The Morning Stream - TMS 2605: David Lyncher

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Riding With Pirates For Their Scent. Lyfting mom for the cruise. You Get NO Skarsgard, NO Batista & NO Lt Yar! Dancing with Beavers in Ibiza. Cornish Nipple Pasties. Guardians of Terror. Needle of Shit at Your Neck. A gigantic red shirt. Day Drinking With Dunaway. Wake me up, when September plays. Gaston is the Best Ride. Identity theft with Scott. Don't take your girlfriends to Shone's. I Just Want a Damn Churro! Endgame for Shapes with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Dirtbox fingers, warpforged, and Mingus Man! Coming up on TMS, riding with pirates for their scent. Lifting mom for the cruise. You'll get no Scarsguard, no Batista, and no Lieutenant Yard! Dancing with beavers and Ibiza, Cornish nipple pasties. Guardians of Terror. Needle of shit at your neck. A gigantic red shirt

Day drinking with Dunaway Wake me up when September plays Gaston is the best ride Identity theft with Scott Don't take your girlfriends to Shonies I just want a damn churro End Game for Shapes with Bobby and more on this episode of the Morning Stream

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Good. Real good. Well, well, well, what do we have here? Brand new episode of the morning stream. Welcome, everybody. It's Monday, February 26th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibbitt. Hello, well, well, well, well, you may ask yourselves why you are here.

Oh, I still have the pre-show graphic up. Sorry, everybody. It's off now. Oh, there we go. I did that for like 12 minutes on core or just ran with that stupid graphic. Really? Yeah, I got to come up with a better way to notice. It's annoying.

Anyway, we're here. It's me and Brian. We got stuff. We got a show. Yeah, yeah. Can't have a whole long weekend. It's June week. do we oh shit that's right i got tickets for friday

nice i haven't been to a movie theater since um oh gosh spiderverse right spiderverse i think that's it yeah yeah so it's been a bit of time and uh i'll be going with my buddy darren and kim and his wife ruthanne and uh we're going to have dinner uh after or before i don't know and his wife i got all that that's not the right order at all is it no um but i'm so excited and Kim's like we got to pick a night this week to watch watch the first one again just to get all you know hyped and i said okay when do you want to when do you have three and a half hours honey exactly yeah so we might do uh i don't know tonight or tomorrow night or something i don't do it a two part or dune part one part one part one part two that's right doom part one point

oh one point five part a subsection a yeah that's how you have to have all these huge movies there's no other way. Alamo Draft House released their video of the previously on Dune which is like your 12 minute recap of not just the first movie, but everything from the first movie

as was also done in the 1984 Dino Dino Dillarenta no was it, yeah it was Dean D'Leranthus right? He was the producer but the director was your David Finch. Oh David Lynch of course it was

Yes. And then your 2000 TV adaptation with William Hurt. Oh, I forgot that existed. Yeah, I did too. That was the one where they did the kids books, right? The Sun's books or something? Wasn't that the deal? Oh, I don't know.

I thought that was, I thought they didn't tackle the original Herbert books and they went straight to Herbert Jr. Definitely did tackle the Herbert books because you get scenes, like basically you get the same scene of stick your hand in the box. Now keep it in there. I've got a needle of shit on your neck and I'm going to stick it in your neck if you move and you pull it out. Yeah, that seems hard to not recognize for what it is. That's for sure. Yep. So, anyway, I put that in the FilmSack channel in the Discord if you want to watch it.

It's a great... Oh, I was just going to ask. I can get that online then. I don't have to go to Alamo Draft House to see it. Yeah, exactly. All right. That's good. That's a great idea, actually.

Maybe we'll do that instead. Yeah. Might be a little more educational, too. And it actually does break things down with like all of the, you know, here's, here's Iraqis and here's the Harkinans and here's Paul's journey and here's, you know. Here's the political flavor of the thing. Yeah, here's the spice and why it must flow and that kind of thing. Right, exactly.

Sweet. And here's Sting versus the kid who played Elvis. Right, exactly. I'm excited about the Elvis kid because he looks wicked in these trailers. Does he? Okay. Oh, my gosh. Have you not seen a trailer?

You've avoided that. I've seen the trailer and I didn't pick him out. He's the wiry little Harkonen dude with the bald head and the white skin and the knife. That's that character. Bald head, white skin, knife. All harconin. Well, let's say he's not. But wiery dude, definitely unique among the, you know, the Batistas and the Scarsguards and all of that.

I'll say it that way. He's not a Scarsguard, not a Batista. That's how you'll know, since they don't really show anybody. I wish how I'll recognize. And since Dasmal Chain took a dive in the first movie, spoiler. Anyway, I cannot wait. I'm so excited. I can barely stand it.

Yeah. I'm seeing the Thursday night, and so I won't spoil anything Friday morning for you. You can give me a thumbs up or down that morning. I'll give you thumbs up or down. How's that? I'll bet it's up. I have to take my mom to the airport on Friday, and I'm hoping, because I agreed to it months ago and forgot what time I need to take her. I'm hoping it doesn't interfere with couch party.

Where does she, where's mom going? Mom is going on a cruise because she likes to go on cruises. Okay. Hey, look, if she likes it, she should go, you know? Exactly. So she's going to be departing from Nalans. So she's flying to Nalans, going to have an evening there with her friends, and then get on a cruise ship. And then, what, Caribbean, Mexico, where do you go when you get on that one?

I can't remember. I can't remember where this one is. Since it departs in the Gulf, I'm going to guess Mexico, like Cabo or something. Yeah, I think she's been to, she's been to all the Mexican destinations that she wants to go to. It's an island, I think. Maybe it's Abiza, and she can dance with the beavers and the what-nots while she's there. Yeah, and the what-nots, sure. Hey, what's your mom's maiden name?

I've never asked. What's her name? I'm not telling you, that's my, it's all, you know, you're going to reset my passwords. Oh, shit. I didn't think of that. I just, that was my, this has been the long con fishing attempt I was going to make. I know, you finally, you finally broke. We did, we do a show for 12 plus years.

Finally, I got to the day where I felt like comfortable to finally ask the question to get that name. Brian, what was your first pet? I'll start out. Who was your third grade teacher? What was her name? Yeah. That's really funny. Because I mean, I know you weren't, I obviously know you weren't trying to do that.

No. But we can't, we can't fish for 25, 30,000 other people. You know, we don't want to do that on the air. We don't, we're not doing it everybody. Brian is right. Should never, not that his, not that Brian's using her name as passwords everywhere, but they might be hints on some websites. No, I definitely don't use it as, I don't use it as prompts either.

And pretty much everywhere I have, uh, two-factor authentication anyway. So it really, it really doesn't matter. But, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it'll be really. easy for you to figure out if once you meet my uncle George in Vegas because which I think it'll be my second

brother. Second time right I think. Yes, you met him at the Palm in Caesar's Palace. Way back in 2011, I think. Yeah. The year we started the show we met there. That's right. Was it really?

Crazy. Geez. I remember you wore a gigantic red shirt and I don't mean it was like I don't mean you were like big in it It's not what I mean Exactly It was just a It was a really loose fitting long

Like the neck hole was like kind of stretched out It looked like you just run a race or something in that thing It's a well I did because You know we were one hotel away Before I had to meet you at Caesar's Palace And so Getting from the inside of one hotel out to the strip And then into the strip

Through Caesar's Palace Because to get to the palm, you have to go all the way through Caesar's Palace to the forearm shops to get to the palm. And so I think that was it. Yeah, it was my button up. Oh, I love that shirt. I don't think I have it anymore. It was a button up red with like Hawaiian, a very, very faint, dark red Hawaiian pattern on a medium red shirt.

It's a little weird to remember that, isn't it, though? That was Golden Boy for a while. You remember how Seinfeld had Golden Boy, like the first shirt he would wear out of the dryer? Yeah. That red shirt, that red button up was Golden Boy for a while. That was your go-to. I don't know if I have one of those. Oh, I do have one of that.

She was listening right now. She's like, yep, I threw that one away because it looked like it had gotten a little worn and the neck and blah, blah, blah. All right, well, at least you got your use out of it. That's fine. I did. I did. I made good use of it.

