The Morning Stream - TMS 2616: Appropriated Mannequin
Episode Date: March 18, 2024I buy my arms at Amazon. Ben Silo. (Arnold Voice) Get your ass to Idaho! Yellow Pollen Brain Fog. Lymph is Just a Node. Too Much Donkey. I Left My Gloves In Brian's Kia. Lyft and Lost and Find. Satan'...s Bukakke. Portable Cerebro. How Much of the Plate is Pie? The Big Head condition. Film Sack is my White Noise. Do Herbivores eat vegans cos I like really wanted to know. Double Bobby Toil and Trobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, I buy my arms at Amazon.
Ben Silo.
Get your ass to Idaho.
Yellow pollen brain fog.
Lymph is just a node.
Too much donkey.
I left my gloves in Brian's Kia.
Lift and lost and find.
Satan's...
I hate this one.
Satan's Bucocke.
You sing the song, you say the Bukaki.
Portable Cerebro.
How much of the plate is pie?
The big head condition.
Film sac is my white noise.
Do herbivores eat vegans because I, like, really wanted to know?
Double Bobby Toil and Trobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
So you really like to chop chicken liver.
I get it in the drum from a catalog.
It's a lot easier than Italian food like my last place.
Did you know you have to heat up Italian food?
Shut up, you adult.
The morning stream, the good guys will come and get you.
Okay.
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Monday, March 18th, 2024.
I'm Scott Johnson, and that's Brian.
Hi, Brian.
Hello.
Hello.
How was your weekend overall?
Good time, you know?
You know, it was good.
It was, we're thawing out from all the snow that we got last week.
You got the same thing.
Warm it up, though.
We're getting sun, a little bit of warm temperatures now, so that would be coming your way.
In 50s today for us, mid-60s for the rest of the week.
Yeah.
Let's look it's 10-day.
But I'm finding that there's, it's helped me discover that there's a gutter issue
that I'm going to have to deal with sooner rather than later.
So we got solar panels and the snow just kind of collects on those solar panels, right?
Until it melts enough to just slide down the roof.
And it's really fun because next door the crazy neighbors have a steeper roof.
And when the snow comes down off of theirs, it comes down in a massive, like,
we hear it in our house.
Oh, you can hear it when it falls.
That's like signs of spring.
Yeah.
That's cool.
for ours it's a little bit it's a little bit more of a gradual slope so it comes down a little bit more piecemeal as opposed to all the same time but I was in front of the garage and I hear what sounds like drumming and I'm like what the heck is that and I go around the corner and look in the side of our house the side of our garage there's the gutter and it's right under where the solar panels are sure and some of the snow coming down it was so heavy and wet that it pulled the gutter away like there are the
These nails that go into the outside of the gutter go across the top of the gutter and then into the eaves of the house.
And the weight had pushed that nail, those nails out on about like four or five nails in a row.
And because of that, the gutter was tilted at about a 30 degree angle, which when it fills up means that the water is coming out of the side of that rather than going down to the drain.
That's not good.
So I really quickly grabbed a ladder and kind of did a little band-aid job to where I brought the letter.
It was great because normally I'd be a lot more concerned about leveling the ladder and, oh, Tina, maybe I need you to hold the ladder for me.
Sure.
That's a little A-frame ladder.
But the snow was so heavy on that side of the house from all the snow that piled up, the snow drifts, and then on top of it, the snow that came off the solar panels.
I basically was able to take the ladder and go, shoot, and just push it into the snow.
snow and it stayed put perfectly that's great so climbed up there hammered it all all all uh shut and i
and i'm looking as i'm hammering it i'm looking at the snow that's still on the solar panels
thinking these are just going to slide right into my face my the way i'm positioned i'm going to be
hammering these things that's going to be enough to cause an avalanche of snow and the the only place
it can go is right at my right at my eye level should have called should have called teen and said
get out here with a camera and we may go viral
or something here. I think that the
yeah, exactly. This goes, this goes
to funniest home videos, this goes to
the Today Show. But
fortunately, it stayed put.
I got the thing, you know,
a little Band-Aid fix on it, but it means
that when things
thawed out a little bit more, I'm going to have to do more of
like replace a bunch of nails,
maybe even replace a section of gutter
or something. So if I remember
it, when we did that, we had to recently do our gutters
again, and we had to have a whole
bunch of new stuff put in because the stuff that you nail into if i remember this right is a
separate layer of something i don't know what even is it's like particle board or something it's not
it's not part of the roof because you don't want to according to the guy you don't want to nail
directly into the roof or something i don't remember what it was you'll put a hole on the roof there's a hole in
the roof yeah literally that would happen and so he he had to put this stuff in between
and it was a pain and it was also expensive and I hated every second of all that that whole process I hated it I didn't have to do it but we paid through the freaking a hole for that so you're at least you're DIY this a little bit and you can kind of you know yeah yeah that I can I can do all that myself yeah also did some lifting over the weekend a lot of lifting and um 250 300 bench presses squats yeah yeah exactly had a spotter had a spotter sitting there uh uh
Getting ready to grab the barbell when it landed on my chest.
Sure.
No, but it's funny because the, the, whatever, 2018, I started lifting and maybe people
have left things in my car twice over, over four years, five years of doing this, six years
now, wow.
That's crazy.
And although I didn't do it any during the pandemic.
I didn't want to put any plates of glass in my car and have to screw things up in there.
Yeah.
But this weekend, Saturday and Sunday, had people leaving things in my car,
passengers who left something behind.
And first one was Saturday night, took a woman to an Irish bar called Clansy's,
and she left gloves in my car.
Oops.
And either she didn't realize it or whatever.
She thought she may have lost them at the bar, but we found them in the car that night.
And so I go on the end.
app and I say, oh, found lost item, must have been hers. So it lets me then send a message to that
person, I can say, hey, did you leave a pair of gloves in my car, found them? And it could have
been somebody earlier, but you were at my last ride. And somebody, you know, it seems like
somebody would have mentioned if they found it before. Or you would have seen them in there and
told me about it. She's like, oh, yeah, they're totally mine. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to
I'm going to be driving this morning.
If I can, if I get close to your, your house, I remember where I picked her up, then I'll drop them off for you.
She's like, oh, that's great.
First ride actually takes me a mile away from her house, so it's perfect.
I drop it off.
And she throws a tip in the app.
Now, when I click the button that says, like, she threw an extra tip, she tipped me when I took her to the bar, and then she went in there and, like, added to her tip.
So, so when I return the item, there's a button that says.
says, claim $20 fee, which basically takes it, like, charges them $20, lift, I don't think
gets a penny of it, takes it out of, basically charges the passenger, and he gives me an additional
$20.
And I'm like, well, there's no way those gloves.
Like, I was certain, she tipped me.
There's no way I'm going to, like, do an ad on things.
So I click, wave, wave $20 fee.
Yeah, you can't charge that.
That would have been, I would have felt horrible.
Yeah.
So yesterday, I do a little bit more.
No, I'm sorry, that was Friday.
This was Saturday.
I do a little bit more driving on Saturday.
And somebody leaves a phone in my car.
A group of four people basically took, taken from one light rail stop to where the light rail stop would have taken them had they not missed the train to go drink in Old Town, Arvada.
And they leave the phone in the car.
There's a whole big thing about like, hey, plug in your phone.
It's out of batteries.
Well, you hold on to it because I don't want to hold on to it.
And then they're up leaving in the car.
Of course.
And I'm on my way, way up north for another ride.
And I get the message from one of them, hey, we left our phone in the car.
I look back, yeah, sure enough, there it is dangling out of the charge cord.
And so I reply and say, well, I'm on my way up north, but after this ride, I'm still kind of on this side of town.
So I'll dash back down there and meet you at this spot where I dropped you off and get you the phone.
And so I do, I drop them off.
I come back down, text, hey, I'm here where I picked you guys up.
Oh, we'll be right there.
Five minutes later, they finally walk over.
Now, I look in the app to see, because this was way more of an involved trip, and I had to stop driving, like stop taking rides to do it.
Yeah.
So I look and see, did they tip me?
They didn't give me any money when I dropped the phone off, and it was like an extra tip.
Didn't do that, and they didn't tip in the app.
Yeah.
Yeah, charge $20 fee.
Yeah, do the $20.
Effing, yes, do the $20 for them.
Exactly.
I felt a little guilty, but then it's like, I don't feel that guilty.
No, especially if you had to stop everything and go out of your way, freaking forget it, man.
Exactly.
That took me off the road for a good 45 minutes, and that's easily $20 worth of lifting I could have done.
So it's like, yeah, I wouldn't do it for the first person, definitely do it for the second person.
Yeah.
