The Morning Stream - TMS 2598: Avoid The Topless Nun

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

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of the morning stream. That slug is a headliner, and God knows we can use the publicity. Going for an elevator ride. The morning stream, if you have job, you wear the pants. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for February 12th, 20. That's a lot of February 12th. Yeah, but it's a little math problem, right? 212, 24. Oh, yeah.

You know what? Until you said it. Didn't notice. You'll take it. Maybe not be the most fun numerology, but it's numerology, but it's numerology. Yeah, I like numerology. I don't get, you know, I don't get like, what's the word? I don't get weird about it. Like, the world's going to end because these numbers line up. It predicts the future or anything like that. No. Some people do, but I don't. Freaking enough that.

Hey, everybody. It's the morning stream. I'm Scott, and that's Brian. And we're here. We're going to have some fun. We got some stuff coming up. Here's the good news. We talked about it.

Brian and I have a little meeting before we go live. Some of it's very exciting. Some of it's very boring. But the exciting thing is, just a reminder, next Monday. So a week from today, tickets for TMS Vegas, Viva, TMS Vegas will be available. And on the website, you'll be able to link to it directly. at the frog pants store, or you can go to VivaTMSVegas.com, and it'll

have a link there. And then you'll go off and you'll procure your tickets or ticket, if it's just you, it's fine. And then we all get to hang out in April, you know? Yeah. We've got big plans. We've got cool stuff brewing, all sorts of great things. We can't even talk about. Some of it, you know? Right. I mean, it is all, like, I think the calendar,

the whole thing is pretty much all fleshed out, VivaTMSVegas.com. We've got not just the official events, but we've got all of the listener events as well, like the people who want to say, hey, let's all go to this restaurant for lunch, or let's do this visit to the Pinball Hall of Fame, which I can't wait to do. I'm wishing for it. I didn't go last time and definitely want to go this time. Of course, I need to figure out when I'm going to corral you all-stars into your Taskville stuff.

But fortunately, that stuff is all, that stuff is all going to be pretty well time managed. And we won't require anything that will involve Fremont Street Police. Oh, good. Oh, good. Yes. That's great. Yeah. That's a wonderful thing. Did you notice?

I don't know if you noticed this, but in the Las Vegas Super Bowl that was hosted last night, there was a camera. It was all fake. It was like CGI, but they had this camera that was always flying under Fremont. And I, every time they... Oh, it was a blanket of free month. There was one that I watched that there was the CGI strip. And it would go over here and show you, brought to you by Verizon. Over here, the NFL, and then it would get to the end of the strip where the Las Vegas sign should be.

And apparently that's where the Allegiance Stadium is placed right there. Yeah, they have a... In the middle of the strip. They took some liberties on locations. Like a lot, you know, movies do this. We always talk about it, right? Of course. You watch these movies.

You're like, wait a minute. That's not how Vegas is laid out. Yeah. Paris is not right next to Treasure Island. Come on, people. No. But I love that. I love those shots under there because it was like it would go under the dome or the, you know, the light dome on Fremont. Oh, oh, I see. Yeah. The cover. And the CGI version of Fremont was so clean and free of weirdos, you know? Right. Yeah. Utopia.

No people that you're like, trapped in the circles that you're like, don't make eye contact. Don't make eye contact. Don't make eye contact. Yeah, that none with her boobs out. Do not talk to her. Do not go near her? Yeah, that was kind of fun to see. But, yeah, it was an interesting presentation. I guess we can talk about that a little bit.

So Super Bowl's a big deal here in the States. And across the world in some circles, we played American football, not to be confused with football, you Europeans and your weirdness and your name problem. Anyway, the game, that is what you want. a game in the Super Bowl. You do not want a long-drawn-out, no-scoring game, although I was worried at first because the score took forever to get points on the damn board.

Defense wins championships. And both teams showed that they had what it takes to win a championship based on just defense alone. Yep. I could not believe. I made a decision last night that I'm not looking, this may sound stupid, but I'm not looking at social media today at all. Like I'm, I'm abstaining 100% this morning instead of kind of checking and looking at replies and stuff, I kept reading a book I'm reading. I never touched my phone this morning. The only thing I checked it for is to make sure I didn't have any text from you or anything from the family. Other than that, I don't care.

And so I just put it aside. And the reason I did this, this is what prompted it. You might say, well, Scott, is it the proliferation of political content online? Is it the constant barrage of people thinking that Taylor Swift is part of some sort of sci-ops operation? I guess that's redundant. But, yeah. Sure. but you're kind of close because

the big conspiracy one of the trending topics last night was that the game was thrown in it was rigged in favor of the chiefs and it was because financially nobody

involved could handle them losing given the Taylor Swift connection and the Travis Kelsey connection and that if the game was lost by the chiefs that billions of dollars are just siv out and you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to recover and so you had to rig it and you know there's this whole thing going on right and I just said you know what I looked at that I looked at

my phone I looked at it and I went I think I'm done with this yeah I think I'm finally it's funny that this is the thing that might do it right the stupid Superville who cares a dumb conspiracy theory but people were so believing it they were all blue checks of course of course oh really they were so into it that I was like I think I think I might be done I'll Look, I'll use it for interact with people. Hey, thanks for the reply. Yeah, sure. We are doing a show that day.

Check my DMs. Oh, yeah, the store will have those back in stock. Whatever. Let's talk to some. Hey, you seem cool. How's your daughter doing? I'm into that, but I don't want to hear this. You know, doing a new episode of something.

You'll post it on there. But you may not post the things that are like, hey, here's my Jeff Goldblum. You are going to have some scores in your football game, right? I'm glad you noticed that one. I did. Yes, I got a kick out. And I may, I may still post like an idiot, but I am no longer, I'm not looking at public feeds anymore.

Just not going to do it. Oh, gotcha. Okay. I see you're saying. Because I cannot deal with those people anymore. I can't do it. This kind of stupidity is just painful for me. Here's my, here's my promo.

Here's some words of wisdom. See you. Here's a joke. I'm out. And if you reply, I'll, I'll see your reply. I'm checking those. I'll do that. But I am no longer partaking in the public hose.

The public hoses off. Yeah, no, I stopped that long ago. Like, I basically, I feel like I'm in a little, I'm bubble boy, basically, and the card says moops. But I basically only look at, when I go into threads, I just go right to the little heart thing. And I just see, oh, no, I see the feeds of the people that I follow and who follow me and do reply and all that sort of thing. Same with Twitter. I'm off the, I don't even look at the fire hose. that's basically just yep here's my little my list of people I follow and who follow me and okay okay just look in yeah yeah have your blinders on there's nothing wrong with it itself it's healthy I actually had a way better morning felt better like it was just like less bombardment of stupidity and I just can't deal with stupid stuff it just makes me feel like I have to get involved so I'm not doing that anymore I'm done social media hands everybody a megaphone and I think we can all agree there's a few people out there who just shouldn't have a megaphone.

phone who should still maybe whisper not shout into the crowds. Some of their mega, some megaphones. Or just keep it all to yourself. Yeah, yeah, just keep that megaphone in your room, put it in the pillow and yell in it. Exactly, exactly.

Yeah. So anyway, that's, that was a thing. But the game was amazing. Holy shit. That was fun. That was a fun watch. Exciting. Nail biter.

To the end. Yeah. Yeah. And I was, I was all about 49ers this game. They, back in the day, I've told you this before. I think I told you Saturday. But back in the day, they would be, they were our surrogate team

mostly because of Steve Young and that connection to Utah so it just felt like hey we got a route for the 49ers and we did and we loved it and we love Joe Montana and we love Jerry Rice and all this stuff and then all these years later it's jumped around so it depends on how well your Broncos were doing we usually would get behind them

and if they weren't winning then we were just like well I like Green Bay or who or you know we sort of settle on whatever but always Broncos Broncos 49ers would get preference because they're close. And then when the Raiders moved to Vegas, we were like, oh, they're actually closest. They became the closest team, yeah.

So we got excited about them and, you know, we get all rallied around them, but they did not great this year. So whatever. Sure. The point is the 49ers are kind of last night. They were kind of our team. I have nothing against the chiefs.

