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Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Scott Does Pot Math. weirdly porous. Prison Toilet Cosplay. One-Eyed Willy's Hotdog Water. 12 Chickens per Beaver Tail. Ugly Muffins. Char My Dog. A DanDecaGram. Factoring the Crap Outta Polynomials. A nice digestive biscuit. Unfathomably Bored. You're An Asshole Charlie Brown. Rusty Trumpet. Bono Doesn't Owe You an Apology. Forgetting To Be Tired with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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prepare to be empowered. The MorningStream, one way or the other, this war ends tonight. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, April 4th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Thrientibbitt. Hi, Brian. April 4th. That's right. It's Martin Luther. The day Martin Luther King got shot, and unlike what Bono might have you believe, it did not happen in the morning. It happened in the evening. No. What the heck. The lyric is early morning, April 4th, shot rings out on a Memphis sky. Early morning, 6 p.m.

Do you feel like he's compelled at all to ever make a correction there, you know, just to keep history correct? That's right. We took the song, the history books are taking it back. I mean, I always wonder about that. I still stand by the fact that the fourth. number in the Spanish numerical system is Qatarsay. Yeah. Prove me wrong. You can't.

Yeah. It just seems like a thing that if you say, if you, if you become really popular for a thing that you've said and it's factually incorrect, do you owe anybody any kind of correction? I never heard an apology from Dan Quayle. So I think, I think, you know, you don't have to. You, you, you, uh, you ride that, uh, you ride that backwards horse all the way into the, into the sunset is what you do.

So as a guy who. doesn't like it when people misspell things i know you're not a fan of you know you like good spelling good grammar yeah you're fan uh you probably weren't you probably weren't a big fan of that guy because his whole thing was uh he could the spell no no no uh dan quail oh of dan quail yeah i wasn't there was many reasons i wasn't a fan of dan quail but that was that was certainly one of them yeah that was a little sauce on top for you that's a little sauce on top i'm still wrestling so i've been and listening and enjoying the Cowboy Carter

album. Oh yeah. I'd say album. Yeah, yeah. And loving the Jolene cover. And I really like the Blackbird cover. And I'm not sure how I feel about the news that came out yesterday or day before that she used the Beatles backing track for the cover. As

opposed to having somebody new, it's not a difficult guitar line to perform. Many people have done it with their own blackbird covers. I'm not sure how I feel about that I love the fact that she brings in all these other black artists to sing along with and the harmonies on that track are just gorgeous

but why why not bring in somebody else bring in her who is an incredible guitarist to do a new guitar line for that for that song yeah why yeah that's a bad not a bad idea Maybe she did it thinking it was a tribute of sorts to the Beatles original. Maybe because she did it with, from what I heard, did it with, with McCartney's permission. Yeah.

But, uh, which is, which is cool. Imagine that phone call. That probably went all right, you know. Right. This is, Mr. McCartney. Sir Paul, this is Beyonce. Oh, hey, Queen Bee. How is.

I hear you. He slowly turning to Ozzie. Yeah. I hear you. I hear you go to my baseline for, uh, for your. song for your cover there? Sure. I prefer, oh, thank you, honey. What's that? I can't eat that yet, you know.

But I'll eat it. I will eat it. Thank you. Sir Kim brought me egg and, oh, a crumpet. Hey, British people. A crumpet. A crumpet. We bought some crumpets. And I assume that they're authentic because they say something like real British crumpet, something on the bag. Yeah. Well, they look like English muffins, though, don't they? Like pretty close. They're weirdly porous. Here, I'll give you a look. Yeah, they're more porous.

Well, there goes your keyboard. Well, dang it. Maybe I don't need to see it. Kim's homemade raspberry jam is all over this thing. Oh, wow, cool. Yeah, I'll eat that later. But anyway, it's got a bunch of holes in it. Sorry.

Like a hornet's nest kind of bunch of holes. Right. As opposed to being a sealed thing that you cut in half and the holes are on the inside, the holes are kind of on the outside. Yeah, which I like those too, but I've always been told that those are like not authentic. um yeah so somebody british out there will tell us do you have any clotted cream

no clotted cream to pour in this so gross clotted cream it really is like clotted cream what zoe's not here to defend the british right now but like oh how about a nice digestive digestive biscuit it's a clotted cream whose idea was that

for real can we whatever queen or king or whoever did that they ought to be hung for that And no one's ever going to be able to come up with any, quote-unquote, American food that sounds gross, right? No one's going to be able to come up with anything that... Oh, I'm sure we have nothing. I'm sure it's all clear here. We have nothing. Yes, exactly.

Somebody posted that Bono corrected the Martin Luther King assassination error on a new version of Pride. It says, new version of U2's pride corrects Bono's erroneous assertion that Dr. Martin Luther King was shot early in the morning on April 4th and the updated version on Songs of Surrender. Bono has changed the lyric, so it's in, it's in the evening now. Approximately 6 p.m. and the Memphis sky. And approximately 6 p.m. Eastern. Later than I thought. Depending on where you are in the United States time zone system. Oh, man.

Octung, baby, octoon. Well, well done. You too. you've fixed it. Hey, when's the last time you did any kind of like, you know, add-ons or fixes or new walls in your house or any of that kind of thing? Like big projects. Like, I'll put in a shelf.

I mean, I guess a couple years ago, I installed new outlets. Like, I put in new outlets in our bathroom for where we didn't have outlets. Yeah. I mean, that's a... We needed one for our Toto Washlet Biday. Sure. that's no small task I get I get that oh um well this bathroom thing that we're having installed when Steve comes in town he's been putting it together he left so the toilet is all that

remains everything else is done and uh I'd forgotten how much like when you spackle and like let it dry and then sand it and then put another thing on there I forgot how coated at least the basement not maybe not upstairs oh yes everything has this much white dust on it Brian yeah We, that is such a, that is such, especially when you're, you're dealing with nerds like us that have a wide collection of stuff that dust can fall on to and collect behind and around. And it makes it really, really difficult to just pull out the bistle. Yeah, and computers and consoles. There's all sucking this air in and getting all clock. All these things that pull air in to cool themselves.

I look at my gaming PC and I'm thinking, I'm afraid to open you up. I don't even want to see what that looks like in there. geez yeah gross but uh yeah it's it's everywhere and uh yeah i don't i don't like it because it means it means i got to go and it's kind of a weird it's not just dust it's not a light fluffy thing it's a heavy um it's the word i'm like granular kind of grid it's like a yeah like a like a flower like it's um yeah it's weighted like flour as opposed to like a dust like a yeah You need a vacuum because you can't just use a swiffer, a little swiffer duster. Oh, I need to replace mine.

It's getting a little. A little gnarly, yeah. A little gnarly. You can't just use one of those. You're basically, if you use one of those, you're just going to be pushing this drywall dust around. That's what it really is. It's drywall dust. And if it's at all humid, then that kind of is even worse because then it sort of stays and you're like, oh, God.

Yeah. So anyway, thanks, Steve. and uh yeah actually we are very thankful because there's no way this is happening with me oh yeah no i mean and i'm paying so much less i don't think anybody is here under the illusion that uh well you know scout'll do it but since since steve's here let him do it yeah this was never even on the table for me yeah but he uh he's so good at it and so quick that i i mean literally this is the first real visit outside of when we put the framing up together that he's worked on it and he was only i think it was maybe only maybe three portions of a day that he was here for this two weeks he was in town

and he's at the tubs in the water's running everything's plummed and ready the toilet goes in next but it's just because he wanted to get everything spackled and done so ceilings up walls are all up we're gonna paint or we're going to prime it paint it while he's not here and then when he comes he'll do the toilet uh for some reason he can't do the toilet i could probably manage that you know i don't know I don't trust myself, though. I don't trust myself to do the toilet. Freaking, that thing is going to leak if I do it. I mean, so he's got the, he's got the, the drain hole there, right?

It's just a matter of putting a toilet on top of it. I think so. And then I guess you see, you see it or whatever you do. Yeah, you get a wax ring. You buy a wax ring. Okay. Where do I get? I go to a hardware store.

Like a Home Depot? Okay. Home Depot, yeah. All right. See, this is how bad I am at this. I don't know. It looks like a bun cake that you don't want to eat. And you put it over around the hole.

And then you lift up the toilet and place it down on top of the wax ring. And know that you've got a couple different sizes of toilets. There's American Standard. There's the, I don't know what that one's called, the fat Damon. I don't know what it's called. The fat Damon. Two different sizes of toilets. So, you know, make sure when you buy your toilet, you buy your seat.

You buy your seats and all that stuff. You get the right measurements. You rent a couple of copper lines from wherever the faucet is up to the bottom. There's a bottom ring in the bottom left side of the toilet. Connect that up there. Put a little deal in there. You probably have to install all that stuff too. The bobber, the ballcock.

Yeah, the ballcock. Oh, yeah, I love that. That came with the toilet. so I have everything I need if I have to do it. Oh, good. So you have all that part. All right, good. And it probably came with the pipes then to connect it to the water line. You might even be able to use, you could probably use flexi pipe. That's a lot easier.

It looks like bulletproof like Kevlar. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like pipe with a little Kevlar around it. That stuff's the new hotness for everything, like pipes in general. I've seen that stuff. Yeah, exactly. So when all your PVC is going bad or your old copper is rusting out, you got to get that flex line, baby. This is, you know, another one of this times.

happens a lot with us, but another one of those times that I wish that we live closer together, because I'd come over and help you with the... Oh, hell yeah, and we would film it, we'd get some content. Exactly. It would be the best TMS content ever. Hell yeah, supplemental toilet building content. Yeah. That's where the internet's headed. That's where we're going. Rainbow Bright says, tell Scott to get a plumber.

No, this is one of those things that once you learn how to do it yourself and you can see how easy it is, you will save hundreds of dollars on doing it yourself. It's like replacing your brake pads. Once I learned how to do that, thanks, YouTube. I, you know, I can take it to the shop and pay $600 to have them do it, plus the cost of the pads, or I can do it at home, pay for the pads, and do it for under $150 and half a day's labor. Yeah, and these Turlet videos are probably on YouTube as well, right?

