The Morning Stream - TMS 2617: 24 Karat Kid

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

I'd use Bunny Ears but it Upsets the Rabbits. Life After Dookie. When I was Seventeen, I Made a Chi Chi T-Shirt. I dont' like to miss TV when I PEEEEEE. Briansplaining Fish. Name another guy from Dire... Straits YOU CAN'T. Mark Knopfler runs Barter Town. THE SLEEPER MUST AWAKEN! That's Where My Legs Go. Putting Hair on George. Trivia for Cartwright? Four? Dun Fiddy. Muadib Alarm. I Want My MTV (I don't like bees). There Is No Game, Only Zuul with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 TMS happens entirely because of the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS, like Spaghetti Syntax, Getty Brigham, and Robert Graham. Coming up on the morning stream, I'd use bunny ears, but it upsets the rabbits. Life after Duky. When I was 17, I made a cheat-che-t-T shirt. I don't like to miss TV when I pee! Brian Splaining Fish. Name another guy from Dire Strait.
Starting point is 00:00:27 You can't. Mark Nafla runs Bata Town. The sleeper must awaken. That's where my legs go. Putting hair on George. Trivia for Cotwright for Dun Fiddy. Maudibalarme. I want my MTV.
Starting point is 00:00:43 There is no game, only Zool. With Dad and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I'm going to ride you little Danny Joe so hard you wish you were all dead. I'm going to chew you up, spit you out, take a big dump on top of that, and then I'm going to get tough. Let's You have a birthmark on your butt The Shape of a Honda key
Starting point is 00:01:06 The Morning Stream smells like Apple Pie Good morning everybody Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Tuesday, March 19th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Abbott. Hi. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Hello. And good morning to you. Good morning to you. We must celebrate by playing two things simultaneously. This and this. Let's party. It's like the old lady and the young people. At the same time, we're going to wish Brian Dunaway a happy birthday today.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Yay. Oh, hi. Brian Dunaway, and happy birthday. Yeah, and then know you, and then he hangs up. That's how it works. Wait, what? What? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:02:06 He's, yeah, he's celebrating his birthday. I honestly don't know the exact age of Brian Dunaway. It's always been a mystery to me. He's not much younger than me. Yeah, I think he's right around the same age as two of us. Yeah, a couple years maybe. Early fitties. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And we're proud of him. We think the world of him, and we hope his day is full of joy and presence. And I don't know what else. And cake. Yeah. Video game, the retro video game things, stuff like that. I wish it was a day we were doing a game with him because it's, you know, right in the middle.
Starting point is 00:02:39 He's the, today's the filling, the double stuff and the Oreo cookie of games with Dunaway at the top of the show. Yeah, he screwed up by doing it today. It's his fault. Or it's his mom's fault or his mom and dad's fault for when they did, you know, when they had the sex. When they did the deed? Yeah. When Pedro went down to Virginia. If you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I think I know what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. Hey, quick note here, we got to remind folks we did a pre-show for our pre-show people. We're doing it again. If you were planning on coming to TMS, Viva, TMS Vegas at the end of April, early part of May, and you were just kind of putting it off thinking, oh, well, I'll get around to it. They'll always be tickets.
Starting point is 00:03:20 There are 18 left. That's it. There won't always be tickets. No. And when those are gone, they're literally gone. That's right. Viva TMSVegas.com for all your vagus-e-tmessi-TMS-Vagacy information. Scroll down to the very bottom of the page and you'll find the ticket link.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Don't forget to get your hotel rooms too, folks. I think the deadline for that, what is the deadline for that? I don't have my, I did a whole little changeover thing. I got an IKEA Scatus, another Scatis board, which is my third one. I don't know what that is. It's the pegboard with a little kind of vertical hole-slot-looking things. sure and um i made the mistake so i set it up this morning it was like oh look there we go it's all all hooked up and i've got little little things that hold game controllers so i have them on the
Starting point is 00:04:07 wall and and uh calendar and things like that i forgot to push so i had to pull the table away from the wall to get the get those things in there i forgot to push it back all the way against the wall. And this is only a problem because my, uh, my standing and sitting desk is pretty close to the edge of this table. And if that table is over, as it was, when I go to raise my, my sitting desk up to standing level, it starts trying to lift that table as well. Oh, yeah, you don't want that. I think, oh, my God, what's this going to do to the motor? What's this going to do to, to that, uh, crap? What, what's going to happen here. Fortunately, I was able to hit stop on the standing desk before it got too bad and get things pushed over.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Okay, so I have a standing desk that I use for guests when they're in here, like Carter and Kim, but also I use it for just stuff to have over here. Yeah. And I can raise it and lower it. It has the controls. They're touchscreen controls, like not touchscreen, but touch controls. Yeah, touch. It's one I have two.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, a little touch panel controls. Yeah, and it's like on top of the thing. and they're kind of mine's on the side okay that's the way to do it you got the proper one the one having them on top is a pink is if i set something on there oh geez suddenly my table's going brr i'm like what's who's doing this and you and it's toggleable it toggleable so it's not i lift off what was pushing it and it stops it i have to find the the button to turn it off or to make it go the other direction and it blends in because it's all dark and black like the surface it's meant to be kind of hard to see but when it's when I'm in a panic because the
Starting point is 00:05:51 thing's rising too much and starting to knock things over yes yeah it's like oh my god where's the button was the button yeah no it's it's on the front which brings up its own problems though because that that's where my legs go I sit and I need to probably redo my desk at some point but I sit on the right edge of my my desk if I sat more towards the middle. It would solve a few problems. I'd have to unscrew and reconnect microphone arms and stuff like that to be able to put monitors in front of me. So I've got my big monitor here, a second monitor here, a third monitor there. Right. And the PC and then the two Mac monitors. And there would have to be, I think I'd have to move this one to the middle and then have a monitor
Starting point is 00:06:37 to the right and then the other monitor to the left and be looking more at the middle of three as opposed to the right than the furthest right of three. I don't know. You know what? I'd love doing it because I think it would be a fun change and it would definitely solve the problem
Starting point is 00:06:50 of this thing hitting my leg, the little panel. I'm not in any danger of hitting the buttons when that thing is on my leg, but it does mean that I have to have the table up a little bit higher than I'd like to because that panel would be right in my leg if I had it as long as I wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Right. Yeah, that's fun sometimes going and redoing that stuff though. I should do that. There's a bunch of things I should change just to kind of freshen it up, you know? Yeah, exactly. There's no reason for me to be, there's no other reason for me to be at this end of the desk when I could be in the middle.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, we'll check back in on your project. We'll report back. Yeah, that'll be, I don't see that happening before TMS Vegas. My God, there is so much stuff to do before TMS Vegas. Yeah, we're not, we don't have time for no desk rearranging before then. But, yeah, get your tickets. They're available now up at VivaTMSVegas.com, all the other. details are there and don't be shy if you want to come to Vegas and hang out with us we are so easy
Starting point is 00:07:44 and nice like oh yeah this is not this is not a high pressure social event guys this is like uh we're all friends here everyone's friendly everyone's nice it's great yeah yeah uh okay we got a text that i need to answer i've got this a ton since the super bowl uh this is just the one i pulled out but i've gotten i don't know a hundred of these no kidding like literally like really a hundred plus of these who say why don't I just use bunny ears every time there's like a live thing like Oscars or Super Bowl or something like that. And most of this was Oscars related because I think that's where I brought it up. Because we had to, you know, we found a Twitch stream that was illegally streaming it or whatever. Anyway, they all want to know why I don't do the bunny ears
