The Morning Stream - TMS 2652: Summon the Beekeeper

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Blow It Like an NES Cartridge. Road-Ragey Dicknose. Bonkâs Cork, Utah. I'm Going Vintage. Gray-Haired Jack-Knife. One Of Our Dans. Edward Batmanson. It's still not Kate Walsh. Brain Worm Spores. Scraping the Kid out of bed. Honk if You're Froggy. Nebish little weenie boy. A zip-zop-zoop turning circle. I Don't Like Osama Beeeeeeeeeen Ladin. Never Check Settings with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What rhymes with mate Leon? Why, that would be Patreon. And who joins the TMS Patreon? Cool listeners like you. Join today at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, blow it like an NES cartridge. Road ragey dick nose. Bunks Cork, Utah.

I'm going vintage. Grey-haired jackknife. One of our Dan's. Edward Batmanson. It's still not Kate Walsh. Brain worm spores. Scraping the kid out of bed. Honk if you're froggy.

Nebbish little weenie boy. A zip-z-z-z-up-zoop turning circle. I don't like Osama Bean, Lodden. Never check settings with Wendy and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. You know, I've realized through all this that I'm just too old to be chasing Young Hot Tail. And who killed the world? D, D, M-M-S, S, D. The morning stream.

He's taking a dump in a can. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream. You probably knew that. Today is April 30, or May 30th, rather. We're done with April. May 30th.

Wow, you get the year right. Yeah, got the day wrong. We only got one more, though, so May. is done basically. One more May. It's going to be May. I got this, 30th tomorrow, 31st tomorrow.

I went to check on my iPad Pro order and it says we'll ship sometime between or it'll arrive between the 31st of May and June 7th or 11th or something. And that's fine. That's what it said the whole time. But normally they're either on time

with the day or they're early. That's one of my experiences with Apple stuff that usually are early. I go check it today and it's like, we'll still arrive between the 3rd. 31st and the 11th. I'm like, tomorrow's the 31st. I don't think it's going to get here.

You have not gotten a, we've shipped your order. You might get it today, right? Because sometimes if it's coming from the U.S. and not coming from China, then you get the notification, like the afternoon before you receive it, the afternoon before the day that you receive it. So I might still get them this afternoon that says, we've shipped your order. It's coming from Cupertino, and it's going to arrive tomorrow, sometime between blah, blah, blah. I have had times where that's happened.

So it's entirely possible that I get it tomorrow or even earlier. But chances are, no. And it's not that it's, look, my current setup, and I have some commission art I have to do and some other things. It works fine. But I feel like I'm, you know how that is when you know something newer's coming? And you're just like, oh. Absolutely.

It's like as soon as you know that there's a newer version, whatever it is, doesn't even have to be Apple. As soon as you know that there's a newer version, it's like there's like a little gray cloud that hangs over your existence. existing device, whatever it is. Yeah, it's like when I play, you know, I can't play old consoles. I mean, I can when they're really old. Like, I like to fire up a Super Nintendo or something.

But in the day when, in the day, so when the N64 came out, I was like, I cannot touch my SNS, get out of here. There's a sphere of influence, right? So if it's like, you know, any time the year after a new console has been released, those things are going to feel crappy and shitty. But if it's like 10 years, it's like, I'm going vintage. I'm playing me some duck hunt on N.S. Yeah, once it's vintage and retro, we're all in again.

But until then. I drove a woman to the airport. I picked up in Boulder yesterday. I drove her to the airport and a nice little $48 ride. Oh, my God. It was like, it was almost enough for me to say, like if once I get the airport ride back, it was like, this is enough for me to say, hour and a half, I'm done for the day. I don't want to do any more lifting.

but she got in the car and I have a phone charger thing on the back of the passenger seat and she's like oh my god I'm so glad you have this and then she plugs it in is like oh it's not working but it must be my phone because the one in the hotel wasn't working either and I said oh yeah just you know maybe check and see if you've got any lint or anything in there and she says I'm going to bloat like an NES cartridge I'm like oh we're going to this is going to be a fun 28 mile drive here we're going to have some fun yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, no kidding. 48 bucks, though.

So let me understand this. It's always a distance thing, is how they chart. How does Lyft or Uber determine what a cost of a trip is? I think it's based on miles. It might be based on time, right? Like, it might be based on a combination of the two, because there are times of day that going from two major streets that are a mile apart, but kind of require you to go on the highway

will take you 20 minutes versus at other times of the day when you can do it in five and it'll cost more for the passenger then so it's a combination of miles and time okay that's interesting yeah because that makes sense if you got high traffic time there might be a route that's less miles but more time

and then the route you take instead is way less time but more miles so they probably have to they probably go with whichever one is greater I think they go with whichever one is greater. Yeah, they basically, they use, I don't know if this is still the case, but at one point they were using maps from the Department of Waste or basically the routes that the trash trucks take to get around. Oh, right, yeah.

Which is why a lot of times in the early days when I was lifting, they would send me down an alley to pick somebody up, Like it would determine that was faster than going down their street. Oh, right. But I think it uses some sort of like, you know, not ways, not Google Maps, not Apple Maps, but something along those lines basically to say, how long will this take? Or from here to here, how long will this take a little base the cost on that? And from that time of it.

So does it, so when it, is it, sorry, these questions are. Yeah, no, no. It's like newbie questions. But when you, when you are using, or when you, you're going to your destination, the Lyft app that you use, because your app's different than the rest of us, right? Like, you have a more, you have access to more. The driver app is different from the passenger app. Okay. So when you use that, it's telling you, it's being your Apple Maps, your Google Maps, or whatever. It is. It's giving me the turn-by-turn directions.

And what's cool, this is what's great about it. I've got my phone on a little mount that sits there the whole time I'm driving, and then I have it plugged into my console, phone plugged into my console, so another version of the map appears on my center display. So the passenger is able to look and see, oh, oh, yeah, it's sending you down 13th. It's actually faster if you go down 12th and then make it left. It's like, oh, cool. So they can see that, and they can even see, like, estimated time of arrival and how many miles we still have to go and stuff like that so it's um what if they've done all their own mapping or if

they use uh they they they set contracts somebody system i'm sure and and that's and they take half of my money for driving to pay for whatever that is yeah it sure feels like it but i you know like i bet it's like google probably google because google's got an API that i think you can just tap into might be might be google yeah um you do have the option when you're driving um uh to choose actually what system it uses. So you can say oh, I don't want to use, I don't want to use Google, or I don't want to use

a Lyft's built-in thing. Give me Google Maps or give me ways. And it'll do that, but there's some drawbacks of like it's how it lets you know that there's another ride for you to accept. Yeah. Because if you use the regular lift maps, then it's right there in your system.

And when another ride comes in, you can go, oh yeah, I'll take that ride. It's going where I want to go or, oh, no, I don't want that one. It's going down to an hour and a half away Colorado Springs or whatever. So it lets use other people's maps, but they're disadvantages, big disadvantages to using those. Yeah, interesting. Well, see, now we've got, it's a deeper look than I expected. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, it's good to know how these things work. So next time you're in the car with your Uber or Lyft driver and you see a little phone mounted up there, and now you have a better idea of what the hell they're doing. Now you know what they're looking at and, yeah. Why they're charging you so much. As if they have a choice. Yeah, unfortunately, it's what lift and Uber decide to charge. Yeah, they set those limits and then you just get a shitty percentage of that.

And everyone wins. Well, mostly Uber and Lyft win. Speaking of driving, you know, Jesse, our old pal, Jesse the garbage dude. Yeah, jerky Jesse. Jerky Jesse. We haven't had any jerky in a while, Jesse. What's going on? We have it because it's gotten way more expensive for him to source the meat that he

stupid pandemic or what do we blame for meat sourcing I don't know what to blame we can blame Mitch McConnell well I believe the salted meats I think they should be harder for common America see Brian's got his Trump I've got my McConnell That's right yep exactly

I hope you don't get the The hate it's like as much as I get the Well, there's two people in the chat who, like, always go, no, no more Trump impersonation. Yeah, you do a really good one. And if I, you know, I don't, I actually think I also think you're just... And Mitch McConnell, looks like a turtle. We call on Mitchie.

Slow Mitchie. Well, I believe the president. Blah, blah, blah, bleh. Actually, these days, you just go blank. That's a good McConnell impression. Yeah, just stare off into space. Mr. McConnell, what are you going to vote for this next session? He just goes, well, oh, I.

He just holly freezes. Anyway, here's the thing from Jesse. Jesse called in. This is about parking or moving big trucks. We were talking about how Nick's trying to get his G, whatever it's called license, and moving a big truck scares the shit out of me, but he likes it.

And Jesse wrote in with this information. Hello, Smokey and Bandit. This is Jerky Jesse, calling about TMS. You were talking about the semi-trucks and how you would not be able to drive them or back them up. Well, as a guy that's got his Class A CDL license, I'll tell you this, it's so much easier backing those up than it is a boat trailer. It's ridiculous.

