The Morning Stream - TMS 2651: Shuckelheads

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Spine, Crackle, Pop! I Don't Like Alpha Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Chevy Shovette. Brian's carbonated meat woman. Your Princess is In Another Axis. Another Sand Movie. That'll do Penguin...... That'll do. Danny Elfman - Elder God. Really changed the way I block sunlight. Tube in a Tube. Papyrus - Font of the Gods. Putting All Americans In A Pothole. The Only Adult in Any Room. The Man on Google Lied with Tom. Artsy & Fartsy Recommentals w Randy, Nicole & Matteo and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:11 I don't like Alpha P. Chevy Shub it. Brian's carbonated meatwoman. Your princess is in another axis. Another sand movie. That'll do, Penguin. That'll do. Danny Elfman. Elder God. You know, it really changed the way I blocked sunlight.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Tube in a tube. Papyrus font of the gods Putting all Americans into a pothole The only adult in any room The man on Google lied with Tom Artsy and Fartzy Recommentals with Randy, Nicole and Mateo And more on this episode of The Morning
Starting point is 00:01:43 Stream So what's next for you, Mickey? What are you going to do? Going straight, Bob. I'm going to get a job Find myself a gal Or I don't know what people do nowadays Build a barn, maybe Paint the barn with the gal
Starting point is 00:01:54 Put the gal on the barn And yeah, maybe You know, American Dream, gal on a barn Yeah. Now, you know that little boys like our Johnny have a penis. The Morning Stream. If you have a job, you wear the pants. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for the 29th of May, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian of it. Hi, Brian.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Beryling ever closer to the end of May and the beginning of June. Yeah, I'm ready for it. Bring some June on, you know. It heated up yesterday. We got some sun, the clear skies, all that business. That's been, it's been real weird around here. And then suddenly we got good weather, and I am loving it. It was gorgeous yesterday. Went on an eight-mile bike ride. I basically did one of the smaller loops that I did do.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And then I said, oh, there's a hill. I could tack on this other hill and just basically go up the hill over a little bit and then down the hill just to kind of add on a little bit extra to the ride. And I did that and I feel great. Back is still hurting though. Like when I'm on the bike, I'm okay. So that position is okay. But man, getting out of bed, it feels like I got seat clamps on my spine on the back center. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We need Brian in full back health. you know I do exactly does it pop for you can you get it pop it doesn't no I can't even I can't even figure out specifically
Starting point is 00:03:36 which part hurts I can't zero in on the exact spot that hurts so I don't know if Tristan does this all three of my kids can do this whole like they'll turn and you hear a whole oh yeah
Starting point is 00:03:49 and they can do this with ease I can't do it no as close as I get is this I pop my knuckle that's it yeah this is good as it gets for Scott Johnson, and I wish... Look at that. Yeah, I wish I could, though.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I wish I could, like, just crank my neck and have all these things pop up and down like they do. I don't know if you do. I mean, it's really just the release of, like, air pressure or something, isn't it? It's not like it's relieving. It's just... I don't know. They claim it is, but maybe they're up to... Really?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Maybe they're full of it. They could be full of it. They make claims all the time, Brian. I don't know about this generation of kids, you know? They think they got it all figured out. Yeah, see? Oh, man. Is it high?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Is it low? Is it mid? It's low. It's like by my kidneys. Oh, well, nobody likes the lower back stuff. I hate that. Nobody likes the lower back stuff. It's probably my liver just finally saying, screw you.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I'm getting back at you now. I'm going to grow some tendrils, wrap them around your spine. Yeah. That's what your liver does after time, after enough drinking. After too much drinking, after too much gin, that's exactly what the liver does. come here for your medical advice everybody we know how the body works uh all right we're gonna we're gonna get into it today i got a call i want to start off with because it's in reference to you anytime hypercard comes up we have a conversation right yeah yeah and so we got a we got a response
Starting point is 00:05:14 about hypercard and uh love hypercard yeah i think that's great i feel like it's you know someone it's one of us really when they call in so here so here he is if it'll play here guys i was listening to tm and i'm really behind. Go figure. It was the episode about the eclipse, or right after the eclipse, excuse me. You guys were mentioning Hypercard.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Brian had built some sort of application in Hypercard or Supercard. They got me remembering when I was younger. I played a series of really wild adventure games called Ray's Maze on my old
Starting point is 00:05:53 Macintosh. Did you guys ever play Ray's Maze? If you haven't, man, Google that. That is a wild piece of like adventure software from back in the day, like crazy freeware stuff. Anyways, peace. Love the show. So I went and looked it up. I hadn't heard of this, but it's called Ray's Mays, Graphic Adventure, released in 1990.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It was created with the World Builder Game Creation System, created by this guy named Ray Dunniken since it's named after him. Is it Dunniken? Yeah, Dunnickin. Dunniken. Never heard that name before. Anyway, no formal training. Ray started working on this thing on his family computer in 1989, created this thing.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'd never even heard of this game. Never heard of this either. But, boy, there are, oh, actually, Ray Dunnickin.com. Look at that. He's got his whole, like, he's a dude. He's a regular dude doing dude things. He's just, we had something called a Mess of Trouble 2.0 for OS10, now available in the Mac App Store.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I don't know. Oh, wow. OS 10, you say. Wow. Oh, yeah. He's got all kinds of stuff he's got going here. Boyd Rune's Temple of the Holy Macroo. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's good for him, man. Yeah, look at that. Old stuff, new stuff, something called Twisted Deluxe 2.2. Oh, these are all old black and white shit. You're old black and white hypercar looking. I mean, these are, like, you know, you can tell from that Mac paint style of when you paint an area, fill in area with a pattern. and it's just this black and white, weird repeating pattern over and over and over again. Very weird. Very specific aesthetic back then, this look. It's very, very different.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's one of the things I really want one of those play dates for, the little thing with the crank on it, the little yellow game machine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The style of the screen, it's monochrome, but the look of it is very like that early Mac game. Very much like this, yeah. I love that stuff back in the day. It was so cool. Well, anyway, Ray Dunnickin, we see you. All right, buddy? That's right. And good job, caller, on making us dig into that thing. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I've never heard of it before, but it's cool. That's awesome. We also have a theory on the P guy in the movie theater that I saw that did a two and a half feet back thing and decided to arc get past me. Here's what he says, Dave and Toledo. So, Scott, we call what you encountered an alpha P. And what you experienced was an alpha P and a dab. Brian, the only thing missing was truck nuts. So two things here.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Did he dab after the alpha peed? I don't know that he dabbed. He just, well, when he says dab, does he mean like dab-dab? Does he mean like the dab? Is it like, you know, like used a piece of tissue paper to dab? Or did he like do the actual, like, yeah. Yeah, I think he probably means the former. I don't actually know.
Starting point is 00:08:44 But thanks for that. Also, the truck nuts on that truck. Look, I know it's easy to stereotype truck drivers. We haven't gotten a bunch of feedback or anything from truckers or people that like trucks. Oh, no, but I could follow up on that because I talked to a serenie. about it and he he brought up something that makes a ton of sense and I but he was the um yeah he reached out almost immediately but basically like truck uh people in long pickup trucks or big pickup trucks that back up like that yeah um are doing it because it's a lot easier for them to see
Starting point is 00:09:13 pedestrians walking in front of them when they pull out and other cars than it would be if they were backing out of a spot and and having their long truck bed come and stick out before they really get a chance to see if there's a another car coming or pedestrians even if they've got like a little camera on the back um so you do you think they're being altruistic about how they're parking they're like i'd like think that scott and i feel like i feel like my world is a better place whether or not the world is a better place but my world is a better place if i think that that's the that's the reason well nine-tenths of everything you experience is just your own perception right so if we yeah if we perceive them as doing a nice thing well then all right then i mean i guess
Starting point is 00:09:54 really a hundred percent of what you experiences your perception 90 percent of it is accurate oh yeah that's a good point right yeah well uh all right we'd like to hear from like real truck people though i want to we haven't had any uh so far i check the emails i check the emails yeah i think the real truck people we may not get more of a response but um also uh just kind to to put a little note on this still have not figured out who the actress was in my dream last night. I took some, I took another muscle relaxing last night, hoping that I'd see her again. We talked about
Starting point is 00:10:28 a little, this is a pre-show, but and thank you all for for shouting out all the names that you've shouted out or sent in DMs and emails and posted on social media and in the Discord. So far, I've not been able to find her, but I
Starting point is 00:10:44 my, so it is absolutely entirely possible. Jeannie suggested this that my mind has amalgamated several actresses during my sleep into somebody that is convinced my brain that it's real. Right. And that has even placed memories of seeing her in
Starting point is 00:11:00 other TV shows as being real. Yeah. So that after I woke up, I still believe that she's real. I think she has the I think she has the truth of it. I think that's true. I don't think so. I mean, but of course, of course I'd say that because in my mind, she's real. And I remember
Starting point is 00:11:16 seeing her in TV shows. I just can't remember the damn TV show that I've seen, TV shows that I've seen her in. But it's going to happen that I'm going to see her in something. And then I swear to God, it's going to be like freaking carbonated meat. I'm going to like, there she is. Look, everybody. I wasn't imagining it. That's the woman.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It would be funny if you watch like bridesmaids and then found out that all the women and bridesmaids are the one woman in your dream. Do you know what I mean? Mushed together. It's by Rudolf, Kristen, Wig, Melissa McCarthy. Yeah. Just one big amalgamation. Yeah, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Some movie with tons of. of women in it and it turns out you've pushed them all together into one blob i mean it's it's it's it's more likely that it's a combination of all those women that i find really attractive zoe de chanel mora tyranny um yeah uh you know basically like oh kate walsh sure sure gosh everybody kept saying kate walsh that was really funny a lot of kate walsh uh okay i did i just checked the inbox and we did get a couple of truck things so i'm going to read these real quick oh good okay yeah this uh came overnight lassie from Finland. It's probably said differently than Lassie. L-A-S-E. I don't know how you'd say Lassie.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Oh, sure. Or Lace Lass. I don't know. Lassa. Their last name is inpronounceable. It's Vinikana Ferdic. Not by human tongues. It's an alien language that are human tongues just cannot pronounce. Very weird. Anyway, it says, hi. People backing into parking spots because it is easier to see cross traffic when you are leaving. It's also easier to maneuver in a tighter space when the turning wheel comes in comes in last. I've only heard Americans complain about this, so I'm left to conclude that this is one of the many things, proving yet again,
Starting point is 00:12:57 that Americans just can't drive, says Lassie. Best regards from Finland. Thank you for that. Boy, well, we do get a lot of, you know, so much, not so much. But the occasional American generalization, it just cracks me up.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. Put us all in one little pot, one little hole. Here's one from Josh. He says, hello. His subject is back that ram. up. I love that. This is former UPS driver here. So he's a UPS guy. He would have a good answer to this. I should call my brother because he does that. In driving school, we were taught to back into spots due to safety. If you clear that area first, you can safely back into the spot. When you leave, you are pulling forward and can see ahead of you, thus avoiding backing into anyone or anything. At UPS, any accident is your fault for not following your driver safety training. Love the show, Josh. So they don't even have, you know, if you screw up in a UPS truck, someone hits you. You. Sounds like you got a, it's your fault.
