The Morning Stream - TMS 2589: Spider-Scents

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

The nuts come later. Telepathetic. Slice of the Mundane. Psychosomatic Donut. The Butt Fire. The Thriller Hole. Is there any red port wine left? There were TWO meats. Smells Like Melanie. Is he Austri...an or German? Finnish him! Better Short Than Long. Drivin' Pirate Ships Around. Pop was Anthony Daniels. Tuesday Night RAW on Mondays with Tom. Going Full Buscemi with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The morning stream needs you to live. Want to help us live? Join patreon.com slash TMS, like Pixel Rage, Perplexer, and Katrina Dios did. Coming up on TMS, the nuts come later. Telepathetic. Slice of the mundane. Psychosomatic donut. The buttfire.
Starting point is 00:00:17 The thriller hole. Is there any red port wine left? There were two meats. Smells like melody. Is he Austrian or German? Finish him. Better short than long. Driving pirate ships around.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Pop was a. Anthony Daniels. Tuesday night, Ra, on Mondays with Tom. Going full Bouchemmy with Nicole. And more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I'm watching Transformers.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Right now, Optimus is showing a holographic depiction of Cybertron and the Decepticon capital city of Ceyon, where Megatron ruled as Lord High Protector. Super fruity. the morning stream save it for the french good morning everybody welcome to tms it's the morning
Starting point is 00:01:15 stream for wednesday january 24th 2024 it's a 2024 kind of 2024 or 24 day lots of 24s today where's jack bower when you need them yeah no kidding i miss that show there's rumors they're coming back with some whole new thing. Of course they are. Of course. I would watch that. Why not? 24 Revival. Let's see if I'm right about that because I remember here. Why does everything bad happen to me every 59 minutes? Yeah, this is crazy. Oh, here it is. Kiefer Sutherland on his radical 24 revival idea. It says here, if I get to do something else with it. Yeah, he claims it's his idea. If I get to do something with it, I would certainly jump at that, says the actor who stars in the new Paramount uh plus show thriller hole no rabbit hole there's no thriller hole wait a minute wait what i made that
Starting point is 00:02:06 up completely um but whatever i'd watch 24 revived i do that oh i would too yeah that show was great my favorite the president that i would vote for in a heartbeat was president palmer and uh yeah he was good yeah could we could we get him can we get him now like we were in good hands with that guy yeah yeah are you in good haines that's right he's not only only a president. He's a fantastic insurance pitchman. Oh, yeah. I would buy in fact, we had. What's what was it? What was the? He was Allstate.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Allstate. I had Allstate. Yeah, I had Allstate for a long time. I don't need more because it turns out the guy I was working with was skimming and ripping us off a little bit. Oh, no. Whole story I never talked about, but don't worry. It's all good now. That guy's, that guy might be in all sorts of litigation now. Oh, gosh. Wow. Yeah, we moved on from that. Anyway, it's good to see our. everybody. Hope you're all well. We're going to
Starting point is 00:03:01 dive in to our Wednesday business today. We got all kinds of fun stuff later, including Tom Merritt and some tech time. You're going to listen to what Nicole has to say about her recommendal. No Randy today's off to see a movie premiere. Which is funny. The thing he's going to see premiered here
Starting point is 00:03:16 at Sundance. Oh, really? Okay. And is now, I guess, in other limited, probably mostly in L.A. I was going to say super limited, like limited run kind of It looks cool, though. It does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. It's kind of World Warcraft-y thing that it's not about World of Warcraft, but it's about something to do with some relationship in there or some... And I think it's filmed and like they created the film using machinima. Is that right? Is that what I understood? Something to that effect. It looks interesting, so definitely want to see that when it comes around.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Maybe it'll be on the Sundance Channel. I'm sure it will be, yeah. Yeah, now is my, now is like, here's when it kicks into high gear for teen and me. We've actually only got four movies nominated for Best Picture that we haven't seen yet. Are you ahead of the game compared to, like, say, last year? Yeah, I think so. I think last year and this year, we were, we probably hit the nominations at five or six. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think last year we were pretty close. But we also, you know how we also like to watch all the shorts, animated, live action, and documentary shorts before. the awards too because those it's like what's a good example for somebody who doesn't drink coffee? You don't drink coffee so I can't use the espresso comparison but
Starting point is 00:04:38 oh yeah okay you know how you've got strawberries like you grow your strawberries I don't know if you've grown if Kim grows strawberries you do last year I did yeah you get the big one and it's like oh this one's this one's pretty good it's a pretty tasty strawberry and I know there aren't worms in it because I didn't get at the grocery store and then and then you pull off a little tiny strawberry that's already red.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It's already, you know, fully matured, but you're like, you bite into that little one, and it's got as much flavor as the entire big one all packed into one little tiny, uh, strawberry. Yeah. That's what shorts, those shorts are, man. It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, hey, you're limited by this, tell the best story you can. And, um, and you get that whole, uh, that whole two-hour experience, usually in like a, a 30
Starting point is 00:05:25 minute short, and they're usually fantastic. Yeah. There is even long-form movies I see and say that could have been, that was a better short film. That would have made a better short than a lung. Yeah. You know what movie I feel that way about is Cappy. The Irishman?
Starting point is 00:05:40 No. They're not Cappy. Chappy. The one with the robot, the chappy robot thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I would say Roma, which won the Oscar a couple years ago, and a lot of people liked more than I liked it.
Starting point is 00:05:54 That would have been a really good short. short. Yeah, that was a big hit with some people. I haven't seen it, but it seemed long to me, so I didn't watch it. It seemed depressing. I didn't want to, I wasn't in the mood for some reason. Yeah, not so depressing, but very much just slice of life and slice of what felt like a pretty mundane life. Yeah, make short films. A pretty non-memorable life. Yeah, make short films out of that kind of stuff, Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. Well, anyway, I got a recommendation to start things off today. Cool. Let's get it. Let's hear it. You know, Sea of Thieves. You've heard of it, the video game. I've heard of it. Yeah, I watched a little tiny, like five minutes of you guys playing history and said, oh, interesting. Okay, bye. Yeah. It's basically a big pirate simulator. You're just, you know, driving pirate ships around the place trying to find loot and treasure and you're fighting, you know, skeletons that shouldn't be alive and rival boats full of real people who want to take your stuff and take your boat down. You have cannons. You have all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:53 It's a, you know, it's been widely received as a great game. It's made by Rare, who, you know, everybody knows Rare. They made everything from Banjo Cazui to freaking, I can't even thought. To Golden Eye, you know, all those games back in the day. Yeah. Anyway, it's a fantastic game. And they just had their five-year anniversary, so we wanted to try the new patch, which has a bunch of quality of life stuff in there.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And I played that with Bow and John yesterday on stream, and I had so much freaking fun in that game. And I was a total noob in there, didn't know what I was doing. They made me drive the boat, which is probably a mistake. Because it's very physics-based. Certainly using the term drive would be the mistake. Yeah, steer is the more proper way of doing it. We had that hard time, I had a hard time remembering Starbird was right and left was port.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Port. Here's how you remember it, this little phrase right here. Ooh, is there any more Red Port wine left? Oh. Because then you can always remember that red, because red is port, green as Starboard. So, like, if you look up and you see a plane flying overhead, you see the red and the green lights, you know, the red is port, green is starboard, same on a boat. And then port is left, red is left. So if you have anything left, you remember left.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay, that makes sense. Is there any more red port wine left? And that's the... John's recommendation was that port is only four letters, which is the same as the word left. That's good, too. It's all right. I don't think it's as easy as yours. I think yours makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:08:24 That's what my dad taught me when we were sailing. Just, Brian, remember, is there any more red port wine left? Oh, that's not bad. Apparently, my dad was Anthony Daniels. I never told you that, but I guess it finally comes out. Do you ever kick you and go, ah, too, you bumbling, whatever, you'd ever do that? You boob. You boob.
Starting point is 00:08:45 A little boob. But yeah, we had a really good time in there, and that game really captures that. essence of what we all think of as like the fantasy pirate to be also the music's insane the sound work's insane and in particular the waves the water in that game I don't even know it's next level dude
Starting point is 00:09:06 I've never seen water like that in a video game in my life it's so rad somebody find me better water I don't think you can do it I don't think it's possible and it's all dynamic so it's not just for looks it's like the ship is moving and you know going and all that
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's on GamePass. It's on Steam. It's all cross-compatible and platform. It's all platform agnostic. So you can play from anywhere. You play on your, your freaking PlayStation, your whatever. It's on everything. Although it may not be on PlayStation. I don't know. Now that I say that. It's a Microsoft joint. So maybe not. Yeah, I'm probably not yet. Anyway, it was a lot of fun. Highly recommend it. Do it. Get three of your friends or even less. Two of you is fine. Whatever. Just get friends. Get friends. Have the many friends you have? I have lots of friends. Some of my friends are the best friends. That's right. And buy a boat. You don't buy them. You just get a boat. Taper that down, by the way, for people. Oh, you have? Specifically for Brambeau Bright and Jeannie.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Well, you don't want them. You know, you know, you want them on your good side. Those two. I do. Especially Brambeau Bright. She's coming to TMS Vegas, and I, uh, I promised her a hug, but I don't want her to punch me in the arm for my, uh, Trump impersonation. I'm excited to see her. I'm excited to see, uh, Wabit Magic for the first time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. He's coming. Uh, there's a lot of, uh, uh, A lot of newbies that... Yeah, a bunch of old faces that we've only ever seen here. They're going to be there. Can't wait. Can't wait to see those old faces.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Some of these old faces on their way. Yeah. Brian, let's try some Kit Katz. It's been a while since we've done this. Yes. Do I have a food thing? I probably do somewhere.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Let's see. Food. Let's play this one. Uh-oh. Almost washed your food down. Okay. Let's see how this goes. September, aka 9 of 12
Starting point is 00:10:53 in our chat, sent Japanese exotic-looking weirdo-flavor Kit Katz to us. Yeah, and I think two of the three of these are Japanese. I think that this third one, the big full-size Kit-Kat, is just regular,
Starting point is 00:11:09 and I'd never heard of this... Chocolate-frusted donut. I haven't heard of chocolate-frusted donut being a thing. Yeah, and it's all English, so I think this is from here, I think. Yeah, but melon and then that looks like a hazelnut I'm thinking let's see does look like hazel nuts
Starting point is 00:11:25 or wait what's the kind of nut that you have to cook them to eat them is that but that is maybe I'm thinking of something else I might be thinking of a bean well it could be these could be red beans I don't know I mean there's a yeah it's not a it's not clear well we are going to
Starting point is 00:11:43 chestnuts okay these are chestnuts those are the ones you do have to cook to that's right I forget to roast them on an open fire I hear. Yeah. Chest nuts. Or was it? Chestnuts roasting on open fire.
