The Morning Stream - TMS 2602: Stapies

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

Old Man, you can't stretch out your arm. Fruit Of The Shroom. Stan Lee Cup. Excelsior! Happy Little Vacuum Flask. Inner Sanctum Sanatorium. Whatshisface Deloreon. Chicken Crab Money. The King Of Kornh...olio. Unreal arm pain. Koolaid in a Vacuum. I'm rigid as hell. Spill Demekis. Yeah, I'd tap that mug. Pumbaa 2: Electric Who is Who. Bone on Bone Action with Dan, and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 People like diagonalization, Joel Moronares, and Jason Rife, or Rife. Sign up today at patreon.com, and I can mess up your name. Patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on TMS, old man, you can stretch out your arm. Fruit of the Shroom. Stanley Cup, Excelsior. Happy little vacuum flask. Inner sanctum sanatorium.
Starting point is 00:00:58 What's his face, DeLorean? Chicken crab money The king of Cornholio Unreal arm pan Coolade in a vacuum I'm rigid as hell Speal de Meccas Yeah I tap that mug
Starting point is 00:01:09 Pumba 2 Electric Who is Who Bone On Bone Action with Dan And more on this episode of The Morning Stream No rain But your car is bound to get dirty So give your car a car wash
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Starting point is 00:02:11 Wow, something decided to just hanging out in my throat for no good reason. It's Tuesday, February 20th, 2020. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibittai. Hello. It feels like just hours ago that we were playing some unreal tournament. And I was getting a crook in my wrist because my keyboard is at a dumb angle and my monitor is even dumber.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I don't really have a good setup for PC playing. That's all, you know, my setup is for PS5 Mac and switch playing. I kind of have a similar issue except I use now a HDMI splitter that lets me turn on. So I have a series S in here. I have the PS5 and then a PC and they're all hooked up to that. So when I want to switch to one of them,
Starting point is 00:03:06 I can kind of still just do it the same place. I angle my camera a little bit, but it's still a pain to the ass. It's not great. It's not perfect, but it is what it is. It is what it is. I'm pretty sure that Unreal Tournament stuff
Starting point is 00:03:18 is what's flaring my arm up, to be honest. Could be, yeah, because that's what it seemed to start, right? Yeah, and I had it in my 20s when I was playing those games real hardcore. oh no yeah pre-show for those of you who are patrons shame on you but no kidding but those of you who didn't hear the pre-show scots got a little uh little ache in his arm business yep if i'm moving a certain way and do it too quickly it just about lays me out like to the point of sure wow white hot pain
Starting point is 00:03:45 it's like ah and for those who are like well go to the doctor i've been to the doctor she's looked at the doctor said don't do that they said quit doing that quit putting it in place it hurts a long story. Play the Lion again. Become a patron and find out more. All right, everybody. Yeah, please, please. We got a whole show today.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We got all kinds of stuff. Dan's coming up later. So for those of you who love board games, good news. For those of you hate them, bad news. Whatever. You know, for those of you hate board games, who are you? Who are you that hates board games?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Any kind of board game, whether it's, even my Aunt Barb, she's not a fan of, you know, when we come over and I bring a huge box that's got a, you know, rulebook that takes 20 minutes to explain. Yeah, they don't want to, you know, she still likes the, still likes the, well, can't we, why don't we just play, like, Ticket to Ride or Monopoly or sorry or something? Oh, Ticket to Ride is always on the menu.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I love that game. It is. And you know what? It's a really good, kind of right in the middle of that, okay, here's a really involved game that's got a lot of rules. And then here's pop-a-matic trouble. Right? It's basically like right there in the middle that the great equalizer. Anybody can play it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It feels like. Although I think about the youngest you want to be is around 10 or 11. Yeah, because you need to be able to plan ahead several steps and think about, you know, how am I going to get from Seattle to Phoenix when they've got all that stuff lined up? Yep. I love German games that are based in America, the game itself, I mean. So like that game's made by a German company. won every possible award over there the spiel de speckis or whatever the hell it's called where they all
Starting point is 00:05:29 win things and uh just an amazing game but it looks like some old-timey american you know is this what is this what they think it looks like over here is this uh yeah and i'm sure it's spiel de schmeckis i'm sure that's exactly spiel de schmeckis that sounds like uh that hell sounds a little uh giddish he's got a little spiel de schmecis going on yeah i uh i don't know how that I don't know. What is it? Spill Dejaris or something? Spill Dejar. Yeah. Spill Dejar. All right. Dan can correct us. Spill the barge. Who's Johnny? He said,
Starting point is 00:06:05 do, do, do, do, do. All right. So we had a message yesterday that I thought it would be good to put on the show because we have a few of you out there floating around who are listeners who are also parents and maybe you have young children and you're like, man, my kid sure likes to draw, but I don't know what to have them draw or I don't know what stuff to do or how to get them going. And we got a message like that yesterday, and I have a great recommendation that just happened to be on our table the other day, and the boys loving it. So here it is. On TMS today, Scott was talking about kids' art, and I was wondering if either of you had good recommendations for apps or books about art and drawing. My daughter is six and loves drawing in art. Thanks, love the show, though, Jimmy from Arizona. Well, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim, James, Jimmy in Arizona. Don't know why I struggled on that one.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. That was weird. Jimmy says, get my name right. Yeah, that was weird. On Amazon right now is this book that we ended up getting. I was going to grab it and I couldn't find it handy, but it is called How to Draw 101 Things. And here I'll put it up for the chat.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, my window's all left up. There we go. Oh, this is cool. Yeah. So what you do is you go in there and there are everything from, well, even says in the description, animals, plants, sports, foods, really everything you can think of, 101 of them. and every one of them has kind of a little step by step you can follow but it's not
Starting point is 00:07:28 it's not strict though it's like you can do that and I recommend that because I think it's good for kids to do the process but if they're just little creative wonderkins who just want to go I'm just drawn it's rocket I'm not I don't need to you know they don't want to do steps that's fine too the book encourages creativity and let's see what is it 11 bucks for the hardback paperback yeah 10 yeah 10 15 You know, it's great. Yeah. It's an easy price.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, very good little thing. And I'd recommend it, by the way. People are always like, what about digital? I think that it's actually better for kids to just pull out some paper and some crayons. And it doesn't matter. Crayons, pens, pencils, it really doesn't matter. Just give them some physical implements. Give them some surface to do it on.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And you're golden. And this is cool. Like, I'm looking at the food items and the animals and vegetables and fruits. And then I'd find something vacuum flask. What the frick? What is that? I don't know. Is this a British thing?