Starting point is 00:13:55 You're busted. Anyway, so that supports everything we've heard so far. One final one here from Justin. Let's see. It goes by Lord Scuttlebutt in the chat. Ola Bump and Struggle. I am one of those annoying people who backs into parking spots nearly every time I park. And I'd love to defend this practice to you.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Here goes. This just got here 18 minutes ago. That's why I didn't see it. Oh, wow. Okay. So literally like while we've been recording the show, they respond. pre-show or something. Anyway, it says number one. Number one, it's safer. Instead of backing out with typical lousy visibility in the driveway, there are pedestrians where they're likely
Starting point is 00:14:30 to be. Backing in a spot puts me in a better position to see people as I leave. So again, supports what you had heard. Number two, it's convenient. It's totally easier to back out than pull, sorry, it's easier to back in than back out, particularly if you have a long vehicle. I got a long vehicle. Number three, Brian's just jealous that he sucks at backing in smiley face oh contrar i have a little tiny listen i've got the key of soul i've amazed tina with my ability to fit into spots that uh that normal cars would be able to fit into and uh the kia soul is the most for as boxy as it is it is the most maneuverable damn thing ever and i can like get into um like parallel parking Tina's like i basically like
Starting point is 00:15:19 we'll do a parallel park like that and he'll be like that was really good and i'm like everybody around to see this yeah and i'm a huge fan of tiny cars for that very reason i like the maneuverability i like to be able to get into tight spots you know yep i look like an idiot i come out of the car six foot three looking like a weirdo but still whatever like uh people like clown car is what they expect to see you kind of yeah it's just like you're too tall for that tiny car but i like it uh he says he goes on to finish he says for me personally i make sure i don't tie up traffic when I'm backing in. I also use my indicators to make sure people know what I'm doing. As usual, I love what y'all do. Much love from a very hot, hot Georgia, Lord Scuttlebutt.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Well, thank you, Lord Scuttlebutt, uh, aka Justin. We appreciate your, uh, thoughts. Yeah. Well, there you go. I love it. Uh, but nothing, nothing about your actress lady. We didn't get any of that. Nothing about my actress lady. No, that all came via DM, uh, Twitter, uh, uh, threads and, uh, discord. Yeah, just nobody, nobody else got in there. If any of you, really think I need a police sketch artist because, I mean, basically, if you just start with a picture of Wendy Malick, she's, she's, she's your baseline, you're, she's your baseline. You start with Wendy Malick and you add much darker, like, eyeliner eyes. Yeah, there's like a whole bunch of things. Maybe I need to do it. Maybe I just need to Photoshop. I'll start with Wendy Malick and I'll start photoshopping other things. And I will realize that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, Maybe it is an amalgamation of Wendy Malikin for the actress. I was going to say you could take all those women cut out their images, put them all, you know, try to get the same pose if you can. And then you put them all, this isn't creepy at all for you to be doing it home by yourself.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But anyway, put all those faces on your computer, start cutting away pieces that don't fit. Right. You might be left with what is the person. And then Jeannie's theory is either true or not, you know. Yeah. Jennifer Connolly definitely not September because I know her in anything. I'm currently watching her in something, and she's on my laminated card that I keep in my wallet. Boy Who cried, Woof says, I guarantee it's someone from an S&L sketch.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I'm very sure it's not because I'm, like, I can tell you everybody who's ever been on S&L because I love that show and I study it, even the, even the, and featuring, even those people. Yep. By the way, yesterday somebody sent a message that I just thought was hilarious. They said, and again, let me preface this by saying, I'm about to say is not even close to being a spoiler, so don't freaking worry or mute. It's not.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It's not a spoiler. It really isn't. He said, I'm about to see Furiosa. I 100% know what's going to happen to Chris Hemsworth's character. I can guess. And I wrote, there's no way you can guess this.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. No way. Brian, you've seen the movie. I don't care who you are or what you think you think you think is going to happen. You have no, you really literally have no idea. This is, in fact,
Starting point is 00:18:18 this is, enforces how not a spoiler this is because we could give you 250 guesses and you still wouldn't you'd never get it this is worse than the lottery you'll never win it that's right i promise you that i promise uh here's uh one quick clarification on tire pressure we're staying with cars for a minute uh that's what it says scott and brian the other day this jean from brooklyn new york oh yeah uh the other day you were talking about tire pressure on cars here's a fun fact on every u.s car If you look on the inside frame of the driver's door, it will tell you what the tire pressure should be front and back.
Starting point is 00:18:54 You may also go back to the regular scheduled program, Gene from Brooklyn. You may now go back to your... Or you may now, but, yeah. I knew that this was true, and we reference it here and there. The reason it came up, I don't remember why. It was because ours was going down in Vegas or something, and we had the hole or the two screws. Oh, maybe, and you needed to figure out what it was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah, so we knew it was going down. and what it should be, both from that number and also the indicator kept telling us. But, yeah, that was a whole thing. It doesn't hurt to, you know, reiterate this kind of stuff. A lot of people in the chat are saying, how do people not know this already? Listen, I watched an entire series of TikTok videos where millennials have their minds blown because they didn't know that when you flip down your little visor, your sun visor in your car, you could unhook it and extend it so you've got a lot of positions where you can,
Starting point is 00:19:49 Lacey where the, you know, block the sunlight. So you don't even have to keep it, you know, just on its regular axis. You can move it on to another axis. Well, I'm not going to pretend that I knew better because that was also a surprise to me when I learned that. I had no idea. Like how recently, though? Like in the last year. Oh, Scott.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I had no idea. Never knew those things pulled out. No, I've been, I mean, driving my entire life, I never knew those things pulled out. You never knew that little telescoping, oh, man, yeah. Yeah, all news to me. and now really change the way I block Sun in the car. It's like I'm assembling Optimus Prime in when I'm behind the wheel. It's like sun is over there.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I just always assumed it was just like the two positions down. Well, yeah, up, so three positions, up, down, or turned, but never extended. That was news to me. Had no idea. And then I thought, well, that'll be true in this Tesla that Wendy and I were in. my brother-in-law's Tesla and I go yanking on it they don't do it they don't extend
Starting point is 00:20:52 so turns pivots no pivot it doesn't extend no yeah that that annoyed me because now that I know this exists I want it to be everywhere and it wasn't in that car it doesn't create any extra like doesn't take away any extra space
Starting point is 00:21:09 in the sun visor make them all extend it's silly yeah it's like it's a tube and a tube is all it is no it's like finding out it's like when i found that out i was at first annoyed because i was like this is this always been true like when i was a kid would yeah would the cars do this probably my chivette like i remember every car starting with my Chevy chevette yes folks i drove a vet yeah always tell the girls when you're in high school that you drive a vet that's what i would tell them i said hey i want
Starting point is 00:21:38 to ride to luncheon my vet and they're like you have a corvette i said i have a shove it they said well shove it yeah shove it brian Chevrolet, shove it. The Chevrolet, the Chevy shove it. But, yeah, my Corolla had it. My Geotracker had it. My Volkswagen Beetle had it. And I think that's the last one I had before the soul was the beetle.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Lucky Phil says his X-Trail from Nissan. What the hell's an X-Trail? Is that Australian-only Nissan, probably? Because I don't think they're here. How are you supposed to go on trails if you can't block the sun? It is available in Japan and Europe and Australia. That's why it's not here. Oh, that's a cool-looking car.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Really? X-Trail. Yeah, Phil, you're driving around in this? Nissan X-Trail. Big old, look, you look like a soccer mom, dude. I mean, it's nothing fancy here, but. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. A little squash down, it looks like a little bit of a, it's got a little rogue to it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 A little bit of a Nissan rogue vibe. Yeah. Australian models went on sale 2014. Diesel variants and petrol, as you guys say. All right. Well, that's good stuff. Thank you, Ed Woodman. Nope, not Christine Baranski yet. I'd recognize Christine Branski's face anywhere because she's got a very, very unique look to her. 2024, the year that all Scott can think of is Furiosa and all we can think of in the chat room is this woman, Brian, is trying to find. Exactly. I'm looking forward to it. I remember her all the way back from Reversal of Fortune when she played Kloss von Bulow's new wife after he offed Glenn Close. Oh, my lord. I don't remember that. That was a thing.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, that was a thing. Like extended sun visors. I'm learning new things every day. Good. Excellent. All right. We're going to get done away in here. We're also going to bring one of you in now. One of you needs to be the third person to dial in on my Discord and PM me and say, hey, I want to play. today or whatever you want to say it doesn't matter what you say and i'm going to take the third person kind of like you know stories are told in the third person you play us you play the generations yeah you play assassin's creed in third person uh brian dunnaway talks to himself in the third
Starting point is 00:24:03 person just getting he doesn't really do that here's this we're where where where where where hey dunaway what are you doing you weirdo oh hi scott and brian Brian's glad to be here today. Is he? Well, that's good. Are you glad to be here? I'm talking about himself in the third person. Oh, I see what you.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I see what you did. Yeah, no, you do listen. You're always listening. Did you know, tell them, let's be honest, be totally honest with us here. How, when did you find out that Sunvisors pull out and not just flip? When did you know that? Are you talking about? Oh, see?
