The Morning Stream - TMS 2591: Louder Milk

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Nightmare Diapers. Parasitic Foreplay. No buckets of popcorn, no KTdata and no Lt. Yar! It's the Story.. Of a Pope named Gregory.. Warren Peas. Brian, the non influencer. Potty mouth parrots. Bill and Bob, they're interchangeable. Full Vegas Churn mode. The over under on Godzilla. Smear that Day. I Could Care Even Less. Scott's hole in 16k! Where In The World Is Brian Destefano? Calendar science with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I could care even less. Scott's Hole and it's 16K. Where in the world is Brian D. Stephano. Calendar Science with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Delicious pan pizza and delicious thin and crispy pizza. What more could a customer want? Personal pan pizza. Did you use best foods, mayonnaise?

The MorningStream. If you have job, you wear the pants. So true. Hey, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for January 29th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. And Brian Nibbitt is also here, of course.

Hello, Brian. Hello. Can you believe we are a mirror? We have 31 days this month? Let's see. Yes. We have 31 days in January. We've got a couple days left, two, three days.

It's the pinky knuckle. Oh, that's right. It is. And then... January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December. Oh, look at that. I remember that when I was a kid and then forgot it immediately. I have no memory of that.

Brian always reminds me of it. Yes, it's so much fun when, like, I'm in a business meeting. Like, what do you think if we make this available on August 1st? I'm like, I used to have to do that with something. Maybe it was just simple math back in the day. At least, you know, it's not like, oh, yeah, that makes an L. That's the left hand. Oh, right, right.

Yeah. We have a lot of stuff like that as kids. You always have to have some reference, some physical comparison to make in your life. It's also 90 days from now we will be attending TMS Vegas, Las Vegas, Nevada, you guys. So much stuff. Yeah. So much stuff. And it's all...

So we've got it in two places, like if you're wondering about all the events and things going on, I've got Viva TMS Vegas loaded up with all the official events and then a little accordion fold of unofficial events like people wanting to do dinners or breakfasts at places, things like that. So you can go there. Or if you're in the Discord, Tanner was nice enough to set up a channel in Discord that's got a lot. that stuff as well. So whatever is most convenient for you, go there. Yeah, we're just teaming with information about the event. And news soon on codes for saving a little money. Tickets, of course. Yep. Swag bags. All that stuff's getting worked on. Yep. Exactly. We're in full, we're in full churn mode here. I'm going to hit up Monique after the show today and say,

give me my code. Give me my code. Give it to me now. So that's all coming up. So I had a weird weekend. It was a real mix. I had the baby's over. We decided to watch them Saturday night, most of the afternoon and night overnight, and then have them in the morning, breakfast, all that. And then Taylor and Dylan would come pick him up. And we did this because we just thought, hey, it'd be nice to toss Tay and Dylan a little timeout. Like, hey, you guys want to, you guys want a day off?

You want to take yourselves to dinner, hang out, have some fun, go a little kid free for a night, you know, take the four and the one-year-old out of your life for a minute. Have a date night, exactly. Sure. And they got to do that. And they were very happy and grateful that we did. And we were happy because we love hanging around those kids. No problem.

Love it. Are you ever a little bit nervous that they just won't come back for the kids? Like they're just going to like say, you know what? Let's just let's just go. Let's just go to Mexico, play an island. Nobody can find us and leave the kids with them. They'll be fine. It would be crazily, crazily unlike them.

However, if they did that, we'd make it work. We'd make it. Of course you'd make it work. Yeah, we'd make that work. But anyway, they were great. We were having fun. Saturday, no problems, no issues. Wonderful time.

Baby's a riot. She's talking and just being a little loud mouth. And Van's super into, well, I'll tell you about the recommendation now. He's super into Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur from Marvel. Oh, yeah. That cartoon is so cool, Brian. You got to watch that shit. What do you mean I got to watch it?

I watched it with Lauren's freaking fishburn. I got to watch that shit. Wait, you did? Wait. Yes, yes. A D23, two years ago. Oh, right. Tina and I attended a screening of the first three episodes with Lawrence Fishburn, and he handed us all these, these devil dinosaur plushies.

Totally forgot that you did that. That's awesome. That is so cool. I totally spaced that. Yeah, it's, uh, it turns out, it turns out that cartoon is real, real good. And I should have listened then, uh, because, well, it wasn't, it wasn't available then. Like, you know, we came out of that. that thing saying oh my god this is great when can we watch the rest of the episodes and they're like

oh yes um a year from september like what that's a lot what took him so long what was the deal there they just weren't done they just had to they just they basically have to have the whole season ready before they can um you know air it or or have enough of the season ready that they can air it and they had only gotten the first three episodes done and the third of the three um they were still like, um, scene missing, or we saw an animatic or something for a couple of the scenes in episode three that weren't ready. Gotcha. Well, it's awesome. And we watched a bunch of that. I had a great time. I'm actually going to keep going in the season as that much I like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Van was really into it. But anyway, we're having a great time. And then

from 11 p.m. until 6.30 a.m. every 20 minutes, almost on the mark, the little one started throwing up and barfed all night and, uh, had some of the most. nightmare diapers I've ever seen. Oh, God. These, I should have packed these diapers and sent them to, like, the CDC or something for study. They were so bad. Oh, my gosh. Oh, geez.

And it was both ends. Like, it was out of both ends. Yeah, both ends. And now she's, you know, she's one. So she's, like, all of this big. So she's not got a lot in her, but it didn't matter. She's not producing a lot, but what she does produce is pretty damn impressive. Very toxic.

And she was just sick all night, the poor thing. And she didn't, she's not really a cryer. She doesn't really cry. But she gets mad. So when she would wake up every 20 minutes, and of course, Kim and I would not really be asleep, but we would, quote, unquote, wake up and then grab her. And then here's the bucket.

And we're like, it's okay. And she's just like, all done, all done. All done. All done. She just kept saying, all done as a way to, like, fight the urge or whatever. Yeah, like, I don't want to do this anymore. Done, done, done. All done.

All done. All done. All done. I should go, Pops, Dana, all done, all done. Well, anyway, all night long, like I said, until about 630, which meant Kim and I slept for maybe an hour. So we were really tired and all that. But somehow, through all of this,

I had the wherewithal to do a thing that I'd like to talk to everybody about. Oh, cool. This is an important moment in TMS history. I would like everyone to be ready for a hallowed statement of sorts. The end of an era, so to speak. Yeah, one that will rock your socks. Here, I'll give it a theme. I watched Parasite.

Oh, my gosh. Okay, so I need, I need, don't just, you know, I need a little bit of foreplay, Scott. So how did this come about? Like, did you go to, like, all right, you're sitting there, you're sitting down on the couch, you've got the remote out, you're pulling up Hulu. No. right sort of how do you settle uh okay tell me how you get to all right i'll tell exactly what happened so um about a week ago week and a half ago something like that yeah yeah we're all we've been

doing this thing on on uh on core for our pre show we're like hey have you guys seen bow is afraid and then they'll go no and i'll say oh you got to watch that and they're like okay yeah we'll watch it before next episode we'll tell you what we think and they just kind of naturally we started doing that with each other that's how i saw um or it's how i made them see seven psychopaths which i love and they had never seen it. So they watched that. And then what was the other one that I saw that I ended up really liking?

Oh, crap. A couple of them anyway. John's recommendations. And so we just had been having these little mini recommendations. And about a week and a half ago, one of these core pre-shows, John goes, you know what you should see.

You should see Parasite. Now, he was aware that there was like a long-standing hoo-ha on TMS about it, right? Yeah. He was aware of this. So I can work on you for three years. Exactly.

Yep. And he can do it in a day. And it takes John one week. Yeah. It takes him one 20 minute pre-show to convince me to see it. I know I need to filter my things through now. You're not going to hear from me anymore. So here's what he said.

Here's how it worked out. He goes, you should see it. And this would be funny because no one's been able to get you to see it. So it'd be funny if you saw it because of this stupid thing. And I went, you know what? That is kind of funny. Right. So let's do it.

So I decided that would be when I would do it. And so I did it. and I liked that movie a lot. I have one problem with it. Yeah. I think some of the... It's all subs. Nobody does any dubs for this movie.

I can't find it down anywhere. Which is good because I think, yeah, when we saw in theaters, it was subbed and I can't imagine seeing it any other way, really. Yeah. And it's not, how do I put this? It's not that people don't want a dubbed version. It's just literally they have not made one. There's some fan effort to make one. I did a whole deep dive on this.

that they don't. I wonder if that's, so is that a Bong Joon Ho decision? Like to say, I don't want, I don't want somebody to experience this other than the way

that it was originally filmed and the audio. Like, it won't, people can't capture the nuance of these, these, um, uh,

actors that, uh, you know, have delivered their lines in a certain way, et cetera. And I think that's probably it. I couldn't find anything to that, to give me that answer,

but that sounds right. And there are a bunch of really great actors in this. And they all did an amazing work. So, I get it. Yeah, one rest in peace, sadly. Yeah, that was sad. Geez.