Starting point is 00:08:26 It sounds British. I put it in our Discord chat. Like, what the heck? Vacuum flask. Oh. What is that? I don't know what that is. It's a plastic pitcher is what I call that thing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 All right. There it is. Chad, he's got a little smile. Do you guys, this sounds British. It's definitely not a thermos. I know, I mean, vacuum flask. That's what I think of is like, oh, okay, like a, like a, a thermos, but that's like a plastic pitcher.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's like something that you put water and you carry it around the house to water the plants. Yeah, I don't know what that's for. Or do you guys have a thing that goes in a vacuum when it fills, you pull it out, but it looks like a picture of Kool-Aid? Like, what are you doing over there? It does look like it's Kool-Aid man's not quite a ready nephew. Yeah. Like, oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And I'm pretty sure this person is. British. The Sophia Elizabeth person. So maybe it is and we just want to understand and that's fine. We're okay. Sure. Sure. We're here to learn along with the rest of you.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But anyway, yeah, it's a very cool, very cool little book. And really the main thing, though, even if you don't want to do the book, is just sit and draw with them. And around five years old is the best year. I've said this before, but it always is like for whatever reason, their brains are ready. What they want to do goes to their hand, goes to the pen. And they make some wild-looking stuff, you know, primordial and weird, but, you know, amazing visual stuff from a five-year-old. And it's a perfect time to do it with them.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And especially if they love it, the main thing is that you're there doing it with them and you're golden. You don't even need this book. You don't need anything. You just need to draw and talk about, well, let's do a bird. Let's do a frog. Let's do whatever. And it also helps them visualize things, breaking them down into parts. You know, you look at something, and I'm notorious for this when I draw something that's like, oh, my God, that'd be so much effort to draw.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And then you start breaking down, well, that's basically a circle. And that's like an oval right here. And this is just kind of like an oblong, and then you break it down in pieces and teaching how to do that, how to do that thing. Dr. Calhoun has figured out what the vacuum flask is. It's like one of those, yeah, like a pitcher, what we can't tell. It looks like the top of that thing is open. but it's really like a flat thing that you almost like a carafe oh okay yeah is this uh were we right about more vacuum sealed carafe kind of thing okay yeah is this mostly
Starting point is 00:11:04 british i don't know why i'm hooked on the british part because it just feels british to me for whatever reason it's so weird and foreign it's just weird if you said thermos or no it was a vacuum flask, I would just go, oh, you Brits and your, your lorries and your... Well, it's Sophia Elizabeth. Elizabeth is a mother with two children. She loves to draw and often help her children draw simple
Starting point is 00:11:28 things. Er, yes. But, yeah, no information about Sophia Elizabeth other than that she's got kids. All right. Maybe they're little British kids. We don't know. But, no, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I haven't heard the term you know, when you described as that craft thing for sure it feels yeah like a like okay because those are vacuum sealed to keep things hot totally makes sense yeah that makes sense now now I get it now I kind of want a hot beverage of some sort I don't have one you have a hot beverage there with you right you always do exactly it always do yes this is this is somewhat of a vacuum flask although spider flask it's vacuum insulated on the inside right like yeah I think so I'm not I'm not tapping something that's tapping the liquid I'm
Starting point is 00:12:16 tap in some that's tap in air that's around the liquid. Yeah, and these are, I think this is the same. It's got like a thick inner sanctum. Exactly. You know what you should do, by the way, with that thing. You should get a sticker of Marvel Comics founder, late-grade Stan Lee, and then you can stick it on there and call it a Stanley mug or Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Oh, shit. We should do it. Or Stan Yeti, because mine's a Yeti. Stan Yeti. Yeah. Even just the pair of sunglasses and, uh, and, uh, mustache. It just says, I think we have a new, I think we have a new mug idea for the store. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, write this down somebody. Stanley Cup. And think of the, the SEO that you'll get from having these Stanley Cups, TMS Stanley Cups on, on the store. Now that you say that, I have, we are working on some of these, these thermos things. Yeah. Oh, you really? It's way more fun. This is a way funner idea.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And I could draw up something with Stan Lee on it. And Brian, we'd get full credit for this, because this is a great idea. I'd never thought of this. Stan Lee. Yeah. Stan Lee. Do you have a Stan Lee? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's great. I'd take it to the gym. Right here. Excelsior. Excelsior. That's great. Okay. We got a call asking if we'd seen something, and the call will explain what that means.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Hi, this is Amanda. Messages for TMS. I just recently listened to your recommendals on. January 3rd, and Scott, you were saying that you really like weird out-there movies, and I'm wondering if you or any of the recommendal people have watched the movie, Inc., I-N-K, 2009, I believe the director was Jamin Wynens, if I pronouncing that right. Really cool, but messed up movie, and there's really no way to explain it. So if you haven't seen it, I think it's streaming on some of the freer places, freebie and those ones, but you can also rent it from Apple.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So hopefully you'll put this on the show because I'm really curious if any of you have seen it. Thanks, bye. This is the 2009 Inc. INK. Yeah. This is whack, man. I'm looking at the just the little silent trailer that they put on IMDB right next to the movie poster. and oh I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:46 it's freaking weird what is going on here yeah it's reviewed pretty well too pretty decent yeah it's because five people saw it and three of them liked it
Starting point is 00:14:55 that's why it reviewed well oh weird what are we doing yeah right and you would just see the the weird face smiling yeah I don't like him at all
Starting point is 00:15:05 I'm not a fan of that guy this looks like it's potentially nightmare fuel but oh I'd watch Watch this. Yeah, I'd watch this. Freebie?
Starting point is 00:15:14 I got freebie. I'll do that. Freebie. Oh, it's on Plex. I have Plex. Stars, uh, oh, stars Jessica Duffy, born in Denver, Colorado. Do we know, do I know her for something? Known for ink.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Whoa, slow your roll, Bactress. And ironically, spotless. Another, the other of her four films that are listed here. She looks familiar in these. shots she does yeah but uh i think she's just because i've just seen her around town every every tv how's the uh how's the uh how's the film kre gone every every show ever made has this lady a lady that looks like it this right yeah it's no offense to her she looks lovely but look at this that's oh this was filmed in denver hobbs dog says really look brian you got a little home
Starting point is 00:16:04 this looked like it wasn't filmed in anything that even looks human like it doesn't even It looks like it was filmed in the fire in the sky spaceship or something. Yeah. Wow. All right. Hobbs dog is definitely pushing it. We're getting a thumbs up, eh? Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. All right, Amanda. You know what? You did it. We're going to watch it. It apparently takes a lot for me to bring out the descriptive whack. But apparently that was all it took was seeing that trailer and go, this is whack. It is whack.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It is whack. It is whackety whack. It is what it is. That might be a couple decades old, but I still like what you did there. I'm adding it to my, I'm pulling up my Apple Notes document with my checkboxes and adding it to the, this is a Brian only thing list. Free V. Because I don't see Tina wanting to watch this. It doesn't look like something Kim would enjoy either.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So, yeah. These are, this is a movie we're going to have to experience on our own. And we'll report back. Maybe we, maybe not by this met recommendals, but maybe by the next recommendals, you and I will see it. and then we can just speak to it every month. We'll just talk about it as, yeah, we'll make an official recommendal rule. Unless we love it, if it's amazing, maybe we'll recommend it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Maybe, maybe. It does look like I need to go to Vegas and load up on some gummies to watch it. It looks like it'll supplant that. You won't need to do, it'd be redundant to do gummies and watch this film. This is correct. All right, let's talk about frog mushrooms. Hey there, everyone. This is Tony on the last episode,
Starting point is 00:17:39 2598, I believe you guys talked about the mushrooms on the frog. Well, fun little fact about mushrooms that I didn't know about until recently, but those are actually the reproductive organ of the fungus usually underground. So really, when you eat mushrooms, you're eating fungi, genitalia. Ew. Have a good one. Bye. Never thought of it that way. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Oh, yeah. That's true, right? They're like the stapies and the... The stamen? Stapies. What's the stapies? That's something. I've got stapies. Steepies. Eat more fruit. I got stapies. Wait, what's this? There is a...
Starting point is 00:18:30 Oh, it's one of the bones. Pestol and the stamen or stamen. What's the other bone? You have a bone in your ear called the stapies. Right? No. You've got the, it's the hammer, the stirrup, and the anvil, and their real name, or their, their, their Latin names are, oh, I should remember this. What's wrong with us? Yes. Why are we bad? Chat room, help me out here. What are the, what are the three bones called, the Latin names for the three bones in your ear?
Starting point is 00:18:58 It's the anus, the stapeas, the hammer, and the anvil, and they're the stapies, apies, and crepeas. yeah nailed it I don't know of anything called stapies but sure yeah why not also that reminds me of a conversation we had once that I think we should relive right now okay
Starting point is 00:19:18 yeah okay so check this out this is uh whoops I got to pull it up so I can crank up the volume just a tad because it's a little on the quiet side the Nina the pinta and the center
Starting point is 00:19:30 that's it there it is that's the one Timon was a producer's guy it was uh yeah um oh hey bio cow says it's the uh the bird cake the tympanic membrane yeah the bony ausicles called the umallius the incus and the stapeys so it is stapeys i wasn't crazy the the latin name of one of those little earbones good job oh my gosh wow i was sure i was
Starting point is 00:19:54 being stupid i guess the stirrup is the is the stapeys that would make sense right because the uh the s word that's the one s word in the list yeah i don't know actually all right well done All right. The other two, though, I'm sorry, I doubted you. Well, look, sometimes Stapies wins out in the end. Yes. Remember this? Max, I should stay away from Stapy.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Does this room, do you remember this conversation? This is about two minutes, but it's worth playing here. Timoan. No, Timoan was, um, Timoan was, uh, producer's guy. It was, uh... Yeah, um, what's his name? The birdcage. Um, yes, right.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Uh, chicken, chicken, Cherokee. Chicken crap money. Jerry, Von, flattery. I don't know. I can't remember his name. I'm just going to have fun and just let you go with that. I think some of Nathan Lane, geez.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Nathan Lane. Nothing like that. And I can't remember who was Pumba. But Pumba's not coming back, so. No Pumba. Rafiki, though, was played by... Pumba die and I forgot. Pumbu was played by Benson.
Starting point is 00:21:03 No, no, no. Benson was the bird. No, no, no, not the bird. The bird was the British actor. Robert Guillaume was the... Was the monkey. Oh, I'm sure, was the monkey, yeah, but not Pumba. Yeah, but Rafiki is the monkey, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Rafiki is the monkey. Pumba is the warthog. Right. What I'm saying is that Rafiki is being played by somebody in Carrie Payton, who is not... Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, gotcha. Not Benson. I'm still hung up on Pumba.
Starting point is 00:21:31 What happened to Pumba? Pumba. is gone. They ate him. I don't know. He's pork. Well, look, my understanding is that lions eat bores. Did you know that there was... Okay, so apparently there was a Lion King one and a half.