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm just kidding. So you're talking, are you talking about the, no, you're talking about the Sun, you're talking about the Sun, The sun visors in your car? In your car. You know how they can pull, they pull out, extend, like, way. Yeah, so like if you, like, if you rotate around this little hinge, right, exactly. And you knew that some, you knew that some pull out. Like a bad boyfriend, some of them don't pull out.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Right. Yeah, because nice, nice. No, I'm not a weirdo. I, uh, I knew that. You knew that. Okay. That's, it's fine. I just, I'm trying to figure out why I'm the only adult in any room that doesn't know about
Starting point is 00:25:10 this until this year. I cannot figure out. Did you know, you can pull the little head things out on a lot of cars, too? Like little headrest. things in the back. Oh, I did know that. Yeah, that I was aware of. Did you know that some cars if you hold down the
Starting point is 00:25:23 the unlocked button for an extended period of time, the windows let down? I did not know that. That's news to me. I had a Nissan unlocked button on your defab, right? Yeah, yeah. I had a Nissan ultimately did that. It discovered that accidentally one day. I was going out in my car and I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:38 bloop. Wow. I couldn't hear it and all of a sudden the windows let down. I was like, wait a minute. I didn't ask that feature. Someone showed me that they had there. This was back when you actually unlocked a car by sticking a key into the door handle. Well, hello. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:52 They showed me that if you put the key in the door handle and then turn it the opposite way, then you would normally turn it to unlock it, it would roll down all the windows in the car. Yeah, I had one that did that too. I think it was that a Volkswagen I had it did that. I can't remember. You know, what's important, Scott? I bet you every bit of that information we just discussed is in the owner's manual, which you've never looked at ever, not once.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Look, he reads it a manual. Yeah, name somebody who's actually popped that open and sat there and read the damn thing. Nobody. That's the answer. We'll see what kind of washer fluid goes to this. Other than maybe our Nissan X-Trail owner, Lucky Phil, who's now in the call. Hi, Lucky Phil. That's who it is.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Oh, how are you doing? I'm good. You? How are you? Oh, you're doing a right for 141 in the morning? Yeah. Oh, geez. I always forget what time it is there, you guys, with your times.
Starting point is 00:26:42 it's good to have you on this is perfect you're i'm thinking a lot about australia for this this week for various reasons you might be able to guess and i won't get into but uh it's good to have you here hey do you guys have maggot pits they're very mad and max you i believe do you guys have maggot pits over there where you can uh you heal up and you get you know your severed arm gets taken care of that sort of thing do you want me to let you know when you're when you're too far i wouldn't call that a i wouldn't call that a spoiler no no i'm not calling it a spoiler, but the I promise not to talk about it a lot from yesterday.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Oh, that, that, that, yeah. You know, you know what? Brian needs to hold up a hand or something when I've done it. But I do have, okay, I got one question for you, though. This is a real one. Chris Hemsworth in an interview promoting the film. Somebody said to him, were you excited about this? And he just gushed about how stoked he was.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And the reason he was stoked is he says this. He says, Britain has Harry Potter. The U.S. has Star Wars. we have Mad Max and that's that to us this is as big as any of those things are to the places they were born and everybody everywhere
Starting point is 00:27:47 always wants to have something to do with it do you think that's true like from your perspective from your little perch up up there in the northern wherever the hell you are what do you think of that yeah well in Sydney they don't have as much of a film industry
Starting point is 00:28:00 but in Queensland they do there's a whole bunch of movie studios Warner Brothers all that and yeah they've brought a lot of into the local economy sure but I mean like fandom wise do they do they get stoked the way that we do about Star Wars and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:28:17 you know what I mean like I think it's very hard to get as excited a bit entertainment stuff as Americans yeah that's probably true right attack here a little bit well don't worry done away we we are in a country
Starting point is 00:28:33 where people line up for a brand new crispy cream donut shop you're you're not wrong Wait, you know where a new Krispy Kreme Shop is? What time should I be there? If you hurry, you can get there, yeah. Yeah, they find, finally the, what's the chicken place that was huge for a while? Oh, canes. Cains, where they were wrapping around the block and stuff?
Starting point is 00:28:53 That's finally starting to chill. Finally. Yeah, from an outside looking at things, man like Americans, it's like you're either extreme one way or another. And it's like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of in the middle, guys. Let's settle down, calm down. Calm down. Be in the middle, like Lucky Phil over here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Well, let's find out of Phil's lucky today with this subject and context. It's already been lucky to talk to us. You won't feel lucky when you hear this topic. You guys already? It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Lucky Phil, your lucky job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package that includes Yakuza like a dragon. Oh, that's a good way. That's a name brand game. That's a big game. You know, I can eucca like a dragon.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Hi-Fi Rush is the other game. Oh, shit. Wow, those are both good. Dude, hi-Fi Rush is one of the best games of last year. Yeah. Top three. How did you get these top-tier games? These came from Wesley.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Thank you, Wesley, for sending these. Actually, he must have got a raise, huh. Jeez. That's fantastic. I mean, I'm taking these games back in keeping it for myself. You're getting a copy of Fashland. And I am fish. No, that's great.
Starting point is 00:30:18 These are very good, Phil, as you may know. So let's try to win. Actually, if I win a half-fire rush, that's great. If I win Lock a Dragon, I have that already, so that one can be reset. Oh, all right. Nice. In other words, it goes to me. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Excellent. I love hearing that. Let's get to our game. here. We asked 499. That's right. Wow, that's more than usual, right? It is. There are more people are discovering and filling out the survey, and so we're up to 499 people for this one anyway. We asked them to give their best answer to this. Put your hands on your buzzers and tell me what's your favorite old people first name? Scott.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Winston. Show me Winston. Shit. 10 answers on the board still. What's your favorite? Brian, what's your favorite old person name? I'm being cautious because I don't want to say anybody's an old person name.
Starting point is 00:31:18 They don't look like they're old, but I'm going to go with Betty. Oh, hi, Betty. Oh, hi, Betty. Betty. Oh, hi, Betty. Show me Betty. I had to look really quick again.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, man. No, Betty. No, Betty. So now we move on to Phil. That goes all the way back to the Stone. ages. Betty does, yeah. We'll say Betty
Starting point is 00:31:41 was on the list. Winston, one person said Winston. Betty had, so I guess here's what we'll do. Betty, you bet, Betty. If Betty actually was at least in the top, okay, yeah, Betty was number 47.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So if Phil's answer is lower than 47, then Brian, you're going to get control. That's the way we're going to do things. Phil, do you have a guess? um i don't know many young people called called harold oh that's a good one show me harold oh how do i do this
Starting point is 00:32:16 harold is number five oh you're on the board look at you you get to choose who you want to play with and they're they're going to get these first five points i think i'll go with old man johnson yeah he should he knows all he's got to do is just name his friends right his friends right exactly all right show me harold there you go five points for Scott and lucky Phil also for Scott. All right, Phil.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I like, I like the name Henry, but I don't know if that's old enough, you know? Like, it feels like it's popular again, so maybe it's not a great choice given who we're asking in the chat. I know a few Henrys, but then again, I'm in my 40s myself, so. Sure. Sure. I mean, we almost name.
Starting point is 00:33:02 The question is not shown at the top. What's the exact question phrasing? Sure. What's your favorite old people first name and old people in quotes like, what's your favorite old people first? Oh, yeah. It usually says up here. It doesn't say it today. Oh, it doesn't? No. That's weird. That is weird. We just got three dots. Got an ellipsy. Oh, I wonder if the quotation marks F things up. Oh, no. Maybe. Could be. Syntax. Yeah, broke things. So I'm, I lean Harold. So my mother-in-law's name is Francis, and I feel like nobody does that anymore. No offense to her. All right. though, offense in some other ways, but not in that way. So those are the two that jumped in my head. What do you think? What do you have?
Starting point is 00:33:43 With Francis, I think you're right, but it wouldn't be a popular answer. I don't know. How about Ebenezer? You're technically right, but I'm not sure if it would be in the public consciousness enough, you know? Yeah. No one names a kid Melvin anymore. That's true. Like Mel or Melvin.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Brian, let's go Melvin. We're doing Melvin. All right. Do Melvin. I'm screwed. Show me Melvin. Shit. Let's see, because I would have combined Mel and Melvin.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Mel. Mel. Mel. Next. No. Oh, yeah, there's Melvin number 67 in the list. Jeez, that's about the age Melvin would be. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It's about right. Yeah. All right. over to you, Brian. Maybe an old people's first name. I'm really thinking, I'm trying to imagine how many of these tadpoole feuders said, wouldn't
Starting point is 00:34:45 it be funny if we said Scott? Uh-huh. Why? Why? All right. Fine. Show me Scott.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Oh, that is some bullshit. You know the tadpool. Six points. That's just the Tedpool being a bunch of dicks. Yeah, man. You mean, tadpool being in this natural state, whatever. Lame.
Starting point is 00:35:07 That would never happen, yeah? I mean, to be fair, they did say it was their favorite. Yeah, they did say it was your favorite. Oh, that's right. That's true, yeah. Pick the one. Well, I can't burn myself, so I'm not going to go for that. So I'm going to go with, I'm going to have to go with Alfred.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Alfred. Sure, yeah. This is a smart move. You're doing, you're doing things that are referential to other topics. This is a good idea, yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right, show me, Alfred. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Oh, that felt good. I've double-checked because I'm trying to be really good about shortings and nicknames and things like that for the names you choose. So you didn't go Betty White or Alfred from Batman. Two great old names. Yeah, exactly. 45, number 45 is Alfred in the list. All right. So on the core, a very popular segment is when John does a Dear Martha letter.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh, that's good. And it feels like that inherently might come up because people listen to that show. That's my mom's name too. Is it? Martha Dunaway? Oh, shut up. I get it now. I get it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Why did you say that name, Brian Dunaway? What was the origination of that joke, that core joke, the dear Martha? Do you remember what it was? I don't know. What was it? Oh, it was me here on TMS. oh snap wait a minute you started doing
Starting point is 00:36:38 when did you do those I don't remember that when was this before because you even you're like hey John's doing your Martha thing on core oh my gosh I've forgotten all about that all about it well anyway he I don't know it's fine because he does it far far
Starting point is 00:36:52 far better he does he does a real good job he does it very well let's say let's say Martha and see how we do it say Martha absolutely show me Martha oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:37:04 Number four. Four more points that bring you guys up to nine. Scott and Phil at nine. Brian at six. Nine six. Okay. So now we know where their heads are at. We've got to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Oh, gosh. What would they put Brian on here as just a double-up joke? That's not funny. Get both hosts. Do you know what I mean, though? like they're trying to be funny even if they're not and they're saying, oh, Brian and Scott are both on here. What? The tadpool trying to be funny. Come on now. You're kidding, right?
