The Morning Stream - TMS 2630: Snip N Shake

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

Ted Bundy's This And That. Mitzula-Approved Zones. He died of being 114. We're All Tired Of Bono. Not Worth The Waint. Stare at your hands and don't puke. Girth Quake. Coronal Mass Ejaculations. Scape Goatee. I'll Giggle It! You Get NO Privacy, NO Grace And NO LT YAR! A Comic Book is a Comic Book is a Comic Book. Resident Canucklehead. Blurry Shark Nerd Nerd Ferfert Ferfert. In The Drawer The Whole Time With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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then you will not leave this room alive. I will obey your orders. I see the pizza guy, but I don't see the pizza. The morning stream. Am I still here? Hello. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream. It's the morning stream for April. 11th, 2024. Scott Johnson, here, Brian, there. Hi, Brian. Hello, here and there. Yeah. Also, he has a last name as well. It's Ibitt. It's, uh, I did Scott Johnson and then I just said Brian and you know, you have a whole name.

No, I'm like Twiggy. You could just use one name, but here's how old I am. Like my first go-to of like, people who only need one name, Twiggy. Twiggy. You know, I always wonder about this. This is funny you bring this up because just this morning I was having a conversation with my daughter about this. Yeah. About Twiggy. If you're, no, if you're Lady Gaga. Yeah. And that's, that's the name she goes by. So when you see credits for this new Joker 2 movie, it says, you know, Phoenix.

She's not Stephanie Germanotti. Yeah. Even when they just do last name, they just go Gaga. They don't, they don't mess around. Right. Phoenix. Gaga. So we don't have like a Dwayne Johnson kind of problem with hers.

It's just Lady Gaga is her name. And I always wonder, because I think she is really talented and I really like her. And I think she's a good actor. She's an amazing singer. Like all her career, freaking well done, two thumbs up. Her jumping into the football stadium, still one of my favorite gifts of all time. Like, you just got it going on. Wee.

But here's the question I always end up with her. It feels like the kind of name that once things really kicked off for you, that you might eventually go, I wish it was something else. You know what I mean? Right, right. I mean, you brought up The Rock. The Rock is a great example of this. like, uh, the rock got my whole wrestling career and all this is going great and give me 25 steamed chicken breasts and 43 eggs. That's my breakfast. All right. Right. Oh, things are going

really well, Dwayne Johnson. Yeah, Duane Johnson. Although, didn't he, I think the, I think he just got the rock back or something, like somebody owned the right or the WWF wouldn't give him the rights. I think, I think, uh, all stayed owned it. Oh, all stayed owned the rock. What? Really? Is that true? Oh, you're making that up. No, like, I think it was traditional. I guess this prudential to get a piece of the rock yeah i was like wait a minute i'll stay as you're in good hands i'm like wait a minute yeah uh so he i think what happened is i don't think it was like a suit or anything but now that he's a part owner or he's some kind of investor in the w w f e whatever it is e e e e okay it's e now it hasn't been w w f for like two decades so i don't know what's wrong with me but anyway i think

he got the rights to the rock back and i don't know if that means his new movies and and stuff will have the rock or not. If he'll be back to the rock, yeah. Or he'll stick with his name. He's gotten to the point where I think he's as well known under both names that he carries enough clout that somebody says,

oh, the new movie with Dwayne Johnson, they're not going to go who and so, oh, the rock. Oh, yeah, him. You know, they're going to be, they know who Dwayne Johnson is. But if it was like, Joaquin Phoenix and Stephanie Germinati. Who?

Oh, yeah. Okay, good. Yeah, you had to remind me that that was her original name. I've forgotten about it. So I guess she's fine. She's locked in. It's fine. But I just, if it was me, I would get sick of whatever. Like, this is true of anybody. Lil Wayne. Like, freaking F that. I want to be just be Wayne. You know, or what's another one? Who has it? Bono. Do you ever just get tired of that? You'd rather be called. You know his real name. What's his real name? What's his real name? Bono's real name? Paul Houston. Don't you ever want to just be called Paul? Like, hey, I'm Paul. I'm going to go have a bloody Mary on Sunday. I'm Paul, everybody. Paul is the name.

Not Bono. I don't know. I think about that sometimes. Anyway, that doesn't matter. What matters is we're here to do a show. We're glad you're all here with us. And we're going to get going. Our pal Nikki, Dr. Nicky.

She goes by Dr. Headbutt quite often. Really? Yeah. Because that's what, that's what sheep do, right? That's how sheep greet each other, the headbutt. I assume that's what that's from. She could confirm or deny that. I bet it is, yeah. She's got that name on Twitter and stuff. But anyway, she says this, Dear Scott and Brian, random question for the show. When traveling somewhere new, do you always try to seek, or sorry, what do you always try to seek out? For example, I always try to find natural history museums, botanical gardens and oddity shops because I'm weird like that. Love the show, though, Nikki. So, Brian, when you go to a new town, let's say when you went to a new town, let's say when you went to to Ireland or Japan.

Okay. What is your first? Those are tougher examples. I mean, I think of when I was doing, because I was traveling solo a lot when I worked at the software company in the 90s. And my, my ritual was, um,

leave the airport, get my rental car, drive to the hotel, drop my stuff off and then find a nearby comic shop. And see, and see if like there was any sort of, like, oh,

wow, they've got these cool statues that I'm never going to have room to fit in my suitcase and take home or that sort of thing. I think for me now, I mean, there is that. Like when we went to, oh, there was this cool, it was in Dublin, there was this cool corner that we always seemed to be going past. And they had a, I think I took pictures of it. They had, for some reason, a blood donation facility. and up there with the blood donation facility there are there were um uh statues of like

batman of vampire um i care but were like all the ones they had around this corner and then there was like uh like a game shop uh games and comics shop and um it took three days for me to say team do we have time for me to run in there and look around and just see what they have and and uh yeah it was a wax museum too which i think the wax museum is why they had those statues up there. But, yeah, no, that's probably still a number one thing I look for. Maybe a restaurant near the hotel, you know, that basically I can go grab a bite before I come back and crash for the night kind of thing.

How about you? Sure. I'm kind of with her on the oddity shop thing. The first time I went to New Orleans, I was like, all right, I need some voodoo. I need to see some weird shit. I need some voodoo in my life. Yeah, so let's go find all the weird stuff, and we would always do that. We do that.

When Kim and I go to Vegas alone, sometimes we just drive around and look for weird shops. And we try to stay within, like, Missoula-approved zones, because we know we can get into some trouble in some of those areas. But, like, you know, we'll find a street with just, like, the zombie preparedness store. Yeah. We found that randomly. Nobody told us about it. No, and that is in an industrial area. Like that is in a very weird

It's a strange part of town A bunch of nondescript big block buildings with no signs on them And then the zombie preparedness With high fences I think around around that thing Yeah and they got like an old Jeep out front That's all banged up They got like Barbed fake barbed wire everywhere

It was awesome. So cool Did you go to the Zach Began's Audities Museum? Have you been out to that one in Vegas? I have not been to that yet You're talking about it made me want to check that out. Yeah, Tanner and Alex and Tina and I went to that, and that thing was creepy cool, but it would be right up your alley as far as like, I mean, there's, there's, you know,

your serial killer artifacts like, here's all the drawings that John Wayne Gacy did in jail. Like how many clowns he drew, and here's Charles Manson's blah, blah, blah, and so Ted Bundy's this and that. but then you've also got like here is a whole room full of creepy porcelain dolls yeah yeah I would like that you are speaking my language yeah it is it is it's worth checking out I know I know the the list of things that people are wanting to do in Vegas is extensive and jam-packed and I think some of you people are a little crazy for how much stuff you're trying to fit in it's like you're thinking this is a regular city where you can get from

place A to place B in two minutes. You cannot. No, you can't do it. But anyway, yeah, that's worth checking out the Zach Began's, what is it called? Audities and artifacts or something. It's just worth saying. But the Zach Began part, if I remember that, I'll find it, right? Yeah, if you remember Zach Began, yeah.

There's a place in Tijuana that I had to go to. I do not remember the name of this place, but when Kim and I went to Tijuana, it was a dog and pony show. Definitely wasn't that. But it was this shop. Everybody said, oh, you have to go there. And sure enough, it's like a lot of them

where they're just trying to sell you ridiculous stuff for stupid money. And then if you don't want it, they'll go down on price. And then it's all like most of Tijuana. But the stuff they had there was crazy cool. Cannot remember the name. But they had, like, actual shrunken heads.

At least they claim they were. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, they were heads. They were small. Do they come out of a human being? Were they previously attached to someone that was like, maybe not? That's kind of questionable, sure.