And if they just shut up at the window, you know, and throwing you some, you know, whatever, anything, other than just like it's your job to somehow bring their phone back to them.
Right.
Right.
It's way out of my way.
It's not like it's super convenient.
So, yeah, it took the 20 bucks.
Nice.
Spend that wisely.
All right.
You know what I did?
I bought gas with it.
Oh, wow.
It went towards putting gas in the car.
No big deal.
That's what you got to do.
It's what you got to do.
Well, that's awesome.
I had a weird dream about you and Bobby.
Oh.
uh my wife and uh it all took place in a giant uh cement silo and a mannequin no mannequins
but there was a big silo a big cement silo for some reason so let me tell you the brief
version of this dream and then you can interpret it okay and this was vivid as hell hate when
they're vivid because i don't forget them they stick out in my head they do seem ridiculous
when i wake up but when i was in the middle of it it seemed real so in the dream we for some
reason the whole thing takes place in a big tall almost like a nuclear uh tower yeah like
like one of those silos like in the simpsons like one of the two you know in the intro yeah yeah like
the three mile island kind of like uh curved silo thing exactly except it was big open and airy and not
there's nothing in there but for some reason around unlike the movie unlike the tv show silo
exactly exactly yeah exactly and i don't know why we're in it there's no indication in the
dream why that's even a thing but we're in it we live there somehow
we all do i don't know why sure uh and in this silo uh i find out or word gets back to me that
kim and bobby have had an affair which is just just ridiculous but it has in the dream this
is a thing and i don't know why bobby's anywhere near my dream it's just weird and uh nice job bobby
can we this won't be awkward later when we have you on the show no it won't be weird at all but he
he was he was in this dream they had this affair i'm super pissed Kim is really dismissive in the dream
which is unlike her and it's just like really like in the dream in the moment i am really angry
right i wake up later and this is just like what the hell is that that was ridiculous it's so stupid
but part of this dream was i find out about the affair i'm fuming about it everybody's denying
it or they're just saying whatever it's you know you couldn't be in so uptight or whatever
these things happen in nuclear silos what do you get one big silo with a few of us in here what do you
expect you're lucky it doesn't happen more often basically and
And then all of a sudden in the middle of this, this guy that owes me $89,000 still in real life, the dude I worked for, contract work and never paid me.
He calls in the dream and says, hey, this is Ben.
I need, oh, that's his name, Ben.
I'm not going to docks him, but his name's Ben.
Yeah.
So this is Ben.
Oh, now he'll be easy to find.
Yeah.
You can track down a good luck, everybody.
Ben.
Ah, Ben, we know now.
Yeah, we know.
We know where to find him.
um so ben says uh i need you and brian you you brian not not done away or anyone else it's you for sure
he says i need i need you and brian uh a stat to get on a plane first plane possible to idaho and i need you
there tonight and i go oh shit with all this going on how we supposed to do this all right
hey brian across the silo hey we need to get on a plane and and the plane and the plane was at 2 30 in the morning
It's the best flight we could get.
Okay, yeah.
The plane came and landed in the silo.
That's how wide it was.
Oh, okay.
Went down to the bottom.
It was almost like a hover jet.
You and I get on this plane at 2.30.
I'm dead tired.
My wife's laughing.
Bobby thinks everything's fine.
I'll keep an eye on it for you, Scott.
See ya.
And best I can tell, that whole silo is me, Kim, Bobby, Brian.
That's it.
Nobody else.
No one else exists in here.
and then Ben on a phone somewhere else.
Yeah.
So we get on this plane, we go to Idaho for who knows what, and that's when I wake up.
What a stupid dream.
It's meaningless.
It's stupid.
Like, what is the point of any of that?
Like, why, brain?
I wasn't doing anything weird before I went to bed.
I didn't drink caffeine at night.
I didn't eat something weird.
Why does my brain go there?
You're so weird.
Oh, that explains it because I got a message from the plaza that you changed your reservation to the Californian.
That makes
Now it all makes sense.
Now at all, okay, now I see.
You're over in El Cortez now.
So now I understand.
Oh my gosh, the El Cortez.
I feel like I'd come away with something weird if I went there.
I don't know.
You know what?
The El Cortez,
quirky as heck down in their lounge area.
That was the first time, one of the first times I ever saw James and Svet play.
I might have been the first time, was it the L.
Cortez, because I went there with.
with this dude who um who knew the soundboard guy it was right around the time of triple seven
no no i saw them perform uh the night before the coverville triple seven concert because uh that's when
they introduced themselves but yeah i'm gonna have to ask him about that because i know that that was
an early early time of seeing them again might have been the second time i ever saw them
el cortez has been there forever right like that's an old one el cortez is an older one yeah um and
they did a refurb years ago it's it's privately it's well i want to say privately owned but it's not
as far as i know it's not part of one of the uh the downtown groups oh interesting oh
82 years that is a long time oh wow it's 82 years old yeah 19 1941 opened uh well and it's still
i think you're right about the ownership let's see yeah i think it's it's its own deal it's not
part of
not part of
one of the other
places. Let's see.
It says it was remodeled
in 52, but I don't know if anything's
been done. Oh, 2013,
they, oh.
Okay, it reflects the 1952 remodel when the
facade was modernized. On February 22nd,
2013, the
structure was placed on the
National Register of Historic Places.
That's cool. Nice. Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool. So they did the remodel? They kept it looking 1950s, huh?
I guess so, yeah.
Wow, it got, in 2023, got the award for Best Downtown Hotel. Is that really true? Look at that.
Whoa, maybe we should go there. Sounds cool.
We should, we should, it's been a while since I've checked it out, but their refurb looked great when they, when I saw that.
And they've got, um, Bugsys. I think they have Bugsys. Is that where you get the, yeah, see, I'm sorry, Siegel's 1941.
Yeah.
Um, that's a, that's a good place to get a bite.
Oh, it says here, Bugsy Siegel, Meyer Lansky and Gus Greenbaum and Mo Sedway bought the property in 45 from this dude who built it for 600 grand.
Originally was built for $245, $245,000 is all.
Wow.
That's insane.
Uh, so it looks like Siegel ran the thing until 70. Let's see here.
I'm trying to see if it's just still.
just owned by somebody like a person or a small investor group which group it is and stuff yeah it's
definitely not part of the bigger stuff oh do you hear about um uptown funk guys it got 50 million
in debt at the mgm did you hear about this the uptown you mean uh mark ronson or uh bruno mars
yeah i always forget his damn name but he he uh apparently with the mgm alone 50 million dollars in
gambling debt that's crazy
That's a lot of money, and that tells me that, A, he's either terrible at gambling.
I mean, he must be.
How do you have $50 million in debt for gambling?
Yeah, exactly.
Horrible.
Oh, my gosh.
50 million.
Like, boy, I'd love to know, I'd love to know, A, what game, what game did you rack up most of that on?
Yeah.
And was that, what size was it like 50 really crappy million dollar bets or two crappy $25 million?
million dollar pass or like let's see you know what do you think what do you think the highest roller kind of thing you can do in Vegas is like if you had to guess if you had billionaires coming to town they have a special room in somewhere yeah they have a VIP like they've got their high roller room and then they've got the VIP tables in the high roller room you can I I think minimum you're playing $10,000 a hand for like blackjack and stuff like that crazy man you're right is that insane money it's insane money like if you're a bottom level if you're a
billionaire, that's nothing to them.
So, yeah, of course.
It makes sense.
And you would really, you'd really do that up if you were the casino of choice.
You know, you would make that just like the most lavish freaking evening of their lives.
And if they're billionaires, you've probably got to, you got to probably bring in some weird shit because those people aren't excited about anything anymore.
They can buy anything they need, so you got to get weird.
And I like how, how those VIP doors, you know, those doors to get to the high limit slots in the gaming rooms.
And then they're, they're not, they're, um, uh, virtual doors, not physical doors.
You can walk right in there even as a low, as a low roller.
If you want to go, I want to go do, you know, $10 on one pull of the slot machine.
You can do that.
Yeah, not a problem.
But, um, the virtual door is there.
They think that it's to separate us from them.
We outside there see it as separating them from us.
Yeah, we're not, you're not, you're not in here with me.
I'm in here with you.
those cheese heads in there
they're looking to say
keep those knuckleheads outside
what's the what's the Rorschach
quote I'm not in here
with you you're in here with me or whatever
yeah yes right right
Rorschach I was thinking the
the guy who invented those inkblot tests
you know that guy
yeah I always like to
I like to talk about him
right
well anyway
Jurassic Park those aren't to keep us out
it's to keep them in that's right
this is a you are going to
to have you are going to have some gambling on your gambling tour.
