The Morning Stream - TMS 2618: Jerky Jorts

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

Passive Aggressive Income. Garbage Can Jessie. Where's Our Tit? We don't have Buck-EEEEEEEEEEEs. Strong enough for a man but made for Peter Dinklage. Least offensive chocolate. Reecie Piecies for you Birfday with Dunaway. Kim Makes Her Cookies with Extra Gluten. Cookies in the Street. Two Mentions of Dune Per Episode. Jerk Your Nugs. Conan the Dairy Queen. Just Remember, It's All Your Fault. The Art of Tao with Tom. All in the Furiosa with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

TMS is brought to you daily by the support of our patrons at patreon.com slash TMS like Matuba, Jake Stephanie, and Quizzac Hatterack. Oh, wait, for that, they get... All right. They know the spice must flow at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream. Passive aggressive income. Garbage can, Jesse.

Where's our tit? We don't have buckies. Strong enough for a man, but made for Peter Dinklage. Least offensive chocolate. Recy Pieces for your birthday with Dunaway. Kim makes her cookies with extra gluten. Cookies in the street. Two mentions of Dune per episode.

Jerk your nugs. Conan, the Dairy Queen. Just remember, it's all your fault. The Art of Tao with Tom. All in the Furiosa with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Well, I'm not sure if there is a god or heaven. But one thing I can tell you is your daddy's going to hell. Sausage.

The Morning Stream. Don't eat that. It's Pluto. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS, the morning stream. It is Wednesday, March 20th, 2024. Scott Johnson here. And if I'm not incorrect, no, if I'm not correct, or if I am correct, that's Brian I bit over there. You had to write the first time. if you're not, and if I'm not incorrect, that's Brian Abbott over there. That's the right. You did the right thing. I don't know why that sounded wrong as it came out of my mouth. You know, sometimes things come out and you go.

It's the double negative kind of freaked you out, not incorrect. Yeah, it gave me pause is what it did. You could say, if I'm correct, that's Brian a bit over there. Like you could take out the double negative and turn it into a positive, you pessimist. Oh, I know, right. Look on the bright side of life. That's right. Everybody, yeah. It's good to see everyone. We're here for another morning stream. It is Wednesday. So we got all the fun Wednesday stuff lined up.

Watch for all of that. yes we do i wanted to start things off with uh well it's a story about people working in the street and cookies all right okay which may sound like a thing that makes no sense but i promise it will as long as there's a bigger uh pause or a comma or something uh between those things then i'm then i'm all i'm all in that you're all in if there's if it just goes straight from cookies the street then who cares um no this is this is a funny thing so yesterday i don't know what they're doing I don't know if it's H-O-A or if it's just, I don't know if the city maybe, but there was a big crew doing street work in our street,

just a little halfway down our road. Fixing potholes or something or something. It looked like they were digging deep, so it may have been pipes or who knows. And having done what we did last year with our pipes, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, they're doing kind of an overhaul of our plumbing out there, the main line or something.

But they didn't, you know, there was nothing like, hey, you may not have water for a while or anything like that. it was just them out there working and I saw it and of course my first thought when I see stuff like that is I go and Kim was home and I go hey um these guys up on the road doing street stuff wonder what that's about that's the end of my thing that's all I think about I'm just curious I'm in between stuff I'm grabbing breakfast or lunch or whatever it is lunch I guess because after the show sure I'm going to go now downstairs and keep working and she says oh and then I go do that I come back upstairs and she's got this big steaming plate of just

out of the oven chocolate chip pecan cookies well she just keep like dough refrigerated just ready for a moment like this like it's i don't know where that dough carter may know this but they i think they made dough prior to this and it was already in the fridge just waiting to be made into more cookies like basically just in case there are people out there working on the street i mean kind of yeah so she so she so she's walking by and she go oh i go what are you doing to like free cable or something. Oh, that's a great idea. Get the fiber in here is what we need.

The fiber. Exactly. Hey, while you're under there, if you see any fiber, like internet fiber, a T1 line or anything, just hook it up to our house, what you think? Yeah, straight to the door, please. Yeah. I would love that. But anyway, she's got the steven plate of cookies and a bunch of water bottles,

and I go, what are you doing? And she goes, oh, I'm just going to take some of those guys out there working. And I said, oh, all right. So in my head, I'm like, oh, it's your usual, you know, Kim's always doing. She's thinking of other people. great that's great i love that about her it's awesome but also in my head i'm going well i don't want these fellas to get the idea that you know they can come around here anytime get cookies or whatever you know so i'm going i'm kind of a um on both sides of this

these guys are just going to like come up with excuses to work on our street just so they could get free cookies yeah uh hello again ma'am we're working on the widget out here and sure wouldn't mind another plate of cookies by the way uh my friend here is gluten-free so just keep that in mind when you bring out the next plate, thanks. We'll be out here for another couple hours. Could you hurry it up, though, because we're going to be taking lunch and noon. Yeah, and those cookies would wreck you if you're gluten

sensitive. Oh, man. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I even had two, and I wasn't supposed to eat. She puts extra gluten there. I hear Kim is, uh, she goes all in on a glute. She's a puppet of big gluten and she just loads those things up. She did do the what's the chocolate that isn't,

is it dark chocolate? Yeah, oh, dark chocolate the, like, less sweet. The best chocolate for you. Yeah, the one that's, yeah, the one that's not crappy for you. Or, you know, like you say, the least, the least offensive of the chocolate chips. Exactly. The best of the bad chocolate. Yeah, that sounds right.

That's almost, I think it might be a good time when we talk about this for me to enjoy a lovely pocket coffee. Brought to you by Cholik Industries Incorporated. That's right. Pocket coffee, ask for it by name, but don't keep in your pocket because it'll be a runny pile of, That's right. Pacholik, ask for it by name. You want to be my importer exporter. It does sound like a name like that. And last night, we saw the one where George runs out with his pants down, screaming

Vandalay Industries. It's so good. Yeah, it's such a great. And you want to be my importer exporter. Oh, no, it was. You want to be my salesman. You want to be my something salesman. What was the?

I just saw it. Latex salesman. You want to be my latex. salesman yeah and you want to be my latex salesman anyway uh so she takes he's out to these guys i know you like these i can't eat him i can't do them my kim loves him by the way mike so don't they didn't go to waste i just can't it's that it's that hardcore uh it is the concentrate coffee yeah that is um what do you call it what's it called the um espresso it's like mainlining mainlining espresso right out of the

the barista's teat basically is what you're doing with that stuff. Yeah, it's espresso espresso is what that is. It's too much. It's cork espresso. It's too much. It puts me in the grave. I can't do it. But Kim loves it. And so thank you again, Mike. So anyway, she takes these cookies out to these guys. And the whole time I'm thinking, well, we're never going to see that plate again. I don't know why I

think these things. Right? This is dumb. Yeah. with a loss of another plate. I know. I don't know why I do this. Like, it's annoying to me. But it's like a lot of things. This morning I said to Kim, I said, hey, I've been thinking about my shoulder.

It's not been great still. And I need to lift. I need to do some, like, hand weights. Where are those 25 pound weights I bought a couple years ago? And she goes, oh, those are over at Taylor's house. So she's constantly giving crap away. And it's great. Again, she lives a very help everybody out life.

Exactly. That's her life. I support it. So I'm thinking about this plate. And then right around the time I'm thinking about the plate, bing bong, I checked the door. And a guy, I don't know his name, is standing there. And he says, thank you so much. This made our day. Here's the plate back. You guys are awesome. Thank you so much. So it was all just exactly as it should be. And all my fears were put to rest that we were never to see that plate again. And even if we didn't, would I notice that we didn't have an extra place. You would, you would notice like, honey, I think we're one plate short. I just did. I just

did inventory, took inventory, and I think were one plate short. Yeah. But this is just another example of how think of it as like a pie and how your wife, you know, your significant other should complete you. They always, you know, the old stereotype, ah, you complete me or whatever.

But no one told me that I would be a little sliver of the pie, you know, a nice portion of it, and that she would be the rest of the pie, all the other pieces of the pie. No, no, we are, we are elevated by the people that we married you and I in many cases many many people around us elevated by the people we're married

is you know you might think we're okay we're like yeah yeah well we like bright and scout they're they're awesome people yeah we're we are we are but the the tiny little weight on the scale of life yep that uh that our wives dominate that giant net full of fish is mostly our wives we are we are but one fish that's right uh that said I think we need to go to like you printing.com and make some plates up that say support the morning stream on Patreon and when she goes out and like you'll a QR code on there

and when she takes the plate of cookies out and they're like oh cookie oh look a QR code scan automatically adds $2 to our Patreon account yeah they all have phones so yeah why not you have phones like the cookies support TMS yeah exactly I love this idea this is a great new way for us to

I'm always thinking it's always always always thinking dude it's the hustle bro economy we're in there exactly yes got to keep it moving I put a sticker so in my car in my uh the lift mobile the cover mobile the cover mobile of liftitude yeah um in the back seat from from last year's uh TMS Vegas got to got to Vegas got in the car yeah um no this would have been when I did my solo trip out there before to to case out the Fremont Street and make sure there weren't any cops that we're going to have a problem with us recording our task out there. Right, right.

Got in the lift, and the driver had this thing attached to the headrest of the passenger seat that faced the back of the seat. And it's this little, this thing you get on Amazon for 30 bucks. It is a charger, a three-line, a three-cord, retractable cord charger, one of those where you go, and it comes out and then if you pull it just a little bit more it rolls back up kind of thing like a cool vacuum vacuum power cord

yeah like cool vacuum like modern vacuum cords but it's got like a lightning cable a USBC cable USB mini or micro whichever one that Android's use and it plugs into the the cigarette lighter and I get comments left and right on that thing

like oh man this is the greatest thing ever oh I'm charging my phone or oh my God I had 1% when I got off the plane. It was enough to call you, and that's all I have. So great, thanks. Sure. So I'm looking at this thing, and it's like, you know, it looks like a black cylinder with these lines coming out of it.

And this last week I decided, well, what am I doing? That's like perfect advertising. So I decided to put a, I made a little sticker that looks official, put a little QR code on there and said, hey, while you're charging your phone, think about charging your income with Lyft. and it's got a little QR code with my referral on there. So if they snap that and decide to start driving, because I get a ton of people in the car who say,

how do you like driving for Lyft? I've been thinking about doing that and, you know, need a little extra money and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, you totally should. And I can't interrupt the ride. I can't cancel the ride to show them my QR code so that they can be a referral. Oh, right.

Because that's a big blocker right there if you can't do that in real time. so this is a perfect way around it's exactly it's like oh man you know i'd love to refer you but if i go to that screen it'll close the ride dumb lift come on fix that yeah that's dumb so i just made a QR code for it and we'll see if it works i mean it is completely this is what's called passive income they scan it they start driving i get 300 bucks in my account if they if they last a month yeah passive income is where it's at man that's the way to do it do they do they um uh if you You know, I'm at Ken, you're not wrong.

I might get more if I do an affiliate link for the charger. Oh, good point. Even if they scan that and go to Amazon, it's like, what, seven days, if they buy anything else while they've got, before they close that window, they'll... Yeah, that's actually a good point. You might make more doing that. I might make more money that way. We'll try it out in a week. It's a removable sticker.

We'll try it. We'll see how it goes. And in a month, I'll swap out and do the charger. It's too bad QR codes. Don't send you to both. know that'd be cool yeah yeah uh was i going to say i was going to say did uh burp forgot can't remember oh are you gonna you should share the link to the cord so that people can get one oh yeah you know what i will do that and make it an affiliate link make it an affiliate

link well yeah of course i will yeah it automatically does that with the links that i do in amazon anyway let's see it is the nice um yeah we can put it in chat people rush out there there, grab themselves a retractable multi-cord. Yeah, because this is even cool if you're... They just want one of these in your car, you know? Like... Yeah, I could use one. I want it for myself.

I'm going to look it up. Oh, orders. Go to orders, Brian, for F's sake. Because we're always trying to get like a... I don't know, better cords in our car. Kind of hate just having a dangling, whatever. Plus, I will say this. I love my Volkswagen.

