The Morning Stream - TMS 2611: One Randy Hamster

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

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Well, hello, Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMSS for our last episode of this week. Okay. Wow. Okay. I don't want to bring everyone down so early, but this is our last official episode of this week. Okay. That's right. March 7th, it is 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. Brian Abbott over there. Hello, Brian. Hello. Hello. Yeah, man. It's a Thursday, you know, got the Thursday shit all lined up. It's all fun, all good. I like, we even have bonus Thursday shit from the Tuesday we missed. Oh, that's right. we do because Tuesday with our tech issues didn't mean the loss of a guest this week so

a little extra double up today so look forward to that we got a we got some fighting words from a listener about bad songs and we should probably we should probably get this out of the way because yeah we better yeah so making it making the room stink a little bit just kidding it says this this is bill in Colorado Springs so near you also he puts in parentheses not as bad as Brian thinks speaking of Colorado you don't know he doesn't know how bad I think Colorado Springs is. I think you may have mentioned a couple of times. It's a very conservative part of the state.

Sure. A little gun-tody, a little, you know, a little on that end of the scale. A little, you know, we made Melissa Etheridge boycott our state for quite a while in the 90s kind of thing going on. Sure. How's that now? Can she come there now? She can come here now. Yeah, Melissa Etheridge is welcome. All right. Go. Yeah. Come to Red Rocks and get all the gum off the stuff. seats anyway or at least someone with similar features that's right I love that we need a country star or a folk star person who looks a little like her if we could something like that arrangement that'd be

great good morning steam and boil in regards to your discussion on monday's tMS about the worst songs ever anything by the b 52 should fill the entire top of that list in my opinion I have a visceral reaction every time I hear Rock Lobster or Love Shack, just awful. I enjoy audibly taking your verbal percussion, however, protrusions, however, Bill from Colorado Springs, not as bad as Brian, thanks. I disagree with that wholeheartedly. Yeah, yeah. I love the Beech and Tews, you know. I'm tired of the song Love Shack, but that doesn't mean, I don't think they're, man, you know, you go back to songs like Dance This Mess Around or, or.

or Planet Clare, or Legal Tender. Oh, Legal Tender is such a great song. Or what's one, is it called? Song for a Future Generation. That one's great. Those, those, the album before, um, I'm going to forget the name of the album that had Love Shack and Rome.

It was Cosmic Thing. So the album before Cosmic Thing, whatever that one, was that Mesopotamia? Might have been Mesopotamia. Um, that, that album is so fantastic from start to finish. But this guy probably really hates Fred Schneider. Probably, yeah, it's probably that da-ba-da-da-da-da-da-do that guy in the background all

the time. You know, I could see that getting on your nerves. Yeah. Because there's no, he doesn't mention Rome. And Rome is a pretty much Fred-free song. There's very little Fred. He's like a backing vocal in the chorus and stuff. But I can watch Kate Pearson and Cindy Wilson to do any, they're great, man. Yeah. Yeah. They're fantastic. Look, and if they have a hype man named Fred who hangs around and just talks, that's fine. It's fine. I don't even think that album's, I mean, I know it was overplayed. Cosmic Thing was their biggest hit, you know, their biggest, like, sweep, right?

The biggest album, yeah, it was their, you know, that Love Shack was just played on every college radio, regular mainstream radio, AAA format, all that stuff was, you know, that that song was all over it because it was great cross, cross. sing the streams kind of thing. Yeah. And Rome's an amazing song. It's an amazing song. Yeah. Legal Tender. I'll take legal tender any day of the week.

Deadbeat Club. I don't know that one. What is that? Dead Beat Club. It's the one, oh, no, here they come. The members of the Deadbeat Club. That's on that same. That's a big club.

Very little Fred in there. It's not even Fred. It's not even Fred. You know, very mellow Fred. one. I love that. I mean, look, I understand why that's annoying for people, but I want more Fred Schneider type things in my life. I don't know why. I'm just at a stage where I'd love a guy to just pipe up. You know, like, give me an Adele song. Hello from the other side. The other side. You know, somebody's just doing that. Right. You can sign me up, man. Well, anyway, we appreciate you

letting us know. And we'll take it to heart. It's that Bill from Colorado Springs. Yes. We had a Tribute question. Let's see if I can give it to you really quick. A trivia question on Tuesday night was, let's see if I can't find it easily, then I won't. But it was, there were 11 female solo artists with six or more number ones in their history. Six or more number one billboard hits.

And we had to come up with our list. And we had a list that was like, oh, Could be her. Oh, could be her. What about her? And we had just a ton on the list. We ended up getting eight of the ten, I believe. Wow. That's pretty good. Can I guess a couple? Like, Alanis Morissette, probably. No, not Atlanta Morissette. All women, all female? Yeah, well, this list was all female. The person with the most number ones are the band is the Beatles and Elvis is the, I think, or Michael Jackson might be the solo. female solo artist. Female solo artist, yeah. Okay, let's put Dolly Parton on there.

No, surprising. She has a lot of country number ones, but not a lot of billboard number ones. All right. Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston is one of them, yes. What about a singer who calls herself the Queen of Christmas, even though other people maybe don't call her the Queen of Christmas? Oh, the one married to Nick Cannon. And more or less married in a camera.

Yeah, that's true. It's not really. Conventional marriage, really. Yeah. The name you're looking for is Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey. Gosh, dang it. Oh, how about?

Madonna's on there. Madonna's on the list, yep. Oh, come on, Scott. I can do this. You can do this. Cindy Lopper, maybe. Madonna's at 13, 12. 12, number one hits for,

Madonna. No. Not going to be enough for her, is there? Nope. Who's the biggest female artist right now? Crossing, appearing on stages and breaking records and Of course, Taylor Swift's on there.

Taylor Swift with, I think, 11 number ones. Yeah. Katie Perry on there? She probably around five. Katie Perry is on the list. Oh, she is? Yeah. Okay, Katie Perry. She's on the list. I haven't heard much from her lately. It feels like she just went quiet. Not going on. Uh, yeah, well, she's doing the idle stuff.

Oh, is that? Maybe that's why. I think that's why. I'm caught up on any of that. Um, all right. If Beyonce was on the list, I'll give you a couple more because I want to get to, we, we want to get to, uh, uh, Amy. But, um, yeah, right under Mariah Carey is Rihanna with 14 number one hits. She's been, I wouldn't be able to, she goes to work, work, work, work, work, work.

That's right. Uh, Jenna Jackson. That one surprised me as well, but we, our team did come up with Jenna Jackson. Diana Ross. is on the list solo not including the work with the supreme switch um which um which i would have ruled out um how about what love got to do with tina turner a tina turner no um a lot of uh actually that's a good question i don't if if that was one of the ones on the list it was one of the ones we didn't get hmm all right she she were she only runs

barter town not singles uh that's right whatever town right that's great that's a fun one This is a fun list. It was a fun trivia question. Yeah, I agree. All right, pulling Amy in because we didn't get her on Tuesday. We're going to cram her in today. We used to do this anyway. She used to come on Thursdays, but, you know, so this wasn't that big of a stretch for us. But we're going to do that right now and do this. One of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Well, that's good because Amy's here to talk about reading. Amy Robinson, a.k.a. Red Fraggle 3. Hello and welcome back.

Oh, hello, friends. Hi. I'm glad we could do this, not scootch you out because of our dumb technical problems. That made me happy. Me too. We're locked in. Like, you know, it wouldn't be, it'd be another month before we'd roll back around to you. I know. And people got to, they got to know what to read, man. Exactly. There's people sitting out there. They're looking at People magazine for all, for all we know, because they don't have a book. That's right. And we're talking about magazines the other day, and he was expressing his surprise that there is still a print version of Wired magazine. He was like, of all the magazines, you would think would go completely digital. Wired would be the one, you know. Wired actually may be the only magazine I've purchased in the last 12 months.

It was because I was in an airport and I needed something to read on the plane. and I didn't want to watch a movie or I basically was like I just want to sit and read something magazine wise want some short form disposable disposable we still subscribe we subscribe to it for the one main reason is that it's a very nice like the quality of the cover like and this is a weird thing to like but do you remember next generation magazine Brian how yeah oh god yes yeah nice thick almost cardstocky cover I loved that I don't know why I just thought it was like like a special sort of thing about it and Wired has amazing art direction and all this other stuff so that's the reason i still do that but it's the only one i think kim gets like

some girl thing i don't know what it is we we had a subscription to uh girl thing i don't know what it is cosmopolitan or vogue probably some be a house better housekeeping or good housekeeping yeah we had a subscription to um entertainment weekly up until they shut down and then they sent us a letter saying hey we've decided to cease publication on our printed copy or printed entertainment weekly but you do still have some some time on your subscription so we've automatically moved you over to people magazine oh you should have seen the disappointment in my face and like oh that's not the same thing that's not a good alternative that's a terrible alternative because et was a in its in its prime entertainment

Weekly's a great magazine. Loved it. It was great. Yeah. It had enough snark. It was like People Magazine without fawning over celebrities. It was like, here's some facts about, here's a great interview with this director. Here's some great facts about this movie.

