The Morning Stream - TMS 2660: Kissing Kansas

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

Moist Owlettes. Subaru Juggalo. Spaghetti Midwestern. High Percentage of Wackadoo. Optimus Prime Megatron. This diner is so good you'll bust a gut! Bjork It, Girl. The cough sneeze colon removal. Cat turd jello. King FertInHand. Autobots, steal cars. Sex, Drugs, and Monopoly. Get on the Horny. I Don't Like MSRPeeeeee. Ripping Down the Walls with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, January 13th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Gibbitt. Hello. Hello, everybody. We're here.

Hope you're all well. It's Thursday. You know what that means. It means that you've got to come to class a little later for teacher Wendy to teach you a thing or two about life. That's right. Yep. Although today's is going to be more about Jeff. But anyway, we'll get to.

Yeah, I'm so excited to find out. I have not read ahead, actually, to see how we're going to help with Jeff. Actually, now that I'm glancing at it, this is more helping Wendy, isn't it? Yeah, well, he thinks it is. Yeah, he thinks it's helping her, but I bet she's got other thoughts. We'll see. I don't know. But, Jeff, it'll be fun to attack your question as we do all questions.

I wish we could get them on the horn for this one. Yeah. I love it. The horn. I haven't heard that in a while. I like that. I want to start saying horn again. I say that all the time.

Get them on the horn. Get them on the horn. That's such a great old school thing. Time to bring it back. I was told today that skinny jeans are gone. again. We're going back to the baggies. While we're at it, let's get to the let's say, get them on the horn.

Get them on the horn. All right. I'm in. Bring it back, baby. I love to know the origination of that. Is it just because the old handsets looked like that circular, half-circular shape like a horn? Get on the horn. Like when they used to. Although it feels like they even, like

Potter would say that to radar. Get there, get General McKinley on the horn. I want to tell them about this G-problem we're having with well according to the dictionary let's see here's a use case Tom get on the horn to the hospital and let

them know you're coming in with a victim it says to make use of or speak to someone on the telephone well we know that I'm trying to find the origin here oh there's a second definition that I'm not so comfortable with to become lustful or sexually excited

so if you want to get on the horn I guess you just just get horny or whatever. Oh, that's funny. Here it is. Sarah became quite embarrassed when she noticed that her date was getting on the horn in the middle of the movie. That's the use case. Great.

Anyway, I can't find the origin, so this was a big waste of time. I'm going to predict that whatever we find, it's going to be because old handsets were horn shaped, right? Because it was like, I'm making the hang loose Hawaii shape with my hands, because that is the old. symbol for phone. Oh, I found people still should use this, right? I think they should.

I think so. Even though, like, give this person a call. It's like you're holding a bar of soap to your cheek. Yeah, if they're across the room at a party, Brian, you see them and you're like, I want you to call me. You go like this, right? That's the universal sign. You don't go, and that'd be lame.

Right. So we're not doing that. Okay, I found it. This refers refers to a device used on ships, the nautical term. in contact with the engine room of the bridge. It was an actual tube with both ends flared like a horn. So like if you were on a old boat in the 30s, you would literally get on the horn and go,

engine room where you need full power to the stern or whatever. That's your horn. Interesting. Okay. All right, good. And then the guy with the boner in the movie theater as well. That's the other one. All right, you guys look.

Sometimes we say things and then you correct us. Brian and I both We've been talking about EVs And we've made the comment that I wish Subaru had an EV And they do They have one Oh really?

Okay Yeah, I'm going to put a picture up I'll put it in the Discord as well This is a car called the Soltera Soltera I've heard of the Soltera I didn't realize that was a Subaru Okay

I saw Solterra That's I think I would have thought It's a Nissan But I like that It does sound like a Nissan Doesn't it Nissan name for sure on Sultera. Yeah, totally does.

But that's, you know what I really like about this car is the wheel wells, the black? I like that too. Yeah. Very cool. Anyway, this is a car. Here's what he says. Subaru makes an EV called Sultera. If you're ever driving and see a car that looks like a juggalo, it's probably a Sultera.

Chris from Oakley, Utah. Well, thanks, Chris. I can't unsee it now. I totally know what he means. It's like, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Who's the, is a Lobo in the D.C. universe that kind of has the, uh, the white face and the black eyes.

Yep, absolutely. We just had one who would be Domino from the Marvel Universe. Yeah, at first I like this black. Now I can't get it out of my head. Oh, it looks like it does look like, okay, I'm back to it. I'm back to liking. It does look like a first order of stormtrooper. Oh, that's cool.

There are a lot of cars that kind of have that first order of stormtrooper look. Yeah. And all the EVs have to have that curve because they need the wind resistance to be as low as humanly possible. So they all kind of have it. I don't know. I'd drive that. I'd like Subaru a lot. I'm going to have to look into it.

I'd drive that in a heartbeat. My neighbor would never speak to me again because he hates Subaru's, and it's really because the people around here either drive like maniacs or drive like they're just kind of coasting with the foot off the gas, you know, the amount of speed that you normally do when your car is on, an automatic vehicle is on, but not being accelerated. Gotcha. I mean, I get that.

