The Morning Stream - TMS 2649: Ivan The Frequent

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

Red On Air John. Hose under the nose. The Elvers Have Left The Building. Upper class crackheads. Lego dogs. He's Really Into Cars. Don't Go To The Crack Hospital. Little Booger Cars. Multiple Bottom L...ines. We are A Menace To The Elderly. Tes-Love. Philip P RSVLTS shirt. Low Poly Cyber Folly. This one goes out to all the Kyles. Farting Teslas with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's a smell in the air, the smell of support, the support of our patrons like Ryan Young, Jeffrey A. Hart, Matt Cordero, and John Stone, no relation to Joss. Sign up today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, Red on Air John. Hoze under the nose. The Elvers have left the building. Upper-class crackheads. Lego dogs. He's really into cars.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Don't go to the crack hospital. Little booger cars. Multiple bottom lines. We are a menace. The Elderly. Tesla. Philip P. Results shirt. Low Polly Cyber Folly.
Starting point is 00:00:36 This one goes out to all the Kiles. Starting Teslas with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Pete is about to take his first drug and he got it from a friend. That's the way it usually happens. Let's go catch us a demon. This is the morning stream. Ah, that's the level of stupid we're looking for. Well, hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:16 It's Joe Sweater and Philip P. Roosevelt shirt here joining you for the morning stream, Scott and Brian. Brian, he's wearing, so he's been teasing this Grogu shirt, and now I've seen it in real life and now I cannot not. see it and I want one for myself. It's beautiful. Look at that thing. That's right. Bro-grew eating frogs. If you were here live, you'd see this shit, but because you're all at home, just trying to use your imagination, it's this beautifully patterned thing. And it's a lovely, it's a very chromatic set of colors, right?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Like blues and greens, very aqua. And from a distance, like you were saying, from a distance, you'd be like, that is a very nice set of colors on that shirt. And then you look up close, it's like, wait, there's little frogs and it's little grogoos eating them from. Yeah, it's almost terrible. Once you get a good luck at it, you're like, oh, the frogs. It's the frog genocide. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 If you're sensitive to frog, you know, wiping out frog civilization, then maybe don't get this shirt, but it looks great. It's right. I'm convinced. There are a couple of weird places where the pattern mirrors. Oh, right. Right here's a pattern mirrors and you get like, I don't know what I'm looking at there. It's like part of a frog going into like a spaceship or something.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Oh, Lord. Well, we can't have that. That's when we know we've gone too far as a human race. Yeah, I don't know what that is. Anyway, we're here. And it's May 23rd, 2024. We're not going to have a 24-24 this year because it'll be on a day we don't have a regular show. All right?
Starting point is 00:02:51 I mean, we'll still have it. We'll say, well, we do our couch party tomorrow. We'll say, hey, it's 524-24. There you go. Yep. I think that's a great idea. Hey, so last night, oh, by the way, thanks for all the nice comments and stuff. A bunch of you heard about my mom having to be rushed to the hospital yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Good news that she's in good stable condition now, getting good care this morning, and we'll probably be there for a couple of days. The long and the short of it is she, we just saw her on, I don't know, when was the wedding? The last day of the wedding or the last day of the family stuff, I think, was Sunday. Yeah, so we were with them on Sunday, and she was fine and maybe a little tired from the weekend. But they went home and everything was fine. Then we get this call right as soon as I exit DT&S last night and was supposed to have a meeting right after. And as soon as I got off, Kim's like, check your text.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And I'm like, oh, shit. And it says your mom's been taken to the ER. Her oxygen is like plummeting. We don't know why. Blah, blah, and all this stuff. And so it's in the big family text thing. So we're all a little freaked out. We're like, oh, crap.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Well, that's what I'm doing this afternoon. So cancel everything else. Let's get out of here. Get down to the hospital. And she's, her hospital's way down in Provo, Utah Valley Hospital. Nice hospital, but just as far. And so we went down there, met them in the ER, and they were already kind of working on her and stuff and having her try different things. Anyway, so the, here's the short of it.
Starting point is 00:04:15 She got some sort of virus, probably during the wedding. It wasn't COVID. It's not, it's not even the common, it's not even this year's flu. It's some other one of hundreds of viruses people pass around. So she got some kind of, you know, respiratory virus. It had turned into a kind of, or no, what they think happened is when the virus first hit her part of her lung, her upper, or no, her lower left lung, they'd just call it that, right? The lower lung on the left side, because they're your lungs, so I guess it's still a lung. Yeah, it's not like you have ventricles like you can, you know, like you can use for the heart.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You just say lower left, yeah, lower left, lower right, upper. And they called it a lobe, but I think it's just like that ladder or that bottom half collapsed. And she was, her, her oxygen went from 90 something down to, I don't know, 72. It's really too, that's too low. Like anything below 79 and you're kind of an endangered zone. So they weren't sure why. And they were, you know, she had this horrible racking cough that was just sort of from the other thing. So anyway, they diagnose her with full-blown pneumonia.
Starting point is 00:05:26 and said it was just very quickly on set. It's a bunch of factors. You know, she's older. She's not moving around much. Sleeping on her back. That stuff has a way of coagulating, creating a problem. Sure. So he's got a lot of fluid in her lungs and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Anyway, so they give her albuterol, which clears that up so she doesn't cough every five seconds, but she's, like, really shaky from that stuff. That stuff can make you just real jittery. And she's already a little shaky. I mean, she's 85 or something. It's a, what do they call that a, it's an upper albuterol. Definitely. stimulant of some sort of heart rate went up and all that but um we waited around and uh they finally
Starting point is 00:06:03 got her a room and they had two or three doctors talked to her bottom line is i keep saying bottom line bottom line is she's uh better now she's in stable condition her oxygen is up because she's sucking on it all day um she was able to eat last night i think it's all going to be okay it's all just a matter of whether or not the antibiotics that they gave her do anything because if it's viral they won't but They've given her some pretty hardcore intravenous antibiotics to help any infection. And then the viral part was just have to pass. So they're going to keep her there for two days. It's major, you know, the whole thing is of a major concern because she's also 85.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's not, this is the sort of thing that when a lot of people go in, they don't come out with, right? So there was a lot of that. We went up there with Mishin, just hung out and stuff. But here's the thing. I learned two things. One, don't make your mom laugh when she has a horrible racking pneumonia cause. Oh, God. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Because at one point, I was holding her hand, and I realized she has skin that is so loose, like you do in your old, that it felt like I could just, if I moved it, like it would just shift in giant patches. Right, very thin, yeah. Yeah, and I said, Mom, I could pull all this off and become that guy from Silence of the Lambs. And she laughed so hard that she got into the worst coughing fit of the night. So that was a mistake. Shouldn't have done that. Oh, no. But that's how we deal with things there, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Then the other problem is John, I've talked a lot about how John's just cranky, he's hard on the help, all that. That includes hospital staff. He's not easy to deal with. And he also doesn't hear well, but doesn't want to be told that he's kind of losing his hearing. Right, right. So the doctors are like, I'm going to go get her some more blankets and make sure she's nice and warm, okay? And he'll go, okay, but make sure you bring more blankets.
Starting point is 00:07:54 and they're like, John. They already said it. Here's the funniest thing, though. My mom at one point is laying there. She's got all hooked up to stuff. We're trying to get food for it. And she's sitting there and she stares across the room. And she sees one of those walker things that you use when you've got to get up and, you know, IV on it.
Starting point is 00:08:12 The single pole kind of walker with the tripod on the bottom or the four. Yeah. And this one had an oxygen tank attached to it because that's the kind of thing she would need. And she looked at it. And the oxygen tank is just kind of free on this post as, nothing else there it's on wheels and she goes john i don't think they've given me the oxygen they said they did look at it over there it's not even hooked up to anything oh no and i went mom it's all it's right behind you it's all this stuff you've been breathing in for the last 12
Starting point is 00:08:40 exactly she has a hose under her nose correct yeah hose under the nose it's in there pumping oxygen and she's convinced that this other free floating tank is the one that she's supposed to be connected to so it's just that kind of stuff and it was over and over and it was a lot of things like, I don't think they gave me any antibiotics. I said, Mom, that's what these IVs are doing right now. In fact, this box over here says the name of the antibiotic and the flow rate and bubble problem or anything that might happen. That's all right. That's what this is. Oh, I thought it was just taking blood. I'm like, Mom, they don't just pump blood out of you. So it was a lot of this. It was a lot of this. And it's fine. And part of it was just like,
Starting point is 00:09:19 I wanted to curl up in a ball and pretend I wasn't hearing it because John tries to be funny with these doctors. It's just not, it's just whatever comedy he had if he ever had it. It's gone now. It's not, right. It does not fit in a 2024 hospital. No. Like the guy, the
Starting point is 00:09:37 phlebotomist shows up. He's this kid of color. I couldn't tell you what, maybe Mediterranean looking kid. He's younger probably 20 something. And he's there to take the blood and he says, ah, so you're the vampire. And I go, oh gosh.
Starting point is 00:09:53 here we go. And the guy goes, ha, ha, ha, yeah, I guess I'm here to take blood. I guess it's similar. Ha, ha, this kid says. And he goes, well, you look like a scary one. And, and you look like, you know, you're a little darker. I'm like, John. John. Stop. Just stop, dude. Like, just slow your freaking 95-year-old role and stop. He's trying to keep up with you and your had a little lector jokes. He's like, oh, I need to stop my game. There probably is a little competition there, if I'm honest. But anyway, it's all good thank you for all the nice thoughts my mom's my mom is uh i never really think about this that often but my mom is always funny like she'll always say something actually funny and
Starting point is 00:10:34 it's usually just unintentional but that's just my mom she's very funny john's the opposite's all forced but um but she i told her i said hey i got a bunch of people are all pulling for you and she just wanted me to pass it on that she appreciates it so so as brian you know brian and i are both you know sons of mothers who need a little extra care these days and My mom in her 70s, so a little younger, but I'm the one that she calls and I always have to run her up to the hospital that she likes, which is 45 minutes away as opposed to the one that she thinks all the crackheads go to, which is 10 minutes from her house. Is that why she doesn't like it? She thinks it's a full of weirdos. Yeah, we sat in the waiting room once and she's like, I think that guy's a crack.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I think that guy's on crack. That's really funny. I didn't know that was a reasoning. So it's like, yeah, the brand new hospital that just opened up, you know, well, it's 10 years old now. But on the very far north side of town, I have to drive her up there. Now, the good news is on August 3rd, the hospital she doesn't like is moving into a brand new facility that is kind of in between her house and mine, much closer to my house. Like, it's seriously five minutes from my house. When I go and ride my bike, I go right by this brand new hospital,
Starting point is 00:11:55 massive new hospital facility. And so she's going to like that one. And then I can take her there. I can make sure she gets admitted. And then I can go home and do stuff. And then when she needs something, I could just buzz back over. Yeah. Is she worried about any crackheads there?
