The Morning Stream - TMS 2590: Inaugural Dump

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

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Hey, everybody. Good morning. And welcome to TMS. It's Thursday, January 25th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibit. Hi, Brian. Hello, how are you? I gave you a one syllable version of your name, Brian.

Brian. Who, somebody does that, somebody that I know, says like, I think Chris Brown says it like that. He just says Brian, like that, Brian. Hey, Brian. Yeah, he'll shorten it. Chris Brown. Like, I have to call him his full name,

and he can't even give me the two syllables that I was born with. Yeah, it's only one extra syllable. It's not that bad. Should be able to print that out. Hi, Chris Brown. Hi, Brian. That quick. I like that.

Your true friend short in your name. That's how that works. Brian, we're here at last. You know, it's only been a day. At last. Oh, my gosh. What a week this has been. Busy week and crazy week and...

Lots of stuff going on. Lots of stuff. Yeah. Preparation for Vegas is in full gear. Everybody will have... It is. Yeah, I'll have an update right before we get to the news. Unless you want me to do that first.

Let's have some fun. Let's talk about fun stuff. Yeah, let's do this. Not that the TMS Vegas isn't fun. Don't get me wrong. I was talking pre-show a little bit of how we're putting a bathroom in the basement and we're doing it on the very cheap and having free labor, which really helps. Anyway, yeah, I got to remind myself, like, I'm not used to that kind of stuff.

I'm not a manual laborer, okay? It's not my thing. I wish I was more skilled in the areas of, like, how do you fix this? And why is your car broken? And I wish I was. And I could be. It's not like I'm broken or couldn't find a way to learn, you know? Right, it's not magic.

Like, you're not, it's not muggles versus drywallers. Like, you can figure out how to do this stuff. Do what I do, which is find somebody on YouTube who explains how to do it, then do it, and then take it to a professional to fix it. Oh, to fix the mistakes that you made. Okay. That's three. For profit. Oh, yeah, three easy steps plus then profit at the end.

That's right, exactly. But that requires copious degenerative gambling at that point. Yes, it does. Oh, I need to get back into that. I did one bet yesterday at one. Oh, well, then you've got the bug again. Mississippi State versus Florida NCAA basketball game. I said, I think it'll be under 150 points.

And it was 149 points. Like it was, it could not have been any closer. Goodness. It would have to be dead on to be closer. That's amazing. A whopping $13 on my $12 bet. Whoa. Slow down.

Don't spend that all in one place, Brian. I know, exactly. Like, the degenerate gambling is really taking a backseat. I'll come back to it, but for right now, it's really, really on the deal. Brian, Brian will be back pulling, blue hair pulling some, some slots before you know it. That's right. Exactly. I'll go from, I'll go back.

I'll be a regenerate gambler. Yeah, I can't regenerate of gambling. So, anyway, so we're working on this. thing and I forgot how you know if you buy you buy two by fours at the at the home depot which is where we got them or no we got them at Lowe's doesn't matter same place basically

and we come home and we got all these and we got the good kind the kind that aren't crappy or cheap they're decent because we want it to last them whatever so the thing is they don't it's not like that that means that these aren't just loaded with slivers right if you rub the wood the wrong way

uh-huh so I have this notion that I need to when I'm picking up this stuff and feeding it to Steve who's in that room setting up the framing we had to build the frame much of the frame we had to build inside there because normally you would build a frame outside and then move it in and put it in place but we there's no room for that because it's already built right there's no other all the other walls are covered so I can't really sneak it in so we're doing it inside the room so bringing a two a two by four in that we cut to length put it up in its place nail it in screw it in whatever and we kind of did it like that well here's the problem is we're

feeding this hand overhead at one point i'm i just slide my right hand on the wood i just go shk oh god i pull it away just thinking about that yeah yeah it's real bad and i ended up with like i don't know six or seven of these slivers that i then spent the rest of the night picking these out of my palm yeah so that was a lot of fun and then and then and then that same arm for whatever reason my shoulders like on fire today so you know I just don't belong there I don't belong in these situations yeah it's just not me that you're we're talking like you know saying that you're either you're not either born with it or you you learn to do it I mean that is the other aspect of it is doing it for a while builds up those calluses or builds up just that the the the muscles that you

need in that area that you do that thing for right like you know somebody who works out on the street jackhammering holes into the pavement um sure i could i could watch a youtube video and know how to do that and go out there and rent a jackhammer and uh uh put a hole in the street but i'm going to be a lot sore than the person who does it every day and and knows what they're doing that sort of thing yeah yeah i agree knowing how to do a thing there is a difference between knowing how to do a thing and doing it and yeah for sure and dr calhoun says it best the only way to get better is to do it it is a skill i completely agree. I have very few opportunities where I'm even have a reason to be doing it. So it's not like like Steve does this all the time. They are building from the ground up a brand new house in the middle of this property that bought in Mississippi. And so they're starting from nothing doing all the stuff themselves, a foundation on the place, the barn workshop thing next to it, the house itself obviously. And he knows all this stuff. He knows electrical. He knows building code.

He knows all of it. And, yeah, plumbing as well. And so, I don't know any of that. Yeah. You know, I just haven't been doing it my whole life. I wish I had, but I haven't. I did, uh, I installed, like, basically ran lines from another, um, outlet in our house. Daisy chained off another outlet and installed a new electrical outlet where we needed one and didn't have one.

Yeah. Um, I feel like I can do some electrical stuff in the house. Plumbing, I don't even want to touch with a 10, foot pole. Yeah, dude. Like, yeah, the fact that, uh, that he knows, you know, all these, these, uh, different trades, Tina's dad was really good about that. And Tina's dad is probably, well, known even probably is definitely why I feel like I

could step in and do that electrician stuff. Well, I think I could, uh, if I needed to frame a room, put drywall up, mud it, sand it, you know, basically get it, uh, um, uh, get it framed up and, and all that sort of thing. but yeah uh you know hats off to anybody who's able to do all that stuff and have it be second nature to them and have them you know instantly look at a thing and know how to do it without yeah and actually seems to enjoy it like steve steves the reason we're doing this isn't so much that we've waited too long on a thing like that's just you know we were going to build it and we just haven't whatever yeah the main reason is he said look when i come out here to work and

stuff. And if I'm hanging out with you guys at all, I work, I'm going to be gone, you know, all week for the work part. But on the weekend, if I'm here and I got nothing to do, it'll drive me crazy. So give me a project. Oh, that's great. That's awesome. Yeah. And I'm like, well, you know, I'll play a video game. You make a, I was going to say, it would be the same thing. Like, if you went out and stayed with them for a week and they're like, oh, my God, I have no idea how we need to set up a Wi-Fi network or we need to install, you know, router or, or, or, build a PC or something like that. You go, oh, give that to me.

I'll take care of that. You guys sit back. Let me do that. Yeah, seeing those things, I'll fall well within my purview. I can do all of those things. Hey, our internet's not right. What's up with that?

Oh, well, let me take a look. Like, I can do that. Like, I've got the skills for when the electricity is on. But the plumbing is working and the, yeah. But the minute the zombies, the minute the zombies are in charge, it's all heads off. It's all heads off. That's not the phrase. It's all heads on deck.

All bets are off is what I meant to say. All bets are off. Okay. I knew something was off. Turns out it was me. Hold on a second. I'm trying to, let's see all bets are off. I thought that's like, uh, like it is a, it's the wild west out here.

Like, uh, you know, once, once I, uh, once I set up my McDonald's, all bets are off. Yeah. All bets are are off. Which is a weird thing to say if you say, okay, let's, okay, let's do a scenario. All the power is going to go out. All the hot and cold running water goes out. Everything. of our modern conveniences stop and society is suddenly in the dark.

Yeah. And then you would say, well, when that happens, that's a good, yeah, all bets are off. All bets are off. And it's like, well, what bets? What bets were we doing? I think, I think it's so unstructured and unpredictable that you couldn't even say, I'll bet, I'll bet that guy over there is going to become the crime boss now that there's no electricity in this world. I'll bet that, you know, there is, it is basically like a, a shaking of the, of the ethereal etch-a-sketch-sketch.

Right. All bets are off. Like, who knows what? And maybe it's literal. It's like, okay, so let's look at your degenerate gambling. If you had a bunch of bets in place, or bets in place for, let's say, the fall football season. Right. And then the world loses its mind and it becomes 28 days later or something.

Yeah, yeah. then literally all your bets are off because there's no football. No one cares. No one gives a shit. We're done. Like life is no longer giving you anything to bet on. So you're no longer betting on, oh, I think this person will be president. I think Microsoft will acquire that company.

Like all those bets off. It's less about an actual structured bet and more like, you know, oh, that's a safe bet. You know, like as opposed to an actual physical, I'm putting money down to say this is going to be the outcome. Just like, you know, there's the phrase. Um, uh, oh yeah, no, that's a safe bet. You know, I think, I think, uh, so-and-so is going to be, when they come over, I'm sure they're going to stay for a week. Right. Yeah, that's a safe bet. Yeah. No, you know what? That's a good, that's the good opposite. So, yeah, I think you're right. All bets are off means it's unpredictable. Bets, bets require some prediction, predictability and you don't have it anymore. Right. All right. I don't think it really has to do with actual physical wagers, but more just like, like, like, the, the, the, the predictability of things. Yeah.