Starting point is 00:37:40 I feel like there's a decent chance. You know what? Well, Phil, what do you think? I've never met a young person called Frank. It's a good point. I don't know any Franks either. As a matter of fact, old man Frank. That makes sense. Old man Franks. It's right there. Oh, that's not bad actually. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do Frank. Frank Franklin.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Show me Frank That's good Number nine was a type of Frank That is funny I was going to say Harold and Maud I was going to say that earlier That's great Frank and Maud
Starting point is 00:38:13 My favorite harm movie So my nephew is named He has an old man name His name is Abraham I call him Abe Oh can you sing the song Is there a song? What song? Tell me what song
Starting point is 00:38:27 I still don't know what that is See my old friend Abraham Has he gone away? I don't know that one either. Abraham, Martin, and John? You nailed it. Yeah, got it. Let's try that one.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Abraham. Let's see what we get. Show me, Abraham. Damn it. Abraham or Abe made it to number 44 in the list. Lowered number to guest. All right, Dunaway. What do you got, man?
Starting point is 00:38:57 How about Charles? I know it stings a little bit, people, but that name's been around for a while. That's right. Not a baton. Don't listen, Chuck. That's right. Show me Charles, Charlie, or Chuck.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Amazingly, number 33 was all those different versions of Charles. I know a lot of little kids named Charlie. It's still a popular thing. Charlie, well, but Charlie's cute. How many Charleses do you know? Somebody walks around and goes, hello, Charles. other than in charge, you don't know of any. All right, you guys each have one strike left
Starting point is 00:39:38 to put this miserable, miserable game out of its misery. What is the... I just can't think of anything that's like referential enough now. Now we're just left with old people names. That's what was it before. How about... Queen Anne.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I mean, there's old, like, I can't think of anything. That's probably the old. That's probably the old getting you. My grandma's name was, my grandma's name was Dolores. That's very rare now. That is.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Has Albert been mentioned? Albert? Did Seinfeld bring it back to popularity? Oh, good point. Dolores. Albert's not bad. You should try Albert. No, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:40:31 I feel like you shouldn't want us to do that. You know what? Let's get Albert out of the shit. Let's do Albert. You think he's in the can? Yeah, it might be in there. Let's do it. Albert.
Starting point is 00:40:45 All right. Show me. Show me Albert. Just checking on something. Okay, show me Albert. Damn it. I was about to say. They didn't have Alfred.
Starting point is 00:40:56 They're not going to have Albert. Yeah. Albert, let's see, where is it here? Albert, I'm sure somebody said it. It wouldn't be 11, would it? 74, no, that was, that's actually what I double-checked is to see if it was number 11, just in case. Yeah, Albert tied for 74th with one person suggesting it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Surprised it's so, oh, geez. Yeah, yeah, I am too. All right, Brian. There's got to be some we're not thinking of. How about? Well, there are. How about old Ben Kenobi? Ben?
Starting point is 00:41:29 Ben or Benjamin? Old Ben. You want it to be actual Old Ben Kenobi. That's what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The full name is what you think. All the full name.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Sounds like a tadpole thing to say. Yeah. I haven't heard that name, but no. Well, you have four minutes to do it, but whatever. You take your time. I have four minutes. That's all any of us have. I'll just sit back.
Starting point is 00:41:55 How about, um, oh my gosh I'm just there's so many freaking old people names I'm just going through like Irene was a grandparent I had one of those Alice Alice has been around forever Alice now I love the name Alice that stuff's coming back there's a lot of old people
Starting point is 00:42:10 names coming back right now kids kids are popping right now so they're coming back how about Aloysius is that on there okay I'm taking that as your guest because you're running out of time what are you giving you five seconds
Starting point is 00:42:25 to actually come over the answer Brian Let's do it. Fine. Alloicious. Alloicious. Alloicious. Okay. Show me alloicious.
Starting point is 00:42:36 No, but surprisingly, aloecious did pretty well. Let's see. A-L-O. Gazintot. Number 29. So actually higher than some of those other names that you mentioned. Let's get to the answers here. Show me number one on the board.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Gertrude. Makes sense, yeah. All right. I don't think that one's coming back, by the way. There's no new Goode. No, no. Maybe Trudy, maybe as a Trudy. Oh, Trudy's cute.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah. Ethel. Oh, shit, Ethel's good. I think actually, Amy Robinson actually named most of these in chat, by the way. Oh, really? How's her leg doing? Still sore and she's in a boot, and Chuck is taking good care of her.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Oh, good. That's good. Old man, Chuck. Show me number three. Mildred. Oh, come on. I probably said Mildred. No, nobody said Mildred.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I think we may have bounced it. You guys, I think, did bounce it. Number seven. Agnes, it was a tie for Agnes, Margaret, and Walter. Decided on these last four that I would just love ties in. Yeah, Agnes, I think. They were like all Walton. They sound like Walton kids or something from the Walton.
Starting point is 00:43:53 They do. Yeah. Agnes, Margaret, Walter, it's time to go. A little house on the prairie. It's Agnes, Margaret, and Walter. You guys did bounce this one around. Number eight, Henry or Henry, Richard or Dick and Ruth. We should have done Dick.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Dick Ruth. Yeah. Should have done Dick. After Lucky Phil called everyone Dicks, we should have done Dick. That's right. It's just the chat group or the tadful being Dix. Finally, number 10, Barbara, Gerald, or Jebediah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Look how many of these died. You know what I'm shocked about? Brian, I'm shocked. There's no Karen on here. I thought there would be. Just because, you know. On the list. By the way, Brian, you and I, we're down to 32.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Scott in the top 10. Brian, all the way down. Yeah. 11 was Agatha. Then you had Archibald, Elmer, Eugene, Eunice, Herbert. Jonas. Horace. Bernard.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Bertha. Bertha. Clarence, Edith, Edna, Eleanor, Evelyn, Gladys, Mabel, Ralph, Ralph, Amelia, Chester, there's Dolores down there at number 35, Estelle, Lawrence, Matilda, Myrtle. How did Myrtle not get higher? Yeah, Mertrhus. Beatrice. Cecil.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Scott, you mentioned Ebenezer. That was down at 52. Ezekiel? I mean, that's pretty dang old. Hesquil. Geraldine, yeah. Helen, Hiram, Homer, Janice, Karen down at 66, Mortimer, Ophelia. Yeah. Wow. Vern or Verna, down at 73.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And it was some great names there. That's great. Love it. Well, well done, everybody. And also, well done, lucky Phil. Even though we all zeroed out, you still won. You got your prize. And you're going to be stoked because that game, Hi-Fi Rush is freaking rad.
Starting point is 00:45:52 It's very good. Amazing game. Love it. you should play the hell out of that and then we'll give uh you know we'll hold over the uh yakuza for another winner thanks thanks thanks man yeah i really will hold it over for somebody else i won't give it i won't give it i won't give it will show show show show you get uh oops you get a uh grand mufflery there you go there you go give our best oh thank you but give our best to um i don't know dingoes or whatever it is you do there bye all right nothing better than being insulted as you're being
Starting point is 00:46:22 hung up on it. Exactly. Speaking of insults, you and I are going to get together this weekend, Brian Dunaway, and we're going to watch, or we're going to get together and talk about an old video game. Tell the folks what we're doing on Play Retro this Friday. Well, this week, in honor of Burger Day this week, we're playing some Burger Time, originally known as Burger in Japan, but we decided, no, hamburger in Japan, that's what it was. And so, yeah, but they thought maybe that was like copyrightedly. It said, how about Burger Time? It was like, sure, why not? They just called it hamburger? That's boring. I would have been a better name, I think. No, I like Burger Time pretty good. And yesterday was Hamburger Day, so it's very appropriate that you guys are doing that this week. I don't know who he was making hamburgers for, but walking over those platforms and making those giant burgers while running from Wieners and eggs over easy. And eggs over easy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And like pepper on things. So how is it a bad thing to put pepper on eggs? Why do the eggs not like it when you pepper them? Oh, I don't know. They don't not like it. They just freeze for a second. and they're like, who, who, who. I don't know, they treat them like,
Starting point is 00:47:23 they act like it's like salt on snails or something. It's weird. Yeah, they really freak out. Yeah, love that, love that game, though. So we're going to talk about it. It's origins, its impact, and whether or not it's worth playing today, find out Friday at 130 Mountain Time
Starting point is 00:47:37 at frogpants.tv or at the podcast afterwards. Brian Dunaway, would you like to kiss our butts? I already said, no, you. All right. All right, we're going to take, my screen's going to take a dump. Here we go. We're going to take a break and play a song.
Starting point is 00:47:55 When we come back, Tom Merritt will join us. We have recommendals and more. Stick around. Brian, take it away. What do you got? Yeah, we're going with a band called Aqua Surge. Aquacurge. Maybe just Aqua Surge.
Starting point is 00:48:07 A-Q-U-A-S-E-R-G-E. This is great. They have a brand new album that just came out Friday called The Fin Del Economy. They previously collaborated with Stereo Lab, Tame and Paula. I mean, these guys are,
Starting point is 00:48:19 These guys were legit. They're very cool. And this song is very cool as well. This song is called Les So de Tigre. It is the brand new single from Le Fin de la Economie by Aqua Sarge. Oh, my gosh. Butchered all of that for your enjoyment. I surely did.
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Starting point is 00:52:09 That was, sure, there was Aqua Surge from the brand new album, La Fin de l'Economy, a song called, what is it again? It is Les So do Tigray. That all sounds somehow correct, somehow. I don't know. Yeah, for sure. All right, let's get, let's have a little merit here on the show. Sure. I think that would be good.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's always good to talk about it. tech and what's happening in that part of the world. Show was without merit. Yep. Now it will be with Merritt. We want Tom. He is here to talk about technology news because that's what he does. He comes here on Wednesdays.
Starting point is 00:52:42 We talk about what's brewing in the tech world so that he can make a daily tech news show later all about it. Tom Merritt, welcome back to the show. Oh, he's muted. I don't hear him. Muted, Tom. Muted. There is. Now I hear him.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I hear him now. Hi, Tom, Merritt. How are you? Hi, Scott. Hi, Brian. How are you? Hi. We are good. How are you? How are you? I am also not a robot. Oh, good. I'm good. I'm good. You know, I kind of want to talk about this big Google search document leak, but I don't have all the information yet. I never stopped Scott and I before. The quick version is that an apparent leak of thousands of documents that appear to come from, an internal Google API
Starting point is 00:53:34 were released on GitHub, shared by Spark Toro co-founder Rand Fishkin, and they give a glimpse into how Google's algorithm may work. Some people on one end of the reaction spectrum to this are incensed because it seems to show that Google lied about how its algorithms work. There are other people on another end of the spectrum saying, hold on, these documents are five years old.