I have enjoyed the hell out of it. This is a great car with one design flaw. the USB cord that you plug into the front there's one in the rear for people in the back that's fine but the one in the front is recessed way under this little door you open where you can keep change and other stuff cigarette lighter area zone you know

but it's so far down there and it's made for people with it's made for Peter Dinklage Peter Dinklage can get his hand in there or a three-year-old child can do it exactly yeah so if you get you once you you know once you've got the thing plugged in, great. You can pull the cord out to unplug it, but it's getting the

USB plugged in there. Yeah, and you already have a 50-50 chance of having the 2.0 connector turn the right way. Yeah. Because it's USB. It's isn't USBC. So I'm going like, oh, it's the wrong way. Is there a three-year-old, you know, where's Phoebe? She can put it in.

Good Lord. I hate that. It drives me nuts. Get me a toddler, step. And it come out with like, I think I still even have a little scratch scar. But anyway, I come out with a little scar every time because it's like, and it's just so I can, you know, I can hear Fleetwood Mac or whatever I want. And I like it wired more than the other thing. So that's my thing.

Anyway, all right. Well, that link is out there now. You all can get your deal. Go get your, who makes this weird thing? It's O-P-R-O. Oh, I don't like that. Dumb name, isn't it? How come Anchor doesn't have one of these?

Oh, look at that. That's cool, dude. It is cool. Yeah. So, like, they're, you know, they're just, they pull that thing out, charge their phone. I'd argue this is, I'd argue this is made for this. Well, it is says the description is Lyft, Toro, Uber, taxi, all that stuff. I mean, it is so, it is so made for people who lift.

And here's the funny thing, frequently bought together. Oh, yeah, please rate me five stars and give me a tip signs that you can also hang from the, uh, from the passenger thing. It's like, no, I'm, I don't, I definitely won't be doing that. That's awesome. I love it. It's like a little towel dispenser in a bathroom kind of. It kind of is, yeah.

That's cool. All right. Those are the worst, by the way, those stupid towel, towel. Oh, I hate them. I hate them. The ones that are, though, those are touchless that you just wave your hand and towel comes out. Great, those are fine. It's the ones where the action of pulling on the first towel releases the second one because

nine times out of ten, I end up with two little people. of paper towel in each under each thumb yeah it's a garbage mechanism it doesn't work right it's a garbage mechanism yeah fix that all right also the ones that the electronic ones where you wave your hand and they fall down into one of the blowers

we're right into the trash right into the trash everybody else seems stupid to me also make sure that stuff's close to where the door is because I like to dry my hands and then use the towel to open the door if you're not doing that you're gross is what I'm saying.

Yeah. I don't want to judge. Well, I don't want to judge people. I don't always do it. We got a call from Jesse, garbage can, a garbage can,

it's jerky Jesse. Jeez. Well, he's a garbage man. I always forget to, I always forget that. Anyway, he wrote in,

it's a little update from him because he was, he was going to drive into the lake. You remember if we did a certain thing or whatever the deal was? I think if I didn't start giving the score. Oh, I think that was him. Yeah, that was it.

You're right. Here's his follow up. Hello, Simon, and. Brad. This is Jerky, Jesse. I just wanted to give you an update. I'm still driving, not in the river.

I do want to thank you guys for updating the scores frequently. I do would like to point out that what I originally was calling for was when you guys are doing the tad fully viewed. And like, when it goes ding and Brian goes off on a tangent without telling us what number that was on the list, of 10.

Oh, my God. Instead of saying, oh, that was number five. You're like, oh, those are great. Fantastic. I love those as a kid. And then Scott starts falling off on something, which is awesome. It's amazing. But I want to know, watch number on the list.

Thank you. You know what? He's a very demanding listener. Well, I'd like jerky, but you haven't made any since meat prices went up, Jesse. so yeah where's our homemade jerky what we want yeah where's we want tit for tat we've been giving you tat where's our tit where's our tit get us some tit all right Carter I promise I had context okay don't worry about us yelling tit at the top of our lungs over here yes exactly no you're right I'll practice today Jesse totally totally fine yeah we will we will all right I'm going to do this

last call later in the show. But for now, we're going to jump to the Ted Pooley feud. Yeah, we got things to get to. We got stuff to do. That's right. I'm pretty sure Dunaway's in there now. He's in. He's in the game, so we know he's...

Excellent. We know he's on tap. Oop and the boot is what he is in Canada. That's what they say up there. Oh, look who it is. That's our old pal Brian Dunaway one day after his birthday, his naming day. he's here he's back he's queer get used to it hey done away what's going on how are you oh hi scott and brian too late to talk about my birthday now should have done that before you hung up on me on monday

yeah i knew that one was going to sting a little bit best birthday present ever yep click yep but look you're always going to be my you'll be my friend forever that says birthday with an f and it's my favorite whatever whatever both both both i know i know we both have we both we both have we both have this issue and it's fun to celebrate it's good to have you back though and i hope you had a nice birthday you do anything fun oh dude absolutely i all i did was uh i went and visited everybody all my family all my family live close but not super close so it's like 15 minutes to get to everybody's house and it's all in this outside circle so it's an all-day trip to visit my uh my dad my kids my mom and get back home. And that's what I did. I got up yesterday morning and just

hit the road. Visited each person and said, hey, it's my birthday. Yeah. I said, birthday. Just like that. Yep. And they said, why do you keep putting the F in there, Brian? We raised you better than that. We touch you better. Yeah. What they mostly said is, oh, no, we forgot. No, I'm kidding. Oh, your birthday. Shit. Scramble. I'm going to Walmart for no reason. I'll see you in a half an hour. Walmart as if. Yeah. More like The 7-Eleven. That's right.

Or the pigly. Wiggly. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here, ma'am. We're going to play a game. Oh, I guess I should add a contestant. Let's see. Who is the third today? I believe someone named, where is it?

DJ Axes. We've done him before? It sounds familiar. I don't know if he's ever played. I see him in the temple. Let me ask you a question. Something about his name is familiar, but maybe it's just because we see him all the time. He is our, he or she.

I don't even know who. we're talking about is here and we're going to ring them it's ringing we have the rings of ringage we uh oh there they are hello is this dj axis or axes it is me hello hi have you've been on before it's where you have i have uh kind of recently okay that's why you i knew you were familiar and now your voice is familiar so now i feel justified oh hi dj hello it's good to have you back man happy birthday brian thank you yeah oh cool happy happy people had a birthday to you too

yeah hope you had a good time as well everybody with birthday March babies yep we drove three and a half hours to go to a Buckees and that was my whole birthday What's a Buckees is huge what is a Buckees I don't ever heard of it oh Scott you're going to go down a rabbit hole and need to get to the south

immediately really Buckees is a gas station chain imagine if Disneyland was a gas station So Buckees with the two E's on it? Our first Buckees just opened here in Colorado Saturday, I think, and you'd think that Jesus Christ came down himself and made an appearance by the fervor over this place. Why is this such a big whoop? Is it just because they got crazy cool stuff there, I guess?

It's huge. It's just a big location. It's just a big location. It's just really good marketing. Okay. Oh, my gosh. There's like a whole. it's like a dollar store

yeah or like a five it looks like a five below my gosh wow all right y'all have a cracker barrel out there we do have cracker bell barrel yeah yeah it has a little bit of a modern cracker barrel feel too really

I'm waiting for a ride to take me up near there and I'm definitely going to go definitely going to go check it out yeah I kind of want to know when you do you have you got to get the beaver nuggets I know that doesn't sound oh yeah they're like they're like um captain crunch cereal, aren't they? Like big

form Captain Crunch cereal? More like pops is what I Yeah. Okay. Yeah, corn pops, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there it is. And I didn't realize that's where you could get them. Oh, I love those. All right, cool. Mostly a Texas thing. I'm staring at my enamel pin of them right now. Oh, very nice. It looks like it started as a Texas thing. There's a ton in, let's see, a couple in Florida, all spread out where you guys are, South Carolina, of course. And then one in Denver. And that's it.

nobody else west of Denver, man. Get them out here. Yeah, my first time we went to a beach for my birthday in 2020, which was, you know, right before the lockdown. And we were, we came home early because we weren't sure we were going to be able to get back into Tennessee. It was a whole bunch of like, oh, they're going to start shutting down borders. And we're like, we're going to go home. And so we're driving home from the beach.

And we're like, oh, my God, it's a Buckees. And we just pulled over and stopped. And that was an absolute laugh. That sounds like, fantastic. That sound intense. Like, we're going to shut the border. I forgot what 2020 was like. Oh, yeah.

It was a shit show. That year sucked ass. All right. Well, let's get to the show that does not suck ass. It's called Tad Pooley Fude. Brian's going to explain the rules and the prizes and the whatnot. Brian, take it away. It's time to play the Tad Pooley Fude.

I've surveyed the Tad Poole on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian, you have to predict the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. DJ your job is more important than ever because you, you're going to be working with either Scout or Brian. If your team wins, you'll get a prize package that includes Destroy All Humans, too. Because I guess they didn't, in the first, destroy all humans. There are more humans left that they need to destroy.

The reprobed edition of that. And because our winner on Monday couldn't use it, Scorn, which got rave reviews from our two players here. Yeah, Scorn is great. Also, Destroy All Humans, too, is very good. They're both good games. Cool. Reprobed is... It's a good a Steam Deck game, right?

Yeah, oh yeah. In fact, I think Destroy All Humans too also works great on Steam Deck. So I think you're in good shape here. Excellent. Well, let's kick it off. Let's go. Let's do it.

What's our topic? All right, let's get to it. Put your hands on your buzzers and get ready to answer this. We asked 457 Tadpoolers. What is your favorite strategy video game? Scott.

StarCraft. Show me StarCraft. What? Number two. Number two answer on the board. One answer will beat it, Brian. I don't know. That's so good because I'm going to go with the civilization.

Show me civilization. Number one answer on the board, Brian, congratulations. That means you get control of the board and you get DJ axes to help you out. I have a quick question for the host. Uh-huh. Merged. merge. That was it.

That was exactly my question. That is all the civilizations because people sometimes put civilization, sometimes put Civilization 5 or Civ 5. There's no way of knowing what they meant when they just put the base game if they meant one of the sequels. Makes sense. That's what I figured, because I didn't want to ask you like, Is you Civ 1?

You need to be like, hurry up and answer. What are you doing, Googling? And I'll be like, oh, my God, just civilization. Right, right. So, yeah, you can look at the question as, what is your favorite strategy video game? or video game series, I guess, if you need to do that. There you go.

That was the clear. I was going to ask. Was, uh, was is it just video games or is it all kinds of games? Well, the question says video games. Oh, video games.

Chat room could be weird. The tad pool is the tadpull. The tad pool is the tadpull. Stratigo. All right. DJ, do you prefer to be called DJ access or is that just your handle? Is that what you is that?

Uh, tray is, uh, Trey is the Trey. There we go. All right, Trey, perfect, perfect. Hey, Trey, I have one in my head. Do you have something in your mind?

I'm staring at all of my warhammer minis next to me. And so that brings to my Total War or Warcraft, which is what I thought might have been the first one. So I think we've got a few in the bucket we can go to, but what were you thinking? Well, we can, I like yours, Warcraft, you said, are Total War? I would go to Total War. It's a work. Let's do it.

That one feels more strategy. It's much more strategy. It's much more pure. Yeah. Okay. All right. Show me total war. Number nine answer on the board. I knew that was going to be lower, but it's really good points. You bastards. That is almost the best points you can get.

Yeah, Brian, now leading with 10 points to Scouts, two points. Oh, thank you. And that was number, what did nine? This score update brought to you by Beef Jerky. Wish I could have some. Yeah, take that, Jesse. You're going to move your beef jerky business to Buckees. Yeah. There you're going to.

Oh, you're kidding. Oh, oh. They have a beef jerky counter. Of course they do. Yeah. I'm sure it's, yeah, it can't be freshly made, right? It's got to be freshly made. Well, it's, they have their.

Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, they have the recently cured counter, and then they also have packaged jerky, so. Nice. All right. Oh, jerky and nuggets. Those all sound good. It sounds like my.