They're fine, but I don't like the overdog. I like the underdog, you know? Yes. Right. And actually, it's funny because the, The 49ers really were favorite, by two points, favored in the spreads in Las Vegas. So it wasn't an overwhelming, there wasn't an overwhelming underdog or overdog, but the, you know, the 49th is, and that's who I was hoping for. As a Denver Bronco fan, as a person who lives in Denver, the frequent, but not always Denver Bronco fan.

sure um the chiefs are considered rivals uh to us so we uh just by just by proximity don't don't root for the chiefs but last night it's hard not to i mean oh my gosh they're so you see you see my homes kind of saying oh yeah none of my passes and the running game is only working with pacheco so pass screw it i'm just going to run in myself constantly and uh and i swear to God, that last touchdown, if Pacheco would have run that in, I would have had a nice little $5 turning into $55 parlay bet. I was sorry, that $5.00 now turns into a free bet. We were going to do a degenerate check today, and I forgot to ask.

So did you, you just kind of equaled out? You didn't lose. Well, if you count getting free bets for the, basically I just said, all right, yeah, let me do the no sweat bets, which basically is like, if you put $10 on, a four-way parlay, if it doesn't hit, then we just give you a $10 free bet that you can use on anything else tomorrow or, you know, use it whenever you want. But you get it tomorrow. So I have a bunch of these free bets now, but I lost my three parlays that I set up. So I had three losing parlays, and I had one on, two on the 49ers and one on the chiefs, kind of hedging, quote-unquote,

hedging my bets. And now I have three free breads that I'm going to use. And, you know, Probably do something that I do way better at, which is college basketball or hockey or something. Those seem to be the bets where I do a lot better. Well, congratulations on not losing your shirt, I guess, is what I'm saying. Yes, yes. No shirt lost, and we'll see if maybe I can turn one of these bonus bets into some cash, some free cash. Look, there's no question that Mahomes is the next great quarterback, but I have one problem. Yeah.

And it's the same problem I have with... It looks like Korshack? A little bit. But my biggest problem is, it's not just him. It's anybody in sports who, when they get approached by, they've just, the game is done. We've been in overtime. They win the game. And the reporter comes up and, you know, wants to get a first reaction out of him.

Why do they always have to blame Jesus for the win? Because I don't like, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. Because it doesn't, what it tells me is like, oh, okay, he wasn't, you cannot determine the the football fandom of a deity, okay? Exactly.

Like, all of a sudden, God said, you know what? Orgies or whoever, insert, name of Supreme being here. He says, you know, I'm kind of feeling the chiefs today. I'm kind of going to, you know, it's not like the, you say, yeah, I don't want the 49ers to win. Yeah. There's a great, there's a great cartoon that shows a guy running in for a touchdown. and he's pointing to the sky and he goes,

Jesus, this touchdown's for you. And then the second frame is Jesus on a couch watching a hockey game. I love that. You don't care? Nobody cares. Like, quit doing that. Like, I understand.

Look, I know that there's some players with deep religious stuff. Fine. Sure. That's great. Totally fine. Have whatever you want to have. But the first thing out of your mouth,

well, first of all, I want to think, you know, it was God, God, what did it? I'm like, no, you're just a bunch of athletes. And partly, you got lucky, and also these teams are... Take the credit yourself. You know, I trained really hard for this. I really worked hard. I sacrificed a bunch of, you know, a bunch of opportunities to go out and have fun and drink beers with the guys,

to go out and do some running and do some drills and practice. And it was really that that made the difference. Like, take ownership that you did it yourself and don't give the Windy God. By the way, giving the Windy God is the Base of the first hilarious five minutes of the TV show Miracle Workers where Steve Bissemi is, or Bouchami, is God and, or is Jesus. And basically is, oh, thanks. I love you.

Oh, I love you. He's just watching, he just watches TV and keeps rewining back to watch this guy, you know, really this one goes out to God, this win. Wow. I love that. I hadn't seen that. That's great. You need to watch it.

Watch the first season. It's a self-contained little, little season, and you can, and as much as I hate saying this, you can skip the Mad Max-influenced fourth season, Mad Max parody fourth season. Zing, Bingabong. I hate to say it. Maybe you'll like it more. Maybe I won't, though. Maybe you're right.

I know crap when I see it, Brian. Watch the first season. Have I ever steered you wrong? No. No, usually your, in fact, I can't think of one where a recommendation wasn't good. Yeah, you and I usually agree. It's usually Team Jibb it on film sack. That's how it goes.

Usually, yeah. The commercials I thought were boring and dumb. There are a couple of them that made me laugh. The ones that made me laugh were probably not supposed to be funny, but they still made me laugh. Honestly, I couldn't even tell you. The April Leadgate, Ron Swanson, you know, the Mountain Dew Baja blast one. Oh, that was all right, yeah.

That was all right. I mean, again, it's when all things are kind of a sea, the thing that's a C-plus kind of rises to the surface. Yeah, yeah. And there's apparently more than I need to see because we went to my buddy, Chris Brown's house, and watched the game there with him and his daughter and what he described as some epic snacks,

which were some epic snacks. I'll bet. And we started watching the commercials, but then we started talking about the ukulele and started talking about all these other things. So I think there were a few commercials I might not have gotten the whole thing for. I don't understand why DoorDash makes you forget stuff.

We miss the first part of the commercial that explains that. Yeah, that was... I will say I kind of like that Jennifer Lopez Matt Damon slash... Yeah, that one. That was pretty funny. Although Duncan's closing, like, locations left and right. Oh, really?

Is it because they spent all that money on that ad? My gosh, the frick, dude. Because were the two locations that used to be near me? Gone. Yeah. Oh, really? Just poof, gone. And then there was one on my way south.

If I was going to go to the highway up there, that's gone, replaced with an Einstein brothers or something. Like, they're suffering, I think nationwide, not just here. So that was weird. Well, it doesn't surprise me. Their donuts used to be great. Now they're, they're, they're, they're not that great. They're okay. They're still better than Winchels.

They're still better than Krispy Kreme, but it's a long jump to mom and pop-owned bakeries that have just amazing. doughnuts and then Lamar's, which I know is a chain and I will put them head and shoulders above everyone else. Sometimes a chain is a reason. There's a reason there, a chain. There's a reason.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so overall, that stuff, whatever, I didn't care much about it. Here's my favorite part, though. Yeah. So we kind of kept it nice and chill. Kim and I stayed, well, so we had the kids all weekend

for most of the weekend or part of the weekend. No pukers this time. Happy kids. Everything's great. No problem. I will admit, a little feeling in the back of my head, like, I'm going to Ralph, are we going to have, you know, no one did. It was fine. So we watched it ourselves, just Kim and I, and didn't do any kind of big party or anything.

We had, you know, we did our own food and stuff, but it was nice. Just Kim and we haven't had a lot of alone time lately, so this was like our kind of chill out and sit on the couch and eat wings and laugh and hang out with each other. So it's nice. But here's the weird bit. My viewing of it this year was via the Paramount Plus app because I don't have another live TV service. To do it on in Paramount Plus, owned by CBS, was also doing it. And for the most part, no issues, although big moments in the game were the only times I seemed to have any issues. And those issues were, I never lost connection.

I never had the service go down. But a few times the video would go into full Benny Hill mode. You see the players walk around the field. Yep, there you go really fast. And Jim Nance, his voice wouldn't change. So he'd be like, oh, we got something happening on the whatever line. People just running around. It was ridiculous.

And every time it happened, I was too slow getting my phone out to catch it because it was actually the funniest part of the night was just watching this thing foul up. So it was okay. Overall, though, I think they did a decent job with it. And I really like Jim Nance. He's a Utah connection. He used to be a local sports guy here years and years ago. when I was, I think, a teenager or something is when Jim Nance was here. So I thought the calling of the game was really good.

It was just an overall great game. I enjoyed it. I don't like all the pre-stuff where it's like those guys fawning over each other at the desk. Like, I get a little tired of all that. It's like, all right. Are we going to all just sit around and touch each other's wieners this entire show? Like, that stuff kills me. But the actual game, when cleats hit turf, great.

