey and we have appoo stop calling him the monkey so you should have picked me
this guy's an idiot well since you're here and told us now it's appu uh the monkey is what we'll go
with that's our answer yeah okay apu ram the uh it's abu i said abu you said abu the first time
done away. We can go to the tape.
Once he said it out, once he
said it back to me, I was like, that's not right.
Direct from the quick, the quickie mark, show me
a boo. I can't remember who said this. This is you, Scott.
Yeah, okay. Show me aboo.
Yeah, okay. All right.
Number three, number three on the list.
Who was,
oh gosh.
Jungle Book.
Who?
The bears?
The bear's from Jungle Book, Blue.
Oh, oh, oh.
Ballou is a good one.
You know what?
Yeah.
There might be...
Bear necessity.
The Bear necessities.
Beard necessities.
Whoever that actor was at the time, he's like the John Goodman of the 50s.
I love that guy's voice.
He was.
Let's do that then.
Let's say that bear.
All right.
Show me Blue.
Number 18 on the list.
That was a good guess.
It's a very good guess, yes.
It's a good guess.
All right, Donaway.
Personally, I am a big, Eddie Murphy, Milan.
Oh, that's a good one.
Mushu fan.
Mushu's pretty good.
Oh, cool.
I love his character.
Let's get down to business.
I mean, it was going to be that or donkey, but then
I remembered
that's not Disney
That's not Disney
Right yeah
That's a good
That's a good qualification
Yeah
All right
Show me
Mushu
Oh wow
Number two shoe
Well done
Yeah
Yeah your points are killer
Two to 13
Right
Oh my God
Now I'm forgetting
We talk so much shit
Now I'm forgetting
If we actually said
If we actually said
If we actually said the genie
for Aladdin who's my favorite
I'm going to say
the genie for Aladdin even though you may have already
said it I'm going with the genie
A thousand years will give you such a
crick in the neck. All right, show me
show me Jeannie
Oh, not considered a
sidekick, eh? Weird. 14
14 was Jeannie so it was up there but did not
make the top 10. I'm glad we didn't
do that one. How do you feel about
I was thinking about Blue and that voice
actor. He's the same guy that did the Little John
Bear character from
Robin Hood. I love that movie, but I
also know that that one's not like... Yeah, it's very...
Well, let's see, 70-something. But it was also
during the time where everybody thought Disney was falling apart. And I don't
know how many people feel that way about that movie that I do, so I don't know
if it's a strong one or not. I didn't like it when I was a kid, and I was born in
only two. A lot of kids didn't. I didn't tell you much about the film.
My kids didn't like it then, but they love it now. I think it's like a weird
acquired taste that movie.
And they used the same animation from like
Jungle Book.
Oh yeah.
Big time.
That whole,
that whole era,
they just kept rubber stamping that stuff.
It was so weird.
Yeah.
What was the like the somebody put the side by side,
Snow White and Cinderella thing that's like,
oh,
that's exactly the same.
They just changed a little bit of the tweening or whatever it was.
Well,
it was usually there.
It was usually the rotoscope stuff.
They would just reuse and reuse and reuse.
Right.
Use the video and then just do the different.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
right um i uh boy then if we're not going there did um sebastian
from oh oh oh oh jack that's where i was going right the lobster deal yeah the lobster
for yes Sebastian right yeah that's right yeah why is that when I'm having a hard time hearing that word right that sounds wrong
he's under the sea he's not a lobster oh he's not what is he too what is he's not a lobster what is he
He's making crap.
Oh, he's a crab.
I thought he was a lobster.
I'm not kidding you.
You could have held a gun to my head and said,
hey, what was the sea creature that talked to the little mermaid all the time
and sang under the sea?
I would have said lobster and then gotten a bullet straight to my brain.
And you wanted to be my latex salesman.
I know, right?
Exactly.
All right.
All right.
Sebastian?
Okay.
Show me under the sea.
Oh, that's no good.
So close.
That was number 13.
Very, very close.
That was where I was going to, because I was going to go, okay, when did it really, when did Disney surge again?
It was Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and then Beauty and the Beast, Lion King.
We already did Lion King.
So I'm going to go with the Beauty and the Beast.
I've been watching a lot of murder she wrote.
Oh, my gosh.
I see where you're going with this.
Yeah, all right.
I'm putting all those together and going.
with Mrs. Potts.
Are you really watching a lot of that right now?
Oh, yes.
Oh, my God.
It's on, is it Peacock, I think?
Yes, Peacock.
And I've been, I've been watching all of it.
It's not on Disney Plus, I would assume.
No, no.
I started, I started watching it because we did the Spy Hunter episode, and they had an episode
with Spy Hunter in it.
And so I started watching it, and I haven't stopped.
Why would Murder She wrote on Disney?
Oh, Brian thought you meant.
I was thinking he was watching Beauty and the Beast.
Sheriff Lobo was on Beauty and the Beast.
A Beauty of the Beast.
Oh my God, now I'm getting to be able to be.
It was on murder she wrote.
Anyway, my answer is Mrs. Potts.
Okay.
All right.
Show me Mrs. Potts.
Would you have given me Chip if I'd have been Chip?
I would, instead of Mrs. Potts, would I have given you chip if you said Mrs. Potts and not chip?
Yeah, what if that's a chip?
Would that have been the strike two?
No, I would not have given you Mrs. I would not have given you chip for Mrs. Potts.
I mean, they're from the same piece of...
Sure.
Sure.
Mrs. Potts, not even on the list.
Nobody...
I'm scrolling through right now, nobody said Mrs. Potts.
You horrible people.
You're more likely to get the candle or the clock, I think.
I don't know why.
That's true.
You're not wrong.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm going to...
Can we do Olaf from the Frozen thing?
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah, that was going to...
That's a smart one.
You've seen it?
Yeah.
I've seen both of them multiple times, and he's the only thing that makes me laugh, so...
Do you want to build a snowman?
All right.
Show me, Olaf.
Yeah, number six.
Very good.
All right.
Now, this is the Tadpool, which means they could have done one of these Star Wars things to be jokey funny.
Yeah, I think I might have done that as well.
Yeah, exactly.
You may have voted that way yourself.
So if we did that, I mean, I feel like Chubakas a shoe-in.
You said it earlier, and then we backed off of it.
Yeah. I mean, it feels like dead on to me for a tadpool answer, but I don't want to do it without your approval.
Yeah, go for it.
All right.
We're doing it.
Sure.
All right.
Consent given.
Chubacca, show me Chewbacca.
Oh, you guys.
Like, 33 on the list.
33.
So people did say it, but only couple people from women.
Yeah, I think I said it.
Yep.
Damn it.
All right, done away.
Ryan, I mean, you know, you're at a.
17 point deficit.
You could still win this if, you know, if you get a couple of these, but you need to work hard for this one.
Yeah.
You know, the problem is, the problem is all I can think of is toy story and like everybody's a sidekick.
Like even Buzz Lightyear is a sidekick.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
What is your main?
But everybody else is a sidekick in some way.
So you know what?
I'm going to go, we're going to shift gears literally.
Okay.
And I'm going to zoom right over to call.
I'm going to go with everybody's
favorite redneck
jokester
Mader
Certainly at the top of my list
Yeah
Yeah big fan of Mader
All right
Let's get her done
Show me Mader
No
We indeed got her done
Mader
Mader also
I don't see Mader to the list
Are you serious?