Starting point is 00:21:46 No. And Lion King 2, Simba's pride. I did not know that. Maybe Pumba died. Did you know that Ferris Bueller played Pumba when he was an adult? Adult Pumba? Did you know that? You mean, Delt Simba? Oh, that's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah, no. There's no adult Puma. You know, maybe it's
Starting point is 00:22:04 How many people are just giving up and switched off there? That's really bad. Okay. When was this? This was... Wow, folks. And we've only gotten dumber since then. Eight years ago, by the way, eight or nine years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Eight years, wow. Good Lord. That's crazy. Your mic sounds different back then for some reason. It totally did. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's probably... a whole mixer ago or maybe even a whole mic ago that might have been with the um the old sure
Starting point is 00:22:39 before the yeah the high um we're at least oh you're back to the high oh yeah it's a whole story yeah is this was this during the whole like where's that buzzing coming from yeah that whole scenario by the time i got everything pulled out and moved around i was like i'm not moving all this back i'm just putting it where it is so the the gaming one over here the one i was on last night for unreal that one is the new one and then this one's for this and then this one's for this and then Carter Kim's is over there. Cardacim's. Carter Kims.
Starting point is 00:23:08 All right. Did you, oh, yeah. Let's talk about this. True Detective. I know it's finished. I'm terrified. I keep hearing it ended bad. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:23:18 I just hear, what I've heard is ambiguous. Here's where I'm at. I'll tell you where we're at right now. Because we went through a big binge of the show and watched three episodes Sunday night. We watched two and a half. episodes last night. So we're basically halfway through episode six, the finale. Okay. This is, um, oh, holy cow, scariest season of, of true detective yet.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, I agree. They take a while to get to it, though, right? They take, they take a minute to get to the scary. Um, no, I don't feel like they did. I feel like there is scary, even in the opening, the, the pre-intro, and the, the actual intro itself with the Billy Eilish song, um, Um, Barry a friend is that is on the level of that first season of American horror story intro being like, yeah, uh, I'm really uneasy about this whole thing. Yeah, I didn't let that thing still freaks me out that intro for that show. Yeah, it is so freaky.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But anyway, um, so far really liking it. And I've been hearing the same thing like, you, you see a headline. Producers explain the ambiguous ending. It's like, oh, I don't want to know that. Just the headline kind of scares me a little bit. ambiguous ending ambiguous ending but I know you watched recently watched seasons two and three
Starting point is 00:24:39 did you do one as well well I'd already seen one so I didn't rewatch it but you didn't do one in your oh you didn't do a rewatch of one before two and three no just jumped right to two I watch I may have seen one twice but it was way back when I just binged it twice or something yeah okay because I really like season one
Starting point is 00:24:57 and I really liked I ended up I actually quite like season two it's a very different season I'm not going to say it's the best season, not even close. It's just a very different kind of story. It's the worst of the four seasons, but it's still pretty good. Yeah, I still enjoy all those actors and stuff and all that, but three
Starting point is 00:25:13 I really liked three. In comparison to how good season one was, I think that was just the deal. Like, when you compare it, if you just put it right up against season one, it's a difficult it's difficult to hit that bar again because Woody and McConaughey were just so dangue. They were amazing, Alexandria, DeDario.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Three was, three were real. Alexandria, DeDario. She's the best. We love Alexander. We love her. The Hank Tufts. Yeah. There's some... Stuff going on there. The third one, the third season's amazing, but my main takeaway from three was I didn't expect... Not Brad Dorff.
Starting point is 00:25:48 What's his name? The other one, the one that plays the vampire. I don't remember a thing about season three except for Marshallie being really, really good. And that's all I remember about season three. Can't think of his name. Not Brad. I need to do a rewatch of it. Two is amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I was... Or not two. Sorry. Three is incredible. Three was really good, yeah. All right, so you're far, but you're further than me, because I'm only three, four episodes into season four. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So you've started season four. So when you're saying it takes a while, it's taken a while for it to build up for you. I think maybe if I, if I would binge it, I think I would be enjoying it more. It's not that I'm not enjoying it. It's just that it felt like the first few episodes were real slow burny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And, you know, Harry Potter's mean aunt was there. And I'm like, okay. See, and I think of her as, as killing Eve as the the leader of the covert group that
Starting point is 00:26:40 Oh right She's great in that I forgot about that. She was great in Andor She was the Andor lady With the hologram lady With the robot
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah And she lived everybody She lived and everything Was fine Sure totally Totally just fine Still living and doing great Doing great
Starting point is 00:26:57 But anyway Yeah so I'm a little worried About this But screen crush Love screen crush if you haven't checked out, screen crush the channel. Lots of great, like, not really explainer videos, but like, here's the, here are 101 things that you missed
Starting point is 00:27:10 if when you watch blah, blah, blah, and Easter eggs and connections. I'm fascinated by what they've done with True Detective without being spoilery, but saying that it is connected to other seasons of True Detective. In much the same way that all the seasons of Fargo are connected. I definitely got some of that, vibe this time.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah, I didn't get it up until this season. Yeah, the other season's not so much, right, exactly. And I'm sure that there's tiebacks. Well, there are tiebacks in this season to the previous season, but there's also a big, big tieback to one, which is, I'm sure you know about at the stage because you're far enough long. And that's pretty crazy. That is pretty crazy. I like that, though.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I like anthologies anyway, but I like it when they have just little strings to connect things, you know? I like that. For sure. for sure feels like they're trying to do that a little bit here is have their own fargo that's what i was warning if you if you'd uh heard about the connection or caught the connection or if you'd watch season one recently enough that's like oh well that totally makes sense yeah once you get there you go oh okay it kind of makes me want to watch season one again
Starting point is 00:28:20 because i only watched it the one time i saw it went all right all right all right first thing i said no spoilers no spoilers uh awesome well anyway so you're you're good that's good you're enjoying it and you'll finish that out what tonight or something i'll finish that up tonight we've got uh trivia tonight but i think it we're playing at the um a place that's fairly close to the house so we'll be able to finish true detective bless you thank you bless you holy moses that was a that was a rough one i think it lost it too i think that came from way down you know it did i've been holding on that one for weeks yeah um yeah so we'll we'll watch the end of that tonight and then i'll report back tomorrow and say, here's my
Starting point is 00:29:01 take on the ending, the non-spoilery take on the ending of True Detective Season 4. Yep. Tomorrow's dent apocalypse for me. I have to go to the dentist after the show. So we have the show and then I go to the dentist and they fix this half-broken freaking crown. I hurt two weeks ago, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Snap that off. Everything's fine. Doesn't hurt. It's just they got to fix it. And then there's another tooth where I can just tell I've chipped it. And I don't know what he's going to say. Is he going to get in there and go, oh, we got Another big bummer from high school. Time to take that and turn it into a night.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Just dreading it, dude. Dreadn't. I don't want to go. I really don't. Someone can go for me or you know what? How about I load up on like, I don't know, I probably got a neighbor who's got like, you know, tranquilizers or something.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You know, I could go sneak into their house. You got me as dummies, don't you? Oh, I'd love that. That'd be great. Yeah. Yeah. Those Vegas companies. You don't have any Mike Tyson ears left?
Starting point is 00:29:55 I thought you had some Mike Tyson ears. Oh, no. We went through those like crazy. Those are gone. those are out no more mike tyson ears wasn't there there was a whole thing where they couldn't sell those for a while but then they did because yeah yeah uh hollyfeld had to agree to it or something did he because technically it's his ear yeah so he got like a cut or something like he had to he got a portion he got a piece of his own ear is what he got that's right exactly
Starting point is 00:30:20 amazing all right uh let's do some news and uh dive down that rabbit hole before we get around to dan time which uh will be soon so everybody stick around for that. Here we go. Here's this. Where is it? Here it is. I don't watch the news. It's the news. And it's brought to you by. Tondagasa in our chat room has a pretty great Twitch channel. Give them a look at Twitch.tv. Tadu-D-T-O-N-D-A-G-O-S-S-A. And see how it's done. Yep. Does games, does other stuff. I don't know if it, is it Tandagasa or Tandagasa? I always said Gosa, but I don't actually know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. For whatever
Starting point is 00:30:59 and I thought gaza because of the double S. Donner-Dunaway calls him Tonda and just does it short. Tonda. Yeah, and part of me thinks he's confused with Tranda. Taranda. But then also, I think he does it because he just is lazy and doesn't want to do the last part. So that's why I just take that Dunn away. It might be, right?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Like, it's like, I don't know if I'm just going to skip it. Yeah. It's not that you're super friendly or you guys are super close. It's that you don't want to bother trying to find out if Gasa or Gosa is correct. Take that done away. All right, I'll fight you on the battlefield. Let's get moving with this story here.