I think it, I don't know. I'm trying to think of a car that I would be adverse. to driving because of the kind of driver. Like, I used to feel this way about sobs a little bit. They're pretty snobby. But no one buys there's no sobs anymore. They're gone. What would it be now? Maybe BMW

still annoy me a little bit, but I'd take one. You give me one. I'll take it. This thing costs, let me give you a price. Oh, here it is. MSRP starting price, 44,000, 995, which is about normal for your average car like this. Let's see. What is our distance on it? Tons of, tons of government rebates and

subsidies go along with that tax breaks because you're buying an EV, which helps a lot. Probably get it down to 30,000. Supports Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. That's good news. Nice. Let's see. You got roof rails. I don't know why I would care about that. Doesn't give me distance. What's my, oh, 228 miles of range. Not bad. Just, it's kind of in there in the zone. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

I'll put it on the list of considerations whenever this happens in my life. Cool. Yesterday is history today. Yesterday is history today. Time to rip through some history that happened today many, many years ago. I'm going to start with a more modern one. In 1995, this is for you, Brian. I thought of you when I looked this up.

Yeah. Bjork. You know, Bjork? Bjork, which I think is, we're supposed to pronounce bierk. Is it? Burek? Oh, yeah, it's bierke. Oh, shit, it's worse. I know, I know.

How could that may possibly get worse? Bierke. I think that's, that is how we're supposed to be pronouncing it. It's, it's, uh, yeah, don't pronounce it like it looks. No, my daughter tried to, when she was in Iceland, they had a whole plan for a big concert, uh, at a place she owns in Iceland. So in Reykivik, there's a place, there's a place, there's a place, yeah, there's a place that she owns, that she was going to perform at. And so Carter and all these other exchange student people

were all had plans to go. And then there was some hideous snowstorm that, like, canceled the whole thing. So she couldn't see it. Anyway, she may have gotten on stage and said, I'm Bjerk. I'm Bjerk. Blow all their minds.

Anyway, Bjerk released her second art pop solo album post in 1995. Oh, yeah. Remember that? That's a great album, too, because it's got the one where she lives on a mountain top and she's throwing, and throwing, things off to make me feel whole again, or whatever it is.

Isabel, my name's Isabel. Those are good songs. You know what? Army of me. Oh my God, army of me. Yeah. Let's go listen to some Bjerk today. You'll face an army of me. Yeah, she's great. She really, she's the

Cape Pearson that came out of the B-52s that was the sugar cubes because the pear I want to say Pear Gessel but that's the guy from Roxanne or Roxette I mean Per something

is the Fred Schneider of the sugar cubes She's sick for toys Oh he says he just does a lot of talking I like that He does all that stuff yeah I like a good tie it's not really rap It's more like it's just talking Really yeah it's just talking it's just kind of talk yelling

Necro sexes I like the Bjork video where the mailbox danced with her, that's this album, too. It's So So Quiet, which was a cover of a Betty... Boop. Yeah, Betty Boop sign. Betty...

Shoot, I got to look it up. Betty... Betty Hutton. Betty Hutton song. All right. I was going to try to confuse you further, but you got it. You nailed it. Yeah. Betty Draper.

Betty Draper. That's right. No face. No emotion face. Betty Draper. Fantastic. Great album. Post. Maybe the best Bjork album, actually. Now, I think about it. hype uh or the was the one after it um it's the one shoot venus as a boy was on that one or was

venus as a boy on the other one um oh i can't remember well to celebrate i'm going to listen to post today i'm going to listen to post today yeah yeah i'm going to totally check it out also in the year 1774 we're going backwards in time here okay in the year 1774 on this day just to counteract the one we did the other day about louisiana getting their first slaves, Rhode Island becomes the first colony, because that's as yet not, you know, we're not the United States, still a colony. First colony to prohibit the importation of slaves. Oh, okay. That's pretty nice. That is pretty nice. Yeah. All right, good. Well done. It's Rhode Island, the original Yankees, nicely done. And then finally, in 1373. This is amazing to me.

I don't know about you, Brian. I'd like a little history here and there. Sure, sure. History is fascinating. If we don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it. That's right. That's what I've always heard. I also heard the winner's right history. King said that, I believe. Oh, was it King? Okay. It was King said that. Yeah, but it'll have to be Dr. Doom because that all got messed up. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Reconning. Anyway, in 1373, Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of Perpetual Alliance, that's what it was called, the world's oldest still in existence treaty of any of its kind. It's still in existence. It's still in existence. It's still

held and it's the only one that's that old. All other treaties either got shattered or changed or tweaked or lost or whatever. But this treaty of perpetual alliance signed between London, King Edward III of England, and King Ferdinand I of Portugal, still in effect today. Wow. That's pretty cool. Look at them getting along. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. Nice job, guys. Nice when something lasts. Yeah. And then they both real quickly. gotten boats and went and wrecked the rest of the world. But still, Portugal less so. I guess. You know, they had their time. They had their moment. That's right. Portugal's biggest impact is what South America and Brazil, like that's their biggest impact, right? Portugal