Like you said, it was always the first shirt out of the dryer that I'd put on. Very nice. Reminder to folks at home, speaking to Las Vegas, we have an event coming up called TMS, Vegas, or some may call it Viva TMS Vegas. And if you go to VATTMSVegas.com right now, there's a link to this year's tickets. If you want in, I am happy to report that we're selling them pretty quickly. And that means we're not going to have them forever.

So if you have been on the fence or you're like, oh, shoot, I need to finally get over there and do that. I would do it soon because we're getting to our cap. And it won't be that long. So go to VivaTMSVagas.com. Look for the store link or the ticket link. And it will take you there. They're at the bottom of the page right under the schedule of all of the fun freaking events that we're going to be doing the whole week.

Yep. Not just the official events, but a lot of tadpoolers have meetups and fun things they want to do, usually centered around food, usually centered around dim sum or octale oxtail soup. Oh, God, that oxdale soup. I think I got to do that this year. I missed it last year. I didn't do it, but this year. I have a couple years ago, maybe 20, whenever we, 2021, 2. we came back? Was it 2020? We came back?

Whatever it was. I think that was the year I had it. And I also had those amazing what were those called? The pasty things. Oh, yeah. Well, pasties. Yeah. Those were in... The Cornish pasties, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Now, it may have been a gummy giving me the hungries. I don't know. But I devoured those things. Just...

Yeah. Oh, it was... So good. If you had one, then it probably wasn't a gummy. If you had more than one that it was probably gummy and flu. getting two pasties or more because I had a one point I had one point five one point five oh there you okay there you go that's good

Kim only could eat half her hers so I was like happy to oblige and eat that thing yeah uh well uh get over there get them get your tickets seriously you're not gonna last forever for real exactly and if you're like oh I don't know man because you know it's the ticket but then I've also got to get hotel folks the hotel it's like you're looking at motel six prices right it's like 50 something bucks a night plus your

resort fee, blah, blah, blah. Vegas, welcome to, you know, 20, 23 or 24, whatever year it is. But it's, you know, 50-some bucks per night for a hotel for all this fun and excitement and fun and a dimension fun. And you can't get a better deal than that, hotel-wise. No, name a better way. The answer is that you can't, okay? You can't do it.

We got a very sad text from a listener that has had to read. no Brian I know this is this is going to be a sad one you ready for this all right I'm bracing myself right now for it for whatever reason on the show shones comes up a lot and uh so I don't know why like you does Spanish for it it's Spanish for next to shonis exactly and we always talk about all the bacon and done always got some story about how that's all he ever ate down there and this sort of thing yeah somebody wrote this simple thing in it's an anonymous listener all they wrote was hottest chick I ever dated broke up with me at a shonies that's the whole thing they didn't say anything else they didn't ask for reply they didn't ask for anything they just sadly

stated this fact and I feel bad for this person that the hottest chick they ever dated do people ever say do we still say hot chicks do we still say it I don't know I think you do with this sort of thing right because you know it's a shonies you don't say hottest lady I ever dated

you're keeping it brief for the text you know it's like how do I quickly type this message Scott hottest chick every day broke up with me to showdies that's right yeah send and I feel like sad face emoji I know I know we're not paying per character anymore but we used to so we're just we're feeling economic about our letters and uh that's fine chick is fine anyway that's sad but not this next thing this next thing is more calling I think they're calling you to task but it's really the show

in general oh yeah no let's bring it bring it on Bring it on. Here it is. It's about points and tadpully feud of which we have one today. It's our old pal, Jesse. Check this out. Hello, butt and scrote. This is Moro Prime, aka the Garbage Man, aka Jerky Jesse.

Normally when I'm listening to Tad Pooley Feud, I am right along the mighty Mississippi Riverbanks in a small area called Cowtown out here in Minnesota. And the next time I hear thing and no points. I'm going to drive straight into the river with my garbage truck, windows down, mouth wide open. Love the show, though. Have a good day. Okay, yeah, I got called the task on this last week or a week before last two, is not doing enough score representation for our audio-only listeners. Like, I got to keep, I got to make sure to keep telling you guys the score because, yeah, there's listeners out there who don't have the advantage of watching this video.

Oh, yeah, by a vast majority. Exactly. You guys are just a tiny little tip of the listener iceberg, the tadpool iceberg. Yeah, I'm not even sure the live people are even one full percent of who will hear it all. But you got to understand, while we're in the thick of this and we're doing some things visually, you get in the mindset of, oh, people are seeing this. So here it is, they see it. I don't have to explain it further. We will try to be better about that.

In general, not just the score thing, but like, here's a pitcher we found all. on a news story. I should be better at saying, hey, for those at home, this is a guy with a, you know, a booger hanging out of his face or whatever. I'll try and get a score update a little more frequently than Little Alex Horn. Well, today I'll be like

like that because we have a feud today and you're going to be tested, Brian. A rare Monday feud. Why? Well, Brian had a brain fart this morning and forgot what effing day of the week. it was i love that you thought it was wednesday i don't know why i love that i just do yeah i think you can't uh you know it doesn't count as drinking all day if you don't start in the morning

that's right uh well then uh we may as well get to it let's get a done away we'll take whatever one we get doesn't matter which done away or brian whichever one we we can get fey brian or there's a third one uh is there a third done away isn't there another done away hey dunnaway isn't there another done away somewhere yeah give us another famous done away do you know any Oh, oh, hi. I, Scott and Brian, another famous Dunaway would be my dad. Oh, really?

All right, your dad. I don't know of any other. Tell us how we'd know your dad in a famous way, other than you, I guess. He's known for being a contributor to my life. There you go. Famous dad. That's nice.

I like that. Dads are good. Brian Dunaway's dad also very much into retro, but only because it's the technology. He understands and not because he does it because he likes the nostalgia of it. You say that, but he is in the retro, and he's, uh, he's been, he's been wanting to play some unreal tournament with us. And he's actually playing on a day Z server right now with some is a gamer.

He's a big gamer. Yeah. Hey, Z. Oh my gosh. I forgot Daisy existed. That's fantastic. Yeah. Well, listen, uh, what's good to have you here.

We're going to play a game and, uh, we're going to pull in a listener to be a part of this. Oh, no. Pull them in like, uh, like, uh, like you're going to have like a red balloon. tied to like, yeah, like a sewer grate. Yeah. Hey, come here, buddy. Yeah. We all float here.

We all float down here. Oh, look, who it is. While she's coming in, let's remember not to bring up mobile games or say anything anti-Spiderman. Oh, I've been playing Monopoly Go. Oh, good. You want to make sure to, she's not here yet, so you're okay. Oh, there she's tied. You know what I really liked was that Spider-Man Endless Running Game on my.

On your phone? Oh, you're worthy. Her worlds are colliding. What are we going to do? Hey, it's Stephanie Inipetz, who joins us for the, I think, for the first time for feud. I think so, yeah. She's muted, too, by the way, Stephanie, on mute. Yeah, you're muted.

Your microphone is muted, which I don't blame you, you know? I mean... Love me some, Steph. Most of the time, you know, muting's a smart way to not have people hear you, but today we need to hear you, and it's muted still. Mute me. In the meantime, I will say, take him. Heed, winning is Precian.

Optional. Because it's THWIP. We always do a thwep thing back and forth when we see each other in chat. She says, not working. Oh, it's not working. Oh, no, that's not good. I really was hoping to hear from her.

Can you not find, I mean, are you not finding the unmute button? We can't right click and unmute her, right on this. No, she's not muted on my end. I can mute her and see if that does anything. Nope, same deal. listed as muted or is it just an audio input problem? No, she's showing as muted.

There's a little red microphone. Like if I mute myself, you'll see that same thing. See that? That red thing? That red thing right there? And thank you for actually going through the possible to mute me. Yeah. Thank you. I didn't know that's what happened. So what's going on is either her phone or a computer has that button

depressed and she currently is not able to undepress it. Well, that's my depressed button. My button's depressed. He goes to therapy three times a week. Hey, speaking of your dad real quick while we see if we can suss this out. He's about to become a great granddad. Yeah, not the first time, however, but yes, he is about to cross that.