Starting point is 00:31:34 A university just awarded cornhole scholarships to two Colorado athletes. Oh, great. Brian, you can celebrate. In your own state. It feels like a little podunk. It makes it sound like, yep, yep, we're getting a cornhole scholarship. I mean, I don't know. You know, we have buildings here, people.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We have a downtown area. We have light rail. That's true. You guys have a full-on metropolis. You have two, I'm sorry, three major major league teams in various sports. Four, and NFL? Wait, what's the fourth one? I can't think of it. The Avalanche, the Nuggets, the Broncos, and the Rocky?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Oh, the Rocky shit. I always forget about the Rockies. Gosh, dang it. Well, they're forgettable. Lately so. Forgetting about themselves. It's fine for you to forget them. Yeah. See, that's a big deal. actually okay to forget the you shouldn't be worried about cornhole in a state
Starting point is 00:32:32 that's got four major league teams exactly exactly but whatever I'm shocked I mean as everyone is says Gavin Ham it's crazy it's groundbreaking it's new it's making history oh geez that's what this guy says on a national signing day Thunder Ridge high school student
Starting point is 00:32:50 Jackson Remick spelled with an X J-A-X-S-O-N his parents are cool man those are kids those are 90s kids raised on mortal combat so they stuck a little jacks in there like that yeah right he's got one metal arm yeah it's uh and a laser eye that's right am i thinking of the right guy no laser eye uh laser eye is cano oh right and jacks had jacks did have one he has both arms missing both both arms were missing yeah and they would both well in later
Starting point is 00:33:22 games they both would fire out like missiles certain movie you can do so the arm would detach and like attack the other guy it's great so can i talk about thunder ridge really quick yeah so down in highlands ranch and um that's not a typo uh thunder ridge is really spelled with no space but capital t and capital r like it's like it's a product name that's how it's incorporated like that's the city uh town or a city or whatever no the the city is uh highlands ranch oh okay the high school is thunder ridge with with all one word with no space and and a capital r in the middle for Ridge. A high school. A high school. Thunder Ridge. Where you're supposed to learn how words work. Right, exactly. That's F. I think it's a little, yeah, we're overdoing it here. It's,
Starting point is 00:34:07 you know, Robocop, fine. War games, sure. Thunder Ridge, not necessary. Yeah, Robocop may always made sense to me because it's branding. But you don't know. It's Robocop. Right. It would have been dumb to have that as two words. Right. But Thunder Ridge. But Thunder Ridge. Yeah. I'd sell that for a dollar, is what I'd say. that's right well they are now they made history of these two kids for becoming the first division one five star cornhole recruits in the country wow great yeah it was a big deal division one five star cornhole recruits and he says what a world we're living in that's right uh it says this is a quote it says this is not just cornhole anymore this is not just something it is just cornhole I know I feel like telling him it's like no it's cornhole it is definitely that yeah yeah uh It's not just Cornhill you see on ESPN, see pros playing. This is something that is now going to give kids an opportunity to get scholarships, potential full rides, eventually, said Winthrop University Cornhole coach, Dusty Thompson. Of course, his name is Dusty Thompson.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Dusty Thompson. That's amazing. Look, no offense to Cornhole. I play it when there's a family around. It's a good backyard game. Sure. You know, but really had you get your college paid for? oh i'm really good at throwing a bean bag that's right real good into a hole right into the hole every time son
Starting point is 00:35:30 and sometimes i again if i could have done that i'd be totally fine with it got in a free ride to scholarship sure i'll take it yeah yeah sometimes i'm even good at knocking the other bag in the hole with my bag right exactly uh this is winthrop from rock hill south carolina i don't know if bobby can tell us where that is but so rock hill south carolina where the first division one institution is located that did this now colorado's in the in the fight i never would have thought picking up this hobby about two and a half years ago would turn into a d1 scholarship and a five-star recruitment at this school says her hammering anyway they're really these two these two kids are stoked all right there is the picture of them right there good for them i'll give it to them
Starting point is 00:36:18 to have the way have their moment it's fine why does why is every teenager haircut right now, the really close cropped back and sides and then curly like your Lindsay Buckingham on top. Yeah, why? Who approved this? Seriously. Let's get to these
Starting point is 00:36:37 kids. Every kid at a certain age has that haircut. Yeah, why did they have this? This shelf-looking ass freaking dead animal on your head Davy Crockett-ass looking hat hair. Why? Why? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why, but okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I thought that went out of style, but nope, it's back. Yep, nope, it's back. Back again. Let's move on to this story. An upcoming Korean Netflix drama explores what happened when your daughter, or happens, when your daughter is turned into a chicken nugget. Mm, okay, all right. The people that brought you Squid Game and other stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:14 That's right. This is nugget game. Nugget game. Netflix really does seem to be greenlighting anything and everything that is proposed to, to its Korean division. No doubt, thanks to the roaring success of many wacky shows that have come from the country
Starting point is 00:37:28 to the streamer. And the latest that might find itself achieving such success is a series called Doc Gengjong. And as for what it's about, it sees a father attempting to turn his daughter
Starting point is 00:37:40 back into a human being after she was turned into a chicken nugget by a strange machine. Fantastic. You and Tina can make a whole night out of this one?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Ben's this bad boy? Maybe not? it's funny like the the the the Korean stuff for the most part in Japanese stuff I've been watching alone it's not that she she doesn't like subtitles because we we finished off the last two Oscar noms and both of them are very heavily subtitled right but um zone of zone of influence or zone of interest oh yeah actually those the last three then yeah because zone of interest past lives and anatomy of a fall All three, mostly, or all subtitled.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Oh, wow. I didn't realize that. I didn't know we had so many in the list. Yeah, we got a bunch. I guess that's, yeah. Well, we're starting to be in the smaller community, this world, you know? That's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:35 We're starting to appreciate stuff from other countries. Totally fun. Yeah. Or some of us aren't. Some of us are a little less tolerant of such things. Whatever. That's right. But, yeah, I'll probably.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Is this a, it doesn't say if it's a movie. It's a series, I believe. show it's a series okay which seems a little drug out you know it does yeah little one note like what's the deal she's a nugget right he's trying to get her back exactly does he have to carry her around does she what sauce does she come with right i would hope it's that what's the mcdonald stuff everyone loves the uh the one shuan the rick and martin the rick and morty seshwan sauce yeah that's all morning morning oh my gosh that's I think I got to catch up on himself behind everything.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Oh, yeah, most recent season was great. Heard nothing but good things about it. I love that they work on. So, yeah, all right, bring it on. I'll watch it. I don't know. We'll see how far I get into it, but I'll watch it. Here's the actual synopsis of the show.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Choi Minya, a daughter of a company president, makes a new machine as a device, which helps her with her fatigue. So she's very fatigued. So be careful out there. If you're struggling with fatigue, you might turn into a chicken nugget. She mistakes a new machine. Oh, mistake. So she thinks she's getting into a little rejuvenator spa thing.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yep. But it turns her into a chicken nugget. Yep, amazing plot. As her father, Choi Sion Mann, an intern, oh, and intern, Go Bech, Jung, who had a crush on her, try to turn her back into a human. They discover unexpected secrets. Brian. She's vegan.
Starting point is 00:40:21 it's so much worse she can't eat meat what are we done right um yeah it seems really dumb good luck to yeah can't wait to watch it but uh yeah it's real dumb final story cyber truck owners say their stainless steel trucks are rusting oh no wow the who knew we knew that they were not in previous to baseballs now apparently water yeah is the other thing is and i know look I know it's tis the season for everyone to just automatically shit on Elon Musk things. But I, like I've driven or ridden in my brother-in-law's model three and I like it. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:41:01 They're really nice. I'm considering a Tesla from my next car, obviously. They're in the running. It's not that that's a problem. I don't really think of that as a problem. But the cyber truck has been from day one, kind of a larp. I think it looks stupid. It has the polygon count of a PlayStation 1 game.