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's new. It'll be new shiny crackheads. It'll be upper class crackheads. It would just be cocaine lovers who haven't quite gotten to the new form. That's right. That's right, exactly. All the days of just being cocaine lovers. Yeah, I remember those days fondly.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Miami Vice was on the TV. That's right. I'm sure she listens to the show, so I'm sure I'm going to get a text from her at some point. Oh, that's cool. My mom does not listen to the show. If she did, John would probably be more mad at me than he already is. Oh, gosh, yeah. That would not go well.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah, they don't listen to the show. Well, anyway, just the lesson is don't make your half-lung mom laugh and don't bring John around professionals because he'll make it worse. We've got a follow up on ground bees. Would you like to hear this? Ground bees. Yeah, sure. We don't like ground bees. We don't like those ground bees.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But this guy says, Brandon, says that there's maybe a thing to do here. He says, hey, stink bug and beetle. Stinkbug Stinkbug and beetle I really appreciate that Thank you for the stink bug title There Obviously this guy was not hanging around me
Starting point is 00:13:30 At Snowbird When we were casing it out After I had a big old milk latte Yeah they called Brian stink bug for that weekend And it stuck I was able to move under Under my own propellant If I would have been wearing rollerblades
Starting point is 00:13:43 I wouldn't have had to walk anywhere That's impressive given the altitude You know, you really putted around that place. That's right. It happened once. I, like, stepped over to the side and then came back and it's because, like, you're checking that out of there? I'm like, no, I just had to offload some of the dairy I had this morning with my Queenamon with... Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I still think the altitude had something to do with, like, making that a little worse for you. It definitely accelerated the process. Yeah. Thanks a lot, heights or whatever. Elevation. Anyway, so stink bug and beagle. This is Brandon for Mosquito. vector control guy that called to correct the way the way to remove a tick a while back. Do you remember
Starting point is 00:14:22 that? We talked about tick removal. Yeah. Yeah. I learned something that day. Removal about leaving the head. That's right. That whole burn thing doesn't work or something. Wasn't that the deal? Anyway. Yeah, exactly. You know, it'd be nice if I retained the advice. If I took advice and then retained it. That's right. I think you submerged the whole thing in hot soapy water. Is that right? I can't remember. I can't remember at all. Anyway, he goes on to say, or he does say, Where am I? I just listened to episode 2647 where a guy wrote in about ground bees. Well, I just heard that I, sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Because I heard that. Oh, because I heard that. I was just in the process of taking off my bee suit. That's cool. I like be suits. After treating a yellow jacket nest in the ground. Oh, those bastards. I already don't like yellow jackets.
Starting point is 00:15:07 You're telling me they're in the ground now. No, yellow jackets and wasps can go eat a microwaved bag of dicks. I agree. Ooh, microwaved. Nice and hot. Nice and hot microwave bag of dicks. It'd be like hot dogs, though. They'd be all split and weird, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, God, yeah. Oh, geez. All right. Where was I? Oh, where am I? Okay, these guys aren't bees, but wasps. We get called all the time after people find them mowing. Don't mess with filling it up with water.
Starting point is 00:15:35 They survive rainstorms just fine. Just call your local agency and have it taken care of. The pesticide is a little puff of dust that goes right into the hole. Excuse me. No worries about killing the bees. Enjoy the audio recordings, though. Yeah. Or killing real bees, he says.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Enjoy the audio recordings, though. P.S. at the end of 2647, you played a recording of a farmer talking about the solar storms. He gave you his full number and asked you not to share it. So, quick note, I've been getting bombarded with this over the last two days, or yesterday mainly, and I didn't know about this. But sometimes when I do a big bunch of calls at the end of the show, it's because they're long and not like or just aren't, you know, kind of thing. I never get, I never think to listen to the show. to hear those. I'll need to go back and listen to it. Yeah, and they're always great, but sometimes I will listen to most of someone's call and go, oh yeah, this fits at the end. We'll put it in that
Starting point is 00:16:25 category. And I didn't know he put a number at the end of this. So I'm going to go fix that today. I didn't mean to help him docks himself. It wasn't my intent. Okay, I didn't know. So I'm going to, I'll go find it. And I appreciate specifically Brandon here, tell me what episode, because everybody else was just saying, he put a number up on the thing. I'm like, doc somebody. Yeah, and know this. When you call that number, I just, I already get the number. Your number shows up on the message. So you don't need to leave it and also just don't because. Yeah, don't leave it. Why? Like, did he, did he ask for a call back on something like, by the way, call me and let me know, confirm that you got my message? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Like, I need to go find out because I guess I just didn't listen to the entirety of it. I listened to the chunk of it that made, you know, it was more part of it. But I think I got to the end where it was like, so anyway, thanks for all the. And then I said, okay, cool, this is a good one, and I quit listening. So anyway, a combination of errors there. We also got an email about key fobs. We were talking about, oh, quick shout out to my brother-in-law, Ken. He sends Misha a text last night and says, this means he's listening to the show. He says, tell Scott that it's not a Model 3 Tesla that Wendy was driving the other day.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's a Model X. Get it right or something like that. Oh, ooh, okay. difference. Fancy. There's a price difference, but whatever. Yeah, I don't know what the actual, I don't know what the difference is other than, well, I mean, I guess it's more affordable to three than the X. The three is, yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember the, I know that the one I'm looking at potentially considering along with the Ionic 5 is a model Y with a dual motor for the weight, but that's, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where the others stack up.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's, and X's. I don't know. Understand that one at all either. Oh, yeah, Now that I look at this one, it does look like what she was driving here. I do keep seeing more and more cyber trucks out in the wild. And, man, I just cannot look away from them. They're just, they're fascinating to look at. Yeah, partly because they're ugly as sin. But you're right. They demand your eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:18:34 They absolutely do. Something so 1970 sci-fi Logan's run looking about those things. I just can't put my finger like that's, you know, that's all I can compare it to is what we thought the future, what filmmakers thought the future would be in 1971 and said, yep, this is what cars are going to look like in the future. Yeah, it's very, to me it always looks like a PS2 game. Yeah, PS1 even, yeah, like a PS1, low-poly. Lara Croft after she takes out those Lego dogs is going to hop in her cyber truck and drive to the altar. dogs. That's great.
Starting point is 00:19:16 There are blocky dogs. They're blocky Dobermans. That's funny. Well, anyway, this guy says, this is Stephen. He says, hey, guys, I drive a Honda fit. And it also has the proximity key fob and push button ignition thing, the thing we struggled with with the, that was with the Kia, whatever it was. Mine also has a key that I can take out of the fob in my car.
Starting point is 00:19:39 The only place to put the physical key is in the other, or, sorry, is in the driver's side door. It came in very handy when my battery died. It was the only way to unlock the car, so I could open the hood and deal with the battery. I don't know if different manufacturers have different uses for the physical key, but that's what I used mine for. Probably the same.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I just didn't. That makes so much sense that that's what that would be for. It's just like a, you know, fail safe if you need to get into the car and the battery is dead and your picture isn't just, isn't triggering it. Then there you go. Right. That would make sense. You've got to have a fail safe, right?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah. Chat says, Dr. Cahoo says he misses his Honda fit so much, they don't sell them in the U.S. anymore. I didn't know that. I thought I could still get a fit here. That's a bummer. That is a bummer. I mean, not that I was in the market, but I like the fit.
Starting point is 00:20:24 It's nice little booger car. Let's see. Yeah, the last Honda fit, 2020. That's not there. No, the leaf is, Honda Leaf? No, Nissan Leaf. Nissan Leaf. Okay, that's why it didn't sound right.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. It's not. It's not a. EV, though, right? No. Well, no, the leaf is, the fit is not. The leaf is, but the fit is not. Right, the fit is not.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Is the, do we know if the, um, does Toyota even have like a non-hybrid full electric? I don't think they do, do they? Toyota electric. I don't think so. I wonder what that's about. Toyota. E.V. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Do they have anything as a pure EV? Oh, looks like they do. Is it this, uh, BZ4X? What's the, oh, no, here we go. What's the BZ4X? The hybrid, oh, that's a hybrid EV, fuel cell EV, battery EV. Yeah, she has battery EV cars. Fuel cell.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, so they have a few that are battery EVs. Oh my God, you have to go so far to get to, um, to get to them. Here we go. Battery EV, the BZ4X is the Toyota. Did you say that already? I did. That's okay, though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's too busy scrolling through this mess of a website. This maze, this tangled maze. It's pretty messy. You're not wrong. Ooh, that red one. The battery can power the red on air light that I just drew up. Speaking of red, though, that red version of this, Supersonic Red? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah. It's a nice, I mean, it's a sharp-looking vehicle, but, boy, I have not seen anything in... I've seen nothing about this. Yeah, nothing in, what do we call it, in consumer ports about the quality of this. It is sharp. Forty-three grand. It's not bad. No, not bad for car, you know, car prices.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It's in the range, I guess. Yeah. If you show up with $4,000 at signing, it's only $199 a month. Oh. Yeah. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. I can show up with that.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, why not? Anyway, well, thank you for that information. Now I understand what that key is probably for on that Kia. Yeah, for sure. It's all good. And then, oh, a quick note before we get to this, tell me what you do when you're driving, either lift or just driving, somebody tailgate you really close.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, yeah. What is your modus? Do you tap breaks? You know, it used to be that I would get irritated. I would start to, I wouldn't like abruptly break, but I would just start to ease up on the gas a little bit more and try and encourage them to get another lane. But I don't care anymore. I figure, you know, the way I look at it now, tailgating is a them-prone.