wise. I'm trying to think of what else they did. They're not like the British or the French or even the Spanish with their conquests. I think Portugal kind of just kind of halfway did shit. It's like, yeah. We'll just take this little chunk of South America and call it, you know, call it good. Yeah. Brian, we have a new theory on your actor girl. Would you like to hear it? Okay. I'd like to hear it. It's from a show you like. Bum, bong. All right, here's what it is. Brian's actor girl is the subject. This is a text we got that says, Brian, the woman in your dreams is Krista Bell from Twin Peaks. And for all we know with her affiliation with David Lynch, she could be dreaming us all, just to jam in the ham. She could be planting herself in all of our dreams.

Not her, but, I mean, maybe not that dream, but I might have had other dreams about Cristobel. Sure. Yeah, I think she was just in the, was she just in the newer, the newer Twin Peaks thing? Oh, I don't know. I'm such a bad Twin Peaks person. I don't know who's in what. Tammy Preston was her character, and I think. She looks too young to be in the first one, right?

She's too young. I know, doesn't she? Yeah. yes this was this was part of the new blue rose task force for the for the Twin Peaks yeah V2 reboot she was born in 78 so yeah too young to be in the original one be that young yeah she'd been 14 for the original Twin Peaks she's also good what's that other thing I saw her in oh Emmett Walsh that's it that's exactly who it was by our cow it's Emmett Walsh not Kate Walsh but Emmett Walsh oh of course Emmett Walsh yeah Emmett Walsh

uh no not her but a very similar look i still haven't i watched archer last night so i didn't get back to um back over to to silicon valley yeah but uh yeah it's like i'm gonna find this woman damn it i know we're gonna find her i just got an email right this second with another theory let's check it out let's go to the new theory here it is uh whoops where to go give me a name all right here we go uh here's a one for bry again, no name on this one, came via the text line 801-47-1-0-4-6-2. Is it possible that the woman you dreamed of was from Season 5, Episode 5, of Better Things, Lennon Perram is her name.

Oh, spell that. Lennon, like John Lennon, Lennon, Lennon, L.E-N-N-O-N-O-N, and then last name, Param, which is P-A-R-H-A-M. My theory is that your brain mixed Pam Aldon's look, which is more of Wendy Malick, and Lennon Perram, who played a super mean receptionist in this episode. Oh, yeah. I remember her now.

She's been in a lot of stuff. Boy, I don't, definitely not her. But I'm trying to think of what I know this woman from. And it's not just, what do I know this woman from? She has a lot of voiceover stuff, it looks like. A lot of voiceover stuff, yeah. I don't know her. His face is not familiar to me.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, Jimmy's still convinced that it's a composite of a bunch of women. And as I visualize this person in my head, I can't think of who I, I would Frankenstein, who I would weird science to make this woman. Like, I could think of who I would composite to make this woman that is, that I'm visualizing. Yeah. Because the, because right now, the visualization I have is not from the dream.

The visualization I have is from whatever I saw her in. Right. If I was still visualizing this woman coming up to me in the dream and saying, hey, Daniel Kuluya, why are you hanging out in this cost plus world market, looking at bottles of weird European soft drinks? I'd say genie's on to something, but this, this, this, this is, this is, it's not my head. I swear to God, it's not in my head. No, but you know what? Everyone everywhere, I just want to say this. Everyone everywhere is really glad that this has taken over from carbonated meat.

We're done with that, I think. Right. The shift, the focus is shifted. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys, look, I still, occasionally a message will trickle in saying, hey, did you have beef made with whatever? Yeah. Kelly LeBrock, been in many of my dreams, but not in this particular one.

Yeah, Brian dreams, he dreams about everybody. He's got all these women. I had a big crush on Kelly LeBrock back in the 80s. My gosh, she was. I think we all did. She was awesome. Holy crap. I would have worn a jockstrap on my head and played on an Apple II computer if I could have generated her in my room.

Yeah. What was that one with Gene Wilder where she's naked? in red. Yeah, she was necked in that. She was naked, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Okay, all right. Remember that? She's naked. The origination of that horrible I just called to say, I love you song from Stevie Wonder.

His one miss. Stevie Wonder's one missed song was that, I just called to say. One missed meaning not a good song, you're saying? Yeah, yeah, a good song. Everything else out of Stevie Wonder, top notch. I tend to agree. Who was I watching, who was I watching yesterday that was

talking about Stevie Wonder and it was cracking me up. Oh, Dr. Dre was on whatever show that is that who's the little tiny comedian that works with the rock. Kevin, Kevin, no, Kevin Hart. Oh, Kevin Hart. You described Pat Nosswell the other day as the little tiny comedian. Yeah, I always think of their size. But anyway, Kevin Hart's a little tiny guy. And he's has this, I don't know what show that is. I've never seen it. I always see clips from it, but he has some showy-ho, or it's like a talk show famous people comedians and stuff come on and he had dr dr dr day on and dray i guess used to get messages all the time or phone calls all the time from um stevie wonder which i thought it was just interesting yeah so he would he would call him and like comment on some

rap that he wrote and tell them where they should change this or change that or he like get all these opinions back back when those guys were taken off you know in their rap careers yeah it was fascinating that he even cared like what does he care I'm kidding. But he would call and the way Drey was telling the story

it was really funny. That's cool. People should seek that out. Did you ever watch that greatest, was it the greatest night in pop culture and music history?

