The Morning Stream - TMS 2643: Suing Your Oates

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

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Alcoholic fresca Tiny home, huge pantry in the basement Grenada Kung Fu Chow Chow Sigfried and Roy attorneys at law Half the money

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The morning stream, see the world, meet new cultures. I mean, it's all bacterial, but hey, what the bleep. Hello, everybody, welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream. for May 14th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson, and Brian Nibbid is right there. Hi, Brian. I'm right here. I'm right here, folks.

Can you see me? Can you see me? I'm right here. So is this a cool one? 514-24? Not really. It's not that cool. No, 5-1-4-24.

Not really. Can't do anything with that. 5-1-4-24. Sounds like a good number, like a good phone number to use for your, like, law firm. That's right. Call 368-8-5-1-24-24-24-24. 1-800 cars for kids.

5-1-4-24-4-4. You know, it doesn't quite work. You know, we didn't talk about it in Vegas was, or maybe we did, did we bring it up how many, I swear there were more lawyer billboards per mile than any other time. I couldn't believe. Yeah, we had a game where we would play, it must have been with Scott and Christine we were talking about it, saying that you could have a game where I blur out what it says and you have to identify whether or not it's a law firm billboard or a, or a men's cologne billboard or an ed pill billboard because the guys like for whatever reason more so than the here I think people want their their glamour shots photo on the billboard uh oh big time some of them especially like can't remember the one guy he was advertising down in the big lit up part of the new part of the strip like he was obviously kind of big time but it was so dramatic he's like black and white background

And he's looking down his suit like this. And it was like Papinopoulos or some name like that. Yes. Yeah, we were thinking he could, that easily could have been both E.D. pill and men's cologne. I like this. The boy who cried wolf and the jazz says, Vegas is a lawyer convention masquerading as a gambling town. I guess, I guess so.

A lot of lawyers, man. Anyway, it was weird. I thought that was just a strange thing. And I understand, you know, if you feel like you're getting shafted or you got nicked by a car or whatever your thing is you need a lawyer right right but what it must be hard competing in a town like that where bombasticness is what gets people's attention so you can't just do a normal like here we have this these guys named sigfried and not roy uh sigfried and jensen sigfried and jensen and their their billboards are everywhere get call have you been in an accident

call sigfried and jensen and they're very normal buttoned up suit boring it's stupid In Vegas, they'd have to be like, I don't know what, wear headdresses and dance around, or I don't know what they'd have to do. Like, they would have to be some sort of, like, dramatic look to them, like, up, you know, lit from the bottom up. Well, no, I guess you don't want that. You want it to be, here's the thing. Here, you know, we've got the strong arm, the bulldog, whatever his name is, call, oh, geez, I should, I should remember his number of his name. Is it like your, he's known as the strong arm. He's our big advertiser out here.

Every town needs a Saul type, I think. Yes, right. He is our better call Saul, dude. Yeah. And it's always an Anderson Hemet, Levine, or I guess it's now Anderson Hemet, because Levine Law went, he went to his own firm and blah, blah, blah. But their pictures are always them like, you know, arms folded, kind of smiling, that sort of thing, looking friendly but tough kind of thing.

But in Vegas, it is like. Like, like, you just came through a wind tunnel and you're like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you just... Very unbuttoning casual in some cases. Yeah, exactly. Like, you just walked out of the Hakasun Club after hearing DJ Cool Whip playing... Ooh, DJ Cool Whip's a great name. The latest number from Ace of Base.

I don't know. That's a good DJ name. He's trying to go off on a tangent. What casino would DJ Coolwip have his residency in? Oh, clearly Excalibur. No way DJ Cool if is playing anywhere on the strip, then either circus, circus, or Excalibur. That's, that's, and his show ends promptly at 8 p.m.

Yep. The advantage is they're like... Because he needs to pick up his kids from the wife. They're like two out of like three casinos like we talked about yesterday that still have free parking, I think. There's those two you mentioned. The cheapest, lous casinos, of course, have free parking because they need you. They need you.

They need you. They need you. They aren't having trouble, you know, keeping people in or out. Oh, but the point, the whole thing that started this is, you're going to go see a great concert, and that's exciting. Oh, yes. Yeah, that's where that all came from. Yeah, so I'm seeing Elvis Castello and Daryl Hall performing together live at the Fontainebleau. Yeah.

Where's the Oates? Oates is somewhere else. I can't not say Fontainebleau. Yeah, I can't help it either. where's where's oats these days what's he up to i know they're not oh well they are not yeah they are not friends they are currently like i can't remember who's suing who i think hall is suing oats because there were songs that hall wrote that oates is performing on tour and didn't want him to perform and they had like an agreement and oats broke the agreement and so he's suing for half the money

and all of the mustache i think is the deal yeah he i think he should get full custody of the mustache regardless. They should. Exactly. You know, give Oats the mustache on weekends. Visitation. That's what we're looking for.

You don't need nothing fancy. It can be even, you can have it, what do you call it? Someone will observe it the whole time. We'll send a social services person. Just to make sure. Nothing untoward is going on with Oates mustache.

Not since the Oasis brothers. Has there been such a freaking war in aging pop music? man what the what the heck dude getting yeah i can't wait for the hall versus oates distracks oh man yeah maybe fx will do a miniseries oh here he comes watch out boy he'll sue your ass he's a litigator see this is a song just waiting to be made it's waiting to be made yeah get on that brian you've got the wherewithal you got a microphone make that yeah i could make it happen myself yes after i finish my elvis castell a cover album, I'll work on the,

pre-show folks, got to listen to the pre-show to find out about that. Yep, that's a callback, baby. Callback, but yeah, I'll work on the Holo notes parody cover, a parody album. Nice. Well, let's do a little, speaking of historic, recognizable names. Yesterday is history today.

I got a couple of really cool history moments for you. Did you know that in 1887, on this day? Sure. The year, 1787, delegates. That's right. Get delegates gathered in Philadelphia to draw up the U.S. Constitution. Oh, wow. That's cool.

I'm sure they said, and I hope in 250 years, people will have this emblazoned on their pickup truck as they drive by. And no one will have any arguments about any of it and whether any of it's still relevant. It'll all be fine. No controversy at all with this U.S. Constitution. right up. And let's make sure we put a big old chunk in there about our muskets that take 10 minutes to reload. Let's make sure we

ensure that everybody gets one of those so that one day people will interpret that to mean massive amounts of machine gunnery in their house. Let's make sure we get that done. Also the... It was added afterwards. It was added after the fact. That's true. It was an amendment. That's good point. Yeah. 2004,

the final episode of Frazier was on NBC. That was how many years ago now? 20 years. Yeah, except can you still say that because wasn't the new show called Frazier? Oh, good point.

Now there's new ones, yeah. I guess if you count the original run as a finished thing. So the final episode aired with 33 million people watch that. That's amazing. That's a lot. Did you watch any of the reboot? No.

Or not reboot the sequel or the... I haven't. I assume it's all just there on Paramount or whatever it is. It's got to be, yeah. Peacock, I think. Was it good? Did people like it? Never saw it.

Yeah, did anyone in the chat room watch it? I bet Randy watched it. He probably did. My big concern was that he's the only cast member back. So did somebody, maybe others like guest it or something? Somebody made a guest, yeah. But if you don't have David Hyde Pierce like the whole time. Right.

What are you doing? Yeah, says no Niles in this reboot, says Chat, Rainbow Bright. No Niles and John Mahoney passed away. right? Yep. What's her name? Didn't see her. Baby Newark.

Lilith was in it? Well, she's always down the clown. Oh, J.PW said BB Newark was in it. Okay, there we are you. She's always willing. Raws was in it? Okay. I liked Raws.

Brian pulls up. Just watch to see where he can watch. It's got to be Phaer. Right? Peacock? Yeah, it was all NBC, so it was must see. So I would think you would have to be. I did watch, based on our Gore discussion last week.