Easily, yeah. All right, maybe I'll do it. I don't know. I'd have to warn Steve. September agrees. It's super easy and very satisfying to have accomplished it and save the money, for sure. And you only feel that true satisfaction, though, the first time you take a big old gnarly dump in it, right? And it works.

It's really the satisfaction comes when that gnarly dump goes down the drain and you're like, shoo, thank goodness I didn't have the, have things reversed. Yeah. I'd be nervous about that. But I don't know, maybe I'll just let Steve do it because he'll be back in time and he'll just do it. There you go. Yeah. Anyway, so that's fun. Dust aside, it's not, it's been fine and grateful.

That's great. I'm sure you'll do a little tour video of the basement once it's a... Oh, hell yeah. I'll show you guys my bathroom. Why not? I mean, you know, I think I said on the show, but I originally had plans to turn it into a prison bathroom. I was going to do like a toilet that was metal, squared off metal toilet. I was going to have scratches on, permanent scratches on the wall that showed how many days you'd been in there. You were going to cosplay that bathroom up. Oh, big time. Big time. I was going to put a fuzzy breeches poster on the wall. with a tiny hole in it. So it looked like Andy Dufrain

had been digging behind there. Buzzy Rich's poster. Okay. I know what you're saying. It's Raquel Welch in 10,000 BC. Exactly. I was going to do that. I was going to have this whole theme.

I was going to have little, I was going to do a little shelf and have little carved stone figurines. Little stone birds and, yep, penguins. I was absolutely planning on doing this and Kim Kaibosh. She's like, we're not doing that.

I'm like, oh, come on. It would have been the talk of the town. I want to go I want to go pee at Scott's house He's got a free of prison toilet I don't know if it's been a good talk of the town It's like did you hear about the Johnson's house He made his basement toilet look like a prison toilet Yeah

What definitely people who would do that Yeah family included Well anyway Do we like hot dog water really is the question I'd like to ask now Do we like hot dog water? No not a fan No I mean I like the hot dogs that I put in the hot dog water And boil them and take the hot dogs out of the hot dog water And then pour the hot dog water down the drain

but that's it. Is there somebody out there who likes hot dog, like who drinks hot dog water or something? Well, you and I are the same. I prefer my hot dog as only a remnant of what took place to get to the hot dog and make a proper hot dog. And the water is gone. I don't want it. Right. It's done.

Plus I have a grill. There's no way I'm boiling hot dogs. I want to grill marks. I want a little bit of char on that dog. Yeah. What are you? My mom in the 70s? You're never going to do that again.

Exactly. So everyone's mom did that, right? We all cook. Yes. Yes. I can picture she's cooking them right now with a phone tucked between her shoulder and her ear that's got a long curly cord to the other side of the kitchen and she's doing something else like, you know, cutting open the buns or something. Yep, poking at the dogs maybe here and there to make sure they're evenly cooked. Awful. Awful way to cook a hot dog, by the way. Terrible. Anyway, boiled wieners are way better than grilled, says Chris. I don't know, Chris.

Oh, wow. Okay. I don't know what you're saying. It feels like a challenge. I need to, a couple hot dogs. Oh, that could be fun. Do you hot dogs enter? That would be fun. I'll do the taste test challenge.

You know what? I will too. We'll pick a day. We'll pick a weekend or something. And now that the, you know, we're getting to grill weather. It's easier to do it on the proper grill. We'll do a grill dog. We'll do a boiled dog.

Same dog. Put it in a, I'll have Tina. I'll grill one. I'll boil the other. And then I'll turn around and let Tina put them in a bun, hide the drill marks, cover it up with just enough condiments so I can't look at them and tell which one's been cooked on the grill and then try it out. And then you should film it or she should.

I'll totally film it. Both of you film it. I'll film it. We'll both film it and then we'll combine the video, do a Hulk montage, you know, of the four weeners. And at the end, well... A lot of people are defending boiled. Look at that. People are crazy.

That's crazy. How can you not have a little crispy something on the outside? You got to have a little something? for for sure well look at this air fryer hot dogs says summer lover 1966 air fryer hot dogs okay well now you're talking now you're talking do that that gets them crispy on the eye outside that sounds pretty damn good yeah what do you do just like uh brush them with a little bit of olive oil and uh and then put them in the air fryer you probably do a little slits before you do it right the little yeah maybe yeah i always like that um i'm looking at oh there's oh yeah there's tons of content how to do this how to air fry

Yeah, I could do it. But see, that's the same principle for me. You're getting some crispy outside business. Which is what you get with the grill, which is, again, underscores why the grill is better than the pan full of hot dog water. Yeah, hot dog water is for losers. Anyway, here's what I got. So famously, my, well, I don't know, but famously, but my son-in-law hates hot dog water. Even the thought of it, me mentioning it makes him gag. Really? Yeah. He'll gag. Like, if he doesn't, if he's not in the kitchen and a hot dog, is prepared in boiling water and he knows it but he doesn't see it will he still eat the hot dog he will he will and he won't even care if it was cooked in water his problem is you know when

you get the bag and you open it and if you drained it out you'd get maybe a quarter cup of that stuff that little yeah the he hates he thinks that's the gag-iest thing in the world that almost slimy like yeah I know what you're talking about so we tease him about all the time I'll get a little a little cup of it and chase him around with it and just laugh you will yes I don't doubt that one bit. Yeah, it's a fun thing to do around here. Well, anyway, somebody sent us a text and says, hey, Scott, I remember you saying how much one of your daughter's boyfriends, now husbands.

Yeah, they've been married since 2014, 15. Anyway, hates hot dog water. Send this to him. So he sent me this link. 7-11 announces hot dog sparkling water. This was not April 1st. Wonder what day. Oh, it wasn't March 29.

Nope. This supposedly real. I can only assume it's real because it's not on that day. Update April 1st, 7-Eleven thankfully announced today that this is in fact an April Fool's Day joke. Damn it! I was really hoping this was real.

I was ready for you and I to do a live taste test on the show. Oh, we would have done it. Totally would have done it. I would have done it. And then I would have bought him a six-pack and tormented him with it. Yeah. Because he would hate this.

Yeah, all right. I thought because it was the 29th we were in. in the clear it's not in the clear i thought so too right and i'm sure that they because i did this with an aprilful's episode of coverville where i where i said it was a different date than it was i think i said it's i said it really fast march 32nd then welcome to another edition of coverville to see if people caught the fact that i said march 32nd or something did they catch it the people call you on it no i think a couple of people figured out right away in chat but uh yeah this was years ago like yeah back when it was fun to do april's jokes

Back when April Fool's Day, it was fun, and it wasn't just, here's a thing that is never ever going to happen. But it's not funny in any way. April Fool's now is either people complaining, people doing terrible jokes that don't work, or people saying, I wish think Geek still existed. I wish Blizzard still did them. I wish, Bep, Bep, that's me saying that.

That's me saying that, too. That's me too. I mean, those were the heydays, man. They don't do that anymore. Everyone sucks. The Goonies sequel, that one did get me for a second. I did see that one and say, wait, what? Oh, I missed that one.

There was a fake Goonie sequel thing? Yeah, a fake Goonies sequel called The Curse of One-Eid Willey's Gold or something like that. Had a movie poster done up and, you know, it looked. Because I believe there's no doubt that we've had all of these, you know, these sequels from 80s movies that we love that have come out. And so, of course, I would believe that they would do something like that. Yeah, that's not that far-fetched. you know and Kehoe Kwan is still

you know is in his second heyday right now and Corey Feldman is alive and yeah you got Josh Brolin's around he's doing that things we don't have mama

from the train anymore but we do still have Pentleiano yeah Josh Brolin is a Flintin Josh Brillin is a strange case not Carrie Russ

a lozre name Kerry Kerry not Underwood Carrie Carrie Oh shit Yeah, yeah.

That carry. That carry, yeah. Carrie Green. Let me ask you this. Why is it that they were all kind of roughly the same age, the kids in the movie? Mm-hmm. But, and Josh Brolin was a little older, yes. Were they really, though?

I thought, I mean, I feel like Josh Brolin and Carrie Green were the older. I mean, they were playing, what, like 13, 14? They were playing the, right. They were playing like the older brother and the older brother's girlfriend. It just seems to me that Josh Brolin has always looked 52 to me. and not in that movie obviously not not way back then right but everything since like i was watching cicario again and that was in 2014 2015 it's been a while he doesn't look any different than he does right now in dune part two or a thanos a few years ago like the dude doesn't change all right

let's let's uh always old and cool i like him a lot he looks great um without looking how old do you think Josh Brolin actually is unless you already know this 50 I don't know it but I'm going to guess 57 oh yeah 56

I mean he was born the year before we were and I always thought he was much older than than us and I think it came from I did see Goonies as a kid you never you still haven't seen it I still haven't seen it yeah I know he's in it but I still haven't seen it but I've always assumed that he was much older Sean Aston I was surprised is younger than

I thought Sean Aston was, would have been a little bit older than us. Oh, I did too, yeah. That surprises me. I would have, if you, if this was money and gun to the head, I would have said, yes, Sean Aston's older. How about Khe Hoi Kwan, older, or younger? Got to be younger. Yeah, he's younger, yeah.

