The Morning Stream - TMS 2588: Goldman Sucks

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Before The South Parkening. Look! There's one of the lesser Hemsworths! Perfectly stuck landing award. Venus d' Groot. adding with Wolves. Simon & Buffett. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Bustle Pocket. B...ismark Omit Leafage Buckbank. Vehicular Cleanliness. Dingos Stole My Country. I find your lack of knowledge of Isla Fisher disturbing. Thank You For Banking With Bono. Kim's Hot Powder. I'm a Barbie Song, Oscars Have Gone Wrong. Monkeys prescribing LSD with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TMS didn't just fall out of the sky fully formed. It persists because of patrons like Bridget Carey Davis, Desmond Rice, Demand Rice. Demand Rice, wherever you get your rice. And Albert Vandenberg. Be like them today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on today's show, before the South Parketing. Look, there's one of the lesser Hemsworths. Perfectly Stuck Landing Award.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Venus de Groot. Gatting with wolves. Simon and Buffet. Crouching Tiger. Hidden Bustle Pocket. Bismark, Omit, Leifidge. Buckbank Vehicular cleanliness Dingo stole my country
Starting point is 00:00:34 I find your lack of knowledge of Ila Fisher disturbing Thank you for banking with Bono Kim's hot powder I'm a Barbie song Oscars have gone wrong Monkeys prescribing LSD with Dan and more
Starting point is 00:00:47 on this episode of the morning stream He likes Vehicular Cleanliness and World War II history He doesn't like Celebrity Obsession or hunting trophies I am Frank
Starting point is 00:01:03 and Frank must go I love I love that I'm everybody welcome to TMS it is the morning stream for Tuesday January 23rd, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson, and that is Brian Ibbett.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Brian. Hello. Hello. Hello. I hope you had a decent night, you know? I did have a decent night. It was, you know what it was? It was basically just hanging out. I had made some steak with Tina, some steak, potatoes, carrots for dinner, and then crashed in front of the TV set. And we watched season two, a majority of the episode. Because I can pretty much say that this won't get recommended because I recommended season one.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And I'm, you know, it's my own personal rule not to just keep doing seasons. I've done it. I've done it before. Before people go and look up, O'Brien, actually, you did do that in recommendals. Number 11. We watched Wolf Like Me, Season 2. Ila Fisher, Josh Gad. She's a werewolf.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, I like it. They have a relationship. Yeah. And they have a little werewolf, puppies, wolf dog. Well, as a matter of fact, this season is all about the second season. She gets pregnant. Oh, geez. There's the big concern.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Is the baby going to be a human or is the baby going to be a wolf? I haven't heard a thing about this show, whether I knew it existed. I know. Yeah, it's funny that it doesn't get more attention because it's actually really, really cool. Is it a comedy? Is it a comedy? Is it a comedy? It is.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's comedy with drama elements, but it's probably more comedic than anything else. Okay. Well, sign me up. I will check it out. Wolf like me, and that is on Hulu as well, I believe. Look at all this Hulu business, man. Or is a prime maybe. No, it's Hulu.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It is. Peacock is where it is. Oh, it's peacock. That's what it is. Yeah. Peacock original. That's how little I care. I basically, like, we have our.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We have our, what you've got in your queue next strip on the Apple TV, and that's what we go by. It's like, yep, boom, that's the wrong with that. They, you know, works. Why not? It's a good, it's a good method. I do like both Eila Fisher and Josh Gad. This seems like maybe something I'd be into. You probably would, and this is a good one for, like, the first three episodes, you can knock them out
Starting point is 00:03:49 in an hour if they feel like they're about 20 minutes long each, and you'll know right away if you like it or don't like it. All right. The funniest thing about it. about it to me is that it takes place in Australia. Yeah. And Ila Fisher, who's Australian, speaks in an American accent. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah. While everybody around them is... I didn't know she was... Australian. I didn't know she was Australian at all. I know. I know. Because you never see her...
Starting point is 00:04:20 You never see her in a role where she... Where she has her accent. I haven't any way. I know she starred on a soap opera and... in Australia, as everyone does. Yeah, of course. Kylie and Hemsworth and, you know, all these people got their start on neighbors or whatever. Yeah, that's your, you got to get through that gauntlet before you can come and completely infiltrate the American studio system and become dominant here.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Like all the Australians do, they could take over tomorrow if they wanted. Just boom. Hemsworth would stand up and give the signal and then, you know, Kate, what's her name, would stand up and go, charge and then you'd have everybody you'd even roll it yeah just wheelchair in old that's not a knife
Starting point is 00:05:07 this is a knife guy or just wheel him in Paul Hogan yeah Paul Hogan they're ready they're ready to go I mean hell they have I can't think anyone's name today
Starting point is 00:05:19 Tom Cruise's ex-wife in movie theaters Nicole Kippman telling everybody how great movies are and they should all go to the movies Yeah, I was thinking about that when we were watching
Starting point is 00:05:30 killing of a sacred deer I'm thinking, yeah, this is not one of those movies that Nicole Kidman is sitting alone watching the AMC saying Even hot break feels good in a place like this Yeah, probably not
Starting point is 00:05:43 When you've got Wacko with a gun Spinning around circles That's all I'm going to say about that film That movie Yeah, that movie I like that movie a lot I know I said it yesterday
Starting point is 00:05:55 I like killing of the sacred deer a lot And so I think I will like This weird What's I called again? Something things pretty You like poor things Yeah Seems like it's right up my alley
Starting point is 00:06:05 And she seems very good in it I think I like poor things Most of all of the Lanthromos Films The catalog The favorite The favorite's still
Starting point is 00:06:16 Up there for me But I would put I would put this lower I would put killing of a sacred deer Lower on the list There's a just the conceit the premise is just such a big it's one that i have a harder time getting across than even the lobster which is which is all goofy premise yeah it is weird the whole thing hangs on
Starting point is 00:06:39 this goofy premise actually so does poor things really you know Frankenstein kind of thing yeah but uh well like i said yesterday i'm all for this dude making weird shit i'm in bring it on buddy you know that uh you know that ila fisher's married to sasha barren cone no i did not Isn't that crazy? Does he say, my wife to her? Probably, yes. Okay, that's cool. Like sleeves of wizard.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, like sleeve of wizard. His original, so I don't know, it's not original, but his one particular appearance for the original movies production on Letterman to promote it is still one of the funniest 20 minutes you'll ever spend watching an old clip of a talk show. Really? It's so good. Dave is just so, yeah. Dave is he's not yeah yeah he's not a goofball so he he's just it's kind of embarrassing for him you know what I mean it's kind of like how he was with Kaufman right with Andy Kaufman how he would just kind of have to be like asking the questions that straddle the line between who the
Starting point is 00:07:44 character is that they're being versus who they really are kind of thing yeah yeah didn't we get a documentary or something something I can't remember how this went but they either proved or disproved whether or not he actually was fighting with Jerry Lawler in that episode. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was a documentary. It was the documentary that Jim Carrey commissioned, right? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Was it the one where is it a different thing? It was a documentary about Andy Kaufman separate from Man in the Moon. But it wasn't the whole Jim Carrey is channeling. no it wasn't that that was called that was called jim and andy or something that was a separate thing that was really good that was really good fascinating but the uh yeah they're one of those either proved or disproved that that fight on air was real right and it was one of those big and it was mistakes as a kid yeah it turned out to be fake they touched on it in man in the moon because you see you know jerry luller and andy coffman uh talking about it and planning it yeah and
Starting point is 00:08:51 letterman's in that playing himself so playing himself yeah but i remember as a as a very young person when the original thing happened in like 84 83 whatever it was i remember going such a big deal is gonna rock the world forever and then it became like you know one of the first big myths of is it true did it really happen didn't it happen and this is of course a time where nobody was quite sure if wrestling was trying to be serious or not because you know remember they did a 2020 thing and one of the wrestlers punched the main news guy
Starting point is 00:09:24 I forgot his name. But there was a whole thing back then where everybody was like, oh, wrestling, it must be, we think it might be real. You're right, right. You know? They get that ruse up for such a long time to do a great job. Some of them still do. It's still real to me, man. Or still real to me, damn it.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Anyway, hey, we got a bunch of feedback to rip through today before we get to our news. And one starts here with this, a man's starts with this text. A man starts with this text. With this text. Oh my gosh, that guy.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I want to make him home-cooked bakery goods. I really do. Just to watch the joy on his face when he eats it. Man, talk about, can there, okay, the Golden Globes are already weird with their categories.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Can we have a perfectly stuck landing award for a TV show? Because my gosh. It feels like, it feels like an MTV. video awards or something like that it seems like
Starting point is 00:10:22 what of their dumb categories that they do for that one I used to hate that one anyway what's the MTV movie awards they still do those is that even a thing
Starting point is 00:10:29 I think so yeah and it's and it's deserving of your hate it's so my so dumb my connection my tenuous connection as it ever was
Starting point is 00:10:37 to MTV in general like my MTV consumption was like you know constant and never ending for about I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:48 Six years of my youth. And then I just cut it off. And that was it. I don't know what's happening. You went just cold turkey one day and said, yeah, I don't need this wubba, wab, wab, wab. Oh, I guess in the two, the aughts I sort of got into Jersey Shore because it was trash. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I guess I remember that. Yeah. Anyway. I will remind you of that next time you rip on me for like in reality competition shows. Oh, yeah, no, I fully admit I ate that trash. It was such trash, too. it's just garbage um all right moving on to this so paul or no sorry somebody wrote in he's not his name is not paul but it was on the subject of pauls and we were talking about famous pauls the other day
Starting point is 00:11:30 and logan paul and jake paul came up and it started the whole conversation right we said that they're the worst paul's and we came up with the list of some of the best paul yeah here's some of the best paul's he would like to add riser forgot about paul riser that's great yeah paul rudd of course i'm surprised we forgot about paul rudd right you got you you this is a little tiny man, a little tiny, little, little size of an ant. F. Tompkins, Paul F. Tompkins.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Uh-huh. Sure. Paul Shear. Paul BART. Polly Shore. Okay. Who's in the news right now because he's, I guess he did a... He's got the new Richard Simmons short film biopic.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They premiered it here at Sundance and everyone's freaking out about it. I kind of want to see it. I saw a clip of it and I can't tell how I'm supposed to feel about it. Is it... Well, like, okay, so do you know what the premise is, or do we know what it's supposed to be? No, no. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's like a, you know, a serious kind of like, I mean, how can it be serious with Pauly Shore, right?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Right. But the, from what I've seen, the clip was just of him doing exercise and doing and sounding very much like a cross between Pauly Shore and Richard Simmons. You cannot take the Polly Shore out of his his impersonation of Richard. Okay, so it's not like some transformative thing where he disappears into the character and you don't even know it's Polly Shore. No, no, okay. All right. I'm curious about it. Speaking of which, by the way, I got a friend in Park City who ran into Brad Pitt at a, oh, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:13:06 I forgot the name of these little convenience stores up there. Anyway, it may have been a Maverick. But this is when this happens. Anybody I know who is out that way or even lives downtown because I do a lot of screenings in. salt lake city downtown all the hollywood people are here and it's just lousy with them so he'd be walking down the street and it's like oh there's one of the hemsworths don't know which one but hey how's it's going it's always the weirdest time of year yeah anyway uh he also says uh newman's own salad dressing that's another another great paul i thought we said