I watched, um, not Maxine Pearl I watched Pearl I watched Pearl I was Pearl the sequel to X it was okay

it wasn't as it's more of a prequel right it's a prequel to X yeah I see why people say it's better than X it's a little it's quirky and

uh nutty I don't know what that wow you really you really nailing my selling it aren't I Like, there wasn't, I'm fine with it, there wasn't as much, as much killing in Gore and I was thinking, oh my God, she's going to go on a murderous rampage. And she did, you know, kill quite a few people.

But, I don't know, I was expecting, I don't know what else I was expecting from it, but it still is making me look forward to the next one. The next one is Maxine, right? It's Maxine and that one is her, her in the 80s, not Pearl, but Maxine, the other character. the later character the final girl from x right and i don't know if that's before or after x i think it's after because the 70s was x or was set in the 70s i think right oh right right right and the next 10 years is in the 80s and it's something in new york as best i can tell she's she's a bona fide weirdo i like watching her on camera yeah she is she does a great uh you know her whole little inflection, her basically her,

uh, her Wizard of Oz, Dorothy kind of, uh, deal in, uh, Pearl was pretty funny. And I, and for a while I was thinking, oh, they're totally going Wizard of Oz with this business, because she's like, she's right in her bike down the, you know, along the cornfields like Margaret Hamilton is the witch in the movie. And, uh, she messes around with a scarecrow for a little bit there's like a little tin man uh toy underneath the bed when she's got the top hat down there but i was waiting for some cowardly lion thing and i didn't see it so i think it was just i think i was just imagining it basically it seems like you had reason to think it seemed like it was going there and then it just stopped going there weird well tie what's your name tie smith or whoever

that director is give us some clarity on your movie maybe yeah well anyway uh good glad you saw that because i was curious about it now i'm kind of kind of kind of of interested uh what else oh hey brian do you know this i found a fun fact here's a fun sure tell me fun we also have to talk about the uh the elephant in the room with the uh you know we killed another one's guy oh shit yeah we may as well get it out of the way we talked about david samborn in relation to letterman and how he's on there all the time and whether saxophone is even pliable today and we were right well samborn's a classic though he's always great still torn but the bit and then he passed away i swear we didn't

do this. It was not us. We didn't do it. I mean, come on. We never do it. It was clearly us talking about how saxophone is dead. It is, uh, just, yeah, just creeped right in there and did it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, anyway, uh, you know, thoughts to his family. We'd be remiss if we did not acknowledge that, uh, yeah. I just saw him the other night on another repeat of Letterman and he was great. He was really good. So the, may the saxophone live forever and may may the memory of David Sanborn never leave our minds.

All right. Well said. Yes. All right. Did you know this? The Coors factory there in Denver or in Colorado. It's not Denver,

but Colorado itself. I don't know where that actually is, though. It's in golden. It is literally, and I'm not even exaggerating when I say this, it is 10 minutes away from me.

If I'm driving there, I'm there in 10 minutes. Well, like it is, if the wind is right, sometimes I can smell the hops. Now, if you liked Coors beer, this would be exciting.

That would be, that's a big yes. One of the most popular free attractions near Denver. You spend 30 minutes learning about the malting process. But if you've been to any brewing tour, you've been to all of them, this article says. Anyway, you can skip the factory tour altogether and head straight to their hospitality lounge, where this thing becomes the cheapest bar in the entire state of Colorado. Yeah. So if you liked beer, specifically Coors beer.

If I specifically liked Coors beer. Yeah. Then you'd be set. Now, here's the problem. I don't know anyone who really likes Coors beer. No, I mean, they got a little bit of a bump when the Nettjobs were protesting. What was the, what was the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, so. when Bud Light got boycotted, it did give a little bit of a bump to Coors, but gave more of a

bump to Modelo, which is a Budweiser, Bud Light product. Budweiser owns all that stuff. It's all big beer now, man. They're all just laying, they're all just swimming in it. Yeah. Chat says also Piss. This is referred to as piss. Yeah, exactly.

I'm not a fan of Cores. As close as I live to it. Now, I mean, this article does mention the one thing that I feel like, like, uh, Coors got right, which is Zima. Oh, I didn't know that was a Coors deal. That was a Coors product. I didn't know that. Enzima, on its own, me.

But as a mixer, as a gin and Zima, great combo. Interesting. Like, as a mixer instead of tonic or instead of soda, like a vodka, Zima's grade. They say right here it's basically alcoholic fanta. Would you agree with that assessment? Kind of. I'd say it's more, I would say it's closer to alcoholic fresca. Fanta was fruit flavors, right?

Fanta was your orange and your pineapple and stuff. Fresca is that weird little almost citrus. And that's what Zima, the Zima flavor was. Oh, yeah, you're right. Boy who cried wolf said, Medello is owned by Constellation. It wasn't Modelo. It was Corona. Corona got the bump from Bud Light's boycott and Corona is owned by Bud Light.

That's right. That was it. There was also something with, like, in some parts of the world, Budweiser has the rights to something in other parts of the world, they don't, or something like that. There was a whole thing. Yeah. It's like, whatever, man. Go, these freaking boycott fights, freaking F off, dude. I don't care.

I don't care what you're doing. You know what? If you don't like a thing, don't like it, don't get it. Don't tell me what I should do. Go do what you want to do. I guess I don't drink anyway, so it doesn't matter to me. So you're fine. I'm good.

But, yeah, the 10 minutes away is the Coors thing with their three free samples. Nine minutes away is new terrain brewery, just basically on this side of the highway, of Highway 58 from May. Coors is on the other side. This side is new terrain brewing, and they have great beer there. They're good there. If I like beer, you know, I'll get a beer there. They have something like a, they have a yogurt beer, which I'm never touching.

and thank you very much. Thanks to Hammond. That sounds bad. You think yogurt soda is bad. How about a yogurt beer? But they have a great nitro stout, and that's all I need. What's a nitro stout? Tell me that, what that is.

Like it's a, so Guinness is a stout, right? Guinness is a really, really dark, thick beer. Nitro just means the, it's, and somebody can definitely help me with this, but But nitro, the process of serving it pushes it through a more of a pressurized chamber that makes the bubbles finer and makes it a little bit of a smoother, silkyer beer. Oh, interesting. Is that, does that – Is it really – oh, so it's nitrogen gas bubbled through beer. Is that true?

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Nitrogen. That would make sense. So literally nitro, like a nitro boost. Okay. It's like literally nitro. Okay.

So it's finer carbonation and it's like when those boar boys were sucking in gas and blowing it into their carburetor. Right, exactly that. Yeah, I'm preparing, Brian. I got like a week and a half and I've got to prepare for this movie. So I'm going to start making references. Oh, no. Is it really a week and a half? Not even that.

It's soon. Did you get your tickets, by the way? Not yet. We're still trying to figure out what we're doing around Kim's leaving and what time to do it. it, so it's starting to look likely that we'll either have to do like a really late Thursday showing, which I'm totally fine with. We just have to make a decision and either do that or like Friday morning or something. I just don't want to do it while she's gone. I really want to see it while she's here. I mean, you'll, yeah, you'll, even if you don't see it with her the

first time you see it, you'll see it with her one of the other times you see it. Yeah, of the 400 other times I plan to see it. You know what? I've had this yesterday on the Monday show, but I'm say it again. If I hear one more person bring up this stupid fact that means nothing that Furiosa, Anya Taylor Joy, only has 30 lines of dialogue in the new movie. As if it matters, as if that is significant at

all. Right. I think that's fewer. That's, I think it's more than Tom Hardy had, probably. If it's not, it's got to be close. And also, that's what these movies are. Also, go back and tell me how many times Mel Gibson opened his gob and Road Warrior, like hardly ever. Like this...

Those little kids saying bidey by and Thunderdome had more lines than Gibson. through all three movies. It's such a strange thing to point out, though. Like, okay, guess what? What are you going to do with that information? Oh, well, I'm not going to see it then. If Anya Taylor-Jonle has 30 lines, I'm not going.