Anyway, he didn't die of a knife, though. Sorry, spoiler. Anyway, so I'm, so I watch this. And my only complaint is, subs are fine, but I felt like some stuff got lost in translation. There were just some moments, and I couldn't even point at one in particular,

but there were some moments where what they were saying didn't match what I think I was seeing. Oh, interesting. Okay. And I don't think there, it wasn't like egregious or like, up and down.

It was just like maybe two or three moments where I was like, no, wait a minute. She said that, but that doesn't make sense. And I don't know if those are just mistranslations or if I didn't know. Oh, Chad says they have a dub version. Their library is just not up right now? Is that true? That's interesting. On Netflix, though?

That's really weird because I've never seen it up on. That might be, you know, different country or something. Yeah, because here I don't think they ever had it. Hulu had it forever. And now it's on Max, which is where I watched it. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.

I thought it was going to stay on Hulu. I thought they had some deal with. whoever runs. Yeah. I mean, you didn't watch it on Plex where somebody might pick their own subtitle text file.

Like, you watched it on HBO or on Max. Yeah, proper thing. And it's not that I would, I think I would have gone back and forth to see how it worked, but I think I would have mostly gone subs.

Because, you know, it's a freaking Academy Award-winning best picture. I got to, like, experience it the way it was presented. And so I did. The first international winner of the best picture category.

Yes. So I really liked it. And Brian was right. It's a very good movie. Yeah. And I shouldn't have waited so long. I mean, that was mostly me just like not getting around to a thing. Right, exactly.

You weren't actively avoiding it or anything like that. Now, here's what you don't know, Scott, is that earlier, actually last year, I started talking to KT Data about using up some of my frequent flyer miles and flying to Salt Lake City. he was going to pick me up at the airport he was going to film this whole thing pick me up at the airport we were going to swing by a movie theater get two tubs of popcorn yeah and i was going to show up on your front door and we were going to watch parasite together i was going to coordinate like i hadn't gotten to this stage where i was going to coordinate hadn't started coordinating this with uh cam or carter anybody but um dang it yes so this was in so this was an active development this little

plan this was an active development yeah k t data and i had been talking about like, all right, when are you traveling? When's, when's, uh, uh, CES and when's this? When's that? When do you think we could do it? Can't have it too close to, uh, TMS Vegas and stuff like that. Yeah, like I, that would have been amazing, obviously. Um, I, uh, yeah.

Yeah. So how, how recently was this? Like, were you guys talking right up to the point you found out I watched it or when? Uh, we were talking, the last time we talked about was maybe two weeks ago, three weeks ago. That's really close. Yeah. I had no idea. It's all right.

It's a lesson for me to not, not, to get off my butt on certain things that I think are going to be. Yeah, that would have been something. But how would, so would you have to, we'd have to rent a theater, right, or something to get that done? Right a theater, no. We're going to watch it on your, on your 4K TV. Oh, I was going to show up at your house with two buckets of popcorn. And a film crew in the form of KT data. And a film crew in the form of KT data.

Okay, I got you now. I guess three buckets of popcorn because you can't leave KT Data out. He's got to have a bucket of popcorn as well. That actually would have been fun. That would have been all right. It's all right. It's all right. Again, my, me not getting off my butt, important lesson.

The same thing happened with the dude who released a book about cover songs from the cover song blog before I got mine out. It was like, oh my God, I already had like an outline, had everything. It's like, well, I can do it now. You could do it now, though. Now it'd be relevant again. I could do it now. It's been enough time, actually, that. that there'd be new things I'd want to talk about

that weren't in the original, so that's true. Oh, I'd support that Kickstarter. Let's do it. I could put that. I can put that on the list. Boy, uh, Ku, cried wolf in the chat says, not actively avoiding the movie. It was the whole thing. No, I wasn't actively avoiding it. It was just a, it was a running joke. We created a hype bubble. Yeah.

That's what we did. We did. We created a hype bubble. As you know, I don't love high bubbles, but it was, it was good to finally see it. I did want to see it. I wanted to see it before his next movie, which looks cool, comes out this year, um, called, um, I already forgot. It's got your team Edward in it. What the hell is?

The guy's new movie. Hold on. I'm pulling it up right now. Bong Joon Ho, by the way. And currently in development is Mickey 17. That's it. Mickey 17.

It's back to sci-fi. It's where I like it. Kim the most. Because I will say, I think my favorite Bong Joon Ho movies are the science fiction focused ones. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no argument. I love, I mean, I love Snoop here. So I heard you talking about, you know, this on pre-show core, of course. The cat was out of the bag for me. Well, the cat was out of the bag when you said it in Discord chat. Yeah, yeah. All right. And then I tuned in for core pre-show. So it worked to finally get me to listen to a core pre-show, by the way. That was the goal.

That was our entire trick. See, I knew it. We didn't care about anything else. John has been working on this for longer than I've been talking to KT Data. Actually, he's like, how can we get Brian to want to listen to a core pre-show? And the thing about John, John is a chaos monster, and he loves this kind of crap. He loves getting me to do this as like a goal of his. I don't know if you knew this, but back when we were raiding, he was on our team to like roll around with us and raid.

Yeah. He would, if you ever, I don't know if you noticed this, but when we would fight, trash he would be nowhere to be seen oh right because he's out attracting new mobs and stuff right no no he's hiding in the dead he's hiding in the corpse of the last bossy yeah he's hiding and waiting everyone to clear trash right so he can then come participate in the actual fights that matter i do remember this yes absolutely he's a chaos monster that's just exactly who he is uh but anyway yeah i like snow purser i like oak to you a lot i like uh i like those movies so i really want to see this new Mickey 17 thing.

Mickey 17, yeah. And whatever, he's got some animated project in development. I have no idea what it is. That's the other one that it's listed there. Yeah, exactly. That sounds awesome. So, uh, anyway, I'm pretty excited about that. The host, I love the host. Oh, his movies, his five movies are my jam.

So that being said, if he said to me, Hey, Scott, what'd you like better? Like Snowpiercer or Paraside. I would say Snowpiercer because it's more in my wheelhouse, of interest. But this was also very good. And you know what's weird is Parasite is not the perfect movie to follow up on, but it is almost the perfect juxtaposition to something like Salt Burn. Very similar vibe. Not the same movie at all, but and there aren't, you know, there aren't five particular moments in Parasite where I was shocked out of my mind. But there are, I mean,

yeah, maybe not gross out moments, but there are a couple moments of like, oh, holy shit. Yeah. There's some basement moments. Let's call it that. Yes, exactly. Okay, good. I don't want to give too much away. But, yeah, like, Salt Burn has very similar motivations for some of it as this movie. So that was a weird thing to just stumble into. I didn't expect that.

But I had a great time. It was good. It deserved what it got. And I'm glad I finally got it behind me. Good. I'm glad, too. And now we need to figure what the next thing is. Is it, do we work on you for a squid game now?

Is that the thing that we have to? Kind of in the mood for it, to be honest, kind of want to see it. So maybe I will watch me some of that. I'm going to catch up on True Detective Season 4 real quick, and then I'll... Oh, really? Oh, see, we're waiting. I'm waiting on that one. With Fargo is like, no, got to watch it when it comes out.

Got to watch each one when it comes out. But with True Detective, I feel like we're okay waiting. We're currently watching a... I'm probably going to use this for Recommmental, so I don't want to tell too much about it, but it's a procedural drama from the UK that has a few seasons. And something Kim would love. You've got to tell me what that is when you have recommended it. I'll have to when it's all done.

Oh, yeah, Outer Range you need to finally watch. Geez, Louise. Yeah, that's another one. It's another one on my list. I have a burgeoning list. I think I may actually share it so people can see how long this list is of things people have said to see. I bet mine's longer.

Yeah, I'll bet it is. But yeah, I want to see outer range. I want to see that stuff's right up my alley There's no reason for me Not to see outer range That's stupid not to see that Because I love that kind of stuff

And I love the last I finally cut up on all the seasons Of True Detective And I thought season three was really good And so Show my list and see This is my list longer than yours Let's see

You put it in the Oh that's a pretty big list Yeah And that's just a series There might be a movie or two in there But mostly series And Glad you have louder milk on there

yeah oh yeah yeah we would have watched it uh had it not we needed something that i could use for recommendals but otherwise we we were talking about watching louder milk next lauder milk's really good i love that i hope there's a there's a rumor that netflix picked it up and is having it in their top 10 and it's succeeding really well that they're going to revive it and i would be thrilled if they revive that series that'd be wonderful give it another couple seasons or something skip some years that's all you have to do yeah there you go cool uh uh Brian, you saw some stuff. What did you see?

