The Morning Stream - TMS 2648: Backyard Funyun Factory
Episode Date: May 22, 2024Carter can move the hornets. The MangoLeers. Distracting familiars. Skinny For No Reason. ALL YOU CAN EAT RICE!! Salem's not a Lot, with Dunaway. Eleven Hooha Sixy-three. Not Heirloom Tomatoes. People... like typing two letters. Misery's on First. Kojak: Who Bites You Baby? Length but no Girth. Nutty but not in Flavor. Casual, Comfortable, Suspicious Tom Merritt. Alien Dogs and Cats of All Kinds with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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While I was out near the South 40, rounding up cattle for the winter, I had a thought come to me.
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Coming up on the morning stream, Carter can move the hornets.
The Mangaliers.
Distracting familiars.
Skinny for no reason.
Oh, you can eat rice!
Salem's not a lot with Dunaway.
Eleven hoo-ha 63.
Not heirloom tomatoes.
People like typing two letters.
Misery's on first.
Cojack, who bite you, baby?
Length, but no girth.
Nutty, but not in flavor.
Casual, comfortable, suspicious, Tom Merritt.
Alien dogs and cats of all kinds,
with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
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You're exactly the kind of guy I want to replace me as leader of hell.
When I grip you, you know that you've been gripped.
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MSS. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, May 22nd, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian David. Hi. Good morning.
Oh, oh, hi. Oh, my gosh. We're here. Oh.
Yeah, look at us. Look at us. Here, Johnny's on the spot. Johnny on the spots. Johnny's on the spot. Johnny's on the spot. That's right. Air pods pro. That's right. Johnny's on the spot. We're here. We're making it happen. We got a whole Wednesday pile of goo to get through. And it's nice to see all the familiars in the chat today. Nice to see you guys.
A little familiars. Yes. They're like our weird hybrid animal fantasy.
Exactly. Yes. They follow us around to help us quest.
Yeah, they're the best.
They are familiar as you.
You're the absolute best.
Thank you for being here.
My backyard smells like onions, and I'd like to explain.
Okay.
So Carter and Kim are doing, like, garden stuff, you know, planting vegetables and whatnot.
They're gardening, yeah.
They're gardening.
There's a word for it, yeah, gardening.
And in this garden, there are leeks and green onions and I think shallots.
Anyway, those three things are combining
So that when you go out into the yard
And they're just growing
The whole yard
It just smells like we are making
onions for the world
We are the funnion factory in the backyard
Is what it smells like
I don't know what's going on with that
But all that I don't know if the neighbors can tell
I don't know if anyone can tell
Else can tell
But all I have to do is open that door
And I'm hit with it like a wall
Like oh my gosh
Where's all these onions coming from?
Wow
Yeah
And it'll be great
Because this is all stuff
they're going to cook with.
Yeah, I mean, that is such a staple.
I mean, that is a great thing to grow yourself because, you know,
you use it in just about every meal you cook.
You guys got a little gardeny thing?
We do.
Yeah, we grow rhubarb.
We grow rhubarb, I guess is how we pronounce it.
We grow strawberries, carrots.
Tina can tell you the rest.
Tomatios.
Oh, we're growing tons of tomatios.
We're doing those, too.
Because I love making tomatoa salsa.
Yeah.
We always have a few of those this year.
We're also doing these weird tomatoes.
They're not called...
They're not...
Airloom.
Well, that's what I thought.
But Kim says they're not heirloom.
There's some other name.
Oh.
And they're coming out purple, which is like the heirlooms.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they have some other name.
Yeah.
Something weird.
Shoot.
Those are always so good, though.
I freaking love those.
Those are good, too.
Yeah.
So I'm looking forward to those.
We've got cherry tomatoes going.
you mentioned strawberries we have those two and what else i forgot what she told oh basil
uh citronella keeping the mosquitoes away seems to work and um and a new hornet's nest we have to
decide what to do it oh no really yeah i think i'm going to spray it today carter wants me
to like salvage them you know put them in a jar and take him somewhere of course she does yeah
but i don't want yeah good luck with that yeah she could do that how about how about uh she does
that.
Yeah. Her job.
Her job, not my job.
Right. Right.
Yeah, either that or I'm spraying it. It's one way or the other.
So she wants these things to survive.
She's going to have to do the work.
I'd like you to move these great white sharks by hand to a different part of the ocean, please.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
I'm not doing your dirty work.
Freaking bees.
I mean, bees are one thing.
Bees are great.
We love bees.
Hornets.
Yeah.
Ground bees, like we talked about yesterday.
I'm not so fond.
Don't love that.
But whatever.
Yeah.
I haven't experienced ground bees.
I don't know what that's like.
but one day
one day perhaps we will experience it
anyway if you come near my house and you wonder why
it smells like somebody's making
you know funions you know why
because it really has that
that art not artificial smell
I actually like that smell
but it can be overwhelming for sure
yeah and have it just overstay
it's welcome you know
I'm told that what will happen here
is that these bulbs will start to grow and spread
and do their thing and then it will stop smelling
like onions until they're ripe and then they'll smell
like onions again. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah. We'll see if that holds.
Hey, we get a lot of cool people in our community who know stuff, who are smart about things.
One of those people, regular people, is Dr. Nicky, who knows lots of things. She's amazing.
She also knows more about sheep and goats than you will ever know. She knows what brains smell like.
She's the one that smelled the brains. And she sent in a call regarding you can eat rice.
and I remembered last night with this said this morning I completely forgot what she said
so we're going to learn together what she said about that here we go
hey Scott and Brian for TMS this is Nikki I think I solved the and you can eat
rice and now I don't remember the specifics around when that happened but the other day
I went to a Chinese restaurant and when I was leaving I saw a friend in the parking lot
and I kind of yelled they have all you can eat rice and it kind of set off fire alarms in my
brain for TNX. Could this be
the solution? I don't know. Love
the show now. I don't know if it's a solution. I mean,
the way the story goes, she doesn't know the origin of
this, I guess. I know. She's thinking it's like
somebody passing you on the road, like explosive
tip or fart gas or things like that.
Yeah, it's not one of those. This was the thing where
my friend Andrew worked at Hunan Express.
He let the rice burn.
Two big
things of rice just
burned. And when he came
back from his break,
let's see if I can find the clip. I'll play
because I don't want to do it.
I don't have the energy this morning to yell this.
No, and that clip is so, it's so well done.
Here it is.
This is what he yelled.
He came out with the two pots of burnt rice.
Andrews standing in the doorway.
This guy, very angry, takes the two pots,
slams him on the ground, and yells this.
Then you can eat rice!
Oh, I know what it was.
There was other stuff, too.
Before that, he says,
You hungry?
You hungry?
You want some food?
like that and then Andrew's like sure I guess
and he was so pissed
so yeah Nicky I appreciate it but
that is that was already a solved mystery
yeah but I do like the oh they have all you can eat rice
I mean it's a great thing to hear
in reference to it so thank you for bringing that to us
that was great also Harold agrees with you Brian
that results shirts are very good
Roosevelt's and I said results again.
I know. See, you look at that
and the V, because we're so used to churches,
right? Yeah. We're so used to
looking at churches. To birches.
Instead of the U.
Spelling it different. We love the churches.
We love them.
You think he would like the churches
or do you think he's
a very biblical band,
the churches. We're big fans of the churches
in my house. That's what they would do.
That's what he would do. He would
use it as he would think it was religious
and that somebody gets in points.
Also a big fan of the Mumford and Sons.
We love families.
Not such a big fan of bare-naked ladies.
Not such a fan.
And the truth is he's a huge fan.
Huge fan of the bare-naked ladies.
But anyway, yeah, Rosald's shirts.
Yeah, I almost wore one today, but decided I was going to support my West Hammers today.
Oh, is there a big game or something?
What's going on?
There was this last weekend.
I did not see the final score.
against Manchester United.
Let me take a look, but I'm sure it wasn't good because, I mean, you know.
Manchester dominates.
They're the Yankees of the freaking soccer business, aren't they?
Yeah, yeah.
They get all the best picks.
They get all the best trades.
They get all the money.
Yep, exactly.
They're like the Lakers.
They just buy themselves to victory.
No offense, L.A.
No, no.
Yeah, 3-1.
man city versus west ham i mean you know one is respect in soccer yeah exactly exactly right
yeah but it's a low scoring game i think that that's uh you know there's some praiseworthy content right
there yeah well anyway harold thanks for the text we appreciate you uh confirming that the
roosevelt's shirts are good yes i think i'm gonna get one i just got to pick a good one i like
and get it i know it's tough it's tough and they and they're they're a slimmer fit
right now they're uh i think i mentioned this is like there are a lot of enticement for me to
uh to keep cycling and eating better and losing this gut because i want to make it uh fit a little bit
better but they're they're a slimmer fit so make sure you get you know an appropriate size that
that fits well for you well in in related news we also got something from step step as a local
okay here in salt lake city and she wrote this and said this is about buckies again
where you can get these shirts.
She says, I went to the Buckees in Denver on my drive home back from Salt Lake City this morning.
Oh, no, I guess it's back home from Salt Lake City?
I assume she's from here.
Anyway.
Oh, yeah, it says right there at the bottom.
Okay.
She was from here for a while.
Yeah, there's some back and forth going on here, right?
This is that stuff.
She worked here helping animals at a place where we took our dog.
That's right.
Yeah.
She says, okay, I yelled at my friend to pull over because we had to see it.
She says in parentheses.
Bucky's is the most American place I've ever been.
She says it's obnoxiously big.
Shirts that say 1776, sure, I'm playing pickleball.
No, no, no, no.
Get that percentage and it's important to the thing.
Oh, 1776% sure I'm playing pickleball.
I miss the percentage, which I have 1,776 regrets for not buying, she says.
Absolutely nothing in the vicinity is vegan.
and there was a voting booth in their giant bathrooms.
If there was one of their giant bathrooms, I'd vote for America!
I'm 100% obsessed. Praise the beaver.
XO says Steph, the very vegan liberal snowflake in Salt Lake City.
She is great.
She took us to a fantastic, or maybe we took her.
I can't remember.
I think it was new for both of us, but we knew about it.
We took her to a vegan place in the highlands here outside of Denver
and had a wonderful meal, and it was a bummer,
because she was leaving, like, the next week or something.
And she'd been here for months.
And our first and last time hanging out with her while she was in Denver,
and we were so bummed that we didn't get a chance to hang out with her more.
Well, Steph, give me a call.
You live here now.
We can go do something, you know?
Don't get some vegan in LSLC.
Yeah, show me the best vegan places.
I know there's a sandwich place downtown.
Everyone loves that's supposed to be amazing vegan sandwiches, and I have never been.
She probably knows about it, I'm guessing.
Yeah.
Carter knows about it, but she's not here to tell me the name.
Brian, you got a little thanks you want to throw out here at the end?
Dude, I have got to throw out a massive thank you, and he told me not to, but I'm going to do it anyway.