Oh no I'm sorry
One person said Mader from cars
There we go
I think there's
There's backslash
against that's
stuff they don't first of all people think they hate cars they're wrong first cars is good uh their second
and i'm definitely right that i like i like that movie but mater my problem with mater is that guy you know
that dude the cable larry the cable guy is not really that guy he's a totally different dude and
i hate would you want him to be that guy i mean i it's inauthentic to pretend you're a guy that
you're not all the time you get mad at do you think jim varney do you think jim varney was really that guy
No, but you knew Jim Varney was playing a character because he never claimed otherwise,
but there was a period of time where Larry the Cable Guy would, A, claim to be that full character all the time.
I know what you're saying.
I do agree with you.
Yeah, I hate it.
That drives me crazy.
If he was legitimately that dude, I'd have no problem with it.
No problem at all.
It'd be great.
Oh, my gosh, something just, I think one of, one of Nat's bookcases just fell over or something.
No, I mean, yeah, someone has to drop some file in and I am muted too quickly.
I almost went with something stupid like goofy
But I almost went with something stupid like goofy
But after y'all laughed at my own
Goofy number five
Oh Goofy's on there dude
Yeah
Any other
Any other dumb ones you want to throw out
Because you think that they're not on the list
Oh no
I don't want to be any more mad than I already am
Let's go with number four
Pluto
Oh
It's not even a planet
Yeah
You got demoted from planet to microplanet.
No, not even a dog.
Show me number seven.
The chicken from Molana, the rooster.
I still haven't seen Milana.
Oh, you should.
You should see it.
Yeah, Moana is.
And then when you tell me how good it is, I'll say, you're welcome.
Yeah.
Oh, and you'll understand that reference when you get there.
It'll be good.
That's right.
Okay.
I love that.
Pinocchio's Sidekick.
Oh, the Cricket.
Oh, Jiminy Cricket.
That was my next guest, but I forgot we're on three shorts.
And number 10, I'm not sure how I feel about this one, but let's go with number 10.
Stitch.
So are we saying Lilo's the main character and Stitch is the sidekick?
Because I'm not 100 sure on that.
It is Lilo and Stitch.
She gets top billing.
Top billing, top billing.
You know, I thought, I was thinking about this one earlier, but I didn't, I didn't, I
I didn't throw it out because it just seemed, that seemed, well, for the same reason,
you're hesitating is it doesn't sound right.
Yeah, it doesn't sound right.
You know, you don't, you can go, if you search hard, maybe at Disneyland, you can find
someone dressed as Lilo, but you're not going to have a hard time finding someone dressed
as Stitch.
Yeah.
And Claire makes a good point, which is a rarity in this chat room.
She says, she says he finds her not vice versa.
Yeah, he's kind of the impetus of everything.
So if you had to pick one, right?
As a sidekick, Lilo would probably fit in their best of them.
Well, does he find her?
Because she goes and adopts him from the animal shelter thinking, you know,
they think he's just the weirdest dog they've ever seen.
So they kind of find each other.
Oh, that's true.
I watched it last week while I was in feeling well.
I was like, you know what?
I got to watch Leland Station.
Did you watch the one with the, uh, with her getting in the dryer or just the pretend dryer?
Oh, yeah.
The pretend dryer.
The pretend dryer is the fake one with the pizza box on top of it.
The pizza box. Yeah, exactly.
I love that.
crap right there yeah well look it's not adding guns to
changing guns to walkie-tokies is what it is sort of
I mean they don't want little kids see a thing and they call in the stuff because
they don't know I could see this one the guns to talkies stupid stupidest thing they
ever did even Spielberg admits it was terrible oh oh guess what I bought yesterday
what oh oh I bought a ETVHS copy this supposed to have the flashlights in it
it's already had the good one
Already had the good one.
The flashlights.
Oh, really?
A crap one, yeah.
Why would you buy?
It's like saying, oh, I'm going to buy the special edition where they replaced the old
Antiquan with young Anakin.
Well, of course.
I mean, well, because now they're so distant.
Just because at some point in time, we're going to look back and go, oh, what did that
look like?
And it's like, well, it'll like this.
Yeah.
Come over to my house and watch the VHS tape of McClunky on the game of Tienabars.
I can't believe nobody picked.
Hugo
from a hunchback
Well let's get to the rest of these
All right
So number 11
Iago
Jafar's parrot
Iago
Flounder
Right in front of Sebastian
Flounder
I was it flounder
Was it Sebastian?
Yeah
Neither of them made
You're right exactly
Launchpad from
Darkwing Duck
Pascal from Tangle
The lizard
I believe
A little gecko
Yeah
No, chameleon, because it changes colors, right, right, yeah.
Thumper, Ballou.
Oh, wow.
Tangled, highly unrated, or underrated.
I know, I actually need to see that, yeah.
It's very fun.
Grogu, the highest, oh, go ahead.
Oh, I like Tangle Unrated, that was good.
Tangled Unrated.
You're in a very different part of the internet.
Red band cut.
Grogu, the highest, the highest scoring Star Wars character on this.
list.
No jar jar?
There's a film coming.
There's a film coming.
Timon,
Chip or Dale,
people put,
some people just put
Chip or Dale.
Which one's the sidekick?
I don't know.
Is it just because Dale is second billing
that he's the sidekick?
Lefoo,
from Beauty and the Beast.
Oh, yes.
Gaston's sidekick.
Bay Max,
Piglet,
Donald Duck,
Little John from Robin Hood.
You mentioned that one.
one, Scott. Sven from Frozen, the deer, R2D2, Donkey, Dory, Maui, Run, Stoppable, Smi, Zazu.
Someone said donkey. Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Somebody didn't say donkey. Yeah. Some people said Lilo. There we go. There's Lilo.
Lumiere. Mike Wazzowski. Would you say Sully or Mike Wazowski is the sidekick?
Or neither. You know, it's tough.
They're, I don't think either one is a sidekick. I think. I don't think either one is a sidekick.
I think those two are inseparable.
They're the pair.
They're your buddy-coff.
It's like another one is the, yeah.
Yeah, you don't, you don't take, um, uh, I think slink is the best one.
Slinky is by Farmer.
What's, what's the, what's the, um, what's the Kurt Russell?
What's the Kurt Russell-Sleone movie?
What's that one called?
Uh, yes, it's the one with the dude where they break out of jail.
Um, oh, guys, you broke my huge vehicle.
That's the one.
Tango and Cash.
You can't say either one of them as a sidekick.
They're, they're together.
What a great poll, by the wall.
Well, I needed to come up with like a buddy cop thing, and I couldn't think of one.
So that's where I ended up.
Billy Rosewood is a sidekick.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's perfect.
Rosewood and the other guy, total sidekicks.
Right.
Taggard?
Taggard?
Taggard?
Taggard?
Tagger.
That's what it feels like taggard and Rosewood.
Well, we're about to find out because we're getting a new movie.
That's right.
Just a couple more here.
Chopper, Dewey, Doobie, Doctor Strange's cape.
I think that might be, no, there's two from, there's two from Marvel in here.
What cracks me up.
Winter Soldier being the other person who's something considers.
I guess Bucky, Bucky is like literally a sidekick.
Literally.
Yeah, I love that.
That's awesome.
Let's see.
Frozone, grunk, grout.
Gus from Cinder, or Gus, Gus, from Cinderella.
Oh, yeah, Gus, Gus is great.
Guss, Guss, Mollificence Raven.
Mm-hmm.
somebody actually did say Mickey Mouse
Did that?
Somebody actually did say that
Did the little firefly from the frog and the princess thing?
Did that get in there?
Oh yeah, that was a good one.
What was the name of it?
Oh, Raimond.
That's it, I think.
That sounds right.
Ramond is on the list.
Somebody wrote,
The Special Hyena from Lion King.
Oh, I know what that is.