However, he has become the latest convert to 3D printing. I gave him a 3D printer. I'm waiting on the phone calls now. It's going to be great. Yeah, that'll be awesome. All right. Well, Stephanie, we'll try this again next time. I apologize.

I mean, I don't know what else to do. I can't get her to, I can't get the, I can't force the. unmute, unfortunately. I don't know how to do it. So we'll try you again. Don't worry. You'll be coming up again. Let's get our next fourth person. Oh, look who it is. Hold on. If I can spell it.

There we go. Score right now. Zero, zero. Yeah. Let's keep a track on the food. Zero. Oh, we have nine of twelve coming in. Nine of twelve. All right. More great community members. There we go. We got September. We got September. Hi, September. How are you?

I'm all right. How are you this morning? We're good. You're in like Flynn. This is fantastic. Welcome to the show. I'm going to make my iPad. Stop. Oh, I hate that. Multiple device. Discord calls. I hate that crap. Every mobile device that's got Discord on. I'm answering it already. So I am sci-fi new to the program. He says, did they just start doing feud on Monday last week? No. Today is a one-off mistake. Brian did it by accident. We explained it earlier. I am sci-fi. It's all on you, man. We've been doing this for months. Where have you been? Exactly. I think he showed up late. Oh, we lost September. What happened there?

She probably hung up the iPad and hung up the call. All right. You there? Okay, cool. There we go. She's back. All right. Let's get this show underway. Brian, will you explain the rules, please, and what happens here? It's time to play half. Oh, that tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy top and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Amber, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.

If your team wins, you get a prize package, that includes 12 is better than 16 and torchlight the first one. Oh, that's a good one. I love the first and the second one. Third one's terrible, but one and two are great. Yeah, the third was not great, but I think I actually prefer the first one. I like the second one It's hard to say Is it titled the first one?

No, I think it's just the way it's labeled here in our list So they didn't have a number on the first one Because they didn't think there was going to be a sequel Right, it's like they didn't nobody called World War I Indeed, world war one during the war I just thought maybe a remaster you could totally do that Oh, yeah Didn't they call it the greatest war before they called it

World War? Yeah Or the War the Great War And they also called it the War to end all war which would not be correct at all. That's the one. That's a little too lofty. They were wrong.

They were some optimistic people back then. They were like, this will be it. And I'm like, no, we got a bigger one coming right up. And guess what? The Germans are there again. It's a game with the Germans. Let's just get this one over with this war. We won't have any more, all right?

We can make it. Yeah. Anyway, well, that's great. I like the stakes here for this game. Yeah, it should be fun. Well, let's see if, let's, oh, yeah, thanks. Let's see if Ember can pull this one out. But first, we need you. you guys to decide who's going to be playing with September.

And put your hands on your buzzers. Give me your answer to this. We asked, I can't remember how many tadpullers really screwed up this morning. 480. It is right around there. Yeah, that is what it seems to be right around there. We ask them, what is your favorite ride in a Disney park? Go on.

Scott Johnson. Space Mountain. Show me Space Mountain. That is the number one. answer and come it. The score is 1-0-0-0. I was going to say mini-mouths.

All right, September, what's your what's your go-to? A lot of people said that, Brian, by the way. Did they really? They put that in there? Oh, the tadpool had some real fun with this one. Dirty, dirty, dirty boys.

My favorite one was, wait on home, Disney Lane in Australia. We don't care about that shit. Wait, there's no down under Disney? Nope. Yeah, you're missing out. That was a great movie. The rest of the down under?

Yeah, the whole theme. That was good. Exactly, Disney appreciated you guys. Why can't you turn the favor? Hey, Scott Nember, give me another answer. All right. All right, do we go for a trolley one or a real one? I mean, they're all, it's never a bad idea to go trolley because you just know they're going to, there's going to be some of these in here.

I think mansion is definitely. Oh, there you go. Yes. Yeah, that's a good one. It's like my favorite. Yeah. Well, I love it. Oh, that's great.

I was going to ask you what your favorite was. That's good to hear. Let's go haunted mansion, Brian. Hunted Mansion. 99 ghosts. There's room for one more. Number two ends are on the board, giving you guys three points. All right.

Very good. Does that have Eddie Murphy or not? That does not have any Murphy, but around Christmas time, it has Danny Elfman. It has all the Tim Burton Nightbeer before Christmas stuff That's true And I've never seen it when that was happening Oh really

You know what's the only time I've seen it in the last Four times I've been to Disneyland It's always that time of year When you usually go when you're there for a blizzcon And that's when they have the It's always October or November And they always have that up Well I just

In September World I've never been to California Oh You should go in September You should go in September You should go in September No land But I used to work at World, so I'm...

Oh, then you know you. You're going to know more than most of us. All right. Well, then I'll let you choose the next one. What do you think, people, enjoy? Can we ask if there's any rides that don't exist anymore? Ooh. I mean, you can't.

Does even know? We'll see if Brian can answer that. I can tell you all of... Oh, oh, interesting. There's two really popular ones that, like, don't exist anymore or have been renamed. right there might something might be here with that I'm not going to say

more than that Jesus all right all right I think but in those cases I would accept the new name

or the old name so you know okay all right um well what's your favorite I mean I don't know if it's my favorite

but I'll bet Pirate to the Caribbean's on here yeah that's one of my favorites it's nice and cool down there and always go during the summer it seems yeah That's a good reason to go on that ride. Yeah, let's do pirates. We'll try it.

Let's do pirates. Yeah. All right. Yeah, and because of all of the people's ashes that they put in the water, there's a really cool smell to the water that's very unique to Pirates of the Caribbean. Show me Pirates of the Caribbean. Number four, answer, seven points for Scott, zero for Brian. But looking for that.

Why did you need to say? We know what I have. Well, you didn't need to say that. We know what you got to see people at home happy. I have to say it now. Now we have to say it, and you are currently zero. If we didn't make that clear before you are zero. I haven't said anything yet.

So, Jojo, you and I agree. She says the only reason I read that ride that ride for the smell. There is something. There's like that, you mean the must? It kind of, yeah. There's like a musty Pirates of the Caribbean smell. And, man, the one in California is so much better than the one of Florida. Because Florida has that water table, so you can't do all the drop.

like you can't have in California. You have to go up and then... Oh, right. Okay, whatever. Whatever, Mr. Scientist. Hey, I, you know what's good on, or people are going to probably put on here? It's probably that Indiana Jones ride.

People like that one a lot. That seems like a popular deal. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, September? Indiana Jones. Oh, what? What? Roll with this September.

I want to turn. No, that's a thing. There's a performance, but it's no longer... Yeah, they don't even do the show. I was there for the last one. There's an Indiana Jones ride, you dinguses, in California that you wait in line for and you ride on. That's a thing. That's a real ride.

We said, didn't we say neither one of us have been to the one in California? Yeah. But I'm telling you, that's where most people, why, Brian, what are you doing? Get out of this. I'll take September's advice, but I ain't taking his. I think. Yeah. Because it gives us guardians, which it is not.

too and those are both like super popular but it's the same ride what is guardians and raiders no tower of terror terror terror sorry sorry I missed you I miss heard you but it's the guardians right now that's true that's Brian's favorite let's do that actually

that's good guardians okay all right he said you can find them oh shit there is a unique Tower of Terror ride in Florida so show me the Twilight Zone Tower Tower of terror.

And it was not called a Twilight Zone Tower of Terror for the longest time, right? Plus, it's in California. It's still the, it's still the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. So that one did not get combined. Plus it's in California Adventure.

And I guess we're counting that. Obviously, we're counting that. It's a Disney Park. Have you ever been to Disney World? I've never been to World only to land. Okay, I see. Yeah. Interesting.

Land only. Score right now 12 nothing. 12. You know, world is bigger than land. Oh, I know. I'm just, I want to go to Tokyo or the French one. I want to go to those.