I'm pretty sure they weren't. Well, maybe. I don't know. That was what was great about Tijuana is everything felt like a little bit on the edge of real or vaguely legal. Like, really? You're going to sell me a Elvis's toilet seed he died on? That seems unlikely that it's here in Tijuana and that no one's had it before. but okay give me your sales pitch

I mean it was a lot of weird stuff like that but uh anyway uh dr nicky you're like us we like the weird stuff so you're not weird is what we're saying no not at all not at all here's what other people seek out somebody mentioned um local breweries

restaurants what other things people um seek out I think it's a comfort thing I think it's like oh I'm in this strange place it's new what's something that I'm familiar with and, you know, oddities kind of going to always be the same everywhere. You'll get a little more voodoo in the French corner than you will anywhere else. But, you know, a comic book is a comic book is a comic book, right?

Spider-Man looks the same in Dublin as he does in Tokyo, as he does in Schenectady, right? It's all the same. Yeah, no, I agree with that. You want to find the stuff that's going to make you feel, either you want to feel like you're seeing something you've never seen before or or or in combination with like oh they've got a McDonald's here wonder what that's like in Taiwan right I'm going to go eat in this Taiwanese McDonald's that's the best beef I ever had like there's that kind of thing going on I felt that way in China because I loved all the weird shit in China but man that McDonald's was good oh my gosh yeah no we

we had like our our friends uh in Australia when we went there uh took us to a McDonald's that had like one of their burgers was a beetroot burger and just had it was a regular quarter pounder I think with beats on it was like this is so different familiar that meat still tastes like McDonald's meat pink pink slime meat but it's got beetroot on it and it's weird I bet that sounds all right actually I could eat that it is really it's surprisingly good I mean you put pickles on burgers so why not beats picket beats yeah why not I say do it get your beetroot root on, everybody. Speaking of other places, let's talk from a Canadian point of view real quick. Sure. A local conductor resident Kenucklehead, Jeff Seyer. That's right. Cranky Canadian, Jeff

Sire. He's not that cranky. He's fine. No, but like their money, he has holes in him, too. He has absolutely, he's got holes. Let me tell you. Anyway, he says this. Scott and Brian, a story to continue the worst flight ever discussion from Wednesday. We talked about bad flights. he says in the 1990s I was a paratrooper in the Canadian Army well we salute you for your fine work for the Canadian Army that's right we were jumping in to start a winter exercise

this is a winter in Canada so we do not F around with how we dress big thick parkas mullock mouk muclux oh why is that k look funny mucklux is correct and big arctic mittens Just pictures, just big-ass mitten on.

Yeah, I was just picturing like, basically, he looks like that kid in a Christmas story who gets his tongue stuck to the pole. Yep, yep. Send us a photo. We'd love it. This is an addition to carrying our weapons, ammo, rucksacks, and snowshoes.

All of this kit is carried by each paratrooper and with their parachute, the average weight of each paratroopers, about 305 pounds. Notice he used pounds. I appreciate that. Wow. Wow.

305. Like, how does that affect the parachute's ability to help you descend at a slow rate? Well, and I assume the 305 includes, let's say, the paratrooper weighs 220. It's the weight of the dude, yeah. Yeah, weight of the dude plus the stuff. I hope they hold you. Anyway, we are doing contour flying for the two-hour flight of the drop zone or to the drop zone. This means that the C-130, this is the plane, flies as low as possible, so about $100,000.

to 200 feet off the deck to avoid detection by radar. So low-flying plane. So the two-hour flight feels like a roller coaster as you go up over hills and descend into valleys and follow frozen rivers. So here's where it gets gnarly. Okay. These flights are both tough at the best of times.

And unfortunately, our plane had its heater stuck on full blast. So we were roasting in there. The heat combined with our winter clothing that we cannot take off because we have parachutes on over top, combined with the roller coaster, got guys throwing up after about 20 minutes, it turned into the pie eating contest in Stand By Me. I just stared at my hands for two hours and was able to not puke. Well, that's what I've done for the last 15 years.

So good job. Just stare at your hands and not puke. That's right. I can't imagine that two hours of hearing everybody around you puking and smelling it and all that stuff. And of course, feeling the heat and the roller coaster ride of the air. plane and not puking, I think I'd be done. Yeah, I'd be done. Yeah, it's gnarly.

Says he finally went, his final note is this. That was my worst plane trip. On the plus side, I was never so happy to throw myself out of a plane into a blissfully cold air, says Jeff. I can't even imagine how, what a relief that must have been. Also, hats off just in general. This kind of shit, dude, I'm not built for this. I can't do this. It goes without saying you're stronger men than we are, Jeff, and thank you for doing what you do.

I can't do it. I couldn't do what you did. the Canadian army I'm sure that'll not make anybody mad nobody will write in for that one I'm kidding of course I have respect for all of the world's armies yeah all the armies and all the world's military but

you know well Canadians yeah Canadians we have to give you guys shit that's our job I have to give you guys shit it's just our job yes someone in the chat was confused as to whether we talked about OJ dying yes we talked about pre-show that's about all we're going to to mention him. Yeah.

OJ did it. That's all you have to know, right? Out of respect for we don't care. We're not going to mention him any further. Yeah. Although I got this question. Do you think he wrote like a note before he died that says? You think there's somewhere, you think there's somewhere like that, that, uh, that we're

going to discover in a vault or something, that little his confession saying, if something happens to me, I hope you find this message. But I basically want to make him, uh, talk about it. he'll be uh he'll be on his deathbed they'll have a my his son will have a microphone on him and he'll go before i go i just want to admit that naked gun was my favorite role and that's it that's all he'll admit to i faked one of my touchdowns i love that you've made him into Himbert. Why? Yeah, I don't know. Because if you've seen his videos on

Twitter, I haven't seen him, like I haven't gone out and followed them myself, but they play him on Howard Howard Stern all the time, like his goofy videos, hey, it's me O.J. Hey, Twitter Nation. And he basically

does that, that Hibbert laugh. Yeah, I found, actually, let's see what his last tweet was. Let's see if we can get one. Oh, okay. Um, all right. I don't feel so good. I'm not doing great. Okay, here we go. This is one from,

okay, he's just ate it a Panera bread. His last tweet before the death tweet that his family posted today was February 11th, so it's been a little time. He says this. Let's play it.

Here we go. Hey, X-World is me. Yours truly, boy, what a beautiful day it is here in Las Vegas. Even though the game is indoors, it wouldn't have mattered, but still, it's nice to have a beautiful, day like so it's just him talking about the super bowl yeah exactly it's ex nation now not twitter

nation ex nation f that dude eff it hey brian tell me about the ms 150 and why is it back i mean it's back because ms is still a thing and uh listen we're we're never going to cure ms but we can prevent it we can create ways of treating people who suffer from it and and mitigating the nerve issues that come with having ms my aunt suffers with those all the time we've got a lot of people actually in the in the tad pool who suffer uh with ms mava um mikey uh crap can't remember his last name um but mikey there's there's quite a few and this is a way that i can help um support efforts to uh raise awareness raise some money for ms research and i'm doing it again mikey newman thank you tvs travis uh so if you go to tiny dot c slash bike coverville 24 easy

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the, the, uh, Fort Collins 35 mile ride because I had the L4, L5, uh, spine issue or the, the, the back issue that I believe is good now. I've been doing my stretches every night before bed. We put on, basically I put on Celebrity Jeopardy and I do my stretches while I answer, uh, questions on Celebrity Jeopardy, because it makes me feel good, uh, to get every answer correct sure why not in that dumb down version of regular jeopardy um and uh getting prepared for that ride going out finally getting some weather again today supposed to be in the mid to high 60s and all through until monday so rides every day um for the next four or five days and then back

to riding inside the house after that nice nice and for those picturing brian on a bike riding through rooms in the house that is not what he means he means like on a bike no it is me projecting Apple TV plus fitness and the perennially rosy, cheerful, effing, smiling spin class instructors, basically that tell you, okay, well, we're listening to some Rihanna today, and now I want you to get a good, get a good pace going about 60 to 70 RPM on your bike and just some stretches. We're going to kind of ramp that up into an all-out and three hard level, blah, blah, blah, blah. Those people remind me of, what's his name on S&L that looks in the mirror and goes, people like me. Stuart Smalley, yes. I always think of McClurg, Edy McClurg in planes, trains, and automobiles is the car rental desk clerk.

Hi there. Gobble, gobble, gobble. Well, then you're effed, she says at the end. Exactly. Loved her. Which is how I feel by the end of those 30 to 45 minute rides. Well, that's great. Go get it, guys, tiny.ccccc slash bike coverville 2024.