That's the non-cheech.
One that doesn't talk.
Yeah, it's the one that isn't Cheech and isn't
Whoopiego.
It's the other one.
Right, exactly.
That was the special one.
Yeah.
Oh, Slinky.
Yeah, somebody did say Slinky.
Slinky, must be Sleaky Dog from, yeah, from Toy Story.
That's great.
My favorite.
There's a good list right there.
We'll stop there.
I like it.
Well done.
This is amazing stuff because you won.
Congratulations.
You're a winner.
You now have access to these region-free games.
Brian, you'll send those over to him, ASAP.
I'm sending them to him right now.
Boom.
Bebumb-boom.
There he goes.
Nat, thanks for taking time out of your busy British work schedule over there.
So I go out now.
I basically killed the last half an hour of my day.
I was going to say, yeah, you're off now, right?
Oh, yeah, you're done.
We helped you get out of there is what we did.
Well, have a fantastic time and eat lots of pudding and crumpets or whatever the hell you guys do over there.
Putting and crumpets.
Done away.
You and I are doing a show called Play Retro this weekend,
and we're going to talk about this weird thing that was Sonic 3 and Sonic
and knuckles. And it turns out my
history and memory of that is all wrong.
And because of you... Mine.
Mine too.
Because, yeah, because if you bought Sonic
and Knuckles, it was like half a cart
almost looked like. And you could
plug in Sonic 3 or
Sonic 2. If you plugged in Sonic 3,
you'd get the complete story
of Sonic 3 because
it was released as two parts. They just
didn't tell us that. It's weird. One was released in
early. It is weird. At least early
in the year and another one released late in the year.
It's a weird thing to do as a follow-up to your highest-selling Sonic Game of all time, which was two.
And considered the best still of the series, in Leath the Cartridge Series.
And the fact that you did this weird thing with three is mind-boggling to me.
So we're going to talk about it.
I'm going to break it all down.
And there's also a big controversy.
It's hard to actually get the copy with all the good music in it because there's rumors that Michael Jackson had a hand in working on the music on that one.
And as a matter of fact, so much so there's a lawsuit involved.
So a lot of story behind Sonic 3 and Sonic.
All right.
Watch for that.
That's coming up this weekend Friday, in fact, at 1.30 Mountain Time.
And we'll do an episode of Play Retro.
We'd love to have you there.
Get the podcast if you don't.
Don't away kiss our butts.
We'll see you next time.
Let's take a break.
Let's play some music.
Brian, what music did you prepare for our break?
Yeah.
This guy is the founder of the Berlin Academy of Electronic Music.
So I'm guessing he's pretty good.
He's pretty good, pretty good.
Not only a DJ who's played a esteemed institutions,
such as Bergen and Fabric in Germany,
a producer who's released on mute and NovaMute,
but he's also somebody involved in music technology.
He designed controllers for Richie Houghton's Plastic Man's Live Tour
and co-founded line,
the company behind the landmark music app, Leamer.
He's Berlin-based, but Canadian.
His name is Nicholas Bougaeff, and I'm sure I'm not pronouncing that last name, right.
It's B-O-U-G-A-E-E-F, and hey, that's getting to use all the vowels in your last name.
Good job, man.
B-O-U-G-A-I-E-F-F.
This is his brand-new single in collaboration with his techno series on NovaMute, EP-1.
here is Primal Express.
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Thank you.
You know,
Hairdressing today is another art, appreciated by men as well as by the fair sex.
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone.
You guys just don't understand, do you?
And we've returned. Tell me about that band again or that guy.
Sure, that artist does. A guy named Nicholas Bujayev, and I'm, again, I've looked through both PR things that they sent me.
Neither one has, here's a little pronunciation guide on how to pronounce his last name.
Come on, mute records, you're better than that with your old Depeche mode and Book of Love stuff that used to be on your label.
Nicholas Bougethef, he's got a brand new EP called EP1.
It's out courtesy of Nova Mute.
That is the first single Primal Express.
Nice.
That's where my favorite burger is over there with the Primal Express.
Oh, the Primal Express.
Yeah, exactly.
Such good stuff there.
Yeah. Time for a little bit of this here.
We want Tom.
Yeah, we do.
And we'll get him.
Tom Merritt, who we were afraid we weren't going to get him because he got a busy appointment.
He made it back.
We're thrilled to have you back, Tom Merrill.
Welcome back to the show.
How are you?
Oh, we can't hear you.
I think he's making it up.
Oh, I don't know he is.
I thought he was teasing us.
I thought maybe he was faking it just to get his throw us, but no, he's, he is immuted.
Now he's, yeah, now he's, yeah, sorry about that.
No worries.
I hope everything went well at the vet.
Not that you were at the vet, but your dog was.
Yeah, Sawyer took me to the vet, and yeah, he's got a little heart issue, the 15-year-old.
Did your distemper?
Yes, I was in a bit of distemper.
having to get up better. Goodness gracious. Yeah, that's a, I hope he's okay. I hope he's okay. You know,
I don't want dogs suffering. He's just got a guy and he's had a heart condition half his life.
So, you know, part of the deal. Sounds like nothing new anyway. But I'm glad to, glad to hear things
are at least okay today. But it's good to have you here and we're glad to have you back. Tom Merrick comes
on the show on Wednesdays talks about the daily goings on in technology, all in preparation for the
daily tech news show. Tom, what is going on now that you're home from CES? You look great. You
It looked like he didn't catch COVID or anything.
It's all thumbs up.
I did get a cold that, like, hit me on Monday.
But, thankfully, it was on the Junior Day.
So I just, you're off anyway, yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Well, well, well, well done, tis the season, I guess.
But what is, do you think slow down crazily after events like this?
Or do you feel like it's a little bit?
A little bit.
Yeah, you have the big avalanche and then there's a trough.
But Samsung decided to keep things interesting by,
doing their galaxy unpacked early this year. In past years, they've done it closer to Mobile
World Congress, but, you know, COVID threw everything up in the air that we didn't even
have Mobile World Congress one year. So they've been making it early and earlier and earlier.
And so they're doing it closer to CES this year. By the time a lot of people listen to TMS on
demand, Samsung will have already announced everything. But as we're recording this, it's happening
in an hour.
They'll be announcing the new Galaxy S models,
and they've teased a lot of AI stuff,
so they'll probably be touting a lot of on-device,
smart features and stuff like that.
Meanwhile, what has happened is
the United States Supreme Court declined
to hear Epic and Apple's appeals of their lawsuit.
That's the one where Apple won most of the points,
but Epic won one point, which is that Apple must be allowed to let developers link out to their own payment system.
They can't stop people from saying, hey, we've got a way to, you could save some money, pay over here instead.
So today, after the U.S. Supreme Court officially declined to hear the appeal, which lets the lower court's decision stand, Apple released its guidelines for how you can link to an external payment source.
from your app.
Would you like to hear these guides on it?
Yeah, I would actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First, you must apply for an entitlement to link to externals.
All right.
Everybody can get it, but you have to apply first.
You can't just do it.
You must continue to use the Apple App Store payment system.
You're not allowed to replace it with an external link.
You have to use the Apple Store payment system as well as your link out.
you must link only on one page
in your app
and it must be a page that the user navigates to
it can't be a pop-up or an interstitial
the link must open in a separate browser
not in what's called WebView
a lot of times when you click on a link in an app
it'll just open in the app
allowed has to go to Safari
or whatever the default browser the user has set
the developer must also
keep track of any payments made
within seven days of the user clicking on that link
and pay Apple a 27% commission on those sales.
That's 3% less than they would pay using the App Store.
Wow.
