The Morning Stream - TMS 2656: Nose Raisins

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

LEAVE BULLWINKLE ALONE! Don't Moose Around. My fancy spider-man shirt. Practice Peter. Looking for the purple banana. Air Chimpanezes. Nilly Wellson. Constant Glance. Stinky Little Weirdos. Door handl...e tooth removal. WW2 Rain Delay. That's No Eggplant. Super ketchup packets. Dip and Squeeze is my Hall and Oats cover band. Just Pooping It Out With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 Don't moose around. My fancy Spider-Man shirt. Practice, Peter. Looking for the purple banana. Air chimpanzees. Neely Wellson. Constant glance. Stinky little weirdos.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Door handle tooth removal. WW2 rain delay. That's no egg plant. Super ketchup packets. Dip and squeeze is my haul and oats cover band. Just pooping it out with Wendy. And more on this episode of the morning stream. What the hell are you talking about Frankenstein?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Don't go blaming the beer. The morning stream. I must break you. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for June 6th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Ibbott. Brian, Brian Nibb.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah. Good to be here for the morning stream. You're ready to be here. Boy, that would be an annoying way to talk, wouldn't it, all day? That would be horrible. let's not let's not ever do that no we just we learned well it was a good to learn a little lesson before we get to go in here that we'll never do that ever again all right everybody all right speaking of things we never want to do again i don't want to offend anybody again so yesterday i said some stuff on the show that
Starting point is 00:02:12 uh some people took very offensively and i didn't realize it was going to be that big of a deal um but i want to apologize right up front for uh some discussion that happened around my neighbor he was hanging some laundry out on his thing and it was all about ladies panties and I think I took it too far in describing some of them. It was mostly a size issue. I was
Starting point is 00:02:36 not trying to give anyone any crap. I was really just, it was all about just observing this, what I thought was strange behavior from my neighbor and trying to make sense of it. So, so big sorry, I did not mean to do that. It was not out to offend anybody yesterday
Starting point is 00:02:52 with that discussion. So please accept my apology for that. We don't fat shame here at all. It was a comedic way to describe panties. Yeah. I mean, I've only ever, I mean, I have to admit it's built into me. The comment
Starting point is 00:03:07 specifically was me calling them granny panties, which implies, I guess, old large lady pants or something, or underwear. And I don't know. That's just in me. So it's not in me anymore. I'll be more thoughtful about using a comment like that in the future. See, and I
Starting point is 00:03:24 take granny panties i don't take them as a size thing i take them as a coverage issue like i think of granny panties maybe let's let's shift some of that hate towards me scott yeah uh let's have let's have brian take the reins of this horse for a email ledger ass it's uh hunter at uh rayvagus dot com no it's uh um yeah think of them as just like an extra coverage issue it's not the thing that you're going to wear if you're going on um uh a date where you're expecting your your partner to see you walking around to them. It's the, I just want some full-on coverage, every looking cranny covered, no cinching, no bunching, no, none of that.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, to me, there's just an era. They're just a thing like that. But anyway, I just, I feel bad and I don't want, you know, we have a lot of amazing women in our audience. This is not aimed at anybody. This is just me using the wrong words. So apologies, everybody, and hope you can forgive me for that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Sure, by the way. Brainbo, I thank you very much. Yes, I need to, not panties. I need to pronounce them as draws. Yeah, you draw. Yeah, your drawers. Get your drawers. And I'm trying to think what we call them is my mom probably referred to it.
Starting point is 00:04:34 They were probably panties. Yeah, it's, it is one of those words that it's. I don't like it. I've never liked it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not quite like, you know, saying, oh, I don't want to say the word moist right around panties. But, like, saying, you know, webinar.
Starting point is 00:04:51 or quick, quick. Yeah, these are some of these words. Synergy. Doily, gymnasium, all of it. We don't like any of it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, Knickers.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I like knickers. No, knickers are fun. Yeah, knickers are fun. That's the thing we could take from our foreign friends. All right, we're going to do a little history today. You also got to say that very carefully too, yes. Oh, knickers, do you? Oh, yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That thing is very adjacent to a word we don't want to say out loud. It is, exactly, yes. Or in private, ever. We don't want to say it. No, no. It's not nice. Not a good word. All right, check this out.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yesterday is history today. We haven't done one of these in a bit, and I thought today was interesting. Well, yeah. There's a lot of talk about France because there's the Normandy anniversary and all that stuff's going on. Can film festival just ended, you know, France. They're in the news. And found some interesting stuff about France. For example, today in 1716, it's a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:05:47 The French, I just, I'm going to blame the French for something. something. The French transport, the first African slaves to Louisiana. Our entire nightmare of American slavery started because the French sent a boat over with slaves. I blame the French. All right, there's one thing. Then in 1944, Operation Overlord, which I just mentioned, D-Day begins as the 156,000 strong Allied expedition force lands in Normandy, France during World War II. Did you know, though, that it was delayed for rain? Did you know that? Oh, really? It was a rain. delay like uh yeah we can't storm the beach uh it's raining yeah let's put it off a couple days i think that's freaking hilarious that they did that funny yeah i heard we're uh postponed on account
Starting point is 00:06:31 of rain yeah sorry like how do you still have the element of surprise if you postpone it based on rain did the germans just know everything was coming they probably did yes they must have yeah because they had the little pill boxes were they waiting out there like i don't i don't think they're going to show up maybe they got scared from the rain Ah, puny French and Americans. Rain is nothing, y'avour? Okay, and then let's move up, let's jump up and see if any of this is connected. So we have, you know, slave trade begins here in the States in earnest.
Starting point is 00:07:05 World War II's biggest offensive happens. And then finally, in 1998, the TV sitcom, drama, dromedy, sex in the city, premiered on HBO in the U.S. I'm not saying these things are connected. No, no. I'm just saying, you know, it's a weird. I didn't realize, so I knew that today also happens to be Tina's and my 32nd anniversary. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Congratulations. What are you going to? 32 freaking years. Are you going to do anything big? Yeah, we're going out to dinner tonight at a place called the keg. It's a fancy, schmancy place. Yeah. Does sound fancy.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's why I'm wearing my best Spider-Man button-up shirt. I mean, look, no. good one for this. They'll kick you out if you have one there in case you don't have one. They'll give it to you. That's right. Exactly, sir. We know it's five sizes too large, but we have a nicer Spider-Man button-up shirt than we'd like you to wear. And a jacket that looks like you're the ringleader at the Barnum and Bailey's Circus. Yeah, it's that or, it's that or you have to leave. So, that's great. We got married on D-Day, but we didn't realize when Sex and the City premiered that it was actually on our anniversary. It had been six
Starting point is 00:08:15 years into our marriage. And we did watch that show that family guy lovingly called the story of an aging hooker and her three daughters. Wow. I've not heard that episode. That's pretty funny. Isn't that that show about the lady hooker and her three daughters? That's a weird Peter, but I like it. It's a good deal. Yeah, I don't do my, I don't practice Peter very much. I like it. Stewie, yes. But, I don't practice Peter. I don't practice Peter. Well, congratulations, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I had no idea. It was today. That's fantastic. Congratulations. What was the day of the week that you got married if you go back? Oh, I'm sure it was a Saturday. It was a... See, I don't hold with these people like my niece who got married on a freaking Thursday morning.
Starting point is 00:09:04 What is that about? On a Thursday morning, that is kind of nuts. I get it, though. You probably get a much better rate from the place you're having your wedding. I'm actually glad that... that coming up in October, my niece is getting married on a Thursday night because it allows me the next day to fly out to the southeast Tadpool meetup. Oh, nice timing.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Thank goodness they aren't doing the Saturday because I would have had to cancel. Yeah, no, well done, everybody with the timing and the whatnot. Yeah, because I have to officiate. So I actually have to be there at that wedding. I've actually got to connect the two. Did you do the online thing? I'm going to, yeah. I guess I probably should do that.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I don't know. It takes 15 minutes and you're approved right away, right? It's really easy. It's so stupid, simple. It almost makes me mad how easy it is. Why is it so easy to get the power to join two people in holy matrimony and so difficult to switch your carrier from AT&T to T-Mobile? No, you're 100% right. What does that take four hours?
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's one of those life's conundrums. It doesn't make any damn. sense to me how like when I approach that for the first time and someone asked me to marry them as my nephew and I've done what four cents or something it's all based on the exact same one by the way the same card I got in the mail I'm thinking oh it's marriage it's a big deal we're always legislating it and saying who can or can't get married and if you're not married all these tax things go away like all this important surrounding marriage the institution almost as long as old as time. And yet Scott can get online and in less than 10 minutes, I'm a ministerer can just marry
Starting point is 00:10:48 people left and right. Like it's not a problem unless I'm in Vegas. They won't let me do it there. It's crazy. It's crazy. Isn't that weird? It's so weird. Yeah, it is really weird. It's, it's, uh, it really puts our, puts things into a, uh, strange perspective as far as what our priorities are as a, as a, as a society. Yeah. And look, I think, I think marriage is super important. I think marriage is a big deal. All of the stuff's true. But if you're going to make it, If you're going to make it so hard for me to get a driver's license, but make it so easy for me to do this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:17 I guess people aren't going to get killed on a freeway if I do marriages, but... No, it's true. That's a good point. Yeah, I don't know. It just seems weird. I've been working... I'm trying to figure out what my... You know, we're seeing them Sunday,
Starting point is 00:11:30 my niece and her husband to be, and trying to decide talking with them, like, all right, how straight do you want me to do this? Like, do you want it just to be so super-duper traditional? Do you want me to have some fun with it? Do you want me to go like, you know, dearly beloved, we all gathered here today, day, day, day, day,
Starting point is 00:11:50 get to this thing called life. I want you forward life, it meets forever. That's a mighty long time, but I'm going to tell you there's something else. I love it. Oh, I think I did it. I did it way too early. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Look, when you're doing prints, you got to, you know, there's room for air. The elevator tries to break us down. Does he sing, does he sing look for the purple banana until they throw us in the truck. Oh, is that what I sing to that song? That can't be the line, can't it? Look for the purple banana until they throw us in the truck.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I hope that's it. Have I always been singing that line incorrectly? If you're wrong, I don't want to be right. I'm looking at up. Yeah, let's take a look, see what you can find. Something about a hotel lobby and Nikki in a magazine. Nope, not that one. Nope, different song, different song.