Because we were definitely older when he was short-round in the Indiana Jones. Oh, yeah. He's 52. He was born two years after us. Oh, that's not that much. I guess in 1971. So when we were watching him in 84 in Temple of Doom, he seemed like the littlest of kids but we would have been what 14 so he would have been 11 or 12 11 12 yeah right he played little too i mean obviously that's kind of his thing it was his thing is the play

feldman born uh july 16th 1971 you're right around your birthday there yeah day before yeah day before but a couple year two years later i always celebrate the feldman birthday always who doesn't i mean we get out the feldman tree yeah we sit around we sing feldman carols and uh give each other Feldman presents. We dress like T-Mew-style Michael Jackson. You know? The Michael Jackson costume you got at Spirit Halloween. Yep, yep. We wear that. We dance poorly with them and, you know,

and then we drop hints that we were abused horribly by Hollywood while we were there. Exactly. I feel, you know, I feel bad for him. He is a product. He is, you can't blame Philemon. He was a product of his upbringing, that whole, he got pulled into the seedy side of Hollywood. Not only that, like, you have to almost admire it because he, he did, he got pulled into

all that garbage, came up through that horrendous time. Some of his compatriots were either super strung out on drugs or suicidal or, you know, we all know what happened to Corey Haim, and he's still on this other side, performing. We may look at his music and go, oh, this is kind of bad, what are we doing? You know, like all that, but I kind of have. have like an admiration for him pulling out of the whole thing a little bit you know what i mean as weird as it may seem sometimes and as funky as he may be you know personality wise he he survived it all he like he made it through it maybe not maybe not the way that we would have liked to

have seen him make it through on the other side but he made it through to the other side and yeah there's something to be said about that so yeah congratulations core my film sack uh special this month the joy of the joy of Feldman the joy of Feldman by Brian Abbott watch for it coming soon I don't know

I have a couple ideas for what I'm going to do for film sec this month but it's always always fun thinking of what you're going to do next right?

Yeah I might just do a whole because I've got so many emails from people so many many emails of nobody asking for this but I might do a thing of like how I do

the parody every week from start to finish. So I would do it for Honor Majesty's Secret Service and kind of go through the whole process. Maybe you can do a video thing, right? Of course you can. Yeah, totally. Well, it used to be you couldn't on the grandfathered accounts,

but we can now. Okay, cool. Totally can. Let's do that. Real quick here, someone in the chat says you guys should Film Sack Dream and a little dream. We did. Film Sack 20. Don't make us do it again, please.

Yeah, we're not doing it again. But we have not done license to drive. So hold out, No, wait, did we? Did we do license to drive as well? I don't think we did license to drive. Let me look. If you're looking for Dream and Little Dream was episode 20, Thursday, March 18th, 2020, or no, sorry, 2010.

So well over, you know, it was 14 years ago that we did that episode. Licensed to drive. No license to drive as far as I can find it. Yeah, it's not there. We didn't do it. Although you're not wrong to wonder because I always wonder if we've done things. That one feel, I can't, I feel like I remember seeing a movie where somebody was. I saw that one as a teenager.

Corey Hayne was learning how to drive, right? And he, is that the thing? Is that the whole premise of that? I don't know. I don't remember at all. I mean, maybe Lost Boys, they were driving. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

But we'll get around to it. Don't worry. License to drive is on our list somewhere. But we did, we did add baby driver to our list. Yeah, I get to finally see that. I just, I've never gotten around to it. I love what's his name's movies? All his movies.

Yeah. Can they give his name? Edgar Wright. David Spacey, I know, yeah. No, not Spacey. Just kidding. But I like Edgar Wright a lot, and I've only seen, there's only two movies of Edgar Wrights I haven't seen, Baby Driver, and then the third of the trilogy, the end

of time's alien one. Oh, really? Time, yes, the third of the Coronado trilogy, which is called the End of the World. End of the World. End of the World. Is that it? Yeah. End of the World.

Haven't seen it. Whatever that one's called. seeing that. Yeah. So, yeah, I would like to see that. Well, we're seeing the, after Her Majesty's Secret Service, we're watching the 2014 Godzilla. Yep. And super fuzz. The Britney Spears classic crossroads, unless that gets pulled.

Oh, man. We might have it happen. Oh, no. It might happen. World's end. That's it. I'm sorry. The world's end, not end of the world.

At world's end? Or just world's end? No, just world's end. What am I thinking of at world's end? What's that? Why is that a thing? At World's End. There is something at World's End.

Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End. That's it. That's it. That's it. Totally. Bad movie. Don't watch it. Do you not sack some kind of wonderful?

We could totally sack some kind of wonderful. I thought we did. Oh, the wonder. No, we didn't. We have it. Okay. Well, I would be, you know, sure. I like some kind of wonderful a lot, actually.

I'd like it better than pretty and pink. Hot take. Right there. Full agreement. No problem here. No issues here. I think it's a better movie than Pretty and Pink. Sorry, everyone.

I feel like Pretty and Pink was a... John Hughes at his proto stage. He wasn't quite full... He wasn't full-evolved John Hughes yet. That would happen later. And when that happened, everything was gold. Yes. Yes and no.

And I also think that it was a problem with the studios. because the original story of Pridding Pink was that Ducky ended up with Andy with Molly Ringwold's character and if that had happened I think we all would have liked because his audience were full of duckies their audience wasn't full of Blains

his audience was full of duckies 100% agree I didn't know that though but that actually helps me like that Oh you know If you leave OMD is playing And they see each other on other opposite sides of the prom and she

kind of pushes Blaine off to the side and says, no, I belong with Ducky. Yeah. That would have been the movie we would have looked for. Absolutely. I think so, yes. Yep. Yeah. And he would do that later. He did that really well later with other things. Yeah. Well, some kind of wonderful. Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

He got to almost rewrite it. That's right. The nerdy girl ends up with the quote unquote, uh, hot dude or whatever. Even, even breakfast club was this crossing of those streams, right? It was like, oh, the dirty, gross eat her own

dandruff girl is crossing over with the jock and she's all pretty now exactly yes and then

wait who ended up with bender oh Molly Ringwald did Molly Ringwald did she gave him her earring

yeah yeah he controversially wore an earing it was like it was played up for such like you know

push it through my ear and it was like whoa Yeah, that was made for my aunt. My aunt was very anti-airing back when my sisters were growing up. They'd be like, I can't believe her letting them pierced their ears. I know.

It's like, shut up, Aunt Connie. All right, here is finally a nice note from a listener for a move on. Did you say the Mali Shidi or Ali Shidi ate her dandri? Yeah, I said she did, but I know she didn't. She just put it in her. In my head, the potato chips in the sandwich and the dander for the same scene, and they're not. Well, you know what it was? It wasn't just the potato chips.

It was the pixie sticks, which are also a dust that she put on her sandwich. Jeez. Open up her buttered, two slices of buttered bread, tore open pixie sticks and put them all over there, then dumped potato chips in there and then ate it, which is why you're confusing the damning. Yeah, I totally combine those things. That's freaking disgusting. Nobody she'd eat their own dandruff. Oh, Captain Crunch, right, not potato chips.

Cap'n Crunch. It was Captain Crunch and Pixie sticks. Even worse. Even worse. Okay, that's the next TMS food challenge. But I already know what I'm going to think going in. It's going to be vomit-inducing. Can you imagine?

That's just foul. Well, anyway, here's a nice note from a listener. Oh, good. Let's hear a nice note. I'm just not that kind of note. Give me a C about C C. It's Andy from Pittsburgh, New North Carolina. He just says, I wanted to let you guys know that I've been listening to TMS for 12 years now.

And you guys make me laugh just about, or sorry, just. as much now as you did way back then. Here's to another 12 years. Keep it up. Aw. Thank you, Andy. That's really nice. That's pro, North Carolina. That might be the one, that might be the one city of North Carolina whose newspaper I never did visit. But man, I went all over the rest of that place.

Yeah, NC, baby. Place is cool. Greensboro and Raleigh and Durham and Wilmington and New Bern. I'm going to take this shoe and put Andy across here. Just like Toy Story. I'm going to write Andy. Oh. for this guy because he's so nice what a nice thing to say i got you now now i was like wait where

where this come from but okay because it was Andy yeah Andy from the old uh you know from the old the old uh the deal the old toy story the old toy story the old toy story the old toy story i was watching toy story toy story uh all right let's do some news and uh kick it off with this little sounder. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. A couple with an inordinate number of children use their special talents to find their kids after they're kidnapped by a mass murder who aims to wear their skin. This is a tricky one.

Who do you think this is? It's the silence of the 101 Dalmatians. Ah, you got it. Nailed it. Damn, you're fast with these. I wouldn't have gotten that one. That one's hard. Oh, really?

Yeah. There's two, you know, there's two big wear in the skin things out there. It's the silence of the lambs and it's 101 down there. Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. Well, good job. Nicely does. I guess Texas Chainsaw Massacre, also the dude wore leather face wore skin, somebody's skin. That's true.

I could try to throw you by doing that one next, having it be very vaguely described. Right. And doing it as like what sounds like a family movie, right? Yeah, yeah. A couple, a group of kids goes, goes on a road trip to a farm where they find someone who's excited about the hardware that they own. A police officer helps them with the thing. Love it. All right.

Let's go to Florida. We got some Florida News. Florida News. That's kind of a shocking story. Florida 10-year-old is accused of selling a dead father's gun. for $300 at elementary school. Oh, geez. I didn't kill the dad.

The dad just died, but... Right, right, right, yes. Yeah, just to make sure people... He didn't go like, bang, bang, kill your dad, and then went to school and sold the gun that he used. It wasn't like that. Yeah, no, that's an even far worse story.

Yeah, that's a further up the road of gross and awful. What elementary school kid had $300 to buy a gun? That's the bigger question that I... Don't have a good answer for him. Get as many. Florida 10-year-old accused of selling drugs to buy $300 gun from a classmate. Yeah. Or Florida elementary kid way too much money in his Venmo account.

Like, I don't know how this works. Florida 10-year-old invests heavily in Bitcoin. Yeah, and is able to pay out cash at school. Two 10-year-old boys were arrested after one of the children sold a gun to the other at the elementary school, according to Hendry County Sheriff's Office. In a release, deputies said they responded. to the county or excuse me country oaks elementary school on wednesday morning the school was placed on a brief lockdown detectives explained that in february one of the students agreed to trade a handgun which belonged to his deceased father for three hundred bucks the gun was later found in a shed in one of the boys backyards along with a baggy of marijuana that weighed about 74 grams how much is that is that a lot of pot i don't know how much pot that is that a lot of pot i have no idea either like uh grams some milligrams that's a lot time bag is uh 10 grams i don't know I really don't know. I don't know either. This is not a culture I'm in. I know you can get...