Starting point is 00:41:19 that's right exactly and they've got all kinds of issues with when it wrecks and it not having enough give so when they slam into a wall everybody inside just gets you know they lose their heads because it's just such a shock there's no good shock on it shock absorption like there's some issues with it in the mud where you want a truck to perform well so there's all these other issues and then they then they're saying that the stainless steel which is meant to be stainless meaning permanent and never have to worry about it is starting to corrode and have a lot of resistant yeah exactly so don't by maybe don't get the cyber truck maybe don't get model one or you know the the first one i know we've got a couple listeners somebody in our in our listenership who got the first one or got the
Starting point is 00:41:58 among the first batch oh really yeah maybe wait for version two yeah i'd love to hear from them whoever that is yeah they wrote in at one point and said that uh they don't remember that they were waiting the cyber truck um so they've gotten well they would have had it by now right they've got it by now yeah yeah right in person and follow up i want to hear more I know we have Rivian fans in our community. Oh, yeah, Rivians, sweet. The Rivians are nice, expensive. Amish Overlord.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Also, it rests. Is Amish Overlord the guy? Was that what he said? No, no, but he's the guy who just apparently said it rests after hearing us with the article that we're reading about it resting. Yeah. They mean with this headline where it says they're rusting. Is that the one he means? That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Amish Overlord has a resting ignorphism. is what he has. He's, look, he's, he's busy with all the Amish that he's overloading. Yeah, overloading of the Amish is not an easy task. That's right. Nope, that's true. Well, anyway, Sabertrack owner posted follow-up photos after washing their vehicle down
Starting point is 00:43:00 with soap and they didn't inspire much confidence showing body panels already pockmarked with small orange spots rust beginning on these things. I'd be so annoyed if I bought one. That would annoy the hell out of me. I guess, and Marty D. explains, stainless steel will rust. It just oxidizes. Right. but that should mean you can get it off or no
Starting point is 00:43:20 because I think the idea the idea of call me wrong if I'm wrong but I think Tesla is not selling them under the pretense of so just so you know it doesn't really rust but it oxidizes and it looks like shit and you know what I mean they're telling us that it's stainless steel you'll in fact I swear I've heard them say before
Starting point is 00:43:40 you don't even hardly need to wash the thing and it's a truck you're supposed to take it on the mud and right you're exactly did delorians have uh issues with rusting oh good question those are yeah because those are stainless steel those are stainless steel yeah delorean rust marty you're taking you to the future where there's no rust oh i want to make that my my pen name my ghost rider name is delorean rust you like that oh i like that delorean rust that's not bad okay i'm looking it's funny the very first thing that comes up when I put the DeLorean rust is cyber truck engineer addressing
Starting point is 00:44:14 claims that Tesla's wrote in the rusty thing. It looks like if you leave one of these out for too long, it will corrode. Here's a picture, Brian. I'll give it to you. Okay. Yep, please do. Right under our vacuum flask. Yeah. This is there's an example of
Starting point is 00:44:31 a Delorean that's had a little trouble. Oh, wow. Okay. Marty. Wow. It's not perfect, right? Like, maybe maybe my expectation for what that means is wrong. That's really what That's what it should have looked like When Marty pulled out the
Starting point is 00:44:45 The DeLorean out of the cave In Back to the Future 3 That's what it should have looked like Yeah, it should have That would have been cool Somebody made a Somebody saying that the DeLorean may return The name may return as an electric vehicle
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh really? Somebody who owns the DeLorean name Wow, I just ran into this Will it include cocaine in the both compartment? Yes. That's all I can think of. It's like my, it goes,
Starting point is 00:45:18 Delorian, back to the future. Cocaine. Cocaine. This is basically where it goes. Yeah, what was that guy's name? Some Delorean, but what was his first name? Richard. No.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Shit. Whatever. That guy was, Bubby Deloian. That dude snorted so much cocaine in his time. I saw a document. The guy was a whackadoo. John DeLorean, okay. John DeLorean.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That's a real hard name to remember. It should be an easiest name to remember. Yeah. Speaking of remembering things, we're going to remember to play a song and take a break because when we come back, Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man, will be here. So, Geney, get ready. All right. Brian, you want to explain the song you got lined up?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Sounds like a good one. I will, but, man, go to, go to Dolorian.com and look at the sexy, sexy new vehicle they've got up there. Let's see. Holy cow. it's nice they're making a new one then this is confirmed making a new one this is confirmed that is a new ev delorian right there and it is it is sexy sexy a f whatever reason i it's hanging for me oh here we go delorean dot com e a n right yeah it's taking forever to load or just use that link that i gave you you can do that uh that's the one i used uh let's see oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:46:34 yeah are they really who's doing this delirium yeah but I thought it was all I thought somebody just must own the name because that company went bankrupt did they okay well apparently sold enough cocaine to reopen to flip the clothes sign back to open the DMC 12
Starting point is 00:46:54 ooh oh look at it's got the wing doors just like you should yeah yeah this is sexy 300 300 plus mile look at the range 300 plus miles that's all I need yeah I'm sure this is really cheap I'm sure it'll cost you hardly a thing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Totally cheap. Totally affordable, yeah. This is a great idea from a marketing standpoint, though, to bring this back. Yeah. Okay. It's on my radar now. Thank you for that. All right, let's go to Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:47:24 We're going to Barcelona for this one for a band called Blowfews. We've actually played them before on the show, but we've got a brand new song from them. They've got their new album, which comes out March 1st. A little over two weeks away. You're going to want to stream it. when it comes out, because it's really good. So we'll just, uh, we'll go a little, little more punk, a little more rock punk for you with the band Blowfuse from Barcelona.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Here is the next single from their album, The Fourth Wall. I give you my word. Blowfuse is my favorite Bond villain. I really liked them. Anyway, here's that song. We'll be back in a moment. Stay tuned. I just wasn't made a fall in line or be a run of the bill
Starting point is 00:48:15 But it's not easy to read the find your life wouldn't need it feed and still And even though I'd like to act to do myself for what I am I find a way to sabotage all that I have achieved again I swear to God I'm trying I swear to God I'm not lying I swear to God I'm trying really hard Oh yeah that's for sure trust me I give you my word Another day trying to fix my mind
Starting point is 00:49:01 Applying my philosophy But still not easy to step by We need to tell you how to be Got many promises to deep before I dropped it to the ground No, I am never gonna quit, I promise I won't let you down I swear to God I'm trying I swear to God I'm not lying I swear to God I'm not lying
Starting point is 00:49:34 I swear to God I'm trying really hard Oh yeah that's for sure Trust me I give you my word Another day trying to fix my mind Another day trying to fix my mind It's like I'm getting closer Another day trying to fix my life
Starting point is 00:50:06 Seems like this is not over Another day trying to fix my mind Another day trying to fix my life Another day trying to fix my mind Another day, another day, not another day Not another day Another day trying to fix my mind Another day trying to fix my life
Starting point is 00:50:27 Another day try Another day trying I swear to God I'm trying I swear to God I'm not lying I swear to God I'm trying really hard Oh yeah that's for sure I keep on it on till did my reward Oh yeah that's for sure trust me I give you my word
Starting point is 00:51:03 What a toy From a hidden tank, fill overhead water tower, hook-on car, throw switch, and automatically cars are wet down. But none of us is expected to handle everything. Not even a woman. And we're back. Tell me who that was again. No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to keep flipping switches until you figure out which of me is blown.
Starting point is 00:51:35 On odds, the band Blowfews with a brand new single, I give you my word from their upcoming album, The Fourth Wall, comes out March 1st, beer, beer, beer, big thanks. Beer, beer, beer, beer, beer, big thanks to earshot. I combined the words, big and ear, big thanks to earshot media for letting me know about this. That is awesome. Great new track.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Love it as always. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful. May he cause drowsiness. Hey, I know that voice. It's Dan Dan the Tabletop Man, joining us as he does once a month from his domicile full of board games down there in North Carolina. Hi, dude. How are you doing? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Greetings programs. Yes, way too many board games. My God, I've got to get rid of some of these. Look at these. You're dropping in our thing. I can't wait to start talking about these. Oh, yeah. I got to get that first. Yeah. Scott needs some medical advice first. Actually, yeah, I'll give me ask you this. So, all right, I took ibuprofen this morning. Didn't really do anything. I got this arm thing. Well, tell me what your symptoms were first before you tell me what you took. I think I got repetitive stress arm disorder, according to my doctor.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Basically, it's like a, that's not the name, but I basically have a little bit of a carpal tunnel, but not in the hand. It's up in my shoulder. Okay. And if I lift it too high or do certain movements with it, it's like white hot pain. It sucks so bad. And then there are other times where if I'm kind of a resting place, it's fine. But I have to like sleep with this arm. If it hurts at night, it wakes me up.