We're going to move on.
I've got to tell you about this quick email we have from somebody.
This is just interesting.
We're talking about stuff that helps you sleep like you're using that sleep app.
Oh, yeah, the better sleep app.
Yeah, all that.
I listen to brown noise, deep brown noise.
Deep brown noise.
And I found one that does not interrupt it with a joke in the middle.
So I'm all good now.
I have a perfectly long-running 10-hour version of this without anyone screaming in the middle of it.
So it's been fantastic.
Anyway, we get this email that says,
great thought about FilmSack sleeping.
Hey, Sheets in bed in TMS 2614.
Scott and Brian were talking about sleep apps
and sounds you fall asleep to.
I work in an intense mental health job,
and when I try to sleep,
the brain doesn't turn off.
So I listen to FilmSack every single night.
For years, so much so.
My wife asked me what movie it will be tonight,
so she patiently has to, or sorry,
as she patiently has to listen as well.
Sometimes about four friends being calm, talking earnestly,
and talking about the old movies of the world is just a wonderful thing to drift off to.
So thanks for being my sleep app.
Love the show, though.
I don't know how to feel about that.
Because if our banter is not designed on that show to put you to sleep, that's not the goal.
But if it works for you, I don't know, I can't, you know.
Yeah.
You know, we're not, again, bringing up the Joe Rogan, we're not.
yelling or being crazy or sensational or anything like that we're we're talking mellow about uh about stuff yeah
i hope my music doesn't doesn't wake you back up after the intro oh yeah no doubt that
malcolm up more than anything else is uh is hollywood homicide yeah it's your fake fletcher uh
i mean that keeps that keeps us up at night so why not the listener it does yeah exactly well thanks for that
We love hearing from people.
If you want to send us a message, 801-47-1-0-4-6-2.
Doneaway incoming and a game to play.
He's not joined the game yet, but he will.
He'll take him a second to do so.
Oh, he has piped in, has he?
Has he messaged you or anything?
He has not done any of that, but I'm sure he will.
He'll be in the game momentarily.
I have confidence that he's around.
I do, too.
He wouldn't forget this.
put together last week and then had to sleep because it was up late last night going to the airport.
Oh, that's right. That was a fun night for you. You enjoyed that. Oh, real fun night. It was a good night.
It was a good time. And I didn't get a tip, nor did they leave anything in my car.
Oh, my gosh. That's not good either.
Hey, lucky here. We got a little game to play. It's called The Morning Half Ases and it stars One Brian Dunaway.
Hi, Brian. Welcome to our show. How are you?
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
I am so glad to be on your show.
No, it's good to have you on our show.
You know, you're here and our here.
That is our show.
Yeah, you know what?
You're right.
It still works.
It's our show.
Yep, take a number.
We'll call you when we're ready, and it's good to go.
We're going to play a game.
When we play this game, you'll know what happens because you'll either win or lose.
I don't know who's ahead right now.
Is there any kind of like running thing here?
Oh, my God.
We don't keep track of that.
do we get? I don't, yeah, somebody out there might keep track of it, but it ain't me.
I think of this like, like a T-ball. No one keeps score.
Exactly. And it resets every, every week. It just resets and you're on a fresh, fresh start.
Well, good. Give us a fresh start at Brian a bit and tell us how this works.
Well, I will. Welcome to the morning half-ass is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you the answers.
I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers, three of which are correct.
And three that like not tipping me after I drive.
across town to bring you back your damn phone are
incorrect. I just came
up with that on the fly. Depending on how confident
they feel with the category, they can provide one, two, or
three guesses, but if they get any wrong, they get
zero points for that round.
Get one right, gets you a point, two right, gets you
three points, and all three correct, gets you five
points total. The player with the most points
after three rounds wins the prize
for their contestant. And I've pulled a couple
contestants. You've been doing it wrong
this whole time. I've been trying to get at least points.
Yeah, you were trying to do like golf.
I pulled a couple of contestants for
members of the tadpool that aren't able to listen live. Scott,
you're going to be playing for Dan Wiserick in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Oh, nice. I like the Canadians.
Could be Wieserick. Weisorick. I'm not sure.
Brian, you're going to be playing for Mike Cummins, aka Worm, from Scotland, but residing in Ireland.
Oh, and a Scottish guy in Ireland. Damn.
Yeah, we're all out of state this year. I learned this year.
Out of state.
Out of state. Definitely out of state.
For sure.
Out of states.
Your prizes today, we'll talk more about them later, but Hell Pie, the Red Lantern, and Scorn are your prizes today.
Scott's Scorn likes that.
I like Scorn.
Scorn is gross and weird.
It's awesome.
You said that controller, that weird scorn controller of the game?
Yeah, my son borrowed it, though, and still has it.
So you don't have it.
So, okay.
So you actually don't have.
Technically, I retain ownership, but he has possession.
It's kind of like my PS5 that's.
Ethan's house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's still your PS5.
Christmas.
Yeah.
You better buy,
you should buy a portal
and then you can have,
uh,
you can have it at home,
but just do it over 5G.
That's what I thought about that.
It's funny because I was actually thinking that in my mind.
I'm like,
how do I ask Ethan gently to give me back my PS5?
And I'm like,
oh, I know I'll buy a new PS5 accessory and he'll have no choice.
You'll have no choice.
You'll take it over when you,
I guess he can turn it off.
So, you're not,
this isn't going to work well.
Anyway,
well, let's play this game.
I can't wait to see if I can win.
Let's play this game.
There might be some cat action going on here in the basement.
And I was rubbing up against my, and then stopped and stared down the way.
So I think Salem came down to visit.
Okay.
I got to say something before we get too far.
Please do.
Okay.
So I live in the southern part of the United States.
And right now, what we call the yellow pollen has arrived.
And I always get extra dumb when the yellow pollen gets here.
Oh, well, already coming up with excuses.
Okay.
No, I'm telling you, I can't, if I say something stupid, like earlier, I said out of States this year, what the hell is that?
Oh, yeah.
But that's, that's this confusion that this yellow pollen that is sprinkled.
All over.
You just, you get confusion.
It's a true story.
Is it from the Kudzu?
What does it come from the yellow pollen?
Straight from hell.
I think Satan blows it up into the sky.
You remember how like the kabuki thing?
It's like it just blows it from the ground.
What, Bukaki?
Yeah, Bukaki.
All right, let's go.
to the...
Pines, by the way, it's Pines.
We're covered with Pines.
Oh, okay.
Cover with Pines.
Pines.
Okay. Bukaki.
But it's the Pines.
It was the Pines the whole time.
Yeah. Yeah.
Satan's pipe, as I call them.
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
All right.
Wow.
Well, let's see how you do through your yellow pollen haze.
Yeah.
And your first question is this.
People born in the West Indies.
So which of these, which three of these people were born in the West Indies?
Your choices are, uh, Patrick.
Ewing, Sydney Poitier, Empress Josephine, Kelsey Grammer, Claude Monet, and Thomas Payne.
Kelsey, Graham, people were born in the West, not Thomas the Tank Engine.
No, no. People born in the West Indies.
Indies. All I can think of is bad dates. Do to do, do, do, do, exactly.
Wow, I don't know this at all. I'm a pick two.
Pick two as well.
You guys both pick two.
And you guys both pick Sidney Poitier.
It just seems like the right thing.
He's got that accent.
It sounds like a Poitier in the West Indies.
Of course.
Yeah, absolutely.
But no.
Born in Miami.
Ah, shit.
He has that, he has that cool.
The actual one's Patrick Ewing, which you did choose, Scott.
Empress Josephine, and Frazier and the Beast himself, Kelsey Grammer,
born in the West Indies.
What?
Come on.
How did Frasier end up in there?
That must be some military kid thing or something.
Claude Monet born in Paris and Thomas Paine born in England.
I can't think, for whatever reason, Thomas Paine is not ringing a bell.
Who am I talking about there?
Thomas Paine.
He's one of our founding fathers, Thomas Paine.
Oh, Scott.
You don't know Thomas Paine?
I have no idea.
Invented house paint, I believe.
That's why we call it paint.
He's lying.
You such a liar
I love that joke. It's good
though. But it's a good lie. It's a good lie. It's a great
lie. And I think I usually could be
wrong. I'm going to get some emails if Thomas Pins
is not one of our founding fathers, among the
group. Oh, you're right. I just looked him up.
He is an English-born American founding
father. I don't remember him ever
coming up for anything. Thomas, wasn't Thomas
a real common name in that era?
Probably. It makes sense.
It makes sense. It makes sense.
Jefferson. Thomas P. Whirl.
Everybody there had a John Thomas.