Okay. Okay, so you feel like small world because people will be that troll? Yeah, because that's pretty trolling, yeah. It's also probably likely, if it's going to be in here, it'll be up near 10. So, let's, Ross hates it a lot. Let's do it. No, you threw up on Space Mountain, not on it's a small world. Yeah, let's do it.

Let's do a small world. Get it out of the way. Show me, it's a small world after all. Damn it. Trolly or not, let's see, that one did number 11. I don't think it's a troll. I will say that I kind of like it. And it's because it's when I ride it, it's always like, it's usually like middle of the afternoon and it's like, I'm tired.

I just want to sit and just zone for a minute. It's like one of the most, it's like the longest period of air conditioning you can get at Disneyland without being in a store or in a restaurant. Yes. Well, if you ever got stuck on it when it broke down, I promise you it would be ruling forever. It is. I mean, it's all because the repetitiveness of the music really is the biggest part. I mean, it's entertaining otherwise, but yeah, it is very repetitive. I'm going to go.

Yeah, Brian, you can't control the board now. Sorry, hey, Brian, you're up. Hey! All right, Space Mountain, Haunted Mansion, Pirates the Caribbean, Tower, Terror. We just said Small World, not right. So I'm going to go with my favorite ride, just in case they don't get a chance to say anything else, because you guys are doing pretty good. I like the Peter Pan, was Peter Pan, flight, flight of Peter Pan?

Wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Don't you're breathing? Are you breathing? No, let hurt. No, September, hush. No, that was September.

That wasn't me. September, don't give him any ideas. Let him, let him pick this one. I'm not, I'm not. All right. Show me Peter Pan. Peter Pan. Oh, come on.

That's a shame. Peter Pan, it's funny because that, oh, there we go. Number 32, it's still, it's popular enough that people still do it for rope drop because the lines get so big for Peter Pan. And this is one, Peter Pan apparently is more popular at, or is a better ride or something at, in, Florida than it is for yeah that may be true yeah the one we have is really cool it's almost like flying over miniature cities and stuff and it's just that's california as well but there's something um because there's in california it's not part of the well shojo might be able to correct me on this it's not part of the genie pass but in florida it is it is a genie pass ride

genie oh i hear there's a lot of controversy they might be getting rid of that because it's not working people are wrapped around wrapped around blocks for stuff stuff like it's bad. Oh, wow. They want to go back to the old way or something. I'm starting to it. I can't remember where there was somebody. Oh, I know what it was.

The film cast guys, or no, film cast slash film. Sorry, that's who it was. They're huge Disney nerds and they were just like freaking out that it was so bad right now. Like they had video and it was really bad. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, it's supposed to be like, you know, the whole fast pass system was great. Yeah. You just got, you did your fast pass.

You said, great, we'll show up to Pirates of the Caribbean at this. time, although that wasn't a ride. I just don't want to give anything else away. And you go under that time, and while you're waiting in line, you get your next fast pass. But the way they re-implemented it for Jeannie. And also, the way that, like, some of your expensive rides or your newest rides aren't even part of that is horrible. Yeah. You don't want any of that stuff. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah.

Okay, so back to you, Scott and September. What else you got? Yeah. Okay, do we want to go with a coaster? Yeah, we could probably do like... We could do Splash Mountain. We could do the Matahorn. Keep naming them. Keep naming them.

It just seems like the old school stuff is going to get a mention. Because everyone knows them and they're all going to say it. Maybe you don't get a picture of yourself going down to Splash Mountain. What are you even doing at Disney? Just get out of here. Fun fact. Right after they used sandbags to test it. Yeah.

Past members tested. I got to go on my lunch break and after work, and we were, I guess they figured they were insuring us anyway. That's what I was about to say. It didn't kill any of the sandbags. I guess let's use some expendable employees. Right. What's next? I got to be a test subject for that ride when it opened.

That's awesome. So that gives me an idea of when you started working or when you were working at Disney World. That's cool. That is cool. Yeah. 91 and 93. Yeah. Nice.

That was a fun time. She got to see fly to the intruder all the way to tell Jurassic Park. That's how long you're right. Movie years. Anyway, all right. So what do you think? All right. Let's try Splash.

All right. Splash Mountain. Now Tiana are going to be. Yeah. Let's do it. All right. Show me Splash Mountain soon to be Tiana's. Bayou Adventure

Yeah, number six on the list. Yeah. Yeah, Splash Mountain a little bit questionable with the whole song of the South connection. Yeah, didn't they change it though? Just a little. It's already something else, right? No, it's, well, it's in the process of being changed over to Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

I thought they changed it to something else already. I'm about to say, kind of late in the game to be doing it now. It was Splash Mountain just until October or December, and then now they've started the process. Well, I knew it was called that, but I thought there was like a, I thought they'd already thematically, uh, gotten rid of all the, Snowbrer rabbit and, and, uh, our babies. Oh, man. Literally.

Um, so they waited until 20, 24 to make that change. 20, 24 to say, you know what, I think maybe right now is a good time for us to change. It feels a little disingenuous at this point. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know, it was honey instead of tar. Right. Yeah. Hootie's right. I remember they changed some shit about it. I don't know if I, I don't, I don't, I don't ever remember tar. But it was, yeah. I can't remember. Anyway, which gives you guys 18 and nothing.

Let's do the Matterhorn because if these are all getting picked, then Matterhorn's on there. Okay. Let's do it. Show me reshuffle your spine. Matterhorn. Oh, come on. Number Matterhorn

number 18 in the list. For those at home, we are currently sitting on it. 18 to zero. 18 to zero. That's right. In the one park. All right. way.

Hurry it up. Obviously. Obviously, hurry it up. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Shut up for 20 minutes. I know. I'm going to say the one that I loved.

I love the things I like, I don't think everybody else likes. Sure. Like I love, I'm going to say the next one I love. I love the Toy Story shooting one. I love that.

The arcade thing, the shooting gallery. Midway Mania is what that one's called. Buzz Light Year's Midway Mania. Yeah. What a blast. Was that your guess? That's my guess. Okay.

All right. Show me Buzz Light Year's Midway Mania. Ew. Stupid people. Tied for 33rd place. Golly boy. 33rd. Yeah, it's hard because I think people don't think of the stuff

over at MGM or California Adventure in this case. Oh, is it MGM down? Is it MGM in Florida? I didn't know that. In Florida, it's now Disney Hollywood or something. Hollywood. Yeah, it used to be MGM Studios. Yeah.

I didn't know that. And speaking of which, my favorite freaking Star Tours. Oh, the Star Tours is so good. Yeah. They got rid of that, though, right? We're done with Star Tours. Yeah. But if it did say he had some old ones on there.

Yeah, he did. That's true. Ooh. Well, done away, maybe you'll pick it because it's your turn. It's not my turn. I just failed. No, it's yours. Wait, it is ours?

If Scott insists, I will go. No. No, you're right. Excuse me. Okay. That's three. All right. You all right?

You okay? Yep, it's three. I had to get my three out. All right. I was worried about you there for a second. Oh, yeah, no. Always threes. Always in threes.

A master, a student. an advisor. I mean, we could say Star Tours and, like, hope for the best. I don't know. You don't think it's going to be on there. Well, what about Thunder Mountain? Nobody's got Thunder Mountain Railroad.

I like Sunter Mountain. And I just didn't even thinking about that's a good point. I like Thunder Mountain as a ride. So I, you know what? I endorse your platform. Let's do it. Thunder Mountain. All right.

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Show me. Yep, number 8, 26 to nothing. I might... You don't have to say nothing. You can just say Scott's got 26. Yeah, no, it's really, I think September wins either way, because the only way to tie is to get 10, 9, and 7.

Yeah. And... Okay, Monica, 7. And then the win would be the third one, yeah. Anyway. Okay. Well, I feel pretty good. Monica.

Yeah. I like this. All right, well, then we can just screw up here if we need to. Let's see. So do we want to go ahead and try Star Tours then? Yeah, let's do it just because I have nostalgia for that too. Let's get it back on there. Yeah, sure.

Let's do it. All right, show me the absolutely still running at Tomorrowland in both parks, Star Tours. I thought it was gone. They moved it to Tomorrowland? Yeah, it's in Tomorrowland. Oh, where was it in Florida? Was it not in Tomorrowland in Florida?