Starting point is 00:11:54 No. My nut? No. How's it got? There was an old version of the song we used to sing when I was a stupid teenager. I'm sure there was. It was something roasting on open fire. My nuts.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Tickling at your nose. Oh, geez. Well, that's what Jack Frost roasting on open fire is what we did. We just switched it around because we thought that was funny. Because, you know, you're 60. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Swap them around. That's much, it's more creative than the Batmobile loss. to wheel business. When you're 16, everything's funny. So, whatever. Mellon, the nuts one, or this other weird one? What do you want to do? Let's start with melon. Okay. Let's do it. Because I have the least hope, I think. See, it's got a little melon on there. Some mel. I don't know what melon that is. What melon is that? That would be a cantalope, I'm guessing, because of this, the, the colors are reversed. Yeah, I think it would be reversed, right? It would be that yellowish color with the green
Starting point is 00:12:49 lines. Oh, smells good. Smells Melanie. Smells like Melanie. Smells like Melanie. I should really call her. All right, let's break that open. Snap. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Oh, that's, that is, that is a fine Kit Kat right there. Ooh. You know what? Mm-hmm. Oh, man, Japan. What are you doing? Okay, that's fantastic. melon high marks melon
Starting point is 00:13:21 high marks on the melon you set the bar high melon that's right now let's compare it to the chestnut chestnut yeah the Christmas treat known as the chestnut I don't know that I've ever had a chestnut to be honest I don't think I had them I think for the first time I had like just regular chestnut
Starting point is 00:13:39 as opposed to chestnut flavored something we went on the the Silverthorn Christmas train a few years back And there was a guy out there selling and roasting freshly roasted chestnuts. And so we took some of those. And it's like, yeah, these are all right.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. They're a little, they're weird and soft and, yeah. Are they smoky? Are they, like, what's the flavor comparison? Just, I don't know, just like a hot peanut, basically. Wow. I don't mind a hot peanut. Way bigger.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Monkey banana says they're like a sweet potato. Molly says they're like, they're mealy. We'll see how they are in this form. Glad you didn't smell it. I mean, I just taste like a... Like a sweet Kit Kat. Yeah. Like a Kit Kat.
Starting point is 00:14:34 There's a nice, there's a nice finish to this. Yeah, it's a little nutty on the other end. You're right. The nuts come later, but this isn't bad. Little nutty is my rap name. Yeah. You know, the little nutty. Lil's, they're popular now, so get them
Starting point is 00:14:48 while you can. A little nutty. I think the melon wins, but not by much, still pretty good. Now, let's see how chocolate frosted donut. Let's go to America where I'm told everything's made out of wax and boogers or whatever they do.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Carnoble wax or whatever they. Yeah. And that weird acidic acidic acidic thing. Oh, this is interesting. This is actually colored like a chocolate frosted donut. See that? Like it's look at that dark chocolate on top that's a weird process i wonder how they work that out so this is
Starting point is 00:15:22 what america does we're like what if we made it look like they were on top of each other it still tastes like shit but look it's not enough for it to taste like a thing we're gonna make it look like a thing yeah all right here we go all right here we go chocolate's not as good I mean it's okay I can tell that melon Even both of those other two are made with better chocolate Yeah yeah This is this is fine
Starting point is 00:15:54 These are fine These actually they really just taste like a chocolate A light chocolate Kit Kat right Yeah there you go Just like a Like if you said to me Hey this is just a Kit Kat I would believe you
Starting point is 00:16:08 The donut part is only coming out because they're telling me it's in there. You know? Because my brain's like, well, it must taste like donut. So I guess I'm tasting donut. Yeah, if you were to, if you were to have me to try that without telling me the flavor, chocolate donut would not even be among my first 10 guesses. Well, we did it, everyone, food time.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Much of foodie. I could tell you. Yeah, there's that. There's that sounder. Classic. Classic. All right. So, Brian, I understand we finally got our contract for Vegas.
Starting point is 00:16:40 it's in your hands look at that well there you go there's there's what i was going to say so thank you oh i already i blew the the deal so that's great my hands is the contract and it's signed and sent over to the plaza sweet and this is why i usually obfuscate my uh my my comments in the top of the show stuff it's like well this one was very something in my hands this one was very descriptive so it was easy to say it was a little bit yeah so so so she finally replied that's important thing. This is good. She replied, I mean, she's been good about replying. She just hasn't been good about getting me the contract. So we went back and forth with a couple other changes. They
Starting point is 00:17:21 mistakenly, this would make quite a few people happy, but they were giving us the ballroom for games, for board games, all three days. It's like, no, I don't think we could do that all three days. We don't even, we don't even have a, you know, we do the welcome reception that Monday night. So, Um, but anyway, so we got things locked down, um, uh, and, uh, and signed. It's back in, uh, Monique's hands. And we should have a code. And finally, I can get VivaTMSVegas.com updated with the code and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And, uh, people can start going there again for information. Nice. And notes about what we'll be doing all three, all three nights. Changing things up for a couple things. So look forward to hearing more about that. but Tom Merritt is planning on it. Bill and Brittany, Duran are planning on it. We're hoping for the core guys. Yeah, we're still working on that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But we may have some guests there. Like we said, a bunch of you who have never been before are going to be there. Going to be great. Oh, my Wendy. Wendy will be there. My sister, Wendy, will be there. Her and my other sister, Misha, are going to come together again, and Carter's coming with us.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Bobby and Amy and and we're hoping to wrangle Stephen Schleiker I mean it'd be interesting if we can get if we can get every TV's traps will be there Bobby I mean we could almost get every single
Starting point is 00:18:55 TMS guest on for yeah minus Randy and Nicole unless they're coming I don't think they are but if they were we stopped to work on Randy I wonder if we could
Starting point is 00:19:09 We might be able to get Randy. He's, he's always been a maybe every year. Maybe we can get that. Maybe it turned into a year. He likes, he likes Vegas. So, why not? He does. And Nicole would be fantastic.
Starting point is 00:19:20 We could get her as well. Yeah, we had her a couple years ago, but we'd love to have her back. Yeah, anyway, it's going to be good. Very excited. Moving forward. I got some art to show people soon on some of the swag theme that we're doing this year. So watch for that. Yeah, I can't wait to see that.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, going to be fun. So get ready. It's coming. Yeah. End of April. All right. Moving on. We got to get some Tad Fully Fully.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Tad Pooley feud. Tad Fulery. Let's do some tad Fulery. Tad Fully Pued. Going. But to do that, we need Dunaway, and we need one of you to call in. So if you... Necrosanck in the chat room, by the way, reminds you.
Starting point is 00:19:58 You're still in the C of Feeves Twitch channel. So as opposed to the just chatting or the... Shouldn't be. That's weird. Sometimes this thing where you set it, it doesn't... change it the way it's supposed to. That's fine. Hey, look, if we get some C of these people in here, it'll never hurt.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's right. Like, those, those things don't matter that much. And this is, uh, this is a person you guys all need to work on. If you want, if you want to get him to, uh, to Vegas, you all need to work on him. I can't do everything, people. You all need to work on Brian Dunaway and really push the, put light the fire under his butt, right, Brian? Right. The fire.
Starting point is 00:20:34 The butt fire. The butt fire. The stress poops. Hey, it's Brian Dunaway. I mean, of course, we'd love to see in Vegas, but, you know, you're a busy guy, you get stuff, whatever. Oh, hi, Scott. Oh, hi.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Oh, hi. Oh, hi. Well, in the past, it's been kind of a combination of work schedule, money, you know, energy. Sure. Just pure energy. Pure energy is a big, yeah. Pure energy. Yeah, no, I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah, I would love to go. So I've been thinking this is probably the closest mentally. and just everything lining up is a lot better this year than it has been in years past. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'm really trying. You're giving me some hope, which is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to dash your hopes. Well, it's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I know it could happen. Yeah, you would. Well, it's lovely having you here, and we're going to have a little game today. Now, let's see, who has pinged me already to perhaps join in? We've been pung. Oh, it looks like it's a usual, a regular. Let me pull in everyone's favorite overseas listener. I don't know about favorite.
Starting point is 00:21:48 There's a lot of them. Hi, welcome to the program, Janie, Janie, Jan, Jan. How do we say it? I forgot. I think it's Jan. Oh, Yon. I forget every time. Hey, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, you're doing all right. You're staying out of trouble and whatever you do over there? Yeah. awesome that's great news everyone that that is like that is like office casual conversation right yeah it is a lot of time yeah sure how you been good yeah working hard hard you're working yep over here working the copy machine drinking the coffee whatever i can picture it all that's right it is yanna yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah finland right okay cool yeah oh great to have you great to have you great to have you back on the
Starting point is 00:22:38 show. I agree. Brian explained to him how this works and what he could win. Okay, it will. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics and Scott and Brian here have to predict the answers they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Yon, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian if your team wins. You will get a prize package that includes metal, Hellsinger, and Rebel Inc. Escalation. Oh, I thought you said escalator. Escalator, rebel escalator.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It goes sideways, but not up and down. That's right. Do we talk about this before? Are you okay? You have to time it right so that you stay on the escalator without going further up or further down. That would be a great game. Yeah, I'd play that game. And then reality hits in where you step off at the top where they got the belts to go through, the people are always stepping through.
Starting point is 00:23:34 That would be amazing. That would be great. All right. I was just going to tell him that Metal Hellsinger game was developed in Finland, I think. I think that's a Finnish developer. They like their metal music. Really? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:23:48 No? Not? Maybe not? Let's see. Metal Hellsinger. Hold on. I think you've got a no. Well, I don't want them.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I don't want them. Oh, it's Swedish. Sorry, Swedish. I did it again. I get the Swedes in the finish. That was the most offensive thing I've heard. How? Why?
Starting point is 00:24:06 Because you don't like the Swedish. you guys like the Swedes don't you? You're okay with them. You guys get along with the Swedes? We get along and that's about it. That's about it. That's about it. It's probably a lot like, you know, what you call someone Australian, British or vice versa. Right. Or if you said, how are you doing over there? Scott, you're Colorado or whatever. I was saying like, congratulations. When do you do? See, that's the. Oh, that's worse, yeah. Because if you said I lived in Colorado, I would go, no, no, no, I'm just a state over. Like, it wouldn't bother me. me, but I know it's weird and ancient, like really ancient European countries. I know it's weird. See, you don't live in a north, south, east, west kind of state like I do.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's always offensive. Yeah. You live in North Carolina? No. Yeah, but you still love the Panthers. You got to share those with them. Yeah. It's fine. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. Begrudgeonly. Yeah. Well, don't worry. They did nothing this season worth talking about, so it's fine. I will say this. Brian, I think you've got an excellent chance of winning this time because Scott hasn't even logged into the feud boards.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Oh, I did, but it didn't keep me? Oh, it logged me out. Hold on. Play again. I'm in now. There we go. All right, good. I can't explain that.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I was in. I was in the thing, and now I'm going to explain that with science. All right, well, let's get to it. Put your hands on your buzzards and give me your best answer to this. We asked 453 Tad Poolers to give their best response, which, I'm sorry, if you could only have one superpower. What would it be? Brian.
Starting point is 00:25:41 The power of flight. Flight. Show me. Flirt. Oh. Number two answer on the board. You bunch of perves. I know you didn't say the other thing.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm going to say invisible, invisible. Invisibility? All right. Show me invisibility. Ah. Oh, yes. Your perves said. which means, Brian, you get Jan and you get control of the board.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Scott's so disappointed. Yon, you still with me? What do you think about? I am always with you, Brian. Excellent. Very good. I would never mistake where you're from. Hey, what's your, what's that superpower you got over there?
Starting point is 00:26:30 What do you, what are you going for? Regeneration. Regeneration. I like that one. Yes, I like, I would like to be some Wolverine action, right? Sure, sure. Yeah, and by the way, if you ever, you're like, you're not sure what the power is called, just pick a hero and say the hero.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I want powers like that hero. Okay. Except for like Superman who has all the powers. Yeah, can't do that one. True, true. All right, show me regeneration or healing. Oh, good points. A lot of people, a lot of people, number six answer on the board.