Here's, you know, let's talk to the people who are in this movie 25 years later and see what they're doing. But People Magazine is, oh, look what these real housewives we're wearing. Noish, no interest at all. Or they'll have some kind of story where it's like, some small town thing and people you never knew but it would be like these people found a way

to have 13 tumors on their face and still get married and it's like what is what are we doing here this is lame and I don't it's never I've never liked people like even as a kid my mom would get it

and it would be like George Pippard you know whatever whoever was like the end thing back then and it was always bad so and when I said also I tore a shit out of it to try and use it to pick up some cat puke on the carpet.

Poor Anara got sick, had a hairball. I tried to use a sheet of People magazine to her page out to clean it up. And the hairball refused. Like the hairball said, no, not that. It was repellent even to this horrible rag. And yes, I meant E.W. not E.T. I just always say it that way. E.T. is an extraterrestrial.

E.W. is Entertainment Weekly. E.T. is also entertainment tonight, which is the gag-inducing video, TV version of People magazine. Yeah, but it's got that that catchy John Tesh in there, you know, with the John Tesh. Oh, man. Do you think they originally intended, like, lyrics to be like, entertainment tonight, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Entertainment tonight. Probably, yeah. Probably. Mary Hart, that was her idea.

She sucks. Well, anyway, now that we've let everyone know how old we are, let's get into it. Hey, Amy. Before, okay, so before I get to your books, real quick, I started a book because I'm in this Dune mood, and somebody had told me, has ever read the first three Dune books, and I've considered going further, and I probably will soon, but somebody had said, hey, Scott, have you ever read Dan Simmons's Hyperion? And I went, no, I never have. I've heard of it. It was a Hugo award-winning thing, I think late 80s or something. Anyway, it's, it's, it's supposed to

supposed to be very dune-esque or you know dune inspired or a lot of a lot of similar vibes you know far future uh earth's a mess uh we're off doing weird shit now and have you know hyper drives and stasis and all this stuff and uh i got to say if you like dune i think you will like hyperion so just throwing that out to people uh if you're if you're in the dune mood like i am right now but you've read the dune and you'd rather you know just venture out to other dune inspired stuff. I think it's a doan like. It's very much a doan like it's doing it's doing the same

doing the same thing. Dune the same thing. Dune. Duneish. Yeah. It's very good. Dan Simmons, Hyperion available. I think I got it for like three bucks on Kendall. It's cheap and highly regarded. It's like one of these ones and there's like six of these books. I've only started this first one so we'll see how it goes. Anyway.

Very cool. Very cool. Yeah. So there's that never read any of the of the dune books or anything like that and i will there's a reason why and i just it's a it's a it's a we could like it's good that this thursday this is probably a good wendy topic for me it's it's a family of origin thing my dad was real into stuff like dune and whatnot but he was also and still is very very much into things like irend and always tried to get me to read Ayn Rand, and it's bad. I can't. To anybody who likes Anne Rand, my condolences.

Like, I can't, I can't. It's, you know, good on you. Go enjoy, whatever. More for you. You can have my share. Exactly. Exactly. You can.

So for me, I just have this mental block. Like, everything except Star Trek. My dad also loves Star Trek. And I've never understood. I'm like, dad, how do you? what? How do you watch Star Trek? And then you're like, what? I tried, I tried to read Atlas Shrugged, but I couldn't get it. It was boring. I was bored. It's so, yeah. No, it's not good. I read the Fountainhead. It's also not, it's not good. Yeah. So there's that. I'm sure she's for someone. It ain't us. But didn't they try to make a, they tried to do an Atlas Shrug movie and it was bad, right? Oh, they did. They did a movie. It was in three parts. My dad, we took my dad to the theater to see it because he was so excited about it. Yep.

Weird. And it was also very bad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go then. Ein Rand for you. Well, let's move on to your clips here. I've got two of them.

Which one do you want to play here first? Sure. Let's go with nonfiction first. Okay. Oh, it won't move here for some reason. Just a moment, please. The nonfiction clip. Here we go.

The fate of British cycling changed one day in 2003. At the time, professional cyclists in Great Britain had endured nearly 100 years of mediocrity. Since 1908, British riders had won just a single gold medal at the Olympic Games, and they had fared even worse in cycling's biggest race, the Tour to France. In 110 years, no British cyclist had ever won the event. Brailsford had been hired to put British cycling on a new trajectory. What made him different from previous coaches was his relentless commitment to a strategy that he referred to as the aggregation of marginal gains,

which was the philosophy of searching for a tiny margin of improvement in everything you do. Brailsford said, the whole principle came from the idea that if you broke down everything you could think of that goes into riding a bike and then improve it by 1%, you will get a significant increase when you put them all together. They redesigned the bike seats to make them more comfortable and rubbed alcohol on the tires for a better grip. They asked riders to wear electrically heated overshorts

to maintain ideal muscle temperature while riding and used biofeedback sensors to monitor how each athlete responded to a particular workout. The team tested various fabrics in a wind tunnel. They tested different types of massage gels to see which one led to the fastest muscle recovery. They determined the type of pillow and mattress that led to the best night's sleep for each rider. Just five years after Brailsford took over, the British cycling team dominated the road and track cycling events at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing. During the 10-year span from 2007 to 2017, British cyclists won 178 world championships and 66 Olympic or Paralympic gold medals and captured five Tour de France victories in what is widely regarded as the most successful run in cycling history. How does this happen?

How does a team of previously ordinary athletes transform into world champions with tiny changes that at first glance would seem to make a modest difference at best? Why does small improvements accumulate into such remarkable results? So two things. One, that guy never pauses after periods. He's really stoked to keep going. Oh, no, that's me. I did that. You edit it out for speed. Yes, I edited it for time. I do that frequently. Fair enough. All good. But also, this just sounds like the most Chuck, Chuck ass book I've ever heard a clip for. Yeah, I'm kind of interested as well. Well, okay, so, yeah, it's not actually about cycling. That was just his introduction.

introductory story. So yeah, so the name of the book is Atomic Habits by James Clear. And I found out about this book, interestingly, because my daughter actually had a really hard time last semester with keeping up with her schoolwork. She had fallen way behind on all of her stuff.

She's a junior in high school. So, you know, like it's very easy to very quickly feel like you're drowning and can never recover. And so one of her teachers, gave her this book and said, you know, I think maybe you'd find some things in this book very helpful. And the book is all about it's very real stepy, honestly.

Like I kind of picked this book for the show as a bit of a like, I don't know, maybe a little pacifier for those of us who are sad at the death of real steps. And because it's, as soon as I read it, I was like, man, this is like exactly what we talk about. in real steps it's all about making don't don't try and make if you want to change your habits if you

want to make changes in your life don't try and make some big swooping change because what's going to happen is it's not going to stink right you're you're going to get uncomfortable something's going to happen you're going to get sick one day and you're going to lose your momentum and then it's gone right but if you make small incremental changes just tiny changes here and there then you can notice really, really big differences. And that's exactly what we do in real steps. It's all about like, you know, hey, pick a habit and just try and do it every day. And if you're not able to do that, then you picked one that was too hard.

Just adjust it. There's no judgment, right? And so he gives a lot of really cool examples of how to, how to sort of keep yourself motivated, how to keep yourself interested when it's boring, you know, to continue doing the same thing over and over again. And one of the most satisfying parts of it was when he explained why it is that good habits are so hard to build, but bad habits are easy, right? Like bad habits just like accumulate without you even knowing.

And I've always wondered that. like, why is that? Why is it that the bad, the stuff that's bad for us is the stuff that we do all the time. And the reason is this, bad habits tend to reward you immediately, but then be bad for you in the long term, whereas good habits are maybe not as rewarding upfront, but the gains are long term. And so our brain thinks, oh, I want the thing that's immediately rewarding, right? I don't I don't want the thing that feels bad now, but is going to be great later. So what we have to do is we have to trick our brain into thinking that the thing that's good for us is actually fun now.

Interesting. I'm usually very skeptical of self-help books, just generally speaking, but based on what I'm seeing here in the synopsis, based on what you're saying, obviously. And also these reviews are freaking off the charts. It seems like maybe this dude's on to something. Yeah. And I mean, I'm not going to, I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass, right? Like, it's not, it's not like, oh, my God, this book changed my life. You know, it's not, it's not that. It had a lot of like, oh, that's interesting or, you know, things that I feel like I can probably go back and revisit. Like, oh, I'm having trouble, like, reestablishing this habit. Like, I wonder, you know, I can probably flip to something in the book that's going to help me there. He does do some of the cheesy, self-helpy crap that makes. me roll my eyes. Like at one point, he talks about kind of mentally reframing a thing and saying like, well, instead of saying, I have to fold the laundry today, think I get to fold the laundry

today. I'm like, bullshit. That never helped anybody. Like, bro, freaking nobody is like, I get to go to work today. Yay. That's a hard thing to do. But there is something about, there, there's a principle in in there about small stuff adds up to bigger change. And I, so I, that resonates with me, right? So if that's the focus and it sounds like it is, the things literally called atomic habits, meaning micro habits, small, small, yeah, small things. That to me, yeah, that, that rings more true than, you know, do these seven things and your life will turn around and you'll make mint like F off.