It's like last year's except with a four at the end. But the four at the end. Yeah. It's not hard. It's not hard. It's not hard. It's like, can I just say, you know, it was less than two minutes of posting, like creating my tiny URL and getting a post.

I posted it on Facebook and in our, in our discord. Jeannie's getting it out to places. But within, within two or three minutes of me, even creating the tiny URL, Dr. Colbert, Jerry Tolbert, just the Prince Among Men made the first massive donation to the cause. So, Jerry, you're the best. He's pretty great. You're the best around. No one is ever going to let you down.

He's pretty great. He doesn't just remotely diagnose medical issues for us here on the show. That's right. Yes. He also puts his money where his mouth is. And his mouth right now is firmly on MS. So thank you. Not worded the best.

But anyway, you're great. We love you. and everybody who is contributing. So go check it out. Tiny.cc.c. slash bike Coverville 2024. I was surprised, by the way, that he didn't correct me or not correct me, but tell me, oh, yeah, Brian, we moved from calling them STDs to STIs back in 2000, something, something.

But the same day that I was like, oh, really? We call them STIs now instead of STDs. Jimmy Kimmel had the same joke on his show of like, I guess, you know, we call them STIs instead of STDs now, so because we want to confuse every day. everybody. Anyway, there's the super gunnery in China, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I didn't know about that either, for the record. So, I mean, I don't, never had an STD or an STI. No, no. I had a GTI, GTI, uh, Volkswagen, Volkswagen Rabbit GTI. Oh, yeah, yes, right. Love that. I love that car. But that's the one that got stolen by the drug addict who worked for my dad, and then my dad went and found him on the floor and saved his life.

Remember that whole story? I've told that story before. That was that guy. I never got that car. back. We saved his life. We didn't save the car. He sold it for drugs, we think, so it's fine. It's all, look, that was a long time ago, folks. I don't, I don't hold a grudge on that. And I think that guy's probably better off now. I don't actually know where he is, but all I know is it was the right thing for my dad to do at the time. Well, absolutely. You don't still get a, uh, a Christmas card every year like the, uh, the protagonist and the, uh, Chuck Polonic book, choke. No. No. No. I'd love that, though. Merry Christmas.

Thanks again for your dad's making sure I didn't die. Yeah. See you next year. All right. We got some news to do, and we're going to do it now. Today's news is brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville. Today, there will be a Coverville episode for Dave Perner.

Dude is turning 60, and you know him as the lead singer for the band's solo. Finally, Brian gets out of doing these, like, old farts like Richard Thompson and Nick Lowe and Eric Carmen, Slide in the Filming Stone. No, we're doing something, at least we've made it into the 90s, folks. Soul Asylum, you're probably familiar with things like runaway train, black gold, somebody to shove, and you'll hear covers of all of those as well as some of the covers that Soul Asylum has done as well. Did you know they did a cover of sexual healing by Marvin Gay? No. No? Well, you're going to hear it today.

Oh, my gosh. That's a weird one, isn't it? It is a weird one. All right. We'll take it, though. Let's make love tonight. Sexual healing. Because you do it right.

All right. All right. Well, we got a, this one's funny. You know what? This is for you, Dr. Tolbert, this one here. Excellent. The headline is, quote, mostly felt like a speed bump, says U.S. man on getting vasectomy amid the earthquake that happened last week.

Oh, geez. Yeah. He was the. I'd say, you get, feel free to stop until this is over. Yeah, that's what I would say. I guess they didn't know what was going on, but he was in Jersey, New York area where they had that earthquake. And he says he was the one guy getting to vasectomy at the exact moment it hit.

And this is what happened. Justin Allen from Horsham, Pennsylvania. That's where all the American vampires are station. That's their headquarters is Pennsylvania. This was exactly, an exact reality on Friday when the New York city metropolitan area and its outskirts were shaken by a 4.8 quake. The earthquake was centered near Lebanon, New York, or sorry, New Jersey, according to the U.S. geological survey, though people reported feeling its effects across New York, Connecticut,

Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania. He says, quote, I thought maybe a train was passing by or just something had happened in the office. And when the doctor was like, I think that's an earthquake, I figured he was messing with me. But he had to stop because everything was shaking. Okay, good. He didn't stop. He says he put the tools down for a moment, he says.

Well, okay. That's not long enough for me, but fine. You put it down for a moment. He says, we talked about how we'd never forget where we were at that moment. We'll always remember where we were during this shake, during the New Jersey earthquake. We'll always have this vasectomy to remember. You've always, you had your hands on my penis during the New Jersey earthquake. That's right.

According to the Mayo Clinic, many vasectomy procedures are done using local anesthesia, which means the patient will be awake and have a medicine to numb the surgical area. I think we all kind of knew that. If an earthquake during such a sensitive procedure concerned him, he showed pure bravery. He wasn't afraid at all. He said I wasn't really worried because he had walked me through every step of the procedure. So I almost felt like a brief speed bump. And we were mostly just calm and laughing as the room shook, he explained.

Well, it's a good thing this wasn't like that Taiwan. Earth, or no, Thailand. Thailand, Taiwan, Thailand. Where was it? I mean, that's, uh... Thailand, right? Taiwan, maybe. Oh, shoot.

One of the T's. Yeah, I'm not, I don't know. I can't, uh, I'm not going to go one way or the other because I cannot remember for sure. And, uh, Tad's saying Taiwan. I just don't remember. Taiwan. Yeah. I hope that was right.

That earthquake was made in Taiwan. Anyway, it's not, it says, uh, for now, uh, for now, uh, for now, uh, uh, for now, uh, Everything turned out gray to feel about as good as I possibly can when the numbing started to wear off. When the quake's impact seemed to have been minimal as of Friday morning, it's not like it's going to be something Ellen will forget anytime soon. He fired off a tweet shortly after the quake was felt, sharing his inconvenient locale with the masses. It quickly went viral. Great.

That's what they do. So this interview took place while he was recovering from the numbness. Like this is moments after the surgery was completed, basically. They jumped right on it, dude. They were like, you know what? This story's not going to not going to be here forever. Let's get our best people on it. Exactly. Let's get this guy's 15 minutes after his previous 15 minutes.

Perfect. Yeah. Well, good luck to him and I'm sure it's okay after all that. It was a very minor. Like when I had mine done, it was such a minor deal. Like I said, the worst part of it was smelling the smoke from the cotterization of the of the Vaz deference. Yep. Yep.

Kim had to have the female thing done and because they, yeah, she had to do it. It was from other reasons. And I went, oh, well, this is good. This means I don't have to get the thing done. And she says, yeah, I guess it does. And I said, and this is the joke where I keep bringing up and she hates it. I go, and if the world ends tomorrow and they need somebody to help repopulate the human beings on this planet, I'll still have the goods to get it done. She always slaps me in the arm.

She's like, you're not doing that. I doubt my count's very good these days anyway, if you know what I'm saying. Right. Yeah. That wasn't too much of a euphemism. I know what you're saying. Yeah, you know exactly what I'm saying. Let's talk about this one. The world's oldest man says the secret to his longevity is luck plus regular fish and chips. All right. Okay. World's oldest man. Luck and fish and chips. That's right. He says, is luck moderated.

which they didn't put in the headline, and Fish and Chips every Friday. This is Englishman John Alfred Tenniswood. Tenniswood. I love that. Sounds like a special golf club I can only use in a certain way. That's right. Exactly, yes. Oh, uh, Caddy, can you hand me my tennis wood, please?

I need to get out of this patchy. That's a great name. He's 111. That's pretty good. That is pretty good. He has, let's see, has been confirmed as the new holder of the title by Guinness World Records. It follows the death of the Venezuelan record holder Juan Vincent Perez. Just this month died at the age of 114.

Ginzaburo Sinobi from Japan, who is also the next longest lived, died March 31st, so just recently at 112. Man, how were all these record holders dying? What do you think is the comments? You know what? Vaccines. It's a vaccine. The vaccine, man. Vaxed, question mark.

Hashtag vaccine. I hate when people do. do that so much. Some of them do it as a joke and those I can respect of it. Everybody else who does it unironically. I didn't know where the joke was. I think was it uh, geez. It was like somebody

somebody made the joke of, uh, God, you hear the world's oldest man died at the age of 114. Oh no. How did he die? I love it. I love it. It's like what, like what are they going to say? Oh, it was a it was a brief battle with motorcycle accident is terrible yeah actually if I was 114 and I somebody said oh his breathing is dropping whatever I'm like quick get me on a motorcycle I'm gonna drive this off a cliff I don't want to be I don't want this chocked up to old age I want this to be a he died he died how he lived yeah motorcycle breathing into the Grand Canyon exactly even if it wasn't really the way I died I love that idea do that for me everybody Brian real quick I have an update this is um Oh, please, yes.