I'm all about melting it in a spoon and injecting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and your eyelids or maybe between your toes because of your veins. Yeah, that's exactly. I don't know how much it all weighs. Your arm veins have all dried up. Seventy-four grabs. I mean, if you think of dry grass clippings, same kind of thing. So 74 grams of dry grass clippings is like a large, like probably like two-thirds of a, of a quart-sized zip-lock freezer bag. Yeah, that sounds right. And that's a lot of THC

because if you break that down by milligrams of THC, well, I don't know how much is, I don't know how that works. But, you know, if you get like a 5 to 10, or you get a 10 milligram gummy, if this, if 74 grams represented 74 grams of THC,

which I know it's not entirely THC, but if it did, that's a lot. Because then they, that's 10, because that's 10 milligrams per one gram. If you do the math, that's, hold on. It's like 100 gummies or some shit. I don't know. Yeah, but is a milligram, a 10th?

I thought milligram is a 10th of a gram, no? 1,000th of a gram, no? Oh, maybe. 100th of a gram? This is where everybody's watching the train, 100th of a gram. Here's where everybody's just watching the train, like, go off the tracks and hurdle towards that, that crowd of people. This is why we need metric here, dude.

We need something easy. Yeah. Kilograms. Oh, no, that grams is metric. So it's 10. So it's tens. No, hundreds, thousandth. Okay.

Oz says 1,000 milligrams is a gram. That's what I, yeah. Okay, that's what I said. I did say 1,000. You know, come on there, people. Is there a centagram? Like a, you know what I mean? Because you go millimeter, centimeter, meter?

I don't know if there's a cent. I mean, there'd be, like, what's a hundredth of a gram? I don't know if they have a hundredth, like... No, yes, but no one uses it, says Kevin. There you go. Centigrade. Yeah, there's not a, that's not a term, but that, that does exist, yes.

Decagram is a hundredth of a gram, right? That would make sense. Decagram? Okay. D, yeah, D for, or Deca for 10. Damn, decagram, centagram, milligram, says Chris. All right. Well, we did great, everyone. Well, done. Well, anyway. This is why I keep getting shafted on my drug dealers, by the way. Because I keep getting offered money, and I don't know how much that is.

I guess just take what you think is a centagram of pot. Help yourself. Yeah, good luck. But honor system. Yeah. I'm not going to check. I'm not going to check. So I trust you that you're going to only take a centigram.

Says the student who traded the handgun faces charges of selling firearms to a minor, unlawful possession of a firearm by a minor and possession of a firearm on a school property and grand theft firearm. Can't wait for that game. His mother is a deputy. Oh, geez. His mother's a deputy with the sheriff's office. I missed this part.

She was placed on administrative leave pending investigation because I want to know what. Maybe she has anything to do with it. I don't know. This sounds like me telling the stories about the prison warden's kid that would bring us clandestine video and stuff. Oh, yeah. Right. It's a little like that.

Do you have somebody in power in your family? They don't necessarily know what you're doing or getting away with. No, no, exactly. They don't know what you're smuggling out of the house. But, wow, she should have had that. She should have had, as a deputy, she should have had her husband, her widowed husband's, uh, deceased husband's handgun in some sort of lockdown. Yeah, yeah, this is a parent problem.

That's what it sounds like. And she should know even more better because she's a freaking sheriff's deputy. Good Lord. That's right. Well, Megas says, can we send a fourth grade math quiz to Scott and see how he does? Yeah, do it. I'll do it. We'll totally both do it. I'll do it more. I can do that. Listen, I can factor the crap out of a polynomial. You give me a polynomial. I will factor the crap out of that thing. I can do basic math, no problem. But if you're going to give me, if you're going to say, hey, here's a bunch of metric system shit, you've got to figure out.

Exactly. Yeah. Except for, you know, meters, the meters deal measurement and easy. They made it easy for us. And the meters, millimeters. We all know that. That's easy. Yeah, but we don't mess with the, I don't mess with weights very much. And I don't deal with kilometers. Although, same kind of thing, I guess. Yeah. I mean, it's a meter. A kilometer is a thousand meters. Yeah, and trust me, I want, I want to have this life. I want the metric system to be, we have asked for it.

Tens are so much easier to deal with than 12s. Yeah, I don't want to do, it's 12 chickens to every beaver's tail or whatever we do here now. So yeah, that's what I'm into it. I know, Caducey. I just really like to brag about, you know, my supposed ability to factor polynomials. She says, she corrects me. It's not fourth grade math. Well, I know.

Fourth grade math is really just going to be your, here's a long equation with different operands in it. What order do you solve all these things? Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty simple stuff. And it's a lot of like, Billy showed up at school with a gun for $300. Yeah. Yeah. They used to call those, um, story problems? Yeah. Story problems. We're problems, story problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember those being distracting.

We download a fourth grade mail. Look at that. We do have a fourth grade math quiz. They felt distracting to me when I was a kid because you were telling me a story and I would get bunged up in the story. Well, what's Billy Waring? Yeah, yeah. I kind of would do that. My brain would go places that would be like, well, wait a minute. Why would he do that? Why would he show? up with 16 eggs. That's a weird number. Who has 16 eggs? Usually have a dozen because the thing. And the teacher's like, you little weirdo? We're just trying to do the math.

I'm like, well, then give me a story I can understand. That's what, that's, that was my stance in fourth grade. This is, uh, quizzes, Q-U-I-Z-I-Z dot com has what they call fourth grade math problems on it and this the bullion algebra so the question one is a plus zero equals

zero zero zero minus a negative a uh one or d my little pony what yeah okay forget that they're they're d in every one of these is a pair of smelly sneakers a sneakers a purple rock a poisonous dart frog tinkerbell ugly muffins It's like, okay, why waste our time with this?

No, that's stupid. Also, I played bass for Ugly Muffins for about a week. They were doing pot too much. That is a great band name, Ugly Muffins. Ugly Muffins, yep, opening for, I don't know who. Yeah. In just a moment, Train, but first, let's have Ugly Muffins. Oh, I love that the main act is Train.

Train would be the band that Ugly Muffins opens for. And Ugly Muffins wouldn't be happy about it. They'd be like, well, we've got to pay our dues. Eventually we'll headline. Train tour. Yeah, it's fine. We'll take what we can get. Trains fine.

They're okay. They put out an okay Zeppelin cover album a few years back that a couple of the songs were different. They kind of played it safe and did a lot of them the same, but they're okay. Yeah. Pat Monaghan's a good vocalist. And they're a capable band. They had a couple of hits that made them seem like one hit wonders. And that's just a curse for some bands.

and so it's yeah it is whatever train is fine none of us need to hear drops of jupiter anytime soon or uh oh my gosh um what was the other one uh the big dun dun nope that's maroon five no no it is yeah that was maroon five yeah there was an era there where everybody kind of sounded the same kind of did yeah redmond festival is that a song that must have been where they performed oh ugly muffins open for meat puppets in 92 with the Redmond Festival. It really is a good name. I would use it if I was a band.

I'm not a band, so I can't use it. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. My sister, who is also not a band, will be here. She will talk about an email we got, and that'll be after this break with this song.

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this is taken from their recording sessions the single marks a final piece of the puzzle this classic vignette talks about clearing out the mess and being vaguely spiteful whilst unfathomably bored oh man wow the band is courting here is the new song Battle The dance drive the night

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Are a solid alternative To golf the balls a night To a girl, a girl, a boy Leave that one that you hardly liked It's a twist Screeked off rest of endless All they'll come in soon playing Nice while it lasted

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some windy time. Some good... Time for some Wendy time. Good old-fashioned Wendy time. Now, I'm a little disappointed in people because we didn't get... We asked for a bunch of follow-up emails about a very specific thing. Oh, we did. Yeah, about a topic two weeks ago. Nobody sent us anything. And I don't know why, but we're doing this anyway.

Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. That's right. Her name is Wendy, and she is my sister, and she is a practicing therapist who helps people all the time with the real problems and comes in here on Thursdays and does a little thing called Therapy Thursday. Wendy, welcome back. Hello? Wrestling with your phone? Hello? I hear laughter.

She's trying to figure it out. Yeah. We're getting there. Wendy? Probably an Adam, Adam problem? Wendy? The atom problem. Can I hear you? Hello. Yep, we can. Can you hear us? Yeah. I think you.

That's a problem. Anyway, I think. No, you're fine. I think it was, that was your phone that we were hearing in your pocket or something, right? Was that what's going on? I don't know. Oh, maybe I had to try to use your phone as a microphone before you get it switched over to your, whatever. Yeah, it took a second, I think. Did you say it's an atom problem? What does that mean? Oh, I just meant. So we have, whenever Nicole comes on, we always blame her husband for technical errors.

So it's just kind of a fun thing to do. It doesn't matter who you are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is, it's definitely, that's appropriate. Yeah, I like to do that. Throw it to the guy in the family. Hey, it's good to have you back.

How are you? How was your week? How are things? Good. Yeah? Yeah. All right. I know we talk about the weather sometimes, but I'm just glad, you know, you're here and that you guys

got some snow, assembling. of a winter, but I don't know. Let's start warming up. It's going to be 70 today. I'm going to be in the sun today. I'm going to go do another bike ride today. Yeah. And then don't you get snow again this weekend?

Yeah, we get cold again. Cold again. Possible rain and snow mix on Saturday. But you got to let us have our moment, okay? Yeah, come on now. Geez, why you got to yuck our yum? Yeah, what's the deal there, Wendy? Today's topic is about yucking people's yums.