Thomas, yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, let's get to question number two.
Sounds like a lot easier.
You guys are both men.
Jesus.
Both men.
So this should be easy for you.
Which of these are colognes for men?
Your choices are.
For men.
Network.
Oud.
One man show.
Mother Road 66.
Lymph and fluff magnet.
Lymn reviews.
You couldn't go in like polo, dracar, noir, or something that at least survived.
What the hell is?
Lymph or Fluff Magnet.
My gosh.
Or Ud.
Yeah, dude.
These are terrible.
Okay.
These are all real?
Can you confirm that part?
Are they all real actual things?
Or are they not?
Or some of these?
You can't tell us, can you?
I'm not going to tell you.
Fair enough.
I don't know if it would help you, but I might not know.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Sometimes they tell me on the thing like, oh, that's really such and such.
But in this case.
All right there.
I'm picking two. I don't know.
I went with three because I'm going to get, I'm definitely losing it.
So, I mean, maybe I'll get a windfall and just get all three.
Maybe.
All right.
Okay.
Look at you guys.
All right.
Going big.
Network, yes.
One man show.
Yes.
Mother Road 66.
Those are your three right there.
Network one man's show.
Mother Road 66 are all real close.
I thought, see, one man show I felt like you were misdirecting on that one.
Because it just seemed too obvious.
I feel like those, definitely.
Because it's got man in it, right?
It's like...
It's got man, so you'd immediately assume.
Yeah, Network is made by Lomani.
Mother Road 66 is made by Parfume Satori,
and one man's show was made by Jacques Bogart.
Oh, geez.
An odd made by Brian in his kitchen.
That's right.
Can you tell me if lymph is anything real?
Is that bullshit?
Just a node, as far as I know.
I can't imagine a...
perfume or a cologne called lymph
it did look up fluff magnet
and that's just a term for those magnets
that are kind of puffy that you put on your fridge
that uh oh good
I really thought that was a
term it sounds like a porn term
that's that dude is really a fluff magnet
I like the chat's idea that one man show is a clone
by Adam Carolla that's pretty good
pretty good
nice job guys
one man show
all right let's get two questions
number three, maybe you guys can get some points here.
Yeah, JK, J.K. Rolling,
you know, just continues to put out those tweets
that are so, so
friendly and inviting and
and, you know,
all inclusive.
Which of these are creatures in the Harry Potter
universe?
I was going. I'm like, where are you going?
Where are you going? Where you going? No, yeah, it's okay. Your choices
are the Squib monk, Shrake,
Ix, flobber worm,
goo and doxy.
read all those books. I don't know
any of these. Yeah, me
too. How did I...
Squib monk, Shrek. I haven't read all of them, but
I have went through a lot. By the way, for
those of you are listening and not sure what
the score is, the score is currently
nil, nil, nil. Zero,
zero, zad, zip. Zip.
Gooseeg. Zeg. Guseg.
Guseg.
Uh, geez.
Only one of these sounds right.
I think I should
get a point for just not choosing
anything that's how I should win the only way like it's it's it's war games and the only way to win is
not to play basically yeah yeah pretty much I've seen Shrake lately like four different times
in a video game I saw it in an anime and then again in some TV show and I don't know why
suddenly my wife my life is Shrake heavy I think only the first Shrake uh I like the first Shrek
I didn't like any of the sequels but yeah you know what they really it was too much
donkey in the later Shrakes
me in the later Shrakes.
Yeah, too much Shrake.
You cut me deep, Shrake.
You cut me deep.
That's a line right out of Shrike 1.
Nice job.
All right.
Somebody was.
Brian, you going to choose something here?
I'm shut up.
Are you Googling real quick?
No.
What the hell would I Google?
Yeah, what would you Google?
Jesus.
What is a Shrake?
I don't know.
I'm just trying to, I'm going logically like, what it makes sense?
What are some other words I've heard that makes, that are close to this?
And I'm kind of floating towards that, but I'm just not sure.
So I'm just going to do that.
Okay.
All right.
Playing it safe.
Brian locked in with one.
Scott locked it in with two.
Well, flabber worm you both locked in on and got that one correct.
So that's a point for both of you.
Oh, now the real neat.
I felt like that was safe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That one did feel like the safe one.
By the way, Shrake, totally.
Totally a Harry Potter creature, by the way.
Nobody chose it.
Do you speak the Shrek tongue?
Parsletone, same thing.
That's right, great.
The other, the other one is.
Doxy.
Good job, Scott.
You got two of them, Doxy and Flabberwark.
Congratulations.
And, yeah, flabberwood and doxie and shrift.
No, that's true.
You did not get skunked.
Well done.
Yeah, I don't know.
That was a pure guess.
I don't know what a doxie is.
Is it like a little fairy or something?
I don't either.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
Icor got it right away.
Like he,
he nailed all three of them like,
right after I listed the questions.
So he's a...
Kevin's a nerd. So there you go. Congratulations, Scott
for the win, and congratulations by proxy.
Dan Wieserick in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
You're going to be getting the hell pie and the red lantern.
Kaneda!
Congratulations.
That's right.
And Mike Cummins, you're going to be getting scorn.
Sorry, Mike.
We'll keep you occupied in Ireland before you make your way back to Scotland.
Yeah, you know what?
That you both kind of won today, which is kind of the idea around here.
We like everybody to get a partation, participation.
Yeah, except Dunaway.
Yeah, Dunaway gets this, though.
He loses.
That's really.
He is our only loser because he goes, he loses and he goes home with nothing.
That's right.
But I still got to, no, I didn't.
I have these memories.
Oh, you can't take those from me.
You can't take that from you.
That's what losers say.
That's great.
I like that.
That's a great loser take.
And it's pretty good.
And that's what mean you say.
that's what meanie say kiss our butts all right his buddy's been kissed oh i should have said is it
really his birthday tomorrow brand down away oh is it i don't know i should have it on my calendar i got
the notification from facebook that tomorrow's his birthday but there was somebody in my life that i know
i get a false notification from and i think it might be done away shoot let's find out uh if mine says
it or not that will be the kicker right yes exactly let's see uh oh that's that's facebook why
Suddenly Facebook has a dark theme and I didn't have it on and now it's on.
Facebook perennally was a dark theme.
Forever a dark theme.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
I guess X is the dark theme.
Yeah, X is definitely the dark theme.
I can't find the, I'm not getting a notification about it, so I don't know what that means.
Maybe yours is off.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Oh, I got a, do you remember James Bartholomew from forever ago?
Remember that name?
Yeah, of course.
Of course I remembered you.
Yeah.
He just sent me a friend request.
Lived in England.
Maybe still lives in England?
Yeah, I think so.
He came here for,
worked here for a while, maybe,
or well,
he was it nerdtacular a couple times.
I know that.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, all right.
Happy birthday, Brian.
If it's your birthday,
and if it isn't,
well,
F off.
Let's get to some quick news stories
to just,
uh,
wet our appetite here.
Here's,
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That's right. Carter's going to talk. Carter, what was our thing you wanted to make sure to bring up tonight?
What was it?
Bad shows? Oh, we're going to talk about this, what she believes to be a terrible
last Airbender live action adaptation on Netflix.
Oh, really? I've been wondering about that.
She hates it. It's reviewing okay, and its audience scores are strong-ish.
They're not like, you know, 90s or anything.
But she is, her and her friends are like rock star, hardcore.
You've got opinions.
We're going to hear them tonight.
So check it out, everyone.
I did, I finished, Tina, finished louder milk.
And, of course, it doesn't, I think whenever it was recommended.
you or whoever it was pointed out that they didn't they ended things with a little bit of a cliffhanger or a we have more story to tell so sure hoping somebody says hey ron livingston let's let's give you more story to tell there was a rumor i don't know how true it is but i read this on variety or something that they were uh that netflix had gotten the rights to run it to see how it would perform and then they were considering a revival so that'd be great
We'll see.
I know it did well.
It was in the top 10 for the whole first three month or two months it was out.
So I feel like there's a strong chance we might get more.
But yeah, I love that show.
I don't know so.
Yeah.
So good.
All right.
Let's give you a couple of quick stories, maybe one here.
Some Chiefs fans, you know, the Chiefs, they won that their Super Bowl deal this year.
Oh, yeah, that big football game that happened last month.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, they got like a ring, you know.
The Taylor Swift concert where she didn't perform.
many music. That one. Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah. Where she just sat there
and pointed a lot and hugged her friend.
That's the one. Yes. Well, some
chief fans need amputations now.
After
frigid playoff game.
This is from before, obviously, the Super Bowl.
Oh, no. Oh, my gosh.