The longer, the point of pivot from where the fifth wheel is, which is the pivot point on the semi, to the rear axle, the much slower of a process it is, so a lot easier it is to control. Whereas a boat trailer will go out of control with just the slightest movements. So, just figured I'd give you that heads up. Love the show, though. Okay. So this explains when we would go to Lake Powell, and I would see grown men spend 20 minutes just trying to restrain the boat.

Absolutely. I mean, that was me. This was back again in the Chevy shove-it days. I had a trailer hitch, and I would take the aforementioned sailboat that I had, which came up last week, to Carter Lake and go on the boat ramp. And no matter, you know, I would do these little tiny movements and kind of, oh, it's going straight, it's going straight. And then all of a sudden, ween, like you would all of a sudden start going to the side. Yeah, and it's like he says, the slightest freaking tick to the left or right. So it makes me happy that the big rigs are a little bit easier to manage.

I wonder why that is. Is it because they have, you know, trailer, at least the trailers that I'm familiar, just have the two. two wheels so they're more susceptible for those those turns maybe those little break has got maybe it's a sure the shorter the that's a really good question i don't know what the physics are there why is it different yeah they must do there must be something about it this is nick said the same thing to me he says dad it's not that big a deal you can actually back these in real easy i'm like oh okay okay son he was doing redwing he was driving he was doing that plus now he's doing you know he's getting that license that jesse just mentioned and uh so he's so he's doing that

every day. And I checked him with him yesterday. I said, how's it going? He goes, I don't know if this early morning stuff's going to work out. And I said, oh, really? I'm like, oh, really, the kid that I'd have to freaking scrape out of his bed to get to school on time, you're telling me you don't like mornings? Weird. Weird. Well, what do you know? Mattiatic 8.9 says, also, RVs don't require anything else and the gray hairs drive them. Yeah, I mean, they're all one unit as opposed to, there's no hinge in the middle that you've got to worry about jackknifing. That's right. It's all one big beast. I wonder how I would do with those because, you know, the turning radius on the Kisole, zip, jop, jup, I'm in the, I'm in a parking

space, whether it's backing in, forward in, parallel parking, whatever. Yeah. But I wonder how I would do with a Winnebago or something. Yeah, like a big, like a, it doesn't even have to have a trailer, just like a big RV. That just scares me. Oh my gosh. I really don't like it. There's a reason I like tiny cars, and it's because they're maneuverable. I like that they're low profile, and I like that I can park them anywhere, and I don't have to think about it. Oh, gosh, yeah. He's like, okay, great. Looks like I have to park in the furthest reaches of the parking lot, because that's the only place that will actually have room for this beast that I'm driving.

Yeah, give me a small car every time. All right, well, there's that. Thanks, Jesse, for that. Also, on the tailgating things, a lot of car stuff here. Yeah, it's car talk. Didn't click, your clack. Yeah, let's do it. Let's make that happen.

People have to fix their differentiator. One of those guys died so, you know, we can bring them all back. Let's see. It's Dan rode in. It's not our Dan, different Dan. This is our Dan, too. He's just, you know. He's our, yeah, he's one of our Dan's.

How about that? He's one of our Dan's, yeah. There are many Danes. This one is ours. He says, about that tailgating thing, hey, scooter and Buick. Well, small vehicle versus a big, wide boat. of a vehicle. But all you have to do is go, and I'm dead in the scooter.

There's no way I survive. Right, exactly. Hey, Scooter and Buick, just listening to Episode 2469. By the way, this is 2652. So he is back a few miles on the number. Unless he meant 26, I know, 2569? Anyway, it must be forever ago because 2469 was how many episodes? Nearly 200 episodes ago.

Yeah, geez, Louises. Anyway. Yeah. He probably got the six in the four, 2649. That sounds about right. Oh, he switched them, yeah. Because you would ask me what I do about tailgators, and I think it was on Thursday's episode.

That felt more, yeah, more recent than 200 episodes ago. Well, anyway, he says, if it was talking about tailgating and bumper stickers, you guys should totally do a run of, quote, keep honking, unquote. I'm listening to the, or no, I'm sorry, here's more quote. Keep honking. I'm listening to the morning stream slash coverville podcast stickers. Then tadpullers can stick them to the road, ragey dick knows behind them. and maybe spread the words so you guys get a bump in the angry pickup driver demographic.

I love it. Love the show, though, Dan. It's a little long, a little wordy. The morning. It's a little wordy. Yeah. I need more than that. I need like...

You know, I got, uh, there. I do have coverville bumper stickers? Should I grab one really quick? Yeah, do you have something handy? Yeah, yeah. I had one for a while, too. I gave them all away. They were my, um, it's a, I think it was, it's a rap.

It was a, it's a, it's, uh, Admiral Ackbar looking all gangster rapies. He's got, like, a gold chain and a hat backwards, and he's holding the mic, and he's kind of, like, into it. And it says, it's a wrap, and then it was in, it's like a bit bumper sticker you'd put on the back of your car. I don't know if anyone ever got one of those, but I gave him out for a while. Oh, yeah, look at that. This is the, uh, oh, I ear, I couldn't tell what that ear was. Eye ear, instead of a heart, it's an ear, I ear coverville. Oh, I get it. I like it.

Those are cool. I didn't know you had those. I don't know why I don't bring those to, uh, TMSV. I need to give these away and put them in the loot bags or something. But, yeah. Chad, are you, are you interested in TMS bumper stickers? Because we could make a TMS bumper sticker. That could be fun. There you go.

If y'all want one, we'll work on it. I don't know who wants one. I mean, Claire is all-caps interested. So is I am sci-fi. Some good old caps coming in from a few people. So that means, you know, they'll take one. All right, cool. So we'll do a run.

And, yeah, we'll see how it goes. And if you guys like him, maybe we'll do another run. Get I out. Get I out. Brian, if they like that one. LaSage, that, the new Coverville shirts coming this summer. Oh, summer. The ones he designed five years ago.

He'll be designed like five years ago. Oh, he was part of that. That's cool. Yes. Yeah. That's awesome. They're great. They're based on the Copper Tone logo of, you know, the dog that's pulling the little

girl's bathing suit off. Oh, yeah. This, uh, are, I always make. it up with the Morton Salt thing. Why do I do that? Yeah, that's just a woman who's got a yellow slicker on, and she's got an umbrella, and she's spilling salt behind her. That's still a little kid, though, right?

Or am I wrong? Still a little kid, yeah. Okay. All right. You said woman that threw me for a minute. Oh, sorry. Well, it's all right. You know, young woman. A young woman, yeah, both a young woman. You'll be a woman soon. Remember that song? Terrible song. That's right. Terrible song. Don't read those lyrics. The urge overkill aversion way better than the Neil Diamond original.

Yeah. It's also creepy as hell. It is creepy. It is kind of a little bit, yeah. Girl, you'll be 18 soon. And when you are, I'll Jerry Seinfeld this shit. I'll do some step-bom boy. Is Jerry Seinfeld okay?

What is going on? Look, if I don't know, look, I don't think a guy who, when he was 38, 39 was dating a 17-year-old. I don't think he should get a pass when he's talking about how men should be, which is a big thing he's doing right now. We're not masculine enough. I miss the days. Also, your entire career is based on being a little nebish little weenie boy.

Right? You're not like tough guy, masculine man. That was putty. Right. Exactly. That was every other character that wasn't you on Seinfeld. I know. Why? Why can't he just not, why even talk about it? I know you're 70. He's 70, all right? He's still one of the greatest comedians of all time. Stick to that, dude. Right. Exactly. We don't need social commentary from a guy that's a literal billionaire. I think he's a, he crossed the billionaire mark. Oh, easily. Yeah. Yeah. With what the, with what the syndication of Seinfeld makes? Come on, he's got to be. Yeah. He made, I mean, whatever, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. A seven-year-old yells at the sky.

about how men used to be and he misses it. It's like, dude, you dated a 17-year-old when you were almost 40. Yeah. By the way, I did watch Unfrosted. Yeah. You noticed I did not use it for my recommendal yesterday.

I'd say, you know what? Here's the deal. It's, um, there are elements in there that are very funny. But there's a lot of kind of grown, eye-rolling, low, the low-hanging fruit kind of jokes. It's like, really, I don't know.

You probably could have been, That probably would have been funnier had it been more thought out, or if you went further with the joke than just taking the obvious kind of a little bit. Yeah, it bugs me too. Thomas Chambers saying, now do Richard Dreyfus? I don't know what that's about. What is that? What happened with Richard Dreyfus?

Is he in trouble for something? I hadn't heard. I don't follow the celebrity skin rag business. I just sort of. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful cold. I think I should be able to say. we're going to need a bigger boat What is going on with

I heard that Somebody tweeted Richard Dreyfus Jerry Seinfeld Robert De Niro All said things In the last few days But only

De Niro said What needed to be said Or something like that Oh I don't know Oh here it is I'm looking at it now Richard Dreyfus accused Of going offensive rant

During Jaws screening People call it disgusting What did he say though Oh shit that, really? Homophobic, misogynistic, something, something. Dude, really?