None of that is interesting to me. But you do like these little things every day, continue. improvement like that makes sense to me so this is interesting yeah and he's very he's very sort of practical and he gives a lot of like real world examples and so the like those anecdotes like the british cycling team and stuff like that like i just found this the thing the story about the british cycling team kind of cool because it was like who to thunk that like things like the pillow they slept on at night and you know what color their shorts are and stuff like that you know, like, I mean, they literally, like, they repainted the inside of the van so that they could

see where dust and whatnot had accumulated more easily so that they wouldn't get sick, you know, stuff like that. They brought in a surgeon. This is, this part was funny. I cut it out for time, but like, I thought it was hilarious. They brought in a surgeon to teach the team to how to wash their hands properly so that they wouldn't get sick as often. And I was like, these grown ass men had to be taught how to wash their hands.

why is it always men by the way the men always don't wash them if you're going to find if you go into a room and you say all right i want to make a bet brian you're a you're a gambler and you say there's 50 men here 50 women here which side will have less washed hands after a bathroom visit and you're going to say the men easily yeah it's an easy bet it's because y'all don't have like i think it's a physiological thing that goes to your brain like you guys have an external hose basically where you don't have to touch the thing that's a got wet right but we still touch but we still touch the hose and that hose I know believe me I'm not arguing against all washing your hands right right right I'm just saying like that's that's probably I could imagine like oh well I didn't really touch anything I didn't you know whereas when we got no choice like we're getting our hand is getting at least marginally damp every time we go no matter what so we're going to wash our hands because gross yeah that is that is from people I've scene and said, hey, wash your hands. I didn't touch anything.

So myself, I was like, yeah, you touched yourself. That's what you touched. That's the point is you touch yourself. Also, like that guy, not that far from the waste management, the other portion of the waste management company. So still, you've been touching things that are in that area. Go wash your hands. Yeah.

Get in there and get that done. Yep. I'm with you. All right. Well, there's your. Go take out that book. Yeah. There's your nonfiction.

Give us some fiction. Give me something that someone made up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, and my apologies, if I asked Brian, I try to double check and make sure I haven't done this book before. It surprises me that I haven't done this book before.

But, you know, I love this book and I'm excited to talk about it. So there we go. All right. Here's your clip, everybody. At the time I first realized I might be fictional. My weekdays were spent at a publicly funded institution on the north side of Indian. Minneapolis, called White River High School, where I was required to eat lunch at a particular time, between 12.37 p.m. and 1.14 p.m. by forces so much larger than myself that I couldn't even

begin to identify them. If those forces had given me a different lunch period, or if the tablemates who helped author my fate had chosen a different topic of conversation that September day, I would have met a different end, or at least a different middle. But I was beginning to learn that your life is a story told about you, not one that you tell. Of course, you pretend to be the author. You have to. You think, I now choose to go to lunch when that monotone beep rings from on high at 1237. But really, the bell decides. You think you're the painter, but you're the canvas. Wow. Yeah. Deep. Deep. Interesting. This sounds like somebody who doesn't know who they really are to me. Right. Yeah. So this book is called Turtles.

all the way down. And, um, pardon me, Dr. Calhoun, you spotted it. It is from the fault and our stars guy whose name is John Green. Oh.

And, um, yep, it is. That's where that means sounded familiar. Yeah. Yes. Uh,

so yeah, it, this is a great book and it is, I mean, it's a, it's a young adult fiction, obviously, you know,

she's talking about being in high school, which by the way, that was jarring to me the first time I went to like, uh, you know, one of those high school parent night things. And I heard what the bell sounds. like now like you you guys remember like we had a bell like an actual physical bell thing that

went you know like now they just have like this digital tone thing oh really the bell yeah oh yeah no it's so weird i'm like no it should be a bell like a like a ringing bell you know what that's funny because kim and i were just talking about this the our local PD here in the city we're in south jordan PD i think it's south jordan peter i'm not actually sure but a bunch of their they have new patrol cars and they don't do sirens anymore they do this weird like yeah it's a lower tone it's like deeper my dogs don't howl to it i don't know if that was the reason they did it but it's this new sound it's still loud and you hear it but if i'm a guy driving and i hear that i don't actually know what i'm meant to do

am i supposed to submit to the alien takeover or pull over for the cop it doesn't make you feel like you've got to pull over. You're like, you're spending more of your time thinking, well, what is that sound? Perhaps I should drive faster to get away from the thing that's growling behind me. I better get away from the sides of the road and drive right down the middle.

Yeah. And we have cops who listen to the show. Maybe they could write in and tell us what's going on with that because maybe there's something I don't know about. But anyway, sorry, back to the book. No, no, yeah. So this book is about a teenage girl with OCD and severe anxiety and just how she's you know she's also a regular girl but she has to try and navigate her life as a person with I at times debilitating mental illness and the fascinating thing about this book to me is the way it is self-referential like you hear her there talking about how she thinks she might be fictional which of course she is

but in her in the world of the book she's not but you know so she's and she's referring to there being an author which of course there is but I don't know I just felt like that was very meta and cool and

yeah yeah I love that stuff okay Turtles all the way down it's really good I really really enjoy it there's a little bit of a murder mystery in there as well or a you know not really murder mystery but more of a like just a here we got to we got to find this missing person mystery i guess um and uh yeah it's

it's really really interesting and it's um they're doing a series or is it a series or a movie it's a movie and it's coming out on max sometime this spring um and i'm really excited to see it we actually got to go uh john green came here for um scad tv fest they were doing like a whole thing for Savannah College of Art and Design. And it was like this spur of the moment thing where John Green was actually going to be here. And they were going to be showing like advanced clips of the movie and everything. So Chuck and I took the day off work and we went down there to go see it because why not? It's like a 30 minute drive.

And, you know, we were, of course, we felt like, oh, wow, we're surrounded by all these college students that were the old fogies who were like out of place. But yeah, I've read this book multiple times and I think it's a really cool way of looking at and sort of depicting and understanding people who struggle with things like generalized anxiety and OCD and things like that. It's not something like, you know, normal, neurotypical people look at that and go, what the hell is wrong with you? Just stop washing your hands or what, you know, just stop.

just stop, just stop. They can't. They cannot. They would love to, right? They would love to not, but their brain is mean to them. Yeah. Really, really mean. And I mean, Scott, I know you, you tend to have some anxiety from time to time.

So you can kind of relate to this, right? Like you understand, like, I would love to not panic, you know, to have to talk in front of people or whatever. When people say to you, hey, just don't panic. That's the dumbest. thing you can say to a person who has panicked. Yeah. Of course. Yeah.

That's like saying, you can tell I'm panicking and it makes me panic more. Because like, think about it. Would you ever say to somebody who has, who let's say is having seizures? Let's say they're epileptic. Do you say to them,

we'll just stop having seizures? Right. Have you tried not shaking undonezschexed? Yeah. That's freaking up. Yeah. That's ridiculous thing to say. Yeah.

I hate that. I mean, what they, what you should do, if it's someone you really care about is you, you hunker down with them, you hold their hand and you say, all right,

just breathe. you know, I'm here with you, everything's going to be okay. And, you know, be that kind of support. Supportive is not going, well, you know, maybe you just could not. Maybe just don't panic. Right. Yeah. It's, I think there it's, you know, are you trying to make the anxious person more comfortable?

Are you trying to make yourself more comfortable? I think it's the key there. Because if you're really trying to make yourself more comfortable, then you're the person thinking like oh well just don't do that um you know just get over it go play pickleball um which is legit like my niece who you know lost her mom and was having just like severe mental issues around it had a boss actually tell her that like you know well have you tried you know like taking up hobbies and stuff i play pickleball it was like yeah right i'm like are you effing kidding me i asked her i was like give me this guy's phone number i want to talk to him like

that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard in my life i think he's just trying to recruit another person to his uh to his pickleball team yeah exactly i heard i heard that as mic as mic double at first and that made me laugh double you know i understand why you would think that scott sounds real good actually don't don't don't tempt me with this terrible food well anyway uh this sounds great And if you thought there was another fault in his stars, well, you'll have to read this new book to see if you can find it. These are both up on quicktms.L.I and there's a whole record of our previous episodes where you can find the books that we've talked about with Amy. Amy, it's always good having you on. Always fun.

Yeah, thanks. Thanks for squeezing me in today. This was great. I apologize if there's lots of banging or anything like that in the background, if you guys are noticing. We're having our roof replaced today. Oh, fun. Replaced. I debated, yeah, I debated, like, actually going out to my car to record this, but I was like, no, whatever.

Oh, man. No, it's so minor. I heard it, it just sounded like Chuck getting angry at a video game or something and hanging on the wall. Yeah, which I could see him doing. Which I know he's prone to do as well. Yeah, I could hear that. Well, that's awesome. Good luck with your roof.

Hopefully they get it on before it rains. I don't know how this stuff works. We'll talk to you soon. Oh, and tell Chuck. Oh, what were you going to tell him? Your bike is... Keep the facial hair check. Oh.