Starting point is 00:08:29 slash, you know, antenna thing. Here's the way this one reads. So as you mentioned every once in a while about not being able to watch terrestrial television, why don't you just get an antenna for your TV? Yeah, you most likely will not use it much, but when the Oscars are on, you can watch it if you choose. Or whatever shows you talk about or say, sorry, that you talk about, but say you can't watch without another subscription to pay for. Antennas are relatively cheap. Yeah, I mean, that's true. I just don't know why I don't want to do that. I never, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:03 It's because I grew up with this. That's what it is. I grew up with going, oh my gosh, my dad would say, Time phase, like TV where you had to watch it at the time. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd have to go adjust the damn antenna all the time. Like pre-cable.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Pre-cable, I did. Oh, well, pre-cable. No, these aren't like the bunny ears is totally a different kind of thing. Now it's like this little flat disk or a little card, basically, that you just put somewhere close to a window if you can or somewhere where it can get enough of the signal outside. And your TV does the rest. You basically plug that in, and your TV says, oh, I found an HD antenna, blah, blah, blah, and it finds all of those channels. So then you can say, okay, great, show me the local NBC affiliate, show me the local CBS affiliate, et cetera. I should just do it, just so it's there, in case I need it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It is so set it and forget it. We did it for a while, but it's like, eh, I'm kind of happier now. We've got the Hulu TV package because it still is cheaper because it includes H. X, I'm sorry, Max, and Disney Plus, I guess it includes Disney Plus and a few other things, Discovery or ESPN, which we care about, but it's still cheaper than what we were doing anyway with just Hulu and, what the heck, DirecTV, ATT, yeah, it was DirecTV now. Yeah, basically, basic cable, basically. It's cheap. It's still cheaper than stupid cable. I guess that's the bar that we're kind of looking at is like, Like, all right, are we still under what we were paying for our cable? Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Then we're still doing okay. Is that Hulu TV service have like DVR type stuff or like pause? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You have to remember to record the thing you're going to want to pause because otherwise you don't get that option. Like if you're watching something live, I think you maybe get a five minute pause or something. Oh, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. It's better than nothing. See, that's the other thing I don't like about live. You know, if it's antenna only, obviously it's free. I'm not going to pay for anything. thing except for the the cheap antenna but I want to be able to
Starting point is 00:11:12 get up and pee and not miss things you know yeah I don't know like whatever I don't miss it that much this only comes up when a thing like this happens and in the Super Bowl's case it was on a streaming service I had so I didn't even think about it in the case of the Oscars it was like yeah that was all pretty weird so for those sorts of things maybe it's worth it
Starting point is 00:11:34 now I'm trying to think about where I'd actually put the antenna Yeah, see, that's the thing, because then you have to have this, that one still, at least the one we had used coax cable. And so you still had to have this coaxial cable coming out of the back of your TV. I assume you still do, right? Because antennas are, I don't know. Antentas are coaxed. They don't have, as far as I know, not a USB antenna thing, that I think it still has to be coax. Yeah, they're not going to be HTML or something.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Much harder to get that thing to kind of be hidden, flat up against in a corner or something, because it's this big, stupid, bulky, I hate bending kind of coax cable or more coax cable is, nope, I've been in a coil for the last several months in an Amazon warehouse. I am staying in this coiled position. Yeah. I think we found a neighbor with a scrambler, by the way. I think that happened. Really? Yeah. A scrambler. Yeah. So this is the thing, there was some controversy years ago about some movie theater chain was going to implement this so that people couldn't use their phones in the movie theater and they got in trouble for it because you can't shut down communication or whatever. But this, somebody in a house over here, when I go, when I either walk past it or drive past it, all communication devices go, they shut off.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Really? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, not shut off, but all, all satellite, all everything, nothing. Yeah, your signal drops just while you're by that house. Yeah, so I think there's some guy in there who's like, hey, letting the government listen to me or whatever. Something like that. I want to know who it is.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So I can just, I don't know, I just want to know. I don't need to talk to him. I don't need to know anything else about his life. I just want to know who the paranoid guy up the road is who blocks it all. Because if you're driving your car, two things will happen. Even if I'm listening to terrestrial radio in the car, which is an antenna, I hear it go. It'll skip sometimes. So like a song will be like, I don't know, shiny, happy people, whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then it'll go shiny, shiny, happy, peep, people like that. As you're going past this one place. And nowhere else. And right there, my phone stops working. Any calls you're having go off? Some guys got like a freaking monster scrambler job in there. No kidding. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, pretty cool, right? I mean, I don't, is it, is it illegal? IMachead says it's illegal to do that, and I should report him. Is that true? I assume you don't have a way of proving it. Not really, right? But it certainly seems like it's definitely the case, right? Yeah, how do I, I mean, I guess I could probably skis.
Starting point is 00:14:06 some sniffer equipment but i don't want to go that far yeah no that's a long way to just report some guy for the uh for to the FCC but uh fccc maybe i don't know is there can you report a suspicion of that to the FCC and they'll just send somebody out to with their own sniffers and figure it out oh that's interesting say yeah i got a suspicion every time i go by here but but here's what's funny the government themselves do this because they make the rules when i go past the nsa data storage place that's out here when i drive past that that same problem everything shuts off phones quit working um i'm sure it's in the vein of national security or whatever but all that shit goes off is the exact same problem
Starting point is 00:14:46 and the music skips and acts weird when i go by this this uh nsa building that they built so so i can't i mean the government can do it i guess we can't i guess is what this comes down yeah exactly uh we can do it it's allow we've allowed ourselves do it you can't do it yeah and this guy probably has a real beef about that if I had to guess he's over there going well every time I go over the point of the mountain they shut it down how come I can't do it I thought this is America I don't know I don't know what's going on over there but I like that sounds like what it might be that's nuts it's pretty crazy that um all right what else oh so many things today uh let's get to this one we have a lot yeah you uh you went you made a guess here that's interesting um
Starting point is 00:15:31 And am I right or wrong? Well, I changed my alarm. And damn it, you might be right. Here's what I did. I decided to change my alarm. I've been impressed, by the way. We've had an entire film sack and an entire episode yesterday of TMS where the four-letter word was not mentioned. So I'm totally fine that, you know, it's two days later we can finally have a mention of it.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah, we can finally say the word Dune again and feel okay about it. I am very obsessed with Dune. Everyone knows this right now. I can't stop thinking about it. It's all I want to talk about. It's all I want to think about. Yeah, and I'm reading books and just, you know, just all in right now. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So I changed my phone alarm when I get a, when I get, when I wake up in the morning. Uh-huh. No one's happy about this, except me. Here's the sound. That lady just re, just yelling. that's that's what i do yeah that's you wake up to that yeah now i get up i get the hell up with that i don't lay around i don't hit snooze i'm not like you know it's just like 7 a okay rafiki sounds like uh i love that so much and what i love about it is it it works straight up
Starting point is 00:16:55 in bed like it works just like it works like um almost like it doesn't movie there's a lot of times in the movies in part one and two where there'll be kind of a quiet moment of just sort of Han Zimmer kind of oh and then suddenly that lady'll go like out of nowhere you know and just make you jump a little bit it's like that it's a lot like wow yeah oh no way nope no i've got that i've got that i've got that slowly building escalating built in um the good iPhone alarm that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't You know, isn't the bang, bang,
Starting point is 00:17:34 bang, that horrible one. The one that seems to come up as default if I'm like, oh yeah, hey, S-I-R-I-S-A-R-I-S-E-A-C-L-A-C-L-O-N-A-C-R-A-L-L-L-A-L-U-T-A-B-E-W-E-B-E-W-E-B-E-E-W-E-E-B-E-E-W-E-E-B-E-E-W-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-E-L-E-L-E-L-L-L-E. Not that one.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Oh, God, no. That sucks, right? Don't do that one. That sucks. Let's see if I, I don't, it's, um, I don't even know if I can make it play automatically. Let's see. I'm trying to find another one that's less. Um, it is the early risers, what it's called.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Let's see. Oh, I bet if I saw it. Oh, this one. This is it? Or it starts up pianoy? Yeah. One that kind of slowly builds up. That's such a nice one.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Oh, yeah. This isn't bad. Because, okay. But what if you. Yeah, and it rises slowly gets... It rises slowly, yeah. Where does this max out? Hold on this here. Oh, I guess it goes back and forth, so it goes...