I saw some stuff. Yeah, so obviously it's Oscar time. So now Tina and I are doing the thing where we make sure to see all of the best picture nominees before the broadcast. And then we're also, you know, trying to catch up on any best actor, best actress, supporting screenplay director, things like that that we can. And then the shorts. So we went and saw American fiction at the movie picture show house. And this is the one with Jeffrey Wright as a writer who's struggling to get a book published until he decides that if he writes it in a more urban ghetto style,

actually, you know, going so far as to become that person, like an ex-con kind of thing, then he can maybe have some more luck with getting his book published. And this was great. this is going to be this is kind of like the um the dark horse right because oppenheimer and uh um holdovers i'm trying to think of like what you know your your big expected films in the in the best picture category um they're all great they're really good this one i feel like is is this kind of quiet movie that should be creeping up on everybody's radar and being like oh you know those are all good big flashy films

but you need to see this one. It's like Florida Project or... Right. Florida Project, great comparison, right? Where it's like this kind of unassuming, just kind of quietly slipping into the line there, but really it should be more prominent. More people need to see it. Fantastic. American Fiction's...

Love Jeffrey Wright so much. I hope he wins. That'd be great. I mean, he's fantastic, and he's fantastic in this. We also saw Godzilla minus 1-1. color because so many people have raved about it to me that was like all right Tina we got to see this thing and we missed it

when it was in color in theaters so we saw the black and white version and I gotta say I'm not I'm not at all disappointed that we saw the black and white version I'm wondering how if there was anything the color version could have done that made the experience better

because I feel like it belonged in black and white whole thing takes place right after World War II so it's it's black and white you know it's black and white time period as far as those kinds of movies sure and um uh it was uh um i don't know it just felt so so true to the original it's it's a very human um character driven version of godzilla and uh but godzilla's you know there's make no mistake this isn't like oh we're going to learn about all these characters for one and a half hours, and then the last 50 minutes, hey, it's Godzilla. No, Godzilla's, Godzilla is throughout.

That's good to hear, because there are versions of Godzilla movies like Shin Godzilla, which people seem to like in 2016. I finally saw that, and Shin Godzilla was mostly people, and then just a little Godzilla. Yeah. I don't like that. You did like that, or didn't like that? I did not like that. I need some Kaiju action. You need Godzilla throughout, you need the Toyo, or Toyo, Toho, right? Toyo. Toyo. Toyo, Toyo Godzilla? I think it's toy. Oh, yo.

I think that's right. Making sure. But anyway, yeah, so good. So well done. And we could not, like, I still wasn't 100% sure I understood the title, like, why it was Godzilla minus one until I did a little looking online. And it's like, oh, okay. I guess that makes sense. It's not a spoiler to say that since this does take place right after.

World War II Japan's kind of at their lowest point so they're already at zero after Hiroshima Nagasaki and the effects of World War II and then Godzilla just kind of said oh you're here minus one

minus one because you thought you had it bad great that's as good a translation as I've heard of that title that's pretty good yeah we thought it was like oh instead of saying humans one Godzilla's zero So it was a Godzilla minus one.

It's a handicap. They applied them a negative one handicap. Yes. It's over. What's the over under on Godzilla? Oh, minus one. Okay, I'll take the over. Yeah.

That's great. I've been dying to see it. I just haven't had a chance. I think I did lock in tickets today or yesterday for, I say, I think I did because I think Kim did it. But I think we got our Dune Part 2 tickets all set. Cool. Yeah, we got ours for.

I think I texted you. I showed you a text of my, my, my, ticket purchase for let's see oh yeah it's it's leap day we're seeing it on leap day oh I missed this is yesterday yeah you did send this yesterday is that when I'm seeing it I think I'm seeing it the same night I think

cool yeah we got ours at the at this new theater that everyone's raving about here so we'll see how it is big fancy seats 15 bucks a ticket you know well hopefully hopefully it's a better experience hopefully they have something at the beginning that says hey thanks for coming in the movies don't be a dick okay thanks

yeah enjoy your show thanks uh that's a good idea uh there you go so some stuff to think about is you are planning your next trip to the movie theater and or home watching experience all right correct many many things to enjoy let's get done away in here let's play a little

half asses give some stuff away prizes are at foot that's right well we're not giving away a foot but we're oh shit okay I know change change your plan plans, Brian. Yeah, hang on to that foot. Although, refrigerate it. That'd be my... Yeah, yeah, don't just leave it out. Yeah, don't leave that out. Music means it's time for Brian Dunaway to take the stage. Hello, Brian.

Oh, hi, Scott. Oh, hi. You all right? Oh, hi. I was on the other line. So I just hung up. I was trying to hang up. There we go. I was trying to hang up. Okay. Look. Oh, wait, wait. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi, hi, that's your official agreement. Did you know adults 60 plus lose more than $60 billion each year to financial exploitation? Greenlight's new family shield plan empowers you to monitor your accounts for suspicious activity, protect yourself with up to $1 million identity theft coverage, and reassure loved ones that you're safe with location sharing and place alerts.

Get peace of mind today at greenlight.com slash protect. That's greenlight.com slash protect. Would you, were you successful in hanging up? Like, did you, are you good? Were you all right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was trying to, mid-sentence on somebody. No, no, well, sort of kind.

It was one of those conversations that kind of goes like, okay, well, I'm going to let you go. Okay, I'm going to let you go. Okay, I'm going to let you go. Was this an important work conversation, or are you talking to the loved ones? No, no, it was just somebody asking a million questions about things that could wait or could have been an e-mail. Yes. Oh, I hate that. I hate that.

Yeah. well you're the guy you're the go-to guy and everyone loves you yeah yeah but i should have been gone like seven minutes ago it's one of those things you know what i'm out i'm out i'm leaving i'm leaving out nope no no and i'm going no no no i'm leaving no not let oh now you're gone uh well it's good to have you here we're going to play uh the half asses brian here's got the actual rules and stuff that's up on the line all that crap brian you want to explain absolutely welcome to the morning half asses a trivia game where i'm actually going to be giving you guys the answers i'm going to give scy and Brandon category and six possible answers. Three of those answers are correct, and three of them, like John, finally getting Scott to watch Parasite when I've tried for three years, are just

wrong. But depending on how confident you feel about the category, you can provide one, two, or three guesses, but if you get any of those guesses wrong, you get zero points for that round. Get one, and you get a point. You get two right, you get three points, and you get all three correct. You get five

points total. Player with the most points after three rounds, wins the prize for their contestant. Let's see who you're playing with or playing for that is you're playing with but you're playing for Scott you're going to be playing for Eve Marchan in Alma

Quebec. Cool. In Canada. Nice. And Brian, you're going to be playing for Jason DeStefano. Sounds like oh, the villain, the soap opera villain Jason DeStefano. Where in the world? Oh, New Hampshire, there we go. I say, where in the world is Jason DeStefano.

Beep, Bob. That's the guy. Yeah, you nailed it. You nailed it. Brian, you, that's how the song goes. All the 90s kids. That's how rockabella would sing it right there. All the 90s kids' ears perked up the minute you sang that song, nicely done. Where in the world is Garvin, San Diego. All right.

Let's get to it. Let's get to your first question here. All right. Oh, this is a good one. You guys got this. I predict perfect scores from both of you. Oh, my Lord. TV show theme songs that are sung by actors from the,

show. Oh, these are my favorite. Happy days, cheers, Gilligan's Island, all in the family, family guy, and fresh prints of Bel Air. Which of these theme songs are sung by the cast themselves? And meaning some, it can be someone in the cast, it could be ever in the game. It could be a combination, right? Theme songs performed by actors from the show.

I don't know how much more clear I can make it. Well, you said, you said the cast. The cast implies everybody did. That's true. Yeah. These songs performed by actors from the show. All right. Well, then I know the answers.

You're both locked in. Pretty damn easy. You both got it right. All in the Family, sung by Carol O'Connor and Gene Stapleton. And Family Guy is kind of a take on the All in the Family, right? It totally is. It starts with the two of them at the piano. It starts with Lois and Peter at the piano. Basically, it's a takeoff on a family guy.

And, of course, Fresh Prince of Bel Air sung by DJ Jazzy Jeff. surprisingly a lot of people don't know that but i didn't know i didn't know that really that's because brian's kidding he's not telling you the truth at all it's all fake exactly all lies all right um so it was it was dj jazzy jeff and not the fresh prince no it was the fresh prince who's saying it come on now yeah j jazzy jeff showed up once in a while on the show but he did not see he did especially the first season let me tell you all a story about how brian told the other brian alive do with this one. We're moving from TV shows to

books, and which of these books have an opening sentence that's less than six words long? Your choices are, The Cat and the Hat, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, or the Philosopher's Stone, if you're from the other side of the pond, the stranger, you know, Camus the stranger,

The Invisible Man, a tale of two cities and Curious George. Three of these have opening sentences that are less than six words long. I'm picking two because I don't feel confident. Yeah, I mean, it's like bait. It's like, oh, yeah.