Betzer off means you cannot predict a damn thing. All expectations are dashed or something. How does you bet fit into this? Like, hey, you're going to be, are you going to go see a Dune too when it comes in a Oh, you bet. You bet I am. Is that just basically like, like, we're making a wager that I'm going to. Is that what it?

Yeah. Never thought about that. Yeah. Like it's a weird use of bet. It is a weird use of bet. Because you're actually making a guarantee. You're kind of making a guarantee. So if Kim says, we got a shovel.

We got to shovel this snow. It sounds like a sucker's bet. Can you go out and clean the dog poo? And I would say, oh, you bet. Now, does that mean Kim is having wagers or a percentage chance I won't do it? Right. No, it feels like that's a guaranteed outcome. It feels like if you'd be a sucker to go against that bet is basically what it is.

Yeah, I don't know what that is. That's funny that you say. Dr. Calhoun says red on airline. How is any of this a red on airline? How? We haven't had this conversation before. he's talking about he's a red on air light yeah exactly dr calhoun you're a red on air light you're red on air light yeah take that jerk just kidding we love yeah let's see how it uh who's

who's the guy who does that all the time uh chris farley you're a red on air have you heard his uh you know what this might be a fun place to do this real quick the we talked about how he was or did we talk about this here i can't remember but we talk i was talking to somebody about how he did he was shrek until he died and then they had to recap him, and that's when they brought in Mike Myers. I don't know if you knew that. Oh, really? No, I had no idea.

So I didn't either, and I saw this thing. Let's see, Shrek Reed. Let's see if I can find it. Here to the Shrek books. God, it felt like that's something that Mike Myers said, because he always did that voice, whether it was on SNL or so I married an axe murder. Oh, the Scottish thing, yeah, yeah. Well, the original, the plan was no Scottish at all.

It was just going to be Chris Farley doing the thing. He's going to be Matt Foley, basically. Kind of. You're being in a cave down by the river. Here's some of it. Let me play a bit of this. Is it going? Okay, here we go.

It's like there's... Nothing like a fire and a noble romantic mission to warm the cockles of your heart. Yeah. I like my cockles room temperature. Thank you very much. Hey, if you're not doing this for cockle warming, why are you doing it? Simple.

Fartwad gets his princess. I get what I want. Which is? Now, come on. What do you want? I don't have time to set it to music. So I don't know. Wow.

Oh, my gosh. That would have sucked. I love Chris Farley. Yeah. But there is no life to that Shrek. It might not work. And also, you know, he's delivering. I'm not trying to say because I know there's no life to Chris Farley right now.

Oh, I see what you're. There is no. See what you do. There is no. Yeah, it's not what I was trying to indicate. But. Well, so, so the story. story goes like this according to it was I heard this actually oh I know where I saw it it was

um David spade appeared on another show that I listened to and he was talking about this because it was kind of the anniversary of his death and he said of not did let other people talk he did he did I'm sorry really it's just Dana Carvey I think it's Dana Carvey Carson impersonation yeah it's Carvey cutting everybody off I think but anyway he said so they when he died so this is right around the time that he was really struggling drugs wise and When he died, they were going to pay his brother to finish out the lines because he can do a killer impression of him. But his brother, who also does stand up, said, no, he was just too emotional about it. So they were going to go for it.

They were just going to go ahead and use the lines. They liked it. They were happy with it. And then when that happened, Mike Myers, as the story goes, according to Spade, Mike Myers was like, I really want to do the, I can remember now. He really wanted to do the Scottish thing. He had to convince them. really yeah so we did a bunch of lines and stuff which makes sense because i mean you don't look in ogre and say oh yeah i expect i expect to hear them speak in a scottish accent yeah yeah so i don't

know like in an alternate world where all this went through maybe we wouldn't even think twice about it i don't know it's hard to say but seems weird seems weird i will say there's a little bit of a mike mire's uh british thing uh going on with um i'm still watching peep show i'm into the third season which oh my god this this show I really like it but it's torture yeah I've heard it's everyone's saying it's like the best

modern British comedy ever it's so many and I see why but my God it's almost like you say if you had to choose your adventure book and is like okay the woman you like is down the hall

do you if you if you go and say something nice to her go to page 13. If you send her some roses, go to page 43. If you decide to hack into her email and see what she says about you, go to page 75.

And it's what they all, like both characters, both main characters, just pick the worst possible decision to make at every, every possible decision, every choice. I need to watch this. Do you say it was on freebie or something?

It's on, it's on Amazon, prime but it's freebie so you get two commercial breaks and the commercial breaks that i don't mind them yeah they're not bad yeah they're not bad but here's what's irritating they they start a second too early yeah so you get the the joke kind of punchline and it immediately goes to a uh commercial and you come back from the commercial and you get the one second reaction shot of see it like straight face before it before it goes to the next scene so what so so this is interesting and i have a question for british people i don't know if zoe's in our chat or not but do my understanding is when you see this show in the u.k the commercials are

only shown at the before it before the show and then at the end of the show oh really is that no that's typical isn't it or no do i have that wrong i thought they had commercials throughout like we did no i don't know let's see what they say so good question zoe says depends on how long the show is so Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So comedies that were like 20 to 30 minutes. Yeah, okay. So let's say, right, your regular sitcom, yeah, every 15 minutes of Zoe, which is still, that's longer than we get. It is longer than we get.

I just knew they had better standards for that stuff than we did. Yeah. On the BBC, you get none, no commercials. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah, because that's a publicly paid thing. Yeah, so it's like our public access channels kind of thing. Well, it's like PBS here except we're so stingy about that shit.

We make it political. But over there, they're just like, yeah, BBC, we've always paid for us. It's all good. Does BBC have annual pledge drives where if you donate 20 pounds, you get a tote bag? Yeah. Do you put your people through hell as well as what Brian's asking? Exactly. Because good Lord.

I hate those. I'm talking about peep show or whatnot, shit out of luck.com. But yeah, peep show, you got to give it a try. It is, like I said, I'm enjoying it, but my God, it's torture. every single interaction that the main characters have with their loved ones

or bosses it is it's hard to watch sometimes because it's the absolute they do the absolute worst thing they can do at the time

because they're so socially awkward and weird I sometimes have an appetite for that you know what it has to be British I can't do it when it's American

right that's why men behaving badly did well there and did not do well over here is because we don't we're not a master of that the way um the way the british are yeah you guys can make us feel uncomfortable and we can still stick around and not not change channels yeah the the original offices like that there's a lot of examples like that but i don't know what it is because when i when you flip it over like the u.s.

office succeeded not because it kept up what the british office did as far as uncomfortableness it found its own strain of that that was more palestine to us. If they had gone full British uncomfortable, I don't think I could have watched the U.S. office all the way through. But I think they found their own footing and it became culturally less awkward.

Maybe it's more awkward over there. I don't know. It was adjusted for... To work for... Its awkward setting was lowered a seven. Right, to American levels. Yes, exactly. And so awkward for us is what's his name,

dumping chili all over the office entryway. That to us is... Oh, so cringy. That is nothing compared to what these A-holes on Peep Show do. There's also a guy on there that I crack up every time he's on screen, but he's kind of the agent of chaos of these, too, his name is, the character's name is Super Hans. And because of the accent, I thought that for the first couple episodes, first time they mentioned him, thought his name was Super Hands.

Like his hands are super But super Hans Played by a guy named Matt King I'm trying to think if we've seen this guy He feels like a guy that we would have seen in some In something for Matt King Oh there he is

Something for what should we call it for a film sack But no Oh he looks very familiar Yeah Why? Oh Yeah I don't know I saw him in

I've seen two of these movies he's known for Rock and Rolla and Bronson Maybe I remember up from that. There you go. Wow, he's busy. He is. He's a popular busy dude. Voiced voice work, big time film work, TV work.

Wow. Well, good job, Matt King. You're the king of Matt's. Initially, I thought he was Kevin Rowland from lead singer of Desi's Midnight Runners because he's got that look. He sounds like him. He looks like him. Is that Kevin Roland? That'd be funny.

It's just a guy who looks a lot like Kevin Rowland. It's kind of guy where his little. face disappears in his huge hair. Why choose a sleep number smart bed? Can I make my sight softer? Can I make my site firmer? Can we sleep cooler? Sleep number does that.

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Let's talk about herpes. I guess we made some broad assumptions about herpes or something to that effect. But we got somebody who's an actual infectious disease physician in the South. His name is Jesse. And he wrote in and said, Good morning, Scott and Brian. This is for TMS listening to 2858. Jesse could be a girl.