Starting point is 00:12:35 If you don't like the world you're living in, take a look, at least you got friends. See, call my old lady for a friendly word. Picked up a truck on the floor That's all I heard Nothing's in it Yeah look for Okay
Starting point is 00:12:46 Let's go crazy Let's get nuts Let's look for the purple banana Until they put us in the truck Let's go Wow It is really look Look for the purple banana
Starting point is 00:12:55 I don't know what that What that means Is that? And then put you in the truck That means like the crazy truck Like you're insane The crazy truck Right
Starting point is 00:13:02 So you're basically The purple banana Looking for the purple banana And when you find it You realize that you've gone crazy And they'll put you the truck i have no idea that's a weird lyric you know yeah i think you're brave to put banana in your song i know there's some people might have an allergy yeah it's just such a weird thing to
Starting point is 00:13:24 say in any context banana's a funny word right it doesn't it doesn't make me take your song seriously i hear you say purple banana and i go what are we what are we doing here what do you right exactly yeah yeah yeah still a great song though it's a great song it's a it's one of the best songs there's another there's another thought like do I do it beloved this this whole marriage is a sham rigged it's rigged purple bananas I love Jared as we call him we call him Jared we call him groomy Jared oh my gosh there was amazing Jared who was the subway guy Jared what was his last name Jared Fogel. A known pedophile, Jared Fogel.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There was an episode of Smiling Friends this season just recently, last couple episodes. And they played out a big, long, Jared Fogel joke that was equal parts, very uncomfortable and really funny. You guys have to watch Smiling Friends, I'm telling you. That is one of the great, I mean, it's a certain, it's adult swim as hell. Like, this is tailor-made for what adult swim is. It's what it is. Like, think Rick and Morty, think Venture Brothers, all that stuff, how it fits into that one category. This is one of those, but it is so freaking weird and funny and engaging.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And I can't even explain why I like it so much. Uncomfortable is what I feel like one of the checkboxes on the adult swim list. Like, it has to be uncomfortable. Got to be uncomfortable. The art has to be a little weird. or something about it has to be disconcerting or something. And then the third thing, what's the third thing? They've got to have swears occasionally.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's how you do your late night animation. Anyway, highly recommend it. I don't know why the big pause between 2000 and the new season this year, but it's so good. So good. Cool. All right. I got an email here from Evan in Michigan who says the following. Scott helped me with trivia was a subject.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And I couldn't believe it. I just had to read this. I couldn't believe it. Oh, yeah. No kidding. I helped him with trivia. Are you freaking kidding me? He says, hey, salacious crumb and Boba Fett. I went to trivia last night, and I'm pretty sure I was the only person in the entire place that knew the state bird of Utah was the Seagull. Thanks for helping me win some points for my team, Scott. Can I get a honk? Ah, yes, you can get a honk awe. Sorry, I don't have it queued. Hold on a second. Here we go. He's basically, he's to love the show of him from Michigan. Yeah, that comes up a lot because we have that whole mythical story about how seagulls ate a bunch of crickets.
Starting point is 00:16:06 and save the crop or whatever. Right, right. And it's hard not, when you hear that story, it's hard not to remember it. It is such a weird. I mean, for a place that has no seas, having seagulls just seems like a weird, weird choice. And it's a California seagull.
Starting point is 00:16:22 That's the official bird. And yet we've taken it as our state bird. It's even got the name of another state in its name. Yeah. And it's a rat bird, dude. People say pigeons are rat birds. Have you seen a seagull lately? Yeah. Those are rat birds, dude. They'll eat anything. They'll hang out in parking lots until you drop a fry and then they'll swarm you like a freaking, you know, mob.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But you know what? I can't think of. There are a few things I can think of that are, that are, feel more peaceful than laying in a hammock on the beach or on a towel on the beach and just watching the seagulls like practice riding the currents up and down. So they stay kind of still in the air, but they're kind of moving. You know, there's a good sound to them, too. The way they squawk is cool. Yeah. That's a crow. That's a crow. What does it? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Let's try a Seagull sound effect. Here we go. I got one. I ran so far away. They may as well be air chimpanzees, right? Yeah. Just loud ass mother effers. When we went to Australia, we went to, we would grab some fish and chips.
Starting point is 00:17:33 and hang out in Sydney Key, which really, you know, you look at that and it should be pronounced Sidney Quay. Come on now. Sydney Key. And there was, you know, we grabbed a park bench. We're sitting there. We were just amazed by these ketchup packets that they had that were like, they looked like the things similar to what you dip chicken nuggets in where it's like a reservoir of ketchup. Yeah. Pull off the lid or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, but if you break it, if you turn it the other way, you can squeeze it and get a really fine line of ketchup. So like it worked both ways.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You could either dunk it or you could so much better than these dumb ketchup packets that we had in the... That sounds amazing. I've never seen this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really cool, like super ketchup packets. Anyway, and so we're sitting there eating and there's like this little seagull comes up and I'm like, oh, all right, cool, I'll give them a little french fry. And sorry, give him a chip. And instantly, we're swarmed, and I mean swarmed by several dozen more seagulls, like all clustered around us. How do you think they communicate that?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Because it feels like they don't say much. Yeah, I don't know. I think the other seagulls are just watching. They have good eyes, man. They're basically dinosaurs anyway. They're basically velociraptors. Basically, yes. Yeah, smell a little chip and they're on their way.
Starting point is 00:18:58 remember that time we were we where were we saw oh you were here we were at uh five guys and we watched that guy barf in the bushes remember that there was a dude oh yes oh my god who are we with it was a guy who was getting a computer from you were doing some computer yeah something what was that who was with us i only remember you i don't i remember who the other i know there was another person i don't remember who they were they were local oh oh it's uh matt Matt Anderson from... Matt Anderson, right. Oh, my God. Yeah, what was his, uh, his, his, um, wow character. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He was great, though. He was a good... Rated with him all the time, yeah. He was a great healer. He was always healing everybody. Can they, I can't think of his character name, but Matt was there. I haven't talked to him in a while. Anyway, we see this guy barf in a bush, and then we watch a swarm of, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:19:46 150 seagulls all just descended on this guy's barf patty and ate his barf patty. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty gross. while you're trying to, you know, explain what this weird pink sauce is. Oh, right. Because in Utah, we're, we all, we all think it's normal. But you go out of this state and you're like, people don't know what you're asking for.
Starting point is 00:20:04 So it's called the Heinz tomato ketchup dip and squeeze. And you can get them here now, the dip and squeeze tomato ketchup. Diff and squeeze. So is that, um, it's a thing I can just get, like, I can buy that. You can get a whole big ass box of them from Amazon and, uh, let's see here. Oh, yeah, look at those. Oh, I've never seen these before. This is cool.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, and so you can either tear off the top and get a really fine line of ketchup, or you just tear off the bottom, and you can dip your fries into that. There you go, Chad. There's a picture. They even give you a simple to easy-to-use description here. You can either dip to peel. Tear to squeeze. This is cool.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, yeah. You know, it reminds me of, I'm sure you had these classes. I had a college courses that were all about designing better versions of this kind of shit. So it was like a pop can or a soda can that does, you know, I don't know what the deal was. Like you don't have to lift it up or I can't remember or it's self seals when you're done. I can't remember what it was. Exactly. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Right. Like coming up with coming up with any other better kind of marketing idea. We did. And the whole time I'm thinking, what company is kind of benefiting from having a 30 person think tank? per class right you've in five of these a week with different students you know 150 person thing tank you have ideas for free oh here's a bunch of ideas for free take them yeah i always wondered about that too if some like maybe this pat ketchup thing came from a class it could have been yeah i don't know we also did you have to design a three-dimensional trade show display yes we had to do that
Starting point is 00:21:40 um i remember hating that because it was we had to do scale like it at scale had to be a full-blown thing. And I remember thinking, this is the reason I don't ever want to do trade shows. I ended up doing some trade shows. I know you have as well. Yeah. Oh yeah. Tons. And I hated them. I really hated them because we were, the companies I worked for were too cheap to have anyone else set it up. We had to do it. Yeah, same. I hate that. And the day that you do set up, so the worst one for me was New Orleans. We were in the New Orleans convention. Center. And it was a four-day conference trade show for the newspaper industry. And we went in on the day zero, basically the day before the conference to do setup. Because they want to save money, the convention center doesn't turn the air conditioning on the day that you come in and put everything together. So it is 120 degrees inside there. Muggy, hot. And you're trying to put together
Starting point is 00:22:44 this this expando back wall that that you know this like curved back wall that all of your materials will will velcro on to oh and giving me that's such a nightmare giving me PTSD I really hated it was such a pain and you had to be there super early and then you're on your feet all day and my feet were killing me after a while like it's one thing to walk a show floor all day you can deal with that you have movement but when you're standing and pivoting like it didn't even matter that we were it was for computers and the cool thing was this is 1990s six or seven was the first one i did and we had three of our computers that we built all playing the the um basically demo but it was like the the the the shareware version of the first level of quake
Starting point is 00:23:31 nobody nobody had seen this before this was like this big deal and so we were the only set up on the on the show floor and it was all like local computer vendors there but we were the only ones with the quake demo and some people are lined up playing quake all day and that's cool but i stood there too long yeah and i went home and my feet died that day they died yeah and if you're and if your company was too cheap to pay for uh having enough employees they were having people set it up for you they were probably too cheap to pay for the uh 80 dollar a day up or 60 a day upgrade for extra padding underneath the carpet of the of the uh booth Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You could pay for... 100%. So you stood on cement is what you did. Yep. When our CEO would come to the trade show, we'd get that. So we were always kind of hoping the CEO was coming along because, like, oh, we're going to get the good padding underneath the carpet. Yeah, we just never hated it. And I probably only did four total, but I hated every single one of those things.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah. I had one in Orlando where a disgruntled employee. Like, the one in Orlando, this was when the company was doing really well. We had 20-something people working for us at that point. Still a small company. But they decided to take eight of us out to the trade show. Oh, wow. And just as kind of like a perk for a lot of people who don't typically get to go.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And one of them, unbeknownst to us, had done some testing on the software the night before. And because he's kind of a, you know, smart-me-dude, he's putting in things like Joe F-face, you know, but doing the actual F-word or shitballs for. you know, what company you work for when he's entering in all of the personal data. So they get to the trade show first thing and they pull up the demo to demo to a customer. And it's all of these names and all these like horrible names this guy put in. And that guy actually got fired during a trade show. During the show? Not like he didn't have to go back and face the music at home.