Yeah, I don't understand what that means. It's so dumb to me. It's like, are they saying that, oh, well, she doesn't have very many lines. So clearly what? Clearly what? Yeah. It means nothing. So stop it.

Marcel Marceau only had one line in Melbrook's silent movie. That's right. And you couldn't even hear him. Wait, you could kind of him. He was the only one who spoke. Yeah, he's the only one that said things. Man, it's been a while since I've seen that. Also, don't talk about Mel Brooks.

He's too old. He's going to die. Oh, shit. No kidding. Yeah, that's a... He's too old. That's such... That's low-hanging fruit, I'm afraid.

I mean... Very low-hanging. Yeah. Gravity has taken its toll on his fruit. If you know what I mean. Oh, what you mean. Well, anyway... And, ew.

Yeah. Also, you never told us what you thought of kingdom of the planet of the apes. Yeah, because I saw that the Friday night. So I saw that after, I talked a little bit about it on film set pre-show, but, you know, I recommendal those three movies, uh, Rised Dawn and War of the Planet of the Apes or War for the Planet of the Apes on Recommendals last week. And I stand behind that you should, you should binge those all three together, watch them back to back to back, maybe obviously not the same day if you can't do it, but, you know, during the same week or something weekend.

Oh, yeah. Because they are far better than anybody remembers. I really enjoyed them, especially that third bit with Woody Harrelson was really, really good. And it goes right into, sort of goes right into this one. This one takes place 300 years after War for the Planet of the Apes. But the story and the continuation of the story of Caesar is really well done. It's a good movie. And I think I said, you know, if this thing has 70 to 80 percent on Rotten Tomatoes,

I feel like that's a very adequate good score. I don't know where they're at, but it's in the 80s somewhere, I think. Yeah, William, so William H. Macy's in this. He's really good. Bean Fork does the voice almost unrecognizably of Proximus. Proximus Caesar. So let me ask you a quick question that doesn't, if it's spoiler, you don't have to answer it. Sure, sure.

Is it a bloodline of leadership? So when his last name, it sounds like a surname of Caesar, is that mean he is in the bloodline of the original Caesar all these years later? Or is that a spoiler to say? It is not a spoiler to say, no. The term proximus. So he's basically saying near to Caesar is his name. Oh, proximate.

Like I am proximal to Caesar. All right. Yes, exactly. Yes. Beamfork is one of my favorite character actors of all time Of course we're talking about Kevin Duran In case anyone's confused How are the people

In the trailer he's the guy who says What a wonderful day It feels like feels a little mad maxi right there Well I love him so I'm all in I got to see this So my goal is I'm going to try to see this Before I see the other one Before I see Furiosa

Yeah if you can maybe try and you know, try and watch the first three again before you see this, if you can. Definitely want to. I definitely want to. Yeah. So do we still, we blame, we blame, what's his name? Who's in the first movie? Franco? We blame James Franco for trying to cure Alzheimer's for creating the planet of the apes, right? Correct. Basically it is, well, you know, it'll, it'll, you'll be refreshed when you see the movie, but Franco doesn't want that, um, he tries to pull.

pull the treatment because he realizes what a danger does, but somebody with some dollar signs in their eyes says, no, give it to all these monkeys or all these apes, and then we'll see what happens, and that's the problem. Yeah, I could see that. So Franco still gets to kind of be the hero. Nice. Yeah.

The real hero of that series is Kobo, who I assume is not in this because we're 300 years later. But Kobo, man, that is the best. most evil nasty ass ape you ever saw in your life. Holy shit. Like rips off Caesar's shirt. Caesar walks into the facility wearing a shirt and Kobo's like, ape don't wear a shirt and rips it off.

Doesn't want to talk, but... No. Cobo's a dick, though. Bobo's a dick. Through the entire first three movies. That guy just full-on dick the whole time. Cobo has a little bit of a moment. Does he?

And I won't say anything more than that. Okay. All right. Yep, yep. It's a little something I'm unaware of. Hmm. All right, well, I'm going to try to see that if I can. Yeah, watch them.

I think all three are still on Hulu. Who, Lou? Oh, excellent. I like Hulu. I'll watch it on there. Quick email from Joe. Joe wrote in. So, Scott, I'm a newer fan of the show, and I have been binging it lately.

I came for core and stayed for the rest of the podcast. I was listening to today's TMS and heard you guys talking about the Aurora, You know, the Aurora Borealis. The Aurora, sure. I live in Alaska, and I'm a dog musher. I train the race, or sorry, I train the race team all hours of the day, all winter, and the aurora is out pretty much consistently. While it's true that you can't always see it great without your phone,

a lot of the time it's better than your camera picks up, and it does dance like you see without time lapses. Wow. Okay, I've always, I've heard recently that that movement that we see in, like, the traditional stereotypical shots of the Aurora Borealis were just done with time lapses. That's what I thought, too. But I guess in Alaska, yeah, it would make sense. You'd get more variants probably enough, faster.

He says, I usually don't feel the need to write to podcasts I listen to, but I need to do on this topic. Come to Alaska in the fall or winter, and you can see green, purple pink. And if you're really lucky, red Aurora at times. Love the show. You guys make long days feel shorter. Thanks, Joe. Well, thanks, Joe. Very cool.

You know, I'd love to go back to Alaska. We had such a great time up there. I did too. I loved it. It was awesome. I went in the summer, so not quite, well, I guess it was getting August. So we were getting close to September fall, but I've never been up there. And like the proper winter sounds scary up there.

It does. Yeah, I don't want to go there during winter and no. It's a lot of snowman. Summer fall, absolutely. Did some mountain biking out there and. Yeah. Do you go fishing at all? Zip lining.

Did not do any fishing. Did some kayaking, kayaked out to a. a glacier and watched it a cav for a while nice nothing wrong with cabbing glaciers you know well do you know what tally we did kind of gloss over the fact that yeah this guy's a dog musher holy cow oh yeah uh mushing dogs yeah yeah mush mush mush yep i guess that's what you call that i didn't know it's i figured it'd be like some other name but a musher all right no i guess uh do have you done the iditarod are you trained do you train a team for the iditarod uh joe tell us we'd love to to know more. Now you're going to have to write into a podcast again and tell us these

things. Twice. Twice. Also, I'm really curious why it's mush. Where do that come from? Do the dogs like that word? Like, that's a, I have deep scientific questions about why mush was the word chosen. That's a really good question. Why isn't it like, smear, shmere, or guba, guba? Why isn't it a thousand other things to say, not much? Mandalay. Yeah, exactly, why mush? Yeah. So tell us, write us in, let us know, Joe. I wonder if that's an Inuit word or something. Oh, it might be. Good point. Yeah. The dogs are just used to it. Or maybe they all think

they're getting, they like mush, you know, like a good mush. Chris says in our chat room says, comes from the French word, Marche, which means to walk. Marsh, marsh. Do we have to like use, do we have to keep the French's ideas? Can't we do our own? Damn it. Well, I'm sure when that started up, Alaska was not our own. I'm sure when

people started meshing dogs, Alaska was not part of us. Yeah, I think it was Russia. Who owned it before? Who had, who'd we buy it from? Didn't we buy that from Russia? I think we did. Do we buy it from Canada or Russia? I don't even know.

Who got our money? Who took that money? Canada, was it? Native Americans, Claire, we know who took it, took it. I'm saying who sold it. Moose says Russia. Yeah. I think it's Russia.

I can see Russia from my house. There is a person we haven't heard much from much from in a while. I have no problem saying her name, if you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just kidding, I don't want anyone to die ever, all right, everybody, live forever. Not even pale. Not even her. All right, let's get going here with some news.

We got news. It's time for the news brought to you by. Boy spends seven years being a third wheel. Oh, it's a tricky one. Yeah, this is a really tricky one. Did you write this one, or did you get this one? I got this one off a list. Okay.