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Starting point is 00:55:19 The documentation is being poured over by every search engine optimizer in the world, of course. But yeah, search engine land has probably the best. article so far on it and and they're sort of not making a moral judgment on it just saying here's what appears to be in the documents uh but but yeah this is going to cause a big stir in in search engine ranking and search engine optimizer yeah yeah now you learn how to cheat basically or how to well or do you it's kind of five years old at this point and that the reaction seems to be more like they told us it worked this way and it doesn't I'm mad uh you know So I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I'm not sure if I had to guess, and I'm just guessing, this is a tempest in a teapot. Things probably have changed so dramatically in five years that, yeah, the rules don't apply. This ends up not being as bad as some people think and not being useful at all. Well, it wouldn't it be useful if it was today and not five years ago because they'll just pivot and change and tweak it. It's not like suddenly everyone has a new secret that they, they can now exploit because it's permanent, they'll just change it. Especially because it's older documentation, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, you're right. I think I agree with you, but it's still sort of interesting. My favorite headline is Google's precious search recipe exposed in a huge league. I like they call it a recipe. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. No, one of the things of the documents is it's two parts coriander.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Wow, more than I thought. Scandal. A lot of, a lot of people don't like Coriander. They may use more or less coriander now. we have no idea. So do you think, I mean, the fallout is what, if you had to guess? It just they don't like leaks, obviously. Nobody wants to have their trade secrets out there. But it just, what, quietly kind of goes away and they don't really address it? I'm sure Google probably doesn't have much, but what would they even say? What are they going to tell us?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Nothing. I, yeah, I don't know. I have, Google hasn't spoken on it yet. So I'll be curious to see what their reaction is when they actually make a statement about it. You know, do they deny that these are valid documents? You know, do they say what the line is from some of the more, you know, conservative reactions to this, which is, you know, this is not what you think it is. This is about a different API and it's old and out of date. That's kind of where I guess they'll just show up, you know, or do they, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'll be curious how they respond. In the end, to answer your question, I don't think it impacts our lives much at all. Maybe a couple of SEO folks out there get a little insight and learn a couple of
Starting point is 00:58:07 tricks, maybe at best. But in the end, I think this just all blows over and everybody forgets about it. Yeah, probably. And then they hope they never do it again. When I first saw it, I went, oh, is this like a data leak? Like everybody's Google credentials, you know, somehow unencrypted password. You know, I didn't know what this meant. Yeah, it's nothing to do with that. This is all about ranking websites. Sure. It's a pretty good leak, really, when you, when you, all things considered, this is one of the better leaks we've had in a long time.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Yeah, if you're going to have a leak, have it be this leak. This isn't too bad, you know? It's much better than saying, you know, 8 million Android users were exposed or something weird like that. Right, right. Here's what I think I may have found as the key factor here. The documents seem to say that links matter, page rank. the old way of ranking links is alive and page rank for a website's homepage is considered for every
Starting point is 00:59:03 document. That's what a lot of people are saying. Google lied. Google said that links are not a top three ranking factor and that links matter less for ranking. And search engine land says two things can be true at once. This doesn't prove Google spokespeople have lied about links not being a top three ranking factor or links mattering less for ranking. We don't know how any of these features are weighted. So yeah, the fact that page rank is still considered could mean it's still not a top three. It could be number four or number five. Sure. Well, we'll see what they say about it or whatever. I feel like, you know, every company's got their trade secret, especially in tech. And they're not going to tell you how they do stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:53 They're not going to be 100% publicly accurate when they talk about how their search engine works. Why would they? They don't want, you know, it's very competitive space and they want to stay on top and why would they? So I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying this is business.
Starting point is 01:00:09 So I guess get used to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great lesson in people really are looking to find out things that verify their previous beliefs. In this case, a lot of people think Google is unfair to them in the SEO space. And so as soon as they saw these documents, they're like, aha, see, they've been unfair. And a lot of other people are saying, well, hold on it.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I don't know that it really says that. Yeah, and the only way to find out, see, this is an interesting point, because fairness in search engines is a weird idea because the people who are trying to capitalize on or game it or get it to work in their best interests so that their sites are shown first they have a very specific motive in this there's no world where it's as fair as they want it to be quote unquote fair what they really want is like well i want to know exactly how it works so that i can cap so i can just use it the way i want to well google's never going to do that like if they did that then people would then the whole system's ruined because everything is gained the system is gained so i don't know
Starting point is 01:01:17 what they expect that seems like a weird thing to it they've been unfair no they haven't They've kept you from gaming systems. I think what it would be reasonable to expect is, like, I just want to know what the rules are so that I can, you know, know, if I'm not at the top of search results, why that is, right? I think that's reasonable without giving me the secret sauce that people can then game, you know, explain to me what the important things are to make a good website. And, you know, I don't know that there's anything in here that makes it look like, ah, Google was secretly doing an entirely. different thing while they were telling folks like oh no it's all about this yeah well it's interesting to say the least we'll talk about that more today on the daily tech news show along with a few other things um you know this you know archive got a has been dosed for like the last week or something
Starting point is 01:02:06 yeah um that's been a problem for me because i've got a whole bunch of old shows up there that where people can access just ancient archives like current geek is up there a whole bunch of the older ones oh yeah and um bunch old d tnss are up there yeah and so people have been writing me going hey i can't get the old archives and I'm like I think it's not I think it's being attacked it's not me you have that many people uh you know going after your old archives it surprises me and it only comes up I only ever get questions when something's down so I should I should probably be more forward thinking on that and like make it more I don't know I'm always surprised by it's like I'm trying to get the final score from 2011 to download and I'm like what oh okay you still want that here you go I'll give you
Starting point is 01:02:46 another link. Anyway. Who besides publishers would go after Internet Archive? Like, the only people that don't like Internet Archive are, like, book publishers and record labels and, you know, folks who are in opposition to their wide interpretation of fair use. So I'm not saying the publishers are doing the DDoS. I'm saying, like, I don't know who would do a DDoS against the Archives.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's very weird. It's a strange target, but I don't know. Sometimes people just want to watch the world burn. We learn that from Alfred, also a very old person's name. Well, there you go. Tom, we're going to hang out later today doing all this. Tell me what else is happening that you'd like people to know about. Yeah, I'll be writing up what I do find. I'm about to dig into the search engine stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And if I find out more, the first place you'll see it is in my newsletter, freetech newsletter.com. Today's issue, the Wednesday issues, are always for the paid subscribers, but free tech newsletter comes every Thursday. So you'll get access to something that I write every Thursday if you sign up. And for like less than a couple of cents a day, you can get it Monday through Friday. So go check that out at free tech newsletter.com. Nice.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I really enjoyed your, let's see what day was it, the 24th. You did one. Your title was all your AI fears are belong to us. I really enjoyed that one. That was great. Thank you. Thank you. I'm glad you appreciated that headline.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I was entertaining myself with it as well. And also not much of a coffee drinker, but you put a photo in there that made me want to become a coffee drinker. Oh, that place is great. It's an Eagle Rock. And it was one of those places like, okay, it's real fancy. I'm sure their coffee's good. And then you taste it, and you're like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah, it was incredible. That looks amazing. Like I say, I don't even drink. it, but I want that. Well, Tom Merritt, thanks for hanging with us. You find him where you love him, wherever you may find Tom Merritt's, he's there. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Bye. All right. Oh, cool. That's weird. There we go. Discord being funky. Let's get in the... What do we...
Starting point is 01:04:59 Oh, yeah, recommendals. You know how we do. Yeah, I know how this works. Yeah, you've been here before. You know what's up. Let's get Randy, Nicole. That's really it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:11 End of list. End of list. Yeah. It sounded like I was really going to go on and just talk about more and more people. But really, that's it. Let's see what they're up to. Well, what do you recommend? Ah, yes, it's time for recommendals.
Starting point is 01:05:24 That's things we've seen on streaming that we think you guys might enjoy and joining us already. We have Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy. Good morning, morning stream. I am back from my exciting moment of watching ads while you talk to Tom. Oh, goodness gracious. I'm just so, so glad that we can advertise for money to go to Jeff Bezos. I mean, that's really what we're doing here.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah. And whatever you guys were talking about, I learned all about Sargento cheese and T-Mobile and Niroko Razors. Excellent. This is why I recommend to people in my life the YouTube premium because, man, it's the one subscription I don't think I'm willing to let go of. That's how much I appreciate it now. It's not just ads. It's other stuff too, but never get ads over here. It's great.
Starting point is 01:06:11 It is, it makes such a difference. I'm so with you. And if Twitch had an option like that, I'd probably do it. It'd be interesting. If Twitch had an option like that that you could sell to your subscribers, I don't know what I'm, I don't know where I'm going with that. I don't either, but I like your, where your head's at. I like it. Yeah, I just don't love, I just don't love Jeff Bezos getting richer.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I'm tired of it. Yeah, he's got enough money. Stop, Jeff Bezos. Let's not stop Nicole Spagg, though. Hi, Nicole Spaggnollo. How are you? Hi, can you hear me okay? We sure can.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Are you in a car? It sounds like a car. I am in a car. Mateo's with me. Mateo, do you want to say hi? He's such a goofball. Dude, you're a cool kid now. I feel like you grew up and now we don't see you anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:57 So we need to come out to Missouri and see how much you've grown. Or we should go back to Utah, right? That would be nice. Yeah, come on down. I have a question for Mateo. Mateo, do you have any interest in going to Disneyland again soon? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Good. I'm so glad to hear that. Probably always does. I do too if it makes any difference. If we're taking a poll. We're all going to Disneyland. Yeah, okay. I mean, it's the crappy, I mean, the happiest place on earth.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Let's go. Let's get in there. Well, it's good to have you all here. We're going to get into our recommendals, and we're going to start with Brian. today. And Brian, why don't you set up this clip and tell us what we're in for here? This is a movie that when it came out last year, I put it on my list to get notified as soon as it was available on one of my streaming services. And it recently was added to Amazon Prime. And so here you go, Jeff Bezos. Here's some money for it. And I'm glad it was, and I enjoyed it
Starting point is 01:07:57 tremendously. And you're going to hear a couple people in a diner talking about time travel. Nice. Here we go. Are you changing like the fabric of reality or whatever just by like existing? No, of course not. You kill some butterfly in the world ends, yeah? There's a thing like that, Jurassic Park and shit. I don't know, I haven't been there. Or is it like with every small decision you create a whole new reality,
Starting point is 01:08:22 like a multiverse with an infinite number of timelines? No, that's ridiculous. There's only one timeline and one reality. This is it. It's not really a fabric. It's more of a mushy blob. Mushy blob of reality. Imagine that. So some little differences can happen, but the mushy blob of reality just kind of congeals over the changes. And then time keeps on rocking. Wait, what time is it? It is 2.13 in the morning. Oh, that's perfect. Right, look outside. Now remember the word balls. Okay, you're looking. Here we go. Three, two, one.