It's like bait. It's like bait. I mean, obviously you're going to think it's going to be the kids because we want to keep it short, but then it's probably going to be like, I was dot, and then something stupid, and it's like, oh, that's the first sentence. All right, there we go.

Less than sex. not less than or equal to six iCore less than six why is that do you know all the opening sentences from these books iCore you're just trying to get on that uh he might he might he might actually kevin's a smart dude i wouldn't put it past him

all right don't i pick your damn shit all right you both i picked it like five minutes ago johnson oh it wasn't five minutes ago i sat here waiting you did you just well the question didn't even start obviously i'm exaggerating okay all right uh yeah it's not a tale of two cities is uh I remember correctly, it was the best of times.

It was the worst of times, or was that Warren Peace? I don't remember at all. Who's Warren Peace? Yeah, Warren, Warren, Peace, Warren Buffett. No, your choices are Invisible Man, the Stranger and Curious George, three that you did not pick. One of you picked Invisible Man.

Invisible Man begins with the line. Get ready, Brian. I am an invisible man. I knew it. I knew it. That's what I figured. I am Curious George. Actually, how does Curious George start?

Curious George begins with, this is George. Oh, wow. Oh. And that makes sense. Here's George. She's doing his stuff. Yeah. By Curious George starts a completely different way.

And then the stranger begins with Mother died today. Oh. Yeah. Oh. That's a terrible sentence to start. Yeah, it's a bummer right away. Yes. Exactly.

All right. Call me Ishmael. All right. Let's get to question number three. You guys still deadline. at five points apiece. Interesting. We're coming up on Super Bowl time, or the big game, as we're only allowed to call it, in advertising.

Which of these teams are undefeated in the Super Bowl? And I had to double check from the time that this question was written to make sure that it's still the case. The Baltimore Ravens, the New York Jets, the Minnesota Vikings, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Chicago Bears, and the Norland Saints. Which of these teams are undefeated? in the Super Bowl. Even when they rarely go sometimes. That's the best kind because that means they have fewer opportunities to lose.

That's correct. Yes. Now, one of these, I think, might be just once. One of these things is really stupid. But they may have won it. All right. The Super Bowl shuffle. I feel like that one's dangerous.

I know that one's not true because I watched a game where the Green Bay beat him. so let's go with I'm picking two because I don't freaking know. Okay. All right. Sounds good.

All right. You guys both picked the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears actually are 7 and 7. They are... Nice. I'm sorry, not 7 and 1. Those little numbers look really weird the way it's written here.

One in one. Chicago Bears have been to the Super Bowl twice and they've lost once. And same with Picksburg. Steelers 6 and 2 but the Baltimore Ravens are 2 and 0 New York Jets are 1 and O they've only been once and they won

same with the New Orleans Saints they've only been once and they won Damn it. So Ravens Saints and Jets go fewer times and you have a better chance of not screwing up. That's your benefit. Exactly. All right so that means we have to go to our tiebreaker

question and last time it was me I had to pick and then I think Scott had to go high little right. That is correct. Yeah. okay oh i love this this is so good all right um oh i love both of these questions which one do i use we're gonna do god go higher lower yeah higher lower that'll choose what question i use all right uh scott yeah that's me how many how many wooden blocks come in the game jenga oh oh my gosh that is a good Game jenga, yeah.

60 blocks come in the game jenga. 60 blocks is incorrect. Is the actual answer higher or lower than 60? I'm going to say it is two-less. I want to say they go with a 52 like a card deck. So lower then. Two less would be 58. I know.

I corrected myself. Oh, my God. You guys are so sensitive to day. Who peeing your corn flakes? Cripes. I promise I had no cornplace. I did because we were out of milk. The actual answer is lower.

It's 54. You got to pick a number that's divisible by three because every layer has three blocks in it. Oh, I'm sorry. Wait a minute. Is that right? That is right. I never thought of that. Yeah, each level has three turned 90 degrees.

Oh, my head, it's four, but that's not right because it wouldn't. No, it would be, yeah, it wouldn't. not be would not balance as well i've played jangins jangins so many years i should play it you know what i want is one of those jumbo ones the big heavy block ones have you seen those yeah oh yeah they haven't they haven't met uh they haven't met bars where i play trivia and it really pisses me off when we're in the middle of discussing a thing and all of a sudden we hear screams and a crashing down of these giant two by four jingo blocks oh good point that would annoy me especially if you're trying to focus on the question that'd be hard exactly uh so that means congratulations going to

Brian and by proxy Jason DeStefano, that pesky villain, would have gotten away up in New Hampshire, right? Up in New Hampshire. Congratulations, Jason DeStefano. You are getting a copy of Spirit of the Island and Lords and Villains

from Steam. But, Yves Marchand in Quebec, you are getting a copy of a juggler's tale. A game I almost bought last night on sale because it looked so interesting. The jugglers tale?

Yeah, I was scrolling through my Steam. back last night, and I see this, and I'm like, what is that? It was on sale. And it looked really good, reviewed really well. No idea how it is, but it seems like it's well received. I think this person also won today. They might have won their, yeah, exactly. It's very different from a juggalo's tale.

I don't recommend that one. No. Tell the juggaloes. Part one, Fago, part two. Clown makeup. Right, exactly. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Yeah, whoop is part two. Well, that's great. I love when everybody wins, but me.

done away done away you did great though this is going to be a hell of a week for us on play retro i know we'll talk about it again Wednesday but i want to bring this up because there's now an active unreal tournament server running for the play retro retro community

yes that means retro retrogib.com that's right gib dot com that's right information hop in there that's right get in there and uh that game rocks I'm going to destroy done away at some point before our show oh wheels i've been

practicing a lot. I have seen you on the server unless you've been playing that single player bot tournament. Look, I played, I don't think there's a game that has more hours played than that one for me. Maybe World of Warcraft's the only one that to beat it. Oh, so you're depending on the, it's like riding

a bike. Muscle memory, baby. That's right. Okay, okay. So you have the mouse currently and keyboard that you had when you develop that muscle memory. Okay, it's fine. It's fine. Whatever, Scott. I'm just saying, okay. I got a honey Honeywell three-buttoned mouse and a clicky-clacky Honeywell keyboard from 1999. You got your mouse wheel.

You got the mouse ball bent down there. Yeah, I got to take it out, wash the cat hair out of it occasionally, it's the sticky. Yeah. You know how it is. You know what's up. Yeah. Bye. All right.

He's gone now. That was great. Congratulations to our participants today. You're both winners in our book. Both winners and then literally both ones. So we got codes out to both of them. So, yeah. Yeah.

Well done. Indeed. Yeah. Let's dive into this for a little bit. Oh, I can't use that twice today. Hold on. Let's find a better one. Time for the news, brought to you by.

That payback episode of FilmSack was pretty good. You should all sub to FilmSack and see for yourselves, FilmSack.com, for all the details. And if you've only got a couple minutes, go boil an egg. Yeah, go boil an egg. One of the best jokes in the movie we saw. I agree, I agree. We watched Payback, and it was awesome, you guys.

For real, it's fun. It's fun movie. uh no not for the kids though i forgot to mention no gosh no and um way more fun than the original version the the the original uh uncut and then relator released as a uh director's cut version not as fun not as fun some some argue better but definitely not as fun they just strip the humor out of it and you know it's not as good not as good of a time right uh let's talk about colorado for a minute Brian you got another one of these problems going on here Colorado connection you have have more pastors getting up to shit, I swear. Oh, really? Well, we have a lot of, we have a lot of

megachurches here. Yeah. It is a bummer. Yeah, it is a little bit of a bummer when they, when they do weird stuff. Colorado pastor accused of pocketing $1.3 million in crypto scheme money. He said the Lord told us to. Sure, sure. The Lord said, this is okay. Yeah. The Lord said pocket it and keep it and screw people over. That's what happened. That way we don't take responsibility. We shifted over to the Lord. The Lord, exactly. Anyway, you have a problem with that? Take it up with him.

Take it up with the Lord. How do I do that? I don't know. Good luck. Colorado-based pastor for an online church queues to pocketing $1.3 million in cryptocurrency fraud schemes, told followers in a video statement that the Lord told him to do it. Eli Regulato, regalado.