Starting point is 00:18:41 Okay, but what about this? The combo. Yeah, what about that? You know, it's fine if maybe you have the screaming lady singing voice about a minute into that so that you have time to turn it off before that happens. Well, good news. everybody don't worry tomorrow my recommendal will have nothing to do with
Starting point is 00:19:05 Dune at all it'll be completely Dune unrelated oh I'm sorry it's completely has something to do with Dune and you're going to all have to deal with it all right what what is there left to talk like recommend that it's Dune that hasn't already been done oh I guess there's one you'll have to wait and find out
Starting point is 00:19:21 yeah it's going to be real good also speaking of loud things we got a call about that tiny little fish that the one that make that popping sound. It was just loud for fish. Yeah, which is, you know, fine and all, but this call's a little strange in terms
Starting point is 00:19:39 of what their take is. So anyway, here's a 20-second call about that. Hello, shot and bullet. This is Mike from Tampa, Florida. I was listening to CMS-2-609 about the tiny fish that has
Starting point is 00:19:55 a bullet loudness. And I think it's a gun with a silencer. Okay, I love the show. Bye. I don't exactly know what he means. Like, I don't, he means it's a, like, yeah, so we had the, we had the story about the fish that made a sound that was as loud as a bullet. And we figured out that it's loud, it's as a bullet in proportion to the size of the fish. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Compared to, like, a gun or, you know, whatever. Right. And he's just saying that it's, it's a gun with a silencer. It's, it's, the fish is as loud as a gun with a silencer. not as loud as a gun I get it all right it took me a minute
Starting point is 00:20:35 well no it took me more than a minute it took me until it took me until just right now where Brian helped me understand so now I get it that's what I'm here for I'm here to I'm here to Brian's explain things that's right
Starting point is 00:20:45 which would you rather have that fish wake you up or this the second is the answer that's the correct answer between the two I think you might be right yeah if you're going to take a pop and fish yeah if you're giving me the lesser of two evils
Starting point is 00:21:00 situation, yes. Yep, that's fair enough. All right. Also, you've got a little trivia for me. I have a little trivia for you. By the way, did you ever find out the answer to, you, you had tweeted me. I just realized we were talking about Brian splaining things, and you would ask me about Tina Turner's private dancer. Oh, someone wrote, I never did get an answer.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, it is. Mark Knopfler did write private dancer. I had no idea. I love the fact that the guy tweeting says, some guy from dire straits. Yes, some guy. He's a guy from dire straits. There are other guys that die straits, but there's name any other guy. Yeah, yeah, Mark Knopfler is the big, he's the big dude.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So that song, when I hear her do private dancer, dancer for money, do what you want me to do, all that. That's Knopfler telling me that, kind of. Right, that's Knopfler telling you he wants to be a private dancer. That was going to be recorded for, I mean, he had written that, he didn't write that with the intention of giving it to Tina Turner. Okay. But Tina Turner was a. not she was an incredible singer yeah um but a lot of the things that you think of songwise of hers are not written by her um that better be good to me is uh um the one the song she did with the fix
Starting point is 00:22:14 was written by the band suite you remember the band suite i do room blitz yeah yeah i liked them at the time uh what's love got to do with it was uh somebody else uh all her hits it sounds like Terry Britain. Yeah, basically all our hits were written by somebody else. But you know what? That's fine. She doesn't need to do that. She's like most of these. They're all like that. They're all like that. The big stars. They got other people doing their shit. It's totally fine. I found a... Her phone song was by somebody else. Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, well. I know who runs Barter Town. Same pair, actually. Graham Lyle and Terry Britton. Terry Britton wrote a lot of stuff for Olivia Newton, John. Mark Knopfler runs Barter Town. is what you're telling me. That's what I'm saying. Yes. Excellent. He'd be a great barter town runner.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'd vote for him. You would be great, yes. Here is a... Here's for me for bartertown. A lot of people. A lot of people saying, I can't run bartertown. And I think... Again, that email address is coverville.
Starting point is 00:23:20 At gmail.com. Yeah. Here's a... Sleepy masterblaster. Sleepy masterblaster. Can't run bartertown. By the way, this is the single point of exposure I will have to that man during this year. I'm not, I will pay attention to nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:37 My impersonations of it will be the, that'll be it, your only exposure to, that's fine. I'm happy to do that for you. Yeah, to him or the other guy. Don't care who's in it. I'm not paying attention this year, all right? I just am it. Hey, listen to this. You know, the big wall around those pigs, got to keep those pigs.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's perfect. The lifeblood of Barbertown, Buttertown. Yeah, if you don't have those pigs, what do you even have? haven't barter town put up that wall uh there's a this is a somebody made a version of private dancer if it was played by dire strait so i'm just played oh really okay let's see what we get here i just found this all right get to the meat here so this is is this AI created while they're no it's a guy it's a dude okay somebody's playing places
Starting point is 00:24:29 and they are all the same. Ooh, a little tone deaf. A little tone deaf. A little tone deaf. But you could see it though. You could see it, right? Totally can see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 That kind of more groovy sort of. Yeah, I mean, you know, he, Mark Knopfler, his songwriting, his singing, frequently had other characters he was singing about and singing from the perspective of these other characters. Romeo and Juliet, my favorite song of all time, Not cover, not anything like just my favorite flat-out song of all time, Romeo and Juliet by a dire straits, is sung from the perspective of this, you know, lovestruck Romeo, who's in love with this girl named Juliet, but it's modernized. It's not the Shakespearean thing.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It's just a modernized thing. Yeah, I love, dude, I could not, brothers in arms, that record, I wore that tape out. I wore it out. Do yourself a favor. Go listen to Skateaway. Or is it called Skateaway? No, the album is Making Movies.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's a lyric from Skaidaway that the title comes from. That is an incredible album. All right. I don't think I've heard it. As commercially successful as as I want my MTV, as Brothers in Arms was,
Starting point is 00:25:43 making movies was a, let's say, it is the, it is the Nebraska to Dyer Straits born in the USA. Like the equivalent of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska who was born in the USA with all the hits. Oh, I see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, that's cool. Making movies is the equivalent. It's like, uh, licensed to ill compared to Paul's boutique for, uh, for, uh, for the Beastie Boys. Yeah, right. License had all the hits, Paul's boutique a little bit, uh, it was like the better album, but it was, but it was different than the hits, yeah. The, uh, oh God, what's the, what's the album that everybody says is when Green Day was good and they, they hate everything else afterwards, or is it, or is it Weezer?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh, green, people always say Duky. Who had, Weezer was Pinkerton, right? That's right, yeah, Pinkerton was Weaser. And they always say, oh, Pinkerton was their last good album. And then everything after that was... People say that about Duky for Green Day, but they're wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They're wrong, okay? They are wrong. They are wrong. There are so many, there's so much good Green Day after Duky. Dukey was great. Don't get me wrong, but... Yeah, no. What's the Elmuth warning that had the things over the face of the eyes?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Oh, I love. that song that album's great that new album is amazing their new stuff's really good savior whatever it's called it's freaking fantastic so good life after ducky that's right uh all right let's do this we should get to this right so uh scott taskinin sent us some trivia questions some sinfeld trivia questions for you i watch a lot of signfeld all the time yeah excellent it was on last night last night before bed more signfeld we do this it's a tradition in this house then I'm guessing one of these questions you'll say this was the episode we listened to last night Brian might have been yeah we'll see all right question number one in the dinner party episode Jerry gets sick from a black and white cookie and has to end his vomit streak when was the last time he vomited 1980 shoot I know so much about this this is the answer here he's got the day of the month and date
Starting point is 00:27:55 too, but you should probably not say another word after that. You could stop right there and at least get the year right. Yeah. All right. So 1980, but what's the rest of it? June 29th and 19th. Oh, I can hear him say it now. If you get the year, I feel like you're good.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Okay. I'll take a point. I'll give you a point for that. How did Jerry and George meet? They met, okay, so they knew each other in high school. There's a bunch of episodes. There's one episode where they even flashed back to high school and they put hair on George for it. Oh, God, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah, because it's about their coach. And they got a wedgy and he screamed and made the birds fly and all that. That's stupid. Where did they meet, though? Where did they meet? Oh, my gosh, I'm not going to get this one. It's more like how did they meet? Like what event caused the two of them to meet?
Starting point is 00:28:59 How did Jerry and Georgia meet? I don't remember. What is this one? It was in gym class when George fell on Jerry's head. Damn it. All right. I knew it's something school related. It's always they always talk about that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 All right. So far one and one and one and one out of two. You're bat in 50. Okay. What job did George quit because his boss wouldn't let him use his personal bathroom? Oh. that wasn't the industrial smoothing one that was the one with mr carlson who was the boss um they couldn't fire him though because he had a fake
Starting point is 00:29:37 he had a fake disability oh i don't remember his name what was the job i just need the job like what was the what did he do uh yeah what did they do they do there. I don't remember what they did at the Mr. Carlson place. What is it? He was a realtor. Oh, shit. Two for three.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Or one for three. I am thinking of the right job, though, right? I think so. I can't remember the, you've got me on the name. I can't remember the name. I just remember it being, uh, I'm doing terrible. All right. One out of three.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Keep going. One out of three. All right. You'll get, you'll get this one. What movie was Jerry wanting to see? after eating at the Chinese restaurant. Oh, uh, uh, I just saw, we literally just saw this one again. Like two nights ago, two nights ago, there's James Hong, there's the whole cartwright thing.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Like, we just saw it. One of the best episodes of the show ever. It's also a landmark episode where you, where Seinfeld knew what it was going to be forever after that. Yeah, yeah. It's an important episode. And an episode can't take place in a cell phone world. Right. No, absolutely. George's whole side of it, he's screwed. Yeah. That whole George thing is, is,
Starting point is 00:30:53 done and you would have made your reservation on open table and frick what movie he was wanting to go to the movie he didn't want to go alone elaine was like forget it i'm going home i'm going to get white castle and he says i can't go see such and such alone this would have been like 91 or two how my gosh dude this is the one i thought for sure you get i'm it's i'm going to hear it and be mad what is it it's plan nine from out of shit i knew that you know what got in the way it was like
Starting point is 00:31:31 all the other references they make yeah rochelle washell yeah rochelle a young whatever's journey from the milan what it's called sack lunch uh the the whole uh you made out during um schindler's list all of that stuff was in here going english patient i think had a thing yeah the english patient was the one where uh she hated it so bad but she She kept going, and she finally saw it with Peterman, and Peterman said, Elaine, you don't like sat, you're not sack lunch, you don't like the English patient. She goes, I hate it. He goes, well, you're fired then.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And that was the end of that. That's right. See, I would have known that. Who did she go see the English patient with the final viewing of it? She went to see it with Jay Peterman. All right. Right, all right. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Number five, you're one for four. You're going to turn things around. I know you are. Number five, what is Kramer's alter. ego. His alter ego. Yeah, there's a name that he uses. It's not Cosmo Kramer then.