No, it's funny you say that because I'm watching the gentleman right now trying to hurry up through it so I can make it my recommend until next time. I guess we don't have a show next Wednesday, but. You have two weeks. Yeah, I need to quit rushing, I guess.

But every time I go in there, my cue, it's my currently in the queue, it's my number one cue item is that thing. And I just, every time I see it, I'm like, why haven't you watched that yet? I don't know why. There is a, there is, and I won't spoil it because when it happens it, you'll find it the greatest thing ever, but a moment between Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles in that, in that documentary and something that somebody says, I care of everyone who says it. They don't like slam into each other in a hallway or something like that. No, they do not slam into each other.

that'd be funny I mean it'd be funny it'd be a little sad but also funny yes I need to finally watch that damn thing and get it over with Amy I've not watched season two of Outer Range yet but I did recommendal season one and I'm so excited to start

season two I think tonight we just started sugar which was a Nicole recommendal and damn it is it is compelling as hell yeah it is so good Apple TV Plus makes no shit they make no shit and it's

very, but it's very, um, I don't want to say disjoinedly filmed, but it's very, uh, almost distractingly, camera angley filmed. Sure. That's a professional way of saying it. Yeah, that's, I hear cinematographers using that phrase all the time. It's very camera angley film. I really want to see it. I'm excited about that one.

Yeah, it's good. Also on my list of, no more, no more about the twist. That's why we're rushing through sugars because I know there's a twist. I don't know what it is. Right now, I cannot even figure out where it could be going. But I'm so excited to see what, you know, what the hush-hush twist is about sugar. Stephanie wrote in, I don't know if this is our Stephanie or a different Stephanie, meaning the more common. It's a stuff that is here in Denver for a while, helping animals at the K-9.

clinic okay so this is that stuff all right is that stuff yeah hi how do we know that though because of all the fs in her signature oh they always put a four fs in there okay yeah yeah she has a lot of fs to give she says hi you two just wanted to let you know you can call deaf people deaf and deaf culture they do not view themselves as impaired which they are not and saying such is considered actually an insult calling deaf people hearing impaired is a hearing person's perspective that deaf people lack something when really they can live normal lies without hearing. If they are lacking some hearing, you can say hard of hearing

love stuff. Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. I didn't think death was a problem. I don't know why. I don't know why I did. I felt like, I felt like death had gotten replaced like it's because we live in a culture where everybody's always doing this. I know. It feels like

it feels like someone's always offended by some word that I'm using. Well, plus, okay, let's look at the truth of this. You and I are the kind of guys that don't want to hurt people's feelings on purpose. So if we are informed about a thing, then fine, then we try to act accordingly. Sometimes stuff will slip, my whole, the whole mess with my granny panties comment two weeks ago or whatever it was. You know, it got me in all kinds of heat.

I didn't know why until people told me. Now I understand. In this particular case, or what happens with this is we end up feeling like, oh, well, I want to be cautious. So when I hear something like Def, I go, oh, is that still, is that okay? Is Def okay? Right, exactly. Yeah, no, when I was saying death, when I was describing the situation yesterday, I was like, is death still the okay term? And then mistakenly said, hard of hearing, and that's where this all came from.

Right. I'll just go ahead and recap yesterday for those of you who missed it. Yeah, you're all caught up. Yeah, now you guys are you going to have to even listen to the episode. Or guess it was two days ago. Right, exactly. Whenever it was. I don't remember when we talked about it.

All right, well, that's all you can stand for our top of the show stuff. Now it's time for you all to be informed and learn about what happened in the world while you slept. It's time for the news brought to you by. Brought you by what are baby owls called. Yeah. Trivia for me. I've always called them outlets, I think. Brian, my gosh.

Yes. You are correct. It is outlets. Okay, all right, outlet. Yeah. Jeez. Okay, hold on. There we go.

And it's also sometimes referred to as nestlings, nestlings. Nestlings, but owlets. Nestlings, really? Yeah. But owlets is the chief one. Nestlings is just kind of a backup. Nice job. Brian, a man named Optimus Prime.

Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. We also got to tell you about my coverbts today. What's going on with Colorville? This will be an interesting one. Coverville today, an artist that I've never featured on the show before, mostly because I don't know Prog Rock like my partner in crime on soundography, Hammond, Chamberlain. That dude knows Prog Rock. My friend Hammond knows Prog Rock.

Me, I know some Prog Rock, and I know a little bit about King Crimson, And I know a little bit about the super group formed in the 80s called Asia. Heat of the Moment. Come on. We all love that. All love that song. In the heat of the moment. That's the one right there.