This is a tough one because it's like, it's so vague. And, you know, Forrest Gump was a third wheel for quite a while, but longer than seven years with the whole Jenny thing and her string of men. I'll give you a hint that the boy part matters or that will help get you there. Oh, really? Instead of man, although I spelled it B-P-Y. Whoops. He has to befy white.

And he deleted it. Yeah, I didn't mean to do that. There we go. So the fact that he's a boy. Yeah. And it's not a gender thing. It's a young thing. Is it AI, the artificial intelligence with Aley Joel Osmond?

Nope. Nope. The third wheel part matters too. So someone on the chat. Chat got it. See Brian. A couple people. Oh, Harry Potter?

Yep. Harry Potter. Seven years. That would make sense. Okay. And it was all about, that's all about Ron. Ron's the third. wheel.

Sure. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. That one's pretty tricky. I saw that one. It's pretty tricky because, yeah, it's so, uh, there's, you know, the seven years is a good clue.

I think that's actually the best clue is the seven years. You just got to think, all right, what movie or series is like specifically seven years. That should have been the, uh, that's the trick. That should have been the thing. Hermione ends up with Ron. I know, I know she ends up with Ron, but yeah. During the run of the films, though, it always felt like Ron was just the weird. comic relief friend like a little third wheel

guy. So I think it still works, but you're right. Oh, oh, I was thinking Harry Potter was the boy in question here, not Ron. Okay. No, because Harry Potter is like, he's your main dude. Hermione's pretty much second billing, and then Ron's just kind of there, you know? But they

loved each other way earlier than they realized it. Oh, I know. There was a spark, Brian. They had to investigate and pour gas on that spark. Yeah, exactly. A woman, Let's talk about this woman. Sure.

Found living in a Michigan, excuse me, Michigan grocery store. I said mission gree for some way. Yeah, you're left off one important word. Yeah, it didn't go right. Anyway, a Michigan, what I miss? You missed the word sign. Oh, shit. Right after grocery store.

Yeah, woman found living in a Michigan grocery store sign, complete with a computer and a curig for months. Is that awesome? Oh, my God. So she lived in the sign. Like one of these big ass, look at the size of this sign. I mean, you know. Yeah, there's room in there.

I guess I could live in there. Sure. Yeah, get a good room rate inside that sign. A woman was found living in a rooftop sign of a family fair grocery store in Michigan. Any of our Michigan people know about that? Never heard of family fair. Anyway, and had been there for about a year, said police. Police in Midland were notified about the woman living in the small space that hosts the supermarket sign on April 23rd after contractors working on the roof found her there.

that must have been fun oh god I bet it smelled terrific in there I'm trying to figure out I love that you'll love that you get your family fair supermarket it's the big part of the sign that she was presumably living in but underneath that you've got you know the

UPS store a 24 7 gym a subway and Secretary of State yeah the Secretary of State is a shop in the strip mall by the family fair I love that

That's a better call Saul bullshit right there is what that is. Anyway, it says here the woman had flooring, a computer, a desk, a printer, a curig, and a pantry of food in the space, which was 10 to 15 feet long as all, about five feet wide, approximately eight feet tall at its highest point, according to the Midland Police. Quote, we made contact with her and she was advised that she was not allowed to live there, a spokesperson for the Midland Police Department said she was formerly trespassed, sorry, she was formally trespassed from the store and was provided with information on services within our area,

however she did not wish for any of these. I don't know what that means, formally trespassed. I want to see, yeah, I don't know. I want to see, they keep showing the signs of the front, like the little video here from the news. They keep showing, you know, B-roll footage of the front of the Family Fair grocery store. I want to see like a photo of what it looked like inside.

What was she living in? Yeah. I want this movie. That's what I want. Yeah, right. Wasn't there one with Reese Witherspoon or something where she lived in a Kmart? Oh, yeah. What am I thinking of? No, there was something like that. What was that? I'm thinking, Sweet Home Alabama? That's something else, right?

Hicor says it's the wrong sign. It says family fair. Maybe this is literally B-roll from another family fair. I don't know. I mean, Terminal was similar, right, but there was something where somebody lived in a, like a big box store. Yeah, somebody camped out in what looked like a Target. yeah what was that movie you're not you're not making this up i absolutely know this no i totally remember this and it was it was right around the time of sweet home alabama didn't she have a and she had a baby or something in there dang it someone says natalie portman oh was it natalie portman that doesn't sound right that doesn't sound right where the heart is might be that sounds familiar should be where the kmart is yeah they still they still don't uh oh oh cool

Engine found photos of the inside the sign. Oh, no way. Let's take a look. Oh, that's... Wow. Let's see here. There's really a desk in there. It's hilarious.

You know what? That looks all right. I mean, I'm small and cramped, but it's not like a mess. Yeah. Oh, it's the sign. Okay. I think people were saying it's a different sign, right? It's the sign that's on top of the building that looks like a little house.

So, of course, you'd live in there. Oh, okay. All right, now I have, but I have new pictures. I have new questions about how she traveled up and down there. Like, did she sneak through the store? Was there an outside way? Like, I got questions about that. And also, where those guys work in, I guess if they do sign maintenance, they would find her.

It feels like she could have gone a lot longer. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. But she pretty much had everything she needed in there with like an extension cord. I love that she had a computer in a curing. Like, she's got water, she's got fresh fruit in there. Was she getting that all from the family fair downstairs? I wonder, still on all their food.

Yeah, here we go. Movie where a girl lives in a Walmart, where the heart is. So Ben Jinn, no, I-Corps or Biocale maybe. Natalie Portman and James Frane, whoever that is, and Ashley Judd. Dr. Channing. Okay. Joan Cusack. Never saw this business.

Was this good? never saw it oh Keith David's in it well then yes it was good because Keith David was good The answer is yes David in his voice Yeah he's in there for sure All right

Yeah well Sure at some point we'll watch it for film seconds They sure don't that poster sure says nothing It really doesn't yeah It's a Walmart looks like Laugh harder Laughter is harder Laughter is harder

Friendship is stronger Trust is deeper when it comes from the heart that's why I didn't see the movie it should be it should be called Woman Lives in a Walmart or Walmart woman or something Exactly

Something that draws me in man Right All right here's a story that would piss me off A Hertz charges a Tesla Model 3 Renter 277 bucks This big fee for gas and they won't back down although there is an update to this

I'm going to read this prior to the update because now after the update things are kind of solved but it's still funny it says here you might understand the shock that Hertz customer Joshua Lee felt when he saw the receipt for his rented Tesla Model 3 after returning the vehicle back to Hertz following a weekend vacation in Los Angeles, California

Lee noticed he was hit with an additional $27739 on top of his initial reservation price. Why was he charged so much additional money? According to Hertz, this was the cost of refueling the electric Model 3. Unfortunately for Lee, the further he pried, the company information, the more Hertz doubled down and the more confused he became.

When he made the reservation, when he made the reservation, the receipts for which were seen and confirmed by the drive is the website, the drive.com. The drive, yeah. He paid for the skip the pump and save time option. That's what I was predicting is that basically. on his account and i've got this set on my account for when i rent cars i prepay for the um the gas it's cheaper than filling it up yourself uh you just basically pay up front or it's it's it's cheaper it's cheaper if you fill it up yourself on the way back from where you're going right but it's

it's way less way less expensive than them having to fill it up if you don't prepay the to fill the tank oh got but if you have that on your account and say Yep, I'm going to do the skip the pump because sometimes I'm in a hurry. I'm like, ooh, got to get to the airport and I don't want to, like, try and hunt down a gas station between the hotel and the airport. Yeah. I mean, we usually just do the filling ourselves, but that option makes sense. But if it's a Tesla and him clicking, it should have just meant nothing because... It should have automatically, like, waived that fee because it's a Tesla.