Starting point is 00:53:03 right now. If I lift it too high, it makes me want to die. So what does one take? Do you sleep predominantly on one arm? Huh? Say what? Yeah, it's just one arm. My other arm's fine. I mean, do you sleep predominantly on one side? Oh, oh. Predominantly on the other arm, actually. Okay. So it's rare, it's rare this other arm even gets slept on and when it does. There is a comfortable place for it in that sleeping position where I can lay it and it's fine. But if it's off by even an inch, I'm screwed. And it will definitely wake me up. The, um, um, I was I going to try to say lifting doesn't bother me like lifting something up doesn't bother me unless I have to pull back oh like that oh if I do the Y or T pose with my thumb facing behind me and try to hold that oh shit that really hurts so this ibuprofen does jack okay so what kind of hard I need some hard drugs but go ahead tell me tell me everything so not like I don't want to get you into any hard drugs but we're going to kind of take this and more of an over the count way or so what it sounds more like you said this is more prominently in your shoulder you probably haven't had any scans yet or anything no scans just a preliminary doctor poke around you know sort of well this is what we think's going on try this so it sounds more like you've either got um you know sometimes there's like frozen shoulder or things like that but it does sound like more um osteoarthritis is going on more so than anything muscle based great where it's probably bone on bone like when you get osteoarthritis a lot of times you have this in your knee
Starting point is 00:54:31 it's bone-on-bone, where cartilage and such are breaking down, or even in your shoulder, you could even have, like, a little bit of spurs in there. And when you have bone-on-on-bone, insides or your ibuprofen or neprocin and things like that, they're anti-inflammatory and pain relievers. But the thing is, when it's talking about bone-on-bone pain, there's nothing really, there's no inflammation there that's causing the pain. It's just that grinding pain, and that's why you're not going to get as much relief from things like ibuprofen, even though those, that's the drug class of my choice.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You know, I mean, that's what I like to prescribe to people or tell people to take when they have pain. But this pain may be a little bit more responsive to things like Tylenol, where you've got. So you may want to rotate, you know, take ibuprofen in the morning, three to four hours later, take some Tylenol or Cidaminophen. And then a few hours later, go back to the ibuprofen and just rotate those throughout the day. I wouldn't really take them at the same time, but just rotate them so you can get some good coverage. And that's probably going to be your best bet without getting into, like, other, you know, heavier pain. relievers and then just kind of alternate hot and cold on that area a lot of times sometimes they'll tell you to just go heating heat is usually more again they're both kind of good for inflammation
Starting point is 00:55:40 but alternating helps to keep ahead of it to get some of the inflammation down and then sometimes to soften some of the areas but again it's going to be hard because it does sound more like bone on bone uh and so for that to be confirmed they'd have to do like not MRIs but like some kind of scans or something right i mean they could probably just do a simple x-ray to see if uh you know if there is any, maybe even some spurs or if there is just how close the bone is coming to each other, you know, in that area. Because, again, you've got a lot of things going into that other area. It still very well could be, you know, either tendon-based or muscle-based, but just kind of,
Starting point is 00:56:14 and you're probably, the bone could also be kind of interfering with some nerves. And when you get some of that nerve pain, it's that shooting pain. I don't really want you to get into things like nerve blockers or things that are going to help, you know, like things like gabapentin, which are good for neuropathic pain. however highly addictive and you know can kind of really get your faint in your head a little bit wishy-washy but I mean it works very well yeah but again you know that's a slippery slope yeah so my mom's got arthritis but it's all in her knuckles she looks like an alien she got these big old knobby knuckles and she's had she's had that since she was like in her late 20s or something
Starting point is 00:56:49 this is only my that's a little different too yeah it's a whole different kind of arthritis yeah oh that's rheumatoid is that when so when people say rheumatoid they're talking about hands or knuckles? Oh, often, you know, often hands. That's pretty much where you get the rheumatoor arthritis. And that's when, and I'm sorry, I completely like talked over you. I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no, you're good.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm just trying to give you a little bit. So with rheumatoor arthritis, it's more autoimmune, where it's your body kind of attacking itself. And that's when you get some of that growth. And they'll use things like monoclonia antibodies, some of those things you see on TV. Pretty sure like Enbrel and things like that will basically help to get some of that pain and some of inflammation down. It's fascinating. of things they will use for rheumatoid arthritis. When I was in pharmacy school, we invited in about, I think we had 20 or 30 people with rheumatoid arthritis,
Starting point is 00:57:36 and we had different focus groups. It was a pretty cool way to learn what patients are actually going through and how much stuff they used. They used to use things like copper and gold and just amazing amount of crap that you're trying to keep in front of, methotrexate, and some of these other things, hydroxychloroquine, just things to try and keep your body from attacking itself because it basically is an autoimmune thing. And it just, the pain people feel in their hands from when it's, It's basically like gout in your hands, for lack of a better way. I mean, there's more tooth in it, but it's basically kind of what it is, you know, as far as pain goes.
Starting point is 00:58:07 People just, I mean, it just feel so bad when you see. My mom hates it. You said people just go janky hands. Yeah, my mom hates it. She's all, she's kind of all gnarled up, like, claws, and she's really just, she doesn't have any dexterity really anymore. But even back when she did, and it was just the pain, I remember there were days where my mom was just like, you know, in a room on her own, just staying away from ever. almost like migraines. They were in their hands.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It hurt so bad. So I don't know if this is anything to do with that. Probably not. I know it's my prominent arm. It's where I mouse a lot. You know, I was playing on real tournament with these guys and it did make it worse yesterday. But you see it's isolated to your shoulder and not not in your hands itself or elbow or anything.
Starting point is 00:58:47 It's just below just no, not my wrist, but it's just below my, where my tricep and bicep meet, whatever that little zone is. It's kind of in that general area. it's hard to explain it's very non-pinpointy like I can't even push and make it hurt I have to move to make it hurt is that more towards your elbow or more towards your shoulder
Starting point is 00:59:08 more towards the shoulder more it's on the upper arm for sure okay if only I had pulled up the video where I could see where you're pointing right now which I just find it's just something like in here it's like right where that little bicep tricep where they hang out
Starting point is 00:59:24 and have their little date right there that's where you could have actually kind of strained some of those muscles but generally you would you would have some relief from something like gabri prova but depends on how much you've strained or if you could have actually even torn some of those muscles uh sometimes you know there's only so much pain relief as you know medicine's going to do you're going to need to get a little bit of um physical therapy uh you know physical therapy rest uh heat heat cold and then just yeah and you know and it looked just some pain relievers. So it could be a process, especially,
Starting point is 00:59:56 and this is probably not just, you know, it wasn't caused by the Unreal tournament, but it probably might have brought it to the surface. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was something I was festering for a while and it just came to the surface. Yeah, I definitely had issues with this arm,
Starting point is 01:00:11 hand, forearm, and shoulder in the 90s when I was playing a lot of quake in Unreal, like too much. So it was a, I know I was causing issues then because even, you know, at 25, I was like, oh, my arm. So I'm going to die here. And then I haven't had this pain on all that time until just recently, which makes me think it's not a coincidence that me picking up unreal again in a pretty heavy way has some connection to this.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But I could be wrong. I mean, it's all hearsay, no idea. And I don't know. So somebody who I kind of mentioned muscle relaxers in a chat, and I'm not sure that this is going to be a good candidate for that because that's going to be more when your muscles are really tightening up and you get some spasms. Are you getting any sort of spasms in that area? No, although I have. I've had a thing a night once where I was asleep and I maybe had a jolt, like just the kind you get from a dream. And it was just the wrong kind of spasm in my arm just like, it was like explode.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It hurts so bad. I was just like, it does sound more like a little bit of a minor tear or maybe even some, again, some nerve involvement where it could be something is pinching on those nerves. Could be. And then depending on what the muscles do and, you know, if you are going to get into something like a muscle relaxer to try and see if that's going to work, I would go basically. low-dose Tazanidine, which is pretty minor or like a ribaxin, I would stay away from psychobenzaprine or soma, which is a control. I would stay away from some of those, which are going to make you really groggy. Some of those low doses of some of those other ones that the doctor wants you to try out. I mean, that might be okay. But again, I would still work on some of the
Starting point is 01:01:43 PT heat cold and acetaminophen and ibuprofen. And even if you want to get away from ibuprofen, you can use something like a leave, take two a leave with some food. And that's going to last year good 12 hours and then you can take the Tylenol three to four hours later and that might actually be a good regimen to try on what you've got in the house. So, you know, don't go broke trying to go over-the-counter stuff. Well, here's what I'm going to say to all those listening who are like, wow, old man, Johnson with your arm. Tell us more about your ailments as you get older. Look, you're either going to get old like us and hurt or you're going to die early. Which way do you want it? All right? So calm down. I'm making a straw man here. I don't know if anyone's not saying this at all.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I'm completely made up this person that's giving me a hard time for being old. Anyway, well, Dan, thanks, good advice. That's for sure. Here's what I, okay, then I got a piece of advice for you. I was already telling Brian about it, but there's this brand new deck builder just came out today. I don't know if it's been on your radar, but it's called, oh, what's the name? Shit. I already forgot the name.
Starting point is 01:02:40 It's like ribof, balbo, it's Balbo, Raibo, Flavon. Balthorino, some, shit. Balthorro. Balthorro. Baltoro. right i think let me let me turn on my swatch i forgot the name it's first thing it's first thing in my uh my sweatsh right bolotro balotro belotro so this is supposed to be by all a review so far both both fan and websites that have covered it pc gamer did a thing they're all
Starting point is 01:03:12 giving it like highest praise for this sort of game they're like this belongs up there with slay the spire with monster train uh this is like an amazing amazing game. And it's not your typical fantasy card battler. It uses poker mechanics and an amazing art style combined with a whole bunch of other stuff. I don't even know how to describe it. I haven't played it yet. I downloaded it beside unseen because of all this praise it's getting. But it just sounds like something you're going to love. So keep your eye on that. I'll definitely have to check out. I can't stop playing the other. The last one that you recommended to me was that against the storm. My God, I can't stop playing the game. So good. It's not a
Starting point is 01:03:47 Or anything, but it's a city builder. It's a city builder, but it does this thing where, Brian, the best parts of city builders are when, I would argue, are the early bits where you're like, sweet, I've got this building and this street and these houses and I'm set up. It's not always the long con that's the fun part. No, the maintenance and they're like, oh, no, now a natural disaster is wiped out, you know, all the fire station.