Let's do it. just kidding it's an email we're going to read it uh this is something that we received oh so i was cheesing people out because we we had asked for uh uh a very specific request i cannot for the life of me remember what we asked them to write in about though do you remember wendy what was it we were supposed to get last week when we asked it was two weeks ago uh what was it was uh do you remember are you there do we lose you i was messing with my headphones um and you clearly couldn't hear me i don't remember okay listen you know sometimes i get real tired yeah when i'm real tired i know how i mean this sounds so dumb most people know when they're tired yeah but i really know because i drop things

yeah yeah wait wait you drop things when you're tired explain that more oh i hear myself why do i hear myself yeah she's i hear myself what's happening i don't know you're better now you're better now so wait a minute you drops you drop things when you're tired yeah well okay this sounds dumb like you should know you're tired so you just know but i don't really know that i'm too tired until i start dropping things it's like it's the thing that makes me realize i'm tired so i will drop glass things break them or whatever wow okay good 10 minutes before this call i knocked an entire full glass of water like halfway across oh geez all right i kind of do this too but it's usually when i'm too hyped up it's the opposite problem yeah oh yeah mine's

fatigue thing. Like my kids, I will drop things and be like, are you tired? I'm like, oh yeah, I guess I am. Brian, do you do anything weird? When you're tired, do you like kick stuff over or, you know, I don't know, knock team his glass. Yeah, no, I'll, I'll, I'll trip on things or I'll accidentally kick a chair. Like I've, yeah. So it's an exhaustion. But I don't, yeah, I get more stumbling than anything else. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That may explain some. My loud glass-based things, just glass. Yeah. Or large pitchers of water. Anyway, so no, I don't remember. but I think it had something to do with a call or a play thing we know no one yeah it was scapegoating that's right oh dating a hardware store is what it right that was it no scapegoating

people are going to write in about scapegoat stuff and I got zipo zero scapegoat emails none I guess no one's a scapegoat in their family that's cool yeah I mean it's okay if that's the case it just feels like maybe some of you were hiding a thing you just didn't want to tell us you didn't want to write in and you didn't have to use your name you can still do it too by the way the future is yours all right it is also they could also just write in here's a here's another thought I mean we do have an email today but it's not about this but another thought of I feel like I hear this so much which is people it's just like he's a narcissist right and I'm like okay let's go through the definition of narcissist or I'm being gaslit I'm like all right let's go through

the definition of gaslit and it's because you know the popular is popular Zezation. Also, I can't speak when I'm tired. Sure. That's totally, you got it. Late night at Wendy's house.

Yeah. No, that'd be good. That's, I, we do that a lot, right, as a society.

We start using a word all the time, and then we act like, you know, we kind of adhere to whatever meaning we decide to assign to it because it's so popular

right now. There's certain words right now. I can't even say without like making me nauseous. Tell me one. If I hear this word one more time, I'm seriously going to throw, up, but I'll say it. Okay, you're ready? Hold on. Yeah. The word woke. I can't do it anymore.

Oh. Yeah. I can't do it anymore. Like, I'm so sick of it. And I don't want to hear it from anybody. Like nobody. Right. No, neither side. Exactly. Any side, any place, anywhere, anyone. I'm done with it. I don't want to hear it again. I am sorry for even saying it. But it's like one of those, right? Like where people have assigned whatever they want to assign to it. And it isn't what it originally meant. And the thing that it originally meant is so far off and like kind of dumb to start with it's not even a word yeah unless you say i woke up you know right right yes i woke uh you i what you hey dad needs he's late for work somebody make him woke i don't know if i'd say it but you know what i mean freaking hate it oh i hate it so much sure we could talk about that or there's also just

the psychobabble terms that they get put in the zeitkeist everyone starts using them um I did have a really interesting experience this week that made me feel like, oh, this is how the future operates. I had a client say, hey, I just have some, I have 10 questions I'd like to go through with you today. And I'm like, am I, are we being filmed? What is this? It just got weird for a second. And she's like, I'm embarrassed to say this. But anyway, I just, these are some important questions.

I think we should go through. And I was like, okay, could we just stop being weird and tell me where you got the questions? And it's because she was embarrassed that she got him on Instagram. But basically, it was Therapy Jeff. I've never even heard of him speak. So I am not promoting or dispromoting him. But I had three clients in five days ask me the same 10 questions. And I was like, oh, that's how it works.

Is everybody the algorithm, you know, gets going and you're getting therapy content. And then you find therapy, Jeff. And he says, hey, if you're in therapy, you should ask your therapist these times. questions. Now, I'm going to tell you, they were great questions. So I'm not saying. Don't ask your therapist those questions. But it was weird to be like, oh. And then the next person was like, okay, I'm just wondering if we could go through a couple of questions. I'm like, are there 10? Yeah. So what does it feel like there's a like there's a like there's a template floating around and everybody's? Yeah, yeah. And they're great questions. One is like, I think it's the first one.

Have you diagnosed me and with what? And if you haven't, Why not? And I'm like, oh, that's an interesting thing you would know or not know, huh? Okay. So, like, that felt pretty basic. And others were like, what's feedback you wish you could give me, but you know I won't take? Like pretty great insight questions or what are my red and green flags if I was in a relationship or, you know. So it's like, let's stop being around the bush and tell me what you really think of me.

And, you know, I think has a place, but it was kind of, it was kind of weird to have it all happening at once. That is weird. That must have been a very strange experience. Yeah. Do you guys ever have that? No. Everyone sees something online and then tell you about it. I'm trying to think of anything that's been that specific. I mean, you see patterns, right, Brian? Like once in a while I'd just be like, oh, everybody's saying this thing.

I don't know. It's hard to explain. I don't think of anything that specific, though. So that's pretty wild. What that tells me is people are doing a lot of self-diagnosis online and they're all finding the same resources and they're all asking you the same questions. Go into the popular, right, right, the most popular site for that sort of thing. Ten things you should ask your therapist, probably.

Right, right. Yeah, and then when you ask, it was like one of them started crying because one of the questions is, what are you proud of me about or why are you proud of me? And I'm like, oh, I could braddle that off right now. And then I say it and they're sobbing. I'm like, oh, should I tell people this more often? Yeah. Just because, you know, you're in the thick of it.

And so it was a good little lesson for me. So thanks, Therapy Jeff. I just like the name. Therapy Jeff. Thank you, Therapy, Jeff. Yeah, anyway, but it's, yeah, so that was, that was bizarre. And I think that this probably happens to doctors or people who are like, someone comes in as like, okay, this is what I think I have because they've Googled it, you know, or whatever, maybe. So that was, that was interesting.

I felt like the outside world met the inside the inside the first time. I was going to ask you, we were Kim and I were watching. I'm more casually for me because I'd already seen this season, but Kim's watching The Good Wife, which turns out, I actually think it might be the last verifiably good television show that didn't get canceled too early on network television. And I mean that very specifically because network TV nowadays, to me, I mean, someone could give me an example and I'd be happy to see it, but it feels like 99.9% of it is NCIS ripoffs or NCIS actual spinoffs or other procedural that follow the exact same formula and they're very formulaic and boring to me and television

network television you know not since you know i think of things like west wing hannibal uh friday night lights the first the very first c s i yeah before that became a before that became like the quote-to-quote template of television exactly let's let's rubber stamp this with a bunch of different cities and make it the same thing yeah and i and i'm noticing that like this show is like really good It's like, wow, it's deep and it's interesting and the acting's great and it was it was celebrated at the time for all that and everything. And it feels like maybe the last example of that. Anyway, that's not really my point. We're watching this and we're thinking, I wonder how, you know, it's mostly a courtroom drama most of the time, the show.

And I always wonder how do, what do lawyers think when they watch this or the latter half of L.A. law or not L.A. Law and order when they get to the order part. and and so then I was watching something that had a bunch of psychological guests on people that were in there trying to tell the you know the sort of they were the therapist and now they're on the stand being interviewed and I thought when Wendy sees a show that features mental health experts therapist right exactly does it is it like when a doctor watches ER or something where they're just rolling their eyes that's got a podcaster yeah yeah or video or they do video again like I saw there was a there was a law and order special victims unit episode where there was an

MMO a guy who was running but he was running it all by himself and it was the biggest game in the world and somebody died in the game and then died in real life it ruined the show for me ruined it forever because it was all based on complete nonsense like it was not even close to reality and it was the first time where I went oh yeah this is probably what this is like for like doctors cops lawyers there you know anybody who says any of that so windy when you watch that sort of thing do you just kind of roll your eyes and go oh that was well i always have this thought like in your your video game example is like could you talk to one person it's not hard i know it isn't person yeah place and just say does this make sense right i feel like that

happens a lot and that's the group think that can happen when you're like in a room with the same people who think the same way and you're you have an agenda that you're and pressure and all sorts of things, right? Like, just call anyone that has been to therapy and say, does this resonate with you? Or, you know, I think therapy is so much more ubiquitous than it used to be. I think the portrayals are all over the map for because it's great fodder for TV, right? Like, I think of, is it, what is that, Lucifer or whatever? Do you remember that show? Oh, Lucifer, yeah. Kim likes that show. Yeah, his relationship with, I mean, he has Satan, so, but his relationship with his therapist is so disturbing and dysfunctional that you're like oh don't show that and then the kimmie schmidt

portrayal with tina fay is probably one of my favorite therapy portrayals ever it's so funny it's really good um and so their characterizations for the the flow of the show right but like when you see it done really well and here's the thing i don't usually seek it out some people are like have you watched and i'm like yeah i don't want to watch something at night that i did all day you know like that's not interesting however shrinking is a really fun It's so great. But there is also like my ethical ears ring the whole time. Sure.