Sounds like my junior high school life. That's right. The bang ass with jerky nugs. Ooh, jerky nugs. Jerky nugs. When they find a way to combine the two, then we're talking. All right, seven answers are still on the board, Brian. What are you got?

Let's try what you thinking. You want to go with another one? You want to go with the one? This is my favorite game. Let's go with your favorite. Okay. Well, I, the Age of Empire series. That's just my favorite strategy game.

Lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo. All right, show me, age of empires. Very good. Number three, answer on the board. It's bringing up to 13. Sorry, there you go ahead. Some weeks, I just like, I'm totally, I have touched with a tadpull, and I'll say something. I'm like, this is going to be a total bomb.

So that's good. We're in, we're lined up. That's good. All right. You guys are aligned with your brains. Your brains are connected. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Got something else, Trey? What's you thinking? What is it? Was it Red Alert? No. Command of Conquer. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah. Command of Conquer, red alert. Yep, yep. Yep. I think Commander Conquer is going to be up there. Yeah, yeah. All right. Show me Command and Conquer.

Damn. Number four answer on the board. Right down the line. One, two, three, four. You guys are going to... 17 points now for Brian and Trey. Yep, they're going to run the board. I'm afraid.

I feel it. Well, that'd be good. Good. It would be good either way. Well, it's good for Trey. Yeah. It's not the Dr. Scott who really wants to play the game. It's not good for my massive ego that wants to win things. Sure. Oh, I know one that I would like to put up there, but I don't know if it's always up there.

I like the X-Com series. That's good. That was on my head. Yeah. Yeah. Jerks. All right. Show me.

X-com. number six you'll be really slow about flipping the thing you'll say and then you made me wait well part of it is the thing's slow sometimes right it's not always you sometimes the thing is slow but sometimes I'm slow yes

you never know which one it's gonna be well sometimes I want to make a joke but I'm like oh will that give anything else away or will it leave them down a wrong path or something like that so I don't do it so yeah fair fair point oh yeah you never you never manipulate the uh

players Manipulate. You never manipulate. Manipulate. Nipolate me. Can you manipulate me? What else you got? What else did you pick up at Buckees? Oh, I got a nice, what is that? The Roosevelt's type shirt, you know?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I want to say that Cleo bought me my, my what's his face Bob Ross T-shirt at a Bucky's because they have something weird wow like a Hawaiian style shirt that she got there that's cool

you know they have that kind of stuff she probably bought my lemon heads there for all I know I don't know she might have yes I didn't get that but I did get a free dairy queen ice cream cone yesterday and I was really confused was that for your birthday

my birthday and I was very excited and I was just stopping in to get a small vanilla cone as I occasionally do, especially on my birthday, and there was a line, there was never a line. So I pull up, and I'm like, I'm like small vanilla cone, and they go, they can pull around. I was like, okay, cool. And so I pulled around, and I hand the lady in my card, and she says, it's free. And I'm like, ah, you know, it was my birthday? Yeah, that's what you thought.

But no, it's the whole world birthday was yesterday. Whole world's birthday. I actually got one, got one as well. And at 2.30 in the afternoon, when I was out getting something from Ace Hardware, no line whatsoever. I just drove around, got my cone, and continued to try and eat while I drove, which was a real smart thing to do with an ice cream cone. Very good. All right.

What else we have? Do you think we should go back to Warcraft? You think that's... Guarantee it's on there. I think so. I mean, we kind of went through a lot of the pure strategy games that I like, but I'm trying to... I'll bet you money, Warcraft's on there. There's just, like, no way it's not.

Yeah. I would eat my shorts if it's not on there. Oh, even better. so you're going to, ooh, this is really good, really good high stakes. We get that, we got that in right. We all heard that, right? Yeah, but I have meat, don't forget I have meat shorts and they're season just right. Oh, you're jerky shorts.

Oh, darn. Yeah. The jerky shorts. Jerky shorts, love it. Oh, don't tell John about that. He'll make the next season of WW2K4. All right. You go with Warcraft?

Warcraft. All right. Show me Warcraft. Yeah. Number five. answer on the board, 28 now to 2, I think, let's see, 7, 8, 15, 25, mathematical elimination. 27 mathematically eliminated by one point, yep. Damn, damn, all right, hardly new.

Angry birds, I'm going with angry birds. Wingspan. I'll throw up my current favorite that has like 17 active players on Steam, which is realms of ruin, which. Oh, realms of ruin, yeah. Oh, yeah. Warhammer game. Yeah, that's a good game.

Scott, it's in the fantasy universe. Yeah, yeah. All that age of Sigma stuff's fine. I just, you know, I'm a 40K guy. I'm wearing my, I'm wearing my Sigma jersey right now. So, so into it. Yeah. It's like 40K, like two loosey-goosey.

We'd have to be narrow it down. Can't like like Warhammer. We can't do, right? A little too loosey-guise. I don't know. It's up to you what you want to say. I would say all of the 40K games are, the strategy ones are not super great. right there's a couple of good ones but they're also kind of obscure so i you're better off

saying 40k and being general i think if i was dune because they had dune game yeah that's right scott can't say it but i can say dune yeah i can i'm not allowed he's uh he's only allowed two mentions of dune uh per episode now of tms oh there's one there's one that's one i only got one left We got one left, so use it wisely. All right. Fair. All right. Let's go with, what would you say the game was that you liked?

Doon 2. You're playing trade. No, we're not going to say that. No, we're not doing that. Okay, we're going, okay, okay. I said Dune Imperium. I don't know if that game's out, actually, but. It is.

It's out now. Reviewing really well. It's based on the board game, which I never played. It seems interesting. I kind of want to check it out. Just Dune in general. There's a couple of Dune strategy games. So, yeah.

Yeah. All right. All right. All right. uh show me i guess that was more of like the survivor intro there's the

we're really looking for now now scott gets a turn yeah now scott finally turns out we're not the least on all guy you after you have to use everything up dune by the way number 15 in the list oh pretty good um all right I'm gonna say

um we're kind of running out so I'm just I'm in I really like the company of heroes games um so I'm gonna say company of heroes See if that's on there. Show me. Fast Company of Heroes. Damn it.

That deserves to be on there. It's really good. Let's see. Other people felt that way. Yes. Company of Heroes. I mean, it's World War II. It's kind of depressing.

It's super serious. No, no company of heroes. Oh, man. You guys are wrong. It felt like it. It felt like it. And I just remembered the one I should have said, and I'm pissed. But go ahead.

What was it? No, I'm not telling you. I may still get a chance to say my words. So I'm going to hold them. I'm noticing an interesting little colon there in the total war. And it makes me think, you know, there's 19 different total war franchises. So we've got a few things we can go through. I don't know.

Maybe Total War Rome. What do you think, Brian? That sounds good. I like it. I'll save you. I'll let you. I'll save the trouble. I guess I should have asked for clarification.

Yeah. Get out of total war. Listen, Brian is so unfamiliar with Total War that he said, oh, all Total War must be Warhammer. So I just because so many people. Makes sense. So many people said Total War Warhammer that I've lumped all the Total Wars into there. Yeah, that's fair. Now, one that I went revisiting that I really like, but I don't know if it's popular enough.

I love North Guard. Do you think... Oh, North Guard's awesome. That's a great game. I love that game. I've been revisiting it lately, but... That's funny because they made that same company are the ones that just put out Dune Spice Wars last year,

which I don't know if a lot of people know about it, but it's... That's too, Scott. Oh, that is two. I can't do it again, kind of... I feel a third! Oh, no, three. Shit. What do we do now?

What do you think of, Trey? What do you think? Should we north guard it? Maybe. Or Diner Dash? What do you feel about Diner? Oh, Diner Dash. I didn't think about that. That's an interesting. I'm out of ideas, friends.

Okay, and then, of course, in that case, we'll roll back with North Guard. And we'll try Diner Dash as our final. How about that? Yeah, go for it. Give us some North Guard. All right, North Guard. Show me, North Guard. No. I knew it. Okay, I would be...

I would be shocked if it's not on there. I hope it is because then I know my truly our people listen to the show. The game is home work. Home World, the Homeworld series. Also by Relic Entertainment, who made the other one I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. All right, let's take a look.

Show me Homeworld. Oh, are you kidding me, dude. Homeworld, um, looks like it's bottom of 50. One person said it, so it was tied for 36. One person. There are 36 games. Oh, wow.

There's a lot of fracturing and you're at the bottom then. Yes, exactly. There are 118 games. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. I cannot believe nobody put that. That thing is the most influential,

awesome thing in the history of ever. It's so good. And they're making a new one. Homeworld 3 is coming. You losers. All right, fair enough. All right. You said, angry birds.

What did you say? Not anger birds. Dinerdash or Plains versus Zombies, you know. Clash of Clans, the classic. Oh, yeah. Clash of Clans. See, there's so many people who played that. That might be there.

Yeah. How about some clash? It wasn't good, though. Well, no. All right, show me. Clash of Clans. That is your third strike. 28 points to Scott's insurmountable two.

Scott, you got one last strike to see if you can maybe get some more stuff on the board here. All right. I'm going to go with some. thing we talked about recently on play retro I'm going to say I'm going to say Advance Wars series Oh I love that game I totally didn't think about that

As soon as that thing goes on sale I'm picking it up the reloaded Or remastered or whatever it is All right show me advance wars Oh To advance for these people Tide for 36 place Only one person said advance wars

But no matter No matter That still means that Trey wins Yeah You can get those great games. Yes. That's right. Let's take a look and see what else is in the list here.

Number seven, Final Fantasy Taptics. Yeah, that's good. That's funny. I just put up a meme last night. It was a little box of tic tacks that had a label. It said Final Fantasy Tic Tacs on it. That's where I saw that from. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

It was funny. Anyway. All right. Number eight. Risk. Risk. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't think of that.

I have that on the Genesis. Somebody said the GBA edition was their favorite version of that. That was a good version of it. It turns out the GBA version of most things were the best versions of things. Yeah, it's weird. Including, by the way, I think, Brian, there's what you should do. You should take out your hamburger nick and get part one and part two of advance wars on there. I stand by this because I have the modern one.

I think the old ones are better. I think they look better. I'm pretty sure if I charged my anverdick, it would open up. an advance wars right now. Yeah. Such a good game. The last time I used it. So good.

So good. All right. Show us number 10. Speaking of advance wars, there's the people edition. Fire emblem. Oh, Fire emblem.

We just talked about that too after we did the advance wars. Oh, man. I think somebody in the chat's been yelling that and we just never put that. Somebody has been, yeah. Well, they feel justified now. That was the high point getter.

But you guys, either way you won. Either way you won. Let's talk about some of the other ones that were in the top few here. Chess, people said. Tetris. Okay.

Settlers of Catan. Stratigo, definitely going into a board game realm, but there are video game adaptations of these. FtL, Faster Than Light, Portal, SimCity, Age of Mythology, Alpha Centauri. Cities skylines. Dissagia, or to say, is that how it's called us? Descaya. Descaya.

Dysgaya. Disgaya. Look at this guy over here. Look at this guy. uh fallout four halo wars some of these clearly oh halo wards is halo words is kind of a yeah but it's a it's a top fallout four i guess fallout four is a is a rpg strategy right sort of i don't i don't say strategy no it's got some base building stuff max max strength and punch like so it's you know yeah it's a p that thing's a pure r pg with some base building

that one's wrong i shouldn't send that uh into the breach master of a Ryan, Monopoly, mist, plants versus zombies, populace, red alert. Why is mist on there? Mist and portal are both so wrong. That is so wrong. Mist is definitely wrong. You got to take some strategy. What a strategy but puzzles, Scott?

Right, exactly, yes. You've got to strategically figure out how to turn that knob so that the ship comes up out of the water and lets you go to the other age. That's right. Zelda on people. Afterlife Among Us, Balders Gate 3, battleship. Bioshock, Borderlands Call a few people just started naming video games.

I didn't say it's video games, yeah. Candy Crush, uh, coffee golf. Uh, Darth Wizard. I mean, it's not a strategy. It's like, I don't know, you guys are killing me. They are killing me. And then so many variations of, I don't play video games.