Starting point is 01:09:04 oh come on okay i might have been a bit ambitious with the old countdown there forget the countdown it's definitely going to happen any moment now i'll try the countdown again three no i'm not going to bother with it actually but it's definitely going to any any moment now a band meeting that is that is that is a reese darby there as uh as time travel casper uh time traveler casper in a movie called relax i'm from the future this is a uh sci-fi comedy film um directed by luke higginson actually directed by him and based on a short film that he created in 2013 he just expanded on it and got in some big name actors um to play the roles but basically uh casper's a time traveler comes back to uh the 2020s and really we're not exactly sure why he came back he says he's got a reason
Starting point is 01:10:04 but we're not exactly sure why he came back. It's a comedy. It really, like basically he makes every time traveler mistake that you can make. He tells somebody that he's a time traveler. He interacts with things that maybe he shouldn't interact with. He uses sports betting to his advantage. Like basically, he blows all the rules. And I love that.
Starting point is 01:10:31 it's um it's really really funny it's got a really cute uh style to it he meets this woman named holly played by gabriel graham and she was uh in the expanse um something called 21 thunder on netflix uh she's been in um her her list is uh general asked if she's a canadian actress nobody else really in this thing that you would recognize um but uh that's okay because a Chris Darby is so good at this. He carries every scene that he's in and makes the whole thing a lot of fun. This actually got the third best Canadian movie prize at the Fantasia Film Festival in 2022. Oh, that's how you know it's good.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. Yep. Third best Canadian film. Kind of like the best New Zealand folk rock duo. Yeah. I was going to say that has a real Concord or apply to the Concord vibe. It really does. Yeah, this has that level of, level of humor.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Again, it's called Relax. I'm from the future. It is on Amazon Prime. And you'll have a great time watching this. And it's a Restarby showcase, yeah. That's what you want. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah. Did you watch the flag? The flag. The flag. Did you see the flag? The death of the flag. Keep going. Keep going.
Starting point is 01:12:01 The death of the flag. Our flag, it's our flag means death, is the one you're looking for. Our flag means death, yeah. I didn't, I still haven't seen it, but when it got canceled, I got all sour and said, well, why should I start this if they canceled it early? Because it's funny. I watched the first season and it was okay. Yeah, I watched the first episode, and it didn't grab me.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And I love Reese Darby, and I love Coder. Take it with T-D. Yeah. Please, please watch it, Scott. Watch it for. Christian and Aaron. Do it for Christian. I'll do it for Christian. I mean, look, I, everything in that is supposed to be my jam. And I would, I wanted to see it. I just thought, well, I'll catch up on all this. And then they announced, oh, it's getting killed early. And I went, this happens with everything that gets killed. I just get annoyed. And I'm like, well, why am I going to invest in your freaking thing? Why should I even start if it got canceled? You know why? Because now you have a finite number of episodes to watch. Yeah, good point. Does it end well? Like, does it end in a place where I'm going to be satisfied or? I think it did. I think it did. I think it did. And because it's a, it's kind of like a show in a bottle, right? Like when you, when you have, there's some concepts that don't need to go on forever, right?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Because in order to make more episodes, they'd have to change what the story's about, you know? Yeah. Like they tell a good joke and they tell it enough times. Right, right. I get it. I will definitely want to see this movie, Brian. It sounds great. I didn't even, I don't know how I missed.
Starting point is 01:13:24 It's not even on my radar. I wouldn't have even known about this if I hadn't seen it in a trailer for something else that we watched. And immediately wrote it down as like, okay, that looks hilarious. We need to watch it. And it's, oh, Domo says it's also on freebie. Yeah, it was, I don't know how else I would have found out about this thing if it weren't for a trailer. Because I haven't seen anything else about it. But, God, the stuff that happens right after the clip I played is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And it's just a really, really fun movie. Yeah. Once again, relax. from the future on Prime and apparently on FreeVee. That sounds good. Well, Freevi and Prime are the same now, right? Aren't they the same? Don't they own Freezy?
Starting point is 01:14:09 No. Freevi is that the rebranded IMDB? Yeah, but Amazon owns all that. So I think they're... Yeah, it's like a Venn diagram where Amazon has almost the entire circle of Freevi inside it. Is that the deal? Yeah, because sometimes I'll see a thing, it'll say... I'll see stuff on Prime.
Starting point is 01:14:29 It'll say, hey, this is all... this is on prime, and I'm like, sweet, I'll go watching on prime, and I'll get there, and it's actually just taking me to freebie. So I think there's, for those people who don't pay for Amazon Prime, freebie will still allow them to watch it with ads, right? Correct. Yeah, yeah, still ad. It's an ad-supported thing, but yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Actually, I kind of like freebie. Freevi's all right. I like Tobe, I like Freevi. I like Pluto. They're all cool. It is kind of funny how if you go to any Bezos site, you get directed over to Amazon somehow. Oh, yeah, no. MDB is covered in links to Amazon.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah, they want you to buy batteries and, you know, cloths or whatever you do. Whatever you're doing on, whatever it is you're up to on Amazon. They want you over there. And I will just say it one more time because it needs to be said, but there was a TV show. Speaking of Freebie, there's a television show called Sprung about, it's from Garcia, the guy who did Earl. My name is Earl and. Oh, that whole string of things.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Hope, all those things. It's stars Dilla Hunt, Garrett Dillahunt, and it's fantastic. It's on Freevy. It's called Sprung, and I can't believe more people have not watched it and loved it because Was that a recommendal? That was a recommendal. That was not only a recommendal, but that was at the top of my list for end of year favorite recommendals.
Starting point is 01:15:50 I don't even remember you recommending this. I kind of did. It might have been before you came back with us. Oh. Yeah. I have a memory of this. Yeah, that's what I was going for a while. Yeah, but sprung on Freevy.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Get it. Frigant. Uh, Garrett Dilland. I mean, there's the Kate Walsh. Kate Walsh is in there. Favorite actress Kate Walsh. Brian, maybe she was in your dream. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Fred freaking Grandi. What? Uh, gopher. Gofer. Fred Grandi. Fred Grandi. Sign me up. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Love Both own gopher. Oh, man. That's fantastic. Chris Bauer, who you know from everything. Anyway, that's sprung, but really I'm recommending relax up from the future. Yeah, both good choices, both on freebie. Go check him out. All right, let's swing on over to Nicole.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Nicole, let's set up your clip as well. What do you have here? I have a show that I absolutely love. It is on Apple TV, Apple Plus, wherever the hell you have. Yeah, flag, death, death flag, something like that. I came across this. Our Apple TV is Bids Plus. Is it a flag death?
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah. I hope Mateo's laughing at all this. Sorry, we're lagging a little bit and we're getting it late. My bad. No, you go ahead. We were driving to the shop. So I came across this. I think it was an article on Facebook maybe that was like talking about the show and
Starting point is 01:17:25 talking about the twist and that is what because i was like oh i like that guy and okay i'm up for a show that has a twist at the end i wonder what the twist is i haven't gotten to the twist it's eight episodes i'm on seven and a half and holy crap as it gotten good and here's the thing once i get to the twist i don't know what the twist is but it's it's good and you guys love it no matter what the twist ends up being right now you are satisfied with what you've gotten so far yes it's such a good show it's very do you remember that video game that came out what was it neo noir what the hell was it um la la la noir la noir la noir la noir la noire what the hell uh see but yeah la no war it gives me those vibes so go nice all right some sweet detective business let's
Starting point is 01:18:19 check it out would you mind guns make me nervous What are you doing here, man? I've been hired by your grandfather to look into the disappearance of your sister. If you want to call him or as attorney, Mr. Kinsey, they'll confirm what I just said. That's right. I believe you. Good, so now we can get back to our initial exchange. Our what? Well, I told you why I'm here, but you still haven't told me what you're doing here.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Oh, my dad told me to come here. Really? I'm supposed to come here every day to see if Olivia's back. Where'd you get the keys? My dad. Bernie has a set of keys to the condo that Jonathan bought your sister. Half sister, but yeah. Why didn't you just ring or knock on the door? What?
Starting point is 01:19:08 All right. I cannot wait to see this show. Same here. I'll watch Colin Farrell eat a sandwich. I love his stuff. You know? Man. So the show is called Sugar.
Starting point is 01:19:19 That Colin Farrell plays John Sugar, who is a, a PI. But he's something more. Haven't figured that out yet. But holy crap. I love the stylized way they tell this story. They bring in like old movie clips. And the intro to the show is very artsy, artsy, cool. Like Colin Farrell to me, I've never really been a big Colin Farrell fan. He kind of looks gross. most of the time but maybe is the penguin I don't know
Starting point is 01:19:58 holy crap I'm a Colin Farrell fan now for this show he's an executive producer of this show too yeah
Starting point is 01:20:08 it's James Cromwell is in it as well oh that'll do pig that'll do farmer pig babe pig man that'll do penguin
Starting point is 01:20:18 that'll do yeah so he so he plays a very successful director in LA and you're getting a view I feel like there's scenes where the actors are talking it's like it I don't know it's kind of a inside of the shittiness of being an actor in LA yeah um it's so good it's just so good and the whole point of the show is Colin Farrell's character, Sugar, is hired to find Jane Cromwell's granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And so that exchange that you were listening to, he went to her apartment and her half-brother showed up there with his bodyguard and all that. And so you're getting these very complex layered characters. And they did such an amazing job in eight episodes. And they're only like 30 minutes for each episode. Honestly, if I didn't have kids, I would have binged it in one night. Yeah. But I'm having to like dole it out every night and I kind of sneak an episode in. But holy moly, it's a good show.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I can't wait. You know, low key Apple TV has yet to make anything objectively bad. I don't know what they got going on over there, money I guess. But it's crazy how good everything is. So far, love being able to just say, all right, let's watch that and have it be good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, things are to different tastes, obviously.