Oh, yeah, right. I mean, the whole premise is this guy, you know, Segal says, you know what, I'm not going to do therapy the right way anymore. I'm just going to tell people exactly what I think of. Which is, and this is, whoever is on, written the show and working that show knows that's what people, they've probably been in therapy, kind of want to know, which is the questions therapy, Jeff, is asking you to ask, right? He's saying, tell me what you're proud of, what red flags are you seeing you're not telling me? Tell me how far I've come. One of his

questions is, what's your first impression of me and what is your impression of me now? Yeah. And so they're really like, am I okay? So I'm telling Adam about this and he's like, is this a deep millennial need for feedback? I was like, huh, maybe. So anyway, all my millennial clients were really into it. So I'm, my current, you know, end of four is that, yeah, it's a millennial need to be told you're, you're doing good. But I think about like, okay, so shrinking is a great example of people have said to me in therapy, just tell me what to do or tell me what you really think or, you know, and that isn't therapeutic. That's being your mother. And on one hand, you can do a little of that. But, I mean, shrinking does it full hog and

breaks it. But it's also like, left and right. It's like a diet, right? You can stand there and keep me from eating foods that are bad for me and making me exercise. But if you're not around, I'm going to go back to those old habits. So it's kind of the same way. It's like telling me what to do in therapy is worse than saying, nope, what do you think you should do and figuring out and saying, that's right? You've got, you know, you're on the right. And you can say.

And I was going to say, you can safely say that that show is a top three Harrison Ford Rolls over in my. opinion he's so good at it gosh he's so great gosh dang i don't even think he's acting i just think that's who he is yeah we talked about that a little bit i think brian and i when we first talked about that show is like he's this just feels like they grabbed harrison for it's to be yourself we're going to film right totally is yeah what's the what is the most curmudgeonly crotchety version of yourself that you've got well it's pretty much the way i am every day calista always yelling at calista left the window open again calista's freezing in here Come on, Flochardt.

You want to know another performance where you will be confused that the person doing the work is not really the person. It is a wonderful book. If anyone needs a good audio, audible book or audio listen, it's called Tom Lake. Yeah. And it's Merrill Streep reads it. And I am convinced this is Merrill Streep's real life. Like, I know, I know she's an incredible actor and that's all she's doing here. But I am convinced she has a life and she lived on Tom Lake at one point.

She has three daughters and she lives in the farm. I cannot tell you how fun it is to listen to. This book is widely Ann Pratchett. Wily, widely revered. People like this book. Yeah, it's so great. And the premise ultimately is like it's COVID and all her adult daughters had to come back home and they're on the farm. And as they're picking cherries, they're in Michigan.

She's telling them different stories from their life, from her life. And her life's really, and this, the whole story thing is really interesting. It's about acting when she was younger. I'm telling you, I had to a couple times be like, should I Google Merrill Streep? Are you sure she's not living? Like, she's so good. And I know that's like the dumbest thing to say, you know who's a good actor? Is Merrill Street?

Oh, well. Wow. That book's written for her to read. It's so good. Anyway. Interesting. All right. Well, there you go.

That's some fun preview to our actual question. today, which I'm now going to read. Nothing to do with this at all. No, not even close. Not even close. But here's how it goes. This is from an anonymous listener who says, hello, Scott, Brian and Wendy. My last mate, my dad, 72 years old at the time, was diagnosed with stage four pancreatic

cancer. While I have been dealing with this very well, I was just called by my mom who told me that they are ending chemo treatments on him and that at this point, they're giving him three to six months to live. He can potentially do a critical trial that might extend things a bit, but will cause him a lot of discomfort. I'm very conflicted on this. While I want my dad to be around for as long as possible, I don't want the rest of his life to be uncomfortable. And I'm being greedy in wanting him to possibly do this trial, is the question. My 37th birthday is in June, and I would like him

to be here for my birthday, but it wouldn't be a very good celebration if he's super uncomfortable. Thanks for the advice. This conflict of somebody's got a terminal diagnosis. it's stage fours so it's gnarly dude and you want to see them also not one of the easiest to treat no it's the hardest and often the quickest to take you down

but having just gone through this with Kim's sister and her stage four cancer and her last six months or so were really really hard especially those last few weeks holy crap you're always split because on the one hand you're like

I would like you to live forever and have this be a brief thing in your life and we'll move past it. But I also know that that's probably not going to happen. And I don't want you to be miserable for even a day. Right? So these two things in your head are like, please don't die. And also, it's probably better if you die. And that's conflicting, man.

Oh, God, it is. Because you feel rotten about both ends of that. Without naming any names, there's, the person in our family who just got diagnosed with breast cancer and they're older and just had their doctor's appointment, their daughter went with them and basically was there to hear, you know, well, if it were your daughter going through this, we'd throw everything in the book at it to fight it, but because of your age, we're worried that you might not be able to deal with some of the stuff that's going to be happening with chemo and radiation and lumpectomy and

that sort of thing and so we're wanting to treat it a totally different way and it's you know it's it's hard to hear but it's like you're you're having to look at both sides what's going to be worse in the long run their pain and discomfort for a long period of time or potentially giving them another three years when you know they could be enjoyed. that three years in a different way. Yeah. So Wendy, what do you do here? What's your advice?

Really tough. Yeah, I think, so I think I've mentioned this on the show before, not that everyone's got all the time in the world to read books, but being mortal by Atul Gawande is an incredible book that just tackles this concept head on. In essence, you could just find a summary of it or just read some excerpts from it. Um, so essentially he's writing it as a, from the perspective of, of the doctor and having these

hard conversations with families, um, but then he's also in the middle of writing the book. His dad, who's a well-known physician, um, gets cancer and then is, is dying in the process. So he has the exact experience he's writing about from the patient perspective and the child of the, the patient. And, uh, you know, I think, I think sometimes are, Our inclination, this is very deeply held by many, many of us is that the more time, the better, right? We need more time, like this example of, I want them, I want them to be at my birthday party in June.

You know, you have milestones and things you look forward to and you want to want them there for, and everything starts to feel really precious, right? Like, we won't, this will be our last this or that. And so stuff starts to be imbued with way more significant. So, for example, I don't know if they're regularly having birthday parties for 30-plus-year-olds that are a massive deal, or is it that, oh, this will be the last one you can make it to. So you can see how you start to just make it. Yeah, it might be less about the celebration of the birthday and more just about the birthday itself, wanting you to be there for it. Right, because you start to calculate the loss and what that means and the timing of things.

And when you're experiencing grief, especially long, elongated grief, right? We don't, we're sort of not built exactly neurologically for really extended grieving periods in the sense that we will have with a very difficult diagnosis that is terminal and we have all this time. So Scott, you and your family have just gone through this. And, you know, at some point, I'm not going to make, say this anyone necessarily says this out loud because there's a maybe shame here or whatever is that there's relief when someone finally passes and then they feel guilty that there's relief and you know there's just so many more layers than maybe a quick um or sudden death then that's got its old series of things but we're sort of not maybe

super capable of not burning out or or or staying functional when we are helping care for someone who's dying slowly so often in these conversations though we don't talk about what the person wants. So that would be my question for this emailer. What is dad saying? I understand maybe mom wants him to live longer. I understand you want him to live longer. What does he want to do? Which is why I really like the being mortal book because it really puts front and center that the person should have some choices in how the end of their life looks. And so there's There's some terms called health, you know, health span versus lifespan.

Lifespan is long, long, more months, more months. We are really, really, as a medical, philosophical underpinning, we're real big into longevity or lifespan numbers. And we don't talk much about health span, which is that you are functional and healthy and feel good while you are also. You know, you're 100 and you can't breathe or move is not a quality of life that, you know, people would sign up for. If you said, hey, you're active and feel really great up into your 80s, that's pretty impressive.

So here we are at 72. That feels way too young. And pancreatic cancer is a really scary, often inoperable, difficult in stage four. I mean, the reality is tricky. And so when you're looking at this situation, you're going to have all your feelings. Mom's going to have all her feelings. Everyone's going to be struggling. And often people don't talk to the actual patient.

They don't talk to the actual person to find out what they want. sometimes that person wants whatever you want because they're seeing you suffer and so it's this is a this is tricky so scott do you have any experience with this like with angel was she clear on what her needs or wants were or was everyone kind of making decisions for her um i think there was that's it that's a great question because i think there was a time where some of those decisions were being kind of made for her but it was early in the diagnosis which happened in early to 2020 and she died last October so 2023 so during that three years I think there was some front-loaded um race to try because it was the initial diagnosis was stage four so it was like all right well

this this run of chemo this run of this uh we're going to try we're going to get you on an experimental drug trial blah blah blah it's like a lot of that in the early goings and and in her case she was feeling pretty okay then so she was like yeah all right whatever let's do it i can handle all this but toward the end i think it got to the point where especially i think in the last i don't know eight months i think she had kind of resigned herself to this is just where i'm going the acceptance yeah and it's other people that had a harder time with the acceptance it's funny you bring up that contrast of sudden versus sort of elongated um because in my experience the only the only really close to me death that's ever really happened in my life thus far was dad and his heart attack in

2000 and it was very quick right like we didn't have a lot of time for anything and um and nobody saw it coming and it just kind of happened and that was that was the way that was and that's a very different kind of grieving compared to what Kim had to go through with her sister, which was the very slow, drawn out experience. A lot of siblings and others trying to fill her life with as much possible stuff as they could before the inevitable. So trips or, you know, things we used to do together, or let's just spend the day at the strawberry festival or whatever it is they're doing. They were doing all these things trying to get it all in. And they did a really good job of that, but that never felt like enough, right?

And it toward the end, you know, Kim was with her during some very rough moments. I don't have to get in detail, but, you know, some very, really hard moments that made her say to herself, like, I wish she could just go. So she doesn't have to be in this kind of pain because it was really bad toward the end. And, and, and then we'd have discussions later about how that was kind of, that. made her feel conflicted, like guilty about it. Like, why would I want that for her? What I really, what I really want is her to be here for as long as we're all here. But that's what I really want. But given the circumstances, I would rather she not be in pain anymore. And that was, that was interesting for me to see that through her eyes and to experience that secondhand because with that

it was just bam and there's nothing I could do, which has its own set of guilt, right? This whole other thing of like, well, if I'd have known this, I would have spent way more time with dad before he died or we would have gone to Lake Powell 16 more times before he passed or, you know, it's a different kind of guilt. So neither's good. Both suck. Like, they're both bad, but I don't know how you get it. I don't know how you do any of that without feeling those feelings, you know, one way. And you will. And here's the thing with, especially this type of cancer, I think, you know, Obviously, doctors want to give you hope and they want to also be reasonable about what exists. And, you know, they're doing their best.