Regalado. Regalado. And his wife, they marketed a cryptocurrency, called index coin to Christian communities in Denver saying God told him people would become wealthy if they invested in his scheme. The Colorado Division of Security said in a statement it's INDX coin or index coin raised nearly 3.2 million. The securities division said at least 1.3 million of that went directly to the to their to this couple or was quote used for their own personal benefit unquote. It said in a complaint in the Denver County District

court. The Regalados could not be reached for comment in a video statement to his followers last week. He said the charges, said the charges that they pocketed 1.3 million are true. He admitted to that. At least, at least God told him to tell the truth. So that's good. That's right. Here's how we put it. This is the exact quote. Out of the 1.3 million, half a million dollars went to the IRS and a few hundred thousand dollars went to a home remodel the Lord told us to do. went to a home remodel see that's very different that a few hundred thousand dollars so is that of the oh I see what just saying so he of the 1.3 million that they took right they said half a million out went to the IRS and then a few hundred thousand dollars okay that's what he's claiming yeah here's also what he's claiming that he talked to the lord about it see here's here's the part I love like I try to imagine this conversation that I know never took place but let's imagine to just for a second. He's just like, hey, so Lord, I got all these, I got all this money we did from the crypto scheme. What do you think of that? Oh, that's very good, my son, very good. You know what I

would do after you pay the IRS, your required tax money. Let's put a new kitchen in. Let's do that. Yeah, exactly. In fact, you can tell them I told you to do it. I'm sure. The first thing you said is, well, taxes, right? I mean, you got to keep those in mind. So, let's see. And third, what's your withholding? And how many dependents do you? All right, hold on. You're going to need schedule form. You're going to need schedule form, J, subsection two.

Yep. All right. So, you know, probably about half a million for Texas. Yep. It's the Lord's. Yeah. It's the Lord's paperwork. How's your man cave?

Do you need a new man cave? I'd put pinball machines and old arcade machines in there if it was me. But what do I know? I'm just the Lord. Exactly. Wait a minute. I feel a little targeted with that one, Scott. I like all your shit.

Whoever told you to do it, I say you did the right thing. The Lord told me to have this pinball machine. Nicely done. Let's move on to this one. The British Zoo. I don't know if this is just called. No, I guess it's a British Zoo. Not the British Zoo.

I don't think there is a the British Zoo. There's the British Museum, but I don't think there is the British Zoo. Lincolnshire Wildlife Park. There you go. Anyway, they have a plan. to rehabilitate its potty-mouthed parrots. They're going to get these parrots straight. Here's what they said.

The British Wildlife Park has hatched a new plan to rehabilitate its potty-mouthed parrots after they unleashed a tide of expletives. Back in 2020, five foul-mouthed African gray parrots donated to the Lincolnshire Wildlife Park in Eastern England were isolated from the flock in an attempt to approve their freaking dirty language. I added some words there.

Yeah, yeah. That's all right, though. Yeah. But from Tuesday What the flock? What the flock is going on? The team is adopting a different riskier approach to integrating three newly donated cuss-happy birds named Eric, Captain, and Sheila.

I want to see that movie. The new The NiscidGov from ABC. Welcome to TGIF. It's Eric Captain and Sheila. Oh, the things those birds will say. She's a hooker with a heart of gold. He's a captain. And then there's Eric.

Yeah, there's Eric. Show should be called Then There's Eric. And then there's Eric, yeah. When we came to move them, the language that came out of their carrying boxes was phenomenal, really bad, not normal swear words. These were proper expletives, says the park executive guy, Steve Nichols. Yeah. And I mean, the British already, they already say a few things that they don't consider swear words that we do.

So it's got to be really bad. Like, we know what you talk about, you know, how you talk about cigarettes and what you call people that are, you know, maybe less than desirable. And that's a word we just don't use here for fear of getting slapped. Yeah, that's right. The other thing is these birds are mean. They'll learn stuff and then overdo it. And if you have a bird sanctuary and people are coming through that thing and all they do is cuss at people. Oh, yeah.

I could see there'd be a problem, especially for kids and stuff. Um, but I don't know how you, they don't get into it in this article. How do you rehabilitate that? How do you get the bird to stop saying it? I think you get them away from people who give them the reaction that they're looking for. Because if, I'm thinking that if they get, you know, they get laughs or, or, oh, here you go. Here's a, here's some bird seed, you know, from a, from somebody buying it from the penny machine outside and saying, ah, he said it to bad word. Let's give them some bird seed to congratulate.

that's a good point they're getting positive reaction for swearing if you flip that and only give them positive reinforcement for stuff that isn't swearing then you can probably break it exactly yeah i think that makes sense um well anyway that's a fun deal going on there well done britain yeah exactly you're officially weird uh one final story we got a woman in jail she was arrested after stealing twenty five hundred dollars u.s worth of stanley cups now i didn't know there were stanley cups outside of the uh the hockey stuff. I didn't know there was such a thing. Have you drunk from a Stanley Stanley? No, I keep seeing these things all over the place as far as like the the mayhem that's going around these stupid Stanley cups. People like them. So, I don't, apparently they're a hot

item and because of that, and yet another episode of people doing extreme things for Stanley, Tumblers, one woman allegedly attempted to steal a shopping cart full of them without paying for them. Are they like this? Hold on. Where's mine? They, um, I got this thing, which is a

which is now broken I just dropped something just making it sure it isn't yeah it looks like that except it has a handle on the side if it's the thing that that I'm thinking it is which starting at live

made fun of tremendously this weekend with Dakota Johnson they must have that must be it yeah I don't I didn't know about the handles but anyway this thing's a Yeti and it keeps things cold or hot forever

it's awesome I love this thing but I guess everyone's taking the Stanley ones to gyms and died, you know, all that. I've got a Contigo one that is just amazing, and then I've got my corksicle Spider-Man cup, which is, I have two of these, actually. One that's a water, and then one that I use for coffee,

and they are fan-freaking-tastic. Yeah, I'm a fan. I get why these would get big, but why they're like, they're almost like, what's the shoes everyone hates? Oh, Crocs? They're like crocs, but for cups, everyone's making fun of them.

They're everywhere. They're like. Yeah, and I think it's more that people are just making fun of them because of the hubbub they're not as they're not ugly like crocs are they're not you know as as uh useful useless in multiple situations like crocs are yeah but uh more like more like furbies like all right well i can see that the furby is interesting but really why why such a hubbub about furbies you know if you want to impress me hike everest in a pair of crox that would impress me yeah there you go then you can defend that you can say the crocs are just fine yeah they are

They are comfortable. I give them that. I've had them on my feet before. And I get the comfort angle. And I even have a pair of crock flip-flops. They don't look like crocs. You'd never know. They're the most comfortable flip-flops I've ever owned. So there's something going on there. But if you're wearing the regular ones, they're pretty ugly. I have some Birkenstock flip-flops that somebody recommended when I was having planter fasciitis issues. And they were fantastic for that. I don't still wear them. But, uh, I don't. um at the time man they uh they were great bringing to Vegas wear them on like the um the over sky thing no you're gonna wear those not uh okay nope nope not wearing them all right you guys I'm just saying you could do a little campaign a little pressure campaign and uh no because they are purely for around the house I don't even wear I don't even I wear maybe to go out and get the mail and that is as far as they get from my front door and as far as they will ever get probably the smart thing to do um all right we're going to take a break from the news and jive uh directly into a song break after which Bobby will be here. We get some science coming up. So stick around until then, music, Brian, music. Yeah. So we, you know, this week,

I'm going to be going to Casa Benita, which was famously taken over by the South Park guys. But what we don't talk about very much is North Park. And a couple guys are a few guys from Toronto who formed a band called North Park. That was a long way to go while I searched for the information about the band.

um these guys are uh pop punks uh with they have a brand new single it's called ink if you're a fan of of blink 182 some 41 stuff like that i think you're really gonna like this from ontario here are north park and ink cut deep with words but i got my pen it's a game you won't when you tell my hand i've bottled up my thoughts but now i'll spill the ink take a minute to realize you were wronged It's a feeling that I know all too well I should have known the ending was carved in the Sun Man Hold tight onto anything that gums out reality I've been pushing up against the tide away just to get through another day Closer I get the farther you go I might seem fine on the surface

Look they told the right stand the moment you weigh me down I'm finding time to find purpose I'll fight a time to fight the bed again. Cut deep the words, but I got my plans. It's a game you won't win and dealt my hands. I've bottled up my thoughts, but now I'll spill the end. Take a minute to realize you were old. It's your feeling that I know all too well.

I should have known the ending was carved in a summit. I'll spill the ink. I'll cross you out. I'll come to grips that you don't hear a sound. Stitches on stitching the feelings consistent. I'm going the distance to push past the friction. Call it, I'll bet you are not in the mood to Listen to your views when my word never in mind

Pull the trigger within his faith Such a change in conditioning I've built for this moment Because all your words don't seem to fit Because I don't think you give a shit My eyesight is reddening Cut deep with words but I got my mind but I got my pen.

It's your game to won't when he dealt my hand. I've bottled up my thoughts, but now I'll spill the ink. Take a minute to realize you were wronged. It's your feeling that I know I'll do well. I should have known the ending was carved in the cement. I'll spill the ink. I'll cross you out.