Starting point is 00:32:30 It's something else. It's not Cosmo. It's, yeah, exactly. Not his real name, but this. Alter ego. So like, like when he's faking something or whatever. Right, exactly. Yeah, his, yeah, I was going to say nom to plume, but like, uh, right.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, there's a couple of them, but probably, oh, I'm thinking of George with, uh, the importer, exporter. Yeah, Art Vandalay. So this is probably the Dr. Van Nostrand one where he's got the mole. He just finds the mole on that guy. You know what? I'm going to give you that because that's not the answer they have here, but that is another one he uses.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Hec. Penny Packer is the other one that Craber uses at some point. Right. So I'm going to give you that one. Two for five. Okay. Which two actors played parents in Seinfeld and then also work together in Twin Peek. Oh, I know that. And I don't need the actual actor names I need to know whose parents they were.
Starting point is 00:33:31 George's dead fiancé's parents. Correct. And you know why, the only reason I know that is it's impossible for that. Susan's mom, the lady that plays Susan's mom, it's impossible to see her as anything. Well, she's good and everything. Don't get me wrong. She's good and everything. But you can't not see her as Laura Palmer's whacked out mother.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah. That's 100% it. yeah she's it's just impossible to see her in anything else without seeing it you can still appreciate the role she's in there's no problem with it she didn't get high typecast it's just that you're reminded and you're like oh yeah twin peaks lady nice job yeah all right all right so uh you are three for six you're not bad up to 50 percent yeah i love being in the middle it's great this is going be a tough one what three jobs do kramer and mickey share okay once once is the uh the stand-in actors for um other actors so like they they pull them in yep correct that's one mickey played the
Starting point is 00:34:29 little kid and he played the adult the father uh so there's one two was uh Santa an elf I believe yes that's two very good and third which by the way is funny because that same dude played Mickey played an elf in bad Santa it's bad Santa yeah uh is it the same was it is the same guy same actor yeah he's great in that um and then the third oh boy uh oh they had to fake diseases for uh the hospital so that the learning patience very good yep that's all three good job you're uh that's three points oh okay i was hoping it's three points oh no you should you know what okay sure sure why not we run the rules here it's fine all right i feel good about that what were Elaine and Jerry's roles in
Starting point is 00:35:22 the bris Jerry was Jerry had to Are they separate? Yeah Jerry had to hold the baby Yes Very good
Starting point is 00:35:35 And Elaine Oh what did Elaine do Okay that guy Was all like nervous and weird Jerry didn't want to do it Because he was all shaky and freaky What did Elaine have to do? I don't remember her job.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'll give you one point for Jerry holding the baby. Elaine had to find the moyle. Oh, she got the guy. She had to find the oil. Okay, fair enough. Well, I'll mention this later. I'm not going to use it for recommendals, but I watched Ricky Stenicki.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Ricky Stenickey. Ricky Stenickey. It's a new movie, kind of in the vein of like wedding crashers and the whole, that whole style of movie, but it's John Sina. Premises that these guys, ever since they were kids, have been using this made-up fictitious name, Ricky Stenicki, to blame anything they got in trouble for on. So, like, you know, they, on Halloween were pranking somebody and they set the house on fire and they blame it on on this kid named Ricky Stenicki instead of it being them. They made up this name. And he plays, uh, who plays Ricky Stenicki?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Is that? Well, I'm getting to. I'm getting to. Oh, okay. You're getting to me. I really quickly paraphrase this for you to get to the premise. Go ahead. And, uh, so growing up, they decide, hey, anytime we need to do something, we'll, we'll blame
Starting point is 00:37:08 it on Ricky Stinicki. So they, you know, when they, they get married, they're like, ooh, you know, our, uh, sorry, uh, hun, we need to go be there for Ricky Stinniki. He's got cancer. He's visiting. But he's out in Atlantic City We need to go see him And then they go to Atlantic City
Starting point is 00:37:22 To have a boys weekend So they eventually come up to this point Where they have to hire somebody To be Ricky Snicky So the wives don't get suspicious And they hire John Sina Who's this porn actor Poirn Actor impersonator in Atlantic City
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's down to clown It's really funny Up until the last 20 minutes where they feel like they've got to provide a resolution to everything. And that, for me, that's when the whole thing kind of falls apart. Oh, it's got Firefly star, Firefly star Zach Ephron in it. Let's see. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yes. Yeah. That's cool. Andrew Santino. Anyway. Not bad. Yeah. I'm not going to use it as a recumental because I feel like the ending kind of missed the boat.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But anyway, all right. Back to the questions here. Number eight, what would George drape himself in? if it was socially acceptable. What would he drape himself in? Oh, shit. It's a very specific reference. It's a very specific reference.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And he says drape, but I think the correct word is askance. Ensconced in. Well, I think it was just, I think it was just like velvet or something. It is velvet. Is it velvet? Is that right?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Velvet. Yes, correct. Oh, that's right, because he said if he could, he would just, he would be entirely covered in Velvet all the time. That's right. I'd like to be a scons, in Sconson Velvet. What show did Jerry claim he doesn't watch and even took a lie detector test to prove? Oh, oh, oh, and he's dating, he's trying to date the cop girl who gives him the test. It all goes wrong. What show? Yeah. What show did he swear that he never watched? Oh, some kind of thing he would hate normally, but he really wanted to impress her. Oh, my gosh, Scott. Come on. Is it like, okay, we're talking early mid-90s.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It was something that was on, so it was a referential thing. Oh, oh, oh, not 90-2-0. The other one, young people living together in an apartment thing complex. Oh, Melrose Place. Very good. Oh, geez. Well done. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That hurt. That looked like it hurt, yeah. All right. All right. Who won the contest episode out of the main four? Okay. Kramer was out first. Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm out. I'm out because of the neighbor lady who was naked. Gary didn't make it because he gave up. Elaine didn't make it because of junior. Not Junior Soprano. I should clear that up. That was, right. So probably, I guess that's just George's left.
Starting point is 00:40:29 No one else was in it. So Jerry technically won because in the very, in the final episode, the Seinfeld finale, George admitted that he cheated. So he actually was out before Jerry. That's a dirty question. That's good. That's a dirty question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Ah, crap. I forgot he did that. We just got four more of these. Okay. When Jerry was changing the tape in George's girlfriend's answering machine, what did George yell to warn Jerry? Like, her coming. They had a secret code to...
Starting point is 00:41:04 I think it was something like tiptoe or... Tiptoe. I'm going to give it to you. It's tippy toe. Oh, tippy toe! Tipy toe! Tipy to! Oh!