Starting point is 00:23:10 problem and not a me problem. I'm going the speed that is safe. It's usually five to ten miles over the speed limit depending on where, you know, if I'm on a surface street or a highway, whatever. It's like, no, you know, I'm going the speed. I want to go. If you want to get that close, it's really on you and whatever. But I've gotten to the point now where I really do my best not to let stuff like that bother me and unless somebody's just being a real jacking ape and like doing that thing where they swerve back and forth behind you to make sure that you see them yeah that guy they're not they're not looking at me and their rearview mirror and getting irritated burr hate that yeah exactly so it's like yeah whatever you know because last
Starting point is 00:23:58 that we had a guy so hugging us so hard that kim tap the brakes like not hard but just like a quick little just enough just enough to put the lights on but not really enough to slow the car down. Yeah, and it seemed like he just hugged us even more because he was mad or something. So I was like, well, all right. Then what do you do? You know what? You're right. Just ignore it. Just ignore it. If you can get over, get over, fine, whatever, let
Starting point is 00:24:19 them pass. Like, yeah. Like, what's the point of getting all fried up about that? It's to the point where I actually want to have a bumper, like bumper stickers made and sell on my Etsy shop that say, your tailgating is a you problem, not a me problem. Yeah. Just let him know. Just to, you know, like, go
Starting point is 00:24:34 head. I don't know why everybody in the world now is driving like they've got their pregnant wife in the passenger seat about to give birth. Yeah. Why is that? Why is everyone in such a damned hurry? Because people, leave earlier. Gosh, dang it. You're not wrong. All right, Brian, this last little bit is yours and it's, I'm, I kind of hate this because I should be there. I should be there with you. I should be there with fans. I'm annoyed. Yeah, no kidding. You should be. This is the only reason I, uh, that I do this, Scott, is because 100% I'm. I'm, I should be there. I, know that if there was a Spider-Man movie that I had something going on that I couldn't get out of and I wasn't going to be able to see on an opening night, and you would be able, and you are seeing it on
Starting point is 00:25:14 opening night, I would hear about it relentlessly. So 24 hours from now, one of us will have seen Furiosa. Damn it. And it's not the one you think. Yeah, guess who it is, if you can, everybody. Guess who'll see it before me? Twelve hours from now, one of us will be, we'll have seen Furiosa. Yeah, I'm excited, though, for you, because, um, yeah. you know it's like tailgating i can either be mad or i can be excited and i'm going to be excited that's how i'm going to do i decided i'm going to live stream it so watch on twitch at 645 p m live from the almo draft house yeah you won't get kicked out for that ever it's all good oh no they love that yeah that and talking and using uh you know you're turning on your device while you're watching the
Starting point is 00:25:53 movie sure bring a bring a boom box in there uh if uh if draft house has a new um uh let's see here if they've got a let's see here let's find it if they have a new video for their shut up and don't talk for Furiosa
Starting point is 00:26:16 they always update it for whatever the big movie is oh they gotta do one for this then right not seeing one they've got one for how do they not they've got one as the Joker which is kind of funny that doesn't seem
Starting point is 00:26:29 no Georgie from it wow so yeah if you're going to do one why this is the time to do it i'm sure they'll be one yeah like did they do one for dune they probably did right they did yes yeah yeah i can't remember what it was but yeah they did one for godzilla those was the one i think i shared that one with you right oh yeah that was anyone see that movie saskatch sunset by the way it's on my list of things to see it was reviewed extremely high i really did i watch the trailer for that we're like I think I'm going to wait for streaming on that one.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Let's see if I can find the current rating. It was really high. Sasquatch Sunset. I'm spelling Sasquatch wrong. Oh, my gosh, Scott, try to type. Sasquatch. There we go. That movie is currently sitting at,
Starting point is 00:27:23 not as high as it was, but it's sitting at 70. At one point, that was in the 90s, but it was early in the review process. But still pretty good. 70% In the misty force of North America A family of Sasquatches
Starting point is 00:27:34 Possibly the last of their enigmatic kind Embark on an absurdist quest hilarious and ultimately poignant journey Over the course of one year Oh I mean I don't know Seems all right Yeah seems just fine
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'll stream that I ain't gonna Oh it's on prime Maybe I can stream it Oh it's already prime Maybe no way Oh no you gotta buy it Never mind
Starting point is 00:27:59 never mind never mind it's for sale or rent at uh yeah furiosa sitting at 88% that's as close to 90 as you're going to get probably and uh seems like you're going to love it and i'm jealous i'm sure it will yeah i'll be there friday though you'll love it tomorrow when you see it'll be fine yeah it'll be great i still don't remember gotta check what kim on when our times are i hope it doesn't screw up anything outside plan i'm so excited though oh my gosh excited. That's a big week, everybody. All right. Well, that's it for that. Let's get to some news. Let's cover the news the way we know how, which is poorly. And here's your intro. Time for the news.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Brought to you by. Brought to you by. Cover story today happening for the Jewel Smiths band that wait. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to put a space there. Sorry. Jewel, who's turning 50 and the Smiths. Morrissey turning 65. Look at that, two people who go by one name, Jewel and Morrissey,
Starting point is 00:29:04 who you'd never see at the same party, guaranteed. You would not see Jewel and Morrissey at the same party. But you'll see them on my party, the cover party, happening at 12 p.m. at noon, mountain time, twitch.tv, slash coverville and some great covers. Of course, all the Smith's songs that you love. And then some really kind of weird ones from Jewel. She does covers of Donovan Sunshine Superman and, oh, a great cover of Abbas Take a Chance on me with Awall Nation.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Oh, wow. With Jewel. So look for that today at noon, twitch.tv.tv slash coverville. Utah's own Jewel. That's right. I forget that she's, yeah, I always connect her with Alaska, but she's from, and how is she the biggest selling artist from Utah? I don't know. I have no idea either. Like, I think it's single artist and not banned because otherwise, I think Imagine Dragons probably makes more money than they do.
Starting point is 00:30:01 That would definitely make more sense. Yeah. Or even, I can't remember the other ones. Panic at the Disco has a member of their, well, I don't know how that worked. Anyway, let's move on to, oh hi, hi, Carter, good morning. It's lovely to see you. My flesh and blood over there. Let's get to this story about a Korean man doing a real weird thing.
Starting point is 00:30:23 This also brings in more Tesla talk. A Korean man was spotted having sex with a pink Tesla. Oh, my. Okay, sure. Goodness gracious. In a disturbing incident that has left many people shocked. But it was pink, so, you know. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:30:41 This is fine. A man was caught engaging in inappropriate behavior with somebody's pink Tesla car. The incident took place on 18th at the Hyundai Department Store in Isan. This is in Korea, by the way. According to the victim's husband, his wife witnessed the man kissing and... The Tesla had a husband? That's a really good question. What do they mean by victim?
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's a pink-married Tesla? I assume you mean the owner, yeah. That's weird. Clearly the Tesla was the victim here. I think so. This is according to the victim's husband, I assume it's the owner. His wife witnessed the man kissing and touching her car for three hours before fleeing when she approached to get into the vehicle.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Following the bizarre incident, the couple attempted to report it to the police, but found out that unfortunately there was no specific charge that could be applied to this weird situation. Feeling hopeless, the husband decided to share the story on Navr Cafe site.
Starting point is 00:31:37 It was like a Twitter type thing. On May 18th, the site is considered Korea's largest Tesla community. Oh, I guess it's more like Reddit, I guess. Tesla Reddit, yeah, right. So there's a photo of this guy, not doing anything real lewd, but...
Starting point is 00:31:51 He's there. Oh, really? Yeah, because you know how the car takes photos around it? Oh, right. Yes, exactly. So he's over there making out with it. He looks like he's a robot, like his outfit and everything. Maybe he is.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Maybe he's a time-traveling robot, and this is how the robots take over. Like, what is he doing? Look, you can see, he's actually, so he's got a mask pulled down, and he's making out with the side of the thing. Looks like one of the door handles. and then down below he's doing a little undercarriage work, if you know what I'm saying. Right, I do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love the fact that, you know, he feels comfortable with the having the mask down to lick a car that's been driving around outside with bugs. Foul. Foul.
Starting point is 00:32:46 There's a, Brian scroll all the way down to the bottom. There's a shot of him on the hood. really getting going here. Oh, gosh, okay. Scroll, scroll, scroll. Another picture. Oh. Yeah, I don't think. Wait a minute. It's a totally different outfit, isn't it? It's also not a Tesla. That's a freaking...
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah, that's an Audi. It's an Audi. Can someone explain that? Oh, it's a different car. Is this a different guy? Hold on. Yeah, it looks like it's a different guy. In late March, a different man was engaged in sexual activity with a white Audi car. Boy, and this article keeps calling them cars. Like, it was a Tesla car.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It was an Audi car. Recorded footage exposing the man on top of the car's hood, rubbing himself against it before doing the same to the car's front fender. Is this a thing? Like, I don't want to kink shame. There are people into cars or something? I do remember, even in the days again, we talk about the soup. But there was a show that Joel Mikhail showed a clip from called My Weird Sexual Obsession or My Weird. I can't remember the name of the title of show.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Something along those lines. It's my strange obsession. And there was a guy who actually just would roll, you know, he got one of those mechanic roller things and he'd go under the car. Really? What? Yeah. I mean, I don't, I honestly, I really truly don't want to judge,
Starting point is 00:34:10 but this feels weird to me. Like, real weird. I don't think I'm punching down when I say, it's a little weird. All right. Here we go. My strange addiction, here is the video. actually if you're if you're ready for this oh my gosh i don't know if i am but i'll try it i'll see what you got yeah and i think i'll while you pull this up i will scrub and find the
Starting point is 00:34:30 the time stamp yeah the time stamp of him going under his vehicle oh gosh it's already killing me with this with the freeze the thumbnail yeah yeah that's bad uh i guess if you go to four minutes in one second all right let's go in here four minutes in uh This is where he's kissing the car. Oh, gosh. Yes. Oh, geez, Louise. Yep, there he is.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Oh, dude. Look what he's doing to this bumper. I want to die. Do you know where this has been? Oh, yeah. And that's the front of the car. That is, that collects the most, uh, the most foul stuff, right? His wife's fine with this, I guess?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Is that her deal? I guess so. Yeah. All right. you know what again i don't want to i don't want to judge but i kind of do here this is i feel like this one's okay we're in a uh
Starting point is 00:35:29 we're in a judgment zone a free a free judgment zone yeah i mean i'm not going to give i may have questions for this guy i'm not going to i'm not going to shit on him when i see him but i'm going to say hey what's your deal with the cars i'd say and he'll say i wonder if you know weiner i don't know what he'll say
Starting point is 00:35:46 do you think he lets let's his wife drive like do you think the oh gosh the car is his own like just him and the car like nope you've got your own car if you're going with me we're going to take
Starting point is 00:36:00 we're going to take your car I mean is it effectively like if she drives around slow in the trailer park and he's on top of the car making out with it is that like a it's like a threesome sort of yeah sure a monage car toa
Starting point is 00:36:14 or whatever Cartois. Anyway. Well, there's that. Is this what auto eroticism is? Okay, now it makes sense. Is it now? Oh, now I get it. All right. Here's another story for it's fun for all the Kyle's in our listening audience. I know we have a few. We do have Kyle's.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. Good friend Kyle Ferguson as well. It says here, 706 people named Kyle got together in Texas, but it was not enough for a world record. It was supposed to be the most Kyle's in one place. And they just got shorted a little bit. How many people named Kyle can fit in one place? Ask this article for one Texas city, not enough. It's a real shame. It still should have the record for the most Kyle's.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's just not the record for the most, the largest gathering of people with the same name. Correct, I believe. So here it is, another attempt by the city of Kyle, Texas. That's the whole point, is they're called Kyle. Okay, yeah. Of course you'd want to do this. To break the world record for the largest gathering of people with one name
Starting point is 00:37:14 fell short Saturday, despite 706 Kiles of all ages turning up at a park in the suburbs of Austin. The crown is currently held by the town of Bosina. Bosnia. Bosnia. Brian, do you remember the Bozina conflict of the 90s? Oh, I love the Bozina, yeah, exactly. Those poor Bozienians. Good Lord, Scott. Anyway, they got 2,325 people named Ivan together in 2017. according to the Guinness World Records. It's too easy, though, right?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like, getting Ivins together is like... Is it? There are a lot of Eastern European Ivans. Go to Walmart and get about 1,500 Karens, probably. Where would you meet? Where would the Karens meet? Where's the most, like... Who has the most managers they could have to talk to?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Clearly in the place where you file the complaints. Yeah, yeah. How many managers per square foot do you have in this store? Okay, excellent. We're bringing all the Karen. I think Mike's. Like, you know, you get Mike's, Michaels in America. That'd be an easy one.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Well, Brian, a podcast convention has, I think, 2,500 Bryans. Yeah, that's a good point. But we could do, like, you know, there's probably a city called Brian or a town. He's certainly ones that are spelled B-R-Y-A-N. I don't know if there's, there might be B-R-I-A-Ns, but I feel like I've seen a Brian. I know I've seen Brian's with a T. Brience. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 That wouldn't count. I've seen a Scott town. but it was a single T. Yeah, Brian, Texas. There we good. There we go. It's the Good Life, Texas style, is what Brian touts. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:55 The Good Life. Yeah. All right. That's good. Oh, there's a Brian Ohio, too. But both of them are spelled B-R-Y-A-N. What is their slogan? Do they have one?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Slightly better than Brian, Texas is their slogan. Oh, it's Shade Throne. Lines drawn. Just like the Brian in Texas, only not in Texas. There you go. It says here, let's see. The crown is currently held by I mentioned that. Okay, this is not the first time the Kiles have come together and tried to gun for the Ivans.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Last year, the official court or count, rather, at what has become known as the gathering of the Kiles clocked in at 1,490 in the fastest growing Texas city that has about 37 miles south or so. That's where they're located near Austin, the state's capital. Kyle is not a chart topper among popular names in the U.S. according to the Social Security Administration, which annually tracks the names given to girls and boys in each state. The most recent data shows Kyle only ranked 416th among males. So you need a more popular name. You need a more popular name.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Do you think they'd allow Kylie's? Yeah, I would. If I were them, I would allow it. But I'm guessing there's some rules in the record that won't let you do it. I wonder, yeah, exactly. So the question is, if there were a Bryan convention, would they allow both Brian's with an eye and Brian's with a Y.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I think they might let the Y's in, but they'll make them sit in the shit seats. Because they don't believe, they don't deserve to be up front. They don't get gazebo space. They have to, yeah, they're out in the, right. They're out in the nosebleeds, man. Perfect. Recent data shows Kyle Ranked 416th among names, and by comparison, Ivan, this surprises me. I don't know why, 153.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And that's just U.S. data. In U.S. It's like here, yeah. Is that wild? 153rd most popular name in the U.S. That's interesting. Ivan the more common, they called him. Ivan the frequent.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, I've been the frequent. There's more of me here than the, or the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the Kyle's. Um, here's a story. Around $500,000 worth of baby eels were seized at the Toronto Pearson Airport. Oh, shit. Yeah. I could not even tell you how.