I'll come to grips that you don't hear a sound. I'll spill the ink I'll cross you out I'll come to grips that you don't hear a sound I'll spill the hate, I'll cross you away, I'll come to Chris that you don't hear what sound. I'll spill the head, I'll cross you out, I'll come to Chris, that you don't hear a sound, Skin Bracer, now and spice too. Takes care of men who take care of their skin.

Skin Bracer aftershave. By men. How loyal are people to the brands they choose. And we're back. Tell me about that again. Yeah, those are Toronto Poppunks North Park. And thanks to Wiretap Records for sending this one over. Their brand new song, Inc.

Go check them out, North Park. Nice. A quick shout out to somebody. We got a dude in our chat, or in our tadpole, our extended community named John R, who, that's the name he goes by, who's been putting little mashed up versions of moments on TMS together in a vertical format. so I can put them on TikTok and YouTube and stuff. Oh, he's responsible for those? Fantastic. I love those.

Yeah, they've been really great and keep up the rad work. They're awesome. So just want to give him a shout-out. All right, it is Bobby time. Bobby. Bobby. Come in here, Bobby. Let's see if we can get him to find his way in. Here we go.

We're going to pull him in, play a little intro, and we're off to the races with that. Let's see if I can find his intro. And also if we can find him. He is currently ringing. That means nothing until he picks up. Let's see. Bobby, there. You go, run, take a poop.

Are you otherwise indisposed? Is he on his way? He is on his way. And here's his thing. There's still something wrong, isn't there? That's Bill. Science. Bob is hungry and the soup looks good.

That's right. Bob is hungry and his soup looks good. And he's here again to talk about science. Bobby, welcome back to the show. Thank you for, welcoming me properly after it's been a while since you called me bill i know it has been a while but you did i guess you didn't directly call me bill you you called me bill with your soundboard that's right i didn't use your name but the soundboard had its own ideas and then tomorrow i will offer to

bill as bob and then everyone wins so look forward to that it's a big week for the b names that's a good point nobody wins it's good to have you here dude and uh we're going to talk about some science. Now, you and I have been a little bit back and forth on sometimes topics like, hey, this is what I'm thinking about talking about. Or once in a while, pipe them with you and say, hey, there's this thing. But we've been talking about calendars and time and stuff. I think it came up here for the first time, right? The whole, why don't we do the four, or no, what was it, three week? The 13 months a year. That's right. With 28 days in each month and how then it would make all the days of the month line up and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And you are, you are somebody

who hears something like that and goes, well, why is that? And then you go do a bunch of dirty work and then you come on here and correct us on all our bad assumptions. And I think that's great. So let's do that. First of all, why is it wrong? I assume it's wrong because we're not doing it. If it was right, we'd probably, somebody would somewhere be doing this, right? Well, I don't, I wouldn't always assume that. You'd probably, you know, because with something as big is the calendar. You guys talked about it a little bit, and Brian, I think you mentioned last week while you guys were talking about it, that if you were to make a change to the calendar, that'd be

a pretty big change. It'd be huge, yeah. And it would be pretty difficult to implement a change like that. You're trying to roll a, like stop a boulder that's rolling downhill almost unstoppably, right? Right, exactly. You'd have to get everybody, especially with a global economy, you'd have to get everybody to kind of agree, or you'd have to have some massive system in place to account for everybody

using, or at least two different calendars, if you had some people adopt it and some people didn't. So changing the calendar is not an insignificant thing. So if you find some better way to do it, then, you know, I wouldn't assume that just because this is the way we're doing it is the best way because of that, because there are certainly maybe better ways to do something and it just is too difficult to implement, right?

Right. In fact, the calendar has only been changed a couple of times like, I shouldn't say that because there are probably other cultures that I'm not aware of and we just just from our Western European perspective,

we know of like twice that it was changed in a big way. We used to use the Julian calendar. It switched over to the Gregorian calendar, which is what we use now. Stuff like that. right yeah that makes sense those were big big changes those were big changes and they were I always wonder about those changes because don't have a lot of context for what it did a more recent example is when everybody in or kind of an example when everybody in Sweden switched from left side to right side of the road driving right and how that was chaos for a time oh god that would be yeah geez you get people turning up from intersections onto roads and like oh yeah that's a big thing to ask to ask totally yeah so So I assume it's similar because it affects everybody in a big way when that stuff happens.

Did you find that a lot? Like it was huge and uncomfortable and people were killed and I don't know. What do people do when you change the whole system? Well, it's funny that you mentioned that because when we switched from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar, the reason it happened was because of the fact that, okay, so there's sort of like a history of why is the calendar the way it is and is the day actually as long as we say it is. So there are two different day lengths. I don't know if you know about this.

There's what's called a sidereal day and a sinodal day. Have you heard of this? I've never heard of that. Have you, Brian? So it's a sidereal day. So the way we measure the length of a day is superficially you might think that it's, you look up in the sky, the sun is right there right now. How long does it take to get back to that same point? Oh, okay.

All right. That's superficially how you would think that's how long a day is. But that's not the only way to measure a day even by looking at things in the sky. You could, why choose the sun? Why wouldn't we just choose a star in the sky and do exactly the same thing? Sure, sure. And you might think that, of course, they're going to give you the same length of time because it's the earth that's rotating.

The earth is rotating at the same rate, no matter what object you decide to look at. at but everything in space is all moving right right so that means our our reference point the earth is also moving so if you choose an object relatively close to us and like the sun and in particular with the sun something that is that we are also moving around then you're going to get different values and they found that when you so the sidereal day is the is the is when you use the star as a reference, okay? So let's say you look at a constellation or a star, something that's really, really far away,

and you say, I'm going to look at where it is right now, and then I'm going to mark the amount of time it takes for that star to get into the same point tomorrow. That takes actually, like, 23 and some change hours. It's, like, a little bit less. Right. It's like 23 hours and 50, some minutes or something or

well it's like it's 23 hours 23 and a quarter no no I've got that wrong but it's 23 hours in some in some change I should have written this down I can actually find out hold on while we're talking I'll do that this

so the sinotal day is is different the sinotal day is when you look at the sun right and that averages out to be about 24 hours even though it's actually different every day.

And the reason is really, really interesting. So, and this is kind of hard to visualize. So I'm going to try my best to describe it in a way that's easy to paint a mental picture in your head. But imagine you're looking at a diagram with you've got the sun and then the Earth orbiting around the sun, right? Okay, all right. So the Earth is a circle or a globe or whatever. But for the purpose of this, think about it as a circle. And you've got the point on the circle that's the close.

to the sun it's pointing directly at the sun right now again the sinotal day being that point as the earth rotates it will eventually turn back around to be pointing towards the sun again right right right but so let's let's imagine that you do that takes tic-tok you know 20 something hours right to get back to that point but the problem is that during that time while the while the earth has a rotated to point back at the sun and it's done one full rotation, the Earth has moved forward in its orbit a little bit. So that point, that was the point that was pointing directly at the sun, it's not the same, it's not pointing directly at the sun anymore because the Earth has moved forward in its orbit. Right. It's almost like, you're getting, you're getting to it sooner because the way the Earth rotates and then revolves, it's at a point that's either sooner or later than. than it was because it's catching that point at a different spot. Right, exactly. And it takes, so what you find is that in order for that same point,

so for the earth to rotate on its axis fully one time takes, I looked it up real fast, the sidereal period, it takes 23 hours, 56 minutes in about four seconds. Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of the, right, which is why we have leap day and all that BS. Yeah, yeah, well, that's actually, that's different. there. Oh, it is different. Okay. All right. Well, damn. So this is just the length of a day. And so, so 23 hours and 56 minutes, let's say, is when it takes to get back to its point.

But the extra four minutes is how long it takes for that point on the next day to then now be pointing back at the sun because the Earth has moved forward in its orbit a little bit. Right. So it takes an extra four minutes for, so if you just take the 23 hours and the Earth has moved back around, you're like, oh, not quite. pointed out the sun yet and then it goes points at the sun because you know does it ever go back the other way in other words i don't mean turn the other way but i mean like you hit that point where it faces the sun then it moves forward because the orbit moved moved forward so that exact same spot's not going to be the same does it reset to that exact same spot at some point not reset but you know we eventually have that happen again and then and then there's another four minute difference you know what i'm saying or is it not not is it the one time the one time we faced at that one time if

you're counting time in like microns of seconds or whatever is it the only time will ever have that exact moment of facing it right then does that make sense what i'm trying to say i do know what you mean and and this might be an answer to your question that that amount of time that it takes for the earth to them be pointing back at the sun that that that gap that space of four or so minutes a little bit less than four minutes it's actually not always that that's an average because that extra time is larger and smaller at different times of the year. Oh, okay. And so, and the reason that is is also very interesting, and it has to do with how close

the Earth is to the Sun, because the Earth's orbit is not perfectly circular, it's elliptical. And so, while the Earth is closer to the Sun, it's moving faster in its orbit around the sun. Right. So, every day, it's moved further forward in its orbit. orbit while the earth is closer to the sun. Right. And then when the earth is farther from the sun, it's moving a little bit slower, so it takes a

little bit less time. And so that gap is a little bit shorter. And that moves just at different rates. So on average, you find that it's about 24 hours over the course of the year is how long it takes for. Seems convenient that it takes 24 hours, doesn't it? Yeah, sure does seem convenient. It does seem like we had to, you know, cut some corners to make it work.

