The Morning Stream - TMS 2593: Phreakin' Phones

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Can I get my leg to go? Silent Subliminals. You're Not Wrong, Exactly. Recies Piecies Yo! Year-round Peeps. Edible grass. He Puts the Jelly Beans in the Basket and... Eats...Grass... A Ridiculous Amou...nt Of Diabetes. Orange Julius by Night. I Don't Own McAfeeeeeeeeee. Bok Bok eggs. The Pen Is Brittle. There is no Morning Stream Tomorrow! Heavy is the Face That Wears the Headset with Tom. Random Freakin' Laser Beams With Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no magic money tree that feeds TMS enough to keep it going. We get that from you, the listeners, people like M, Galen Peru, and Nicholas Headborg. Sign up today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on TMS, can I get my leg to go? Silence subliminals. You're not wrong, exactly. Recy pieces, yo. Year round peeps.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Edible grass. He puts the jelly beans in the basket and eats grass. A ridiculous amount of diabetes. Orange Julius by night. I don't own McAfee. Bok, bach eggs. The pen is brittle. There is no morning stream tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It's true. Heavy is the face that wears the headset with Tom. Random freaking laser beams with Nicole and more on this episode of the morning stream. For only 50 cents you can get where you're going in your town. Route 25 from the city county building to Midvale, where I work. Route 3 to my house. from the Ogden City Mall. It's fruit number five from the university mall
Starting point is 00:01:02 to my next class. So don't forget the exact chain. Mom, I need your advice about duchess. D. M.S. D. The morning stream. What could a young cop like you want with an old fossil like me? Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. Okay, welcome. Welcome. All right. All right. Hey. All right. Did you get what you wanted. All right. Are you all right? It's January 31st. The very end of this month. The year is 2024. I'm Scott Johnson and that's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Hello. Golly. This month went fast, didn't it? Yeah. Like, it just felt like it flew by. We're only six or seven episodes away from 2,600 episodes of the show. Oh, well. Like, are we going to do something Atari,
Starting point is 00:01:59 themed we should right we should that day that's a great idea a little yars revenge or a adventure or something like that i mean you could easily just put that on the background of your screen but uh oh we've got to think about this because what else do you do on 2600 that's it right you got to do something atari themed yeah there's no other there's no other answer to that question i love it all right we're we're going to think of something everybody find um go find your old you know joystick i haven't i have an old 2600 just around the corner in my basement here does it function or is it a just a relic i imagine it would i've got the it's got the the rf thing that has the two little prongs that you have to screw on to the back of a tv that does that so i know that there are things you can get online that
Starting point is 00:02:44 will allow you to plug a 2600 you know basically change that into hdMI or something yeah there's a little block i think done away's probably got extras of those i'm sure he probably does yeah but But I figure, well, I've got all the 2,600 games on my covercade so I can play it there. Oh, yeah, that's true. How often you play that thing? Do you get around to mess him with it here and there? It's been over a year. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Don't tell Mark Spagnolo, because he and I worked so hard on building this thing. I haven't played it and did not play it during 2023 at all, so I need to break it back out. Problem is, like, you know, it's got two joysticks and buttons and stuff. It's made for playing with a friend. Oh, and just didn't have a friend. Oh, and I don't have a friend. There's a lot to come and play downstairs and play the $2,600 with me, or the elevator action or Tetris or whatever.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's a shame. That's right, though. Plus, I need to really upgrade it. I'm pretty sure the Retro Pie had many updates over the year last year, and I need to. It's the only thing I hate about this DIY stuff for games is that the updates, if you don't keep up with them, they can be a nightmarish. because you'll find out one of them. Well, this one broke listing,
Starting point is 00:03:59 so you're going to have to recatalog everything and blah, blah, which is fine. If you're, like, on it all the time and doing it every day and always looking at it, well, then you'll probably keep up with it. But I like a thing where once in a while a company will just notify me. Hey, your firmware is updated. Do you want to apply it? Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I'll do that. Yeah. It doesn't work that way. The smart thing would be like having it up and running all the time so that it automatically, well, I guess it's not on the, why? No, it is on the Wi-Fi. Yeah, it might actually automatically update or something. There's probably ways. I don't know if there's settings you'd have to do. It depends on the software, but I have one of those that's in the exact same boat. It's just, I should go plug it in, but I'm afraid to. I'm afraid it's, like, we'll get hacked the minute it gets on the internet. Right. Can I just have Dunaway come over and do it? I bet he's, like, if there's anybody in our little cluster that knows Retro Pie back and forth, it's got to be Brian.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah, and he's not doing, he's not doing anything. He's not doing anything, right? Take a few days off of work. come out here. Yeah. They can live without you. I'll put you on a bus. Yeah, it's fine. We'll talk to you today when we do Ted Pooley Feud and we'll convince you to come help us with our retro pies.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's right. Probably far easier for me to go out to him, I think. I would think that might be the case. But, you know. Wish we could get him to Vegas. That would be awesome. He might come. It sounds like he's on the edge.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He's on the cusp. You know? We'll have to see. I don't want to bug him publicly because I know that annoys people and I wouldn't want to anyone to do that to do that to me. But we'll do it here. But I do need to know ASA. about Wendy. I know, you know, this is, we probably should talk offline about, oh, you know what, let's, let's start, let's, let's, let's, let's bump that right now. I'm going to say to her on this text, I'm going to say, oh, hey, when do you and Misha get in? Oh, right. Because she probably would have already bought her tickets, right? Yeah. I say, I know I already asked this, but wanted to follow up. Heaven forbid you use the dictation on your phone.
Starting point is 00:05:54 yeah i you know well i'm doing i'm doing i'm doing desktop here okay let's see oh you are okay yeah yeah i use i probably use i message on desktop more than i use it on my phone i do i definitely do on desktop more than i do on the phone love it people probably wonder wow how is he typing replies so quickly yeah it's amazing i have to say them to do it that's how it works uh hey you guys check it out we got a follow up on the whole scissors thing we had the therapy thursday uh discussion and we talked about the fabric scissors now my mom would kill me or whatever if you use the fabric scissors instead of paper scissors on paper. So somebody wrote in, says, I listened to Therapy Thursday when Scott talked about using
Starting point is 00:06:33 his mom's fabric scissors to cut paper or whatever, that reminded me of something I did as a kid. When I was maybe four or five years old, my parents had just got brand new curtains for the front window. Oh, this isn't going to end well. This is going to be bad. Let's see, a window that faced the street. They were still creased. So perfectly that, to me, it looked like paper.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So I grabbed a pair of scissors and started cutting mom's brand new curtains. This happened over 35 years ago, and I still have the memory of her coming in and gasping. I'm visualizing like paper doll cuts so that when you pull the curtains out, it's like a bunch of paper dolls holding hands. Well, then that now even proved it. I say, let the kid have his way and make a big pulled out, whatever. Were you ever good at those? I've seen people do amazing things with cutting paper and then pull it out in the accordion. Yeah, I could never was good at any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, that's a skill I never acquired. Mm-hmm. I don't know what's up with that. You do the random, like, you know, here's a snowflake and... The snowflake ones are the biggies, yeah, and then you've got the people holding hands. You just fold something over, like a little back-and-forth fold and then cut, and you've got people holding hands. But I feel like, is that even a thing that people do anymore? Like, do kids in kindergarten, did Van get to do any of that kind of stuff?
Starting point is 00:07:49 I don't know. I have to ask him. I don't know if he's done a bunch of cutting up stuff probably depends on the school but probably I mean I don't know why that would have changed yeah I would hope so too great and if not
Starting point is 00:08:01 there you go make a thing that looks like little Pac-Man ghosts perfect because you could have them go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth build their own little Pac-Man level I like it I can say this though
Starting point is 00:08:15 there's a dude a dude what I follow on TikTok on the TikTok there and he does this thing where someone sends him a photo of someone famous or of themselves. It doesn't matter. Just a reference photo. And then on camera, he in real time takes a piece of paper, folds it in whatever fold he makes, without moving away from the camera, takes these pier of scissors, and makes, does all the cuts,
Starting point is 00:08:39 and then opens up that sheet of white paper. And it's now a portrait of whoever it is. Really? And it's so good. It's so good. Like, I don't know what's going on over there with that guy or what his deal is, but. sign me up for whatever he's having because that's impressive that's so impressive yeah that's really crazy anyway it ain't me it ain't you it ain't me babe is your uh is your uh is your for some
Starting point is 00:09:01 reason google docs says trying to connect are you getting that on your end or is it just no i'm i'm i'm in okay well that's a that's an unfortunate bit of weirdness let's see if i can fix that uh let me know it's there a way to maybe it won't matter maybe it's just confused i don't know it's letting me scrolls that's all that matters uh then we got a simple uh text or question here, Scott says, okay, so here's the entirety of the text. I'm going to read it the way it was sent to us without any changes or embellishment or anything. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Here we go. And they didn't, oh, they left a name. This is from someone named Needles. Here we go. Needle says, Scott says, you're not wrong a lot. Brian says exactly a lot. Love the show, though, Needles. Well, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Exactly. All right. Brian, help me out with the next thing I'm going to show you. All right. Good? Couldn't do it, could you? You just couldn't do it. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It was too deadpan. I couldn't do it. It was too well executed. Exactly. It was too bottled up. Props to Brian, though. That was the way to do it. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Inside baseball, we saw this thing in the notes, and I said, let's just deadpan respond. You're not wrong. Exactly. And just move on. thing and uh yeah i will say here's a little subnote to that if you're gonna if you're gonna just send us a thing that just says that we do a thing a lot i mean i don't know i don't know how to respond to that other than yeah okay we do i don't know i guess i say you're not wrong a lot i brian says exactly a lot what are you going to do i used to say absolutely a lot so i am i'm
Starting point is 00:10:38 all about the definitive responses there is no you get no halfway with me there's no gray area it's either absolutely exactly yeah i'll start going A-Firmative. Do that. A-Firmative. What movie was that? Oh, it was Newt in aliens. Aliens.
Starting point is 00:10:58 A-fermative. And she'd put her hand up on her dumb hat. She was wearing. I think she's wearing Hicks's helmet or something. So yeah, that's, you know what? That's the new plan. Instead of saying you're not wrong, I will say, you are certainly not incorrect.
Starting point is 00:11:15 All right. Excellent. That'll be the plan moving over. Yes. All right. Final thing, this. Okay. Before we get to Tabilly Feud, you got to help me with this.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I get this attachment via our text line. Normally, if I get a voicemail there, it's just a voicemail file. It's like a, you know, a call. But this was an attached MP4 or MP3 or something. Oh, really? Attached to, okay. Which you can do. It supports attachments. I've never gotten an audio attachment through there,
Starting point is 00:11:40 and I tried it on myself to send it to myself, and it didn't work. So I don't know how this person did it. And also the number. The number is blocked, so there's no, I can't. No, no, is he can't even. And this is what sound came through. Oh, my God, hold up. Before you play it.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah. Little, did you feel a little nervous playing a thing that was attached to a, like a file that was attached to a message? A little bit. A little bit. That's, in fact, I opened it with, what's that software? I have some software that'll take, like, files and see if there's something not what they say they are. Looking for malware or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah. And I don't remember what I call it. It's on my PC. I'd jump back and forth, but it basically said, no, it's just an audio file. And sure enough, it just plays, but it's weird. So I'm going to play it. For me, for me, it must be McAfee,
Starting point is 00:12:28 because I didn't think I had McAfee, but, God, I keep getting these reminders to pay for it. And I'm so glad that McAfee keeps a reminder, people keep reminding me to pay for McAfee. Because otherwise, I'd have no idea that I had Maccalfe. Yeah, you wouldn't even know you had it on there. Wouldn't even know I had it. All right, please, continue with the audio file.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's its own brand of malware in itself that McAfee. That's right. All right. Here's the sound. You help me decipher this. Here we go. All right. What do you make of that?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Wow. Okay. Well, we just triggered somebody who's going to shoot the senator a la Manchurian candidate. Tom in the chat says it's a bong. It's not a bong. I don't think. No, I don't think it's a bong. It does not sound like liquid.