I don't know. I have no idea. I'm Jesse. Jesse's girl or boy. I wish that I had Jesse's girl. An infectious disease physician in the South regarding your conversation about herpes. There are eight human herpes viruses that are, that are, that are causes of cold sores, genital ulcers, shingles, chickenpox, etc. Herpes B virus is specific to the macaque

monkeys or macaque, what do we say? I forget now, again. It was macaque. The macaque monkeys. CDC has a whole page on this. That's herpes B virus. And from what I can tell, there's no herpes A virus. Most of the man. It says most are manageable, but never go. away herpes viruses like diamonds they last forever love the show though jesse uh yeah so when you have my wife gets a cold sore about every six months and it goes away pretty quick but she just gets one my my daughter does that as well when nick was literally got them all the time that's some kind of virus right it is yeah it's it's a version of and it's one of these um yeah the so that there jesse says eight human herpes viruses that all cause of cold so whichever

They didn't go into which version of herpes it is, but I get one, like, if I have a bad cold, if I don't use a breva, the first sign of, like, any sort of, like, oh, there's a tingling in my lip right here. Then, then I get a cold sore right after a cold, like literally during a cold, like the name implies, right? Yeah, right. Like, it's the cold, it's the cold tombstone is what it is. It's like, here lies a cold. in brain's face for two weeks. Rest in peace, cold. Yeah.

I don't, I mean, I don't know that I've ever had one. I'm, maybe a childhood one happened and I have no memory of it, but I've never had an adult cold sore before. And what I wonder about that is, if it's a virus, I would assume it's communicable. And if I live with people who get cold sores, why don't I get them? You know? This is the part they Jesse would have to write back in it on or something, or maybe we'll hear from Tolbert, but I have no idea.

and this is where this is where my and boy this might be an old wife's tale but my guess is if you if you and Kim kissed while she had a cold sore and you had an open wound where she kissed you there's the chance of that spreading okay so you need to have some

it's not just simply like oh I inhaled your sneeze or something it's more than that and I could and that could just be total like somebody somebody in my family said that was the case like oh yeah Brian's got an open cold sore don't

there was there was something else that I was told not to do if I had a cold sore but we won't get into that but yeah free rangers

kiss me on my open wound exactly it's kind of exactly well all right I'm not going to do that I'm going to avoid that if I can

so I this is a great Dr. Tolbert question Yeah, Jesse or Tolbert or anyone in the know, write in, let us know. How do cold sores, do, what version of herpes is a cold sore and how does, how does it spread from person to person? Right. And Claire says, and she's also right, sometimes it's dormant. Oh, gosh.

Sometimes you have no. Actually, that's true. Wow. That was not the thing I was expecting to hear from Claire is actual. Oh, there you go. But there she goes, that I expect. Right there is what I was expecting to hear from Claire. We're not even going to repeat it, but Claire wrote a thing.

And that's exactly what we expect out of her. so now we're back to the level we're not saying it no yeah balance to the force claire good job uh all right we also got a phone call about dropping knives i don't remember the context of this dropping knives thing do you do you remember us dropping i don't even talking about it maybe you cut yourself or i did or wait somebody uh somebody dropped a knife and it landed on their foot or something like that i have a memory too but it's real vague was that a dream i have I can't remember. Yeah.

All right. Let's hear the call. Maybe that will help. All right. Here we go. Hello, Sharp and Bandage. I'm responding to a story on January 9th. Talking about, Brian was talking about his catching the fallen night story again.

Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Okay. Right. It was during, basically in 2020, during the pandemic, I was cleaning some steak knives. The bottle of dishwashing liquid was slipping. I went to catch it and used both hands. One of the hands contained a knife and the blade went into my hand.

That's right. And I had to go during COVID to an urgent care facility with a gaping, bleeding wound. Oh, my God, that hurt. He had to gem so many needles into that. Oh, that's right. I now remember this whole conversation. That's why I don't remember it well because I blocked it out. And stitches in that area.

Did he kiss you on the open wound? He probably didn't. That's bad idea. He didn't because he had herpes. And I said, no, don't do it. it. I don't need your herpes. Yeah, herpetic, Simplex, Doctor 5. All right, here's the rest of the call. Enjoy. Whoops, why isn't it playing? I don't know.

I was listening to this while I was working for my job in a kitchen. And in a kitchen, we are speeding to us to step away and jump back from when you drop your knife, otherwise that happens. But when you actually go to college for this and buy and bring in your own like $70 to $200 knives. You have no idea the emotions that go through those like three seconds of like, oh my God, my knife has fallen, oh my God. And then, oh, my God, stop that because possible hospital bills. It's a very nerve-wracking moment.

Love you guys. Love the show, though. All that, fun stuff. I don't have anything clever. Bye. That's pretty clever. I enjoyed it. Yeah.

Yeah. expensive knives scare me because I don't like I always feel like I'm going to wreck them even just using them normally. It's like can I even cut this bread with this knife or am I doing something wrong? Is this only for meat? So Kim will bring home some

fancy knife and say now nobody put this in the dishwasher hand wash it every time. Don't use it on bread but you can use it on and then I feel all this personal stress about this damn knife I'm never going to use. Every time we shouldn't feel that way about our knives.

That's absolutely right. Sorry. I have got the jumpiest soundboard today. Apologies, everyone. That was annoying. No, I get that. Listen, when I spend, I've got a chef's knife that I absolutely love. This thing is perfectly weighted, and it's Japanese, and it's like, you know, cuts through onions like butter, blah, blah, blah.

I don't want Tristan coming over and using it. to, like, clean the edges off of a Warhammer figure. Like, you know, the mold lines. No, you use something else for that. Do not use my chef's knife to cut the mold lines off of your Warhammer finger. Yeah. As a kid growing up, for my mom, it was her sewing scissors. Oh, yes, yes.

Because when those things get bunged and you try and cut cloth, and all it does is just push the cloth around because you used it to cut a tin can because you saw it on a Ronco commercial. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I got in multiple trouble growing up for that. Not cutting cans necessarily, but it was like I had, you know, construction paper or something for school. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd grab those scissors and my mom would lose her soul. You'd see her soul leave her body. Was it, did she have the scissors that had the zigzag cut to them? She did. We had a pair of those. And those were easy to determine. You know, I'd see those and go, oh, those aren't for me. I know, but you really want to cut construction paper with that, though.

Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. But I was left with this feeling of like, are these multi-million dollars scissors? Why is she so worried? Yeah. Can we not buy new ones? Is there a shortage on these? I could never understand why she was so hardcore about it.

Yeah. I think that was just, I mean, whatever, she grew up in a time, they were a little more tight, so they don't want to waste anything, but also, you know, attend them. They were probably a $10 pair of scissors. $10 bucks in 1985 was probably, what, $30 now? I could see it. Yeah. I could see it.

So pinking shears, those are pinking shires that have, oh, yeah. Pinking shers have the... What's a pinking shear? Those are the scissors that have like a little jaggedy edge. They're called a pinking shear? Yeah, a pinking shir. I don't know. Call them zigzag scissors.

I mean, come on. We have words already for these things. we don't need to come up with something new. We coined it perfectly. Why does the industry not listen to what we have to say? Why use a color to describe a shape? Chad says cut plants. What does that mean?

Cut plants? Can you cut plants with a... Cut plants? Pinky shears? Well, they have... There's a whole new world, dude. There's a flower that's called the pink. Okay.

Does she have short blonde hair and sings a lot? That has... That's right. Raise your glass to this flower. But it has the edges, the edges of the petals have that same zigzaggy shape like pinking shears. So that must mean. Interesting. Yeah.

I know nothing. There's tools in the bathroom space over there that Steve brought out. So I've never even seen some of that stuff in my life. Yeah, I know. It's like, what does that do? I like the people are like, no, Brian, just learn the right word. We do have words for it. It's pinking shears.

Yeah. Learn it. Yeah. But when I describe pinking. shares to Scott, who's unfamiliar, right? I was unfamiliar with until I looked at it. He wouldn't know if I said, you know, zigzag scissors. He knew exactly what I was talking about. I knew exactly what you meant. So why not describe things with words that describe them? You know what? It's English is a very fluid language. We've got a lot of weird aspects to it.

It allows us to kind of tweak it out and say stuff that, so that others know what we mean when we don't exactly know the perfect little book term for it. Exactly. Exactly. So take that everyone else. Take that. We got a phone call here also about long commutes, and we may as well hear him out. Here it is. Hi, guys. Colin about yesterday's discussion of long commutes on the morning stream. I have an acquaintance who works at a university in Worcester and commutes from his home in Albany,

Worcester, Massachusetts, and Albany, New York. So if you want to do the math on that, that's about two and a quarter hours each way, directly into the sun each way. That sounds bad. Horrendous. Yeah, exactly. Directly into the sun each way. Each way, because, yeah, he's going east when the sun's coming up and going west when the

sun's coming down. Oh, my gosh. See, I just don't think anybody should have to drive two and a half hours for a job every day and one way and then another way back at night unless they are paying you exorbitant amounts of money. Like, if you're getting paid, I don't know, whatever. is you're getting paid for this and you're getting paid not extra but just a lot so that it's worth it for you to spend four i'm sorry two and a half hours that's five hours of travel a day

five hours a day holy shit insane yeah sign me uh bull man forget it maybe move closer to work and move to the opposite side of your your your office from where you are now so that the sun will be behind you in both cases yeah and also it doesn't It doesn't sound like that area is going to be low traffic either. It's going to be a bunch of traffic. If this is some country road, maybe I could do it for five and a half. But with people packed in like that, like one of these days, you have a high percentage chance that you're going to have to poop in your car. Very high percent.