Oh, Jesus. I don't like strategy games, uh, pass a lot of those. Was that all Stephanie? I don't play video games. It was all Stephanie. It was all a genie. I know these people. I hate apps.

I hate apps. I hate apps of the worst. I hate podcasts and I hate everything you guys do. Finally, what remains of Edith Finch? Oh, not a strategy game at all. More of a walking simulator. Nice job, guys. Well done.

Congratulations. You win again, Trey. It's awesome to see a double winner like yourself. How do you feel about your big win? I don't feel great. What was it? Scorn? Isn't that the like Catholic?

like a very Catholic-inspired. No, you're thinking of, um, blasph- this is the, it's the HR, atheists? Yeah.

You're, it's the HR-Geeger one. You're, you're thinking of blasphemous part one and two. Blasmus is great. Blasmusism, it's an amazing series, but this thing is more like,

uh, first person, oh, kind of misty, to be honest. But first person kind of Geiger-y, gross. It's,

it's real creepy and weird. Very bloody. I remember you're talking about it on core at some point. Yeah. That was coming up. Yeah. It's red. You're going to enjoy it, I promise.

You're going to have a whole tray full of life. That's a terrible joke. All right. We'll see you later. Oh, and Brian, I'll send you those codes as you're well aware. Brian had done away, you know, post-birthday, you're just a, you're just a hoot having on here. Yeah, you sound older, though. Yeah, you sound like you're getting old.

I am getting old. It's pretty rough. Just a little slow on the reruns. That doesn't make sense. But I do know this. Friday, we're going to do a play retro episode. you and I, we're going to get together for Future Shock. I'm very excited about that.

System Shock. Or system shock, sorry. I keep doing that. I keep doing that. You think I'd mix it up with BioShok because that's where it all ended up. That's where it goes. Yeah, that's where it ends up. System shock.

We're starting in step one. System shock. So that's next week, and we're excited about that because, or not next week, this Friday. Because it deserves its time. Also, kiss our butts. Oh, you didn't say no you. I gave him time even. He's slow.

It's the age. I think that's it. Yeah. You're a year older. What are you going to do? Can't keep up with our fast-paced humor. I mean, it's hard, too, Brian. It's hard.

Hey, did anyone say, remind me if anyone said, what's the name of that game? Shoot. Let me find it here. Is it called? Oh, Crusader Kings. Was that on there? Crusader Kings.

I think I remember seeing that on there. Crusader Kings. Yes, Crusader Kings. I had three with that one because apparently that was the one that somebody said, yeah. Yeah, people love. I mean, I love it too.

It's kind of a long, hard game. You do, the game is less, it's about moving your armies around, but it's also about screwing over your kings. And the queen had a baby. Put a snake in its bed and try to kill it. Oh, God, really? Yeah, it's weird.

It's got some crazy stuff in it. It's really interesting. I do like something you recommended, which was against the storm. that was on sale on Steam a couple weeks ago, so I picked it up and I absolutely enjoy it. Yeah, very much. That one's a great combo of like strategy and city building and rogue like

and a bunch of stuff. That game is rad. Very cool. Yeah, yeah. You guys should all get it out there. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. Tom Merritt will join us. And when he does, boy, howdy, you better be ready.

Because we got technology to discuss. That's happening coming up here shortly after that recommendals. So please stick around. Brian, play a song while we have a moment. Yes, I've got indie that I've been holding onto for, oh my gosh, about a month now. Sorry, Amy, Chuck and Amy, Red Fraggle in our chat,

said, hey, our good friend Jim Infantino, related to Marvel artist, Carmen Infantino, one of my favorite Star Wars artist, has released a new album called Utopia Revisited, and it's really good. I asked him to send me a couple of choices for songs he thought might land well with the TMS community,

and he gave us permission to play them on the show. I figured this stuff is a good fit for indie in the middle signed Amy. Indeed it is. I listened to these and immediately put them in the list and then forgot I had them in the list to move up to the top of the list. So finally get around to it. This is from the brand new album from Jim Infantino, Utopia Revisited. This is the song, Psychic Zombies. Psychic zombies in our midst, telepathic, anarchist.

They got that goo in their home. Psychic zombies, post-human dread. Ain't got no mama, ain't got no Paul, ain't got no money, They've got no love They're telepathic anarchist Psychic zombies

In our midst She might be dosing, she might be dozing, she might be blind, commanding robots, She got that girl in her head Psychic zombies Most human tread I'm only human flesh and bone And we're our children We're from home

And then humanity We'll be dead I have that grew up Nah, yeah. We're going to be able to be. You know what I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be I'm going to be

I'm going to go to the I'm going to and I'm going to stop and a good and so I'm going to

I don't know. I'm sorry. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. You know what I'm going to be.

I earned my degree online at Arizona State University. I chose to get my degree at ASU because I knew that I'd get a quality education. They were recognized for excellence and that I would be prepared for the workforce upon graduating. To be associated with ASU, both as a student. student and alum, it makes me extremely proud. And having experienced the program, I know now that I'm set up for success. Learn more at asuonline.asu.org.org.com.com. Thou shalt not kill. Just because a baptism turns into a little drowning, everybody's going to blame somebody. For my next trick, I need a beautiful woman's.

Somebody's been watching a lot of King of the Hill, all right? Apparently so, yes. Hey, Brian, who was that again? That was Jim Infantino from his brand new album, Utopia Revisited. Check it out. I love both songs that Amy sent. Utopia Revisit is the album. The song is called Psychic Zombies with an X.

Psychic zombies. Psychic zombies. Yes, exactly. That makes perfect sense to me. All right, you guys. Sure. Have some fun. of this right here that I'm about to play.

We want Tom. We do indeed. It's Tom Merritt, everybody. He comes on the show on Wednesdays, talks about the daily tech news show. Tech News of the day as they prepare for a fantastic episode today, which sadly I'm not on, but Patrick Beja is on today. Oh, that's going to be really, really good. Yeah.

Tom's reaction is perfect. I should show you spoke French. Well, oh, of course. We got a lot of surprises here, Tom, that you don't know about. I hope Patrick doesn't cancel. You would never cancel based on that because I've said both of those things to him. And while he hasn't canceled me, he has rolled his eyes at me. Oh, yeah.

You will get a firm eye roll. That's right. I'm looking at his, a well-deserved eye roll. I'm looking at his flag or his scarf he gave me that's basically the French flag hanging him around a skeleton's neck. And I promise it doesn't mean anything that I did that. Oh, geez. It's just, I just thought where am I going to put it? Huh?

Uh-huh. Yeah. Now that you say it like that, I think it does mean something. Exactly. Oh, boy. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here, Tom. As sad as I am not to be there, it was on Monday. It was super fun.

But what's going on today that's burning a hole in your little tech finder? Yeah, if you all slept on Monday's show, you miss Scott Johnson. We dug into some GDC news there. That's another reason Patrick Beja is coming up today. He's going to talk about Unity's big report on gaming trends that they gave a GDC and specifically multi-platform. So kind of carrying on the conversation we had Monday, Scott, about like, the new strategies and the fact that Microsoft in particular is branching out and pursuing an actual multi-platform strategy and all that. So I'm looking forward to that. Also, yesterday's

show is probably what TMS viewers who haven't seen yesterday's show would be most interested in. NVIDIA had its developers conference for the first time in five years. And it was like a rock concert. Like it was the vibes that everyone reported are like, it was like being at a Taylor Swift show, which made me think that maybe they had never been to a Taylor Swift show. But I get the sentiment, which was like, Nvidia's on the rise, man. Everybody's positive about them. They're selling chips like crazy. And the takeaway I had from their big announcements, which, you know, the flagship was new AI chips. The Blackwell chips are coming, which is going to power data centers, which will power AI, which will make AI more powerful and all of that. And we dig into that on DT&S. But the overall takeaway is,

is Nvidia is creating a bunch of platforms for you to develop your AI. So not just providing you the hardware, but they announced a thing called NIM for you to develop your AI on without having to pay the big folks. So not having to pay Open AI or Anthropic or Microsoft or any of those, you could develop your own model and run it easily. So NIM is a containerized solution. I'll try not to get too wonky about it. But essentially what that means is a lot of the work you would do in rolling out a new model is done for you.

So you don't need to have on staff the expertise to build something from the ground up. You can sort of take your model and execute it and run it either on your own hardware. It'll work on older Nvidia hardware so you don't have to pay to upgrade a new hardware or in the cloud. And Microsoft and Amazon and the big cloud maker's good. Google are going to offer this as a cloud service as well. So again, the Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, very forward looking, also like creating a robotics platform, even though robotics is still kind of a niche situation, but, you know, expecting that to grow. And dip in a toe into quantum computing, too, which is, you know, still probably a decade off from being something massive. Yeah, these guys are, it's the most pivety pivot.

that I feel like I've seen in tech in a long time. And it's not like an immediate thing. They've been doing this for a while. But we're now at a crescendo point of like, oh, yeah, Nvidia is not just making your games look pretty. There's a lot of stuff going on here. They talked a bunch in his keynote about healthcare and AI. And some of that stuff was really fascinating that they got into.

I would tell people to go seek that out if you haven't heard it. But yeah, as a result, well, I think it's, I don't know if this is still true today, but didn't their stock just like blow past Amazon and Google? No, they're their stock. I don't know if it's, I don't know who it's blown past because I don't pay that much attention to the stock market. But yes, the investors have started to love invidia. In fact, somebody asked a real good question in my YouTube comments yesterday.

It was like, well, wait a minute, how big are they compared to Microsoft and Apple and such in revenue? And so I went looked up the revenue numbers. Amazon has the biggest revenue number of all of them, but their profit. margins are slim, but it's like 160 billion in their latest quarter. Apple and Google or Alphabet have around 80, 90 billion, Microsoft 60 billion. Invidia is 22 billion, which I'd take it. Sure. But that is definitely, it's a company that is growing. It's not a company at their size yet. But that's why investors love them, because they have huge growth potential. And rolling out services is a way for them to grow and it's a very, very, you know, reasonable way for them to grow.

So if you're an investor, you're looking at Alphabet, you're looking at Apple and you're like, man, they may have maxed out on how much they can grow, whereas Nvidia has a lot of upside. Yeah, there's a lot of growth potential for sure. And also, one of the, well, one of the concerns gamers have is that this means that they'll ignore them or that they'll forget about them or they'll forget where they came from. You know, there's always these weird little gamer concerns. Yeah. I don't think that will happen. The consumer will become a sideline and no one will. Exactly. And it may, that may be true by the numbers eventually or even now. But I don't think

they're anywhere close to just saying, see ya, by, we're out of that market. Like, that is not what they're going to do. So I think you've got a long time before that would ever even come close to happening. And they've also still got AMD nipping at their heels all the time. That's what I was just about to say is like, there's enough competition that if they were, you'd be fine as a consumer because other folks would would jump in and fill the gap pretty competently, which is why Nvidia's not going to let that die, because they, they still have, you know, a very good business with selling consumers' GPUs, and they don't, they don't want to let that go.

Yeah, I agree. Well, it's fun to watch. This has been, this is the only bummer about Monday is that they're, you know, for day one, there hasn't been any of the big keynotes or any of the big bombs dropped if there were going to be any at all. And, uh, later on the week. Yeah. So now Patrick gets to put his little French fingers into it and, you get the, he gets the, he gets

the meatiest part of the pie instead of the little crumbs that come off the edge of the crust. How did you let this happen? I know, right? But look at us over here at the bar before dinner, having a plenty good conversation about all this breaking latest stuff. And now Patrick gets some of the leftovers. You're late for dinner, Patrick. There you go.

How do we go from pie to the bar? I don't know. I don't know how that works. That's weird. I don't know, but I'm in on both of those. Tom's a pie guy. He likes pie. Well, all right, then.

We also miss Pie Day. We should have celebrated that when you were on last week. but what are you going to do? Oh yeah, March 14th. Yeah. Yeah. It's now in the, it's now in the rear view mirror. I prefer Tao Day, which is double pie day, June 28th, because that's my birthday. Oh. Pow. That's right. We got a big birthday coming up for Tom. And for a very brief moment, we will be the same age for a little while. Yeah. And then I will be a six days that.