Usher, eh, I don't care. It's fine. He's not, he's, you know, I'm, I, I know of Usher. I mean, I know of two of his songs that I recognized he played. I didn't know the other ones. I thought the choreography was great. I figure every show on the Las Vegas strip must have been dark because there was not a Cirque de Soleil, absent performer that was not on the field of Allegiant when this was going on.

How convenient, by the way, to have it. They should do the Super Bowl. in Vegas every year. All your extras are taken care of. They're just there. I agree. Yeah. They must have some crazy. Leave it to Vegas, by the way. Leave it to Vegas to create a football stadium. It looks like a giant hockey puck and then use it for football. Yeah. I mean, I think that thing looks really cool at night, but in the daytime, that looks like a lump. I don't like

it. Yeah. Looks fine. It looks great at night. Like a lot of Vegas, at night, it's beautiful. It's like, wow, the screen out front is really cool and the lighting and the way it reflects on the black tiling and all that. But in the daytime, it looks like a melted little tar chunk it's just weird you drive by it in your uh yeah you're there's a beautiful day though gorgeous sunset like beautiful skies that all that rain that cleared out all the the guck and everything that made Vegas look like the place to be that looked really nice so sure anyway because it's a good time had fun yeah you know it's it's America's weird pastime and we're into it all right sure sure and I'm glad it's over sorry I'm glad

glad football is over. Football during my degenerate gambling experiment did not win me much money. It wasn't your best friend. Yeah, no. Way better with basketball and hockey and stuff. Well, when we get our hockey team, which apparently is eminent. Really?

NHL team. Yeah, we're getting an expansion team here soon. You'll have a new team to bet on or against because they probably suck. And by the way, someone earlier said, what about the Arizona Cardinals? I don't root for them because they're never within striking distance of needing to be rooted for. They're bad. No offense, but they never get there. They need a lot more than just you're rooting for

them. Yeah. They're like the Detroit Lions. I've been around since the league started and they how often do they get in the playoffs? Like a million to one. And they finally did. Well, then I get excited. It's like that. So I'm a fair weather fan is what I'm saying. Sure. Real quick here, we got a call from somebody about something that made me laugh. And I think Amy is Amy in the chat because Amy needs to hear this. If she's not, I'll send it to her later. but this is great. I think she is. I saw her earlier.

Oh, she, okay. Cool. Here you go. Hey, TMS. One of the things you need to add to your list, Scott, is to start dungeon crawler Carl. The reason I know you haven't started it is because you're not talking about it because you would be talking about it because it's that good.

So now that you got Paraset out of the way, but that one's at the top of the list. Have a great day. Love the show. I'm totally reading this series. And I've said it on the show before that I'm reading it right now. Yeah. You even said you were reading it. it when Amy described it or no you had known about it when Amy described it and uh well she

introduced it to me I had heard of it but she introduced me to like oh this is good by the way because I always thought the name sounded so stupid I just sort of wrote it off and she was like oh you got to read it so I started after her recommendation and uh that is an amazing that first book's incredible I'm doing I'm gonna do the whole damn thing there's a new one coming but I but then I also brought it up numerous times but yeah I guess I'm not fawning over at like Mad Max Fury Road or something. Sure. But that's not because I don't like it. People don't think that you're, the thing, it's

like apparently like CrossFit, where well, I know he doesn't do CrossFit, otherwise he'd be talking about CrossFit all the time. Exactly. Or cold bath therapy, whatever that is, where you get in. Right, yeah, right. Sure. Someone tried to talk me into that the other day. Who was that? Some friend of mine, anyway,

just texting me said, do you need to try this? Oh, you'll feel so much better. It'll change your life. I would say question your friendship with that person. Like, really? I don't know. Man, if I want to get into that, this sounds awful. I did finally download We Play Games to my iPad to listen to. I feel like that's different from an audiobook because it's more of like an audio drama. It's the thing that Amy recommended last time we had her on, which was the couple that kind of toys with the lives of their neighbors and friends.

Oh, right. Yeah, looking forward to checking that out. You're going to have to report on that. I'm curious about it. I will, yeah. It sounded great when I heard of the clip. Why choose a sleep number smart bed? Can I make my sight softer?

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plus free premium delivery with any smart bed and adjustable base. Ends Labor Day. All sleep number smart beds offer temperature solutions. for your best sleep. Check it out at a sleep number store or sleep number.com today. Oh, we also had a little birthday dinner for Tina. Took her out to Trattoria Estella,

which is a really nice Italian restaurant here in town. Had a bunch of her friends. Oh, I saw a picture. Did I see the real Chris Brown in that shot? You saw the real Chris Brown right next to me and Crazy Neighbor and Mrs. Crazy Neighbor and then our friends who own the candy store in Georgetown, Kathy and Scott and boy another when you come to Denver go to visit Georgetown in the candy

store there because it's some great stuff that's awesome I'm glad you had a good birthday yeah it's good time everybody needs a good birthday you know here and there yeah exactly yeah except me I don't care much it's like whatever no you need a good birthday even if it's not you know you don't need a party but you need a good birthday everybody should have a good day on their birthday you know what that's a fair point I'm gonna now I'm gonna change my attitude And I'm going to agree with you. Good, good. Good news, everybody.

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Okay, finally. Last thing. Yeah. So I'm going to announce. So we have our play date coming up at the end of this month, the 23rd, Friday the 23rd, two weeks, basically, from where we're at now. And normally we do, you know, jackbox, nor normally we do among us, something like that. We're going to do something totally different. Big thanks to Alcabab who does the interfaces and the games that we use for feud and for half-asses, which we'll be doing in a minute here.

uh he's come up with something with he and i have come up with something based on oh i don't know it might be based on a game show that's currently on by rob low but we don't even talk about that uh it's called the pond and uh because you're the tadpool it's the pond so uh basically it's a it's a trivia game where you take territory away from other tadpoolers so we need contestants and uh tomorrow i'll do another announcement but i'll have a sign up form but what i want you to do as you hear this is be thinking about a category that you think you're pretty good at in trivia, something that you're pretty knowledgeable about. And you're going to get some trivia questions based on that category. So tomorrow you'll have a little sign-up form

and I have to write a crap ton of trivia questions because of this, but you have to also make sure that you're going to be available to play live on the 23rd. There's No, you can't not be here live. You have to play live. Yeah. And the whole idea, the whole idea here is, and you're, oh, that's what I was going to say. We've got to be able to hear you. We've got to have you on audio.

Yeah. So there's a couple of caveats like that, but for the most part, that sounds like a lot of you who we know, we need, was it 16, you said, people? Like 16 minimum, but I could do 25. It has to be a square number. Okay. So times that by how many questions is it if you had, let's say you had 20? Three questions per player, so it's going to be 75 questions, some of which are going to be categorized.

I know nothing about, but I may do my best to write something that's challenging. That's a lot. It is a lot. And I think, well, we'll talk about times and stuff, but we might need to start at 9, just so we have enough time to do it all. So we'll see. All right. Well, there you have it. Yeah, so be thinking about your category, and then I'll have a sign-up form, and you'll sign up with you.

your screen name, your Discord name or whatever, and your category, and if multiple people want the same category, I'll have to do some sort of DM talking to both of you to figure out which one, who gets it and who has to come up with something else. Excellent. Can't wait for this. Yeah. Tell you what else I can't wait for the sultry sounds of the voice box belonging to Brian Dunaway. Hey, man.

Oh, hi Scott and Brian. Hey, hello. That sure was some fun last Thursday in the world of unreal tournament again, wasn't it? It has a good time. Oh, did you guys play yesterday? Dang it. No, not yesterday. Friday we played.

Friday after play retro, but we're going to play again tonight. What time? I forgot. 6.30 p.m. Eastern time or 4.30 Mountain time or 4.30 Mountain. I'll be there. I'm playing for sure. I'm playing for sure. Brian, you should try to get in there. I want to play. Yeah. So, yeah, what time do you say? So basically 4.30 our time.