You know what?
Everything up to that seemed sort of reasonable to me.
Yeah, yeah.
As a concession, because they've never really
even made any concessions on this front, right?
They've never really done.
I find it a little weird that they make you apply to do the link.
sure instead of just the normal like hey I'm putting this through the app store you're going to review it anyway but okay it seems like a necessary paperwork yeah but do you think that's probably because they were like well to give them the benefit of the doubt because there's probably other motivations here but part of it seems like oh well if you let them link off to an external thing we need to prove where that goes so it's not malicious or it's not yeah but they would do that in the app store submission anyway yeah that's true right it's all part of that so why not sure why you have to apply separately for the
entitled me.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
I think they want to track.
They want to put a speed bump and they want to track how many people are doing it.
I actually think it's fine to charge a commission on the external sales because what they're
saying is we pay for operating the app store by the Apple payment system.
If you're not going to use that, we need to charge you for being in the app store because we spend
a lot of money maintaining it and I think that's fair.
You can argue whether 27% is the fair amount versus 30%.
It's less.
There are subscriptions where you only pay 15% in the app store.
There's a small business plan where you only pay 12%.
There's all kinds of exceptions and rules about those.
Those are also less if you go externally, but they're close to the full percentage here.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
I didn't know that, well, do you think it's, is it unusual that the Supreme Court going back to that point skipped on this?
Do you think that's weird?
At all? I don't think so. No. The Supreme Court very, very often is misinterpreted as being a legislative agency. It's not. What they do is look at a court case and say, oh, is there a point of law that we can elucidate? Is there an important point of law here? And in this case, they're like, no, no, there's nothing else we can do here.
Well, I do have other things on their docket, I suppose. Well, anyway, more on that issue today when you go live with the Daily Tech News show. That'll be today at two people.
PM Mountain Time.
And you'll have the big
Samsung blowout today, right?
That's the plan.
You're going to be all the details.
Everything will be there.
Yep.
And the new AI system
is going to be called
Tom Merritt's special little friend.
I'm excited about that.
That's TMSF.
Yes, for short.
Tom Rites special little friend.
That's how it'll be.
Yeah, Wentway Dow from Android Faithful
is going to join us to talk about it.
So if you listen to Android Faithful,
yesterday you got the pregame or if you listen to it this morning you get the pregame and then
when's going to join us right after the announcement and talk about the post game always good
episodes when that happens well good luck everybody today with that good luck samsung with all your
weird announcements and tom merritt thanks for being here and i'm uh i hope that cough gives you less
grief i don't hope you feel better we'll see you soon man bye no all right he when he gets
coughs they're the same kind of coughs i get where
If I start coughing, just kill me.
I can't stop.
Yeah, right.
Like, it's horrible.
Take me a half an hour to get over a bad coughing.
No, and I think because his voice was so rough, he had to turn the gain up on his microphone or something,
because he definitely sounded different.
Like, we were picking up a lot of room noise and even, like, echo from his headphones or something.
Yeah, I was definitely hearing myself.
I don't know what that was, but we made it work, all right?
We talked about tech.
I haven't talked to him yet officially about TMS Vegas, but I got to make.
sure he's planning on coming it would be great to get him for the whole thing we'll usually only
get him for a day but it'd be nice to uh um nice to get him for you know the duration of the deal
yeah i think it just depends on his d tns plans of course that week but um i think he's planning
on being there regardless just a matter of how long so how long yeah exactly and you know
he can always we we made a great dns uh d tns dns dns we used dns to uh have a great d tns at the show we
You could easily do that all three days for him if we needed to.
And we just have to curb Shojo yelling, let's roll buttholes during the opening of DTNS.
Yeah, that is, we don't, you know, honestly, I'd like her to do that at every inappropriate time if she can't.
Oh, I think they'd agree.
But I'm not sure Tom wants that.
Yeah, he might not want that.
Yeah.
Because it's judging by his reaction, it was when he was not expected.
He was a little surprised by it at the time.
That's right.
All right, we are going to go forward, never back, always forward, and do this.
Well, what do you recommend?
Oops.
Well, what do you recommend?
I don't know why that played twice.
Sorry, everybody.
I recommend it twice.
That's how much I like it.
Is she waiting for an answer?
Is that why she keeps asking?
I don't know.
These robots are getting more and more demanding.
Anyway, hey, everybody, it's time for recommendals.
Time to recommend stuff we've seen on streaming services,
and we would like to walk into the program.
a couple of people to help us do that. First off, Nicole Spagg. Hi, Nicole.
Hey, friends. Hello. Hello. How are you? This is your new voice.
Also, I just had a really good sleep last night. Oh, good. I don't have those very often, so I'm jealous.
The Emmy Awards, when they brought out Dermit McRoney, I thought about you and could not, could not stop thinking about calling him Dermott McRolny.
Is he doing something right now that I don't know about? Or was he just a... No, they had, it was like an anniversary of the first
season of American Horror Story, so they reunited him with the house.
Did they show his butt?
They did not show his butt, but they did bring out Anthony Anderson in a skin-tight,
in the skin-tight gimp suit.
Oh, perfect.
And you didn't know that it was Anthony Anderson.
You didn't know, right, exactly.
The gimp stood around for a long time before he took his mask up.
Before he finally pulled his mask off.
And then he stood sideways, and you saw pretty much what Anthony Anderson is packing.
That's good.
That's good.
very revealing, yeah.
Well, well done, television, arts and sciences.
It's good to have you here.
Also, of course, Randy's here as well.
Hi, Randy.
Good morning, morning stream.
The Emmys was, Emmys was surprisingly good.
They really put a lot of famous people on stage and gave them a lot of good jokes.
Yeah, it was all right.
He really did, yeah.
I saw a scene of the Allie McBeal cast reunited dancing around.
Dancing in the bathroom.
They get, and they pretty much pulled just about everybody in that,
except for Jane, wasn't Jane Kerkowski?
Yeah, who was?
She was. It was Jane Kerkowski on that show.
Yeah, she wasn't in that group or in the stage thing.
And the Cheers stuff was, you know, where did we see the Cheers thing?
Was that different?
Yeah, the Chers group was there too, yep.
Everybody but Shelley Long and Woody.
And, of course, everybody alive except for Woody and Shelley Long.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Coach wouldn't be there either, I guess.
No, coach.
Yeah, it seemed all right this time around.
The in-memorium section where you spent the entire time waiting for a picture of Matthew Perry had me in tears, like tears all over my face, the whole face.
I know.
It was especially like seeing Andre Brower and Lance Riddick getting reminded of like, oh, my God, just, you know, heartbreak of those two guys.
It's like most of 80s TV died this year for some reason.
There was a lot.
Yeah.
There was at least one from every important thing.
Did they also, did they do anything with Norman Lear?
I didn't see this bill.
Oh, he was the first.
He was the, he was the bookend, one bookend and the other bookend was Matthew Perry.
Okay.
That would have been, that's a good thing to do.
That guy was in charge of a whole lot of TV for a whole lot of time.
Yes, he was.
Yep.
All right, let's get to these recommendals.
Brian, we'll start with you.
Tell us about your clip and we'll play it.
Yeah, this is a movie that features a story that we've kind of seen over and over and over again,
but I am going to say that this is the best iteration.
of that story that has been released.
And I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the international best picture winner at the 2024 Academy Awards.
Wow. Let's give it a shot.
Coco Nicolich wrote a letter to his parents.
Dear mom and dad, I'm writing to you eight days after the plane crashed.
We're in a beautiful place, completely surrounded by mountains.
With a lake nearby, though, and freeze when the thaw starts.