I feel like it's what a tricky job, right? You have to both be like really incredible at all this science and then also have a really good bedside manner. Like, how does that even work? But you take that desire. And I just kind of reread that paragraph at the end. He said, I'm very conflicted on this. Well, I want my dad to be around as long as possible. I don't want the rest of his life to be on.

comfortable. Here's the thing. It will be if he does the treatment, right? That is what the treatments will do. And it will be at the very end because that's what cancer will do, right? And you could read a ton, you can talk to other people, you can find out their experiences. But I have seen this where the guilt and the regret and the different things come from whatever you choose will sometimes feel like it was the wrong choice because some other potential sliding door. option you missed because you've made a different choice. So I think a smart idea would be to have a conversation with dad and be really open to what dad wants. And I think there's actually an example of like a guidance in the book, but you could probably find some good stuff online of just how

to approach this like honoring what he wants. Because here's what can, it doesn't solve all the things, but it also can help assuage some of this when you are honoring what they want. So this self-determination in the end is pretty powerful to help with grief, as opposed to, like, someone's like, I'm fighting this, I'm fighting this, I want to fight this. Well, then you're going to honor that, right? But if they knew you were okay with whatever they decided and they were like, oh, I was just fighting this because of you. You're like, oh, you actually would like to spend the last three to six months with us

writing your history, spending time with the grandkids, you know, whatever that behavior, that wish might be and have a different outcome. Because what is their choice is the only choice in the end that will, I guess, matter. And that's my opinion, right? You might say, well, my mom and I want matters most. And I don't know if we'd get a lot of people to vote for that. But I understand it. You know, you so desperately don't want him to leave, you would, you know, there's a chance. So you're saying there's a chance. There's a chance. So let's do it. Let's do it. But the reality is in some cases that chance is just so slim. You get more time, but that health span thing really goes downhill. It's really tricky. And so I am, first of all, sorry that this is happening.

Like, what? So challenging. I have a family I'm working with right now and their mother, and she's in her 60. She's about 10 years younger than this, also stage four pancreatic cancer. And her choice, and this is a woman who has done nothing but self-sacrifice her whole life. Everything is what everyone has always wanted. And the whole family did this process of just, what is it you really want, mom? Because they were like, all right, we're taking you to Europe because in Mexico. There are these places there that do this like total nutritional clinic, whatever, like all the things you can throw your money at to do. So they were all bustling around her

And she just sort of held a family meeting And just said, I don't want to do any of this I just want to open my furniture store So what I need everyone to do is come help me open my furniture Because she was she redos antique stuff and some cool stuff She's like that's what I need and so can you help me So everyone turned from Let's cure an uncurable disease to let's give mom her life

dream here of her own door, you know. So, but what's really cool about that, and I don't know if she knew this, maybe intuitively, but she gave everyone something to do. And as humans, we're really driven to do a thing in order to handle feeling or handle emotions or trauma or whatever it might be, you know, your action can feel better. Even though it doesn't do any good, it's not going to save her life, which is what they were all about to do, right? They were going to, you know, turn every rock over to help her. But she gave them something that fit with what she needed. She's still alive. They're at this point. All the

children coming from different places, come and take turns, opening the store, painting walls, creating a thing that, you know, what's going to happen after? Who knows? But they are helping her have this quality of life at the end. And pancreatic cancer is very painful. If you don't treat it if you do. So you're sort of not going to have like a great on experience no matter what, right? And so anyway, that was just an example I thought of like, okay, they let her be the main voice in the decision. And I don't, obviously we don't know this guy's relationship with his dad or how often his dad's going to say, hey, let's do this thing for me or you. But it is really worth some really honest conversations so that this decision um helps you feel less

conflicted because it's what dad wants yeah you know this is good actually to hear because if i'm ever in this position i think i would have a tendency to be i would i would be i would show difference to the kids to say well they want what's best so okay i'll try you know i'll do what they want or whatever but at the end of the day you should be able to just sort of say I want to do this. Like, it's not selfish. You're going to die. No, exactly, yeah.

So you should get a say in that. And what they think they might want might be different than what they might realize that they want in hindsight. Yeah. Right. They don't want to spend more time with you, but they maybe don't realize that they don't want to spend this time with you where they're seeing you in pain and then having to feel the guilt of, oh, man, we extended his life, but we extended his pain for long time. Yeah, there's something really beautiful about them. rallying around in your example and doing this um this furniture restoration thing that's awesome what a cool thing to talk about in the future and a thing to have and both the memories and the actual

physicality of it and everything else like what a cool what a cool thing and that's so much better than chasing a white rabbit around unregulated medical countries for a thing that isn't going to work anyway like what a waste i really like that Yeah. And it, it, it, it, it belies, well, underneath it really is this maybe deeper notion of find you, you're going to have to find peace with loss, right? Yeah. Or you can never find peace with loss. People do that all the time. We actually have a diagnosis code for that, right? Of just complicated or, or never ending bereavement, right? And so you're going to have to get good at grieving. And this is starting. This is real. It starts the minute you get. the diagnosis, right? And then it hope and back and forth and it's really hard. So know that you are, it's normal to feel all the feelings that you're having, but also recognize many

people have done this before you. Right. And some have done it well and some have not. And so, you know, I would say overall, I think the Being Mortal book is just a great, everyone should read it because this is coming for every one of us in some form, right? Whether it's sudden loss or elongated loss or it's ourselves, you know, I'm kind of thinking about what it is we really want. And I don't know if it's in that or another one where they surveyed all of these critical care doctors and nurses about how they would like to die. And man, it's like 99% of them said, give me pain and meds and send me home.

I don't want to be anywhere near these places. And that's partly because they know exactly the extent maybe to save a life that they go through and how hard that is. We have a family story, Adam's brothers and ER physician who he tells this story about this family that came in. The ER, Grandma was having a heart attack. She's 89 years old. And he's like, you know, maybe we let her go. And they were like, absolutely not. You do everything to save her.

Yeah. So he just broke all her ribs doing CPR because you would. Yeah. And they were sobbing and hysterical and they can't believe she's gone. And you're like, I understand that you thought she had many, many, many, many more years left. She was probably that Southern matriarch thing. Like I get some powerful mojo with that Southern matriarch thing big time. Yeah.

He knew there was not a choice. He had to just break all her ribs. Yeah. Um, and that is that is a choice. Um, but, you know, he says there's versions of that all the time where, you know, we're not ready. And the physical person there, if we can keep them alive longer, maybe we could get ready or maybe we could say the thing we need to say. So when you have time, you have three to six months here, make those, make that time really count. And that's the gift of this long grief. Um, that most of us wouldn't want to sign up for, but, but it really is a gift

if you see it the way that it, what it really is. It's hard to do. So, you know, maybe finding someone who's been there before you to rely on and get some advice from or feel like, you know, and if that's not someone nearby, I mean, unfortunately, cancer's everywhere. So, you know, he might be able to find someone. But it's tricky because every cancer is so different and treatment's so different. But to really try not to be alone in this.

And then, you know, your relationship with your dad, maybe you need to feel. fix some things. You know, there's stuff that you can do and maybe feel like you need to do and maybe things haven't been said and that's hard because sometimes that's how it is in a family. So anyway, it gives you a chance to do some things differently. You just, the reframing of it though is really important. And I think that's hard. We don't maybe naturally reframe this this way. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. Well, I hope for the both of you can have this conversation. That's in the important bit. So please do. And let us know how. how things go. And he may say to you, keep me around as long as possible. I mean, he may say that,

but you got to have that conversation. You got to find out where, where their heads are at. Because really, I get how you would get, you know, if Kim was in this position, if Kim was the one with a terminal diagnosis, we would all be losing our freaking minds here. And the idea that she would say, no, it's okay. You know, whatever. We'd be like, yeah, but this planet doesn't exist. If you're not here, what happens to the rest of the world when you die? Like, that's the level. of upset we would be but but you still got to you got to find out where they're so hard to put put completely remove your feelings from the equation and focus just on what they want yeah yeah it's hard i mean it's even even when the even when it's like i mean we're going through this again with two more

cancer diagnoses in the family and um they're much earlier than than angels was so there's a lot more there's a lot more hope and a lot more all of that but there's still this feeling of like we need to make sure these conversations are happening and you know everyone's on the same page all the time and if we don't we're or if we're not you know listening to the person who's literally the victim of this horrible disease then we're doing it wrong so anyway let us know how it goes something real quick with what brian said like you have to set your feelings aside to hear their feelings like you can't make it about you yeah but then whatever feelings you do have you need to deal with so but you don't deal with it right don't bury them deep and

mind somewhere else to work with them instead of putting it on your parents to not leave you because i don't i don't care how old you are there's a feeling of being an orphan when you lose a parent and so this is obviously this person's first parent they will lose and it's it sucks so you should have a billion feelings but you if you give space for your dad to to convey his it's going to help probably you in the long run. So, yeah, that's what I would recommend. Yeah. Well, let us know.

And as always, your follow-up, your feelings, your own emails about your own issues at home or abroad or whatever. Please send them, the morning stream at gmail.com. Again, that whole thing with, I already forgot it. What was it we were asking for two weeks ago? Oh, scapegoating. If you've been scapegoated, we still want to hear from you, okay? Yeah, or if someone told you, you're gaslighting them and you're like,

What? I want to hear that, too. Also, gaslighting. Yeah. Gaslighting is a funny term. Any psychology word someone throws at you. Yeah. The word gaslighting is so misused right now. It's overused. 100%. Yeah. You got to learn how to light that gas. This is the phrase 100%. No, I'm just kidding. You don't want going to day with me. You're gaslighting me.

Like, no. That's not how it works. Right. Exactly. Yeah. You're gaslighting me. You're so woke. Yeah. It's a little bit like what Alanis Morissette did with ironic. She screwed that up. Totally. None of that stuff are ironic. Exactly. So let's fix that.