4.30 are time. Correct. Yeah. Making a note. I'm ready. I've got my textures downloaded. I've got my, I've customized my dude. So he's a weird alien dude. I live every time I talk to somebody who's about to join and play for the first time in decades. And they all say the same thing.

I am ready. And then they get in there. And they're like, oh, my God. Yeah. This is too fast. Yeah. Oh, I have no doubt. I am just getting good.

I can't even keep up with the bots. Like, I play the bots, and it's like, you've, you know, you've killed five bots, and the bots have killed you all 20 times. It's challenging, man. It's a hell of a thing. But we're going to be doing it again. It's going to be great. I suck, but I have fun at it.

Oh, but there's so many great people in the Frog Pants, Diamond Club, Mission Deep community. They're just gotten so good at it, too. They totally pick back up. You know, those diamond group people aren't allowed. I didn't know that. I'm sorry, the diamond group. They can't even play anyway because they need their fingers and they're too busy doing the symbol to actually play the game. Because you need all your fingers for the keyboard, but they're too busy doing this.

Oh, wow. I don't know what the Diamond. I don't know what the Diamond Club did you guys. Wow. Wow. Well, you know, let's go. Claire, I never told you to F off. Let's get into it.

Hey, we're going to play a game and try to win some prizes. for people. Brian, but do you want to explain how that works and how this is going to go? I sure will. Welcome to the morning half-ass is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you the answers. I'll give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers three of which are correct and three

of which are much like my former pronunciation of the website Temu is just flat out wrong. You get depending on how confident you feel with the category you can provide one, two or three guesses, but if you get any of those guesses running, you get zero points for that round, get one right, get a point.

Two right gets you three points, three right gets you five points. The total number of points determines the winner, of course. If you get any wrong, you get zero points for that round. Did I say that? And the player with the most points after three rounds win the prize for their contestant. Contestants pulled from members of the tad pool that aren't able to listen live. Scott, you're playing for Kelly Beach up close to me here in Brighton, Colorado. Nice.

Nice. I'm not a fan of Brighton, but, you know. Brian, you're kidding. I like Brighton. My problem with Brighton, here's my problem with Brighton, is that, I like to, I want to stay in the city. When I'm lifting, when I'm Ubering, I want to stay in the city. And eventually somebody wants to go up to Brighton.

When did Brighton? Brighton is like the pool filter. Once you get into Brighton, you can't get out of Brighton. When did you guys slowly float to Brighton? Earth on everything. What is? My school, I went to Brighton High School, so this stings a little even there. Oh, that's funny.

Your Brighton might be easier to get out of than my Brighton. And the UK's, Brian and I love because they've got that awesome candy called Brighton Rock. Queen liked it so much. They made a whole song about it. Oh, my gosh. Brian, you're going to be playing for Ethan in Melbourne, Australia. I don't know how they're candy is. It's fantastic.

I have, yeah, of course, you've ever gotten any candy from down under? Yeah, it's all, but it's got eight legs and moves. Their candy is a spider. Yeah, well, I've had purple flake. No, what's it called? Purple crumble. Violet crumble? Violet crumble?

That stuff's great. Yes, Violent crumble. Violent crumble down there. No, no, Violet. Clumb. Rumble will kill you. Yeah, watch out. It's a whole spider inside of that. Exactly.

All right, let's get to the game. We've got three categories here. Oops, I need to reload. Reload the page. Relo, reload, reload. I let it sit for too long. All right, your first category and your six possible answers. Characters from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

We're familiar with Alice's. We all love Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. We love it. We call her Alice. We love Alice. All right. Characters from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Your choices are the dodo, the king of hearts, the Jabberwock, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Walrus and the Carpenter, and the Mock Turtle.

Oh, my gosh. Which of these three are from the book and which three are not from the book? I think one of them is a trick, so I'm going to avoid it. I can't, yeah We've never We've never had a tricky, tricky But it's not technically But yeah

All right Mm-hmm Oh, both of you locked in Let me put Yeah, pay attention Let me just happen Let me do on my glasses here All right

It seems like Like Captain Kipper saw the what we were putting down the dodo is from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. The Jabberwock is mentioned in Alice's through the looking glass. As are

tweedled gum and teetled a trick. It was a trick. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland featured the dodo, the King of Hearts, and the mock turtle. And the Jabberwock, Tweedledum, and Tweedledee and the Walrus and the Carpenter were all from Alice through the looking glass.

I thought King of Hearts, well, they're definitely definitely is the queen of hearts, right? The queen of hearts is in, right? So the king of hearts appears in Alice's adventures in Wonderland. The queen of hearts appears in Alice through the Licking Glass. Damn it. That just shows me how little I know. I know. It was a, they were talking about. Exactly. And you were like saying, oh, finally we get a question that isn't a trick. Good job, Brian. Yeah. Yeah. That's a much for that. Jerk. All right. Let's see if this one is a trick or not. Historical Pirates. Which of these are historical pirates? Blackbeard, Red Rackham, Rackham, hardly even know him.

Captain Hulham, Captain Morgan, Calico Jack, and Mad Jack. Three of those are historical pirates. Three of them are not. Oh, gosh, dude. I'm going to two again, because I'm scared. All right. Okay, you're both locked in. Both of you locked in with two.

Both of you locked in with Blackbeard. Yeah, Blackbeard was a pirate from 1680. to 1718. I guess he was alive from those dates. He was only a pirate from most of those years. Not all of them. He's legendary.

That guy, he's great. Captain Morgan is a rum, but he's also a pirate. He's also a pirate, baby. From 1635 to 1688. Calico Jack, also a pirate. Red Rackham is from Tintin. Captain Hook, of course, is from Peter Pan.

And Mad Jack is its own animated series. You know what I did? I mixed up Captain Morgan with the beer from the one of the family. Who was the founding father that made beer? Oh, and Franklin. No, the other one. What else made beer?

Shit. Sam Adams? Sam Adams. Samuel Adams. Yeah, okay. So I was thinking Samuel Adams for some reason. I'm like, well, he wasn't a pirate. hilarious.

Damn it. I got my, this is a problem when you're not a drinker. Well, see, if you hung out with, if you hung out with Diamond Group, as you call them. Yeah. They talk about Captain Morgan. Well, they used to do all the time. Yeah, they used to do the skid. Jerry would put his leg up on something and get interviewed by Shwitty.

All right. One last question, Brian, going into question three with three points. Got zero points, so you probably better go for this one. Objects visible to the naked eye in the night sky. So which of these things, according to NASA, can you see? Yeah, sure. Sure, all right. Better known as the Little Dipper.

Which of these can you see, according to NASA, without the aid of any equipment? The crab nebula, the small Magellanic cloud, Neptune, the moons of Saturn, Uranus, and Mercury. Which of which three of those can you see unaided with the naked eye in the night sky? I think I know some of this. Shit. I'm going to have to go for it. You do have to go for it. Go for it, dude.

Oh, all right. I don't know. Okay. All right. Scott, you locked in with three of them, the crab nebula, the moons of Saturn, and Neptune. Brian, you lucked in with also with the crab nebula and mercury. You can actually see the small Magellanic cloud, Uranus, and Mercury with the naked eyes. Scott, you picked three, the three that weren't.

Wow. That's embarrassing. know why this is embarrassing. I've been watching so much astrophysicist stuff. All kinds of stuff. Brian Cox. Brian Cox. Not Ronnie Cox. We talked about. That's what confused. We talked about that. The bad guy in Robocopy knows a lot about, you know. He's so great at that sort of thing. He's really good. But yeah, I've been so into it lately and like reading all kinds of stuff and just going deep. And I feel dumb now. I guess you never talked about seeing stuff with the naked eye. Oh, exactly. I would have said crabby. nebula as well. I thought that you could see, maybe not, you obviously wouldn't be able to make out the shape of the crab nebula, but you can at least see the fuzzy light that you, that makes up

the nebula. Well, that means that, Brian, you win for your contestant who's, uh, who's like I said, Ethan in Melbourne, Australia. Yeah. Violet Crumble. He's also going to get a copy of Soldiers. That's Soldiers with a U. Soul, because they fight with soul. and Midnight Fight Express. The worst train to be on.