Do you know what I mean? Like, this will rarely happen to any of us because we're never on the road for that much. Of course, that is going to be, I'm not surprised that that is where your mind goes is, yeah, it's a. You're going to have to. You're going to have to poop in your car. Eventually you will. You will just have one of those days. days because everyone has those days occasionally and you have higher chance because you're in that

car so much that you're going to have to poop and i wish you i wish you luck and well luck with good luck with the pooping in your car yeah hope it goes well for you uh don't forget to bring a towel yeah uh speaking of bringing towels uh we're going to vegas soon and you got some updates what's going on updates yeah so um uh locked everything down we still we're still waiting on um uh a room code but The contract is back in the hands of the plaza signed, so they just have to sign it. We are so good with everything else. Don't worry. You don't need to be impatient for a code.

The rooms will be there. This is the plaza. We're not talking about a Taylor Swift concert. We're talking about weekdays in late April at the plaza on Fribon Street, downtown Las Vegas. Sure. That said, I'm hoping that things get back to me quick. But now that we've got that, VivaTMSVegas.com is the website where you can go and see the schedule. I've already got a bunch of things already up there.

All the official events, a couple unofficial events. We've got two, we've got a couple things. Karaoke we're doing Monday night. September is heading that up, so we're getting some information on that. There's a thing happening on Tuesday night that is going to be awesome. I'm waiting for details on that. There's a nice little countdown that tells you how many days, hours, minutes, et cetera, until... Really, it's until that Monday morning.

What else? There's sign-ups for the video game tournament. Hop in there. Make sure you give me your phone number so that we can text you in case we need to find you at the bar that night. That was the biggest bottleneck. me had to deal with all that. The biggest bottleneck for the tournament was people would disappear 10 minutes before it was their time to play asteroids.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that didn't work out great. It didn't work out great. So now we're going to have, I'm going to see about getting, you remember they had those tables there with vendors. There was somebody selling like 3D printed Pokemon stuff. Oh, yeah, they had a whole, a couple tables there that night. Yeah, exactly.

So I'm going to see if we can get one of those tables. There's a board game sign-up sheet, big things. to Bobby and Ducey for setting that up. That'd be in VivaTMSVagas.com as well, links to it. Viva, all that stuff is at VivaTMSVegas.com. Zoe is taking care of a Bacon Nation breakfast on Tuesday morning. And a bunch of people are getting inked, getting drawn on while they're in Vegas. And Amy is also helping with that.

So in the Discord DM Red Fraggle 3, or just go to the TMS Vegas. Discord and find her there and DMR. I'll have a link on the VivaTMS.VivaTMS Vegas.com site for where people can reach out to her. Because what we're trying to do is make it easy so that nobody has to show up to Vegas and say, oh, I want to get a tattoo, and there are no slots available. Right, right. And Amy is going to really help facilitate a lot of that. And if I can get off my butt.

I was going to say, for a few, you shy people who are thinking of coming this year, You're like, I've always wanted to go. I haven't gone yet. This isn't mandatory that you get a tattoo. Oh God, no, no, no, yeah. We're not saying, all of these are just activities that people can opt into. It's not like it's a, you don't have to play video games in the video game tournament, although it is the most laid back tournament makes it sound like it's a lot more than it is. Seriously, you're playing elevator action against Claire or somebody like that.

It's nothing. Yeah, with a broken left stick sometimes. Right, exactly. it's all for fun karaoke you know is optional you don't have to sing you can go and just watch people or be a background vocalist or whatever uh board games that's going to be fun but yeah all that stuff and um my gosh we got to really throw out some things to uh svet she and i were talking last night and getting things squared away with the sand dollar and um she is you know svet and bad moon booking she is just so good at talking people and arranging stuff and getting

getting all that happening so she rocks love she does i could not do that part of things uh without her and james's help so i thanked her profusely over over the phone last night but i'm gonna thank her live on the show um all right so what else we got uh tourney registration board game tattoo do i have anything else in this list um i like the sound of board game tattoo sounds board game tattoos i mean whole other activity a whole different if i can get off my button finished it, I'll get my tattoo while we're in Vegas, too. I'm designed to say urnament on the site.

Urnament. Yurnament. Yeah. It does say yornament. Yurnament. Welcome to the yearniment. A video game, a yearnment. Whatever.

Yeah. Everyone's always, so if any of you get there and you're like, hey, Scott, I'll do this again. I did it for Claire. If anyone wants a quick doodle to then base a tattoo on, I'll do it there live if you want it yeah i'm not getting a tattoo but i'll give you i'll help you help you come up with the drawing if you want one you just let me know and i would like somebody to volunteer to take me to uh du paris for pancakes um whatever mornings we're not doing on on one of the

mornings that we're not doing uh um bacon nation because those are the best pancakes in the world and uh if you disagree uh i'll fight you yeah i don't but it's but it's far away from it's far away from downtown. It's a 20 minute drive from downtown. I feel like it's a proven fact, though, that DePars is the best pancakes in town. It absolutely is like, I think Barry's probably going to rent a car. And I let, when we were out there, um, last year for like a post, basically it was Tanner and Alex's makeup, um, TMS Vegas with Tristan. It was really just basically our D&D group. We went out to DePars and I think everybody gave their pancakes a, uh, raving thumbs up.

Yeah, they're renown for this. Hey, real quick, Carter, if someone at TMS Vegas asks you to make a tattoo, like a quick drawing for a tattoo there, would you do it? Sure, she says. So she'll do it too. If you like Carter's style, she could... I have, like, the pressure I could... I would not want to take that on.

Like, hey, here's something that's going to be permanently on your body. Would you like to draw it? Yeah. No, thanks. I do not want that pressure. Thank you. I don't know. It's weird. It used to be such a, it feels so permanent back in the day, but even now, it's starting to feel less permanent. The older you get, it is less permanent. It's like, well, one day, this is just going to die. And this won't be here. Well, anyway, there you go. There's your update. TMS or VATMSVAS Vegas.com for all your newest details, everybody.

There probably will be another Sunday night attack of the high roller wheel on the strip, the bar car basically, seeing if we can take over a bar car with. some poor unsuspecting rando couple that is in there stuck with a bunch of tadpoolers like we did last year. Sure. And then a hop over to Cosmo for some verbenas for those people who haven't had verbenas. So maybe I need to add a fourth day just to the unofficial schedule of events and say Sunday, this timeish, high roller kind of thing. Yeah.

And we're not 100% locked in on the pyramid scheme is what I'll call it because I don't want to give anything away but you know what I'm talking about the potential uh are we locked in on that I think I think we're locked in on that whether or not we get a deal on it okay I'm hoping we get a deal on it but that will be we are doing that then yeah I think that's a that feels like a perfect for tadpool no it's perfect and I really like that casino so I'd really like to get a discount a group discount but I but if we don't get a discount then I think we still do it all right well details on that coming up as well everybody yes it's very exciting no one will ever figure out what you meant by your clue my pyramid scheme yeah geez what at least know they might at least figure out the casino

yeah you might know which which uh zone of the uh strip we're talking about exactly um all right well well done that's awesome let's get a little oh you know what we don't have time for news we have time for one piece of news let's do one news all right okay one news and then we'll get windy in here you go Today's single news story is brought to you by. Coverville today at noon, 12 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.TV slash coverville. Three cover stories for you today because really not enough material to do full-on episodes for any of the three of these. But Alia, who died but would have been 45 this month, Roxette, Per Gessel, the dude in Roxette is turning 65 this month. And sadly, we lost Marie.

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Geez, I would have thought that after six years, he just would have been dust in the wind. Right? Oh, I get what you did there with the Kansas reference. That's good. I haven't heard Kansas in years. I should listen to Kansas. I should just listen to that album. Point in no return is such a great album. It's such a great album. and the rest of it's not great. The rest of it's not great. The rest of their work is all kind of but that album's amazing. Anyway, Kansas couple has been charged with fraudulently collecting more than

$215,000 in retirement benefits on behalf of a dead relative while they concealed his body inside their home for six years. Authorities say Mike Carroll's pacemaker showed that he died in 2016 at the age of 81. I didn't know they could pinpoint times on those things. Yeah, I guess it's an interesting thing. Like it logs the date that, stopped making pace? I mean, are they wireless?

I probably are. Are they probably Bluetooth or something? I don't know what they do. I don't know. I don't know what modern, you know, a 2016 pacemaker does. But it would have to have some sort of little battery backup in there for storage, right? Like when the main battery runs out,

it's got a little thing that says, I stopped working on this date at this time. Can you still not, back in the day, was the whole thing where you couldn't walk into, or be near a microwave or something? Is that still true? I don't know if that's still the case.

I don't know if that's still true. Well, anyway, this couple, they're both 61. They're the Ritters, Lynn and Kirk Ritter, continued depositing and spending his bank account money, even when the body became mummified on a bed in the home. How did that work? How'd you get mummified? That feels like it's mummified, how?

That has to be a lack of air. It has to be like in a vacuum almost to be mummified without ice. Right? Right. Because otherwise you just, you uh how does that work you just desicate right is if that's the because you just dry if it's warm and dry yeah but it has to also you got to have because if you have to have a situation where bacteria can't do its job right right so that you wouldn't rock or whatever but i think you still

the stuff that bacteria doesn't get still shrivels up and you come become like a little like beef jerky kind of thing yeah which i guess is the mumification thing. But anyway, that's just weird to me. I mean, they didn't wrap him in bandages or anything. No, no. But they made a bunch of money from this and kept the guy in a room and they sound like weird people. I never want to be around ever.