Starting point is 00:27:03 A lot of people said healing. either myself or others, the ability to heal others. Oh, so, oh, some people are healers. I got you. Nice. Yeah. I like that. Do you have another one, or do you want me to take a stab? Telepathy.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Oh, telepathy. Telepathy is one of my favorites. No, I always get these confused. Yeah, right. Professor X is to telepathy. The other one is telekinesis. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Right. Right. But yeah, telepathy is a great thing. Being able to, being able to do mind stuff controlling people or hearing their thoughts. That sort of thing is. Mind stuff. Mind stuff. We just, we didn't do much. We just did a little bit of mind stuff back in college. All right. Show me telepathy or mind control. Yeah, number seven. Oh, more good points. Look at you. Number seven. Not bad. All right. Now, personally, my face. favorite is bamphing. I would love to bampf my caller bamping. But yeah. Okay. Bamphing's always good. Sure. Yeah. What do you think? What, what you got? You've been doing good so far. I don't want to mess it up. Yeah, I bampf all the time. That's how they get around in Finland. That's right. Bampfing. Yeah, it's always a, it's always a questionable, like, do I need to know what the place looks like that I'm bamphing into? I mean, that was the whole thing with a night crawler. He could.
Starting point is 00:28:35 It wasn't, you know, it was always like a stressful thing like, I don't know if I can see what is in there. So I don't know if I can Banff in there without bamfing into a dresser or a side table. I love that we make him say Banff like a hundred times. Yeah, exactly. All right, show me teleportation. Number one answer on the board. People want to just be able to get where they're going instantly and not have to wait. I'm surprised that's number one.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I am too. I'm shocked. I was worried it wouldn't be up there. Awesome. What else we got? What are the kind of powers do we have? Are we going to go with super strength? Or is that too lame?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Nobody wants super strength. Of course they do. I would. Either that or super speed. Oh. I think with the teleportation, maybe speed is kind of closer to it. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'll let you decide, unless you'll meet it aside. Let's go with super strength. Super strength. Super strength. What kind? You want controlled Superman strength or you want Hulk Madness Strength? Who is like, who is asking to be an out-of-control rage monster?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Me. Okay, all right. My superpower is to basically black out and destroy things. It's because it's like, it can just keep increasing. That's always the argument. It's like, oh, Hulk can keep increasing power. the more angry he did you can't destroy him oh sorry uh all right super strength is what you're going with yes okay show me super strength
Starting point is 00:30:13 yeah number 10 big points for that one big big points for that one can i even compete with this nine plus 17 26 you can still you can still uh make it basically basically you'd have to run the board and that means that uh he'd have to x either Wait, so you're on his one. Excellent. Excellent. In that case, wasn't Nykrol Austrian? I'm pretty sure he was German.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Was he Austrian? I thought he was. No idea. Do you really want to try to guess that? Let's got guess. Yeah, let's stay up in the Scandinavian countries where none of us are sure. He's finished, you guys. He's finished.
Starting point is 00:30:53 That's all we know for sure. Or I'm sorry, Swedish. Four answers left on the board. What have you guys got? I've always been a big fan of elemental controls. like fire or ice love ice man that kind of stuff what do you think well go for one of those then one of those fire fire ice lightning like a like a pyro with like a pyromancey kind of thing does it need to be specific i don't like how he's backtracking on that one that makes me feel
Starting point is 00:31:24 nervous well let me let me ask you this donaway or brian ibbett can they say if they said elemental is it enough i would i would uh sure, yeah, let them say elemental. Oh, no, that means it's none of them are up there. Oh, my gosh. I mean, at this point, at this point, there's no reason for me to not be helpful when you've already won basically. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Then we're going to go with the element. We said fire, right? Is it what we said fire? I think that's what we said. Or elemental. Just pick, just show us the strike. Just get on with it. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Here you go. Oh, element. Show me elemental. I'm a little surprised by that. I thought that'd be in there. Yeah, I am too. Nobody was that, nobody went that direction,
Starting point is 00:32:15 which is kind of surprising. We'll talk about it once we get all the answers out there. So we didn't include storm or no of that kind of stuff. I mean, pyrochinesis was on the board, we're not on the board, pyrochinesis was one person said pyrochinesis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I'm going to go with, this is probably wrong. Oh, Shojo was the one who said pyrokinesis. Nice. Let's go with Chojo's a fire starter. Time.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Let's go time travel. Like, you know, Dr. Strange or somebody can manipulate time. Yeah. That's a tenet. Yeah. Show me time travel. Yeah. A lot of people says.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Time manipulation, like being able to stop time or being able to time travel. And I figure it's really kind of one and the same, right? Stopping time and doing a bunch of stuff is kind of like time travel because to everyone else, you've gone into the past and done a bunch of stuff while they just did their thing, while they just stood there for a second. All right, let's do super rich. I was thinking of, I was thinking of Rich yesterday. super wealth yeah super super money vigilante by night batman style hero batman tony stark kind of uh yeah uh super wealth show us being wealthy exactly super wealth uh poop uh you know we joke but that was let's see um where was it i know i know oh there
Starting point is 00:33:55 we go billionaire uh one person said that yeah i just don't know how else how else do you class classified people like Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne. I don't even know what they would say. Yeah, it's true. Yep. Or even, yeah, go ahead. What they, this is kind of adjacent,
Starting point is 00:34:11 but I was thinking about this yesterday. Could we have a new richy rich? Is that, is that even possible in our day and time? Is that like a pure 80s kind of? No, it's not even an 80s thing. He'd be a crypto bro with his buddy the ghost
Starting point is 00:34:24 and his, his girlfriend, the witch. Oh, it'd be awesome. It's not even an 80s thing. It's just an old. Well, it's not, but he did well during the 80s.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Yeah, well, there was a movie. There was a movie. But that was the whole thing. Like, every joke had to center around that he just had money. And that just isn't that, it wasn't that super funny then. Yeah. It would be super funny now. Yeah, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I don't think, I think Richie Rich might be done. I think we may never go back to it. Was that McCallie, was there, there was a movie, right? Yeah, that was him. Yeah, too much movie and it was Culkin. Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. Did I dream that?
Starting point is 00:34:54 No. No. Because I certainly didn't see it. That happened. Yeah. It was a movie and it was not good. Let's put that on the film sack list I'd watch that
Starting point is 00:35:04 He had a cartoon run during the 80s as well Anyway I think we should go back to Super Speed We never did say that did we Uh no you didn't That's a great recommendation I think it's still up there I think speed is up there
Starting point is 00:35:16 All right Take him the Super Speed Quicksilver Flash all those Yeah okay Show me Super Speed Number 9 That's pretty good
Starting point is 00:35:27 Definitely locked out Oh yeah there he is right there Look at him all rich with his RR, his double, his backwards R and then his frontwards are. Richie Rich, baby. Yeah, that was at the height of his thing, right? This is like after home alone, right before things started to Peter out for him, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Anyway. All right. Before he had to do the Good Son and shows his dark side. The good son? No, what was that? What was the Good Son? Was it the Good Son? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Oh. Is him and Lucas Haas? No? I don't remember. Who's the other kid? I don't remember this at all. In my head is his real brother. Nutterous Eddie Haskell or something.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Oh, here it is. No, it was Elijah Wood was the girl brother. Yeah. Was, uh, let's see. That's great. Yeah, psychological thriller. And also, I think after this would have been the girl one. Oh, yeah, my girl.
Starting point is 00:36:17 My girl. Yeah. I like that movie a lot. Because you like it because of Dan Aykroyd. Oh, every time. Every time they hired him to do something unacroid like. I love that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Love it. All right. I'm really proud of being able to mush Zoe Saldane Aykroyd together into a... Good job. I guess that's a... That's a Natalie Portmanteau right there is what that is, because I use celebrities. Nice. It's a Natalie Portmanteau.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Well done. All right, you guys... You've got two answers left on the board. Get them. Let's get them. Let's get them. Let's go get them. We got, um, hmm. Magnet controlism. What do you think? No one. No one's looking for that. No one's going, I want to be a giant magnet.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Nobody's saying that. Maybe pre-cognition. Oh, that's a good one. Precognition is not bad. Yeah, I can predict things. See the future, yeah. Precogs like destiny and spider sense. Spidey sense.
Starting point is 00:37:14 That's a good one. It's basically a form of precog. It's not, no, no, no, not S-C-E-N-T-S, Brian, but S-E-N-S-E. That's spider odors. Are you guys who say precog? pre-cog. All right. Show me pre-cog.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Oh. Well, Tom Cruise will have to go down to the pool and figure it out himself then, I guess. Let's see. What have we not done? This is hard now. Let's go with, you know, web slinger. Web slinger's a good one. Yeah, Spidey Sense.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Maybe it's a broader category of animal-based things. I don't know. But I would say Spider-Man-ish zone. there, whatever that is? Okay, all right. It's one superpower, so like the agility or the shoot, I guess the ability to
Starting point is 00:38:11 make web shooters because you certainly don't have spiderwebs shooting out of your wrists. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I just... Go ahead. What are you going to say? Say it. Oh, I was going to say this reminds me every time I go to get something at
Starting point is 00:38:25 the Chinese places in the mall. I always go. I just want two meats. You can't get two meats. I just want two meats. It's not possible. Can I get the sweet and sour chicken and the moose shoe pork? No. No. No.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah, this is hard because all the popular, I'm thinking maybe X-Men. It's funny because you guys have said one of these and never actually went with it. Oh, we did? Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Rogue is a very unique. power sucker. I like those. Right. The ability to steal other people's powers. But if you're the only person in the world with superpowers,
Starting point is 00:39:06 that kind of becomes pretty useless. Oh. You know what? Let's go. You know what's popular right now? MCU-wise is people in disguise. So I'm going to say, what do you call that, though? Oh, shapeshifters.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah. Let's do shapeshifter, a person who can be whatever they want to be. Show me shape-shifting. I like that one a lot. What? It was number 11. It just barely missed the top 10.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But, I mean, if you do shape-shifting, you can shape a flip into a bat, bat. And then you're, you mean, then you've got the power of flight. That's right. Form of a bucket of water. Yeah. And then you've got the, you practically got invisibility and flight. Oh. Why couldn't I, why couldn't I shape shift into an invisible person?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Can I do that? That seems cheating. That's already on there. No, that's not, that's not, I mean, it's a question. I don't mean in the game. I mean, like, if I'm, if I have shape-shifting ability and I can shift into anybody else, why couldn't I shift into somebody else's? I guess powers maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:08 There would have to be somebody else that has invisibility. But then you could, yeah. All right. I'm in. Let's do it. That's my hot new plan in life is to become that. God, talk so long I forgot what I was going to say. Shit.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That's his real superpower. I didn't talk very long. It's like 40 seconds. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It wasn't long at all. You can't have two meats. I don't know what you think.
Starting point is 00:40:35 What you got over there. There was one I was thinking of. Oh, shrinking. Shrinking or growing? Oh, sure, yeah. What do you think about those? Think of ants man. The ants man.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The ants man. I've been thinking of the love sausage from the boys. Okay. It's a lot of the same theme. Yeah, yeah. You've been thinking about it. Thinking about it for a minute. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I think any size control, maybe, that's what we should just do with that. Sure, there you go. All right. Show me size control. That is the third strike. Scott, you've got one last chance to get some more points up on the board. Two answers left. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Let's, it's funny, because you said we've said one that we just haven't said it again. Yeah. He said me who said it? Who was it? Yeah, you said it, actually. Well, you both said it. You clarified something with regard to it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, I know. Shit. Clarified something. Okay. I still don't know. Oh, well, I guess we never did say... Yeah, we never did telekinesis, the moving of objects, right? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Telepathy you did mind control, but we didn't do... Yeah, all right. So I want to take a couch and throw up. it off the side of a building. So telekinesis. Show me telekinesis. Oh, yeah. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, the clarifying the Professor X versus the Gene Gray is what that was, yes. All right. That's good. So one last one. Let's see if I can just get some redemption here and still have a winner. One last answer. Number eight answer on the board. Stretchy, like Mr. Fantastic Stretchy Plastic Man.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Okay. Yeah. Let's do that. So not havoc. Yeah. No. Show me super stretchy ability. Boom.