I don't know what that is. It sounds like something good. Well, the only rule is you never talk about it, I guess. That's right. Exactly. But Kelly Beach and Brighton, you're going to get a copy of LX2. I don't know what that is. I don't know what any of these games are, but by golly, they're sent to us.

Again, be thanks to Wesley for sending us these games. Nicely done. Here, I'll give you this one, Don't know. Congratulations. You're a winner. I get this. Oh, that's okay. I'll do better next time.

Fletcher played Unreal Tournament with us. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he played Friday, and hopefully he'll show up again tonight. I don't know who's going to be there, but I know I'm going to be there. It sounds like it'll be there. Dunaway I'll be there. A bunch of us will be there, and it'll all lead in nicely because once that's over with, Carter and I have a new episode of the Monday show this evening.

So that'll happen right after that. So make your entertainment Monday plans now, everyone, and stick to FrogPants. to shooting it right up your crab nebula. Yeah, I can't wait for that. That's going to be fantastic. Brian, kiss our butts and suck a over. No, you. Bye.

All right, he's out. And that gives us five minutes to do some quick news, which I'm going to do right now. Whoops, right now. It's time for the news brought to you by. A lake walk where hi only happened going south. Scott, please explain. So this weird thing happened yesterday. Kim and I were going to walk all the way the length of this lake we live near.

It's about a 45 minute two and 45 minute back. Good, good high intensity up down all that. Distance. Yeah, and we were going to stop at this new pizza place they had over there, which we wanted to see how it was in support. It was really good, by the way, but I don't remember the name. Anyway, I go all the way over there, and I noticed that on the north walk, going to it, we said hi to about 15 people as they passed us.

Nobody replied. Oh, I hate that. not a soul. I hate that. I hate that. I hate it too. On the way back, everybody, maybe that equal number or more, replied and said hi. So I don't know what's going on with the southbound thing where everyone's very friendly, like we were going north. Yeah, yeah. Or I guess it was everybody going south was not happy, but everybody going north was happy. I can't figure it up. You were walking north, but the people who were walking towards you were walking south. Yeah. I don't know what that was about. It really was weird and I didn't like it. So I get irritated. And I shouldn't. You know, and I shouldn't. It's basically like, you know, people have the prerogative of saying hello and they don't, not saying hello, right? I get it. Yeah. But I frequently, like, when I'm on the bike, I always say, you know, coming up on your left. And then when I pass them, I say thank you. And only about a third acknowledge me at all, even with like just a nod or have a nice day or, yep, or anything like that. Yeah, cheer up, people. You want to go full, because stands on these people and yell that we live in a society. exactly like none of them some of them will just go to the side and then they'll just not even talk like i'll say thank you i'll say have a nice day and and uh and i you know i know that i see the ones that have earbuds in and and i understand that but if you're if you can hear me yeah if you can hear me say on your left and i say thank you you're welcome you know whatever yeah my pleasure we live in a society or exactly what does it hurt you at all to just smile you just need it's all i all i want is something that we're people right let's

acknowledge each other as people can we be people to each other and now while i will ignore anything claire says because she'll say it's something about being american right he's like we don't do that in ireland everybody says hello to each other because that's the crack yep you throw a potato that's all you do you throw a potato uh one quick news story that we'll get to here uh a mother has been jailed three years it's pretty long time for splashing, boiling water on a porn-watching sun. Yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, I'd like to know precisely when she did it.

Or on what? I don't know. That's terrible. A woman was sent us to three years in jail by, uh, the Malika Sessions court, Malika. I guess is what you say? Malacca. Yeah, Malacca. Yeah, where is this?

This is Malaysia. Malaysia. Malaysia. Malacca Malaysia. Malacca Malaysia. It's fun to say. Salam. says for splashing boiling water on her son

after she caught him watching pornographic videos on her phone. She's. Cinar Harian. Did she use a red tube to pour the boiling water? Oh, that'd be amazing. A red tube. A red tube. I don't know what that means.

I don't get it. Somebody else said. Yeah, what is that? I just, you know what they said? Chat, what is that? What is red tube? We don't know. We don't know.

It's handed down the sentence. 38-year-old woman who pled guilty after the charges were red. She was charged with intention. inflicting severe injuries on her then 13-year-old son by splashing boiling water at a house in a civil servant's residence area in the sungai undang sure malika around 256 a.m. Oh man, right in the middle of the night. Nothing good happens after midnight. Use earbuds kid. Do something to I don't know go somewhere. No, that's horrible. That is horrendous. Yeah, that's not good. It says here, however the friend's mother lodged

the police report after the friend saw his injury. So that's how this got reported. The mother of five, who is not represented, pleaded to a lighter sentence as she has three younger children, a six-year-old, a six-year-old, and a four-year-old and a six-month-old. I'm still going to put her in jail for three years? That's a lot. Let's see.

Also, following the incident, she suffered increased stress as a psychiatrist's patient and had to increase her medical dosage, medicine dosage, with the permission of her doctor from 50 milligrams to 100 per day. so up your dosage basically is what uh you're sentenced to jail and up your dosage yep those are the rules we don't make them up yeah yeah uh child abuse animal abuse i have very little sympathy for any of that yeah i'm trying to think yeah i'm trying i'm trying to think of what my kid there's nothing i can think of that any of my kids would have to do react like that nothing anything it would they would have you know what it would have to be they'd have to be charging their mother with a knife. Sure. And then I'll do something physical to stop them, but yes, but probably not. Searing them with boiling water. Whoops, I don't know why that played. Yeah, you're right. That's, I mean, that's horrible. It's so, it's boiling water. They're going to, you can die from that. Exactly. Or the worst have like, I don't know, can you get third degree

burns from boiling water? You probably can. Probably can. Yeah. Use just, you know, hot coffee. It's not quite as hot. Right. It's not going to, it's not going to blister or, or, you know, wreck your epidermis, but it gets the point across as we've learned from numerous Jason Bourne films, transporter films, just a cup of hot coffee can stop. That's all you need. You use McDonald's coffee. You might get money out of it, you know? Right.

Sue them for the big money. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. Bobby's here to do some science talk with us today. We'll see how far away his crab nebula is when we bring him on. So that'll be soon. Stick around. Before that, though, I sure could use some music, Brian.

Well, I've got some music for you. And I'm bringing it to you from a couple of siblings that perform under the name, the Muo Duo, M-U-O-D-U-O, M-O-D-U-O. This is Miles and Winter, Miles, and then his younger sister, Winter. They just released in 2022 an EP called After Pop. I think we may have even played something from that here. they've got a brand new single that they've released called Exciting Times. But Winter, who you'll hear in the song, doing vocals as well,

she's just 15, and she appeared in as Young Elsa and Disney's production of Frozen on Broadway. She's been on Sesame Street. She was in Diary of a Wimpy Kid, as well as Manifest on Netflix. And she's a great singer. Here are Muo Duo and Exciting Times. How has it been? Was that the only one so broken? Getting very carried away

To the next day, I wish I could stay. Living exciting times Bottled up lightning, face of frightening, living in excited lights I could just kiss you feel like I'd miss you just for the show whoa oh oh oh

seeing the stars on the far side or sharing a good time smoking the bar around the nightline shadows dance through colour lines Living exciting times

Complicated, underrated, living exciting lives I would just wish you Fix up your issues Give me a call I'll erase them, oh, oh Taking it day by day But you're slowly losing pieces Burning up melting away

In the atmosphere Flying by on a nose dive Living exciting times We faked in living exciting lives I hardly know you But I love you as we do Woo woo woo woo Open your eyes

You look beautiful But I don't know how to tell you Making me magnetize I'm electrified Need me up in the spotlight Living exciting times Radioactive, acting, attractive, living exciting lives

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There'll be the first of three EPs that the band is going to be dropping in the near future here. That's the song, Exciting Times from Muo Duo. Mu-o. It's fun to say. It's mu-o-d-do-o. Yeah. Good time with that. Yeah. All right. How scientific are you feeling? I'm feeling very scientific. I feel like the, I feel like if nothing else, all the epic snacks that I ate at the Super Bowl party I went to, there was a lot of science involved in making those epic snacks.