Oh, funny. Yeah, there's something like that. And then I will be older. And then Brian will be older. And then we'll all spend a year going, damn it, Tom's just a kid. What's going on here? Wait until you get to be. be our age time. I call you young and, you know, give you all respect you deserve. Thank you. I appreciate that. Anyway, that's the daily technology.

That'll be today, the usual time, and it'll be awesome because Patrick will be there. We love him. I tease him, but we love him. So I'm glad he's back on today. Yeah, no, he is, honestly, Patrick Beja and Molly Wood are the two most

requested guests on DTNS. And we've been having Molly on regularly, so very excited to get Patrick out of his long, dark, finish night and bring him back on to DTNS. Never ends over there. Anything else going on in the Tom Merritt world we should be aware of?

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We'll see you later today, or I won't, but everyone else will, or I will, but it won't be where I usually am. Bye now. Oh, yes, correct. That all made sense, right? That was not confusing. 100% clear and easy to understand. Good, good, good.

That means no clarification. We'll come later. No clarification needed on that. Indeed. Just done that. I had a little bit of my water go the wrong way when you did that. Then my job is done. Your work here is complete.

Not really because we've got to do recommendals. So this is all happening now. We're going to add both Nicole and Randy to the program. Whoops. There's Randy right there. All right. We've added them. Now it's just up to them to pick up their damn phones.

Hens are already. That's right. Boy, they're both Johnny's on the spot here. Well, what are you recommend? It's amazing. It's like you almost got into their heads and said, get in here. You use the voice, Brian. All right.

Third reference, I won't do any more. Sure. Hey, look who's on the phone with us. It's our very own Nicole Spagnolo. Hein McColl, how are you? And she's muted. Oh, Mark. Mark.

Something wrong. Did you change it? All right. We'll say hi to Randy while we're waiting. Hi, Randy. How are you? Good morning, morning stream. How are you?

I'm great, man. It sounds like WNBC. Do you remember that? I do remember that. That's a Paul Giamati, right, from private party? I think so. Yeah, pig vomit. Yeah.

Whatever, whatever happened to Betty Thomas? I don't know. It was amazing for like years and years and just like vanished. What happened to Betty Thomas? We have a listener. I'll play a request that they submitted a while back, but they frequently see Marianne from Brooklyn, And speaking of Howard Stern and WNBC, private parts and all that stuff.

Sure. Oh, man. I was, you know, I was on the college radio station when I was in college. Like, we had a professor who taught you to talk like that. Like, you were not going to keep listeners if you didn't talk like that. Yeah, they were sure of it back then. That was a thing. It's no longer a thing.

Those people were wrong, it turns out. Hey. Oh, we've totally lost Nicole. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, let's see if we're. pull her back here she was here then came back then went away again i'll bet you this really is a mark thing mark messed something up i'll bet you i'm sure mark totally yeah that's what he does not the wire whisper no he's the you oh there she is that that exasperated sigh could only mean one thing that's

right Nicole hi Nicole how are you yeah i'm trying to get i don't know what's going on with my headphones i wonder if my headphones are broken well they might be i think mark did it yeah yeah clearly he always does Yeah, whatever it was, it was Mark, and I'm fine with you. I'm talking to you through my computer, if I can get, if I can get my, uh, you sound okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, and we're not, I'm not here. You're on some sort of room mic or, or. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to.

Yeah, but I don't hear any echo. Oh, I'm on the phone. Oh, hi. Oh, hi. Hi, welcome to your phone. The calls were coming from inside Nicole the whole time. Oh, no. I don't understand.

Well, that's weird because usually you'd have a little phone icon next year. name, but I don't only see the computer icon. I was going to say your computer is probably using your iPhone's microphone. So you just go onto your iPhone and click the little microphone button and switch it to, switch it to Mac. I'll disconnect it and see what it does. All right. Let's try that again.

Let's see what happens. Hopefully you're still here. You still here? I hear. Nope. She's, I see. Oh, now you are. Now we hear you.

Well, the boy. Oh. I'll just do it. I'm sorry. That's all right. No, I like having a tech segment that immediately is followed by tech problems. That's my favorite thing. That's right. No worries at all. I think we need to get Tim Apple on the phone. Tim Apple. Tim Apple.

One of my greatest friends. He'll do it. He's your best friend. Hey, let's get to it. We got a record of vision pro. We have. He really may not be able to soon. No, that's five days. Nope. Let's do these recommendals. These are things we've seen on streaming services. that we think are good enough that we come on the show and then tell people to watch. We're going to start with Brian like we always do.

Brian, what do you have and what should we lead into with your clip here? Boy, this goes perfectly with our feud topic last week, which was worst Nicholas Cage movies. If you listen to audience scores, this might be on the list. If you listen to critics, this is definitely not on the list. And I'm siding with critics on this one. I really enjoyed this. So you're going to hear a little Nicholas Cage here in a second. All right, here we go.

This is my wife, Janet. Oh, hi. Hi, I'm Claire. Hello, Janet. When did you get married? Oh, wow. That's about, well, let's see. Fifteen years.

Yeah, 15 years ago. Well, I'm so glad I ran into you. You've been on my mind a lot lately. I'm sorry, how do you two know each other? Oh, well, Claire and I used to date. Yeah. Wild, right. Anyway, you've been on my mind recently.

Yeah, I haven't thought about you in a while. Okay, good to know, I guess. Anyway, the reason that you've been on my mind is because you keep popping up in my dreams. Really? Yeah, like a lot in the last few weeks. It's so strange, you don't do anything, you're just there. Even if the dream's completely unrelated to you. Like the other night, a good friend of mine is lying in the street, hit by a car, bleeding, dying in my arms, right?

And then this is just in the dream, of course. And out of nowhere, there you are, just strolling by. Wow, I'm, well, I mean, that is so strange. So I don't intervene at all. I don't help out. You're still doing that? Oh, man. So this is the dreamy one, Nicole is.

This is, yeah. Nicole said, yeah, it's called Dream scenario. Just landed both on Max and Prime at the same time. So you can watch in either place. uh nicholas cage here's the premise nicholas cage uh starts appearing in everybody's dreams he's this he's this you know uh doofy kind of uh family guy uh or family man if you will um who just starts randomly appearing in everybody's dreams but not as a participant just as this bystander who walks by there's someone dreaming about being chased by alligators and there's uh nicholas cage as uh what's

His character's name, Paul Matthews, just walking by, just looking, or an earthquake. What do you say? He is not. He is not aware. And so people start coming to him and saying, oh, my God, I just dreamt about you. And sooner, soon after that, it becomes kind of this big sensation that everybody's dreaming about Paul Matthews or having him appear in their dreams. and he becomes kind of a little bit of a celebrity because of it. And then things start to go awry as they do in these movies.

And I won't say what happens. Or me excited horror and comedy. It is, it is, you know what I compare it to? Like when we started watching this and stuff started happening, one of the first things I did was look up to see if this happened to be directed by Michelle or Michael Gondry, Michelle Gondry, the French director who did Eternal Sunshine. of the spotless mind because this feels like that style of movie and if you like that movie and you like some of the ambiguousness that comes with the the experience then then i don't you

won't have a problem with this i think the reason that the critic score is so high and that the audience score is is lower is because um some of the people who who rate at low might have might have wanted um more things explained to them and i'll kind of leave that this is a co-produced by ari aster who i love for yes yes and uh and in addition to nicholas cage so his wife there you heard in the clip is julian nicholson who played um kate winslet's best friend and mayor of east town oh i love her she's great she's great and she's great in this you also get michael sarah as kind of a tech fund kind of

dude, a tech fund bro. Tim Meadows as the dean of the school where Paul Matthews works. He's played like a school figure. Yeah, he does lately right. Yeah, exactly whether it's a principal or a teacher or whatever. Tim Meadows,

I think he's found a niche. He's getting typecast. Man. This, yeah, this I found to be you kind of described it, Nicole, as comedy drama, it certainly does fit that. It is, it is not straight comedy. You might be led to think that, all right, yeah, fun. Let's watch this with the kids.

Things, you know, there's a point in the movie that things kind of get dark in places, and so you don't necessarily want to maybe have the kids watch with you. But not so dark, not dark enough that it's like a horror film, but it definitely goes places. Interesting. I've been curious about this one because not just the disparity, and it's not like the worst user reviews. It's like 68 or something. But usually when you see a disparity like this, it's the other way around. Right, right.

The high audience score, low critics. And no, this, I'm definitely on the side of the critics. We really, we both really like this. And we feel like there's this, this is, I think second only to pig as, you know, as our favorite critically acclaimed in Nicholas Cage movie. For me, come on, Conair is still going to be the top of the heap.

Yeah, you got to love Conair. It really is a heap. But the Raising Arizona's up there, but I still love it. I haven't seen this, and I'm going to watch it. I'm vaguely interested in this Norwegian filmmaker who wrote and directed it.

Yeah, Christopher Borgley. The phrase Norwegian filmmaker. It's not something anybody ever says. And, like, I really, really love that A-24 has been making things like this happen. Oh, no, I love it. Dude, you know, it used to be kind of a joke. It's like, well, Blumhouse is going to keep making these, them, they are horror movies. And A-24 is going to make these, like, kind of indies, but they're more mainstream.

And they're somehow going to tap into all this stuff. And they have done exactly what they went and set out to do. Those movies are great. I've yet to see an A-24 that I was like, you know, that I didn't like. I've liked it all. Yeah. Oh, dude, they're going to, they're surely making some stinkers. but I'm saying they are.

You're casting a nice wide net. Yeah, and they're not afraid to go to jump onto something weird. There was another movie that I'm, well, maybe I'll save it for a future. No, I'll talk about really, really quick. Because I'm sure I'll watch something else between now and then. But it's called Landscape with Invisible Hand. And it's another A24 film. This was recommended to me by the New York Times mailing list that I'm on.

And I never would have heard about it otherwise. But it's about a future where aliens have come to Earth. They hover over us in these giant platforms and where they let the elite come up and live. The rich can come up on these little platforms that hover over the earth and live. And then they watch kind of like with social media, the humans that are left on Earth. And you get higher points with the aliens if you have a relationship because they don't have love in their culture. so they watch relationships and give those high points and they actually make money. You make money by having a relationship.

So this couple decide to fake a courtship so that they can just make the money from the aliens. And it's bizarre. It's really bizarre. But that one's called Landscape with Invisible Hand. It's interesting. It's definitely A-24. It's definitely that style of a weird indie film. So that's kind of a mid-commental.

I just found a Rotten Tomatoes list that has 134 A24 movies ranked in order of their critic rating. And you've never heard of like the bottom 15. And the, and I think there's a genius there too. You've never heard of those bottom ones. They didn't promote it. They did, you know, like they, as they were releasing a movie, they realized, oh, this is a stinker. They just didn't, you know, they didn't put it out in a place where you're going to know. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. Sometimes you forget that some of their best ones like, all of their best ones have had Oscar nomination yeah lady bird 8th grade it's moonlight freaking these are huge Marcel the show

Florida Project Oh really that was 824 That's cool Florida Project Yeah past lives a big one That Amy Amy Winehouse documentary was them Amazing stuff yeah But then you're right Brian or Randy There's some real stinkers at the bottom of those things

When you have that many It's easy to have you list that far and wide Mostly positive, though, looks like. Like most of this is a... There's a 2012 Charlie Sheen movie from A24 called A Glimps Inside the Mind of Charles Swan the Third. I've never heard of this. What?

Interesting. That got me curious. But the first, there's a total, in the list, they have a total 134, and the first hundred and one, sorry, 114 are all, all, I almost said frozen. I meant fresh. are they frozen yeah they're all the movie frozen and frozen too and uh there you go uh anyway so that is called a dream scenario uh like you said you can currently watch it either on max or on prime and um i do recommend it uh nick nicholas cage i just found out got the golden globe nomination for um for this this last year so i didn't realize it had been out long enough to to grow to that i guess it came out last year just got just made it to streaming recently It's one of these weird ones, no one heard of, and then here it is on streaming. Pretty much. Exactly.

I am going to watch that. All right, let's swing it on over to Nicole with her recommendal. It looks like something the whole family can enjoy. The funny thing is, it took a year for Bryans to get a streaming. I think it only took mine like a couple weeks. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not because it did bad or anything. It's just one of these things.