Starting point is 00:25:34 He got fired there. No, no, he got fired. It was Terry, Terry Logan. Oh, I probably shouldn't say his whole name. But I actually ended up doing some freelance for the new company that he works for. Oh, really? He's really, really nice guy. And it was an easy mistake to make.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Sure. But he basically, not during trade show hours, but after hours that night, they kind of took him into a room at the hotel and said, hey, you know, this was, you didn't even do any thinking about this. You didn't consider what was going to happen, how this is going to look to customers. and he'd had some issues before. This wasn't, you know, out of the blue kind of thing. Sounds like he was heading toward that. We're rewarding you for your good work by bringing you into a trade show where you're going to be fired and send home early from said trade show. Dang, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It was great for me because I was sharing a room with them and then I got my own room to myself. Talk about silver. That's a silver lining right there. That is silver lining right there. Yeah. Wow. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, look, it's our, we like to talk about our past, everybody. For sure. A quick note about TMS swag bags. You may have come to Vegas and thought, oh man, we got such cool swag bags while we're here. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:26:44 We have a few extras left. And for those who weren't able to come, good news, these limited quantity 2024 Viva TMS Vegas swag packs are available for a short time until they're gone. I put them up on the store. If you go to frogpants.com slash store, they're up there.
Starting point is 00:27:02 They are also discounted. And available now, There's pictures of exactly what's in them. A couple pictures anyway. My daughter also made a very cool video that I haven't put up any of it. I know. It's really cool. So she made that.
Starting point is 00:27:15 That was awesome. Yeah. She did a great job. I was wondering because I saw the tattoos and I'm like, well, that ain't Scott's arm. No, definitely not my arm. Not yet anyway, I guess. I don't know. I'm probably never getting a tattoo.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Who am I kidding? Oh, really? I don't know what I want. I can never decide. I never know. Tattoos that you have to put together like the Wonder Twins. Like we're going to be one big giant mad fold in and you won't get the joke unless we're both in the same place.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Oh, shit. Putting our arms against each other. That's amazing. And then the rest of the year, people will be just like, what are you doing? What is this? And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:27:46 oh, don't you worry. To come to TMS Vegas to find out. Yeah, don't you worry. You come to one of our events. You'll know. But anyway, these are available now. There is, like I said, a very limited number of these.
Starting point is 00:27:58 You'll get the big drink coaster. You get the big bottle. Everyone had signed in Vegas, although these aren't signed, unfortunately. Five by five prints. you get the challenge coin and the what-nots, but hurry, because there aren't very many. So if you want one you got to go. Maybe wants to know if you're putting the badges and the lanyards in there, too.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Got those in there? Oh, you know what? Yes, if they're, I brought those here, right? Shit. Yeah, I think Kim would know. Well, I'll make sure. If they're here, yes, they're going in also. Very good point.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Thank you. Thank you for that. Well, thank, Amy. Yeah. Thank you, Amy. All right. Anyway, go get it. Frogpants.com.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It's the first one there. you can't miss it. All right. What else? Time for news. That's what else. Let's do it now. It's time for the news and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by which gas is formed when a hydrogen bomb is detonated. Okay. This is not a movie. So this is just straight trivia. I see I see tribal for Brian. So I'm assuming that means trivia. Trival. Oh, geez. To the left of it. Tribal
Starting point is 00:29:06 What the hell was I doing there? Tribal. So which gas is formed when a hydrant? It's, uh, well, it ain't methane. It ain't butane. It ain't, uh, it's like, it's a radioactive gas. It's called radioactive gas. Oh, radio gas.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Let's find out if that is correct. Is that correct? No, it's very incorrect. What is it? The correct answer is helium. Helium is created. Oh, really? generated when the hydrogen bomb is detonated.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, so when that goes off, that's why before everyone dies, they all get really high voices, and then they get. That's an interesting thought. Yeah, but also Coverville coming up today. Tell me about that. Coverville. Now, Coverville, Weird Schedule today. I don't know exactly when it's going to happen because I'm, before it gets really hot after
Starting point is 00:29:57 TMS, I'm going to go do my bike ride, my training ride. So instead of it being at noon, it's going to be sometime this afternoon, but it's going to be a good one. I want you to know that I'm happy for you because you're going to be listening to this coverville featuring the music of Alanis Morissette who just turned 50 this week. Every cover
Starting point is 00:30:17 of every song that you're going to want to hear, whether it's ironic, whether it's head over feet, uninvited. I say uninvited is an underappreciated gem of a song. I don't, I'm trying to think of I know it. Do I?
Starting point is 00:30:33 It's the name's not working for me for some reason you you're uninvited I still don't know I know yeah I know anyway it's so you'll hear it you actually hear a really good version by
Starting point is 00:30:53 a band called Bell Saint oh my God it's so so good as well as covers that she's done you probably know that she did a cover of of crazy by SEAL. Maybe you even know that she did a cover of Basketcase by Green Day. But did you know she did a cover with Willie Nelson of On the Road again? No. Yeah. Yeah, she did. Wow. So that'll be on the show as well. Um, uh, show Coverville, uh, today at whatever time it happens. Sure. If you go to Twitch.tv slash Coverville and just say, give me notifications when Brian goes live. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:31:28 You know, he notified when I go live and you'll hear it. That sounds great. Is anybody checked in on him, Willie Nelson? is he doing all right? He's okay, right? Sure, he's fine. Don't say his name a third time, though. 91 years old. Nilly Wilson, I'll call him. Nilly Wilson, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Imagine pot keeps you young. He's still torn. He's fine. Yeah, he's fine. I mean, he's old as dirt itself, but whatever. Here's some stories here for you. Speaking of death, let's talk about this one. A U.S. woman declared dead found alive
Starting point is 00:32:02 at a funeral home. She died later. Oh, this is like Scott's worst fear. Oh, it's a nightmare. But she died later, she died later anyway after they found her. Anyway, a woman in Nebraska initially pronounced dead at a nursing home was later found to be alive at a funeral home. Authorities have confirmed. This is before they tried to embalm her or do any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:20 An emergency call was made on Monday by staff at a funeral home in Waverly near Lincoln. This is in Nebraska, of course. Who notified the 74-year-old or notified them to the 74-year-old was still breathing and performed CPR on her. Constance Glantz Now that's an old name It's a great name Amazing I have not heard that
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's an amazing name Holy crap I have a restraining order Because of my Constance glance Yeah right I feel like mine's I gotta get mine looked at Anyway
Starting point is 00:32:49 Has been pronounced dead By staff at a nearby nursing home For two hours earlier that day She was taken to a local hospital Police are investigating the incident But say they have not found evidence Of criminal intent by the nursing home this is very unusual case, says Chief Deputy Ben Hootian,
Starting point is 00:33:04 from the Lancaster County Sheriff's Office in a press briefing. Quote, been doing this for 31 years, nothing like this has ever gotten to this point before, unquote. I don't know what he sounds like. A coroner was not. Nebraska probably dead on like that. Something close to that, right? A coroner was sent or was not sent to the nursing home because Mrs. Glantz had been,
Starting point is 00:33:29 that's G-L-A-N-T-Z, by the way. way, everybody. Yeah, glance, yeah. It's been placed in a hospice care and had circumstances that did not fall within the corners remit. I like that word. Mrs. Glant's death has been anticipated, he says. We anticipate there. You know what? We can anticipate everyone's death, really. Yeah, really. I mean, that's kind of one of the guarantees in life, like taxes. There are very few. There's very few absolutes. One of them is you're all going to die one day. All right. All right. There's a joke in here somewhere about taking a second glance. yeah or a glancing off of something
Starting point is 00:34:02 is she dead i don't know take a second glance or second chance for constant glance oh my gosh constant glance second chance it didn't last long she died a few hours later after they held a pillow of her face because they pretty much already paid for everything i just saw that episode of signfeld last night where jerry or where george acts like he's dying because he has tonsillitis
Starting point is 00:34:26 and he goes just end to jerry just end to it now and Jerry goes okay and grabs a pillow and starts smothering him just as a joke and George freaks out and then when Elaine walks in she goes Jerry what are you doing he turns around and goes Elaine what are you doing here
Starting point is 00:34:43 it's fantastic scene so good yeah anyway let's see her current condition is not known they confirmed her family have been notified anyway oh no we do know her condition the follow-up is that she died the current condition is known she's dead yeah this article this article is not updated but I found that did.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Gotcha. She passed away. Farewell, Constance, Glantz. You were here only so briefly. All right. A raisin. You know, the little shriveled up great deal. Two scoops in your raisin brand.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, it's supposed to be all you need in the morning. Right. A toddler, a raisin was found on a toddler's nose after three months of mystery surrounding it. This is a little like me putting... A mystery like, where's the race? Yeah, where did our raisin go? I mean, this to me, this is like when I was a kid and I put the little screw bits in my nose, nose like an idiot.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I still have problems with that side of my nose as a result. When you put a peanut into Kim's marineros sauce? Yeah. We'll never know the fate of that thing. Someone ate it because all that's gone now. It all got used. Somebody put it in their spaghetti. A friend, a neighbor.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You know, they probably noticed as they were heating it up and said, like they poured it into a pot and said, what's this? All right, I'll toss that. Yeah, that looks like a bean that went bad or, you know, like maybe it's just a part of the problem. A large chunk of garlic. Yeah. I mean, at that stage and being in there that long is probably kind of pickled looking, you know, and weird. Yeah. So, yeah, I feel like it dodged a real social faux pomp moment by nobody noticing.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah. Anyway, a raisin was found in this kid's nose. A toddler who suffered sinus pain and lethargy for nearly three months was found to have a raisin upper nose. Peyton Handley of Cumbernauld, the North Lancashire. So we're back over to Europe, folks, told her parents, Craig and Christy, that she had a pain and would scratch around the area. But despite several GP appointments, that general practitioner, I assume, is what that means? Yeah, yep, general practitioner, yep. Nothing was found until a three-year-old was taken to Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Oh, very good, yes. Yes, named after the queen. Once there, ear, nose, and throat, E&T specialists managed to solve the mystery by fishing out a raisin that had been lodged in her. nose. Mrs. Hanley, a former Army medic herself, told BBC Radio Scotland, Good Morning Scotland program with an E. That's how they do it over there, that his daughter, yeah, his daughter had been showing symptoms like bad breath all for about four months. I mean, kids get bad breath. That's a weird thing to notice. I mean, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're all stinky little weirdos. They get all the time. Yeah. This is, so where is this Lenark, Lenark shirt? I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:27 I was thinking Lancashire. I was going to start singing, I read the news today, oh, boy. But this isn't Lancashire. This is Lanarkshire. Oh, yeah, Lenarkshire. You know where that is, Zoe? Oh, what Scotland looks like, because they wouldn't have taken... Oh, yeah, you go to Glasgow.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It would be Scotland. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's the UK. It's the United Kingdom. All right? It says here, we put it down to being viral and kids catching everything. Well, yeah, of course, you would.