Starting point is 00:13:18 It sounds like. It sounds like somebody with it in their shirt pocket in a noisy Starbucks. That sounds like that. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah, like that sound your phone will make when you get butt dialed sometimes. Right, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But why would they attach? Yeah, like they'd have to knowingly attach it. So it might be... I love bio cows. BioCow says, well, that's a badger eating chicken wings. as if it's just the most natural answer. You know what? That's as good as anything else. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:13:55 That's freaking weird. And why would you send me that? If it was a call, I could understand because it's a butt dial. I get those sometimes. Right. In fact, I have one. Tomato sauce boiling. That's pretty good, actually.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Tomato sauce boiling. Everyone picture tomato sauce. I'm going to play it again. Okay, that, you know what? All right. In the right kitchen with the right echo. And the wrong microphone. And the wrong mic.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Oh, that's weird. Anyway, whoever sent that, I don't know if I should thank them, if I should. Yeah, that's fantastic. Okay. Bemoaned them for doing what they did. I don't know. It's very weird. Anyway, there's a subliminal carrier in there, you think, Houdini Sevent, seven?
Starting point is 00:14:36 I mean, I don't know what to, how would you decipher a subliminal carrier? You know? Yeah. I don't even know what that is. Is that a thing? A subliminal carrier. let's see what it is. It is
Starting point is 00:14:49 silent subliminals. How to make your own subliminal free. Well, I mean, none of this is helping me. There's only the silence in a moment. It doesn't say anything about subliminal carrier anywhere. I don't know. Like, you know, what was the thing that Steve Jobs used to do before he became successful?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Oh, phone freaking. Oh, right. Yes. P.H.R.E.A.K. Yeah. Yeah, could it be that? Some kind of phone freaking recording? Should be.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I don't know. I thought that was just beeps, you know, where they just, oh, they say slow it down? I could slow it down. You think it's an odd, like a thing like that, like a... I have no idea, dude. The whole thing, the whole thing is weird to me. Anyway, if you're someone out there who sent this
Starting point is 00:15:39 or know that this came from you even accidentally, can you write in, I need a, I need resolution on the, on the mystery. It's not much to ask, is it? No. You can send us some weird shit. You should be able to explain yourself. That's how I look at it. Like, and feel free to wait a couple days.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So there is a mystery that we can enjoy. Yeah. And then, and then follow it up a couple days later, which is what it was. Yeah, if you don't mind. Okay. Yeah, please. Tell us all about your soup boiling on the stove or whatever it is you did. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:11 All right. Dunaway is being rung. And if you know what that means, well, then you know what's coming. Brian Dunaway joins us all the way from South Carolina. Brian, welcome back to the Tad Pooley feud. Hi. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. How are you today?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Good, man. How are you? Not too bad is hump day, and I'm ready to say hump it. Are you sick of getting beat by the community in Unreal Tournament? Are you sick of that? Getting sick at beat, being beat. Have you not checked out my player stats on the Unreal? tournament server?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Hmm. Well, I'll have to look. I am a massive, I am a massive tool. I believe it. I'm going to play you. We need to play before Saturday or Friday. I don't know when we're doing this, but we got to get in there and get you in your going. What are you doing tonight, your big, you big, uh, Gibbhead?
Starting point is 00:17:08 That might work after. I have to be after DTNS, but I'm sure we could work that out. You know what? Let's talk. Because I would love to, I want to rock your world so that you'll be humble. when we do the show on Friday about that game. I look forward to my humbling. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I look forward to humbling. Whoops, sorry, go ahead. I was thinking about you the other day. So Tina, while we're trying to get a listener added to this thing, I was thinking about you other day. Tina and I are currently watching a show called The Other Two. And it's basically, it's a comedy show on HBO third season about a family where the youngest kid is like this popular Justin Bieber. kind of like just rose shot up to popularity and his older two siblings i'm liking i'm liking so
Starting point is 00:17:53 far that is my mind you did i think of you yeah but i'll tell you i'll tell you where i'm why i'm thinking of you in a second but his older two siblings are kind of like the i'm not really forgotten children but they kind of are in shadow of his of his limelight and it stars molly shannon and ken ken uh what's his face from party down who's hilarious and um well the i'm already in Molly, that's it. Molly Shannon, and she's great in there. She's the mom, basically.
Starting point is 00:18:21 But there's this guy in there that Scott and I definitely know from She-Hulk and Arrow and a couple of other things. A guy named Josh Cigara. Oh, that guy, dude. Yeah, the guy who talks like this, you know, every time. Anyway, and I wish I captured it out. But so Molly Shannon is invited the whole family over to watch the premiere of a movie in her house. She's got like this movie theater room. and she's like, hey, what kind of snacks does everybody want?
Starting point is 00:18:49 And Josh Chigara goes, Rees, pieces, yo. That guy's amazing. I'm going to have to capture it. It's a thing for a reason, people. That guy's great because we've said it before, but if you look at him, he does not sound how he looks. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:07 There's a little scene with him and overboard. I wish it was the Riesies pieces, yo. It sounds like, Sounds like Jesse Pinkman a little bit. But it's funny how he's, yeah, kind of. But he sounds exactly the same in everything that he's in, and he's fantastic. That's amazing. You know, I didn't make up the word, Recy P.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I hear it all the time where I'm at. So it doesn't know. The fact that you even leave off the S. You're the only person I know who leaves off the first S and calls it Recy P. Yeah. Recy Peeces. Yeah. And now it sounds normal to me because we've heard him do it so much.
Starting point is 00:19:45 what you think happens to me you don't even think anything about it's like I guess it's the word we're using I guess it's the way we're saying it yeah if I see a bag of them well how would you pronounce Kelly 138 hi Kelly 138
Starting point is 00:19:57 just like that would you okay good you got it right hi Scott and Brian oh hi we got a oh my gosh I think we're done doing the show now we've been
Starting point is 00:20:06 out outvoiced yeah right inception thank you for letting us call in your show yeah no kidding it's good to have you here your first timer to the fun here. Second time, actually. It was a while ago, though. Oh, it must have been a while. I don't remember having you on before.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It's been a while. All right. Well, you're going to, it's going to be a memorable visit today because Brian's got prizes for you. If you win. Brian, will you explain how this works and what he might get? Sure. It's time to play the tadpull a feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian Knapp predict the answers that they gave us. And it is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Kelly, 138, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with. with Scott or Brian, and if your team wins, you'll get a prize package. That includes the games unpacking and WW2K23, which I think has a mini-game, has a mini-game where you have to get Vince McMahon out as quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're currently winning that mini-game in real life, so. Yeah, it's basically how quickly could you leave the building when allegations come up? Yeah, also. That's the best games we've had. I don't know about unpacking. Is it just a game where you unpack suitcases or something? Kind of, yeah. It's sort of. It's one of the most affecting little indie games I played last year. It was so sweet. It's so good at storytelling because you get to learn about the character through the unboxing of the packages. And it doesn't hold your hand too much. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah, this is cool. Oh, yeah. The video I'm watching is like them unpacking a dorm room and putting all their stuff on the, the walls and in drawers and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Oh, it's kind of cool. It's very cool. Yeah, really good game. It sounds stupid on the surface. You're like, oh, that's dumb. And then you start playing. You're like, I'm in love. This is a thing where if Tina saw me playing this,
Starting point is 00:21:57 she'd be like, how come you can't put stuff away in real life like you're doing this video? Yeah, this is the sort of thing that would annoy my wife as well if I was playing it too much. And guys, it's just Kelly. Just Kelly's fine. Oh, okay, Kelly. Just Kelly's fine. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Whatever, whatever, Mr. one, two, three. Were there 137 Kellys before you or is there some significance to the one three eight? No, I'm a big fan of the Misfits and we are 138. Oh, my favorite song. That's great. There you go. A little music connection for you there.
Starting point is 00:22:26 That's great. Love that. Are you wearing makeup right now? I am not wearing makeup. No, no double lock either. So, yeah. Man, I'm suddenly. Real quick, you were talking in a, you were talking, yeah, thanks, Brian.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You were talking in a pre-show about melanoma. My dad was diagnosed of metastatic melanoma. back in 2012. Yeah. And, and he was given six months to live, and that was 12 years ago. Oh, geez. So, yeah. Good for Survivor.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. Chemotherapy and two craniotomies, and the immunotherapy, it completely saved his life. Oh, man. Yeah, he's thankful for every day. I don't like the sound of cranotherapy. That sounds bad. Craniotomy. He had two brain surgeries.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They had to cut open his head and pull out tumors out of his brain, but yeah, he's doing great. Damn. Dude. All right. Well, look at that. Yeah, he is a legend. Holy crap. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Do they make it easier? Like the first time, do they put, like, Lego connectors or something like that so that the second time they can get in there really easily? The second time was the weird one, because that's one they actually had to wake him up and actually asking questions because they were working on the left side of the brain where the language center is, and they wanted to make sure they didn't cut out part of that. Is your dad really, Leota? Right.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Exactly. That's what I reference every time. Whenever he forget something, I'm like, that's okay, Pop, don't worry about it. That's just the part they cut out. Oh, my gosh. Damn, dude. That's insane. a lot yeah all right well i'm glad i did they okay one last question about it and then we'll move on i as a joke
Starting point is 00:23:50 asked the old guy when he took out my my hunk of skin i said can i keep that is that a thing i can keep he said no he says we don't do that probably want to analyze it or something yeah is i am i the only person like did your dad ever ask hey can i hang out of that tumor it's like a little symbol of my survival that kind of thing or any of that no he didn't but it's because they needed to take it for biopsies they needed to see exactly like what type of tumor and cells and everything it So they had to do some cytology in order to do that. And then the second time was because they weren't sure if it was tumor or if it was just necrosis from all the treatments that he had.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Oh, right. So, yeah. So they actually had to test it also now. He couldn't keep any of it. All right. If I ever have an amputated. If they ever amputated anything off of me, I'm keeping it because it's mine. I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Sure. If they say, hey, we got to take the leg. Sorry, I'm going to go, well, I'll be taking that leg when you're done. That's how it's going to be. You do, you do know how things rot, right, Scott? Can you wrap that up for me, please? I won't let it rot. I'll do full preservation.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Oh, yeah. You're going to stick it in the freezer next to the wedding cake. I think he's going to make a, like, fill a bathtub with resin and then put the leg in there. Yeah. And let the resin harden and have like the coolest damn paperweight ever. Okay, Brian's speak in my language. That's exactly what we want to do. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Well, anyway, let's get to this game before we went out of time. Oh, I thought this was the game. We actually have a game. We actually have a game. Sorry, I derailed it. No, you're fine. That's totally fine. All right, guys, put your hands on your buzzards and answer this.