Well, a lot of it is shared by a dude named John Whetton, who passed away, I think, 2017, passed away about seven years ago. But he is celebrating, would have been celebrating a birthday. And so it's time to celebrate John Whetton and all of his many iterations. And the dude has done a ton of covers. So you're going to have covers of Pink Floyd and the Beatles and stuff like that. But then you're also going to hear some covers of some Asia classics, heat of the moment being one of them. I think the smile has left your eyes.

Their ballad that was a big hit. So we get all that. And a whole bunch more today, a regular time because I did a one hour ride this morning. It was hot enough this morning that I did one pre-show. So I'll be able to jump right into Coverville at noon. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.tv slash coverville, 12 p.m. Mountain Time. Check it out. Yes. All right. Let's get to the story about a guy named Optimus Prime. All right. All right. He rolled out and he's all sitting up. Did he have his name legally changed to Optimus Prime?

It's a good question. I think so because the article treats it as such, but they don't actually explicitly say. Right. Because they would, because I think they would say Optimus Prime, whose real name is, Larry Gamalca. They don't do that. Earlier this week, so he got arrested for car theft in South Austin, so down there in the Texas zone there. Austin police arrested a suspected car thief with a very strange name. According to court documents,

37-year-old Optimus Prime Blakely. I feel like you've got to do something about your last name. I mean, make so his first name, Optimus, middle name, Prime, and then last name Blakely. Doesn't fit. It should be Optimus Prime AllSpark or something. Change your last name to Megatron

or something like that or Optimus Prime Megatron. Like Brian a bit Earth. Yeah. I like that. They were not Decepticons. They were the what was the good group called?

That's how little I know about you. That's Autobots. Autobots. Decepticons are the bad guys. So Optimus Prime Autobot. Perfect. Right there. There's his last name. Sure.

What is the name? Cybertron's their home planet. So you could have gone Optimus Prime. Oh, Cybertron. That's right. What was Megatron? Anything? He's the main bad guy.

He's your chief bad guy. Oh, that's right. That's right. Okay. So that'd be like me saying, my name is Brian a bit Claire. Yeah. That would be it. Yeah.

This is him here. No more Optimus Prime. That's him there. Gotcha. Okay. Anyway. His worst enemy. Okay.

Yeah, his worst is the arch enemy, really. According to documents, 37-year-old Optimus Prime, faces a charge of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. The affidavit says officers stopped Blakely on Tuesday after they said they caught him driving a stolen vehicle. Shouldn't he be the vehicle? Said Joey's, do you want to be the vehicle you want to be in this life? Be the become the vehicle you want to be?

Right, yes. Anyway, they saw him driving a stolen car on Congress Avenue near Radham Lane in South Austin. The man with the Transformers-inspired name remains in the Travis County Jail with Bonset at $8,000. So there you go. Optimus Prime, you're in trouble, buddy. Yeah, watch out for your tailpipe.

Yep, look out. Maybe plug that up or something. Yeah. Watch out for the guys trying to get in your trunk. That's right. You're in your tractor trailer. Yeah, they're Deceptic cons. Get it con, ex-con, con.

Get it, Deceptic cons. I gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, here's a story about a man who coughed and sneezed so hard at a U.S. diner. Oh, God. His colon fell out. I was, I was expecting you to say he pooped his pants, but, oh gosh, fell out. Fell out. Out of out.

Had he just, had he just had a, um, I was going to say colonoscopy. What's the thing where, uh, they, a colonic. Did he just had a colonic and so things were, well, I don't think you're too. Let's just say wide and loosened up. You're not super far from the thing because it was a surgery-related thing, but we'll get to that. Oh, gosh, okay. The man who was with his wife at a Florida restaurant felt a, I hate reading this, a wet sensation. Oh, wet sensation.

Which, after which came a sharp pain, I imagine so. The man had recently undergone abdominal surgery with doctors assuring him that his incision had completely healed. And when he lifted up his shirt, he saw several inches of his colon coming out, his surgical wound. So I think this is actually coming out of the front of him, like, or you get like... Oh, well, yeah, lifted up his shirt, yeah. Yeah, so right out front. Okay, yeah, so the incision, right, right, right.

So, um... It's not his bum hole. It's not his bum hole. No. It's out of his front hole. But not that front hole. No. The man had recently undergone abdominal surgery with the doctors assuring the incision

had healed. As I mentioned, an ambulance was summoned and paramedics came. When they arrived, they found three inch opening with large amounts of bowel, visible throughout. Luckily, the blood loss was minimal and there was no damage to the exposed organ. This was the thing that warned me about when I got my appendix out when I was a kid

because now they do that lathroscopically to go through your belly button and just take care of it. When I was a kid and had my thing, they weren't doing that yet. It was still cut you open and deal with it. And I remember the doctor were going, now don't be jumping on the trampoline

or riding any bikes for a while. You don't want this to open up. Whatever you knew, don't cough and sneeze at the same time. Yeah. That's pretty intense. So does he now have a semi-tolon? He's got an exclamation point for the moment.