So I will not. I will not be No, exactly. I will not be seeking these people out. Okay. We're going to take a break when we come back. My sister Wendy will be here. We got an email we're going to respond to. It's a good one. Yeah. She's coming to Vegas, everybody. Come see Wendy.

Anyway, we'll get to that in a second. We need a though do you have one uh we do yes i want to play uh robotron against wendy when she comes to Vegas that's my i'm gonna i'm gonna uh i'm gonna uh rejigger the uh the tournament bracket so that i end up playing robotron against wendy oh my gosh that would be i don't know why robotron what is it what's the famous voice line of robotron um the intruder oh yeah no that's a berserk oh that's berserk oh that's berserk what am i thinking of there is a line though isn't there maybe i'm thinking can have intruder alert intruder alert yeah whatever it is anyway i don't know you're the one who does uh play retro you'd think i'd know we even did a whole episode on that game so by the way

there is a uh not that i want to give this person any uh any publicity but there is a retro gaming show on youtube called game sac and oh goodness i think we need to get the lawyers out yeah let's you know what let's dust them off just send a cease and desist test the water yeah what's going to get it going. Bastards. This is, from the publicity, this is a woman named Asha Jeffries. She has a brand new debut album called Ego Ride

with a euphoric queer anthem called Brand New Bitch. I'm reading this all verbatim, folks. Sure. But this is great. This is a great song. So I'm not, I am certainly not throwing any negativity in this. I love this. There's so much positivity.

She's from Brisbane, Australia. and this is so good. This is the first single. The whole album's coming out April 12th, but the first single, brand new bitch, is out now. Here is Asha Jeffreys. I lost feeling in my feet. Four years ago.

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A brand new beach, off you go. I just want to be a brown new bitch this evening. I just want to be a brown new bitch this evening. I just want to be a brand new bitch this evening. I just want to be a brand new bitch this evening. I just want to be in love who you see it and I just want to be in it. I just want to be in love to be in.

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The original machine had a baseplate of prefamulated amulite. surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in a direct line with a panometric fam. The latter consisted simply of six hydro-coptic marvellines, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar wane shaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. Quick as a wink, you're in the pink. And we've returned. Who was that again? That was Asha Jeffreys from Brisbane, Australia, and a brand new song called Brand New Bitch from her upcoming album, Ego Trip. I'm sorry, Ego Ride coming out on April 12th. Ego Ride. That's a cool name. I like that name a lot.

I'll explain the situation to Wendy. Don't worry. Oh, my goodness. It's Wendy Dunford, my sister, all the way from Minnesota, where I assume they finally got. cold, right? Nope. What? Nope. It's not cold, huh? What the heck, man?

And it's like going to be 45, 50 degrees next week. What the heck? What's going on? I don't, I don't know, but I'm moving. I can't take it. I can't believe. And everyone that has this like mix of feeling guilty for being happy that it's warm because it's not okay.

Yeah. But then we're also like, it's bad. Is it imposter syndrome like? Like, what is it? There's a, I'm sure there's some sort of regular malady you can correlate it to that normally happens with that, right? Like, you feel guilty because you're enjoying something that you don't usually get this day here. And everyone's mood's a little lighter, but then they're also like, oh, no. And then there's so many diehards who's ice fish and they don't care.

And so they just keep getting, needing to be rescued. Yeah, because they're all right through the ice. Oh, wait, so there's still a place you can ice fish. It's just not... They're thin ice fishing and people are furious because people make such dumb choices and you've got to rescue. Anyway, it's just, I hate it. Do you guys have...

No, it's 50 some degrees right now. Yeah, it's going to be like 50 for us today or close to it, 48, something like that. I don't know what's going on. But that is not unheard of where you guys live. This is insane. Yeah, for you guys, it does seem a little weirder. And we did get a ton of snow and then really, cold weather, you know, refused to melt, then new snow on top of that. So we had like

a run there. But for some reason, within a week, it all melted and got warm. And I don't like it. Yeah. Because you are living in a high altitude desert people. I forget, I don't know if you know this. Yeah. No, I'm familiar. Familiar with the whole thing. And you at least get more oxygen where you live. So that's good. We definitely get more oxygen. Here's the thing. I'm just worn on everyone. I love talking about the weather now. Do you? Really? It's an age thing. It's not like a fallback small talk thing. It's like, oh my gosh, I love it. And so whenever my clients are like, I just love it.

What do your clients do? They just pipe up and go. They'll be like, oh, country or look snowing. I'm like, all right, let's do it. Let's spend five minutes talking about it. I just think it's very, it's unifying. I used to observe like, when we were growing up, I'd observe an old person doing that and thinking,

I know, I'm never going to do that. I suddenly liked birds, and now I talk about the weather. Yeah. Yeah, or you suddenly don't trust birds and you talk about the weather. Either one. They totally fit. Oh, you got two choices. There's some people who think they're, you know, some people think birds are drones and the government is spying on us.

Oh, stop. You think I'm kidding. There's a real, there's a real conspiracy theory about that. And some people believe it. It's like flat earth-level stuff. It's all bull crap. Well, anyway, we're not going to talk about that today. Instead, we're going to talk about an email that we got.

And Wendy gave me the thumbs up on this yesterday. So I think we're going to go ahead and read this. I like this one a lot. Yeah, that's interesting. It feels like it's, I don't know, in the wheelhouse of our listenership, let's say that. It really is, yeah. And what's cool is it's in the wheelhouse, but it could also apply to things outside the wheelhouse of listenership. Yeah, absolutely.

You could replace video games with anything and have it be about other people. This could be golfing. This could be anything, really. This could be poker on the weekend. Then ice fishing. Yeah. Nice fishing. Exactly. Get the rescue plane ready. Here we go. This is what this person says. I'm not going to use their name. Me and my fiancee both play video games together to where we try to find new ones to play every few months or revisit old ones that we've liked. With most of the games though, she seems to not really pay attention to them to where she knows how to play them and that's enough for her because it means she gets to spend time with me doing something I enjoy too, which makes me happy because I feel like she's trying. And in return, I try to like the things she shows me.

and try to get into them with all the attention I show things that interest me. I've spoke to her about how I would like her to get into the games more in different ways. I try to entice her with interesting stories or play games that appeal to her. But at some level, it always feels like I am picking up slack and that stresses me out, since I'd like to enjoy the time I spend with her while screaming in my head, quote, no, don't press that, unquote. but wanting her to sometimes learn and give the opportunity to fail before I try and help. We've talked about this a few times and I feel weird for it even being something that I let stress me out.

She just said that she can occupy her time while I game, but sometimes it feels like she just is waiting for me to be done and it makes me feel like I have to entertain her. And she says I don't, but if I don't, then she's literally, she will just literally stare at the wall and it says literally again until I'm done. It's not passive aggression. It's just how she is, and I don't want my gaming to become something she dislikes. If I imply we can't game together if it stresses me out.

Added info. We live together in one room in a house and spend most of our time there. We plan outings and try to get out so we don't go crazy. And plan on getting out once the market is better and just allows us, this just allows us to save. I work. She doesn't. uh so that's the entirety of it uh so uh he's got his lead it's the summation here is he's got

this leisure time thing he loves doing and she's not her puzzle piece isn't perfectly fitting with the stuff he likes and it seems like he's trying to make not make that puzzle fit but it's you know letting it get to him to the point where he's not even enjoying himself because she either looks bored or she's not as into it as he is like these are all the feelings i'm getting from this so Wendy, what do you want to do and where do we want to go here with this one? Well, I must miss that last paragraph when I read it. Yeah. That they live together in a single room.

Yes. And they're left there all day. Oh, heaven's that. That sounds hard on its own whole other, whole other, whole other episode, whole other session probably on that. Right. Right, right, right. Okay. So why doesn't she work?

That's my question. My other question is, like, what if you just believed her that she's cool? She doesn't care. You can do what you want. Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that she's just staring at the wall probably worries them that, you know, that, you know, who worry me? It's like, oh, are you really, is it really cool? Because you're not doing anything that entertains you while I'm doing this.

Well, plus you're stuck in a room, it sounds like, where you're not anywhere else in the house and you barely leave that room. maybe all there is to do if you're not directly engaging to what he's doing is stare at the wall. You know? Yeah. Like maybe there's, you could read a book or a million other things maybe,

but it sounds, I feel like that last paragraph's important in a way that we have to make sure to address. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's adding to this. Yeah. Exactly.

Because it all of a sudden then becomes less about, all right, well, she's cool with it. I'm going to do my thing. do her thing, but you're in the same room. Obviously, she's not doing her own thing while you do your thing. Yeah. And what I mean by believing her is like, yeah, have the discussion. But also maybe there's just like a bit of a conversation about, well, we don't have

information how long they've been together, you know, because that might make a difference too, right? If this is a fairly new relationship, you're still kind of really worried what the other person's thinking and feeling. But if they've been together for a while, you know, that might shift things. But, you know, what is she actually thinking? Like, have a conversation like that. I understand this person really loves video games, wants their partner to engage at a level that means they can just thoroughly enjoy the video game without having to worry about them because that person's into it. Like a friend, right? A friend you play video games with, you would not be wondering, are they okay?

because they're clearly there for the game, right? Maybe she just is not interested in games in the same way. And what's okay about that? And then what's not okay about that? So you two are both partnered with people who do not love video games as much as you do. Or I don't know, it's that true. That is true.