Let's see. They don't get into specifics here. But anyway. Let's see if this one does. Jerry apologize for the B movie. I don't hate the B movie like people do. I think the B movie's fine. It's not great.

It's just fine. It's like any number of, like DreamWork style movies, just sort of there, and it's fine. Yeah. Oh, so he, okay, described as bigoted opinions on transgender kids plus criticism of the Academy Awards having inclusivity and diversity guidelines. Oh, boy. Yeah.

Well, have fun with that, Richard Dreyfuss. I mean, these guys are old as hell boomer types. No one should be surprised these old guys. Old guys with money. That's what they do. Right. You got a lot of money and a lot of time, and the world's different for you. So you say stupid shit.

It's whatever. It was funny to hear the Pope say something like, it was a joke. Oh, yeah. What was that about? He said something like... He used a slur, a homophobic slur in discussion that he claims was said as a, in, like, a joking, what was the word? What was the word? It's just hard for me to even say, oh, he jokingly used a homophobic slur, the Pope.

What did he say? Do we know what he said? I don't know. It was off, it was, uh, uh, it was not recorded or not. Dang it. I want to hear it. Yeah. I know.

I know. I want to know what he said. Was he just, like, reading lyrics from like dire straits money for nothing and got to that, the other F word, you know, maybe? I don't know. That's right. Someone is a millionaire. I could just hear him singing it.

I was going to say, yeah. He's got his own jet airplay. The little poot. Yeah. That song. When, I assume, what's his name, performs that live still? Do you think he still, do you think they dropped that? I don't know.

I don't know if Knopfler, I don't even know if Nopler performs that song live. That'd be interesting. I bet we could find out, actually. Let's see. Setlist.fm. Let's look for the most recent Noppler concert. Yeah. You know, I hope he doesn't because that song is just, you know, meh.

Yeah, it's not even the best song on that album. Last concert from Knopfler was November of 2019, so he hasn't done anything since the pandemic. His set list was, Tunnel of Love, great song, fantastic song. Let's remember Tunnel of Love before we think about, I want my MTV, whatever that's called, Money for Nothing. Big Rock Candy Mountain cover of the Burl Live song. Oh, I love that song, yeah. The Hole in the Ground, I don't know that one, sailing to Philadelphia, his, great song um yeah uh go love this one i don't know and matchstick man which is not a cover of the

the song that status quo covered who was it donovan earlier pictures of match stick man no it wasn't uh it was dinosaur no it was uh the guy from cracker um oh i don't know that one camper van beethoven did a cover of it status quo maybe did the original of that song yeah sultan's a swing infinitely better than money for nothing to you Travis says i agree it's a great song yeah for sure I listen, you go to the entire, okay, so we talked about albums, right? And we talked, I got you to listen to The Stranger by Billy Joel. Next, go listen to Making Movies by Dyer Straits.

Okay. That front to back, stellar album. Stellar. Making a note. Making movies by Dyer Straits. All right. I'm actually, I'm assembling my best albums or favorite albums. list. Let me make sure that one's on there.

I'm doing, I won't tell people why I'm doing it just yet, but Oh, you got a little, uh, you got a little something something. We got a little project going on. Oh, a little something, something. Yep. Excellent. Um, all right. That's fantastic.

Uh, also, a little thing I learned yesterday. Uh, Kim called me from the road. They've been driving, as you know, doing a road trip across the country. Yeah, doing a road trip. Yeah. They were in 11 states in two days or something. Wow. Or three days.

Whatever was. And, uh, they were passing. She didn't know this night and neither, but when you go to the state line or through the state line from Tennessee to Arkansas, the state line is right in the middle of the river, right in the middle of the Mississippi. There's like a gate there. They have a bridge, and they have a gate that is the dividing line, and I've never seen that before. That's pretty cool. And you've got a couple big, oh, no, you know what I'm thinking of? I'm thinking of Kentucky and I'm thinking of Kentucky and Tennessee.

you've got on either side of the river two big cities. I'm trying to remember what... Oh, right. I know that one, too, but I can't remember it. I flew into one to go to the newspaper for the other kind of thing. It feels like a lot of old timey times, like maybe 1800s or whatever. People were trying to create these dividing lines with waterways. It's like, we'll get this river.

May as well make that the line, you know. Right, right. Between our two states. Yeah. And our two cities, or two states want to share that river, so the line has to be in the middle so that both sides get some of that river. Yeah, yeah. Pretty cool, though. She says, she, what did she say?

She said something about somewhere that she thought was amazing. Can't remember what it was. I was going to give a shout out to the people there, and I can't remember it. Anyway, she was in Nashville for a bit. No, no, not Nashville, Memphis, and got a T-shirt because, and I said, why are you getting a T-shirt of Memphis? She says, because I was born here. And then I went, oh, right, she was born in Memphis. Oh, really?

I don't know why I just assumed. I know she was from Louisiana. I just assumed she was born to Louisiana. Well, she's from, so she technically, Mississippi is, you know, entirely where she grew up. That's right. That's right. Not in Louisiana. Yeah.

But she was born there because they, like the hospitals there better than where they lived on the coast of Mississippi. It's gotten better since then. But that's why they did it. They went up there. you know, pooped her out and the, that's a bad way of saying. It had the baby in Memphis

and then came back. Memphis is interesting because, you know, America's like this, a lot of parts of the world, but like New York is, you know, based on York. Memphis is an old Egyptian city. Oh, is it really? Yeah.

Same with Athens being Agree, Athens, Georgia. Right. So you have all these names. that we've picked. Frank Fort, Kentucky, and Versailles. Yeah, nobody ever hears Memphis and goes, they always think country music and this and that, and the South and whatever. But I'm playing Assassin's Creed Origin a little bit, and I'm in the city of Memphis, and I'm like, yeah, that's right. This is OG Memphis. Like, people forget, it's named after, like, this ancient civilization. I think we should have

more of that shit. More towns should be named after really old stuff. That's okay. So as we develop some land out. in kind of the spaces around, like Wyoming or something. Yeah. Go look to, you know, the ancient either Egypt or Greece or whatever and come up with your city name there. Yeah, you get like Paris, Texas. You got like, you know, I don't know, there's others. I can't think of it anymore.

Utah's lame because all our stuff's like made up internally. It was all like early, you know. Yeah, it's more west of the, or I'm sorry, east of the Mississippi that you've got these towns. that are like that i want to get that what's the what's the irish one was a dublin ohio oh yeah Dublin ohio isn't there like a bonk not bonk cork there's like a cork there's like a cork there's like sure salt lake city no that's really really want to push that cork is what you're doing man got to push the court like really or whatever it was that you're trying to remember cork and you call it bolt and bonk bolt whatever i could go for bolt that'd be fine let's do that anyway uh

so there's that little update from kim let's get into some news. Let's tell people what happened while they were asleep. Oh, smoky and... Whoops, that's the wrong one right there. It's time for the news, brought to you by. Brought you by Coverville today at noon, 12 p.m. Mountain Time, twitch.tv.tv.

The music of Lenny Kravitz. The dude is turning 60, or turned 60 this week. And so you're going to have covers of things like, fly away. It ain't over till it's over. Are you going to go my way? let love rule always on the run like you know all the big hits by Lenny Kravitz covered by other people as well as a cover he did with

Mick Jagger what and another cover he did of Smokey Robinson and the Miracles what you got to listen to that as well to find out what we're talking about that's going to be at twitch.tv slash coverville at noon and I'll be playing a werewolf by night deck in Marvel Snap today nice that guy looks like he's permanently

around 19 or 20 No kidding He's ripped He looks great Yeah His daughter got picked up by a pole cat And Mad Max Fury Road And pulled into the other car

She's so good She is a really great One of the wives Yeah Yeah she's a great wife The many mothers Are the old ladies But

Oh that's true Right right yes You know I went down The biggest deepest hole Yesterday Because the new movie Goes way deeper Into how people

Keep track of history as you know, I won't get into details because someone somewhere will think that's a spoiler, but I'd forgotten at the end of this movie, there's a whole slogan there, and then it says it was written by the first history man. Yeah, I saw you share that post somewhere, yes. And then I got, I wanted to know more,

so I started digging around, and the girl, the old lady in Fury Road that's back at the Citadel named Kitty, who he's all pissed with because she helped them escape. So he runs, where are they? And she's like, they run away, you've destroyed the world, whatever, that lady. And then she's around later in the car.

And she's written all over. She's got like, you know, tattoos just covering her entire body. Oh. And I love it. I didn't remember that. Okay. I love it because that shit's like their, that's like their archivists. Yeah, exactly.

Who needs bookshelves when you've got people? Yeah. People and tattoos. I love that kind of thing. All right. Here is a story. Most of the 15 million bees. contained after a bee-laden truck crashed.

They got most of the bees back, is the point. This truck full of bees crashed, and they all went, and then they got them all back. I don't know how you do that, but that's weird on. I remember when we caught Osama Bee-laden. Oh, I know, right? Oh, that guy was hard to cat. All the other bees, it was hard to tell them apart.