Oh, good, because great news, everybody. We have a guy here who can help suss that all out. Oh, thank goodness. Yeah. Thank goodness indeed. Let's play his little intro. Where is it? Here it is. Nope, that's not it. Science. Bob is hungry, and the soup looks good. It surely does. Bobby Franken Burger, also bound for Vegas in a couple of months.

Do you like the emphasis on burger? How do you feel like? I prefer the emphasis on Franks. Oh, really? Frank. Or Frank. Should we change the audio to say, and the burger looks good. And the burger looks good.

I'd have to go find some old-ass 1940s audio of a burger, some burger talk. but I can do it. I feel good about my chance. When I was a kid, I thought I was a genius that I'd come up with the restaurant idea that was going to, I was going to just sell hot dogs and hamburgers. Franks and burgers. Yeah, sure. And then I realized that's like the first place everybody goes to the neighbor.

But it would be Bobby's Franks and Burgers, though. Bobby's Franks and Burgers. I love it. I think there probably are restaurants called Bobby's Franks and Burgers. Like, I wouldn't be surprised. Or Bill's Franks and Burgers. There's definitely something somebody's. franks and burgers yeah you're making me hungry for both franks it's not an unusual matchup is what

i'm trying to say right yeah that sounds fantastic right now i may have i may have a poor lunch today we'll see how it goes anyway uh bobby it's good to have you here we bring bobby on for some science because this guy hosts a really great science podcast called all around science which you can find anywhere you find podcasts and uh today i i don't know what you brought i'm just going to guess it's good that's it's all i got well it was funny because at the start of the show you were like I promise you guys, we're not going to talk about the sports and the Super Bowl bunch, and mine's Super Bowl inspired. Sweet. Is it?

That's okay. The science of Super Bowls. Okay, cool. I would love to hear more. Please tell us. Well, I was reading an article on Ars Technica is a great website. I like to peruse for science information, and I just, they've got a lot of really good. I like the way they write.

And I saw an article on there that was, it was a, Talking about this controversy that I didn't even know existed. So let me start. If anybody's worried that we're going to be talking a bunch about sports, I don't follow football at all. I didn't watch the Super Bowl. Really? Not at all. None of it.

Really? No. I mean, I'll occasionally, like my daughter occasionally gets into just watching the University of South Carolina football games. And so we'll watch those together. But I'm not following it anyway. I'm just like spending time. with my daughter. Sure, right?

Yeah, being a dad, I get it. So this is not, you know, anyway, that's the disclaimer, but it's a controversy I didn't know existed, which is a controversy between whether to use real grass or fake grass on football fields. Okay, sure. In fact, the NFL Players Association

has been trying to, for the past few years, apparently, get fake grass banned. in the NFL. Oh, wow. Okay. Because the claim is that that fake grass or astro-turf or whatever artificial turf is being used increases the rate of injuries. Sure, because it's more slippery or something. Well, the reasons vary widely as to why they think that is, and that might give you a little bit of a hint on where the article comes out on whether this actually is in a, phenomenon that exists and it's it's kind of unclear is is really what it is but but there's a

there's a history behind it and there's some there's really interesting stuff to be learned about like what causes these injuries and whether or not the the thing that you're running on the the grass actually can have an impact on whether you're whether you get injured during the course of a football game sure right AstroTurf, did you know that AstroTurf was invented by Monsanto? I'm sorry, no, I did not know that. That's probably some, there's probably fuel some conspiracy or something. I was about to say that, yeah.

So that doesn't make the case for AstroTurf much better. But yeah, I was invented in 1968. And when they invented it, they claimed that AstroTurf would reduce the injury rate for football players actually by 80% that was their claim um which is a lot of of injury reduction um it didn't let's cut to the chase it didn't reduce injuries by 80% but that was their claim um the the data that people pulled out to see whether or not injury rates were reduced it looked like it might have been about the same or that that grass One of the first studies looked like it showed that real grass actually had lower injury rates than AstroTurf a little bit.

And so that's where the controversy started. So the reason I bring all that up is that this controversy has existed for a long time. Interesting. I would have thought, if you said to me, like it was a contest or one of Brian's Babel Royals or something, I would have said that AstroTurf would be significantly higher on the injury rate because it doesn't have like the soft earth. part. Or maybe I don't understand AstroTurf. Over the years, they've made a lot of changes to AstroTurf to make it as close to feeling like real grass as possible. It used to just be like polyethylene fibers that were like sewn into like a carpet base and then it would

just be rolled out, right? But over time, it's been, they've added a mix of other types of fibers into that and they've added extra padding underneath and all these kinds of things to make it feel as close to real grass as they can because that's the goal right you don't want it to be different no you just want it to be able to hold together because the goals are multifaceted right one is you want um an all weather easy to maintain right right all weather easy to maintain doesn't get all torn up and then you have to regrow or figure out how to you know quick plant between seasons or I don't know what the hell they have to do like in Green Bay, which I think is still, still grass.

But yeah, I assume that those are all factors in this, in this. And those make sense to me. It's like, yeah, it's a big professional league. You want to keep as much equality on the ground as possible. But I don't know how you also, how they reconcile that with the fact that Green Bay is turf or, you know, actual grass versus Vegas, which is obviously turf. So I don't know. I don't know how they do it. Well, and one of the other reasons, you were talking about lower maintenance, but some of the other big reasons for AstroTurf in places are places like Vegas, like Arizona.

Arizona, you know, where it's not easy to grow grass and keep it green. Hot and dry, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So they kind of make the claim they need to. And there was a, in the article talked about, I think in Arizona, there was. they actually had in Super Bowl 57 so not too long ago

but they had a real grass on their field in Glendale, Arizona at the State Farm Stadium and they spent $800,000 on the grass and it was still patchy and needed to be painted green for the Super Bowl

all right so that's a that's a lot of money that they're trying to save with And environmental arguments are made, right? Like you're spending a ton of water to try to keep it green. Right. And all that kind of stuff.

So the question is, does all this effort to save money and save water and save energy? Is it worth it because are people just going to be injured more? The place that they start, the NFL Players Association, they don't just claim the injuries are higher. but they also did a poll and apparently 92% of NFL players prefer to play on real grass as well. Oh, that's interesting.

That's a bigger number than I would have expected. Was it curious, like, if it trended more northern states or southern states like hotter places, cooler places. Well, that's interesting. I don't know. I don't have that data.

I didn't see any data about that. But it's, it does bring up what I think is an interesting thing. I always say, Brian, you've got a mind for the data. You're always thinking about stuff like that. And that's, you can't just look at the numbers. Because, so if you want to look at the numbers, the NFL publishes data on the type of injuries we're talking about are typically what are called non-contact, lower extremity injuries. So lower extremity being like. Testicles.

Testicles. Sure. Why not? We're talking about like things in the legs and the feet. Right. These shins. Yeah. You're just unaware of where Brian keeps us testicles,

that's all. No, I'm very aware. That's why I agreed with them. Gotcha. But anyway, the data that they showed was about non-contact lower extremity injuries and on natural versus artificial grass fields.

And to summarize the data, they basically showed that grass consistently showed a lower rate of injury. But it wasn't that much lower. And that's the key. And that's what you really got to think about when you can't just see that it's lower. Right. Grass showed per 100 plays. So like football play, you know, this is how football works, right? Yeah, football plays.

Sure. Yeah, first and 10. I get it. Yeah. So every 100 plays, grass. shows about three between three point three to four point one injuries right artificial shows between four and four point eight injuries so we're not talking about a big pretty minimal yeah yeah um and uh and also if you look at the data they show the error bars

the error bars because this was year by year that they showed the data the error bars on each year overlap each other now this might not immediately be like, oh, to anybody but a statistician. But what that basically means is that that that sometimes, some of the some of the real grass fields have

higher than artificial grass. There are some, yeah, there are some real grass fields that have higher average injury rate than the artificial ones and vice versa. Some of the artificial ones will have lower. So it's, it really muddles the, what you can actually figure out.