From the other day, we were talking about the eclipse and the Google searches, everybody trying to, now we have some visual data. Check out this, map. Yeah, I know. The purple for those, so this is much more visual. The purple is people searching for my eyes hurt on that day. And it also happens to be the exact stripe and solar path of the eclipse for the most intense version. of the eclipse.

I mean, you cannot, you cannot have more evidence of idiots looking at the sun. And it's funny because the Google search, I guess they just have to give you a week, right? Google search volume. There probably wasn't a whole lot of searching for eyes hurt from April 3rd to April 7th. Correct. It was all April 8th and after. And they were saying actually that in the places where there's totality, that is the one time you can actually look directly at the sun without, without eye protection,

but only for like a few seconds and then you better be wearing eye protection when the sun starts coming out from around the other side. So right when it's at, it's full corona, like... Yeah, that's the one time they were saying it's safe for you to do it

for that little brief, brief moment. My neighbor was in somewhere south, he went south, and he got a shot with his... I couldn't believe it's just a freaking iPhone. I wish I had that. I'll ask him to text it. Maybe he can do it before the show's over.

but basically he's got a dead on shot of the corona and you can see on the outside little jumping flames from the sun behind it like little arcs and what they call those um flare solar flares just little shoo shoo all the way around like little hairs it's so cool with his iPhone freaking iPhone it was with his iPhone he was getting it

yeah pretty good anyway yeah yeah so right from NASA during a total solar eclipse except during the brief total phase of a total solar eclipse when the moon completely blocks the sun's bright face it is not safe to look directly at the sun without specialized eye protection for solar viewing so except during the brief total phase of the total solar eclipse so yeah um which i don't know how long that actually lasts but uh sure and that's probably you know the news saying that or nassas saying that or whoever saying that is uh is probably what you know people will have people will say like well

it was kind of partially, but it still really stung my eyes like, well, yeah, you looked at it during the phase where it was starting to come around from the other side. So maybe you just tell everybody, because they're idiots. Always wear glasses. Amish Overlord says, they're not solar flares? What are they? They called something else? I thought there were

solar flares on the edges. Oh, really? They're, I thought that's what the little is. Isn't that what those little hairs are? Not hairs, but little jump and leap and flame looking things. I don't know what they are. Anyway, someone will clear that up. Bobby's here. He'll look it up.

Sun flames. Sun flames. Flaming sun! It sounds like a drink. The suns and the flames. I'll have a flaming sun and make it a double. That's what they say. Let's move on to this story.

Oh, so anyway, that guy's... Chris says technically they're called solar hairs. Get out. Shut up. You've got to be pulling our way. He's making that up. He has to be, right? Yeah, I think so.

Okay. I don't believe him. Yeah, mass ejections. That's not it. Okay, good. Chris is just kidding. Yeah, we thought so. That looked like, like bullshit. Yeah, sounds like bullshit. He says this. By the way, I forgot to mention this. This guy was born in 1912. That makes him just a few months shy of the sinking of the Titanic when he was born. Just a few days after it sank. He lived to two World War, serving in the British Army, Pay Corps in the World War II, in the big war there. the C. Which was the Great War? Was World War I the Great War? Or was that the war to end all wars? I mean, were any of them great, Scott. I mean, they were none of them. If I'm being honest, I give them each like a two, maybe a three on Yelp max. The service was horrible. The, uh, oh,

coronal mass ejections are real. Okay. That's the thing, Caducey says. Corona mass ejections. CME. Oh, yeah, you know, you're CME, Scott. Oh, you're regular old CMEs, right? It's a pretty much your basic CME. Right. You're a clotted monkey erection. Let's move on to, oh, and then I was going to say he retired. He was an accountant. He's a great grandfather. He says the fish and chips are the thing that does it. So my guess is none of this does it. He's just an outlier. That's what I'm going to say.

These people that live forever, they live a really long time, everyone thinks there's some magic trick to it. There's never is. It's just an outlier. That's the whole point. If it was fish and chips, there are a bunch of British people

that would have lived longer than they did if they ate fish and chips every Friday. He's an outlier. That's all it is. He's an outlier, exactly. It's still fried food. It's still probably not the best for you, but yeah.

Yeah. So there you have it. He's still alive. So good luck to him. But I love me some good fission chips, so I'm going to take his advice, even though I know it's fraudulent. That's true. Sierra Leone has declared emergency after attics have dug up graves to get high on drugs made from human bones. Oh, no. Yeah, this one's weird.

A psychoactive drug crafter from human bones is leaving addicts in the Western African country of Sierra Leone, digging up graves in order to get their fix. This is according to the BBC. That's the British Broadcasting. corporation or company. What is it? I don't know which one. I don't know. The haunting menace has for Sierra Leone to declare a national

emergency. Police officers in Freetown are guarding cemeteries to thwart the disturbing practice of exhuming skeletons for the zombie drug production. Zombies in quotes, I guess they call it that. Notably the drug dubbed Cush is made from a variety of toxic substances and one of its main ingredients being

ground up human bone. There's a, you know, sorry guys, there's already a drug with the nickname Cush. So you guys need to come up with something new. Yeah, what is Cush? Cush is a variant of marijuana, isn't it? I don't know. I'm going to look it up. Or a

strain. Cush Cannabis. So you're right. It's a variation or something. Yeah, a strain. Here we go. Or is it just a nickname for it? Like, we're going to go and smoke some Cush. Here it is. Spend too much time

shopping for cannabis, strains or products. find names like Cush. Cush is one of several building block strains that have been used to breed an entire family of strains and hybrid cannabises. Let's see, where does the strain come from? What is Cush? Scanning some of the most picturesque areas of Afghanistan. Okay, so it's like primal weed.

It's like early, more primal form of weed. Like your Neanderthal weed? Is that what we're looking at here? Yeah. I'm sure this is probably powerful. O.G. Cush. Oh, you're still talking about the marijuana. Yeah.

The bone cush. Bubba Cush. You want some Bubba Cush? Check this out, Brian. Oh, Talley says it's a strain of, I'm sorry, it's a family of strains. Yeah. I don't know. How does Tali an expert on?

Also, Talley, read on air light for Talley. Tally, we already said, I read the thing she said. So she's late to the party here. Oh, I thought we were seeing the same. was a strain, but she was saying, she was correcting that it's a family of strains. Yeah, that's what I read that earlier. Did you actually just say that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it doesn't. I'll join Talley in that red on airlight because I was

Let's see, BioCow says Cush is real good, is it now? Is it, Biocow? He's just singing Cush it real good. Bubba Cush is another highly popular Cush Strain available crafted by grower named Matt Bubba Berger from some northern light seeds of Cush plant. The strain was a major

hit in the 90s in Los Angeles and sparked what high times describes as the Cush Crays. Bubba Cush. Bubba Cush. I love that, dude. That's freaking amazing. Well, geez, Talleycom, easy and easy now. Yeah. I got to quit looking at the chat

and they kill me every day. All right, moving on to this story. What time is it? Oh, we got time for one more here. One more? Good. Let's get one more here. Don't be snorting bones, though. Human bones is bad. Yeah, exactly. That seems it seems like it's a weird late time to discover that you can get

high from crushing up human bones like how has this not been found before how has nobody figured out that you can exhum a body crush the bones do something else to them and then have a have a drug yeah I guess this probably is just like a filler right like what else would the bones do or act as and why couldn't you find another filler like dirt

or cement or what's like bone uh I guess you can't consume those other things. You'd have to have something you can consume and your body can process and the human bone could be potentially in the right form. You could eat it.

Just like animal bones. I'll eat me a little bone here and there. Yeah, yeah. It's good. Like the inside of a bones, okay? And if you chew a bone up, like dogs eat bones. They don't die, you know. Well, they eat chicken bones.

Yeah, they get chicken bones. You can't give them certain kinds of bones you can't give them. So chicken bones, bird bones have any kind, right? That's what I've been told to avoid with dogs. Yeah. Chicken bones, splinter. What was the other one you said? Any sort of poultry bone is bad. Turkey bones. Those are all bad. But if you do beef, you're okay, right? Little beef. I think beef bones are good. Your beef bones are okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, I could go for a steak right now.