Starting point is 00:37:55 We had brought her to the GP. Nick had a tooth fallout today, and that's early. Supposed to not have that until he's like seven or eight or whatever, but... You said Nick. I think you mean Van? Oh, I meant Van. Did I say Nick? You said they're like, poor kid, loses a toe and then loses a tooth.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I know, that would be a rough couple of days. Here, I'll show you the video of this, actually. He got it yanked. I mean, it was loose enough to just kind of fall out, but... Yeah. Where is it? Yeah, here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Chad, I'm going to just put this on repeat and show. and Brian, I'll put it in their Discord. So they hooked him up to the, to the dealio, to the door there with some, I think it's just floss. Oh, look at this. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then, point, and it worked.
Starting point is 00:38:41 God, isn't that just, isn't that? I mean, it works really well, but man, isn't that just the anticipation knowing it? He's got a great little smile about it, though. No, he's stoked. He loves this. He thinks this is like Christmas. I don't know why. He's freaking weird about it, but he loves it. Does he push the door? I guess I'll watch the video. does he push the door himself or no i think his mom shuts it and he never just like you just
Starting point is 00:39:03 not even not even any movement from him it is like yeah that tooth was that tooth would have fallen out yeah it was on its way out and he was apparently didn't cry or nothing he was just like oh cool my tooth's out now he's really excited because now he gets his first all that two fairy bullshit and all that so yeah he's very excited uh okay yeah he's five it's a little early at five to get your teeth out. But he also got teeth early for a baby. Those things came in quick. Anyway, they took out this damn thing out of his kid's nose.
Starting point is 00:39:35 The kid's totally fun. All good now. So if you've got a raisin in your nose, tell mom and dad and get it done, get it taken care of. Brian, here's another story. Please do. Yes. There's a moose with a raisin nose.
Starting point is 00:39:50 That's right. There's a moose in Alaska. Big trouble. Big trouble in Alaska. A moose killed an Alaskan man attempting to take photos of her new Caves, do not do this. Moose are scary. They will tear you up.
Starting point is 00:40:03 They're taller than you. They're bigger than your car. Don't go take pictures of their kids. They defensive, I mean, this is nature, man. Do not do what this guy did. 70-year-old man who was attempting to take photos of two newborn moose calves were attacked and killed by their mother. The man died Sunday was identified as Dale Chorman of Homer.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Homer. I have a friend named Craig Homer. Homer, Alaska, yeah. Says a spokesperson for the Alaska Department of Public Safety. The female moose had recently given birth to the calves in Homer. As they were walking through the brush, this is a quote, looking at the moose or looking for the moose. That's when the cow moose attacked Dale.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I didn't know they were called a cow. That's interesting. I didn't know that either, but I guess that makes sense. Sure. They still have calves? They definitely call these calves. Yeah, they called them the baby was calves. Oh, we even have a moose in the tadpole.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Luce 2271, thank you. Is he a calf or is he a full-grown cow? I see that, I don't know. Yeah. He goes on to say, he was walking through the brush. Oh, see, the attack happened while the two were running away. The second man who has not been publicly identified was uninjured. That person did not witness the attacks,
Starting point is 00:41:16 so authorities cannot say if the moose killed Chorman by kicking or stomping on him or a combination. But these are wild, monstrous animals. Have you seen the size of a moose lately, Brian, when they're like walking on the freeway? it's horrifying oh yeah we get them in um so if you go up to estes park during the right time of year or maybe as some would say the wrong time of year there's uh they come out and the uh the moose come out and they're calving and uh oh there's a noise that they make too and they call it not braying because that's what donkeys do but something like that and they make these these terrific noises and they take over the entire golf course up there oh my gosh that's amazing
Starting point is 00:41:55 that's great how do you get any golfing done you just have to deal with it you don't those poor those poor golfers wherever will they find to uh play the sport that takes up so much of our great land in this country i mean look at the side i'm showing the chat room this one of a car yeah unbelievable i mean they're so it's just they are massive yeah there's big you know you always hear about how big certain animals are no one talks about these things these things are and they suck at magic we learned as kids yeah they're not great at magic, something up his sleeve, presto, oops, I should have done some other thing. Maybe it's the wrong head. Yep. Hey, Rocky. But then there was always something we'd really like from Rocky after that. At least exactly. And it was usually some time travel with Mr. Sherman and Peabody. Yeah. Quite you, he'd say
Starting point is 00:42:43 to that kid. No, that was the Simpsons. Anyway, there's that. That's a fun story for people who like death and mooses. Here's another one. Parents share this one makes me laugh I don't know why because I just think parents
Starting point is 00:42:56 should be a little bit better at managing their kids watching what their kids are doing correct yeah parents share warning after son spends $4,000 playing video games parents Michael and Jennifer Ferry
Starting point is 00:43:07 are speaking out and sharing a warning for other parents after they learned their 8 year old son unintentionally racked up $4,000 in charges on their credit card while playing games
Starting point is 00:43:16 quote I mean I lost my mind unquote says Jennifer Ferry she was on good morning America. That's a thing in the morning there. She found this out about her son, Joey, and says after months, Ferris was finally able to get a full refund but said her experience was a precautionary tale. I think sometimes it's
Starting point is 00:43:37 confusing as to what is real money and what is fake money, says Michael Ferry. According to the July 2013, 2013, 2020 report by the Entertainment Software Association or the ESA, more than 200 million Americans and about three out of every four children under 18 play video games regularly, an estimated $57 billion, it's spent on video games every year. That's actually low. That's just console games. I looked this up the other day. Oh, really? Yeah. Console games are around 57 billion. PC games around 38 billion. Wow. And mobile's at 90-something billion on
Starting point is 00:44:16 mobile. She's 90. I mean, it's worldwide. It's not just the States, but. Yeah. Yeah. And this might just be the States. But anyway, that's a lot of, that's a lot of cosmetics purchased in Fashland, folks. You guys are buying way too many of the cosmetics in Fashland. That's right. Careful and Fash, don't go to Fashland unprepared. All right. It says here, let's see, I'm trying to figure out what game you spend it on. It doesn't say. I know, I wish I wouldn't say, but yeah, don't. I mean, the kids playing Fortnite on that screen, so I don't know if that's a fake screen or not, though. Who knows? But yeah, it's like buying the skins and stuff like that and you can you can set things up to limit that they all have
Starting point is 00:44:56 parental controls every single one of these has parental controls so i that's why i'm a little annoyed that it's like precautionary tale should be not that the kid did it yeah to watch better pay more attention to their kids than we did yeah yeah i mean basically that's it don't don't i mean i'm not saying everybody's 100% educated on how this stuff works but maybe get educated on it, because it's all there. Yeah. A lot of this stuff by default, stuff is, stuff is enabled for that. And you have to turn it off to say, okay, yeah, allow my child to make purchases without
Starting point is 00:45:31 asking me. And they probably did that like, like, oh, he's asking us for, you know, these $1.99 purchases too much. Okay, yes, we'll turn that function off. And then he just went br like crazy. Yeah, yeah. I know, I have, I have some sympathy, but not too much. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 freaking get you. And she got a refund, so it's all fine. So here's the cautionary tale. Use, uh, let your kids play games. Use the parental controls that are built into all this. At the base level, it's on your phone. At the base level, it's on your consoles. On the base level, it's on your PCs and your Macs. And then keep an eye on it. And if the kid says, oh, mom, please, can I have the Wonder Woman skin or whatever in Fortnite? Then if you want them to, then you do it. You go in there and you show them the value of that money. You make him take out the trash or do something for it. Like parent. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Exactly. It's all I'm asking. Just parent. Just parent. What did we have as kids where we couldn't be trusted with a quarters of arcade? Like what was our version of this? You'd still have a finite. You couldn't play games on quarters you didn't have, right?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Right. But there were 9-7-6, like that probably was the closest thing, was like the 976 numbers where you could call and you wouldn't realize, you know, it was racking up a charge constantly. Yeah, that's true. that's a good point what else did we have like that that's really it yeah i mean we had yeah so you could take a phone and without well i guess you still had to have a payment method though no it would pay it would bill it to the phone company so you wouldn't get the bill you wouldn't know that you did it or that your child did it until the phone company bill came so if you called one nine hundred hot ladies or something right when you're 14 thinking you're getting away with
Starting point is 00:47:12 something your parents would get this bill and it would say the name of it and they'd come out oh that sounds Somebody felt the sting on that. I'm trying to remember, like, pay-per-view movies. A couple people have said this in the chat. I can't remember if, with our cable company, if you had to enter in credit card or something when you ordered a pay-per-view movie. It felt like you went through like five hoops to finally get the pay-per-view thing you wanted. Like before you actually got it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 From the time you said, ooh, I'd like to watch that. It felt like it was, you know, now. get some blood and put it in like a little syringe and send it to us. Weird. Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think like if there's anything else like that. I think the kids today, but see, all these
Starting point is 00:48:00 controls are there, so it's still not an issue. You still have to parent. You still have to be there. You just got to educate your kids on. By the way, these, you know, you're playing this game, but it actually does cost real money to play this game. Yeah. Yeah. If you, you know, you can play the game for free, but anything you
Starting point is 00:48:16 buy in there that has this blue box, It costs money. Yeah. Yeah. I just got a, by the way, I just got a text saying, you guys should call this. There's no name on this. So I don't know who just sent this. Someone in the chat.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh, God. Let's just call it and see what happens. This is something to do with this subject, I think. I don't know. I'm going to hit call. Does Ms. Cleo? Do you find Ms. Cleo's number? Well, it's definitely not a 900 or 977.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah, it looks like it shouldn't be anything that bills anybody. Let's find out. Here we go. I'm just going to hit connect. Allow. Here we go. Okay, we're ringing. This call is being routed by Google.
Starting point is 00:48:53 The cost of this call is, one, cents per minute. You have two minutes of talk time to this number. No. One cents a minute. How does, how does, okay. Welcome to the conference call. Please enter your access code or pin followed by the pound sign. Well, what's the point of this?