It was a big release. But before we get to my recommendal, I'm dying to talk to you guys about Alan Wake 2. Have you played it yet? I have it. I have not hit play. Someone gifted it too. I'm boycotting video games right now. All right.

You remember my love of Alan Wake. That was like my game of the year. Oh, totally. And then when control came out, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so amazing. So I got into Alan Wake 2 and I'm really, really, really, really enjoy it. And there's a whole, like, it's doing some really fun stuff with it. There was a whole scene and I even, I think I put it on threads that reminded me of the opener of Peacemaker. Did you watch Peacemaker?

Oh, yeah. I think Brian did the recommendal on that. Now I so badly won it season two of Peacemaker. That's when they get you. That's when they come along and say, eh, we're not going to do that. Yeah. Yeah.

So I just wanted to recommend that you guys play Alan Wake, too. It's really enjoyable. It's a, you play as two different characters. You play as an FBI agent at first, but then you eventually get to play as Alan Wake and you kind of go back and forth. Yeah. It's a, it's, I mean, last year it was just like a,

a whisker hair away from, best, you know, game of the year. Had it not been for Balder's Day last year? Nominated for everything. Yeah. It's like second best game of the year last year. Let's put it that way. I'm really enjoying it.

Cool. Cool. All right. I'm going to play your clip. Do you want me to play your clip or do you want to set anything up for this clip? It's, I watched this with the kids over my mom's house. She bought it.

And then like a week later, I'm like, oh, you can't have on Max now. Yeah. But yeah. It was fun. I don't know if anybody asked for it, but we got it. Yeah. So there you go.

Here you go. I'll play it. Whoops, why is there no volume? Hold on. Here we go. Let me out of here. I demand to be released. Incredible.

I can speak. Well, of course I can speak. Now, let me out of here, or I shall shriek. Let me out. Not until I take a good look at you. Good evening. So you're the funny little man who's been following me. Funny little now.

How dare you? I will have you know that I am a perfectly respectable size for a numpur. In number what now? In fact, in Lumpurland, I am regarded as something of a wopper. They call me lofty. So I will thank you to stop gawping at me as though I was something unpleasant you'd found in your handkerchief. I find it uncomfortable and frankly rude. All right, there you go.

A taste of wanka there. My daughter also watched this this week. Carter, what was your up or down on that? She didn't like Timothy Chalamane it. Oh, really? But she liked the movie. They were okay with the movie and the music and the prequel and all that. Yeah, it's a musical.

I mean, there's a lot of singing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and it's not just a musical. It is a musical by Neil Hannan of the Divine Comedy, one of my favorite bands. So loved the music for this, love the soundtrack. Yeah, that stuff's all good. I don't know.

Like you said, you don't know if anyone needed this, but I don't know, that's fine. You know, the Tim Burton thing left a bad taste. and everybody's mouth. This is an actual prequel to the one everyone likes and shared a lot of the music. I haven't seen it yet,

but I feel 100% fine that this exists. It's fine. I do too. And it was actually perfect timing because I think the week prior was when I showed Mateo the original Charlie and the chocolate factory.

Yeah. And so that kind of like shook them a little bit watching the original. Yeah, it's a little dark. You know, it gets surprisingly dark in places. So this was a little lighter and you kind of got to see. And I picked that clip specifically because really the first kind of publicity that I heard about Wonka was how much Hugh Grant hated filming this movie. You hear that about him all the time.

He always seems like he's just a piss pot on set. And the only reason he did it was because he has five kids and he needed money. that's fine i really like him these days on like stuff i've seen the gentleman this uh what was the other one i really kind of oh uh the d and d movie i thought he was great in that like he's he's great he's just such a he's such a curmudgeon though it sounds like he's just kind of a pisser and that's fun yeah wasn't he wasn't he kind of a butt at the golden globes or something there was something where he was like getting interviewed and he was just kind of an ass A little short or dismissive or something with a person who's, you know, which, granted, those, those red carpet interviews are, I know. I kind of agreed with him, but I was also like, well, when in Rome, I mean, what do you do it? Yeah, you're there to do. Yeah, you're there to promote your thing. So do that and move along. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it is what I mean, every job has the ability to be a job, even the coolest job, right? And you kind of forget.

And I think that's where he's at. He's just like, uh, it's a paycheck. Yeah. I get it. Boy, this, uh, this director, Paul King is on the rise. His last three films have been Paddington, Paddington, too, and Wonka. Oh, wow. That's like, that's, that's quite a, a sudden step into Hollywood.

Mm-hmm. Well, that makes sense of why Hugh Grant was in Wanka, because he probably worked with him on Paddington, because he was, uh, oh, he's also in that. I never saw those Paddington movies. I didn't either. they're good yeah very good yeah people are into them um i don't know why i mean it just didn't seem like i think i should go see in theaters it just i don't know why it just just felt weird and then i never got around to seeing it at home maybe i should finally watch those but maybe he's your next big um you know spillberg christopher columbus style uh uh director type dude who go on

dude it's certainly possible and like the answer to the question my answer to the question why does this movie exist no one asked for is warner brothers man they like they have to do this this is what they look around for like what properties do we have that we could mine for gold yeah yeah I think it did okay the way that they set

this up because you don't so you get the umpalupa like he saved umpalo umpas but that they didn't really address that in this movie so I'm like they're probably if this would have I guess it did well I don't know if it did

well I did well it did well it did well it did well It mostly did pretty well. Yeah, made back its money. They can set it up for a Wonka 2 where you get more of the oompa-lupa story. I really don't think Hugh Grant would have agreed. Yeah. I mean, it's another paycheck. Maybe you will.

He'll just be grumpy on set. He'll just be like, ah, I freaking hate this. I want to go back to Notting Hill and make out with, what's her name? Jilia Roberts. The great, by the way, great cast in this thing. I just came off of watching all of Peep's show. so Patterson Joseph, who is the head of one of the rival candy companies, as well as Matt Lucas, like, yeah, the slugworth.

Can we have a recommendtals where we don't mention Olivia Coleman? No, we cannot, because she's excellent this one too. Matt Lucas, British Bakeoff co-host and... Oh, little bald guy. The little, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like him. He's great. I didn't know he was in this. Yeah, it's, it's, it's,

I really enjoy this. I'm glad you're recommending it. I did. And the kids really enjoy it. It was for the kids, right? It's for the children. Yeah. Trying to get them into that.

Every generation, you try to get them into, like, what was popular with their parents were kids. And it's a nice. Is there a freaky water tunnel where they get all yelled at and see a bunch of crazy shit? There is not. This is the scrappiness of Wonka when he first starts out in penetrating the chocolate lord's business. Yeah, the chocolate lord. You know what they don't do is they don't Indiana Jones this and have every Wonka thing get, every part of his origin story get introduced in the space of about 10 minutes where it's like, this is why I like chocolate. This is why I have that horrible tunnel.

this is why I cover things with soap and bubbles and yeah yeah that's I mean when I was a kid that first movie was really a big deal these days it's harder for me to get as excited about this sort of stuff I think than when you're a kid because obviously you're a kid and these are made for kids but if a movie's made well it it will have aspects to it that you know adults can get into like bluey and some of these shows like that and it sounds like this does a decent job of that there's nostalgia there for the old thing there's some funny stuff that only adults would really chuckle at um so yeah i just i'll get around to seeing this i'd say i'd say it's the only really good thing that timothy shallomay has done recently yeah you know you can you can go there

if you'd like to go there but that gives this is what i find out if scott's looking at or listening to me or typing something on it uh you know we can always go there it's totally fine with me Yeah. So now you're not allowed to even mention Dune the rest of the show. Yeah. I've already gone over my allotment of two or whatever it was. So we're already, we're already in that space. It's going to be like a ferry road thing. Oh, it's almost worse. There's going to be a series for, but isn't there a series coming for Oslo? No, for Dune there is. Dune's getting a spin-out children of Dune news series type era thing. I forgot what's called Awakening. No, that's the video game.

That's also coming out. That looks awesome. But yeah, all I can think about is Doom. But yesterday, the new Furiosa trailer dropped, and you're all lucky. I'm not talking about that all day. Well, but Nicole's right, actually. That is setting up a sitcom. Everybody loves Furiosa.

It's going to be airing on CBS starting this fall. Can't wait. Oh, my gosh. So it's a movie. I thought it was a series. No, that's a movie. That's a sequel. a proper sequel that's george miller out in the desert filming shit technically prequel yeah yeah i watched

that uh trailer 13 times yesterday i'm sure you i really did i paused it i looked at screens the brooder tape i'm sure you analyze that thing oh 100% dude i'm zooming in on weird little details who's that guy in the backer what's that guy doing brian i would love to get with you and write some like all in the furiosa fanfic all in the furiosa that's great yeah yeah it's uh it's uh i'm very i could not be more excited about it. But until then, yeah, Dune's all consuming. It's all I can think about. All right. Randy, let's dive over to your portion here.

We got a clip and you'll set it up for us. What are we doing? I have mentioned this before. And I just, when it started streaming, I went and watched it because it's, I think, one of my top 10 favorite movies of the 2010s, I think, which is just wild

to be. But I just gave you a few seconds of the beginning of this movie because there's no point in playing. too much. All right, here we go. Tower. This is McGuffin Airlines Flight 11338. We are transporting 11 million sticks of dynamite, 17,000 pounds and C4, about 150 cute little

classic bomb type bombs. And two best friends. And request permission to fly over the most crime-ridden city in the world. Over? I'm just looking at all the guys' faces here in the control tower. I'm good. Sounds good to me. Do it. Yeah, as long as they're best friends. And yep, I think we're cool with that.

I don't remember this. Oh my gosh. very, very beginning of the Lego Batman movie. Oh shit. Which came out in 2017. Seems like longer. I don't know why. And it's the answer to my question when, who's your favorite Batman?

Yes, Will Arnett is my favorite Batman of all time. Nice. Nice. It is so good, guys. Yeah, I love that movie. It's maybe more, I like it more than the Lego movie. I don't know if that's sacrosanct

to say that. That actually, you know, that actually makes me want to see it because I was like meh on the Lego movies and I haven't seen Lego Batman so I need to see it. I don't really think of the other Lego movies like I would just say this one this is the this is the Lego movie like yeah it's really good it's funny

in a way that the others aren't it's more for us it feels like I don't know there's something there's special sauce in that one and yes it's still Will Arnette moving forward from the other one and you know he did Batman and that as well but this was the perfect little spin off and I adore it this one's

This one's great. So it's a good, it's a good pick. I can't believe that was 2017. It feels like two minutes ago. That's weird to me. Yeah, I can't,

I can't explain it. But it's just, it's just so, it's so natural it feeling, which is really hard to explain. So you just have to watch it. Like, it feels like the perfect Batman movie.

Like, like you could have done this in any other way. You know, like this could have been an animated, uh, with, you know, like hyper stylized.

It could have been watercolor. It could have been live action. Although live action would have been a stretch To get all these people to do all these things But like it's just perfect It's perfect Batman movie It's really good I would put it in top

Three Batman movies for me I think my list goes dark night Number two, The Batman Oh wow, that's a strong case And number three Lego Batman and then the rest All the way down to the shitty ones Yeah And our second mention of Michael Sarah

In Recommendals today too oh yeah well we like that guy he's great this is a this is a straight comedy like this movie is funny from beginning to end and michael sarah has the enviable job of being a disjointed robin like a robin who is who is so down for whatever and batman is just like i don't know

yeah i it's great brian if you've not seen it it is a hoot and it's also i don't know it has heart it's just good oh my gosh a good Guy whose Wikipedia page I was on for quite a while is in this. Mark Jonathan Davis, a.k.a. Richard Cheese. Oh. Richard Cheese, eh? Dick cheese, as we call him. Dick cheese. Yeah, no cameras.