I really could. That sounds amazing. Did, uh, did Kim, excuse me, did Kim make a big old bowl of, uh, jambalaya for a big old, uh, A pot of John Blanche. She left us all the ingredients, so Carter and I just have to figure it out and make it. She was going to make it. She ran out of time, got busy. We had a soccer game last night. I trust that Carter will make this happen.

Yeah, she'll do great. It's all vegetarian, too, so she'll be able to enjoy it. We're going to have a great time. Excellent. Thanks. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. My sister, Wendy, will join the fray. And we got somebody who wrote in about their whole scapegoat thing.

So apparently they sent it before, but it went to spam. So I appreciate them resending it. I don't know why I went to spam. I mean, she used the, sorry, this person used the word, let's see. Oh, I see Nigerian Prince. Oh, that's why. That's probably what happened. Yeah, you shouldn't have done that part where it said PS Nigerian Prince.

That was bad. Anyway, that's coming up after this break. Brian, to break, we need a song. So I guess you'll have to provide that. And a quick clarification, IMAC head says that dogs can eat raw chicken bones. So it's the cooked ones that splinter and can cause problems. iMac had um raw chicken bones when would you have yeah so like if you're cutting the chicken up like to to um to part it out to you know make some boneless chicken meal and you have those bones

before they get because those won't be those won't be brittle enough to just cause splinters and cause problems because they get brittle when you cook them right yeah that was the idea okay no i had no i did that's that's that's we do that all the time and just throw it away we thought you couldn't Play it safe. Get your milk bones. This episode of TMS brought to you by Milk Bones. Excellent. Milkbones are here for you.com. Let's do nothing. Hey, how about a brand new single from a brand new artist? This is from the UK. This is a singer by the name of Baron Olivia, and it's B-E-R-E-N. So neither of those vowels in the way that you might think Baron is spelled. B-E-R-E-N-O-Livia. This is a brand-new single. It's called She'll Be Dancing.

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And I see that she is not answering. No, no. But, you know, how it goes. Sometimes she's just a little slow to the... She's getting to the phone. She's taking the dog out or something. And she's getting there. She's getting there.

Yeah, and we're not really a professional effort here. We just kind of wing it every day. It's not like, you know, we don't have standards. Really? Not really. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, as soon as she gets here, we'll get that going. And big thanks to everybody who, uh, since she asked for it has been sending

an emails about this, but we're definitely going to do this one given that they waited an extra week. Yeah, yeah. It's something that we asked people to submit their own feedback about, so this is great. That's right.

She no pick up. Let me try texting her. I give her a text. You think, God, you're lucky. Yeah, I would love that. I don't want to do anything. Oh, listen to that. I heard the throat clear.

Hold on. We got to play this. this right here. Where is it? Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. Hello, Wendy. Welcome back to the show for Therapy Thursday. How are you? Hi, good. Can you hear it? Oh, you can. You're on a very different mic. You're definitely on a room. Like you're a room mic. You almost sound like you're a room away or something.

It's because, you know, it's hooked to my phone and I can't find that phone. You're like, oh, that's what it is. We're on your, we're on your phone. So that's good news. And you don't know where your phone is. How can I be that far away from it? Here's the good news, Wendy. The phone is somewhere near you because we can hear you. Should we, gosh. You can hear that and I mean it's on the table.

It's got to be somewhere like, it's far enough from your voice that it feels like it's at least five, six feet away from you. Yeah. Maybe, all right, so maybe keep talking. We'll tell you when you're getting louder or quieter and we'll, we'll, it sounds. I echo locate your phone to you. You sound further right now. Okay, good. That means I'm going to get back to this room.

Yep, you're definitely coming closer now. Yeah. You guys, what is happening right now? We're not that many places for it to go. Just for the record, Wendy's the most organized person I've ever known in my life. And that's the truth. It sounds like this thing might be buried under three pots, a phone book, and a... Oh, you guys, all you needed to say was buried.

was in the drawer it was in the drawer it was in the drawer the drawer the drawer the whole time oh my gosh i've never put a phone in a drawer that i'm aware of maybe i'd have i don't know uh terrible are you on that same mic or where where are you now where are you talking into you now you're like calling from candahar because double tap what you think is the microphone yeah i don't hear it so i think you're on anything yeah yeah it's still not oh how's that uh say something again. Let's see it again. Hi, how's it going? That's better. That's way better. Yeah, I think now you're on the,

now you're on the microphone you think you're on. Discord is just taking a minute to figure things out. I will solve this. I will solve this before next time. I apologize. It's all good. I think that made for some fun content. Until then you call and they're like, crap. I'll not fix that. It's all good. Look, we're going to make you a scapegoat. Get it? It's part of today's theme.

Yeah, clever. Very clever. Wendy, of course, here every Thursday to do some therapy. She is an actual therapist, and we're all just a bunch of slubs getting help for free. And we're excited to see you in Vegas in a couple of weeks. Very exciting. Misha kind of forgot that that's what we were doing. It was so

funny because we were talking to her about lunch or something with a get together, and she calls Kim and goes, yeah, so we're doing it on this night, and Kim goes, Misha, we're going to be in Vegas that weekend, and so are you. And she's like, oh! Oh, I forgot.

You are having a meetup, but it's not going to be at the place you think it is. It's going to be in Vegas. Or in the state you think it is. She giggled pretty hard, which you know how great Misha is when she laughs. It's a hilarious thing. I love it so much. It's like ASMR for our family. Anyway, let's get to this thing.

We'd ask for somebody who felt like they were kind of a scapegoat in their family situation. And we got somebody who actually wrote when you asked them to, but the thing got lost in spam and I got a new version of it. So we are going to read that one. This is from somebody we'll call Style. And here's what they say. Scott, Brian and Wendy, my youngest brother was always the scapegoat growing up. I am the middle of three boys, and my youngest brother is six years younger than I am. The older brother was the genius, and I was the athlete.

I love these labels. Everyone gets them. Yeah. While we definitely had our... Breakfast club. Yeah, exactly. I didn't even think of that. So we're just missing a couple here, but we got breakfast club.

We need the basket case. we need the princess we need uh who's the other one the nerd no he was the genius yeah he was the genius the oh the rebel or the the the troublemaker the uh the bender yeah everybody needs a bender anyway while we uh definitely had our instances of screw-ups my younger brother definitely bore the brunt of failing uh in our shadow or falling in our shadow at the same time he wore the mantle of youngest and therefore perennally the baby well uh very well and still does A strange thing happened when he graduated high school and continued screwing up in college and beyond. My parents started blaming my brother and me for his shortcomings.

He was no, boy, this is a compounding. No kidding. He says, let's see, he was no longer the scapegoat. My parents turned their attention to him and began coddling him, making excuses for him, trumping up his achievements, etc. It was a strange time being a grown adult and having my parents tell me that I should do more to help. him, even though he lived hundreds of miles away and never really listened to me anyway. My older brother and I still marvel over how they fawn over him. Anyway, a longer answer than you probably wanted.

Bottom line, my younger brother or youngest brother was the scapegoat growing up. Sounds like maybe they are now. So that's an interesting reply because it's got layers. But does that give you what you need to take us down the path? All right. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah, the redirection is a very interesting aspect of this.

like basically saying all right now we think his problems are because of you two yeah yeah it's very weird all right is what do you want to do it so here's let's just start with the fundamental honest and easy to understand impulse parents have with over identifying with their children's behavior accomplishments status whatever right um and it's It's not until the first time you taste that thing of like someone says your kid's awesome at something or you get vicarious praise. This is why, you know, we are real harsh towards parents and we blame them for things. Like, oh, we're not going to talk about this, but, you know, that shooter whose parents are

now being sentenced to prison. Oh, libel for his. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great example of like, well, it's their fault. And we're real quick to do that. So when the opposite happens, like, oh, I get the credit for how wonderful my child is or

their grades or whatever that thing, it's a really alluring experience, I think, because parenting is hard work and there's a lot of time, effort, money, sacrifice that goes into it. And so a kid that makes you look good and feel good, feels great. So we often have golden children, right? So we're all familiar with that term, right? This is the kid that does no wrong. And when we really break down a golden child, sometimes what we find is the golden child has either two tendencies. One is it really works hard to kind of help manage the family's emotions.

And then sometimes they don't try it all. They just accomplish a lot. And that accomplishment is enough to make the family feel or the parents feel like they're good parents. So you might have like an oldest daughter is a very common golden child that actually. actually has a lot of labor that they do in a family. And so they're making everyone look good and getting perfect grades and all that. And that can really switch later. So this switch is actually really interesting because it's not uncommon for a switch to occur.