Sorry, man.
Yeah, back when I'd come back from the Southeast meetup from last year,
and I had played, returned to Dark Tower with Amy and a couple other tadpullers down there,
I said, oh, my God, I've got to get this.
game and Mike reached out to me and said hey I bought the Kickstarter for it and then my family
said that they don't want to play it so damn I'll I'll happily sell it to you and I'm like oh yeah
no problem and I you know said it's going to have to be a while because I don't have a lot of like
you know we're podcasters we know that things get tight sure and uh still recovering from
losing a couple of my clients during uh COVID sadly sadly yeah um
But anyway, he surprised me by just sending it to me out of the blue and saying,
Here, you're going to enjoy it more than we will.
And so it is the freaking, I kidding, the box is too big.
But it is the freaking Kickstarter deluxe big collection of Return to Dark Tower with the two giant neoprene playmats and all the plastic pieces instead of the little cardboard pieces.
and it's the one everybody wants right that's the one it's the one everybody wants and it was just
incredibly incredibly generous of mike to send that mike has already been generous he came out
here to denver uh maybe a year or so ago and brought me a uh a challenge coin um he's in the military
brought me a challenge coin and then they went and saw space force the uh the space force location
when they were here and so uh brought me a space force t-shirt as well so see the dude that's in
he's not the Navy guy is he different guy uh different guy because I also got a challenge coin
but I don't know if it was him we get a lot of military listeners so I think we do yeah yeah yeah
I'm probably just I'm mixing oh my gosh I'm gonna screw this up but I want to say he's in the
air force and that's why he was um here in uh well because air force is adjacent to the space
force right they're kind of aren't they kind connected or whatever I don't know how yeah yeah
yeah they were they were in the same now they're uh two
very far apart facilities.
One's near Colorado Springs.
The other one is kind of by Aurora.
The Space Force is near Aurora.
It's their fifth anniversary, by the way,
the United States Space Force.
Exactly.
Exactly right, yes.
We got, I wonder how they're doing out there.
They got the space, keeping it safe, I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know what they do.
I don't know what they do.
Space lasers, you know, space lasers.
If somebody wants to ride him from the Space Force,
and tell us, just give us a brief description
of what's going on.
Honestly, I'd really like to know.
I'd really don't get it.
Yeah, I would too.
Yeah.
Because I don't know what they're doing.
I'm sure they're doing something.
Like, I'm not, this is not me, you know, throwing shade.
I really don't know what they do.
So someone tell me.
I assume it's if we're...
Pence knew.
Pence knows what they're doing.
I guess so.
He was a big deal for that.
All right.
Well, that's cool.
Thanks, Mike.
That was awesome for you to do that.
We're going to play Tad Pooley Feud now.
That requires a couple of things.
things. Excuse me. Number one, I have to add Dunaway to the call. Number two, I have to pick
somebody from our tadpool who is now pinging me to get in here. Let's see who number three is.
Oh, gosh, they're coming in hard and fast. Hold on. Hello. Holy smokes. All right, we're going to
just go. All right. She's Louises. Hold slow down. Okay. We're going to do, we're going to do Becca
smiles, looks like, is our third person. Oh, cool. Excellent. I feel like we feel like we've
had peck on maybe once or twice
I'll find out.
Well, well, well, what do we have here?
It's time for us to play Ted Pooley feud.
First of all, let's welcome Brian back.
He's here.
Hi, Brian, Dunaway.
What's up?
Oh, hi, Scott and Brian.
How was your day?
Oh, it's not over yet.
So far so good.
How about yours, sir?
Yeah.
I cannot complain.
Who would even listen?
No one.
We wouldn't.
We would hang up.
If you started complaining, we would just hang up.
the phone. That's right. I know. I know how it is. I'm a fair weather friend. I get it. Yeah,
I get it. With us also, Becca smiles. Hello, Becca. Hello. Hello. Hello, Becca. Oh, hi. You there.
Hi. Yeah, I'm here. Hi. Nice to have you here. How are you? I'm great. Oh, fantastic. Thank you for joining.
Becca was awesome when we did the pond earlier this year, the play date game where we did
bunch of trivia questions for
taking territories and want to do it again.
Becca helped write a ton of those
questions. That's awesome.
So she's no stranger to trivia.
Yeah, no, she's probably going to...
Help again. Yeah, you're probably going to make one
of us win more than we would have
otherwise, so thank you for that. Real quick
note, you just remind me something, Brian, because remember how
well, obviously you remember it, but al-cabab
was very helpful in all that process, right?
Yes, yes. So yesterday, I get in the mail,
Al-Kabab's
Stitch name that we all
A bunch of people ordered him
And got him for Vegas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
It came to me for some reason
Send it to you, did he come from?
It came from Abby
And so I got to, yeah, so I've contacted
I haven't heard back yet,
but I think she just screwed up
And put my address,
But it says to Al-Kab, it's his name,
It's all that stuff, so
I wonder if he got one that says
Maybe, I mean, I already got mine
So I don't know what happened there
Yeah, I'll just forward it to him
It's not a big deal.
but it's just kind of funny that it came to me.
Anyway, let's get this going.
Brian, explain these rules.
What's on, what's at stake?
You know, that kind of stuff.
Oh, my gosh, so much at stake.
It's time to play the tadpulli feud.
I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics.
And Scott and Borgon, after pretty answers that they gave us.
It's their job to see how many of those answers.
They can guess, Becca, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian.
Oh, my God.
And if your team wins, you'll get a package.
That includes Omen, Exito.
and Beyond the Long Night.
No idea what these two are.
Both the games courtesy of King Quimazabi.
Quimazabi.
Yeah, I don't know what those are.
Done a way you heard of these?
Don't know what these are.
Neither of them. Nope. I don't know those.
I usually know, but I don't know today.
I know. These are brand new to all of us.
So cool. Excellent.
All right.
But to get those, you got to win.
And to win, we got to play.
We got to have a question to start things off.
So please, Scott, Brian, put your hands.
hands on your buzzers and give me your best
answer to this. We asked 492
Tadpoolers to name
a Stephen King novel.
Scott.
It.
Show me. Show me it.
Show me it. Show me it.
Yeah, number one answer. People like typing two letters.
Tadpoolers, lazy. Lazy as
as hell, those guys. Okay, cool.
So it's me and Becca. I like that.
You and Becca, no answers can beat it. So
So, Scott, you and Becca have control of the board.
Night answers on the board.
You've got one point.
Becca, I don't know if this makes you lucky or what this makes you,
but I am a massive Stephen King fan, so I've got a lot on my head.
But do you have any that pop into your head that we could try first?
The stand pops in my head.
That's my favorite one.
I mean, that would be number one if I had to pick.
So I'm going to agree with you and say, the stand.
Cool.
Show me where you put your iPad.
Oh, it's on the stand.
Number two answer on the board in three points.
Along's up there.
Scott and Becca team.
Oh, boy.
Now it gets interesting because...
Okay, Brian, question for the judge.
Yes, and the answer is yes.
Okay.
I know what you're going to ask.
Well, and if it's a big series of books, I compiled them all into one.
All right.
If that's the case, then I'm pretty sure that Becca and I should say Dark Tower here at some point.
Yes.
Yeah, let's put that on it.
All right.
Show me the Dark Tower.
Yeah.
Yeah, number three.
So here's the deal.
Like, a lot of people just put The Dark Tower, which I know is the final book in the series,
but I'm sure they meant the Dark Tower series, whereas a few other people put Gunslinger,
which is the first book in that series.
The other books in the series, maybe one, some of those one person said, but nobody said,
nobody said more than one of those.
So it's like, yeah, I'll just lump those all into the Dark Tower.
Anybody to do Wizard and Gloudering?
Glass or...
One person said Wizard and Glass.
Yes.
There should have been more.
That book is so good.
Yeah, no, that's great.
It makes sense that you would lump them, though.
All right.
Becca, what's another one here?
I believe I said The Shining.
Oh, yeah, the Shinnon.
Let's do it.
The Shinnon.
The Shinnon.
Yeah.
Kids got the Shinnon.
All right, show me the Shining.
Sweet.
Yeah, number four.
Going down the line here.
Right down the line.
10 points. Just 1, 2, 3, 4.
Let's toss out Salem's Lot, his first published work.
Salem's Lot.
A lot of OG Stephen King fans in the chat in the tadpool.
So let's see if Salem's Lot...
Oh, come on.
Not a lot of Salem's Lot up there.
No.
That's lame. That's a great book.
It holds up, man. It's really, really good.
All right, Brian, you're going to have to make us look bad now.
we'll see we'll see i have a feeling it's gonna be like
oh i don't know okay um still i'm gonna go so so much
material to choose from yeah there's so freaking many
even my even even even zoie my daughter she's got like uh
i went in a room a little day and she's got like three stephen king
books like old paperbacks all beat the hell and everything
and i'm like you get these from the library and i'm like sweet i didn't tell it to read
stephen king she just found them doing it on her own nothing wrong yeah
Yeah, and then my, okay, so I'm going to go with, I'm going on with Kujo.
There's so many.
Sure, sure.
All right.
Show me that sweet, lovable dog.
Cujo.
Oh, man.
That's right.
Joey hides it in the freezer so it doesn't get him from friends.
Isn't that right?
Yeah.
That's right.
Seven points for Brian for that one.
And this is how prevalent Stephen King is in my life.
I met with a friend of mine or the weekend in an eight.
some lunch with him
and he showed me in his
car he said oh I got this big
box of stuff I'm moving and he showed me
his Christine book
is there a Christine up there
let's see all right show me
Christine
number 10
17 points now
taking the lead Brian
yeah shit in luck
dot com right there
can I
can I get a little bit of
Carrie. Can I get some
Carrie? Sure. Is that a song? Hold on.
Yeah, there is. It's a
Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons.
No, that's Sherry.
Yeah, it's Sherry. I don't think there's a
Carrie, is there?
Carrie, I leave on the road that I must travel.
I can't control what my brain thinks.
It's a Carrie, but, yeah, there's Carrie Ann.
Oh, Carrie Ann.
Carrie, let's do that.
show me carry
nice
number five
damn it Brian
your pony
taking a big lead
and only three answers
on the board
that have not been selected
we're getting poned
uh
no we got three left
I got three left and we got
I think we're going to get this
regardless I think we're going to get all of them
you guys have five strikes between the two of you
and three answers and
and you can do this
yeah I feel good about it
um
I'm going to go
Oh shoot
I had one on my head
And then it disappeared
So I'm going to go with my backup
I'm going to go with the books
I read in one sitting
It was misery
Oh
And what was the book?
It sounds like
Misery
It was misery
I read it was misery
I read it
I know
I know you said that
You said that you read it
In one sitting
And it was misery
What book was
It was beautiful
It was a beautiful experience
It was in a car ride
And I wrote the whole
We went
I think it was coming down
From Boston
Yeah
And you did not put it down
You read the whole thing
I read the whole thing
I read the whole thing.