Starting point is 00:25:20 We asked 453 tadpoolers to name a candy that's only available. Brian Donaway. Recy Peasies. Show me Recy Peasies. That's only available. I'm sorry, I'll repeat the whole question for Scott. Name a candy that's only available during. the holidays. Oh, the holidays. I thought you were to say Halloween. That's funny. Um, I got,
Starting point is 00:25:49 during the holidays, not the holidays, just during holidays. So during holidays. Right, exactly. So I don't want you to think it's only during that time of year during Christmas time or anything. Oh, my gosh, this is hard. During holidays. Are you kidding me? Well, all right. Let's do. Well, let's do. Think of a holiday. There's like Jesus. He says. That's great. Just go for Christmas and then go, what do I eat at Christmas. You're off the shug, so you haven't been forever. No, that's true. You know what I'm going to say? Okay, so back in, I don't know if they still do this, if you can get it all year or not, but when I was like, can I just, can I just win? No. My wrong answer is better than this no answer. Slurp my butt. I'm going to say the, the, the, the, those British Easter eggs you get, the
Starting point is 00:26:34 chocolate Easter eggs are you can't get any other time. Kinders. Are they Kinders? Is that what you want to with or are they a little more specific who is the one with the one bach bach bach okay okay good all right that's the one that's what I needed
Starting point is 00:26:50 uh all right show me show me those weird British eggs bachbock bach oh yeah a canberry cream egg I'm sorry Kelly I should have waited for the full question oh that's amazing
Starting point is 00:27:03 all right Kelly you are now settled I mean you are teamed up with Scott Johnson And good luck. I love how everyone else is making it sound easy. This is hard. I don't know what.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I can't think of too many of these, but Kelly, do you have any that are? Oh, candy canes. It's got to be number one. It's got to be number one. Duh. All right. Yeah, that's a good one. I see, they have like tropical flavors during the year, but you're right, the
Starting point is 00:27:27 peppermint ones. Who's either candy cane and like April scotch? Nobody. Can I have one of those tropical flavored candy canes in August? Show me candy cane. Okay. That's number two. Oh, I know number one.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'll bet number one is candy corns. Candy corn. The Halloween candy corn. Oh, that, yeah, I was going to say, that's what they said. That was candy corn. Yeah, candy cane, candy corn. Candy corn. By the way, somebody wrote Candy cane, and I think that's my favorite inadvertent port title, by the way.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Show me, Candy corn. Wow. Marcy's Playground. Yeah, number one answer right there. I love Marcy, Marcy Playground. Marcy, it's not Playground. Marcy's. Marcy's.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Marcy's. Marcy's. Marcy Playground? Marcy Playground. Marcy Peeces. Whatever. I love that. I love that fan.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Marcy Prices. All right. Kelly, got one? Yes. Got one there? We'd have to go. Peeps? Oh, peeps.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Peeps. See, I know for a fact. I know for a fact you can buy those all year, but I get the point that someone might vote for a peep because that makes sense. Well, originally, just around during Easter, right? Because they were little chicks, but now you can get, like, I don't know. Can you really get those year-round peeps? I'm starting to get this impression that Scott's local candy store has all the candies all year round.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Because this is not typical. This is not typical the rest of the country. You can easily just go on Amazon and buy a four pack of peeps. It's not like a seasonal. You certainly can. But I think you can, in Halloween times you can get pumpkin peeps and you can probably get there some sort of Christmas peeps you can get. You can also eat Halloween candy in April. I wouldn't recommend it.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's probably old. Oh, my, my mom actually gave out Halloween candy that was from April, April, like, 2019. And I bit into an almond joy. And you know how usually the almond is the hardest thing in an almond joy? No, the coconut had turned into a hockey puck. Oh, my God. Was the almond chewy too? That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Right? They've switched. All right, peeps, show me marshmallow peeps. Yeah, so far, the four worst. The four worst candy. were your top four right there. Okay. How about
Starting point is 00:29:42 these are too specific. All right, I'm going to say... I like Conversation Hearts. Oh, those are good. Those are perfect. Yeah, let's do that. Cool. I didn't know that's what those were called.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Is that what they're called? Conversation hearts, yeah, because they say be mine and love you and stuff like that. All right, show me those sweethearts, candy heart, conversation hearts. Oh, pretty nice. I think we're doing just fine, Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I don't know what you were worried about. You guys are doing just fine, yeah. I would give most of the credit to Kelly. You can say we, but it's Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. Let me ask. Kelly is a song called Kelly. I never heard that before.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I think you've only been on here once before, and I'll bet you at that point. We did the K-E-L-L-Y. Why? Why? Why? Why? Because you're Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. Yeah, pretty much. How about they're seasonal jelly beans and stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Jelly beans themselves are seasonal for the most part. Are they? For what holiday, though? God, Scott? Where do you live? Let them get to it. Are jelly beans tiny? Are they tiny Easter eggs?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Has that always been true? I don't know what they're for. I don't know what they're for. Kelly, how does that sound? Your lack of candy knowledge is just. Beans are more eaten during the Easter season, yes. Okay. Let's do them.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Jelly beans. All right. Show me jelly beans. Oh. Easter thing and, yeah, unfortunately, a number, what was it, 12 or 13? No, 12 was jelly beans. You can get to me around, especially the jelly belly or the multi-flavor, Harry Potter, bugger beans or whatever they're called, but primarily, primarily a thing that you put in the Easter basket with that shitty,
Starting point is 00:31:38 plastic grass so that, you know, your kids have something to eat with me. I love the edible grass. You guys ever get that? No. We started getting that here in Colorado just a few years ago. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, the edible grass. Not that kind of grass.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Oh, gotcha. Okay, yeah, maybe not that. You know, it's like 20 states now. About 20 states have edible grass. We can just get it. We're going to Vegas. They have edible grass down there. They have edible grass there, too. Yeah. No, we never did. That's something that the dispensaries need to make. is edible grass that looks like plastic easter grass.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It'd be great. Probably smell bad. It's a problem. Yeah, probably. But I know this. It looked like green Big League chew is what it looked like. When we were young and also with my own kids, that grad, the crappy little papery grass that you would put in those things, you'd find that stuff like at Christmas under
Starting point is 00:32:28 the couch or stuck to a drapery somewhere. It was the worst. Or the worst is when your dog eats the inedible grass and then it comes out the other hand hanging. You're like, oh, no, right, yeah. That's not good. All right, done away, you've got to try now. All right. I think I'm going to go with the hollow chocolate bunny rabbit.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Sure. Shit. You got to eat those tail first so you can hear the rabbit scream. Show me chocolate Easter bunny. Yeah, chocolate Easter eggs, chocolate Easter bunnies. Basically, I'm talking about those hollow things that make you feel like you're getting a lot of good chocolate for your money, but you're not. You're getting the thinnest possible. Piece of chocolate you can possibly.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yes, you are. I'm going to stay with, Easterdust has some of the most unique candy that you would only want to eat then. Like, I love Robin Eggs. Whoppers sells a really good version of it. Yeah, the melted milk. Yep, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Show me Robin Eggs. Oh, it's a few people are missing out. Number 22 on the list. Yeah. Okay, how do we feel? feel about those aren't going to work well if if a if a chocolate bunny is specific is i got to ask brian this is chocolate santa different than a chocolate bunny oh good question yes oh i don't know if that gives me confidence though the way he said yeah yeah if i had to think about it that's probably
Starting point is 00:34:00 a clue right there yeah i love reading ib it is my favorite part of this game yeah i guess if somebody would have said that i would treat it as a different answer You got it. What are those little, what are those called? Gosh, dang it. They're little, I don't know what they're called. I don't even how to describe them. They're like hard or bark chocolate kind of, but they're peppermint flavored.
Starting point is 00:34:25 You only can see them around Christmas. You guys know what I'm talking about. It's like a pepperment bark. You just know it? Yeah, he's peppermint bark. Something that's peppermint flavor? Is that what it's called? I really have fallen.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I have really fallen out of the candy knowledge. How do you have the shug problem? You don't even know what candy is. My shig problem comes from rice and pasta, man. It's not a candy thing. But anyway, I think that, let's do that. The peppermint bark today. All right, show me peppermint bark.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Boo! It was number 14. Puppermint bark is a seasonal candy, but other answers beat it, surprisingly. All right. Done away at you again. I'm going to go with some goody, goody gum drops. is like to put on the gum drop tree at Christmastime.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You can get the rest of your two, but I wouldn't. You stick them on your gingerbread house, right? You can stick them there. We do a little traditional thing here. We got like a thorn bush. You can stick them on the hose and make little. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Do you grow up as a tree? It's the old tradition, Brian. You take your gum drops and you put them on the old thorn bush outside. Well, see that's the old Christmas thorn bush. That teaches the kids a lesson. We call that the... I try to take my king.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Exactly. Don't just bite the gum drops off of the thornbush. Learn the lesson, kids. When I was a kid, we called it the yule bush. Anyway, go ahead. We call it the owie sticky. Yeah. You know, that bush has gotten smaller and smaller over the years. Show me gumdrops. Oh, no goody-goody gum drops. Come on. I don't think anybody said gum drops. I'm looking through the list here. No gum drops.