According to this hospital, some of the people who attended the
near record cold Kansas City Chiefs playoff
game in January had to undergo amputations
after severe frostbite.
Research Medical Center didn't provide
exact numbers, but said in a statement that it treated
dozens of people who had experienced frostbite
during an 11-day cold snap in January.
12 of those people, including some who were
at the 13th of January game,
had to undergo amputations
evolving, mostly fingers and toes.
And the host, those are, I like my fingers and toes.
I don't want those. I like those too. Yeah, I want to
keep mine. So they can,
they can no longer do the song,
head, shoulders.
Yeah, they stop right there. That's where they stop, and they just
put their heads down.
I guess they can do knees and knees and...
Oh, knees, yes, I'm sorry, knees and toes.
Head, shoulders, knees, and...
Wamp, wong.
Head, shoulders, knees, and...
It's kind of morbid and sad, but yes, they can't all longer do that song, very well.
I really do feel bad for them, but, you know...
Yeah.
It's a football game.
If you're...
You're starting to feel when you have problems, you need to go somewhere warm.
Warm up in the place.
Yeah, get the F out of there.
The temperature for the Dolphins Chief's Wild Card Playoff game in particular was minus...
minus 4 Fahrenheit, which is minus 20 degrees Celsius.
Geez, Louises.
Wow.
And the wind gust made the wind chill a minus 27 Fahrenheit, minus 33 Celsius.
It was very cold.
This shattered a record for the coldest game in Arrowhead Stadium history,
which had been minus one, or I'm sorry, one degree Fahrenheit, minus 17 Celsius back in 1983 when they played Denver.
When they played us, yeah.
It's funny.
It's ironic, though, that Denver and Tennessee playing in the cold,
kind of makes sense to me.
Yeah.
The Chief's playing in the cold makes sense.
The dolphins playing in the cold does not make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
No, not at all.
But anyway, these people had to...
I don't know if it's worth your fandom.
I'm just saying, I'm not saying you shouldn't have gone to the game.
I just, it's not worth it.
You know when you start feeling that that it's like, oh, crap, I think I need to go
inside or I'm going to have some serious, serious health problems.
and yeah go in go in and what it sounds like to me these are probably your individuals that didn't have
proper glove slash coat slash you know winter wear on because i think you can survive those
temperatures pretty well if you're equipped for it like those so it gets pretty cold like that
in like you know Minnesota yeah so you just make sure you've got the big thick wool socks and
uh yeah and gloves or mittens mittens are better because you keep your fingers together and they
They warm each other up as opposed to separating them out.
I never thought of that.
That's why mittens are mittens.
That's why we do that.
That's why mittens are mittens, yeah.
It also saves on fabric, but I think it's just nature that your fingers are warmer in mittens
because they're together as opposed to being separated.
You know who can't keep them separated.
I'll tell you who loves Mittens, AI art generators.
They love them.
They love it.
Exactly.
Like, whew, don't have to try to.
remember how many fingers people have.
No, it's just like one fat finger
and you got your mitten.
You're all done.
He's that hate mittens, Nightcrawler
from the X-Men. Hates. Oh, no,
also prefers Mins, hates gloves. Yeah, it's true.
Oh, is that that's a thing?
Well, Nightcrawler has
two big fingers, so we can't really do
gloves. Right. I always forget. He's got
like, not like claws.
Two big fingers and a thumb. Yeah. It's like a
lobster. It looks like, basically looks like
this. Like, yeah. Like he's permanently doing
the Spock
the Spock thing.
He's a fan favorite.
Do you think we get him
in the new deal?
I hope so.
Yeah.
I wonder who else.
I was trying to think about this the other day
because I was just like talking to my nephew
about X-Men last night, in fact.
And he goes, who do you think they'll be in there?
So, well, you'll have Professor X.
We don't know who that.
I mean, will they pull, what's his name again?
Maybe I don't know.
Patrick Stewart?
Probably not.
Not if.
Oh, not Stewart, but the other younger dude, what's his name?
Oh.
Oh, yes.
I know you're talking about.
Mick.
McAvoy.
Dude,
McAvoy.
James Mick.
But they're not going to do prequely stuff.
They're going new stuff, right?
Don't you think?
They're going to start over.
Doesn't it a fresh take.
It's got to be.
Yeah, it'll be a fresh take.
But it'll probably be,
I would bet that it's going to be a combination of old and new team characters.
Okay.
Give me your lineup.
Who do you want?
All right.
Okay.
your lineup, let's do the prediction
here, let's see how many of these I get right when this finally comes
out. All right. You'll
have your Cyclops. I think you'll
have a Gene Gray. Probably. Beast
for sure. Yeah. Someone's
got to run IT. You've got to have
beast. You need your IT person, right?
Exactly. I think
you get
do you want Colossus in there? You want your
big guy? That's what I'm trying to think from
the 94, X-Men
94 and after thing.
the all new, all different X-Men.
I think you get your Colossus.
I like Colossus, big fan.
Especially since you've kind of gotten him,
oh, yeah, you'll get a Wolverine.
Oh, yeah.
Colossus was in Deadpool, so you could probably just...
Exactly.
That's what they're going to...
Exactly.
And, yeah, I don't know how they're going to do that from...
Because we're going to probably get more Colossus in Deadpool, this Deadpool 3.
I hope so.
Maybe.
I hope so.
I love him in the Deadpool stuff.
He's so good.
He's so Russian compared to the ones we...
got in the second X-Men and last stand.
Those were not great portrayals in my opinion.
Now, people are saying Rogue, this would be where I'd love to see them, how they connect
the Marvel, or how they connect the X-Men to the MCU.
Give us the storyline where Rogue is this member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and
actually steals Carol Danvers powers, uses her thing to wipe out the memories of Carol Danvers.
and that's kind of and then and then defects to the X-Men that's not bad that would be a great that would be a great like first X-Men story to bring them into the MCU yeah I'd be all right with that that sounds all right you probably you're probably gonna end up but you gotta have Wolverine he's in there right you got a Wolverine he's fan favorite and there's no there's no way you don't I don't know if we get a night crawler right away I think night crawler could be could be down the road he'll bamfin later and then later you need a you need a you need a you need a you need a you
young person so either a kitty pride or a jubilee no jubilee please no jubilee i mean i know they could
redo her in a way that maybe would be cool but just just avoid it like storm do storm or somebody else
like storm right storm would be yeah storm would be a good one to do as well maybe um maybe a bishop
because we were getting all these characters obviously in the 97 is cool yeah bishop is really
cool yeah i don't know where i want him to stop this is the problem there's so many cool x-men that are
on the outside. It's like you don't want to stop.
You think they do? Okay, here's my question for you. They think they do the thing where
Professor X has got the helmet and he can walk now? Do you think they were in mess with that?
Cerebro. Oh, got you where he's got his little portable cerebral on his head and then walks
around. Yeah. No. I think too much has been established with Professor X in the wheelchair,
even though it won't be Patrick Stewart, but seeing him in in multiverse of madness, for the
non-X-Men fans out there, you need wheelchair connection.
Yeah, I agree.
Someday we'll find it, the wheelchair connection.
I got in the dumbest argument with a guy on Twitter over the weekend that was so stupid about Professor X.
Let me tell you what he was saying.
He was saying, I don't think that characters who have magic should be disabled.
And I went, I don't think you understand what Professor X is, first of all.
It's not magic.
This isn't magic.
He's not using magic.
Like, okay, so take that out of your head.
his disability has nothing to do with his
mutant powers now if he was somebody whose mutant
power was to take
paralyzed legs and make them walk again
well then okay
I could not I could not disengage
fast enough maybe meant maybe he just meant
iliana resputin maybe he meant that kind of magic
and not uh I don't think this guy was that
that plugged in honestly it was just like what
really I had it I got out of it
I couldn't talk to that guy
It feels like they're trying to pull you back into the cesspool of Twitter conversations.
Yeah.
Engagement bait, baby.
It's out there.
Yeah.
We're going to take a break when we come back from this break.
We're going to have an unusual moment of double Bobby.
We had them last week.
Now we're having them again.
The reason we're doing that is because Stephen had a doctor's appointment today and could not be here.
So as a result...
Our second reason is that Scott needs to have a talk with Bobby.
Yeah, we need to have a real stern talking to.
about what he did in that silo.
Yeah, you know what you did, Bobby.
You know what you did.
That's right.
I mean, this divorce is going to be in a C.
Anyway, that's all coming up after this break,
but I don't have any idea what we're playing,
so we should probably ask Brian.
Brian, what do we play?
Oh, Paul Masseus says,
Magneto let X-Men throw people off.
That's what the X-Men 97 series is going to be.
