The Morning Stream - TMS 2623: Infinity Nuggets

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

A Pocket Full Of Whoa. HOA Narcs. Managed Fascism. CakeShake. Squircle. That's too much number! Is this normal? HarKOnan the Barbarian. Pete Best Spice. Girls with giant eyes. Always check your grille...d cheese. Navigational Nomenclature. Post Sphere Farts. 31 days until Vegas. Dating a Hardware Store with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is there a TMS without its patrons? No, there isn't. Patreon.com slash TMS is easy to sign up for. Just ask the likes of, Hey, Clown Baby, Tony Welchell, and Cat Lowe, 54. Coming up on the morning stream, a pocket full of, whoa, HOA NARKS, managed fascism, Cake Shake, squircle.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That's too much number. Is this normal? Harc Conan the Barbarian. Pete Best Spice. Girls with giant eyes. Always check your grilled cheese. Navigational nomenclature. Post-sphere farts.
Starting point is 00:00:33 31 days till Vegas. Dating a hardware store with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I'm Jonathan Burroughs, your moderator. My research associates and I at Research Associates have only one client, the American consumer. No one want your dinosaur gas. The MorningStream. We're not toys. We're action figures. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. This is the morning stream. It's March 28th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Brian. Hello. Hey, man. It's a new day. It's a new world.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It's a new Thursday. It is. All of those things. It's almost a new month. We're, we're, we're, racing headlong towards the end of the month and uh yep we got 32 days 32 days till Vegas right let's see 31 days until Vegas oh shit yeah 31 days 8 hours 38 minutes and 5 seconds as of this reading yeah it's uh oh now two seconds now one second oh my gosh 37 minutes oh shit oh shit yeah it's coming fast you guys so it is it is in there in the process the arcade machine printed yesterday i'm going to do a little sanding little painting nice little applying of some stickers and a little a little shalacking nice give it a nice shalacking remind me do you print you print those stickers there you just do it yourself right you have
Starting point is 00:02:16 a color printer i print the stickers here i have a laser or i'm sorry an inkjet color printer that uh and some vinyl labels or vinyl paper i guess it's not vinyl it's just it's it's like that It's much more durable sticker paper. Yeah, exactly. And I put that on there. Well, the reason I asked, Carter and I are thinking about getting this jointly. There's like the $600 color printer that is like the work I've seen come out of it is stunningly good. Like, wow.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Like I can't believe you can do that without going to a proper printer. Like press ready looking stuff. And I never, but I don't, I feel like buying a printer, a good printer where that's your goal is good quality output. I feel like it's a landmine. I don't know who to talk to. I don't know who to get advice from. Like, I don't know who has one. You know, like, what do I do?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm not the person to ask. I mean, the question is, um, with the stuff that you guys make, like, does it do die cut to or does it just, it's like, let's say you say,
Starting point is 00:03:16 oh, let's make a sheet of stickers. Are you then going to be spending more time cutting out stickers than it would be if you send it to sticker giant, for example? Well, in this case, it would be mostly print. Just prints.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, it'd be mostly prints. And in that case, I guess we'd just, you know, you do five up or whatever and then cut them. Right. Do one of those chum cutters, yeah. Yeah. And the inkjet printers are not what they used to be, right? They used to, people think inkjet and they think, blah, blah, blah, and they think crap. But they're different now.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Like, they're really high resolution, really high, really high. I can't think of the word I'm trying to say. High quality. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think that's, you know, printer 600, but how much is the ink and how long will the ink last before you have to replace it? Those are all things you got to.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, but all of them are more expensive to keep getting ink for, right? That's just the deal now. You buy a cheaper printer and then you pay. Give them the razor for free, but charge them for the blades. I hate it. Hate it. And I know it's been a thing forever. I know, you know, HP kind of started doing it in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's not like this is new, but still annoys me. It's really, I mean, if you think about it, it's like, yeah, I guess they could do the same thing and say, all right, well, we're going to charge you Buku bucks for the printer now. And then we'll reduce the price of ink. How do you like that? Yeah. I think I liked it the other way better. Yeah, I prefer it the other way. HP.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I did see a new 3D program, a new 3D iPad modeler that I'm kind of intrigued by. It's called, Valance. I have this. You're talking about. Valance, I think. Balance. Where is it? Yeah, Valance 3D. Is it Valence? Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:03 That's not the one I'm thinking of. It just came out a couple, a few days ago. And it's a pay once, use forever, unlike Shaper 3D, which I'm using. And I would be, I don't know, there's part of me that's like, I love the fact that Shaper 3D has an iPad app and a desktop app that work with each other. So I can be on the go and say, oh, I really need to design something. thing. I can be in front of the thing that I need to design and then take you to the desktop and refine it once I've done that. But it's a subscription-based thing. And this thing is a pay once
Starting point is 00:05:37 and you've got it, but there's no desktop equivalent. I want something, I'm too spoiled now by the portable and desktop combo. Yeah, you like to bring it back and forth. I get that. I like to bring it back and forth. Yeah. The one I was thinking, I was not that. It is called, Nomad, probably. Is it nomad? I think it is nomad. There's one that's a sculpturey thing that's nomad where you like push and pull balls or draw on like a... Yeah, it's more like working with clay.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yes. Yep, I think that's nomad. The nomad is one of those like that. It's like mud box is what it's like on the PC side. Or not just mud box, there's others. But anyway, this website sucks. Yeah, it is nomad. I have nomad.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Nomad is awesome, and we'll let you export to all the stuff you want, but no, like you say, no desktop equivalent. Yeah. Like the nice thing about Procreate from a 2D artist standpoint is that I can export to any format, including PSD. So if I need to retain layers and all that, I just send a PSD to my computer and then I can open that in whatever, Photoshop, you know, affinity photo, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 But yeah, 3D, they don't, the 3D thing is usually going to pay a subscription. So anyway, I'm very curious, too. Balance 3D, everybody. It's called. Balance 3D, $2,99. It says design for iPad not verified for MacOS, but it might be one of those that I could use. Oh, you could try it, sure.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Interesting. This says go to the Mac store. Is that right? Hold on. Yeah, it's a, it's the app store is what it pulled up for me. Oh, you know what? You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Not verified, but it might work. It might work. Yeah. It's interesting. Well, if you end up doing it, let us, let me know. It's cheap, 30 bucks, that's not bad. 30 bucks, and it's a pay once. No subscription.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It's very tempting. Pretty good. I like that. And you work with, it looks easier to work with than other things that I've seen in this space, where you can start with, what do they call those? Start with your basic shapes. There's a word for those shapes. Your cylinder, ball, the cube, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Cube, et cetera. Yeah, Cone. There is a word for those, isn't there? What is that word? Your, you're, you're, start with your, yeah. Exactly. It's an old term. It's an old term.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It goes way back to like, you know, the 3D Studio Mac. Primitives. Brimitives. Brick, of course. Yeah, and just as I'm looking, scrolled right to the page where it says, tons of completely customizable built-in primitive shapes like plain, arc, cone, squirky, Scorkel. There's a squircle. It's like a, it's like a, it's like a rounded, it's like a rounded, like your iPad, I'm sorry, your Mac studio is kind of a squircle. Yeah, it is a little bit of a squircle. Rounded edge, if you look at it. Rounded tube, yeah, kind of. Like two mini stacked together. It's kind of ugly. Anyway, well, that's cool. Hey, is this normal? So I had to go to a pharmacy, pick up some meds and I go there with Kim. And it's all. also a grocery store. It's a place called
Starting point is 00:08:55 Smiths. People, locals won't... You probably have Smiths there. Kroger owns them now, so they're probably spreading out of them. We have the King Supers equivalent. Like, King Supers is our equivalent to Smith. Gotcha. Are they owned by Kroger also? I think so. They're all Kroger. Yeah, they're all Kroger. Freaking Kroger, dude. Big
Starting point is 00:09:10 grocery. Well, I don't know. You guys don't have Safeway out, though, though, right? Used to. Don't have them anymore. Okay. Yeah, there was talk of merging Kroger and whatever the company is owned Safeway. And it would just basically be this grocery monopoly here in town.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, they're huge. Like the actual Kroger's I used to go to in the South, I used to think they were quaint and small and no big deal. And now they own everybody. It's crazy. Well, anyway, we're in this place. And we go over to the thing. And we hand a lady the order.
Starting point is 00:09:43 There's a lady there, you know, the pharmacist lady. Right, your prescription. Yeah, we hand them that. And she goes, whoa, like that. now I haven't had that since that I've never seen anyone need this much of my agra right right it was a weird thing to say and I have not had that happen since I was a little kid and I had that P test I did I think I've told the story that I did a P test handed the cup to the lady and she said whoa and I never had an explanation for that and now I don't have them for this what does she mean it's like a real basic stuff be that the the doctor's handwriting was so bad it's like whoa like how am I supposed to read the kind of thing. Remember, we've talked with, well, was it handwritten or was it printed? It's printed, but it did have his signature. So maybe that
Starting point is 00:10:29 was, you know, maybe she was, or her signature, it's not of him. Maybe, uh, or it was, uh, yeah, price was really cheap. I can't, I can't imagine somebody looking at any medication and going, whoa, like, like we never get the, get the lockbox out. It's, we finally have somebody who needs
Starting point is 00:10:47 this pill that we never thought we'd have to give anybody. Yeah. Yeah. And also, she didn't like call people over to go, Dude, you got to see it. Like, it wasn't like a one of those moments at all, as far as I know. Taking a little selfie holding up your prescription so she could put it on her. Yeah, like, you won't believe this.com. And I looked at her and went, I kind of wanted to just go, what do you mean, whoa.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I didn't do it, though. Maybe the medication is called like Woe's a Pezzadrine. Woe's a Pezzadrine. And she was just calling it by its street name of Woe. Yeah, they just call it Woe if you, you know, you need a little, you need some crack. No, I don't know. I don't think so. You want some, Beth? No, but some woes of presidrine. I'll think some woes of presidrine. I got a whole, I got a pocket of woe here. Do you have, uh, do you have woe zero though?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, I need woe zero. I'm off the sugar. But yeah, it's just a weird thing, and I never asked, and it was fine in the end. And she was also, she says, well, I'm very impressed because you know the, you know the names of the things you need because I had to rattle those off. Oh. And she goes, that's very impressive. Most people don't do that. Anyway, have a great day. I'm like, please tell me why you said, whoa. Yeah, I would have said, I think I would have just said, well, like after she said it, like, well, I should have. I don't know why I was like, her confidence was about through me.