Starting point is 00:41:17 I love that one. Okay. All right. What phrase does Frank Costanza replace Serenity now with? Oh. He replaced it? He replaced it. Oh, this one is going to be a hard one.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's not where he was going. Is it the one where he's yelling Hoochie Mama all the time? It's the one where he's, yes. Oh, I thought those were separate things. Things. I thought those were different episodes. The way that Scott wrote it in here, it's he replaced Reni Now with Hoochie Mama. Okay. All right. Hucci. I have those separate, but I guess that's the same episode.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Because they only did that one episode, right? I don't think there was multiple episodes. I think just one episode, yeah. Yeah. Okay. One of Elaine's boyfriends shares his name with what serial killer? Oh, son of, not son of Sam. Hold on. Oh! They're at the base. baseball game somebody says would a I can't remember I can't remember the name
Starting point is 00:42:30 she wanted him to change it and they went through like all these names like Alex and all this stuff and they never I can't remember Joel Rifkin Oh man I should have got that I've seen that one a hundred times All right and then yeah now this last one this last one I'm not sure how we're going to
Starting point is 00:42:50 score this one but question 15 final question when George tries to parallel park by backing in he gets blocked by another car pulling in who's parking spot is it whose spot does it belong to oh that's a weird question
Starting point is 00:43:05 so the whole fight of that is whoever backs in first should get the thing exactly yes the guy's that little crazy bald actor who gets his hands broken in a different episode and Jerry's trunk shows up at that funeral
Starting point is 00:43:20 and tells everyone Jerry's a psycho killer or something but that's not the same I don't know if we can even I don't know if we can score this one based on the answer that he gives because nobody
Starting point is 00:43:34 the problem the whole episode teetered around this idea and they stay there all the way through night there's like a kid who has an opinion cops have opinions they can't decide I remember two cops having an argument and one of them was with George, the other was with the other guy. With the other guy. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it ever, did it get resolved? That is the
Starting point is 00:43:57 answer is shrug. Oh, that's the answer. Well, then I think I got that then. You did get that. All right. I'll take that point. All right. You know what? In the end, I think I did better than I thought I was going to do. I think you did, you did very well. Yeah, you, you rallied at the end and did really well coming back around. Oh, that was great. That was awesome. Melrose, Melrose Place and Tippy Toe and Hucci Mama and yeah, very good. It helps justify the many, many rewatches I have done of Seinfeld. Very nice. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 00:44:24 That was awesome. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, we're going to be joined by our good friend and friend of the program, Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man. Ooh, yay. Yep, we're going to start thing out, some stuff out with some medical stuff. I know some people love that. Some people hate that. And then we're going to talk about board games.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Guess what? Some people love that. Some people hate that. I love it. I love it. I love it. board game time. I love it all. Let's bring it on. So we're going to do that in a minute, but let's do it
Starting point is 00:44:49 after a song, if you please. Yes, let's go to Munich for this band. Mionic Jomene. This is pop punk and emo, which has seen a remarkable resurgence over the past year. These guys consider themselves to be part of the genre,
Starting point is 00:45:07 but they're sound as close to the likes of Jimmy Eat World and taking back Sunday. They are a music-based band, but they're fronted by a Welsh lead singer, a guy named Nick Sauter, and they've made quite an impact on the European music scene. This is their new single called My Favorite Place,
Starting point is 00:45:25 featuring Kaylee Goldsworthy. Here is Cadet Carter. Scratch my face By my tongue Walking the streets Not moving on Came too close To the fire
Starting point is 00:46:02 Still the same I'm on the wire Come a little closer to the edge I'm on the roller coaster through the ditch I'm done Move a little closer to the fridge I'm feeling so much lighter And I'm gone You're gone
Starting point is 00:46:24 My favorite With you around No factions No directions My favorite place That when you're gone You're gone But I hope you're dreaming is big today
Starting point is 00:46:43 Went too far To make it home Feels like I'm lost in space syndrome Because there's no place for me in this cloud I want out I want out I'm a little closer to the edge of honor When I twisted through the ditch I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'm not Move a little closer to the French I'm feeling so much louder than one inch than not You're gone My favorite tones with you around No affections No directions No directions
Starting point is 00:47:31 My favorite place When you're young, you're gone, gone I hope you're dreaming big today Hey, you're no feet on the ground No place in this town And you never come down at all No way to flame Your waves
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's just a face And I hope you're dreaming big today Closted to the edge I'm on the roller coaster Through the ditch I'm done My favorite towns Save you alone No affection, no action, no No direction
Starting point is 00:48:12 No direction No direction My favorite place And when you're young, Gone, gone, I hope you're dreaming big today My favorite sounds with you No directions
Starting point is 00:48:27 No directions No affections No sexxion My favorite place When you're gone, young I hope you're dreaming big today If I didn't know that tail was attached to a horse's rear end, I'd swear it was shares. Take a cell, tablet.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And we've returned regalus with the information you gave us before the song. Happy to do it. By the way, big things to earshot media and S-BAM records for this one. Cadet Carter is the band you just heard. That song is called My Favorite Place. Go check if their brand new album comes out the middle of April, April 12th called Self Maintenance. Nice. I like a little self-maintenance.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I did that yesterday. I sat in the sun. Yeah, soaked in some vitamin D, you know? Got that D going. Oh, I did some of that myself. I sit inside too much. I love the D. Got to get that D.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Now we're going to get some more D. Here's a tangent for you. Be careful. may cause drowsiness. That version of D is called Dan. Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man, joining us from North Carolina, as he always does each and every month.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Hi, Dan, welcome back. Yes, sir, greetings programs. Hey, man. How are you boys? Good, good. Are you, you're in the thick of the... Well, how does hockey season for the kid work during regular hockey season?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Is it all tied together? You know what I mean? Well, all the Northeast, like, Boston prep schools are all done. They ended like a couple weeks ago. It's all spring break right now. DJ being in Canada, he's got one more weekend of playoffs and then he'll come home Sunday for his spring break and then head back early April. I think the 7th, he's got to be back on campus.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So basically most seasons are kind of winding down. If people are playing like AAA travel in like the U-16, U-14 and such that, the nationals are going to be going on around that same weekend, that's out in Vegas this year. But DJ's not playing any of that. He's just playing the prep. So once he goes back for after spring break. he'll be playing lacrosse on campus so it's oh that's cool all right but you know going to school primarily so uh and he just got uh honor roll so i'm proud and oh very nice good for him that's awesome aren't the chances are higher than not that you could have a kid in the n hl one day if he if he keeps
Starting point is 00:50:56 pushing right maybe no no no you don't think so you don't think so no um listen i am i'm a dad very very biased he's not that good no no i'm very very biased he is very he i'm biased but he is a very very good goalie, but to get to the show, that's just, you've got to be, you've got to be exceptional, the, you know, the 0.001% best and best. Now, don't get me wrong. Anything can happen, but no, his goal is just to play in college. So he's got to play a couple more years of prep school, then play juniors. And then he just wants to play in college, whether it be D1, D3, you know, wherever he, I think he's good enough to play D3. If he keeps going, he's had some D1 scouts talking to him, but that's kind of their job. I'm not really, that's pie in the sky stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Like, he was talking to BC and BU. Those are number one and number two. And I was really surprised that those guys came up to DJ and we're like, oh, hey, I saw your game the other day against so-and-so. I'm like, yeah, but just use that as good confidence builder. But those guys, they've got their pick of every kid in a world. So, you know, just use that as confidence builder. Keep yourself going. Keep working hard, knowing that you're, you know, people are seeing it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But really, you know, he just wants to play somewhere in college, have fun, and then just, you know, get a life. get a career, you know, and live his life, whether it be, whether it be, that was really a bad, bad choice of words, but you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Just no delusion is a grandeur that he's going to be going anywhere. You know, if those things happen, great. If not, you know, he's just, he, you know, he's a student athlete. So he's got to be the student first.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And that, um, coming out of COVID is hard because everybody was learning online and he's not one of those kids. He's got to be in a school to learn. So I'm very proud of him now. No, that's awesome. On a roll and all that. It's just funny because kids, like 90s kids all thought they could be. Michael Jordan and kids today
Starting point is 00:52:40 I'll think they can be Mr. Beast and you know what I? There's always this stuff where it's like this anybody can be a gigantic whatever and it's statistically kind of dangerous to give them too much hope in that zone you know what I mean? Like you don't want to give them too many
Starting point is 00:52:56 and then if they exceed your expectations great they become the next Lemieux, great that's awesome but you don't know you know plus you want him to keep his teeth you want his teeth to remain in his mouth and not all over the night. No, he's worried about his teeth.
Starting point is 00:53:10 He said goalies don't ever, I never see goalies getting fights much. It doesn't happen very often. Well, they do in a pros, but like even fighting in like juniors and stuff like that, that's still kind of rare. Usually it's the freak accident of a puck going, you know, here or there.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And most of these leagues now, especially most of the junior leagues and, you know, prep school and stuff, you wear full cages. And DJ has, you know, obviously he's a goalie, so wears a goalie mask. He doesn't wear any of those weird cat-eye goalie mask, which are kind of illegal in the U.S. and they're more illegal because sticks can get in there
Starting point is 00:53:40 not necessarily for pucks to get in there but I'm not really too worried about him as far as that you worry more about his knees and anything else he's actually had a couple of weird kind of falls one time a kid came this year a kid came his own teammate came through the crease an accident and absolutely slew footed him what that means is he basically came from behind his leg
Starting point is 00:53:59 and just almost like split him in air and he fell in his elbow and had to come out of the game but he was fine it's just kind of like a stinger you ever hit your elbow and you just can't grab anything yeah yeah yeah it seems like it'd be a little worse if you did that there but he's young he can he'll repair you know oh yeah well he was he just basically had to miss the rest of the game because he couldn't really grab it you know after about an hour or two unit of nerves and everything else just you know all that blood flow started coming back and it was fine but it was just kind of
Starting point is 00:54:24 these freak freak occurrences i've had this theory for you worry about everything sure i've had this theory for a long time about hockey that the reason it's it it you know it's known for fighting it's kind of stereotype right but i think that all came out of the fact that you You guys get into the most uncomfortable, smelly freaking gear to play that game. You're hot as hell. Everyone thinks, oh, you're on the ice. It's a nice way to keep things cool. No, dude, I've been around hockey players.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You guys are disgusting. You sweat like pigs. You smell horrible. Your gear, if you put your gear in the basement of a house, sell the house. Because, gosh, dang it, it's bad. It stinks so bad. So that's why you guys are fighting. That's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You fight because you're gross and you're uncomfortable and you're hot. That's what's going. on in some guys what they'll do is they'll make their gear even worse so that we're in the corner with somebody that person doesn't want to be there for too long with them because they smell that they smell that bad i've heard people do that i don't know how much that actually works but i have heard guys say that they used to do that would leave it in their trunk so that when they were in the corner guys would would skate away from them i mean when you go on these road trips and you're airing out your gear between games in a hotel room that is the worst like you kind of get like immune to it
Starting point is 00:55:34 but it when you go in there after going out to dinner and you come back you're like like, oh, my God. It's so bad. It's like a wall of scent. It's just so bad. I had a friend named Bill in high school, and his gear stunk so bad. I didn't play hockey, but he did. And I would come into his house and his poor mother, she was just like, oh, Scott, welcome.