Keep it. Yeah, it looks good on you, man. Oh, I haven't seen it. He's got a big old, big old gruffy beard go-tee thing. Amy, send that to me while we're talking because I want to see this. I've not seen Chuck's hair change or his beard change. That's amazing. Yeah.

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They're 50 years age difference. And they couldn't be more diametrically opposed music-wise either. Roger Daltry, lead vocalist of the Who, or one of the lead vocalist of the Who, celebrating his 80th birthday. And Justin Bieber, celebrating his 30th birthday. Guess what? Not going to play any covers by Justin Bieber. But I'm going to play covers of, so of course you're going to get covers of sorry and love yourself and boyfriend and baby.

But then, but then we get to the meet as showing your covers of Baba O'Reilly, Pinball Wizard, Bargain. The kids are all right. I can see for miles and more today on Coverville. Starting potentially, I have an 1130 phone meeting that could go half an hour, but if it doesn't, then normal 12 o'clock time. but between 12 and 1215 coverville will start nice guys check it out uh twitch dot tv slash coverville if you want to watch live you're going to play a game while you do it you're going to play a little i will playing um marvel snap there's brand new cards there is the um hope uh hope summer's card you know uh scott and jean gray's daughter from another timeline well um she when you put her

in a in a in a lane and you keep playing cards of that lane you keep getting more energy to play other cards. Oh. She builds up, that sounds cool. That sounds cool. To play more cards. They didn't try to jam any

Madame Webb stuff in there, did they from the movie tie-in or anything? No, no. Okay. No, they really, like,

even when Venom came out, no real Venom, or Venom 2 came out, no real Venom tie-in. They, they don't, they shrug off the Sony stuff. But they did,

you know, when Marvels came out, of course, they had some, um, some, Photon and Ms. Marvel and stuff. Yeah, they have no compulsion to keep up with Sony's output.

No. Why would they? They got their own. Why would they? Exactly. Like when that fantastic force stuff happens. How many days are we until Craven comes out? Craven. Oh, Craven. Craven, you got a lot. You know what? In some ways, Craven's got it easy because it just needs to be decent at this point. It just needs to be okay. Right. There is such a low bar right now. Like Craven's got it easy. Craven just has to not suck worse than Morbius and Man of Webb. The hard part is the general public knowing at all who Craven is. Like Marvel people will know and a few, you know, a few others might, but it's going to be, that's already a hard sale.

I mean, until Sony decides, hey, we've got these great spider characters, A, let's make better movies with them and not just use a very formulaic, well, it's not any other kind of movie, but a superhero. movie so we introduced the hero they they don't understand their new powers they make some friends and then they finally at the very end are excellently skilled at their powers and defeat the bad guy formula um as soon as they figure out a how to do that and be how to put spider man in their spider man adjacent movies yeah then then you know then we can talk yeah then what are you freaking doing i mean you got spider verse which is amazing by the way you want to hear something that really pissed me off the spider verse people we may have brought us up, but the Spider-verse show, movie makers.

The people behind the, the, the, across the spiderverse series. That whole thing. They approached Warner Brothers about doing a similar take, not a similar take, but a, you know, their style or whatever on Batman Beyond. On Batman, yeah, oh, and Batman Beyond? Yeah, it was Batman Beyond. They were going to animate a Batman Beyond, perfect for this, 100% perfect. They even had, how cool would have that been.

They had concept art, spec work and all this stuff that's now been shown, like you can see it publicly. It looks insanely cool. And Warner Brothers turned it down Because they suck That does suck That's money in the bank dude If people find out that this is like

Oh the Spiderverse people did it I mean that thing's about to win a freaking another Oscar It's absolutely gonna win Unless the Miyazaki film The Boy in the Heron beats it That's the only that I think is the only contender That could take down the incredible Across the Spiderverse

They keep doing this They're like oh this might be Miyazaki's last film finally He might, this is his real retirement and then they give him an award and then he comes back and does another one. Right. It's like he's never going to quit. He's in his, what, 80s, I think and he's still working.

Well, anyway, let's get to this story about a guinea pig. Sure. We'll test this, let's test this story on people and see how it goes. Yeah, let's see what we're this workshop in it. Because it's a guinea pig. Because it's a guinea pig. It's like a test, yeah, exactly. You're the audience, you're the guinea pig.

All right. If you're looking around the room and you don't see a guinea pig, it's because you're the guinea pig. You were it the whole time. A guinea pig to become father of 400 after breaking into female enclosure. Oh, my lord. So it's the Nick Cannon of guinea pigs. Yeah.

Our second Nick Cannon mentioned in one day, but never mentioned prior to this. Yeah, 12 episodes or 12 years. 25 or 2600 episodes. Yeah, 12 years of TMS, never brought him up once. Today, he gets it twice. staff at Hafton or sorry Hatton County Country World in Warwickshire

That's awesome Understand that they suddenly Or sorry couldn't understand Where they suddenly had a hundred pregnant guinea pigs on their hands Until they realized one of the male rodents had managed to escape his enclosure And infiltrate the female only enclosure Uh the note I say they noticed the exhausted father to be

Now nicknamed Randy I love that so much that's that's fantastic of course his name is randy yeah not to be confused with our randy it's a very different kind of randy anyway by the way i think it's just work workshire i don't think you pronounce that second w oh it's not warwickshire i think it's and zoey is it is that right i heard of say l-o-l on the pronunciation scott is it just workshire oh maybe so the dot second w just gets I like the idea of Warwick, except that's not Warwick, is it like Warwick, is it like Warwick? Yeah.

So in my head, I think, so that is like that. You pronounce it, yeah, you pronounce it Warwick, but his name. Is it spelled Warwick? Isn't it spelled Warwick, Davis? Might be. I don't know. We're so used to Dion Warwick. Look, it's fine.

That's the problem. Speaking of, that, that's twice now. we brought up somebody connected with when Dionne Warwick was the aunt of what's her name Whitney Houston right look at all these connections today it's crazy that's right yeah look at that

it all leads back to our it all leads back to the the women with the most number one singles in Billboard history that's right well anyway this guy got in there and he's been he's been busy the Animal Park which recently had 300 males and female

male and female guinea pigs is now readying itself for a a population boom in the next couple of weeks. They'll never forget this. Manager Richard Crad Doc, or is it Craddock? Probably Craddock. One of our male guinea pigs managed to find its way into the female enclosure and had a very good time by the looks of it, he says.

We suspect a child. A bunch of little cigarettes all over the cage. Oh, yeah, all that. Used condoms everywhere. They didn't work. Right. Yeah, they're all broken. Just leaky used condoms.

We believe the newly named Randy could have impregnated up to 100 female pigs, which have littered, or sorry, have a litter of about four. So if you do the math, we could be expecting quite a baby boom. So, 400 possible babies. Wow. So, Randy. Coming up this spring at Hatton Country World, free guinea pig with ticket. Yep.

Just come to Warwickshire? That's right. Borkshire. Borkshire? Workshire. How many say it. Let's see. we got time for this one Cambridge academic this is another British story

look at us staying in wow look at us it's a living our living our news across the pond that's right we love you would post-Atlantic friends that we used to hate and then escape from but now like again Cambridge academic escapes toilet after eyeliner and or using eyeliner and cotton now when I say toilet I don't mean they were in a like here in the States in actual see what they call a to you see whether what the English call a toilet you

you see is the room that contains the commode what we call a toilet you see yeah we might call it a bathroom or a restroom here in the states right you guys for some reason are just like i'm going to use the toilet you mean the whole room when you say that yeah and they don't say toilet paper they say bog roll that's right bog roll for your bum for your fanny bum or whatever different thing you say well it's either for your fanny or for your bum scott well if you go in the right direction why not both, I say. Anyway, if you're agile. A university academic was trapped in the bathroom of a medieval tower for seven hours and escaped using eyeliner and a cotton bud.

This is some big-time, what do you call him? MacGyver. Big-time MacGyver stuff. University of Cambridge academic Dr. Christina Ilko, I think. I can't tell what those two vertical lines. It's probably Ilko. It's probably the first one would have to be a capital I. the second will have to be a lowercase L.

English, dude. What have we done? These Latin letters, they're bad. Well, she's, and that's, and looking at her name, Eastern European, possibly Hungarian. Yeah, her name is K-R-I-S-Z, Tina. That Z combination that you see every once in a while. Very weird. Anyway, resides in the former Queens College Room of the 16th century philosopher Erasmus.

That's kind of cool. The historic tower has thick walls, heavy wooden doors, and no window in the bathroom. room, or we might call it the toilet. Dr. Ilko, age 33, said she feared she would be trapped for day. She believed the latch on the heavy wooden bathroom door had been broken by a plumber working on her shower. The door

had been locked behind her on Thursday, and the room was not, sorry, and the room was not due to be cleared, or cleaned, rather, until the following Monday. Dr. Elko said, quote, I was trying to remember how a person can survive on just water and hoping I wouldn't die there.

I hope she doesn't mean toilet water. I really don't. Yeah. Right? You don't want that. No. It says, if people came looking for me, would they check the bathroom or would they have to wait until Monday?