Starting point is 00:12:07 She had like, sometimes you can see somebody at like a service, customer service point job of any kind. And they just exude. They're on a whole other level of confidence. They're not intimidated by you. they've seen a million of you they don't care about any of that they have a job to do and if i was a jerk they'd blow it off like they just have a level of like security and what they're doing and she was that she just seemed so whoa well anyway like i don't know she was stopping she was stopping an invisible horse is what she was doing yeah i guess so i don't know she came over to the counter
Starting point is 00:12:44 whoa yeah i'll take care of that for you oh that'd be amazing she have a little guy behind her clapping coconuts together and all that can i tell you my favorite part though of the thing in our notes is that you spelled woe correctly i see so many people like on tic-tok and other social media who spell it w-o-a-h yeah i hate that oh my god that one's that one's my like grinds my gears and i get i get called out on it i'm such a spelling and if i type If I type that in the, like, if I type it this way, W-H-O-A, and I put it in stuff, people come after me and say, try to correct me that it's the other way. And I'm like, no. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:13:30 It's like not, it's not the other way. It's this way. It will always be W-H-O-A to me, and you can not convince me otherwise. All right? I know it's a-W-H-O-A because, whoa, HOA, don't give me any crap from my garage door. My weeds don't extend to my neighbor's yard. What are you saying? That's right. These are my weeds and they're on my side of the property.
Starting point is 00:13:52 There's only one thing worse than HOA's, and that's HOA NARCs. I posted about this yesterday. I don't like NARCs. I don't like NARCs. I don't like NARCs. The ones that tell on other neighbors. Did you get rattled on by a NARC? Last year we did. Yeah, we had a weed thing that was out of, it's not even in view. It's like on the side of the house, behind a fence, nowhere, nobody can even see this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:16 and somebody pointed it out to the HOA and when we got a note and then a picture that showed hardly I mean it was just from the road and you couldn't even tell like it was an obvious hit job by some neighbor who just has it out for people and we know
Starting point is 00:14:31 and a few people got this so it's not just me and so we're trying to by elimination we're trying to figure out who was the one that told on everybody yeah yeah it's really annoying freaking HOAs dude freaking hate them they're awful
Starting point is 00:14:44 Anyway, managed fascism is what we call it here. Sorry, fascism that you pay for. Yeah, an annual fee. Yeah, that I subsidize every damn month. Exactly. All right, we also got an update from Shaladane, Shalidane. This is a text regarding flight delays. We talked about yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It says this, hey, Stilgar and B. Baron Harkonen. Harkinen, sure. I thought you liked that movie, Scott. I do love that movie. You know what, though? That movie, those movies are the first ones I feel like that reminded me or told me that I've been saying it wrong. Because when I read the books, I hear Harkinen.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Listen, the initial movie, the David Lynch deal told us Harkon, and I've been thinking Harkonan never since then. And so when they start saying, the Harkadens are coming, it's like, oh, Harkinen? And I'm okay with a change. I just didn't know. But it's hard for me to change my, you know, 30 years since I read the book or whatever memory. So it's hard for me. So every time I hear it, I'm like, oh, yeah, right, harkening, Harkening. And also, Shalidane, why do you encourage this?
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah. Or is your name pronounced? Shalodden. Yeah, Shaladin. Shaladin. I'm also pretty sure somebody in part two said Harkonan. And I couldn't tell you who. I need to get the movie and, like, have it digitally so I can rewatch it a million times to tell you.
Starting point is 00:16:14 but somebody somewhere says it. I think it would be a great scene, a great deleted scene of the movie where, you know, Paul and somebody else are saying, is it pronounced Harkonen or is it Harkinen? Because I've always been pronouncing it Harkinen.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It'd be amazing scene. No, no, dude, it's Harkonan. Yeah, you want to piss off the book, people? Have a scene like that where they're like... Exactly. Oh, that'd be so mad. It's not Atridis.
Starting point is 00:16:39 It's a treatise, man. Atridis. Atridis. My name is Pah. Aul Atridis. Amazing. Anyway, he says, Hey, Stilgar and Baron Harkinen.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Just listen to episode 2622, and I was trying to fly out of Atlanta to SFO this morning, and my flight got canceled because the windshield got cracked. I'm still mid-journey, but overall delayed six hours. Flying kind of sucks right now, says. God, no kidding. Oh, Atlanta, SFO.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's got to be like a four, four and a half hour. Yeah. minimum geez yeah and now your windshield got cracked dude most of the country is a flyover state at that point yeah it's a lot but yeah these delays blow dude i don't oh that totally sucks and delayed six hours that blows to have to wait at the airport i oh man six hours do you go home and come back i think i might if i was there if that's where i lived yes yeah i would i'm not going i'm not hanging out that airport for that long no way yeah i think i would too it's a 45 minute drive back home, so I think I would do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I go home, four hours home. But you got to worry that they're like, oh, we actually got new hardware. Okay, we're taking off in an hour. Oh, yeah, or we switch planes or a new plane came in or something. Exactly. Yeah. I didn't think of that. That's still annoying. You don't want to be in your hometown for six hours in a place you don't want to be. Yeah. No. Gross. They should really put movie, put a movie theater, a multiplex in more airports. Yep. Free tickets for Dune Part 2. Anybody who wants in. And allow you to come in. in mid-movie and then stay until the beginning of the next showing to see what you what you missed that's right oh shout out by the way on the topic of this shout out to um bob or i don't know if bob yam
Starting point is 00:18:24 was there or not but barry sent me a text yesterday and said i'm about to go into our second viewing of dune two and i thought of you i'm like man i haven't even been able to see my second viewing at dune two yet oh i know it's all right you're probably not going to see it the second time in theaters i'll probably try i may try like a i don't know like a i max attempt or something. Oh, yeah, there you go. Before it leaves. But if not, it's fine. I am, I am pining for digital, though, because I'll watch that 50 million times over. Of course. And I've seen the first movie twice since this new one came out. So I've, yeah, wow. And I really believe this. I think I said it the day after
Starting point is 00:19:01 when we talked about it. I really do think the first movie is dramatically enhanced by the second half in so much that really it's a six-hour movie that just needs to be seen like that. It's so I agree. Oh, it's so good. It's like Endgame and Infinity War. You want to see them back to back. Yes, it is a, I think of those movies as a combo and not as two individual movies. Yeah, and they're awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:25 They were awesome on their own when we had to wait a year. It was fine. Yes. It's just, now that they're complete, it's like, you know, you've got to go for the whole shebang. Just do the whole, eat the whole sandwich in one setting. That's right. So good. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Thank you for that. 8014710462. Big thanks going out to Mike Picholich, who sent Brian and I body pillows. Yes. Oh, my God. Body pillows. I didn't know it had a little cover in there, stuffed in there. Yeah, a little, thank God, because it's not, you know, you can't always get a body pillow-sized pillowcase. It's kind of, they're not super, like you've got to find, you got to go your coals and dig deep.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, I don't know where you get one that long, but it's in there, which is nice. And then what's cool, you would, you told me this, but it's very dense. packed it's like a little hard packed little tube yeah it's a little a little compressed dense burrito and you cut that plastic and this thing goes yeah like a throat singer from dune part two um but no it expands out like uh like those snakes you'd got by for fourth of july when you're a kid and put them on the thing it was like that and i was like this is going to be awesome the only complaint it's super comfortable fluffed right up slept great with it used as directed I had one of the better nights
Starting point is 00:20:45 sleeps this week because of it. Yeah, ditto. So thank you for that. The only complaint I have, they don't make these long enough. This isn't a mic problem. Oh, really? My gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's so, I'm too tall for anything anymore. Yeah. And this thing is like about this, just about that much too short. I want it to go from foot, truly body, right? Foot to head.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I have to. So I have to, I don't know. I just like the idea wrapping my legs around it, you know, I'm just getting away. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Now, the only other thing they're missing, no Spice Girl or no Furiosa face. I know. Well, I've been the process of getting some iron on baby spice patches for the front. I'm glad you said that because I was going to ask you which Spice Girl gets pillow treatment. So now we know. I think Sporty is the most talented singer of the Spice Girls. But, you know, if we're playing, if we're playing for Mary Cue. Which we're not.
Starting point is 00:21:43 We're not. We don't play that game. But if we were... Baby Ginger's posh. This is how that game would go. Baby Ginger's the order? Baby Ginger, Posh. I mean, there's only an order...