Starting point is 00:42:34 No. That's all right. Somebody said that one, I think. Mr. Plastic. Who's your favorite? Yeah, Plastic Man. No, that's an easy answer.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Plastic Man is stupid and dumb. And Mr. Fantastic is awesome. He's the better answer. And because he was also, he was also super smart. So he kind of, he kind of did have to. two powers right there what about super smart i'm a brainiac that's a more of a villain power didn't you did you not say super intelligence i guess you didn't because i would have told you that that was
Starting point is 00:43:05 number 13 in the list let's talk about what uh what's missing here on the board clear this one right here this would be like your uh your luke cage involuntability invincibility so yeah i kind of lump that in with strength for some reason in my head it's like superman stuff yeah i mean you you know doesn't mean you can lift stuff but if people can't shoot a bullet through you then you're uh yeah it's basically it's basically bruce willis and unbreakable versus glass his nemesis that's kind of the idea there right no because he's super strong scott he is he is but you can't kill him either though that's the all idea right so that's the thing you can have a you can have somebody who's invincible but not strong they could be weak but
Starting point is 00:43:46 invincible yeah he's kind of a mix he's strong but not that strong he's more like that the whole movie is literally called unbreakable like that's the name of the film we're careening into a comic book guy really fast. Yeah, we are. We definitely are. Let's talk about some one as you didn't get. Shapeshiftingness, I said number 11. Immortality was number 12. I'm glad that one
Starting point is 00:44:07 didn't make the top 10 because I question it. Super Intelligence, number 13. X-ray vision, but only through clothes. Habah, hubba-haba-uga-uga-u-ga. Somebody actually put that as their answer, so I decide to keep it. Photographic memory, so like your taskmaster, your ability to
Starting point is 00:44:22 imitate actions you've seen, echo i think is uh is that as well uh animal communication uh there's your aquaman kind of uh weather control your storm your luck manipulation uh your long shot your domino uh matter manipulation so like molecule man or um loki can kind of do this where you can kind of turn one thing into another uh the power of persuasion sure a lot of people actually do have that um speed reading uh super metabolism You're matter eater lad, transmutation, which is kind of like matter manipulation, really. Somebody said the ability to refill anything. So, you know, you're, you're, you don't like somebody.
Starting point is 00:45:06 You make them fill their bladder. But if you like someone, you can refill their bank account. Oh, all right. So what would we call that guy? During the day, he's Phil, but at night. He's, he's filler. The ability to understand true intent, being in two places at once. Uh, communicate with anyone in any language, conjuration, controlling light like Ms. Marvel.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Um, let's see, plants. So we want, somebody who likes poison ivy. Uh, actually, somebody did say the everyman power from Simpsons, absorb superhero powers from comic books. So, kind of, kind of rogue-like. Sure. Yeah. A different, different rogue-like, comic book, rogue-like. Uh, let's see, intangibility. So smoke kind of thing, or phasing like Kitty Pride.
Starting point is 00:45:55 he cried um omnipotence okay okay he's plain impotence yeah that's so popular omnis that's uh yeah the the mr manhattan right is he is he that or is he dr man is a great i took his doctor off yeah he didn't go to four years of school to be called mr manhattan yeah mr manhattan's his father's name get it right okay uh let's see the ability to make whatever food i wanted to appear in front of me and have no health repercussions from eating anything I want it. So there's your metabolism. And my favorite, the ability to be telepathetic.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I think they meant telepathic, but we're going to go with telepathetic. Telepathic sounds, that is some mystery men style business there. I'm telepathic. Well, I'm telepathetic. I'm really lame over the phone. You wouldn't believe that. I can't even understand what you're saying if you speak it, let alone if you think it. So no flatulents like in mystery men.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I got you. No farders. Well, well done. That's awesome. And you know what that means? It means this right here. Whoops. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You're a winner. Brian, you guys won. I lost. Which is a real bummer, but that's okay because these games are going straight to Yon. And he deserves it. He deserves it. He's a cool finish guy. He's translucent to the point.
Starting point is 00:47:14 You can see his heartbeat through his body like a baby fish. That's what the finisher like. They hover above the ground. He also hovers over the ground. There's his superpower. He hovers over the ground. A couple inches. is all, just a couple inches.
Starting point is 00:47:25 How do you feel about your big win there, dude? Oh, I'm really happy. It's great to be telepathetic. You're an excellent telepathetic here, and we've enjoyed having you on. Your stuff is on its way via Discord. Thank you for playing. Hey, Donaway. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Let's not forget that this weekend, Prince of Persia is getting our deep, thoughtful look. Yeah, so only the 2D ones, like the 1 and 2. We're not getting into the, well, we're going to get a little bit into the late 90s 3D one, but that's as far as we're going. Then we're pumping the brakes. A fun side-scrolling version. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Yeah, yeah. Fun. I've never heard Prince of Persia described as fun, but yes, I do like that idea. I think it's fun. Once you, once you like figure out, oh, that thing is just going to break away the second I stand on it. And that one, I have to put something on that thing to keep that door open over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's brutally punishing sometimes, but a very, rewarding game even today. Yeah, and if you liked Karateka, I think that's how you say it. I always called it Karataka, but Karataka, if you like that. It's Karataka. It's not Karataka, is it? That is how I watched my Daniel
Starting point is 00:48:36 son, a fanfic. I've watched some interviews with them with the developer, and that's how he says it. He says Karataka? He's wrong. Karataka. Karataka? Here, here, I'm going to find it because it's going to bug me now.
Starting point is 00:48:52 My whole life, my understanding was carotica. That's how I see it. That sounds worse, carotica. It sounds worse. I'm having a carotica. It sounds like porn with a carotid artery. It's like carotica. Okay, is this it?
Starting point is 00:49:09 How to pronounce.com. Porn with a carrot. Let's hear what they say here. We got audio. Caratica. That didn't help at all. Every syllable had the same emphasis. It's right in the middle.
Starting point is 00:49:20 All right. How about this one? Carotica. Okay, about this one. Karatea. Karatea. Karatea. Karate.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I like this is Karateka. Now I don't know who to believe. That's up. Yeah, so tune in Friday for us to talk all about how to pronounce that. Yeah. Hey, I heard you're talking about an interview with the guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That's where I heard it at. That's where you heard it. Okay. So, by the way, I heard you guys talking earlier about kick and talking about the gambling and that kind of stuff. So if you go to kick and you go to your profile, you can turn off, very quickly you can turn off all the gambling crap and you can turn off the hot tub streams and additionally the one that's what I want to do that well that's it's so much easier to do that on kick versus the things you have to ignore on Twitch but the big thing that I did not check on
Starting point is 00:50:05 it first is I was like oh what's wrong with that I did not check off VR chat I was like oh VR chat that's cool people talking in VR that's fine hmm I checked that box after I saw what VR chat was oh have you never seen have you never seen VR chat before because it is something in there I've been in I've never seen VR chat. What is VR chat? I've been inside of it. So since you have a headset,
Starting point is 00:50:25 I don't know, which headset do you have, Brian? Do you have the two? No, no, I have, yeah, the Quest. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I have Quest one. Yeah, the Quest one. Okay, I think you still use it. But anyway, there's also a 2D version of it, but VR chat is a social VR space where people go in and they rip off all kinds of stuff. Like, you'll see Optimus Prime talking to a Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:50:45 It's really dirty. People are really weird in there. There's some weird shit in VR chat. Because there's a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, cosplay, role-playing kind of stuff. And it's almost all of that, all the ones that I saw streaming it. So people who are just hanging out in VR chat, no, they don't stream. No, the ones that aren't, you find them in the corner and they're like humping back there doing virtual hoo-ha.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, they're streaming that crap. Yeah, say no more. All right, fair enough. So if you're into it, go for it, is all I could say. Dunaway, well, that'd be great to look forward to it. Kiss our butts by. I said, no, you first. Gosh, dang it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Beat you to it. He did beat me to it, the bastard. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. Tom Merritt, we're going to talk some tech, see what's going on in the tech world this week. And all that stuff will be coming right up after this song, Brian brought. Yeah, let's go to Montreal for this one. Back to some rock and roll, a little bit punk-influenced rock and roll. Listen, if you like bands like No FX, Lagwagon, and Some 41, I think you're going to like a band called The Speakeasy.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This is their debut self-titled album. which means it's called the Speakeasy. Get that. This is a courtesy of Thousand Island Records, which we know is just a combination, the merging of ketchup records and mayonnaise records. But here is their first song from the album. It's called Gunpoint.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Here are The Speakeasy. Putting together, remnants from our heart. Mother, keep me from falling apart. Saturday night. so lonely so I reach for the bottom think to myself the fuck is up with people these days am I the only one losing faith burning the bridges I won't follow killing time but time can be borrowed A sinner drunk is what they call me
Starting point is 00:52:46 Who keep up with the 21st century I'll be gone someday, will you miss me? It's a night for night. The world has gone blinds The tears and the drums The blood on our hands When you look at me, When I make immense
Starting point is 00:53:03 On the road to redemption We're driving all night Can't wait to see what it's like Always in a hurry and go for it Can't stop my mind Can't stop these racing thoughts We keep the products production are rolling
Starting point is 00:53:20 Tell my wife I'm working over time It's the cruel world a cold night after dark fucking high Calling all cars suspicious on sight Running from the walls Pay attention to this silence We'll make it out of you together alive It's the tears and the drugs The blood on our hands
Starting point is 00:53:41 When you look at me When I make immense On the road to redemption We're driving all night I can't wait to see what it's like So hit me with your past shots Give it all you've got What doesn't kill me makes me stronger
Starting point is 00:54:03 Only makes me stronger So hit me with your best shot Give it all you've got What doesn't kill me makes me stronger stronger The fuck is up with people these days Am I the only one losing faith Burning the produce I won't follow
Starting point is 00:54:28 Killing time but time can be borrowed Is the tears and the drums The blood on our hands When you look at me When I make a mess On the road to redemption We're driving all night I can't wait to see what it's like
Starting point is 00:54:46 rock and roll music dungeons and dragons marijuana and even the new age movement and now we feel there's another attack upon our society he man and the masters of the universe really broke the ground on this cartoon occultism i don't give a shit And we've returned. Tell me more about that band song thing. Sure. That is the band Karateka. No, that has the band Speak Easy from their self-titled debut album, which is coming out soon. That is a song called Gunpoint. Karataka. I can't deal with this revelation. There's somebody linked audio in the chat, YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Oh, here it is. Captain Kipper. Yeah, let me play it real quick. See what we get. Oh, let's turn down. Let's go back. Just to get a high score. I say Karateka again Okay here we go So my first games were copies of existing arcade games
Starting point is 00:55:53 And you always had three lives And the goal was to get a high score But now I was a freshman in college And I wanted to do a game that would tell a story So that's when I started programming the game That would become Karataka It is Karataka Karataka
Starting point is 00:56:05 Karatapa I don't even know That's I'm telling you I called it that for so long That this feels so wrong but he's the creator he's no he knows
Starting point is 00:56:17 yeah he's basically the person who does get to tell you listen Bruce Willis doesn't get to tell you whether or not diehard's a Christmas movie and he's wrong because he tells you it's not but the creator of Caratake can definitely tell you how to pronounce Caratay yeah I think yeah
Starting point is 00:56:31 does he say I can't remember that is that a thing Bruce Bruce Willis said during one of his roast that diehard is not a Christmas movie but he doesn't get to decide that no it's not his call has he even watched Diehard I'll bet he hasn't even watched his own movie come over to the house we'll have a few laughs we'll watch my first
Starting point is 00:56:48 movie during moonlighting wasn't his first but a first movie it was one of the best of his first movie well it's the one that really pulled him out and made him something you know kind of yeah I mean was that actually now that I say that was blind date before uh that's a good question when does blind date land his first name is really Walter I didn't know that Walter Bruce Willis Walter Willis Walter Willis Walter Willis weller weller wellas well well well we can't We always choose our first names, but we can choose who comes on the show and talks about technology, so let's do that now. We want Tom. We do want Tom.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Tom Merritt, everybody. You know him, you love him, and he's back. It's a Wednesday, and we're going to talk about tech. Tom, what's going on? I'm just curious. Why do you respect his pronunciation of the game when you don't respect the creator of the GIF's pronunciation? Because. You do, don't we?