That's true. So how in the world are you making this work? You're not living in one room. No, no. That would make a big difference. Like, I'm just visualizing if we were, like, if our living room bedroom like everything was all one room

I would definitely not play as many video games and I barely play any video games as it is but it would really be more of like what what things do we both

enjoy equally that visually we both see that we both get the same amount of enjoyment from what would we be doing either you know watching a movie or cooking or something that we both, it just, that does add such a difficult wrinkle to it.

Yeah. Like the idea of Kim, not that she doesn't ever do this. Like if it's like we're on the couch or something and I'm playing something, sometimes she'll sit and watch. But the idea of her having to sit in a closed space and not be able to go anywhere and just stare at what I'm doing, that just seems insane to me. So I understand his desire to want to get her more involved in playing. Yeah. And that makes sense. Like, let's do this together. It's just that you've got two different people with two different, two different motivation levels coming at the same thing. And that's probably going to just seem off to you because you don't have the perfect play partner or whatever. But in the case of Kim, she doesn't really care to play much of anything. Occasionally, we'll, you know, do some family couch party thing where we've got five controllers and there's a reason to have us all in the same room. But that's more about the experience.

of that, you know, social interaction and the kids being there and everything else. So for her to just sit down and, let's say, play Assassin's Creed or something, it's never going to do it. It's just not in Kim's Wheelhouse. But she has always, she's always been really supportive of that in the same way I'm supportive of her stuff. But we also don't just live in the same room and never leave it. Right. You're not watching Kim cook all day and having her be like, oh, oh, measure that better.

Yeah. Right. Oh, use the other measuring cup. Yeah, yeah. No, you're not wrong. They kick me out of the kitchen, both her and Carter. They're like, get out of here. Right. We got this. Because you don't, you're not, you're not good at that game. And so, okay, well, before I, I mean, when I read this earlier, I must have missed that last paragraph because I was just like, okay, well, number one, let's do other things. Well, now that I know they're kind of trapped together. He also sent, he sent me some additional data that I just, I didn't know, I didn't know about until just now. I just went and searched for his name thinking maybe I've got other stuff from him. And there was an original mail here. that was just some more details. Like he's 33, so there's a, there's a,

I don't know if it's helpful or not, but he's 33. They're living, let's see, okay, they're engaged. So girlfriend of two years, recently got engaged. Let's see, her mother is a paranoid schizophrenic, and they're living in her basement. Oh, funny. Okay, so probably also some, some parent care going on there. Oh, I got to, you know what, I'm sorry, and we flip it around.

They're living in his mom's house. Her mother lives in an apartment somewhere and is a paranoid schizophrenic. Sorry, I didn't mean all. Okay. My bad. I've read that wrong. And then, let's see, his dad passed away in October of 2022 suddenly. So they're dealing with that.

And then let's see. Is there anything else of note? I think that might be it. So engage, 33 years old, living in the basement of his moms while they save for a place with their own. That's where that's. Got it. Yep. And I think they're in the chat room too. So they can answer any questions. Yes. Oh, good. Okay. Cool. Well, okay. So one question, well, you know, how long does this take? That's hard. Everything takes longer than you think. But maybe the idea here that might be helpful is to think about, especially new relationships and you're engaged. You're going to start your life, hopefully, right? There's, It's just figuring out how each other works and working to accept some of those differences, right?

Because when you're newly together, you do a lot of things together. When I read this email, my first thought was this couple I worked with years and years ago. They came in, they'd been married for a long time. I had a couple kids who were grown and they were really struggling to stay together. And as I was like digging through, you know, what the deal was and how they met, But they, she is a, wants to live in the center of New York City and go to operas. That is who she is. And he was a backcountry rescue ski guy and a like mountaineer.

Wow. And they settled somewhere in the suburbs in the middle to try, you know, to raise a family. But both were constantly craving the thing they loved. And when they, and when we finally figured it out and I said, so, you know, when you guys were dating, what were you thinking? And he's like, she went camping with me all the time. And she said, he went to the opera with me all the time. I was like, oh, guys, you know what that is?

That's called being nice. It's like you want to do the thing. Yeah, you want to do the thing because you want to be with the person. Yes. And so I am looking at this, fiance, she just wants to be with him. It sounds like, right? It sounds like that's the case, right? She's like, oh, you like video games?

I'm not too into them, but I like being with you. And so let's play whatever. So I am wondering this. And this is coming from an experience the other day. When my son was home from college and the three boys just had lots of screaming video game time, right? Yeah. They invited me to play Mortal Kombat. Great.

Can we just discuss how unbelievably disgusting mortal combat is? Oh, no. I remember as a kid. Yeah. I cannot. I cannot. But I also was just in the middle of playing with them, and I'm way better than them because I have been playing Mortal Kombat since I was fine. I can play Mortal Kombat in my sleep. Here's the thing. The original Mortal Kombat was incredibly controversial at the time, but it's nothing compared to this. I can't. Like the fatalities, the fatalities in this game, which is really all we're talking about here is the finishing moves. That stuff is insanely creative ways of killing people. and stuff you cannot imagine

and they're so good at it now that I can't believe it doesn't come. I can't believe there aren't 50 politicians yelling constantly about it. Yeah, well, I get other things they're not doing. Is it because back in the day, those were way outside the norm and now that's kind of the norm

and now we've got to worry about, you know, barbarians doing it in a hot tub kind of game, you know, hot coffee mods and things like, I know that's also a 20-year-old reference but you know what I mean yeah no I don't know if it's just that they've gotten worse or just whatever they politicians go after the shiny thing and right now it's not a shiny thing so it's not shiny well let me tell you this I played with them and I was so grossed out but also I was winning

so I couldn't help it and we kept going and and they were laughing and they couldn't believe I was watching it and the whole time I was just like hot what I can't this is so gross so then two days go by they're playing again Adam walks downstairs and he is not not an angry dad dude ever. Yeah. But he's like, absolutely not. You will not play this. He was furious.

Like, this is beyond. Yeah. I cannot believe you would. And then the L3 threw me so hard under the bus. They go, well, we played with mom. Mom said it was okay. You little, shut up. Anyway, so I got caught not being a good, a good, a good,

parents. But anyway, he brought the hammer down. Anyway, my point is, I was there for the people. I was not there for Mortal Kombat, right? So I did that because I wanted to spend time with my boys and it was so fun to watch them laughing and having a good time, right? Right. That is a thing. You can enjoy someone else's enjoyment, right? But if you're going to make me play Mortal Kombat every day, because you love it so much, we're not going to, that's not going to work long term. Right. So here's my, here's my suggestion. And you guys throw. on what you think here. Sure.

What if there's just a game they play together that's fun? And then you stop making her try to play all your other games. Like, what does she? If she likes Tetris, do the Tetris together and then go off and do your own game while she reads a book or something like that. Yeah. And then trust her and even have this kind of conversation with her.

Like, hey, guess what? We're going to start building their life and a relationship. And maybe we should talk about let's not mind read. How about that, right? And so I'm not, if you tell me you're okay, I'm going to believe you. And if you feel bad because suddenly I'm just playing all these other games and whatever, then you aren't telling me the truth. You need to then come tell me, right?

So starting that honesty interaction about taking everything seriously, taking everything, there's kind of a little game I'll sometimes play with couples, that everything is face value when you say it. We just try that for a little while. No hints, no guessing, no mind reading, no passive aggression, nothing like that, right? You just say it. So if you're like, what do you want for dinner? I want chicken.

Well, I don't. Okay. Instead of saying, yeah, all right, chicken sounds good. Or you just take it as 100% face value and just watch what happens. It's pretty funny to do this with couples who don't do that. You need complete and total amnesty. Like it needs to be agreed that. I can, I can say that, yeah, I'm not really a fanier spaghetti, the way you make it or whatever.

It'd be like, okay, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe I mean this less in feedback that way and more in hinting to what you want or don't want, right? Or trying to just keep the other person happy, but you're actually miserable, right? And so if you could have this, they could have this conversation about games. She may just, she wants, he probably wants. to be with a gamer. Let's just say that seems to be what's happening.

She's probably not a gamer. And he's trying to turn her into a gamer. I mean, not maliciously, right, exactly, yes. But like, let's connect. This is fun for me. I want you to like what I like. It's taking her camping and thinking, oh, she'll be into it. And she's just there for you. And then you're going to the opera wanting to screen. It's not your favorite place either. Before we saw him in the chat room, I was thinking, oh, I wonder if Tina wrote this in. And she's really replacing board games with video games and saying, yeah, Brian makes me play these board games that have the, well, basically it's the scout rulebook.

It's like these rulebooks that are the thickness of my pinky finger. Yeah. And, oh, no, you can't play that chip on this card because that is a power card. And this needs to be played on a grass card or something like that. Oh, my gosh, I fell asleep right now. What am I saying? Exactly, exactly. I'm not the only Johnson that hates long rules and board games.

I can't, you can't even talk. I'm like, just let's start playing. We'll figure it out. No, you know what? That's funny. Gina says that exact phrase. Same thing. Play a game.