Let's see. Let's see. The man retained or remained in hospital for six days after he was discharged when reportedly recovered without any complications. This is called Dehe-de-he-science. I don't know how he said. Dehesiants? How would you say it?

Dehiscence. Dehescence? Yeah, because there's no second eye. so yeah this is what happens when uh this is literally the different that's the word you use when you have a reopening of a surgical wound probably of any kind it's reportedly a rare occurrence uh rare occurrence that happens in three out of 100 people that's pretty low uh if they undergo abdominal or pelvic surgeries the uh currents is believed to be more common in elderly patients well yeah because your your tissues are all shitty it's pronounced dehiscence by the way

dehiscence okay dehiscence Duh, Hissons. It's a schwa for the E. The condition can be fatal in four out of ten patients, though. So if it happens to you, if you're one of the three out of a hundred that get it, four out of ten of you are going to die. That's pretty awful. Exposed organs and all that. Anyway, I'm glad he's okay.

If you sneeze and cough out your colon, your meal's free at Bob's Diner. That's right. I was going to say, I mean, if I own that place, I would try to make things better. You know? Oh, sure. I don't know what I'd do, but whatever. He had recently gone through prostate cancer. His surgery went well. Everything was great, but it just didn't hill very well.

Comes with a free ice cold Coca-Cola. Yeah. I see what you did there. Thank you. Let's see. Surgeons, oh, they say that this is among the best closures for a wound. It just didn't hold.

So what they call it? Let's see, performing a figure. figure of eight stitches performed figure of eight stitches oh i see figure of eight stitches yeah like um to cross it which right you'd think would be yeah i mean this is among the most advanced and strongest closures well 98 out of a hundred times it is so okay exactly just ask just ask johnny weir and uh i care remember his his partner is ice skating partner in crime but uh oh yeah wait Johnny Weir and Oh shit

We're about to see them again because they're doing Summer Olympic coverage for some unknown reason Why can't I think of it? Amanda, no, Alice, it's an A, isn't it? Or am I? Maybe she's the woman in her dreams, maybe. No, she definitely isn't. Okay.

It'd be funny if it's... Tara Lipinski. Yeah, Terrell Lipinski. Oh, Tara Lipinski. Oh, Teralapinski. John Lear and Terlepinski. Yep. Thank you, Defiant Geek and Kelly 138.

Thanks, chat room. Yeah, for those listening on audio, sometimes we refer to people in the chat and we don't tell you that, but that's where we're doing this. I try to. I try to thank those people. Yeah, those people are great. We love them. Yeah, exactly. Here's another one. A Texas Library. We're going to hop back over to Texas for a minute. Okay. Texas Library must reinstate books with butts and farts, according to the court.

Thank the heavens. Yes, we, yes, they should. As more and more Texas school boards seek to censor books deemed too controversial or sexual in content, a conservative court in Texas ruled Friday that government entities, including public libraries, cannot just ban or censor books they disagree with. The ruling has far-reaching implications for the broader movement in Texas to restrict books from the school shelves. In recent years, school boards in SciFair, Caddy or Katie, I'm not sure what that is. Katie. Katie is a town south Houston. My dad used to live in Periland, and we went to Katie, which is

kind of like the area that we went to and Katie was really fun. lot of restaurants and right on the water that's where we went sailing from katie katie's nice nice um apparently they also now cannot ban farts and but good let's see here but uh far beyond remove or have moved to ban books deemed too controversial including young adult and children's books that show quote unquote butts uh cause sexual arousal or depict lgp a btq plus relationships in 2022 texas attempted to ban more books than any other state, according to the American Library Association. The case

itself originated from the parent complaints that books in the Leano, Lano, not sure that's a Leano. Probably Yano. Two L's? Yeah, Yano. I missed where that's at. This is a Spanish thing. Yeah, Yano. Yano. County public library system showed butts and

farts, prompting local officials to instruct the library director to take the books off the shelves. Fits and Farts and Farts. Officials then requested the director to Cole books that contain certain pornographic filth, unquote. That's their quote. The list of offending titles

include a book about farting lepracons. A book about a transgender teen, two books about the history of racism in the United States and a book about puberty. Seven library patrons sued to reinstate the books claiming the censorship violated the First Amendment. Totally

agree. After a discourse excuse me, a district court cited with the patrons and Yano residents appealed. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an injunction to reinstate the offending titles. Ordering the book should return to shells within 24 hours. So, good.