Starting point is 00:13:38 paul newman but maybe we didn't i thought we did too but i thought for some reason i thought we were just doing people whose last name was paul right because we talked about less paul we talked about Mrs. Paul's fish sticks or something or uh Brian is correct that is what we were doing we didn't do we weren't looking at first name we didn't flip around and do first name Paul's yeah which is how which is why brought up McCartney oh yeah McCartney the least the least talented beetle I'm just kidding Paul Simon you know Paul Simon Simon yeah yeah like him he's pretty cool I saw a video the other day of um Garfunkel singing with his son that was weird His son looks like Kingpin
Starting point is 00:14:17 Really? Yeah I wonder if I could find this here real quick Garfunkel He struck me as very Let's see where is it And son We're going to burn this city
Starting point is 00:14:33 To the ground He looks like Who's the investor guy That's like his rich as Bill Gates Oh Oh help me You're not talking about Shark Tank dude, right? No, the one that's really old.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Oh, yeah. Chattel know this. He's a billionaire, but he's... Not Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett, that's it. It is Warren Buffett. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Simon, or Simon. Sorry. Simon Garfunkel, you know, the old guy... The family that succession, oh, we're not totally based on the Buffett's. Yeah, of course not. Here, I'm going to send you a picture of current Garfunkel, and you will see what I mean. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:14 current garfunkel look the younger garfunkel well yeah the current garfunkel oh you're sending me a picture of uh gotcha current art garfunkel this is art yeah and he looks like he looks like financier warren buffett to me oh no kidding that's wow like i'm not even kidding there right look at that like you could you could i could tell you that's warren buff and you go okay what's the story of yeah yeah yeah blew my mind you can tell me that's a that's a 60s musician and i and it would probably make me 30 guesses before I finally got to Art Garfunkel. It's like, I don't know art, but I know what I like, and that's not art. It's like when you see, who was the bassist for Nirvana?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Forget it. It's Kovacek, Kovalecichek or whatever's name was? Oh, yeah. Anyway, when you see him now, you're just like. Christ, or Christ. Christ, yeah. You see him now and you go, that's not him. Who's that?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. I don't know who that guy. He didn't like in finance or something. He didn't even do music after. The problem is he's wearing a financing outfit, too. like he needs to he needs a turtleneck yeah oh yeah well our garfunkel was all about the they're gonna bury him in a turtleneck like a bridge over troubled water exactly uh let's see let's do this one there's another one uh these are all texts by the way this came to us from a what what you can say no no no i'm just saying oh oh i thought you had a thing uh this is from someone i don't have a name for burner cards on apple pay so this is interesting it says it right in the first oh loop from boulder He always does this, Luke. You throw me off every time.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Most people sign at the end or not at all. He always tells me up front and I forget. Anyway, thank you, Luke for this. Luke from Boulder, Colorado Roden, says the Apple card, aka credit card, also allows for burner numbers to be created and used quite easily. No limits or additional fees that I have seen, plus the way you manage your card in the Apple wallet is very slick as well.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Take that Android team. So the reason this came up was we were talking about burner cards and that site. Like getting a number that you could use to buy something online without the worry of... Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm going to try it.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I'm going to try either this. I feel comfortable showing my credit card on camera because there are no numbers on it. Oh, also your camera washes it out real hard. Yeah, well, it's also like stark white too. It's just reflecting any light you have in the room. Oh, that's the nice one. I love a metal card, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I do, too. I do too. I like, you can't, I'm not a, I'm not a, let me show off. I certainly, certainly not one of those, typically. But when I use this card, I do like to drop it into the plastic tray. Yeah, it makes a sound you like. I like that. A little resounding, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Oh, that's the sound of money leaving my account. And I can tell you from recent experience, it's, the best kind of card to accidentally have washed in your wallet in your pants. Oh, yeah. Because everything else you have in there is like separating, getting frayed, getting washed out, or everybody's metal cards. It's all good. Chip still works. Everything's good. I did this just a
Starting point is 00:18:27 week ago and my driver's license made it. My metal Amazon business card made it and everything else is just a little weird now and soap corroded. But not the metal card. So take that.
Starting point is 00:18:42 everyone go get yourself a premium cool guy card we'll see if you can anymore that that uh relationship between apple and goldman sacks i don't know if it's the relationship but i read somewhere that the apple card might be going away or the the the tangible physical card might be going away oh yeah we talked about us in d tn s so i think the plan is if if goldman sacks gets out of the partnership and they may that may have a timer on it anyway i don't know then either so apple has two choices. They either work with another processor, probably not that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You just switch processors. Or, they have talked internally, according to Tom, when we were discussing this, said that they may do their own processing moving forward, become their own bank, basically. Oh, interesting, okay. Apple Bank, imagine that. Apple Bank, you know, great.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Better have an easy interface and car play compatible. That's right, exactly. Yeah, I don't want any trouble. Compatible with half of the money out there, though, unfortunately, so. And if I take out a small business loan, I better get an entire U-2 album forced onto my iPod. Well, you'll, when you open an account, there will already be a U-2 album in your account. Bono will be my clerk.
Starting point is 00:19:54 He'll help me with the paperwork. That'd be great. That's right. He'll come up to you and say, you gave me a bunch of 20s. You're taking them back. You're taking them back. Bloody Sunday. He's a pirate.
Starting point is 00:20:07 He's a pirate. Yeah. And then you go, Edge, we're out of forms. Form 52B. please get those up to the front of the bank please thank you i'm bono um all right then we got one about the uh the teemu stuff the teemu thing yeah uh tyler wrote this and said here uh tyler here from sprawling metropolis of minden nebraska population almost 3,000 oh i love a small town though i really do like it mm-hmm i may not want to live there permanently but i do like i like
Starting point is 00:20:36 that idea what you want is a place like that that is half an hour from a major city yes there you go so that you can have your you know general store and the the you know the diner but then it's like oh we need to go into the city i need to go to micro center half an hour away yeah 45 minutes or whatever perfectly said that's exactly how i'd want it um yeah but i don't know there's something about it where everybody knows everybody that that also has a horrible side to it but i just like i like the stereotype of a small town how about that i like yeah anyway uh this is for tms he says i've purchased a few things from Teamoo, and it's always been kind of bad.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It says I purchased some super cheap Lenovo earbuds that are uncomfortable AF and a baseball cap that broke the first day I wore it. I also got suckered into these. That's hard like a baseball cap that breaks. Yeah. The day you're wearing it, or your first day wearing it. Yeah. The Lenovo earbuds, I'm pretty sure I
Starting point is 00:21:36 bought a pair of these, in fact. Did you? I think I did. Is that what you did when you decide not to do the AirPods pros Air pods, no AirPods pro So I ended up Whoa, I ended up with the Ray, I really like the Raycons a lot
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's what it was, the Raycons Yeah, so those I ended up sticking with But they had these Lenovo's for like 12 bucks I'm like, well for 12 bucks I may as well just look And it wasn't through TEMU directly It was some other source, but it was the same earbuds I know the ones he's talking about And I thought I had them here and I don't
Starting point is 00:22:07 They're in a little clamshell somewhere anyway they are pretty bad they're not great and i and the thing is they're just well they just sound tinny they charge fine they last long but they don't sound great and they kind of are uncomfortable in your ears and it's a real i found it to be a real bummer as a as a Lenovo generally a Lenovo fan i like most of their products these these are just bad i don't know what happened there it's like they i don't know why they'd want their name associated with it's just there it's just not a not a skill set they have. It's like when Bo Jackson
Starting point is 00:22:43 went into baseball kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really annoying. He goes on to say I also purchased a super cheap super shady retro game kit that was pretty worthless. It was pretty much a fire stick with a cheap knockoff PlayStation controller. I wasn't expecting
Starting point is 00:22:58 it to work and no surprise it didn't. I got a ton of ROMs out of it though, so there's that. My problem could be that I bought the cheapest things I could find, but either way, I have not had much luck with Yeah, I mean, I don't know what, there are no real high ticket items on there, not really. It's all cheap stuff. And there's just that thing where, you know, sometimes when you try to save a buck, you end up replacing it with the thing that you were trying to avoid buying in the first place just later on.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like my next door neighbors are like, oh, you get that fancy ring doorbell brand. We're buying one that's on wish. something it's like half the price and guess they have now a ring norbell oh of course they do dude yeah of course they do although i like my wise my wise is pretty good oh yeah yeah well wise is a good uh it's a good alternative definitely good alternative yeah especially like if you do a little wise like infrastructure in your house um having everything like in one app for all that stuff is great it's good they got new like they can tell if it's a car a package or a person you know all this the basic feature oh oh goodness i just pulled off the um oh you got a little wise camera
Starting point is 00:24:12 oh it is a little wise camera i do somewhere else too yeah what did we what did we dump give us a description what are we looking at well this is the this is my laser uh laser ball that that's that goes right back up here on r2 okay it's okay though you can break it it's good i just broke oh no i don't even know where the other one is i just broke both arms off of my group magnet. Oh, no. Now he looks like the, what she called,
Starting point is 00:24:43 the flamidemid lady, the famous painting or sculpture. What's her name? Oh. You know the one where she's like kind of going, I was thinking of the Venus de Milo. Oh, maybe that is what I'm thinking of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I don't know, philomide. What? That's unfortunate. What's the, what's the, uh, what's the da Vinci drawing the, um, what's the man the, uh, the vitramite it's definitely not vitramite but what's the what's the armless guy he's not armless he's like extra arms because he's doing the versuvian man oh the one that we sent with vitruvian man
Starting point is 00:25:22 right the the the voyager thing painting that we sent yes the painting that went up in the voyager or the drawing that went up to voyager gotcha i think that aliens are going to be confused this thing uh glues back together really well this will actually be the second time i've glued it and it did not break at the place where I glued it back together. Well, that's a good sign. I just have to find his other arm. Like it completely... Uh-oh. Check the cat's litter. She doesn't have one.
Starting point is 00:25:46 She doesn't have one anywhere near my desk. Litter. That's funny, though. I break stuff all the time. This feels good to have it not be me for once. It's nice. Anyway. You can think you could just grow new arms.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I know, right? I got a theme for what you're about to say. Here. Get tickets now. All right. Brian got a gold. The Golden Ticket. What did you get? Yeah. And the idea of what I'm referring to, Scott? I don't, although, okay, let me suss this out. Golden Ticket implies some kind of... I got a golden ticket.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. Golden Ticket. Did you see, you were going to go see the new... Well, you already saw that movie. I already saw Wonka, and I highly recommend it. It's very good. Okay, let me think what else this would be. Golden Ticket.