We'll learn as we go. That's how every time. Yeah. I learned by doing. That helps. How will you know which character to pick? If you don't know which aspect, you want to be stronger in. Right.

Listen, I win every game I play the first time. I never win the second time. And I think it's because no strategy is the best strategy. It's beginner's luck. And then I'm like, cool, I'm done. I will play one, maybe two. I'll lose a second and then I'm done. But here's the thing.

Everyone's different. Yeah. And you've got to just believe her and find out maybe what she needs. Okay. Throwing in that her mother is paranoid schizophrenic. is quite a whopper there at the end, right? Which is, what is

her style in life because she has managed a mother who has been unwell? Okay? And it might be, don't make any waves, don't make any noise, don't have too many opinions.

Okay? That's very possible. So your job here might not be trying to force her to play games so that you can see that she's having fun. Maybe the job is more,

hey, let's, let's be gentle as we figure this out and how we work together and let's communicate better and be honest with what we're feeling because she's probably learning some stuff in a relationship that is going to have to undo some of the other learning that she's had that would be just my guess I don't have enough information truly but there is maybe a staring at the wall as been a thing that I have learned to do yeah it might be a coping mechanism or a right right and so your concern might not actually be just about this game it might be okay i just like the resentment i don't

want her to resent me i don't want her to be secretly thinking something else or um i don't i but it's stressing him out so trust that what are you stressing out about if you're just not sure you understand what's what she's doing because you would never do that clearly you would not stare at wall while someone's playing a game you would be into it and that's just you have different brains you have different interests and that's okay if i have ever i mean i've probably met a thousand couples never once have i thought wow you guys are similar never once i've always thought oh look at your opposites that's right yeah no because i think we need if we end up with somebody who's just basically a clone of ourselves it it feels like that just could get right so boring and dull

and you need those differences and you'd be in trouble there would like not be enough food or the dishes won't get done stuff like that you need a balance right you you Exactly, yes, you need somebody who counters your weaknesses or your, yeah, yeah, exactly. So to make it really simple, I would find one game, the two of you can play, and I would also, I don't know why she's not working, but she definitely needs some things that are her own, which I am going to make a real leap here, might be related to her mother as well, of just happy to do whatever. right um because it's and probably maybe doesn't know what she wants doesn't know that she can have a hobby or something else or because he didn't say anything about this but it's not like she's like well let's do my thing right it sounds like she's doesn't got a thing she's just down to do everyone that to make sure she's happy yeah and you can see it's out of love and concern and if we change

from game to golf or any other thing um you know the same stuff kind of applies But we get kind of blinders on with our own stuff we really like because we already like it. And so we want someone to see us and know us and get us and other gamers will get you. And your partner's probably not going to be a gamer. So you've got to find other ways that that connection thrives. And then still you can have a fun game you do together. So you get that it scratched and, you know, she's happy to do it. But you're, I don't know, maybe not trying to make my husband play.

Play Mortal Kombat. Yeah, I wish there was footage of you doing this. I want to see you play. Oh, it was so bad. And you should have seen my face when they're all throwing me under the bus. I was like, are you kidding? I gave birth to you. You're telling on me I'm a grown-up.

What is happening? I will say this, though. I have very specific memories of playing MK1 and MK2 on a Genesis or something. Back in the day at a family thing, that would have been like 93 or 4. and you would you were good like wendy would pick up a controller and rock us she'd make matt and i look bad so it doesn't surprise me a that you were doing well or b that you've shocked about how far it's come in terms of fatalities it's unreal no it's amazing there are compilations on youtube for example that are just like i cannot believe on one hand i'm like that's really

creative what you just did there like what you how you dispatch that character is comically insanely like, I've never even seen a horror movie try that. I don't know how you did it. And so on the one hand, I'm like impressed. And on the other hand, I'm like, oh, my gosh, who is. Are you okay? Who is in charge of it? Yeah, who's, like, what are the meetings like over at that company?

It's not bad enough. I need to feel, I want to vomit in my mouth. Make it worse. Yeah, make it worse than that, please. All right, everyone's doing great. See it at lunch. Like, what a weird thing. Anyway, good luck, Nether Realm.

So, all right. Well, I know you've got kind of a heart out today, But I think that, is there anything else you want to add to that to make us, you know, give this guy the right path to head on? I mean, kind of what I'm saying of just like communicate more. I mean, maybe the old adage of overcommunicate, as I like to say, would be appropriate to just kind of navigate this. And get out of that room more. Like, this cannot, that cannot be good for you. He says that they plan outings and try to get out so they don't go too crazy.

But maybe as much as you can, just to give yourself bigger environments to kind of be yourselves in as opposed to, you know, feeling like you're in a cell all the time. Yes. And if her world is just you in that room, I mean, I'd be concerned about that. And there's probably some reasons there that maybe go deeper and you need some more help with that. But like get a hobby, have a thing she does separate from this. And, you know, and even if you're both just going on a walk every day, you've seen those memes where it's like, it's an eagle walking, very grumpily saying, going on my stupid mental health walk today. I was just like, do it, especially in January, just go on, make some regular habits that are more ritual based. That'll help you keep saying, like, you walk every night after dinner or you, you know, and then you, whatever games you're playing, just kind of think of this. is a good, interesting first test of the relationship? Well, the first test is you're living in your mom's

one room. That's your first test. That's a real test. Your second test being like, how do you navigate this and build connection in ways that works for both of you? And the only final thing I would say about him getting upset,

like I loved his line while screaming in my head, no, don't press that. And maybe all you all can talk about what is, what's that's like to play with people who aren't as good as you at something you really care about, but you got to recognize that's just not probably ever going to be. And so maybe changing your expectation of what this is might go a long way. Like this is Kim playing a game with us every once in a while and not, you know, Tina who's so into board games. Yeah. And here's how we cross

that divide sometimes. Kim will be really into a British, uh, detective series she found, which for whatever reason, the one she's into isn't really interesting me. So I pull out a steam deck or a switch or something and I play a game. And I'm occasionally glancing up and going, no, wait a minute. Is that guy married to her? Is that why he murdered whatever? And she'll say, yeah. Does she love that? She doesn't mind because we're just talking, chatting. And then she'll do the same thing. She'll lean over and go, who's that? I go, oh, that's the sub boss. I got a beat before I can go further. Like, we have kind of those conversations sometimes and there are just these moments of do I really care that much about these people on

screen? Not really. Does she really care about the sub boss have to beat before I go to the final layer or whatever? No. But there's these little interactions that just say, you're enjoying your thing. That's cool. And I like what you're doing. And here we are together. And I'd hold your hand if I didn't need both hands to play this game. Right. Right. And tell me how long you all been married? 31 year. Wait. I mean, 32 is it now? 32 years here, yeah. Will it be 32 this year?

32 years this year. It'd be easy. Yeah. Yeah, which is, you earn this with the hard work of relationship building, right? And you don't get to just skip to that. You really do earn it, right? And that's, it's why it's so cute, right? Whenever we see people who've been together a long time and they really are still really sweet and love each other,

it's because they had to fight to figure that out. And so that's just where you're at. I think sometimes developmentally, we don't understand the ages very well as humans. We just assume we should be a thing. Right. Or why is this broken or wrong? When really, it's developmentally normal to not know what you're doing yet. Right.

And building on that and getting to a place where you're comfortable. My suspicion here, though, is just it's not just that I want her to play games. It's that I want to make sure she's okay and I can't tell if she's okay. and that's that's important to figure out right how do you communicate that how do you know she is okay how does she know she's okay so i mean if i met them i would say many of the things i've said but i would really be working on like making sure she's all right with how she has been raised and what she's dealing with um does she need more support and how can she expand her support in a way that might be healthy for her and so you know there's growth and

things to do and try and by communicating and it's not going to be and i don't know if i'm saying this is not fair but it's not one conversation ever um right like and and always be aware of this this is actually a really good analogy always be aware of this you may think you're talking about video games you're actually talking about something else um you're talking about the process or you're talking about the needs or you're talking about um other other things sometimes the subject feels really important but it's not really the key here yeah the process although part is this weird that a sizable portion of me wishes i could stare at a wall sometimes and by that i mean because i don't just the just the simplicity just exist right just exist and meditate and look and not think about

anything else i would love that if there was any way you could do that and and not sit there and think i need to get this done i need to do this i need to do that because that's yeah it's hard there's no way i'd be able to turn off that part of my brain yeah and if somebody said to me hey, I stare at a wall and you get two guesses as to why. Well, three, my one guess would be you have no testosterone at all. It's been completely, it's not functioning. Yeah. Because everyone has testosterone to be motivated to live.

And staring at a wall is a very common side effect when they have to shut off testosterone production 100% for medical reasons. People will stare at walls and do nothing. It's very, very interesting. So there's that one. My other one would be, it's a trauma response. and then my third one would be it's a highly practiced meditative Buddhist person those are the three people I don't know anyone else who could do it yeah that sounds about

right um yeah or someone who's stuck in prison and has to cope and stares at the wall right what else you're going to do and the consequences of that are they're horrible right exactly well that's interesting I I that low testosterone sit there and can't move kind of thing that I had I hit with a little bit of that not long ago it was like my numbers are really low low tea low tea like that whole thing and um yeah there were times where i was just like uh that couch and i are going to be best friends today and i'm just going to sit on that and i'm just pull this hat over my head and cuddle with the dog and not move and i felt like that was tied to that it just made me so tired all the time i hated it yeah it sucked yeah

but now i've got testosterone despair so if you need any let me know extra good can you bottle bottle some up and send it to me all sure can I have to take it like a magic mind show. Yeah, look, I have to excrete it. It takes a little while, but I'll get you a bottle. Well, maybe I don't want it. Maybe you don't want it. Ask the folks in Mortal Kombat to illustrate that.