Starting point is 00:49:11 I don't have any of that info. Who invited you to a conference call? I don't know. I didn't get any of the info like that, like to put in the code. you know i mean i like a weird number as much as the next guy but sure but make it a funny weird number or not uh oh we just got another one let's try this one no one's leaving their names earnings uh quarterly report no one's leaving their name which means that nobody really wants to take credit for this yeah all right what do we got here
Starting point is 00:49:37 this is uh it's ringing maybe it's it says it oh what's going on Okay. Welcome to the conference call. The same thing? What is happening? Quit doing that, whoever you are. I'm no longer trusting these texts. All right, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:50:00 When we come to break, my sister, Wendy, will be here. We got a quick follow-up and then a new subject this week that we're going to read through and try to help somebody out. It's Therapy Thursday. Yes, that's right. So prepare yourselves accordingly. Brian, let's play a song before she gets here. Yeah, this is something new.
Starting point is 00:50:13 This is by an author and musician Scott Gild. critically acclaimed author and musician Scott Gild. He's got a book coming out or he's on tour, a book and music tour right now, for a book called Plastic, The Novel. It's out via Penguin Random House right now. But there's also an album that goes along with it. So you can listen to the album, read the book.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It's called Plastic the album. And it's Scott Gild, Cinder Talk, and Stranger Cat. Here is the song, Lightning. In the wake of an attack, this is where love love found me. a blast This is where Love found me Hidden
Starting point is 00:51:28 scanned your backseat Burned confetti in the street ashes drifting through the end This is where found me I stared at your face at your long black hair
Starting point is 00:51:55 I somehow felt safe in the silence we shed a sudden glow flashed through my hallows of radiant brightening you are lightning oh lightning A lightning wind
Starting point is 00:52:25 One night we meet in the moon park Falling stars burn brightly A plastic hands brush in the dark This is where For hours, we stray down this stony path. Would you turn away if you knew my past? I doubt this can last, but your eyes, your laugh is so inviting. You are lightning, oh, lightning.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Oh, lightning Oh, lightning All the love I've touched is crumbled into star dust All the love I've touched has died And I dream in pain That you will remain I can't share my pain
Starting point is 00:53:42 I just lie and lie You are lightning, a vivid glow In my hollow body so long alone It's everything I fear and I want to know The sky igniting You are lightning Oh, lightning all I need
Starting point is 00:54:16 All I think All I think All the love I've touched All the love I've touched has crumbled into star dust Normalize not going out because you got the toots. Text your friend. Can't tonight. Can't stop farting.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Send. And then they'll say, heard, and send you a link for some yoga poses that'll help you far better. It's my IP to sit on and do nothing with. Ah, yes. Remind us one more time who that was.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Sure. From Plastic, The Album, which you can listen to while you read, Plastic, the book. That's Scott Gild, Cinder Talk, and Stranger Cat, and a song called Lightning. Nice. What's around with a little lightning? Let's see here. Wendy is currently grayed out. That's never a good sign, but we're going to give it a shot. We're going to try anyway. my guess is that just means I don't know what it means could be just her phone doesn't link
Starting point is 00:55:41 that doesn't mean anything I think she'll be here I think she'll have good advice regardless everything's gonna be fine she always does oh I just got a message oh while we're waiting for this is an interesting little event
Starting point is 00:55:53 there's a do so our next door neighbors are moving to South Carolina to fix up a house for their parents who are making a vacation home there and they're going to live there for a year while they do it and here they're going to rent their house to somebody for the year and then they'll come back.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Somebody they've vetted, right? You're not just going to get some rando. Exactly. Exactly. They're doing walkthroughs. They're trying to make sure they're people they like and all this sort of thing. And he's keeping my next door neighbor's name is Mike, super nice guy, always sending me updates. Like, all right, we had these people walk through.
Starting point is 00:56:26 We don't know what they're going to do. He's just letting us know. He's very cool. Yeah. Love this guy. Good. He just told me today. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:56:37 Oh, okay. You know that, so we got an NHL team, right? We got the Utah, whatever we're going to call them. Right. No name to be named later. Yeah. And the guy that walked through the house yesterday is the coach of the new team. So we're going to get an NHL coach next door just for a year, potentially, if it all works out. We're going to get the coach of the NHL team living there while they, I think they're building or something. So this is like a temporary solution for them. And so for a year anyway, I may have that. I mean, we'll see how friendly is. I smell tickets. Yeah, right? Give me some of those fancy tickets up in the balcony and all that.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Or what do you call it? What do they call those? Floor seats or, no, what are the ones up? Box seats. That's what I'm looking for. Box seats. Oh, gotcha. Where they bring you the food and the whatnot.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. think of that, Wendy? We're getting the coach for the new NHL team, possibly living right next door to me. What do you think of that? What? Yeah. What are they going to name it? The team we don't know yet. It's right now, it's a big, tight race between Yeti, Mammoth, Blizzard, and I forgot the other one. Yeti, I think, is in the lead. But I've said, I'll make it, I'll say it again on the public record. If they call it the Salt Lake Yeti, I'm in. If they call it the Utah Yeti, I'm out. That sounds stupid. It's too awkward. It's too awkward. It's too.
Starting point is 00:58:04 awkward to say yeah i don't like it so anyway we'll see what happens but this coach is in the interim because he's you know just moving here and needs a place while his house gets built in a year or over a year and so they're going to live next door potentially so right now it looks like they they are the most possible renters that are happening and i'm i'm going to get tickets out of this i swear yeah let's hope yeah that's my goal anyway hi windy it's nice to hear and see you i don't see you but i hear you how are you yeah how's it going yeah yeah seeing you in my mind. Yeah, we just picture you for far away.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Ready, read that in. Yep, absolutely. I cannot remember what either of you look like. Okay, well, that's good. We need to do events more often. Sure. Matt was here last night. He says hi because he knew I was going to talk to you today.
Starting point is 00:58:51 So your brother, Matt. We had a whole, I recorded this on my diary podcast, but Matt and I sat down for like 40 minutes and just talked about what it was like to come to America, what his memories of the place were before he got here from Korea. does he have memories specifically to the orphanage and man he has some stories i have never heard before oh wow that's cool i haven't listened that one yeah so you all want to want to check that one out it was it was also very funny he's a goofball so we had a good time well yeah that we know we talked about how he used to chase us through the house with chewed up food do you remember that windy that was a thing anyway we talked about that it's such an effective weapon oh it's amazing
Starting point is 00:59:29 just a little piece of pizza and a baggie and we were like dying yeah it was not even like out of the baggie it was protected sort of that's so weird he's a weird dude uh but it's worth it's worth listening and checking that out everybody if you get a second you can find it at frogpants.com slash diary either the podcast or the video version or whatever you want uh Wendy I'm going to read a quick follow up before we get to our subject is that all right yeah all right I got this from we got a name we didn't get a name but he says this hi Scott Brian and Wendy I'm listening to episode 2649 uh was called Ivan the frequent uh you three uh sorry sorry, are talking about food.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And Brian said something about you wouldn't eat just a tortilla. But if it was cut up and deep fried, then you would eat it. I just wanted to pop in and say, I am one of the different ones. I'd rather enjoy a plain tortilla as a snack. No more than two, if I'm really, really hungry. And sometimes I have them with a side of salsa. My bonus, or see, my bonus dad enjoys the with peanut butter. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:00:28 My bonus dad. The bonus dad. I think stepdad is a bonus dad. Okay. Bonus Dad enjoys them with peanut butter. Love the show, though. Okay, I'll fully admit, I do this with a bag of tortillas. I do, yeah. I think, was it Brian Dunaway who said it? Because I like a good tortilla as well. I'll just grab one while I'm waiting for, well, wait for my green chili to heat up. I'm going to start eating. Good point. Maybe it's Donaway. I don't know. But we were talking to Windy at the time, so I don't know where this came from. It's weird. Yeah, I think I said a joke about that you would, you wouldn't eat nine tortillas, but you would, that's what it is. Yes. Nine tortillas if they were cut and triangles.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Oh, that's it. That's it. Okay. Yeah, no, bring me a bag of good ones. I'm happy to have some tortillas that way. Eat nine. That's the real. Yeah, that's because that is how many I'll eat if you bring them to me deep fried and kind of little triangles.
Starting point is 01:01:20 No, they'll, they'll expand to the point that you'll want to die. Don't, don't be eating that. bad idea. All right, let's get to the actual subject. This is an email sent to me by Wendy, Wendy over here. My sister, real therapist, by the way, if you're new to the segment, you're like, what's Scott's sister doing here? She's like a, you know, does therapy. And so on Thursday, she, you know, slubs with us and we help people. She's legit. She is legit. Too legit to quit, really. Here's how it goes. Hey, Wendy, Scott, and Brian, I had a question. I thought the three of you could shed some light on it. I'll bet Wendy
Starting point is 01:01:50 sheds more light than us. But anyway, here we go. So I'm a guy in his 40s. with two kids and realizing that may, that may be my occupation isn't what I want to do. I've got a good career and work at a great place with terrific people, but now I'm looking to tap into my creative energy and write a novel. Over the past few years, I have developed an idea for a story, come up with characters, I could describe as well to my friends, created an outline of how the story unfolds, and chosen some themes I want to include. I've also taken time, or sorry, taken some courses on writing. Now, I'm trying to actually write the book. As I progressed, the reality sets in. It is hard to write a book. That's the
Starting point is 01:02:30 truth. I feel as if I've gone from running on asphalt to running in mud and on sand. I've always believed in the George McFly principle that if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything. I've followed this my entire life, and it served me well. Good grades lead to good schools, leading to good jobs, leading good career. But this is different. So some comments on when and how I write. When I sit down to write, it's usually at a time that's shoehorned in between other things, just whenever I can find the time, 20 minutes at my desk, at work during lunchtime, an hour or so on Sunday afternoon when my kids are with their grandparents, something like that. When I do, and I try to pour the words out of my head and onto my screen, I often have the following thoughts. And here are his quotes, quote, this is no good. I need to redo all of this.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Or I have to write now because if I don't, because I don't get a lot of chances. Or if I want to pivot from my career, I've just got to do this. Or finally, shouldn't this be more enjoyable? It is definitely work for sure. He says also, if I'm not feeling creative enough to write something, I usually go back and edit what I've written just to keep my head in that space. All of that being said, I really do enjoy the creative process and I've written things before, never published, just things I would write if I had more time. but putting my mind to it isn't accomplishing anything. What's more, whenever I decide to engage in leisure activity,
Starting point is 01:03:53 like reading, watching a show or playing a video game, which mostly happens after the kids have gone to bed. I almost resent myself for saying, quote, you should be writing. If you really want to do this, get to it, unquote. Boy, do I relate to this. Yes. So my question is, what am I doing wrong?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Put another way is George McFly wrong. I really hope not because back to the future is a perfect film. I agree. As Scott and Brian have experienced at working in a creative space and Wendy knows how the brain works. The three of you seem well suited to ask my question. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:04:24 All right. So the guy who's followed all the career advice he ever got and did all the right stuff. And now he wants to branch. He wants to do something different. What advice do we give this dude? I got the original email. So I know that this person is a lawyer. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Okay. That's there. That's so very, very different. than the creative outlet that he that he needs for sure. Yes. And so I want, first of all, if you two could talk a little bit about just creativity, right? Like what, how do you tap into it?