Starting point is 00:41:09 many baby eels constitute five hundred thousand dollars worth yeah that could be you know my estimate somewhere between a million a million eels worth five hundred thousand dollars well let's see what is a i'm curious what a okay let's make sure i have this right yeah they've given out weights but they haven't said how many specifically how many eels yeah they don't say do they They just say that much money worth. I assume it's a lot of eels. That seems like there have to be a lot. Yeah, 109 kilograms of baby eels.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So, however, I guess you could maybe do that math of what is an average baby eel way and divide that. Divide 109 kilograms by that. Let's have a quick contest, not contest, but a quick quiz for you. What do you believe a grouping of eels is called? Oh, like a wriggling of eels. like that one. It's incorrect. There are actually four possibles that are allowed. Is thrush? Is thrush of eels?
Starting point is 00:42:13 So we have bed of eels is one. Another one is a conjure of eels. Oh, I like a conjure. I do, too. That's a mystical sounding. You got your run of eels and a swarm of eels. So there you go. Swarm. Swarm is just, come on. Swarm. People use swarm too often. It's like
Starting point is 00:42:33 the catch-all. It's the Vanilla ice cream of collective nouns. It's like ground bees versus swarm of bees. Right, exactly. Yeah, too many swarms. A swarm of ground bees. Yeah, I think a wriggling of eels is much better. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I came, I was swimming, and I turned the corner in the coral reef and found myself face to face with a wriggling of eels. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's better than a swarm of eels, I think. A run of eels. A run of eels. Eels. What does that even mean? Like last year's model, that was the full run.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Now this year, they're starting a new one. New Eel this year. Call it a new run of Eels. That's lame. That's weird. A new run. I don't like it. Well, anyway, the federal officials are saying that 109 kilograms of unauthorized baby eels or elvers. That's what they're called when they're babies. Elvers. Elvers. Yeah. Or Eelvers. I don't know if you, I don't know if you do it different with the way that E is because it's only one E in Elvers or versus Eels, too. Technically, too, they're just separated. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So I guess, all right, an elver is a slightly older, so it's a young eel. So maybe slightly older than a baby? Like an adolescent eel? Yeah, right. A tween eel. A tweel. A twill. E. Twill.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Let's see. The search was carried out by fisheries and oceans Canada, or the DFO, and Canadian Border Services Agency. Oh, I should probably shout out to our Canadian listeners. Canada! It says here, according to the officials, they were destined to be shipped overseas and are worth $400,000 to $500,000 earlier this March. The DFO announced it would not be reopening the elver fishery due to safety and conservation concerns. An investigation of this matter for violations under the Fisheries Act is now underway. Data shows that 149 people have been arrested for elver-related crimes.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Nearly 208 kilograms of elvers have been seized so far this year. 208. Wow. When they took them out of the airport, did they say the Elvers have left the building? I mean, one would hope, you know? One would hope. I would be there to do that. I would actually get on the PA system and say, the Elvers, the Elvers have left the building.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yep, they're all shook up, and they've left. Yeah, love them true. Everybody don't eat the Elvers or you'll have to poo. All right, next thing. Oh, this is a Colorado story. You ready for this one? Colorado Springs Fire Department works to save a man trapped in garbage truck Wednesday morning, Tuesday morning yesterday, two days ago. The Colorado Springs Fire Department worked to rescue a man from a garbage truck.
Starting point is 00:45:16 It says the man was asleep inside of a dumpster when the garbage truck picked him up. According to the Colorado Springs Fire Department, the proceeded to dump him inside the back of the truck. It's like the whole like chachunk thing. I actually hurt. The stupid shoulder. The department said the driver of that truck continued. Their route, route, how do you say it? Route, route.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I say route. I say route. Let's take another route. Yeah, rerouting. You know what? I would say rerouting. But if I'm talking about a, like, I will say root 66, I won't say route 66. That's true.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I would say route 66 as well. I would say route, route, what's the word route used for? Routing something. Like routing something is. carving it out like or like shaping the edge of something you use a router for oh right and that's the same root word right router um maybe i mean it's spelled the same but i don't i wonder if they oh i don't know it's it feels like a weird thing to say we're going to use the same word for oh no to route something is no e at the end so it's r o ut oh okay yeah yeah it's like raise versus raise
Starting point is 00:46:30 it's the same route word It's the same route word. I didn't even realize we were saying root there. That's funny. Well, anyway, picked him up and let's see. Then along the East Boulder at the UC Memorial Central Hospital, do you know where that is? Health Memorial Central? Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:49 No, I don't go down to Colorado Springs. Even though it says East Boulder, it's like that's a street down in Colorado Springs that not. Boulder and Colorado Springs are very, the cities are very far apart. So it wouldn't be, that garbage truck would not go from one to the other. So it's, yeah, UC Health Memorial Center somewhere down in Colorado Springs. Also, Springs are super... Hour and a half south of me. Boulder and Springs are basically opposed political parties, right?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yes, yes. Springs, very conservative, Boulder, very liberal. Yeah, never the twain shall meet. Spring, Colorado Springs must hate having an East Boulder Street, you know? I think so. That's the bad part of town that's considered. Anyway, the guy started yelling, so he's in the thing. and he started her
Starting point is 00:47:32 they let him out to remove the man they used the ladder lifted him out department says he was taken to a hospital right there to get checked for minor injuries he's okay though
Starting point is 00:47:43 but the lesson is if you're a homeless dude don't sleep in the dumpster all right not on trash day not a trash day right try and keep track of
Starting point is 00:47:53 keep track of each neighborhood's trash day and yeah if you can just sad situation it's a very sad situation regardless but
Starting point is 00:48:00 I'm glad he didn't die or it wasn't one of those mushy ones that mushes up the trash as soon as you put in there. Right, the compacts. Yes, oh gosh. That would have been bad. You know, that guy was he was destined for worse, but he found he
Starting point is 00:48:12 used, it's an example of now live your life a new way, all right? Or if you can't, you don't have any money, somebody maybe will help you out, all right? Right. Who knows what I'm saying? Let's move on. Let's go to a break and when we come back, we'll have Wendy here.
Starting point is 00:48:27 She's been gone the last couple of weeks, so it'll be nice to have her back. We've got an interesting email from one of you listeners. That's all coming up after this song, Brian Brought. Yeah, we're kind of going to stick in that metal direction. Although this is more of a, like, the lighter song that's included on the heavy metal album kind of thing. Sure. What's the Deaf Leopard?
Starting point is 00:48:50 When we make love, look in the mirror. Oh, Love Bites. Is that Love Bites? Love Bites, I think that's right. Yeah. Love Bites. This is a band called Blacklist. Union. This is their brand new song from their upcoming album, Slay the Dragon, which
Starting point is 00:49:06 comes out at the end of the year. End of 2024. This is a really early pre-release for the single, but that's great. The single is about the Battle of Good and Evil, says the band's frontman, Tony West. Here's the song, Horns and Halos, from Blacklist Union. Every time I've seen your face I've been blessed with such grace facing at a snail's face blast it off throughout a space Time to sorrow
Starting point is 00:49:56 Amos or shame Taking for when I said that name Got no time With the blame In my heart Still remain March and stone Lones and Phaedus
Starting point is 00:50:18 A hundred Express Cestincentia Mark the stone Ronsonator Take nothing less Prate from a family Love
Starting point is 00:50:40 Any time a child of the face You disappear without a trace Again we both child erase, yet our love still remains. No time for sorrow, a loss or shame. Me keep forward when I said that name. Got no time for the playing game, yet my heart still remains. Mark and stone
Starting point is 00:51:17 What's a pain Ones The heart of this express Says to lay it out Markle stone Ones Laws Layload
Starting point is 00:51:37 Taking nothing less Pray for what they know Long to pay you No, Rebreak Gestic storms As nothing the fears
Starting point is 00:51:51 reed down shall crowd With the pain down Love is come to love March and stone Love is
Starting point is 00:52:06 laid off The heart It's best It's best Destinale Loans and halo Locked stone Runs and halo
Starting point is 00:52:23 Take nothing less Pray for what they love Loans and hailed Rocked stone Roids and halo Dr. Dr. Dr. Ronsonado. Once a day alone. Drugs bring on depression make you mentally ill. You could become a thief. You could become a thief and liar.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Drugs killed. Old Sandwich. We've returned. Tell us one more time who that was. One more time. That was Horns and Halos by the band Blacklist Union. That comes from their upcoming album, Slay the Dragon, but you'll be waiting a while for that one.