Starting point is 01:04:13 That's exactly right. And this game is all about that early stuff and doing it. over and over kind of what's the shit on luck name of that again it's called against the storm it's very good against the quest and kind of doing things and just kind of the when you get finished with one whether you win or lose like you just want to start a whole new city over again and it's just it's just that kind of that you know it takes about an hour to play one round and then you're upgrading and unlocking new stuff it's just excellent what's that uh what's that on uh steam obviously steam and uh i don't know if there's console versions yet
Starting point is 01:04:46 There was talk of that. But it does, and it does, I think it has some controller support, and I figure how it works. But it's very cool. I think it's pretty indie developer, so I'm not sure if it's very wide yet as far as other platforms go. Yeah, it may not be yet. I bring it in here, so I don't forget it. Storm. Against the storm.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Okay. Anyway, it's very good. It might be on Mac. It might be Mac Steam. I'm not sure. Oh. I'm not sure about that, though. Let me, before you get too excited.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Let me just verify here. This is available on. Come on. If I move my keyboard, if I move the screen that my PC uses over this one and just flip, flippity floppity, the problem is that I use this for Discord also. So if I want to do Discord and play on Real Tournament, I have to move the Discord application screen over to this computer. Yeah, nobody wants to do that. I can do that.
Starting point is 01:05:40 That's really easy, actually. That's really not difficult at all. I mean, average 95% review score, it's like killing it. That's pretty good. All right. It's very, very good. Highly recommend it. Dan,
Starting point is 01:05:51 speaking of recommended games, I see a couple of images on our Discord. What do you got going here? Well, a lot of people... Scott games right here, both of these.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So a lot of people always, you know, because Scott famously a big fan of a certain movie. Yeah. Yeah, you don't say.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Killer clowns from outer space. Love it. That's right. Yeah. So we get a lot of recommendations. You know, and we kind of talked about this game when it was first from
Starting point is 01:06:16 Restoration Games that was first. It's a remake of an older game from the 80s, and this is Thunder Road Vendetta, which was a game. It's come out, or it came out last year as far as the Kickstarter came out, and it's delivered, and it's a really fun game. But now they've got a Kickstarter that should be out. I believe it's next week. I put an early page for you in the chat.
Starting point is 01:06:35 This is Thunder Road Vendetta Carnival of Chaos. Now, the reason why I bring this up is because they're leaning heavily into that Mad Max beyond the Thunderdome. It's kind of like the Beyond the Thunderdome expansion is what, because we have a, Yeah, Justin on a show, who's the head of Restoration Games. He was on a show last time in there, by the. Yeah, I like the The Thunderdome, yeah. Because there really only was the one, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That probably works. Oh, look at these little figurines and shit in this game. The little cars. Really? What? I don't know. Sorry. Yeah, just, yeah, just so please continue.
Starting point is 01:07:06 So he was talking about how this expansion will have kind of like a circular board, and you'll be coming in from the different sides of the board, kind of like a, you know, a Thunderdome. And then you're going to be going to be going to, trying to basically attack each car and do damage to each car, but you're trying to score to the most points. And once a car gets knocked out, that kind of triggers endgame. So you're kind of are also going to be kind of protecting other cars because you may want to get some more points before the end game comes. So it's kind of like the little bit. There's going to be some more
Starting point is 01:07:35 things for the base game as well with some more upgrades and some more cars and some more things like that. You will need the base game to get into this. There's a little bit of a, let me get you a little bit a preview here in the chat as well because towards the end they did a review of the base game but they've also got a couple of pictures of kind of what the next one's going to be so yeah looks really good oh that's cool yeah look at it's such a fun game to play and it's it's so easy to pick up uh you know and learn to learn the game itself uh and to play uh but of course you can do all sorts of things with these cars with modding them and people have done some amazing things with uh with with their cars as well yeah they're beautiful
Starting point is 01:08:15 beautiful little figures. I mean, I'd say figures and little cars and a helicopter thing. Let me ask you this question. Is this the actual, the thing that the old game from that 70s, 80s, is this the actual name of that? Was that called something else? I'm pretty sure it was called Thunder Road. Maybe, I think it was called Thunder Road. That's why they probably made it, Thunder Road Vandetta. Okay. I'd have to look at DG and see if that's, that's interesting. If they got the original info, because there's, something about this art style that is very reminiscent of that era of games.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Are you thinking of Car Wars? Hobbs Dogg says Car Wars and I remember. Well, there is Car Wars. There is, it is Thunder Wars. I'll throw it on. Okay. It is Thunder Rock because I'll throw it in the chat for you. That's the original one.
Starting point is 01:09:00 So what Restoration Games does, like their whole model is basically taking these older games and reimagining them and bringing them back. That's who did return to Dark Tower. And they've done a lot of games for that. Oh, really? God. I loved play. I played that.
Starting point is 01:09:15 in North Carolina at the meetup and immediately said I need to get a copy of this and I completely like forgot well I like no there's other things I need to spend my money on before I do that but my God I still want to get a copy of Return at Art Tower It is so so good and they've got a bunch of
Starting point is 01:09:31 of expansions for it and they're also the ones that did unmatched which is also kind of the newer version of kind of an older fighting game I don't know if it was Pogs or something it was basically a reimagining of an older game in a unmatched series is just amazing as well.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Key to the Kingdom they did, which was, I can't remember what it was. Key to something is what the older game was, but Key of the Kingdom is another very light game they put out a few years ago. So it's just, they do a really good job of bringing. Oh, and they also did Fireball Island. Do you remember Fireball Island?
Starting point is 01:10:01 Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. I remember that. Fireball Island had, didn't that have like a mechanical aspect to it? Spinning thing in the middle of it, right? Oh. So they had basically, it would be like almost like a marble that would kind of go down the island,
Starting point is 01:10:14 And it would just knock people's piece off. So the new one was called Fireball Island, The Curse of a Volkar. And it's obviously a lot more game out there, the link in the chat as well, a lot more game-ier kind of player, but more fun. Again, think of the games that came out in the 80s
Starting point is 01:10:30 and we were kids. I mean, even some of the more advanced games were not really great. So they, you know, the role and move, very little decision-making. They kind of bring the games, you know, it's been 30, whatever years since a lot of these games came out.
Starting point is 01:10:42 So they make them more, hobby gamer like clean up the rules, make them more fun to play. They do just an amazing job. I mean, the amount of work they put into that Dark Tower game is phenomenal. I mean, you said, Brian, you played it. It's just ridiculous
Starting point is 01:10:58 how good it is. That looks great, dude. Super, super into it. All right, well, good. These are things to keep on my radar, especially as it, Vendetta. No, sorry, Carnival of Chaos. Vendetta was the first one. It's the new one. Yeah. And that one is not.
Starting point is 01:11:13 You've been dead, A Carnival of Chaos. I believe it's the 27th or 24th or something like that. It'll be, so it's probably early next week. A lot of times they launch on Tuesdays, so it will probably be the 27th when it comes out. Yeah, you can bookmark it now. Just go look for Carnival of Chaos on Kickstarter, and you can bookmark it and get notified when it launches. And it looks awesome. And it's all up my alley, of course.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And it fits with that cool DeLorean I put in our Discord earlier. Anyway, Dan, it's always good hanging out with you, man. You've probably got other cool stuff going on on your show and other things. tell people what they can get and where. So you can find me at Geek Jock Dan on Twitter and on the Geek All-Stars podcast. Next week we're doing our Game of the Year. It's kind of one of these things
Starting point is 01:11:52 I thought we were going to do it about a month ago, but we're doing it next week we're recording our game of the year. We're going to talk about the top 11 games. What we do is when we have what we call the All-Stars on a show, like the different publishers or designers and such on a show, I get them to send me their top 11 for each year, and then I compile it with ours and theirs, and then we get the Geek All-Stars game of the year.
Starting point is 01:12:11 So we do the top 11 show of that because, as they always say, everything is better and it goes to 11. So we're going to do the top 11 next week. I've heard that before. I guess it's now true. It's true now that what you're saying. Here's the website, everybody. Thegeekallstars.com, correct? That's where you want to go.