If you stop playing a certain role. So golden children can lose their golden status. Scapegoats, interestingly, usually don't get to choose. So this kid got the brother got away with something here. Okay, so let's just define what scapegoating is, right? Do you guys familiar with the biblical story? It's kind of the original use of these two words. Oh, no, I didn't.

I was always wondering where it came from. I always just assumed there was just the goat who was kind of a pud in the group. It was a goat in the village. They got blamed for everything. Yeah. Maybe it's close to that. I don't know. Yeah, it starts with essentially like, I'm trying to remember.

I read, I looked it up because I couldn't remember exactly, but the idea that the culture, the whole group in the Old Testament. So let's see. Oh, where it was. Anyway, but the idea was that you would sacrifice a goat during a holiday. It's in the Hebrew ball. Oh, so Book of Litigas there was. Okay.

So during this celebration, you would sacrifice a goat and by throwing it off, you know, a club or something. and they symbolically would have all the sins of the community upon it, right? It was this day of, you know, essentially we are free from the guilt of the things we've all been doing and we're putting it all onto this goat that got chucked over a cliff. Or later, the throat was slit and, you know, the blood and all that stuff, right? So that concept is that goat was the scapegoat. And it comes from some other word, I forget.

Anyway, but at some point in like the early 200s, or 1900s, some researchers and social scientists and stuff started using that term of scapegoating to connect it to lots of bigger things. So we have a couple of, and it's pretty early on like 1920, you know, so it's been around for a minute. But this idea, there's a couple different versions of it. So there's one-on-one, which is like one person blaming another for something that they did. So this, you might see this maybe like a child blaming a sibling or a friend for something that they did in order to avoid getting in trouble or avoid the shame or disappointing their parents, right? So one-on-one. Then you have the one-on-group. Some of these are going to sound familiar as we keep going.

The one-on-group type of scapegoating is where one person blames an entire group, Hitler, for a problem that they did not cause or, you know, that kind of thing. So this can obviously escalates, you know, more death, all those kinds of things that are very problematic. Okay. And then scapegoating can also be group on one. And this is kind of where a family, maybe you would consider a family dynamic, but a group of people single out and blame one person for the problem. Yeah. And so that may be, you know, the baskets missed in the last few minutes of the game. And it's that person's fault when really everyone else missed baskets through.

out the game or whatever. Right, yeah, just because that first guy did it. Yeah, he just did it the wrong time. And then it could be group on group. So that's really where your, your racial tension or your political tension or parties, that kind of thing, blaming whole groups of people for whatever is going on. Right, right. Okay.

And so essentially, we'll just give a nice Freud definition. It's where you're displacing. your own stuff or even your hostility just onto, you know, an acceptable target, but you hold it against an unacceptable target. So for example, your parents or your boss have a lot of power, right? And so you can't just direct that onto them, even though you're, because you're feeling like you're failing or you're not measuring up or you're going to get fired or whatever. And you would not go scream at them, but what would you do? Well, you'd take it out while you're driving or kick the dog or whatever those kinds of things, right?

Right, yeah. So there's kind of the basic of it. And so when you put this in a family context, you can see how problematic this gets, right? So a family scapego, essentially is just like the family's projection onto one person. And the projection is the responsibility for any unresolved problems, any weird dynamics. So I see this a lot in terms of couples with infidelity. And this isn't always the case. Alcoholism is a really commonplace where this will happen.

So the parents are struggling with addiction or the parents are struggling with infidelity or really bad communication or other toxic behaviors. And where does all of that shame, guilt, anger, you know, where does it go? And so real quick, where do you think it would go? Scapegoating obviously is where I'm leading here. But where else could that go? What else would happen? Well, like, okay, so we'll give me a scenario where I'd have to answer that.

Like if you've got a family problem that would. Yeah, let's say you've got a really rebellious black sheep in the family. And so therefore, all our problems stem from them. They are the scapegoat. We are going to put it all on them. Is that a acceptable version of this story? Well, so hold on. Aside from scapegoating.

So. Yeah, yeah. And really quick, why is this kid rebelling? right and so that's that's the original question that might so let's do that the there's some infidelity okay okay somebody mom stepped out on dad and now they're keeping it low key no one gets to know and we're just going to plow through here so then what do you do with that kind of who should who should be the scapegoat there you're saying no just what do you do with it what do you do with it cam was cheating on with you what would you do what would I do

Docs the hell out of that cat I don't know what I do I don't know I don't know what I do So with regard You're talking about like with regard to The kids the Or or the relationship

I'm not sure Yeah do you mean I'm blaming it on the person I hadn't had the affair with Is that what you mean? Yeah Okay so here's him yeah Or that she had the affair with right Right Wait what?

I met I meant I meant I meant I the other way. So if she's having the affair, am I using that guy that she had the affair with as the scapegoat in this case? I'm putting it on him. It would be like this. What would be healthy? You guys, what's the healthy answer to this question? Why don't you just tell us what you want us to say? It's not who should I scapegoat? No, no, no, no. The answer is you deal with it, right? The answer is you get help. You like, you're the alcoholic. Kim cheated on you. We got two major problems. that come from lots of sources, they need exploring, they need healing, you need to work this out, right?

Honesty, communication, all those things. That would be the healthy version. Then it doesn't need to go anywhere. Right. But when it doesn't get treated, nobody gets help. It all gets put in boxes. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, sorry. I'm, I didn't know. For whatever reason, I was thinking therapy was coming later in the results. Like, what does the, what is the human's natural tendency to do when? these things happen as opposed to right that is what I'm getting at too but I realize we should start with healthy first okay yeah that's the healthy here's a book on him darn it's like Bruce Willis's character was dead the whole movie done all right goodbye Wendy just kidding all right go hi good to see you yeah yeah that's the sorry I was not communicating that well I then if you think of what people

don't do well they don't go get the help and where does that stuff go so often when I'm talking to people we can we'll go a little bit into their family history if they know about any and we can go back a couple generations and everyone will say something similar. They'll say, well, my great-grandfather was really bad at us. And then we've gotten more mellow through the generations, but I'm finding I still struggle with that anger, right? So I don't beat my children like my great-grandpa did. But we had his children, then raised children, then raised children, then raised children. And so everyone does a little bit better, but maybe no one ever really dealt with how harmful that was to experience and then how that infected their

parenting, right? So the buck stops with you because you're the current one alive and so you have all these hard things happen. And then you get a kid. And this is not 100% of the time, but very often I find that the scapegoat is just the most honest participant. And or, so that's not the only case. And I don't know about our email or if that's exactly the case, but sometimes the most honest member of the family meaning they are the truth tailor they just sort of publicly say our family's not like that they're not following maybe the rules of things so scott we have a scapegoat in our family her name was Tara yeah right she got scapegoated constantly massive family dysfunction that was projected onto her she sure uh showed a lot of things that made all of us

it was she was easy to be the scapego yeah very very very very easy Target, for sure. Yeah. Very hard to deal with and different things like that. And so I think our parents did a pretty good job trying to deal with it and getting therapy for whoever needed it and helping. And, you know, but the reality is she took a lot of time and energy, right? And so I'm looking at this email and I'm thinking, okay, so here's this younger brother who was just, you know, screwing up.

So there was a genius and an athlete. So what is it, what's the definition of a screw up? Those are strong words. They are very strong words, yeah. Very blankety too. Well, and it also makes you feel like you have no control over it as that person, as the person labeled as the screw up. You know, like you feel like you're, you know, you're condemned to be that forever going forward. Yeah, even the positive labels growing up, those stick in a way that aren't always positive.

It's like, okay, enough with I'm the creative one. You're the smart one. out of the family. It's like, oh, I don't really want to be the, forever be the Boy Scout. Yeah, that was Misha. I was the only child, so I got every label. You got all the labels. I know. I could not shift any of them. I got all the blame and I got every single label. He's like, Brian, you, you smart jerk. They'd say. Exactly. And you're the cause of all our problems. Yeah. Right. We're going to put it on your shoulders and also make us proud because you do make us proud.

Yeah. So that really deep need to please your parents. is really strong. So you take three boys, clearly with three different strengths, and there is some comparing going on. So the genius means you never have to help him with his homework, right? So look how easy that is. Or the athlete means you get to go to these fun games and see your kid excel and feel good and other parents want to be you or whatever, right? And then the other kids probably just like doing whatevs.

And it's just not those two things. It doesn't live up to either of the, yeah. Yeah. Maybe it'd be different, right? So there is the, the sort of set up. And here's the thing that's happening. The two boys getting attention is parental acceptance and feels like love, right? That's why this final sentence of my older brother and I still marvel how they fawn over him. They were raised in a certain watching this brother not get the good stuff. They were getting because they were earning it. Right. And this other kid was not earning it. Right. Right.