Yeah, and I assume Hertz charges on site. I don't know how they do it when they recharge those cars, but you can't charge for... You can't, maybe if they want to charge for charging, that's different, but that's not what this was. That's different, but yeah, and I think that's an interesting question. Like, what are they, because the place where the, at least in, where was the last place I rented a car in Savannah or in Atlanta, one team I went to Savannah last year. The rental place actually had a block of stations that Hertz and Avis, like a bunch of the things we're using all kind of in the center. Oh, they were sharing them.

They had all the, yeah, all the electric cars were sharing those chargers. That makes sense. So anyway, the update to this is they finally backed down and said, oh, yeah, okay, we'll refund you that amount. Because it went viral, of course, and everybody was talking about it, so they felt the pressure a bit. Oh, hell yeah. No, and they really should. They should have even doubled down in the first place and said, well, yeah, that applies. This skip the pump applies to cars that require a pump.

Yeah, yeah, good point. Warc Crusher in the chat says Hertz is. a shit company. Always pulling terrible things on people. He later says, Last Hertz car I rented had expired plates. Oh gosh. Really?

I hope you didn't get over or did you? Yeah, how'd you know? Hopefully you didn't get pulled over with that. Because I wouldn't even look. I would never even look at that stuff. I just assume it's all on the up and up. Yeah, don't do, don't do Hertz. Do you like?

Who do you like? I like dollar and budget. Those are the two that I go to and I have, you know, those I started with when I was working for media marketing getting sent all over the country to install the newspapers those would be the two

that I started with and now it's like I've got I don't really have high status with them but I'm in their fast lane program so I can for some some airports I can skip going to the booth and just go straight

to the give me the keys part of the airport I like Avis because Avis gave me a free upgrade to a Corvette that one time Oh yes the time in California yeah that was awesome and they didn't charge

they just charged us whatever the tersell or whatever hell it was we were supposed to get to charge us that. So, you know, for now, Avis,

you're in my good graces. Hertz, F off. I ain't going to Hertz. Yeah. Let's see here. Here's the story real quick. Oh, this is crazy. All right.

The husband behind the viral golden white dress thing that broke the internet some years ago, remember that whole thing. It turns out he now admits that he strangled his wife. Oh, my God.

This went dark. The man behind the white, gold, blue, black dress thing that broke the internet, quote unquote, has pleaded guilty to endangering his wife's life and admitting to strangling her. Kear Johnston, 38, appeared in the high court in Glasgow. He didn't realize this

happened over in Scotland. Where he pled guilty, or pleaded guilty to a, is what they say here, to terrifying, sorry, to a terrifying attack on his wife. Boy, you guys in your laws over there. I find you guilty of a terrifying attack. A terrifying attack. It's terrifying,

truly, what you've done. to your wife. Let's see here. That left her fearing for her life but alive, according to the daily record. Johnston from the Isle of Colonsei. That says colon say, doesn't it? Colonsay. That's a talking colon is what that is.

Off the west coast of Scotland was remanded in custody until his sentence next month. Scheduled for June 6th. Johnston received global attention for the hashtag the dress. whole thing, after an image of his mother-in-laws dressed during his wedding in 2012, 2015, I can't believe it was that long ago, was shared online by a guest at the event.

The debate over the dress is true colors, black or blue, gold or white, broke the internet. Quit saying that article. Quit saying break the internet. It broke the internet. I hate that. They said at the time and drew thousands of comments including stuff from Celebrities, reality star, Kim Kardashian, posted that

she argued about it with her then-husband Kanye West. Oh, and where are they now? Yeah, how'd that work out? Ellen DeGeneres invited the Johnson's onto our talk show, and they were given $10,000 in a trip to Canada, or Grenada rather. I rent Canada, but it's Grenada. Grenada.

I thought Grenada was like a... Well, that was when we were young, there was a whole thing there. Yeah, it was the war in Grenada, yeah. This week, the Scottish court heard that behind closed doors, Johnson left his wife fearing for her life and had a history of domestic abuse towards her. God. You know, you can't even have a good viral event anymore without somebody being a douche. Well, I hope in prison he gets to wear, you know, colors, prison uniforms that are clearly the color he thinks they are.

Yeah. And make a whole bunch of new friends. Yeah. All kinds of new friends. I hope they don't do anything terrifying to him, if you know what I mean. Yes. Yes. All right. Here's a final story for you. I love this. So some months ago on this show, we talked about how they were being accused of this, but it turned out they were actual bears.

but they were accusing a Chinese zoo of having bears that had people in the suits. And it turns out they were just weird bears that when they stood up, they looked like a dude with baggy pants. Like they just looked weird. So everyone backed off and it was like, okay, I guess everything's fine. Well, now, there's no question what they've done here. Dogs painted black and white at a Chinese zoo to pass off as pandas. You got to see these things.

So let me pull this up for everybody. they're amazing 100% those are dogs those little guys right there oh that's hilarious yeah those are not pandas a zoo and in China has come under fire after authorities painted two black dogs

black and white to resemble pandas at the Chazoo Ho Zoo and Jingsu province visitors were shocked to discover that the animals they saw in panda enclosures were actually chow chow dogs have you watched the video no

Hold on. I didn't know there was video. That's amazing. I mean, kudos to whoever died these poor dogs. But yeah, nobody's getting fooled by these being actual pandas. Not even close to pandas. I mean, color, sure. But pandas don't play like this. The fake pandas unveiled May 1st had their names trimmed before they were, their mains rather, trimmed before they were dyed to resemble little pandas they put uh or they put see they put the painted dogs on display between eight and five p m regularly and visitors flock to see them because they're rare pandas are kind of rare yeah yeah um so rare that you had to use a dog to make it happen when tourists realized they were looking at chow chow dogs they

were as widespread outrage with activists criticizing zoo authorities for animal cruelty and deception however the zoo has defended its decision to place painted dogs instead of pandas responding to the backlash the spokesperson for the zoo compared the act of people dying their hair stating that natural dye can be used on dogs with long fur. That doesn't make him a panda, you weirdo. Exactly. But also, you know, I think that the treatment of these dogs goes beyond the dying of their fur with natural dye.

It's also, they're being kept on concrete, you know, with no place to run and play and anything like that. I mean, these poor things are just like... Yeah. Yeah. Not that keeping pandas in that situation would be any better, but, you know. Here's their exact quote. This quote is wild.

Here's their quote. There are no panda bears at this zoo, and we wanted to do this as a result. People also dye their hair. Natural dye can be used on dogs if they have long furred. That was their whole explanation. We have no pandas, so we are going to make fake pandas. Right. Well, we talked about turning horses and elephants yesterday on the show when your zoo was out of elephants, so we kind of.

Yeah. If they had actually done that, I mean, I would have loved it. That's the thing. I don't know that I would be as outraged as some of these people are. I think I would laugh really hard if I saw these. I'd be just like, wait a minute. These are dogs.

Yeah. You know, it's like when they take a horse and zebra paint it to make it look like a zebra. Yes, right, right. What are you guys doing? They're pandogs. Okay, they're pan dogs. Yeah, they're pan dogs. Get it straight, everyone.

Yeah. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, Amy's going to be with us. And we've got not just one. two clips. That's right. Fiction and nonfiction. Coming at you from our read this segment with Amy Robinson.

So stick around for Amy's appearance here on the show. Between now and then, though, Brian brought some music, and now he'll explain it and play it. I will explain it. I will, yeah, let's go to Southern California for this one. We did some heavier stuff yesterday. Let's do a little bit of a lighter pop thing. I think if you do like folks like Sarah Borellis or,

Even a little bit of Taylor Swift, I hear in this, then you'll probably like this. I like it and whatever. This is, I'm not defending it. I like it. This is a brand new single called Made of You. I'm sorry, no, this is from the single Made of You. This is Force of Nature by Monica Abin. She comes from Southern California.