Starting point is 00:21:55 Oh, I see. Okay, yeah, now I got it in my head. Which one you're going to do the three things, too. Got it. Exactly, yes. Took me a second. I was thinking they were in first, second, and third place, but no, this is a very different game that we're playing. Yeah, I like scary, too.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It might be scary... Oh, man. was there a lost is there a lost is there a lost spice is like a Dave Mustaine spice they kicked out earlier or anybody like that
Starting point is 00:22:20 where they like a like a Pete Best yeah yeah Pete Best spice that's a that's a great example is there anyone like that or no but there was
Starting point is 00:22:31 no because I saw the documentary and they're like it was it was a lock on like three of them at the beginning and then
Starting point is 00:22:41 then the added the other two came on really quickly afterwards it's um it's the runaways that i think uh i always think of that had uh susy quattro as a potential member and then she went off to do her own thing oh that's because she was like four people with that last name you can't have any around get it quatro oh t r p w says uh yes i did it as a quiz question for ryan wait a minute was there uh oh was a secondary spice was there a um i don't think there uh was a lower tier spice a six a six a Sixth Spice. A Dave Mustaine Spice who got drunk all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Fifth Beatle and a sixth spice. Yeah. All right. Who is it now? Oh, Squishy. That's an old joke. They're all Old Spice now. Madonna was a member and they called her Old Spice.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Anyway, did you see that video of Madonna on stage? She's in some tour. It's probably her last one. Yeah, I know. She was like three hours late in Denver coming on stage. Oh, really? Three hours. geez louises my uh aunt barb went and uh we went to trip she's like uh we went to trivia with uncle george who did not go to see madonna and uh we did trivia and then he drove home and texted me afterwards that madonna still has not taken the stage at barb's concert what yeah i feel like maybe you get away with that in 89 you do that now i think you do i think you do that anytime and it's just a
Starting point is 00:24:12 disrespectful to your fans it really is yeah and they all spent like 60 plus bucks or more i'm sure it's more now even i don't know what it is for a madonna concept respect your fans papa don't preach i'm in three hour trouble deep that's right exactly so hold on a second though so when that happens in the concerts and normally at let's say a three hour concert does it just so you're just there for six hours you just sit there and you wait yeah well six hours if it's taylor swift but i don't think taylor swift would do that i don't think t swiffie would do that to her fans but uh gross i imagine madonna puts on an hour and a half maybe two hour show i imagine i should ask barb like how long the actual show was the video i saw she was yelling
Starting point is 00:24:52 at a fan who wouldn't stand up and it turned out to be a guy in a wheelchair it was very embarrassing oh no madonna did that yeah she called him out during one of these interstitials where you're just talking on a mic and yes hey detroit whatever and then she sees somebody it's like you never stand up over there what's your problem or something called him out and this was like uh we want to look down here and see how I'm how I'm currently sitting and she was like really fumbling she didn't know what to say yeah but uh three hours f that that makes me mad I would do that that sucks no wonder if I was Sean Penn I would have left too anyway yep yep uh what else oh these pillows are great so thanks Mike but that's the whole point the pillows the pillows the pillows are great
Starting point is 00:25:34 thank you Mike P yeah thank you Mike and thank you for you're always you're always on the Johnny on the spot as far as like, oh, they talked about something. Could help them? I'll send them this. Yep. I slept so much better last night. I did too. It's weird how that word.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, that shouldn't be the thing. It's the only problem, and it's not really a problem, but it's heavy enough that I, like, I'll wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning and realize, why, I've been on this side the whole night. And then it's like, I want to go on my other side. So I have to grab the pillow under a heavy duvet and like, it's a lot. It's a lot. And keep the covers over and that sort of thing. Yeah, totally can use of the CPAP. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Now, oh, I can't, I thought I had a clip for this. I don't. Brian's going to give us a spoiler-free review of a movie. Brian, what is it? That's right. A movie was late night with the devil sought last night. This is the Desmalshian horror movie. Is there some connection?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Like, isn't one of the directors or the producer did? barbarian there's some barbarian connection oh uh maybe it's the same production company you're right though i've heard that same thing and i don't know what the connection is though but it's late so this is a uh horror movie that takes place in the 70s uh on halloween night uh this host of a talk show this like johnny carson competitor um uh has all these guests on one of one of the guests is a uh an exercise or really a paranormal psychologist who has a
Starting point is 00:27:14 or a parapsychologist who brings on a subject. Her subject is this little girl who is possessed by a demon called Mr. Riggles. Mr. Riggles. Fantastic. And
Starting point is 00:27:26 hilarity ensues. No, you know, here's the thing. For me, immediately, like, I went in this thing and I was already like, all right, I'm already a little freaked out. Movie isn't even starter. It's just getting started.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And it's like the 70s aspect of this for me adds such a freaking heavy layer of creepiness to it. And I think it's because the Exorcist, the Amityville Harb, but all those movies that I saw in the 70s that were really scary to me at the time really freaked me out to that decade. So even when I watched something as cheesy as the hunting of Hill or whatever, that 70s one that we watched for, film sack hill oh the hunting hill or the hill on the haunted hill oh house on hunted hill yeah hill on hunted hill there's so that's just a word jungle in a house just spin those words around and hopefully they all line up that's that word exactly uh that seems something like that already kind of fills me with the 70s dread that kind of freaks me out this this actually scared me more than a scared teen of this movie which is kind of funny oh that isn't it's a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:28:37 flip around there, right? Very much a flip around. I already have issues with possession movies like the Emily Rose thing or the the doll one that we watched Megan. Not Megan, the
Starting point is 00:28:53 oh, why am I blanking on the name? It's a series and it's got those two the husband and wife who go around and Annabelle, the Annabelle. series right yes right right those kind of freaked me out a little bit already so human human possession freaks me out dull possession childs play folks that don't freak me out no that thing's
Starting point is 00:29:18 stupid human possession kind of freaks me out anyway um uh so this thing i really really liked it it was really good very suspenseful um really good acting in it and and really the only person i recognized in this thing was uh david des melchian um i don't i don't i don't probably have seen Laura Gordon and Ian Bliss and Fazal Bazee and other things but this was the this for me it was just
Starting point is 00:29:48 David Desmalshian was the only person I recognized in here and maybe that also kind of freaked me out because it it didn't take me out of the film whenever somebody like oh there's George Clooney wearing a mask or whatever right he's also he's creepy he's just creepy like
Starting point is 00:30:03 yeah like we've talked about before he's probably the nicest guy in the planet seems like the nicest dude ever, super creative, cool dude. But every time he's in anything, whether it was Dune Part 1 or he was in the 2049 or any of these movies, his character shows up and I go, he shows up and I go, shit. Yeah, there's the port, I mean, exactly. I'd feel bad for the guy because, you know, he's, like you said, probably the nicest guy on earth, but he's got this look that kind of instills that thing for you.
Starting point is 00:30:32 When you get a chance, and I'll send you a link to this later, watch the music video for, puddles pity parties cover of animosions obsession oh my gosh okay because that features uh dasmalshian in a uh as in a role in the video that that will that's perfect confound you it'll absolutely confound that seems perfect to me that he's in that it kind of does uh who's this young uh possessed actress girl she's she looks familiar i guess i don't know any of these movies ingrid torrelly yeah she doesn't even have a wikipedia page she's so new and she She's, she is phenomenal as this possessed, uh, girl. Like she, she's got a career coming.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I can just tell. She does. Yeah. Plus, you know what Hollywood likes right now? Girls with giant eyes. They're into it. Big anime eyes. Yeah, big anime eyes.
Starting point is 00:31:26 It's in, uh, yeah, it's your, your Sydney Sweeney's and your, um, uh, your new furious and, and, uh, and your Taylor Joy on you, on you, rather. They're all, look, they're all, look, they're all. just got the same eyes. I'm telling you, we're on a trend. And it's fine. They're lovely people. This is not me judging. I think that's just a thing Hollywood's giving us right now. It's just what it is. But anyway, and she's good. Yeah. So, you know, the, um, it's good. It's incredible reviews right now, 96% or 98% on, uh, on, uh, rotten tomatoes right now. Um, it's very good. And it's a bummer that, you know, the attention, all the headlines are more about the AI.
Starting point is 00:32:06 generated title cards, which again, I agree is kind of a valid issue. But I feel like that's, that almost is between the artists who worked on the film and the director, whoever it is that made the choice to use that, that's for them to to discuss and argue about
Starting point is 00:32:25 or fight about if the artists who worked on the film, the film has an incredible artistic style because of the 70s aspect. But they nailed it every single thing about the freaking Mike Doug Douglas show or Diana Shore, all that kind of feel of that, you know, that weird burnt orange carpeting and chairs and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, that look is both authentic and exaggerated when I see screens. Yeah. And that's hard to do. Like, I look at his backgrounds and I see his huge wide tie and that ugly brown, like that Atari kind of color combo. Yes, the, like the stripes that go up the walls and stuff. Like, they really, really nail it. I can't wait to see this.
Starting point is 00:33:10 This is so at my eye. It is worth saying. And the audience got freaked out about it. Like it was invisibly freaked out the audience, too, including the woman behind me, who was quiet most of the time. But, you know, a few reactions and things, which I'm fine with the, and oh, my God, and stuff like that. And, huh, that, all right, could maybe have dealt with out a little bit of that one, like, there was something that she had to think. about? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But at one point, because she had a milkshake, because this is the Alamo Draft House, she decided to make sure she got every last drop out of the bottom of that milkshake glass with her straw. At the quietest damn moment of the movie, it's like, oh my gosh, that would have drove me crazy to hear that. I'm like, all right, you're not talking, which I appreciate, but what the hell? She got the, she got the Paul Dano milkshake. you will drink this milkshake at the worst possible time
Starting point is 00:34:08 as the instructions To answer Free Rangers question in the chat It is 80% 90% creepy and unsettling and a little bit gory But not not The shining level of gore I would say more on the Oh that's interesting
Starting point is 00:34:27 Because I would give shining Pretty shining's not that gory to me So if it's under that There's the entire elevator opening up and all the blood gushing out of it, which I guess is, it's, that's not really gore as much as it's just visually. Just really unsettling. Bloody. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's not Friday the 13th level of gory. That's probably the better. Yeah, there you go. It's not a slasher movie. That makes sense. Yeah. I can't wait. I really, yeah, this is right up my alley.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And every year for the last three years, there have been some amazing singular horror movie that just like rocks, whether it was barbarian, couple years ago. What was that other one last year? Smile. Oh, smile was so good. They're making a smile. They're making a smile too, I heard. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. It's not called smiles. I kind of wish it was. Smiles is a great idea. Smile's awesome. Oh, that movie. I need to see smile. It's under your skin and stays there.