Florida? No. Was that an MGM slash Hollywood? I thought it was gone. Because it's still in, it's still in California in Tomorrowland. Oh my gosh. I can't believe it. It was always, it was always, when I was last there, it was still in studios along with, uh, what was it? What was it? Okay. Muppets and stuff. Man, I just forgot. Oh, yeah, Hollywood Studios. Okay, so still there. And, uh, number 14 on the list, by the way. I'm so very embarrassed about what we didn't say. So, Dunaway, let's see if you can do it. Oh, really? Really. Yep. Interesting. I think we cover all the mountains. I know the one that I used to, there used to be an alien one, then they changed it to Lilo and Stitch. I love that one.

He jumps on your shoulders and stuff. Forget what that one's called. Terrestrial, I believe. Yeah, yeah. A terrestrial encounter. Yeah, that was cool. I loved that one, but I don't think that's going to be on here. And let's see, what was the other one?

Oh, it's not on here, but they made a movie about it. it so it had to be at least some popular with the rock the jungle cruise and we need to head over to the jungle area all right the jungle area jungle cruise the jungler adventure land is what you're talking about

show me jungle cruise and all those backside of water jokes oh my gosh I got zero jungle cruise number 29 in the list surprisingly but that is the end of the game congratulations

final score 26 to nothing Scott and Ember, good job. Yeah, but here's the thing. We didn't say the rise of the resistance because we're stupid. Why didn't we say that? Oh, my gosh. Number three, rise of the resistance. I haven't seen it yet.

I haven't either, but I forgot about it. I knew that would be big. And then I look at the chat after we had our three strikes and everyone's screaming and I'm like, oh, gosh, dang it. I call it it's the greatest ride in any amusement park that I've ever been on is Rise of the Resistance. Wow, that is some serious break. And I've been to amusement parks all over this great land of ours and in other countries, and that is... So better than Six Flags or Carawins? Is that what you're saying?

Better than... I haven't been to carowans, and I haven't been to... What's the Sandusky Park? The... That's all roller coasters. I can't remember that one. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. But that's like an all roller coaster park or a lot of roller coasters. Abcot? I don't know. Hell, what's left? I didn't get nothing. Houdie, I wasn't looking at the chat because I didn't want to cheat.

I know sometimes we do that. I know, but I didn't look. I usually don't. I usually want to not. I usually only do it. That's the park I'm trying to remember. And I need to get out to Cedar Point before I can't ride roller coasters anymore. All right.

Let's get to the rest of this list here. That's a good turn. Number seven is one that's only in Florida. And I believe this is another one in Hollywood Studios. September, you can correct me on this. The Aerosmith Rockin Roller Coaster. Are you kidding me, the Aerosmith rocking roller coaster above the toy story? You actually choose your music on.

Yeah. When it works. It's funny because I've only been to the, and it was back, it was called MGM Studios and we went out there. And I've only been in that part of the park once. And I assumed that was just like a motion, like you're in a, in a puke box, basically it's just rocking back and forth because of the name Rocking the roller coaster.

I'm like, oh, I don't want to do that. And so I never did it. And I regret it because everybody says, oh, that's such a great, such a great ride. I never even heard of me. Only in Florida. Funny I shrunked and kids, great because they have smell of vision and stuff in there,

don't they? Exactly. This is another one that was part of Blackspire is part of Black Spire Outpost. The Millennium Falcon's run. Oh. Get to fly the Millennium Falcon with a bunch of things. Is that only in land?

That's in both. that's in both the new star wars yeah it's in black spire outpost in both parks both parks that's the only that's the only layout that is identical between florida and california is the whole black spire outpost i think down to the meter like it's oh my gosh really yeah i didn't know that that's crazy they basically took the template and went blork blork and hall of presidents yeah uh amy says that is the best the best place for air conditioning I would agree except even seeing an animatronic of Trump for that long is too much It's so fast

It's my favorite Oh that's a pretty good Yeah All right last one Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewine that's the new roller coasters It's only an Epcot I'm seeing a theme

I'm seeing a very much a theme here with Yes Star Wars and Marvel Arrow No one said with your Toad's wild ride. No one in the top 10 did. Here's the remainder. Indiana Jones Adventure or Crystal Skull is, was number 12, the Mad Tea Party, T-Cups, 13. Expedition Everest, a fantastic ride out in Florida and Animal Kingdom.

What about a Dumbo ride? That one's cool. I like a ride. A dumbbo. People did say Dumbo, number 27 on list. Guards of the Galaxy Mission breakout, which is what in California, what the Tower of Terror turned into. Which is why I couldn't give you points because that is, that's, that's, considered a separate ride.

Let's see here. Tron Light Cycles, brand new. Soren, the Avatar Flight of Passage out there in Florida. Seven Dwarves Mine Train. 20,000 league subride, which is now finding Nemo in Credit Coaster. What was it before that? Shoot, California Adventure is the something coaster. Great California.

Honey, I shrunk the coaster. I don't know. Honey, I shrunk the track. Honey, I forgot to attach. track, the Cali River Rapids Mission to Mars, the air condition and then we get to here's all, I'll give you all the trolley answers. You ready? Okay.

Give it to it. Air condition bus on the way home. Ambulance to the hospital. Back to the future. Captain Eo was pretty sweet the last time I went and say back in 1996. Nice. I'm about to say. Drinking and eating around the world in Epcot,

emergency medical shuttle. The turkey leg booth. It is the best. It is the best, actually. Somebody just put Gaston. It's the best ride at Disney Rock. Wow.

Because he is the best. He thinks he's the best. Hagrid's roller coaster. Hulk. Let's see. Both of those in Universal, by the way. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. There you go.

Overrated. Just somebody saying overrated. Parking lot, tram back to the car. Oh, man. You know what? I hate to kind of relate to all these people and the stuff. Oh, it's so freaking expensive. It's expensive. You think about one of those.

It's like, yeah, I've burned up all my discounts, too. Like, I used to have great ways of getting discounts, and I've used them all up. Now I want a churro. I want a pineapple. I want a dolewit. That's what I want. Give me a dolewit. Sounds so good right now. Anyway, well, that's great.

You know what this means. It means that she's won, and that means she gets the prizes. Congratulations. And that means Brian will send them to you shortly, and you'll have those codes, and then you'll be able to install them and play them at your leisure. How do you feel about your win, September? You're feeling pretty good? I'm so grateful for all of you every day.

Oh, thanks, September. Same here. Wake me up when you end. No, that's not how I want to say that. No, scary. You know what? I'm so glad that September got a game called 12 is better than 16 with her name name 9 of 12. Oh, that's amazing.

Yeah, I hadn't even noticed that. It didn't even until I copied and paste it in there. I'm like, oh, yeah, look at that. Hey, Dunaway, are we playing UTK4? I am planning from playing UT 99. Are we planning on a UTI today? So tonight's 99, Fridays, you know, that's how we should do it. 2K4s on Fridays, and the monies around are UT 99s.

That makes sense. I like it. That's how I've been playing the last couple of weeks, I think it's working out pretty good. Is that what I have? I have 99. You have 99, so you should show up tonight. 430, we say. Mountain, I think? 99.

6.30 year time? Yeah, 4.30 your time, 6.30, my time. And we made some adjustments to the 2K4 server. So if you do just want to jump on that one, I've got a much better map list. Last Friday was a nightmare. This time is a lot better. Last Friday was experimental.

Let's say it that way. Yeah. Yeah, we had a real moment there. But anyway, I look forward to kicking your butt by. I see. I got him before he could say, no, you. Yeah, I know. It was good.

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I'm blue blown away by its quality, its design aesthetic, and its ability to take me where I need to go. That's really good. Good answer. Brian, that's awesome. Let's take a break. Let's play a song and let's come back with Bobby and some science after this. What do we have? Well, okay.

Let's go to an artist named Lauren M-I-N-E-A-R. I believe we've played something from this album. this upcoming album, which I think is now out a few weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago. This song was partially inspired by Gray's Anatomy, she admits. This is a song called The Sun, the third single from her forthcoming sophomore album, Chasing Daylight. Here is Laura Minier. All right. We'll be right back, everybody. Lauren.