We're all doing fine.
As of now, there are 27 survivors.
Nando Prado's sister passed away today.
I miss you very much.
and I'm constantly praying to God
that he at least
lets me see you one last time
so this is
the Paul Giamatti comedy
and just kidding
the holders exactly yes
no this is called Society of the Snow
it's the latest retelling
of the story about the
Uruguayan rugby team
that crashed in the Andes Mountains and spent 72 days there with, you know, no food,
except for members of the Uruguayan rugby team.
The, uh, probably the most famous version of this story is alive from 1993 with, uh,
Ethan Hawk, but, uh, this is the Spanish, you know, this is the Spanish film. And so you get,
um, characters who look like they came from Uruguay. Um, this is kind of the, you know, it's, it's
the thing that inspired yellow jackets. It's been parodied. It's been talked about. It's kind of
fellow jackets, basically, is what this is. But it's called Society of the Snow, and it is Spain's
selection for the Best International Feature Film category at the upcoming Academy Awards. And it is
excellent. This is such a great version of this story that is
so believable in its presentation.
You're trying to figure out how they're filming this,
how they're doing this,
because it looks like they're stuck in the Andes.
I know it's CGI, but it's so well done.
I mean, are the exteriors all CGI?
Like, they're on a soundstage and surrounding the screen?
I assume so, but it's so freaking believable that I'm not even 100% sure.
that it wasn't, I mean, it maybe was filmed in the mountains.
Probably wasn't filmed in the Andes, but certainly could have been filmed in the mountains
and had that being, you know, realistic snow and that sort of thing.
The, we watched the subtitled version, but I'd listened to some of the dubbed version this
morning when I was recording that clip, and it's like, oh, yeah, you know, this is good
and it's not distractingly, you know, you get that, that, that, uh,
it sounds like an animated film because everybody spends the entire time this close to the microphone and never gets further away or side face or anything like that um it's really it's it's just it is a heartbreaking and beautiful and amazing film especially when you think about how how long these guys survived out there and i didn't get that when we watched alive and i can't remember if we watched a film sack or if i just watched it on my own but the
the um it wasn't film sack okay um it was such a um uh it didn't feel as treacherous
oh it was filmed in the andes thank you uh scott looks like it was filmed in uh in the andies
according to its i mdb listing it was mostly the andies and a couple other local local to that area
which that adds a lot of authenticity to this it really does because they look like the actors
look like they're freaking freezing filming this.
There we go, yeah, including the actual crash site in the Andes they filmed in.
So, they really went authentic in this and filmed it exactly where the plane crash.
Could you imagine something went wrong?
Do you say this was English or?
I mean, it's Spanish, but the dubbed version is fine.
That sounded pretty good, that clip.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's narration, so that it's,
different than the people arguing over who they're going to eat next.
But when it's narration, you expect it to be somebody really close to the microphone
reading. Still, it's really good. This is, man,
so much more powerful, I think, than the
than alive. And,
man, Henrik says the plane crash looks better and alive, though. I
disagree completely. This felt like you were in a plane crash
that scene that takes places that are crashing.
the plane. It's amazing. Here's the funniest part. We're watching it and it's getting to the end and you know, you might know the story that some of them do get rescued. I won't say how many so that if you haven't seen alive or this, you don't know what's going to happen. But during the rescue scene, I'm like, wow, this music feels like, it's like I'm watching Lost when the Oceanic Six are getting rescued. And I'm like, how is this feeling like that?
feeling so much like that scene in lost.
Sure enough, it's Michael Giacchino
doing the music for this as well, and he did the music
for Lost. So you do get
very much
of a lost feel in parts of this,
which also is about a plane crash and rescue.
And you can't pick
a better one for things that are
like snowy and cold. Michael Giacchino's
sound is snowy
and cold. Yeah, I agree. It absolutely
haunting. It's perfect for the sort of thing. I don't know how
that guy, I mean, he's so
busy. He made his own movie this year.
I guess it was last year, but he's just been so swamped and yet he still gets picked for just like perfect music match stuff like this.
I think that's great.
He's incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
If you care about those sorts of things, Rotten Tomatoes got a 90% on there right now.
So it's very, very favorable.
Yeah, I can't say enough good about this.
It's just really, really good.
And more incredible now that I know that they actually filmed this in the actual.
actual location of the crash.
And that explains how they were able to make it look so good without using
CGI.
Well done.
And this is a Netflix original, correct?
It's on Netflix.
It's on Netflix.
I don't know if it's Netflix original, but it is on Netflix.
Their name's all over it, I assume it must be.
Are they?
Okay.
Then it's a...
They paid for it.
That's usually all that means is they were like approached with the film.
Production companies.
Yeah, Netflix is listed.
Third is the production company.
So there you go.
Yeah.
All right.
Awesome.
Very good.
And, like, as far as being kids safe, oh, there's a little bit of nudity in there.
As far as being kids safe, maybe watch it with your older kids.
I wouldn't watch it with a kid younger than 15, probably.
And is that because it's gory?
Is it like, is it just, is it never fun?
Just intense.
It sounds like it's never fun.
There's some surprisingly fun moments, actually, that are like, you know, they're in the cockpit.
writing poet, like
killing time by
making up poems and reading them
to each other about the crash
and stuff.
It's,
there are light moments,
surprisingly light moments in this.
Yeah.
This is,
this is a big one for Netflix.
I hope that he,
I think it'll probably do well,
award season.
Yeah.
I hope so.
I hope it,
people have been,
Hollywood reporter's been saying
this could even make it on the,
um,
in the best picture list.
I think this is,
I haven't seen any of the other
candidates so there's a way for me to say it's a
shoe in for the best international feature film
but it's a high bar
to set for the other international
submissions. There's been a lot
to talk about a certain Godzilla movie
in that category. And everybody
I have gotten so many people telling me to go see
Godzilla minus one while it's still in theaters.
Carter saw it and will not
shut up about it. And she doesn't
like this stuff. I know. Right?
It's crazy. Like I've seen some
recent Godzilla movies. They're kind of fun.
Shin Godzilla was all right from 2016,
but it wasn't like, you know,
mind-numbingly world-changing,
but this thing sounds like the deal, man.
It's crazy how many people are, yeah,
like this has gotten so many people excited about Godzilla.
Yeah, that's awesome.
All right.
So there you go.
It's called Society of the Snow.
I'll say the name again,
and it's on Netflix, as are all four of our films this week.
La Socied de la Nive, Neve.
sure exactly Spanish name
if you want to look it up in Spanish you can
but look up society of the snow
yeah and don't do it based on my pronunciation
you'll get to go to the wrong class
uh all right let's get over to
Nicole we got a little clip for you here
any setup you want to do here for this
uh I found it this morning
didn't know it was there I'm very
happy I found it because it's really really
really good oh good let's play the clip
and we'll stay on Netflix for this one here you go
we may not think about it
But we're all a part of something larger than any single one of us.
And our work is one of the forces that connects us.
It looks crazy downtown.
Good morning, it appears how to tell me to assist you.
A revolution is happening right before our eyes.
What happens if they replace you with a machine?
Artificial intelligence, remote work, spiraling inequality.
It can be hard to make sense of where we're going.
What if people from three different industries, from the service,
entrance to the C-Suite, invited us into their lives and told us, what makes a good job good?
All right. I hear former president Barack Obama speaking.
Yeah, it makes me just really hate this film. Oh, I hate it. I don't care what's about him.