This is a tribute to her mom, so it came out for Mother's Day. The EP is coming from, let's see, the EP is coming out July 26. that's called Everything I've ever known. It's just a sweet little song. It's called, like you said, it's called Force of Nature. It's Monica Abin, A-B-E-N, and here it is right here. We want to know You can feel it in the breeze

It's the breath of a falling leaf It's a walk along the river It's the sun rise on your cheeks In all that you do be A force of nature Don't fight the lid that feeds you Thank the sun and your creator Will only be as strong

As storms we brave and weather Learn to trust fall into nature Tie our roots together Hand in hand we will remember Our ancestral ways And we'll return from where we came Where the grasslands grow, so does hope. What a beautiful reminder, all is wild, and earth is old.

We must slowly wake our souls, we're much more than what we're told. You can hear it in the breeze. It's the breath of a fallen leaf. in the garden It's the dirt that's on your feet It's in you and me In all that you do be A force of nature

Don't fight the land that feeds you Like the sun and your creator Will only be as strong As storms with braving weather Learn to trust fall into nature Tie our roots together Hand in hand we will remember Our ancestral ways

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We've returned. Who was that again? Sure. That is Monica Abin, or Aben. That is a brand new song called Force of Nature. She's got a brand new EP coming out called Everything I've ever known. Enjoy it. This is, yeah, this was Force of Nature.

Very nice. Let's get to Amy in here. See what's up. Yeah, she's our own Force of Nature. That's right. If there was ever a Nature Force, well, this is one. Where the hell is her intro? There it is.

One of the things that I enjoy also is reading. Look what we got here. We've got to read this segment with Amy, who joins us after a bit of a hiatus. You were busy last week, had stuff, and we had Vegas before that. It's just been a little crazy. But Amy, welcome back to the show. How are you? Oh, thank you.

Hi, friends. Hi. How are you guys doing? Doing great. We're good. Yeah. How was, you had something big happened last week. Oh, your son went somewhere.

or something. Yeah, yeah. My son had to go have a colonoscopy last week. And, yeah, it was right during the time that my segment would be starting. So, or like, right, you know, right around the time that they came to get me and told me to bring the car around and whatnot would have been, like, exactly when my segment would have been. In fact, I know, I know this because I was listening to Bobby while sitting in the waiting room. Oh, that's right. We had Bobby, Bobby pinch hit it last Tuesday.

I forgot we did that. Yes. Well, I hope it all went well. Everything, everything go okay. We're all good in the hood. Yeah, yeah. He was, you know, he has ulcerative colitis. And this was sort of a follow-up check to see how well he's responding to the treatment.

And it started with like severe, you know, like the numbers they gave were as high as they could go, you know, for UC. And, you know, after a good, good round of. these biologics that are stupidly expensive, you know, but they work. He, he's down at like the lowest level. It's, they called it mild UC. And had he not skipped his last treatment because reasons, you know, the way these things work, UC is an autoimmune disease. And so the way that these things work is they sort of suppress your immune system so that

they, you know, it stops attacking your colon. right you know but in in the process of doing that it's suppressing your immune system which means you catch everything um and so at one point over the school year he in fact had you know the flu and strep throat at the same time and so he was like going into finals and decided you know i don't really want to be sick all the time going into finals so i'm just going to just going to kind of skip this one treatment just so i can get through and then i'll get back on it so I suspect if he hadn't done that, it would have, the scope would have shown complete remission. Yeah.

Man, that's rough. I'm so sorry he's going through that. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah, it is. It's sex. It's one of those things where like, you know, I know people who have it and live with it and it's, you know, once you're used to it and it kind of becomes the norm, kind of like

you, you know, not not eating sugar and, you know, like people who have dairy allergies, stuff like that. They just kind of work around that. but you know it's it's a it's a learning curve to get to that point and particularly when you're 19 years old and all you want to do is go out and be young and silly and you know you have to deal with this like that sucks not not not cool he's such a cool looking kid good looking he's got the world by the tail and hey uh why don't we have your body fight yourself that's fun let's have that happen boo yeah exactly and this is the one of the one

that did the podcast right or does the podcast uh yes the debate uh yes the we hate good movies we hate good movies podcast that's right yes that's him yep well tell them we wish him the best on all this stuff yeah absolutely i will let's uh i got a i got a quick thing for you before we get going you want to hear this call that someone said in because this this is basically my chance to give you credit where it is due you'll understand why when i play it here you go this to my eye and bucket boy this is dana calling for the morning stream and i do wanted to thank Scott for his recommendation of dungeon crawler Carl a couple weeks ago. I picked it up on Audible like a couple days after you mentioned it. I've been listening to it

constantly ever since. I'm hopping on a plane today. Freshly downloaded book three and I'm very much looking forward to it. So credit where it's due. This was Amy's recommendation, not mine. I loved the book after she recommended it. And I ripped through that first book like a wild person. I still need to get to two, but I got distracted. But yes, this was a, this was very much an Amy thing. Yeah. So credit words. You know what?

I have, I have, I have, I have very glad that everyone enjoyed that series or is enjoying that series. He's enjoying for me, yeah. Yeah, as much as, as I have because I, it's so strange. It's such, if I described it to you, it sounds so weird and dumb. But then, and I. I'd had a bunch of people recommend it to me and be like, oh, no, you got to check this out. You got to check this out. I'm like, okay.

And then finally, I was just looking for something to read. And I went to my TBR list and I said, okay, I'll check this out. And I was on, I had like a long drive. I think I was actually driving up to Nashville, interestingly enough, to hang out with my son for some other medical procedure. And I'm driving. And I listened to it. And man, after the first major battle, I, I had to pull over because I was just cackling.

I was like, what is this book? Yeah. It is one of the weirdest. It's one of those books where you have to have the right writing style to pull this off. Like this doesn't work in the wrong hands. And like I would be, I know there's talk of adaptations for TV and stuff. I, I, that's really scary because that's hard. That's a hard one to do.

Yeah. And honestly, I, I, I can't. I can't imagine that, I mean, if you've, if you've at all listened to the audio books of these, and I know, Scott, I know you like to, you know, read traditional books that, like, audiobooks you kind of tune out, but, man, the guy who does the audiobooks is so good. You would swear there's a full cast in there with him. And I can't imagine them getting anybody that's going to do as good a job, like, bringing this to to television as what what that guy reading it yeah like what what it does you know the the

hallucinations it induces in my brain you know the descriptions like you sent me a little clip so I get here because I've been reading reading and you send me a little clip so I could hear how he does the the tooltip windows that come up and the achievements and stuff like that and it it made me like oh man I feel like I am missing something by not doing the audiobook but I'm also So like Scott, if I do the audio book, I drift off and then all of a sudden it's two pages later and I can't remember anything that happened. I get so distracted. I don't know why. I don't know what that is.

I can sit and read a book, no problem, solid. I don't lose my place. I don't lose my brain. But if I'm doing audio, I just conk out. And I don't know why. And Chris describes it perfectly. Like I hear putty. I hear what's this Warburton when I read the book.

Yeah. Patrick Warburton. Well, interesting, fun fact. he actually has a cameo in one of the later audiobooks. No way. Patrick Warburton himself, yes. That's amazing. And I'm not going to say anything else because I don't want to spoil it.

But yeah, it's on the credits for the thing. So I don't feel like saying that is a spoiler because you would see it when you download the audiobook. But yeah, it's more incentive to keep going forward because it's worth it. This guy named Jeff Hayes is his name, is the reader? Jeff Hayes, yeah. I'm trying to find the samples on audible.com aren't playing for some reason. They're just spinning, but I was going to play a sample and see if I can get it to do it.

Yeah, make it, you know, make it animated, do an adaptation that's animated and get him to do the voice. I mean, you know. Animated would work. Yeah, I would, wouldn't it? In the right hand. I think you could do it, you could do it as an animated thing, maybe even a puppety thing, but I don't think you could. Oh, sure, you've got a little, you're sure you'd want to do it. You'd want, you'd want puppety thing, sure.