Starting point is 00:57:41 Or does he say it's Jeff? He says. Everyone says, no, we don't care. You're wrong. Yeah. Really? I think that one is an, that one has it. Because it's more convenient to do things the way we want.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah. Yes. I think that's probably the answer. But also, his problem is there's too many examples of that G being wrong in other, another context. And so, Karataka. Yeah, giraffe. No one says giraffe, right? GIF is short for graphic interchange format.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And you don't say it's giraffe. interchange format. You say it's graphic. Yeah. Yeah. GIF. See? See, that guy's just wrong about his creation. That's why we say 3 instead of E3. Because it's the electronic Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's why they went up. Electronic Entertainment Expo. That's right. That's why they closed finally. They were out. They said we've done. We can't do this anymore. Well, Tom, now that we've learned that, let's learn some more things. What's going on today? I'm sure there's something bustling or happening.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Did you talk about the WW thing with Netflix yesterday? No, we did not. Yeah, so big deal in Netflix getting live streaming sports that I'm writing up my substack right now and I'm basically saying like all of us have wrong. Everyone who told me Netflix was going to do things is wrong. I am also wrong and Netflix itself has been wrong. Here's why. People were telling me, oh, Netflix cracking down on.
Starting point is 00:59:12 passwords. It's going to fail. It's going to drive away. People, people will just cancel Netflix. Netflix's content is stale. Nobody wants Netflix anymore. Netflix just added a record 13 million subscribers in two. Yeah, they did well. 260.8
Starting point is 00:59:28 million worldwide. I've said Netflix won't get into live sports until later this year or early next year and when they did it would be something really niche like surfing or pickleball or something like that. Netflix itself said, we don't want to rent sports.
Starting point is 00:59:44 We want to control it. But instead, yesterday, they announced that they have licensed pretty much all of WWE worldwide. The only exception being the parts that are on Peacock right now. So the big deal is raw. They're going to get Tuesday Night Raw, which is on USA Network right now. Next year, that will be on Netflix everywhere in the world. And then Smackdown and a bunch of other stuff that's on Peacock will be on Netflix outside of the United States as well.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And it's the licensing deal. They don't control it. They're just becoming the new home of all that stuff. And it'll be live stuff, not tape. Live stream. Yep, absolutely. And then I assume probably archived and whatever else they're going to do with it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You'll be able to watch it on demand and stuff, which is true now. This just feels like such a Netflix thing to do, kind of along with what you were saying before, but they tend to dabble in a way that the others don't. The others are like, we're going straight to the MLB. We're going for the big ticket NFL. like they just they feel like to do the only way they're going to compete in live sports coverage or streamers is to just go nuts whereas Netflix with their gaming stuff with some of their experimental television stuff early on and even this it just feels like they're like we'll try a little we'll do a little something to see how it goes and it seems to be serving them just fine people are making fun of me for saying Tuesday night raw because it's on Monday so by apologize I got inside you know you notice neither Brian and I corrected you because we don't know exactly guess how much I'm going to watch twice as much WWE, now that it's on Netflix as I've ever watched before,
Starting point is 01:01:15 because two times zero is still zero. Yonaloxo said, it's Tuesday in Korea. Oh, hey. That's right. There's your problem. Anyway, yeah, WWE is perfect for Netflix
Starting point is 01:01:30 because it's content, right? It's storylines, it's characters. So it fits in better than a lot of other sports would. I proposed on DTNS yesterday, that possibly down the road, if all this goes well, Netflix might want to buy TKO holdings and just bring the whole thing under their control,
Starting point is 01:01:54 because TKO is the parent company of WWE. So I wouldn't be shocked if that was, you know, floated during conversations for the licensing. But even if it wasn't, I think that's a possibility. Again, this might not go well, in which case they wouldn't. But, you know, this is them dabbling. It's kind of similar to Amazon taking a stake in Diamond Sports, which runs all the Ballet Regional Sports Networks. They took a minority stake and are getting a licensing deal, kind of dipping their toes there.
Starting point is 01:02:23 That one's more fraught because it's a bankrupt organization versus WWE, which I think is doing well. Yeah, they're doing all right. Does this have any timing to – or does the timing of this have anything to do with the Rock, aka Dwayne Johnson joining the TKO board yesterday? I've been trying to figure that out too, right? Yeah, that's the first thing that made me go, huh, I wonder if Netflix wants to buy this down the road. And is Dwayne their bridge since he's worked with Netflix on movies and now he's joining it? I like to look at those things and go, okay, well, if Netflix wasn't involved at all, what would you think of Dwayne Johnson joining the board of TKO? And I wouldn't blink an eye at it.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'd be like, oh, yeah, smart businessman. They're smart to want to have his advice. He's, you know, came up in there. So, yeah, it makes perfect sense. He also got, he now has control, full control again, of the name, The Rock. He couldn't use that for a while or couldn't use it without permission. Yeah, Alcatraz suit him. Is that, what if?
Starting point is 01:03:16 It was some weird thing going on where he couldn't use it freely. It was like somebody else held the trademark on it from when he had used. Yeah, TKO. Well, TKO, I think, owns it technically, the trademark on it. So maybe that's part of him getting on the board. Yeah, there's something with that is happening. So you might see him in future movies build once again as the rock, but. I don't know. Well, that's interesting. And of course, you know, the tech angle of Netflix.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Also, a lot of people have said that no one will want to pay for ads on Netflix. Netflix says ad-supported plan made up 40% of its new sign-ups last quarter. 40? 40? Holy crap. Not 40% of all users, but new subs. But 40% of all users, but 40% of new sign-up. So when you sign up, they're going to retire the basic without ads plan. They already don't let you sign up for it new. But people in Canada and the, UK who have it are going to have it taken away and they'll have to either bump down to
Starting point is 01:04:10 the cheaper with ads plan or bump up to the medium tier plan. Interesting. Well, good for them, I guess. It just feels like... I'm sure when they do that, it will cause everyone to unsubscribe to Netflix and they will finally... Oh, sure. Yeah, another online freak out that goes nowhere. That'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Looking forward to that. Totally going to move to Norway. Yeah. Everyone's living in a bubble. So why... Exactly. Because it's too cold to go on. They Netflix and warm Is what they do Sleep in the country if they up prices again
Starting point is 01:04:40 They don't Netflix and chill over there They're already chilled Well there you have it More on this and other wonderful Thoughts and comments happening later On the Daily Tech News show I'll be on there today Your kind of usual Wednesday
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm bringing a little information About what's going on with this Pal World thing I can't wait for you to tell me about that Yeah it's going to be a trip Because that whole thing The whole discussion around it has gone from A little weird to one of the craziest subjects in gaming
Starting point is 01:05:06 now. So we'll talk about that and so much more 2.30, no, 2 p.m. Mountain Time today. I still do that now and again. Tom Merritt, anything else going on that we can tell people about in the meantime. Indeed. So I mentioned I was writing this up for my substack. I've got a few more thoughts on this Netflix thing that I'll throw in there. Yesterday, I talked about the WWE. And I've got a thing about Apple's AI strategy. Financial Times had an interesting article about that today. So if you don't want to have to page through everything and read it. There are two great things you can do. Three great things you can do. You can get daily tech headlines, and in five minutes,
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Starting point is 01:06:00 Tom Merritt, everybody. We will see you a little bit later today. Bye now. Bye. Bye now. Very good. Got that weird hiss for a couple of weeks. I've got to figure out that is.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I think he was, it sounded like he was recording from somewhere else because we also didn't get video, which we usually do. Oh, that's true. I didn't say anything, but I assume, yeah, I assume it's the same weird problem we're having this week. He's an unknown, undisclosed location in a bunker, the tech bunker. Yeah. Although it didn't last week, it was giving us some weird echo from us, but it didn't do it this time. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That was a different thing. Yeah. So who knows? I don't know. All right, we're going to get Nicole. A burner phone or something with us or something. Yeah. This is TMS phone.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Burner microphone. Yeah, I like that idea. Nicole's going to join us. We're going to do a little bit of recommendals. It's one of our favorite things to do every week because, you know, it turns out we're media consumers. And we like to content, or we like to suck in some content and talk about it, you know? Boy are we. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And there's a lot, it turns out. Even in these post, what do you call it? What do they do? These post-strike times, there's still tons. Still tons. Yeah, yeah. We're never going to run out. No.
Starting point is 01:07:09 But we may not get Nicole to answer her phone. Let's try that again. Oh, no. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh, no. Nicole, you pick up phone. Pick up phone, Nicole. You know, pick up phone, Nicole?
Starting point is 01:07:20 Hello? Hello? She no pickup. I was watching Jeopardy and the guy missed a Bible question because he did not know what Deeronomy was. Oh, I figured we'd get there. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:07:33 All right. Here's one of those. Well, what do you recommend? Well, what do you recommend? Brian's in full. He is in full 80s movie mode. There's just no stopping it. Hey, it's Nicole, and it's time for recommendals.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Hi, Nicole. How are you? I am. Great. I'm actually doing really good. It's very foggy here. As I was driving into work, I'm like, I feel like I'm in a Silent Hill movie. Do you have a little radio that only hisses at?
Starting point is 01:08:01 at you when you're near something scary or what's the deal there? Because that's what that game was. I hated that came. Oh my God. Island Hill. I haven't thought about that in a while. There's a new one coming. So get ready. Well, it's a remake. It's a two. Yeah, it's a complete remake of two. I think they're going to release it in two parts, but basically
Starting point is 01:08:20 it's a big time remake in this style of like Resident Evil and the way they remake their remakes. Like four was a complete overhaul. It's like that. So I don't think, oh. Oh, I don't know if I can do it. Or those nurses? Good Lord. The nurses. We're screwing. Uh, well, anyway, it's good to have you here. We're going to dive right in. Uh, no Randy this week. He is busy at this film premiere thing. So we're going to go along with Adam. Brian, you brought two clips today. I did. Good morning, morning stream. How are you guys doing? I've got a, doing great. Thanks for asking. I've got a couple of movies here. Uh, I'm going to do. All right. Actually,
Starting point is 01:08:53 neither of her movies. They're both series. So, uh, there you go. Okay. Let's start with this one. Uh, let's start with a little comedy. I had no idea. about this thing, and I'm so glad. I can't remember if somebody in the tadpole recommended it to me or how I found out about this. But I'm so glad I did. A little setup, just to make this a little bit funnier. This is a person who works in heaven, performing miracles, talking to God. Okay, there we go. Wow. All right. A lot to chew on. Here's your clips. You want to make a bet? A bet. Do you hear that, Sanjay? A bet.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Uh-huh. Interesting. You thinking a hundo? I was thinking something a little higher stakes. Ooh, a thousand? Bigger. If I answer one of these impossible prayers, you spare Earth. All right. All right, but if you fail...