Starting point is 00:55:51 It's good to see her. Do you want anything to eat? There's plenty in the fridge, blah, blah, blah. But all I can think about is I'm breathing in something that feels like it's tangibly thick in the air. And it's this kid's freaking nasty ass gear. Oh, so bad. I feel bad for her. go to some sometimes you go to like war you know and it's in the south so when you go to tournaments
Starting point is 00:56:11 and stuff like that especially towards the end of the season uh between games guys are putting their gear out on the lawn to try and air it out it looks like a yard sale with all just people's gear everywhere to try and air it out between games the whole town smells like a paper factory or something gross like that like a danin yogurt factory disgusting anyway well uh i got a call back for from the Seinfeld stuff you said oh yeah yeah um so you were talking about how uh kramer one of my favorite ones was Kramer and Mickey when they were doing the diseases with with with with when they're when they're when they're doing for the med school diseases yeah um we we we in pharmacy school there's a thing there was like a counseling competition we used to have to do uh in pharmacy
Starting point is 00:56:49 so you're studying up in a lot of diseases and then uh you know in a lot of different ways that you would have to counsel a patient and we would have like um they they actually in a pharmacy they have a room that's a mock up pharmacy just so that you could practice these things because you go to national competitions and they would give you like uh they would give you like a a couple of prescriptions and a patient would come up, you'd have to look at them, you know, to pretend to give them to them, and they would grade you on how you counsel the patient. Sometimes you would have to figure out, like,
Starting point is 00:57:16 what other disease states were going on, the fact that these two drugs couldn't go together. So it was really crazy, but it kind of reminds me of that whole, that whole scene where he's like screaming about syphilis or whatever, gonorrhea, whatever is. And they're like, yeah, he had to figure out a way to make gonorrhea work as a,
Starting point is 00:57:33 as an acting job or whatever the deal was. Right. They had like dark lighting. Oh, by the way, the acting debut of Daniel Day Kim in that scene. Oh, really? Yeah. That's a trivia question. Somebody could have said, hey, what lost actor got his acting debut in the scene where Kramer has gonorrhea? And I would have said Daniel Day Kim.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Also, real quick, here's the same episode where Lillane gets a shot. It's still one of the funniest moments. The scene is nine seconds long total. They cut to it. They do the scene and they leave. and it's where she gets a shot from this doctor and it cracked me up. I'm just to play it. Is this going to hurt?
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yes, very much. I don't know why that's so funny, but man, cannot get enough of that scene. Anyway, Dan, I got a text for you before we get going here, even though we've been going for a while now. Here's the text from Katie, and Katie says this. This is a message for Dan Dan the Tabletop, man. I'm listening to yesterday's TMS segment
Starting point is 00:58:31 where you're talking about arthritis. And you were talking about all the crazy treatments that have been used for rheumatoid arthritis or RA. I was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at age three, good Lord, when JRA was a very new diagnosis. This was 1983. I have been on almost every kind of treatment, including weekly gold shots in my ass. My parents and doctors used to call me the 24-carat kid, says Katie. Is that a thing I can, the real question here is what it boils down to is can I still get, gold shots from a pharmacist.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Is that a thing? Well, you wouldn't get them from a pharmacist. You would get them from your doctor, but nobody's really, well, I wouldn't say nobody, but very, very rarely are they using that anymore? But it is, so here's the thing about rheumato, I mean, well, arthritis, you know, arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis and other immunosuppressant or immunocompromised kind of disease states. So think of your body is just, your body is just amazing.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like I, this sounds weird, but stay with me. Stay with me, here. I thought you were complimenting me here, Brian, but thank you. We appreciate it. Your body is amazing. Your body is a wonderland. So I often, like, when you try to explain what the body can do, to be honest, the body is almost like the Borg, if you think about it in a certain way. So think about what you're trying to use medicines for.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You're trying to either trick the body into doing what it's supposed to. You're trying to push the body to do more of what it's not doing, or you're trying to replace what it's completely not doing. So in what your body does with your immune system is when you start throwing things out of like medicine, and this is what I tell people, especially allergy season is in full bloom right now. You know, I tell people to rotate their and histamines because your body gets used to it. So like when I say your body's like the bore, you know, when the board gets shot once, all of a sudden they just kind of change and they adjust. That's your body in a way. Like when you're using certain amount of meds and rheumatoiditis is a perfect example
Starting point is 01:00:29 of this. When you start throwing these anti-romatic drugs at your body, eventually your body's just like, nope, we're done. And that's why when you talk to people, and it's fascinating, you know, we already love talking to, like, old people, like 70s, 80-year-old people, because they've seen it all. When you start talking to a 65, 70-year-old patient with rheumato arthritis, they will tell you a laundry list. I mean, you could only imagine how long of all the different things they've tried. And generally, gold, silver, all these weird things like Willow Bark, all. sorts of things that they've used. Now, obviously, gold and silver, you got to watch out for, especially gold, which was used more than silver, but you've got to watch out for obviously
Starting point is 01:01:07 heavy metal poisoning. You know, it's a slippery slope of how much works. And then once it stops working, you just got to have absolutely sign because there's so many side effects that you can get from things like, you know, those type of injections. So they're not really used as much and more or the second that they stop working, you've got to get off them. I mean, nowadays, you've got a lot of things. I mean, people, you know, some of the things that they used before now, the demards, which are the anti-romatic drugs, you know, things like methotrexate, hydroxychloroquine, leflunamide, a lot of these things, self-sacallis, like, I'm screwing up the name.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It sounds like Dune names. These are all Dune families that I haven't been in the books yet. I love it. Yeah. And you use a lot of those, and they just kind of keep your body from, basically, for lack of a better term, to keep your body from attacking itself. Now you see a lot of these injections, which helped to turn off a lot of of those, your emberals, your Humara, your Remikade, Simzio, Orincia. These are all, again, these are all actually, um, the Pokemon names that I'm just thrown in here for you. These are all actually drug names. You usually see commercials for a lot of these. And the reason why you hear so many
Starting point is 01:02:12 of these side effects, they'll be like, oh, make sure you don't have tuberculosis or you don't have hepatitis, because they are so turning your immune system off so bad that you're at risk for so many other things. But when you have such bad things, like whether you have, psoriotic arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, psor arthritis, psoriasis, even a lot of asthmas or atopic dermatitis, all these things are just your body saying I hate you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And I'm just going to meet your life miserable. It's so weird you're just fighting yourself. These autoimmune things are just so, it's such an odd part of physiology to me, you know? Like it's just this idea that you're this dude, you're walking around, you're living your life, your body is supposed to be acclimated to
Starting point is 01:02:52 live in. And meanwhile, you're insides are going, you suck. I'm going to freaking... They're having a fight. Yeah, basically. Yeah, it sucks. I don't get, I feel bad for that. And you can get into, you can get into a big long, this is like these, uh, random drunken conversations where you have these, uh, these debates about why we see a lot more of this stuff now. Is it because of what we're using in foods and other things? Or is it just that we're now just, or is there more people out there or we're more attuned to we actually are more diagnostic with it, you know, better at diagnosing these things. You could just go on for days. as to why we're starting to see more of these things. Yeah, who knows? It just sucks that people have to go through it because you just feel for patients, especially children. Now, sometimes when you see like atopic dermatitis,
Starting point is 01:03:39 you know, children's body, you guys have had kids, so you know how the, in Scott, you've got, you know, young, young grandkids. So I'm sorry you see some of those juvenile acne or juvenile, a lot of those atopic dermatitis. And that's just the, you know, think of it. of, think of like, you just explode from the womb, and here's 8,000 bacteria
Starting point is 01:04:00 and other chemicals in the, just normal things that are never going to hurt you, but they're just new to that skin and your skin's like, what the hell's going on? So you just get those crashes. And eventually, most of that stuff goes away. Like, they, sometimes it takes a little bit longer with other kids, but some get so bad that they,
Starting point is 01:04:16 some of these drugs are, like, do Pixin. I mean, it's approved for six months and up. Now, don't get me wrong. If a kid is that bad, but, man, I don't want to put you know if i had a six-month-old i don't want to put this crap in there i mean granted it works but man you gotta just you better have a bad case yeah i agree it's like romona was here the other night she got a little teeny little uh infant zitty things going on on her cheeks and you just settle let that stuff go but i'm holding her i was feeding her the other night
Starting point is 01:04:42 she has this thing where she goes when she drinks from her bottle she goes she'll go like over and over that's how she makes noise and the whole time you got these weird little zits on her face and part of me wants to go get in there and just like I don't but I have a desire too right because you want to get rid of that stuff but okay so here's my bigger
Starting point is 01:05:09 here's my larger question my mom who's now 85 she's had a lifetime of I don't remember what kind of arthritis we just called it arthritis but she's got like curled up gnarled up fingers and in my time or my young time I thought that's that was the beginning and end of arthritis. If you had arthritis, your fingers were all left up.