I tried to bang on the shower head on the door, breaking it with brute force and shout for help, but nothing worked and no one could hear me. Anyway, she ended up using them. The whole point is, you know, what's missing from this story? How she got out of the toilet using eyeliner and cotton. I know, they really save it until later. Okay.

Let's see. The eyeliner was used. Three pages down after a bunch of listicles and stuff like that. Yeah. It says the eyeliner was used to push down the latch and made a hook out of the earbud after seven hours she was able to unlock the door. That's a long time, though. Seven hours is a long time. That's pretty impressive, though.

And that's, you know, she's thinking. Yeah, and look at her. She looks like a nice academic lady. You know, look at her. Yeah, she just looks like, here I am studying books and I got reading to do. Oh, yeah. You know, has that look to her. I like it.

All right, we're taking a break. When we come back from this break, we're going to talk to Wendy, my sister, The Therapist. We have an email for her to address, among other things. So stick around for that. That'll come after this song, Brian is prepared. Well, let's go to a band from San Diego. Big thanks to NC Records and Airshot Media for this.

San Diego alternative band called Los Saints. We might have played something from them a couple of years ago. I'll have to look back and see. But this is the first single off of their upcoming debut. full length. I think they've had EPs before. This a full-length album is coming out this summer and this is the first single off of it.

The song is called Faded. Here are Los Saints. Hey Hey Want to see What you say When is that I remember me Want to see

What you know When is that I remember me Hey Goose Go I want you What you're kidding me What you're stated

I want you Can't me What you're saying Hey What you see What you said? And you left out of the room What you see?

What you know? Oh, you're looking at me. I want you looking at me. What you're saying? What you're faded? I want you to be looking at me. When you say it, why it's been, I want you looking at me.

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A nice quick song. Under Two Minutes, a song called Faded. It's the first single from their upcoming album, which is coming out this summer called Certified. Nice. If I ever have a sitcom, this is my laugh track. I'm going to play that every time. That's my high speed. I don't know what the heck happened. I don't know how that's going on. I love that. Was that Mel Brooks? It was Mel Brooks. This is the pen? Right with a pink. Yep, he was a, it was like a pin. For Bick or something?

Yeah, it was like Bick or somebody like that, I think. Yeah. Before a Unibal, I know, but it would have been like the 60s or something like that. That guy, we shouldn't bring up his name. He could die any minute, right? Oh, God, I know. We don't want that. I was so bummed with Richard Lewis, but man, you see recent episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm,

and poor guy was just, he was really stiff when he walked and, poor guy. It was looking rough. I mean, he had a form of Parkinson's, but it was one that manifested more in, like, like, stiffness and I forget what they call that. There's another word for that. It was very rigid. But, yeah, I'm glad they got to finish out the series before he passed. You too, yeah. But maybe, man, maybe they should have had so many comedic jokes about, well, when I die, when I die, you're going to go into my will.

one of my favorite things about all that or you know it's hard to have a favorite thing about a death of somebody but um let me find this here i sent it to my kids in our group text it was uh larry david's reaction to finding out that um richard lewis had passed and see if i can find it come on i have so many pictures of kids in here what's going on that's really what your group chat is for so you can have more pictures of kids damn it i can't find it all right well when i find it i'll share it it's very good yeah oh let's get a Wendy in here, let's, uh, let's waste no more time. Well, not wasting it. You know, whatever. It's all good time spent, but it's time for her. She has to have her say. And, uh, we're going to be the platform for it. So here we go. I'll explain the situation to Wendy. Don't worry. Oh, look who it is. It's my sister, Wendy. She is here from the Twin Cities, where it used to snow in the winter, but now it doesn't do that anymore. I don't know what it does there now. Uh, how do you feel about that, Wendy? How does it feel not to have a winter, a proper winter? Hello? Can you hear us?

oh there she is oh there you're there now hi hi hi sorry i was something weird uh it feels great it feels like it's mid july why why what happened how come there were there were big cold snaps in this country but they side swiped you guys as if you never existed and prior to this like in the entire history of the states it feels like you were the hot zone yeah you were the main target so i don't understand. It's like, is it apocalyptic to everybody there? They all like, uh-oh. And the state

identity revolves around complaining about weather. And so everyone's complaining it's too warm, which is amazing. Because, you know, but either way, you're, you kind of love it, but you're also a little horrified. It's pretty wild. Like, it was 70 degrees on Sunday.

What? And we barbecued. Wow. And I'm telling you, Minnesota's barbecue when it's 45 so that's not that's not weird right but 70 that's great we're not even I mean it snowed again yesterday like we're freaking cold you are having our weather and we are having I don't know Albuquerque's weather I don't know his weather this is this is a weird person's weather Albuquerque maybe Flagstaff Arizona is what you're getting and next year I will complain to death when it's a thousand times the opposite and so I've adopted my new home a motto which is

complain about it either way you back you've got Acclimated. I like that. That's good. Well, it's good to have you here. We're going to read an email. Of course, that's what we do on therapy Thursdays. Wendy's a real therapist. Helps people with real problems all the time. She comes on here on Thursdays and helps you with yours. And we got an email from somebody we're going to call N. And I will just read this thing and we'll get going. Hi, Wendy. I'm a fan of your segment on TMS and I get a lot out of it every time you're on it. Well, we only ever have it when you're on it. The same is the best When Wendy's involved Yeah, when she's here It's a great segment Anyway It says if you read this on the show

I would be stoked But I also want to get this off my chest right now I am a 36 year old father Of a nine year old girl We'll call her G And I for sorry And I divorced Divorced from her mother

Devoiced That's when you get kicked off the voice That woman is devised I sorry I divorced from her when my daughter was only nine months old and we got a 50-50 custody with no problems. I found a new partner.

Oh, that was weird. Did you hear that? I was weird. What was that? I don't know. Something on Wendy's in. I found a new partner when G. was about two and eventually led to her moving in

and getting married just this past year. Things between G's mother and I were fine and amicable, striving to co-parent in the best of our abilities. Eventually, her mother got a new partner, had a new child with this man shortly after the big. was born. They also split up, resulting in her moving out to her own place and having to care for two kids with different dads. Recently, my daughter has been telling us that her mother is mean to her, often being rough with her and saying hurtful things to her and the baby. Specific

examples being called out for her or calling her artwork trash. How could you do that to a kid? Oh my gosh. That makes me maddened anything. Anyway, making her feel guilty and in trouble saying she's stupid and an instance where she pinched her to get her to take a photo on Halloween. I want to know more about that. I also noticed her mom doesn't make a lot of efforts to see her regularly. And even though we're legally at 50-50, it feels more like 80-20. It's gotten to the point where G no longer wants to go to her mom's house and is starting getting much closer to her stepmom, my wife, as a result.

It's been a lot to process over the last few months and G. often confides in me saying how much she loves my wife and I have a full house of love and happiness and that we don't fight at all. She asked me if her mom was ever mean to her. And while I spare, I'll spare you the details. I do talk honestly about how we couldn't, or sorry, we just couldn't get along. I think I want to take her to therapy, but I just wanted to hear what else I could be doing to support my daughter through this. I have bad anxiety. I'm also honestly terrified of confronting her mother about it because I don't, sorry, I don't know what to expect on a legal standpoint and the trauma of forcing my daughter to go through a nasty court

battle. For extra content or context, G's mother also had several kids with several dads and was mean and abusive towards them. But now a picture perfect grandma acting like nothing ever happened. Thank you, says N. So there's a lot there. I hate this one just for the girl. I just want to smack somebody. But that's not the point here. The point here is how do we help this little kid and do it so that the dad can also be helpful here. in this situation. So, Wendy, where do you want to go? How do you want to do it?

Yeah. I think he, when he said G's mother, I think he means the grandmother, right? The mother, yes, exactly. The mother of his baby mama. Correct. Maybe mama, clearly. Right. Okay.

Baby grandma. So a couple of things. This is like a text. book of how generational stuff gets transferred, right? We've got grandma behaving this particular way, daughter having repeating history, maybe a slightly better version of that. And then now your child is the one

who's third in line of this sort of behavioral streak. And one thing to for just generally understanding this is no one's doing this stuff on purpose. Everyone's got something going on that would have led to this. And so I don't know what grandma's upbringing was, but I'm going to guess it was worse in whatever particular way. And so though there is slight improvements through generations, when no one really gets the help they need,

it just kind of can continue, right? So here we have a nine-year-old who is at that sort of just the edge of tweendom. And tweendom is a freaky place. because so much of your energy goes outward to figuring out where you belong and who is, you know, who am I in the context of, you know, as your brain changes and you can now think more abstractly and you have, you know, everything isn't just black and white and clear cut. There's nuances and all those things.

So this is a big stage for any child, but especially. when you're faced with all this complexity of these adults in your life, right? So we, she is our most important concern here. But like I always say, with the old airplane analogy, you got to put the mask on your face and then you help the nine-year-old with the mask on their face, right? So the thing that caught my eye is that N said, I have bad anxiety. So my first question is, have you done anything about your anxiety? because the mask on your face makes it possible to do so many more things that you'll

need to do to help your kid. And this is probably every parent who's listening is just like, well, when will I have time for that? You know, like I get it. I really do. But if your anxiety prevents you from any kind of confrontation, either it has to be a big confrontation, which you'll be a, you know, you'll push it until it's so enormous you have to do something rather than what you could do if maybe you were managing your anxiety a little bit better.