Starting point is 01:09:55 Earth explodes. Yeah, but also, you have... to eat a worm, alive, and the whole thing, the head and the butt, in front of everyone. And you have to act like you like it. You have to go, oh, yum, I like worms. Hey, do you hear that sound? Isn't that great? Very funny. All right, good luck. Sounds like Steve Bouchem. It is. Two weeks. Oh, it is? A lot of month. Two weeks. Yeah, that's 100% Bouchem. me, right? It's one of a sense, Steve
Starting point is 01:10:33 Bissimmee. That is a show called Miracle Workers, and Oh, is this? Daniel Radcliffe is in this? That's exactly what this is. Yeah, I didn't have me... I started to watch this, yeah. Oh, my God. It's, you were the first person I thought of when I started watching this. I'm like, Nicole, I think, would love this show.
Starting point is 01:10:51 So, it's a four-season show, and I'll come back to why that's relevant. But the first season takes place in heaven with a bunch of people who work for God, God played by Steve Bissemi, who you can hear there, who ends a lot of his conversations with, I love you, I love you, which is really funny.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Wow. And Daniel Radcliffe works in the Answering Miracles Department, and he gets a new helper there, played by Geraldine, Viswanthen. I don't know if she's been in anything else. Let's see, she was in Halla and Bad Education, but she is fans. Fantastic. Oh, she was also in the 2018 film Blockers, which I've never heard of. Anyway, she's Australian. She is fantastic. And so basically, she's hired on to work with Daniel Radcliffe in the answering prayers department, just as God, who's getting really disillusioned with how Earth is going decides he's going to blow it up and open a restaurant. And I won't go into the details because it's really funny his idea for a restaurant. but they basically have two weeks to answer what's deemed, what's been deemed as an impossible miracle.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And if they do that, the earth is saved. If they don't, the earth is destroyed. And they have to eat a worm. And she has to eat a worm. Head and butt. This is hilarious. This is, it gives me a lot of the good place vibes because it's a lot of that, um weird workplace and a thing that you wouldn't expect there to be a workplace right like you know it's
Starting point is 01:12:38 very there's some superstore moments where you just see things that are going on like the endangered animals department and the guy is trying to decide which which animal because of budget cuts which animals to get rid of and it's just like these little interstitial clips um it's it's hilarious miracle workers it's on hulu now the reason i brought up the four um seasons is because each season is a complete story. So season one takes place in heaven and this whole thing. Season two, you go back, it's, it's, um, uh, it is the dark ages. So it's, it's like, uh, you know, your knights and wizards and things like that and, and
Starting point is 01:13:19 and druids and things like that. Third season is the Oregon Trail. And then fourth season is their take on. some post-apocalyptic road movie with a I might have to start with season four because I wasn't able to get into season one which is why I stopped watching it I didn't get into the good place either
Starting point is 01:13:47 the weakest what's that? I had a hard time getting into the good place too it wasn't until like I started like towards the end of the season and I got and then I got into it like the last that's funny and then i started from the beginning and watched it through yeah give give season one another chance i think season four you know it is it's the dancing around the fact that it's based on mad max fury road um and and it's like a combination of mad max fury road terminator children of men um the hunger games like they they kind of jam a bunch of different parodies all into this this one thing um and i think it's got its
Starting point is 01:14:29 moments, but it's not, for me, as good as the first three seasons. The, um, the first season in heaven, I think is hilarious. And give it maybe three episodes. Maybe, maybe give it, give the first season chance, because I think that might be the strongest of the seasons, but the dark ages and Oregon trail are also hilarious. Um, you get, um, and, and by the way, Daniel Radcliffe, Steve Bessammy and Geraldine Vizwant. Wait a minute. I just have to ask you. Yeah. How do you say Steve Bissemi? Is that really how, it's not Steve. That is really how it's, you and I do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:15:05 It's, it's been wrong all these years. It wasn't until a couple weeks ago with us doing desperado that we all learned a valuable lesson that day. Do you know how I remember what's her face, Pugh? Florence Pugh. The only reason I know how to pronounce her name now is because she does a thing where she says, you know, like, Pew, Poo. Please, please tell me how you pronounced her name before you learned that, though. Yeah. What'd you call it? Say it again. Did you hang up on me? No, we're still here. We're here. Can you hear us? Oh, I hear you. I hear you. Okay. How did you pronounce Florence Pugh's name before you heard or pronounce it? I don't want to. I don't. I know it wasn't Q. Please tell me it was Pug. Pug. Please tell me it was Florence Pug. Pug. Pug. Pug. Pug. It wasn't Pug. I wanted to be pug so bad. So, so. So, so. The Semi Radcliffe and Geraldine Vizwanthin all play characters every season. It's kind of like American Horror Story where they use the same collection of people but put them in different roles.
Starting point is 01:16:10 John Bass, and I'm trying to remember if, oh yeah, John Bass was in She-Hulk, super pumped. Oh, yeah, he was one of She-Hulk's bad dates. That's right. You'd recognize me if you see him. Karen Soni, who you've seen in all three Deadpool films as Dupinder, the Indian Spider-Man and across the Spider-verse, he's fantastic. The four of them, or five of them, all play characters throughout the season. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Throughout the four different seasons. I didn't even heard of this until today's episode. Didn't even know it was a show. Me either. And it feels like this should be, this is one of those things that I'd say has mass appeal. everybody will find something that they find hilarious in this and I think like you said I think the first season you really got to give it a chance if it did if the first episode didn't grab you really give it a chance it's on Hulu unfortunately it's freebie on Hulu which means you do get two commercial breaks but they're they're not bad um free V on Hulu free V is a Amazon thing free V is usually Amazon Prime but free V on Hulu for whatever reason oh I'm sorry not free Vee TBS on Hulu which still gives you commercial some of those networks still do that yeah yeah which is irritating but it's you know they're they're quick breaks and uh right um this show is absolutely worth checking out um especially if you like the good plays 30 rock very 30 rock and it is produced by lorne michael so so it does
Starting point is 01:17:42 have a little bit of that um that dna in it hmm all right i'm i'm super interested in this i didn't even know it was a thing please please check out at least the first couple episodes and and you'll be cooked. And you'll get through them quick because there's just what like eight episodes per season, I think if I remember correctly. Yeah. All right. That is my
Starting point is 01:18:03 first TV show Recommmental and let's get to my second. This one is a drama and it is somebody getting interviewed after a violent crime. Oh goodness. Here you go. He never went home.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I guess for a while I thought I thought I was home. Do you think Ariana's with him now? I keep telling you, I don't know where she is. Danny, are you really willing to take the blame for this? If Ariana doesn't show up, you're very likely to go to prison. So let me ask you again.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Where's Ariana? Like I told the police, I don't... What happened to Yitzap? They're not the only people close to you to disappear, are they? What happened to Adam? Danny. Where did they all go? What exactly are you accusing me of?
Starting point is 01:19:21 Very intense. That is a show called The Crowded Room on Apple TV. This is, that was Tom Holland and Amanda Seafreed that you heard there. She is an officer, an interrogator, and Tom Holland's Danny Sullivan is accused of a violent crime. This is a miniseries, 10-episode miniseries on Apple TV Plus that basically takes place through, flashbacks from these interviews. So she's interviewing and he goes back and kind of you see the things that he's describing. It's funny because there is a, there's a thing that you figure out in maybe the first episode or the second episode and you think, oh, that's what this is going to be. I, I think it, I've figured it out. I've got it all figured out. I know
Starting point is 01:20:15 the twist, blah, blah, blah. And then, and then that twist gets revealed a lot, a lot. a lot earlier, revealed a lot earlier than you think it would be and basically it's the movie or is the show telling you, yeah, we know the twist, wait till you see what happens afterwards, kind of thing. It's called the crowded
Starting point is 01:20:35 room. It's based on a on a book, 1981 book called The Minds of Billy Milligan and it's, so this thing does take place in the 70s. Oh yeah, you can see you have a lot. The clothes are really dead on there. A lot of bad hair and bad makeup
Starting point is 01:20:51 up and bad bad clothing choices and it does feel like it's muted in parts like colors muted but it's Tina and I loved this it's funny because this doesn't have terrific critical reviews
Starting point is 01:21:07 it's got better user reviews kind of middling 4.8 out of 10 34% approval score I think it's far far better than the reviews would have it. And that's largely in part due to Tom Holland and his ability, oh, do I want to do something, say something without a spoiler. Basically, his ability
Starting point is 01:21:35 to show some incredible range and, which he does just beautifully in this thing. Nice. I don't know what else to, what to say. Oh, it was created by Akiva Goldsman, who you know better as Star Trek kind of stuff. At least I do. I think of Akiva Goldsman for next, let's see, was it next generation? No, it was,
Starting point is 01:22:00 it's the newer stuff, right? Oh, like. Well, Fringe, he did, but also, I think some of the newer Star Trek stuff, people in the chat room probably will help me out. He wrote Batman and Robin. We won't hold that against him, though. Yeah, we won't hold that against him.
Starting point is 01:22:21 He's the showrunner for Strange New Worlds, so there's that. That's it. Okay. Sure. And three episodes of Discovery as writer and director, Picard. Yeah. Full producer of Picard, executive producer for 30 episodes of Picard. So, yeah, he's pretty in the thick of it, it looks like.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Totally. And I even appeared in Star Trek Into Darkness as a Starfleet Admiral. Look at that. Nice. Anyway, this is really good. And it's, like I said, far better than the reviews would have you. have you believed 10 episodes Apple TV Plus
Starting point is 01:22:54 Tom Holland and Amanda Seafreed in the crowded room Oh he directed or sorry He's writing the screenplay for Constantine 2 That could be cool Oh really? Yeah He's a busy boy this guy
Starting point is 01:23:05 He's a busy boy Yeah Awesome I was curious about this one Have been for a while And psychological thriller Is the best description I can
Starting point is 01:23:13 All right The perfect genre for this thing Jason Isaacs is in there I like him a lot Yeah he's great And uh he's great he's yeah again
Starting point is 01:23:26 it's like oh my god there's so much stuff I don't want to spoil by talking about it but it is a it's a very clever role for Jason Isaac ooh and Carmen Iago I love her in season three of True Detective
Starting point is 01:23:41 she was in that show we liked with Brian Cranston the judge thing was it just called the judge. What was that called? Yes, the one was Brian Cranston. Your Honor, that's it. Your Honor, that's it. The judge was that movie with our JD, uh, Jay. But anyway, it was really, she's awesome. Love her. She's awesome. Sasha Lane from Loki. She was, uh, one of the, she was the main
Starting point is 01:24:05 hunter, um, for the TVA. Um, Will Chase. Uh, oh, Will Chase is great, dude. Will Chase is great. Again, it's, this is, I really, I recommend it. Ignore the, ignore the, the reviews and watch it. It's so good. Okay. They're acting in there. The chemistry between Tom Holland and Amanda Seafreed, a non-romantic chemistry is incredible. I want to see more stuff with those two. Do you ever see devil all the time with him? No. Tom Holland. It's a Netflix joint. It is totally worth seeing. It's also got a Winter Soldier in it, funny enough. But it's nothing to do with MCU, obviously. But the,
Starting point is 01:24:47 that is so good. Oh, my gosh. Gosh, it's dark, but it's good. Reminds me that's the way you're describing it. Oh, Riley Keogh is in that. So, yeah, you said Sebastian, Robert Pattinson. Yeah, and a creepiest role. He's so creepy in it. He's really good, though.
Starting point is 01:25:04 That show, that movie, I guess it's a movie. It is a movie, yeah. That is, 2020 film. Excellent, excellent film. It should be watched. Directed by Antonio Campos. Yes. We all know him from other things.
Starting point is 01:25:18 That's right. Oh, yeah, the other things. I really like. They'll sound good. Nicole, let's get to yours. You watch something I have a great fondness for her. Do you want to set this up at all before I play a clip? I was just looking around on Hulu and came across this old.