You're not one of those people who gets car sick if you read while you're in a car in a moving vehicle.
No, that's just when I'm driving.
All right.
What?
You get car sick if you read while you're driving?
Yeah, I was going to let that one go, but now that you said.
I was going to see.
I was going to see.
I was like, you're right?
Wait a minute.
Wait a bit.
All right.
Show me your misery.
Oh, hey, ho, hey, ho.
12, just one out of the contention of getting a free turn if you were to guess it.
All right.
If you guess number 11, you don't get any points, but you do get to guess again.
What do you think is more likely on here?
I don't want to give Brian one, so maybe I won't do that.
How do you feel about the stuff that isn't his norm, but also crazy popular, like Shawshank Redemption?
Yeah, I was just thinking about Richard Bachman's stuff.
Yeah.
Do you think Shawshank's on here?
it probably is that's super popular yeah i don't even think most people have read the short story
it's a relatively short book yeah i was kind of thinking about what movies have people seen
that are the mangler the mangler the mangler's that you mean there's no mangler there's a mangler
there's a mangler you never watched the mangler no is it really is it really a three-syllable
word brian mangler yes mangler oh it's an old movie isn't it an old horror movie
movie. It's not, but that's not Stephen King, is it?
I don't think so. Well, anyway.
Let's go with Shawshank, just because
I think the popularity's got to be there, so
let's do it. Why not? All right, show me
the Shoshank Redemption.
Holy shit on a stick.
Yeah, Rita Hayworth
on the Shashank Redemption. A short story
made it to number 18 in the list, but not
a novel. So people might have been looking
at that word in the question
and taking it very literally and saying,
It's not a novel, so.
I don't think the tadpole does.
I don't either.
I'm glad Becca said it because I don't either.
18 people didn't, anyway, at least.
Sure.
All right, Brian, you got to do this.
You got to fill these holes, man.
Boy, all of a sudden, these three that looked like they were going to be really easy for you to get are starting to become a little worse.
No, it's even worse is now I feel like I've already said everything that's in my head.
I'm like, oh, we missed three.
And was that one of the three?
because I'm like, did I already say
Pet Cemetery?
No, you did not.
I can tell you that nobody said it.
If it can't tell me.
All right, I'm going to go with Pet Cemetery.
All right.
You're not supposed to tell me.
No, I'm not supposed to tell you.
It's not fair.
It's not fair to tell you.
You're supposed to pay attention.
Okay, show me Pet Samattery.
Sometimes, Ted is better.
Six.
That is better.
I mean, now you really have to,
you really have to do this, Brian,
because there's no way
Becca can win
unless I'm pulling for that, come on.
Well, no, if, wait.
Oh, right.
I'm pulling for winning.
The highest you can get is 27 now.
Yeah, damn it.
We need to run the board.
You got three strikes.
You can do this.
All right.
Okay, so I'm going to start throwing stuff out then
because, I mean, we got like,
I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about,
this game now all of a sudden just turned into collab.
That's right.
I'm thinking about Fire Starter.
I'm thinking about the big collection.
I keep by my bed and, like, different seasons.
I like reading the Dead Zone, those kind of things.
Dead Zone's real good.
Dead Zone's not, but Dead Zone's part of a larger tone, though, right?
It's like a short story.
Yeah.
Is it?
I thought Dead Zone is its own thing.
No.
Maybe it is.
Now I'm forgetting.
Yeah, I don't remember either.
How about needful things?
You like needful things?
That's a good one.
I like needful things, but I don't remember reading the book.
I remember reading insomnia, and it took me a freaking six months to read that one.
I love an insomnia.
I don't know why that one took so long.
I kept falling asleep while I was trying to read that one.
I kept falling asleep.
That's what was so hilarious about it.
The worry that I have is a lot of these books I absolutely love, but I just know, like Cell, which is the one he made about zombie.
People zombed out because of a signal on their cell phones is not like in anyone's top 10, but I really like that book.
I love that book.
They market the craft out of it, but yeah, it didn't do too well.
I liked it.
I think needful things is the place to go to.
Okay.
I think needful things.
Give me some needful things.
I need it.
Show me your needful things.
Shit!
No.
Needful things.
Low on the list.
Low, get low, get low.
I'm sorry.
I don't think anybody said needful things now that I'm looking at this list.
Scott said it?
Well.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
There it is.
Number 13.
It was higher than I was a kid.
expected okay good okay um well shit it's back to us um you said christine that's number 10 right
yeah we said yeah yeah um did we do yeah pet cemetery um the green mile that's but they didn't
like shawshank redemption yeah that was another novella thing yeah i don't know if when if they didn't
count shashank i just don't see how green miles on here what about the time travel one ooh that
at, uh, yeah, oh, 11,
11, 23 and me, what is it?
11.21. 11.12. 63?
A lot of numbers. Yeah, 11.
63 is the only part I remember.
11.22.63 is the name. Let's, let's try.
And you know what? Hold on.
We like that better than Carrie.
Oh, no, Carrie's on there. Shit. Never mind.
Oh, yeah. We said carry. All right. Let's do it.
11 hoo-ha 63. Let's do it.
Show me 11 hoo-ha, 63.
Okay. Number nine. All right.
One hands are left.
And you know, we got.
We've got two chances here because we could hit number eight or we could hit number 11.
Oh, true.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, right.
All right.
Well, I loved Mr. Mercedes, but did anyone else read that?
Oh, I did.
Loved it.
No one ever reads that one, though.
I think that's mine and Scott's thing.
I love that series.
The other thing that comes to mind just because the TV show was popular would be Under the Dome.
Oh, yeah.
I really like the book a lot.
I never could read it.
I started that book like five times.
You should have, you should have pushed through.
It's very good.
It cuts a cow in half, that dome.
Yeah, that dome comes down and chops.
Spoiler.
Yeah, I feel like...
I saw The Simpsons movie.
I'm good.
How popular was Dr. Sleep?
Did that do well as a book?
Oh, the follow-up to the shining.
I enjoyed it.
I liked it.
I liked the movie a lot.
Didn't read the book.
Oh, my gosh, you guys, I don't know.
Becca, what?
You know what, Becca, what do you think?
exactly
yeah I don't know
this is a hard one
what's the chat room saying it
I don't want to screw you know
bag of bones
yeah they're mentioning a lot of ones you're saying
oh I should get in here
the glorious
Clairbor did
that's not that's not
that Dolores
whatever it is not a
I don't like that Clairborn
is that right
I didn't like that
And Running Man was a short story
for sure
but they may have said it's a tadpole
so yeah
oh shit
Tommy knockers
my friends
loved that in high school
the mist
is also awesome
but also I think
we all responded
to that one
yeah
I think we say the mist
yeah
the mist
is it good
all right
all right
okay
the mist
show me the mist
show me the mist
number 11
Oh, so we get a chance.
You get another, yes.
Okay.
The mist intrigued me because Stephen King said he liked the movie ending better than his own ending.
Oh, nice.
That is interesting.
It's a heartbreaking ending, yeah.
Yeah, I think it is a better end.
I agree with them.
I think it's a good.
Yeah, I agree with them.
They're both prepared, so I don't know how the movie.
Oh, no, we talked about that when he's film sacked, what the book ending is, yeah.
Yeah.
Did we do?
Finner always freaked me out.
I like Gerald's Game and the Outsiders.
Oh, George's game.
The outsider, not outsiders, outsider, I believe.
Outsider.
Yeah, the outsider was awesome.
And that series they did on HBO is so good.
That series was great, yeah.
Yeah, very good.
O'Henters was S.E. Hinton.
Oh, hell, dude.
Stephen King should think us for all the free book talk today.
Jesus.
Yeah.
How about?
The chat room has been, you know, I mean, they've been shouting.
everything, but they have been shouting the
correct, the final answer, the
correct one, but that won't help you because they've been
shouting a dozen of these.
Um, okay, well,
the green mull is shouting a hint.
The doctor's sleep. Everybody's saying, doctor's sleep.
No, how about, what about thinner and
stand by me? You don't want to throw those
out. Ooh, stand by me.
And that maybe not thinner, but
stand by me is a big one. I think
thinner is good. It's pretty thin.
It's thin. It's thin.
Shit, you guys.
I don't know.
Bro, we're making Brian choose.
It's his turn anyway, right?
No, it's your turn.
His and my turn?
You got the thing.
Yeah, you got 11, 22, 60.
It's on you, baby.
It's on you now.
Shit, shit, shit, shit.
Just say one.
Let's just get the server with.
All right.
Let's do Dr. Sleep.
Let's put it in.
Okay.
Show me Dr. Sleep.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, where is that one?
Let's see here.
Oh, no.
tied for 28th place.
One person said Dr. Sleep.
Give me the Green Mile.
No, wait.
Okay.
Yeah, no, go ahead.
Show me the Green Mile.
Don't worry, back in.
You butt holes.
Anyway.
Oh, you got it anyway.
Look at that.
Number eight.
Green Mile.
Wow.
How is that up there?
And Shawshank is not up there.
I don't understand.
Green Mile is a series.
It's a serial novel as opposed to being one of an anthology, one part of an
anthology.
No, but I don't think the Tadpool's thinking of that.
It's a novel the same way The Dark Tower is a novel.
I didn't read the Green Mile until Tom Hanks was on the cover.
Yeah, that was your first one.
Right, I know.
I know exactly the version you're thinking of it.
Dang, that was crazy.
All right, some other answers.
Somebody said Cojack, I think they meant Kujo, so I actually loved it into Kujo.
Who loves you, baby?
Exactly.
You actually nailed the first 14 of these, number 15.
dream catcher than the Tommy Knockers
fairy tale number 17
the body which is the short story
that became stand by me
the Langalears thinner under the dome
eyes of the dragon insomnia
the dead zone
the girl who loved Tom Gordon made it on there
the perfect storm
no no know what that is
yeah that's the one is it that the one
were the yeah they made a TV show too right
no it was a movie but it's not the one about the boat is it
it's not the one about the boat no I don't think that was a
No, no, not that, not that, the perfect storm.
Children of the corn, somebody put, but they spelled it K-O-R-N, like the band.
Desperation, different seasons, which is one of those anthologies.
Dolores Claiborne, Duma Key, Fire Starter from Abute.
Fire starter.
You get some fun ones like Game of Thrones, Jurassic Park.
Wait, why?
Because, you people, dude.
You people.
Let's see, on writing.
So I think that's one of his, like, his nonfiction publications.
Pickles on Parade.
I don't know what that is.
Silver Bullet, sphere.
No.
Silver Bullet's great.
Talism.
They're like getting some Crichton confused with the king, aren't they?
Yeah, I can't wait to see what they put for.
Name of Michael Crichton book.
The Eye of the Dragon, the Fog, the Outside.
I think the fog, I think they meant the mist.
The outsider.
Somebody did say that.
The Redding Man, the Staff, and the Talisman.
Oh.
Someone said the fog.
That kills me.