It's going to be Magneto leading the X-Men because...
Oh, I didn't know that.
Professor X died at the end of the animated series,
the original 90s animated series.
Oh, that's true.
So this picks up right after that.
picks up right after that and
we're going to find out that
and he did for a while in the
90s he had this horrible
purple costume with a purple and
black costume with a big M on his chest
a massive M on his chest. It was bad
It was really bad. I'm excited about it. When is
that? That's soon right?
First episode comes out Wednesday.
Oh man. So excited about that.
And I might join you and Brian for a little
discussion every once in a while if you're doing that
Oh hell yeah. You should absolutely do it.
I think we even said that when we talked about
We're like, we've got to get a bit on that because he knows the shit.
You told me about it, and if I'm not lifting, I'll totally do it.
So it really depends on how early on a Friday you guys can do it.
Yep, we'll figure it out.
We want to do it, though.
Awesome.
Well, let's play some music.
What do you got?
Let's get to the music.
This one, we've got a couple this week that are going to be from listeners or friends of listeners.
This one comes to us from a listener named Paul.
Hello, there, Colorado, and Utah.
I have a friend whose band is releasing their second EP on March 8th.
The band is called Painted Roses.
They formed in Logan, Utah, and I believe they're all currently living in Colorado.
So both a Utah and a Colorado connection.
Nice.
The new EP is called Two Lines, and the first single released is called Tired Eyes.
Check them out.
They're pretty damn good.
You can find their music pretty much everywhere, and you can follow the band on either
TikTok or Instagram under the name, Painted Roses.
Nice.
Oh, thanks.
And even though Scott made the inexcusable mistake years ago by stating that the former
all-pro defensive back-turned TV actor Merlin Olson was a graduate of
BYU instead of Utah State University. I still maintain positive
regard for the show. Oh, man. Is that? Actually, I still thought
that until just now. I didn't know that.
Crap. All right. Fix your Merlin Olson knowledge there, Scott.
Yeah, and I really like Utah State as well. So, yeah, oops.
I'll fix it. All right. All right. As mentioned, this is the song, Tired Eyes from the
from the Painted Roses, they're brand new EP.
Go pick it up right now.
It's called Two Lines.
Here are Painted Roses.
She read two lights
One I lived and one I died
But close your tired eyes
And I tell a mean lie
You start to think a world
survive
to close the tired
eyes
the people dance
oh the people dance
and I try my best
move
hey
I've got a feeling
I can't find my way out
Hey, I've got a feeling.
I can't find my way out.
I'm feeling like the fool.
But I guess this morning fight.
I take it as it comes with my tired eyes.
On the porch with a glass of wine and the neon lights, the moon dies.
She closed her tired eyes.
The people dance, oh, the people dance in the tribal best.
Hey, I've got a feeling, I can't find my way out.
Hey, I've got a feeling, I can't find my way out.
I got a feeling
I can't find my way out
I got a feeling
I'm going to be love
So, you know, I'm going to be.
Hey, I've got a feeling I can't find my way out
Hey, I got a feeling I can't find my way out
Hey
I've got a feeling
I can't find my way out
I can't find my way out
We're going to be.
I'm going to be able to be.
We're going to be able to be.
You know,
I'm going to be able to be.
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And we're back.
Tell me who that was again.
Sure.
That was a band called The Painted Roses,
a brand new song called Tired Eyes.
Big thanks to Paul for letting me know about those guys.
That's awesome.
Check this out.
That's your M, right?
This is the guy.
Check your Discord there.
Is that the...
I'm checking it right now.
That's the...
Yeah.
Isn't that horrible?
That's really bad.
Yeah.
So is that...
That's enough.
from the X-Men 97 cartoon.
No, no, no.
I think this is older, I think.
Well, all I did was search for Big M.
Magneto, and this is what it came up with.
Yeah, it might be,
that might be, because that is what the
new series is going to start with is
Magneto leading the X-Men. That could be it.
I mean, in a way, I'm glad they're going to keep that
because that's how they left it.
Because it's comic accurate, yeah.
Yeah, but stupid.
Right? Yeah.
Just stupid. No, we get who you are, dude.
Your M doesn't have to be half your body.
Oh, that's, the M. That must.
be magneto.
That's just a stupid thing to draw.
Yeah.
All right, Bobby, that's who I'm pulling it.
I forget what we're doing here.
All right, Bobby's on his way.
We're going to have him here again.
It's like a little double-doser of this.
Bob is hungry and the soup looks good.
It sure does.
Bob is here to join us as he does each and every time he's on.
And right now he's back.
Bobby, how do you feel about what you've done in my dream?
How do you feel about that?
Well, you know what the funny thing about that dream is, is that the affair that me and Kim are having does not happen in a silo at all.
Right.
There's no side.
So that the big inaccuracy here is the silo part.
Okay.
I get it.
It's funny, too, now that I just think about it, how strangely connected to my recommendal this week this whole conversation is.
Oh my gosh.
Really?
That's funny. I can't wait now.
Yeah.
Well, Bobby, it's good to have you back, though, regardless.
You know, dreams are stupid.
Don't worry about those dreams.
You can't. Follow your dreams.
You can't help it.
You really can't.
No, you really can't.
It's just going to happen.
And mine are stupid.
Mine are so dumb sometimes.
And my dreams, Tina's having an affair with a guy who's got a glove with a bunch of knives on it on one hand
and a red and green striped ratty sweater and a crummy hat.
Oh, my gosh.
That's familiar somehow.
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, no sure why.
Yeah.
But he always makes these hard.
one-liners. It's really ringing a bell.
Well, Bobby, thanks for stepping in today so that Stephen could do his blood tests and
stuff. Break all of his HIPAA things I'm doing today.
Anyway, it's good to have you here. Were you able to find some science you thought was
appropriate for today's discussion?
Have you found any science?
I'm always reading science, so I just grabbed something that I was working on already.
and I was doing some research for something we're going to record for a news item.
So this isn't what we're going to talk about in the show.
But in researching that thing for that show,
I came across this, which I thought was really interesting and thought,
well, why don't I talk to the boys about it?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to start with a question, which is,
do you think that there are more herbivores or carnivores in the world?
I'm just wondering what you guys.
Straight one or the other note.
So no omnivores, like basically one...
Yeah, no omnivores.
We're talking about only things that are only herbivore and things that are only carnivore.
So humans are out.
Humans are out because we do...
Right, because we are...
What about vegans?
Yeah.
How about the vegans?
Do you count the vegans?
I don't think there are any vegans in the animal world.
Except for humans.
I guess humans are animals.
Yeah, there are plenty of animals that only eat vegetables, but they're not like making a stand.
It's not like they made a choice.
I feel like to be a vegan, it has to be a choice, right?
agree. Uh, let's think. I would bet there are more herbivores. I'm going to guess. I'm going to,
I think Brian's right. I think it's more herbivores than, uh, than, uh, meativores. Yeah. Yeah, I think
it's more herbivores as well. So there was a 2019 paper, exactly, I'm just going to go right over the
question, no answer. Um, yep, we'll never find out. There was a 2019 paper, uh, that I was looking at
that examined animal diets and of a bunch,
a thousand different species of animals today
and then sort of did jump some genetic analysis, right,
to then look at what the animals might have looked at their ancestors
and then went back, combined that with fossil records,
to look back 800 million years to try to figure out what were things eating back then.
You know?
and the research also found out in doing that
that there are many many more carnivores out there than you'd think
in fact there are more carnivores than there are herbivores
which surprised me yeah I don't know why that's I'm trying to
so now let me before you give us the why why is that
why is that such an assumption we would make is it because you know what it is
because there's so much damn plant life that you just assume well
things would evolve to eat that because that's the prominent thing to eat
and not each other because there's less of that. That's why I would assume that.
Right, right. That's why I would have assumed it. You see when you're kind of when you're looking around in the world too,
I feel like you see a lot of or think about a lot of herbivores. And like you said, there are plants everywhere.
Yeah.
There are, if you put numbers to it, there is a thousand times more in terms of biomass.
Like if you were to take all of the plants in one giant mass,
and weigh it, and then you do the same thing with all the animals, there's a thousand times more
plant biomass than there are animals.
Sure.
So you would think with so much plants available, you must have more herbivores, but not so.
They found out that about 63 percent, according to their analysis, 63 percent of animals
are carnivores and only about a third of animals are herbivores.
How do those, you're probably going to tell us, but how do those?
You're probably going to tell us, but how those break down, like insects, fish.
Yeah, good question.
Just all animals.
In the analysis, I didn't see a breakdown on that level.
But I mean, you know, there are omnivorous, I mean, there are carnivorous and herbivorous.