Starting point is 01:25:33 I can't believe how old it is. Oh God, please don't call it old. It is old. I'm going to make you feel really old here in a second. So this is the time frame. This movie came out when I was my first year in college. but this also is part of a set of movies from the early 90s to the mid-90s
Starting point is 01:25:56 that I absolutely adored. It was in like my rotation. So some of the other movies to kind of give you an idea, singles, reality bites. I'm feeling very nostalgic. You should have recommended this on April 8th.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm just going to say it. I know. I know. But I didn't have enough time. the funny thing is I've looked for some of those other movies streaming I cannot find any of them so this is uh this is your trip down memory lane and we'll have a discussion about the actors because oh my gosh they look different a few of them yeah oh yeah uh well here you go here's uh here's your clip it's a little quiet hold on let me turn this up uh here we go okay it's still quiet my
Starting point is 01:26:49 Why is it so quiet? There we go. That's not what I said you. Did you send me something different? What'd you send me? That's the clip I got from you. It says it's the Empire. Oh, sorry, I'm giving the name away.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Empire Records store opening scene. Is that not? No, I didn't want to give you anything with music. I got the thing between Renezzo Weiger and Robert. Robin Turner. Oh, can you where did you send that? I sent it through Discord.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Discord? Hold on. I'm looking this up because I can't. But I, what I pulled out of there was this. I didn't search for it. Weird. Yeah, I didn't want to put any music in just to keep it clean. Yeah, it's always a good idea. Did I say you the wrong thing? No, for some reason, well, let me try the link again.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Oh, okay, now it's, maybe this is the right clip. Here we go. I'll play it. Well, Cheneid O'Rebellion. Shock me, shock me, shock me with that deviant behavior. That is so clever. I swear to God, you get smarter the shorter your skirt gets. And you get smarter the shorter your hair gets. So it's probably a good thing you went with that.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah. It's a wonderful look for you, darling. I like that hair. I think her hair is cool. Yeah. That was a big deal for that actress, too, because about a month later, she filmed a movie that became very, very popular
Starting point is 01:28:22 of The Craft. Absolutely love that movie too, but she's wearing a wig through that whole movie because of Empire Records. Who is that? Is that Debbie Mazer? Who is that? What's the actress? No, that's not Debbie Mazer. No, it's the other one.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Renee Zellweger. Are you talking about Raina? Not Zellweger, the one that has her head shaved. I can't think of her name. Oh, Robin. Is it Tooney? Tunney. Tunney. Tunney. I know her from things, right? We know. Yeah, she's been in a lot. Well, she was, she was the lead in the craft. Um, and that's like a witchcraft movie with, um, what's the girl from return to
Starting point is 01:29:00 Oz? Um, me. Oh, uh, Nev Camble's in it. Um, Ferruza. Ferruza. Bulk or whatever her name is. Ferruza. Ferruza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Christine Taylor, all those people. Sounds, she sounds like a little monkey kid. Doesn't you? is a bulk. I always want to say like Balthasar Getty or whatever that guy his name is. Balthazar is amazing.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I'm such a weird name and I can never say it right. So how's this hold up? I also loved Empire Records at the time but I don't know I mean it's such a it's so weird because record stores really at this level you have like
Starting point is 01:29:44 you had Empire Records um no this is the name of the movie i think of tower records virgin yeah version but you had all these like f y e or you know those types of places sam goody and yeah yeah and that was i mean another movie that has more of the indie approach which is high fidelity with jack black so you growing up during this time the record store was the cool place to be. And this movie kind of encapsulates teenagers at that time, and you have a lot of new actors that come together. I mean, this is really the first role that Renee Zellweger, I almost don't even recognize her in this movie. But this is also Liv Tyler's, I think,
Starting point is 01:30:40 first movie. You have Ethan Embry, which if you look him up right now, he looks like a mob boss. I just want to tell you, he should be, like, in a mob movie, the way that he looks now. I don't know. I don't remember seeing Toby McGuire, but it says Toby McGuire was in Empire Records. Is he a customer maybe? He just pops in really briefly. So just pop in. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah. He would have had, he had some other stuff going. He had that by then that would have been, what's the black and white movie? It's Pleasantville. He was in that by then. Oh, yeah. But like, so this, yeah, this is, uh, in particular. this is
Starting point is 01:31:17 Liv Tyler's third film. If you don't counter if you counter music video crap with Aerosmith there'd been two more but that doesn't count that so it's third something called something called Silent Fall something called Heavy and then Empire Records
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't know what those other two There was one I almost sent to the clip It was too long though And I didn't want to make you have to sit through that But it's a scene between her and Renee Zellwiger who are friends And Liv Tyler in the movie has
Starting point is 01:31:46 a crush on Rex Manning who is the kind of washed up rock singer that's cut it's Rex Manning days yeah um and so there's a whole scene a very intense scene
Starting point is 01:32:01 between Renee Zellwiger and Liv Tyler's character and it's it kind of they both have a bit of a meltdown but um I really I enjoy the movie still um
Starting point is 01:32:15 the character that is kind of the main catalyst for everything happening happening on this day is Lucas who's played by Rory Cochran who you may remember from Dazed and Confused as the stoner. He was also in CSI, Miami. He was one of the investigator guys. He looks so different now too. But the funny thing about Dazed and Confused, because that's another one of those movies where I was like,
Starting point is 01:32:41 oh, it's 1976. well that movie is not even a 20 year span of difference and the way when they came out with Jason Confused it was 1990 what was a 94 92 I think and it was taking place in 76 and I remember watching days and confused going oh my god that's such a long time ago yeah seems a lot longer than it was Rory Cochran's great he's like got a lot of range People just think he's either the stoner or the CSI guy, but that guy's in tons of stuff. He was great in Empire Records. Yeah, he's really good.
Starting point is 01:33:22 If you haven't seen Empire Records, it's on Hulu. 93 for days to confuse. I had the date wrong. 93 that came out. So a couple years before this. But yeah, he would have been roughly same time of his life there. It's crazy. I find it interesting to watch the younger generation consuming 80s and 90s.
Starting point is 01:33:42 movies and shows like Mateo and exploring things and I just kind of I just I try to I love it and then I go oh god I feel old oh yeah now that stuff is swiftly becoming a long
Starting point is 01:33:59 time ago classic movies exactly yeah that's why yeah I'm glad TCM isn't doing classic movies anymore because then it would be stuff like yeah it's like the there's like a radio station
Starting point is 01:34:12 called Casey 95 that's always played classic rock and so every once in a while I'll turn it on and it would be like like Nirvana like stuff that was rock in what I was in high school Yeah our local our local classic rock channel
Starting point is 01:34:31 will play like smashing pumpkins and I just kind of roll my eyes like are you kidding I mean I get it I get it the time has passed It is now officially as old as the stuff I was hearing on classic rock when I was a kid but I don't like being told I don't like being reminded it's not fun
Starting point is 01:34:45 but I do want to see this movie it's been forever I don't remember shit so I'm going to go I'm going to mark it and watch it I will warn you don't watch the trailer on YouTube it presents this movie awfully oh really
Starting point is 01:35:00 like the way they did trailers in the 90s terrible this movie is way better than the trailer you know kind of like what they did with what was the Tim Allen Star Trek one Galaxy Quest
Starting point is 01:35:19 trailer's awful right yeah it's not a good trailer you're right yeah trailers are often awful they don't know they sometimes they're afraid of what the movie ended up being and they want to convince people it's something else and I just wish they would just show us what it is
Starting point is 01:35:35 it's weird well I mean there are some there are a few trigger warnings in the movie The main character that you heard in the clip, Robin Ternie's character, she's going through depression. They talk about drug addiction. I mean, they talk about really serious topics for kids, teenagers, young adults during that time. And Renee Zellweiger, she uses sex, and there's a whole thing with that. And I love that the women talk to each other. There's, like, real conversations happening.
Starting point is 01:36:10 And so, but again, it's the 90s. Yeah, welcome to the 90s, everyone. This guy did a lot of 90s movies. This Alan Moyle is the director. He did pump up the volume. He did entire records. A whole bunch of stuff. That was kind of podcasting before podcasting, right?
Starting point is 01:36:27 Right. Streaming, yeah. Yeah. I remember thinking how cool would be to get a radio station. We have your own little small, small radius radio station, basically. Yeah. Sure. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Well, all right, then. There you go. Where's that streaming Hulu, right? Hulu, yeah, yeah. Hulu's great for just fine and shit, I find. Yeah. If I'm just looking for something, I'm not sure what mood I'm in. Hulu's kind of my place.
Starting point is 01:36:51 I like it for that. All right. I'm going to play a clip here from a documentary, and it is on Netflix, and it goes like this. Getting up early, listening to the wind, just howling. There was a specialness in the sense. snow on the surface. Every little thing was moving and there was a tinkle, literally a tinkle sound to the snow. The snow was alive. I got this kind of intuition that there's something lurking
Starting point is 01:37:25 here, that this is more powerful than anything we've ever experienced before. I feel like we're standing on top of a monster. All right, Brian inspired this because you watched that... Society of the Snow, yeah, the Andes Mountain, which you also need to watch. I know this is a documentary, and that's a recreation, a dramatization, or I think... Well, this isn't a documentary about that. This is a totally different incident. No, no, it's a different thing.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Yeah, yeah. But I got in the mood for, you know, let's go do some disaster porn. And so I went and I tracked this down. it's called Buried, the 1982 Alpine Meadows avalanche. And I'd heard about this when I was a kid. Very brief, I just remember talk about it. And I remember my parents being super serious and everybody being worried about it and being on the news.
Starting point is 01:38:18 I was very young, but I just have this very distinct memory of this avalanche. And I don't know that there's been one worse since then. Maybe there has. And I just, you know, I'd have to do research to see. But this is a documentary about that incident and how it happened, when it happened. some reasons why people got trapped in there. Many people died while they were trapped in there. And then a few people miraculously survived.
Starting point is 01:38:41 In particular, this lady named, if I can find her name, I can't. They're all played by themselves, so they don't have IMDB photos. I'm not sure who's who. But this lady who was very young at the time, I think she's 19 or something, 18. She worked there and she got trapped. And everyone was sure everybody was dead because most people were dead. but they got to her some 72 hours later and were able to pull her out and she ended up surviving and also just barely surviving like a couple times on the on the operating table that's sort of
Starting point is 01:39:13 in and out and they were they weren't sure she was going to make it um she's doing great now so that's good news but it was it's a really harrowing interesting look at there's a dichotomy up in the up in the mountains oftentimes these uh resorts slash ski lifts and these sorts of things, especially the ones that are cheaper or a little bit less highfalutin or whatever, they're often run by a bunch of kids, you know, 16 to 20 running everything. Yeah, like Action Park. Yeah, like Action Park.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Yeah. All kids. Yeah. It's a little like going to a movie theater now. It's all kids, right? It's just kids running everything. And it's not that it's a bad thing necessarily, except if you're, if you've got all the wrong ingredients that make for a horrible avalanche.
Starting point is 01:40:01 risk and nobody's really trained or knows quite what to do with it this this kind of explore some of that um it's 82 long time ago so no one's got cell phones nobody's got GPS like no this stuff exists so you're having to just deal with good old-fashioned survival stuff and i found it super interesting um it's not very long it's an hour 30 is all and uh it's not a multi-part or anything and it's really just about the event and it doesn't get political or get too weird about who's at fault or any of that. It's just sort of like this horrible thing happened. Here's what we remember
Starting point is 01:40:35 about it happening. Here's a bunch of old news footage about it. And then now here are these people telling their stories. And I just thought it was great. I really enjoyed it. Or is it streaming? Netflix. I don't think it's a Netflix original. It might be, but it definitely is streaming there. And I liked
Starting point is 01:40:51 it. I like ones where they just talk to people involved. They don't do a lot of dramatic bull crap. They don't try to make you feel a certain way. you either just feel certain ways or you don't with a good documentary and they're not afraid. You know, I don't like documentaries that are so afraid that the subject alone isn't enough.