Starting point is 00:35:29 All right. Well, there you go. Late Night with the Devil. No spoilers. Go see it. Devil. Yeah. Available now in theaters.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Let's do some quick news. Time for the news brought to you by. A group spends nine hours returning some jewelry. What movie is that? Is it some jewelry or is it just one ring that's giving return? You are correct. And so that actually made me question something about that. When you say some jewelry and when they say it, I guess a single ring could
Starting point is 00:36:02 count as some it does it like is that the because it still sounds plural right so if you get a necklace for for christmas do you say oh yeah no my mom got me some jewelry that would fit like you see you can say some jewelry so yeah that's true and when you say that ring and other kinds of i'd more take issue with the nine hours because we spent nine hours nine hours watching her group returned some jewelry as opposed to them spending way longer than nine hours Yeah, that part's a little screwy there. This one was a questionable one, but I went with it. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:36:39 They're fun, though. All right. Newly discovered Australian beetle almost got mistaken for bird poo. Careful out there, you guys. Careful. Oh, no. Scientists beware. Let's step on it either way.
Starting point is 00:36:49 No, either way, you're in trouble. Queensland researcher spotted the fluffy specimen by chance while camping and initially mistook it for a bird poo. It's very unique, he says. There are not many insects out there that have. that trait. The bird poo trait. Since James Tweed, he told the BBC, James Tweed, what a great name. The National Science Agency, or the
Starting point is 00:37:14 CSIRO, has since confirmed it's an entirely new kind of longhorn beetle when Mr. Tweed first spotted the tiny white object on the leaf in the Gold Coast, Hinderland. In December of 2021, he didn't think much of it, but after an entomologist did a double take, or he is an entomologist did a double take, he realized it was in fact an insect unlike any had seen before. A lot of their hair stand basically straight
Starting point is 00:37:39 upright, and so it gives it a bit of a mohawk type look, says Mr. Tweed. Here's a picture. I was hoping this thing would be like it's a white beetle that has a little black center. Yeah, that's what you're right? Yeah, like a poo, like a bird poo. Like a bird poo, like what you think of when you think of a bird poo.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, that's it, Chad, look at him. That's your... That's, uh, boy, that is not something I would say bird poo. I'd say, oh, no, who pulled off that weird tarantula's extra two legs? Yeah, because look at a big, long, dangly bit. Those hairs on it. Little like it. It's like a moldy tarantula.
Starting point is 00:38:16 How'd you like to find that in your grilled cheese? I would not, my friend. No, I wouldn't either. What's funny is I like that this photo also includes the poo that it makes. I didn't even notice that. You're right. I assume that's what that is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I think so. Yeah, those don't look like smaller bugs. Those look like it's poo. It says it's only a centimeter long. So I'm trying to get some scale here. So 10 millimeters. Yeah. Pretty small.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. About like that. Exactly. Well, don't inhale, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what you do with these. Let's move on to this story. Definitely check your grilled cheese.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, always check your grilled cheese. That's just a good way of thinking. A boy, age of little. 11 arrested after being stopped by police driving a BMW towering, sorry, towing caravan on M1. It's a terrible headline, but I'll explain. Yeah. Well, it's British. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Oh, no, I guess it's Canadian. It's Canadian, yeah. 11-year-old boy was found by police behind the wheel of a BMW who's towing a suspected stolen caravan on the M1. That's a highway there. North Yorkshire police. Is this Britain? All right. So it came from Canadian Yahoo, but that's North.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yorkshire would tell me, would say UK to me. They still love the queen up there. And the term caravan, I mean, that's, you know, you're pulling a motorhome behind a deal. Yeah, when you say caravan, I think they mean like a camper type thing, right? Yeah, that's what they mean, yeah. Yeah, I assume so. It's not like a
Starting point is 00:39:46 15 cars. And the M1 is definitely in the UK. Yeah, yeah, that's totally what this is. So this is what it is. Canadian news, but reporting on the UK. They still bend the need of the queen, or now the king, sorry. So I get it. Anyway, they found this kid. It was around 3.30 p.m. on a Thursday.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And let's see. The officer said they were able to track the BMW, which is now allegedly using cloned registration plates traveling down the A1. I like the names of freeway. We should change ours. Like I-15, that's boring. I want like M-1, A-1.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I think I like the way our highways are named because you instantly know, you have an idea when you hear the highway, whether it's a north-south highway and whereabouts in the country it is because it's you know it starts on the east coast and moves west for higher numbers and starts south and moves north yes is that how it works i didn't know that yeah yeah so like you know uh uh the i-30 is further south than i-70 which you know bisects Denver so the i-9 and odd numbers are your north-south highways, even numbers for your east-west highways. Oh, that isn't bad. Okay, maybe we're good at it. And then spurs off of them. So, no, I'm sorry, it goes west-east because it's the five, but then you've got the
Starting point is 00:41:11 105, the 405, the other things that spur off of the five. I'll tell you what we suck at. Multiple states with Martin Luther King Jr. drives and roads and things. Like, you can't have four of those in the same city. You're throwing people off. I go down to Mississippi. It's like, where do you need to go? go up Martin Luther King Boulevard, then turn left on Martin Luther King's circle,
Starting point is 00:41:31 and then make sure you're on MLK. Okay, Main Street. Okay, Broadway. I like Maine and State. Those make sense. But if you get, it's all Martin Luther King, and they're not a grid, what are we doing to ourselves? Racist. At least here in Utah.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I have an announcement to make. Of course, I'm kidding. Of course, of course. But here, like, in Utah, we're gridded. It's actually really smart the way we gritted it all out, and it's simple. Oh, yeah. Just like go to. Oh, you've got the weirdest numbering system there, though.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It seems weird, but once you see, if you look at an overhead view of it, and you go, oh, okay, 104th is 104 streets south. Yeah. Like we have numbered streets as well to do that. But yours seem to go into like the 10,000s, and that's too much number to remember. It's a lot. Like, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, he's at the corner of 6.3 million 272,000 and, you know. Well, we do them on.
Starting point is 00:42:27 evens so it's like you're not evens but they're never like multiple so it's like 114th is 104 it's 4 or 100 140 wait is that 1400 oh oh really is you to understand well you only but all you ever have to say is 90th oh I'll meet you on 90th and state or I'll meet you on uh 9th and 9th or you even know 9th and 9th is actually 900 900 I do like that I like the numbering system because when I look at an address if it's on a numbered streets like, oh, I know exactly where that is. Here, you've got to remember, oh, okay, well, no, we've got our range of streets, our north-south streets that are president last names.
Starting point is 00:43:07 We got our north-south streets that are names of Native American tribes. We've got, you know, our, and it's so hard to remember the clusters of those. Yeah, it could be tricky. That I do like. I wonder if Lyft and Uber drivers like what they prefer, you know. Once you get used to an area, you probably don't. care because it's just you used to an area. I would, seriously, I would prefer
Starting point is 00:43:31 the numbering system both north and south and east and west, but that, does that not get confusing? Do you have, do you have your, what is it, avenues or or east-west? Oh no, it's really by the size, by the size of the street, whether it's
Starting point is 00:43:49 a boulevard at a street and avenue. So we have everything that's north, so we have these dividers where everything west of, state street i believe yeah everything west of state is like ninth west fifth west so we put a little west on there if it's east of that street it's 30th east fifth east 10th east whatever it's so it's it's that that's your divider okay and then when you get to north we have a similar divider so we have like north temple and then after that you have all these different something something north something
Starting point is 00:44:25 northeast whatever so it's a lot so it's all based on like north south east west and it's all state street is like the divider so if you're on state you and you go east now you're on a hundred east second two hundred east three hundred east or second east 30s fourth east like that it's just so it's just numbers out to the mountains that way and then west numbers out to the mountains that way they're not negative numbers they're just w and any on there every time we do and we have a lot we have that north like you start north of so our our center point of the city as far as streets go is broadway and ellsworth that is zero zero right and um you do anything cool there they have like a little like a statue or anything cool or you know no nothing i know if they have a well
Starting point is 00:45:11 it's about a block away they have a voodoo donuts oh all right which if you look at a donut it looks like a zero zero yeah it's perfect that's definitely not intentional i love that uh you go north from there and you've got first street, second street all the way up to whatever, 196th street or whatever. So that's great. But then you go south from there and it's street names. It's, you know, your Ellsworth and Bellevue and Arapahoe and stuff like that, which you have to remember. At least with the names of the streets, we do them alphabetical order. So, you know, it's like, okay, well, if this is Stuart, next is Tennis and Utica Vrain. And you know your alphabet in the famous people's last name section
Starting point is 00:45:53 or the Native American section or the presidential section. Yeah. Well, and we, I guess we have names too, but even when we have names, it also has the little numbers in there. So it'll say, if the street's like, oh, really? A wonder bar road
Starting point is 00:46:09 or whatever. I can't think of one. But let's say that's the name of it. They'll also be like a little 104th South on there. Okay. All right. So it's pretty pretty simple. Yeah, we get the numbers. We just get a thousand listing underneath it that says, you know, Sheridan, North-South, big, big bisecting, or one of our major roads is 5,000.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Right. Wadsworth is 6,400. Oh, I get it. So if you know those and you get an east-west number, then you know, oh, okay, that's going to be between federal and Wadsworth. It's so funny how every state's got their own little nomenclature for this stuff. It really, yeah, it really is. And in the South, y'all are effed in every state I've been in the South. They're so screwed up.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's where you find all those of Martin Luther King drive. We have a Martin Luther King Boulevard as well, and that's, yeah. We have one, too, but it's, like I say, it's an easy one to convert to numbers, right? I want to say that Martin Luther King Boulevard here would be 23rd Street, 23rd Avenue North. I think that replaced our 23rd street. There you go. We have an area called the avenues. That's kind of confusing.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Oh, no, really? Yeah. that's weird that is really weird it is weird it's just like north salt lake area that's really cool and welcome to Wendy used to live in the avenues parkway road I think that's where yeah Wendy was in the avenues for a long time I may have to bring it up with her which we're going to do in a minute we're going to take a break when we come back we'll we'll get this kit out of the BMW and drive properly with a real license and then we'll bring Wendy in and talk about some therapy Thursday today that's all coming up after this song selection from Brian of its vast library.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah, this is a band that we've played before on Indy in the Middle, and a lot of people remark how much they liked it, harder-edged stuff, and of course, I don't know, we all like that kind of thing. They've got a brand-new album coming out June 20th. The band is called The Intemperate Sons, that album, their current album, let's see. Okay, how would you translate this? Control 8th, the name of the song, the newest track from the Intemperate Sons LP, dark days night oh gotcha the song is available on all major platforms the album is set to release on june
Starting point is 00:48:26 20th holy cow you got some time to wait yeah three whole months to wait for this one um control eight is the name of the song the intemperate sons is the name of the band that's all you need to know go check this out all right here you go we'll be right back Your daily dose of ill at ease Desperate cries for a sign Craven connection and lonely as hell A precious life on the line Why won't it work?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Why is it hard? What are you all about? Intention unfolding through choices you make Data in and garbage out What do you need? What do you really need? You lie, exploit, confused, you manipulate, you blame and mock, you shame, you humiliate, If you punch and stop, you eviscerate your cheat, just see, betray you adultery
Starting point is 00:50:07 To take what you'll never receive Just transform a never achieve What do we need? What do we really need? We threaten oppressing glare, we intimidate, ignore, criticize, deny, and validate We own, we plan, destroy, we retaliate, we drink, we drug, we numb, we degenerate, But we have all the answers inside To what wages we can't even write
Starting point is 00:51:20 What do you need need? What do you really need? Order, preach, judge, pontificate, pressure, silence, set chains, we suffocate. Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking. All right, that's enough. And we're back. Who is that again? Yeah, those are the intemperate sons and a song called Control 8 from their upcoming album. Like I say, due June 20th.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Nice. Get your three-month clock on, everybody. That's right. We're going to call my sister Wendy and tell you. how you pronounce it. It's the proper pronunciation of Wendy. But that's happening right now. Wendy. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. There she is, our favorite Minnesota tradition, Wendy Dunford. Hi, Wendy. Welcome back to the show. I heard you got snow this week. Congratulations. I did. All you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Did you got a weirdo. People are like not happy. I am so happy about it. Oh, they're not happy that you got snow?