Super, super bit role. Yeah, he's only in this because he's a super, super, super bit guy. Yeah, it's kind of a big guy. But also, he, basically, he said, look, is this got cameras like live action? They said no. That's right. This is going to go on social media. Is it okay that I'm in? Okay. It's just cartoons of like Lego people. All right, I'm fine. it really it really makes the most of voice actors like if if you love jenny slate like i do if you love jason mansukas conan o'brien is in this uh it just like everybody billy d williams is two-faced funny funny funny great two face yeah isn't he too he's harvey dent in the uh movies

for um um tim burton movies he was harvey dent uh billy d william so that was kind of like a funny little yeah he's actual two-faced in this though billy bob thornton right oh i don't know was he who was uh who was two face in the um when they when two face was an actual villain and not the tim burton one but in the um schumacher oh that was uh that that's uh no country for old men it was the it was uh no country for old men yes uh outhouse shit house hen house and farmhouse Tommy Lee Jones i do was three three names I could not get Billy Bob Thornt out of my damn That was painful for everyone It was painful for everyone

Yeah, so he became the new two-face After they replaced Billy Dee Williams with him This goes on and on and on This movie has both Garfunkel and Oates This movie has Ellie Kemper in it I like I didn't Until this viewing I never noticed That Ellie Kemper was in this movie

Of course, she's awesome She's always awesome Yeah everyone loves Ellie Kemper Are you kidding me Well that's awesome Go see it Where is this again streaming Amazon Prime. Nice. Amazon Prime is your friend today, but only today. All right. Let's get to mine. It's a quick one. And I cannot recommend this thing enough. And you're all going to roll your eyes because you're going to think, oh, it has to do with Dune. Well, it does, but not the Dune you're thinking of. And I have my daughter to thank for this because she's the one that told me about it. I'll play a clip.

I told you about this. You did? Did you tell me about this? Years ago. Years and years ago. I told you this was like one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. And I told you about it and you didn't watch it. I must have forgotten.

Well, it turns out my daughter has more sway than you. It turns out. Anyway, here it is. This system makes of us slaves without dignity, without devid. No? With a devil in our pocket. this incredible money I'm in the pocket this money this this this shit this this nothing this paper who have nothing inside movies have heart boom boom boom

have mine have power have ambition I wanted to do something I wanted to do something like that. Why not? Yeah, why not indeed, says Alejandro Jodoroski. This is Jodoroski's Dune. And it is a documentary, as Randy said. This came out in 2013, which is probably about the time you recommended it to me. And I forgot all about it. Don't do it. It was on Netflix. It was on Netflix for years.

Yeah, I didn't, I just, I don't know what stopped me. But this is the kind of thing I would, I should have gotten on to. This turned out to be one of my favorite things I've seen in a very long time, documentary-wise. It's basically the story of a cult film director. His name was Alejandro Jodorowski. He's still alive. He's in his 90s now. He'd been in his 80s here.

A very ambitious dude who went, you know, started some very strange films in the late 60s, early 70s. and they're some of the oddest things ever and even just the clips they showed in this documentary it's like what the frick was going on with this guy well he got the rights back in the early 70s to do dune Frank Herbert's dune and he got it easily it was very cheap to get those rights because nobody thought this was going to work out everyone thought there's no way you're making dune into a film and they said go ahead and try here are the rights to give it a shot so he started to pool the most amazing team you've ever heard of. And this documentary goes through all of that process of him seeking out people like

H.R. Geiger, who ended up being on the project. And Chris Foss, one of the greatest science fiction, like book cover and the concept artists ever, still around. Chris Foss is amazing. Salvador Dali of all people. Wow. Was involved in this thing. It was actually going to be in. It was going to be the emperor.

a hot second um that didn't really work out this the uh he was going to cast his son brontas joe uh jodorowski as the as the role of paul at tradies and that guy turns out is in a ton of stuff the guy's working he's got he's doing things yeah he was in um it prometheus anyway a lot of smaller roles but a ton of stuff you've seen him in the last duel uh fantastic beast the crimes at grinderwald or whatever that's called a bunch of other stuff um anyway he was supposed to be Paul. They had these other concept,

oh, I almost forgot to say, the French guy. Oh, geez. The artist, he's dead now, died right around

the time the movie came out. His name was Mobius. Oh, that explains the poster. Yeah, very Mobeus looking, right? And some of that's Mobius.

Some of that is Chris Voss, but, or Foss, rather. But it's, it's just a crazy amount of talent,

especially that era's kind of talent. At one point, Brian, I thought of you for, just because you love music, it was going to star, what's his name from the Stones? Can't think of his name all of a sudden? Nick Jagger. He was going to be the...

Tangerine Dream was tied to this for a Mike Oldfield who did the Exorcist theme and tubular bells and all that stuff. They had tapped at one point the entirety of Pink Floyd to do. Pink Floyd, look at that, yeah. This weird, I forgot the other band. There's another band in there that's very weird.

Anyway, they had this just magma. Yeah, they had this. That's it. That's it, magma. Well, I just talking to the Rolling Stones. Right, right. Yeah. Red on airlight. And then the whole point is, what was my point? My point is he had all these people, all this stuff to do and had this giant book made, had what, four or five copies or something like that made, and then he sends them to studios

to propose this thing. And they all are impressed, but they all turn it down. And nobody really wants to give them the money. and they get into the idea, or he talks about how, you know, the thing finally got made in 84 and that it wasn't good and he was kind of glad about that. And he wrestled with this feeling of why should I be glad that other creatives couldn't pull it off when, you know, and there's like a subtext of the creative process and what failure does to you as a creative and all this sort of stuff. And also, here's the part that really hit me. They describe it in the movie as Dune at that time was like, a comet that was headed right toward Earth. And then at the last second, it veered off. But it ceded the planet with a bunch of dust. And then they started showing all of these examples of stuff that Joe Dorowski's doom

100% inspired things in Star Wars, things in a bunch of... Probably an alien because of Geiger. Well, literally, the Geiger, or Geiger, rather, I always forget it's Geiger. or Giger. Geiger and the head of special effects for Alien were both doing those same two jobs on this. And so that's how they cooked up. That's how they met Ridley Scott. That's how they went on to do their thing.

Wow. And so the whole point was like, all these little things happen, even though that project never got lifted off, all these ideas got used by somebody. And even Prometheus, like more recent stuff, there's straight up like things in the movie that are right out of these illustrations, like right out of these concept art things. And I mean, he really did have the movie kind of frame by frame

storyboarded by Mobius. This whole thing was written out, which is how they were trying to sell the movie. And they wanted $15 million. Back in the 70s, that was a lot of money. Studios thought it was going to go over budget. They just didn't trust it. Blah, blah, blah. You know, you bring it Kern. It's crazy where we're at

now. And this is the biggest selling movie the year and all that. It is so good and so fascinating and so I'll put it this way. If you're an artist or a creator of any kind and you're lacking a little inspiration right now for big ideas and breaking through and finding more inside your creative brain and that sort of thing, this movie is a big inspiration. I'm curious, Scott, about your take on the subtext, though,

because like the entire documentary is kind of giving you the impression that all these people do is the basis of doing drugs. Like everything he says, everything he says he sounds like he's tripping. I mean, a little bit. Like he says, for example,

one of his goals was he says he wanted to make a profit, not a movie. He wanted to make a thing that fundamentally changed everybody. Like he was really crazy about it. Like in a way, in a way, he wanted to be the spice that is in the, that is represented.

He wanted to be the melange of filmmakers. and have everybody affected by it and all that. And so he had really high-minded ideas about it, but also he would say things like, well, he's like, I want to make a movie that mimics LSD's effects, but not have everyone take drugs. I want it to be like that.

He would take the drug, but then the audience didn't need to take the drug. Right. It's also another good example of somebody taking material and adapting it. Like adaptation, people forget that adaptation is a lot about a director or screenwriter's own vision. So when people complain about, oh, Villeneau changed these three things about the Dune movies,

I don't like that they changed that from the books. This will always happen. You will always have changes. And this movie was going to have some really weird changes. Like his plans were wackadoo. The way this thing ends, completely gnarly and weird. Like, I don't even want to give it away because you need to hear what they had planned if you're a Dune fan at all. Now, if you come into this as a reader of the books or a lover of the movies

or even if you like the 84 business, you're going to get more out of this than if you have not had any connection with Dune at all. I will say that. It's not a bad documentary for just someone green. I'm just saying it will benefit you. You will like it even more if you're into the material. And I could not, could not recommend this enough. It's right now it's on HBO Max. And along with all the other Dune shit they got up there other than the new movie, including part one. And it is so, so good. So first of all, Randy, apologies. I didn't know what, I didn't know what you had handed me years ago. All right. I didn't know. But also thanks to Carter, who's been riding me to watch it for about, I don't know, a month or two, more than that, maybe.

It is so freaking good. And I'm just saying to all you artists out there, even if you're just doing it for fun, just creatives in general, this thing is so for you. And it will inspire you. So go watch it all right cool that's jodorowski's dune spelled j o rau rau sky i just want to repeat for you this is about the attempted making of a first dune film before the first dune film correct like that is that is a really it's kind of a rough thing to understand if you haven't been yeah it's a failed attempt to make that movie and and it's the it's in the failing that we learn a lot like there's a lot here to take away from it and it's nothing to do with david lynch's attempt well there's just a bunch of alexandro otorowski like saying cool stuff throughout this movie oh yeah

and he goes back and forth the guy the guy's interesting because he goes back and forth between spanish and um in english he's chilean by by origin spent time in france and all these other places and his son has a weird like 10 accents in one kind of voice it's really weird obviously spent you know spent his life going all around the world but uh Yeah, it's mostly Spanish and then mixed with some English. So there's some subtitles and stuff. But that guy's passion, even at 85, is just this palpable weird thing. I've never seen a guy more excited about making shit than this guy.

So, yeah, I recommend it full-heartedly. And even interview Geiger, which is rare. He doesn't come out much. Wow. Yeah, no kidding. That guy doesn't usually do two interviews. I mean, he died like a year later. but this is you know he's awesome anyway love it don't you love it when creatives are super super

passionate oh yeah because like a lot of them are just you know off doing their art right right like every now and like i got i was lucky enough to get to know and work with sam wise didier for years and like so passionate like ridiculous like it just it spills on to you and it makes you want to go draw something i know that guy he's he's a great example of like a modern example of that just so into it that that's all he wants to do is make orcs you know that's all he wanted to do just sit around and draw works all day and he got to which you know how many of us can say that so anyway there you go three four sorry big recommendals today go check them out they'll be up at quicktms dot l i they're probably already there if i know brian they are and uh go check them out

and see for yourself if they're any good Nicole it's been a lovely having you here I hope you're I hope you're weird discord issues solve themselves one day hey can I promote something of course Always. So, I started a channel for our cat Oreo. All right. What platform we talk? It's on Instagram and TikTok. It isn't only fans, unfortunately.

So I got this camera and I put it around his neck. And he looked, because I want to see where he goes. Like, we found him outside. He won't stay inside. And we've put like a bunch of different collars on. them and eventually they pop off. So I'm like, where are you going? So I'm getting this video and I can't stop watching it.

So I started to upload it to Instagram. So if you want to see. Oh, my God. I totally want to see this. Oh, my God. It is the funnest video to watch. What's the, is it Oreo the cat or what is it? WW Oreo.

It's Oreo's Adventures. And on TikTok, I think it's like Oreo walks or something like that. Are they the same on Instagram as the other? Are they different? They're the same videos. No, I mean, this is the same URL on Instagram as it is on, you know what I'm saying? Like the same slash? No, it's not.

Oh. Well, good luck, everybody. Go find those. When I make TWAW Oreo, Mark's like, well, maybe you just make something that's apart from the Wood Whisperer. I'm like, all right, I already created the Instagram account. So I'll change it on the TikTok account. So it's Oreo walks on TikTok.

All right. Cool. But you don't remember what it is on Instagram? What is it, Instagram again? W what? Instagram is T.W.O.O.O.O.O. He's a black and white. Yeah, he's a black and white tuxedo cat that we found in a tree.

And we adopted them and, you know, we couldn't keep him inside. So I quickly had him neutered. And, yeah, he just. That was awesome. Trees. He got into to a cat fight. I think it was a cat. see it. So I'm still playing around

with like the angle of the camera on his awesome. Yeah. This is a very cool idea. I love it. I got it from another account called Mr. Kidders. And I was like, oh my God, I got to do this with Oreo because I need to know where he goes. What kind of camera is it? Just curious.