So I'm going to just start there. Like, can you explore a little of what you can be doing so your confidence is a little bigger or you feel like, and sometimes that might even be talking to your lawyer for a minute for just a minute because it's very expensive. But just finding out like, all right, what are my, what's the actual thing? that would happen if I asked, try to get more custody, et cetera. Because that's kind of what he's referring to here is what if I do some legal route to have my daughter sort of essentially taken away or not have to be spending time with.

By the way, if it's a $300 an hour lawyer, that's $5, you'll pay him for that second or for that way. Yeah, so it's about five bucks. A minute for that minute. You can do a whole minute, right? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. And you would just, or you could, you know, half the time you could Google some of this

to understand, like, what are my actual rights and what's been sentenced on. It did not say they were married in some states that matters or doesn't matter. And so you just want to know. I'm sure. Yeah. And so that being said, just your own mental health and strength and your functionality is going to be really important. And that of your wife as well, who is playing the role of the surrogate mom at this point, right? making sure you guys are good is going to be important.

Right. Okay. But then when we look at what's actually happening here with the 50-50 and it's more like 80-20, here's where oftentimes in cases like this, you know, you go back and stoke the fire of a legal fight and it wakes up mom to then fight back and want more than she probably is capable of doing, right? At this point, she's showing you what she's capable of doing, which is. is 80-20. And no court is going to give a 50-50 custody unless they can prove she is abusive and it will be costly and put everyone through a lot to even give you 80-20.

Now, that said, we don't know, and this is my overarching question. We can't obviously tell this person what to do, but recognizing that having a therapist or a school counselor or whoever you can also connect as. a support to her means you have this extra person who also cares deeply about what your kid is going through, knows how the system works, and would be able to sort of identify if her physical, psychological, I mean, she's clearly psychologically in danger there, but not to the point where a court might take her away from her parent. And so you want some other eyeballs that are not the anxious dad helping the kids here

as well. So yes, let's find somebody to help and get other sort of people who see this stuff all the time and can know. And here's the thing. I know this kid is probably not telling him everything. Might be. I don't know. But often what I have found when I worked with kids years ago is that they would tell me stuff. Of course, they would never tell their parents. Because it's so important for them to protect everybody. And so this kid's protecting dad, protecting stepmom, also protecting mom, even though she's frustrated, because you will protect even a person who abuses you while you feel like you have no choices as a kid.

So all these burdens on this little nine-year-old, what we want to do if we think about it and like sort of a strategy here is, how do we reduce the burdens on her shoulders? So dad's anxiety is one of the burdens. Sorry to be blunt about that. But it is. It is. Moms, immaturity and problematic, all the things, a massive burden on this kid. So what we need is supports that help alleviate that burden.

And so, dad, doing some stuff about your anxiety would be one of those. Getting a professional person involved where she can just relax and say the things she needs to say and start to process. And she's at an age where it can be more verbal. there's still a lot of play therapy that can be done. Like, you want to find somebody who's good at this. And feel free to email me. And I can help you navigate how to find somebody in your community that would fit some of these descriptions that I'm talking about. And so we have that happening.

And then just a conversation with the lawyer of like, hey, I take her to court, maybe just to clarify some stuff. I take her to court to get full custody. What would that even look like? and really in the best case scenario you're probably not going to get it right you there has to be a lot of abuse typically yeah but I think you've got a document I mean at this point document everything whether or not you end up using it or have to use it I feel like at this point just document everything capture screenshots of text messages or anything that you can that's that's written it sounds like it's a lot of verbal unfortunately yeah

Which is a much harder. Right. And the thing about that, Brian, that's a really, really important point, that document everything, keep track of, you know,

whatever your daughter says, write it down. Here's the thing. But you are not an abuse investigator. You are not the police. You are not a social worker. So for you to try to ask her questions, to get more information is useless

in court. It's useless in a lot of ways. And what it does is it makes you less trustworthy for her. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can imagine the temptation, right? To be like, she's crazy. What'd she do today? Right. Exactly. Here, let me get this little pocket record or get my phone out and record this. Tell me what she did today. And that, you know, that that backfires with trust on the dad then as well. And in very big ways. And that's why when I say manager anxiety, I'm kind of referring to some things like that, where it gets more tempting, the more scared you are to do things that are probably not in your best interest or hers. So, yeah, documenting things, think of it in terms of just...

Is that the documenting things also, I know, obviously, helpful, potentially helpful, if you can in a court case, but probably also helpful to a therapist, right? To be able to say, here are some things that we, you know, that she's said. And the therapist, it's going to be less like, I don't know, can we verify this information? But it's going to be obviously... Yeah. If you say it, of course, it means something. Yeah. Yes. And you definitely want somebody who is, I mean, anyone who's working with a child with two households in clinical ways is usually pretty versed in court stuff and custody battles. And they're definitely therapists that don't want anything to do with that. So you want somebody who can just be who's comfortable enough with that because they're experienced enough with that. because if it comes down to it, that may be what you need to do in order to protect your child.

But you do need other eyeballs. And it's just too much to navigate using skills with this person who no one has the skills to actually navigate. Right? It's really, it's really tricky. And nor should a nine-year-old have those skills yet. But that said, I was just thinking maybe even in a broader context of, you know, what does, what can we? help her with, right?

Because you're, you're describing this, like, where did it go? Sorry. I was thinking of last weeks. Oh, he doesn't describe much about how she's responding. Like, is she anxious? Is she struggling in school? It's more about, right? Did I miss that?

See. Yeah, he doesn't say much about how she's handling it. Yeah, it's just getting close to the stepmom. Yeah, just, yeah. Yeah. I mean, best I can gather from that is because she's got these two examples, one that seems to be more caring and not abusive. Yeah. It would make sense. She would gravitate toward the more caring adult. Right.

Well, because what I'm seeing too, sorry, I was kidding. My phone flipped up and it went to last weeks and I was like, whoa, I missed this whole section on diarrhea. We're like needing to be near toilets. Because for, I mean, it's not in here, but it would be interesting to know how is she responding because if this kid is telling you, hey, mom's doing this, this sucks. I hate it. I want to spend more time with you guys and getting closer to stepmom. But she's not having any struggle in school. She's not overly anxious. She's just sort of, you know, just giving you information. That's interesting as well. Is she complaining of stomach aches? Is she, you know, what are her symptoms? it's not in here, which makes me think her symptoms might not be real obvious, if there's any. Because sometimes a kid is metabolizing it differently than another kid might. And so maybe she's like sort of used to this is who my mom is. And yeah, it's escalating because there's other kids involved now. And she's already maybe not super duper attached to her mom in some ways.

And so you want someone to help assess that. Because if it's all hidden and pushed down and you don't know about it, that's not what we want, right? But also, we don't want to, you know, pathologize a kid who is, is handling it in certain ways. We just want to make sure it's healthy and she feels supported, right? Right. Yeah, the legal stuff I can't obviously talk about it. Sure. Like, with any kind of degree of certainty, but I just don't do know a court will do their darkness to keep access to parents. And so it's got to be pretty bad. And so sometimes working with a lawyer or getting good advice from a therapist to help how you ought to navigate that. And maybe we just enjoy the 80-20 and we build her up to be really resilient in that 20%

she's with mom. And at some point she decides that's not what she wants to do and she legally can make that decision. So there's a long road ahead still. We can say something, Brian? Oh, I was going to say, yeah. Is there any, not knowing this situation. further than what we've heard here. Is there any, is it worth trying to talk to the biological mom

and say, you know, she's reacting to this. Our daughter is reacting to this. She's having a real problem with this. I know, you know, it's probably really tough for you. Would you consider getting therapy just to improve the relationship between you and your daughter? Or do you think she'd be totally like, just hearing what we hear about the girl's mother might be like, yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not going to do that. Right. Well, and I am, yeah, that's a really great question. I think the, the things I have seen, often it's a child having problems in the school notices and a teacher who is paying attention, you know, refers them to the school counselor or whatever. And then there is a, hey, your kid needs some stuff. And so mom or dad will comply when

normally they wouldn't because it's coming from a third party. So I'm assuming. So, yeah, so having it come from the school, if it comes from someone would be better than having to come from the husband or the ex-husband or the father. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, even just his line, I have bad anxiety and I'm honestly terrified of confronting her mother.

You know, we know that there's a reason for that and it might be she's not reasonable. Well, she keeps having, I mean, the one thread here is that this is now two cases at least of her having a baby and then almost immediately leaving. Like, there's almost

immediately a divorce and now it's twice that that's happened i mean that's that seems like a pattern one time's like okay well wrong wrong match didn't work whatever and even said it seemed like it was a pretty good 50-50 arrangement and and fine and whatever but as the daughter got older things got weird and now she's in the same boat again with somebody else and i don't know there's there's something something hefty going on on that side of it yeah yeah but but that's not really the point right we can't tell her we can't fix that lady we've got to fix this. And that's no one, that is no one's job,

but you still are having to work with who it is. So rather than, so Brian, your point's a really good one. If someone is just having a hard time and is also mature enough to manage. It's receptive enough. Yeah.