Starting point is 00:36:02 All right. How does my grandma had a bunch of ribbon candy? now that just seems like old lady candy but i think it was right around christmas right is that all it is all right so i don't know my aunt always makes me peanut brittle every single christmas oh peanut brittle i think peanut brittles a good one because this this list doesn't say anything that it can't it doesn't have to be store-bought well even then you can get peanut brittles so yeah let's do peanut burl penis penis okay did you say something i said my penis is brittle i got to go to the doctor's what i thought you said yeah all right All right, show me, show me peanut, brittle.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh, Frank. Oh, man. All right, that was your third strike. Brian, you've got one last chance to get some points on the board. Scots currently beating you 19 to 7. Oh, nice. Good job. Kelly's beating me by that many points.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's right. Let's be, yeah, exactly. Let's be clear on who's beating him. Boo. And remember, I sub to your Twitch channel, just by the way. Oh, my gosh. Oh, in that case, I'm going to totally going to throw this. No. But I am having trouble. I'm having trouble because Scott's shooting me the birds like crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. Don't worry. I'm just fixing the borders on it. You're good. Keep talking. My favorite thing is, oh, like those, but it didn't go well for you guys. Those fudge, those chocolate or fudge dip Oreos, those are really cool. Oh, yeah, we only, I only ever see those at Christmas, the fudge dip one. Yeah. But they're often, they're often given by somebody, right? They're or made of it. I don't, but I don't want to say that because that didn't work out so good. So I'm going to go, did we say kinder, um, did we say kinder eggs? Is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You can tell us if we did. Okay. Kinder eggs, please. All right. Show me. Oh, don't choke on that toy kid. Ah, Kinder eggs. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They sell them all year round, but I usually only give them to your net time. So I Mac head in the chat just said chocolate oranges. I'll bet that's on here, isn't it? Chocolate orange, of course. That's my favorite. Dang it. What about cinnamon hearts? You got to whack it down on the table and then it splits into pieces.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah. Sinman hearts, no cinnamon hearts, surprisingly. Let's look at number five. Recy peanut better eggs. Peanut better eggs. Okay. I love those. Those are fantastic.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And then number six, Recy pumpkin cups. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Reesies. And the Reese's trees. Let me tell Reese's trees are 10. Reese's trees were number 11, which is really funny. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:42 This one, here is one that I say, I don't think of as seasonal. It is number 10, chocolate-covered cherries or cherry cordials. No, I eat those all the time. Enough people, yeah, exactly, enough people said that they were seasonal. It's like, oh, really? Okay, all right. It's because they go on sale at Walmart for a box of them for like 50 cents. So you can buy, like, you can buy a ridiculous amount of diabetes for, like, so.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Right. Whole box. Um, all right. So let's take a look at, uh, some of the answers you didn't, uh, get here. Uh, fruit cake. I would argue that's not really candy. Uh, it's filled with candies, but, uh, sometimes filled with rum. Um, Mars upon pigs, that's a, you guess, a Norway thing, mint, mint, M&M's, you get around
Starting point is 00:39:27 Christmas time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, ribbon candy was on the list, but number 21. almond roca is on the list there Brocks mellow cream pumpkins Oh those are great Cadbury around Halloween apparently makes something
Starting point is 00:39:42 called scream eggs which are like Cadbury cream eggs But they're pumpkin spice I'm guessing Clever girl Yeah That's right Caramel apples Somebody says chocolate turkeys or turkey shaped candies Sometimes available Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:39:55 Never heard of such a thing Peppermint Nuget Let's see Oh, okay. Oh, somebody did say cinnamon hearts. Okay, there's that. Circus peanuts. No, I think you can get that hot garbage year round.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Oh, yeah, there's no limit to where you can get that. Corn nuts count chocolate cereal. That's, uh, neither of those are candy. Yeah, but I love them and they are very seasonal. Eggnog flavored anything. Again, you're stretching the, uh, you're stretching the, uh, gingerbread twigs. Now we're back on track. Um, somebody said something called haven't hash.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Have you heard of Havent Hash? Haven't Hash. That sounds like another edible. Another thing from Colorado. Yeah, edible grass. That's something I've ever heard of. Those little lifesaver storybooks that you get around Christmas time. You open up and have a little role of life.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's a tradition. Yeah. Let's see here. Peanut Brittle. Peppermint Oreo-like cookies. Kind of similar what you're saying. Red Hots. Oh, Red Hots, baby.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Well, those are all here. Red Hots. Selection boxes. Maybe just a British thing. Yep, sure. Speculous biscuits. Yep, that's another just a British thing. Speculous.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Gross. That doesn't sound good at all. You can get speculose candy or the cookie butter. You can't get that here. Really? Yeah. Oh, I do love the speculous cookies. The cookie butter, really.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Why do they call it speculous? They have the other one that, or when they call them digestives. What's wrong with British people? Yeah. People are weird, man. Names you give shit. And finally, let's do somebody in all caps, Violet Crumble Santa. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:39 That's probably an Australian thing. Never heard of that. But I do know this. Here's the good news. Oh, go ahead, Donaway. What do you like? I like that Scott's giving digested as a hard time when we have something called candy corn. But doesn't everyone have it because we force our culture on others?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Don't they all have it now? I think that's what happens. What's worse? Candy floss or candy corn? Candy floss? Yeah. I think that sounds terrible. I do not want candy floss.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I've already have enough dental problems. Anyway, this is the good news right here. Where is it? Congratulations. You're a winner. You won and Dunaway did not. Let's make that clear. The good news is you won all these codes.
Starting point is 00:42:25 The other one? What did you say? Say it again? I said, I'm over 40. Don't I get the other one? Oh, no. That's only for your birthday, but we can give you that. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Hey, I know. There you go. Now you're old. Here's the deal. You get all these games, and Brian's going to just DM them directly to you later here in a second. I'm doing it right now. Yep. And you're going to be happy because they're actually excellent games.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And I'm glad that Brian Dunaway had such a poor performance today. Have a fantastic time. We'll see you next time. Hey, Donaway, listen up, dude. We are playing Unreal Tournament this weekend for Play Retro. We're literally going to play it first, and then we're going to have a big discussion about it. All jokes aside. Whether or not I beat you or not, doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:43:02 What really matters is, that game's rad, and we're going to dive deep. And also, we're going to question why they have let that languish. I call it, Fortnite killed it, but we'll talk more. Of course. Yeah, Fortnite definitely killed it. That's where the crew that was making the 2014 Unreal Tournament 4, they got recruited, and they went over to Fortnite, and that's what you get. That's what you get.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Those guys can kiss my hairy butt. But wait, Retro Gibb, G. that's where we can get all the information for the play retro unreal tournament server retro we're running right now yep some say jib we say gib and uh i i say i say give so that no one miss spells it yeah i've always said you're not going to misspell gibb you might misspelled jib that's true i always say gibb uh have since doom days so gibb is what it is as far as i care uh but go there check it at retrogib dot com dot com dot com dot com dot com dot com dot com and uh join the server, play with us. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And even the bots are good, because Unreal Tournament had great bots. Anyway, done away, kiss our butts. Oh, you. Yeah. Enjoy those Recy PCs, yo. You got to cap that. Speculous, by the way, I thought was English, but no, they are. And now they think about it, they come in windmill shape, so they're Dutch. Oh.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Sometimes German or Belgian, but originally those Dutch windmill cookies. You know those that, like, have, sometimes have slivered almond, cinnamon stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know what those are. And you're right. And it does come from the term speculum, but more from its meaning of mirror because they were usually rolled out, like a big rolling pin would roll out a ton of these cookies already cut out and shaped because the rolling pin had indentations. But not the hooter tube, medical tube. Not the hooter tube.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's good. You don't want the hooter tube. Trust me. No. They're cold. Also, we found out the other day. So Kim had, I think Carter told me this. Anyway, Kim had her mammogram, and it's cold.
Starting point is 00:45:06 The thing is cold. Yes. And we found out in France, they only used warmed, constantly warmed mammogram machines. Really? Yeah, what the hell? And they have socialized health care, which is pretty nice. But you put your boob in there, and it's not immediately freezing. It's not a nice little.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It's not a nice little. They still got to clamp it down. They still got a pancake kid. Yeah, it's so painful as hell. but at least it's not cold and painful. That's right. It's warm and painful. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And Carter, how do you feel about circus peanuts? Yeah. You ate them at the theater. You got a pretty... Yeah, she loves them. I don't know what her deal is. Her whole life since a little kid. Circus peanut is her jam.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They're delicious. Oh, my gosh. And you have a theater that sells circus peanuts? Yeah, we have a theater to get you whatever you need. Brian, they get drugs. What do you need? What do you need? What do you need?
Starting point is 00:45:55 I got everything right here. I got circus peanuts. I got a meth ball. Anyway, she went and saw Godzilla minus one black and white like you did. Oh, nice. Now she's seen both then, right? She's seen both black and white in color.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Which did you prefer? Both have really cool stuff. Yeah? But I will say there were parts that was really dark in black and white where you could see less. Oh, really? Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Okay. So the other one's a little more visually readable. I mean, that makes sense. That was true of black and chrome. Yeah. Black-pointed Godzilla Yeah Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:46:30 It's got to be way more intimidating and dark, right? Brian, you said that I think you mentioned that He's a lot more ominous I mean I didn't see both So I had nothing to compare it to But yeah Like when you first see Godzilla
Starting point is 00:46:42 Coming out of what he comes out of In black and white It feels way scarier Than I imagine it would have felt in color Oh, I can't wait to see either one Or both Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:53 I will see both And quit eating circus peanuts Are bad for you All right. I know you're an adult and you get to choose your own eating. Oh, you went and got it somewhere else. All right. They don't have it that theater.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I miss appropriated some theater things. We're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, Tom Merritt's going to join us. We're going to talk some tech. And then we got our recommendals all lined up. So all this is coming up after this song break, Brian Broad. What did you bring? Yeah, I got indie pop female pop singer because this is kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:24 this is becoming kind of my will help. whether it's like clero or um mitzky there's a lot of there's a lot of great indie pop artists that i like that happen to be female singers and so it's becoming kind of a thing for me um here's another one and i can't tell where's she from uh she is from because i always like saying that uh it's not in the first few paragraphs so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna know um she's got a brand new album coming out called chasing daylight uh It's going to be really good. Based on this song, it's going to be really good.
Starting point is 00:48:00 This happens to be the title track. Lauren Minier and Chasing Daylight. seem to make progress No matter how fast I crawl to you I don't know where I am going darling I can't see my way out I'm chasing daylight Because I don't feel right
Starting point is 00:48:48 I've seen the sunrise In a long time I get so tired I keep on fighting. I want to be all right. I'm chasing daylight. Just want to be all right. I'm chasing daylight. I guess there's no going back now. I guess there's no going back now. I've got to see this thing through Even if I don't know how I know I've got to go back to you I may not know where I'm going darling But I can't see my way out
Starting point is 00:49:48 I'm chasing the light Because I don't feel right I've seen the sunrise In a long time I get so tired I keep on flying I want to be all right I'm chasing daylight I just want to be all right
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm chasing daylight I'm chasing daylight I'm chasing my life Take me out don't want to do this Can't live my life Lost in darkness Take me out Don't want to do this
Starting point is 00:50:50 Can't live my life Feel in focus Take me out Don't want to do this Can't live my life There's no time in There's no time here I'm chasing delight
Starting point is 00:51:16 Because I don't feel right Haven't seen the sunrise In a long time when I get tired I keep on fighting I want to be all right I'm chasing daylight I'm chasing daylight Because I don't feel right
Starting point is 00:51:39 I've seen the sunrise In a long time when I get tired I keep on fire I just want to be all right, I'm chasing daylight. I'm gonna be all right, I'm chasing daylight. Daylight. Daylight. I'm chasing daylight.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Daylight. I'm chasing daylight. I'm chasing daylight. So what is it? Carnation milk. The best in the land comes in a tin with a red and white band. No tits to pole, no hay to pitch.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Just punch two holes in the son of a bitch. Mom, he's right. My turkey salad doesn't taste as fresh as yours. Mmm. And we're back, everybody. Tell me who that wasn't worth them. That is Lauren Miniar, M-I-N-E-A-R, or Meneer. Maybe Meneer. Because if you put a K, it's Keneer. Lauren Meneer, and a song called Chasing Daylight that is from her upcoming album, which has the same name.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Not to confuse people, because you just told me about an artist in their album, but who was that band you put me on to last week, the name? Oh, yeah, Little Daylight. It's good. Aren't they great? Yeah, similar kind of thing, right? Very similar, like, indie pop singer, but very much like, like my description to you was a little bit of phases, a little bit of churches, and a little bit of 80s altered images. Yeah, very, very apt description. It's real good, you guys, go seek it out.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah, little daylight. the name of the band. Yeah, and they're everywhere. I checked all the services. Yeah, I might have to use one of those in one of my upcoming rounds of Music League. I think that sounds great. Get in there, get on it. Okay, we're going to call Thomas P. McMerritt coming in.