Starting point is 01:05:28 That was the end of it. But you just rattled off like six kinds of arthritis and maybe more. And I think that that makes me think that we are, A, better at recognizing what they are. We have better subcatterization. We are better at diagnosis. And we are better at sort of, I don't know, shedding light on conditions and things. That feels right to me, you know? Because back then I would have gone, oh, that's that finger disease.
Starting point is 01:05:53 well today i would say no there's like 20 of these and they're all different and they all do different things yeah yeah so mostly that that's definitely sounds like rheumatoid arthritis especially if she's got the gnarled hands and stuff you know the other things that you hear about people having osteoarthritis uh in their knees um and that's what you know kind of what i thought um oh i might to ask you how your shoulder is you know because a lot of times you get arthritis in your shoulders and my shoulder sucks i hate my shoulder although it fluctuates today it's pretty good i've been doing these stretches, as told to me by my doctor and also confirmed by a physical therapist that they are the right ones to do. And they are helping. I think what I've got is a, I'm a side sleeper.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And I think I, I think the way I hold my arm underneath me is the problem. Like holding it right here hurts and this is the angle it's at when I sleep on it. So I think what I'm going to do is get one of them there, pillows that's got the, put your arm underneath and it doesn't, you're not actually putting weight on the arm you kind of is hanging there i'm gonna try that out see how that goes and if you get one of those long ones you're uh especially men like us men of a certain age or anybody of a certain age with with your hips you know a lot of times i don't know how you normally sleep i sleep on my side with my leg over so when your leg as you get older when your leg is pushed down like that it's not as good on your hip anymore because your hips aren't flexible as you
Starting point is 01:07:11 so if you get a long body pillow uh you know you put your arm there this is this is gonna sound really dumb, and I'll probably take crap for this forever. I sleep with a stuffed football. I don't know why. I'm at it forever. Just in your crotch? Where is this? Is it big?
Starting point is 01:07:26 I caress it. I just caress it in my arm like I'm holding a football all night long. Is it a large one or is the size of a regular football? It's not the size of regular football. Maybe it's slightly bigger because it's stuffed, but it's a small football. So as I'm holding it, it also helps me from overrolling onto my stomach. So it keeps me on my side, but it helps me prop me up a little. little bit too yeah you think your wife would if i reached out to her she'd take a she'd do a picture at
Starting point is 01:07:51 night i think they'd get down asleep cuddling his little pillow i need to i'd wake up with those hip issues uh just on one side because i'm a side sleeper and i tend not to move for the whole night or i feel like i don't move and so i do get you know pain in one side so i think i think the body pillow's next on my next on my list yeah and that's a thing too um don't you have a seatpap brain I do, yeah. Okay, so a lot of times when you start, when you get a little bit more used to having things like that in your body will normally kind of know not to move as much. Because normally they say you move. This has a lot to do with overnight woodies.
Starting point is 01:08:30 You get a, normally men will get a woody about every 90 minutes when they sleep around it. All right. We have taken a turn. Keep going. Keep going. That's what's keeping me from sleeping on my stomach, to be honest. Yeah. That's also how it pops myself up on the side as well.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Wait, you wake up in the middle of the night at a 40. A little kickstand basically. Yeah, you wake up at a 45 degree angle at 2 a.m. I'm wondering, what's going on here? That's right. Yeah. Who needs board games when you've got a kickstand that keeps you up at night on your side? Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Anyway, so, you know, the blood flow, and that's kind of part of your movement, your body naturally will make you move a little bit so you don't get, you know, things like, I mean, it takes a lot more than just overnight, but bed sores and things like that. So your body doesn't, you know, the blood doesn't pull. in certain areas. So you're moving all around. You're helping your blood to flow and not pull and not get any DVTs and things like that. And as you get kind of older or, you know, maybe your body just does, you're not moving as much. It's not kind of prompting you to move as much. And also, again, like you said, with things like CPAP or you ever get, you know, like when you get hurt or something like that, your body knows you don't want to move on your side because it's going to hurt. So you just stay in that one position. That's true. Sometimes I can give you cramps and just not
Starting point is 01:09:44 feeling great in the morning because you're not getting that moving and blood circulation. Yes, because you're favoring something sort of and then other stuff suffers when you favor. It's like a limp. Your left leg hurts so you limp a little, but now your right leg hurts because you've been limping and you want to get equilibrium, baby. You want to
Starting point is 01:10:00 have it all smoothed out. We really took a right turn at Albuquerque. Yeah, we did. We did. The point is if anyone's getting gold shots, tell us all about it, all right? Let us know, email us and fill us in. In the meantime, Dan, you've got a cool kick starter you'd like to mention today what's going on yeah this one this is actually pretty
Starting point is 01:10:18 cool because uh the theme is is an interesting one it's a cute little game it's a very fun game this is called river valley glass works uh this is got by the guys at motor city game works uh man matt ben and adam now this game is kind of like azul i'm not sure uh brian do you remember oh azul yes yes yes i was the very very pop key master kind of like zul i'm like zul sure totally yes yeah so azool is a amazing game And Scott, Azul, and actually, River Valley Glass works probably even a little bit easier than Azul because Azul has some weird kind of spaceful things to it. But this game is so, so simple. And Scott, you would absolutely love this game.
Starting point is 01:10:58 All you're really doing is kind of draft. You're either taking glass. And it's based on a really cool kind of Depression era glass or kind of riverglass is actually a thing that people kind of collect. And you can actually buy, people collect riverglass or sea glass and they sell it on Etsy and stuff. So that's what kind of the theme is, is you kind of got the river, the glass flowing down the river. And on your turn, you'll have some glass in your kind of possession. If you don't, then you've got to grab glass from the bottom of the river. But you're taking a piece of glass and you're putting it on the river and then you're taking all the glass from either one side or the left or the right of where you place the piece.
Starting point is 01:11:36 So you've got to watch what you're placing out there because you don't want to necessarily give the next person a better piece. Now, there's different rarities of glass colors. and as you kind of get them, you're putting them on your board. If you see the player board in the picture on the Kickstarter, on the bottom it goes left to right. Now, different colors will go from left to right as you pick them. Now, the kind of the way you get points is you want to get higher rows, the two highest rows are going to score you the most points.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And also, you're going to have kind of sets. So if you fill in a whole row from left to right, wherever you stop, that's where it's going to stop points. Anyway, it's pretty easy scoring, but you want to have the higher rows, as far to the right, because that's where the scoring is a little bit higher. But as you're just kind of playing the game and drafting pieces. So it's a very chill game where you're just kind of sitting there and drafting really cool-looking glass,
Starting point is 01:12:25 and you're kind of pulling a glass out of the bag when you're refilling the river and refilling the bottom of the river. And then as you're taking the pieces, as you take pieces from a piece of river, that piece will come up. Everything shifts down to the right, and you put that old piece down and you're putting more pieces on there. But it's a very, very cool game. It's on Board Game Arena for people that like Board Game Arena right now. You can actually play it before you buy it.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You can get in on it for just $39, but they do have a really cool. I actually got in on a little bit more of the deluxe package. Did you do the deluxe? Oh, yeah. The clear acrylic, like the river tiles look amazing. Yeah, they look good. That's awesome. I'm a little surprised how inexpensive this is for what they're including.
Starting point is 01:13:04 There's a lot of cool shit in this. Like just nice, nice pieces, nice. Like Brian said, that river effect stuff, the sliding glass stuff is really cool. A little two to me. or three-dimensional people, the little pans. This is really cool. Beavers. I like a good beaver.