I mean, yeah. Like a little labyrinthy-looking, kind of deal would be great, actually. Heck, yeah. But get the animators who did Arcane, man. That was such great animation who would fit perfectly with that fantasy look of something like this. Sure. Oh, for sure, for sure. So, yeah.

I, you know, thank you for calling in and letting me know that. I never get tired of people telling me how much they dig dungeon crawl of Carl because I loved it. And I was like, oh, man, people have to read this. It's so, it's exactly, it's as like nerdy, but also irreverent as the tadpool. And so it's a perfect fit. And so it just makes my day when people enjoy it that much. It's also a kind of, it's a kind of book that reminds me that it doesn't give a crap what I actually think of it. It's hard for me to explain this.

Like it's not a book trying to be, it's not trying to coax me or be coy with me. It's just like, here's what I am. and you're going to either enjoy this or you're not. And if you don't, we'll F off. That's the feeling I get. And I think that's a hard thing to convey in a book about fantastic ideas. There's something about that that I respect and I can't even put my finger on it. I don't even know how to describe it.

No, it's a well, it was well described. Also, great to hear from Jaina. If that's the Jaina that I'm thinking it is. And we missed her at, we missed her at TMS Vegas this year. Wait, was it Jaina? Hey, this to my eye and Bucket Boy. This is Jena calling. Oh, I think it is, yeah.

Oh, it is, Gina. Okay. Hi, Jena. Jana. Excellent. Well, let's get to the books you brought today. We're going to go some fiction and some nonfiction. Where do you want to start?

Yes. So, all right. I don't know if Wendy mentioned this to you, but Chuck and I ran into her in the airport on the way out from Vegas. No way. So it was kind of funny. Like, we were walking through and Chuck just goes, hey, is that Wendy? And I was like, I think it is. Wendy.

And she looked over. And so we sat and, we sat and watched Wendy eat her lunch. until we were it was time for us to go board our plane um but you know we had a great little conversation there and uh we kind of talked a little bit about kind of the the whole the bear versus man zeitgeist thing and then uh you know layers of that and wendy actually recommended our non-fiction book to me so we'll start with that all right here you go information has many sources statistics are a kind of information yes but so is human experience And so I will argue that when we are designing a world that is meant to work for everyone,

we need women in the room. If the people taking decisions that affect all of us are all white, able-bodied men, nine times out of ten from America, that too constitutes a data gap, in the same way that not collecting information on female bodies in medical research is a data gap. And as I will show, failing to include the perspective of women is a huge driver of an unintended male bias that attempts, often in good faith, to pass itself off as gender-neutral.

This is what de Beauvoir meant when she said that men confuse their own point of view with the absolute truth. The female specific concerns that men fail to factor in cover a wide variety of areas. But as you listen, you will notice that three themes crop up again and again. The female body, women's unpaid care burden, and male violence against women. These are issues of such significance that they touch on nearly every part of our lives, affecting our experiences of everything from public transport to politics via the workplace and the doctor's service. surgery. But men forget them, because men do not have female bodies. They, as we will see, do only a fraction of the unpaid work done by women. And while they do have to contend with

male violence, it manifests in a different way to the violence faced by women. And so these differences go ignored, and we proceed as if the male body and its attendant life experience are gender neutral. This is a form of discrimination against women. Interesting. Who is the, is this the author talking? Who is this? Um, that's a good question. She's very familiar. Clark, if you ask you. Yeah, that's who it is. That's who it is. I was like, well, I don't know if it is, but I, but the, but that's what my brain is saying

it is. Brian's right. I could not place it. That's who that reminds me of. I don't know who it really is, but. Actually, it looks like she is the narrator, Carolyn Creado Perez. Okay. Yeah.

The author and narrator? Okay. Yes. Yeah, this is a fascinating book. And it's called Invisible Women, Data Bias in a world designed for men and i mean it's got a really really strong rating like a 4.7 so for something that is you know just feminist right up in your face that's a that's a really high bar right because you'd expect at least a few dudes to come across this and you vomit if i don't i don't agree i think it all

that day should be based on man right i mean well and And so, and now that I'm thinking back on it, the way we actually came to this conversation was we were discussing something that Chuck and Dr. Nicky were discussing on the hike, which was apparently the treatments for ovarian cancer are based on the treat the same treatments for testicular cancer, just because, oh, it's just in that same area. So, you know, so they were doing things like radiating the clitoris, which is obviously not necessary because it's like the ovaries are what have the cancer, not the joy button. So like, what are you doing? Radiating.

I'm trying to understand why they would do that. Yeah. Because like that's, you know, it's in that same area. They base the data on men. That's really stupid. I hate that. It is shocking once you start digging down into medical research, how little of it has been done on women's bodies. And like gynecological procedures, things of that nature were like, they're like the same as they were in, you know, the 1800s for the most part, you know, like specula and stuff like that, all that stuff invented by men who believed that, you know, women having a.

mood swing was hysteria and that they should be put in an institution. That's right. Right. Or put into a mental institution, right? I mean, and and it wasn't like now where it's like a grippy sock vacation. It's like, no, man, you get you get tortured in those places back then. And so, but still, a lot of the a lot of the treatments, a lot of the, you know, diagnostic tools, things of that nature, have not changed. I mean, if you guys go in to get your snippy snip, right, you get all kind of numbed up. Right. Like they, they just numb you from, you know, like they make sure you can't feel anything, right? This is true. We go in and I had to have, I had to have, before I had my hysterectomy, I had to have a cervical biopsy done where they basically, they go up there and they

take what's essentially, it looks like a like a staple remover. you know, those little things with like the two teeth on top and a tooth on the bottom. They basically go up in there and just go clunk and take a, take out a chunk of your cervix. You don't get any numbing. Oh my God. There's no numbing. Yeah. Yeah. Kim, Kim went through the same thing. She hated it. Yeah. I mean, obviously for my hysterectomy, I was under general, but you know, it's, it is, you'd be, you would be shocked how much women endure. That's why like there's all these videos of like, you know,

these little period simulators and stuff. And dudes are like just bending over, doubled over in pain and the women's just like laughing. Yeah. That's what it's like. Yeah. Like, like,

hey, you know, like this is, this is what we go through all the time. Yeah. And it's, it's true. And a lot of it is because of what,

uh, Ms. Perez here is, or probably Dr. Perez, I would, I would imagine, um,

is, identifying as data gaps um so it's and and the book is really well done in that it's a very dispassionate look at a very real problem like she could very easily be preachy and soapboxy about it she's not it's literally just hey here the numbers here's the data you know here's the actual amount of unpaid labor that women do you know and and get no credit for and here's the amount that men do and and just you know it's it's just numbers um you know and talking about like here's the amount of research that is done around women's health issues and the number spoiler alert is very very low um and so it's just literally shining a light on something and

it's not blaming anyone it's just pointing out like hey we as modern society have a data bias here that we need to recognize and address. And part of that is recognizing that, you know, white cis hetero males aren't the default. They're a category. And, you know, just as much as anything else is a category. And you can't, if you, if you, if you, if you treat anything as a default, then you're going to have a data bias. And so yeah, I thought it was really, really interesting and I really enjoyed it. So thank you to Wendy for recommending that. This one actually comes via Wendy. I thought it was really good. Just like a little airport recommendation there that you got drive by airports.

Right. That's great. That's great. Get it at the shop and fly right before you get on the plane. Invisible women, data bias, and a world design for men. Again, is the is the shut out of luck. title. Nice. She'll be here Thursday and I'll tell her that you loved it. They really like it. Awesome. Yes, please do. I will. All right. So then, next

up is our fiction piece. And this one, I had been dying to read this book since probably like banned book month last year, but just couldn't quite

get to it. And so I'm finally getting to it. all right well let's play the clip yeah here we go my father taught me that beekeeping is both a burden and a privilege you don't bother the bees unless they need your help and you help them when they need it's a feudal relationship protection in return for a percentage of the fruits of their labors he taught me that if a body is easily crushed it develops a weapon to prevent that from happening he taught me that sudden movements get you stung i took these lessons a bit too much to heart. By the time I come downstairs that morning, Asher is in the kitchen. We have a deal.