He had the turban and the beard. Be-laden. I love it. Be-laden. My gosh, how do you capture, how do you go? Most of them have been contained. So somebody has counted and determined that they've gotten most of the 15 million bees that were released from this truck. Yeah, like bee counters versus, you know, they're like bean counters, but without the end and a better spelling.

Anyway, tractor trailer. One, two, three, good point. One, two, three. Hold still, you little bastard. Tractor trailer hauling about 15 million honeybees to be used to pollinate blueberry fields, crashed and overturned on interstate. 95. That's interesting. Do we do that a lot? We move bees around to pollinate areas? I didn't know that was a thing.

I didn't realize that. I thought that just happened naturally. I guess if you have to force it because it's not happening naturally. I guess so. Yeah, in areas, because of drought or whatever, the bees have kind of gone away and then once you've got new flora for them to pollinate,

you've got to do something to bring it back. That makes sense. Yeah, I guess I get that. Driver was taking to the hospital as a precaution. the night of the Let's see While first responders worked To ensure safety of the bees That were in the hive

Strapped of the trailer Which landed on its side The bees were mostly contained And the goal was to save them Says Shannon Moss State Police spokesman First responders didn't realize The cargo was bees

Until firefighters Went down an embankment To check for leaking fluids Make sure you know There's not fuel everywhere They learned the hard way The guys did get stung On a regular basis

Everyone got stung at least a couple of times says Larry, who suffered several bee stings. The temperature in the 40s may have kept the bees from getting rowdier during the several hours it took to get the truck upright and removed the truck from the road. A beekeeper was summoned to corral the bees.

He was summoned. I like that. Summoned. Get the beekeeper! It's like he comes out of a big platform or something. Like, what do you mean, summon? That's a weird way of saying. Summon the beekeeper.

Wasn't that the movie? Was the Statham, the beekeeper? keeper in the movie last year? Yeah, I think called beekeeper or something. Was that any good? Did anyone see that? It was good. I saw that in theaters and it was good, but it was like every other Statham,

I'm going to get revenge on the guys that messed you up kind of movie. Was it like a John Wick with bees sort of thing? Kind of, yeah, basically he went after identity theft. Wow, wow. He was hitting up identity theft centers where people were like preying on the elderly and getting their getting their credit card information. It's like, I guess we're,

I guess we're done with, you know, the, the overseas terrorists and stuff like that. Nope, it's, now we've moved on to, I'm hitting up telemarketers next. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't discourage a guy with a shitload of bees from getting revenge for some of the crappy ways we treat each other in the corporate world.

Absolutely, no, and he's, you know, it's, it is, there is nothing about this movie that you feel like oh this is so totally different from anything I've seen Jason Stathen do before but that's good that's what you want that is what you want

I agree with that so Jason keep it up we appreciate it I'm glad you stopped being a swimmer diver and became an actor nice job was he was he really he was a swimmer diver he was well he was a diver I don't know about like Olympic level or anything because you can't just

dive and then walk out well that's true but I think the competition stuff was diving for him and I think there's oh I got a great picture hold on you gotta see this diving uh

chasing statham diving career olympics.com was he in the Olympics he might have been was he really that's awesome geez he's uh oh here you go yeah you got to see this

so this is this is before he had massive hair loss he was young hold on come on scott where's the damn link here we go putting it in discord

okay here you go chat with the tad pool and I'll mute mine so that I can hear your audio there it is oh there's no audio oh just a picture

wow look at that yeah geez he's ripped he's still ripped but he was yeah and like pro diver I don't know if he won anything that's the part I can't find

he may have been like a um let's see Watch rare footage of Statham as a diver I don't want that I can't find it But I thought he won something Or did okay in one of the Olympics Or something like that

Anyway Now he kills people with bees Nice well you know That's what he's got to do By the way I love Tier PW Your music polls are great I'm not sure about the Whitney Houston

How will I know What you know about bee stings How well yeah that might be That one's rough But I do like Beekeeper One just stung me yet That's not bad.

Is he submitting these as titles or something? Yeah, he's submitting these as titles. Well, good job, TRPW. You may win today. I don't know. You may. Well, anyway, good luck to those bees. Here's another story about the Mexican government.

They say the arm of a 19th century mummy came off after mishandling it by the museum staff. Oh, boy, this is bad news. Mexico's Federal Archaeology Agency on Monday accused the conservative governed city of Guantua. How would you say this? Guanohato Guanohato

Guantajato of mistreating one of its country's famous mummified 19th century bodies the National Institute of Anthropology and History over the NIAH

or INAH rather said in a recent or sorry said that during recent innovations or renovations at the museum can't say words where mummified bodies are on

just dragging right off that road gosh no kidding mummified bodies are on permanent display one arm of one of these mummies just freaking came off. Just went plunk, plunk, you know? You know what happened?

Like, they're moving it, it broke off, and they're like, see if you can get it to kind of stick back on the shoulder there. And then they put it back, and then the blue tack fell off. Like, while people are licking it, is that what happened? It'd be great. That would be great, yeah. Watch the display, and then all of a sudden the arm falls off. And then when the guy, the supervisor's coming, Hector's like licking it,

and then just trying to stick it on there and all it keeps falling off it's not going to stay put it behind your back pretend you didn't do it uh anyway these are this is something from the 1800s it was dug up starting in the 1860s and uh something to do with families who can no longer pay their burial fees so there's a lot of corpses that are sort of like shallow graves you can find them and they're that old anyway um let's see skip all that don't care about that uh here we go what appears to be the root of the latest dispute is a turf battle between the I-N-A-H, as I mentioned before, which believes it has jurisdiction over the mummies because it says they are, quote,

national patrimony. I don't know what that means. So fathers of our civilization. Is that what they mean? That's how I would get because, you know, patria is the... Yeah, like patriarch or Latin of the right of... Patrimony.

National patrimony. Because matrimony is marriage. Patrimony. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm looking it up right now because I don't know that. I've never heard that word. Property inherited from one's father or male ancestor.

So, yeah. So, yeah. So, national father's inheritance, basically. Well, they consider it a tourist attraction. The state and city are governed by the conservative national action party, which the Moreno or sorry, Morena party is what it's called, which holds power at the federal level. They consider that group, their arch enemy.

Ooh, I love arch enemies. Yeah, that could, there's your movie right there. Get your bees out, Jason Statham. It's time to go solve another mystery. Well, anyway. That's right. All right, just bring Nicholas Cage on to solve this national, National Mummy Treasure.

Yeah, they lost. We got ourselves a National Treasure Emergency in Mexico. He lost an arm. We got to go get the arm. I sound more like the Andy Sandberg version of Nicholas Cage than the actual Nicholas Cage. You got a little, you got a little Joe, Biden going there, a little bit. Come on, man.

Come on, man. All right. Here's a story I like. Sam Butcher, artist who created the precious moments figurines. Remember those? I do. I also loved him on the Brady Bunch, but yeah. Oh, yeah, Sam the Butcher.

His middle name is the. Yeah. Sam T. Butcher, dated Alice. You know, Alice was only, like 41 in that show? Yeah, she's Colorado. She's, uh, Ann B. Davis, local Colorado one. Really?

Yeah. That's cool. She's still around or she, she, uh, probably not. She passed. Uh, she was 41 in the 70s. She's probably, yeah, she died in 2014. Okay. Not that long ago.

Uh, yeah. Uh, well, anyway, Sam Butcher, the artist who created the precious moments figures of my grandma used to collect. Um, these are the little angelic tear-dropped eyed children that were just like always praying or they had a little flower or whatever shit they did they were these annoying little things they're the ones that that got depicted in the cartoons that were love is dot dot dot right and then you had whatever crap whatever hobby lobby stick that decal on my wall for all family to come over and see kind of saying kind of yeah very much your grandma yeah um not yours in particular

but you know a grandma the company said on a Facebook post that this dude died early Monday surrounded by his family they beat him to death with special moments or whatever they're called precious moments to death with the we've had them with these grandpa

greedy cards yeah it says it was his life's mission to quote share God's gift of love with the world no details about his cause of death were provided some of the Christian theme figurines feature Bible verses and children playing fans have collections numbering in the hundreds

while critics deride them as kitch. I would deride them as kitch. Yeah. They're cheesy. Critics includes 99% of civilization deriding them as kitch. I'm sure that the... The fact of the guy's last name is butcher.

Yeah, butcher, Sam, butcher. Wait, what's the name of the guy in the... The boys? The boys. Something but Billy the butcher. Billy butcher at that. Yeah, but he's not... I don't think his last name is butcher. He's just Billy the butcher.

I thought it was, no. Is it? I thought it was just Billy Butcher, but I could be wrong. I don't look it up now. William J. Butcher or Billy the butcher. I guess it's both. There you go. All right.

So there it is, there it is. William J. Butcher. It's both things. I just assumed that it was just the nickname butcher that he got. Comics like doing that. They like to. Yeah, for sure. Give people names that are, what's a good Marvel one?

It's just funny. that they would say Billy the butcher with his last name was butcher. Just Billy Butcher then. Yeah, I would just say Billy Butchee there. But what's a good Marvel one? What's a Marvel one where the name is so obvious that it's... Otto Octavius?