Take that. Buttholes. Take that. This book banning thing is just, it is completely, it's getting out of hand and it's, it's, I mean, I know I'm, this is where, you know, our beliefs completely

jive with our audience, right? We don't have a really controversial-like audience of saying, no, I think these books shook my brand. So it's like we're, you know, we're in league with our audience. So I know I'm preaching the choir. But it's just, it is, it is so out of hand. And the people decrying that they want their freedom, want the freedom of everything except for our kids to learn about other gender identities

and lifestyles and things like that. heaven forbid, they learn about any of this stuff in libraries. To me, it's simple. When people scream about their freedom, I have learned that they usually are just screaming about what they want. Right, their own, right, exactly, the freedom for them to do what they want. Yeah, again, it's back to that Simpsons episode where Homer made it and said, or no, Lenny and Carl made it to this cabin.

after trudging to the to the snow and carl's or lennie says we made it and it was all cause a teamwork and carl goes yeah my teamwork there's still one of the greatest pop culture lessons i ever got taught in my life it's a great like a far-reaching reference or a multi-leveled reference it works so much for so many things yeah uh finally we have this story finally yes Florida, man. We're down south all day today. I don't know why. Oh, good. Good. Well, you know, they tend to have the most fun crap to report. That's true. Although, I think the colon guy may have been in Britain or something. Anyway. Oh, okay. Florida man. Oh, yeah, never mind. Up his front was in Austin. That's right.

Yeah, he's an Austin guy. Florida man allegedly claims to be Mr. Monopoly with the birth date of 4269 during his arrest. That's awesome. Wow. All right. So, this guy, uh, likes sex, drugs, and monopoly. Yeah. These are three very, very disparate things, I suppose. You consider him smoking weed and playing Monopoly all night, I suppose. I guess so, yeah. Makes sense. A Florida man found himself in jail after he allegedly told police his name was Mr. Monopoly during his arrest. If he wasn't in a top hat and had a little stick or whatever,

forget it. What are you doing? Did he offer him 10 bucks each for winning the beauty page or coming in second place in the beauty pageant? Yeah. Did he pass go or got, did he go directly to jail? Yeah. Did you give him $200 when he walked by him? Yeah. They missed an opportunity, by the way. Fox 35 Orlando. This first line, a Florida man found himself in jail after allegedly told preys. It really should be a Florida man went directly to jail, did not pass go after allegedly telling police. His name was Mr. Brown.

Yeah, that's how you, didn't bother. That's how you sneak this shit in here. What are they doing? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Jerks. The man's real name is Ryan Howard. He's definitely not Mr. Monopoly. He was taken into custody and charged with criminal mischief and resisting arrest on Saturday,

according to an arrest affidavit from St. Petersburg Police Department. He is 33 years old, aren't they always, and was caught allegedly using spray paint on the sound barrier wall on this one street there in Petersburg. Police were able to find him since he was... Sorry, since he matched the description from several witnesses who said they saw him using black spray paint.

They did not say he looked like the Monopoly Man know he's got we think he has a monocle we can't remember if that's a mandela effect or not a top hat and his pockets are out and uh he's spray painting a completely useless looking iron on the sound barrier yeah he had the word community written on his chest we couldn't figure that out police spoke to him about uh or asked him about his name he did not respond at first after a few attempts though he told officers his name was mr monopoly he also reportedly provided his date of birth as 420 69 nice nice After checking his driver's license, people were able to fire, the police were able to verify that this was not the case. So, well done, well done. Not Mr. Monopoly. I mean, look, the Florida man.

But you took a chance. No, he did definitely take a chance, for sure. He also, what's another, oh, I lost it. I had a good one. Shit. He took a ride on the Reading Railroad. Close enough. That'll work.

Yeah. I was going to say, the stereotype of Florida man I don't like blanket stuff where people go like assign something to a whole generation or say that an entire city is like this or a whole state or a whole country or whatever I hate that stuff

sometimes it's fun and just idle teasing we like to give Irish people a little bit of shit mostly because we have a certain listener and reacts funny but we don't no one believes that those stereotypes are widespread but in the in the Florida case I'm not saying it's widespread either here I'm saying it's not but

why do these ones always seem to come out of your state? I'm guessing, I guess there's just a percentage higher of like Wackadoo stuff. Yeah. Is it, is it the heat, the humidity, the, the, the part, so much your state is bordered by water and you don't have the influence of as many other states that you share borders with? What do they just share like Georgia, Mississippi, I'm sorry, Alabama? Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana? Can you get, do they share a border with Louisiana? Not Florida, no.

They're on the other side of Mississippi, yeah. So they do with Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia. Is that it? Yeah, they just, they don't have any, they don't have enough influences of, you know, we have all of our, our friend states around who like, say, okay, Colorado, you know, keep yourself in line. Oh, you know what, I learned something today about, that's funny you say that.

Maine has even fewer. How come they're not Wackadoo? Yeah, what's going on with Maine? Yeah. I didn't know this, Brian. You live in the Midwest. Did you know that? I didn't know that.

I thought Colorado was still west. I thought it was still West. So is the Rocky Mountains, the line of demarcation between the West and the Midwest? So here's what it says. It always blew me away that Illinois was in the Midwest because I feel like that's so much further east. And I feel like if you drew a line down the middle of the U.S. And said, all right, everything left west of the line is the west, everything east of the line is the east, and then this would be the Midwest, and that would be the mid-east.

But we don't even say mid-east. Yeah. But I feel like, yeah. And there's no, I mean, there's nothing official. They did a poll of everyone living in the United States. And there's how it broke down, according to this, which I'll put in your discord. Oh, good. Okay.