Starting point is 01:12:29 There you go. Go check it out. Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man, have a fantastic week. And may your arm never hurt like this. Bye now. All right. Oh. It hurts.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I don't like it. Although right now, does this position I'm in? Perfect, no problem. Doesn't hurt at all. But the minute I go, like if you, if someone's, Brian, if you said to me, Hey, Scott, where do you keep your collection of stormtroopers? I'd have to go, oh, they're right. And if I did this, like, you couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You couldn't tell, you couldn't gesture to show me where your stormtroopers are kept. It's the whole thumb behind. What is that? That makes no sense. I'm not doing this all day. You know, you may have to take a couple week break from Unreal Tournament, let yourself heal up. You're not wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:11 You drop down on the leaderboard there. I figured out what happened too, because for so many years, I stopped using mouse and keyboard and controller on shooters. That doesn't bother me at all. And when I go back, it's just like all this flares up again. Yeah, because there's a tension that you have to do that you don't do with the controller. You can kind of change your controller position real easily, but the keyboard has to be on the desk, has to be in the same place.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Right. And if you're playing high-intensity stuff like UT-99, Yeah. I'm, I'm sure I'm rigid as hell while I'm doing that. I'm sure. I'll tense up and that's, yeah, that's what, that's what screws it for you. Sounds bad to say how rigid I am, doesn't it? I'm rigid. Turgid. Played my games makes me turgid. Turgid. Turgid. Turgid. Turgid.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Turgid. Turgid. Turgid. I don't know why I feel like I'm going to say that like Zepranigid, but turgid. All right. That's going to do it for today's show. Big thanks, everybody for watching, hanging out with us, and being here. here on a Tuesday. Of course, we'll be back tomorrow with a regular bunch of business and dental apocalypse tomorrow. So looking forward to that. You can find links to everything we're talking about at frogpants.com slash TMS. A reminder that our tickets are up for TMS Vegas, which is VivaTMSVagas.com. You'll find a link there to the store. But however you get there,
Starting point is 01:14:30 get there and get your tickets procured, a bunch of you already made a run, which means, it's not that we're going to run out, but, you know, I wouldn't wait. don't wait too long yeah we're not gonna right so get on there uh frogpans dot com slash store we'll just it'll be the first thing it comes up so if you are interested grab your tickets today get your swag bag reserved uh i got more questions yesterday saying when the swag only is i can't come but i would love a swag bag this year that's coming we just have to this has to prove out so we know how many we're doing we have to know how many of a thing to produce right for the swag bag and so that's why tickets need to go first it's a pain in the arse but it's how it works um yeah um
Starting point is 01:15:07 All right. That is going to do it for us, Brian. Anything else? And if not, do you have a song you'd like to play? Well, go get your hotel room, too. If you have not done so, go to Viva TMS Vegas, scroll down, go to the hotel information and reserve your room if you haven't done so already. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Use that code. Let's take advantage of it. Because I think that might only be, there might only be a month left or maybe not even that long for that. I'll have to see what the time frame is for people to get the room. So get your rooms, folks. All right. Let's get to a request. This is going out to Amanda. Oh, she's the one to call today. We got double Amanda today. Oh, if it's the same one.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Might be. This one right here. Hi, this is Amanda. Is that her? She didn't mention Brandon, but I'm doing their portmanteau name, Branda. Anyway, good morning, satin and blue yesterday afternoon. My boyfriend became my fiancé. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Typing the word fiancee is so cool and new and amazing. We can't wait to get married next year. Yes, I already have a date picked out. I'd love a cover of Taylor Swift's invisible string. My now fiancé, still weird, ha-ha, introduced me to the wonderfulness of TMS, and I am now a patron of TMS, Frogpans, and Coverville. Thank you both for being you and for sharing your lives with us. Sincerely, Amanda and Brandon, parentheses, A and B.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Oh, A and B. That could be your own little couples podcast, A&B show. A&B and B. Congratulations, you too. That's awesome. And, yeah, Invisible Stream. This is one of the newer songs that Taylor released on her, what was it? I'm going to call it Midnights.
Starting point is 01:16:47 It's before Midnights. It's the one that had the sweater thing. Yeah. It's something like that. Anyway. Whatever that is. It's an album I really liked, and I'm kind of into it now. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:00 It was so weird. This is the Moon Loungeers, a very cool acoustic cover of Inverbalt. of Invisible String. They just released this a couple of years ago, 2021 on a self-titled single. Here is Invisible String by the Moon Loungers. Oh, that's fantastic. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Please be here for another TMS. We'll see you then. Green was the color of the grass where I used to read. to Centennial Park I used to think that I would meet somebody there Teal was the color of your shirt when you were 16 at the yogurt shop You used to work at to make a little money
Starting point is 01:17:54 Time curious Can me no compasses, give me no signs Were there clues I didn't see and isn't it just so pretty to think all along there was some invisible string tying you to me that was the blood of the song that was the blood of the song
Starting point is 01:18:35 in the cab on your first trip to LA You wait at my favorite spot for dinner Paul was the waitress on a three-year trip Getting lunched down by the lakes She said I looked like an American singer Time, mystical time cutting me open He'll me find Where there are clues I didn't see
Starting point is 01:19:05 and isn't it just so pretty to think all along there was some invisible string tying you to me a string that pulled me a string that pulled me out of all. the wrong arms right into that dive bar Something wrapped all of my past mystics and barbed Chains around my demons Water breathe the seasons
Starting point is 01:19:52 One single thread I've gone Tell me to you Coal was the steel of my axe to grind for the girls who broke my heart. Now I send their baby's presents. Gold was the color of the leaves when I showed you around Centennial Park. Hell was the journey, but it brought me heaven. Time, wondrous time came a lot. Give me the blues down the purple peg skies
Starting point is 01:20:37 And it's cool, baby with me Isn't it just so pretty to think? All along there was some invisible string tying you to me Oh, me. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Yeah, good morning, guys. This is Chuck D-63 in Discord, Chuck Byers. calling for TMS from, I was just listening yesterday, you mentioned the Morse Code or Morris Code for the Toronto Airport YYZ concerning the rush history, I guess, and he said you thought Neil didn't fly. Well, I don't believe he had an aversion to flying like John Madden did. And I had to do some research. I was looking it up, and there's a quote that he said he didn't start riding his motorcycle until his 40s. And the YYZ came out on moving pictures in 1981, which would have made him just under 30 years old. So I believe they were probably flying then.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And then, of course, he discovered his motorcycle. He's written a number of books about a motorcycle. his motorcycle touring, namely the one called Ghost Rider that chronicles his morning time after losing his wife and daughter tragically in the late 90s. So, yeah, I'm probably one of the bigger rush fans you'll ever encounter. I've seen them eight tours, nine different times, between 1979 and 1997. So one of my favorite bands I had to say something about that Y Y YZ Amazing song
Starting point is 01:23:03 They have a live album That has a tremendous Neal drum solo Within that song Exit Stage Left is the name of the album So I recommend that So anyway I'm going to go back to listen into that
Starting point is 01:23:22 At your episode from yesterday but I had to pause it and give you a call. Okay. See you guys. Hi. This is Nick. I wanted to write and let you know that I actually had a dream last night that included Scott and Tim. Essentially, Scott, you and Tim had opened your house as an Airbnb, and my wife and our two young kids decided to travel to stay with you guys in Utah.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Though not completely clear, I'm pretty sure when we arrived, you had only two bedrooms, and we, and you were also watching another young baby, who I assume is your adorable granddaughter. Anyways, the most realistic part of the dream was that my kids were extremely loud the entire night, and we stayed up the whole night and woke you and Kim up the whole time as well as your granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Though I've only grown to believe that Kim is probably the nicest person on the face of the planet through all the shows I've heard her on and everything, Scott, you said about her. She did want to kick us out in the dream, into the cold weather in the middle of a snowstorm, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Anyways, thanks for the great shows. And Merry Christmas. Your filthy animals. And, yeah, thanks so much. This is Nick from Massachusetts. It's the safest place to drive during the holidays. Bye. Hello, squirt and blood.
Starting point is 01:24:51 This is Joe Uncool from the Tadpool and all the socials. First, I want to give a quick shout out to the real quick Chris Brown. I met him several months ago, and he is a very nice, very cool dude. But anyway, the reason why I'm calling is a few episodes ago you were talking about giving blood, having blood drawn for blood tests. And my experience in that is when I was a young kid, a long, long time ago, So I used to have an issue with passing out after giving blood. And I remember back when I was about nine or ten years ago, I went to the lab to give blood. And way back all those years ago, you didn't do it in a separate room.
Starting point is 01:25:38 The room they had a long bench with three tables in front of it, and they could take blood from three different people at a time in this situation. So back when I was 9 or 10 years old, I went in and they took blood from me, and they knew I had a history of passing out, not while they were taking the blood, but after they were done, then I could get up and pass out. So they told me to sit down and wait for a while before I get up. Also back then, it was pretty common that for your labs, along with drawing blood, they would take a urine sample. So they took my blood, had me sit for a while, and then they were asking me, are you all right? And it's like, yep, I think I'm good. And they said, all right, now it's time for you to go pee in the cup.
Starting point is 01:26:30 They had a cross on the other side of the room, they had several little bathrooms where you would go into and give your sample. And so I got up to go in the bathroom over there, and my mom asked me if I was okay and if I needed her to come with me just in case. And I said, yeah, that's fine. You can come in with me. So she went in the bathroom with me, and I remember unzipping my pants, getting ready to give the sample, and the next thing I know, I'm laying on the floor, waking up to this nurse, hitting me with some smelling salt. And it was at that time, too, I realized because the bathrooms were so small, my mom had to open the door and lay me down outside where everybody else was. And when I woke up, the very first thing I realized was, yeah, my business was hanging out for all the world to see. So, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:27:28 There's my doodle hanging out story. Devotion for the spectacle nonetheless. Bye. Get more at frogpants.com. He's been asphyxiated.

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