Lauren. Lauren. Lauren. When people are like, why does he keep saying Yanni? Lauren. All I hear is Yanni, and I haven't heard Yonni in a long time. so let's give it a shot. Anyway, we'll be back after this.

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Did you see the one about the guys who started at the bottom, stayed at the bottom, and at the end they were still at the bottom? So inspirational. Who'd go and see that? Remember me? We've returned, but we've returned. turned only to tell you about that song one more time. Brian, remind me. Sure. That is from the upcoming album, Chasing Daylight. That is Lauren Miniar with a song called The Sun. Go check it out.

Can't wait to hear Yanni play. We are. I think she's wearing a blue dress. Yeah. Yeah. I can tell it's blue and black. I love them. I love to all that's the green needle. And she's using a green needle to patch it up. Exactly. I like combining all of those stupid, uh, everyone's. Oh, that wasn't supposed to play. Anyway, hey, look who we got coming in. We got one Bobby Frankenberger, and where's his theme? Hold on.

It's right here. No, it isn't. Why can't I find it? Here it is. Science. Bob is hungry, and the soup looks good. Well, well, well, if it isn't Bobby Frankenberger, joining us, taking a brief respite from the massive, weird thing he built in shapes with a Z.

I cannot believe. So this is going to be a little insider baseball, but if you'd listen to Coridol, you know, I raved about a game called Shapes for months and months and months. It's this amazing automation kind of factory game. And Bobby got playing it. And he went from, I don't know how this works to, I think he might be a genius and he's going to leave this mortal realm. The stuff he sends me, I cannot believe you're doing that stuff. So anyway, I just wanted to bring that up because a few of you will understand why this is a big deal. and if you see the complexity of what he's built

it's insane. I don't know how you've done. Really? Wow. It's a fantastic game. We're going to have to tell the devs what you've done and show them. Don't you think? It's, no, it's what I've done is not, it's hard, but you oversell it a little bit because it's, once you

reach a certain point in the game, the game recommends to you that you try to build. It doesn't tell you how, but it recommends, it just pops up a little thing that says, now you might consider making a machine that can make any shape automated automatically. And so it doesn't tell you how you would do that,

but I decided to do it. So other people have done it. You're an end game, though. This is end game for shapes. It's very much an end game. But there's an achievement for it. It's called a make-anything machine. I think like some percentage of people have gotten it.

I haven't looked. Yeah. So you got the achievement, though? It popped for it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you, man. That's awesome. I love that game, but I, I,

I wish I loved it to that degree. Right? I wish I loved anything as much as that. That's insane. If you have played it, it is hard to do. You make a machine that will make any shape. You don't touch the keyboard. In fact, that's how the achievement works.

It knows that you've made the shape because it says complete any level without building a building at all. And so that's what it is, is the level starts. It gives you a random shape that you have to complete. And then you've already built a machine that will handle the entire thing for you without you having to touch anything. Basically, plop it down and hook it up to the right resources and you're done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy.

Because the hub where you deliver all the machines, it has a signal, a wire signal that outputs what the shape is that it wants. You know how people can create like functional computers within Minecraft, like Minecraft itself? they've got settings it's like that a little bit in that if you look at it from afar zoom way out it looks like you're designing circuit boards that's how it looks

yeah and that's how you can tell if you're really efficient too because like all your things are following the same lines and going around just crazy when does shapes two supposed to be coming out

I know it's like in they don't have a date yet demo's out demo's fantastic they extended the demo so you can still play it it's really polished and awesome yeah yeah So my guess is we'll see that by summer, and that thing's going to own me for months.

And then we won't hear from Bobby for... Every segment will be a tutorial on how to make shape. Today on science, we're going to talk about the half circle and how you get to have a purple half circle to go into the box. We'll look forward to our brand new segment. Look for it coming up this summer with Bobby Frankenberger, which today is all science related and based. because he does a podcast called All Around Science, and he's here to share with us whatever he brought. I have no idea.

Bobby, what are we doing? Well, today I was going to talk a little bit about some post-COVID research that is not related to the virus, exactly. But, you know, for a long time, we talked about how, oh, there's so much interesting science to be done around COVID because it wasn't just all about vaccines and chemistry, and biology and everything, but there were a lot of, like, like, what, what economist would call a natural experiment, there are a lot of natural social experiments happening all over, right?

Because people had to stay home, people had to shelter in place, all that kind of stuff, right? And so, and then also just all sorts of things, right? One of the things is that people had to work from home. COVID caused a lot of people to have to work from home, and it led some people were stressed out about that because the difficulty balancing work life and home life. Others preferred it and they like the flexibility and the comfort of working from home. Some students actually turned out to do really well with the distance learning too. Yeah, exactly.

There was all the school stuff and everything. So I already worked from home as a stay-at-home parent. So that didn't really affect me. I heard that your guys' bosses made you go back to the office. office as soon as it was over. It was such a change for us like, oh my gosh, we have to work from home now? How are we ever going to do this? Yeah, my boss was already a giant dick, and he just got more dickish during the pandemic.

Yeah, yeah. Well, a lot of companies started calling people back to the office after a while, these so-called RTO mandates, return to office mandates. And the argument was made that the reason they were doing was that was because it improved worker performance or or increased productivity or or some people said it promotes collaboration in the workplace so it created it resulted in better outcomes at in business or whatever it is that they did but there hasn't been a lot of data that exists to support that claim and so there was a study that was done trying to tease that apart since it's been a number of years now

since um since sort of life has quote unquote return to normal you know and and and we've had some time so there's some researchers got together and analyzed um about so almost 500 different s mp 500 listed firms um 137 of the the the businesses um had returned to office mandates and then 320 that they looked at which did not have returned to office mandates. They looked at them between June 2019 and January, 2023, and they wanted to see, what's the difference? Is there evidence that exists here that shows that the companies with return to office mandates benefited them at all? Improop productivity.

I ended up with higher, higher, whatever. I love this kind of data because it ignores all the hyperbole around it. around the virus in general, but just around, like, work and work from home and then these, like, old ideas we have about, well, that's just for lazy people in their underwear, don't want to, you know, like, we, it challenges these ideas with actual data. I love this stuff. So please, lay it on us. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, um, people are claiming to make decisions about structuring and organizing work and the workplace based on these ideas that it does something. So we need data to, to support whether the claims that people are making are true, right? So what they did was they looked at the financial data of the companies as well as the employee reviews. They wanted to not just look at how did it affect the bottom line, although they did think that that was important because a lot of the claims were about the bottom line. But they wanted to look at employee reviews as well because workplace satisfaction and employee satisfaction was really important, an important metric they wanted to determine as well. And so what they found out, first of all, and I don't know how much this will surprise you or not.

It didn't really surprise me, but they found out first that the return to office mandates did not improve the financial metrics of the firms that implemented them at all. So they weren't making more money because they were asking people to return to office. right um and so the the people who get paid for office space probably made more money right like they'd they'd better yeah well and maybe and maybe some some of the companies were making that argument right because if you're a big s mp 500 company there's a chance that you were not just selling your your five floors of a skyscraper um just because covid happened right but you didn't have anybody in it so you're trying to make that financial calculation like we're paying for this we're leasing you know this huge office space and nobody's in it so there could have been a lot of

pressure there to say like if we're going to have this we need people in it yeah yeah you know um but but then you know with with uh and so they justify it by saying that it's going to benefit the company's bottom line but this kind of data can can show like maybe it's not affecting the company's bottom line and maybe you could have saved money by selling half of it or something, you know, or not, we're not leasing it anymore. So, yeah, they found out, they also found out that return to office mandates significantly decreased employee satisfaction. Significantly is what they said. This does not shock me at all to hear that.