There you go. That's one right there. Yeah, that's one right there. Exactly. Those crack me up, dude. I love that. There's no chance he's going to become anything but something octopus related. Yeah, just no other way around it.

Oh yeah, Victor von Doom, another good one, Dr. Hill Houn, yeah. Victor von Doom. It's so stupid. Victor Freeze, that's another one. It's not spelled freeze, though, right? It's like freeze. F-R-I-E-S or something like that.

Something like that, yeah. It's so dumb. All right, let's move on to, yeah, we've got time for this. Edward Batman. Edward Batman, yeah. Edward Batman. That's a bad one.

Bill, Bill Batman. Larry Superman? Yeah, Larry Superman. By day, I'm Larry Superman. Franklin Joker, nice one. All right, workers removed dozens of apparent marijuana plants from Wisconsin Capitol Tulip Garden. So the capital of the state. Oh, nice.

Somebody, someone snuck in there, planted a bunch of weed in the Madison Garden thing. I love it. The governor's tulip garden. I freaking love this kind of stuff. Someone plans to harvest dozens Or someone's plans to harvest dozens Of apparent marijuana plants grown at the Wisconsin State Capitol grounds

Have gone up in smoke The plant sprouted in the tulip garden Outside the Capitol Is where these things are Tatiana Warwick A spokesman for the State Department administration Told Associated Press In an email Friday

That workers had removed the plants But her agency could not determine If they were marijuana or hemp Both are forms of cannabis But only marijuana has the compound that gets people high. You might call it THC. Or sometimes I call it accidentally H-D-C, which is a different thing.

They make VR headsets and things and phones. Yeah. I don't know why I do that. Anyway, University of Wisconsin-Madison botanist Shelby Ellison, who examined the plants for the station before they were removed, told the station that they were cannabis plants. But she told the Associated Press on Friday that she couldn't say for certain if it was marijuana or hemp. So maybe these things are just hemp and you go make a basket out of it or whatever you do.

Yeah, but I mean, do you, how do you, is the only way, I guess you could do some science on it to determine whether or not it's, it's marijuana or hemp. Yeah, I wonder how you do that. You just do some kind of chemical. They'll probably just destroy it. It's not like there's a shortage. It's like, oh, no, we need to save the hemp. Yeah. It's also illegal in Wisconsin, so this is why it's a big deal.

Let's see, marijuana remains illegal. Assembly Republicans introduced to bill last session. that would have legalized marijuana for medical purposes, but they couldn't muster support among their state senator counterparts, and the measure never got a hearing. Crazy. Yeah. I wouldn't, you know, all right, Colorado, Washington,

we were the first, right, to legalize it and make recreational okay. Wisconsin, it feels like it's a blasphemy that Wisconsin does not have legal recreational marijuana. Yeah, well, not even medical. That's the weird. like we even have it freaking Utah Utah has medical what are you guys doing over there if Utah can have it I mean the only I still think the big holdout will be when this finally all happens and everywhere it's just legal everywhere or even in federal Idaho will be your holdout that will be the 50th state like it's going to be we've got

49 that have made it okay and Idaho is the one that's I'm convinced I don't know for sure but I'm pretty convinced like usually usually medical leads to yeah the laws just start falling Utah, I would have even guessed Utah, but I didn't know. I didn't realize that Utah had medical. Oh, yeah. We've had it for a while, too, years. So it's, and every year they try to introduce, you know, legislation to do whatever. And they have, you know, strange alcohol laws here.

So that probably means that when it happens, we'll have very strange cannabis laws. Sure, sure. Whatever. You'll have to be a member of a club to get recreational. That's the one thing I remember from when I went to the Salt Lake Tribune Deserate News to do installations there. That I arrived the night before. I drove past the Olympic area and I went to a bar near the hotel. And like it was actually right next door to the hotel.

Yeah. Went to a bar and, you know, said, oh, I'll take a, you know, gin and tonic or whatever I was drinking at the time. And they said, oh, okay, here you go. and they gave me a little piece of paper and then just signed this. And I signed it and says, okay, you're now a member of our club here at the bar.

Here's your gin and tonic. Yes, it was really, really dumb. It was like, it was really, really dumb. It's extremely dumb. That's why they don't do it anymore. That's gone now.

Yeah. But that's all it was. The law was passed about this club thing. And so when you advertised your bar on the radio or whatever, there were things that were required. You had to say in the commercial on the air, you had to say, at somewhere in it,

like in the little subtext at the end said really fast or whatever. You had to say, we are a club, not a, you know, whatever. You had to bring up that club thing. Yeah, yeah. Club members only or something like that. But then the trick was it was never anything more than you had to go in and do this formality of like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was so small town deputizing of a deputy. Right.

Yes, exactly. Like, here, you put the star, you're a deputy, get out there. Like, that was it. Right. Yes. So stupid. So it was just so in name only or, you know, whatever the phrase is like it's, uh, uh, formality, I guess, is the word.

Yeah, they thought they were creating some sort of bar to entry. It was never that. It was just so dumb. No. Anyway, we'll see where we end up. Let's take a break. When we come back, my sister will be here. We're going to take on an email we actually got last week and skipped because of stuff that came up real time on the show.

Yeah, it was great. Yeah. It was great. But we're going to get to it. So that's coming up after this song from Brian. What do you have? I have an album that I have been listening to ever since it. came out last Friday, not just the song I'm about to play for you, but the whole album.

Oh, my God. This is like your ideal combination of modern lounge, female-fronted lounge band, like really, really good stuff. And not that, not the cheesy redundant. Here's a Basanova version of this song that you'll find on Amazon. No, this is like some really legit, cool stuff. this is a band called La Luz L-A-L-U-Z

Brand new album is called News of the Universe See they're up one-up and clean News of the World Oh no no We're News of the Universe Wow Just came out May 24th

This is the first single From the album It's called Puppies Puppies Puppies Puppies This is La Luz from their brand new album News of the Universe

I woke up with a memory The soundtrack for a tender scene I didn't want to leave it in a dream as we were before someone's seen piano scored the moment when we snuck behind the trees

Oh, they scared I thought I'd disappear Under the weight of troubles Stalking on the line's mind When it's weird The first runs to break through a love across the field The poppies come in In the overflow car lot

Waiting for you call I'm not alone I've got the radio one Someone made a big machine That somehow makes the air More clean in Germany Or something I forgot All this year

I thought I disappeared And I did the weight of troubles Stalking them into life Day, do you, the first one's to bring through all across the field, the poppies come again All this year The world is here I'm going to disappear

and read the weight of trouble stuck in a light of light One, two, the first tries to break through all across the field, the party's coming again. I was just wondering if you wanted to hang out with me and smoke weed and fill our bellies with diet so and play burnout revenge for the PS2. No shit, Frank. Do tell me who that was again. Sure. That's a band called La Luce.

Check out their entire album News of the Universe. It is just as good as the song that you just heard, which is called Poppies. That's La Luce. Nice. Real quick. So I'm going to play this again, and then I want to talk about it.

I was just wondering if you wanted to hang out with me and smoke weed and fill our bellies with diet soon and play Burnout Revenge for the PS2. I cannot recommend enough the newer episodes. Oh, I love the first season, too, but the new episodes of Smiling Friends, the animated Adult Swim thing on Max. Oh, never seen it.

Oh my gosh, that show, dude. It's my favorite thing. Did I interrupt my Archer viewing with Smiling Friends? I mean, it's a, it is one of the weirdest cartoons, but I don't know. The sauce in it is a good sauce. I'm completely hooked on it. I liked it already.

I saw it back when the first season aired, and it took forever for these new episodes to come out. What the hell am I? looking at it. It's like a mix of regular 2D animation, but then there's a couple 3D people in it and, oh, this is disturbing. It's very, very weird. You really absolutely should watch it.

It's something else. There's my old side recommendation for everybody. I was going to say, this never came up as a recommendal. How come? I don't know. I think it's, well, the first season's old, and I think I just never got around to it. And these just started hitting the new ones. So, anyway, can't recommend it enough.

It's weird as shit, though. If you like weird. Yeah, not, no name. Oh, Nick Wolfhard. No, wait, not Nick, not Finn Wolfhard. Nick Wolfhard, who's, how's, uh... It's nobody you'll know. I think it's all the creators.

Nick Wolfhardt looks just like Finn Wolfhard. Oh, he's brother. Oh, no way, really? Yeah, yeah, same hair. I didn't know that. Actually, yeah, Nick Wolfhardt kind of goes further into the emo Philips, uh, or into the tidy Tim look than Finn does. Oh, weird.

Yeah, he's, um, uh, look at that. It's crazy. I never knew that person existed. I didn't either. Yeah, this is mostly like Michael Cusack and Zach Hedell are the two creators and they do most of the voice work. Gotcha. I just am completely enamored with it. And it's weird.

It's so freaking weird. So freaking weird. But all in good ways, in my opinion. Anyway, let's get Wendy on. She asked me to stall a little. So that was my stall. Oh, good. That worked out perfectly then.