Did we ever watch The Mangler for film, Sack?
I don't think we really do.
No, no.
We should.
Because you mentioning it now was the first I'd ever heard.
Yeah.
I saw that one at the theater.
The Mangler.
Let's see.
1995.
Horror mystery.
It was like this machine, it was like this machine, industrial machine in this warehouse.
And it was convincing people to get.
It was like Christine, but stationary.
Oh, it's Toby Hooper.
He did.
He's the Texas.
Chainsaw Massacre guy. That's cool.
Yeah.
We have seen Life Force, which he directed, and Poltergeist, which he directed.
Let's see here. Toby Hooper.
Yeah, we could do that. Robert England, dude, Ted Levine?
Oh, shit.
Classic.
Yeah, we got to watch that.
Yeah, that seems all right.
Okay, then.
Put it on our Sactober list, Randy, if you are listening.
Yeah, if he is, I'll move Catwoman.
Excellent.
Well, Becca, the good news is you've won.
You won in a weird way.
You won nonetheless, and that means Brian's going to discord these items over to you shortly, the codes, so that you can then plug them in.
It was a good reminder that I need to send Becka T-shirt to for all of her work on the pond trivia questions, and we will do that again.
People really seem to enjoy that, and I think Al-Qabab has some stuff he wants to do to enhance the game, make it even better.
Yeah, I'm going to do some art for him for the pond part, you know, the actual thing.
actually look like a pond instead of just a grid yeah yeah yeah we're gonna go we're gonna have some
fun with that if this we can get it going anyway uh well thank you so much and here's this is for you
congratulations you're a winner you're not a winner until fletcher tells you you're a winner and we'll
see you next time hey hey dunaway hey hey johnson do you want to get together and do a play retro
this weekend what do you think of that well i i would but i'm be busy uh uh playing tony hawk
Oh, oh, that's a shame.
That's a shame.
We could do it.
Combine those two activities.
Yeah, we could do an episode about
Tony Hawk 1 and 2 if you're down for it.
You know what? Let's combine your waste of time
with our episode and we will make a show.
Let's get your chocolate into Scott's
peanut butter and vice versa.
That's right.
Do you guys remember that wasn't there a BMX version of that
with the same game engine?
Yes.
And they had like, tried to make that a thing as well.
Yeah, and they had a surfer one too.
But the one, the bike one was that guy that always hung out
with the jackass guys can't they give his name yeah yeah never never soft did that yeah
yes one uh bmx game trick and you do tricks it was like all tricks and it's davir
dave mirra that's it dave mera that's it yeah deep dvira freestyle bmx i believe it was called
that's not it was that was that matt hoffman pro bmx was a mad hoffman might have been
man hoffman that's what it was okay there's a whole string of those they're all trying to
capitalize on this tony hawk success uh but we'll talk all about it
That's this Friday, 1.30 p.m.
Be there for Play Retro right here at frogpants.tv or check out the podcast after.
Brian Dunaway.
No you.
Kiss our butts.
He just gets it in quick.
He knows that if he doesn't, it's not going to happen.
Yeah, there's no delay with him anymore.
Brian, we have one news story to do.
Cool.
Let's do one.
Let's do it.
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I want to know more about this house.
No kidding.
80s-themed Airbnb.
Yeah.
Heck with the X-Men Mansion.
Give me this.
Although you heard the X-Men Mansion, it's only $97 a night.
Yeah.
How do you ever even get in there?
There's no way you're going to get books.
It's the old lottery system, yeah.
That just seems like a nightmare.
Well, all right then.
Perfect.
Let's do this story.
Speaking of houses, actually, it's funny.
This is totally a house story.
Yeah.
It's a skinny house.
I don't know if you've seen these,
but these are kind of a rage right now.
Yes.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
There's this one in Florida that is only 10 feet wide at its widest.
It's long, but it's wide.
Or it's short.
Or no.
Its width is not great, but its length is wonderful.
this thing sells for $619,000
and I'm going to show a photo to the chat
so that they can protect in this
because it is Buzan's Bazonga here
Well, that price is Banzongas
I don't think that's the word we want to use
No, I don't think that's the right word either
But if you look at that house
As you can see, that house is very thin
The other ones I've seen of these are skinny
Because they're between two buildings
It was like somebody bought the property
That's almost like an alley
and turn it into a house.
But this thing is, I guess it's just between two open pieces of property
as opposed to two buildings.
Yeah, and I think it has a, I think one of these pools belongs to it on the side here.
You look at the aerial shot.
Oh, really? Yeah, let me see the aerial photo here.
I'm not sure.
Oh, no way.
They might be fenced in. I'm not totally sure.
I think they're fenced in.
Yeah, it looks like that green line is the boundaries of the property.
But I'll be honest, I think it looks really cool inside.
The fact that it's got a garage, like a one-car garage.
Yeah.
It's got a basement, too.
I don't have a problem with this, or maybe that's upstairs.
That's what it is.
It's got multiple floors.
There's no basements.
It's Florida.
They don't have an upper floor in this thing with stairs and everything.
I don't mind if the house is arranged long ways.
That's fine.
No, no.
And it looks beautiful inside, like really, really cool.
It is funny, too, how you look at the,
like the drone
photo up above it
and you see all these
little ranch houses all around
it and then this thing sticks out like the
Lego brick. Yeah.
The weird Lego brick that you got in your
Indiana Jones Pyramid collection.
It's very weird. But I don't
think it's $619,000
worth it. No, no. I mean, come on now.
Like I don't know what the total square. Does it say
this car footage? Let's see.
I'm sure it does.
I don't feel bad, that all, something, something.
okay
1,500 square feet of living space
Or over, over 1,500 square feet
Yeah, it's not bad
It's not bad at all
I mean, it's not bad, not bad for that kind of house
Bad for that price
Yeah, yeah, I think if you told me this house was
200 grand
That's right, maybe, maybe
Yeah, that's the, that is the hero piece
Your Tetris right there
Yeah, you might get me then
That's really crazy though
The fact that these even exist
or how they pop up or whatever.
I wonder if they'll get what they're asking.
Is there a listing listing?
It's Zillow.
Yeah, there's a Zillow link at the bottom there.
Let me go down here.
Here we go.
I never trust Zillow's prices.
No.
At one point, they showed our house was worth $1.8 million.
That is so not true.
They had us listed as that.
We didn't even do anything.
It just said that.
And then the next day I checked it was back to normal.
It's like, Zillow, what are you doing?
Let's see.
Three beds, two beds, three beds,
three baths it's pretty good uh yeah it looks like nice let's see yeah it's not currently um
under contract so i don't know that it's gonna sell it does have a tiny little backyard too like
it's actually got a little green patch that you can uh is there escape or mo or do whatever you want
with but i get on that roof i want to get on that roof you know yeah yeah that's that's whole extra
living space really i mean you know it's florida so you can just put a uh a cot up there and
Watch the stars.
Pretty good.
Well, good luck to them in their weird house.
We're going to take a break when we come back from the break.
We'll have Tom Merritt here.
We'll talk a little tech.
And after that, we'll spend some time with the recommendals folks and do some
recommendals.
Before all that, though, we need a song to break us all up.
So what do you got?
We do.
And this is a band called Zornheim.
And, yeah, if you're thinking, oh, my gosh, Brian,
Zornheim sounds like a really sweet indie pop.
uh female fronted uh plink plunk music thing um then you would be absolutely wrong um zornheim is
really like death metal finished death is a canadian stockholm based symphonic extreme metal that's the
that's the combination right there sure um this is great and this is going to please a lot of folks
who uh who love their their metal their symphonic based metal uh their night wishes you know that that
that sort of thing.
Sure.
The band's founder is the guy named Zorn.
So there you go.
Zornheim.
He's the founder.
Zorn is the founder of the band, Zornheim.
Here is their song from their brand new album.
Nope, it's the title track from a new single.
None for All.
Here is Zornheim.
You know, and you know, and you know,
and then,
uh,
yeah,
yeah,
and I'm,
yeah,
I'm,
uh,
and,
I'm,
Black and minds, come to the spines, sickness with us, sickness with you.
We're the outcast from the head
The dead one's damn
Insanitude Overload
Broke's strike
In with a lens
With lickless eyes
Be joining a thundering
Magento
Or exploration
We're both flesh
Fidding
Godany
It's
This is
What we say
We are the inmates.
Can you repeat that?
Dr. Claudia?
We are the inmates.
We are the inmates.
We are the inmates.
We are the inmates.
We are the inmates.
It's a thing of fear.
Can't feel the fear
Strong on sides in wicked prey
Liding from water lies in the shade
It's my comprehend
This my comfort is my new estate
The crumble and fall
As we be able to escape
We are here?
We are making it begin?
Are you standing on the next-matter?
Now!
We are the end-nights.
We are the end-nights.
Here, we will make a stab break.
I'll feed our burial lives.
You know, I'm going to be able to be.
We are the end night
We are the end nights
Here we will make the stand to break
I'll fade our very omelt
Inmate
And I'm for all
All for all.
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Who is that again?
That is the band Zornheim.
You know, we said we had one news story.
Halfway through that news story, I needed to come over here and pull up my notes about the song.
And you think I would have done that, but I didn't do that.
I got kind of pulled off guard like, oh, we do a song in the middle of the show.
Surprise.
And that's Zornheim and the brand new song from a brand new single called None for All.
It happens.
It happens.
Whatever.
It's a big.
you know slap dash mad dash kind of content
yeah i mean you know it's not like it takes me
that long to search in my notes for zornheim yeah it's pretty
pretty darn quick pretty easy turns out pretty easy turns out yeah check this out we want
tom we surely do tom merritt is joining us as he does from los angeles california each
and every wednesday to talk about the news stories of the day on a wednesday and tom is
here to do that today hi tom how are you hi tom how are you so good it's good to see you look
very comfortable today. I don't know why.
Because I have a hoodie on.
That would explain it.
Casual comfortable time is what you are.
Now I'll go from comfortable to suspicion.
Whoa. Somebody getting an AP out on that band.
Is he writing his manifesto? I can't tell.
Please don't bomb us. Especially when these lenses turn dark outside.
Goodness gracious. Well, it's good to have you here.
How do you even survive now in a world where nobody wants to talk about anything but AI?
How do you even exist in a tech world?
It's so much.
Well, I, being AI generated myself, I feel perfectly comfortable.
Oh, wonderful.
I knew I had.
Tom has been gone for years now.
I had suspicions, though.
But don't you feel like we're just, it's that saturation point that we're hitting.
It's just kind of, yeah.
Just the guy who posted on Facebook and Twitter yesterday about an AI photo that he received.
No, I do it all the time.
Don't get me wrong.
But I'm talking about like, I mean, like, there's no, if you go to tech meme.com,
Yeah, yeah.
I did that yesterday because I was working with Roger and what we were going to talk about today.
That entire thing.
AI stories, all of it.
Now, part of it's because Microsoft just had huge AI announcements and we're looking forward to...