Starting point is 00:53:42 end of 2024 for that album. Wow. So it's some time. That's right. Power ballad. Thank you, Mayor McChese. That is the word. Those are the words I was looking for.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Power ballad. Oh. Okay. So let me ask you this. The famous bad, or, um, the,
Starting point is 00:53:56 uh, she's, uh, five finger death punch does that cover of bad company. Oh, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Would you call that a power ballad? Because it is slower than they're huge. Yeah. It's a down tempo song. And I would say that that is a, I would say that's a power ballad. Or when disturbed does the one, the sounds of silence? Does the power ballad have to be, like, do the lyrics have to reference a relationship?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Because I don't think bad company does, right? No. I think it just mourns everyone. Love bites does. Love bites does. Ballad for me implies that, but it probably shouldn't. So September rain in, or November rain, sorry. November rain.
Starting point is 00:54:37 The demo version was September rain. Yeah, they released later that year, moved the month. month along but that would be a power ballot because that's about a girl and marrying somebody and all that okay that's a very good that's a good example yeah i like that song yeah you know what early prime time guns and roses pretty good stuff oh for sure yeah kind of miss that stuff i guess i could go listen to it don't you same with leopard too yeah that's true yeah love bites love bleeds brings me to my knees or whatever uh windy is on her way it looks like we need a ring her a second time here and uh oh
Starting point is 00:55:12 She hung up that... Pour the remaining sugar on me. She killed it, which means that probably means she's got two devices arguing with each other. Too many microphones picking her up. Yeah. Oh, she hung up again. Let's see. Is she good?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Maybe she'll text me. She says, one more minute. No worries. Totally fine. Yeah, she's saying stall. I just got a note from my brother. Let's see what he has to say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Oh, okay. Is he at the hospital? No, but it's been. night he sent me a note says are you sleeping scott oh i guess you up yeah you up who did new phone who this he says i do not have any pictures of me coming to the united states when i first came over did mom ever give them to you i'm compiling a video of about a mom interview with a korean adoption all right i don't know matt i'll send you a note i have no idea if i have photos of that we used to there's a there's a real gangly picture of meme with my arm around them at the airport
Starting point is 00:56:12 where he's a brand new orphan, you know, right off the boat. When he arrived. Oh, that's amazing. That's awesome. That's pretty cool. So here's a fun story. When Matt got to America, we hadn't named him that yet. His name was Li Song Su at the time.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Okay. I guess it's still his name, just his Korean name. And he comes to America, like Eddie Murphy, and he, we show up there, and he sees nothing but all these tall people. So he tells me, retrospectively, he's like, that freaked me out because I've never seen Americans before.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Everyone's really tall. Mom's, like, enormous to him, this kind of stuff. And it really freaked him out. And then what really freaked him out is we pull up to the curb and what he figured would just be his new home, which was my dad's motorhome camper thing.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Okay. But he didn't, he's never seen such a thing. And it had a toilet and beds and all this. So in his mind, he's like, well, that's, this is where I'm moving. And it also drive. places. So you didn't know what that was about. That very night he gets to the house
Starting point is 00:57:16 finds, I don't know when in the sequence of things this happens, but he finds a big bag of Doritos and eats the entire bag that night. Just ate everything in it, thought that was what you were meant to do. Yeah. Yeah. And then the next morning, which was a Saturday, Saturday morning, I find him down in front of the TV eating more Doritos. Oh my God. watching Saturday morning cartoons before anyone else was up. He took to that American life like a duck to water. It was very strange stuff, I thought, at the time. And I was kind of in charge, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:57 like I was supposed to be the one that was always, you know, keeping track of him, making sure he wasn't in trouble or whatever. Closest in age, probably, right? Yeah, he's only a couple years older than me. We think we don't actually know because his records are all schmopy. We don't know when his actual birthday was. But we think it was, we think it is when they think it is. But the orphanage just kept like shit records.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Like nobody really knows. My sisters and them, we don't, we don't know for sure. We just know we got when Misha and the doctors could say, oh, she's like three months old. And so it was easy to pinpoint that stuff down. But anyway, oh, I heard a sound. I think Wendy's here. I heard a beep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Let's find out. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. I agree. It's Wendy Dunford, my sister, Wendy, who joins us from Minnesota and is here this morning to talk to us. And also, you sound very busy. Everything okay. Are we all right on time and everything? Hello, Wendy, hello. We don't hear you. We do not hear you. If you're talking, oh, let's see. Oh, there we go. I'm back. Sorry about that. Yeah, it was just a client going over for a minute. And I was like, yes. Sorry. Sorry. I missed your other messages. And I was like, oh, crap. I keep bugging her.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Well, anyway, it's good to be here. Mom's doing good. You didn't hear this story earlier, but she was very confused last night because she saw an oxygen tank freely on its own, on the stand thing that you're supposed to walk around with. And she assumed that they had lied to her that they were giving her oxygen the whole time because that tank had nothing connected to it. I'm like, mom, like literally through the wall of the hospital is the oxygen now. They don't bring in tanks. It's like part of a... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 It's only portable and you leave. Yeah. So he was very confused about that stuff. John was hard, but it all went fine. Everything's good. Yeah. You know, all that stuff. I guess we were keeping you up to date last night.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So you know, thank you for doing that. Also, I was like, do I need to just get on a plane and come back? I'm so sick of planes. I know, right? Driving. Yeah. Mom, why couldn't, why couldn't you become deathly ill while she was here?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Dang it? I know. Helpful. Come on. She's still, you know, she's got her sense of humor. she's sharp as ever everything's fine that way um she just doesn't know how oxygen works no she doesn't understand that part and she also is so i don't have you notice this about mom at this age she's so food focused just very got to be bring me food right now and so this entire time we're there it's like
Starting point is 01:00:24 how's your breathing how's this okay we got these antibiotics and the doctor's asking all these questions and she kept going so when do i eat when's the food and at some point they sounded like they were at a restaurant her and john because the guy the nurse is like me get you guys anything can i get a diet coke with ice lots of ice though in this one and i'm like john you're not at you're not at the freaking olive garden what are you doing right exactly yeah so weird anyway uh everything's funny it's nice to talk to you though you and i were just barely oh ken wanted us to clear up that you were not driving a a tesla model three you're driving a model x just so you know i don't know what that means it's just a different model than we thought
Starting point is 01:01:05 was. All I know is that it farted while I was driving. Do you guys know about this? No. No, explain. So he waited. I took it after I was with you, Scott, I took it to lunch with a friend. And I was like, do you want to drive around the Tesla? She's like, sure. Because she had never been in one. And we get in and I'm driving and making myself motion sickness. Because when you go fast, oh my gosh, it's like G-Force is terrible. Anyway, so all of a sudden the car makes this weird skidding fart sound. And I'm like, whoa, have I broken something? And then it happened again, and we were like, I don't know. Well, what Ken did at home was wait until I had someone else in the car. And then you can make Tesla's fart, apparently.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Oh, he's doing it remotely, isn't he? Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's some sneaky BS right there. He was having a great time. Wow. Well, that would have made you think maybe something was wrong with the thing, right? You thought.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It didn't sound like a human fart to me, but I don't know. People at Tesla, you got to step up your fart sound. Oh, yeah. It did sound like skitting on, like, um, cardboard or something. and I'm like, have I broken this car? That would have been amazing. Especially now that I know it's an Exxonaut Model 3, that's about 40 grand difference. So you would have really wrecked that thing if you'd have heard it.
Starting point is 01:02:17 It's a nice job. Also, as I drove around, I was like waving at people. Like, it's not, don't, you're getting me wrong. I promise. I'm not unkind. I think you're just a, they all think you love Elon Musk now. You're clearly a giant fan. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Oh, she's such an Elon. On Musk fan. It was terrible. Musk's staying. It's zippy. Let's be honest. It's very zippery. Those things are zero to 60 and nothing, right?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like just, yeah. You know what we haven't talked about? What is Vegas. I haven't been on since we were. Oh, I know. It's exactly, yeah. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Not once. Totally true. Yeah, we've had two weeks of weird. No Wendy's since Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about Vegas for a minute. Do you have any?
Starting point is 01:03:00 I was going to ask, do you have a good summation of your time there? Did you enjoy yourself? Oh, I loved it. And this is just for the future. Misha and I got invited to some things this time, and we had so much fun. So we're never going to get on Discord, you guys. So if please invite us to stuff next year. Yeah, you went to dining, did the dining in the dark thing.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Dinner in the dark, yeah. And then we went to karaoke and laughed our heads off. It was so fun. And cute old guy. What's his name? Gary from Lantronics. Gary, love him. He didn't know I was in the room.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And he sang. the 1st of May. Oh. You know that song? Yeah, Jonathan Bolton. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, it was news to me. Funny thing is he picked a bunch of oldies,
Starting point is 01:03:42 and I know oldies well because I'm the youngest of a lot of old people. So anyway, I was laughing. It was a very funny song. The 1st of May, right? So afterwards, he's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't know you were in there. And I'm like, dude, it was a great song. Except my first thought was, you can't do that in Minnesota the 1st of May.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Oh, yeah. No. still got to be still got to be indoor yeah it was very fun and people were so cute and i got misha to do karaoke with me which sky maybe you don't know what a miracle that is but she no that is a hundred percent a miracle i can't believe that happened that's insane and she said to me well everyone's drunk they won't remember i'm like what i don't think they're that drunk but uh we i picked a back street boy's song that everyone knew and so no there was no chance anyone could hear that's a good way to do it yeah totally
Starting point is 01:04:33 It was great. People were so cute and fun. So it was such a blast. It was fun to me. Can I ask you about the dining in the dark thing from a like a psychological standpoint? Because it seems like such an interesting experiment to, you know, have complete sight deprivation. You still get sound. You still get, you know, touch or whatever, all that, smell, taste and all that. But, I mean, I've told you before, my experience in that experience when I went with Brian was very much the opposite what I expected. I thought it was going to be awful and anxiety-inducing. And instead, it was the most chill thing I've done in years.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Like, I just put me to sleep almost. I loved it. And I wonder what your experience was like. And also, does it say anything about how you react to a thing like that? Does it mean anything about the kind of person you are or personality you have or anything? Yeah. Well, okay, so I have a question. So I sent you an email about a divorced dad.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah. And I'm wondering, should we save that to next week? And then just because I forgot Lois, the Mrs. Taffy guy. Yeah, she sent me an email to discuss, and this was back in April, so I forgot. But basically, just to talk about the blackout dinner from both intuitive eating, which is kind of a thing we did with real steps a lot. And then just like the social stuff. I love it. Yeah, no, that's great.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I'm glad I brought it up. We can totally push this other one. Okay. Unless it's like super timed, I don't think it's time. No, no, no, no. I think I got it like this morning, honestly. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:00 We'll hold that for next one. So, yeah, let's talk about it. First of all, the initial walking into the room, if you recall, you just put like your hand on the person in front of you and you shuffle slowly into pitch darkness through a curtain and then, you know, they lead you to the table. And both, Misha started panicking a little bit. Yeah. She did not.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It turned her world upside down because she gets, she also gets motion sick very easily and she needs the world to ground herself, like she needs to see the ground or else she just feels like she's free floating in space. It's weird. Yeah. And I don't, I have it a little bit, but I instantly felt a little nauseous. So I, I was like, whoa, what is happening? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And I said, so then I had to turn on therapy mode. I told her, I said, hey, you're with a professional. There's nothing bad. It's going to happen. I'll walk you through it. And then I'm like, ooh, it's a little dizzy. But, so we shuffle in. And Kevin from.