Starting point is 01:13:20 They're going to be really cool little tactile pieces that you're pulling out of the bag. Then there's a mini expansion, which has to do with end game goals and stuff like that. I saw them working on that a while ago. But this really cool. I mean, I love little games like this where you can take this out for people who have never played a single game. And this is almost the everybody's mom that's like, ah, let's just play. when you're trying to explain rules. Let's just play.
Starting point is 01:13:45 This is a game you can actually kind of do that because you can just set it up there and say, hey, you see you've got three pieces in front of you, pick one of these pieces. It represents a certain part on the river, and then you just take one of the ones from the left or right and then put it in front of you. You can play the game in 20 minutes,
Starting point is 01:13:59 you'll learn how to play it, and then you just kind of set it up again to play again once you really know what you're doing. Nice. Yeah. Nice. I love it. Go check it out.
Starting point is 01:14:07 That is on Kickstarter. Just search for, scroll back up. River Valley Glassworks. so just River Valley you'll get you there got me there and you'll
Starting point is 01:14:16 you can support the the freaking thing Dan anything else before we send you on your merry way no I'm gonna save I'll save my game of the year from last year
Starting point is 01:14:24 to next episode we'll talk about it because it deserves a little bit longer I'm sorry Scott it's not it's absolutely not a Scott game although you would love it
Starting point is 01:14:32 if we were but Brian you would love the game I'll send you a link off air but we'll talk about it my simple mind will not grasp it But, Brian, your complex intellect will easily grasp the rules.
Starting point is 01:14:46 No, no, no, no. Your mind would love. Scott, it's not hard at all, but it has some really cool depth to it. However, it's going to take you 30 minutes to learn. And I think that's when you would be glassed over. Your eyes would be River Valley Glassworked over your eyes. You know what? You've keyed in on a thing that's actually true about me,
Starting point is 01:15:05 and that is that I'm kind of an arcade guy. So I was raised on arcades. My dad owned arcades. when I think of games, and that includes board games, I think of, well, just put the quarter in and let's see what it does. Yeah. That's how my head works with this stuff. I'm very rarely like that guy that goes, lay it all out, let's read, let's look, let's do.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Like, I am bad at that. I get that, though, because, no, I'm kind of the same thing of like, I'd like to get the basics from the instruction manual, and then let's play the first round. It won't count or something, and let's just do it just so we can see how it goes. Yeah, yeah. That's a good way of learning. I mean, so if you look at all the different ways of teaching games, that is definitely in there with, you know, give them the basics and go.
Starting point is 01:15:48 And it's funny how people will lay out rulebooks that way sometimes where they'll just give you, here's a quick start rulebook. And once you're ready to learn more detailed stuff, kind of like, I mean, Jaws of the Lion did that for Frost Haven, I mean, for Gloom Haven, where you learn the game over playing it for five scenarios and it's a piece of cake to learn. Yeah. It's pretty cool that there's definitely a, that there's definitely something to. that, Brian. I do like that. I like when a game puts in, it's almost like a tutorial, but it's still the game. Like, it still feels like you're playing the game, but you're playing, video games do this all the time. Like the first level is a tutorial, but you are playing. I like that. And when board games do that, uh, gloomhaven was really good at that. Um, I like
Starting point is 01:16:26 that. I'm a fan. Uh, well, Dan, this is great. This is fantastic. And we love hearing from you. It'll be a month, but it'll be a quick month. And we look forward to having you back. Uh, may your son continue to get good grades and not flunk, out of his cool hockey school in Canada. And we'll see you next time. I don't know why I said that. His cool hockey school. His cool hockey school, yes.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I think it's just a school that has a good hockey program. I could be wrong. All right. Well, there's that. Quick note before we leave today. This is the day we try to do core games and today's happening. So core play happening at noon. Me, John Boe, although John's internet has been really crappy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Oh, because he just did the move. Yeah, how's that all? It's all good, except for the internet has been just shit. So it should be the same. It's the same ISP. It's seven minutes away from where he used to live. There's no reason this shouldn't work. But he's been struggling.
Starting point is 01:17:21 So I hope we see him today. If not, Bo and I for sure. But we're going to play at noon. I think we're going to try this new game called, oh, oh, crap. Here, I want to give the name because it seems rad. Oh, here it is Ravens Watch. I played a bit last night.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It is rad. And it's on sale right now. Still in early access, but it's very cool. So we're going to try some co-op in that thing. It's on Steam and see what we think of that. That'll be today at noon at frogpants.tv, Twitch, YouTube, kick, all that stuff. So check it out. Other than that, Brian, you got anything else going on?
Starting point is 01:17:55 You want to imagine? Yeah, I think I'm going to be doing, so today is an afternoon. I stay home, do freelance, but I'm also going to do some more Millennium Falcon build today. So that's stuff I put on YouTube and it stays up there in perpetuity. So if you can come check it out live, that's great. Just follow me at YouTube.com slash coverville. But if you, you know, you want to check it out later. Really, it's more about listening to me lose tiny screws inside plastic pieces and bitch about it.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Oh, that's really what it is. You know what? Everyone's always looking for a niche on YouTube. You found it. That's right. That's right. Oh, I actually might also, during that same stream, Airbrush Galactus's face. I have a test print that I'm going to be practicing Galactus's skin tones and stuff on.
Starting point is 01:18:43 So if you want to see that, I'm moving the camera over to where I can do that. That's awesome. Very cool. All right, check it out. That is going to do it for today's program. Big thanks to everybody for listening. Go to frogpants.com slash TMS for links to everything, including the aforementioned Viva-TMS-Fegas link. So you all can get your tickets and get all lined up for that.
Starting point is 01:19:04 That is going to do it for today. Let's play a song on our way out the door. Yeah, I'm excited about this one because I love this song anyway. This goes out to Tom Robinson. Tom, sorry again, you know, catching up with emails. This would have been last week, but missing days and schedules and things like that. Tom says, hello, Scott and Brian. It's time for another spin around the planet.
Starting point is 01:19:26 The last time I requested, I informed you guys, I broke my fingers in my mom's passing. Remember we saw the photos of his broken fingers and then his mom passed away as well. Just not a great time. time. Since then, things haven't really improved, as my wife was in the hospital with interstitial lung disease, and I got laid off of my job after 27 years. Believe it or not, I'm in high spirits, enjoying life and looking forward to another TMS Vegas, so we'll see him there.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Dude, I need to buy you a drink when we see it. For Brian, what popular musical act do you dislike to the point of avoiding? And for Scott, it's time to play a random film sack clip and guess the movie. So I'll say, I avoid... I know everybody loves red hot chili peppers. I've said it before. Those guys, for me, are more styled in substance. And anything blood sugar, sex, magic, and before I like,
Starting point is 01:20:21 but anything since just feels so samey, same in me. So I tend to avoid the red hot chili peppers. Scott, pick a random film set clip. Here we go. That might have been too easy. So that's the Harry Potter dude, but he's not in this. I mean, he's not, this isn't a Harry Potter move. We've never done one.
Starting point is 01:20:44 That's that old guy. Caretaker and Harry Potter. What's the movie? Oh, it's hot fuzz. It's got to be hot fuzz. I think it's hot fuzz. Hot fuzz. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Yeah. You're talking about filch, right? Yeah, the filch guy. And he played the hard to understand old guy up the road that they kept interviewing. And I think that was hot fuzz. Yarp. And see, we watched that in 2018. That sounds right.
Starting point is 01:21:04 It was a while ago. Yeah. I need to watch that again. that movie is so good dude it is it's really really good i think it's my favorite of that three deal the three movie deal they did they basically call it the whatever trilogy cornetto cornetto not it the three flavors cornetto trilogy yeah i love that one that one's so good anyway uh all right well let's get to tom's song he says my pick i get to choose the song i'm picking this one right here because um this was something new that somebody told me about and when i found it i just fell in love with it and uh i I want to listen to it over and over again. The band is called Krista Bell, and this is from their 2022 album, Midnight Star. It's a cover of The Psychedelic Furs, Love My Way.
Starting point is 01:22:03 There's an army on the tense. floor it's a fashion with a gun my love in a room without a door a kiss is not enough in love my way it's a new road I follow Where my mind goes They put us on a railroad They dearly make us pay For laughing in their faces And making it always
Starting point is 01:22:52 There's emptiness Behind their eyes all their hearts They just want to steal a son And take us all apart But not you Love my way
Starting point is 01:23:15 It's in you I follow When my mind goes Love my way It's a move I follow Where my mind Close
Starting point is 01:23:44 No one will find us They wonder why You'll never go back Never go back Love my way It's you I follow When my mind goes so
Starting point is 01:24:17 Swallow all your tears, my love And put on your new face You can never win win or lose if you don't run the rest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. Yeah. I follow when my heart goes, when when my heart goes. They wonder when You'll never go back We'll never go back Never go back We'll never go back
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