Starting point is 00:53:56 We want Tom. We definitely want Tom. Tom is here. We talk tech with Tom. We do it on Wednesdays, and we find out what's going on in the world of technology news, because later we got the Daily Tech News show to worry about. And it's always a good time. Yeah, it'll be great.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Not really worry about so much as Dominate, you know. It's more like my worry. You guys get to enjoy it. That's right. We get to enjoy it. Tom stresses the entire Tom. Tom, welcome back to the show. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:23 I'm well. Thank you for asking. How are you both? We're doing all right. Thanks. We're doing okay. What is happening in the world? I feel like I'm, this is one of those weeks where I feel like there's so much going on in my life
Starting point is 00:54:33 that I have been, I've lost a few tracks. I don't know what's happening in tech, except for the big, the big Activision switchover, a few other things like that. Other than that, I'm kind of out of the loop. So you've got to help me and everyone else today. Apple Vision Pro has kind of dominated the news this week. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Friday, that thing comes out. Last week was the order, or two weeks ago was the orders. And then this week, the NDA went up. So yesterday all the reviews came out, and the shipping date is Friday. So people will be picking them up and getting them into their hands. We've talked about that Monday and Tuesday. I don't know that there's much else to talk about today on DTNS.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And we are planning to have an all-star crew on Friday's DTNS. Sarah Lane, Eileen Rivera from Apple Vision Show, the new Apple Show, along with Nika Monford and Terrence Gaines from SnobOS are all going to be on the show on Friday to talk about it. Wow. Wow. So overall, the takeaways seem fairly positive from what I'm reading. Yeah. Positive but confused.
Starting point is 00:55:34 That's how I would summarize the reviews of like, hey, it seems to work well, but it's not a finished product. Like, it's not, it's the best of these kinds of things, but we still don't know what these kinds of things are for. And it's, you know, it's something that it's got two hours of battery life, so you're either going to want to plug it in or swap the batteries, but the batteries aren't hot swappable. It might be a little heavy on your face to wear for a long time, although it's the, the lightest of any of them out there. It's definitely sort of, it's the best in its class. We just don't know how good the class is. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah, that's a weird thing. It's a device without a, without a, I mean, not that it doesn't have competition. Clearly, the Quest 3 and other things would like to tell you. They're in real and a bunch of others out there in the same space. And there's, yeah, there's no disagreement that Apple has made a quality piece of hardware. there is definitely a question of whether you should spend $3,500 on it, not because the hardware doesn't live up to the price. It almost does.
Starting point is 00:56:39 But do you need it? Do you need to spend $3,500 on it for anything? Especially because Apple was really pushing the entertainment aspect of it most recently. And it's like, well, that's a pretty, pretty pricey thing just to be able to watch a big movie on your face when you're, what, on a plane or something like that. Oh, God, yeah. There's also the work aspect of it that they pushed it down. WDC that they don't seem to be pushing as much, although Zoom came out and talked about how its app is going to be ready. But there's been a lot of stories about how Apple has not
Starting point is 00:57:09 fostered good relationships with developers, especially big developers, like Google and Netflix. So you're not going to have apps for Netflix or YouTube at launch. You'll be able to get them through the browser on the thing. And it is basically a full computer on your head. So there's that. But yeah, it's, it will be interesting to see once it gets in the hands of a large number of users what the actual users decide it's good or not good for after reading through some reviews a little bit here and there what I came away with was basically a three-pronged sensibility one that the tech is amazing people think the tech is truly really great 100% across the board everybody's impressed by the tech yeah nobody's
Starting point is 00:57:52 nobody's nobody's holding back on that um but it lacks in a couple of ways one is it's it's heavier than they'd like. So even offloading the battery is still not enough to make it a little uncomfortable after long sessions based on most of the reviews I read. That's kind of a problem across the board for ARBR. Not the heaviest, right? But still
Starting point is 00:58:13 on its own, maybe a little heavier than you want to wear for a long time. Sure. Sometimes that's just a center of gravity problem. I don't mean the persons, but the headset itself the way it's constructed. So that can probably change with further iterations, stuff gets smaller, whatever. and then the other thing is it's the thing that does best is play video but it's also the simplest
Starting point is 00:58:35 thing it can do right yeah so that doesn't seem like you and you alluded to that but the idea that i'm going to spend nearly 4k for a thing that is just really good at showing me a movie right and before people go well well because that's really dumb i can watch a movie on my monitor it will be able to do 3d movies in a way that televisions have never been able to satisfactorily do them Disney is on board to do that. Apple is converting a bunch of things to that. So it will be able to let you watch a video in a way you couldn't otherwise. I'll give it that, but whether that's enough.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah. There's a, yeah, a DJ Pro, which is one of the things I used to do, Coverville allows me to do seguing from one song into another and things like that. Apparently there is a Vision Pro version of that, a version made specifically for that. And all I can assume is that it's two giant turntables and you, you know, like basically just reach out your hands and mix and stuff like that. It sounds like the keyboard
Starting point is 00:59:32 the virtual floating keyboard is not awesome yet but it has glimpses of oh this could be great once refined or whatever and so beyond that if you're trying to get the general public on board
Starting point is 00:59:45 it feel like we need two things one or a refinement of the things we just talked about and a price that is not in the freaking sky. Right, something attainable price wise yeah. And price, I think Apple has shown before that it can have a ridiculous price for a thing. And then if it catches on and people like it, that will become less of an issue.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Both the price will come down and people will start to see the value in it. So if you look at this thing like a MacBook Pro, right? Everybody's thinking about it compared to an iPhone and the price is crazy compared to that. But if you look at it compared to a MacBook Pro, this is a top-of-the-line spec-out MacBook Pro. uh the question is whether people will look at it once they use it as it like oh yeah this is kind of like having a macbook pro on my face because it's got it you know the m series chip it's got an r chip that's specific for the reality OS um it it it is justifiable to expect that based on the power of the device and the capabilities of the device but that leaves out the use case of like yeah but i'd still rather just do it on a macbook pro if that ends up in the case then this is not going to have that same thing that the iPhone and the iPad and everything else has, which is like, yeah, it's a bit expensive, but it does this stuff that is amazing. And so I want it. Yeah. My expectation is this. We're going to go a few years, and it will refine and get smaller.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And the use cases will get more obvious. It'll be like when they, you know, they release something because it's tiny, like the MacBook airs when that first happened. The Visionaire is what it's going to be. Yeah. And they do that because, whoa, look how thin it is. It fits in this folder on stage with Steve Jobs. That's amazing. We're all going to get this. Well, I don't even make the air anymore. They just make MacBooks now. And they're all as thin as the air was. And it's just refined itself into a category of your normal ass thing you buy. I think that's what the watch. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Tell me more. Well, because it's a thing where it came out and they were like, it's really great, but at what? And it was also really expensive. And people are like, I don't
Starting point is 01:01:54 know, I'd pay that for a watch, especially a watch I'm not going to be wearing the rest of my life. You know, that thing's going to, you know, time out, battery's going to die and all of that after a few years. And then we learned that it was really good at fitness and really good at health monitoring. And that became the use case. And now that's the Apple Watch is the leading wearable because of that. So maybe it's that. Maybe it's the Apple One. I like the comparison, actually, now that you've said it, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Well, let's see what happens as time goes on. For now, you ain't getting my $4,000 until I'm going. Like, it's smaller and cheaper, all right? Right, exactly. I do like the idea of, like, computing on it. See, that's interesting to me. Give me a little Bluetooth keyboard until they work out the floating one. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:35 You can do that and see the keyboard. It's well designed, right? Because you can see the world around you, so you can see your keyboard, but also see the floating monitors. So, yeah, maybe there's something to it. Something to that, yeah. Multiple floating monitors. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Imagine a world where, you know, okay, so let's say you buy, a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro. And you spec it out to be about the same price as this thing. That includes the one screen built into it. If you want to have additional 4K, whatever, you've got to buy multiple screens, you're going to spend a bunch of cash there. This thing
Starting point is 01:03:08 could, in theory, have, I don't know, maybe unlimited, probably not, but some many numbers of virtual screens surrounding you. And you'll never pay a dime for those screens. I mean, there is a way to think about this. Yeah. In the computing way, like you brought up, that I had not thought of until today's segment.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So thanks for that, Tom Merritt. You did it. You're welcome. And in five years, when we're sitting here talking to each other with lightweight Applevision lights on our faith, we can laugh. We can laugh, but it will seem like a weird laugh because our eyes will be haunting and strange inside of that thing. Right. They'll just be staring at you. We'll be talking about how they have finally got the eyes right and they're not even creepy anymore.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yeah. Maybe they'll get it right. Get the eye. I used to the eyes. We don't mind them anyway. it's a fashion statement to have the weird exactly look I just switched to Angelina Jolie eyes click oh look at those oh I want to do that
Starting point is 01:04:01 can I be Steve I want to be Steve Boussemi eyes can I do that I can do that yeah all right Bouchem eyes Bouchemeyes Buccemi sorry Brian sorry you got to keep that straight that is all the kind you can get this kind of stuff every day on daily tech news show like deep coverage and all the hot news and the breakings and the what-nots today I'm going to be on part of today's show will be talking
Starting point is 01:04:25 about this switchover of power over at Activision Blizzard. They pulled from a strange place compared to kind of where we thought things were going to head. There were also some more layoffs. Things are kind of weird over there. I'm going to help break some of that down along with the rest of the lineup.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Unlakely raid leader. Yeah, that's right. Everybody, more welps. Get on the side. I don't know. I don't know how to raid lead. Tom Merritt, anything else happening that you'd like to tell the folks about? Yeah, Applevision show.com is the new show hosted by Sarah Lane and Eileen Rivera, all about people's perspective on Apple's vision for how your computer life should work. So taking a look at what Apple says should work and then talking about how it works for them.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So obviously kicking off with the Apple Vision Pro, right, and that conversation around that. But also talking about, you know, creative tools and Apple Music and Apple Music. TV and all that kind of stuff. So if you have not already, and I know a lot of you have, so thank you for that. Pop on over and get it at Applevision show.com. That's awesome. Tom married, everybody. You know him, you love him.
Starting point is 01:05:35 We'll see you later this afternoon. Bye now. Okay. That's weird. I lost my name toolbar. There it is. All right. Well done.
Starting point is 01:05:44 That was great, as always. Let's get the recommend those people. Oh, Brian. You okay? All right? You all right? Yeah. Oh, geez.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yes. That was trouble. Right there. It was trouble. Just fine. Okay, all right. I get those. Just Nicole, by the way, today.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Oh, Randy's out. Yeah. Was that last minute kind of thing? Last minute kind of thing, yeah. Meeting probably. He says he just didn't want to bring a dark cloud to the show today. Oh, we love him. We're sending all our love out to him.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Yeah. They're going through some stuff there at that company. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the deal here. We got this right here. Well, what do you recommend? Uh, the lovely.