Starting point is 00:53:20 I thought it was a built-in knee-jerk response to snow in March. You're like, no. But people are like, ugh. And I'm like, me and every kid on the block are, we're so happy. Yeah. Are you out there making, you making snowmen? You do any fun snow things? Do you like to make a snowman when it gets?
Starting point is 00:53:37 We did this thing. And this is this is what I love about where I live is that I have some very old neighbors to the right and then some just retired neighbors to the left and the family with young, young kids across the street and a couple up the street. And whenever stuff like this happens, like the power just went out for a minute this morning. We're all like, what happened? We're like a super block.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Anyway, everyone just came out with their snowblowers and shovels and kids because they had, we had a snow day, which we shouldn't have. It was not that bad. But it was definitely like magic. So it was fun. Anyway, we talked about this. Did we ever talk about this? I never had a snow day in school, not one.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And my kids. had them. I think you had them. I definitely had one. I don't Nisha had them. We had more snow in 1993 than like ever. Yeah. And I was, you know, out of it then. So prior to that, the 80s when I was in high school, uh, nothing. I mean, we had snow, but we never had a snow day. It pissed me off. Never had that experience. I'm so sorry. I know. That's a child. It feels like a kid's prerogative. Dream. So much cartoon. Should have one. Just one snow day is all I asked. I never had a damn. Should we do it for him now? Everybody? Let's make it snow. Scott gets to stay home.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Get a snow day. Stay home and do exactly what he does now. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. Now, see, that's no fun now because now I'm here. It's like,
Starting point is 00:54:59 what am I staying away from? Every day's a snow day. Yeah, that's lame. Well, anyway, it's good to have you back. And it's my sister,
Starting point is 00:55:06 Wendy. She is a real therapist. Comes on Thursdays and helps people with their problems. And we're going to do that again today. Wendy, 31 days until Las Vegas. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm excited to see you there. You and Misha. It'll be fun. you know having sisters around that's never a never a bad thing never a bad thing no uh so i'm looking forward to that uh we are going to just dive right in you found us uh an email this time uh we were a little short on them and by the way folks time for if you're if you're if you're if you're going through some stuff if you're got questions you want to be anonymous that's totally cool too because we don't you know we definitely don't say your names even if you don't ask us not to say your names we
Starting point is 00:55:44 won't use your names so don't feel nervous about doing this uh the morning stream at gmail.com is the place to send your questions for Wendy. Let's do this one. We'll just dive right in. Anything you want to say before I read it or are we good? No, yeah. All right, here we go. Hi, Wendy and the boys.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Hey, Brian, that's us. We're the boys. That's right. I've recently realized that my relationships always seem to follow a destructive pattern. I end up with partners who mirror the toxic behaviors of my parents. You. Despite my best efforts to avoid anything that seems like my parents dynamic, I work to break free from this cycle.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I find myself repeating the same mistakes and attracting the same type of people. How can I untangle the emotional baggage from my past and create healthier relationship dynamics? I'm tired of feeling stuck and want to break free from this pattern once and for all. Your insights on how to navigate this tangled web would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. This is a sign seeking liberation from toxic relationship patterns. And there is a PS for context. I am a 37-year-old cis-hete male heterosexual.
Starting point is 00:56:45 my parents are still married but shouldn't be oh man that's hardcore whole extra topic yeah that may be a different day anyway i keep finding women like my mom who sulk i almost read suck uh are passive aggressive and retreat and end up being angry and even at times yelling like my dad help all right you hear about this all the time people end up with the people they were raised by kind of in a weird way and uh this sounds like like one of those deals. I used to kind of discount this. Um, because in my head, I was like, well, no, you're getting away from toxicity. Why would you invite more of that? But there must be something here. Oh, there is something there. So really quick, I'm going to ask the two of you,
Starting point is 00:57:30 uh, did you marry your mother or your father? Did we what now? Oh, do we marry our mother or fathers? Hmm. Yeah. I don't think, I think I married my dad if I'm, if I'm, you know, his, his, it's such a weird thing to say out of context I married my dad I think it's my father because Kim is Kim is way more his traits than my mom
Starting point is 00:57:57 and it's no shame my mom she drives you around she does all that yeah exactly yeah I mean a reminder Kim doesn't doesn't like my driving that's just a quick reminder
Starting point is 00:58:10 she hates how I drive I don't know why you'll fall asleep well that's true Long distances are real trouble. I would hate that too. Yeah. But she doesn't like it even when I do short stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:19 She thinks I tailgate. She thinks I do all kinds of things I don't do. But I definitely think I married more her personality. Brian, who are you closer? I think I married, yeah, more. Tina's so different from both my mom and my dad that I, it's a really hard question. But I married a caregiver, like, you know, someone who, who's very, giving of herself, which is a trade of my mom's.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Actually, it's this trade of both my mom and my dad. It's really hard to, yeah, I don't know. I think my mom's listening, so I really don't want to say much more. My mom. I marry my mom in all the good ways. Yeah. That's right. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 So good way to be diplomatic. Where'd you get that from? No, my pleasure. Yes, I get that from my dad. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, crap. No, she's going to get mad to me for that now.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, you can't win. I'll interrupt you so you can stop burying yourself. Okay. And here's what the reason I'm even starting with that question and, you know, this email is alluding to this idea of like, I don't want to be in my parents' relationship. And here I keep having relationships. I wish they put how many of these have happened. But it sounds like enough that you're mad about it and you wrote in and you're 37.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So you've been through a few. And the fact that there's. such a theme with how they end up. And he's seeing that he acts like his dad in these relationships. And then the woman in the relationship acts more like his mom. Right. So you can say a couple things are potentially happening. There's just some modeling that this is how relationships work. This is what feels comfortable. This is what I've seen. And you're like, well, why would I recreate that? That's not like a conscious choice. And so when I ask you, who did you Mary. Most people really haven't thought about this and are probably pretty wrong about it.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And some of them are real grossed out to even have that conversation. And it's like, what? You know? And it's easier when you're observing a relationship to say, oh, you can see that. Or, you know, but really, I want to talk a little bit just about roles. Like what role you sort of fall into. And of course, you're genetically related to your parents usually. In an adoption cases it's it's interesting because then you can maybe see a little more of the uh what habits or what the modeling is that you picked up like i remember once mom saying oh misha's just like me she something as if it was genetic and i was like well that's not genetic um but that is modeled right right anyway so uh so so then here's how this is helpful to to think about or like a way
Starting point is 01:01:10 to process this when you're actually looking at your own relationships is, well, what is it that is triggering you, right? And is it really this person? Now, you keep finding someone to give you the same trigger. And that's always our big clue. Like if we, you know, put this on a bulletboard and plot it all out, what is the thing that it keeps coming back to? So I'm going to make some guesses here for this person. I don't know. But, that dad was probably feeling cut out or abandoned or still is because apparently they're still together. And the yelling and the anger is just the effort to be heard, to be seen, to matter.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Not getting needs met often results in yelling or being angry if that's your sort of type or, you know, strategy. And then for whatever reason, mom is being passive aggressive, retreating, sulking. She also has needs that are not being met. And that dance is what they do. So you watch that dance for a long time. And then you meet someone and you're like, they're different. There are all the things I need.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And really what you find out is that your original unmet needs or your original wounds or your original wounds or your original sort of stuff comes from your interaction with your parents and not even just that they showed you how they interacted, but also maybe your own. So I'm going to make a guess that mom does not only behave this way with her partner. There might also be just this is the strategy she uses to handle all relationships, including raising a kid, you know. So for example, I mean, we don't have any specific ones. But if I had this person in front of me, I would say something like, tell me about a time that you felt like mom was passive aggressive with you or, you know, she would do the same
Starting point is 01:03:13 kind of sulking thing, you know, and then find out, oh, that was all the time. Like, I never knew which way was up if I was in trouble or not. You know, you could find, you'd find where all sorts of guessing was happening and all sorts of I'm in trouble. I don't have power to fix this or, and really, if we go even one level deeper, maybe being abandoned, right? I'm not actually, I'm the kid here. And I'm not getting what I need. So we start with, let's say that. I'm making that whole thing up, but I would bet some decent money that that's probably fairly accurate. 60 bucks, 60 bucks, 50 bucks. 60 for a Bible. Okay. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:58 So then I would take, you know, we'd start with that and then work with that actual pain. And this is where most of us, especially if you're like writing in, you're just like, let me fix this. You want the quick answer of like, well, set a boundary and then don't do this. And then next time you are dating someone, ask them, are they passive aggressive and sulky? You know, those would be really surface easy ways of sort of thinking you're solving the problem. but often these problems are stemming from an unmet need earlier in development that then I just keep replaying, keep finding someone else to try to fix it with.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And so that is not an uncommon pattern. And so when you're old enough, you're now 37, you've had a bunch of these relationships and in the similar ways. You can see it. Like this is really an insightful email. This is somebody who's already gotten half the battle, right? and wants to be liberated from doing this again. They didn't mention if they've done any therapy or not before,
Starting point is 01:05:04 but just really figuring out how, like if your first words here, my parents are still married, but they shouldn't be. You've got feelings that maybe are, maybe need some exploration. And I know it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:21 cliche that you go and talked about your parents in therapy, but there is a reason that keeps happening or it needs to happen often is sometimes there's origins to some of this there that you can work through and get insight in and heal from that make all the other things so much easier. You're not acting out of that same spot. That's why sometimes you'll see in families, you'll see like a kid gets along with one of the parents better than the other parent.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And often they're too similar to one parent. and they, they, they, they're sort of more yin and yang with the other parent, just like the couple is. So couples are often very yin and yang. I would actually love, if anyone, this would be a great email. Someone could write in and tell me how you're exactly like your spouse. I'd love to hear this. I know, yeah. And how well that works, right?