Starting point is 00:26:29 King Midas is patrolling the highways of Colorado and gave you a ticket. How you figured it out. It's exactly right. No! I finally got an invite to the reopening, thanks to the fine folks from South Park, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the opening of Casa Bonita. Woo! Doodda da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da do do do that's amazing dude so when are you going?
Starting point is 00:26:56 This is the thing that you have to get on their mailing list and then they randomly draw names to allow people in there. And there's somebody said that one of the news articles said something like, 20,000 names or something on that list. So they finally drew mine. Oh, my gosh. So Tristan's birthday is a week from Thursday. And I said, you want to go for your birthday? And he's like, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Because he really, he loves the goofiness of that place as well. He agrees that the food, you know, before the, the south parkinging of it, the food was horrible. The soap apiece were great. The ambiance, the environment is fantastic. Yeah. So we're taking him for his birthday and we're going with Uncle George and Aunt Bear and and Tristan and Kay and me and Tina and we're going to suss this out. Here's what's interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You got to, you have to pre-buy. Like you pay one price and then when you get there, they have the whole menu and you choose. Every dish apparently is the same price. So whatever entree you choose. Okay. It comes with a soft drink and soap of pee is, but if you want to buy alcoholic drinks, those cost extra, you pay for those at the place. So I basically had to buy all six of our meals and taxes and Lakewood Improvement fee
Starting point is 00:28:17 and, you know, and a 15% something or other, like a gratuity or, yeah, whatever. Did you, anyway, when is this? Was this soon? A week from Thursday. Oh, excited. February 1st, we're going. And so, so unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:28:36 that means people are going to have to wait until February 5th, the next show day, to hear about the experience. But I'm hoping to have a lot of, a lot of stuff to talk about. Take some pictures and stuff, too, you know? I will. I'm going to try and take,
Starting point is 00:28:52 I mean, pictures are definitely cool there, and I'm hoping they allow video. We'll see. Burgess Diesel, or West, Weston, right in the chat room, went, he and the family went for lunch. Did they, did you, did they have any problems with you guys, uh, recording video? Yeah, I wonder about that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I'm curious about that or did they say you couldn't, they do, they do. I was thinking this is just such an incongruous thing. Like, yes, your meal will be, uh, about 50 bucks a person or 39 plus all these other fees and taxes. And please, no cosplay. So,
Starting point is 00:29:25 uh, where else, where else are you going to have that discrepancy? Like a meal that's over 40 bucks. And no, and a wording that, no cosplay. I don't even, I didn't even see that coming until you just said it. Like, what? I'm sorry, what? No cosplay. Do they mean like South, any kind of cosplay, I guess? I guess any kind of, yeah, I think they just don't want you dressing up as your favorite South Park character.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Oh, good. Wes says all good with video on picks. Okay, cool. All right. You got to load us up with all that then. Oh, going to do, going to do that for sure. That is your job. And here's a, here's a nice thing to end this conversation.
Starting point is 00:30:01 there you go perfect look at that that's uh it's like we're there was that uh the mariachi was that uh no bandaris it is bandaris but i think it's from zorro is where that came oh okay but you were in the same actor zone nice job yeah yeah uh all right interesting time for us to turn on the cable news channel and uh known as fnnn right the frogpants news network oh okay yeah it's going to be a great time here you go It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by... Chili with sweet potato in it. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That does sound good. Kim made this new recipe. Totally made it up on her own, or, you know, as she went, like she often does, but she made this amazing seven bean chili. Maybe it was five. Might be five. Like, so garbonzo and chickpea and, I don't know, amazing assortment of bean chili.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Real Angus B. in there and then a bunch of tomatoes diced up and stuff and then these little cubed sweet potatoes now i don't like sweet potatoes kind of hate them in most formats i don't like a sweet potato but in this little cubed up put it in the chili thing amazing so good can't recommend i mean that does sound great because the the sweetness kind of balancing out the the cumin and the um the saltiness of the the rest of the chili sounds fantastic but you uh so like sweet potato fries not a thing for you not really like i don't like them no if i'm given a choice i can't and i know they're better for me like there's all these benefits to it i just i don't like the
Starting point is 00:31:38 texture or something something in that but always so so probably well okay what about if it's like um thanksgiving you know the sweet potato with the marshmallow can't do those either can't really wow yeah my mom drives my mom crazy things every every year i know my mom makes the stuff that she's made every year since i was a kid and it's always the first i was a kid and it's always the family favorite everyone loves it except me just can't eat it but this stuff in the chili holy shiz it was so good
Starting point is 00:32:06 nice that sounds like that sounds like a great combo yeah I would highly recommend it next time you go to Kim's kitchen grab yourself a bowl Kim's kitchen I have some some hot powder what is that hot powder I have some
Starting point is 00:32:22 you have some hot powder some hot powder from that place yeah we usually do meth and stuff but around Christmas we're on Christmas we like to make some spices and switch it over to actual food yeah you know we're smart about when we when we you know we're trying to expand our capabilities hot powder um all right check this out this is uh cap and kipper submitted this story so credit where credit is due thanks captain kipper for this thanks cap a woman bought a vintage dress at an antique store it had a secret pocket with a very
Starting point is 00:32:50 mysterious note in it oh i like it yeah Victorian dress in the main antique mall unlike anything sarah rivers Cofield had ever seen before. She was taken aback, as the kid said. It said, Ford Theater, 8 p.m. Bring a gun. That would be awesome, wouldn't it? I mean, not for him, but for the rest of it. Yeah, balcony seat, 2A. Look for the guy with a stove pie pat.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It says, it's fitted bodice, its puffy bustle, and its lace cuffs reflected a bygone era. As a vintage costume collector, though, Rivers Coffield, that's a cool name, recognized it as a dress from the 1800s, 1880s, to be specific. But despite its age, it's delicate forgery.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It's just a rat in the cage. Exactly. Bronze, silk, and metallic buttons appeared intact, so it looked like it was a good one. She haggled the price down to $100 from $125 as she wondered where she'd store the two-piece garment. Price was high higher than she usually pays as an archaeologist who collects
Starting point is 00:33:52 antique costumes and purses for fun. An archaeologist. Come on now. Yeah, I know. I mean, this whole thing is way flowerier than CNN usually delivers. This is,
Starting point is 00:34:04 yeah, it's a little deeper than that. It's a little huff poe for you, CNN. Yep. Rivers Coffield had no idea that the dress she bought in December of 2013, though, would unravel a mystery a decade later. So here we are a decade later.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Inside a secret pocket tucked inside the bustle. So it's a bustle pocket. Okay. A bustle pocket. Gotcha. Okay. Hidden bustle pocket. We're two crumpled sheets of paper. and lists with seemingly random words in places.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So I'm going to read you what it said. Okay. The first little crumpled up piece said, Bismarck, comma, omit, comma, leafage, comma, bucks, comma bank. All right,
Starting point is 00:34:43 so Bismarck omit, leafage, buck, bank. You could probably leave out the commas on the next one too. Yeah, I'm not going to read them. I'm not going to read those. Comma space. Yeah, comma space, capitalize, C. comma, chameleon.
Starting point is 00:34:55 dot ha ha all right so how about this one fair enough whatever is one of my favorite moments of my life don't ever change Calgary Cuba Ungard confute duck and capital Fagan
Starting point is 00:35:14 so proper proper noun Fagan name yeah sounds like a name from great expectation oh Oliver oh right right I think that's correct notes on the margin the papers appear to depict time a tag stitched into the dress had a handwritten name it was Bennett now they say they're baffled and they want to figure out what's going on is it a secret code was it a secret message that was like dangerous to tell someone you know this sort of stuff I mean it feels like it I'm looking at the the article doesn't even do the the list justice um this one has like like like 10 lines of stuff on it including like
Starting point is 00:35:57 what's this one Oh yeah I can't read this A Sun Omega League New Forbade event Yeah Green Bay Knobby Pipeet Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:11 Calena anus Info we nail each Oh I'm sure it's anus I'm sure it's anus Might be onus Gotta be They did a bunch of researchers Canadian researcher crack the code
Starting point is 00:36:23 We'd like to hear what they found? Oh, yes. All right. So here you go. Let me pull it over here so I can see it. Okay, so then a Canadian researcher cracked the code. Wayne Chan, a researcher of the University of Manitoba and Canada, stumbled across the online code or the code online, somewhere in 2018.