Starting point is 01:06:23 music can only mean one thing. Nicole Spag is with us. Hi, Nicole. That's me. That's you. Hi. You only get the, you only get the lovely music. That's how we handle you. Um, it's nice. I remember when we used to play the song, oh, Nicole. Yeah, when it was just you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those were the days. Uh, I still have that somewhere. I don't think they have a Nicole and Randy's song. I have a Nicole song called Randy. I don't know. I got, so let me see if I can find it. Hold on. I got a bunch of clips of you. So let's what we have. Bidi, Bidi, Bid, B, B. Okay, that's you doing that. How about this one? I'm Batman. I got you saying, you're Batman. I just got 25% more gas released. Oh, my Lord. I don't know where your theme is, though. I can't find it.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, Chido, cheat, don't you, don't. Like that one, though. I don't know what I got. Thank you. I love it. Oh, here you are. Yeah, there's Nicole. Anyway, we're glad to have you here, and we're going to, we're going to, we're going to do recommendals we got stuff we watched on streaming services we think you guys might enjoy them we're going to start with brian because we always do brian what do you got here sure this is a movie today and it's uh uh when you hear this clip it's based on a real clip uh out there that happened and um you should pretty much know exactly as opposed to a fake well as opposed to something fictional yes like it's a it's a movie so this is the scene you're going to hear is a
Starting point is 01:07:51 recreation of something that you can go on YouTube and hear the original version of. Oh, really? Okay. Yes. I'm interested in this because I forgot what you said you watched. Good. Excellent. Good. This would be new to me. Here we go. Yo, what up, everybody? Roaring Kitty here. I've done a few of these now, mostly on my investing methodology. But today, I know what I'm going to try something a little different. Here's what I want to talk about. I'm going to pick a stock. I'm going to talk about why I think it's interesting. And that stock is GameStop. Uh, I know it's a polarizing stock and some of you're probably going to do them out of the stream right now when you hear I'm bullish on GameStop, but I am, you can see, it is now the biggest position by far in the Roaring Kitty portfolio.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So, yeah, I think everyone else is crazy and I think I'm right, but I've been wrong plenty of times in the past, so, uh, Wall Street just doesn't see it. Why? Mr. Market? Why? The hedge funds are over. look in the value in the company just like they overlook the people who shopped there. They assume most people download games online now. But look, 25% of gamers still buy new discs from GameStop and 40% buy used games from the store. And the market's kind of forced my hand here. What more can I say? I just like the stock.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I didn't know the Riddler was so into that. So that was the real clip. No, that was the, that was Paul Dano. Oh, okay. I was going to say, because it sounded like Paul Dano. Yes, you know, those Paul Dano. doing the same audio, the same basically, as you can watch,
Starting point is 01:09:25 you can go back and watch the YouTube video of Keith Gill doing that same intro. Yeah, this is a movie called Dumb Money and came out last year in theaters, but now available on Netflix, and a huge cast on this thing. Paul Dano, who you heard right
Starting point is 01:09:41 there, his brother, played by Pete Davidson, Vincent Dinoffrio, America Ferreira, Nick Offerman, Sebastian Stan, Shaline Woodley, Seth Rogan, Seth Rogan playing the poor schmuck who really gets the brunt of this thing.
Starting point is 01:09:56 But basically it's all about kind of playing Seth Rogan. Hey, look, I'm just trying to get a tennis court torn down. Anyway, it's all about the game stop thing that happened in 2021 during the pandemic, this guy
Starting point is 01:10:15 who comes across in this movie as way more of a sympathetic person than he did, or then I assumed at the time, I really kind of at the time lumped this in with like crypto bros and NFT and stuff like that, but, but this representation of them, and I don't know how accurate it is, really makes him come across as, oh man, this guy really did believe in what he was doing. He wasn't trying to F the system. And it turned out that it did kind of, you know, make the fat cats, the big bad, rich people squirm in their seats a little bit and kind of help out a lot of little people. Unfortunately, some other little people really did lose a lot of money
Starting point is 01:10:57 in this thing because of, you know, jumping in late or or thinking it was quick and easy money and it turned out not to be just the way it works. Pre-ranger says it remind him a lot of the big short and I thought the same way. Very much like the big short. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, you take the big short and you take out the little interstitial fourth wall stuff Facing fourth wall stuff Margot Robbie taking a bath and explaining banking to you
Starting point is 01:11:24 for example but I think that's what she was talking about I'm not 100% sure I was very distracted during that scene I really don't know what's happening Can I just say when you said Seth Rogan I thought Joe Rogan Oh he did
Starting point is 01:11:36 No he's too busy You guys are gonna come And you're gonna put a lot of money into this thing and by the way it's all the pandemic was the whole fake
Starting point is 01:11:47 thing plannedemic it's kind of terrible Joe Rogan but I like horrible Joe Rogan like that's the first time
Starting point is 01:11:56 I think I've ever tried to do Joe Rogan and I'm gonna make an emu anus try that
Starting point is 01:12:01 all right anyway so this is on Netflix right now it is very well done very well produced and does give
Starting point is 01:12:07 you a much more in depth explanation of how this all happened, who, you know, who lost money, who made money, how they did it, and why the House committee was brought in to say, hey, I think actually there might be a problem here if people can do this, and there might be some corruption going on in the system that allows the bigwigs to keep making more money and the people not, without the money, making less
Starting point is 01:12:40 and getting kind of the shaft on this. It wasn't there you see that app Robin Hood that kind of took off in this time too? So this has, I assume this talks about them, right? This absolutely talks about them. And that is Sebastian Stan plays one of the guys behind Robin Hood. And boy, without giving too much away, that guy kind of got a little bit of the shaft. So, yeah, it's, yeah. It's very, very interesting.
Starting point is 01:13:11 This is really good. It's on Netflix right now. And it's told in a way that if you don't follow a lot of the tech industry, the financial industry, don't worry about it. You don't have to know. It's explained in a way that's very attainable and very approachable. And again, Paul Dano, for whatever reason, the dude cannot do wrong for me. He is so good.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I love him. Every time I see him, I get excited about whatever it is I'm watching. Something about him. Lancy Brown is in this thing, by the way, as Keith's dad. Steve Gill. Do we think GameStop is going to survive? Because I have a 12-year-old kid waiting until he is 14 to apply. He has a goal of working a game.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It will last that long. It'll last that long. The last four more years, I don't know what it'll be. I mean, they tried that whole thing with like having a Nintendo store in there. and still you could go in there and buy little plastic Pokemon and stuff like that. If I had to guess there's probably another 10 years in there and they will either pivot to be something completely different
Starting point is 01:14:20 or they will go away. I just can't see. There's kind of Barnes & Noble. They're turning into toy stores. Toys R Us is gone. So these other little kind of nichey stores are kind of taking it over. And record stores, album stores. Like anytime I go into the Barnes & Noble by us,
Starting point is 01:14:37 there's usually half a dozen people in the vinyl section buying albums and it really surprises me that they're that they've that they've made it into that uh that thing yeah there's enough people out there who who worry about okay well if i buy this game and i'm done playing with playing it if i do it digitally there's nothing i can do with that game but if i buy it physically yeah a little bit more then i can take it to a game stop and get some of my money back or get money towards another game yeah exactly exactly so it ain't much but at least, you know, there's the people out there who still want physical as opposed to digital media. And we love, we really enjoy going to GameStop, just a look.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Like, it's right next to Coldstone, so we go to GameStop, and then we go to Coldstone. Do you ever, do you ever accidentally walk into a Smashburger because they've got the same logo and font and color scheme? I hate that about that place. Smashburger has not just the exact same font, and it's impact, I think, right? It's an impact. There it was. They have changed it. Burger has a new logo now.
Starting point is 01:15:41 They do, yes. Because it looks like... You can almost... It was impact red and white. It's like, what's his name on the Simpsons working out of an orange Julius? He's a lawyer by night and an orange Julius seldom by day. It's like you half expect to find a game section in your burger place, but it's so weird to me that they do that. So true.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Anyway, this is on, wow, what are you doing with your... I apologize. I don't know what happened there. Oh, I know. I got a... I'm not even going to explain why that happened. I don't think Nicole. Nicole doesn't see that because she's not in the Zoom,
Starting point is 01:16:18 but... You missed it. Don't worry. Sketch just went a little crazy. I did like that gerbil or that hamster. That do, dun, dun, da. Oh, yeah, yes. Reaction gerbil or whatever it's called. Hamster.
Starting point is 01:16:30 They think it is a hamster. You're right. That's right. It is a hamster. They have no time. Yeah, there's the new Smashburger logo, by the way, right there, which is a, the logo is getting smashed by one of their little smashers.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm very interested in this. I'm glad one of us saw it so I could get a little taste. Yeah, it's fun. And yeah, it feels, it's like we're getting these interesting tech stories turned into movies almost right away, like social network and
Starting point is 01:16:56 the big short and things like that. And I kind of like it because it gives you, you know, you're not having to go back and say, all right, tell me about this thing that happened 50 years ago and what it is and right it is a little cringy to watch though it is because it's so close yeah that's it that's the hard part is the recentness yes yes i almost prefer this sort of thing to be a couple decades removed and yeah but this one this one really feels like fresh like yeah they wasted no time
Starting point is 01:17:29 and getting this was 2021 it was uh you know it was basically three years ago that this all happened January of 2021 and the and the movie came out last year so this is all You know, it's all still, uh, still fresh. And sadly, for some people, it's, uh, uh, still painful, uh, open wounds. We have, uh, we have, uh, we have kind of a local connection, too. There was, um, uh, the, the church here, the Mormon church invested millions in this thing because of this stuff that was going on around it. Oh, no, really? It became very controversial. This whole, like, the church and they're involved with the game stop. It's very scandalous. Still is, I think. So, uh, Yeah, I really like this sort of story, but I'm like Nicole.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I'm just like, man, just spread it out a little bit. Give me a, give me a, yeah. I loved it. The cringe was overshadowed for me by actually getting to know what happened more than, because I'd rather watch this and have it traumatized with actors that I like, then go and read a Wikipedia article to understand what happened. No, that's a really good point. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, on that note, where's that again, Netflix? You said, right? Oh, Netflix. We're very much Netflix today. Are we all three, no, Netflix and HBO Max today? Yeah, I'm on Max. Yeah, Max. No, no, she's on Max. I'm on Netflix. Yeah, you're on Max. We're on Netflix. We're all somewhere. Nicole, let's get to yours. You sent me a clip for or a trailer for a thing. You made it. I made it. I made this. Tell us about it. What do we got here? So this is a little heavy of a topic. We're going to go from, you know, stealing money to stealing kids. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And it's a documentary took place in 1976 the year I was born. And it's really good.
Starting point is 01:19:24 It was about an hour and a half. I kind of watched it on my phone away from my kids. But of course, my son hears kidnapping. I mean, who got kidnapped? Yeah. Because they're a kid. They understand the word kid. I don't want to be napped.