My question is, though, is there ever... I'm almost being sarcastic, and the reason it's so convenient is because that's how we define an hour, right? Right, right, right. It's the average amount of time it takes. Yeah, it worked out okay. Yeah, it worked out okay. I guess it's all relative, though, because if we all thought an hour was 52 minutes, that would seem normal to us because that's what we'd have, right? Right, right.

That kind of thing is interesting to me. But what I'm trying to say is, will there ever be a... day where we suddenly go, oh shit, our averages are off. It took too long, or we've done this so long that now we've eked over into too much time or whatever. Is that where the leap year stuff comes in? So, yeah, so that was all about the day. And the reason I wanted to talk about, because it's very interesting to think about something that we're so, we think we're so familiar with, which is how long a day is, but really it's so different and we have to adjust for it. And it actually, the length of day changes all the time and stuff like that. But that

leads directly into the length of a year and the length of a year is not exactly 365 days the length and we're more familiar with this because like you like you said Brian and Scott there's a leap here the length of a year is actually 365 and a quarter days right right so it doesn't quite the amount of time it takes the earth to go over and the reason is and it's even less than a quarter because then we have to have those non-leap year years like the millennium was the 2000 was would have been a leap year year but

but we have that little extra or a little uh differential that I was like oh no every every four years except for every 200 years except for every thousand years or something yeah it's it is exactly right and that's that was that's where I was getting to go all the way back to the switch over from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar that was done by the church because someone in the Catholic Church decided that they didn't, what they were realizing was, okay, so every year we're a quarter of a day off. So you have a leap year to account for that. But like you said, Brian, they started to realize that because they have calendars and

records of the seasons, they started to realize that the certain point in a year, which is marked by seasons, like Easter comes at a certain time or something like that, right? Right. Easter's the big one, big stupid one that is like, oh, which is why this has to do with the Catholic Church, right? Sorry, I got to give a quick credit to Chris in the chat who says, probably Pope Gregory. It's probably right. I love. Damn, Gregory. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. But they, yeah, so they realized, wait a minute, Easter's not falling on the same day of the year anymore as it used to hundreds of years ago. And they didn't like that. Because, you know, everything's supposed to be ordered and exactly. exactly perfect and done in a designed way, right? Right, of course.

So they said, well, we got to, we got to fix this. And so we're going to have to, like you said, Brian, define a leap year as every fourth year. We have an extra day, you know, except for every, you know, if you do the math, every couple hundred years. It's like out of every 400 years on the 100 year, we will, like every 100 years, we will skip a leap year, except for the fourth hundredth year. except for the fourth hundredth year or something weird like that If it's divisible by a hundred but not divisible by 400

It was something like that Yeah Yeah Interesting It was really weird And so that's how the Gregorian calendar is defined Now here's the funny thing

All the All the Catholic countries adopted this Because the Pope said so Right But the non-Catholic countries didn't Countries like

Great Britain and because of that there is a period of time there was one year in the 1700s I think 1750s or something like that where if you go back and look at the the European calendar or the calendar from the United Kingdom they finally decided to switch to the Gregorian calendar on that year and so some month in in the near the fall or at the end of the summer the there's a month that has 11 days missing. Oh, really? Yeah.

So I think it was September. They went from like September 4th to September 15th on the calendar. That's crazy. Wow. And that's how they fixed it. Wow. And it's just everyone in the country had to agree that like if your birthday was September 10th, sorry.

Sorry, we'll celebrate on the 15th. Good luck. Good luck with that. That's crazy. Have you ever seen pictures of the original Gregorian calendar like drawings and stuff? stuff's insane dude what a mess who looks at here I'll give you a link to this

I'm showing the chat right now this is absolutely bananas to me that this is even decipherable there you go look at that thing oh geez it's like the the Mayan thing right where it's shown as a wheel like that

and yeah everyone's into the wheel it's all regular and everything so it should be able to fit into a wheel that's true yeah I mean ours Ours should fit into a wheel as well, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. So all of this comes back to what the question was about,

could we do this with the year, have 13 months, right? And the answer is basically no. Because, well, first of all, the easiest thing, and I think you did this on the show, Brian, was the easiest way to figure this out is multiply 13 by 28, and you get 364, not 365. Right, right. So you'd be missing a day.

Yeah. And you can't just smear that day throughout the year, right? Exactly. Now every day is 24 hours and one 365th longer. Yeah. I like that. And exactly, because you can't just make the Earth rotate slower. Right. Right. Also, you can't just decide that, okay, well, now we're just going to have 364 days in a year because you would quickly run into the same problem that they had with the Julian calendar. And that's what they thought they, that's the thing that we found, that's how they decided to do it. Like, you'd have year day. It would be called year day.

And it wouldn't really be a day that's part of any month or anything like that. It's just on its own, happy year day. Yeah. What are you going to do for year day? And so, yeah, that would be the only way you could do it, right? So you just have to have a day that's outside of time. Like the hidden track on a Wu-Tang Clan album or something. It's like, like, combine it with the whole purge thing.

That'd be the day everybody gets to go kill. God. Okay, great. Let's do it. Purge now has its day and you have the better calendar and we have, you know, now it's easy. It's all our way of saying that Thanos is right. That's right. That's right. It's super, super interesting though. Yeah. Do you know that? Yeah. Go ahead. The day, the day as we define it 24 hours, wasn't defined as 24 hours until the Egyptians. Oh, my. How were we breaking it up then? Well, we just used sundials. We didn't. I. It wasn't really defined as being a number of hours. Gotcha. It was just at this point on the sundial. And in many ways, that's almost, that's fine. Yeah.

Because the only way that becomes a problem is when you're trying to, like, coordinate things, right? Right. Exactly. Because then if you can't use numbers, you can't say, oh, you know, when it's about, when the shadow is about 3 o'clock on the, because you can't have a time. It would be, all right, quarter day, half day, three-quarter day, right? Like, oh, well, I'll meet you for lunch at Sabarro at three-quarter day, and we'll have some pizza. It'll be wonderful. And then I'm sure lots of people are familiar with the fact that it was still technically kind of shadow-based, like where the shadow fell on different things, even up until the industrial revolution.

because everything was just kind of based on where the sun was in the sky. Even the 24 hours was based on the stars. That's what the Egyptians did. They were very mathy civilization, right? So they wanted something more precise than the sun because they figured out that that was a problem. I mean, heaven forbid you have a heavy cloud cover too because that throws everybody's schedule off. Yeah, right. Your sundial just looks like a smear.

my clock stopped working I don't know I don't know what time it is Chaverin saying D-Day would have been a mess and that reminds me the other day I saw that I didn't know this until recently that they delayed it a day for bad weather I didn't know that

Oh really? Yeah I thought that It was supposed to be June 5th really It was supposed to be And then they had horrible weather And so they put it off And I don't know if that means The Germans knew about it

I mean they were prepared sort of I don't know Like everyone thinks that D-D-D-D-D it was like a big surprise. And in some ways, I guess it was. But on the front of just like, well, when do we put the boats in the water and go? That got delayed because weather sucked. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. That's really interesting. I'll look that up. Anyway. But yeah. So industrial revolution with the story is about trains, right? Once trains were becoming a big deal, they needed them to be on schedule. So then that's when everyone decided, well, let's just, let's just base it on. Let's just all. decide our clocks are going to be set to the same time and then and then you make time zones and then everybody's fine but you think there's the phrase right with that that's something like oh as long as the train or the whatever makes the trains run on time or something like that something like that

it sounds familiar to me yeah yeah so the only thing that would ever cause us to as a people as a human race to reset this again or do something new i got to think that would take something major like a complete collapse of society in starting over a meteor so big that wiped out the dinosaurs wipes us out and then wipes out every hallmark yeah yeah mall store with calendars yeah like I think you'd have to say all right we're going to do this at 2,500 like 2,500 feels like a good point for us to switch to this whole thing we're going to need all that time to prepare yeah a couple hundred years to uh to do this and if you do the if you do the right PR campaign then it's in everybody's head. We're always thinking about it. And as it gets closer, the generations have

been preparing to be ready for it. I suppose that works. But you're never going to be like, hey, in 2031 in June, we're changing the whole effing thing. Sorry, everyone, but you'll get used to it. Google will say, well, we've got the first calendar changes. So go ahead and use Google calendar. We'll help you over the hump. Like, none of that's going to happen. We're stuck with this for a while. Thanks, Catholics. You did it. Thanks, Catholic. The, uh, The reason that this is... The reason that this is even an issue to begin with is because, like, the Earth and the Sun, we think about them as being in sync, but the rotation of the Earth has nothing to do necessarily with how quickly it rotates has nothing to do with how quickly it orbits the Sun. But we link them together in the way we define time and everything since then.

has been about trying to to reconcile those differences and reconcile the fact that the Earth's spin is slowing down and all of that stuff, right? Like everything, it's always changing. But then that at the same time with like how precise time keeping needs to be for things like science and computing and everything. So then this way that we have of defining time is, So out of sync with what actually define, like what, how time impacts our day, you know, how the day passing is actually done and what that does.