Starting point is 01:06:55 San Francisco. Kevin, Ikew. Kevin Chu. Yeah. Yeah. Was in front of me. and then I'm trying to remember who was next to her. The taffees were on our table.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I know that, the taffy family. And then Andy was like Kidded Quarter and the other guy across me was also named Kevin. So that's kind of our little group. We shuffle in, I tell Mish, I'm like, close your eyes. And they had a standing still for a minute. So we closed her eyes and as soon as you could, your brain stop trying to see, it really made a difference.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Like we both felt almost normal. So that was good. So anyone, future reference, just go in with your eyes close. Anyway, so then, you know, they help us with that chair and all of that. And what I loved immediately is just how the brain is like, oh, I've done this 1,000 billion times. I know exactly where things are. And they told you, they said, like, your drink is at the top of your knife. And so you could just follow your knife with your hand and then there was your drink, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah. And within a minute, you just settle in. And you're like, oh, let's eat. Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. Once you get the hang of it, for me, it was like, seriously, like putting a hood on a hot. I just calmed down. I went in there and I sat as the most comfortable meal I think I've ever had.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And it made me think my eyes are my enemy sometimes. Like half of my anxiety is visual, right? Right, right. So that's probably a thing. Like the A Fantasia thing, you or in your case, very Fantasia, you are seeing lots of things. You imagine a lot of things. And they're very, it's real.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And if we think about how trauma will work, so often trauma can be a variety of things, but visual is we're the most dominant sort of sense that we often use as humans if we can see. So that's what we take in the information. That's why like a bush rustling, it's a visual cue, right? So there's sound, we can see a bush rustling. That means danger because there's some animal in there are about to jump out and kill us, right? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:08:56 But it's a visual clue. If we're not close enough, we'll see a visual. first and then we'll hear it and maybe we can smell something but for the most part it smells like our kind of our last thing unlike other animals but so you take this like our visual cue is gone in that setting and you close down all the other senses and then all of a sudden sorry that's very loud garbage truck um all of our other senses have a chance right they're like huh what does this smell like this is why I think it's the most clever way to get people to try in the food. Oh, interesting. Sure. I never thought of that. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You took away the pork taco look-alike that looks weird to you. Yes, you don't, like you're not looking at shredded tempe or tofu or something like that. You're thinking, all right, I'm just thinking about the flavors and the smells and right. And the flavor, I mean, it was so delicious. And everything felt fresher than it would normally, probably because it was fresh, but like you were appreciating because all you were doing is letting your taste buds tell you what you were experiencing, right? And everything was good and everyone kept talking how good that was or just, you know, and it's like seven courses, right? They bring you little things. And I love how they're telling you how to do it.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Grab here and then you will feel it's like a chip. And they give you enough to build the context for what it looked like. So I can't visualize very well. So I don't know someone else, Scott, and you could answer this. When they would describe for you what it was or what to do, Did you just picture it in your mind? Yeah, I would have like, they gave me these things that I think were in the shape of balls, like small breaded meatballs almost. But they were, I think they were vegan or they were vegetarian or something. Yeah, they weren't. But in my head, I still, right now, I can picture what I'm pretty sure those look like.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And it may be completely wrong. But I just have a very specific visual image of what those were, how big they were, how maybe what's on the outside versus the inside. like I had all of that very visual in my head. Yeah. And I think part of it was I was in a position where I had to focus on what that must be because it's the only thing I'm about to interact with. And I don't have any of the other distractions. I'm not thinking about what anyone else thinks or sees because they're all like me.
Starting point is 01:11:15 It had like an equalizing effect where everyone in the room is in the same page. We no longer can see what we're doing. And there was a weird freedom in that. Can't explain it. very odd. I went in there thinking I'm going to have the most claustrophobic nightmare time of my life. I'm going to get food dumped all over me. They're going to play a joke. It's going to be like, oh, by the way, you just ate a cockroach. Yeah, yeah. I was sure it was just going to be a nightmare and the thing that we'll have stories about and all that. Instead, it was like a nice,
Starting point is 01:11:45 warm bed when you're a kid. I loved it. And delicious meal. Yeah, I think, okay, so, so Mrs. Taffey, Lois was there and she was not eating because she has a bunch of allergies. So she was being very careful. But she just had a glass of wine and enjoyed watching us in her eyes closed. We're just listening and like asking questions. So it was really fun for her. And it was fun to have her there because we were like, what's this like for you? So we were having, you know, she kind of had her take on things and listening to us. I thought that was pretty fun. But we talked to intuitive eating a little bit while we were doing it. And so the concept of intuitive eating is ultimately like we are so disconnected from the sensations taste feeling experience of eating we do it so
Starting point is 01:12:27 unconsciously right just shoving food in her mouth so when you say like oh if i open it back i know this for you scott cool ranch Doritos you know it's over they're like they're gone right um and really what food companies do is like if you really taste a macdonald's french fry it is nothing but salt yeah it's it's not good but if you focus on it you wouldn't be eating them. You get the, your brain gets the fat and the acid and the salt and it's like, yay, I'm going to live. So it feels great. But if you stopped and really tasted your food, you probably wouldn't like most things you eat very quickly. Yeah. And texture wise, there's the right amount of crunch, but then it's obviously a disgusting, what is a Dorito?
Starting point is 01:13:11 I even know. Anyway, so the point is, the point of intuitive eating as a concept is, you know, you eat whatever you want, but you are slowing down. You're being. more mindful, you're paying attention, you see if you're, you check if you're hungry or not. And so what I found, and Lewis and I were talking about it a little bit, just what I found is I was super aware of how stuff tasted, of course. But then I was also like, I'm quite full. And then I'm like, well, I still have five courses to go. So I better get on full. And, you know, you kind of kept going. But my awareness of where if I was satiated or not was really like tuned in, And so, you know, as you practice sort of slowing down and eating more mindfully, what happens is you eat less, you eat food that actually nourishes you a little more.
Starting point is 01:13:59 There's some just natural consequences to doing that that you're not going to eat a giant bag of, let's say, Boston baked beans, which I do love. Oh, I love those so much. I know. I know. It makes this old, old ladies, Scott, you know that. Oh, I know. I know. It's really, it's like a step away from the hard candy in a bowl or something. It is.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It is. And they're so dumb because you'll. just keep eating it. But if you stopped and paid attention to how you felt, you might have five. Yeah. See, Brian's really good at this. Brian gets like a little bowl and puts his little snacks, whatever it is in there. It's like the most, it's the most moderate way to freaking do this. I see a bag and I'm like, I'm going to destroy you, you know? Yeah. Yeah. No, I've got that, that, you know, all those beaver nuggets and I've got a little bowl over the side. I took it upstairs to wash it out. But it's a little bowl, a pair of chopsticks, and I dump just enough for
Starting point is 01:14:48 that one. And then I put the bag away and I just have that bowl. and when I finish that bowl, I'm done. Yeah. It's the right way, dude. You do it right. That is the right way. And that, I mean, we could psychoanalyze you and find out how did you learn to eat that way? There's many things you could psychoanalyze about me.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Right. Yeah. You do it all right. But it may be that as a child, I'm going to guess, and you can tell me if I'm off here, but it may be as a child, food wasn't scarce. We'd probably start with that. Right. You were not fighting with, let's say, your older brother for the Doritos.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Right. That was not. You were not. And so food wasn't scarce. So there wasn't some kind of innate need to get more to make sure you had enough or whatever. It's also maybe like dinnertime wasn't rushed or distracted. It doesn't have to be that it's 100% perfect all the time. But just as a rule, eating was not a tumultuous time for you.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And also just like you're connected enough for your body. And that could be because you played sports. That could be because, you know, you breathe normally. We have a lot of reasons why we disconnect. from our bodies. Abuse can be part of that. There's lots of factors that could go into why we don't feel like we have control of our eating. And Scott, I mean, you and I, sorry, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:16:04 That said, I don't know what it is about when I go to a Mexican restaurant and they bring that bowl of chips and salsa that I feel like I need to make sure that when I, the second I finish the current chip I'm eating, I have to load up another chip and keep just a constant Trane, yeah. Yeah. Well. You know, I can be disciplined at home. I cannot be disciplined in a restaurant for some reason.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Well, there's a lot of things put into place. So that's the case, right? Yeah. The ambiance, the colors, the sounds, the smells, the whatever sugar's in it. Also, let's be clear. Have you seen that TikTok where the lady's like pretending she's a waitress at a Mexican restaurant? She's like, would you like nine whole tortillas? No.
Starting point is 01:16:47 No. And she's like, what if I cut them up in triangle? and fry them. And they're like, yes, I want them. It's about right. Yeah, that is, when you think about it and those, you know, that big basket of chips is really like, nine tortillas, deep fried that you'd never eat them if they were just served to as tortillas. Like, that's way too much. It's crazy. This is salsa too. Anyway, okay, so we have that intuitive eating part of the, the experience which was really fun to just feel very quickly connected. Because, of course,
Starting point is 01:17:20 of course, visually, also think of what else happens visually while you're eating. You are not just looking at your food, right? You look at your food to get enough information. It's not rotten. There's not, you know, mold or foam on it. But it is, and that's necessary for survival, right? That's why we look at, we look at food. You open a container in a fridge. What do you do? You look at it, then you smell it. We do both because the smells can be the second indicator that it's not safe for us. So this is how we survive, right? So it's all good. But when you take away sight, site also, sorry, the other thing,
Starting point is 01:17:54 site does is it shows you other things to do. It's very distracting, right? So you are looking on your phone. You are talking to another person. You are looking at the neighbor outside their house. You are, whatever you are doing, your brain, the visual keeps going. It's not just like staring at your plate, which is why restaurants have to do something else in the space for you to, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:18 want to be there if it was just a plain white room with a plate of food and no phone allowed you know people would not do well so so that was really cool to have the our site taken away because it took a couple of things away um so let me ask this when you guys did it how did it affect you're socializing not seeing people or not you know actually it made me very I thought we were all very conversational but there was definitely like a quiet don't you feel like Brian there's like a quieter like um i don't know yeah we we for some reason we wanted to not like we wanted to keep it mellow and not uh yell hey hammond what do you think of this you know this potato thing we're eating yeah i think this potato thing is very good scott what'd you think yeah we were like we were like
Starting point is 01:19:06 npr uh hosts yeah it was a very like i think that obviously that added to the experience because you didn't feel like you were at a loud, screaming restaurant where you had to talk over other people. It felt like we were eating in a library or something. Yeah. Yeah, isn't that interesting? So our other sense of sound and hearing, you modulate because it's dark. I noticed as I walked in, other tables were loud. And I don't know if I've walked in a restaurant and thought, well, that table over there is loud.