Starting point is 00:36:41 He said he looked at 170 code books and none of them matched the message. I worked on it for months, but didn't get anywhere with it. I set it aside and didn't look at it again, says Chan. Let's skip ahead a little bit here. He said, he found and discovered, had a little bit of a breakthrough, that he discovered the messages were, in fact, a weather report. Oh. And they were not encrypted for secrecy, but because the code allowed forecasters to shorten detailed weather reports into fewer words, Chan said. In the era of the telegraph, such shorthand was cheaper than sending a big batch of words and temperature readings.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That makes sense. Shorten it up. Yeah, no kidding. Okay. So she was Victorian-era weather TV weather person, basically. We got a high-pressure front coming in from Bismarck-O-Mitt-Leafich Buckbank. Meanwhile, over here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 There's a great actually, oh, okay, it says here. For example, the line Bismarck omit-leafage Buckbank has surprisingly specific details. Bismarck meant it was recorded at Bismarck Station, which is now North Dakota. Omit means the air temperature was 56 degrees. I don't know how you get that, but whatever. And the barometric pressure was 0.08 inches of mercury. Leafage.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah, I know. Before we get too far from that, why not just do 56 with a little circle? Yeah. And, uh, yeah. 100% of what I would wonder. I don't know why this stuff's so weird. Well, those are the shore.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Okay. Shouldn't that be omit is longer than that. 56 little tiny circle done yeah you would save yourself a character and however much money that cost back then i don't know what people are paying what a penny per character i have no idea anyway buck indicated there was no precipitation while bank meant a windy velocity of 12 miles per hour and a clear sunset so obviously on the other side of this you would you would have to know the translation of the terms yeah exactly bank means a wind velocity of 12 miles per hour and a clear sunset. That's amazing
Starting point is 00:38:49 to me. Like what... Wild. Yeah, Dr. Calhoun says telegraphs charged by the word so they made a code to put as much info in per word. So but just, all right, so what if it's 15 miles per hour wind velocity and a cloudy
Starting point is 00:39:05 sunset? They have another word. It's like a chicken fart or something. So it doesn't sound like it's a per character. It sounds like it's a per word. So you could even theory do longer words to say more information that would only get charge once because it's just a single word. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:20 This is like, make up a word that is 56 degree parametric pressure of 8 inches of mercury. No, that's all one word. It's all one word. This is like 90s text plans, you know? That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Where everybody was trying to get around the limits because there were such hardcore limit. You didn't want to pay per text or whatever or per character or whatever they did. Anyway, he said he even got it down to the day. May 27th, 1888. was the exact day of this weather. Based on using that code, he was able to figure out the day.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I love this kind of crap. Yeah, no kidding. Take that cockney rhyming slang. I think we have a brand new, brand new code. Hell yeah, we do. Yeah. That was great.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Let's move on to this story. Terry from Chicago sent this one in. Thanks, Terry for this. I always use your stories if you guys submit them. If you put him in our discord. Terry Z, right? This is Terry Z? This is Terry Z.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah. Yeah, we see him all over the damn place. Totally do. Yeah. lots of great emails from him lots of comments feedback quick to comment on Twitter
Starting point is 00:40:22 all the places I refuse to call it X sorry that's just how it is Terry in Chicago says Florida man arrested for reportedly tossing a gator into a Wendy's this is pretty cool
Starting point is 00:40:34 Jupiter did we talk about this guy or do we just we've been in Jupiter before it just feels like we do it did because this is something that feels like Florida yeah it does by the way do you think in ancient Roman
Starting point is 00:40:46 times they said so for five we're going to use this v this v this v will now be five and then for ten we're going to use this symbol we'll call it twitter yeah no i think it's an x oh x i like that better yeah that's much better at two brutei et two uh i know why because jupiter florida i need to workshop that joke there is a there is a joke in there somewhere i don't know where there's just some shortcuts it's not there yet yeah but that's the whole point of open mic now you can come up here, work it out with the crowd, see what their responses are at the time. See, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So far, crowd, not so, not so good. No, kind of a tough crowd, to be honest. Jupiter is where we spent a lot of time there with weird stories. That's why this is familiar to me. But Jupiter, Florida, a man was arrested for throwing a live alligator into a Wendy's. I threw it through the drive-thru, by the way. Oh, that's pretty, that takes a little more talent. Yeah, 23-year-old Joshua James was,
Starting point is 00:41:42 Josh James, was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, illegal killing processing or capturing of an alligator and second-degree larceny pet at theft is the aggravated assault with a deadly weapon is the is the alligator the deadly weapon in this case yeah that's the alligator nice okay so he didn't also have a gun he just yeah wow it was a smallish gator too wasn't like a we're all imagining a huge swamp gator sure three and a half feet is is a is what they're saying the size of the gator was which which would fit through a window fix your frog Costi machine.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. Hoorah! Bring back the potato bar. Do you remember that? They had that whole thing. It loved that. It wasn't good, but I loved it. It really did.
Starting point is 00:42:30 They had pasta and like, what a weird thing when he did then. Dave was still, Dave Thomas was still alive. Yeah, that's right, the pasta thing. Yeah. That whole thing, that whole bar was like pasta stuff. They had.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah, pasta salad, potato toppings, regular salad. I think it was like a salad bar. Yeah. And chili. They had a lot of chili there. They can still get the chili. They still do.
Starting point is 00:42:52 The chili supposedly is made from the parts of the burgers that don't, that fall off the grill or that get broken up. Was there flipping them and stuff like that? Yeah. All the gross meat. That's what the rumor is. I don't know if that's totally true. Did we have, did we have someone call in on that? I don't know if somebody ever debunked that or if they bunked it for that matter.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I'm having memories, but I don't know if they're correct. It feels like, I know we've talked about it before. By the way, I-Corps says that the gator was dead. The gator was dead. Oh. The gator was dead. Well, it still hurt somebody. It feels like it's not as deadly a weapon if it's a dead alligator.
Starting point is 00:43:28 No, but they did go on. Well, the other charge was illegally killing, possessing, or capturing an alligator, which I think they did all three of those things then, if they killed it. Or I don't know where he found it. Maybe he found on the street. Or maybe the gator was destined to make some of that chili meat they're famous for it. that's right i don't know some old-fashioned gator meat hamburgers hell yeah that guy rolling in his grave uh let's see uh he was he's not released on bail as of monday afternoon uh let's see the incident
Starting point is 00:43:57 occurred in october but james has only been arrested recently by u.s marshals sir open the door us marshals we're here to get you for that windy's gator incident chris isaic let me in i'm a u.s. marshal let me in i'm here you're possessing a gator Deep cut. Katie Talmo says, didn't we play the Wendy's training video
Starting point is 00:44:17 singing about the meat that goes into the chili? Did we? I know we played the Wendy's training video which is just a gem. Oh, it's life is what it is. It's life.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Can we find that real quick? Let's see. Wendy's Training. Song? Was it a song? It was a rap. You put the meat onto the grill
Starting point is 00:44:37 and then you have to sit and chill. When it's time to flip, you got to use your spats. And there's no word that rhymes with spatula. Oh, here it is. Wendy's Grill Skills. Uh, here, let's play a bit. We'll just see what we get.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Eddie Van Hewling right there. Yeah, for sure. Okay, well, here comes Dave Thomas to say some words. Hi, I'm Wendy's founder, Dave Thomas. From the day I opened the first Wendy's, my goal has been to serve the best hamburger in the bend this so much so many missing letters in that whole sentence oh it's amazing i can't find the rap part it's in here
Starting point is 00:45:25 this is a longer video oh here we go okay this might be it patty squarely on the hill of that bun now there you go billy you give it a shot don't be afraid i think you're gonna be hot okay i love NWA's early work it's just fantastic i know they're gonna start somewhere Brian. Easy E right there. A little M&M on 8 Mile trying to make it work. Somewhere here they, is this it?
Starting point is 00:45:48 Maybe this is it. DOC before the accident. When the orders place, you're ready to go. Just drain the meat just like so. Then when all the drain is done, you can place a paddy squarely on the heel of the bun. Oh, my lord, I want to die. I can't play the rest of this. I can't play the rest of that.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's awful. Oh, it's so fantastic. It's so freaking bad. Well, anyway, thank you. for that reminder. Good luck to him. Let's move on to one final story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Jay Gordon sent this one in. It's all fan submitted. All submissions today. I love it. You know, you guys are part of the newsroom. You're part of what makes this work. This is my reminder to make sure I pull up the notes on today's in the middle. So thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Oh, yeah. Good, good time to be doing that. Good reminder, yes. Gee Gordon, Liddy, says, or sent us in. Okay. Ask your uncle, I guess. It's not that old. Suspects find automobile stolen during armed robbery, police say.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Now, that may not sound like much, but I'll explain. Officers say they arrested two of three men armed individuals who allegedly robbed a Colorado check caching service on Saturday. A lot of Colorado connections today. An armed robbery in Colorado turned to rye when the alleged perpetrators, or for the alleged perpetrators, when police say someone stole their getaway car in the middle of a heist. Oh, no. A lot of car theft going on in Colorado right now. Is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:47:14 This totally tracks, yeah. Oh, that's not good. I don't like that. Yeah, we're second in the nation for car thefts. So we were last year. I don't know if that's gotten better. Oh, my gosh, dude. I know.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I don't know what's going on. It's, uh... I feel like we had a moment like that. Oh, no, this year was, or last year it was porch piracy, put us like at the top for some reason for a while. Lots of that going on here. You need Mark Rover. You need some Mark Rover device. on people's porches.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I know. Ever since that guy said he was going to stop making videos, they've gone up. Right. I mean, they kind of have. But I was also reading, this is interesting, totally switched subject here, but I was reading about cancer rates in the States and what were the highest and lowest. And it was because Sarah, who's here from Mississippi for a few more days, she had said to me, because we're having a bunch of cancer stuff in the extended family. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And she goes, I go, man, I don't know what's going on. She goes, it's Utah. I'm telling you. Everybody moved to where we are. It's Utah. and I went, that's interesting. She's obviously kidding. She's lived here for 30 years.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I just barely moved. But let's go look at the stats. I just wanted to see the numbers. So I looked up the National Cancer Registry numbers. They have CDC data, all this stuff. And number one, with the lowest rates per capita, Utah. Shocked me. Guess who number two is right now, Brian?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Guess who number two is? Colorado. Oh, look at that. All right. And not by much. You guys are just barely. right there with us. Cool.
Starting point is 00:48:41 At the bottom of that list, and the bottom three, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi. So I'm not saying that she was completely backwards on her
Starting point is 00:48:51 exclamation about Utah, but she was exactly backwards. I'm kidding, though. She's fine about it. But I went deep on that. It was crazy. Like some of the stuff
Starting point is 00:49:01 in rural areas wasn't, it didn't come down to just, oh, there's a lot more smoking there or there's a lot more of these other risk factors. The risk factors were,
Starting point is 00:49:08 they don't get checked very often. They don't do preventative when they're out in the middle of nowhere. So they're not getting their colonoscopies. They're not getting their prostate checked and they're not getting mammograms. They're just hanging out in the barn doing good work.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And when people come up to them go, where's the last time we've been to a doctor, your answer's like, well, out on these here parts, we don't need much deal or no need for a doctor. Don't need no fancy doctorin. Yeah. It definitely had the vibe in that data.
Starting point is 00:49:38 from that but it was it was fun to look at anyway these uh luke sightwalker says massachusetts is number one for stolen cars so oh well then you're you're in that's who we're competing with right now i wonder why it's so high there that's weird i would think smaller more dense city as should east coast stuff would be worse because yeah i would think so too yeah just got a lot more cars maybe i don't know less spread out um boston yeah boston's just a hive of scum and villainy for sure I mean, I've seen... Just kidding, I love Boston. I actually do really like Boston.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I've seen the town. I know what's up. That's it for today's news. We're going to take a break. And when we come back from this break, we'll be joined by our old pal Dan Dan, Dan, the Tabletop, man. Yeah, that's right. It's Dan's turn.
Starting point is 00:50:24 He couldn't do it last month because of Christmas stuff, but he's back. Right. Dan is back. Back again. So that's all coming up in a moment. Before that, though, musical selection from Brian Ibbett Corporation. Yeah, we're going to go to the U.K.,
Starting point is 00:50:38 And all those people are saying, all right, thanks for playing the rock yesterday, Brian. But what about punk? What about punk rock? Can we get some punk? Like, yes, we can. How about today? We'll give you some punk. This is a brand new punk group called, or rising, I should say.