So it's a dokey series. It's four episodes, and you did hero Barack Obama, and he runs this
whole thing. And he, it's called working. So our lives revolve around.
working. I got my first job at, God, what was I, 14? I worked in the service industry. I've worked
the service industry a lot early on. What I love about this docu-series is that he focuses on
what it was like in the past, what it's currently like, and he looks at, for the first episode,
like service jobs what it and I've always said I feel like every single person should work a service
job at some point in their life to understand how you should be treating people um so I was a dishwasher
and then I became a side order cook and then I did waitressing I worked at a grocery store I worked
Oh, this one, service booth operator at a hardware store.
I got yelled out a lot.
That's the last customer service basically is, yeah.
It's all customer service.
I'm returning to this hammer.
It doesn't pull out nails.
You, no, it was, the guy yelled at me for the ceiling fan falling down.
Oh, God, because he didn't install it right, probably.
Because you didn't install it correctly, you know me?
She's.
Like, he was just yelling.
at me. So, I really appreciate this docu-series because it kind of dives into what it means
to be a service worker, how the gig economy affects people, how people are working multiple
jobs just to get by. They follow a DoorDash worker. But she also has aspirations for being a
makeup artist, and they go into this housekeeper at a hotel. They talk about unions. They talk about
the history of unions. They talk about AI. I mean, it's just really well done. And having Barack
Obama kind of be the host of it, because he goes and he's walking and he's talking. And I'm like,
he just cares. Like, you just feel like he really cares. Like, I don't know. It just
but then he goes into the middle class and how the middle class is how it's kind of an anomaly
that there is a middle class like the big picture kind of stuff like how it came to be and and
then they're going to go so I've only watched the first two episodes I've watched um the service
industry and then the middle class and we're going into kind of the tech industry and kind of getting
into and finally I think the last episode is like the boss like the high tier kind of working like
what does the different types of work afford you in life what makes you happy what do you know
each generation kind of has an idea of what work means to them so I'm curious what was your
first job was it a service industry job mine was yeah I did I fact mine was 14 and dishes at a place
called Braanagan's and I ended up same kind of trajectory I ended up working it was it wasn't a
cook kind of thing we did sandwiches and stuff and ice cream so I went from dishes to making
ice cream in this big ice cream machine to cutting meat early in the morning and then later
working the counter and doing all that and then at some point I managed it I think I was all of 15
by the time all this happened but it was a really good you're 100% right so that's
really great way of not only understanding how you should be treating people, but learning how poorly
some people do treat people. Yeah. And I think that that made a giant difference in how I see
people in the service industry. Like I never get all wound up or pissed at a place ever. Like you could,
you could almost fart in my face and spit my food. You could almost do that before I would like have a
big issue with you. And even then my assumption is, service workers.
Yeah. And even then I would be like, I don't know what their life's like or what they're going through. I don't want to judge this. I'm not going to eat that now. And I might say, yeah, there's a problem here and I might leave. But I'm not going to give this. I'm not going to rail on this dude. I'm just going to make some, I'm going to make some assumptions on the side of he's having a rough one. And I just happen to be the. It's funny. I didn't realize I was a workaholic until I had kids. Like, I love to work. Like, I've always.
I don't know, I was brought, we were, because it talks about being poor, like, and I don't
necessarily like to think that, but yeah, we were, we were living paycheck to paycheck, you know,
early, especially when I was much younger, my dad was always injured, like, it was just, it was just
hard.
There's something about growing up in that lifestyle that instills a very strong work ethic.
Yeah. And so I just feel like I always have to work. I always have to make sure that we have enough. And, you know, I always have to improve my skills. I'm always learning. Just kind of like, okay, I always have like a plan. Honestly, I have more than a plan B. I have a plan D. Like, okay, if this doesn't work, then I can do this. And then I've always been like that.
And that's when you come from a very kind of shaky, unstable upbringing.
And this kind of dives into that in the very first episode, which I really appreciate how they presented it.
And it goes through.
And I've been so fortunate with the opportunities and the people.
And, you know, for me, I was told I should be a cosmetologist.
And I was like, no.
Oh, by the test that we all took in junior high or no.
No, this was my dad telling, my dad told me.
Wow.
That's what his sisters were.
And I had a really big argument with him on, no, I don't want to be a cosmetologist.
I wanted to go to college because I enjoy technology.
And if I'm being honest, it was watching.
people like Leo Lipport and Tom Merritt and watching tech TV that inspired me to think
more of what I wanted to do and it and it this show kind of goes into like how do how do people
build themselves up like what are the opportunities and how that's kind of dwindling away
and mentors and kind of bringing people up um so it
I really, really enjoy this docu-series.
It seems like good timing, too, because everybody's talking about the way the job market's shifting.
I was reading a whole thing yesterday about how many actual square feet of offices currently abandoned in New York.
Right.
And what the remote stuff has done to that business and how they're trying to cope.
Like, this is a really fascinating time of mixed stuff.
Like, on this side, there's inflation.
On this side, there's this.
There's new opportunities.
The gig economy.
created a whole new way of making money, but also it's starting, its weaknesses are becoming
much more obvious. People like us, independent creators, didn't exist 20 years ago. So what is
that? And what's the future of that? It's fascinating. When I tell people what we do,
they're like, what? Yeah, they have no idea. They don't understand, like, applying for a house
loan with our business. They're like, what? Like, we have to go through so many hoops. Like,
no, we really do make living doing this. No, it's a night.
Every time we need to do anything around here, I have to go through a hundred hoops.
Nobody else has to to get it done.
I hate it.
It's almost like they don't want us doing this or something.
It's weird.
I don't like it.
Well, and it talks about the kind of generational, like in the 50s, how much it cost
to buy a house and how the millennials are really going to be like the first generation
a long time that are not able to do as well as their parents.
Like it costs four times as much to buy a house now.
And they talk about how everything like TVs and clothes, you know, are more affordable.
But it's the big things like houses that are, it's really messed up right now for that generation.
And it is.
And I worry for my kids.
And I'm just like, oh, God.
Like, how do I guide my children to learn things that probably don't exist yet?
Because the technology with AI and they talk about self-driving cars and the gig economy and all of that.
And it's like what the path is a little scary.
And I really appreciate this docu series for kind of trying to dive into that.
A little side note.
My daughter who's what, 26 now or whatever, Carter, her generation, just the sheer idea that you could just buy a house at 26 just sounds insane to them.
That doesn't make any sense to them.
And we had the 94-year-old guy, my mom's husband, John, said, well, it's your age.
He actually said these words at a get-together.
He says, at your age, you should be in a house by now.
Right.
And this is a guy who bought his house, which is currently worth about a million two.
He bought it when it was $14,000 back in like the 60s or something.
Yeah.
And they show that too.
Like, we bought that house for $22,000.
Yeah.
Yeah, and he looks, and he still, he doesn't, he just doesn't see it.
He just doesn't see how it's changed.
Even though he knows his house is currently worth way more than he would ever have paid for it by magnitudes of percentages, he still just doesn't see it.
So there's that whole part of this, you know, where the generations just can't, especially the far flung ones, the real youngs and the real olds are just like, what are you even talking about?
Both sides have no idea.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Higher ground is on a row right now.
I'm a
production company
Every yeah everything they put out
It's top rated wins awards
This is uh
Barack Obama just won an Emmy last week
For this and it's his second straight year
Winning for Best Narrator
And he?
That's awesome
Yeah and his
The category for this year was
Barack Obama,
Mahershala Ali, Angela Bassett
Morgan Freeman and Pedro Pascal
Like the best narrators you could imagine.
That's pretty great.
That's pretty great.
I'm watching.
I just appreciate that Barack Obama is out there trying to educate in a new way.
Things like the government with the G word.
I recommended that last year, I think.