Both of those, both of those, insects, fish, you know, all kinds of stuff.
So it includes all those.
Only 3% of animals are omnivores, which is also very interesting.
That is interesting.
Totally shocking to me.
I didn't, I don't know why my assumptions would be otherwise.
That's the thing I find most fascinating by this stuff is how, like I've never really thought about it before, but my assumptions would have, if you just said, Scott, gun to your head, you're going to die if you don't get this right.
I still would have said, I would have said herbivores.
Yeah.
No, I would have too.
I don't think, and I think that's the reason why this, this paper was kind of making.
headlines in the science news world was because I think a lot of people make that assumption that
that there are way more herbivores than carnivores. It also makes sense when we think about like
the food chain or the food web. You tend to think that predators, there are fewer predators and
there have to be more down the chain. There have to be more of those things to support the whole
system right sure sure um but apparently that's not the case they um one thing that they looked at
too when they were looking at this analysis that they went way way way way back and they're pretty
sure after this that the first multicellular animal was probably a carnivore um and which is shocking
because they it's long been thought that the first first uh multicellular animal is probably an herbivore
they thought it was a plant eating animal because there would have been because plants were on land like plants were way more successful early on than than multicellular uh what they call heterotrophic life a heterotrophism is um is something that is basically not a plant like it's a it's a cellular or multicellular or singular cell but it um it's an organism that that doesn't create its own energy from sunlight that's a heterotrofe um
and they did real well early on
so by the time
something resembling a mammal
and or lizard or whatever made it to shore
you know we'll go with the cartoon version
of this where they just crawl off
they're like a fish with legs in five steps
yeah but even assuming that
the idea is that this stuff was there
so you would think oh next step
is you would eat that for sustenance
and then you would move on yeah that's crazy
also I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here
but make a very a very
confident
guests that there are way more carnivores
that eat herbivores
than herbivores that eat carnivores.
Yeah.
I say for sure.
That sounds right.
Yeah.
I think that's
I think that's probably true.
The poor herbivores, man.
They're always getting screwed in this deal.
Exactly, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think that's a safe assumption to me.
Bobby, you mentioned
the food web.
I've never actually heard that term
until today tell me what that means i assume it's like you know the structure of how i don't know
how the food works food chain works right my mom was in the amazon studying the food web when she
died you get that damn line right but it's all right they couldn't get that whole movie right so
don't feel bad you could get that whole movie right yeah yeah couldn't couldn't get their their
whole script rights.
They,
the,
you've heard of the food chain.
I have heard of that, yeah.
Well,
scientists,
like,
when you talk about ecology and stuff like that,
we don't really talk about food chains anymore because it's not a chain.
Really,
it's,
chain,
a chain implies like a completely like,
um,
linear.
Single,
yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
A only eats B and B only eats C.
But in reality,
A might eat, B, C, and D.
Yeah.
Also, so you can make a food chain if you're talking about something specific, but talking about food chains doesn't really give you very much information about what's going on in an ecosystem.
So a food web is when you take all the, when you look at an ecosystem, you take all the organisms in that ecosystem, plot them out, and then draw lines between what gives energy to what, you know, like what is consuming what, and then it creates a web.
I kind of want to see that.
Is it cool?
Like, is there a pattern emerge from that?
Oh, yeah, patterns definitely emerge.
First of all, you start, you always start with like the sun in the middle because the sun gives all its energy to all the plants and, and like, you know, things that use chlorophyll and chloroplasts and everything.
And then you, and then from there you'll see what you end up seeing is you have primary consumers.
you know sort of in towards the middle of it because primary consumers are consuming the plants
which are producers producers produce all their own food and energy so they they tend to be
or they are all in the middle then then usually on an outer ring around that you end up seeing
all the primary consumers which are eating the plants and then secondary and tertiary consumers
further out and then all the apex predators in an ecosystem are all the way on the outside of a web
and stuff like that.
Interesting.
Yeah,
I found a few examples of it.
There's some basic ones
like where they only take
tertiary consumers,
secondary consumers,
primary consumers,
and then producers and decomposers.
And then they kind of connect those loosely.
But I'm guessing because there's so much variety
of insect,
mammal,
you know,
amphibian,
whatever,
the web,
the real web is probably insane.
It's like just a million lines
going a thousand directions.
Yeah,
exactly.
What's cool about it, I've done this activity with kids in school before is when you have the kids pick animals that they can represent and they run around the class and use some string and make food webs with each other.
And then if you, if you quote unquote, kill one of the animals and then remove its, like cut its links to the web, and then you start to see that it has sort of a chain reaction and causes other connections to fail and stuff like that.
So it's a really fun way to illustrate how a single organism can be very important to supporting the entire ecosystem, you know, because everything's so connected.
It's probably a discussion for a different show, but the food pyramid that we do, it's kind of bullshit, right?
I don't even think they call it a food pyramid anymore, do they?
I don't know.
I did a search for 2024 food pyramid, and I found one, but I don't know what they, I mean.
If it's really, yeah.
I mean, that was more to show you what percentages of things you should be eating, right?
Like a lot of veggies on the bottom and like a little bit of less dairy and less meat or whatever it is.
So in the food pyramid that we all learned about when we were in school, it was definitely funded by the agricultural.
Brought to you by Texas A&M.
It was because it had like all the grains at the bottom, right?
right exactly
yeah
yeah
so what I'm seeing now is like
there's a plate
and a cup
and then now break it out
like a pie chart
like a pie chart
yeah
so like fruits are this big
grain's that big
how much of the
the plate is pie
because I want to eat that
no pie here
but there's a pretty
pretty good size
dairy
so that's cool
yeah that'll give you
that furt
a little bit of
yes it will
I'm just a good snowbird
if you give me
that much dairy sure yeah yeah so uh so another thing that i learned about when we were when i
was looking through this article that i was reading was that um was that so so the first cellular
we were talking about what we brought up why is it that is that the first um animals were probably
carnivores and and when we talk about first multicellular animals we're talking about not a lot of
cells like still floating around in water and still very small they were they define carnivores
in this paper as
as a creature
that eats other heterotrophes
so things that eat
other organisms that are not plants
things that are not making their own foods
so that's what a carnivore is
and that's kind of what a carnivore
is if you think about it like we define it as
something that eats other animals to get its energy
or has to eat other animals
but uh but they were just
you know trying to make that definition
make more sense for
for microscopic organisms as well.
And so they define it that way.
But the discussion in the paper that was really interesting was why?
Why would it be?
Because you would think, as we already said,
you would think that the question would be,
or that you would think there would be more herbivores.
So then another question would be not why are there so many carnivores now
because we know that there are a lot of carnivores.
They said a better question is,
Why doesn't everything eat plants?
Like, why isn't it that we don't have a ton of herbivores?
And they said that really, especially evolutionarily speaking, breaking down plants requires much more complex bodies.
And it's actually more complex in our digestive system to break down plants.
And it's because the cellulose in.
the cell wall of plants is very difficult to digest it's it's mostly like we don't have a very
easy time digesting it at all um but but animals ruminants which are animals like sheep goats cows you
know they for example have very complex four chambered stomachs um that especially designed to
store like a bunch of bacteria in different parts of the stomach in order to help the bacteria
is what actually is breaking down the cellulose
to help
and it's essentially fermenting the cellulose
for them so that they can consume it.
Rabbits and guinea pigs are another example.
They are called psychotropes.
They, um, or psychotrophs.
And they kind of eat their own poop
in order to re-digest it again
because they couldn't fully digest it the first time, you know?
Like we have a dog who does that.
That's a different reason.
I think that dog is just stupid.
That's what's going on there.
And humans are another, like, we don't have super complicated guts, but we have to cook our plants, for the most part, to be able to eat them and get more nutrients out of them.
That's a big theory as to why cooking and fire became so something that we do a lot is because it unlocked nutritional value in plants and,
meat as well. Oh, that's interesting. Potatoes more edible and corn more edible. And yeah,
I learned something crazy the other day about why in most societies, there is a tradition of
eating greens of some kind before your meal. And here it would be like, oh, it's a side salad
before we bring you the thing. Or in other countries, it's like certain Middle Eastern countries,
it's like handfuls of herbs and stuff. They just, everyone's always got this version of that.
And I, and I can't remember who she was. She seemed to
really smart. I was watching a video.
You said the reason for this is, is the fiber in all of these choices for veggies before
your meal go in there and they basically coat your upper intestines so that when other food
stuff get in there, it acts as kind of a barrier for a lot. Well, it's good. Fiber is good
for you for lots of reasons, but one of them is it's going to be a barrier for higher, higher hits
of like sugar hits and things like that.
Yeah, there's a whole thing about that.