Yeah. I didn't even know and I did a great job of. Yeah, you added, you helped. I helped with the stalage. This is when you do a show this long, guys. This is how we know how to do it. All right, let's get into it. Here we go.

Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. That's right. It's Wendy Dunford, my sister joining us as she does every Thursday to do a little therapy Thursday. Help you guys out with some of your problems. Wendy, welcome back. Hi. How are you? Good.

How are you? Good. Boy, you're just coming right in. You answered right away. Your phone's good. I know. for this is if if anyone saw me stack dice in Las Vegas you will know that I have a chaotic brain sometimes and part of that chaotic brain is to never check settings and so I just decided what

if I check my settings and of course it's obvious what my problem has been if you just checked your settings yeah settings are I'm with you though in the whole like in this modern world you think we would be things would just run now you know and they maybe and maybe that's why we do that or why we get madder now because for the most part things do so when they don't it really stands out it's like I think there's a bit of that going on craziness it's like internet or power when the power goes out as rare as it is it is I feel like I've never had such anger well but then but but think about what's actually happening and like in times of past like when we were kids I swear in the 80s all this time all the

the time power was going out. And he never even thought of it. Oh, power's out. All right. I guess we're not playing Nintendo. Let's go outside. Like no big deal. Right.

Now it happens. You're like, freaking out. I know. You freak out and you're mad and you're like, I know this only happens once every decade, but damn it. Anyway, it's good to have yawn. And just real quick here before we even get going, the therapy show season two on its way. We got some planning to do, some conversations to have. I was supposed to have Wendy a big return text last night after the soccer game,

and I completely forgot to do it. But anyway, we got a lot coming up. Yeah, so we'll do it now. We'll make all our plans live. But coming soon, if you were curious where that was all sitting, we'll have some news for you very soon on all that. But this week, we're going to dive into an email that we skipped last week for a more time-based topic.

And today, we're getting back to it from a guy named Worried Dad. Wendy, I'll just go ahead and read what we got here. Dear Wendy and the boys. Well, that's me and Brian. That's right. We're the boys. I'm facing a difficult situation with my ex-wife, who seems to be influencing our children against me. They are 14, 12, and 7.

Our divorce, which was finalized three years ago, was fairly amicable, and we share custody, although, yes, I was the one who initiated the separation. Lately, though, when they come over, I don't really engage with me, or they don't really engage with me much. and the last two times, the 14-year-old, a boy, has refused to come at all. I asked my ex-wife what's going on, and she said, I should know why, but I don't. My youngest, a girl, told me I wasn't a good dad when I lived with them. Good Lord, I hate this. For the record, I always made sure to spend time with them growing up, putting them to bed and going to their games and practices and so forth. My wife and I separated because I didn't love her anymore.

There was no affair or anything like that. she's got to be uh sorry it's got to be the ex saying things to them then what do i tell her uh what can i do to get my kids back sincerely worried dad so i'm i have to guess this is a thing that happens a lot where one of the parents gets one of the parents has the the tendency to talk smack about the other one for all the resentments they may have and then the kids of course are going to hear it and yeah you're going to pit them against each other it feels like and, you know, I don't know. I don't know how common this is, Wendy,

but how do you want to attack it? Yeah. It's a crappy situation. And like you mentioned, not all that uncommon. I think, especially in my work with, you know, I'm talking to one of the divorced parents, right? I don't think there's anyone kind of with any sort of maturity who doesn't know this is not good for kids to hear negative talk about their other parents.

right yeah but even as i'm actively working with people they will slip up uh they'll feel terrible but they'll say something like well you know how you guys you know and it kind of comes out and you know usually they're pretty careful but we are like actively monitoring this and managing those feelings so that they are not you know bubbling out or stored up too much so they come out in the wrong times because these kids uh do not deserve any of that kind of behavior and i'm going to talk a little bit about why it's dangerous for a kid. But we're let's just with the email, let's just make the assumption that for some reason recently, uh, moms maybe engaging more in their mom is engaging more in talking badly about dad. Right. Um, there's a totally other side

that could be happening here, which I will also get into. But let's just start with, let's make that assumption, which is what the assumption of the email is, is that she must be doing something. Right. behind his back that's causing some of this. I just first want to note the kids' ages. Yeah. So 14, 12, and 7. Did it say when they were divorced? Three years ago.

11 was when this kid was the oldest kid. Yeah. There were 11, 9, and 4 during the divorce. Yeah. And that was finalized. So we're looking at 9, 10, probably when things started, you know, whatever. Okay. So you're looking at prime developmental years.

to have a major rupture in how you experience yourself in the world, right? And so as those things tend to do, you're just looking for civility and, and understanding and then whatever your brain development is at that point. This is why, you know, kids when they're two, three, and their parents get divorced have very different experiences than when they're 11, 12, and 13. And sometimes even older kids will have a huge struggle, 18, 19, 20, even. You're thinking, oh, well, they're grown. It's time, you know.

But some of this is just really about developmental stuff with an individual's identity. Right. So if you think about your parents as being the mirrors of who you are, right, they're the ones that tell you who you are, if you're good, bad, loved, unloved, all that. if you're safe, if you're fed, all those things. And so you just aren't thinking that they aren't going to be together. That's not a concept of kid understands until they're exposed to it. So it may be a friend's parents get divorced or, you know, at some point, lots of kids' parents will be divorced.

And now that's in the kid's head, he knows it exists. But there's nothing like it being your own parents, right? So this, here's the message, mom and dad don't love each other anymore. That is really challenging because you. you see yourself, especially developmentally, as an extension of them. So 9, 10, 8 to 11, I think is maybe the worst timing, and that's the most common timing for an oldest child, actually, with divorce. So I think it's the worst timing, and maybe because we see it the most, just because, again,

that very developmental stage of, like, trying to figure out who you are in relationship to others. and suddenly the others you mainly interact with are flooding. So this is why it's so important that parents do not badmouth the other. Is it super easy to alienate a child from another parent because you're giving them, especially if the one parent's following the rules and the other parent is on the slide telling you how terrible dad is and it's his fault and he tore this family apart. and because now what we do is we put a kid on the line to choose where their loyalty lies

when really it's between themselves and themselves right they're split in half here so what you're essentially doing is saying you're bad because dad's bad without intending to but that's that's the internalization so often that occurs and so picking the parent you need to love you and this they've showed you how to show them love it's let's rag on dad together or be on my side. So that's a very immature parent and even the best parents struggle to keep those lines sometime. Is this resonating with you?

Yeah. It's funny because some of this, I see this in friends anyway, but some of this is a problem even without the divorce. Like they, it's hard to explain. It's not like they're trying to pit kids against each other, but if there's, If they're struggling in their marriage or whatever, and kids feel it, feed off of it, whatever, they don't even know they're doing it, right? The parents don't even know they're doing it. And you end up creating alliances without even trying.

Maybe one kid relates to the mother more than she does the dad anyway. So that's already a thing. And then when you start doing that, then they just gravitate toward that. And then that can last almost forever, kind of, you know? Yeah, my parents got divorced when I was really young, maybe about a year, year and a half old, and my mom was always very, very careful not to bad mouth my dad while I was growing up. Now, she'll do it occasionally now because I've already established my relationship with my dad,

and there's, you know, there's not a chance that it's going to affect how I feel about them. And if anything, it's like, yeah, okay, yeah, dad does do that, ah, ha, ha, ha, kind of thing. But no, growing up, she, you know, she never, she never badmouthed him. I think it's, you know, she never, there's probably some jealousy or something in, in some situations. I don't know if that's in the emailers situation because we're only hearing one side of things, but a parent who's maybe jealous of how much the kids look like they prefer the other parent. And so they'll do what they can to kind of poison them against them. sometimes and often when like one's life is feeling pretty successful i mean i would ask

some questions here is like how is mom's life looking and versus yours so that that the sort of unfairness you left us you left me i'm miserable you know there's there's not a lot of power or a sense of power and so where do you have influence you have influence with the kids and it really is hitting where it would hurt your partner your ex-partner the most and But the saddest part is really the truest victims are just the kids. Like you're saying, your mom respected the development of your relationship with your dad, gave you room to do that. That's exactly what every kid needs.

They need the space to come to their own conclusions, to understand their relationship with their parent. It helps them in their own identity development as well as sort of those really core relationship developments. That's why it is so important and it's so. so hard to do, especially when things are more complex or complicated, right? And so we don't know what her deal is or why, but let's just assume it's happening. So the question that becomes, what does he do? He knows that's not appropriate behavior. I would first say, let's check yourself. Are you doing this in any form? Have you done that in any form? And then what do we do to remedy that very common mistake? Right. So when I'm working with a client and they're like, I

accidentally kind of lost it about how their dad handled this custody exchange and it wasn't you know pretty mild stuff and but they're really aware of this right and so we work through all right where's the appropriate place to put these feelings not the kid now let's actually apologize to your 11 year old and let them know that it's not their responsibility and you apologize for putting it on their shoulders so you can create some repair with your kids if you're aware of this so I, that's what I would first check with the emailer. What is, what is your role in this exact equation? Be honest about it, right? Because it's very possible that has been happening on both ends and kids get older and feel closer to mom or dad or for whatever reasons. And you didn't

make it a very safe place to begin with. So that's what's harsh is I look at this and I think, oh, this is really tough. But I also have never met a couple where one of them is innocent. 100% of the time, right? No one is perfect and the other one's making all the mistakes. And so really, I'll look in the mirror. What's been my role here? And what is my actual relationship historically with this oldest child been? And I noticed I'm looking at, let's see, where did it go?