Yes, I think that is that Scorpion's finishing move is extracting all of your testosterone. Oh, man. Get over here, he says, and then does it. All right. Well, that's fantastic. May you always win when you play your boys at any video game. And may this person feel like, they got a little bit of help today. I think, I think these are interesting points.

It seems to be very thankful in the chat as well for us to talking about it. Thanks for sending it in. That's awesome. Yeah, it means a lot. Good luck. And I hope the market turns for you. I do too. So you get out on your own. I do too. Wendy, may your week be full of fun things. We have some cool stuff going on in the background that we'll talk about soon. But, you know, just a little teaser there. We'll talk to you next week and say hi to your kids. Bye now. And tell Adam to freaking lighten up, geez, Louise. It's just a little more. It's a little mortal combat. Gee.

Exactly. Oh my gosh. Calm down. You know what? I know it changed. Back in the 90s, everyone was still convinced video games are just for kids. And they were changing. They were becoming more for more people.

And nowadays, that stigma has kind of, there still exists in some circles, but for the most part, it's kind of left. It's not a medium for 10-year-olds. It's a medium for everyone. Or a certain gender or a certain, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And the last time they freaked out about Mortal Kombat, we added this industry self-imposed a rating system, and that thing has done pretty well.

So we're just a different time. Hey, guess who's visiting me? Who's that? A cat? Yes. Got to be a cat. Which cat would it be? It's a little visit from Salem, Massachusetts.

Aw. She's not crazy about being held for long periods of time, so I'll hold on to her as long as I can. Tell me about this marking. Oh, that's the way the light's hitting her. That's weird. Yeah, she is solid black. You are just all black.

The light hits her in such a way that the hair that's head on, it gives her like a little bald spot. That's trippy. Well, she does. She has the little bald spot in front of her ears like most cats do. Oh, that's true. Those little, just lighter hair areas. She's adorable. She's a sweetie.

I wish it makes me wish I had a cat that liked me. She only likes her. Or he does. Yeah. Anyway. This is a, yeah, Salem. Salem, it's definitely Tina's cat, but she, Tina's working so much at the office that Salem now hangs out with me during the day instead of hanging out with Tina. But Anara is somewhere in the room.

Oh, she's over there on the movie chairs, just kind of keeping an eye on things. Well, someone needs to, you know? Got to police the joint. Real quick, here's a reminder of stuff coming up. Today we have Coverville. Did you say one or noon? I forgot. A noon.

12 today. Alia, the Venture. and Roxette. So you got the look. You got the look. Dust yourself off and try again. You know all those. So anyway, all that stuff today at noon twitch.tv.tv slash coverville.

There's also Core today at 4 p.m. Mountain Time. I believe that's still locked in. We'll let you know if it changes, but that's the plan. Core 4 p.m. We're going to talk about these massive riot and now Microsoft slash Bethesda slash blizzard slash everything layoffs.

1900 people let go today. Yeah. Some gnarly business there. A few other things. Also, they canceled their survival game that we were wondering why we hadn't heard about in a while. So there's a few things going on there that we're going to definitely want to tackle.

And we did play Powell World, and we will talk about Powell World. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I do want to hear about that. I'll have to listen to your talk with Tom about that on DT&S yesterday. Yeah, it's so weird.

The whole thing's so weird. Anyway, play retro tomorrow at 1.30 p.m. Me and Brian Dunaway. tackling Prince of Persia, the original. So check that out. We also have a play date scheduled for Saturday at 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. here for TMS listeners. And that's patrons as well as everyone else.

That's right. Exactly. Patrons always get first dibs on things. But, yeah, we've done a bunch of Fridays in a row. We need to do a Saturday for those folks who work on Sunday mornings and can't make it. So Saturday, 9 a.m. mountain time for a couple hours. I don't think we've talked about what we're doing, but probably a mix again of jackbox and among us.

Probably pull out some games we haven't played in a while. I really like gaspionage is one of my favorites. Oh, Gespionage would be great. Yeah, we haven't done that in forever. Stuff we haven't tweaked around with. We have them all, so we'll give it all a shot. That'll be Saturday, 9 a.m. to 11 a.m., a couple hours with us.

Come spend it with us. Also, FilmSack this weekend. We're doing the film Payback with your Mel Gibson. Gibson, yeah, where he pays people back. It's really nice. It's like, hey, remember that four bucks you gave me for a coffee the other day? Here's a back. Yep, he just gives it to you.

He's a giver. He's not a taker. It's a giver. It's basically like a 12-step program for racists. It's a rated G. It's a rated G little family film. Yeah, looking forward to that. Anyway, so that's all going on.

In the meantime, you can go to our website and find everything you need. It's over at frogpants.com slash TMS. That includes a link to the Patreon. So go check that out as well. You heard us mention names at the top of the show. Be like those people over at patreon.com slash TMS. That's going to do it for today. Except for this song that Brian Brock, because if we don't play it, who will?

Yeah, yeah. This is going out to our friend Gwen, T-Maven, Gwen. Hey, Sensha and Bancha. I'm sure I'm butchering those names. They're Japanese green teas. Don't worry about it. It's your favorite T-Maven, Gwen. The 27th marks the eighth anniversary of my starting my gender transition.

For the first time in those eight years, I'm actually financially stable enough to get my hair removal treatments and to schedule my big surgeries. Capital, big, capital surgeries. It's still a year or two out since you've got to make sure all trace of hair is gone before turning an outy into an any. And electrolysis takes a while, but it's exciting to celebrate eight years. Could you play me your favorite trans-related cover, The Harder Rock Mesa? metal the better. Love you guys so much and slurp my butt. Can I play a thing that's my favorite reference to gender stuff? I sure hope you will. I will. I'm going to play it right now. This is a interview where a guy was trying to, who's doing gotcha questions at some kind

of protest. And this guy's response is my favorite response I've ever heard. So anyway, here it is. How many genders are there? I don't know. I just got you. Love that. I don't know. I just got her. Haven't had time to look around and count. Absolutely freaking that quote. Oh, good. Whoever asked that question needs a swift kick in his nethers. Yep, that was great.

The guy who answered is my hero. Anyway, go ahead. Yes, for sure, for sure. So, obviously, the easy route would be to go with something from against me. I love that band, but I want to go a little bit deeper, get something a little bit, I don't I don't know, harder to find. This is great. This is a band called The Clicks, C-L-I-K-S.

I believe that every member of the band is going through gender, gender changes. Do we still call reassignment surgery? Gender reassignment? Is that what we call that? I don't know if that's still the thing. I think that's right. But they get their name from a combination of the two words of what you have and what you're changing it in, too.

Oh, gender affirming care, they call it now. There you go. Gender affirming care. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gender affirming care. Reassigned. The other one's so harsh, like, you are being reassigned.

Reassignment. That's exactly. Go see the counselor because you have a whole new itinerary to go through. That's right. Yeah, so this is headed up by Lucas Silvera, vocalist and guitarist and then other members that come and go. But this is fantastic. This is a cover of Justin Timberlake's Try Me a...

Try Me a River. Hey, Try Me a River, would you? And let me know how it goes. Cry Me River from their 2007 album, Snake House. Here are The Clicks. You are My Slicks. You were my son. You were my earth

But you didn't know All the ways that I love you No So you took a chance And ate other plans But I bet you didn't know Your world would come crumbling down No

You don't have to say What you did I already know I found out from him Now there's just no chance for you and me Will never be And don't I make you sad about it Told me you love me

Why did you leave me all along You told me you love me When you call me on the phone A girl I refuse You must have me confused Or some other guy Your bridges are burn And now it's your turn to cry

Cryming River Crawming River Oh Clim River Crying River Oh I know that they said something

I bet left unsaid It wasn't like you Only talk to him and you know it Don't act like you don't know it All of these things People tell me Keep messing with my head

You should have picked honesty And you may not have blown it You don't have to say what you did I already know I found out from him Now there's just no chance For you and me We'll never be

And don't I make you sad about it You told me you love me, why did you leave me all alone? You told me you love me when you call me on the phone. Oh, girl I refuse. You must have me confused with some other guy. Your virtues are burned and now it's your turn to pride. Cryming river Crumny river

Oh Crone river Crone river Oh The damage is done So I guess I'll be leaving The damage is done So I guess

I'll be leaving The damage is done so I guess I'll be leaving The damages are done So I guess I'll be leaving You don't have to say what you're dead I already know I found out from him

Now there's just no chance for you and me We'll never be And do to make you set uprody He told me you love me Why did you leave me All along You told me you love me When you call me on the phone

Oh Girl, I refuse You must have me confused You're some other guy Your bridges are burned And now it's your turn to cry Cry me a river Crom in river

Oh Crom me a river Crom me river Oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, baby, go on the time Crom me river Oh, baby, go on the time

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