Starting point is 01:19:39 It's because it was my proprioception. It was like, where is that located? Yeah, right, right. my left, and I thought a wall was over there, but it turns out there's a whole people, right? And they weren't super loud. They just, we hadn't started talking yet, right? So once we sat down and engaged, it was quieter, but then I stopped hearing other people. It was kind of auditorily pretty interesting. I did notice one of the guys on our table was really shy. You could tell just sort of, you know, not engaging much in chit-chat with others in the
Starting point is 01:20:12 group and I asked him a couple questions and he shared about himself. And I thought, you know, in the light, he might have really struggled to have this conversation with me. Oh, yeah. Right. Don't focus on me. You know, something like that. Whereas it just felt really natural and he seemed comfortable. I mean, he could write it and say otherwise maybe it was awful for him. But, you know, he just shared some thoughts and it was great. But then there was plenty of like silence and there was chit chat about people's kids or a little bit. But really, our main topic was the food. And we would eat silently and then we would just talk about how, oh, I like the taco on the left. Oh, that was so good. And we just kind of gushing about food.
Starting point is 01:20:53 It would be way more, yeah, there's, there's way more, it's an opportunity for people to kind of talk about the food that they normally wouldn't talk about and come out of their shell a little bit like you're saying. They almost need to blackout karaoke where we, you know. Yeah. Of course, we need the light to be able to see the lyrics or we need some. blinding screen to show us the lyrics to whatever something's like that just feed it into our brain chips or whatever the future is yeah but make up your own lyrics here's the thing though like when you're when you're in that situation all of the you know we always talk about
Starting point is 01:21:26 body language everybody's got different body language we're always paying so close attention to how people are moving or sitting you know 60 to 70% of your communication is through body language so let's I just want to put a number on that no that's interesting that much yeah that's even more than I thought so so the fact that it's it's that's being taken from you and then also eye contact which is already very difficult for some people to do eye contact it's something used to be really hard for me I got better at it um and I can really hold someone's gaze now um which I think makes them uncomfortable you know because I'm like right straight into their eyes but um it was almost like exposure therapy for me to to do that um but not having that
Starting point is 01:22:10 there either suddenly all these weird artificial hesitation barriers are gone and all that's left is i say a thing the person responds or not you have a cover you don't feel like being loud or boisterous or using your hands to speak the way i'm now like you may even still be doing that in there although it felt like i didn't but even if you are nobody knows you are yeah and also you're all in a vulnerable state that makes you feel like you're with friends because the vulnerability of that is like all I could think of was like these dudes with their headsets on their night vision goggles yeah like they can see everything and I don't know if this room might be a total shit show there might be freaking you know poo smeared on the walls I don't know and those guys
Starting point is 01:22:59 could do something weird like you know walk by and look down your shirt if you're a girl or something or a man you know whatever I got boobs whatever um those kinds of vulnerabilities and then accepting that and acknowledging that I'm going to take a leap of faith here a little bit. That was also communal. It's weird. Weird thing, man. It's all in the same boat. I love it. That was great. Leveled the playing field for all of that stuff. Yeah. So do you recommend, like, what are ways of doing this where you don't have to go spend the $117 bucks in Vegas or something to do this? Can you, is this like? Let me say this. I love this idea that someone's like, let's do this and only in Vegas, right? Or maybe it's other places,
Starting point is 01:23:41 but just this idea of like, huh, food is so much more and it is. It's so much, the experience is so much more than visual. Visual's part of it. I mean, think of the fancy plates you've been served and you're like, I'm spending way too much money to have that look pretty. But that's part of the experience. That's whatever, right? And so for someone to go, let's rip out one of the things. I like that it also gives people a taste of what it would be like to be able to differently, right, to not see. And what it must be like to how people move around you and how much you need your hearing. Or, you know, they could do a dinner where there was no sound. That would be very interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I think that no taste dinner might be the dumbest idea. Don't do that one. So do you think that there's like even a little possibility. that uh uh candlelight dinners you know came from a little bit of um you know let's let's lower the lights let you focus on who you're there with and and focus on the taste of the food rather than a big bright restaurant where you're looking at your food and not paying attention to any of the other stimuli around you absolutely absolutely and if you think of like okay so we know a couple things a blue bowl if you eat popcorn out of a blue bowl you will eat more than
Starting point is 01:25:01 you will if it's in a different color bowl. Really? Okay. Yeah. And most of us, we're eating in the bowl. It's usually dark in movie theaters where I just shovel that stuff into my face. And darkness will do it too, right? Like, yeah, you're totally right. Also, distraction.
Starting point is 01:25:17 So when you shove puppy in your mouth, it's because you are not mindfully eating in any way. Yeah. And so, yeah. So blue and then red is another one that will get you to eat more. Oh, really? So that doesn't have the danger connotation. with that, right? Like putting something in a red bowl doesn't make you say, oh, dangerous.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I better not go crazy with this stuff. So think about most pizza places you've ever been in. What color is it? Well, I think of pizza hut and it's red. Yeah. I think of red every time. That's funny you say that. Yeah. And even from just like the classic, you know, plaid. Yeah, the red and white plaid. Yeah. All that stuff, right. So red, like decorating your kitchen in red, you'll just, it's like a hurried, like it's more of an aggressive kind of color, right? But what they found is people will just eat more and eat faster. And so that's a reason a restaurant will be designed in color a particular way is they want to, they will dictate how you behave. So if they really want you to change over tables quickly, they don't make it very comfortable to sit around. If they know you're going to spend a ton of
Starting point is 01:26:21 money on wine, the longer you sit there, you know, they're going to create that thing. And so candlelight 100% brand, I think, is an example of the food is less visible. And so, the food needs to be good, and then you will pay more for the food. And also the mood and the feeling, you know. Sure. Obviously, the first candlelit dinner was a long, long time ago. It was probably probably, you know, candlelight dinners in caves. Forever, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And then they're like, this is kind of getting me in the mood. All right, let's make a restaurant. So there's a lot that goes into these strategies and, you know, because people have figured out, social sciences figured out, like, how it helps and alters our behavior and so i love this as an experiment um and honestly if everyone it's be fun to do let's have all of frog pants eat dinner with their eyes closed for a week and see what happens um i think really if you closed your eyes and ate food on a regular basis you might realize how much you didn't like the food or you would you wouldn't eat as much
Starting point is 01:27:24 of it there'd be a lot of different things happening because we've taken out the visual cue um but i don't if anyone wants to live their life like that. But you could. Just get your old. Like your binders, your sleep like masks. Just put it on. There we go. That might be a fun just experiment.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Like the next time you go for a snack, just blindfold yourself, sit down, take a deep breath and eat it and see what it feels like. I think the other thing that this did was it was so consuming. It just, it was unrelenting. Yeah. And it's not like you could get up and walk a few steps and be out. You'd have to get someone with their goggles on to walk you out. out and it's, you know, it's not far, far, but there's no, like, you can get up and run.
Starting point is 01:28:07 You would run into someone or crash into a tape. You would not know where you are. It was a level of darkness. I've only seen inside a cave. Yeah. You've done a good job. Let's say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:18 They did a good job. Yeah, they really, they seal away every bit of light except for once in a while you would glimpse that little infrared green thing on their head. Yes, on their masks. Yeah, a little disconcerting, but nothing terrible. But it's all about deprivation. And it's hard to do Somebody, I watched some YouTuber,
Starting point is 01:28:34 maybe it was, well, Bill is here, I can't remember, but he was talking about paint that is the darkest possible paint. Oh, yeah, what was that called? It's like, it's a called,
Starting point is 01:28:41 not Kelvin, but it's something like that, right? Crazy dark. Absorbs all light, like just destroys it. If you build yourself a little closet and paint it like that and then do a pretty good job of,
Starting point is 01:28:52 is that's what it is? And then you take your door and you seal it pretty well, you could create a similar vibe of just complete blackness. Like that's the part that get you. Because once you settle into that, that's when I chilled out.
Starting point is 01:29:06 It wasn't until I realized just how complete the darkness would be. So there's no way to build dimension around me. You start focusing on looking for that trace of light and seeing what you're seeing from that. Which was probably, yeah, it was probably why it was overwhelming for Misha at first because she just didn't have her anchor points that she's used to. And part of that is seeing some form of something
Starting point is 01:29:25 so then you can latch onto it and go, well, there's the corner. I'm good. And I've thought about this a lot. Like how I do really well when I meditate alone in the dark. Like that's a good place for me to go do that. If you tell me to do it on a couch and broad daylight, even if no one's home and all I hear is birds, it's still very distracting for me.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And I wonder how much of that is visual for me, you know? Yeah, totally. And that's part of this sort of journey anyone is on. It's like, how do I operate? So I learned two things in Vegas about myself. one was I can I sense people near me like I could not see anyone but I always knew when the waitress was near me yeah and she'd say behind you and I'm like I already know and I thought oh that's interesting like I have a lot of mirror neurons uh I know that but I didn't know I could
Starting point is 01:30:21 have mirror neurons work when it was dark which was really weird because I could just always tell she was near me. Okay, so that was one. Then the other thing I learned was with Brian. Brian, when I came into the room to do the, um, the dice task. Yeah, the dice task, I rely so much on winning someone over to help me cheat. Yeah. Oh, I noticed that. Yeah. And I was like, how dare you not work with me here, Brian? I know. Yeah, you're like, how did Scott do? Oh, can I use what? Can I actually pick them up with my fingers after you just read the Let me tell you, it's just concerning when you're your co-host, the person that when you're on the morning show with all the time, and when you bounce off each other constantly, and then you go into a room where he will not tell you shit? I have to be, I just have to be as stoic and is like not helpful. And not even like restricting the jokes I make and stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Like I would be, you know, yeah. It's impressive. And when people watch the final result, they're like, that's so funny. And I'm like, no, it's majorly awkward. The whole thing is so awkward. But I did learn, like, when you would just stand there and smile, I almost made it worse. But I realized, like, oh, I borrow people to manage a room. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:41 And no one helped me. Everyone's little faces of just staring at me. I was like, you have that audience that everybody always imagines as the worst audience, which is the not giving you any feedback. or anything and just staring and just watching. It's like, yeah, that's the anxiety-inducing audience right there. It's very hard. And then the final product, honestly, I thought was so flipping fun and funny,
Starting point is 01:32:09 that I was like, I have ruined this. I really thought I've ruined this. Oh, yeah. And that's because it was so dang awkward and you wouldn't help me. And then later, you cut it. So it was funny. And I was like, oh, it's this the magic of reality TV editing. it is yeah it really is especially like the going back and forth and saying my god who would use
Starting point is 01:32:30 chopsticks and then here's scott trying to use chopsticks yeah no k t data and hammond just did such a great job with all that stuff did you have you shown the video to anybody else in your life to you know i don't know how to get it can someone send it to me yeah there's a youtube video scott will send you a link oh send it to me scott right now oh yeah for sure we have the whole thing in there so yeah that would do that okay yeah it was just what a what a what experience and also just, I am apparently very chaotic as I stacked ice. Yes, you were. You made a very accurate representation of Excalibur, the Excalibur Hotel, many towers,
Starting point is 01:33:07 not one tower, many towers. And chaos, like inside just chaos. Yeah, actually, that is the end of the example. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then when I watched everyone else, I thought, oh, my brain does not work like theirs. That is so basic. Just support it as you build it.