Starting point is 01:06:11 Because it feels like, it feels like, that'd be, that'd be difficult because your partner doesn't fill in all the gaps that you lack, you know? Like, yes. I feel like all those people are divorced. now or something. It was what I would think. I was too much like my wife. Yeah. I realize that's kind of a blanket thing to say, but I don't think I know anybody who's got a flourishing marriage who are exactly alike each other. I just don't see it. It's like you don't see 9,000 pound 70 year olds for a reason. I realize that's a weird comparison, but you just don't see it. It's a it's a mirage. there's no such thing as far as I know, but I could be dead wrong on that.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Maybe there are plenty of couples where they're identical to each other and they and they flourish. I just don't know who that is. Well, and usually what you do see is that they're different, when couples are doing really well, their differences are pretty balancing. They've figured out how to navigate them and not let that pull them apart. The couples that are struggling more, A, they haven't identified any of this usually. They just don't know why they feel so crappy or this or that, right? And so when they can kind of have language for it.
Starting point is 01:07:22 and parse it apart and be able to communicate about it and realize, oh, your ability to be fun and spontaneous, I've always been drawn to because I am very by the books and I have an sell spreadsheet for everything. And our conflict is coming because those two things are going to rub each other wrong throughout a lifetime together. However, the bills will get paid and we'll still do a fun vacation because the two of us bring that energy together. But, navigating it, you know, it's tricky. And you can look at your workplaces. You can work at extended family. You could look at any group of people that you're around and see some of these same dynamics. And they can go all away from just sort of like surface. It's not that big a deal
Starting point is 01:08:10 to really deeply divided. We do this so differently. And it means chaos. So one thing, one specific case that pops in my head is one partner has neurodivergence or is, ADHD or maybe high functioning autism or something that there's just a really different brain going on, those can be the trickiest ones because it's not just a, oh, we're different. Ha, ha, let's hug it out. It's, I need to fundamentally understand that the partner I'm with cannot, is not capable of doing this thing I'm demanding of them. So often where that the deep conflict comes is, if you love.
Starting point is 01:08:52 me you'll change and be this other person or um if you really cared about this relationship you would pick up those socks and that other person is like i don't know there's socks there i don't see those socks and now i just get in trouble and i'm in a shame spiral and it gets all convoluted so really working specifically with how each other is and our own families of origin you know it's a miracle any of us make this work to be honest yeah it's crazy how much how much does proximity play a role in this and by let me try to explain it so these these parents that have this toxic relationship and doesn't seem to change that pattern and he's worried this pattern is you know part of him now yeah don't those do those patterns always emerge from just the regularity of you're just with this
Starting point is 01:09:40 person every day it's it's routine and the routine because the routine gets so rarely broken you just don't you don't even know that you've carved these ruts that you walk in you know what I'm trying to say like it just feels like it's all based on you don't recognize it anymore yeah you don't even see it you don't even know that you did it and and then how do you do that how do you stop and go oh my gosh look at the look at the rut we've carved crap we got to climb out of this before we can't climb out of it you know like i know 90 year olds i'm not saying names who have been in their same rut they've been walking in their same rut for you know the hundred years almost yeah and they don't know they're now the rut is the world they're in they're so down in there they can't climb out of
Starting point is 01:10:22 that rut. So I guess I don't know. I don't know if any of that makes sense. That's a great question. And it's the reality of it's just so much easier to change direction or do different things when those ruts aren't very deep. But again, like you don't get to, I say again, but you don't get to change anyone for them. Right. So this guy can look at his parents and identify. And that's the thing. He can see it there. And that's the power of perspective. I can step back and see, oh, my parents are in this rut. They're never leaving each other because of five different reasons, but they're going to destroy each other the whole process through till they're dead. And I had a friend to use this quote, and I think it's really
Starting point is 01:11:07 helpful framing. And she says, every marriage is a foreign country. And until you get invited in and learn the language and spend a heck of a lot of time there, you don't belong in someone else's marriage. And it is, it's whatever you're seeing on the outside is not what it actually is. There's way more to it, right? So we can all think Italy looks lovely, but you're, you're not in the culture. You don't understand it until you really, really get in there. And people have to be paid to do that. That is a couples counselor, and it is one of the hardest jobs in the world, because you are, you're in a foreign country trying to negotiate peace. It's really tricky. And that is because it's ingrained and the longer someone's together or the longer people are doing their same patterns, the deeper those ruts go.
Starting point is 01:11:57 So here is this someone who's like, hey, I can see this and I don't want that. And now I'm seeing in my own behavior and my own relationships. And this is maybe me guessing here, but there's a little bit of like projecting on the woman that they're the bad guy more than he's the bad guy. And so some of it might be lack of personal insight. I was going to ask about that too. Yeah, I was going to ask about that because it does seem, I mean, it's impossible to know outside of an email, like all the details and everything. But it seems like he's seeing it that. He is definitely seeing it that way.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I don't want to fault him for that because I understand why he would see it that way. Right. But it's entirely possible that and likely that he is at least a part of that, if not. a bigger way. And that's, you know, him questioning this is a good step in that direction to acknowledge that or to find that. But, you know. And I would also argue like if you're blaming your mom and identify with your dad, then you're blaming these women and identifying with you're not the bad guy. You want to have somebody help check you on that and figure out what else is going on. You're probably responding to legitimate things. But then the cycle creates
Starting point is 01:13:18 itself in such a way to keep you from really going there because again and maybe I feel like I'm saying again because I've referenced this one million times and I say it every day in my practice is so much that's going on within us is protective so he is this pattern is protective in some weird way managing it these certain feelings it's protective but it has a price the consequence for that protected all that protection ultimately doesn't lead to the things that you want. And that's how we know, right? How do we know things are going well or not going well? Well, because we feel it and we know it. And then we start to look back and go, well, I want to do this differently, especially if it
Starting point is 01:14:02 keeps repeating itself. So what is my, what are my defense mechanisms getting me? What is my all this, all my response? Or even I'm attracted to this woman and I'm like, she's different. And then you could line up your buddies and they'd be like, no, no, same girl, just different name. You know, like, they can see it. You can't. And so the idea is to get more space, more insight, have somebody help guide you. Because it's just hard to do it ourselves. It's just, it really is.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Close to it. Yeah. Yeah. And like people will say, oh, you look, Pete just looks like you. And I'm like, yeah, I guess. And then, no lie, there was a picture. I went to go visit Mark. Scott, did you know that?
Starting point is 01:14:44 No, when did you go? Yeah, it was really fun. We went for spring break. Oh, I didn't know. And it was great. We had a great time. And it was just a couple of days. And we took a big family picture.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Mom saw it and with all the Mark's family and thought, first of all, Pete's 12. I am not. Thought Pete was me. Whoa. Hold on. And I was like, first of all, I get it. You're not seeing very well. However, I was like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And then I pulled up the picture. And I was like, oh, yeah, that could have been me at 12. Oh, yeah. He's got long hair too, which I was. helps to have all that hair. And you're not good at it yourself. Someone else can see it, but you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Here's the real test. Can Pete unlock your phone by looking at it? Oh. We've never tried that. You should try it. Give it a shot. See what happens. The phone would be like, you're too young.