And then this is another great one.
The only problem I have with it is nothing to do with him or the quality of the content.
it's that it's some people's inability, regardless of what the content is,
their inability to watch this because they have a political reason not to watch it.
And I kind of, part of me, part of me wishes that he ran a production company and had other hosts.
But I realize the only reason I want that is so that more people could, like the people most affected by all these issues.
People who have existing resistance just to check something out.
Yeah.
Right.
And people who can benefit from a discussion about economy, about job.
jobs about changes in this world are absolutely on the other side of the aisle as well.
So I feel bad that they're just point blank not going to consume this for that one simple
reason, even if he's just doing a good job hosting a thing, it's still not enough for them.
Right.
And I think that's why he got Adam Conover to do the G word.
Right.
He hosted that.
He just, Brock was just in the beginning, just kind of had a little intro part to it.
And I would want, by the way, if this was a documentary about work and it was a, uh,
George Bush, I'd watch it. If it was Reagan, I'd watch it. Like, it's not a problem for me.
If the content is meaningful, where they land on the political spectrum, it is, it is with some
people, I got it straight up say it. I don't want former President Trump to narrate a nature
documentary. Freaking F off. I have zero interest in that, or a jobs one for that matter.
It's nothing to do with his political affiliation, which, by the way, has hopscotched over the
decades. So, you know, I don't even think he's actually a Republican at this point. My point is
I want people who are smart to talk and to tell us stuff and to prepare things and to show us
things. Barack Obama's a smart man. And that sounds interesting to me. I wish people, more people
would see it. So I hope they do. So if you're listening to this and you're usually like,
well, things in there. It's part of a conspiracy. Freaking just do it for yourself. And if you don't like
it's still fine i can't you know that's you and that's you know everybody gets their opinions but
just watch the first episode i loved the people that he featured i just some great stories
about people just working i mean we all are connected with i mean not everyone i mean there are
people that have trust funds but but most of us probably everyone listening to this
knows what it's like to work a very hard job to be in a situation where you just
just like, oh my God, how am I going to, I got, you know, $20 in my bank account, I got a
bill coming up, like I've felt that. It is awful. And so, and it kind of gets into that
and kind of where we are, where we've been, where we're going kind of thing. Nice. So check it out
that's working on Netflix, four episodes, dig in. Randy, let's dive over to you, sir. What
you got here we are lightning in the mood a lot thank you a lot this is uh what you're about
to hear is a comedy it's a it is a no laugh track sitcom it's got a lot of connective tissue
with things like the office uh this is an australian thing you're about to hear a recent
divorcee and also an attorney who really doesn't care about anything and just
wants to get by talking to her soon-to-be new boss.
All right, here we go.
Is there a reference with that?
Yeah, it should be there.
The agency didn't send...
Do you want me to give them a call, see if they can send it over?
We're all good, Helen.
You know why?
Because I like your face.
It's fun.
A lot of experience in that face.
It says I've been around the block and know what I'm doing, yeah?
I'm a workhorse, yeah?
Plain and simple.
I get the job done.
Am I right?
Yeah, that's me.
plain and simple and like a horse.
Helen, when someone dies, it's sad.
Then it's kind of boring.
It's a lot of business, a lot of paperwork.
What we've found here is that people would prefer to deal with a more mature lady.
Can't say lady anymore.
It's sort of female, non-male, whatever you call yourself.
Woman usually.
Point is you are one.
So tick, tick and tick, Helen, Tudor Fisk.
Tick and tick, as in I got the job.
Yes, no one in this pile even comes close to your age.
What are you?
50, 55?
47.
You look older, which works for me.
Start Monday.
This sounds great.
I want to see you like this.
And Fisk is the work of Kitty Flanagan, a stand-up comic from Australia, who is also our star.
And really, really close to a misanthrope in this show.
She is just, she's been beaten down by life.
And she just, like I said, she just wants to get by.
She moves into an Airbnb in a different city, takes a job at a place that is going to what Nicole just said, like the example of everything wrong with working.
And she just, she plays the butt monkey throughout.
It's got two seasons so far.
It's on Netflix.
It's all Australian, right?
The Australian cast entirely looks like.
Yes.
That's what I can tell?
Okay.
It's a little bit of a David Brent.
thing going on that I can, you know, in this, uh, yes, in this clip, geez.
It sounds funny, dude.
I, I'm all in.
I like, you know what I like?
I like Australian comedies.
I'll just say it.
Old ones, new ones.
They've always, they always make me laugh every time.
Don't know why.
A couple years ago, I came on this show and I recommended a, uh, an English show called
Mum.
And this is almost identical to Mum.
It is, uh, characters who are all dumb.
There's not a smart person in the bunch.
and they're they're all so selfish but in a kind-hearted way and it's just it never stops being fun
do they have more planned first season with 2021 they're still going as far as you know right so the
the second season kind of uh i don't know what the australian deal is but it came out and then it
hit netflix a few weeks ago oh okay okay and yes i'm sure there's going to be more of this
because it's just it's the best thing kitty flanagan ever did like it's it's and it's
It's got to be cheap to produce.
This is like it almost entirely takes place in a house and in an office.
I'm, uh, sign me up.
Didn't even know about it.
First I'd heard of this.
So I'm, I'm all in.
Uh, that's great.
It's called, uh, Fisk available on Netflix, seasons one through two currently available.
And it does look like based on IMPB, a third season is planned.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, she, uh, made this show with a co-creator named Vincent Sheehan.
and I am now like okay I'm going to find out everything this guy did
it's a bunch of Australian stuff like it's all a bunch of TV like miniseries and
TV movies and things and none of them have risen above and that's fascinating
like when you realize there's this whole other world when you get far enough away
around the world you know like there's there's probably a New Zealand TV industry
going on there's probably some really good stuff there that you just
haven't found. Yeah, we got Brit box for Britain. We should get a, what would they call it?
Oh, yeah. Ossie box. Oceana box. Oceana box. That's not bad.
Oh, there you go. Then you could get, yeah, jam your New Zealand in there. They won't be happy about it.
Exactly. Don't limit it to just Australia. Yeah. If the stereotypes should be to believe, neither will be
happy about that arrangement, but still. This show, anyway. This show has all of the stereotypes that you
would expect, but none of them are just a pure rip-off of, like, the office or community or
what have you.
Like, they're all their own special Aussie take on the disaffected boss, the super selfish
co-worker, the front desk person who is the biggest dits that ever lived.
Like, those sound like just plain stereotypes, but it's this take on that that is, and it's
also very modern.
A lot of those shows that you're, that I just named, they have kind of.
of throwback comedy and this is this is very current these people using are using smartphones
and they're on twitch and so on okay oh interesting yeah they're dressed kind of like it's the 90s
but maybe that's just us that's her this character again has given up on so much in life
that she literally only she has three copies of the same wardrobe and she just wears it all the time
i love it love it uh all right let's get to my
This is a quick one, but it's one that I loved when it happened for real, or when it was happening week to week, back on the AT&T network, which does not exist anymore as a thing.
It's now rolled into Warner Brothers or whatever.
But on Netflix, boy, we're all Netflix today, I just realized.
We are.
Wow.
I said that at the beginning.
Oh, you did?
Red on our light over at Netflix.
Red giant N light.
Yeah, N light.
Two end lights.
This is one that was originally there.
It is now here.
And it is so great.
even though that ended prematurely, I think
it's worth watching, and one of the funniest things
ever here you go. Look, Loudermil, let's face it,
you're not warm and fuzzy.
You're hard and angular
and uncomfortable.
You're like an IKEA chair
who leads sobriety meetings.