Starting point is 01:33:23 What is my problem? Yeah. still did pretty well though you did better than me you still came in second yeah yeah I did I did terrible this year me and Fletcher or not Fletcher me and Tom and Tom and Tom just said I feel like that's where the tower wants to stop like that's as far as the tower wants to go and I'm like really you know this is a competition yeah yeah yeah he's like towers telling me I had a friend who taught pottery classes for a long time and he said every person reveals themselves as a they throw a pot. You will find out if they're anxious. You will find out how their mind works. You will learn everything you need to know. And I was just like, yeah, I mean, maybe. And I'm like, oh, have them stack a tower in a silent room where people are watching them and filming them. And you might find out how our brains really work. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be surprised. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's super interesting. I think, I don't know, I'd love to hear some people's
Starting point is 01:34:21 examples of how they can achieve this sort of thing. Because we're not. just talking like, yeah, this blackout feeling. I know sensory deprivation tanks exist. I've never tried it. You should, Scott. Let's do that as an experiment because you, I think your experience in the dark would indicate you would probably do really well with it. Yeah, I think I would. I see those on Group on all the time, those, you know, like sensory deprivation tank for an hour for 30 bucks or something like that. And I keep thinking I'd like that. And then I'm like, but I get kind of claustrophobic in areas where I can't turn around. Like if I were to Bruce Willis my way through a heating vent, I would freak the heck out.
Starting point is 01:35:00 But I think those are big enough that you're, you know, you don't have a, the top of the ceiling of this thing is not an inch above your face. It's white enough that I could, I can maneuver. Yeah, I'm looking at one right now where this girl is laying in this tank. It's all waters in there, obviously, because it creates the weightlessness feeling. Sure. but she's spread she's spread arms all the way out and she seems to be pretty pretty well yeah i don't know if you can rotate around or i assume probably you could but so i i sent adam to do one once thinking it would help de-stress him and he didn't quite love it um i think it's just that
Starting point is 01:35:36 i'm sort of still in public i have to get out and like i don't know whereas just a lake that's quiet in norway i think is where he would do best um but i think everyone's a little bit different but if you're fun to have you do it because i might do it i'm sure there's places right i could go and do this somewhere totally totally totally but there's not one in green river where you could meet halfway and turn it into show content yeah and then we could uh sushi after yeah you guys might be surprised i would google green river you might be shocked someone's got their basement tank oh great yes let's go into somebody's basement tank yeah definitely don't don't trust basement tanks yeah you've uh you just lost me
Starting point is 01:36:17 If I go SLC Deprivation Tank. Let's just see. Is there a service? Is there a thing? Oh, gosh, there's tons of these. Float Spa 19. People love them. Top 10.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Oh, there's a top 10 on Yelp in Salt Lake City. All right. You guys both come meet me in Minneapolis, and I will take you to the quietest place on Earth. There is a building here that is technically the quietest place on earth. Really? So when you go inside, you can hear your blood flow.
Starting point is 01:36:53 You can hear your, like your bones, create marrow. I don't know how much you can hear about a lot. I thought it was a Dane Cook comedy special. Isn't that the quietest place on earth? Oh, I think Dane Cook's not funny. Anyway, sorry. Continue. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I find him so obnoxious. I don't know why people laugh at him. Nope, I'm with you. But anyway, yeah, I might do this for the show, for show content. Yeah, do it for the show. I would love that. And then we can debrief after. I'm not doing any photos of me floating in the soup, though.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Forget it. No, don't do not. Yeah. Also, you go, 60-minute couples float session for new clients. Here we go, one 90-minute floatation tank session. How much? Their price? Let's see, 60 bucks. That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:37:39 That's not bad. Also, I can just imagine a lot of people don't make it a whole hour and 20 minutes. That's a long time. I know. Exactly. 90 minutes feels like a long time to not have any other stimuli. What's holding you up? What hold you up in there? How are people floating and not seeing? It might be super salty water or something? Okay. So that's why they're all laying on their back and looking motionless. Yeah. And it's not like smell bad and salt, like the Great Soul Lake. It's like it's therapeutic. But it also does. You really just, you just float.
Starting point is 01:38:15 You're saying it's not full of like brine shrimp or anything. No. All right. Great. Oh, they should combine that though with the little fish that eat the dead skin off your feet and just have it all all around your body. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Especially if you practice meditating, if you practice meditating at all, you probably could do pretty well. I think for anyone who's never once sat with their own thoughts, this might be a lot. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go do it. And on my way out of that place,
Starting point is 01:38:39 I'm going to turn back to the receptionist and go, I peed in there and then leave. See what they do. just see what they do. What are they going to do? I peed in there. Bye. They'll be like, you're not the first or the last. You're not even the first today, buddy. All right, well, we'll report on that later.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I think this is interesting stuff. Let us know at home what you think of this sort of thing. Do you have an experience you want to share? This sort of thing changed your perspective the way it did for us while we were eating. And I'm really glad nobody ever got like food poisoning in there. That would have been real bad. Oh, gosh. Yeah, for sure. I might have a very different opinion of this experience if they didn't take care of that.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Yeah. Maybe just work on, you know, resting your eyes a minute while you're eating something and see how it tastes. You just start there. Yeah, just close your eyes and then see what happens. Wendy, it's always fun and a pleasure to hang and talk. We'll keep you informed with happens with mom and other than that. Tell Peter he's weird and we love him. Oh, I will. Let me ask real quick. So we have this other email, but Brian, I'd love if anyone else was at the little meeting in Vegas where I did this. the thinking exercise and like whatever. Brian, I know you had a pretty cool experience. Yeah, for sure. Well, I'll have you talk about it next time, but if anyone else has one,
Starting point is 01:39:54 they might want to share of just what shifted for them as they were in that little thing, we can tell people more of what happened. Yeah, that's a good idea, but also this reminds me of why it felt like we've had you on more recently. It's because you sat here in my office and we recorded a, just kind of a quick little chat.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah, for therapy show. So we've got a little preliminary file up there. It is available on this feed and a few others. They'll be of its own dedicated feed, of course, and that's coming soon. So watch for that. But more information coming soon on the plan there for better you and all that stuff. So just keep your eye on the prize. We'll let you know.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Sounds good. Anything else, Wendy? All good. You all set? It's all good. All right. Have fun. Kiss our butts.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Just kidding. Don't kiss our butts. That's a done-away thing. All right. Well done there. Let's move on out of the show today. There's a bunch of content coming, so you're not going to be short of shows this weekend. You got Coverville today, like Brian said, noon.
Starting point is 01:40:52 That's right. Jewel Smiths. Yep, Jewel Smiths. Check that out. Yep, they're really good at making jewels and setting your rings and all that. Exactly. You can sell them on the auction house and make Buku bucks. That's good stuff there.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Also, Core tonight, 5 p.m. Should be back from, I think there's going to be a lot of hospital running, but I should be back. Sure. Anyway, that'll be at 5 p.m. tonight. play retro tomorrow at 1.30. There's also a plan for the what do you call it? Couch party tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yep. Tomorrow more firefly. Planned. You know, obviously. That's the plan. I'm trying to find out what's going on, A, with my mom, B. I don't know when my tickets are to Furiosa, so I've got to figure that out. But as soon as Kimmel. I guess the connection tomorrow morning at 9 that is on, and we're going to give away this Hulk cookie mug.
Starting point is 01:41:37 It's a Hulk's head. You fill his head with coffee or hot cocoa, and then you put a a cookie in his mouth and it keeps through your cookie war. Oh, I love that. He's like going, ah, and he can put a cookie in his mouth. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Where was this when I was a kid? I know. I know. What else? Film Sack this weekend. We're doing The Hitcher. The Hitcher. I cannot wait, actually.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Take if you will, the hitcher. It's either, it's either going to be not hold up at all or I'm going to love it. I don't know which I'm going to expect here. We will see, though. And then, like we said, couch party, be here for all this stuff. The schedule's up. No show Monday. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Just a little reminder. Right. That's actually probably perfect. My guess is my mom will come home that day and that'll be a good day for me not to be here. So we're going to do that. But yes, go celebrate Memorial Day. Go have your barbecues and your what-nots. And we won't be here that day.
Starting point is 01:42:32 But we'll be back Tuesday. I think that's it. Progpants.com slash TMS for everything. Brian, let's get out of here with music. Do you have some music? I have one to just go out. on the week with. This one comes to us from Leslie, Logan's mom.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Hey, guys, I just stumbled upon this incredibly beautiful cover of Imogen Heaps, Hide and Seek. What you say? Performed by the Acapella Group, Fifth Street. It gave me goosebumps from start to finish. Any day is good. To play it, no special occasion. It's just a great cover.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Sure is, and let's play for you right now. This is just something that they put up on their channel, and I love it. It's gorgeous, and it's, and it's a great rendition of the song, which is already an a cappella thing with a vocoder, like the original image in heap song is electronically acapella.
Starting point is 01:43:23 This one is just people, acapella. Here is hide and seek by Fifth Street. People versus robots. Very nice. That'll be it for us. We'll see you guys on Tuesday for a regular episode,
Starting point is 01:43:34 but check out all this stuff on the weekend. Plenty going on. And we'll see you then. Where are we? What the hell is going on? The dust has only just begun to form. Crop circles in the carpet. carpet sinking feeling
Starting point is 01:44:19 spin me round again and rub my eyes this can't be happening when this is happening when this is streets, a mess with people would stop to hold their heads heavy. Hide and seek. and sewing machines, all those seas, they were here first, oily marks appear, broad walls where pleasure moments are before the takeover the sweeping insensitivity of this still life. hide and seek trains and sewing machines
Starting point is 01:46:25 you'll catch me around to blood and tears They were here first. What you say? That you only meant where? Well, of course you did. What you say? That it's all for the best. Of course it is.
Starting point is 01:47:01 What you say? That it's just what we need. and you decided this, what you say? What did she say? Ransome notes keep falling out your mouth. Mids, sweet talk, newspaper work out of cups. Speak, no feeling, no, I don't believe you. You don't care of it, you don't care of it.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Ransome notes keep falling out your mouth. Sweet, sweet talk, newspaper, work ads. Speak, no feeling, no, I don't believe in. You don't care of it, you don't care a bit, you don't care a bit. Don't keep falling out your mouth. You don't care of it. Sweet talk news, people work at it, speak, no feeling, I don't believe.
Starting point is 01:47:56 You don't care with you, you don't care a bit, you don't care a bit, you don't care a bit. This show is part of the FrogPants Network. Yes, get more at frogpant.com. Is it bigger than a mouse pad?

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