No, I don't, that's why I said it doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah. That people preferred, in general, over the population, in general preferred the flexibility of being able to work from home. Right, right. Sure. Yeah, so this is a little conspiratorial. And I don't like that stuff very much, but I hear people talk about it. And there's probably some truth to this, but there's so much empty office space that used to be a very premium thing, right? And so commercial real estate has been in a bit of a tizzy because they're not filling up to space. The leases aren't being continued for companies that aren't doing mandates. And then they have a very specific

interest in spreading the word that we can't have remote work happening, that only productivity happens if you're back at the office because that's how they make their money is those things have to succeed. Those buildings have to be full and they have to be paying rent or leases or whatever it is. And because so many of them, like huge swaths of buildings in like New York City, are empty and revenue is nothing there for some of these commercial real estate owners that they have every interest in the world in trying to drive the narrative that remote work is bad and the problem with that is the data like you're bringing today and other others like it seem to support the exact opposite and i think this is going to get weirder before it gets better

because you're going to start seeing it happen at like legislative levels where you're going to have, you know, lobbying happening may already be happening where, uh, legislators are going to be pushed in this country anyway to, to try to push the narrative that this is bad. And we need to fill up those office spaces again when really all it's about is just making sure their lease goals are met. I don't think that. I don't think that sounds conspiratorial at all. Um, or it's conspiratorial in the like, your crazy negative kind of sense, right? Like, sure it might be conspiratorial in the sense that people with power are conspiring behind the scenes to figure, you know, like, but I don't think it sounds crazy to say that because

because the types of people that, that own these buildings, these, these huge pieces of real estate, they're very wealthy and they're also have, have, like at that level, business looks different than we're used to looking at down here, right? And so a lot of business is done with relationships that you maintain. And so you can imagine some Fortune 500 company CEO out to dinner with somebody who owns some skyscraper in New York. And there's, you know, saying like, look, man, we're we don't know if we're going to continue this lease. And they're having a conversation about it. And they're saying, well, look, I need you to make sure that people are still in these buildings because we're making money from this and this you know like

they're having those conversations i'm sure they're having those conversations right um now the re now some this paper even supports that there might be those kinds of things going on you made me think of that because an interesting finding that they had was that they found that companies with male CEOs who hold more power were more likely to enforce return to office mandates. Now, when they, they define CEO power, because that's a funny thing to say, they define it as, they measured it as the CEO's total compensation divided by the average total compensation paid to the next four highest paid executives. Oh. Why is that the formula? I don't understand how that's, that correlates. They're talking about companies that have or CEOs that have

much more financial power as compared to even the next people below them. So, like, very highly disproportionate. Not just CEOs get paid a ton of money compared to, you know, the cubicle workers. Of course, we all know that. But we're talking about, like, even more highly- Middle management or, yeah. Yeah. Like, we're talking CEO versus CFO.

Yeah, exactly. The next person down, the next two or three people down. You know who's hardly ever in the office? CEOs, they're barely. So true, yeah. They may be busy traveling. They may be going to events. They may be speaking.

But also, they spent a lot of time of home looking at paper and using their notebooks. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Yeah. So what they found was that measure, if they define CEO power in that way, they found that the CEOs who have a higher ratio of their compensation to the next people below them, they were much more likely to enforce a return to office mandate. Everything else we said about having conversations behind the scenes with real estate moguls, that's all speculation.

They didn't talk about that in here. But the data is showing that as they define CEO power, higher CEO power correlated with a higher likelihood to enforce return to office mandates. Interesting. So what does that mean? Maybe don't know. Also, the male CEOs was something that they pointed out as well. So, of course, all I know is, someone said in the chat, I don't know who.

The pandemic made a lot of rich people much richer. I don't think they should be complaining about shit. They should just chill out and calm down and knock it off. And who cares about commercial real estate? Like, converted into condos and homes and stuff. You'll make money. Already rent is through the freaking roof. Or startup businesses, like, you know, lower it down so a startup business can get in there

and take over some of that office space. Something. Do something. But you don't have to go, well, it's been this way for 150 years. And we'd like it to be that way for. another 150. It doesn't have to be... If you can show

that the money is still being made and that you're not losing productivity, then what do you who cares? What you should do whatever. There are a couple more things that they said in the paper in terms of in the discussion

of the paper. So this is them looking at data and looking at interviews that they did with employees and also talking to other experts that uh to to sort of draw conclusions um and but it's it's this this part of it is of the paper is not necessarily hard backed by evidence but i think it's important to say that because this is them doing a lot of speculation based on other things that they saw and research that they did to write the paper um and that they said that uh that the return to office mandates seem to be

there's evidence to support it being used as a tactic to blame and for poor performance. The arguments that they were making were that many managers and many CEOs would use work-from-home allowances and point to that to say that that led to reduced productivity and employees, and then they would use return-to-office mandates as a sort of scapegoat and a way to punish employees. who were who were underperforming you know what i mean so or or who they perceived as underperforming um so you're these you know this department is not doing too well and they're all working from home so therefore ergo therefore you're coming back to work because you're you're for whatever that must be the problem yeah yeah yeah and i get why it's the easy one because it has i don't know hundreds of of assumption behind it, you know, people just assume that if that department isn't performing,

well, it must be this because what else could it be? But we got to stop doing that. We got to look for what it is, you know? We got all this AI. Why don't we use AI to do this? Why don't we replace CEOs with AI if it's so good? Why don't we just, why haven't we just started letting AI run all of our life? Yeah, why not? Sure, sure. I mean, Brian, if anything, let's have it right all of our trivia games. I was going to say, if Brian's proven anything, it can write trivia like nobody else. That's right. Exactly.

Damn, dude. Jeez. They did point out a couple of weaknesses. I like to point out study weaknesses because a lot of people are wondering, like, what's going on here. There are weaknesses to every study, and one of the ones that they said here was limited time frame. They said that there hasn't been enough time to

determine maybe the long-term effects of return to office mandates. They could exist. We don't know yet. There are labor market conditions that they pointed out, which is that in the period following the pandemic, there was a huge labor shortage, which could also contribute to a lack of employee satisfaction, people having to work way too hard, and just plain bad numbers for companies, right? So those, that labor shortage could be also influencing the bottom line of companies and maybe muddying the

waters in terms of being able to tease out are these return to office mandates having an effect so it's hard to say yeah none of this can be you know obviously can't be as exact as me measuring how much hydrogen is in my water glass you know what I mean because you can do that we have the tools for that but this is more the social science stuff can get tricky but I do like that you know one of the things that I felt like during the pandemic when it really hit or one of the positive things I tried to keep in my head was, we're going to have a ton of data after this. This is going to be interesting because regardless of how awful it is, who benefits, who doesn't, like what it does to change society, all of those things aside, at the end of it

all, we're going to have data that's interesting and we'll be able to like suss through it and see, well, what did most people do during this time? Or how was this affected? And I feel like we're just now getting to that place where we're hearing about it. Yeah. And so what this really will do is even if this, even if we look at this paper and we say, that's, that's a little muddy and that can't tell us a lot. And people have a lot of problems with the results and everything. What it will do is what science always does, which is lead to more questions and people saying, well, let's, let's look at this part of that paper and let's try to replicate that and fix some of the, some of the, the errors with the way that was designed. Let's look at more

data and get some statisticians involved. And more people will continue to work on this. And we will start to get better, more well-designed analyses of the numbers and stuff like that. Well, we shall see. We will learn more as it happens. Let's hope we don't get any more big diseases in the meantime that will disrupt our data. Bobby, once again, always a pleasure. Tell people about your show and what you're talking about this week. Well, we have a podcast called All Around Science where every week we talk about science.

and this week was no different than any of the other weeks. And I didn't get the folder open fast enough. Oh, I saw what you were doing there. Yeah. You're a pro now with the delay and stuff. That's good. But what we talked about was, let's see, oh, how much energy is needed to make the sound that we hear? Somebody asked a question wondering, what is asking the simple question of there was a, if, what is, what is the minimum amount of energy that would be needed to make?

make the smallest sound that we can hear. And I fully thought, that'll be an easy thing to research. And I'll just answer it at the end of the show. And it turned into most of the show because the sound is complicated. But we talked a lot about sound and all the energy that goes into making sound and how sound works. And we talk about loudness for those of you, A&TP fans. Yeah, that was the whole Jenny-Josefson thing that was such a revelation to a lot of us in the business. yeah and here's here's an example of loudness that's pretty loud that's pretty loud so if you

weren't ready for that that's because it was loud and if you want to know why it was so loud then go listen to the latest episode of all around science how much energy did it take for scott to produce that noise that's what i'd like to know yeah and if you want to know that it sounds like they've got that answer over on all around science so go check that out find it wherever get your podcast bobby it's always a pleasure have a fantastic week we'll see you next time bye now see you go make ridiculously complex structures in the game shapes with a Zee.