And cares enough about the kid, right? Like, you know, they genuinely want what's best from the kid. It's hard to say that that's accurate. And this isn't like, this is a person's capacity. I always see it that way. don't see it as like, oh, it's a bad mom.

I see it as... Whether they want to or not, are they able to, physically able to? Yeah. And also just emotionally, the level of volatility, and we can look at grandma and go, okay, well, we can see childhood after childhood in this sort of generationally not, you know, being raised by immature parents, if I tie it back to last week's book. And so, finding a way to thread that needle is tricky and... you know, I think it's helpful to get some support in doing that.

And it's just so you kind of have a plan and know what you're doing. And really, a lawyer might say, and I've just seen this a couple times where they're like 80, 20 is the best you would ever get. So let's enjoy that. And then we just make sure we do what's in her best interest. So I would, I want to switch just to one thing for the nine-year-old. You know how I love girls on the run. That was my first thought.

like this girl needs girls on the run. Sure. Or any kind of programming. What I love about girls are on the run is it's very evidence-based and amazing. But it's also this where she's getting community and support and like she'll be more mature than her mother in a couple years, right? That kind of stuff where it's just psychosocial, emotional support and growth and skills, right, that are going to just build her ability to navigate having her mom behave

this way. Then the stepmom is this awesome, like buffering influence or mitigating influence of connection and some of those things she needs from a mother. And so making sure that relationship is safe and healthy is also great and important. And maybe overall, just some empathy for how hard this is to have this little creature that you love so much and you can't control this other major influence in her life. Just no, I'm sad to say it's not the first and it will not be the last, but to figure out how to get yourself the support you need to do that. I think so often we parent alone, the adage that America hates parents feels true. There's just not a ton of support if your family can't do that supporting. And that's why often people will

over-rely on bad influencing kinds of family or it's all the daycare I can get is staying with your crazy. Angry mom. Yeah. Yeah. Or your angry mom or there's just like there's a lot of things it can strap someone into feeling like they're alone and that they have the best they can do is harming their kid. And so recognize there are supports. There are programs. There are you are not alone. You will not do you don't have to navigate this on your own. And your anxiety is the warning here. Like this is important. So rather than anxiety getting to take over the show, we want anxiety to be, it's just the alarm bell saying stuff's got to happen here. We got to do some things. And so it's going to take some courage. It's going to take some work. Yeah, but you're

not alone. And you can do this. Sounds like a lot. And one day you're going to have a 20 year old kid thanking you obsessively for being the bond and the connection and safety that she has been. She'll still have to navigate that mom as long as she's alive and even after. So we just want to equip her to do it. Yeah. And in some ways, you have like an advantage here. And I don't mean to say, well, you know, I'm not saying you're gaming the system, but you are going to be the parent that is the hero at the end of this. She comes to and trusts.

Yeah, and all you have to do, she has a problem. All you have to do is care about her. And you do, clearly. And then these other ideas that Wendy's got are the next step. But if you start with that, you're golden. Like you've got an opportunity here

to not only make things better for her and to improve her life, but as time goes on and then you're going to need the support, she's going to be there for you in a way that you know that you're going to want so yeah i'm not saying the baby in the situation because i don't know if the new or if the ex the second ex-husband whatever the father of the baby has the same kind of support structure that that can make sure that that baby gets what it needs when when it's old enough to i hope so to to need it yeah i hope so

because that's you're right there's a whole other kid involved in this that we can't even The nine-year-old, we can help the baby, who knows. Yeah. Well, let us know. Follow-ups are always encouraged here on Therapy Thursday. And speaking of which, TherapyThursdays.com is a place you can go and contact Wendy directly. In fact, she requested one of those today. So go there and do that today.

Also, there's stuff coming from there. There'll be announcements and things. Probably nothing to make yet, right? We're just, you know. We've got to gear up, but good things coming. have some fun things I've done with some clients like what do they call beta testing and just so exciting and fun so I'm excited so people yeah sign up I will only use your email when it is time to announce it but I'm creating kind of a new email list from real steps to this

so go to Therapy Thursdays.com put your email in yep therapy Thursdays with an S and sometimes people say, I don't see it. I'm like, put an S on there. Oh, there it is. So you'll find it one way or the other. Wendy is always a pleasure talking, or pleasure, as dad would say, talking to you. And may your week be full of people with less problems than usual, I guess. Bye now. All right. There she goes, everyone. Good stuff as always. And I hope that works out. Speaking of dads who love their kids last night, I won't give too many names, but I'll say little Sarah came by the house. listener. I don't know if he wants me to say their names on the thing, so I won't do it. But brought our Girl Scout cookies that we ordered from them. Oh, nice. They delivered them. It was so sweet. So thank you for that. She seemed like an awesome kid. It's very expensive because they actually live in Michigan. It was very nice of them to do that. Coming all the way here from Detroit. Man, what a kid.

So far, which cookies is your favorites? I haven't eaten anything yet because I'm really not supposed to, but Kim and the girls all have enjoyed so far everything. Carter, what's the best cookies that girl brought? Oh, the lemon ones? I'm going to have to cheat. I'd say the adventurefuls. I think they're the new business. Had one of those yesterday

and whee! It's really good. Tell me what's in those. It's a chocolate. It's like a brownie flavored cookie. Still a crisp, crumbly cookie. But then with like a little disc of caramel and chocolate drizzled across. the top oh that sounds all right like a little like a little chocolate and caramel uh brownie sold i'm sold yeah yeah and small and nice little little small size i don't know how it's like only

a thousand calories per but uh yeah how about uh coconut anywhere near it because i don't like coconut i don't mind the coconuts the uh the what it's not the samoas right sammoas yeah i hate those ones yeah can't eat them tina gets those every single time it's like all right that's fine those are fine blah oh put the brownie ones in the freezer we do with that with the thin mince. Oh, I like that idea with the brownie ones in the freezer. Okay. Okay, I will. That's a great. Who said that? That's a great idea. I love that. It was Tom Norm. Tom Norm. Tom Norm. Thank you for your norm thing that you did.

Tom Norm. Let's do a couple of quick things here. I got a swag update for our folks coming to Vegas. And depending on how many tickets sell, some of you who are getting swag only, although that's not up for sale yet. But we're trying to be a little smarter about how we do this this year. But anyway, the swag update is this. I can tell you what's in there now. Okay, so what's coming with your tickets? Still should have your tickets, get your tickets, no matter what. But here is the swag list.

If I can pull it up, Scott, you're a little late here with the thing. There we go. This is going to come with a one-of-a-kind this year only challenge coin, double-sided, beautiful challenge coin. Yeah. Based on this year's key art. Also, some stickers that I'm working on with a new provider. And Carter's helped me with those as well, which is nice.

A couple of prints. of course a bag for all of this we got these big tumbler things that are like they're like the fancy Stanley ones but they're going to have a big old TMS Vegas thing on the side of it

and they're big the big big ones so when you're in Vegas you have no excuse to stay hydrated just always be drinking out of that thing yeah definitely and do that for sure no picture of Stanley on that one I feel like my idea got snubbed it's a great idea it's just these aren't

actual Stanley mugs and I didn't want to get in any kind of like legal expectation trouble. You just put a picture of Stan Lee. No, I get the joke. You don't have to worry about people from Stanley coming after you. Yeah, still a good joke either way. But yeah, we'll see what's on there. That part hasn't been finished yet. So maybe Brian's right.

Maybe it's a maybe it should be a Stanley logo. Glasses and a cheesy mustache will do it. Yeah, we might do that still. Anyway, that, you just get a bunch of Stan Lee stickers and you can put them on there. That may work as well. Coasters are coming with. this some very cool coasters again based on the key art and uh we're working on enamel pins as well uh that one is the only one that's just sort of hanging out there waiting for proofs and and

uh and costs but i think that'll be there as well so it'd actually be by the end of this thing it'll be our biggest swag bag ever and uh very excited for them the umlers with stainless steel interiors by the way these are nice ones i've already filled half of my living room and i don't know how we're driving these to Vegas but we're going to find a way so uh maybe we have to buy a truck I don't know. Like a U-Haul or something? Oh, jeez. It's going to be big.

But anyway, watch for more. I'll put pictures up soon. That part's not done, but I want to at least let people know what they can expect. If you haven't gotten your ticket yet, head on over to quick TMS. Or, sorry, VivaTMSVegas.com. And there is a link right there. You can find it on the regular frog pants store as well. All right.

Some stuff for the weekend. Brian has a show today around noon to 1215, somewhere in that range. Or as you put it at 12. Noon. I don't know why I put the extra O in there. It's good. It's worth the extra O. The Who and Justin Bieber. Oh, yeah, that's right. I cannot believe he's only 30. I could have sworn he's been 30. I remember when he was just a little 25-year-old peeing in mop buckets. Walking around with hookers in South America or whatever he was doing.