Starting point is 01:41:09 They have to... Right, that's sensationalize it. Yeah, I hate that. Especially with music and other things. This doesn't do that. It, you know, uses music and stuff. And there's some of it's dramatic, but it fits and it works really well. So, yeah, I like it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 It's a big long title. It's called Buried. And then the subtitle is the 1982 Alpine Meadows Avalanche. And it was good. I liked it. It's actually been a couple of weeks since I saw it, but I checked it still up on Netflix. So you'll still be able to see it now. If you want to see all these things and you're like, wait, what were they all? Brian put them all up on QuicktmS.L.I so you can do that. All right. Can I ask you a quick question, Scott? Go.
Starting point is 01:41:45 I'm on your Twitch channel and it has tags English and Toe Spacers Choice. What's that? Toe Spacers Choice? Yes. Toe Spacers. I know what Spacers Choice is. Reading it wrong? Spacers choice. Spacers choice is from Outer Worlds, the video game Outer Worlds, but I don't know why it's on there. I didn't put any tags. Oh, Spacer's Choice? Yeah. Spacer's Choice is a Well, I can tell you what it is. Spacer's Choice is an intergalactic corporation in the game
Starting point is 01:42:18 Outer Worlds. It's a big RPG. So when you're in that game, you're talking to representatives of Spacer's choice. Why it's tagged on my channel, I've zero idea. I don't know. Why is it towed? T-O-W. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't put any that in there. I have no idea. Is it T-O-W or T-O-E? T-O-W?
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah, no idea. I was worried that I was just... Tote-cutter's choice would be a whole different thing. Yeah, it would be. I was just worried I was like, you know how you sometimes you get, when you have a run-on multiple words, you tend to make the wrong words out of the letters. So I'm thinking maybe I was...
Starting point is 01:42:56 I don't know. They must be, they must be them. a screenshot and send it to you. Chat says it's the only video tagged with it, meaning today's live stream is tagged with it? I have no idea. Weird. I mean, I was playing there's not a, there's not a
Starting point is 01:43:10 spacers choice somehow in Sea of Thieves because we were playing that yesterday, but I don't know, that wouldn't be in there. I don't know, dude. It's all just weather terminology for weather, like secret weather terminology. This actually tells you that it's 14 below
Starting point is 01:43:26 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Yeah, but do let me take this opportunity to remind people that Outer Worlds is amazing and you should play it. It's very good. Yeah, I did play that game. May have a sequel coming out. One more quick recommendal. This was originally going to be my recommendal day because I forgot that Nicole already recommended it, but
Starting point is 01:43:41 Nimona on Netflix, so freaking good. It's nominated as one of the best animation. Oh, did it get nominated? Yeah. It's nominated against like Wish and across the Spider-Verse and a bunch of things like that. But
Starting point is 01:43:57 Processed by the course will win. I hope so. But this is fantastic. It's like a, I don't remember how you described it, but it reminds me of the animation style, somewhere between the stuff that Jamie Hewlett did for the guerrillas, live action videos, and Teen Titans Go. You know, I was going to recommend Teen Titans Go movies. Because we've been, we've been watching, we watched two of them.
Starting point is 01:44:27 HBO um those are I love that animation so fun yeah that's great it's really cool but uh man all the little references to in pneumonia like pizza rat and uh careless whisper by wham I mean there's so many great moments in that thing it's it feels like
Starting point is 01:44:46 Mitchell's versus the machines which yeah there you go holy moly we watch that all the time still yeah I love that movie you need to watch you I think Carter especially if Carter hasn't seen Namona. I feel like, for whatever reason. Did you see it? You liked it, right?
Starting point is 01:45:02 Yeah, she liked it. There you go. Yeah. It feels like a Carter movie for sure, but it's so good. And I don't know if it's, I didn't even look it up to see if it's like based on a graphic novel or something like that. It is. It is. Such a great story, though, and great.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Do you have the comic? You've read it, though? I've read it. And you liked it? Oh, she likes the comic even more than the movie. me. Did she watch Mitchell's versus the machine? Oh, yeah. We did that together. Mitchell versus the machines is freaking. Make a sure, because that's like one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, that one's all-time. I love that.
Starting point is 01:45:37 And that was some, that was Spider-Verse people made that, right? Some of them. Oh, really? Or something? Yeah, I think so. I think there was some connective, uh, director director-director tissue or something going on there. Huh? It was Sony. No, I know that, but I'm, they're both Sony, but I'm, but I think there were actual artists or directors. I love it or something. Just bring Carter into the call. I know. Give her a microphone. Just give her a mic and let her rip over there. Well, awesome.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Nicole, it's always good talking to. I'm glad you having a good week. And we will talk to you coming up next time. How about that? Bye now. See you later. All right. Brian, we're going to get out of here before we do, though.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Yeah. Let me pull up my thing because I got none of my stuff up. There we go. We got a theory from a listener. This is from Meg, who wrote in. This is a text, 8014710642. She says this. Hi, this is for TMS.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Declaimer, I have not finished the episode. So, apologies, if this theory was brought up. But maybe the woman at the Olive Garden with the fake baby is the older sister of someone who is attending the dance. I thought about this, but we'll get to that in a minute. Maybe she's just watching over the baby, the fake baby, while her sibling couldn't. So the sibling wouldn't fall or fail the assignment. Just an idea. Although I know why they would, sorry, I don't know why they would assign the baby assignment the week of
Starting point is 01:46:57 of the dance, adore the content anyway, Meg. Maybe, but it doesn't explain the little their little girl. Right, abandoning the little girl. I feel like you get the fake baby question, but then you've also got the leaving the little girl alone for 20 minutes question. Yeah. 30 minutes, or however long it was. Yeah, that part's not clear at all, I'm afraid.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. It's a fair. John's not talking. John's not giving anything up. No. And they were also the only other one. So one would think if this class had multiple people who had to have a backup plan for their plastic baby.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I mean, maybe they'd left them home with their parents. I don't know. We thought of that, though, there. We were like, well, maybe this is one of those class things. And Ken's like, yeah, but why would the other kid be there? And then why would she disappear for so long? And the other kids have a baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And the other kids that were there, the ones that were for the dance, they seemed completely oblivious to any of this. I don't know. The mystery continues. We also got a follow up from B4 Tank Girl who says, this is a message for TMS, B4 Tank Girl here, to confirm, yes, Mardi Gras is the three Bs, boos, beads, and boobs. They added a fourth B, which is butts, men's butts, to be precise. I didn't hear about this.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Also, I saw an old woman with a baby, with a baby doll in her shopping cart last week. I waited for the child to come up to her, but none did. Anywho, happy Mardi Gras. So a similar deal there. I didn't hear this thing about men's butts in Mardi Gras. No, I guess is that how men can get beads now is just turn around and moon somebody holding beads? Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:48:34 I'm not interested in that. You don't want to see the reverse cheeseburger for an exchange for a bunch of cheap plastic beads? Turns out I don't. My sister, Sarah, who's here until, our sister-in-law, Sarah, who's here until tomorrow, almost as soon as she gets back, she's in a big Mardi-Raw parade. Oh, wow. So I'm going to ask her. watch for the man butt thing yeah tell her to count the butts see what happens yeah yeah we're about to finally oh by my brother-in-law steve who's like you know can build anything i may have
Starting point is 01:49:04 mentioned this but he's he's going to finish our our bathroom in the basement which we've oh that you're just say the arcade cabinet the bathroom good oh that'd probably a far better thing actually yeah more usable i suppose and puts more value in the house but anyway we've been putting this off for nine years or something and he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna because he travels here all the time for work. So from now on, when we see him, he's just going to run down there and do a couple of walls, put up the pipe thing, go and then leave, come back a couple of weeks later, do a little more. So we think by June or so, I got to finish bathroom for like a 5% of the cost it was going to cost me. That's going to be great. Great. I can't wait. My first P is. I will talk
Starting point is 01:49:42 about it here on the show. How glorious it will be to have your first P. That's right. And when I have to go before or after a show or during a thing even. It's just right over there. Yeah, that's nice. I don't have to go upstairs anymore. When we finished this basement, we did not do a bathroom because it wasn't blocked out down here and we didn't want to go through the hassle of running pipes
Starting point is 01:50:02 and that sort of thing. Yeah, if you're not plumbed for it, it's expensive. Yeah. So, you know, I get my steps in. I go up and down the stairs when I need to pee. It's just fine. Totally fine. Anyway, thank you both for your messages. 801-471.0462 is where to send those. If you want to find another way to
Starting point is 01:50:18 contact us or just get a hold of any data regarding the show. It's all over there at frogpants.com slash TMS. The only part you don't know yet is what song Brian brought to end us on today. So tell us what that is. You never know, really. This one's going out to Barbara Bailey.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Hey, Beth and Saltz. I'm celebrating the 26th anniversary of my 29th birthday. Do the math. Let's talk. Oh. I don't know what they get. Hold on. Let me get the math right. Give me the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:50:47 26th anniversary of my birthday. my 29th birthday. So that puts them, how do you do that? How does that math work? Add the two numbers together. Is that it? Yeah. That's all it is.
Starting point is 01:50:59 So it's 40, what is that? What are the first two numbers? Give it to me again. 26 and 29. Okay. So that makes you 50 something. You know what that means? You get this.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Happy birthday. You get the old lady. Sorry. That's the rules. Anybody else smell smoke? Anyway, happy birthday, Barbara. I'm a fan of bluegrass covers. I'm an engineer.
Starting point is 01:51:25 I don't care for country or metal, and I trust the covermeister to use that information to pick the perfect song. Despite my best attempts, the show continues to amuse me, signed Barbara. They're coming to get you, Barbara. So, bluegrass is what she wants to hear. Not country, not metal, but bluegrass.
Starting point is 01:51:45 My go-to, obviously, is going to be the Picking On series. This is a great one from the 2008, the Bluegrass Tribute to Classic Rock Five. Here is Comfortably Numb. Hello. Is there anybody in there? Just not if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? Come on now.
Starting point is 01:52:14 I hear your feeling down Real like it needs your pain Get you on your feet again Relax I need some information first Just the basic facts Can you show me where it hurts There is no pain you are receding
Starting point is 01:52:38 A distant ship smoked on the horizon you're only coming through in waves your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying when I was a child and I had a fever my hands felt just like two balloons and I get that feeling once again I can't explain you would not understand This is not how I am. I have become comfortably known. I have become comfortably
Starting point is 01:53:57 Okay Just a little pinprick There'll be no more But you may feel a little sick Can you stand up I do believe it's working good That'll keep you going through the show Come on, it's time to go
Starting point is 01:54:20 There is no pain you are receding A distant ship's smoke on the horizon You're only coming through in waves Your lips move I can't hear what you're saying When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse Out of the corner of my eye
Starting point is 01:54:53 I turned to look It was gone I cannot put my finger on it now The child has grown, the dream is gone So I Have become Comfortably numb The
Starting point is 01:55:21 I'm not going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. There is no pain distant ship smoke on the horizon you're only coming through in waves your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying
Starting point is 01:56:19 when I was a child and I caught a fleeting glimpse out of a corner of my eye I turned to look, but it was gone. I cannot put my finger on. And now the child has grown, the dream is gone. I have become comfortably known. Get more at frogpants.com. I think we should start seeing other people.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Ah! ha ha ha ha!

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