If you figure out the angle to get it forward instead of looking straight down his legs, then that'd be great. Yeah. What's the, what's the camera? What kind of cameras this? It's like a GoPro or something? Insta 360. Insta 360. So it's the instant 360

times three so the third generation of it yeah but just watched him jump from one tree to another

oh my god it's great what I just uploaded was him climbing a tree and he gets up pretty oh yeah

oh look at this little thing these are cool no kidding yeah it is an expensive camera she's $400 I also have a

tracker on it I was going to say you have a way to retrieve said camera. No kidding. That's expensive. But cool. I love this idea.

This is great. This cat is living his best life with all this. What if the cat, what if you get video of it getting mounted by another cat or something like that? Well, fortunately the camera's face it the other way. And Nicole doesn't have to upload those. That's true.

Those are for the only fans page. I think like 45 minutes of video each time he goes out. so I just kind of scan it and yeah I just great I love it dude this is great this is great I wanted to kill a mouse the cat licking its butt I love this yeah there's nothing more I mean that I haven't seen the guy with the duck on TikTok in a long time oh who is that who's the duck guy uh gosh uh years ago I used to always see this guy called two turnt Tony two turnt Tony and he has it just go places with his duck Oh, here he is. And you just go play some with the duck.

And like it was great content, fantastic content, because everybody loves the duck. Oh, yeah, he's got a busy account. Well, well done, two takes Tony. What is it, too, sorry, two turn Tony. Turn Tony. It drives me crazy that my 4U page on TikTok changes and it evolves slowly. Like, there's things that I saw five years ago that I haven't seen since. Yeah, I don't know if those people are still what that means sometimes.

I miss those people. I don't know how to easily find them. TikTok's got a problem with that part. It's all just rando shit. Well, they're going to, that whole bill died in the Senate and maybe we'll get a better version. I don't know. Doing. Yep, doing.

All right. That's it. Nicole, have a great one. We'll see you later. Randy, you know how to do it. Oh, I forgot to mention film sack this weekend. We're doing, um, Cowboys and aliens. Oh, that's right.

Versus aliens, Cowboys v. aliens. Is it versus? What is it? I don't know. I don't know what it is. Cowboys and the aliens who love them. The comic is, there it is,

cowboys and I guess it just Cowboys and aliens. Cowboys and aliens, okay. Neither of us have seen this, right? I haven't seen it. I saw it a long time

when it first went to streaming. All right. Well, together we see it again. I've never seen it, so we'll see how it goes. Broke back aliens. Broke back aliens. I can't quit you,

Daniel Craig at all. That's right. That is Daniel Craig, right? It is Daniel Craig. And Harrison Ford, right? Harrison Ford. remember, frankly? I think so.

Directed by John Fabro, which may be one he regrets. I don't know. That is it for that. Let's play a quick final call here. This is a way to tell origin stories in Marvel movies. This was sent to us via,

let's see, I don't know if I have a name, but we'll play it. Hey, this is for TMS. It's Jay from New Hampshire. You guys always talk about, you know,

movies, what they do, you know, the Marvel movies with the origin stories. I think we're forgetting the Hulk, the one with Edward Norton, when that one, in the credits, they did his whole story, like, while the credits were ruling. Oh, that's true, yeah. And it was like, I think it was actually even set up like a comic book. Like, I remember it being like pictures, but it pretty much told the story how he became the Hulk. And then we jumped right into the story.

They need to do that again. Yeah. I'm okay with that. I am too. I think that's a cool way to do it. Was it the Banda one that did? I thought it was the Banda one that did lean really heavily into the comic book look. They did for most of the movie, right?

The Banna one would have frames in the film. That's right. For the movie itself, they did the, yeah. And I remember one of the Ramey Spider-Man's, it may have been two did this, or caught up the story to two. Two did the previously on Spider-Man as with the origin and the opening credits with the comic books. Yep. Really well-drawn, like cool, cool-drawn.

comic book intro. I would be all for that idea, though. I'm all about, I don't need another telling of Batman or anyone else's story. I don't agree. And you know, if nothing else, that gives people a reason to go find the original comics and get the origins themselves. You know, go, go read the comics to find out the origin. Yeah, I completely agree. I like that idea, though. And I don't remember what movie it was. If it was the Hulk, I have very, you're right that they didn't really get into Edward Norton getting zapped by gamma rays, I don't think. No. So they must have told it that way, which, yeah, I'm for that. Yeah, begin the Fantastic Four film with the, with the four of them coming out of the negative zone where they've been spending the last 20 years, and

they've missed the blip, they missed the Avengers, they missed all that stuff. I love it. Or maybe this is the 50s or something. They've been stuck there. I really want like 50-60s vibe in that. Yeah. I don't know if we're going to get it. That card they made with the actors on it kind of seems like they might. It's kind of got that look, yeah. No way to tell till we get it. There'll probably be some time travel bullshit, but I don't care. I'm in.

Fantastic Four is a thing. I really legitimately am looking forward to that. And I know that trailer for Star Wars, the new or the whatever, not the New Republic, whatever was called. The Acolyte thing, yeah. Yeah, during the High Republic stuff. Very interested in that because that's a fun, that's a fun arrow we never spend time. time in. So yeah, looking forward to that. And of course, there is a brand new Furiosa trailer two out. You guys should go check it out. It is amazing. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to watch

X-Men 97 episode one today or if I'm going to wait and hopefully watch it with you and Brian on Friday. We don't know, I don't know what time yet. So we got to talk. Let's talk offline for yeah, we'll get a we'll get a combo going because I don't know what our plans are either. But yeah, they're launching some of it or not all of it or what's the deal? I thought the first episode is out. I think they're doing it week by week, but I might be wrong. Hmm. Shit. Yeah, I think you're right. And that's a bummer.

No, that's all right. It's fine. We can do it all the time. Builds anticipation. That's right. Anticipation. You'll just, you'll know it as soon as you see a giant X on magnetos. Or no, giant M.

M. Big M. He's the magnetic M&M. He's got metal in him. Oh, Sean Bloom says new alien movie trailer out today. Alien movie or the show? Really? Is it the show or the...

Is it the show or the... Is it a new? Probably doesn't matter because of it. I'll take it no matter what. Whatever it is, I want it. Let's see. We've got some news. Alien Romulus.

Director Fano Res, Restore Series, handmade roots. It's a movie. It is a movie. All right, I'll be watching that right after this. Oh, man. Bring all my genre in one year. Let's do it. Boy, the new Ghostbusters is getting some sour reviews.

That's bumming me out. Is it really? I've got tickets for it tomorrow night. but hopefully I enjoy the food. I'll enjoy, I will, I hold more sway with your review than I will, the critics. So you tell me what you think. Did you, you saw afterlife? Oh, no, you haven't seen afterlife yet.

No. I want to. I want to see it. It's almost like you hate Ghostbusters. I hate what they sometimes do to Ghostbusters. I'm always a little nervous about it. Yeah, you, Ghostbusters, too, is easy to hate. That was such a bad movie.

Yeah. Some people want to forget that it was, but it was so bad, you guys. it's not just in modern times where we have shitty sequels that whole movie is drippings with goo it's just what that is really bad uh all right uh that's the end of that let's get out of here oh i forgot about this email uh michael wrote in it's about the alarm sound uh this whole thing i'll play one more time that uh scott your doom alarm reminding me of this moment uh this is us oh i forgot he says hello sar duker and benna jeszeret jeserit jeserit jeserit jeseret jeseret jeseret Not Jesuit.

Jesuit. Yeah, I'm going to make sure I say it right now. I'm not a person who usually is affected by ASMR, but when you played that Suducar language sound clip in the middle of the show last week, it hit me with the full shivers. So as I work in a kitchen and I had to stop what I was doing at that moment because of that sound. I don't know what that says about me as a person that I react in such a way to the holy language of the brutal super soldier society.

Anyway, the spice must flow is in your show, though, he says. on a second note if this ends up on the show you don't have to read it i love dune and i i'm going to read it anyway so we're reading it i love dune and i've read the first three books i think these movies are visually impactful or sorry are a very sorry are a visually impactful interpretation of the story unfortunately for me they chose to leave out a lot of the concepts that i really love in dune they completely got rid of the benegeserite fighting scene uh and really downplayed the roles of the mentats men tats i agree with that part i wish there was more mentat stuff. Oh, I love that actor

too. I wanted more of them in Dune, too, but I guess not. Yeah, he's awesome. And the guys in the helmets earlier that they showed in the first one, we just get a visual. And if you know the books, you're immediately like, ooh, mentats, men tats, and they're addicted to freaking spice. And this is, they're like super computers and then they just go right past it.

I don't know. He says he thinks it really hurts the story if they do a third one. He wants to seek guild navigators. Michael. I mean, I agree. All of that stuff's really interesting. And especially after seeing that documentary, I realized more than ever, what we're watching is a combination of money being spent, the time it's made, the technology exists, when it's made, and a director's vision specifically, all of those things go into an adaptation. And it means that there is no such thing as a book with a perfect adaptation.

They don't exist. Even your favorites are missing huge swaths of stuff you wish. there's just no way unless it's a short story it's not gonna it's not gonna fit in a three hour movie no and if you get if you go like hey let's get really into the mentats that's a whole separate like that's a whole other movie it's a whole series you could do and maybe they will you know maybe that stuff's coming yeah um but i don't i i don't fault it's hard for me to find faults in any of this because the adaptation is so sweeping and good i forgive all that it's not hard for you cannot do it there's no such thing as taking the books of anything and making them

perfect it just won't happen because books are books and we have books we can go read those that's still a good thing we can do and then the movies are like yeah two hour uh scrunching down of what i love it's good enough it's good enough uh that's it's it for us we're done if you want to email us uh you have a you have a thing you want to say about any of that or anything else here on the show you can do it up to the morning stream at gmail.com you can also text us and voice us at 801.471.462. All other links can be found at frogpants.com slash TMS. Brian, there's only one thing left to do. Just one. A music selection from Brian. That's right. This is a short and sweet request from Kim. This is for my husband Trey for his birthday, which was on March 11. 311 day,

everybody. But that's not what we're playing. He wanted to hear a cover of 500 miles by the Proclaimers. Of course, happy to do that. This is the song is called I'm gonna be and then parenthetical 500 miles this is a great punk version of it

by MXPX as punk as they get they're not super punk but they're punk light yacht punk from the 2009 album on the cover

two here is their cover of the Proclaimers I'm gonna be 500 miles see you guys tomorrow when I wake up yeah you know I'm gonna be

I'm gonna be the man who wakes up next to you And when I go out Yeah, you know I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the man who goes along with you And if I get drunk Yeah you know I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the man who's getting drunk with you

And if I hate her Yeah you know I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the man who's havered to you And I grew up by 500 miles And I grew up five five My trek for to be the man who walked up close and miles to fall down at your door. When I'm working, yeah, you know I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be the man who's working hard for you. And when the money comes in for the work I do, I'll pass almost every penny on to you.

you and when I come home yeah you know I've got to be I'm going to be the man who's going home to you and when I grow yeah you know I'm going to be I'm going to be the man who's going on with you I would walk by 500 miles and I would want by 500 more to be the man who walked a thousand miles to fall down at your door. Do-a-da-da-la-da-la-da-da-da-da-da-la-la-la-da-la-la-la. When I'm-ta-ta-da-da-da-da-da-la-la-la. When I'm dreaming, yeah, you know I'm gonna dream, I'm gonna dream about the times when I'm with you

and when I'm lonely yeah you know I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the man who's lonely without you I'm gonna be the man who's coming home to you I would walk by

my tread and mile and I were to walk by hundred more To be the man who want a dozen miles to fall down at short time. DiDi Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada. The Mommy's all right, and Daddy's all right, they just be more little weird. Surrender. Surrender

But don't give yourself away Mommy's alright Daddy's alright And just still let our way Surrender Surrender But don't give yourself Away

Away Away Away Away Yeah I would walk by 500 miles and I would walk by 500 miles to be the man who walked up thousand miles to fall down at your door. Dura-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

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