Starting point is 00:50:52 They've been out a little bit, but getting bigger. UK punk band called Pet Needs. Oh, wow. They are, let's see, their brand new album is called Intermittent Fast Living, which is great this is the brand new song that's called Sleep When I'm Dead Here are Pet Needs
Starting point is 00:51:13 It's a great I've been It's not a brag That you know I overplocs like you saw In your local weatherspoons I've heard you being bullied By the head of H.R
Starting point is 00:51:33 and you don't know who to complain to latest on Mavalin like pipe up a stream and sung in from the ceiling But you'll never lose If you refuse to choose to give their game meaning But you roll the tights again anyway I pray that today's a day against the hour I'll sleep when I'm dead dead today And oh when I am next in my bed
Starting point is 00:51:54 I hope that the latter comes first Shatter for good chants water on earth I'll sleep when day ahead Or when I'm next in there is it bad that I know to the second just how long it takes for me to get to bed from a boost at times it once in the middle of the night we're going sorry to the traffic and ran through mate I'm unraveling I'm sure I can do this again my head is pounding and I'm pound for a pound the worst I've been since the last time I said it was the worst I've been before but I roll the ties again anyway
Starting point is 00:52:28 I pray that today's a day I get better I'll sleep when I'm dead dead today and oh and I'm next in my beds I hope that the ladder comes first Shant of the coaches brought up on earth How deep when they're here you head Or when I'm next in there you head I'll sleep when I'm dead, dead to date Or when I am next to my bed I hope that the latter comes first
Starting point is 00:53:14 Shatterford could just more time on earth I'll sleep when I'm dead When I'm next to bed I'll sleep when I'm next to bed I'll sleep when I'm day Yeah Oh when I'm next to bed My name is Joe, and I work in a button factory.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I got a wife and a dog and a family. One day, my boss comes up to me. He says, hi, Joe. Are you busy? I says, no. He said, okay, turn the button with your right hand. I think she's the saddest girl to ever hold a martini. We're back.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Who was that again, that music? That was, well, that was Valerie Galino. I should, you should just ask me to start with. That is Pet Needs, the band, UK punk band, Pet Needs, the brand new song, Sleep When I'm Dead, coming from their fourth coming album, which comes out next month, February 16th, intermittent fast living.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Get intermittent fasting, but intermittent fast living. What? Yeah. That needs. I know people who live that lifestyle. That's right. Fast living. Was that Rain Man that Valerie Eulina talks about the saddest woman to ever hold a martini?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Oh, yes. You are correct. It's when she's trying to hook Raymond Babbitt up with a woman at the bar or something. Yep, you're absolutely correct. Go talk to her kind of thing. Yep. And then she went back to the hotel with Tom Cruise and got naked, I believe. And got naked.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah. Good, good recall on that one. That was fantastic. Thank you. Thank you very much. I had forgotten entirely. That could have been, what's her name? From Dust Teldon, getting ready to put her foot and what's the name's mouth.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I don't know. Yeah. Fill in his mouth with foot. That looks like the saddest woman to ever pour whiskey down her shoe into a man's face. Oh, I hate that. Oh, vanilla, is it a vanilla guy? It's not, uh, oh, right. She's talking about Cameron Diaz.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Oh, hold on. Because they're looking at her. It's not, it's not even, uh, Valerie Galino. It's Pell and L. Cruz. Here, let me play it. I think she's the saddest girl to ever hold a martini. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's Penelope Cruz. We've been doing film sac a long time. It's hard. Apparently so. Yeah, it's totally fine. Let's check him with Wendy's real quick to see how they're doing. Hold on. All right, Billy.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Okay, they're super stuck about the burger and the flipping. So now that we've done that, we'll check them with them later. Let's get Dan in here. All right? Because Geekjock Dan is ready to roll. to be here, to be our man in the street. And he has an intro and everything. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful. May he cause drowsiness. Oh, look who it is.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It's Dan, Dan, the Tabletop, man, joining us after a little bit of a hiatus, and it's really great to have him back. Hi, Dan. Greetings programs. Hey, man. Hey, man. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:56:26 You know, one of the things we like to do when you're on is, you know, we like to get to the board games and what's fun for the tabletop fans and all that stuff these days. but sometimes we get a little medical. Dan's in the field. He knows a lot about pharmaceuticals
Starting point is 00:56:37 and what's going on there. But I couldn't think of anything to ask you this time. So did you bring anything that's like, you know? So it's funny because I had actually wanted to talk about kind of like a lot of these manufacturer back orders and the way at the beginning of the year how like I work in prior authorizations now. I've been a pharmacist for almost 25 years, but now I've got like the dream job or I sit and do prior authorizations for Medicaid.
Starting point is 00:56:57 So I just want to tell anybody out there, if you have any issues with prioritizations at the beginning of the year or different things, changing tears and such, and you ever want to ask any questions, I can't guarantee I can give you an answer, but I could probably give you a little bit of guidance. So feel free to, to DM me on Discord or send me a message on Twitter. But your conversation earlier, kind of with the shorthand and everything, with, I guess it was what, the meteorology shorthand stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah. So as you may know, there's a lot of shorthand with pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And nowadays, it's a little different because almost all prescriptions are, you know, medical, There's a lot of medical shorthand, but almost all prescriptions now are kind of electronic. But in the old days, that when, like, I was working in retail, we would have to decipher some of the worst handwriting you have ever seen. So I thought it would be fun to you guys to look at it. And I pasted two easy ones into the chat. These are kind of easier ones. And then I'm going to show you, then I'm going to paste one that even stumped me, you know, reason why I know what it was because I had the answer. But the third one I'm going to give you is ridiculously hard.
Starting point is 00:58:00 and it gives you an idea of what so can you oh my gosh look at these dude all right let's talk about the first two i figured out just because of knowing drugs and such but can you figure out either one of those positive lung positive uh low me positive loamy pastelomi uh on uh on wheat uh three ounces all right let's see i'm going to say the first one is some let's see pastine along long long long and then something Unity or Cindy and then the other one Rusty
Starting point is 00:58:35 Rusty Welp loops Something like that I have no idea These are insane And the only reason why I put these two in here Because these are two drugs That you probably both have heard of before So the first one is Clareton 10
Starting point is 00:58:49 Milligrams What a day Yeah, the basis is daily Daily number 30 Okay Okay Wow And that first word is Claritin?
Starting point is 00:58:59 Jeez Yep that looks like planned that looks like that looks not like that word yeah exactly it looks like something positive 10 milligrams or something like that so yeah yeah i was speaking that that that was one letter and it's really too it's a cn and l but why is it up so high then geez yeah i mean i always thought the stereotype of doctors who can't write i just always thought that that was kind of overblown stereotype yeah just overblown and it's not usual but it sounds like it's like dead on sometimes and jerry has sent me a few of his prescriptions in years ago and his handwriting
Starting point is 00:59:34 is pristine i'll have you know my buddy jerry is absolutely pristine his handwriting yeah that's good to know so this second one is an antibiotic okay that may help it might let's see antibiotic um it looks like it begins with an r but that uh you know yeah it could be a d uh or a bad p uh Okay, I'm going to say 100 milligrams is my guess for the second part on that first line.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Oh, right, that's probably a number. I like you're thinking. What's that down? Rocky Duchamp is what that thing says. I got to give credit where credit is due. Mikey in the chat got it. It's doxycycling 100. What?
Starting point is 01:00:16 Okay. And it's twice a day. So BID twice a day. And that bottom actually says seven days. Oh, what? Okay. Now that you say that. I see it.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I can kind of see the seven that's got a dash through it. And I won't make you, you know, if you want to show that last one to the third one, I will make you, yeah, show the third on the chat. I won't make any, I won't waste any time on that one because there's no way in a world you're going to get that. What's up with the RX and like crappy comic sands, you know, the prescription thing up in the corner? Yeah, can we get rid of that?
Starting point is 01:00:48 I think that somebody did that in the 60s, so it's been there like forever. Jeez. It's such a, it seems so arbitrary, this thing, a slip of paper just because it has a an RX on it, you're supposed to take it seriously, and then they scribble the shit out, and people like you're supposed to make sense of it. So I see here, okay, give me the class of drug here on the third one. Well, so I'll give you class of drug, so you may not have heard his drug, but it's for opioid dependence. Okay. Okay. Let's see, is that an ass or F? Hopefully, I was going to say, look, or a J, maybe? What was that stuff that
Starting point is 01:01:24 Michael Keaton took in dopesick to feel better. Yeah, right. Or that was like a transitional thing. It's great because this is like medicine and a board game. You should come up with an actual tabletop game that is identified. I was deciphering. Yeah, exactly. That's not
Starting point is 01:01:40 bad. It's called Suboxone. Oh, it is that thing it is what he used in the show. Suboxone was the thing. Suboxone 8-2 which is really bad on there. And that last little bit is sublingual. And then the bottom just says number 16, one BID, and you use it twice a day.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Generally for that. Some people use it three or four times a day. But yes, that's Suboxone Sublingo. Unbelievable how bad some handwriting can be. Why? And then this is just, what do you think that you can attribute this to? So even if it's, you know, maybe it's not every doctor. Obviously, Tolbert does really nice writing.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But enough to do it. Is it that what it is? I mean, granted, it also depends on where you're writing. Because I have, you know, notoriously crappy handwriting. And everyone's always like, oh, all doctors have bad handwriting. Well, if I concentrate and I take, you know, a lot of times I'm riding with my elbow in the air. And, you know, if you sit there and you've got your hand on, like, I don't know why I've studied this with myself. Like, if I sit there and I have my arm on the table and I take my time and write things out, you can actually read it.