Starting point is 01:19:39 So there you go. Go ahead and do the question. All right. Here you go. Joy. We'll talk about it. Chachilla was a wonderful place to grow up. We were little innocent children.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Never did I think that something like this could happen. How does that school bus show up missing? I did not want to go down there. It was like somebody just took them up off the planet. Was it a thrill crime? Your guess is as good as mine. It was a mystery. You had no answers. They recovered a journal encrypted and unusual writing.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Never seen anything like that. Kidnappers hit this town right in its heart by taking those children. All the way through, they thought that they had thought of everything. of everything. I would have been very live. And I thought to myself, we're going to die. We're going to die getting the hell out of here. Damn, dude.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Yeah. That's intense. This is Chowchilla. It's a town in California at the time in 1976. It was a very small town. A group of kids, so it was during summer school. So I think it was June or July that it happened. and the bus was basically hijacked after the bus driver was taking the kids home after school
Starting point is 01:21:08 and some of the kids actually got dropped off before it was hijacked and so the kids were taken and I think it was what 27 28 kids something like that and the bus driver and no one could figure out like where they went like I mean they literally just disappeared. And so this documentary kind of takes you through what happened and they they kind of pepper in the kids who are now, you know, much, much older. So you had some kids that were like, the oldest kid, I think, was, you heard him at the very end.
Starting point is 01:21:50 That was, I think his name is Mike. And he was either 13 or 14. And he's the reason why they didn't die. And he, and so as you kind of go through this journey, you're getting interviews with the kids now that they're adults. You're getting interviews with the then sheriff because this was just, this just didn't happen. This like struck fear in parents everywhere. And because they didn't understand. I mean, who steals kids and buries them alive?
Starting point is 01:22:27 God. So, and that's what happened. And so you kind of unravel this mystery to the point where you find out who did it. What happened when they're, it's just, it was really well done. And what this shows is the traumatic experience that happened collectively to these, you know, 28, 27 kids. Nothing had really been done. They were just like, like, nothing happened. with these kids once they were rescued and so you had working like a little the woman that
Starting point is 01:23:05 tried to help them this the psychiatrist she called them like the little scientist's almost an experiment of sorts but it's because of their trauma and how they processed it after the field learned a lot about trauma and kids and they even say in the documentary it's because of chowchilla that they had when columbine happened they had people there right away to help these children process what happened to them because of what happened in chowchilla and what they've learned subsequently um and and there's a whole court trial around physical and emotional harm and how all that works out so it's It's a, it's a, it's deep topic, but, and it was, I didn't know anything about that event until watching this documentary.
Starting point is 01:24:05 So it was pretty fascinating. First, I'd heard of it too, which is just fascinating, reading up on it. Yeah, I feel like there was a lot of stuff when we were growing up. I mean, you and I would have been like five or six or something, six or seven, whatever we were. Right. I was zero. Yeah, you were zero. Actually, I was a few months old.
Starting point is 01:24:21 I was a few, I was born in April, so I was, I was probably, I was a couple months old. Yeah, so you were just a little. diaper infant and we were too young to hear anything but even then i usually i always have memories of like the big stuff like i guess it was mostly 80s though like the the the Tylenol killings and the you know just stuff like that so maybe we're just too good like in the in today's day and age with the internet like something like this boom happens and but this kind of thing it kind of spreads through i mean at the time you just had tv and that's how some of the parents found out that the kids had been found was through the TV.
Starting point is 01:24:58 So it's an interesting look at that snippet of time and how information. Well, let me ask you this, because it's also easy to live in this day and age and get shaped and formed by our, you know, whatever our biases are and whatever our media cycle is now. Someone in the chat said, oh, pedophiles and human traffickers, without spoiling anything, were they human trafficking? Was that the point of the kidnapping? Not at all. Okay. Nope. Not that at all.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And it is, it's, once you find out why the reason you're like, what, W-2F, like, what? I got to watch this. Especially when you find out who, who leads the whole thing. And yeah, crazy. I'm in. I'm all on, both of these recommendations I am going to watch like soon. These are good ones. No, no, no five-year wait on the, uh, on the, no running.
Starting point is 01:25:53 bit. No, no Brian needs to show up and tape you to the couch and make you watch it. Nope, none of that. All right, excellent. Don't ruin the Wikipedia. Who did that? Oh, DJ Stengel did? Oh, Dr. Calhoun. Yeah, don't read it. Go watch it. It's really good. It's only because I think they really tried hard to give the kids a voice. Even though they're grown adults right now. They, they should. show that they, you know, kids are dismissed.
Starting point is 01:26:27 And that's what happened for these poor kids. Yeah. It sounds harrowing. So I'm in. It was. It was. Bring me some harrowing content. I love it.
Starting point is 01:26:36 All right. I'm going to, I'm going to play my clip now. This is for a thing I saw on Netflix and I'm really glad that I saw it. I will preface this by saying there is no way this is for everyone. I just know it in my heart. This is not for everyone. But it is for people who like,
Starting point is 01:26:53 animation, weirdness, and the show Severance on Apple TV Plus. This has been on my list. This has been on my list to watch. It's been recommended to me every time I log in. I absolutely have zero regrets about watching it. I'll play the clip and then I'll explain more. Here you go. I think I know why.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Huh? Sorry, you were talking about why we're here. I think I know why. Hi, I don't think we've ever been formally introduced. I'm Luis. Donna. Louise. Donna.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Hi, I'm Carol. Nice to meet you. Wow, look at this. Would you like a piece? Yes, please. A little bigger? Oh, bless your heart. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:27:57 So you were... Oh, right. Why he's here. Actually, why we're all here. It's because we're dead. All right. It's a very odd scene. So that's why I used it.
Starting point is 01:28:14 But it also doesn't give anything away. So this is a television short series thing on Netflix that is not meant to have sequels or anything. This is a limited run. created by Dan Gooderman. If you think that name is even slightly familiar, then you are familiar with things like Rick and Morty and Community and the Colbert rapport and a bunch of other stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:36 He's known mostly for writing and working most recently in animation when it came to Rick and Morty, obviously. This is his project. And it's a very daring one in that I don't know how it got approved. Like, it's just so weird. And because it's animated, and also animated in a style that is a little bit unusual for the kind of content that it is.
Starting point is 01:29:01 And it's not a comedy. There are moments of, oh, I'll grin at this and that joke's kind of funny, but it's not meant to be funny. It's just meant to be thoughtful and odd and make you kind of question our existence. So here's the basis of it. It's called Carol and the End of the World. And it stars Martha Kelly as this character named Carol. and she is just sort of your approaching middle age normal lady
Starting point is 01:29:28 the best way I can describe her somebody who might have at an office who just is always on time always gets her stuff done is very congenial and kind but when she goes home she's alone she doesn't really have anybody you know there's a lot of that going on in her life and her parents are weird
Starting point is 01:29:43 and her sister's very adventurous she's not she's just sort of a home body and all of this the problem is she lives at a time where a giant object is hurling toward Earth and is guaranteed to destroy it. It's going to be an extinction level event that will take out all life on the planet. And they only ever allude to it. I want to make sure I tell people this. This isn't a spoiler, but you're never really going to get like aftermath. This is all like leading up to the end of the world. So if you're looking for a big
Starting point is 01:30:11 giant meteor crash, you're not going to get it. But you're going to get. Thinking a partner for the end of the world. Yeah. It's a little bit about how if that was really happening and everyone knew there was a timeline like a third you know six months two months one month you know you just knew when it was coming and the end was inevitable what would you hate those kinds of movies though yeah well you you might like this because this one explores the Carol's choices take her take her in a much better place how do I put this I don't want to give anything away but the concept is everybody else is a little wacky about it right they're all leave They're wanting to do crazy things before they go, or they've just given up and stuff's in disarray.
Starting point is 01:30:55 The entire mall's abandoned because none of the stores are still there. You know, everybody's just kind of crapped out. It's kind of apocalyptic. But Carol really wants to keep some semblance of normalcy. So she still calls her dentist for her six-month cleaning. She still wants to go to the office and be a good worker. She wants to make friends there, and that's the scene I played where her and these two other characters get to know. each other, Donna and Luis,
Starting point is 01:31:22 and they're fantastic secondary characters. There's other actors in here you know. Let's see. Lori Medcalf plays this HR lady. Laser. Who? Who did you say? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Mark was asking me if I was doing something and out. I said laser. Oh. It was like a real Tourette's moment. Did you put, did you quote marks, by the way, would you, when you did it? Sorry. Anyway, it's got
Starting point is 01:31:50 it myself. Lori Matt Caff, the kid from the Goldman's, Sean Gambrione. He plays the main Goldman kid. He's in it. Matt Walsh from Vip, Vip. Or the Goldbergs, is it? I forget how you say that. A whole bunch of other actors you know. But anyway, this main lady, though, Martha Kelly, you know her because she has, she was in Spider-Man, Homecoming. She was the tour guide. Do you remember her, Brian? Just real deadpan. Okay, you guys. We need to keep moving. Me, me, me, me. She also, she played a teacher-turned drug dealer in Euphoria. She's fantastic in Euphoria. I always think she's in either Better Call Saul or Breaking Bad.
Starting point is 01:32:30 She's not, but I always think she is because she'd be perfect for a role in there. Really? Okay. She has this very unassuming sort of. Oh, do you ever see baskets? Do you ever watch baskets? No, I never did watch baskets. Oh, baskets is so good.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Baskets is great. All right. She's the police officer lady in baskets. You knew who I'm talking about. A police officer. or she's like a guard or what is she she's like a weird i don't know i don't forget where her role is she plays martha is martha yeah martha i love martha she has the most boring voice and i have a meditation that sounds just like her and it puts me to sleep every damn time yeah she's
Starting point is 01:33:06 she has this thing that has made her an instant star like she oh my god her way of talking and it's perfect for this character carroll to be this kind of non-assuming quiet that's her boring self or whatever. Anyway, this thing reminded me of severance in a bunch of ways without the big grand conspiracy. So it's not exactly like that. But there's vibes of it. And when you see it, you'll know what I mean. It's weird. It's 10 episodes. If any of this sounded interesting, then you're like me. I really liked it a lot and would recommend it to anyone who wants to explore what does humanity do when bad shit's coming that you can't avoid? And some of them go nuts and lose their minds and some people find happiness and they find little slivers of good and ways of
Starting point is 01:33:56 like I'll tell you one thing that it's not a it's not a spoiler really but they everything's been kind of abandoned so these people that still work at this company to remain normal they find an old burned out um apple bees and they make it work again in other words they start serving drinks there and they have parties and they have this weekly thing where all the employees go and they hang out. It feels like a scene from that Louie seeking her friend for the end of the world.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. They're definitely playing with some of those ideas. And I just found it weird and heartwarming at the same time. It is very weird.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Like there's a whole side story about her parents who are never wearing clothes. The dad is permanently in a wheelchair. They're in a three-way polyamorous relationship with the guy who used to be his nurse. and it's a whole it's a whole thing that's like a separate thing
Starting point is 01:34:52 I have to watch it only for the fact that Martha Carey is the voice I love her boring voice so much yeah she's wonderful I love it I love it like if I just want to listen to her voice yeah she's great and this clip didn't have a lot of her let's see if I can isolate it we're here hold on I think I hi I Luis Luis I'm Carol
Starting point is 01:35:14 Nice to meet you That's her right there Anyway, highly recommend it, it's good, yes. The movie with Kirsten Dunst, Melancholia, yeah. Oh, my God. I did not, I watched that movie and fast forward because it just made me so uncomfortable. Anxiety-inducing, yeah, kind of was. Yeah, existential dread, but there was one scene at the very end that was permanently, like, far,
Starting point is 01:35:47 into my brain and I think about that scene so much it's like how will you react when you know the end of the world that's happening and there's like three there's three people there and I will definitely say I would probably be the one freaking yeah it's a that's a weird movie
Starting point is 01:36:05 and this is not this is not this isn't like that level of weird and also there's a real I know that movie's dark oh it's so dark This has moments of darkness, but it's mostly kind of a, the whole point is to say, it may not be so, oh, by the way, not for kids. There are a cartoon, there's a couple of cartoon sex scenes.