Let's fix those two other words that I don't like saying. Well, Wendy, it's been great talking to you. I hope you don't drop any more glass items while you recover from your tiredness. And apparently it also rubs off on other generations. Carter is basically you. She drops and trips over things all the time when she's tired. You can tell when she's tired because her eyes go from their just normal straight across eyes. and they start doing this by the end of the night.

They start drooping. Start going this way. And that's when you know that you need to hide all the glassware when Carter feels that way. Yeah. Move stuff off the floor. She can hear me. Wendy, have a fantastic week. We'll talk to you next time.

Bye now. All right. Just kidding, Carter. Oh, you have headphones on. Never mind. Everything's good. We're just talking about how awesome you are. That's it.

It's all good. Nothing else at all. Hey, Brian, quick email here at the end. It's from our pal Steve. In fact, I saw him in the chat earlier. Buxley. I don't know if Buxley's still in there, but he wrote in. Old time community member, dude, was doing segments for the instance back in like 2005 or seven.

Thanks for your question. Yeah, he's awesome. Anyway, he says, hey, Scott and Brian, my friend launched the Kickstarter this morning, and it's already almost halfway funded. Might even be more now. Anyway, it's a custom eight-big game for the NES called the storied sword. I thought you'd be interested in seeing it. And we wanted to do Steve a little favor and his friend by sending you to Kickstarter.

Looks like, uh, oh. Just do a search for the storied sword. Yeah, you'll find it. And it looks like they've, uh, beat their goal and are on their way to their next level. This is awesome. Oh, very cool. And you can play this. I'm assuming, Steve, you can correct me, uh, if, if I'm wrong.

But like on your Anbernic or on your anything that does NES emulation, you'd be able to play it? You don't have to have a. Yeah, the 10, in fact, the entry reward level is. is a copy of the ROM, so you'd be set to go. Cool. Perfect. Play that on whatever you played on. But if you want a cartridge... Yeah, for retro's sake.

Yeah, they make that as well. So very, very cool. So yeah, go check it out. Just search for, like we said, the storied sword on Kickstarter, and check it out. Congratulations to your buddy. I think that's awesome.

Complex and Ninja says, do people correct you when you're right? All the effing time. All the time. All the time. Never not correcting. Stuff coming. That's one of the things I miss most about the instance.

It was all of the community stuff you'd hear at the end, like Miss Magra and the tip givers tip of the week and Buxley. I mean, those are the greatest stuff. Yeah, we love that. There was some Randy, like, there was a deluxe. What was his name? I remember Sean Basic, but there was some guy who, like, played on the Sean Base. basic thing. Richard,

maybe? Ruxel, Ruxlandi. Deluxe or Randall. Something like that. Yeah, something like Randallux. Yeah, it was a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago, hard to say.

Patrick also, he was doing his tip givers tip of the week. Hello, this is Patrick. Oh, right. Yeah, but well, tip givers tip of the week was Daryl, wasn't it? Oh, right. Patrick's was Maud of the Week. Patrick's was Maud of the Week. Yes.

That's right. It is your Maud of the Week. It is one that will tell you every time Mancric's wife is dead. Which is every time. So, goodbye. How many times? Really, really? But yeah, some of my favorite people in the world all came out of those weird segments.

So thank you all for that. We got some stuff coming up this weekend. Today we got a coverville. Brian, tell us what's going on. We do have a coverville. All right, here's the person that I think the way you describe, him is he's a songwriter's songwriter if you know his work and you you if you know his music you doubt there's anybody who knows his music who doesn't love his music the guy's name is

richard thompson uh british uh artist who was born in nodding hill in ukay okay all right he's just a man standing in front of a woman playing some awesome music um probably best known for a hit he had an album called rumour and sigh in the 90s rumor and sigh and the the lead off song was uh i feel so good i'm going to break somebody's hard tonight. That one, like he was a son from the perspective of a guy who just got out of jail and was really happy to be free. Sure.

But I saw this guy initially, like, when Crowded House toured for Woodface, the album that had Tim Finn back with the band, or with the band for the first time since split ends, Richard Thompson opened. And it was another one of those times where, oh, I love the main act. But the opening act is a new discovery. I went and bought a bunch of Richard Thompson music, and I'm so glad I did. Anyway, a lot of people love his music as well. So you're going to hear covers by Elvis Costello, Barb Junger, Curtis Stigers,

two songs from Susanna Hoffs, both solo and then one with Matthew Sweet, The Counting Crows, Loud and Wainwright. And then you're going to hear Richard Thompson covering a little ditty by squeeze. All of this coming up today. noon, 12 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.tv.tv.com. Go check it out. Yeah, please do. Also, a ton of frog pant stuff coming up, cleaning film sack, court a night, all this other stuff. Find those time. Play dates. Oh, yeah, play date tomorrow. I almost forgot. We're doing it at nine to start early.

We always, we usually do. Yeah, you want to do nine and then we can, yeah, sure. Usually do. Then we get done a little earlier. We usually do. Yeah. So that'll be tomorrow, 9 a.m. right here on the stream. We'll be playing, who knows, jackbox or something. We'll figure it out. Something. Yeah. It's time, though. And that's for everybody. not just patrons so whoever wants to show up please show up patrons might get player first pick yeah priority is the word I was trying to do for him but everything else frogpants dot com slash podcast we'll have a link to the to the calendar I don't know why I don't point

people there more often but it has everything that's coming up live shows for everything so go check it out that is going to do it for us use our website at your leisure at frogpants.com slash TMS for all other things. In the meantime, Brian's got a song and we'll play us out. Let's play it. This one's going out to Alec. Yes, we're still wrapping up some March requests, so sue me. Greetings Scooter and Boogie Board on the 14th.

I end my 45th circle around the big ball of fire in the sky and would humbly request a cover. I don't have anything specific in mind, so I leave it in the covermaster's capable hands. People say that phrase a lot. I'm fine with it. I love it, but it's just funny how I leave it in the covermaster's capable hands. Love the show, though, and do you all still have scooters failing that, a rousing round of which film sack clip is that would be acceptable, aside Alex. So scooters, I don't have handy because I still never found those clips. I could go make them again.

However, if you want a... Random film sack clip, and we'll see what name the movie. All right, I'm going to dig down. Give me a year, Brian. Just give me a year. 2013. 13. Here's a rando.

Charlie Brown's an asshole. Okay. Charlie Brown's an asshole. Brown's an asshole. And that's the only one on that date. So I don't know. Oh, really? So we have no other context for it.

Definitely a movie. And I don't know either what it's from. But I know it's from. Anyone in the chat? No? It's not a Peanuts movie. There was no Peanuts movie. You're an asshole, Charlie Brown is the...

Charlie Brown's an asshole. I don't know. There's a little bit of an echo, too, from that kid, too. I don't know. I have no idea. Give us another one from the same year, but a different date. So they're saying trick or treat. Yeah, possible.

That's possible. Let's try this one. Todd and Janelle are dicks. Oh, that one's easy. That's Terminator 2, right? Yeah, as the parents, right? Yeah, that's totally that. How about this one?

Well, good. They got stabbed right through the milk. Oh, that's a good shit. I love that she got stabbed right through the milk. Or was that Todd? Todd got stabbed through the milk. She was on the phone or something. Yeah, we saw her murder off screen, right?

Todd was, right, exactly. Todd was holding a milk, and the knife went through the milk and through his neck. And it's that actor who's always a douchebag and everything he's ever in. Yes. So play that shit again? Here you go. Shit! No idea.

Although I put, so that file's called shit, a parenthesis, Steve. I don't know what that would be. Here's another one from that same day. What's the matter, you chicken dick? No idea. Oh. God, at first I was going to say. say that's weird science but that's uh what are you looking at but hey all right i'll do

one more shut up you'll fart no idea no i do oh my god these are horrible it's a long time ago trick our treat says uh tech 22 all right found the the clip so definitely trick our treat okay well we did it then we succeeded in our goal oh lost boys was one of those oh okay all right at about the same time we saw that stuff oh that's right yeah she was the robot and the Todd got stabbed that's right she was she was on the phone

holding the phone while she stabbed Todd with her because she was the T1,000 yeah right and then but how did she but her she died off screen no she oh yeah she died off screen in the T1,000 before he got there right or he got a I think he showed up

at the door as a cop and said hello ma'am something something and then they cut away and then by the time you got back she had sorted it yeah that was what it was exactly right yep and you know that woman who's the mom or you know she grew up to be florence henderson no she was vasquez in uh aliens oh in aliens yeah really okay same actress i do know i do know that bit of it but the rest i don't know has anyone ever mistaken you for a man have you was her retort she was amazing anyway sorry back to your birthday request.

Yeah, yeah, so I get to pick my own, which is great, because we would have forgotten everything that Alex said between then and now anyway. Remember FilmSack this last week when, you know, Randy and I had this little battle over Warren Zivon and his music. And, you know, if you're introduced to Werewolves of London as the first song by Warren Zivon, then you might not like him as much as if you were introduced to other things that that Warren Zivon has done. Let me introduce you all to another song,

Warren Zivon that is fantastic. It's not performed by Warren Zivon. It's performed by The Pretty Flowers. They just released a Golden Beat Sessions in 2019 that include this one. This is, I think, the best track from Excitable Boy. It's called Lawyers, Guns, and Money. Here are The Pretty Flowers.

One, two, three, woo! I went home with the waitress the way I always do how was I to know she was with the Russians too I was gambling in Havana I took a little risk Send lawyers, guns and money

Dad get me out of this Ha! I'm an innocent but stander And somehow I got stuck Between a rock and a heartless And I'm down on my luck Yes, I'm down on my luck Well, I'm down on my luck

And I'm hiding in Honduras I'm a desperate man Send lawyers, guns and money This shit has hit the fan All right, send lawyers, guns, and money. Send lawyers, guns, and money. Send lawyers guns and money Alright

Sin lawyers guns and money Send lawyers, guns, and money. Get more at frogpants.com. Now go over there and walk in some mud.