Starting point is 01:05:01 How do you? Because lawyering, you know, whatever form of lawying, this is probably a really good writer naturally, right? Because trained to write well. Yeah, but not that kind of writing. Exactly. It's more like writing subpoenas.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So a good sentence structure, maybe, and good punctuation. but yeah so so what talk me talk us through what you to so he's he's like he feels like a grisham type like john grisham famously was a lawyer before he became an author and he wrote about a lot of lawyer things in his stories like his stories are often around that michael crichton was a doctor he wrote er and a lot of other science fiction and things but er was like his direct experience um so these these feel like similar situations and also that should give i would think people like him a little bit of hope to see that this is a thing you can do
Starting point is 01:05:46 you can have this kind of experience even though you're in a job that maybe is less creative um for me i when i was working full time and doing this and starting this there was definitely a disconnect between the two even though the job i had during the day was graphic design i did a lot of web stuff like it was still kind of in my wheelhouse but the creativity was stunted because it was usually doing stuff other people needed constantly i wasn't getting to do my own creative process it was like, well, you guys need this. How about this? Now, that won't work. Like, it was a lot of decision by committee, not pure creativity. So it was really refreshing when I would go home and do the stuff I wanted to do because I had full creative control over it. And really, that's what
Starting point is 01:06:29 eventually drove me to figure out a way to get out of the corporate world and do this full time. That being said, none of it took, in some ways, it's still going. Like, I'm still trying to suss it out, prove it out, figure it out. But I have these exact same hangups. Like, there are times where I just need to sit and chill with a dog and watch something dumb on TV, watch King of the Hill reruns on TV. There are times where that is actually good for me to do that. But I sit there and my brain's like, yeah, but you could be doing that piece that you need to get done for the store. Or you could be getting art for FilmSec done for next month, even though I've got weeks before it's due.
Starting point is 01:07:09 You know, like, I just think, well, this is time you could be productive. Why aren't you productive? And it's a really annoying voice, especially because it's not, because we're our own boss, I don't, I can't even think my, I don't even get that opportunity to be in the break room going, oh, man, can you believe he's making us do that? Like, I don't have that. You can't vent. Right. No, what am I going to do, vent against myself? Like, that's a real, that's a challenge I didn't expect. Like, that was the thing I didn't even thought about. Brian, what do you, what's your take on all of that? Similar kind of thing. And you got to think of those periods as, as, like, recharging your batteries.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Yeah, I don't know if I was on camera, but took a big swig of my coffee and got a mouthful of grounds. So in a second, I got to step away and just get a glass of water or something because it's like, whoa. No, I did see that and you made a face. I wondered why the face. So now I get it. I'm picking it like there in my teeth. And it's like, oh, this is horrendous. Gross.
Starting point is 01:08:04 That is a great analogy. Well, just you'll go get your water and we'll work with that. That's right. Sometimes in life, you take a drink of coffee and you just get them around.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Exactly. Exactly. No, it's a very similar thing, but it's very tough to look at those periods of downtime as being part of recharging your creativity batteries.
Starting point is 01:08:28 So, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:08:34 the, look at the day you spend your day doing these things and it's like, oh, getting this creativity out or getting this thing out and getting this thing done and looking at this image to kind of create this other graphic. And then it's that downtime that if you just did just the output all the time, you'd have nothing left. You need some input. You need some like sitting on the couch playing with the dog. I get the cat hopping up on my lap. She's looking to me right now. And you need that time to recharge your batteries. And it's so hard when you work for yourself to think of that time as being productive because you're technically not producing
Starting point is 01:09:08 anything. But but it is it, you got to, you got to fill the coffee pot to be able to generate the coffee. And that's the. Yeah. Sometimes you get a mouthful of grounds. Sometimes you have a mouthful of grounds. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I think what's hard and both of you just sort of demonstrated this is it's difficult to express somebody's process when you're in your, your head criticizing your own process or it doesn't always work or it's hit and miss but somehow you're still creating and putting stuff out there right like that it's a little hard like if someone just followed you around and said all right this is what you do all day every day in order to produce what scott produces people be like i cannot live like that yeah yeah yeah and sometimes
Starting point is 01:09:55 you're going to be drawing uh uh beams or or scales if you're doing like this really cool fish and you're drawing this really creative-looking fish. Sometimes, just like with this writing, and he's probably getting to this part with the writing where he's like feeling, you know, like he's not in one of the more exciting or creative parts of the book that he's like, yeah, I'm just drawn scales on this big, gorgeous fish,
Starting point is 01:10:16 but they're just scales right now. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it really is this feeling of, because I'm not accountable to anyone but myself, sometimes you're accountable. Like, you've been doing a commission and there's a due date and all that.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You find that accountability to other people. It's not that it doesn't exist. Or, you know, we need to make shows when they're due. Try to be on time. Try to have it posted right after, you know, be consistent, all that stuff. Like there are those things because our customers, quote unquote, listeners, viewers, readers, all that. Those are our pressure points. Or they, I guess they are in the way that any businesses.
Starting point is 01:10:53 But because I'm not reporting to anybody, it's a different thing. It's not that I'm not, I'm very reliable as both an employee and a boss at the same time. But I don't think I am when I'm having downtime or when I'm, you know, I need a break. Like Sunday, we just, I decided Sunday I was going to be just a loaf. That was my goal because I had had a really whirlwind week. It was nuts. Kim's not here. Things are crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:19 It's just nuts. And so I thought I'm going to just really do nothing unless it's fun, relaxing, enjoyable, whatever. I'm just going to chill. And I did that, but I'd be lying if I said there weren't multiple times during my chill day where I went, Scott, you could be doing this. You know, you could be on this day, I'm supposed to be chilling where I don't have any commitments other than we did film sex that morning. But past that, it was like, you don't have any commitments. Everything else is prepped for the following week.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You're good. Just relax. Do what you want to do. Hang out with your kids, which I did. But the whole time I'm thinking, yeah, but I could. You know, I get that thing up in the store. Exactly. I can get that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And that's, yeah. I'm doing those magnets, those morning stream magnets that I've been promising forever. This is the large version, but I've got a bunch of small versions that I'm putting together. And designing the 3D print, oh, so much fun. And then printing and kind of cleaning things off and getting and making it look good. Oh, that too. And now it's gluing magnets on the back of 150 little plastic pieces. And I basically do it in the environment.
Starting point is 01:12:27 environment. So if you're having a hard time writing, take it to an environment that gives you some more joy. So do it outside. Take your iPad or your computer laptop or whatever and do some, you know, do some writing out there. I took all those magnets, everything all out to our patio table last night and put on some music and just sat there and did all that on the back patio with sunshine and all that stuff. That looked lovely. You're out there. I saw that picture it looked like you're having a very nice like quick made quick work or gave me something else to enjoy while i did that sort of thing yeah yeah that's awesome i'm gonna go get my water now all right he's gonna get his water so wendy we're that long with that in his mouth right
Starting point is 01:13:13 i know it's impressive i thought he must have done it when i was looking um yeah those are all really great ideas and you can see you know you're you're figuring out how to to try to take breaks and reconfigure yourself so that you have more energy to give, et cetera. A classic example of temptation bundling. Brian has a temptation to be outside playing hooky and also a temptation not to put the magnets on. You put it together and it makes for an enjoyable thing, right? So all good things.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I think one of the challenges this e-mailer has that you guys no longer have is you don't have other obligations. You guys have different challenges because of that. He has a full-time job. as a lawyer and then a family and young kids and how in the world do you both still do a decent enough job to get your paycheck and to happen to your creative energy. So I have a couple thoughts on how to do that and then wondering if, you know, the community has a way to support this guy. I had a couple good thoughts on that. So let me start with this. So everyone needs to figure out there best, the best time of day they work. So automatically someone in there is listening
Starting point is 01:14:32 to this and they're like, oh, at night, oh, at noon, oh, at eight, oh, six, 45, or whatever. People, you know it intuitively when you are the most awake and your brain is the most clear. I think the vast majority people make the mistake of waking up and scrolling on their phones and ruining their best time of day. Yeah, Brian, I've been watching you. No. It's literally everyone. Just because I hit like on every Instagram post of yours, Wendy, geez. And some of those happen to be at 545 a.m.
Starting point is 01:15:06 What's the deal with that? It's true, though. We all do it. You're right, though. It's like the universal thing. And what we do is we hijack our dopamine system, our motivational system, right away, and just pithy some of it away. Email is the second culprit for doing this.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So what happens is people, wake up. Let's say they're feeling really good. It doesn't matter even what time, but often morning, for a lot of people who work like eight to five gigs, they, they don't realize this. But once they have enough coffee in them or they are fully awake, that's usually their best working hours. And what do most people do in those best working hours? They do email. And email is like the worst version of scrolling because it's not fun. But it does take bits of dopamine, it delivers bits of dopamine and you're getting many rewards and you know the feeling when you send an email and you're like, done, checked, but you know they're going to respond
Starting point is 01:16:02 and that thing is now a scylla to do. It's not over. And so think about it as you're just, you know, it's non-nutrative. It's not great for you, but you got to do it. Our problem is we just time block it wrong. Yeah. So instead, what people ought to do is figure out their best working time and that's where you do your deep work. So that is, do not mess with your dopamine system. Sit down. Get some sunshine in your eyeballs. Listen to music. Whatever those other soothing preparatory. Like the other day, I was so tired. This is a week. My kids are out of school. This is our last day. I feel like time is slipping through my hands. Like, I don't want them home. Okay. Anyhow, I was like, I got to get up. I got to get up. I'm so tired. I want to get up. So I started, I found a like a hype playlist.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I was just listening to Beastie Boys and it gets you. Oh, nice, nice. Look at you. You can't knock it out of bed with a little Beastie boy because you're or anything that's like a hype. We're going to win this game. Yeah, sometimes Beastie boys are what you, what you, what you want. Yeah, what you, what you want.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And Wendy, I could just picture her in there going intergalactic plan on tank like just like getting all stoked in her room, getting up, Adam going rolling his eyes. That's amazing. What are you doing? And I'm like, I can't get up with all beastie boys. And then I'm like dancing as I'm getting ready. Like, it works. But if I did that every single day, it would stop working, right?