And then they graduate and as things, you know, now parents have flipped their attention to him, make excuses, because they are now having an adult child that doesn't make them look as good and they've just switched a tactic. So now it's their fault that their brother isn't doing better. Probably because the scapegoat at some point said, hey, you always made me feel like crap and my brother's made them feel better. So who do we blame? We don't blame Mama and dad.

Not them. They didn't do it. We're going to blame the brothers for being so capable. Yeah. Right? Do you think there's a big factor here with the age range, like the six year difference? Does that make a difference? Like, because you've got this final kid.

He's a lot younger than the rest of you. Six years is a lot when you're a kid. And because of that, it's just like they're an easy target. And unless they really blow everybody's mind, it's like, you just can't, I don't know how you win if you're the young one. Right. Right. Because you and the older two brothers have had a lot of time to achieve to, you know, to impress the parents and be the jock, be the genius. And the youngest, the six-year younger brother just doesn't have, hasn't had that opportunity yet. Right. Right. So he's always behind, always trying. And yet, you know, might just be a really

different kid, right? So athlete, genius. What's the third category? Mom and I would have thought was great. And could that kid have gotten there? Well, maybe not. You don't know, right? So let me just go briefly through how a child can be chosen as the family scapego. Is sometimes, I mean, kind of if we look at like categorically, a parent may find a fault in a child that maybe isn't very capable at school, right? So if they're not as smart as a sibling or just not as smart as the family would like them to be,

or they don't help out in sort of that way, then they may be chosen as the scapego. So they're a parents. So a child may just have, be cuter, right? Or not. And then, I mean, it sounds so superficial, right? You're like, what? But sometimes that's part of it. And again, if you think of just like the accolades, oh, that's, you're the pretty one.

How many, how many of our ladies are listening to this? Oh, yeah, my sister was the pretty one. Yeah. I've heard that. Nothing you feel like you can do about that sort of thing. No. No. Okay.

Then the reminder of this, you know, this, whoever this child is, it reminds of us a previous scapegoats. So maybe that one uncle, you know, or the parent. Maybe there's a parent conflict in the relationship and it reminds you of that thing you can't stand about your husband or wife or maybe there's a divorce and, oh, you remind me of them, you know. So sometimes that scapegoatism can just be that you're more similar to a previous scapegoat. So behavior, I think Terrick definitely was in this category of just making lots of mistakes getting in lots of trouble.

Yeah. It was easy, too, to, I mean, I'll admit to this. When she was doing that, when she was at her high point of doing that, it felt like it was also some pretty good cover, some good screen cover for the rest of us. Nobody was doing anything bad. But like if we, it was easy to go, well, I may have gotten a next. F, but she's doing way worse. I'm not her. I'm not that bad.

You know what I mean? Right. I definitely felt that growing up with her. Right. Yeah. She, and that's a really good definition of a scapegoat. She gave cover for the rest of us to just be ourselves a little bit.

And we, it's hard, really hard to, it's easy to please parents where one kid is behaving so badly. Right. Yeah. Versus a family of, seven where everyone are concert pianists right like no those are parents that are hard to

hard to please yeah um okay another one um that might be how a scapegoat is chosen is uh some just the parents anxiety right feeling unable to be a good parent sure and sometimes they give up trying and it's the kid's fault kind of thing um illness or just kind of a a sick mentally or physically child can lead to the stigma that makes them sort of chosen as the scapegoat, and then a desire to protect others, you know, these kids who maybe want to protect other kids can be scapegoated. So that's kind of the person who stands up to the bully and then everyone bullies them or some version of that, right?

And this is kind of my thing about the truth tellers. So, you know, I worked with their family for a long time and they're, you know, starting with this kid when he was like 16 all the way until he was 30. kind of off and on through the years, and he was the designated scapegoat. He was very bright, but he would just bluntly describe the family secrets and, you know, demand improvement in how everyone interacted in ways that just made everyone want to scream. I'll bet. Right?

And so rather than figuring it all out as a family and hearing him out, he just got louder and harder. And usually when your scapegoats starts, you know, screaming family secrets as teenagers, that's really difficult, right? And so it's hard to be like, you know what? I think we all need to take a good look at ourselves. Instead, we're going to just see this person as the family rebel. So you could see this in office settings. As I said that, I was like, oh, you could see that in an office setting, right?

Where the whistleblower or the truth teller or the person who's just not doing the right things to get along can just have all the negative feelings, you know, placed on them. Right. Maybe you guys have seen that before. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you see it, I don't know. It's funny. When you get to be an adult, you see this stuff all the time.

Things were easy when you're a kid. It was like, well, that kid smells funny, so we're not hanging around him. That kid, that kid cries a lot or, you know, whatever. We really blankety decisions are based on real simple outward things. And now it's like. It's so much more complicated now. It's just like, on the one hand, they're awesome for this and this and this. And the other hand, boy, I sure wish they'd quit doing that little tiny thing they do.

It drives me crazy. But, you know, and then we try to live with who we're going to live with or whatever. But scapegoating was easier when you were a kid. Yeah. Because you just say, oh, it's Billy's fault. Done. I'm out and see you later. Now it's like, well, a little more complicated than that.

Yeah. Yeah, totally. And that's just because our brains develop. And it feels really good to not feel blame. And so that is where or really take a hard look at ourselves. And so this is where, you know, your classic projection comes in. You know, unresolved issues in a family, it's just easier to project it on to something else rather than really deal with it. So let me just say a couple more things about the actual scapegoat.

because I just want anyone who feels like they've been scapegoated in their family or is the Golden Child maybe look around, see who might be scapegoated. And sometimes those, especially as adults, there's some repair that can happen, which is going to lead to my advice for this person at the end here. Just really quick with this brother, imagine going from scapegoat to Golden Child. That's got to feel good. Yeah. Yeah.

And be descended. And yeah, unless he sees what it's doing, do as other two brothers, you know? Like, then there's the guilt of that. Yeah. Like, oh, great, now I'm the golden child, but now the other two brothers are getting them. But knows what it's like to, yeah, right, 100%.

So I wish that, yeah, I wish that detail was in there, like, and maybe because the pitting each other against one another has seems, seems to be a little bit successful. And so maybe those communications in that relationship isn't that good in order to talk it through and come to that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

Okay. So real quick, the, the, Seven signs. I'm going to go through a couple of just dumb facts because you're going to let me. Always. Always. Always. Just let me. Just hang up if you need to. So the seven signs of the family scapegoat is this, it can be. They're not like all of them. But just constantly feeling ignored. Just sort of like not getting the time or being treated the same as your siblings. Always being cast in a negative light. So just whatever you do is kind of in. interpreted it as negative or bad. Something good is kind of like, yeah, right, well, you got lucky, that kind of stuff. And then justifying the situation.

So like a parent that is, or sorry, that a child, a parent has a child that's being scapegoat and the parent might just justify this behavior and find excuses. Well, you know, past mistakes or poor behavior or, well, they just could never pay attention or whatever it might be, right? Yeah. And then triangulation. We've talked about this maybe a little bit before,

but just to remind you, triangulation is where a third person is brought into a relationship to stabilize the other two. And that is a terrible place to be. Yeah. So it's the peacemaker that comes in to decrease the tension that exists between mom and dad. So that's triangulation.

You can see that in family. where they're not dealing with their dysfunction. It's a way to keep stability is have a kid play that role. Or, you know, between siblings, it could be another sibling, that kind of thing. Yeah, so manipulation, you can find it there. Successes aren't recognized. And sometimes there's gaslighting that happens there. And then this has a bad effect on the scapegoater, as you can imagine.

Scapegoatie. Scapegoate, I like it. It's a scapegoate. I'm everything on my beard. Yeah. You can find self-harm behaviors are often there because they have just really not gotten what they needed. And sometimes attention is just, I am suffering. And so that is a way to wake people up to see that you're a full human that needs something, right?

Trauma is really common. Low self-esteem is really common. People-pleasing, really common. Co-dependent behaviors. really maybe internalizing conflict or externalizing it, lots of blaming and fighting and that kind of thing, and then just having this pattern in your relationships. But there's hope.

Okay, so we're going to use the hope to help. I like some hope. That's awesome. Let's do it. And some hope. Okay, so this, if you are the person, so if the brother was listening to this as a younger person while the scapegoat. And then now the brothers, that there is a lot you can do to get out of being the family scapegoat.