Starting point is 01:02:44 But if, you know, you're on a fly, you know, a lot of times you're holding a prescription pad in your hand. And then you're just writing things and ripping it off and hand it to somebody. In that case, it's not going to be good. I've known a lot of doctors in the past that had their nurses write them, and then they just signed them. Or the nurses kind of maybe wrote them and signed them. That's pretty much why nowadays we have almost everything is electronic. Even we're getting to almost every state now, like Schedule 2, narcotics are even electronic, but you have to have all these safeguards in place with like, you know, obviously security measures,
Starting point is 01:03:13 so nothing can be hacked and something like that. I'm not sure if New York still does the triplicate forums or if they've got something in effect where you can still do, you know, you can now still do it electronic. but it just saves time and money and energy. I mean, I won't get into, like, there are a lot of negatives to it, you know, as far as things in stock and crap like that. But anyway, it is so much better now that you can just get it all typed out because you really can't screw that up all that bad.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah, there's probably abbreviations and things that they can use that sometimes probably get things a little confusing. You could have told us this was written by a monkey on LSD and I believe you. That's how bad these are. Oh, boy. I've seen some, and you kind of get used to, and that's what's good about being in retail pharmacies, you'll have doctors that you'll just know what it is, you know, because you've seen their handwriting a thousand times a day, so you know what it is.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And then there's other times where you, you know, we used to have the bet phone to one of the offices nearest that I had a special number for one of the nurses that I'd be like, oh, Dr. S, he, I can't read his crap again. And she'll be like, oh, which one is it? And she'll know the patient. And she'll tell me exactly what it is because they probably just left the office or something. But, you know, you just have people that have notoriously bad ones, but it's funny how you can You know, even in, and actually, I'll be honest, poor hospital pharmacist, they have to read chart notes, you know, as far as, and a lot of times the scripts that come in charts, and sometimes they're IVs and you're like, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:04:32 So you're just hoping that, you know, sometimes the doctors won't even, they'll try to be it to go fast. So they won't enter it into the computer. They'll just fax over the little slip of paper and that's a disaster. Yeah, it sounds like a nightmare. Oh, right. Because that, yeah, you had faxing pixelation onto that and geez. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:48 And you're trying to, you know, when you're trying to mix something up with like. you know, which dillian when you're using or which, you know, carrier. You know, you're trying to find D5W or Norma Saline or half and half, and then you're trying to find out the, you know, how much vancomycin he used, stuff like that. It's just, it was a nightmare when I worked in a hospital. And I worked, you know, mostly overnight's in a hospital based where we would get faxes from a bunch of different hospitals.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And you're telling you, man, you would get some doctors that were just half asleep or just woke up from a nap or a lot of times. The best thing they could ever do is, like, you'd say, like, vancomycin, and per pharmacy. And then you're like, thank God, I could do this myself. You know, and then we'll be dosing it and stuff. Anyway, how about some more games? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Let's do that. The one thing we didn't get, we usually get sort of this yearly look at, like, best ofs for us or whatever, but we didn't have time. It was too crazy. All kinds of stuff going on, and we weren't able to do it. So my understanding is you brought a little bit of that today. So catch us up.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So I went ahead, and usually I like to do this in January anyway. So it's kind of perfect that we've done this, you know, that we were here in January. So I put together a top five list of Scott games and a top five list of Bryan games, all from last year and there's no overlap. However, there's one on Scott's list that I think, I think, Scott, I think Brian would really like your number one, Scott, so we'll get that in a minute.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Of course, we'll start with Scott. And there's going to be an honorable mention here, Scott, because we talked about this game a lot, and a lot of people have been mentioning it to you on Twitter. So I think it was almost a cheat, because I just want to talk about more games. So I'm going to tell you that Thunder Road Vendetta, obviously, would probably be one of the number one games for you.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Sure. It's just a great kind of dice chucking. And you don't need any expansions. expansion is just make it more complex and we don't need any of that for scott we just need it to just make a nice quick it's basically just a racing game with with shooty shooty fighty fighty and it kind uh in in in just frenetic form so great game let let the let the persisting rumor that i only like simple games continue everyone let us all go down that path together well actually and i'm going to throw a little more i think you've said that if it's a book if it's an instruction manual
Starting point is 01:06:45 that's thicker than your thumbnail oh yeah no i don't like rule books i like i like i like i like I like playing games with complex systems, be they video games or tabletop games. I just don't want to be the guy that has to read that shit. Just play and show me. So all of these games, the exception of Bryan games, we're going to assume somebody has read the rules and is teaching it to Scott. Okay. He's watching it on, yeah, he's watching it from that guy with the smiley face that tells you how to play the game. That's right.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Either Rodney Smith or John gets games or any of those guys. So number five, number five for you, Scott is kind of a re-implementation, kind of like chains. things up a little bit, but it's a great thematic game, and it's called Santa's Workshop. Now, it's going to be a little bit, and I'll put in the chat later after we're done, Scott and Brian, I'll throw links to every one of these games, so if you want to throw them to show
Starting point is 01:07:33 notes, we can. But number five, going to be Santa's Workshop. This is from Elf Creek Games and a great designer, Keith Ferguson. They've kind of upgraded, updated the game a little bit, because there was some part of the boards that weren't really being used in the past, so they kind of fixed kind of the reindeer. It's a simple worker placement where you're just going places,
Starting point is 01:07:49 getting resources, and then turning them in to create gifts for kids. Scott, you'd love this one because it's, it is a little thinking. I use the word thinking in quotes here because it's not really thinking, but it does have some strategy to it. So I think you'd really dig that. I know how you kind of, you know, like you said, Scott, you have a brain. You like to use it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah, I sure do. Yeah, big fan of the brain. And the art is excellent. Wait, can I ask you a question about this? Is this a thing that because it's very, obviously it's very Santa themed, are you going to be able to play this rest of the year and feel okay about it? Is this like a, you know, holiday-only kind of game you want to pull out? I mean, you can really play this any time of year because, I mean, even though it's a Santa theme, when you break it down to it, you're just getting resources and turning it in for, you know, stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Plus, those elves are making toys year-round anyway. That's a good point. There's no Christmas to them. Christmas never ends. Sure. And what I really would recommend is playing it in like October, because then it reminds you to start buying presents early so you're not stuck in December 20th. That's a good idea. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It's funny. The board reminds me of clue with all the different rooms in the hallways that get to them. exactly it sure does yep uh all right it's number four very very easy scott you could even read the rules it's one page this is called nomalia uh and it's kind of like a take on animal n i am a l iaaa nomalia this is from uh lucky duck games basically all you're doing you're going to draft you have a hand of three cards and there is basically two by two there's different pictures in it you're going to draft a you're going to draft a card and you're going to put it in your tableau in front of you and basically your tableau can't get bigger than six by six but the catch is you always
Starting point is 01:09:20 have to put it over at least one other square. There's going to be different ways of scoring each round. There's going to be five rounds. Each round you'll be scoring either two or three of the different pre-sorted scoring things. Very, very easy. Really cool because everybody loves drafting. It has that seven-winers drafting thing where you'll start off with three cards. You'll draft one. Send it to the left or right, depending on a round. And then they have two cards. They draft one. And then you get the last one. So you'll always have to use at least one card every turn. So like a card version of Sagrada kind of with the
Starting point is 01:09:49 required placement of the cards. You know, you can only play the card here kind of thing. Well, no, the only difference is it is kind of has that sagrata feel a little bit to it, but the difference is there's no, there's no placement regular, you know, you can place Oh, really? Oh, okay. I'm looking at...
Starting point is 01:10:05 Gotcha. No, the only rule is it has to be, you know, it can't be more than, I'm pretty sure it's either six, I think it's six by six. All it can be is you can't go beyond six by six, and it has to be covering at least one. And you can actually cover a whole four, you know, two by two, of the one you just played, but it has to cover
Starting point is 01:10:21 at least one square, which is good. I mean, you're going to look at the different scoring. Like, some scorings may be like, oh, you need to have a panda next to a water space, and that'll get you five points. But not every scoring thing will score every round. Right. Gotcha. Interesting. Okay, that looks cool. I like the art
Starting point is 01:10:37 on that a lot, by the way. Yeah. Oh, yeah, the art is very, very nice. Number three is pretty easy, and you've probably seen it everywhere, but to be honest, I really think you dig it's got, and it's Disney Lorcanna. It's a CCG that came out last year. is surprisingly really easy to learn. You don't even really
Starting point is 01:10:53 need to buy a bunch of packs. Just buy two star decks and play. It's great because you have Disney characters. The game's easy to play. It's not even really very there is kind of quote unquote like attacking you know you're basically challenging another character but it doesn't have a lot of the fighty that you would hear you know in magic or even
Starting point is 01:11:09 Pokemon and stuff with that. So they kind of hide some of that in there and you're going on questions you're just getting points, you're racing to 20 points that's really easy. Is it a kind of game you buy booster packs for that kind of stuff? yeah you well you can yeah absolutely yeah they sell tons of booster packs the second set is out now but they have the the kind of the pre-made starter decks which would be an easy way for you to get into it again the rules are not i mean you could watch probably a 10 minute video on this and learn the rules
Starting point is 01:11:34 in no time are there is there are other lorcanna games and this is just a disnified version of the game or something or is this no i mean it's it's very i don't know i'm trying to think of the ccg that it would be the same as i mean it does have a lot of roots and kind of the magic roots to it. Yeah, it looks magic-y to me when I look at it. Yeah, it's almost everything nowadays has got its roots in either magic or Pokemon or some of the earlier CCGs. So it definitely has some roots in magic and it'll, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:01 and if you know those rules, it'll pick it up even easier. Pretty sure I saw this at a target, I think. I didn't think much about it. If you saw it on the target, you got lucky because, man, my God, do the collectors get in on there? And they just pound the targets and the Walmarts and grab it. Because it's still, I mean, especially early on, it was impossible to find. But now it's still getting a little bit more out there, but it's still crazy collectibles.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Disney, Disney collectibles are unlike any other thing in the world. It's unbelievable. And games just become even more. Because the problem with a Disney themed game is not only do you get the gamers that want to collectibles, is now you're bringing in the Disney collectible people that want to collectibles. So it's even harder to get. They may not even play the game. They just like the cards and, you know, want to buy and sell and make some money on it.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Yeah, there's only two in stock on Amazon. Amazon and they are 72 bucks. They seem like they're just kind of hard to get. Yeah. Oh, they are. It's insane. Weird. And like said, it has been better at the FLGS is out there. So definitely check that one out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Number two, Imperial Miners. This is Imperial Miners from Portal Games. This is kind of set in that Empires of the North, Imperial Settlers Universe. It's a real simple game. You basically have a hand of cards and you're kind of placing your cards in either, you know, depending on the row that you're placing them. You're starting at the top and you're digging down like miners into the mine. And I think I went over this one a few months ago
Starting point is 01:13:20 But this was one of my games of the year And depending on the cards you play So you know when you buy them You then have to get out of the mine And as you go up the rose You're going to be triggering effects Very very easy to play Very cool cool game
Starting point is 01:13:32 And again it's very simple to learn And it'll take you two seconds to learn this game And it plays in about an hour One to five players It's a great family game It I do remember this one Because I remember these cool Mineral pieces
Starting point is 01:13:45 Oh the gems yeah I don't know who It was funny We had a discussion on the last gig all-stars because all these games now use that same that same kind of mold and I think they're called like their technical turn is taint, which is very funny. I think their technical term is taint for them. But whoever came up with the file or the first, you know, the first makeup of that first brick or, you know, or gem, it probably made a fortune on since everybody uses that now.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah. That same same show. Yeah, that's cool. All right. So that is a good one. So the game of the year for you, Scott, that I think you would absolutely love, and it's two-player game, and you would probably, you and Kim, anybody, two players, you'd love it. The Star Wars deck building game is awesome. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:14:32 There's a couple of, like, there's an older one that was called Star Wars, the, you know, the deck building game, too, but there's the one that's from 2023. There's the one from 2023 is Star Wars the deck building game. It's really fun, Scott. It's basically one box. You don't have to collectible. It's nothing real collectible about it. I like that. shuffle up and go.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And you know how to play deck building games. Oh, yeah. We talked about this one. Oh, this is fantasy flight, isn't it? That's the one. Oh, yeah. And it's pretty cheap. I think it's only like 30 bucks out there.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Man, it's so good. And thematic, and one person plays the Empire, one person plays the rebels. And then depending on cards that come out in middle row, you can kind of defeat cards, or if they're the other faction, you can defeat them for, you know, a reward. Or you can get them into your hands,
Starting point is 01:15:14 you know, to put them into your deck if you are the right faction. Just, and it's pretty quick. and easy. Yeah, you're right. 30 bucks everywhere. Perfect reviews on Amazon. People love this. Well, I may have to grab this. That seems like a fun game. That looks great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 That's the age 12 and up, 30 minute game. Yeah, I remember that's right. I remember looking at this art because somebody made lightsaber cookies and blue milk on board game geek and photograph the cards with the Oh, that's cool. With the blue milk. Nice. Aunt Veroos finest. That's great.