He's really good. He's putting us all to shame in that game. He really is, dude. It's amazing that stuff. He's upped his shapes game. I should probably show one of these. You know what I will? Oh yeah, I'd like to see it.

Make sure you put it in our... Because this is banana time, Brian. Banana time. Like, I don't know how anyone does this, let alone Bobby. Here you go. Okay. So I'll put it in Discord first

so you can see it. Okay. This is just an example of his make-anything machine. Oh, my God. And that's zoomed out to Mac, so that's how far you can go. I know, I'm opening of my browser so I can zoom in. I mean, so essentially this setup will make anything he needs.

So you could just say, well, I need to make red circles with half the circle blue and then a, I don't know, a square in the middle. There's an app for that. Yeah. And this is the app. And this is just insane. And you have to place all these little bits. obviously you can you know copy him later in the game you have the ability to copy and paste whole chunks but it's uh it's something and he has uh yeah he's mastered shapes he's insane

shape master shape master there you go yeah it's his new rapper name i can't wait to go on tour yo dj shapes a lot ds a lot in the house in his house yeah all right uh monday show tonight Carter will be home from work at 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Her and I will be hanging out and talking. She's going to call me to task on something I did this week. Oh, can't wait to hear that. Yeah, I'm going to argue that it was fine. And she's going to argue that it was absolutely not fine.

So find out. Oh, my God. I really got to hear that. So find out live tonight if you want to hear a generational gap. Tonight's your night. A couple of quick messages from listeners. We've got one from Eric here that says how Rust works on metal. We were talking about the Tesla trucks.

having the rust and people being all mad. Eric, who is a Model Y owner, says, what appears to be rust developing on the hoods of Tesla trucks is actually what is known as Rust Dust. It is in the air. A common source is train tracks. I had exact same problem on a Honda Accord, which was, of course, painted. It landed on my hood in specs and was a real pain to remove.

Surprise, I lived three blocks from a very active railroad track. The issues have been covered extensively in owners groups. video here explaining what's going on. He sent me a YouTube video. Yeah, it turns out that this is a thing and it can affect a lot of people. I think it's maybe more prominent with the trucks because, A, there's a spotlight on those trucks right now. People are talking about it all the time.

It's kind of like when there's an accident with a Tesla, you hear about it, but there are 400 million accidents with other cars all day and you don't hear about those. It's kind of the same thing. Right, of course, yeah. So anyway, I guess that is a thing. I'll have to watch that because, I mean, you would think that, all right, well, so the rest dust comes off the railroad tracks, lands on the cyber trucks, and you could just brush it off, but apparently not.

No. It, like, it's hard to get in or welds its, I don't know what these, all the wrong words. It combines itself with the metal of the cyber truck or something. Something like that, but we appreciate the perspective. We also heard from Shojo, deer bought holes, she says. This is about high schools. She said, we were talking about famous ones in your feud that day. Yeah.

The one where you gave the. score prominently the entire time? I probably didn't. It says, I failed to mention some high school facts about my own high school during Artad Polly Feud. She was on that one. She says, for context, I went to Eastlake High School in Chulis, sorry, Chula Vista.

That's right. My kids went to Was it East Lake? No, Westlake, they went to. I went to Chalulula Vista. It was a really spicy high school. Oh, man. You got to watch out for that. I went to Chiro high school and it was tasty and sweet. It was all right.

It was a sweet, sweet high school. It was maybe a little oily, just a little bit. Anyway, this is miles north of the Mexican border. Fact one, all of the stadium scenes in the first Bring It On film is my actual high school stadium. Oh, that's cool. I've never seen a bring it on movie. I have no idea I think I saw the first one.

You're a lucky man. I never did. fact number two I see myself like for that she says do you guys recall the television show by the name silk stockings oh yes up all night

USA baby right exactly yeah she says it was one of those crime solving detective hoohaz anyway on one of the episodes there was a murder at a high school guess whose high school is featured in it yeah you got it

not only was my high school the backdrop of the show myself and the rest of the drama club members got to be in background extras for it yes I was a hardcore theater kid growing up I still carry my international Fespian Society membership card in my wallet. That's so cool.

Dude, that's awesome. Bring that to Vegas. Or you're in Vegas. We'll come to you. Bring that to one of the events so we can see it. Yeah, it says, I remember laughing at the professional extras with my friends because they were supposed to dress up like high school kids and they all looked like they walked out of an old Navy commercial.

Says, I went to high school during the 90s. So y'all know we did dress like some basic bitches back then, she says. Anyways, thought I'd share some facts about my high school. Don't eat yellow snow. see you in Vegas, your friend, Shogha. Well, sounds like your school

was a cool place to get stuff done. Yeah, no kidding. That's awesome. Wow. All right. Chula Vista in all the films. Yep.

Sounds like fun to me. I could see her being a theater kid. Totally can picture it. Totally. Yeah. 100%. I mean, you can see in her TikToks. Like, she knows how to, she knows how to perform.

Yep. She has embraced Thespianism. That's right. That's it. Go to frogpance.com. slash TMS for all the details on how to contact us, all that stuff, our email, our hotline, our stuff are all there. You can find our link to our Patreon, which we talked about at the top of the show. All of these things are available to you at your fingertips at frogpants.com

slash TMS. Brian, we've got to get out of here, but we can't do it until you play music. With a song, Norbert says, hey, Norbert from Romania here, long-time listener, first-time requester. I always wanted to send in a request, but every time I try to do it, I get distracted. Like now, for example, I started drafting this on a Tuesday, and it's now six days later, and I still haven't finished. I'm turning 37, so my dementia is still far away, but a reachable goal for my later years. At least I don't have to hear the old lady from the Sopranos wishing me a happy birthday. Oh, maybe you do. Anyway, I've been a Pink Floyd fan since I was 23.

I listened to Time, and it just clicked, and everything fell into place. We'd love to hear a cover of that or Maroon or anything else you deem worthy. Thanks. P.S. Reunions are the hot thing right now. How about an ELR reunion, Scott? Don't make us beg. I mean, I could probably arrange it.

I think, oh, it would be down. I know Dunaway would do it. Yeah. We probably could work something out. I don't know. It's just a lot going on. And every time someone asks for this, I just go, yeah, but when? When are we doing it?

Right. Yeah. I'll let you know. Okay. What marble has to leave the straw for that one to make its way into it, basically. Many marbles have to leave. Many, many marbles. All right, let's get to this.

It is a cover of Time, Pink Floyd's song, Time. covered here by Kelsey Wood. This is from a really cool tribute album to Pink Floyd called A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd. It's written to sound like it's a freaking Pink Floyd album. A Fair Forgery of Pink Floyd, this is from Disc One, which was called Us. Here is Time. Ticking away the moments the makeup of Dolday Fritter and waste, the eyes and an arpair way, yeah

Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown Waiting with someone or something to show you away Time of running in the sunshine Staying home to watch the rain You are young and life is long There is time to kill today And then one day you find Ten years have got behind you

No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun When you run and you learn to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking, embracing around to come up behind you again. The sun is the same in a row, let's away, but you're older. I'm torn out of breath And one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter

Shorter never seem to find a time When I'm down either come to knock Or half a page of your skull lines Kringing on in quiet desperation Is the English way The time is gone The song is over Thought had something more to say

Home Again I like to be here When I can When I come home cold and It's good to mourn my bones beside the fire We crawl away across the hill The tolling of the iron boughs

It calls the faithful to their knees To hear the soft-spoken magic tells Get more at frogpants.com. Got it off a hooker in Cloud City. Why?