Oh, I always made sure to spend time with them growing up, putting them to bed and going to their games and practices. and so forth. Okay. So great. Good dad award, right? Also not enough to raise a child. And so you might be justifying that you have done such a good job because compared to maybe the dude you work with it, work, you're a plus dad. But that individual connection with your kids is ultimately the thing that's most important to look through. So I would walk through each of the kids and what their relationship has been like and just see where this person, if they were my client,

would have actual power in connecting and what that might look like and what these kids' personalities are. So this is where we're past the point of some damage has been done. And so we would need some guidance probably if you can't figure out how to connect with the kids. Because legally, you can't, you can. At 14, it depends on where you live,

but for the most part, you're still obligated to spend time with the other parent. Some states it's 16, some countries, some countries it's 14. But do you want to flex your powers of legality to make a kid who doesn't want to spend time with you? Exactly. Exactly. So you'd have to figure out how to finesse that so you can have a chance to connect. Legally, you have to spend time with me. Exactly.

Which tells you, right, like that's out of fear or panic or but not out of actual the effort to connect. So you might have to get more creative. My first clue that kind of gets me like, is listing all the ways you were a good dad, is like they are good things. I'm not saying they're not good things. That feels like you're in justification mode

and that mode is not going to get you very far. So it's okay to be there for a minute, right? But then moving into where do you actually have a lot of choice in power here, rather than sticking in, I am powerless. Because I promise you, a 14-year-old, even though they're surly or whatever, and a 12-year-old or a 12-year-old desperately want to feel safe and loved and close to their death. I promise you, that's the case. And so recognizing you actually have biology all on your side here, but maybe there's some

things for you to work through and get better at so that you're able to. to do the connecting that it sounds like is lost. Because when kids are younger, they don't have a choice. They got to come to your house, right? They're going to do what you tell them to do. And so we're moving into more nuanced territory of older kids. That is just not how that works anymore. And so you might have to change up some ways that you're handling this.

I want to ask you guys what you would say in terms of handling the ex-wife. Is there something, how would you guys think this person? person should approach what they suspect is happening. I mean, this sounds hard, man. It does. It sounds like there's already, and maybe we're reading stuff into it, but if he's assuming that she's influencing the kids against him, it sounds like they don't have a great relationship.

Fairly amicable is the words he uses. And I'm guessing she might not even go that. I don't know if she would use the same term. But you've got to, you've got to approach it well again my opinion you approach it with kid gloves and you just very diplomatically say hey i noticed you know oldest son doesn't want to hang out with me do you know what's going on i know you know i know you say that i should know i honestly don't and and i apologize but what you know what um how are they how are they feeling about my time with them as

in the house with them as their as their parent versus now on what yeah it's geez going with some humility yeah i would go on with some humility you've got to yeah you got to try to disarm it like go in yeah if you if you go in all you know blazing angry tons of blazing yeah don't do that go in there with like um i don't know just try to diffuse it i don't know how you do that hat in hand and just say, you know, what's, uh, what's going on the... Because she, too, don't you think, no matter how frustrated you might be, you also want, you want your kids to thrive. For sure.

They're the, you know, that is the end result. It's less, it's not necessarily about, I want them to spend time with me. I want them to be okay. Yeah, right. And that angle with her hat and hand kind of thing might, might really be, great step. If you're really angry, though, you're not going to be able to do that. Like, if this kids are all the, because everybody's pain points would be get, would be hit here. There's nobody who doesn't have a button that would be about like, okay, my kid doesn't want

spend time with me. And it's she's easy scapegoat for that rather than your actual relationship with your kid. And so we got to, you know, be pointing the finger at her first. That that's natural. Hey, fine. But let's talk to. a third party about that first. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And we're going to say that,

that it doesn't sound like they did any sort of couples therapy or else a lot of these issues might have seen daylight, you know. Right. Right. And some of the conflict that happens when kids are younger during a separation and divorce is very different than the conflict that can happen later. So it's, it's sadly not the same tactics work throughout. You know, and it'd be interesting.

I'm going to tell you, this can't be accurate, but I'm going to say it's 100% of the time. But 100% of the time, when I meet with one partner, I will hear the stories. I will see them as, oh, wow, that is really hard what they've gone through because they're explaining themselves, right? And I'm explaining from their intention and their experience. And then I meet with the other partners separately.

I will hear the exact same story and have the exact same feeling. Like, oh, my gosh, this other side. Whoa, that is terrible, you poor thing. And so the fact that that happens every time, I kind of love because it just proves this point that I think is accurate, which is everyone is self-justified, right? And the story throughout their system, their own mind, it's typically to preserve that they're good people and they didn't mean for bad things to happen, but this other person must have created it. And so, and these are people trying to work it out, by the way. so then when I get them together and no one everyone realizes they don't get that I'm not a referee and this isn't a boxing match and that everyone's valid right but we all just come from our

own eyeballs and let's see if we can find different ways to to figure out these feelings and half of them are fear and hurt and then they express themselves as anger or loneliness and disconnection and they express themselves as criticism or whatever it might be. So, you know, it's like a total different reframe, but it is 100% of time I watch couples bring in similar fights, similar stories from that the other one would also relate. Man, you would think you were talking to strangers, how convincing both are that they're right. And so that is, that's a couple trying to work it out. This is a couple absolutely split up for years now. There is no motivation to work it out except for these kids and this is where you know working through the anger whatever

else is going on for you so you can approach her in the healthiest way would be really valuable because in the essence in essence for the kids sake right right um so i have a resource that i think is just the best i probably shared this before i love wendy resources they're always landing resources. It's called upto-parents.org. Okay. And it is basically just going to tell you all the right things to do. You enter in your, here's the situation.

They'll tell you. Do this, don't do this. And, you know, what is, what is, they take a very child-centered, best interest for child. And what I've liked about it historically is I can. send two very angry parents to the same place and have them start to figure out how to do it the right way. It's just good information. Wow.

Yeah. And this just core thing we talked about, like if you go to the web page, it's like, parent conflict is dangerous to children. Yep. Yeah. Commonly parents do best for themselves when their focus is building family peace for their children. Yep.

It's just true. Those two main things you're going to see. tenets right there, basically. The tent holes of, yeah. Oh, that's great. Wow. It's got a lot of just great resources. I haven't watched the three sisters speak to millions of parents, but I'm guaranteeing that's probably good.

Because when you hear from the children themselves, it's kind of like when you hear from children who are forced to do travel sports or their parents are screaming on the sidelines, are you hear from children because parents get so caught up in their own stuff because of course it's a very complicated place to be you're still trying to make a living you're maybe starting new relationships you're you know all the things it's it's incredibly difficult so let's not do it alone or do it with guesswork um so i think this is a great resource for anybody and especially if your kids are younger to just really do this early on it's going to save a lot a heartache for everybody.

So I would recommend that. Yeah, it seems cool. It's also free. All this stuff is, you know, it's just a free resource. I love the Internet when it was more like this. Jeez, no kidding. That felt like the old days, you know? Yeah.

It's been around for a good while. And a client, actually, I think, listens to the show. Sorry is the one that referenced it to me. Yeah. That's pretty cool. And I've used it for years and years. It's great. So up to parents.org is the website.

It used to be called. Proud to Parent.org, but they changed it. No, you're looking at something else. I have up to parents. No, I know, but it used to, I'm just saying that. Oh, I see what you're saying. Used to be proud to parent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Used to be that. I don't know what changed or why they changed it, but they did. Proud is a weird word, so maybe that was it. Yeah, I think this name is hard better. Yeah. I like that better. Cool, yeah, go check that out. And listener, when you hear this, let us know what you think.

I don't know. I just feel like I'm kind of aligned with Brian on this. on the approach, like just humility is hard to find when you're in a conflict, especially when it's your own kids and you're worried about them being pitched against you, and you're just going to want to go in there with emotions, but I don't know, maybe the best way to disarm it is to go in there without them and just be willing to listen. And I'm going to say something really controversial real quick to end this, sorry.

Go ahead, please. Is that you owe them this? Well, I can't believe you said that. What? I know. I'm hanging up on Wendy. Listen, it's not your fault. You stopped loving your wife. Maybe you never did. Maybe there's other issues there. I don't know any of the story to have any reason to say that. Other than that happens, it does happen. But the person, and this is why I'm saying this, because it's to show you how much power. If you can let go of the pride of this, what I just said, and actually recognize it as the influence. that you do have, but you owe them to work hard so that your kids are okay because you made the decision to create the situation that occurs now. Now, you staying and being miserable, probably not a great choice either, right?