Starting point is 01:15:46 All right, so Brian, here we go for number five for you. Okay, laid on me. So I'm not sure. This was a hard one because I wasn't sure if you were an unmatched guy, because I know the unmatched system's been around for a while, and it's a one-on-one kind of fighting system. It's a lot of fun. I am not.
Starting point is 01:16:01 But they put out last year is unmatched Adventures, Tales to a Maze, which makes unmatched co-op. And it's really, really fun. It comes with some players. If you play, if anybody out there that plays unmatched and you have other characters from other sets, you can use them in this one. So you play co-op against the game itself.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You have either the moth man, I think it's the moth man, or aliens that you are feeding against. I love these pieces. Oh, they're so cool. That little spaceship with the tractor beam. And it looks every bit that good, too. And you know, and you don't have to paint them, but if you like to paint them, you could probably put a little coat on there because they kind of come just fine by themselves. But there's some, it's so much fun. This game is great.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And it has a good difficulty level, too. it's not necessarily like the easiest game in a world which is kind of good for co-ops but but yeah it's really good and it scales very very well this looks great wow yeah i like the little dudes the little figure dudes yeah i've never played an unmatched uh game but uh oh really oh i think you love them too is the one-on-one feel and a strategic it's also uh it's also on steam so you could buy it on steam and get a tutorial uh and you can also play against the ai which is really good Unmatched Steam. I've never even heard of this.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Let's see. Yep, there it is. And it is currently available and slowly coming up for 1999. That's a pretty good price. That is. Oh, yeah. Some of the unmatched different sets. There's a bunch of different sets for unmatched.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Unmatched Adventures is probably about 40 to 45 because it's a bigger, bigger box to it. Yeah. Yeah. So number four for you, Brian. I like the theme. Now, I will preface this theme is I'm well aware of the evils of the circus. but this is the game. Sure.
Starting point is 01:17:43 It's the game. We're just going with that. So I apologize to everybody out there. No elephants were harmed in the making of this game. Exactly. This is from DeVir games. And it's called Three Rings Circus. Now, I'm a huge solo gamer.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So I will preface this by saying the solo version in this game is a mess. And don't get this if you're just going to play it solo. However, I know Brian doesn't play a lot of games solo. So I know you would like this in the two, three, three, or four player game. It's a very cool game with a very cool system. You're basically bringing your circus. around the country, trying to have different, you know, obviously putting on events, different circus events,
Starting point is 01:18:16 at the different countries and such. And the card play is really cool, because as you're kind of getting cards, which are basically performers in your circus, you're putting them in certain places, and they always have to go in ascending order, and basically you're kind of running your row of cards. Very, very fun.
Starting point is 01:18:32 It's very cool. Again, honestly, Scott, I think you'd love this one too because it's not really all that difficult to play. It just has a little bit longer of a little book. And again, it has some really cool choices, which I think you would love, too. I love the art. I'll say that. The art is gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And the pieces are cool. These little ring circus pieces are rad. The little Barman Bailey little train thing is cool. I love this look. This feels like a game you'd be able to get somebody into if they like ticket to ride, even though the gameplay is obviously different. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:04 This is definitely a next step. Yeah. Next step from ticket to ride. I like this. This is cool. This is very cool. All right. Yeah, I don't take it to rise.
Starting point is 01:19:12 It's one of my favorites. What's funny is, so when you click on, like, the different pictures and you see those big top pieces, they look like they're huge. They're not big at all. Because this is a company that's known for kind of putting a lot of game into small boxes. So those pieces are kind of pretty small. And you can probably tell just by looking at some of the kind of the wooden pieces that they're not big. Like penny-sized or, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Right around penny or nickel-sized pieces. But they're great. Absolutely a absolutely fun game. Number two. Um, no, I'm sorry, this is number three we're up to now. And I'll, I'll speed up. I apologize for, for going to, you're doing, doing great. You're hauling ass, man.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Although I got to get a, I got to get like a full list when you're done so we can, I can put it in the show notes or something. But, yeah, absolutely. We've got it. We've got them in our, in our Discord chat. Oh, okay, good. Good, good, good, good. So, and, and Brian, I'm going to go out on a whim because, again, I know you like some of the more conferences, but this has, this is Stefan Feld, which is one of my favorite designers, he's known for kind of the heavier euros. And they always have, like, really cool things that you're doing.
Starting point is 01:20:09 This game is called Marrakesh. This is from Queen Games. It's just kind of now coming over. It's kind of the later in the year, kind of like mid of the year. It's still harder to find, but it's a great game. This might be my game of the year myself personally.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Oh, wow. It's so much fun. It has this cube tower. Now, there used to be games like Shogun, and there's another game that Feld put out called Amerigo. Now, the cool thing about this cube tower, and you're not putting cubes in there.
Starting point is 01:20:32 You put these little kind of columns in there. Like hexagons or something, yeah. Exactly. There are kind of these weird cylinders. so you're basically taking some of those we're playing four players everybody's picking three of their own and every round you're going to get 12 one of every color you're going to pick
Starting point is 01:20:47 three of your own that are going to go into the tower so you'll get somebody's going to take all 12 and they're going to drop them into the tower now the way the tower is made is it's made so that not all of them will come out now sometimes all of them will come out but it's designed to try and make so it's a little bit more random where some of them will stay
Starting point is 01:21:03 in there maybe other rounds you'll have more than a 12 and sometimes you may only get like 10 Now, they've made like a better insert to it that you can get, you can either print out or you can get in one of the expansions or you can buy it. Because their initial one, not a lot of things were getting caught in there, so they made them with kind of like bigger pieces. Sure. But it's so much fun. Depending on what comes out, you'll see at the bottom of the tower, you'll kind of group up all the colors. And then you're going to go in player order and you're going to draft from the colors.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You can draft no more than two of the same color on your turn, and then those will go onto your board. They're called Keshees. So you're going to put them onto your board, and that's going to determine the strength of the action that you will do. And at the beginning of the round, you've determined you've done something different where you've taken your three dudes, basically the three dudes that you, the colors that you put in your hand to give to the person, those are the three actions you're going to take. So you may draft Keshees that are not the same color of the actions you're doing, just trying to bump up actions later and around to make them a little bit more powerful later and around.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Wow. Okay. Yeah, totally. I'm seeing the visuals on this, like, okay, I totally get. which you're describing but man the um and i see like the uh the punch out pieces for that dice tower like it's almost like you're going through a cheese grater like which things are going to get stuck behind oh that's hilarious okay and there's like um i want to say there's 10 well i think there's basically like because one of them has the three of the same three different colors for actions so
Starting point is 01:22:26 there's like nine different actions i'm not going to get into the actions now but just know that each action is almost like um like games like this are each action is almost like a little mini game because you're going up on a track and each track will depending on you know what you're you're collecting, how many of the caches you have in that color, then there's other resources you're going to get, and then there's kind of scoring. It's so much fun. I mean, it's a longer game.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You're going to play with teaching. You're probably going to be about two and a half hours for your first game. But games like this, where the journey is so much fun, you don't even know it's two hours. You know what I'm saying? When you're just playing a game like this, it's amazing. All right. That sounds pretty good.
Starting point is 01:23:00 That was that number one? I think it was. That was number three. Well, that was my number one for last year, but that was my number three for Brian. Oh, got you. Okay. I heard you say number one, and I got confused, but go ahead.
Starting point is 01:23:10 So my number two for Brian, now this is another very long game. This is kind of one of these afternoon games that you want to sit down for one to five players. And five players makes it very, very cool because there's stuff going on everywhere. We all love the wister. Of course, I call it kryptonite for Tina. Yeah. Oh, no, that would mean that she like, that she, that she's powerless against it. Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Immediate no from Tina, I guess is the... Your ghost Lathromos movie for Tina. Right, exactly. There you go. Nailed it. So this is the Witcher Old... I'm sorry, the Witcher Old World. This is a big sprawling kind of...
Starting point is 01:23:49 We call it like an Ameritrash game. Just because it's very story-driven. It's not a lot of Euro elements. Scott, actually, except of the fact, I don't know if you can sit down for three hours. Would you ever sit down for three hours to play a game, Scott? Yeah. Oh, I've done that all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Okay. I'm D&D, that kind of stuff. Sure. this might be up your hour because basically what you're doing is you're kind of using your cards to kind of chain together different symbols and such
Starting point is 01:24:10 and that's how you're defeating either different challenges or different monsters you're going around aboard you know in very witcher fashion you're defeating you know different types and different levels of monsters out there
Starting point is 01:24:20 just trying to get victory points you only need a few victory points to get the game but you're kind of adding cards to your hand every round so another deck builder you know centric game but it's got a really cool story to it
Starting point is 01:24:31 you can attack each other but there's diminishing returns. You're really only going to get something for beating somebody once. So it's not like somebody's going to just follow you and beat you up, beat you up the whole time. But there is a little bit of incentive to do it because you can get some victory points for it. But it's the production value in this game
Starting point is 01:24:46 is ridiculous. How much pieces look gorgeous, yeah. Oh my God, they're amazing. Yeah, look at the coins, dude. Those are, that's not cardboard shit. That looks like a little resin coin. You know what those coins to the Witcher, I'm assuming? Yeah, you have to throw that to the Witcher. And I think there may be, there may be
Starting point is 01:25:01 different versions of the game where there may be like cardboard version and a coin version. I've only played with the very pimped out version. One of my buddies had everything, so I don't know if there's, you know, how lower of the versions they have out there. Yeah. This is awesome. Look at these Kickstarter exclusive.
Starting point is 01:25:15 They all kinds of models and that horse on the roof. There's no, it looks like this is not, uh, what's his name? This isn't, um, I can't think he was name. The Witcher, uh, the, the normal witcher. This is like a whole other sort of sub-story, uh, with different, oh, no, you can play as, um, Geralt. Gerald, that's his name. girl. You can be girl, really?
Starting point is 01:25:35 Okay. Yep, one of the characters that you can play is actually girl. Oh. Everybody plays a different character. And I'm pretty sure you have different stats. I'm trying to remember. It's been so, it's been like six months since I played it, but everybody's kind of got, you have different stats and different, you know, there's three different things you can do. You know, you're actually using potions
Starting point is 01:25:49 in the game. Man, it's just a lot of fun. You know, just, just chill fun where you're, you know, again, this story kind of develops as you're playing. So you almost feel like you're playing a movie out or a game, you know, obviously like a book out. Sure.