They're talking about Siri, Apple, Siri being full of AI.
Yeah, we just had Open AI, Google, Microsoft, and Apple would through the iPad a little bit.
All have big announcements that, if not definitely about AI, like Open AI, Google, and Microsoft,
were tangential to it in the case of Apple.
So this happens, you know?
I've been doing this for 20 years now.
So there's always something that dominates the news cycle.
The thing I will say about AI is that it is a real change.
So it's going to dominate even more so.
And you saw that with the rise of smartphones, with the rise of social networks,
with the rise of the web, if you go far enough back,
and dot coms.
everything. Why is everything about dot-coms these days? When can we get back to talking about
HP and Compaq? Is the thing I actually heard, you know, back in the late 90s? Sure.
You know, it's, and I'm not trying to discount the sort of, you know, natural reaction,
because I get it too. But it is usually just a sign that like, well, that's, that is the
dominant story. And then the question becomes, is it a passing story like NFTs were? I still
hold out that there might be something there someday, but there's not right now.
Or is it a real fundamental change like the rise of the web or smartphones?
And I do feel like a lot of these generative models we're talking about are just that.
Yeah, it feels like it is seismic in its impact.
Whether we like it or not.
Yeah, it is going to fundamentally change a lot of the assumptions about how technology works and already has.
So today, what did you bring?
Not to set you up for AI failure or anything, but did you bring?
Well, I kind of know the answer.
I was going to give you a choice.
Some sources are telling CNBC that Amazon is going to improve its voice assistant with some generative models later this year,
but they're going to charge for that separate from Amazon Prime,
or we could talk about Scarlet Jones.
Oh, I want to talk about Scojo and her little AI battle.
Yeah, let's talk about.
Sheo Joe is Scott Johnson.
Skajjo is Scarlet Jones.
Yeah, Scarjo.
Scarjo. That's right.
So, yeah, let's do talk about that.
rolling but holes.
Because she wants to
she wants to now,
well, she rattled
some legal sabers the other day.
I guess most people
may be caught up on this,
but do you want to give us
the short of what's happening
with that?
Yeah, it's interesting to me.
So the fundamental thing that happened
is now we know
because Scarlett Johansson's people
released a statement
from her,
signed by her,
so it's Scarlett Johansson's statement
yesterday saying that
last September,
OpenAI approached her and said, hey, could we license your voice to use in our voice models?
And she says that she considered it and decided for personal reasons.
So she didn't enumerate them.
A lot of people are jumping to conclusions about why she declined it, but she didn't actually say.
She said, for personal reasons, I decided against it.
And then two days before Open AI's announcement last week.
So I'm guessing she means the Friday before the Monday.
announcement. Open AI sent another, hey, last chance, you know, would you reconsider? And before
she responded, or her team responded, Open AI had their announcement on Monday. And that's where
the controversy bruised, because they used a voice called Sky in their announcement, which is a female
voice, very effervescent. Some people even described it as flirty. And a lot of people, unbidden,
unknowing that there was all this going behind the scenes
compared it to the voice from the movie Her,
which is an AI voice that was voiced by Scarlett Johansson.
And so Scarlett Johansson's statement that came out yesterday
said that, you know, she was upset that it was a voice
that sounded so much like hers and that she had said no
and that many friends and family thought it was her.
And so there was confusion about whether she had done it or not.
Open AI had a statement before her.
hers this week that said that is an actor that we hired and we trained Skye's voice on that
actor. So we didn't steal Scarlett's voice. That is important to know. They didn't take a bunch of
recordings of Scarlett Johansson and synthesize, which they could have done. They did not do
that. They said it was not our intention to imitate Scarlett Johansson. We were just trying for
a friendly voice. But in the meantime, they have paused the use of the
Sky voice. They've said out of respect for Scarlett Johansson, we are not going to use Sky for the
time being while we work this out with her. Scarlett Johansson has not threatened legal. I hear
a lot of people throwing that around. She has not threatened legal. She has said, I want to work this out.
I'm upset. And I hope there will be legislation, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sag Afterra, the actors union,
has supported Scarlett Johansson and said some, you know, fairly mild things that we're glad open AI has
pause this and understands the issue, et cetera, et cetera. So really, as these things go, it's pretty
friendly. Open AI has paused the thing without, you know, without being threatened to be taken to
court. And Scarlett Johansson is not saying, you know, you back down or I'll see you in court
because Open AI already backed down. We'll see what happens next. It could heat up pretty quickly at any
moment. But right now, it's a little bit of detente. The question would be, if they go to court, not
copyright violation because Open AI can demonstrate, look, we had a separate actor, we used
their voice. Some people may think it sounds like Scarlett Johansson. That's on them. That was not
our intention. What Scarlett Johansson would have to prove in court then at that point is that
it was meant to sound like her and that it was meant to make the audience think it was her.
And there's rights of likeness in the United States where you can't imitate an actor
with the intent of implying that that actor did the voice.
Right.
So, you know, I can't get Christopher Walkin an imitator to do a DTNS ad and go wink, wink,
hey, it's Christopher Walkin.
You know, that is violating Christopher Walkin's likeness.
So you have to walk that line very closely.
She would have to prove in court that OpenAI intentionally wanted people to think that it was Scarlett Johansson from her.
That would be hard to prove, but then also Sam Altman posted on X the word her.
like on Monday.
On 13th.
So, you know, it's possible you could convince a judge.
Possibly you couldn't.
It'd be interesting to see where that goes.
But that's kind of the upshot on where all this is.
And what's interesting to me is that the public reaction has been basically on Scarlett Johansson's side and Open AI messed up and ripped her off.
And I personally don't think Open AI ripped her off.
I think they absolutely knew that this voice was close to it.
but they thought they were legally safe and they wanted it to give the impression of like,
hey, that's kind of like the movie her without being a direct imitation.
Yeah, that all sounds right.
I don't think there, I think you have the right.
I think you have the whole of it.
Like, I think this is the whole, that's the entire story.
And it will probably work itself out over time.
The fact that he typed her in a, in a tweet that is pretty bad move.
Pretty bad move.
And it's the kind of tweet that your lawyer say, please don't delete any tweets for a while.
Yeah, exactly.
So that one bit is the part that kind of bothered me because it just feels like they're, it's easy to jump on this bandwagon of, well, AI, it's all bad actors.
They're all just taking your info and they're just using your, I mean, I know that's where everyone's heads at.
A lot of people are thinking that way around this stuff.
Yeah.
And the truth is much closer to, oops, we should have made it a little bit more diverse of that voice.
We shouldn't have, you know, we should have known the temperature of the crowd maybe a little bit.
Like, this just feels like PR mistakes to me, not legal, not legal messups.
You know what I mean?
It's a little bit of arrogance, right?
A little bit of PR mistakes, but also some things done right.
They contacted her and like, we'd really like a voice that sounded like her.
And we'd love you to do it because you're the voice of her.
And then they decided to come up with the, you know, the J.C. Penny version of it, basically.
It's like, well, does the Fox shirt from J.C. Penny infringe on Isos?
LaCost, to use a metaphor that only like 10% of you are going to get.
But you know what I mean?
Like it's, you know, it's the generic version.
Is it too close?
Is the question?
Because I think it's understandable.
Everybody wants their computers sound like Star Trek, right?
So you can come up with a voice that sounds kind of like the Star Trek computer,
but you don't want to get too close to Major Barrett's voice or you're infringing on that likeness and you're infringing on those rights.
So good comparison, yeah.
Yeah. And I think it's natural for them to be like, gosh, we'd love this to sound like her, but we can't get Scarlett Johansson. Let's have a her-like voice. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a her-like voice. I think there is something wrong with having it implying that it might be Scarlett Johansans. And that's where the question lies is, did they do it? And Sarah Lane pointed out, she's like, the fact that they asked her and she said no makes me, made her more uncomfortable with the decision to do something like.
like it. It's like, well, then you shouldn't do it because I told you I didn't want you to do it.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. If I was them, I would have. That's not a legal thing. That's emotional
thing, but it's still valid. Sure. The other thing with the movie Her, I don't know, I don't want to
speak to what her reasons for not doing it or turning it down were because I have no idea. But
the movie Her deals with some really out there subject matter. Like the movie isn't
love with an AI voice and yeah. And it isn't just, hey, AI's cool and we can talk to
our companion. It's just like having a human around. I mean, he was
having virtual sex with his his uh his AI companion in that movie like there are some weird
turns it's a little dystopic in a bunch of ways there's a tendency on and i do this too you watch
something like the end of um star wars rogue one and you see vader just tearing things apart right
ripping the rebellion to pieces trying to get those plans it's awesome it's the coolest
vader's ever been but if you really think about it it's not we should be rooting for
there. We should be rooting for the rebels.
The fascist dictator is
killing everybody indiscriminately to get these
papers. So I know how
the human mind works. We see a thing and we go, yeah,
that's awesome, but we're not really thinking about subtext.
I'm guessing she was thinking about
subtext and it made her uncomfortable. I don't
blame her. I wouldn't have either.
So go a little further from that. You could
do any female voice or male voice,
whatever you want. It doesn't have to be so adjacent
to hers. And that's the
arrogant part that I'm a little
bugged by the whole thing.
Outside of that, I mean, obviously,
legal, potential legal issues aside,
this will probably all go away in a week
and we won't be talking about it anymore.
It's still interesting.
I can understand why Scarlett Johansson
would not want to agree to this.
You essentially lose control of your voice.
If this thing blows up,
just remember the woman who originally voiced Siri
and all the reports about her,
and she wasn't even famous.
You're Scarlett Johansson.
You're like, no, I don't want,
my brand to be diluted by becoming the voice of the most popular AI on the planet. You know,
I want people to think Scarlett Johansson when they hear my voice. I do not, maybe Black Widow or
something, but I do not want them to think, oh, my AI assistant. And so I could see why she would
turn it down just for that reason of like, I don't think that's good for me on a business
angle, no matter what you pay. I just wouldn't want to lose that much control of the perception
of my voice. Yeah, I just think they had a meeting where they went, what if we got someone
who sounds like she sounds? Oh, absolutely. Listen, Andrew Main, who used to do comms for
OpenAI, was on DTNS yesterday, and he said, I don't think it sounds that much like her. I don't
get it. I heard the Sky Voice before we even had Scarlett Johansson, you know, involved, because
the Sky Voices existed for a while. And that is a point in Open AI's favor is that they were
developing this voice before. He's like, I don't see it. And then,
that's fair maybe maybe they didn't i think there's enough people who say gosh it sounds like it to me
that even if it was subconsciously they they were going for that that feel because that is an
iconic feel for like man the ultimate AI voice would be to sound like the AI in that movie like
very comfortable and natural and emotional and that's what the sky voice sounded like on monday
and it was very impressive so i i i get why they would want to do that voice
even if they weren't intentionally trying to copy Scarlett Johansson
because it's kind of in everybody's brain.
Right. Yeah.
And anybody who's into AI anyway has seen that movie and internalized it.