Starting point is 01:17:24 This is the stupid thing about human brains. But sometimes we need something different, whatever. However, what we do do is delete our, or just deplete is what I meant. Deplete our stores of dopamine for things that are of low consequence, though they still feel like we're being protective and that's problematic, right? So do your deep work. Now, I look at this schedule that this guy must live. And I think, dang, you're not going to get to pick your optimal time if it's 10 a.m.
Starting point is 01:17:56 because you're going to be at work or if it's 6 p.m. You're going to be making dinner for kids. I can't do any lawyer in for the next hour. Leave me alone. And actually, you're figuring out a way to time block times that are guarantees you will be writing is going to be your best bet. So no matter what, every morning, and I know this sounds horrible. from 5 to 6 a.m. is when you write or every night from 9 to 10 p.m. So what you're doing, or you do your lunch hour or you say, I'm busy lawyering from 10 to 11. Leave me alone and you're
Starting point is 01:18:35 actually writing. I mean, I'm not going to tell anybody. But you will time block it. So it's set in stone when you will do it. You show up every time, whether you write or not or you write well or not, you just show up, show up again and again and again and again and you write. The other thing I noticed, let's see, about the self-talk. If you look at that, it's just like, this isn't good. Well, let's be clear, you're not an editor. You're a writer. So if you want to decide if something's good or not, then you should go read someone else's book. What you're doing is giving birth to a book, right? And if in the middle of labor, a woman's like, I don't know if I'm any good at this.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Can we do this? Can we reschedule this for 1 p.m? Right. And shouldn't this be more enjoyable? And the answers, no. The answer is, I'm here to do the work. And so I've talked about this book a long time. I think there's some tone updating it should really have.
Starting point is 01:19:38 But the basis of it is still good. And that is the war of art. So I would recommend he gets the war of art. The War of Art. And I read that thing in five minutes. This is the one by Stephen Pressfield who wrote the legend of Bagger Vance. Oh, right. Now this is all ringing a bell.
Starting point is 01:19:55 We talked about this once. And I don't remember the context. He talks about resistance. Yeah. Like figuring out what your resistance is. And here's the best way to manage resistance is to keep showing up. There's resistance to showing up. So you've got to figure out what that is too.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yeah. But to get yourself to sit down to write at all these times and to stop reading. quit reading, quit editing, just right. Because I don't know if when the last time you guys looked at the back of a book, you know how many names are usually back there of people to think? You cannot do this alone. Someone, first of all, you can't do someone else's job in the book writing process, which is being an editor.
Starting point is 01:20:33 And as a lawyer, you're probably decent at editing. You're probably really good at looking at the minutia. Isn't that your whole gig? And so you've got to stop doing that. And I know it feels very opposite of what you're good at. and you're leaning into what I'm not good at, which is writing a creative novel, which is like giving birth and I'm not editing.
Starting point is 01:20:52 So it really is very different. So when anyone has to do something really different to get what they want, you've got to train your brain to do that thing. And the best way to do it is by creating some habits and having social. So there's like a time thing and a social thing and accountability. Right. So you're not alone doing it. and someone is also holding you accountable.
Starting point is 01:21:18 So I would look at it like this. Find time blocking, find, you know, an hour a day where you're writing no matter what, figure out where you can put that time. Sure. Trust me, you spend an hour doing dumb stuff all the time. We all do it, right? Yeah. And then do not let that bleed into your video game time at night or hanging out with your kids.
Starting point is 01:21:38 You just, it doesn't ever cross paths. I write from 9 to 10 a.m. every morning. That's what I do, five to six, whatever you got to do to fit into your life. And then the rest of the time, you are doing your life. And hopefully, you're getting excited about writing the next day. So I've told you this story before, but I love it. Roldall, of course, a prolific, incredible writer. He would do this thing where he would have a place and then this is another thing,
Starting point is 01:22:03 have a time and a place where you write. So I like Brian's idea, somewhere that is itself motivating. So maybe it's, you know, on a bus. maybe it's in a corner and it's not as lovely as a deck with sunshine. But if you can find a place where that is where you go to write, your body will associate that place with creating and writing. And the time of day, I mean, we're just using the way the brain gets traumatized to your advantage.
Starting point is 01:22:33 It gets traumatized by memorizing the place it is. So you'll never get hurt again. We want it to memorize the place you are. And that's where you get creative. of that's where you write. That's where you give birth to your book. Okay, so place and time. And then you have this world doll.
Starting point is 01:22:50 What he would do is he had a place and a time. So he would write all morning and he would write to the pinnacle of his excitement. Like he was so excited for what was coming next and would think it's so funny and like he couldn't wait to get a pen on the paper and he would walk away. And so he would come back the next day excited to write again. So that's not going to be everyone's personality. but I do think there is value in seeing that when you just think, oh, I want to write this down, maybe make a voice note or something,
Starting point is 01:23:20 but don't go, go, you write during your writing time. Do not write during other times because this dude does not have the life with the luxury to do that, right? Right. Sometimes I see something different if this was a full-time situation for someone, but I would still really encourage using the brain to help you do the hard part. So the resistance often comes from these stories. If you look at these stories, shouldn't this be more enjoyable?
Starting point is 01:23:48 The pressure I want to pivot for my career, I have to do this. That's a lot of pressure. I don't, this scarcity, I don't have a lot of chances to write. I've got to do it now. This is no good. Like those are really, these are safety mechanisms. Like, you stop now, you don't want to keep going. This is very vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:24:09 This is really hard. What is happening? happening, right? So maybe a little work on how we talk to ourselves in those moments might be appropriate there. Do you think this, I mean, I don't know why I didn't think to get this book. I ordered this book just now because of your recommendation. Do you think that even if, even for some of us who've kind of figured out our path and are doing the thing we were meant to do, we think, anyway? Do you think this is helpful for us as well? Just to, yes, 100%. Because the more. The more of art. I mean, obviously he's playing off the concept of art of art. And there's plenty of other
Starting point is 01:24:45 versions of this type of book. But the idea is that you have art to create. It's only coming through you, right? I think sometimes when I think about like the no better you concept and trying to teach people the things that I think they need, I mean, that's half of what my job is, is helping people understand how their own brains work. And, you know, I know it helps people. I know I can do this. And I then think, well, everyone has TikTok. They don't need me to do it, right?
Starting point is 01:25:19 Someone could just go, someone else is telling them. Why would they want me to tell them? And I heard someone say this. I can't remember who it was, but it was really helpful. It was just like, yeah, but some people need to hear it only, it's only going to really click from you. Like your unique take or your unique creation, is wanted and needed.
Starting point is 01:25:39 So stop worrying that someone else has already done this. I'm going to guess this is a fantasy novel, right? I have no idea. I'm going to guess it's something. Fiction, for sure. It's been done a billion times. Right? Like if you're thinking, well, there's already too many books in the world, you're out.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Like, there are too many books in the world. Right. Right. There are too many people telling you how to have good mental health. Nobody needs me to do it. But do they? Like, does this book actually need to be written A for you, but also your perspective is unique. You're the only one of you.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And there is value in that. And similar to the art that both of you create. Like, it's not common from somebody else. It's going to come from you. The resistance is often about some of these self-doubts or I'm not good enough or whatever it is the thing we say or do or the self beating up like, I should have done this or I should do more or if I had blah, blah, blah. And if we focus more on you need to work through what is your creative process and figure out uniquely what you are offering and do it, do it whether anyone reads it or not.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And I think that's where the, should I quit my career and write books, you are jumping way too far ahead. You've got to write a book first. Yeah, I, yeah. And you're only going to write a book first if you plan an hour of writing. I can't remember who told me somebody, somebody who's like an actual published author. I can't remember who I talked to. It may have been Hugh Howley. I think it was Hugh Howley, the dude that made Silo, the Silo series.
Starting point is 01:27:15 So very successful. Got multiple TV shows now based on his books. But that dude was in his 40s, decided, didn't want to do what he was doing anymore, just started writing self-publishing on Amazon. And now he's like a massive hit and a huge science fiction voice. and I think it was him I'm trying to make sure this is him because I spoke to him once
Starting point is 01:27:38 and he said something to the effect I'm paraphrasing but the way for him was just to poop it out get it out like even if it felt annoying or even if it felt like this is definitely going to have
Starting point is 01:27:49 to be edited what I just wrote for five minutes doesn't matter just put it out be done don't you can always come back and edit it it's like get that base
Starting point is 01:27:59 color on the page and then you can start refining it and shaping it and that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah. And that's the birth process, you've got to poop it out. And then you have to raise it. Yeah, spend 18 years shaping that product. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:12 There you go. No, you do have to, you got to raise that. It's like your kid. You have to raise it. Yeah. Podcasting the same way. Get that first recording out. And don't, don't analysis, paralysis your way into saying, oh, there's a lot of work to do.
Starting point is 01:28:26 I'll do it tomorrow. It's like, just get that first recording out. It's going to sound horrible. You're going to hate the sound of your voice. All that. stuff. Somebody once told me there's a people have a ready aim, ready aim, ready aim and you never fire. And you can do that and think it's helping you be more prepared or that you're more ready because you're taking your time or whatever. But at some point, you just got to do it.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Like go back and listen to TMS episode one. It's garbage. It's not good. I mean, that first Thursday, was I even on a phone? I was in a tin can. It was so bad. It was really bad. The first cover belt. My God, it's, it's, uh, I don't even. like doing it. I don't know you've got something coming from yeah I do this with every show. Watch any pilot of any show. Every pilot you're like, oh, I would never watch community based on the pilot. Yeah. Have you ever, like if that's the last time any of you've seen. No. I mean, that's decent. But like a few recently I've watched them. Like these are terrible.