Whoever gets up first makes the coffee. My mug still has a wisp of steam rising. He is shoveling cereal into his mouth, absorbed in his phone. Morning, I say, and he grunts in response. For a moment, I let myself stare at him. It's hard to believe that soft-centered little boy who would cry when his hands got sticky with propolis from the hives can now lift a super full of 40 pounds of honey as if it weighs no more than his hockey stick. Asher is over six feet tall, but even as he was growing, he was never ungainly. He moves with the kind of grace you find in wildcats, the ones that can steal away a kitten or a chick before you even realize they've gone.

Is that Carrie Coon, I'm hearing? Do I hear that? Wow. Okay. Now that you say that, I totally hear it. I love her. Just to peel back the curtain a little bit, what I tend to do is I pull up the Goodreads pages. for these so that I'm prepared to like talk about the actual book and then I forget like oh right

they're probably going to ask me who's narrating it. Carrie Coon narrator nice job Scott I knew it sounded familiar I love her so it doesn't take much but yeah there's actually a few people listed as a narrator key taugh Jennifer Finn and and Jody Peacote is that how it's pronounced I never knew how how she pronounced her last name Yeah, I think it's like Peacole, Peacote, yeah, but like, Peacole, Peacole, but yeah, so. Okay. Yeah, so this is Mad Honey, a novel by Jody Peacolt, and co-written by Jennifer Finney Boylan. And it's, it's a great read.

It's technically it's a YA novel, but, I mean, there are some, there's some heavy stuff in here. So and it's it's a it's a cool book and the way the audio book does it is really good. That's why there's so many kind of narrators is because it switches between the points of view. So it's told in the first person and it, but it switches between the character of Olivia, who you heard there, who is the mom of, you know, good looking son named Asher. and then also narrated by the character of Lily. And so they get the different actors to really drive home that, okay, we've changed perspective now, which is really helpful. But yeah, so it flops between timelines and between points of view.

But essentially, you know, she gives you a little bit of background on herself. She's a beekeeper. she kind of inherited it from her father and and then one day she gets a call from from her son that his girlfriend is dead and you know he's being called in for questioning about it and so yeah that's kind of how they they come in hot at the beginning of this book and it's it's great it's it's a it's a good little it's got you know like a little teen romance love story but also there's a bit of a who done it going on um and you see kind of the the mom's perspective of how you know helpless and and you know just just awful it must feel for your kid to be accused of something um that you of course are sure he didn't do but so said every mom of a guilty person ever, right? Um, so, you know, so we get, we get doubts in addition to Olivia's doubts and, you know, and then the story kind of works, it kind of bookends itself, right? We're telling,

we're telling things from the present day forward with Olivia. And then, uh, we go backward in time with Lily. So we go, you know, from the day she was killed and then we work our way backward. And that those are kind of sprinkled in there. So, and it's neat to see how it kind of unfolds and there's there's different cool reveals and things like that. So yeah, I definitely definitely recommend it. It's a good, it's a good fun read if you like a kind of a murder mystery kind of a thing. And, you know, like I say, there's a bit of a young adult romance in there, but it's spicier than

most of the YA stuff I've read. Sure. Yeah. Hearing your description and reading the description on Goodreads, it's like, wow, this is way more than I'd expect from a YA novel. Yeah. It's definitely, it's got layers to it. And I say, there's some love scenes in there that are a little spicy for some YA content. So there you go. Birds and the bees, apparently, is what you know. When a man loves a woman.

you did. Hey, yeah. Nicely done. Well, that sounds good. Check it out. Both available on quicktms. Brian's got those all listed up there.

So if you are wanting to look back at those, Christine Fletcher, please do. And I think that's going to do it. Amy, it's always good having you on. I hope, you know,

before we see you again, you have nothing but great times. And I hope your son feels better and all these things, I hope are true. Thanks. Yeah, me too. Check out that I'm going to actually be on

with TV's Travis this Sunday, we're doing a wait you haven't seen about the Iron Giant. Oh, wow. That's cool. That movie is a big whoop in my house. We got posters in the living room. My kids all grew up on that thing. I cannot believe you haven't seen that. But be prepared. You're going to love it. It's going to be great. I can't believe it either. I think when it came out, the timing of it was I just kind of missed it. And then it never bubbled up to the top of my list. But now, you know, I know so many people that are like, oh, my God, you got to see that. Apparently, Travis hasn't seen it yet either. Oh, geez.

All right. Well, that'll be more fun. That thing came out totally tanked at the box office. And then people started seeing it, however, VHS and DVD later or whatever. But it just after that, it was like an all-time classic and will always be one of the greatest things ever made. It's so good. Well, apparently, that's like, you know, the best. way to consume your vin diesel is either like as a giant tree or a giant robot so he you know

that's where he does his best work there's even a reference in the first guardians movie that is this that is a reference to the iron giant so watch for that oh oh okay just a little moment there I want to give it to a mature way because it's really fun to discover yeah get a sec uh and also a big Superman connection, but that's a whole separate thing. Sure. Anyway, awesome. Well, Amy, have a fantastic time. Tell Chuck to not drink all the good stuff, and then we'll

see you later. I know. Okay. All right. What do we have here? We have the end of the show is what we have here. That's right. Quick note, though, today, noon, live right here at frogpants.tv. Pick your poison, Twitch, or YouTube. It's all there. We're going to be doing a live

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I love that. I love that this is, you know, this is the way they're running the business there. It's way more transparent, way more accessible to the fans. Plus it's also just like, I don't know, it's nice to see. in an industry that everyone is so damn careful about leaking information. They're just like, you know what, here, here's what we're doing.

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I think it's going to do it for us. frogpants.com slash TMS for all things this show. So go use that at your leisure. Brian, we got to play a song. Tell us what we're playing. Let's get out of here. Yes, we do. September, our own 9 of 12 here in the chat,

is not in chat right now. Rob is, kind of giving us details. But September says, I'm going in for surgery on May 14th. Seemed to be a good time to request a song. I'll have to listen to the show later, as I'll be under the knife during the live show. So this request is for me, buy me.

Good luck. Don't die. Oh, my gosh. All right, geez. Yeah, and her original request was a cover of Under the Knife by Rise Against, and we went back and forth. I had a couple versions. It's like, I could not find a really good, well-recorded version.

There was a good acoustic version by a dude on YouTube, but he recorded fairly crappily, so it did come out very well. So her follow-up request was a cover of the Depeche Mode song, but not tonight. And I'm like, oh, well, I've got a great cover of that by, legendary STP frontman late great Scott Wayland This was included on the 2001 soundtrack To Not Another Teen Movie

Oh my gosh And it's a terrific cover of This was the way I discovered the song actually And being a big Depeche Mode fan It's kind of surprising that I Discovered the song this way Scott Wayland and his cover of Depeche modes But Not Tonight

See you guys tomorrow I got it's running. It's filling me up with me a light. Those stars in the sky and tears to my eyes. They're lighting my way tonight. And I haven't felt some light. Just for a chance for one day on the tail like today, I'll know today, like today, I'll get away, I'll get away from this. in deep of chrie

the wind in my hair makes me so aware how good it is to live tonight and I haven't felt so alive in years The moon over shining in the sky Reminding me

reminding me of so many other nights But they're not light tonight Oh, God is raining and I'm not containing my pleasure at being some wet. Here on my own my own home. on my own how good it feels to be alone tonight

and I haven't felt so alive in years the moon shining in the sky beneath so many other nights when my eyes have been so red I've been mistaken for death but no tonight

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