Oh, of course. Yeah, they're all into it.
But you don't, by the way, don't have arguments with AI proponents on the Internet.
Just don't do it.
I would just amend that statement just a tiny bit.
Don't have arguments on the Internet.
Yeah, there you go, exactly.
That's not bad.
It's not a bad amendment.
I think we're going to vote that one in.
All agreed.
Say AI.
As it ended.
You both get muddy and the pig likes it.
That's right.
It's a different thing.
Well, anyway, more stuff like this on the Daily Tech News show today, even.
I'll be on there today.
We're going to talk about a bunch of stuff.
There's this really weird, not weird, but this report going around that console games are slowing while PC gaming is on fire right now.
And I got all kinds of ideas in my head as to why this is.
We're going to talk about that today.
So that'll be fun, plus all the other tech news you can eat.
Tom, is there anything else?
going on you'd like to mention. Yeah, I'm working on, you know, my take on all of this. I had the
Scarlett Johansson take in my newsletter yesterday. I've got some stuff in here today about
Microsoft copilot's recall feature, the one that will record everything on your laptop for you,
so you can find everything easily with an AI search already being probed in the UK to decide whether
it's playing by the rules of privacy, et cetera. So I'll have that. That's all in. That's all
in the free tech newsletter at freetectnewletter.com.
However, the stuff I'm talking about here is only in the version that you pay to subscribe to.
If you don't pay to subscribe, you'll get a Thursday version that will have some of the stuff I write about.
So if you want to get the stuff I'm just talked about, you've got to subscribe at the paid version.
Otherwise, just go there and sign up and you'll get a once a week version, freeteknewsletter.com.
That sounds fantastic.
We'll see you later today for the Daily Tech News Show.
Bye now.
I'll see it, Tom.
Back.
No, you do.
Recommmental time.
It is time for us to dust off the weird shit we saw on streaming and talk about it.
Yes.
Let me make sure we got everyone here.
I believe we do.
Yes, we do.
Let's take roll.
Let's take roll.
Make sure the four of us have arrived.
And as we do, we play our little intro here, which sounds a little like this.
I can't find it.
There it is.
Well, what do you recommend?
Ah, yes, what do we recommend? You'll have to tune in and find out as we talk about our
recommendals. Let's welcome to the program, Nicole Spaggnolo. Hello.
Hi. Hi. How are you?
Can I go first today? I got to pick up my son early. I'm sorry. Yeah, sure.
Yeah. No, you can totally go first. Not a problem. Randy, hi. Welcome you as well. How are you?
Good morning, morning stream. Nicole, welcome back from your trip. That looked like an awesome trip.
Yeah, my gosh. Took Mateo to Washington, D.C. I used to live just outside of D.C.
I never did any of that stuff.
So it was kind of fun.
Yeah.
I got to go to Smithsonian and all that.
I wish there was like a service that would come into where you live and tell you what you're supposed to go see.
Right.
Like I was thinking about all the things I have.
Like I've lived in Southern California now for over 13 years.
I've never been to Catalina.
Why don't just go to Catalina.
Get in there.
I need somebody to tell me to do that.
Yeah.
You got to have.
In the age of AI, there are apps now that they're, I think it's called Plan Buddy or
something like the, I don't know, you could find it.
But there are apps that will tell you, you know, pick an area and it'll tell, it will plan
out your itinerary for you.
I'm going to talk to co-pilot about this.
Co-pilot's going to soon be my boss at work.
Yeah.
And it's, you know, it's recording everything you say.
That's right.
Just be careful.
Screenshots and all that stuff.
Let's get to our recommendals.
Nicole, we will start with you today.
Yay.
Thank you so much.
No problem.
You got a clip here.
I'm prepared to play it, but do you want to set it up at all?
What do you got?
Sure. It was a movie I watched on the plane ride home. It's one of those movies that I knew came out. I had no real drive to see it. So, you know what I'm saying? We're a little bit overloaded. But I really enjoyed the movie on the plane. And it's playing on Disney Plus. And here you go.
I know that this situation isn't ideal, but it is actually nice.
Having people on board again.
It gets pretty lonely out here.
Anytime you need company, I will be there.
I will drop everything.
I will drop high school.
Don't do that.
But can we start again?
Hi.
I'm Carol Danvers.
I'm Kamala Khan.
But when I'm fighting crime on the streets of Jersey City,
I go by Miss Marvel, and I hope that's okay,
like copyright-wise, because honestly I never thought I'd ever get to meet you,
thought I'd ever get to meet you, but now that is happening, and we're, like, touching each other.
I've realized I should have asked permission.
Twinsies.
She's adorable.
And I have yet to watch Miss Marvel.
Oh, really?
So you haven't seen the series.
Oh, that's, yeah.
I got to a point where too much was coming out too fast.
Yeah, it was hard to keep up with unless you like to said, all right, I'm going to watch
Marvel shit and nothing else for a good thing.
Yeah.
So I have been meaning to watch this because.
I'm all about girl power.
Woo-hoo.
And I just really liked it.
I wanted to say I didn't really hear much positive about it, but I'm here to tell you,
it's a fun movie.
The Bollywood Planet is a little weird.
Yeah, but it's fun.
It's, you know, it's no weirder an idea than arcade or Savage Land or anything
like that.
So I asked you guys if you had recommended it, and I don't think we've ever recommended it on
the show.
No, no, I figure I don't recommend the Marvel stuff because people know I'm going to recommend the Marvel stuff.
Sure.
But, no, I thought this was great.
And for me, it was actually something I enjoyed more than the last, than a couple of the other phase five Marvel movies, Thor, Love and Thunder, and Dr. Strange, the multiverse of madness.
I thought this was a lot more fun.
The three female leads are excellent.
I love that.
Yeah.
Marvel does have a villain problem, like Darben doesn't really have a,
a lot of depth to her unfortunately and she's you know it's it's a it's a cool character they just
needed more depth for her but everything else about it was great it was a lot of fun so i wanted to at least
bring it to recommendals because i really kind of just ignored it when it came out and uh i'm going to
go back and watch miss marvel because she's adorable yeah you have you have captain marvel the
movie yeah oh yeah i've seen captain marvel and i've seen captain marvel and i've seen
was there a second one
this was the second one
yeah
after captain marvel
establishes that she's the most powerful
she's the S tier
of all of the potential adventurers
they just put her on a shelf
until the very end of end game
it's just like she's not around
otherwise you know
we'd have to I don't know we'd have a bunch of
underpowered heroes right
right exactly Ultron solved in a minute
Thanos solved in a minute
did you watch WandaVision
yes
that gives you the background on
spectrum
which I've completely forgot
yeah
until you just said it
I did not get
I'm still having a problem with the cat
I can't remember where the cat came from
it came from the first movie
the first Captain Marvel movie
did it?
The flurking yeah
I'm so beautiful
I keep on thinking of men in black
It's a very men-in-black thing.
Yeah.
I haven't seen the Eternals yet.
I hear that.
Yeah, you can, yeah.
There are some really beautiful moments in that movie,
and the cinematography in that film is fantastic,
but they have a really hard time justifying
why the Eternals are just coming around now.
And, you know, they do talk about, well,
well, we view the world.
We don't participate, but,
Now we have to participate.
It's like, okay, well, which is it?
But it's, um...
Well, it's kind of, is it more on the long, the lines of, um, oh, what was the series, dark, the moon, the moon one?
Moon night?
Moon night?
Moon night?
Moon night, yes.
Moon night, I thought it was great.
I thought, yeah, I thought Moon night was, uh, moon night I enjoyed a lot more than it.
I loved, I loved Moon night.
But is that kind of connected to Eternals?
Like, it's always trying to find the threads.
Yeah.
And that's a good comparison because Moon Night does, and Moon Night and Eternals both do what a lot of other movies don't do, or a lot of the other Marvel things don't do, is have little cameos of other Marvel characters that have already been introduced. Both have introduced brand new characters to the universe, but don't say, oh, well, here's, you know, we're going to have Captain America show up in this one or have so-and-so show up.
but Eternals feels disconnected from the rest of the Marvel universe,
even though there's a lot of connective tissue there.
And I think once we get the, what do they call it, the universal
or the space stuff happening more, not just in Guardians of the Galaxy,
but some of the stuff, the Fantastic Four, is going to give us more stuff like that.
Cosmic.
Thank you, Tandigasa.
Then Eternals, we're going to find some more of that connective tissue and some of the
eternal stuff is going to pay off, hopefully.
And I feel like I'm a Marvel fan, but I'm so utterly lost in the worlds now because then you
have like the whole monster spinoff with that black and white on Disney that I recognize.
It was so good.
And I mean, I'm just, I'm excited by what's being.
produced it's just hard i i kind of wish there was like a well this is a good year
there probably is a time this is a good year to be to catch up because uh other than
deadpool um and some really bad uh sony was what was it madam web yeah yeah skip it or
watch it when we want it for film sac yeah i'm not looking forward to that didn't you just love
the top line cast for the marvels like just every single person
that have like primary roles in this movie i just love their performance i love how they look
all of it yeah but i i think i've gotten spoiled that i just expect that you know like it
it has to be that right so i don't think about it too hard but then i guess when they don't do it
it's like oh well i guess that's a movie right yeah yeah it is true that marvel properties get all
the best so we're very expecting that but yeah i just was i was really really pleased with the with
the cast like especially when it's like here are here are a bunch of women that you maybe don't know
or haven't heard of and they're all in they're all in primary roles you know yeah well i i'm
only familiar with miss marvel because of her series and is she a relatively new actress
uh very very new yeah yeah iman valet
Monvalani, that's right, yeah.
She's, I think Ms. Marvel might have been her first project, and she embodies the character
so well, and she is, she's just as much a fan of the MCU stuff as Kamal Khan is of the Marvel
superheroes in the film, so.
Yeah, and then.
Well, I might be wrong about that.
Wiki Kitten is saying, no way.
Well, she's probably got other stuff she did before this.
They didn't pull her off the street, but I'm sure, I'm sure this is her first,
major like exposure must be so so anything anyway i just wanted to say i watched it i loved it i
recommended it so nice there you go disney plus available now the marvels get in there's get it done
i'm looking at avon valani's uh bio and it's like they kind of did yeah actually that is
she was in high school when she got cast to play miss marvel kind of did get pulled off the street
for this there's uh she was going to
She was a, you know, she's born in Pakistan, but has grown up in Canada.
Yeah.
Her four credits, her four credits are Ms. Marvel, the Marvels, and then Avengers Quantum Encounter and the upcoming Secret Wars.
So nothing else?
She's been in nothing else.
Nothing else.
How do you find somebody like that?
So perfect for that.
Wasn't Daniel Radcliffe?
That was Harry Potter, wasn't Harry Potter kind of his first thing?
Well, yeah, but he was tiny.
He was like eight or something.
He wasn't eight.
He was pretty young.
He was like 8 to 10 somewhere in that range, right?