Starting point is 01:15:36 How did you take 40 years off your life? This is insane. That's interesting. The last time, you know, all you had to say was picture in Phoenix with Mark. And all I thought about was those, that photo of you in high school with all the the um i wish it was high school the cactus all over you remember the cactus accident do you remember that cactus thing that was interesting um anyone from arizona listening you'll know what words about to come out of my mouth but i fell face first
Starting point is 01:16:02 body first into a jumping choa yeah it was really bad we'd been in phoenix for like five minutes and i went to catch a football it was going to be a glorious touchdown and i landed right on a cactus um face first and and they they jump um when there's heat so they'll get on animals and anything that passes they'll jump from the bush onto you and they oh my god spike every spike has a fish hook yeah they're all they're all what do you call that there's a word for that they're terrible it's awful terrible but here's the thing and so of course we go there and mark tells the story and we spent the my kids spent the rest of the time trying to find
Starting point is 01:16:43 a jumping joy which we we didn't find because people don't have them around as often as you would think because they're awful anyway but it was it was quite the story and and it took what six hours for him to just with pliers pulled them
Starting point is 01:16:59 all out of me. Oh my God. Yeah that was gnarly. We still have photos of this and Wendy just looks like the most miserable human ever getting these pulled out of her. I remember just swallowing. I was, I was stuck on the thing and I was like, what is this? And I remember it didn't hurt initially. And I swallowed and it jumped from the bush to my neck. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that seems like a plant that just needs to get eradicated. I don't know what
Starting point is 01:17:28 they do for the ecosystem, but that might be a section of the food chain that we don't need. This was in his front yard too. Yeah. He willingly grew it? I think it was already there. So, Scott, tell me this. Do you remember how you responded when I landed on this cactus? I remember being terrified. Or I remember being, well, I wasn't there. So I wasn't physically there, but I got pictures as soon as they were sent to me.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And I remember, no, I was in Mississippi then. That was way back. Oh, way back in the day. It would have been 90 or something. Okay. So I'm not going to blame you, but everyone else that was there laughed at me. They did? They laughed at you?
Starting point is 01:18:06 No, I wasn't there. You know what? If I'm going to be honest, though, I might. I might have laughed if I was there. You would have laughed. Because if you were not from Arizona, you wouldn't know what just happened. But everyone from Arizona ran and yelled for help. And everyone from anywhere else just laughed and laughed and laughed.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And Matt was there. I remember Matt threw the football. Yeah, because they were, Matt's a terrible throat. That's the thing that we need to remember. But secondly, we blame Matt. Yeah, well, let's blame Matt. He doesn't listen to the show, so he'll never know. But the point is, yeah, there's.
Starting point is 01:18:39 like they knew it was a man a man trap a killer a killer of people in phoenix and we didn't i think our people you know the utah people are like what it's just cactus big deal so i've a few a few little pokies no big deal like what's the worst we have up here in the summer you get those um what do we call those goat horns oh goat heads goat heads we called them goat heads but they were these little teeny buds that would fall off a certain plant and if you drove over with your bike you're you're gonna pop your bike's tire there's just no way around it but you get them in your shoes and if you're outside and flip flops and one got under your thing you you might poke your foot and go,
Starting point is 01:19:10 ah, this is the worst thing ever. Then you go down there. There's a heat seeking. There's a heat seeking missile thing. Yeah. Like, I remember being horrified by those photos
Starting point is 01:19:20 because I could tell just how an agony you were. You looked like me. It was awful. Freaking miserable. It's very PTSD for me to see them. Also, Pete kept pointing to cactuses and saying, do you think it'd be worse to jump on that one? Of course he did.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Of course he did. We're not going to talk about me and cactuses anymore. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't mean to derail you. that's cool you got to go hang out what was it where were you headed with that you had a point with that that you went down there for that what was your mom mom didn't recognize yeah and i was i would never in a million years think of course you can't tell me apart from him in a picture you're weirdo and then i saw it and i was like oh yeah that for sure could be me at 12 except i would have
Starting point is 01:19:59 had cactuses all over me um and and that just lack of awareness right like we we have a it's called focalism. You just can't fully see really well outside of your own purview about yourself. You can see it in other people. Like sometimes it's like that screaming experience where someone's saying something and like, can you hear what you're saying? Or do you see it? And we don't. We're not, you know, there's levels of self-awareness. So think about someone, you're just like, whoa, they have no self-awareness. They're really hard to be around, right? So the greater degree of self-awareness, people tend to be more likable because they're not just dumping their stuff on you without knowing that's what they're doing. Some people are like, sorry to be a dork,
Starting point is 01:20:45 but I'm going to do this thing. Like just even a little bit of that sometimes can soften this experience we have of people reacting and behaving in the ways that they often behave. So we have this mom and dad doing their mom and dad thing. They're pretty clueless. I have been around that maybe everyone has, especially older couples who are just kind of biting each other's heads off in public and you're like, what's happening right now? And it's like the self-awareness is really gone at that point where there's a hearing loss. I'm not really sure what causes it. It's doing it so long, whatever that might be. That's a perfect example of the more we're in a pattern, the longer we're in that pattern. The more we don't give a crap what other people think is this
Starting point is 01:21:31 combination of sort of seeing some of that go down and you're like, I'm watching your dynamic live here at the Walmart. I don't want to. But that is, that is a kid's purview in their parents relationship often. And so here's this person who has this purview. I'm sure we could get more details of like what that story is about. Maybe, you know, this is random. I'm throwing in other people's stories into this one. So of course, I don't know if this is true. But, Maybe dad cheated back in the 70s. You know what I mean? Maybe there was some untoward behavior in 1991.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And she's had to forgive and they've moved on, but they've never actually healed. And so that keeps playing out. You know, I've seen that before. And stuff like that. Sure. You maybe don't know all of it, but you do know the dance that happens. And then you go seeking for something really different. And you end up in that same boat again,
Starting point is 01:22:31 and again and again. And it's because some things that really need to change within you. So it might be forgiving your parents for something. It might be confronting them for something. I don't know the answer. It's very individual. But usually something has to shift for this pattern to not continue to repeat itself. Yeah. It sounds like a lot of there's going to be, well, like always, at the end of these things where there's work to be done and some of that work's going to require perhaps the help of a therapist or whatever, but I think that, you know, there's probably a way. Like, I feel like everybody's in this, this battle to some degree, it sounds like his is a little more fierce, but there's a battle for everyone and the parts about their parents, they want to
Starting point is 01:23:16 not be or avoid it. We all have it. I have that. People have that. People have that. It's just a thing you have. Yeah. And I think if you all really looked inside yourself, even if you have a great relationship with your parents, there's things about them that you're like, well, I'm glad I'm not doing that or I don't think that way or I don't say that or whatever even small things may be. So I think you can get there. I just think he's just deeper, you know, deeper, a little harder. Yeah, you may never get rid of it, but you can minimize them or something.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Right, right. Well, and the cost keeps showing up. And that's usually when we pay attention enough, it's often around, I can't keep doing this anymore. I don't want to do this anymore. And then, you know, you get to a moment where you're like, something's got to give. So my recommendation would be get someone to help you untangle this, right, and heal from that and figure out how not to keep replaying the thing that you don't need to replay, but you can't help or see that you're doing it, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:24:16 And I've worked with people on this exact kind of thing. And as they figure out a bunch of things and really start to shift, their relationships really do change. to be attracted to people that they wouldn't have prior. That don't, you know, aren't going to come along and fix that, that broken need because they couldn't get it from, from mom or dad. And I stole this from a client who is probably listening. And I think it's a really apt, helpful analogy is when you're growing up, you're getting, you know, and I've maybe used on the show before, but you get a pair of socks.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Your parents hand you a pair of socks. And then you partner with someone, and they're a hardware store. And you are trying your best to return those socks to the hardware store. And they cannot take them back because it's not theirs. They're a hardware store. Right. And so recognizing what those socks are, would I need to heal about that and deal with that so that when I'm dating a hardware store, I'm not trying to make them solve my problem.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Right. Yeah. When you're dating a hardware store. dating a hardware store with Wendy. I love that. We might have our title all worked out today. Well, let us know how things go. I hope this advice helps.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I think it, I don't know, it's made me think of some things. I'm a little worried about mom these days. She's, you know, forgetting some things. And I texted her yesterday. Sounded a little rough. So, you know, do it now while they're still young.
Starting point is 01:25:51 And you can repair some of that stuff, but also find the relationship. Also, I should say this. You also don't need to do any repairing with your parents to have this be healing and helpful. Right. They can stay the same. You never have to talk to them about this ever and still get what you need. You just can't usually do that alone very easily.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Right. Saying like, screw them, I'm not talking to them. Does not stop you from repeating that pattern in another location on earth, even if you don't see your parents. Right. It's built in there and you have to do some work to remodel, if that makes sense. sense that makes perfect sense yeah but still call your mom and call your mom tell you and lover see how things are going all that stuff it's important uh real quick to next week if anyone is up for it um i would love an email of like a specific email about if you feel like you are the family
Starting point is 01:26:42 scapegoat um interesting like you are the one that they are like uh if it wasn't for one billy It's all so-and-so's fault. Yeah. Yeah. And you're the one that keeps screwing up or everyone just thinks you're, basically you're blamed for any of the wrongdoings or mistakes or faults of others or the family or, you know, that kind of thing. All right. So where should I send my letter?