So I'm not saying you haven't made a wrong choice, but what I am saying is you did make the choice and that will create an inequality kind of forever in some of these things. So if you could just kind of own a little bit of like, yeah, I can do. this right um and for them and you know give give her a little credit for managing life being left right that's hard to do i know it might take you being a bigger person than you are but try yeah so if we get an email back that i mean do it for the kids do it for the children to hear uh how how this goes and if he's able to uh to to to hear and understand what how the kids are perceiving it and maybe it's not coming from the mom at all. Maybe the kids, you know, misunderstood something he did or he's

misremembering something that he did or didn't do. He's also the one, and we know whether it was for good reasons or not, he will always be the one that initiated the breakup. He's a said that said as much in his email. I fell out of love with her. I didn't want to, you know, I initiated it. Well, they're always going to see you as the initiator. And I think that's enough to create some of those divides. You know, they're going to resent it. The onus will be on you to do. some work that the wife will never, the ex-wife will never have to do. And so when couples can say it's mutual, kids are very confused by that. Kids will often have fantasies. Their parents will get back together. Like there's a lot of complicated stuff that can occur, but the mutual decision

usually sort of equalizes or clarifies some things. But when one leaves another, kids will harbor that for a long, long time and struggle with lots of different things for that fact. Right. So this is just facts. This isn't a judgment or anything like that. It's more like, okay, well, as this person who plays this role, I might need to step up and do more than ride on the coattels that I put the kids to bed and went to their games. There's more parenting to do. And, you know, when I work with adults in their 30s and 40s as we are talking about healing from childhood stuff, you know, a huge portion of it is just parents immaturity. and their their skills emotionally that just weren't there.

And sometimes that's really hard when those parents do eventually develop emotionally more mature skills. They're like, but my parents are so great now, but I have these wounds. I don't get it. And it's because we got to work on what hurt you then, even though they have changed, which is great. And then the hardest one is when the parents never change and never grow. So be different and grow and mature. and do some work here and I think you'll reap the benefit with real relationships with these kids as they go forward because four years from now that kid doesn't have to ever talk to you again

yeah that's true and that's terrifying to all of us and when we're we're afraid we maybe don't behave the best oh yeah and so to really work on working with the fear and understanding what it's trying to tell you and fear's a real poo-poo head it turns out fears it turns out Yeah, turns out fear can make you do stuff you wouldn't do otherwise. It's the mind killer I hear. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Somewhere, someplace. Wendy, this is great.

We'll see what kind of follow up we get from him. And like I said, we'll keep you guys informed and what's going on with the show. Anything you want to say about Be Better You at the moment and plans? No better you. I meant no better you. But Be Better. We tried. Ken Grant.

Yeah. That was a URL Squat. to remember for sure. Holy cow. People are weird. No, it's good. We are planning and building. It's going to be really fun. So I'll let you know as things get a little more spicy. And yeah, in the meantime, feel free to if anyone wants to throw in their two cents. I have a little survey they can fill out. And that would be great. I'll send that to you just to get in the thing. We're also looking for, we didn't really ask for it explicitly. But if you guys want to weigh in on the kind of topics you want to hear on the therapy show season two we're taking

suggestions or just you know what do you think is a meaningful thing in your life and that may help us shape the kind of topics we hit so keep those coming as well you can send those to the morning stream at gmail.com sorry brian what are you going to say oh i was just going to say you know bigger stuff that's that's way bigger than can be discussed in the 30 minutes that uh that we've got here with wendy oh yeah we're going to go deep so uh keep that stuff coming wendy I hope you have a fantastic week. Truly. We'll see you later.

I talked to Wendy a lot this. We usually don't, you know, like week to week, it's usually Thursday that I talk to Wendy, but because of my mom's stuff, it's like been kind of constant. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, you probably, yeah. She's probably sick of us by now. My mom's doing good. She's on oxygen and their levels are good and she's at home and John's now has a cough.

So hopefully that doesn't turn into what she had. All right, let's get out of here. Before we do, remind people again, Coverville today, noon. Lenny Kravitz. Today, 12 noon, Mountain Time, Twitch.TV slash Coverville. A couple sets. It'll be a slightly shorter show because I've got to get downtown for a meeting, but it's all the best stuff.

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you'll find it at frogpans.com slash schedule. It's going to do it for us. Brian, let's play a song and get the F out. You bet Jonathan rode in and said, Hey, there, Snowball and Brain. My best friend and ex-wife Tiffany is turning 35 on May 30th. that's today. In celebration, I'd like to request an upbeat cover of the Jefferson Starship anti-masterpiece. Disasterpiece is what I'd call it. We built this city. Yes, it's an

awful cheeseball of a song, a shining example of why designed by committee is generally a horrible idea. We hold these truths to be self-evident. But she loves the over-the-top schlock of it all and lights up whenever it comes across the speakers. If you can't get on May 30th any time after that is fine. She genuinely loves late birthday presents. Then they go on. to say Tiffany. After all that, here we are and here will be. Happy birthday. I love you so much. Mises Forever. Love the show, though. Very, very fine show. The best show, frankly. A lot of people tell me. They did request that for me to say it like that. All right. Good. Jonathan in Savannah, extra lettuce in Discord and social. P.S. Can we test the ship's phasms

and have some random Daryl clips? Yes. So phasers first. Here. Let's test the ship's phasees. And then to get random, Daryl, let's see. Let me just pull up his name, and let's just choose this one. Chokermatic, choker. All right. That was random. I heard that one.

That's really funny. That was his old, like, when he was a teenager, recordings or whatever. Yeah, playing with the tape deck. Oh, my God, too funny. I think it's the one where he barf noises. I can barf and talk at the same time. Yeah. That's horrifying.

Why was he ever... Horrendous. Why was he allowed to do it? I don't know. And why save that recording? I keep everything, man. I try to. Yeah, that's true.

There's some stuff that I wish I still had that I recorded as a kid when I was like, thinking, oh, I'm going to become a DJ. Here's my tape of doing DJ stuff. Do you want to hear the oldest Ibit clip I have that has your name on it? Yeah, yeah. Let's see. It's probably from when I was on ELR, right? Yeah, I'm trying to think of it.

I don't know if I pulled a clip from any of that, though. Let's see. It's not giving, oh, I have to do it, okay, here we go. I need to go back and listen to that first episode where you had me on ELR, and I talked to you guys for the first time. That just would have been crazy.

I don't think this is this old, but I'll play it. This is the wrong thing. No, that's not you at all. Yeah, that's definitely not me, but thank you for. Yeah, here we go. That one. Come about a mile.

I don't know what. I don't know what you're even saying. Can I buy out? I don't know either. I don't even know what I'm saying there. It's worse than let's take a salve as far as like fast talking. Yesterday we played was for J.K. Grammer. I wanted to hear it.

Let's see if I can find that Ken Crats. Oh, Ken Crats video. Yeah, it's right here. I have all those. I have about a dozen of those on my phone still that come up every once in a while. I only have the one here. Why don't you come over and I'll overrule your objections. Half of it is the fact that that video, that weird app that let you put your face,

your mouth on people's faces. Right, right. I don't remember what that was. Anyway, good times. Well, happy birthday to your 35 year old friend person. No kidding. Yeah, Jonathan, well, let's get a request out to them right now. This is a cover of, we built this city.

but it's a good one. This is a band called the X-Zerts. It's spelled like X-Serts, as in Retton. Oh, okay. So X, like you used to be a fan of the certs, but now you're... No, like X-Z-Z-N used to be a Twitter. Oh, that kind of X.

I hate that X. That kind of X, C-E-R-T-S, yeah, the Exerts. This is from an album called, so no one told you life was going to be this way. Guess what other song they do a cover of on this 2020 album. Shocked. They do this cover of starships. We Built This City.

Going out to Jonathan and Tiffany, here is We Built This City. Say you don't know me or recognize my face. Say you don't care who goes to that kind of place. Knee deep in the hoopla, sinking in your fight. Too many runways, eating up the night. Marconi plays the mumma, listen to the radio. Don't you remember? We built this city on rock and roll

We built this city We built this city on rock and roll Build this city We built this city on rock and roll Someone's always playing Corporation games Who cares their arms changing Corporation names

We just want to dance here Someone stole this stage They call us irresponsible Riders off the page Marconi plays the mind Listen to the radio Remember, we built this city on rock and roll. I built this city.

We built this city on rock and roll. Built this city. We built this city on rock and roll. Just another Sunday in a tired old street. Police have got the joke hold We just lost the bleed Who counts the money Underneath the bar

Who writes the reckon ball Into our guitars Don't tell us you need us Because we're the ship of fools Looking for a metal cut Coming through your schools Marconi plays the mamba Listen to the radio

Don't you remember We built this city on rock and roll We built this city We built this city on rock and roll, built this city. We built this city on rock and roll, built this city, we built this city on rock and roll, built this city on rock and roll, built this city, This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes, get more at frogpant.com.