I think that's right.
I don't.
We just make up stuff on this show.
I mean, he wasn't 25.
He wasn't like driving his first rental car when he became Harry Potter.
The chat saying he was after 54.
Thank you, Dr. Kellogg.
They were saying he was 10.
They were saying he was 10.
Yeah.
So that sounds right.
That would be his first.
But anyway, well, there you have it.
Nicole, before you go, you said to me that you wanted to watch
the thing that I'm about to recommend.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hope you do, and I just want you to know, it's not, it's not gruesome or gory or anything
like that.
It's just a typical, it's a typical example of that work, and I found it, you know, like,
very entertaining.
I think you would find it very entertaining.
Yeah.
My son would say, it's so cringe.
It's so cringe.
Yes.
Yes, I'll agree to that.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
Nicole, enjoy your child pickup, drop off.
whatever it is you're doing it's you know the end of school and every you know every day is a half a day
basically oh yeah right exactly I remember those days well enjoy enjoy your half of day and we'll see you
soon Brian we're going to swing back to you and let you uh go next what do you got here
sure I've got a documentary but it's a documentary series but it's a documentary series there's only
two parts so it's just a really long movie that you can watch in two parts wow all right
here it is okay if you type in steve hasn't missed a step because it's his age he only uses
ramps only thing that keeps marty out of the Oscar in memoriam is no good films there was not
one person who was surprised at Marty's success there were millions thanks to good diet and
exercise Marty outlived his career by
30 years.
It's not bad.
Steve's just a few years away
from being fed like a baby bird.
It's funny.
Put that in red anyway.
Steve writes,
plays the banjo and writes
cartoon strips.
He's already the biggest entertainer.
That makes him the biggest entertainer
of 1945.
I never thought
that was that strong.
Really?
Does it get a laugh?
Yeah.
Then it's strong.
These are terrible.
I mean, but great.
He has the sex appeal of a hot dog burp trapped in a face mask.
That's amazing.
A hot dog burp.
That's amazing.
So you watched it.
Somebody finally watched it.
Yes, I watched this and loved it.
It was such a great history and biography of this guy that I didn't know until, you know,
starting it live, until he was hosting.
And then you see him on various talk shows and doing his thing.
But my gosh, the stuff that he was into before, one of his starts, one of his early things was he was a magician slash comedian in the Rootin-tootin cowboy part of New Orleans Square in or in Ventureland or Frontierland, I guess, would make the most sense.
At Disneyland in California.
And sorry, shit out of luck.
The name of this is Steve Martin, a dog.
documentary in two pieces, Steve, with an exclamation point, Martin in parentheses, in case you need that.
Do you think having read his, so I read his book, his biography that he wrote, and it's fantastic, it's really good.
And it gets into all this, like, early Disney stuff and then where he went from there.
It's like the whole gamut.
Is this kind of that just, his film version?
With video and pictures and showing, you know, how he, he kind of broke new ground in the comedy space in the 70s by,
by just going over the top and being out there.
And I'm going to walk right into the audience and just leave and take you with me and stuff like that.
It is like his early stand-up stuff as he realizes, oh, my God, this is working.
This is the thing that is doing really well.
And then I'm going to lean into that.
Just fantastic.
And, man, seeing him as a young guy with dark hair, you know, you forget that Steve Martin
actually had a color of hair that wasn't white for a while.
Sure.
But so the two-part documentary kind of ends with,
the first part ends with him kind of getting into his movies
and the jerk and the man with two brains and all of me and stuff like that.
And then the second one picks up from there,
through his movie career and now into his friendship with Martin Short,
and you heard the two of them together obviously doing,
and kind of working on the jokes that they'll tell during their two-man show,
which by all accounts is fantastic and hilarious.
It's such a great, I think even though you've read the book,
this will enhance all of that stuff for you.
Oh, yeah, I'm all in.
That's a positive for me because I loved that book.
And my only complaint about the book was I'm just hearing one voice, really.
I'm just, you know, it's his perspective.
It's very good.
Yeah, the voice of my head.
I want to hear what all his friends and all these Hollywood types.
and all these comedians think,
and, you know, that's what I want.
I want more of a blown-out thing.
His weird guest appearances on shows,
you know, you know he's going to be on the Tonight Show
and Letterman and stuff like that.
And, of course, they've got clips of that.
But when he's a guest on the Sunny and Share Variety Hour,
and you're watching Steve Martin interacting with Cher
and she's being the straight man to his comedy is really hilarious.
It's so, it's terrific.
Cool.
Did they get into his, he had a whole, like, anxiety to get into that?
Because it's really fascinating, but you had to deal with.
Big time.
And that's actually why it took me a little bit longer to watch this.
I started watching it before TMS Vegas, and it was giving me a little bit of anxiety about, you know, the show, doing the live show.
It never does.
Once I get out there and once we're in the venue, I'm fine.
But it's that anticipation.
and especially watching this at 3 o'clock in the morning if you can't sleep,
that's the time when your brain says,
hey, I really want to screw with you and your self-confidence and all that sort of thing.
I'm really going to stick it to you right now.
At the really vulnerable time, I don't know, you know, other people experience that sort of thing.
But I certainly do.
If you ask me a question at 3 o'clock in the morning,
we get a very different answer than you will during the actual waking hours of the day.
Sure.
But watching that was kind of, watching,
this and watching those early things with his stage anxiety and his performance anxiety was very
difficult uh to do at uh three in the morning before tms vegas once we got back from that finished
it up loved it had no no issues with that cool that sounds great i've been wanting to see it this is
apple tv plus it's on apple tv plus yeah it's two parts a couple hours about and a half each part
and um uh and worth every second of it awesome i'm so glad and
And how much talk about Chevy Chase?
There's quite a bit because, you know, he and Marty both worked with Chevy on three amigos.
And so there's a little bit of talk, but nothing.
There's no, boy, he was rough to work with, right, Marty?
Oh, yeah, very rough.
They don't talk about that.
But it does, you know, they do.
There's a brief mention of Chevy Chase.
I always feel like we, the audience, have probably built that up farther than it was for them in real life, you know?
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, if you worked with him, if you were a long time, like somebody who worked with him from the early days, you probably have a different take than, you know, when he's curmudgeonly working on community and nobody there, you know, it's not jiving for him or whatever.
Yeah.
I think because you, you hear just smatterings of that, you chuck it up to, well, these people are really just being nice and it was worse than they're not saying.
So you extrapolate the fact that they're not saying more than that into, oh, it must have been really bad because they're just afraid.
to talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My guess is, well, I could be wrong, but I don't see anybody rushing to do a documentary on
the life of Chevy Chase.
That may be a window into a problem.
I don't know.
I can't help wondering.
Like, I want, like, I want there to be a documentary about the rise and fall of Chevy Chase
alongside people who didn't fall, you know?
Because, like, that's, it's just, it's just interesting that he could have been, this
could have been a trio.
This could have been a legendary trio.
Like we're always going to work together in multiple movies and things like that.
And instead we get a duo, which is good.
It's a great duo.
But it's just like you wonder what might have been.
Yeah.
Well, uh, let that trio be, uh, Marty, Steve and Selena Gomez.
There you go.
That's a fine trio for me.
Oh, dude.
So I'm so, I love their chemistry with her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's great.
I like her a lot.
back in the day I was like another pop princess trying to muscle her way into whatever but I actually really like her a lot she's great all right well let's get to Randy's recommendation Randy you do a little setup here for this
there's a workplace documentary I you know just get like sure the the main guy being interviewed is like the money guy and he did he doesn't really know what's going on throughout the the stuff I think he's what you're
I'm going to hear. He's talking about the CEO of this workplace that absolutely cratered and
blew up spectacularly. But he's just a really funny guy. He's like, he seems like a Hollywood
producer who just had a bunch of money and got to go in and spend it and sit in this company
and wonder what the hell's going on. Is it the voice you're about to hear? All right. There we
go. Nolan and I have been friends for a
About 34 years, we met at summer camp,
and we became close and fast friends.
And I like to tell people, you know,
we put the fun and dysfunctional.
As a kid, you know, he was really, really fun to be around.
Fantastic sense of humor.
Charming, funny, smart.
Didn't take any shit from anybody, including, you know,
elders or people of authority.
He went to UCLA and became a lawyer.
And all was all about conflict.
Like, he's ready to go all the time.
No idea what this is.
This is Ashley Madison, Sex, Lies, and Scandal, which is a brand new three-part docu series in exactly in the vein of the inventor or we work.
And it could actually go together with those as like a three-subject super doc.
You know, it's so.
And like, I went into this.
not wanting to like anything about it because there are no good people in this documentary but
I realized well that's also true of like the inventor right like there's everybody's everybody
is a villain here there's not really a person you can you can root for and so as this is going
on I'm like well okay this is yet yet another right big scandal in a in a company and then
I realized oh these people get hacked right that's the right that was the big thing yeah
scandal is they get hacked and you're going to get to root for the hackers and boy that really just
fixed it all for me you know at it's three parts so at the end of every part there's like a big twist
you're supposed to be really excited right and and you get to root for the hackers and it's just like
these guys are up in toronto and they're just scum you know like everybody involved
but here comes you know here comes the hackers and we still don't know who the hackers were
Oh, they never took credit time.
They spend this thing.
They bring in these genius hackers from Europe to try to figure it out.
And the genius hackers end up going home, you know, completely unsuccessful.
It's just, it's a, it's an example of how documentaries got real good about 20 to 30 years ago.
Like filmmaking all went into documentary space.
Yeah.
Like good filmmaking techniques.
This is such a well-crafted.
documentary like the subject matter almost doesn't matter you know like when you watch the we
work thing that you're supposed to pay attention to that weird guy who made we work yeah but
ultimately you're just like wow these are such amazing shots you know yeah of like office spaces
in concert this same thing with with uh this ashley madison thing like it's just beautiful as a
documentary interesting i really like the we work documentary even though you're right you hate
everybody they all suck but I'm fascinated by like the Enron one was like that too for me I'd love
that documentary but there was no redeemable anybody in that thing so uh just sounds up my alley
where's this playing oh this is on Netflix and it I noticed what I know after I watched it I noticed
it was like number two in their top 10 like yeah so I guess it's connecting with people it looks like
it's gonna be a lot sexier than it is right well that's why you get you right it's like oh
the Ashley Madison thing people are having a
It was on a website.
What sexy documentary.
Yeah.
There's really nothing that sexy about it because it's all about...
You don't get servers.
Right.
So that does it for me, really.
A lot of it, a lot of it is actually about people who were customers, right?
Yeah.
And as you know, one of the biggest parts of the scandal was the realization that their
customers were all men.
They didn't have any paying customers that were women, right?
Yeah.