Yeah, whenever you look at data and the margin for error, like, it's a really close pair of numbers, and then they say the margin of error is two or three percent, and that overlaps what those, that two or three percent could shift either one of those to be the dominant and mine, it's almost like, okay, well, that's kind of non-data. Right, exactly. At the very least, it just shows that it's much closer, yeah. Or that it, what it says to me is that if there, that this is not the way, to parse this data.

So there may be some differences somewhere about injury rates of lower extremity injury rates, but it's not going to be by looking at year by year artificial graspers. So maybe you need to look at stadium by stadium, right? And it turns out that there was an independent analysis that did that. And they found that some of the best fields in terms of injury rates, like lowest injury rates, are artificial and some of the worst fields are are real grass now that's that's not to say that

I'm not trying to say that real grass is worse and artificial is better I'm just saying that some of those existed in those regions of course some of the worst fields were both artificial and real and vice versa right I'm sure there's a lot of you know there's here's where I don't know what's directly under the sod or the turf in the natural grass versus the astroturf fields.

Like how much dirt is there before you get to concrete? I know in the case of Legion Field, or Legion Stadium, there was, it's a concrete thing that the grass was on top of. And they basically tried to, they get the grass from L.A., and they had to put it outside to dry out for a few days because they didn't want to have the wet grass problem that they had a few years ago with people getting injured. So that feels like that's as much a factor in all this. Well, this stadium has AstroTurf, but there's two inches of padding between the concrete and the AstroTurf or whatever there is. Also, the severity, like the injury reports, when you're looking at those, this number of injuries per 100 plays versus this number of injuries per 100 plays, the seriousness of the injury. If it's something like, oh, yeah, we had more injuries, but they were all like, walk it off, you're fine. is like, oh, no, this person needed ice and we're out for the rest of the game kind of thing.

And to be fair to the NFL report, I think that they were reporting injuries that that caused players to lose time. Like, they weren't able to play in the next X number of games. So they were considering decent injuries, not just like, you know, like, oh, I cramped a muscle and I just need to, you know, know, stretch it a couple of times. That's not, they're talking about something a little bit more serious. They do have like a, they do have like a barometer for what determines an injury, and it's, and it's, and it's not narrow definition. Yeah. Yeah, but that's, that's one of the problems that the article pointed out was that if, so everywhere that you look, there's a lot of different, uh, studies and, and papers that are written trying to suss things out about injuries when it comes to lots of different things when it comes to football.

Because football is among professional sports, I think, the highest injury rate. So reducing injuries is something that they're always talking about. But in this article, they talk about how all these different papers have different definitions, like you were saying, Brian, have different definitions of what an injury is, not just the severity, but where the injury is, but they report it as an injury. Well, this paper is talking about head injuries and lower extremity injuries. This paper's talking about ACL tears only, you know, like stuff like that. And there needs to be a more consistent reporting of these injuries if you're going to make decisions

based on it, you know? Sure. Claire in the chat made a comment. She was joking saying, so to summarize, it depends. Yes, but you know what? When you're talking about controversy, that often is what the truth is is that it's complicated and that's why it's a controversy is because it's complicated and the fact that it depends

means that there's less of a difference than if it's like oh yeah no it doesn't depend AstroTurf is way worse or natural grass is way worse the fact that it depends does mean it's like all right it's closer to being in the middle and maybe there are other things that need to be looked at

to prevent injury besides the grass Well, let me ask you this, Bobby, because something I noticed last night in the game, the helmets have changed a lot in recent years. And it wasn't just for like design. It looks cool, but there's this little bump in the back now. There's also this weird thing in the front absorption plate right in the front as well. It's like this weird cut out. And I thought initially I was like, well, these are cool designs. The whole league's doing it.

Interesting. And then I went, well, it's probably not that. And I looked it up. So all of these new helmet techs are designed to not just take better hits, but also measure them. And, you know, there's all kinds of stuff going on with that. Does that mitigate this data? Is it included in it? Do they take an account, you know, advancements in equipment?

Most of the, mostly they're just looking at injury rates over time. And the, I think as far as I can tell, the NFL Players Association, who's really, really the ones they're pushing for this change to be all real grass everywhere and to ban artificial. They're just looking at the reports of lower extremity and specifically non-contact injuries. And that's important too. We're talking about injuries where there was actually one last night. I looked it up to see if there were any. There was one last night. One of the, I don't know who was some green something. Yeah. Is that the one where, he was running out after the punt return

he ran out on the field and got injured. Yeah, and he was sitting on the sidelines and a bunch of them were running on and he got a few, I saw a video of it, he got maybe five or six steps out and then collapsed. Crumpled. Yeah. Yeah. And he had an Achilles tendon tear

or some kind of an injury. And that's the type that they're talking about, not necessarily moving on to the sidelines, but there's lots of them, you know, like a wide receiver catch, one of the famous ones that really got people starting in the public to talk about and this became a big controversy was back in

in a I don't remember the year it was 2022 I got it right here Super Bowl 56 OBJ O'Dell Beckham Jr. He was a wide receiver for the Rams and he had an ACL tear after catching a ball and there were no defenders around

so he just caught the ball hit the ground and the foot went a weird way and the knee twisted and got an injury. There was Aaron Rogers tore and Achilles tendon in a similar situation in 2023 last year's season. So that's the type they're talking about is what they call non-contact.

But then again, different places, different reporting places will define non-contact differently because some will say, oh, well, maybe it's non-contact if they get pushed, but then the injury happens as a result of them, the ground is that called is that you know does that count as non-contact or not because it wasn't a result of the primary hit you know i don't know um that's things that need to be defined especially if you're trying to make decisions that you're claiming are going to benefit the health of

players right right you want to make changes that are actually going to change things because and so the the if and when it comes to ACL tears and and Achilles to all these lower extremities things the the real when the when the cleats meet the turf is is about that actual contact it's it's and that's what this paper kind or this article is talking about is that what one of the kind of conclusions is that it's very nuanced. And it goes back to what Claire said, right? It depends. Sure. It's because it really depends on what kind of cleats are you wearing and what is the, is the, is the turf that you're on. Because what really matters is the traction between the cleats and the ground. Sure.

Because studies have absolutely shown that the thing, the main thing, the main contributing factor to lower limb injuries is what it's called rotational traction. So when your foot hits the ground, whether it twists or slips, whether it slides in a rotational way under you. Yeah. And if you can reduce that, then you reduce the amount of injuries by like four to five times. It's like playing. It's like, I don't know, playing in butter or on ice or something. You don't have that friction control for the more micro movements. We're not talking about big slips like woo, like they do on Lambo field sometimes in the snow.

You're talking about these little like you've planted your. your foot. The normal thing is you've got a grip and now you're going to turn this way and normally that's fine. But if it's not holding or it gives, that's when you get in trouble. That makes sense. Right. And so maybe the result is, or maybe the solution is look at those stadiums on an individual basis. Look at what type of grass are they using? What type of cleats are their home team playing in? You know, like try to figure out if there's a pattern. There's a sensible way to increase that traction there. Some people just claim...

Oh, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, there's so much concern about concussive injury that I think some of this other stuff gets left to the side. We don't think about it as much. Well, that's another point, though,

that people make is why is the Players Association even focusing on this? Because here's the bottom line. American football is a bunch of really big people moving really fast into each other. You're going to have a lot of injury.

you know and so if you want to reduce those injuries do we want to focus on this because maybe this data maybe there's nothing in that true in that data and it really just is that people are these injuries are going to happen because of the nature of the sport and that you should be focusing on other things I think the head injuries the head trauma is definitely a good thing to oh for sure yeah yeah they get like this see these guys grunting You're hearing it. Yeah, they want to smack in each other's head as hard as they can. They want to stop that ball.

They want to, you know, their motivations literally. With Scott and Brian. Their motivations literally are all about, I need to push this back. I need to stop this. I need this person to go down. As long as that's the sport, the focus has to be on, you know. Yeah. By the way, I couldn't see the video, Scott.