Starting point is 01:36:26 There's cartoon boobies. There's cartoon swearing, you know, it's definitely an adult deal. What it reminded me of, Brian, is actually, you know, we always talk about those old animation festivals we'd go to. Yeah, there's spiking mics and the, right. This is like a 10-episode thing. It would fit in that stuff. Sounds like it would, yeah, okay. The style, the animation, all of it, it's really good, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:49 What your first adult cartoon was? Like, you watch it as a kid, and you're like, oh, this is not roadrunner. Yeah, it was my uncle taking me to the movie Heavy Metal in theaters and watching what that taxi driver did to that lady that he picked up in the cab. Yeah, that one will stick with you. Yeah. I think it was, is Felix the cat? Is that an adult one?
Starting point is 01:37:15 other one it's okay so that's another one wasn't it it was fritz the cat oh fritz the cat's the dirty one i just remember it was a cat and i was like what is going on yeah for for me for me it might have been one of those festivals and they just had a short that was kind of naughty i don't remember what it was yeah fritz the cat yeah i think that was for me that's what that's what i liked about it does it accidentally watched it because this one felt this this thing feels experimental but not they're not exploiting any of that stuff You know what I mean? Like, you don't, you're not going to be watching this going, oh, I can't believe I just saw a cartoon boob for no reason.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Like, it's all got this context and it's a piece of art. Nobody's getting exploited. None of the cell animation is getting explained. No, they all consented to draw these things. So it all worked out. So anyway, highly recommend it. Go check it out. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Carol and the End of the World is the name of the 10 episode season. And these will all be up on quicktms. So go check those out. Already there. already there it's like it's like magic one other quick question for both of you did either of you watch asoka yes i saw the first four episodes i'm still haven't finished the final bit but yeah neither of us have recommended it and i can't remember if randy did or not but and i won't either yeah okay oh see i think i enjoyed it more than more than you did but i but i
Starting point is 01:38:38 agree with your sentiment yeah yeah so we finished it last night and i was We waited a long time to watch it. It's been out for quite a while. But it was surprisingly not what I... It's hard after the greatness that was Andor to then have something that had it come out before Andor would have been probably appreciated more and more because of its supporting characters. I mean...
Starting point is 01:39:11 Did you watch rebels? Yeah, uh-huh. Okay, so Rebels, the cartoon. Yeah, love Rebels. And Mark watched Rebels. And you get the continuation of that, yeah. And so Mark watched Rebels. I didn't watch Rebels, but he caught me up with Rebels, and then we watched Asoka. And I would say probably the first five episodes, they're like, uh, what's going on? Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:39:35 But it was, honestly, it wasn't until, like, the episode, I think was episode six that didn't have Asoka. They were like, oh, that was really good. so you think you know you thought did you feel like she heard her own show or like is that the takeaway mark definitely did mark was not he was not happy with uh rosario dawson as asoka yeah i think she's fine i like her i like her as oka i think she and when we first see her in mandolarian uh as ooka i thought i thought she was great then too so yeah i think she she is not the strongest part of asoka right it's no Not at all.
Starting point is 01:40:14 And I really was disappointed with Thron, but... Isn't that the voice actor, though? It is. It is. He doesn't look anything like Thron in the comics or the books descriptions or any of that. He looked nothing like that. You don't have to, you don't always have to use the voice person. It worked really well for that episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds that crossed over from lower decks, but you don't always have to use the voice.
Starting point is 01:40:38 My biggest problem with the Star Wars stuff right now is it all feels like so much fan service that I... It really distracts me. That's why I loved Andor so much because Anord wasn't any of that. Yeah, it was all fresh. It was all new ideas. And I just wish we had more of that going on. Assook wasn't bad. I enjoyed it towards the end.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Yeah. So if you're, if you haven't. I'd put it on par with Book of Boba Fett. For me, it goes Andor, Mandalorian, and then Book of Boba Fett and Asoka kind of in the middle there. Yeah. And then the, sadly, the OB-1 series. I didn't know. I didn't know it at all.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I liked how it started. I didn't like how it. I liked exactly. Yes. And I thought, I thought Hayden Christensen was good in it. It was a good recovery for him or not recovery, but a good. It added to his character for sure. But here's a cool thing about all of this.
Starting point is 01:41:31 It's not redemptive. We get to talk about something that I did not think would ever happen. Like, none of this stuff. I never even imagined they would make. Like, I think it's great that it exists. Oh, the fact, yeah, the fact that we're getting a deluge of Star Wars content, like,
Starting point is 01:41:48 go back to when you were 10 and tell yourself that. You wouldn't believe it. Right, right. Yeah, right. No argument. So in a way, in a way, it's, I mean, it's so easy for us in our modern society with all our Twitters and our whatnots to be really cynical about it, right? We can be super cynical about Star Wars, but we're getting what we asked for. But had we, right, had we
Starting point is 01:42:06 gotten this, you know, as a kid, we'd been like, what are you old farts complaining about this is the greatest thing ever yeah yeah it's crazy but anyway that's uh so a little side mechimental from you yeah mech mechmec yeah it's fine go check them out at msdh hang with it that's right hang with it baby uh Nicole have a fantastic laser I'm sorry rest of your day is what I meant to say and we'll see you later laser lasers it's all lasers that was pretty that was pretty funny her yelling let out out of nowhere. It was great. It was such a, such a Mark moment. Thank you, Mark's
Starting point is 01:42:41 bag. Mark! Once again, Mark, Mark rules the show without even trying. The fifth beetle. The fifth member of TMS is marked. Hardly ever appearing on, but yeah. Check this out. We got a special shout out to give. Oh, okay. Love it.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Belinda, not Carlisle, just a Belinda. Oh, okay. She wrote in, says, Hey, guys, my boyfriend is a ginormous fan of your podcast, and he talks about it all the time. And I actually think he called in and left a message for you guys as well. I was wondering if you could do a shout out for him during an episode for me. It's our anniversary on February 3rd.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I realize this is terribly late to request this. But if you could, I know he'd love it. Just a quick, hey, Joe Frazier would be amazing. Is it Fraser or Frazier? It could be either, right? Because Brendan Fraser or, but you can also pronounce F-A-R-S-E-R as Frazier as well. So it doesn't have to have the eye to be a Frazier. She says, thanks so much, Belinda.
Starting point is 01:43:38 So Belinda, if it is Frazier, then you have a famous named boxing name, husband, or boyfriend. If not, then he's just whatever. But we want to say, yeah, you know, hey, dude. Happy anniversary. Yeah, and thanks for listening to us and hanging out and being cool. And also, Belinda, you seem very nice. And I could not resist but to bring this up. So it was very nice to reach out.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Thank you for that. If you guys want to email us stuff, you can do that at the morning stream of email.com. If you'd rather text us, 8014711.462, all this and more is linked at frogpants.com slash TMS. We are now going to leave. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Oh, kind of continuing off as something you just mentioned when Brandy Carlisle was on Saturday Night Live, Tina, both Tina and my dad texted me and both said, my gosh, Brandy Carlisle looks amazing. And for both people, I said, I think you're thinking of Belinda Carlisle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:34 It also looks amazing, but doesn't look as young as Brandy Carlyle does. Yeah, Brandy's like literally young. And Belinda is just a great-looking older lady. Well, exactly. Not that old. I guess she's in her 60s or something, but she looks amazing. We'll give her that. That's funny, both your dad and your wife.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Both of them separately. Like first Tina's like, oh my God, that's Brandy Carlisle. And I said, yeah, that is Brandy Carlisle. Are you thinking Belinda Carlyle? She's, oh, yeah. And then my dad texts me like five minutes later. this is great. It makes me realize I'm not the only person
Starting point is 01:45:07 that bugs Brian about music stuff I notice. I'll notice something and go, Brian, do you know that, blah, and he usually comes back with, well, of course you did.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Ringo wasn't even there then. And zub, zz, right. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. He just knows this shit.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I know this shit. It's the only, it's my, it's the only thing I know, folks. Scott knows years and video games and movies and stuff like that. I know music.
Starting point is 01:45:28 You know's music. Well, look, the music makes the rock and world go around. Oh, look at that. Nice. Soto Fat Bottom Girls. You got a request to play here.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Oh, let's do it. Can't wait to hear it. Oh, wait. Did you need to say all this stuff here at the end? No, I got it all. We're good. You're ready to rock. That's right.
Starting point is 01:45:43 You did say all that. All right. This one, sad request that came in directly to me because I allow a couple people in this world to directly text me. Not everybody. Don't try it, folks. Because if you're hearing my voice and you don't know it's you, it's not you. This one came to me from Bobby Ann Folk.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Sadly, well, I'll just read the text. She says, Hey, Brian, hope all is well. I'm sure there's a forum somewhere, but we both know I won't find it, L.O.L. Would it be possible to request a song for Barry on TMS?
Starting point is 01:46:13 Barry? We lost our cat Honeycutt this morning. So could you play a cover of Lullaby? Good Night, My Angel, by Billy Joel for Barry. Well, Bobby Ann, I'm dedicating this to both you and Barry, because I know how sad it is to lose a kitty or a dog or any member of the family like that, any pet. These are things that we give all of our love to, and we know that unless it's a tortoise,
Starting point is 01:46:40 we're probably going to outlive them, and it's going to be heartbreak in a few years. Did she name the cat after, or did he name the cat after BJ Honeycutt? Do we know? Probably, yeah, I would guess. I have one of those honeycat prints. I could send him. Oh, yeah, send that to them. That's sweet.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah, I'll look for it. So this is a cover by one of my favorite vocalists, a guy named Rufus Wainwright. He is the son of Lowden, Wainwright, the third, sister to Martha. What made you say that name, Wainwright? This came out as part of the soundtrack to the Runaway Bunny from 2021. Don't know anything about that, but I do know that this is a great song. It's cover of Billy Joel's Lullaby. Good Night, My Angel.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Good night, my angel, time to close your eyes and save these questions for another day. I think I know what you've been asking me. I think you know what I've been trying to say. I promised I would never leave you Then you should always know Wherever you may go No matter where you are I never will be far away
Starting point is 01:48:22 Good night my angel Now it's time to sleep to sleep and there's still so many things I want to say remember all the songs you sang for me when we were sailing on an emerald bay and like a boat out on the ocean I'm rocking you to sleep The water's dark and deep inside this ancient heart You'll always be a part of me Good night, my angel, now it's time to dream. And dream how wonderful your life will be.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Someday your child may cry, and if you sing this lullaby. Then in your heart there will always be a part of me Someday will all be gone But lullabies go on and on They never die That's how you and I will be.

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