And so, like, that is something that you're, like, leading up.
to by talking to these people like what were you thinking why were you why were you why did you
subscribe why did you give them money you know like that sort of thing and they their answers are
are really human you know it's a it's a very human look at that nonsense but um they're still like
there's still no good guys here like the the guy you just heard is the closest thing like I say he
he doesn't really know what's going on and he's funny but he's just the money that you know that came
in and kind of gawked at everything going on around in the early 2000s 2004 so i was
i worked at a company where we were working on a dating site and the dirty little secret then
and i think is probably still true today is that the men to women ratio is horrendously in favor
of the men like it is sure in our case the site we were making we were scrambling to figure out
how to how to even deal with that ladies get free sign up that's not enough uh lady will pay you
$10 to sign up.
You're not wrong.
We were doing stuff like that.
We were like trying to incentivize it and doing all these things and we
jumped through hoops to do it.
It never worked.
Why bars have ladies nights at the bar because, you know, it's a 90% dudes.
How are we going to get more ladies in here?
Yeah.
It's really weird.
That's a whole, it's very strange business.
But this sounds great.
Definitely going to watch this.
So, good one.
It reminded me of the inventor over and over and over.
It's so like I just want to remind you if you haven't watched that.
That is also streaming.
it's really good of course when there is a criminal in at the center of your documentary uh you're gonna be
you know you're going to be watching people doing bad things like that's the that's the whole point here
yeah uh but like the with the inventor you know like you realize uh yeah she's going to jail
right that's so like you get to you have at least there's somebody out there to root for you
a route for the justice system or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's very weird.
Well, all right then.
So watch that.
That's available on Netflix now,
which is actually good to hear because I'll be honest,
the recent run of Netflix documentaries,
like mostly their true crime stuff,
a little below par.
It hadn't been great.
I recommended them because they haven't been good.
So it's nice to hear they got another one that, you know, is decent.
Yeah, I didn't look into it,
but it's very, very clear that the company that made the documentary,
like the filmmakers are are good at this they're like really good at this so you know like i like
i say i just expect more there's just going to it's going to keep happening you know yeah i have a high
i have a high um my standards are higher for documentaries now as a result of that quality stuff
so when the crappy ones come in i'm just like what do we do yeah all right uh look forward to
the sam altman version of this in a couple years yeah it'll be called her
All right, here is something completely different.
From Metropolis, I'm Lois Lane.
Hey, Lois!
I know you like these, so I got you one.
From actual Perry.
I don't know why I said it like that.
And I got you one of these from 43rd Street,
which is like a full three blocks out of my way.
During rush hour?
Wow, that's like me flying to Mars.
What? You can fly?
I always thought the cape was just a cute accessory.
Oh, so you think I'm cute
I said the cape was cute
You think I'm cute
Are we looking faces right now?
Because if we're looking faces, I got to get in on me
All right, you might think to yourself
Well, that sounds silly, it sort of is
But I really
I really had a good time with this movie
This is DC League of Super Pets
On HBO Max or Max
As we call it now
2020 this came out
So it's been a couple of years.
But I was surprised how much I liked this.
I thought I was going to be really dumb.
And a friend of the show, John Jagger, said, hey, you got to watch this thing.
You're going to like it.
I promise.
I don't know why it's good, but it is.
That was John Krasinski you were hearing there as Superman.
Oh, okay.
I was trying to figure out that voice.
Lois is, who is Lois?
Olivia Wild is Lois.
But everybody's in this thing.
Diego Luna, Keanu Reeves, Kate Middleton, Dwayne Johnson.
You heard there at the end.
is crypto yeah okay sorry mckenon did i say middleton i meant mc okay
dish tosh posh posh posh gosh she got me excited there for a minute
uh Kevin hart's in it Natasha leone a whole bunch of people you know um Thomas
midditch always either he's in trouble or doing cool stuff that's that's where you were
combining middleton and uh yeah i think i did that um also mark marron is lex luther
is an inspired choice it's very very good nice anyway
It is way better than I thought it would be,
and it is a delightful little offshoot in the DC universe
that just deals with the super pets.
And occasionally somebody shows up,
like Keanu Reeves plays Batman,
and he is amazing as Batman.
It's done for comedic reasons,
but I'm pretty sure he could actually voice that
seriously somewhere else if he wanted.
It's very good.
Cool.
It actually worked for me.
Krasinski is perfect for the way they portrays Superman.
And I think Dwayne Johnson does a fine job
of just he just sounds like the rock but he's a dog uh same with kevin hart they're just they're just
dogs doing dog shit um it's a lot of fun it's just a good throwaway good time like if you're
looking for some fun animation you want some good time with the family i don't think this is one to
sleep on i was surprised how much i liked it um john was correct it is a fine little film and uh i think
you'll enjoy it so go check it out that is is it now your favorite rock and kevin hart
collaboration um that's a great question more often than not those just annoy me now uh but then
i'm kind of if i'm honest i haven't really seen like i haven't seen what was the one he did with him
that was like they were cops uh oh hard way no uh central intelligence central intelligence i didn't
see that i didn't see that the two jumanji redos or not redos the newer jimongi things i
didn't see any of that so i don't know they're probably amazing together for all i know and
this one, you hardly think about it.
He plays Ace,
who is Batman's dog,
and he's a fantastic
character.
But I don't know, it's most fun
when the dogs have to cross over with the humans and
sort of deal with how kind of stupid
Superman and Batman work.
I had a great time with it.
It's also on Hulu, by the way. I should have mentioned that.
I don't know why it's there, but it's there. And available
now. D.C. League of Super Pets.
Available now.
Did you see Hobbs and Shaw?
No, I did not.
Oh, Scott, it's so good.
Is it?
Is it, though?
You need to see Hobbs and Shaw.
All right.
All right.
You know what?
I'm going to finally take you up on that.
I'll watch Hobbs and Shaw.
I mean, it's Jason Statham.
He can do no wrong.
I love him.
Yeah, he's all right.
Remember in crank?
He had to have sex to keep his heart rate up.
Remember that?
That was a thing.
We're going to sack that.
Well, all right then.
Randy, it's a pleasure.
And speaking of sacking, what are we doing this weekend?
You want to tell people?
We're going to watch the Hitcher, the 80s version,
the original.
So excited.
going to see just how bad it goes out there on the road. Of course, I can't help thinking about
that. What was a breakdown that we watched last year? A breakdown. Yeah. Kurt Russell.
Similar vibe. Yeah. In the same, it should be in the same aisle in Blockbuster, these two movies.
It should be delivered on a Blu-ray special edition with both movies on one desk. There you go.
I love these movies. I love these movies. I like them too. They're stupid and great. And I love
the hitcher. The hitcher was, again,
forbidden fruit in my house when I was growing up.
So it was a big rebellion to go to my friend's house and watch The Hitcher at midnight.
I need to jot this down.
We need to talk about the concept of forbidden fruit for younger movie viewers.
Like that's a really interesting thing.
Yeah.
Like we all have, I think all four of us have these like memories about, you know,
being a kid and something wasn't allowed.
And you're like, oh, come on.
But we also all have stories about where, I know Brian has one with his grandma.
specifically where they take they took us to something they didn't know had a bunch of crap in it
yeah so in some ways they were keeping us from stuff in other ways they were exposing us accidentally
and then too embarrassed to get up and walk out of a theater like i think that was just that was
all right of passage yeah i had two of those experiences as a kid i'm jotting this down hold this
for one of our yeah round tables this will be a lot of fun yeah well randy i hope your day is
full of joy and and uh co-pilot plus oh i hope yours is full of meats oh gross bye
meat we have the meats probably going to be less meat for a couple of weeks
because i'm living with a vegetarian oh right exactly yeah yeah easier when you can just add
meat to something that can makes for the three of you that uh yeah you know needs to be both
but yeah that is true um all right we're going to get out of here couple uh or one quick thing
i already played this already read this so i'm not doing this i moved it up you moved uh bucky's
woman i moved bucky's woman that's it for today's show
show, everybody. I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back tomorrow. Wendy will be here. She's had some
time off from the show, but she'll be back. Something big to talk about, something to help
you guys with. I don't know what yet, but we'll figure it out. That'll be tomorrow. So
tune in then. And if you've got any of that stuff, go to frogpants.com slash TMS. Links to
everything are there, with the exception of the song Brian's about to play. And then it will be
there. Then it will be there. It's amazing how that stuff works out. Hey, Sit Bright. Is this the right
one, yes. Hey, Sit Bright and
bury them. I'm turning 50 on May
17th. I loved cathedrals
by Joan Osborne that Brian played on May
7th and also the conversation later
about being one of those songs that can bring a
tear. I've heard of anchoring techniques
where a song can revive a certain
strong emotion or deja vu feeling
and cathedrals is certainly one of
those songs. Linger that Brian
just played did it for me as well. Anyway,
wonder if he can pull off another tear
jerker from his endless five-disc CD
changer in the trunk of the key of soul. By the way,
six desks, just to clarify.
Brian is hitting 100% lately, so I'm excited to hear what he suggests.
Can I also get an old-fashioned Darrell YouTube?
Oh, my gosh.
I doth harbor affection for the spectacle, albeit.
Oh, my gosh.
Hold on.
Was it Darrell who did it?
Yeah.
It's YouTube.
Okay.
Well, I should have it then.
Let's see here.
Oh, here it is.
YouTube.
Oh, my gosh.
I nailed it right there.
That's crazy.
How about this one?
that was your dong all right
that's funny
that one a long time a long time um all right
well let's see if I can do it again I don't know it's it's
it's not easy to try and pull these out but
hopefully this one evokes an emotion it does for me
and I think for me it's it's equal parts
the lyrics and the
um and the music uh for a lot of these
you know it's got to be that perfect combination of the two
And I'm a big fan of the band Keen.
I feel like their hopes and fears album was easily one of the best albums that year and is still one of my 50 favorite albums.
It's so good.
Although I can't remember if this song comes from it or comes from their second album, but I still love the band Keen regardless.
This is one of their singles.
It's a song called Everybody's Changing, but it's covered by Tio Cruz.
And it's such a, like you said, the lyrics in this.
thing are are talking about those things around you that that you can't seem to keep up with
the people in your life that you know you watch from a distance and watch them succeed or
watch them go on and you you feel sometimes like you're mired in your own muck which
we've all felt from time to time here is tyo cruz from the island life 50 years of
island records from 2009 covering keens everybody's changing
See you guys tomorrow.
When I think about it, I don't see how you can.
You're raking, you're breaking, and I can see the pain in your eyes,
since everybody's changing and I don't know why.
So little time
I try to understand that I
Trying to make a move
Just to stay in the game
I try to stay awake and remember my name
But everybody's changing
And I don't feel the same
You're gone from here.
Soon you will disappear, fading into beautiful life.
Because everybody's changing and I don't feel right.
We're so little time
Try to understand that I
Try to make a move just to stay in the game
I try to stay awake and remember my name
But everybody's changing
And I don't feel the same
So, so little time,
So little time
Try to understand
that I
Try to make a move just to stay in the game
I try to stay awake and remember my name
Everybody's changing
And I don't feel the same
No
Oh
Everybody's changing
And I don't feel the same.
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