Throwing rocks at his neighbor's windows or whatever it was. Yeah, and now he has a sorry song for all that, I guess. That's what's for it. That's right. I actually kind of like that song. Anyway, I do, too. There's a cover. There's a brand new, is it a cover? Well, no, the cover.

I may be playing a cover by the 1975 of that song. I was going to say, yet another case of a cover. I didn't know it was a cover. Yeah, no. No, as far as I know, none of his hits are covers. Pretty sure none of them were written by him. Yeah, all of his hits are written by Ghost Writers, I think. Right, yeah.

Core tonight, 4 p.m. Mountain, be here for that. I think it's just Bowenai tonight because John is moving house, as the British would say. and he's going to be tied up with that. But Bo and I have a lot to talk about. We had a Microsoft event. We got some other big stuff to cover, including games we played. So be there at 4 p.m. Mountain for Core.

Guess the connection tomorrow, 9 a.m. Per usual. Some prizes and fun. For usual. Yeah. Prizes and fun. Six songs. What do they have in common? You tell me and you win a prize.

Yep. Twitch.TV slash Coverville for that as well. A couch party shortly after that, 10 a.m. We're doing another Firefly episode. So we're catching up on that. And that'll be 10 a.m. tomorrow here at the frogpants. TV domain, giving you all these domains just to confuse everybody today. Play Retro tomorrow, 1.30, same place.

And also some Unreal Tournament 2K4 play after that. So if you want to stick around for that, we'll be playing. Unreal Tournament 2K, 4 play. Okay. Yeah, four play. Four play. Gotcha. Yes.

And then Film Sack, Sunday, one of my personal favorites of the Western genre. Or what I would call the modern Western genre, even though this is 84, it still kind of marks the beginning of a new age of Westerns for me. Anyway, I love Silverado. I can't wait to talk about it. We're doing film sack on Silverado. So gear up for that. All right, that's it.

We got a couple of quick things to read here. A little education on the x-ray dude and his wife. We talked about the guy who invented x-rays. He tested on his wife. I made some flippant comment about him. Did they check her for cancer or something like that? Yeah, right, yes. And boy, howdy, did this go places.

This is from Kelly, who says, hey, scatter and berms. These are x-ray, or brems, sorry, these are x-ray terms. Brems. I don't know what a Brem is, but whatever. Kelly here, regarding the pond champion. Raining. Oh, raining pond. Oh, this is Kelly the winner.

Oh, right. The Pond champion, yes. I knew this. I wanted to. I'm still waiting, by the way. I don't have a box big enough to ship his prizes, so I'm waiting for an Amazon delivery that's got a box big enough to put these in. Do you have anything coming that you can, like, put it in?

I hope so. I don't know. Between Tristan and his girlfriend and Tina and me. It seems like we get five or six Amazon boxes a week, so it's got to be something. Yeah, there'll be something in there. We get this one for dog food. That's huge, but probably too big for what you need. Yeah.

We could bury a body up. I get a blue apron box, actually, is what it might end up. Yeah, that's not bad. That's not bad. Just don't include the freezing gel or whatever it is. All right. It says here, blah,

blah, so Scott just mentioned something about Rodegen's wife getting hand cancer after she experimented by taking the first x-rays of her hand.

The first known death due to exposure to x-rays was Edison's lab assistant named Clarence Daly. Or Dolly, Daly. He first noticed cancerous sores appearing on his hands

and after several attempts to treat them with skin grafts, he eventually had to have both hands amputated. Unfortunately, the level of exposure was so extensive, he had to have both arms amputated as well.

But the cancer had already spread to his other organs. He died pretty painful death. Edison then quit doing any research on x-rays, famously saying, quote, don't talk to me about x-rays. I am afraid of them, unquote. Thank you again, Brian, for the work you put into setting up the pond, and I look forward to defending my title.

Agreed on both counts. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't really know the history of all that. And then Edison said, bam, forget x-rays. Let's go on to electrocuting elephants. Yeah. Let's move on to that. Yeah, I'd rather kill an elephant than my assistant or something.

I don't know. People die when we innovate. It happens. You know, the other day I was getting those x-rays from the dentist. Hopefully we're getting better and not having to do that. Yeah, but it'd be like you remember, okay, so high school age, you go to the dentist. They had a thing that would wrap, they put a metal deal on you, put a thing up on your face,

leave the room and go and then come back. Now they don't do that anymore. They just walk up a little gun and just hold it there. And it's like no big deal and not dangerous. and I don't know, man, time, progress. Yeah, yeah. I hated that back in the day. All right.

We also got a very odd call. I'm going to play it. It's 19 seconds. Here it is. Hey, Scott and Brian. This is. You can call me, Katie, and the farmer. You're ever in Nova Scotia, Scott.

Give me a call. You can help me out with my chores here. I don't know. I think Brian's right about what grossie O. the most probably would be something. All right. Then it cut off for some reason. Now, best I can tell, A, first of all,

got cut off so we don't really know what this call's about. B, it was hard to understand him because I think he's on a goat farm. There's goats. It sounds like it. Yeah, it sounds like goats in the background. And Nova Scotia is what I got. He's from Nova Scotia. Yeah.

That's about it. Help me out with my goats. Is that what he said? And I think I know what gross got out the most. So I don't know. And I don't know what he means. I don't know what he means. but whatever that was, if you want to write in again

or just fill us in because your call got caught off. Probably what it sounds like in Nova Scotia Chipotle or something. Yeah. Burr. Sour cream. Bad, more guac. Burr. That was awesome.

So whatever that was for, I'm glad to have played it here on the show. Yeah. All right. We're out of here. Don't forget, you can support us on Patreon. Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS.

Also, don't forget that all roads lead to and from frogpants.com slash TMS. And for those in the chat, hang around because if you've been submitting titles, we're going to choose from your title shortly and build out today's title and things. So stick around. That's going to do it for us. Brian, let's play a song before we go. Yeah. Oh, Isam 87 says it's about Scott's desire to live on a farm. Good point.

That's what it's about. It's the... Oh, okay. All right. I missed all that. I don't, I mean, I don't know that I would want to raise sheep. You know? No.

I just want to have land and, like, some chants. You want to be able, you want land, you want a patio that wraps around at least two-thirds of your house. And you want a rocking chair and a sprig of wheat in your mouth while you rock on the rocking chair and whittle. Yeah, and whittle. I want to whittle some wood. Exactly. Brian knows what I want. I know what you want.

I want a dog, maybe some chickens, maybe a pig. Not many pigs, just a pig. A pig. That I can give a funny name to. And then I want really good thick pipe ISP internet. Somebody please isolate Scott saying that he wants a really good thick pipe. I want that. I want that audio clip.

You want that. Brian needs a new ringtone for me. All right, Brian, let's play a song. What do we have lined up? All right. Going out to Dave from Toledo. Hey there, smoking a brisket. Look at that.

He made a phrase. It's been awesome listening to you over the last decade of podcasting epicness. I hope the spring brings new life to everyone's world as I turn the right. age of 41. I request a version of staying alive from the Bee Gees or someone similar. Who is someone similar to the Beegees? The DGs is Dave Grohl's

BG's cover band for a couple years ago. Yeah. That sounds right. Very similar to the BGs. I'll leave you in the cover master's hands to figure out where to go with this. Anyways, keep doing what you're doing. Stay safe, everyone. And most of all, I need to actually say stay safe. You didn't do say safe. and most of all, I keep staying awesome. Doc 3.83 in the chat when I can't tune in live, signed Dave from Toledo.

Good to have him here. I hope Toledo is going well. Home of a Klinger, Maxwell Klinger. That's right. Toledo. Yeah. All right, so cover of staying alive. Sure, I've got one for you. This is not by the BGs or someone similar.

It's by Dweasel Zappa. Yeah, the son of Frank Zappa. the late great Frank Zappa. Son of Dweasel Zappa with guest vocals by Donny Osmond. Wrap your brain around all that and listen to. Staying Alive. Hey, Donnie, why don't you try this one a little bit country? Shut up, Dweasel.

Everyone knows I'm a little bit. Rock and roll! Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you can't tell by the way I lose my war. I'm a woman's man. No time to talk. Music low.

Women warm, I get the rounds since I was born. It's all right, and it's okay. You made the thing out of the place. We can try. understand the New York Times Make your mother away Your mother you're staying alive Staying alive

I never took a break it and everyone's sitting there Staying alive Ah ha ha ha ha ha Stay in life Stay in life Staying alive Ah ha ha ha ha Staying alive

Oh Yeah Yeah Oh No I can't And I can't hide If I can't get in

A minute Got the wind of hell And all my sugar And that's a man And I can't move Oh Let's say Let's say to say

We can't try I'll stand When you're brother, with your mother, you're staying alive, still alive. Phyllis and freaking and everybody's shaking, you're still alive, still alive. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Stay alive, still alive, still alive. Huh, ha, ha, ha, ha, stay alive. It's alright

It's okay Yeah, baby Oh You're trying to understand You're tired That's a man It's all right It's okay

Oh yeah You can understand You can understand Oh You know, I'm going to be able to be. You know, I'm going to be. This ain't this ain't no poppylopin' up in this ain't no poppy love, baby! Ha, ha, ha, oh, ha, oh, ha, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Jets.