But if you keep watching that, I'm going to throw boiling water on you. You know, now that you say it, it's probably not great. I was trying to find a good hit effect here. Let's try this one. Let's try that again. Why didn't that work? Hold on. Okay, let's try this one.

Oh, that's a good crunchy one. That's a nice crunchy helmet. Some folly work right there. Yeah. I like a good body. Yeah, I like that. Oh, that's good stuff, man. Giggedy.

Yeah, big giggity. Anyway, well, this is fascinating. You know, we went from, here's a big national sport moment to let's go deeper and talk about other things. That's what gets me interested in the Super Bowl. For sure, yeah, no, and I can see why. I love, like you, I love data. I love hearing about these things and like seeing what, you know, what kinds of statistics we can see between things like natural grass turf. Yeah, you should do a whole, you should do a whole episode on this, Bobby.

Are you going to or have you or will you? And we're not planning on it, but you know what we did do on the episode that just came out on Monday is on our podcast, All Around Science. Do you have your pens and pencils ready to write that down? Right here. I'll say it again, all around science. Hold on, let me write this down. All. I'm just kidding.

So we talk about science, and we just talked about the cicada. You've heard of cicadas and their swarms. Well, they're this year. in the spring there's going to be a once in a once in two centuries event which is a double brood swarm is happening oh double brood swarm once that's my favorite starcraft expansion i love that one across the sky oh my god scary wow is that uh is it going to be like the grasshopper apocalypse in Vegas that we had a few years ago this this double brood cicada it will be like that yeah but it won't be in Vegas of course they don't i don't think there's cicadas over there but Where will we mostly see this? Wetter climes? The southeast and up through states like Indiana and stuff like that through Missouri and Arkansas.

That's cool. That's cool. It's going to be all over the place and we talk a lot about it, why it's a big deal and why it is that the last time that this happened was when Thomas Jefferson was president. Oh, my gosh, dude. Really? That's crazy. That's a long time ago. we haven't had that since then that's amazing i don't know why i'm so shocked by that is singer john cicada gonna get involved with any of this i hope not a surprise surprise special interview

oh wow that's a get that's a really good get that's a huge get nicely done i hope i hope i'm not about to disappoint any fans well you and mora should be thankful john cicada's been disappointing people for decades so i think you're just fine yeah you'll be all right well bobby this stuff It's always great. Again, all around science. Wherever you get it, it's available all places. And Bobby, it's always nice having you here. Is there anything else you'd like to say to complete your time in front of us here today? There's not. Goodbye, then. Well, then he's gone then. No you. Okay. No you. All right. We are done. Real quick note, though, however, so tonight, if you want to watch us play a little Unreal tournament or even play yourselves, if you can get in, I think we have 20 slots or something, 24. It'll be 4.30 p.m. mountain time today. And after that, Carter will be home from work. And I will be sitting down with her for another episode of the Monday show.

If you missed it last Monday, we will have an actual working RSS feed for the podcast tonight as well. And, of course, the video archives will always be up for people. So come check it out. I hear that show has made the Boomtown Rats and Bob Geldof really change their tune. Yeah, big time. Yeah. Ooh, you just reminded me of something. Oh, really?

I wanted to ask you, because I assume you've either seen it or you're going to, and if you have seen it, I want to know what you think. The greatest night in pop music history? Yes. It's on my list to watch this week. Okay, because I'm so curious about it, dude. Oh, I've heard so many good things. I can't wait to watch it. I wish there was one.

I'm excited to see this one, but man, I wish there was one for Band-Aid. Oh, yeah, Band-Aid to be good. That was more my music than the people that they got for this one. but if nothing else, I'm hoping I'll finally learn why Dan Aykroyd performed with We Are the World. Oh, are we going to finally get an answer to that? We'll finally get an answer to that. Exactly. Are we going to get info about why Bob, not Gildoff, Bob, the other Bob.

Newhart? No. Oh, the singing guy from, he's a classic. Dylan? Dylan, why Bob Dylan looks so grumpy the whole time or why, or not grumpy. he just looked confused well that's he was like

what's going on here you know and then you got but Michael Jackson there are people dying it's time to land the hand and Michael Jackson looked like irritated and

what's her name I hear Lionel Richie was more instrumental in this whole thing than then we even give him credit we think of it as like a who's the producer

behind it was it Quincy Jones Quincy Jones For whatever reason, for whatever reason, that's what I'm thinking with this. Like there was Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson deal. And no, Lionel Richie apparently was the dude who at the AMAs cornered people and said, no, no, we need you for this. We need to get you for this.

Oh, interesting. Oh, yeah, here it is. It even says the song was written by Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie and produced by Quincy Jones and Michael Omartian. How do you say his name? Okay. I didn't know Michael Jackson co-wrote. that song with Lionel Richie. Yeah. Yeah, and he has a totally different writing style. He doesn't, he basically, from what I hear, records, he gets the melody, or God, I guess he's not around

anymore. He got the melodies in his, spoiler alert, Michael Jackson, not around anymore. Yeah, he's not here. Got the melodies in his head would sing them into a tape recorder, then take that tape out and put another tape in, and record a drumbeat, and then he'd take that tape out and put another one, and somehow you play all these tapes together, and you get this demo version of a song. Wow. It's amazing. That is amazing. Well, it looks good, and I want to see it.

So, thanks for reminding me. That's going to do it for today's show. So watch all that stuff tonight. Also, if you're looking for more stuff about us, go find it at frogpans.com slash TMS. Brian, it's time to get out of here. Would you please play us a song so we can do that? I guess. Yeah, this is, we talked about, do we talk about Bruce Springsteen?

He's involved in that thing, in that we are the world. and he's interviewed in it as well. Bruce inspired this email right here. Hayden wrote in and said, Hey, Brian and Scott, I turned 30 on February 1st. I'm getting to a lot of these older ones that I missed in the first part of the month because we had a lot in the first part of the month.

Hey, Brian and Scott, turning 30 on February 1st, which I think is also Brian's son's birthday. So happy birthday to him as well. Getting really into my old man era and listening to a lot of Bruce Springsteen and Pink Floyd lately. Love the show. Been listening since the ELR. days, re-listening to episodes constantly on my iPod video at school. Oh, the old iPod video.

Wow. I hope it's the, uh, the black one with kind of the bulbous front, like it's a little bit rounded on the front. I like that one. Yeah. Thanks for all the memories over the years signed Hayden. Awesome. Love hearing that. That's great. Love it. That's so cool. Uh, yeah, he says, uh, any cover of older Bruce Springsteen, preferably something harder or rockier. So, you know, I'm not going for the ghost of Tom Jode stuff or the born in the USA stuff. I'm going a little bit earlier

to darkness on the edge of town and a song called Adam Raised a Kane. This one covered here by a band that I love and hope to get to see live. They perform at the Stanley Hotel, the hotel that inspired Stephen King to write The Shining.

And one of these years, I want to go see one of their shows up there because apparently they go up there a lot, sometimes even on Halloween. Murder by Death is the band. As You Wish, Volume 2 from 2015 included this cover of Bruce Springsteen's Adam Raised a Cain. Father held me to his side As they put me to the water You said on that day I cried

We were present of love A lobe in chain He was standing in the door I was standing in rain With the same hot blood our veins Adam raised the cane Adam raised the cane

Adam raised the cane Adam raised the cane All of real faces Ask you why you're bang They fit With position Till daddy's cat a thing In the darkness of your room, your mother called you by your true name.

You remember the faces, the place is the name. You know it's never over. That's right, let let's rise the rain. Adam, raise the king. Adam, raise the king. Adam raise the king. Adam raise the king. I'm not

I'm going to be the I'm going to be the I'm going to be. In the battle came to Louis Abel and he's the leader he was cast To fly into this right

For the sins of the man's His past That he wanted Oh, I find nothing but the pain Now he walks his empty rooms Looking for something to blame You inherit the sames You inherit the flames

Adam raised the cane Adam raised the king Adam raised the king Adam raise the king Adam raise the king Love had not forgotten From the dark of a dream Adam raised the king

Adam raise the king Adam raise the king Adam raise the king Adam raise the king Adam raise the king Adam raised the king Adam raised the king Adam raised the king

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