Be that as it may. I think the work that your
organization does benefits a number of people,
and for that reason, I would hate
to have to suspend your meetings
because of one unruly
facilitator.
Okay. So,
am I getting a prize or what I need a favor all right the move the show is called louder milk
this came out back in 2017 ran through 2020 but it was kind of spread out I think there
were only a total of three seasons yeah that's correct um it is uh Ron Livingston if you couldn't
tell who that was talking not playing playing his office space character basically yes this is
it's almost like the office space character
got out of the office and then did a new thing after a bout of really bad alcoholism
and then is now basically kind of back to center of being the office the office space worker
was it kind of an office theme today too very much of an office theme and then it crashed plane
yeah so there you go yeah it's a little bit different there so no traveling and don't work in
an office is what you're learning today that's right um sam louder milk the character played by
Ron Livingston lives in this apartment with his friend, Will Sassow, he plays a character
and Ben Burns, but Will Sassos in this one of my favorite roles of his. He is a co, sort of recovering
alcoholic. There's a whole story there. And the story revolves around him running these meetings
for others who are, you know, abusers and are trying to get off the sauce. Brian Regan in a very
strange role for him as one of the people that come to these meetings all the time, but also very
different kind of thing for him in general.
It's just, and plus he's not in shows really
ever, Brian Regan, but
in this he is, and he's freaking
hilarious in it. He's really good in it.
It's got all kinds of people
you'll recognize from other stuff, but
you know, the main ones are Will Sasser, Ron
Livingston, Brian Regan, and then Anna
Savick, I think is how you say her name?
It's A-N-J-A. It's kind of a
So maybe Anya? Eastern European
name, yeah, I'm not sure. Anya, maybe.
Like you said, Claire Wilkes,
Wilkes, or is her character,
Anyway, she's a 19-year-old drug addict who's trying to get clean,
and she is very, very good in this as well.
Anyway, it is one of the funniest shows.
It also has a lot of heart, and I like that combo a lot,
especially when they pull it off.
I think Loudermilk would have had a way better time somewhere besides 18-E
because nobody had that shit when it came out, and it was their big hit.
Well, that and I think Mr. Mercedes was on there as well, I think.
can't remember that was also very good
that was a Stephen King adaptation
anyway now it's on Netflix
all three seasons it's never going to be made again
so you know what you're getting into
with these three seasons and it is very
very good it's very sweary
so just know that if you're putting the kids in front of it
you know I don't know how old you want them to be before
they hear a lot of F bombs because there's a ton of
them but it might be my favorite thing
that Ron Livingston ever did
and Will Sassow is amazing
this is also created co-create
by Bobby Mort and Peter Farrelly, one of the Farrelly brothers.
Well, and Bobby Farrelly is an executive producer.
Oh, is he in there as well?
I didn't see that.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
He's right there.
Do you have both Farley's?
It's not your typical Farley comedy, though, and that's what I like about it.
Like, the Farley comedies, I don't know, I'm always hit and miss with those.
I like them, but there's stuff that's just, too outrageous.
Too outrageous, yeah, too farcical for me.
This isn't like that.
This is more down-to-earth, kind of straight up.
in your face, sort of people living their lives and doing their stuff. And there are times I laugh
out loud at this show. So if you haven't seen Loudermilk, go check it out. Available now on Netflix.
These, of course, are all up on QuicktmS.L.I. Brian's part already put them there. I see him right there.
There there. Yep. So if you guys are trying to track that shit down or you want to see what we did
last week or the week before or way back, it's all there in perpetuity. Randy, it's always nice
to see you. Nicole, you as well. I hope you both have a fantastic week before we see.
see you again. Same.
Yeah. Watch Crapopoulos.
And tell me how to sleep well. Oh, I lost her. Oh, well. That conversation will happen in the ether.
Good times. All right. That's going to do it for today's show. Big thanks, everybody for being here.
We got one quick final note to get us out of here. It's about the California temp change.
I received this text whilst the show was going on. Oh, really? Okay. So this is ripped from today's text messages.
For me, today's text headlines. Sedona Sam wrote in.
and said, when you have that kind of temperature change in California,
they call that earthquake weather.
Yikes.
I'd never heard that before.
Is that true?
Must be true.
I don't, I didn't know that either.
And that, uh, so basically like, buckle down, folks.
Hope you're okay.
Yeah.
This is the,
because it was like 30 degree difference or something in the middle of the night for us,
or not 30.
Wow.
It would have been, geez, uh, closer to 20 degree difference when we had that melting sound outside.
but I don't understand why earthquake weather would have any temperature changes.
Do I not understand earthquakes?
Well, I mean, I guess if things are rapidly warming up,
that means they're going to expand.
And if there's a, you know, the shift that's caused by the one part expanding faster than another part could cause earthquakes.
Chat's all saying it's bull of crap, but we don't know.
Oh, really? Yeah, we don't know.
debunked years ago says
Muset Kitty
Dr. Calhoun says
fake news
Randy says never even heard of it
Okay
He lives there
So maybe it's a
Maybe it's bunk
I don't know
Maybe
Well thank you Sedona Sam
For your bunk
That'll make Sedona Sam feel better
Yeah yeah
If that's the case
And they probably
To worry about
I guess they can still
Call it that
It doesn't
Maybe it just doesn't have
Any effect on earthquakes
Maybe
Yeah
Because if that was true
I should have
We live on a major fault
And we should have
earthquakes every five seconds
If that were true
because we have those shifts in temperature all the time.
So, yeah, that sounds like it's bunk.
Let's move out of here and get out of here.
How about this?
How about everybody go to patreon.com slash TMS?
In fact, I'll give you even a better idea.
Go to frogpants.com slash TMS.
That's linked there.
So is ways to request songs at the end of the show.
So are all the other things we do when it comes to audience participation.
If you want to be a part of the show in a more meaningful way,
all that stuff is there.
That's frogpans.com slash TMS.
Go there today.
all right
yes we should play a song
we should let's do it
don't give me the the fingers
there scott the UK fingers is that
offensive in the UK this thing right here
yeah it's still offensive so this is peace
this is what is this okay right
what do they do over what does this mean we might do this
yeah that's that's what you
zeli explain that while I read this
yeah let me know sandrider 3 rode in and said
hey Scott and Brian this is a birthday request
turning 70
my cancer is returned so I'm
I'm just taking it one day at a time.
TMS is a bright spot in my day.
Thanks for the smiles, signed Sand Rider 3.
Dude, we are hoping you're doing okay.
That sucks.
Yeah, I don't like that at all.
No, sir.
Sand Rider wanted to hear any Moody Blues or Bob Seeger cover.
You had me at Moody Blues.
I love this song, and I love this cover by Fountains of Wayne.
This is from the Fountains of Wayne Sky Full of Holes, extended edition from 2011.
It's Fountains of Wayne and a cover of The Story in Your Eyes.
And I've decided that we're really not to blame
For the love that's deep inside us now
It's still the same
And the sound we make together
It's the music to the story in your eyes
It's been shining down upon me now
I realize
Listen to the tide
Slowly turning
And wash all our heartaches away
We're part of the fire that is burning
From the ashes we can build another day
But I'm frightened for your children
And the life that we're living is in pain
In the sunshine we've been waiting for
Close the rain
Listen to the tide, slowly turning.
Wash all our heartaches away.
We're part of the fire that is burning.
From the ashes we can build another day.
But I'm frightened for your children
That the life that we are living is in vain
In the sunshine we've been waiting for
Go turn the rain
When the final line is over
It is certain that the curtain's not a fall
I can't hide inside your sweet love
Forevermore
Thank you.
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