If we lived underground and we never saw the sun, this in many ways might be easier, you know? Yeah, yeah. So, but because we link time with the passage of the sun and the seasons, then we have to figure out how to reconcile the fact that it's not so precise. and doesn't sync up perfectly. So that slowdown, we're talking cosmic timeline, though, right? Like the slowing down to the earth. Nobody should be at home right now going, oh, shit. It's slowing down.

Not in our lifetimes, but like, we're talking like in the age of the dinosaurs, the day was longer. Sure. And a million years from now, maybe it was shorter. The day was shorter, yeah, because it was spinning faster. So three million years from now, it'll be a little shorter. But even then we're talking tiny bits. We're not talking like a day, right? Or like 24 hours or even maybe not even an hour.

We're probably talking. It's like climate change. It's like people here, people who don't bother to study it, they hear somebody go, oh my gosh, you guys, it's bad. We're up a half a degree this year, Celsius over last year. That sounds like nothing to people. They're like, what do you? What are you kidding me?

My temperature just went down a degree. What's going? They don't understand. Can you real? Then it's not real. Yeah, they're not digging in. But if they did, they'd understand that that is on a cosmic scale. It's so big.

It's huge on a cosmic scale. Whereas also this time, the slowdown thing is just, you know, we all want to see it. We have such a limited time on this planet. We all want to see everything in little, neat little chunks. Kind of like Pope Gregory did. He liked it simple, you know? Yeah. And it ain't so simple.

Because you want to see, you think we're orbiting around the sun. to see what the sun's orbiting around. Holy shit. Exactly. And that's what messes up time travel so much, is that, you know, you're saying, all right, I'm going to go to this exact spot one year from now. No, the Earth is not going to be in the same place because the whole spiral arm is moving and da-da-da-da, like you've got the sun moving, it's the spiral around, blah, blah, blah.

It's, you're going to end up in space floating around, but hey, good job on your time travel. Yeah, well done. That whole aspect. Maybe that's why we haven't, maybe that's why we haven't been visited by time traveling. That's when we've got a pile of time travelers all floating in space behind us. Yeah. Most of our space debris is bones and weird contraptions. There's all calculations that people aren't doing for their time travel,

and they really need to start figuring it out. Yeah. The one thing that always did strike me as possible, it would be things like teleportation, because if you knew the exact spot where something was at the moment you're doing it, that makes sense, right? I'm going to put you on Earth at this time. next to this building on this ground and not embed you into the wall or whatever it's because we know all those factors and that's included in the technology but when it comes to time travel all that shit has moved yeah everything's moved and i think i think you know star trek had it right you we're going to take you we're going to upload you to the cloud and then on the spaceship you're trying to get to we're going to download you from the cloud and reconstruct you right here that makes a lot more sense to me yeah yeah all right well we solve time travel and we now have a better understanding of So now go make it.

And as the chat calls him, Pope Gregg and his bad decisions. Well, there you go. It all comes back to Pope Greg. Pope Greg for Walkman. At least he got the attic when Marsha moved out. Yeah, that's a good point. I'd forgotten that that happened, but you're right. Bobby, let's tell people where they can get more science out of you.

They can squeeze it, excrete it from your body each week. Extrude. Yeah. Where does that come from? What's the show? What do you do? When is it? I'll tell you, as soon as you stop. I'm all done. I'm all done. So you can find my science podcast. It's called All Around Science. My co-host and I, Mora, talk about science every week. And it's, what did we talk about last week? We're always talking about tiny robots, but we made tiny, there were tiny robots that were made again.

And so we like to talk about those. But also we talked about the big feature was we, I talked about large-scale farms and how they compare in carbon footprint to small-scale farms. And the answer might surprise you. Whoa. Good deal. Small-scale farms, remembers. All right, that's excellent.

I can't wait for those episodes and always having you on as a pleasure. Bobby, have a fantastic week. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Bye. See, Bobby. He says thank you like he's at a coffee shop.

love. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. On my latte, on my half-calf, double-hot, extra foam latte. Thank you so much for that. You know what he didn't mention, by the way, and this needs to be mentioned, is one of the other things that you sign up for or can sign up for TMS Vegas is the board game deal. We've got six hours this time, and if you've got a game that you want to bring and you want to host, there's a list for that. If you want to be part of somebody else's game, you want to make sure that, hey, when you play this game, make sure you come find me because I want to play it. There's a place for that. There's a list for that.

So make sure you go to either VivaTMSVegas.com or go to the Discord, the TMS Vegas schedule and sign up. Nice. You can find links to all that at frogpans.com slash TMS. So get in there. Yes. A quick phone call from a listener. This is about the come and go acquisition. from the Maverick people.

Yeah, the Maverick. Here's what he says. Hey, guys. Zinger from Wisconsin here. I actually lived in Iowa for about five years, and we had a come and go in the neighborhood. And I kid you not, it was one of the best and nicest gas stations, convenience stores, whatever the round. Rivals even the legendary Casey's gas station's convenience stores in Iowa. Come and go does sell T-shirts.

My wife has one. It says, come and go, we go all out. I'm going to be sad to see the brand go. It definitely was a highlight of every trip we took through Iowa and then the neighborhood states. Anyway, love the show, though. Have a great there. Yeah, sorry, Maverick is taking it over.

Or Maverick. Maverick, that's what we call it. Maverick, that's what we're, yeah, that's how we're done it. Maverick is going to take it and change it, and you're screwed. It's just Maverick now. But they're very nice. They'll keep the niceness. Like, Mavericks are nice.

They're really good places to stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's not a dump at all, but. no more come and go all right exactly keep those shirts it'd be worth something but at least at least you'll be a wingman any time when you're in a maverick yep and then what's what was the munch and lunch or what was the one down in uh what was that called the one of texas no what we're calling it the uh there's a new there's a place that actually exists called oh right the right the munch and go munch and go is that it i think the munch and go it's not munch and punch and punch it's not munch and punch and punch

I like that, though. That's funny. Anyway, thanks for the call. You guys can call us anytime, 8014710462. If you'd rather send a text, that same number works. And if you'd rather email us, that's the morning stream at gmail.com. However you want to contact us is fine. We're happy to read them, play them, and otherwise respond to them. That is going to do it for us.

As mentioned before, if you want to find anything to do with the show, how to support us, where to find links, all this stuff. You can find it at frogpants.com slash TMS. One of the things we like to do here is leave with a little song in your heart. So, Brian, what do you got? We do indeed. Oh, my gosh. You got so many requests for the end of January.

So some of these are probably going to bleed out into the beginning of February. But this one from I Am Sci-Fi, Ian Levinstein, says, hey, there, banana and split. Is that the one I'm doing? That is the one I'm doing today. I've reached a milestone as of January 28th, and I need a song to go with it. 40 years on this planet. Holy cow. Time does fly.

It also occurred to me that I've been listening to TMS since the start of my 30s. So I thank you, gentlemen, for all the squeeriness, fish sandwiches, and hi-burdoms along the way. You really do make time fly while getting work done. To honor the equation, I'll take any cover you can supply of Green Day's time of your life. Here's to 40 more, at least, love the adobo, Ian slash I am sci-fi. Happy birthday. You get the old lady. Very good.

Can I get a tender crisp bacon, cheddar ranch, he says? He can get that. It is easy to find, and here it is. you're welcome happy birthday dude and one of our favorite community guys he's awesome love that guy he totally is absolutely and every show that he contributes to or pops into uh all right let's get to this this is a cover that came from the um bbc radio one live lounge came out in 2019 it's by a band called wolf alice i love these guys and i really like the the unique timbre of the lead singer's voice i don't know her name maybe her name is alice i don't know but uh go ask alice

and she'll tell you. This is a cover of the song called Good Riddens Time of Your Life by Green Day by the band Wolf Alice. Happy birthday, Ian. Yep, and everyone else who might be celebrating.

And if you're smart about things, you'll be here tomorrow for a whole new episode of TMS. We'll see you then. point the fork stuck in the road Time grabs you by the wrist directs you where to go So make the best of this test and don't ask mine It's not a question but a lesson in London time

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