Starting point is 01:26:03 probably the better way to stay. Sure, sure. That looks awesome. All right, so we'll finish up with the number one for you, Brian. Now, what's really cool about this game is I know you got a lot of minis, and I know you love to paint them. So this game has standees, so you can use your own minis in this game. I'll use my own minis for this.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Yes, this is called Marvel Dagger. This is kind of, again, this is a fantasy flight again, but this is kind of like a re-implementation or kind of an updating of an older game that's, you know, not that old, but it's kind of like Eldridge Horror, where there's good story evolving, a good mix of difficulty and actually again Brian I know you may not be much of a
Starting point is 01:26:38 solo player but this is a very easy game solo you basically just use two of the heroes that's what I've heard yeah yeah I actually I picked this up thanks to you recommending it or I think I asked about it in our chat and said hey I just got notification from Amazon that this is down to
Starting point is 01:26:55 40 bucks or something down from 60 or 70 or whatever it is normally and so I was like oh I think I got to pick this up. So I do have it, and I was wondering about the solo play. That's great. Is Dagger a organization I'm just not familiar with in Marvel? No, it's, this is not, at least it's not a group that I'm familiar with in the comics, Dagger, but. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And they're sore and shield. Defense Alliance for Global and Galactic Emergency Response. Bacronym. A backronym. My favorites are backer. But what's cool about this, too, Brian, is that you basically, each, each, person is basically having, you get a character, and then you also get kind of like a, you know, almost like a faction, you know, I guess it's, you know, you can have like leadership or, yeah, trait, there you go, leadership or justice or things like that. I think they call them aspects is what they call them. But they're not to game since, again, it's not too easy, but not too hard, but you're probably going to get defeated once. And each character has another character on the other side. So what's cool is you could probably use a bunch more miniatures because maybe you're using it. That's right. You know, you Bring out Hulk and She-Hulk.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Exactly. Right. So you either use Sam Captain America or you'll use regular Captain America. Steve Rogers, Captain America. Yes. I love this. I think it's such a great concept is like, oh, we're defeated. Don't worry, games are not over.
Starting point is 01:28:18 You're playing as this alternate version of the character or this other character of the same name. Yep. And you get a little bit more powerful, too, once one gets defeated. But if you ever lose a second character, if one person loses a second character, then you lose. But generally, I mean, you could, you know, depending on which one you're, you know, which one you're playing. It's not, I want to say it's not all that hard, but it's not hard to actually win. I mean, it's not, it's not possible to win. You know what I'm saying? So it's, it's, it gives it a good difficulty. And I'll be honest, it looks like a lot, Brian, but once you
Starting point is 01:28:45 kind of get it set up and then once you go through, you're like, oh, this kind of flows exactly how it feels because you're basically just doing a certain amount of actions. And then depending on the actions, then it's going to, you know, at the end of the round, you have some cleanup and some other stuff that are going on. That makes sense. And the, yeah, the actions thing, it's like, oh my God, there's so many different little. tiles in this thing that initially was very intimidating. I haven't played this yet, but it was initially very intimidating looking at this thing, it's like, you've got this little tile with the gold thing and the
Starting point is 01:29:11 symbol on, then this purple thing with this other symbol on it, then this red thing with a different symbol on it. But yeah, it looks like once you figure all that out and figure out, all right, well, this just goes on that card to show that you've completed that sub-challenge or this mini-boss and that sort of thing. I like to call it, I like to refer to it as once you speak the language of a game, games like this becomes simple and you know exactly what you're looking at
Starting point is 01:29:35 and that's a big thing for Euros because Euros are very symbol-centric you know what I mean? Like there's just symbols everywhere in Euro-type games and games like this too like you said there's just symbols that look around for everything
Starting point is 01:29:47 but you're like oh well that's just the different types of aspects that's all that symbol is then here's you know you're powering up you're powering up in action or you're taking damage so and then you're kind of as you're moving throughout the world
Starting point is 01:29:59 you can actually trigger other abilities and other actions And then you're just basically doing quests. You know, as you're fulfilling different quests, then you're going to get some success on a certain track to kind of get rid of the overarching quest or the villains. You know, the villains is filling up his track of quest, you know, quest points. Then you're trying to get rid of that quest before he does, which is, it's just really cool. Sounds awesome. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:30:24 A little bit of Marvel for Brian. A little bit of Star Wars for me. The nerds win. Once again, the nerds win. Nerds rule. Dan, tell people where they're, they can follow you and find more cool stuff on your podcast and whatnot? You can check out the Geek All-Stars podcast where I do my normal show.
Starting point is 01:30:40 We like to call it just a show about nothing. But we do like to talk about board games, car games, movie TV, movies TV, a little bit of everything. And next month will be our kind of our geek all stars top 11. We just put a show out where we do go into a deep dive into Marrakesh. We do talk about kind of what we've been watching over the last month. You can also find the Munchkin Land on Major Spoilers Network. I do Munchkin Land, which I do The Munchkin Minute, which is basically. just a new show where I talk about
Starting point is 01:31:04 Kickstarter that are out and I also talk about basically game releases that are coming up and that's usually about a nice short form 10 to 20 minute news show on Schleckers Network Major Spoilers. Yeah, go check that out, major spoilers.com for details there. Dan, Dan, the Tabletop, man. Go enjoy more doctor horribly written doctor notes
Starting point is 01:31:22 and we'll see you next time, man. I was good to see you. All right, we'll see you. Take care. Bye now. We'll see you. Bye, Nan. Awesome. well they ordered to one the uh the star wars did you the star was one cool it looks good looks like something i'd enjoy uh okay well that's out of the way and uh and for all of you uh those those all those links will be on
Starting point is 01:31:45 quicktms dot l i after the show today i'll put all those up there i may not do fancy graphics or anything but i'll put them all up there awesome here is a cool story regarding disney sidekick sent to us by a listener oh cool uh you guys mentioned gaston briefly during the sidekick segment the other day. And it reminded me, I think that was our, it was half-asses, right? It was a feud. It was a feud. It was a, it was a favorite Disney sidekick. It says, it reminded me of one of my favorite little anecdotes. I dated a girl for a few years whose uncle was a background artist back in the day for some pretty prominent Disney classics, beauty and the beast were among them. He was a pretty good looking guy and they actually
Starting point is 01:32:23 decided to base the look of Gaston on him. What I love about it, though, is this character who's supposed to be the most misogynistic, brutish dolt of masculinity is actually based on a very sweet, very effeminate gay artist. His name was Greg Drollette, and by all accounts, he was a really cool dude. Bummed I never got to meet him as he fell victim to the AIDS epidemic that hit the LGBT community back then, but I did get to see a lot of really cool concept art books of his, all signed by the Disney artist he worked with. That's cool, man.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I would love to see those books. That's awesome. no kidding and and looked up a photo of this guy and yeah you see him he's like oh yeah okay there's gaston right there yeah that's great i love it gregg drolet right is that hey it's that red drolet yeah or drawlet you all can google that dude and see what's up there yeah oh yeah oh my gosh look at that yeah got the chin yep that's amazing oh he did a ton of stuff yeah not a lot of photos of the guy but a lot of photos of his work and the things that that he worked on yeah he's he was busy look let's see animation department director for hercules aladdin atlantis a lost empire
Starting point is 01:33:35 a little mermaid last thing he did was background art for the simpsons movie in oh seven it's like he passed away in oh seven never got to use smartphones that's a bummer um i always think of that that is that's the year that year is the dividing line yeah good play Big, big changes from that. Thank you for that. If you guys like to send in your own messages, everything we got today was from the text line, 801471.462, or you can email us the morning stream at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Whatever format you prefer is fine, and you can send us voicemails as well. That's going to do it for today's show. Go to frogpans.com slash TMS for links to everything, including the quicktms.lis stuff, including all the things that you can sign up for or register for or whatever. Oh, quick point of clarification. We had somebody in the Discord asking how, Brian,
Starting point is 01:34:25 the half-asses question submission stuff works. Oh, sure. I don't think we have a specific link. Usually just go ask stuff, right? Or how does it work normally? Well, I have a game that I pull those from. Those typically don't come from listeners. But if you want to submit one, then coverville at gmail.com is the way to submit one of those questions.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Okay. So just know that. But, you know, I'm not going to do any fact checking on it. So please do your own fact checking. Don't send it unless you're 100% sure of it. because we don't want that guy who questions the soccer, the English football versus college football questions, and the Kenya, Mount Kenya being highest in the country of Kenya.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yeah, and oftentimes it gives us like two, two, three weeks of people following up on a thing when someone gets something wrong. So unless you want to be that guy who gets something wrong, make sure your stuff is good. Exactly. your check yourself before you before you wreck yourself. Brian, we're done. Let's get out of here. You got a little song lined up for us. I do. This one's going out
Starting point is 01:35:32 to Jeff Covermeister. The other day the family was in the car and it could have been me by the Struts came on and my eight-year-old started singing along. How do you know this song? Well, it turns out that was covered by Halsey in the Sing-2 movie. It's a fine cover, but
Starting point is 01:35:48 can you play your favorite cover of the Struts? Keep on, keeping on. Signed Jeff. Nice. Well, actually, that is a good cover, and there aren't a lot of covers of the struts out there. As a matter of fact, this is the only song that ever gets covered, and the only other version of this that I could find was a, like, a bluegrass or instrumental version that I don't think it was as good. So, let's play the one that, the one that your eight-year-old likes and that comes from the Sing-2 soundtrack. From a couple of years ago, here's Halsey, or Halsey? Halsey, I think.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Halsey, I think so. We could be doing that wrong, but I've always assumed Halsey. Halsey, yep. It's Ashley with the letters rearranged. Here's Halsey, and her cover of the struts could have been me. Don't want to live is an untold story. Rather go out in a blaze of glory. I can't hear you.
Starting point is 01:36:48 I don't fear you. I live now with the bad. dialogue, got your bullets with your broken past. Well, I can't hear you. I don't fear you now. Wrapped in your regret. What a waste of blood and sweat. Oh, I want to taste love and faith. I want to feel pride and shape. Don't want to take my time. Don't want to waste my time. Don't want to wait. One life. I want to live better days. Never look back and say it could have been made. It could have been made. Yeah! So on a week up on a Monday morning, the thought it works getting my skin crawling. I can't fear you. I don't hear you now. I'm wrapped in your regret What a waste of blood and sweat
Starting point is 01:38:00 Oh I want to taste love I'll feel bad at shit No No No one always God Have better dead
Starting point is 01:38:23 It could have been me I want to taste love and pray I want to feel bright and shame I don't want to waste my time I don't want to wait my mind Never look back and say It could have been made Oh it could have been made
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