Starting point is 01:21:45 But I've yet to see something over there where I walked away going, well, that wasn't very good. like that just doesn't happen to their credit so good yeah just just to let you know though there's um some trigger warnings in the show self-harm and that's further on in the episode but there's something weird mysterious going on with sugar and like his backstory and i still on episode seven i don't know what it is but he has this relationship with um this one woman Amy Ryan, I don't, I recognize her face, but I didn't. From the office. Hey, Brian, is it Amy Ryan?
Starting point is 01:22:26 It's not Amy Ryan. It's not Amy Ryan. Amy, the woman in my dream is a brunette. Okay, all right. No, that's good. That's good. I just want to make sure we're good. I love Amy Ryan.
Starting point is 01:22:34 She's fantastic. So his character has a really interesting relationship with her. Oh, she's so good. Like, it shows the complexity of people. Like, Colin Farrell has this. And as sugar, you know, there's something about him that you're like, what is it about him? And she's talking to her girlfriend. And she's like, is he cute?
Starting point is 01:22:58 And she's like, yes and no. Like, it's like this weird thing. He's kind of gross. Yeah. I think, I think, what is it you think? Maybe I need a woman's perspective. What is it about Colin Farrell that usually makes you like you look at him and just think he's gross? He just looks like he smokes.
Starting point is 01:23:19 a lot. I love it. That's amazing. That's a really specific complaint. I like that. Yeah, I like that too. I look like he smokes a lot. I mean, I really, I love, his diversity of roles is always really interesting to me,
Starting point is 01:23:32 but this one where he's, I mean, he played, he had an American accent in that second season of, of, True Detective, which I, he was a really strong part of that season. I thought his role was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, Rainbow Bright agrees with you 100%, Nicole. I totally agree on that he that he looks like he sucks a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Oh, you'll fall in love with him in this role, though. Yeah. Did you ever see in Bruges? Oh, that movie. What? In Bruges. It looks like it's in Bruges. It looks like it's in Bruges.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah. It's pronounced in Bruges. It's him and, um, Donald Gleason. No, his dad. No. Oh, Donald's the son. Brendan. Brendan Gleason, yes.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah. I don't think so. Oh, that'll turn you around on. Well, if this hadn't have turned you around on, Colin, that movie totally. It's such a good movie, dude. Oh, I could watch that. In Bruges? Yeah, I try to,
Starting point is 01:24:31 whenever that streams, I try to just make sure I get a watchin. I just love that movie so much. It's so good. It's the same guy that, it's the same dude that directed seven psychopaths with him and also directed the Inneshiren thing, the Banshees of Inisharon. Right. Yeah. Martin McDonough.
Starting point is 01:24:48 great movies. Yeah, that reconnected the two of them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's great. There's something super, I don't know, not even super natural, but I don't know. I feel like the twist is going to be like, what? Maybe he's made of sugar. Oh! Somebody throws, Dorothy throws water on him, and he just melts. He gets sticky and hardened and it's awful and you won't be able to mix him into a good cake mix anymore. Oh, no. That's right. Currently not streaming, by the way, Bruges. Oh, that's a bummer, because that movie rocks. You said this, like, the subtext of the show is that it sucks to be an actor in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And it's just like, that phrase, it sucks to be an actor in Hollywood, that could be the name of the Barry movie. Yeah. Like, if they make a movie following that series. Yeah. I think there's a lot of movies and TV shows that could be subtitled. It Sucks to Me. And I think Dexter probably could do that or Bosch, probably a season of Bosch could have been called it Sucks You see that they're going to have a prequel of Dexter?
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah. They've got some kid as a teenage Dexter already cast. What's it called? Original Sin, I think. Dexter, original sin. Yeah, I'd be curious about it. If it's done well, I'm in. But I have concerns.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Sure. It's a weird thing to prequel. But anyway, because the show kind of prequeled anyway. They had all these times where he got long hair and pretended like he was 19 or whatever. And that was weird. Well, I think they're going back to the kid. days like when they found them in the in the in the or what was it a container or something
Starting point is 01:26:24 yeah storage locker storage container I just hope they're shipping container I hope they don't spend a lot of time with him killing cats and stuff like that though you know oh god hope they don't spend any time with him killing cats because that's what it has to be real killers do they start up dad that taught him the you know to have rules and yeah and um yeah who's playing his dad I um it's someone we know it is yeah hold on on a second um i love how we go off on all these tangents i know it's great well this what the this whole
Starting point is 01:26:55 show is that original sin christian slater yes christian slater that is correct christian slater yeah yeah christian slater is the dead and you know what if there's a sequel there's a sequel it should be called nexter next oh this also claims michael see hall's in it so might be little flashbacky oh yeah it could be did i ever tell you about the time that I was a serial killer in Los Angeles growing up. The time before, before I was a serial killer. Before I was a serial killer. You might be wondering.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Oh my gosh. Have him narrate it like freaking. Here are my three simple rules for how you could be a young serial killer in Los Angeles. Very different show. All right. Well, Randy, we're going to roll over to you. Before we do it, just a correction, the chat has reminded me. I thought Twitch Turbo had long been killed, but apparently that's still a thing you can pay for
Starting point is 01:27:46 and that gives you no ads on Twitch. My apologies, I didn't realize it was still a thing. Randy, not that you need to buy Turbo and give Bezos more money. Tell us about your movie and what clip we're going to play. I want you guys to laugh. I want you to have fun. And that's why every few weeks I come at you with some stand-up comedy that I've seen and highly recommend. I watch all the stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I don't recommend most of it. But this is a stand-up who's been all over the place lately. I have seen her so much the last few weeks on, you know, like after midnight and like all the SoCal podcasts and so on. So I went and found this, this hour, comedy hour. It's fantastic. Play the clip. Here you go. So I love synchronized choreographed dances with other people.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Yeah. Like I hate it when people do their own dances on the dance floor. No, no, we should always, always be synchronized. It's more beautiful that way, right? Everyone on the dance floor telling the same story. So at one point I started teaching my husband these choreographed dances So we could do it together I would shoot it posted online
Starting point is 01:28:55 You know I would make it match with me same outfit same hairstyle everything Yeah yeah and at one point during one of these My husband broke down and cried Yeah because I was being a terror Yeah I was like five six seven eight get it right keep a wig on you know That was me That was me and he started crying and he cried crying. And he said to me, I hate doing these dances with you. I never want to do these
Starting point is 01:29:19 with you ever again. And then he goes, because you always want to make us look like we're sisters. I don't know who that is. Who is that? That is Atsko Okatska. Oh, well, that's why I don't know. And her special is called The Intruder. It is streaming on Max. It is so good. Like, I actually tried to give you the lowliest bit from the whole thing, because, you know, want to like to spoil the best jokes. And she never misses. She tells stories like this. The entire hour never misses. She is so freaking funny. Let's see. I'm trying to find, have I seen her before?
Starting point is 01:30:00 Outspo Katska. Oh, here she is. I was pulling up the graphic for a split second. I thought it was the the bull cut gal from Penn 15 because she looks a little bit like her. But no. All right. Oh yeah, she does look like a lot like her. Yeah. And I've said it before, but I just want to repeat, we are in a small comedy renaissance right now. It's thanks to the one-to-punch of COVID and TikTok. TikTok came along and started paying comics, right, to go get clips of their shows and post them.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And that sort of brought everybody up, like this is like a rising tide. comics of her level of Otsko Ocatska's level she's already like been working for a long time right she's like been doing this professionally for like 15 years and so she you know she was able to catapult on top of that and and the effect has just been awesome like you're there are so many like if you guys aren't watching after midnight like I'm not recommendaling it because it's you know four four nights a week show
Starting point is 01:31:05 and it's not like it's a streaming thing but like seriously check on after midnight every now and then they're just showcasing all the best working comics. I pull it up. Yeah, I pull it up more often than I probably expected I would just because I look and see who's going to be on it. So it's like, oh, Jim Rash, great, got to see that one.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Tim and Flo from Progressive Insurance on that one, which is really funny. So yeah, that's a great recommendation too, is after midnight. What slot did she take? Was it the old one that Ferguson has? Or not Ferguson. Colbert, the post Colbert spot.
Starting point is 01:31:39 right so what was that uh what was that the english guy that sang in the car is it him yes yeah okay because he's done james cordon james cordon he's out so there's right and the and that's not remember which jimmy he was he was the jimmy cordon yeah yeah yeah yeah and so like and and after midnight is is capturing people that are
Starting point is 01:31:59 that are definitely rising stars like last week they had a comedian named laura remoso on and you would only know her if you accidentally came across her on TikTok. There's no other way you would know Laura Ramoso but she was hysterical on that show and there's no doubt
Starting point is 01:32:17 that she'll be getting full-fledged, you know, S-tier treatment by the streamers soon. There will be a Laura Ramoso comedy special. Yeah. You know who's into it is well prime too these days but Netflix loves doing comedy specials so if you're good
Starting point is 01:32:33 they will probably give you one is my experience. And what I would I, the reason I'm recommending this to you guys is because it just it's uh it's sort of down the middle comedy uh she doesn't like the intruder is like that's the name of one of her uh that's like the title of one of her bits but like it's just a bunch of great storytelling you know it's it's pg 13 it's fun it's friendly it's almost family friendly like this just a little bit of edge you know right but like there are comedians who are killing it and they aren't um they
Starting point is 01:33:08 doing anything weird. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Um, and they, some of these explosive careers like, uh, uh, oh shit, can't take his name all of a sudden. Oh, Nate Bargazzi. His, his rise to his meteoric rise to fame. Like it happened almost overnight was due to this TikTok, YouTube shorts stuff. And he ended up doing a, um, a pandemic show. Yeah. Outdoors in Vegas somewhere. Yeah. They really took off. And. And, And his, I mean, that was a moment for these guys. They're younger guys. No one had heard of most of these people.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And they just exploded. And Nate's amazing. I freaking love Nate. He's really good. If you think of standups in tiers and they really are, right? There's like standups in the S tier who are getting huge specials. And then the A tier who can go sell out a big room, right? And so on.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Like they, the B and C tiers are what's really lifting everybody right now. They're just all these comedians who are able to put their stuff online, go on TikTok, and find an audience. And like I say, there are some really, really good, you know, comedians who have been working really, really hard. They're getting uplift from all of this. And here you go. Here's a best example right now. Okay. Cool.