It was really interesting and it made me realize that I don't eat enough.
You know, like if I go, I'm trying to give a good example of this.
If I go to a restaurant, I don't always say, well, let's start with the salad or I'll have the side salad first or whatever.
I should do that more because I think that's, there's like an intrinsic goodness to your system if you, you fill up on the plant material and then you can have your other shit and you're going to have a better time than if you or you're going to have a better nutritional time.
if you didn't or something there's something about all that which is again a whole different show
and i have zero information other than my recollection of a very short video i watched that's interesting
there are lots of benefits to to fiber in our diets and a lot of the benefits we don't understand
why they exist um which is really interesting like like we've observationally seen lots of
health benefits to to high fiber diets but um it's not well understood why and they're starting
to unpack that and think that it has to do with
the gut bacteria that we do have, because that's what I'm actually going to be talking about
when we record the show tomorrow, is this new study that was on a bunch of new bacteria
that was discovered in the guts of people that we actually have a lot more bacteria that
help us digest plant material than we thought we did.
And they're just now starting to figure out what some of the downstream effects of
having that bacteria and eating that high cellulose, high fiber diets could be because the
bacteria consumes it and then produces their own byproducts like enzymes and other chemicals
that could be benefiting us in ways that we don't fully understand yet yeah totally totally cool
totally get that uh well awesome look at us doing morning nutrition info for that's right yeah
so take that everyone out there who just had a burger take that take that i love burgers that's my
favorite food oh i love a burger give me a good burger any day he couldn't
me. I want one now. Now I want one. Yeah, you know what? Just talking about burgers makes you think about
burgers. It makes you want a burger. Might be today. It's true. Yeah. My vegetarian daughter,
notwithstanding, I might have a burger. Bobby, always a pleasure. Thank you for sitting in with us today.
We really appreciate it. It's our favorite burger. Frankenberger. Yeah, the Frankenberger,
the best burger. And you have a show called All Around Science. People should go check that out.
Wherever you get your podcast, it's fantastic. And you should probably listen. You probably have the same episode up
that we talked about last time you were here.
I don't know.
Did you do anything new?
We did do something.
The episode that came out today
is it talks about radiation shielding in space.
But the one that I did talk about last week
that came out the week before
was about AI and everything.
And I do think that you and a lot of people listening
would find that one really interesting
because it's about AI.
And there was a study that was done
looking at how basically chat GPT4
beat all the
humans in a test of creativity.
Oh, wow.
Which is a really interesting new twist.
AI is constantly beating us at everything and now even the thing, we're constantly moving
the goalpost, you know, saying like, well, AI can't do this.
And creativity was one of those like holdouts, right?
We're more creative, but now it's possible that they might be being that.
But more importantly, we had, me and Mora had a really interesting debate because we both
take very kind of nuanced and different stances on what that means for AI and we kind of
went back and forth and debated that whole thing about what is AI what is creativity and is it
even possible is AI even doing that so you should listen all around science that's right that
sounds great what a cool episode go check it out you guys you will not regret it Bobby have a fantastic
I guess week I don't know what we're doing next way I guess are we flipping you and Steven
I think back to yeah we go back to the alternating
yeah it just means you would be you'll now be in schliker's old position he'll be in your new position
i'll have to change my entire calendar forever yeah we'll figure it out i don't know we'll talk to you then
have a good one all right that's probably easiest then he's not doing three weeks in a row you know yeah
no we can't do that and poor poor stephen shouldn't get penalized for having a a blood test oh
just uh just you heard back from him uh sounds like um they they didn't find any blood oh gosh
oh no oh he is the vampire we have all assumed he was crap exactly finally we've got we have
confirmation i thought we were wrong i thought we were overstepping our bounds so too but now sorry hippa
that's fine uh let's get out of here we got a couple quick things i got a word from jeff sire
aka bronco wrote in uh sent an email says scott the whole i like what i like discussion was
great and reminded me of something i don't remember when we did this but we don't either says i have a list
some quotes that I find insightful or inspirational that I keep on my phone. The discussion
reminded me of this one. Quote, when I was 10, I read fairy tales in secret and would have
been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am 50, I read them openly. When I became
a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very
grown up. It's a C.S. Lewis quote. It's very nice. Well, Jeff, that's a nice thing to share.
You're usually telling me I'm a dumbass, but this is a nice thing here that you sent.
It's a nice change, a nice break from everything.
Yeah, it's not true.
He's usually pretty great.
But we also, oh, you got to read this thing from Amy.
What do we get here?
Yeah, this is a Kickstarter that Amy and Chuck let us know about.
A friend of theirs is doing this thing.
It is the three-page RPG.
It's a tabletop RPG whose basic rules fit on three pages.
Perfect for you, Scott.
Read the rules in 10 minutes, make characters in five minutes, play for a lifetime.
Creator Rush, Lila V-V-V-V-V-V-V-V-A.
Sure.
What do you think?
Is that Lila V-V-V-V-V-V-V-O-I?
L-L-I.
L-A-L-H as L-I-H as Leh.
L-L-A-V-V-V-V-V-A.
That's hard to say, I don't know.
Lila V-V-V-V-V-A.
Anyway, he just celebrated his 50th birthday yesterday.
Happy Birthday Rush.
I love tabletop games with deep and rich rule sets,
but over 35 years of playing RPGs,
even veterans can't remember all the rules.
I still have to ask when I get a bonus action.
I thought to myself, a game should be simple to learn yet complex to enjoy for years.
The best games can be played for a lifetime, despite their simplicity.
I hope that I've achieved that with three-page RPG.
Just go to tiny.cc slash 3PRP or go to Kickstarter and search for three-page RPG or six-gun robot.
Wow. I like that.
I would like to see this in full fruition, which it sounds like it will be.
so for sure go check it out
and amy
and lila and lila
so it must be lila vivot
because that's the more recent one she said
lila vivot
lila vivot and the way the phonetic here is
it almost sounds like v needs to be yelled
it's like lila vivot
vivot vat
all right thank you for that
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relaxing deal at the end of the show brian would you bring for sure i don't know if you need it but
i need it scott uh justin mon wrote in i'm doing some playing some catch-up on uh gross on
uh earlier requests that i'm finally getting back to because we had several days where
there were multiple requests so i couldn't get to all of them uh good day slurp and but i'm
having a hard time trying to slow down time and we'll have to relinquish yet another
year of aging to my mortal
being. I'm turning 46.
Yes, cue the old farts version of a happy birthday
snap. All right. Here you go. Happy birthday.
That's right. I would like to
request something maybe a little different
on the show. Something a little more country, but not
full country, but maybe a little alt country.
I'll leave it up to the covermeister to pick a song or cover from one of my
favorite old country artists like Sturgel
Simpson, Zach Bryan, and Tyler Childers.
The morning stream has been entertaining my workdays and
commutes for many, many years.
I can definitely see why I like it.
Can I get a third eagle snippet, perhaps, of the eating grass part?
Oh, my gosh.
Do you have it's grass handy?
I think I do have that handy.
Let's see.
I need to make a whole board of him because he's just always good.
Yeah.
Okay, let's try grass.
Yeah, this is, we got that, don't we?
Don't, no, we're not?
Okay, eats grass.
Okay, here we go.
Is this it?
Okay.
He lives among the beasts and eats grass.
Yep, that's the guy.
He struggled with that one.
It's grass.
Somebody reboot Third Eagle.
Thanks, sign Justin, love the show, though.
Well, you know, you had me at Sturgle Simpson, one of my favorite country kind of crossover acts.
I loved that anime thing that he did.
But prior to that, one of the first songs that I'd heard after his cover of When in Rome was this one that he released on his
the follow-up album, A Sailor's Guide to Earth from 2016.
On it, you'll find this incredible cover of Nirvana's in bloom.
Here's Sturgle Simpson.
Where the change is moves, spring is he,
Reproductive flame
He's a one who likes all our pretty songs
And it likes to sing alone
And he likes to shoot his gun
You don't know what it means
You don't know what it means
To love someone
We can have some one.
We can have some more.
Nature needs a hole
Bruises on the fruit
Tender egg and blue
He's a one who likes all our pretty songs
He likes to sing as long, yeah,
I still shoot his girl
But I don't know what it means
I don't know what it means
To love someone
There's a while
There's the one who
There's one who likes
all our pretty songs
and he likes to sing
home and he likes to shoot his gun
but he don't know what it means
you don't know what it means
no. Now a head's at one
and it likes all our pretty songs
and he likes to sing
flog and he likes to shoot his gun
but he don't know what it means
I don't know what it means
The Lurbs I'm wrong
I'm wrong
I'm wrong
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