Starting point is 01:27:09 Just kidding. Do you really feel like you're the scapegoat? Not a scapegoat. No, but I was always the, you're the one with bad grades. You're the one who's oversensitive. year that I had a lot of labels and my sisters were like Wendy's the very studious one Misha is always helping Matt is so ingenuitive or whatever the word was back in the day like there was a lot of that going on so the labels for me were like well he's the creative
Starting point is 01:27:39 he's he's the creative sensitive one you know we don't know we don't know where what he's going to do we don't know how it's going to like a lot of that growing up but but it's not the same as like I didn't feel like I was a scapegoat. Like, ah, there's problems. The example of, I mean, we could do a whole session on your label situation, but the example of like a scapego at me, sorry, might be you're going to be late for work and your roommate's car is blocking you in. So you blame being late on your roommate, they are the scapego.
Starting point is 01:28:14 You were late anyway, right? And though you were, yeah, like, it's your, problem, but then this thing comes in and now I can blame that. So in a family, it would be something like there is real family dysfunction and historical this or maybe there was abuse or neglect or there's alcoholism or something going on. And the kid who's trying to tell the truth might be getting blamed because they're causing a disruption in the force. Like there are always this or that or they have too many feelings. Often it is a too many feeling kid, not the get along make us all look good kid that's usually not the one getting scapegoated right so you're the
Starting point is 01:28:52 scapego I'm the good kid yeah yeah so send us your thing send us your I know well I know it feels like either they are or they have seen that dynamic with a sibling or an uncle you know who is the scapegoat in your family and send us an email and we'll talk about yeah the morning stream at gmail com and I will send every I will forward all of them to windy whether we talk about all of them in detail or not I don't know but we'll we'll we'll see them all we'll read them all okay so send them in. In the meantime, Wendy, I hope you have just an amazing week, you know? Thank you so much. Yeah. And now that you know, you can get confused for your son, I don't know, go get carded somewhere or, you know, I don't know. I'm going to go see if he can open my phone. Because maybe he's doing
Starting point is 01:29:32 this for a while. I'm really curious now, actually. Yeah, maybe he's good. Did you actually give the email about where to send the scapegoat letter, by the way? Yeah, we did. The dumb warning stream at gmail.com is where to send it. Yeah. Our email address. All right. The red light email. Yeah, the red light email. Wendy, have a fantastic week. We'll see you next time. And don't forget, 31 days. Woo!
Starting point is 01:29:52 Oh, my gosh. All right. See you later. All right. She's gone. Cool. I mean, not gone forever. Just gone for now.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Let's move on. Yeah, that's right. We'd like to remind people on Thursdays what the rest of the weekend looks like for shows and stuff, and there's plenty of it. So let's talk first about Coverville today. What's going on? Yeah, coming up at noon, a little over an hour from now. Nick Lowe just celebrated his 75th birthday.
Starting point is 01:30:16 You know him as the guy who, when he was a member of Brinsley Schwartz, the band that was named after another member of the band, did a song called Cruel to Be Kind that became a huge hit for him. Also, the writer of What's So Funny About Peace, Love and Understanding, songs like Heart of the City, so it goes, love the sound of breaking glass, all men are liars, all that stuff. Great covers coming up of all those songs on today's Coverville, celebrating the 75th birthday of Mr. Nick Lowe. It's crazy that he's 75. Like, I think of him as a young dude. The guy has had white hair, though. He's like Steve Martin. He's had white hair for such a long time.
Starting point is 01:30:55 He's kind of looked a certain age for quite a while. And then stayed at that certain age once he got there. Do you think Ernie Hudson touched Paul Red on the filmmaking of those Ghostbusters movies? Because he said, he said, He's 78 years old. There's no way that guy is older than Bill Murray. It's just not possible. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I don't understand it. I guess black don't crack. I used to hear that and go, yeah, yeah. Always been on black. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I love it. Keep it up. But the age thing.
Starting point is 01:31:35 And like, what's his name? I can't think of anybody's name right now. But what's the deal? Why are you guys not aging? What magic? and it's not just Hollywood or plastic. That's not what Ernie Hudson is. No, no.
Starting point is 01:31:49 The guy's amazing. Yeah. I don't get it. For sure. Anyway, the best-looking Ghostbuster, it turns out. Let's do this also tonight, 5 p.m. Mountain Time. Core, some of you are like, wait, I thought I was at four. No, it's only four during daylight, whatever the last daylight savings period was.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Was that daylight savings or daylight? It was standard. Standard time. Standard time versus daylight. Daylights. Yeah, because Arizona doesn't fly with the rest of us. We had to change it to four, but now it's back to five. Crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:23 It's so stupid. We should all just get rid of it. But anyway, 5 p.m. tonight, Beau, me, John, lots to talk about kind of post-GDC stuff. A bunch of new things happening. We'll be talking long and detailed about all of them over at the core podcast. That's 5 p.m. here
Starting point is 01:32:39 at frogpans.com. Gets the connection tomorrow at 9 a.m. with Brian. Make sure you check that out. Yeah. uh yeah 9 a m yes yep uh couch party 10 a m for patrons uh that'll be brian and firefly that's right we're going to tear through another episode of probably what is it five i think is we're at or six maybe i think i think five sounds right i think we just did four yeah that's right one episode and then we go to uh and then it's a play date next week that's right really stretching this single uh season out of
Starting point is 01:33:09 firefly but anyway be there if you can if you're a patron that'd be great if you sign up today you could be there so just it's up to you also play retro that same day 1 30 mountain time tomorrow we will be talking all about the asteroids series very excited about that me and dunaway and then we'll probably play some UT 2K4 games after that so stick around for a little play and then film sack this weekend i forgot what we're watching what are we doing teen woof team wolf team wolf comes out on saturday this week because of the easter holiday so you can get it a day early teen wolf don't look at that what that dude and the bleachers is doing all right Don't pay any attention to that guy. Don't pay attention to that dude in the bleachers. We also have a winner for today's... Congratulations. Sticker.
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Starting point is 01:34:21 That is it for today's show. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all your needs. You'll find everything there. So please go check that out. Brian, let's get out of here with a song. What do you have? I've got a song going out to a big friend of the show, Ice Warm, Mike. Love hearing from this day. And he does so much behind the scenes. He is, he has forever been a contributor to TMS and is, along with Jeannie, kind of one of the unsung heroes in our community that does so much for the show. There's a lot of folks like that. I'm not going to just say it's just Jeannie and IceWend. There are quite a few people like that. But Mike wrote in. He said, Hello, Scott and Brian. This is Mike slash IceWorm. I'm going to be going to my first
Starting point is 01:35:01 Chevy Metal show tomorrow night. Chevy Metal is a cover band formed by Taylor Hawkins. Taylor was also known to cover Queens, somebody to love. I should mention, I don't think he said it in there. uh taylor hawkins late uh uh drummer for foo fighters uh incredible musician and and by all accounts the nicest guy in the world um i'd also like to give a shout out to club 606 who arranged an amazing celebration for what would have been taylor's 52nd birthday in laguna beach last month it was an awesome experience thanks and take care homies sign mike he sent me photos from that thing and it looked like such a blast and um he sent me a photo of the uh the list the set list.
Starting point is 01:35:44 And I'm like, I'm like, God, I would have loved to have seen this show. It looked like such an awesome set of covers on this thing. So I've got to find myself a YouTube video. Speaking of YouTube videos, you know, they never released it commercially,
Starting point is 01:35:55 but they did cover Queens, somebody to love quite often. The version we're going to hear comes from Lollapaloozer from 2022, featuring Taylor Hawkins on vocals and Dave Grohl, jumping back behind the drum kit for this one. Here is Queens, Somebody to Love. Want to play a queen song, Dave?
Starting point is 01:36:13 No? Oh, there it is. Ooh, yeah. Each morning I get up, I die, will. I can't stand in my beard. Take a look in the mirror and cry. I'm going to do me. I spent all the years and believed in you
Starting point is 01:36:42 But I just can get no relief No Somebody Can anybody Anybody find me Somebody in somebody Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:37:00 I woke hard At the end I bring all my heart to pick up On my head I get down in my knees and I start to pray To the cheers pulled down For my eyes No somebody
Starting point is 01:37:24 Somebody Can everybody Can everybody can find me Somebody alone Every day, try, try, try, try. But everybody wants to put me down and say that I'm holding a girl.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Look, oh, you're what on the day? I've got nobody left to believe Yeah, yeah, yeah, and still. Somebody, somebody, everybody find me, somebody, somebody to love me, somebody to love everybody. I got no rhythm I just keep losing my feelings But I'm okay, I'm all right He's all right
Starting point is 01:38:50 Please know I just got it out All this pissing cell One day I'm gonna be free No Ladies and gentlemen, Dave fucking roll on the drum fucking kids. It's good! It's good!
Starting point is 01:39:54 I like it! We got more. Dave girl, give us more. give us more. We want more from you. You haven't given us enough. Working overtime. Ha ha ha ha. Find me somebody to love. Find me somebody to love.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Find me somebody to love. Find me somebody to love. Find me somebody to love. Find me somebody to love. Find me somebody to love. to love find me somebody to love find me somebody to love find me somebody to love I'm being somebody to love me somebody to love one be somebody to love one be somebody to love I be somebody to love one be somebody to love find me somebody to love one be somebody to love one be somebody to love one be somebody to love
Starting point is 01:41:36 Somebody to love Somebody somebody Somebody Find me somebody Find me somebody somebody To know Yeah
Starting point is 01:41:49 Find me Find me Can you find me Can you find me Can you find me I got something better. I got something better. Laura.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Somebody to... No Oh Oh Yeah Find somebody To love To love
Starting point is 01:42:53 To love Can you find me Can you find me Somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody. Who you love, love, love, love. You know, love, love me. Don't, you know, can you find me? Can you find me?
Starting point is 01:43:15 Somebody, somebody, somebody. Somebody Somebody Somebody Get more at frogpants.com Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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