Sometimes the first thing is just like seeing that that's what it is. Yeah. There's, I don't know how many influencers on TikTok who are scapegoat specialists. You could always find one of them and watch a little content and be like, oh, that fits me. That doesn't fit me. that is a it's a common dynamic that a lot of people have felt really crappy and once they start to understand it they can really sort of wrap their head around this is what's happening and so you can learn to set healthy boundaries you can get therapy you can there are

online support groups for this kind of thing of course there is and working to sort of love yourself when that's really what you've always been needing and trying to do is feel loved lovable, but that's really tough to do when all the blame has been put on you, right? Practice taking responsibility. Ooh, they're flipping the, I'm the victim position. Wow, yeah. Like, it's almost like in a tug of war releasing the rope kind of thing instead of fighting it. Wow.

Yes, yes. And recognizing maybe what you need to do to heal or exit the triangle or exit the scapegoat role what you need to actually be responsible for. And that's probably need a little help pulling that apart. Another really big one is developing good friendships, trying to grow your social support system so that, you know, I think the dictates of your good person or not just coming from mom and dad

can just be dangerous for anybody. And it's highly important and really impactful, not to discount that, but building your own source of family and your own connections is a really powerful way to work through that. So there's therapy, guys. There's all sorts of branches of therapy that would be helpful for this. So let's just talk specifically about these brothers.

So they're all adults. We're looking at, they don't give ages, but. We don't know ages. We know six years between. Yeah, six years between the middle and the final kid, but we don't even know the difference between the older kid and the middle kid. Right. And they're like 100 miles apart or something.

Yeah. At least the youngest lives 100 miles from the writer. We don't know where the oldest lives. Sounds like they talk more, though, for sure. But notice what the relationship, who is arbitrating the relationship? Being a grown adult and having my parents tell me that I should do more to help him, even though he lives hundreds of miles away and never really listen to me anyway. So my guess is these brothers have not done the work to build a relationship without their parents' involvement.

and easy to do because you never had to. It was always mitigated. Yeah. He doesn't say which parent. So maybe it's both parents. Maybe it's just one of them. I don't know. But that person has put them in a triangle themselves.

It does sound like the oldest brother and this middle brother, the writer, have developed their friendship because he says, my older brother and I still marvel at how are they fond over it, which means they're talking, they're almost like a separate little tribe. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right.

And they had, they were both golden children and then they were both, they've both become, become the scapegoats. And probably not in the serious term of scapegoats, but they're just now paying the price for some, I mean, I guess it is scapegoating, right? Paying the price for their brother's lack of whatever. They're paying the price for being the golden children. and for so long, unfortunately, which was not their choice, yeah. Yes, 100%.

And take even, like, the fact that they're still asking this brother to do something for this other brother. I assume they're grown. I assume this other brother maybe doesn't even know that. I don't know. But this is where if you can take a corner out of a triangle where it does not belong and your relationship with your brother mitigated by your parents is. no longer belongs potentially.

And I'm saying that with a little too much confidence, but, you know, that'd be something to really think about. Why are you talking? You say he never really listened to me anyway. Well, he never listened to you parent him because mom and dad had you parent him. But would he connect with you? Is that a thing we haven't maybe tried? Because I promise, nobody loves the position their parents put him in in any of these cases, right?

the flip maybe has given everyone some empathy for each other sure but the the job of connecting as siblings isn't your parents though it sounds like they still want to make that happen that is that's a hard thing to just let be yeah right especially if you've meddled forever it's really hard to just let your grown children so i recommend a don't tell mom lunch and you just get to know or dad and you just get to know each other a little bit or reach out and check on one another and if you're like yeah that's the last thing i want to do okay well then ask yourself what is it that what's really going on is it you know do you not do you really know this person or is it only sort of filtered through he's the baby and he was spoiled right some of your very

young feelings about this dynamic yeah something something to think about um but really taking a point out of a triangle is a very powerful thing and really hard to do when that point is apparent because they used to have all the power. And I read this and I'm like, well, they still have all the power. Yeah. Yeah. They've just shifted it. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I feel like there's a version of this in everybody's family. This one feels especially ground, you know, they've really built a wall up around it. Yeah. And their family dynamic, it's not going to be that extreme for some people, obviously. But if you're out there and you hear this

and you're like oh that's similar this is the difference in our family or whatever we love our we love follow-ups so let us know if you're a scapegoat

in some weird way that we haven't discussed here let us know we can continue the discussion or any questions that you may have for Wendy

you can send them to the morning stream at gmail.com or you can text us at 8014711460 Wendy how's the weather over there

you guys all right did you get enough yeah sunny so no No, so really, so no real winter this year. You just didn't get it. Now, okay.

Not really. And this weekend's like 75 degrees. Like I, that's jacked. There was a foot of snow last April. Yeah. I promise, I'll just keep getting grumpier about this. Yeah. Great.

We'll have to check in on your grumpiness and you'll use the weather as a scapegoat and everything will be perfect. And I'll work on my sound for next time. No, don't worry about it. You're fine. It's windy, everybody. Check her as she goes. And if you're coming to Vegas, get ready to meet her. because she's not nearly as intimidating as you think she is.

Oh, she is 100%. Oh, yeah. I'm real scary. She's shorter than I am, and that's all you need to know. I don't know what that means. It means nothing. All right. I'll see you later.

Off she goes. All right. We are nearly done here. Perfect timing, because in about 15 minutes, my daughter has a meeting. Brian has a meeting. All of us have meetings. I actually have a meeting, but mine's a text meeting, so I don't have to talk, which is kind of nice. Oh, yours will be much nicer than mine.

I'm either going to get some very good news or some very bad news in my meeting. Fingers crossed, man. I don't want you to get dinged on that. That sucks. Cheese, Louise. We're going to take our leave. Let me drive people to the airport and pay $5,500 for the privilege. What a wonderful job it's been.

All right, we're going to go. The only thing I'd say is keep your eye on other shows and stuff. Coverville, as Brian mentioned earlier, will happen today. hour and 15 minutes Soul Asylum, Dave Perner Listen to covers of They do a nice cover of Smokey Robinson song An Alice Cooper song

A Marvin Gay song I mentioned earlier But a lot of people doing covers of them So you're gonna hear like their big songs Runaway Train black gold stuff like that But also some other Some lesser known songs Closer to the Stars Cartoon, the game, things like that

So be there for that Twitch.tv slash Coverville And I'm playing my Barrenzimo Mill deck where I basically go through and try and delete every card my opponent has in Marvel Snap before they have a chance to play them all. Nice. Rock those socks or something.

Tonight, Core, 5pm Mountain Time and be there for that. We got me, Bo and John, lots to talk about there and a bunch of other content. You can check out the schedule on the site if you are interested in all the other things coming up. And I think that'll do it for us. The site for everything is frogpants.com

slash TMS. You can go visit there and find all these link yourself. And a big thanks again to everybody for your help with the MS-150 link. I put some additional stuff that looks like you already hit another milestone just now. Get another milestone. You guys are awesome just during the show across the $1,000 mark. So well on our way and I'll post photos from my rides. My goal today is it's an early one for for my rides every season, which is getting the top of the reservoir over here. Narvada, which is three switchback hills, and then a, about a mile with a 15% grade up. Ooh, that sounds hard.

It doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a, that is a long, steady slog that basically I just have to drop down into three or two gear and, and push my way through. Well, enjoy that. Good luck with it. We'll follow up on Monday. and in the meantime, Brian will play a little song here at the end of the show for us. I will totally do that. Matthew wrote in and said, Good Morning, Sausage and Bacon. April 3rd, saw me complete my second year and my dream job.

No, I still have not been fired, thanks to the vote of confidence last year, Scott. Since starting this role, I have decided to start going to more live gigs again. In the past 12 months, I've been to see Aryan, Brothers of Metal, Gloryhammer, Lordy, Baby Metal, Sabaton, Butcher Babies, and a whole lot more. If the ever-esteemed covermaster could find a cover by or of any of the aforementioned bands, it would be much appreciated. As always, a big thanks to 80 for making it. So I actually enjoy coming to work five days a week.

Love the show, though, Matthew. Nice. I can only surmise that it really doesn't matter what I play for Matthew because after seeing 12 months of those bands in concert, he wouldn't even be able to hear it if I played a spice girl song. But I'm still going to try an honest. his wishes from the from their album let's get it here i'm playing lordy lordy did a great cover of of all things the pointer sisters i'm so excited yes sort of a heavy metal borderline screaming cookie

monster sound version of i'm so excited by uh the pointer sisters they released this on their 2014 album scare force one on the deluxe edition can't find it on the regular edition got to buy the deluxe Here is Lordy and their cover of the Pointer Sisters. I'm so excited. Night will put all other things aside Giving this kind and show me some affection We're going for those pleasures in the night I want to love you

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