Starting point is 01:29:26 How do these shows become the best shows ever? You're so bad. Do yourselves a favor. Go watch the Friends pilot. It's horrendous. The Seinfeld pilot, horrendous. There are so many bad, bad, bad pilots. And the only time they ever really are any good is when they filmed the whole thing at once and they didn't have to wait for approval. So be like that. Just go. Get in. Bam, boom. Say your stuff. Make your thing. You know. And here's how we're going to help this guy specifically. Well, I'm going to propose something and we'll see what you guys think of this. The best way to be, okay, we're doing it right now. We are his support group right now, right? We are saying, dude, just poop it out. It's at a time. You got this. Like, it doesn't have to be perfect. That you need human beings to remind you that what you are offering, this baby you're about
Starting point is 01:30:16 to birth is important to them because it's important to you. And you just need that. We all need that, right? And so I think sometimes especially, I don't know if he's like walking around the office, like hello other lawyer would you like to be my support system it's probably doesn't feel very comfortable right so i assume writing into this show this is a fan of the show and uh yeah hopefully still yeah right right maybe not after this but we'll see um but i don't know is there a discord channel of people in the same boat right are there people um i mean i could do it under my stuff too
Starting point is 01:30:54 but just people who are trying to do creative endeavors and just need to the support. And sometimes that might be just, you're not trying to make any money off of this. You just would like to balance your life out and want to do a hard thing. And you just need that support. So accountability, timely, like what I mean by the accountability is like someone's saying, okay, this is what I'm working on. And then the next time you chat with them, they tell you like, did you do the thing you said you were going to do? So you just, we're more likely to do something if people know we're doing it, but we are less likely if we put it on the internet, right?
Starting point is 01:31:33 Do you guys know this concept? If I tell everyone I'm running a marathon, then everyone on the internet, I am less likely to run that marathon. But if I tell two or three of my support system, this is what I'm doing. And then we get specific about how they can help me. I'm more likely to run it.
Starting point is 01:31:48 So true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that for sure. Yeah, I want to hear with this guy, does like I'm actually really want to read his book like I want to see what comes out of this and in order to do that he's going to have to you know go for it's like you know it's so easy to talk yourself out
Starting point is 01:32:08 of stuff like when I wanted to make dungeon murder I just was like this is a huge undertaking why am I doing this and I went because you want to make a thing and you want to be able to say you made it and doesn't it be perfect and if it's great great if it's okay that's fine like whatever it is you pour your soul into it and get the thing done and be done and there's some really freeing, there's something freeing about that, you know, even if, even if you write this thing and the only people to read it your wife and three of your friends, still worth, I think it's worth the exercise, you know, because it'll either lead to more or it'll be a great learning experience one direction of the other. And it doesn't, I don't think you have to get as fiddly
Starting point is 01:32:47 about it. I say this is someone who gets way fiddly. So I understand, you know, I am definitely not have this stuff figured out either, but I think this is a good exercise for him. Right. And And imagine having somebody remind you of that on a regular basis, remind you that they want this in the world and they want to help you do it or they, and you want to help them, right? That part is just, I think, crucial. So I want him to think about how to create that and then really manage time. Like I have a life that requires me to be, should get out of bed earlier, not use Beastie Boys, but I'm throwing out of steam.
Starting point is 01:33:26 But that idea of like, if you don't make the time, none of this will happen because time will always be taken by a kid needing a thing or the school calling or a job that takes a lot of effort. So find where you're,
Starting point is 01:33:42 you know, where you can balance that, but just dedicate some time. It's going to make a big difference. Yeah, I agree. Let us know. We'd love to know how it goes. Wendy,
Starting point is 01:33:52 any thoughts updates otherwise stuff going on with the new program or anything you want to mention here on the show. Well, seeing my Beastie Boys thing is giving you a hint. No, it's good. A couple, I'm starting to do some things this summer. You're going to, you'll get notice when it's ready, but this is good accountability, Scott. So we're doing it right now. Accountable.
Starting point is 01:34:13 By July 1st, you will have really good information in your hands. Oh, that's fantastic. Well, you know, summer's a little crazy. Things are kicking off. Kids are getting out of school. Stuff's going on. But that is good to hear. so people keep your eye on the prize.
Starting point is 01:34:25 We'll, of course, talk about it here on the show. And Wendy, we wish you nothing but a fantastic week ahead. Thank you. All right. We'll see you later. Okay. May nobody chase you with a bag of chewed pizza. That's all I can say.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah, my brother's weird. All right. Let's do, oh, I got one more of these numbers to try. Somebody just sent one final text then. We're going to try this one. When are we going to learn, Scott? Are we going to learn? We're going to learn this.
Starting point is 01:34:51 This is the time we learn. All right? this is supposedly something we would like this person left no name which makes me nervous but we're gonna try it uh-huh let's see allow for the microphone here go okay oh it just hangs up well whatever oh he wrote back and said this is how to call Captain America then he quoted something viewers and fans can call Captain America
Starting point is 01:35:13 briefly for his interesting voice message okay well it didn't work well then what's the point of that if you're gonna send me one that works Then I'll call. Okay, how about this one? There's another one. Hello, Ola, Yata. You called Saul. You reached the offices of Saul Goodman and Associates.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Your one-stop shop for all things law. If they've accused you of breaking bad, better call Saul. If you're currently under arrest or in custody, follow my three patented rules. One, keep your mouth shut. Two, keep your mouth shut. Three, don't make eye contact with anyone in a holding suit. unless you're looking to make a love connection.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Visit my website for more free advice. Better call, saul.com. The solution to your problems is just minutes away. Your call is important to us. Please continue to hold. They're going to make us hold? No, I... Press 1.
Starting point is 01:36:09 D-U-I, press 2. Slip and fall on government property. Press 3. Illegal animal smuggling. Press 4. It just goes on. It just goes on. All right, well, finally somebody sent me something I can work with.
Starting point is 01:36:22 It's good use of it, yes. Yeah, thank you for finally doing the thing he said you were going to do, people. All right. That is it for today's show. Don't forget today sometime. Coverville will come up. Keep around, Brian's social and stuff. Yeah, we'll let you know.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Just, you know, subscribe, like and subscribe, smash that bell. You'll be notified when I go live. That's right. Yeah, but Alanis Morissette. It's good, like, boy, I had some fun picking these songs. There's some great ones. We love her. She's, you know, she's both ironic.
Starting point is 01:36:50 America's sweetheart. America's favorite America's favorite theater guest. Yeah, or I guess she's Canadian's favorite. That's true. Canada's favorite theater guest. That's true.
Starting point is 01:37:00 You can't do that in Canada. We kind of, we adopted her. She's great down here. We like her. Yeah, and she played for a while with Taylor Hawkins. Yeah, what else can you ask for? Really?
Starting point is 01:37:09 Mm-hmm. For some reason, show notes just closed and I don't know why. Hold on a second. There we go. I closed the tab without meaning to. Also, don't forget that you can head on over to frogpants.com
Starting point is 01:37:21 schedule. That'll tell you everything else that's coming up for the weekend. Film Sack, Core, all that. Quick note, tomorrow's play date will be at 10 a.m. Mountain Time right here. We'll play with you. Play Retro will be at 12.30 tomorrow. And Core is tomorrow because we want to be there for Games Fest. We're not doing it tonight. It'll be tomorrow. Games Fest tomorrow will be a live watch-along episode. We do it every year. We're doing it again this year. It happens to be on a Friday. So check that out tomorrow night. And what else? I said Film Sack. I'm sure there's other things. Oh, in that interview with my brother just went up. So if you have a way to listen to the diary, go check that out as well. That is going to do it for us. Oh, and get your swag bags.
Starting point is 01:37:59 If you didn't get one, you couldn't come to Vegas for whatever reason. It's definitely cheaper than the one that included the ticket, because tickets cost money too. But also, it's a little bit on sale. So go check it out, frogpants.com slash store and you click it and you're in and you just choose it. Apparently there was something wrong with checkout a minute ago, but it all seems to be working fine now. Good deal. Yeah, it seems to all be fine. So go check it out. That's going to do it. Brian, get out of here with the song. What do you got? I've got a song going out to Josh. Josh of all said, I just subscribed on Twitch with my
Starting point is 01:38:28 free prime sub for the 48th month. Jeez. Thanks, Josh. Thanks for the four years of support for this. That's awesome. Josh says, anything by the lounge kittens. By the way, he wrote this two months ago, but he didn't have a date on it. So it got put into a fill the hole.
Starting point is 01:38:44 By the way, speaking of filling the hole, got a lot of open days for June. So get those requests in. birthdays, anniversaries, uh, uh, love this song and want to hear it, or I don't know if you've got a cover of this or that and, uh, whatever, uh,
Starting point is 01:39:03 go to, what is it? go to frogpence.com slash TMS and you'll see the link to make a request. Yep. All right, lounge kittens, uh, from their sequins and C-bomb's album from 2016. This is the one I pulled out that I really, really enjoy.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Um, kind of in that same, uh, postmodern jukebox style with a little bit of the Andrews sisters thrown in for good measure. Here is ACDC's Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. Have a great weekend. If you're having trouble with your high school head, Giving you the blues You want to graduate But not in his bed
Starting point is 01:39:57 Here's what you've got to do Pick up the phone I'm always home Call me anytime Just ring 36, two four three six Hey, I need a life of crime
Starting point is 01:40:12 Dirty deeds Done dirt cheap Dirty deeds Done dirt cheap Dirty Dooey's done dirt cheap Dirty D Dund dirt cheap Dirty deeds and the
Starting point is 01:40:25 Dund dirt cheap Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap You've got problems in your life of a love You've got a broken die He's doubled in with your best friend That's when the teardrops Die Pick up the phone I'll be alone
Starting point is 01:40:46 Or make a social car Come right in Forget about him We'll have ourselves a ball Hey dirty deeds Dund dirt cheap Dirty deeds Dund dirt cheap
Starting point is 01:41:02 Dirty deeds Dund dirt cheap Dirty deeds and the Dunderdier cheap Dirty deeds and the Dund tercheet Wounder Cheat Wow Bona do N nao Niao
Starting point is 01:41:16 Niaw Well wau na nao nao If you got a lady and you want her gone, but you ain't got the guts, she keeps nagging at your night and day, enough to drive you nuts. Pick up the phone, leave her alone. It's time you made us stand for a fee, I'm happy to be. You're back dumbed. Dirty Deeds, Dundercheep.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap. Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap. Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap. Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap. Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap. This show is part of the FrogPants Network. Yes. Get more at frogpant.com.

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