Starting point is 01:34:27 And it's on Netflix. Give her name one more time. Or Max, sorry. Max. What's her name again? This is Atsko Okatska. Got it. I'm at it. It doesn't sound 100% sure, as you were saying that.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Because her name is not pronounced the way exactly the way it's spelled. And when she's on these shows, they have these huge cue cards for the host so they can get it right. And I don't have that. Otzko Ocatska. Nice. Check this out then, folks. I'm going to give you the shortest clip I've ever given. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Okay. 12 seconds is all you're going to get out of this one. because I want you to watch this. If you're the desired audience for this, I want you to watch it without too much info. All right. So here is the clip. It's my last question.
Starting point is 01:35:14 As you sit here right now, did you kill Susan Berman? No. But if you had, you would lie about it, correct? Correct. Nothing further. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:26 That is all you're going to get out of that. Wow. This is, sorry, this is HBO's Jinks Part 2. Did you see the jinx back in 2015, everybody saw that yeah watch that on the plane to uh where it was it was uh Tokyo maybe I think yeah and at the time I felt like you know this is old news like how are we still talking about something 24 years later how is he's not he's dead he's not he's dead yeah he died in let's see
Starting point is 01:35:56 I can tell you that I can tell you 22 yeah and this documentary this follow up documentary which is the long time term of it is the jinks part too, but it is the jinx, the life and deaths of Robert Durst. And it's a follow-up after sort of the explosive final episode of the first series where he went into a bathroom, didn't know his Mike was hot, and essentially talked to himself about the murders he did. Kind of, yeah, confessed in the toilet.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Yeah, and that got a whole new trial started and all this other stuff. This is everything after that. And what led to the next trial and how that went and who was involved and a bunch of sneaky people and behind the scenes that you didn't even know were part of the problem. I really liked it. I thought it was really well done. I thought the first jinx was extremely well done
Starting point is 01:36:41 and I thought this was a great follow-up to it. It's a good, well-structured documentary that sticks to the testimony and recordings and things that actually happen. It's not a lot of pontification. It's just sort of what it is. And this dude is a freaking psycho, man. Freaking psycho, this dude.
Starting point is 01:37:00 If you don't like True Crime, Doctor, documentaries, stay the F-O-A, all right? That's the first one, too. You're not going to care about this, if that's stuff you don't like. But if you like true crime documentaries, this is a good one. So tune in, find it on Max. It's available now in its entirety. They're all episodes throughout, yes.
Starting point is 01:37:17 So my question is, the thing about Robert Durst's death that caught my attention and stuck with me was the question about whether he was killed with COVID, whether someone went and got someone who had COVID rubbed their face on his face to make him die and because like he you know he dies in the middle of
Starting point is 01:37:42 being sentenced. Yeah he's well not in the middle of being sentencing he had been sentenced post sentencing is when he died so he hadn't he was already... I just want to know if this documentary is about that. No because they don't even get into a cause of death dude this guy was a sickly mess by the end anyway like during his sentencing
Starting point is 01:38:00 he's he's sitting there during his sentencing with 15 tubes hanging out of him he's confined to a wheelchair like he's got all these health problems so i i don't even know they don't even get into the cause of death they're just like yeah he dies like shortly after his sentencing and he in some ways that was his way of finally escaping prison time was go ahead and just die before you have to really truly serve it um it's it's interesting he has this friend that was like his best friend his whole life. And it ends up being a really interesting part of the documentary. And I really felt for that guy because he was like this, he was weirdly torn between loyalty to a friend and seeing the writing on the wall and understanding what had probably happened right under his nose and having
Starting point is 01:38:44 to admit to the fact that this guy who was charismatic and, you know, all these things, the loads and loads of money and influence and all this was somehow also responsible for like shooting people in the back of the head. Like, he just couldn't, he couldn't reconcile it. And his whole story, I just found kind of heartbreaking. So there's, there's some good stuff in there. Again, if you like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Well, this friend not, this friend not so much. In fact, he's, he's more known for finally realizing what was going on and telling the truth when asked. But there are other people in here who absolutely covered shit up. In particular, what's her name on this thing here somewhere? can't find her name is it gilberta no anyway his what his current the wife that is legally his wife that is during his death that lady we need to keep an eye on her dude freaking yeah oh yeah there's some dark shit going on there um anyway it's a very intriguing kind of finale to the thing that
Starting point is 01:39:46 started with the original jinks and i think it's worth falling up on it's reviewing reviewing well and I don't think it's just me that likes it. So if you like this kind of thing, get in there and get it on Max today. The Jinks Part 2. You know, I have a rule against sequels to documentaries, right? And it's a rule that I established when they came out with extra episodes for Tiger King. And they were terrible. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:40:09 I'm never going to give these a chance again. Yeah. No, it happens. I mean, sometimes they're bad. Like Tiger King really soured me on Netflix documentaries for the... Sensational documentaries, yeah, from Netflix. Yeah, and I don't know, I don't know what, I mean, there have been good documentaries on their sense. It's just, when you have one that is that sensational and that's stupid and you're
Starting point is 01:40:30 trying to like capitalize on it in the way that they did, it really sours your reputation as like a good documentary source. And I don't know, that kind of bummed me out. I've never quite given Netflix the documentary time that I used to unless it's like nature or something. But you feel like HBO's doing a good job. Yeah, I haven't, I've never, I haven't really run into anything. Although there's a lot of that discovery some of the discovery docs that are on there now, they're just
Starting point is 01:40:55 automatic poop. They're not good since all the changes over at max, but the ones HBO has their names on, those have all been pretty great. What was the there was a documentary about a guy who killed a
Starting point is 01:41:10 like a census taker or at least she disappeared while she was on his property and they put his family through trial but there was you know one person was um probably mentally just shouldn't have been on trial and they coerced him into a into uh admitting guilt for it what was it oh i don't know it was like and they came out with a follow-up and i think it was also netflix and they were like maybe three seasons of it to catch a killer or to making a murderer oh is that
Starting point is 01:41:45 the one making a murderer what i don't remember a second Texas taker being killed. Yeah, that was just the weird, the compound down in, uh, that guy. Oh, yeah. I watched both those series. Those were good. Um, but there's a, yeah, that is it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Okay. I guess it wasn't, was it a, uh, census, it was somebody who had come to his house and disappeared. Yeah, making a murder. Don't, I, remember we got a bunch of seasons and it kept coming back. And we never really got closure on the, the, the, the kid, the younger kid. who was compelled into confessing exactly he didn't commit
Starting point is 01:42:24 yes well I mean there's there's two seasons I felt like the second season did a pretty good job of that part it didn't yeah it did not the second season ended with him about to be tried again and we never and they didn't do a third season to like oh maybe they will when his stuff's done who knows maybe but it's been six years or yeah six years
Starting point is 01:42:47 since the Oh yeah 2015 and 2018 geez yeah so well maybe we're done with it that's the Ken Kratz guy
Starting point is 01:42:53 that's where we got Ken Krats Brian right kid Kratz yes exactly yeah Brian's come over and look at my
Starting point is 01:43:00 briefs that guy dude oh my gosh all right well there you have it these are all up on quicktms dot LI if you want
Starting point is 01:43:09 to follow that and you can find that link at TMS or on the TMS website frogpance dot com slash TMS I wish you both just a nothing
Starting point is 01:43:15 but a just a thrilling week of and happiness and joy. Really? Yeah. Whatever you want. Do what you want. It's your oyster.
Starting point is 01:43:24 All right? Crack it open. Put some sauce in there. You know, make it yours. Say less. Say more. Say less.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Say less. Oh, too late. Cut you off. Sorry. Yeah, this was a photographer. It wasn't a census taker. Lector. Hannibal Lecter had the census taker.
Starting point is 01:43:44 That's right. It's easy to mix all this stuff up. Easy. Yes, exactly. I just remember they had a fire pit and he burned the bones in a fire pit, they said, or something. Maybe he didn't, but maybe he did, I don't know. That whole thing was crazy. Oh, God, it was so crazy, yeah. All right, we're done, and we're out of here.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Frogpants.com slash TMS for all the stuff you guys might need. We're only left with one thing to do, and that is for Brian to play a song so that we can feel good about our life. Good thing you mention that, because I have one. Oh, good. Casey wrote in and said, Dear Baiton, Swick. I'd like to request a song for my 46th birthday. Yes, that means I'm old, and I get the old lady soundbite. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:44:24 I can give you that. How about we play that now? Happy birthday. There you go. Nice. I'm a metalhead. I'd love everything heavy metal, old and new. I don't have a particular song in mind,
Starting point is 01:44:36 so I'm leaving into the covermaster's capable hands to choose a metal cover. If it helps narrow things down, my favorite old school bands from Metallica and Iron Maiden. Scott, could I get an old school winning from Charlie Sheen? if it's not lost on one of your broken hard drives. I love to show, though, Casey. Man, that was a while ago, but let's see. I think I still have that, though. First year of TMS, we had the whole Charlie Sheen thing.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Let's see if I've got that. Winning, right? Yeah, I would have said winning. Okay, here we go. Oh, good. Winning. Still have it. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Still got it. Excellent. All right, Metallica, sure. I'm not going to pull from their excellent garage ink album, which is some amazing covers. bands that influence them. But I'm going to go even further back to something that I picked up in 1990. One of the first cover albums I owned, it was a double CD from Electra for their 40th anniversary called Rubiott. And this had a bunch of up-and-coming Elektra artists doing covers
Starting point is 01:45:34 of older Elektra artists. Metallica being the newer and Queen being the older. So here's Metallica covering Queen's Stone Cold Crazy from Rubiott. Sleeping very telling on a set in a morning, I was dreaming I was Al Capone. Rumors going round, got a clear out of town, smell it like a drabush boat. Here's coming to law, going to break down the door. Carrying away once more Never, never Never want it anymore
Starting point is 01:46:20 Gotta get away For this don't go blow Crazy Stone Cold Crazy yellow Midday afternoon, I'd kill her deafoon, and she's playing on my side to mood. Anymore, anymore, can I take it anymore? Gotta get it away from this, don't go no! Crazy, don't go crazy, yo!
Starting point is 01:47:16 Walking down the street, shooting people that I meet, fully loaded Tommy Gun. Here come a deputy. Try fucking getting me. Got a fucking yellow and run. They got to sirens loose. I run right out of juice. They're going to put me in a cell if I can't go to heaven. Let me go. to hell crazy Don't call crazy you know This show crazy you know This show This show is part of the FrogPants Network
Starting point is 01:48:07 Yes Get more at frogpants.com It's me. I got your kid.

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