So you can see this thing. Where to go? I don't know. I don't have anything west of Pennsylvania's Midwest that just blows my mind. Because the center, the geographic center of the contiguous United States is Kansas, isn't it? Like there's a point in Kansas that is the, oh, it's got to be, right? The geographic center of the, yeah, the, it's got to be. It's got to be.

Well, in all the polling, 41.1% of your people responded that they thought they were in the Midwest. Zero percent of Utah. There's an hundred percent of Utah. We definitely consider ourselves west. So this doesn't surprise me. but Idaho, that surprised me. They're 25.2. Wyoming at, what, 53.5?

I would call them west as hell. The very definition of Midwest is the middle of the west, right? I would think, well, yes, but that, but think of it. Or west of the middle. West of the Mississippi was the idea back in the day because we didn't know how far west we were going to go. So we didn't even know California at the time. So Midwest, when it was first called the Midwest, I think it has. That would have been right of center if you're looking at a map because we didn't know how far west the west was going to be.

So this map seems right to me in terms of the darker blue being the center of all this. What state is that? Iowa, the one of the very center there. 96.7, yeah, I guess that's Iowa, isn't it? Yeah, my definition of everything west of this line is the west and everything close to the west of that line is the Midwest. is the basically it's that it's the the chef right it's the chubby chef the minnesota or mini uh yeah Minnesota Iowa uh Arkansas um uh Louisiana that that vertical shape that you get with um with those yeah so that's interesting I don't know I didn't this came across my feet I can't remember even who sent it

to me but I was like really 42.1 percent of Coloradans consider themselves in the Midwest and maybe that's a ton of them that are like kissing kansas i don't know maybe that's where most of those people live i don't know but i think brian's in the west that's what i think it's fine it's i'm going with that um i don't know yeah i just it just blows i mean it feels so far east to say that somebody in indiana is in the midwest but if you look i think the other thing you look at is where the um the population is let less geographic and more like if you if you laid out where how many people live in all those spots, the line

of even on this side and even on this side, even to the east even to the west, would be far further east than than that kind of middle thing that I consider the geographic center. Yeah. Yeah, for me...

I wonder if there's got to be a map right that says, all right, population midpoint of the U.S. I wonder if there's a map that shows that. Here we go. The center of population is the average location of where people in the United States currently live. Based on data from the 2020 census, the current center of the population is near Hartville, Missouri.

Oh, that's interesting. The first center of population based on the 1790 census was located in Chestertown, Maryland. Yeah. So that was... So it shifts. It shifts west. It shifts. But, yeah, so right there in Missouri being the center of population.

So this is the map I just put in now, this green one, is what people mostly think of as the Midwest. So these are the states. And Colorado's not in there. Neither is Idaho. But for whatever reason, residents of those two states and others think they are to some degree. Yeah, that's interesting. But this makes sense to me. This would be the Midwest right here.

I like that. I'm happy to be in the West. I don't mind not being in the Midwest. Yeah, I like the West. The West is great. The West, the reason I always think of the West are states where there's just like vast amounts of space. and I know everyone thinks that that's how these places are. But Ohio's very compressed.

Indiana, very compressed. Illinois, you can drive from these places to each other in no time at all. It's like living in Britain and going to France. It's like, what, a half-hour flight or some shit like that? Yeah. Anyway, I like stuff like this. Yeah. It's, we don't call those movies Midwesterns with all that space and the vast space.

We call them Westerns. That's right. That's right. damn it. That's it for... Oh, look those John Ford Midwesterns. I love those Midwesterns. They're fantastic. That is it for today's news. We're going to

take a break when we come back. My sister Wendy will be here. That'll be all after a song Brian picked out and it's going to play now. What do you got there? Yeah, I think we may have played this band before quite a while ago, but they have a brand new album coming out called New Horizons. The band is called The Nomadic, and they've got some new singles

to report or to present. The the band is the best of Aussie rock talent with Miles Thomas from Leo Ronan Keating and Montgain on drums, Oliver Thorpe from the Whitlands Matt Corby and Meg Mac on guitar

and Brendan Clark also played for Meg Mac and Jack River on bass. Dan Frizz's producer who's worked with bands like Tones and I, King Princess and Guramal. If you're Australian you probably know a lot more of those than I do. I recognize like three things out of that list.

But I like this. This is a band called The Nomadic. They get their brand new album coming out soon, New Horizons. Here's the single, First Light. Daylight wakes me from my slumber. Last night, I feel you have my number. Daylight keeps me looking for you. Daylight, is it any wonder?

Your life keeps me from going under. Daylight I can't you see it They're frozen When nothing but you're Nothing but you're like to meet Won't you coming through my dreams again And let you go in

Then I find that way you do Oh, for you know, won't you come into my dreams again? Won't you come into my first life? Like the way you used to do. Nothing but you're like a maze Won't you coming through my dreams again And if you go and then I find my way you're too Your first light it burns my eyes

I've been sleeping for too long Coming from your dark inside You're my first night after the door for You're my first ride after the door for You're my first ride after the door for You're my first ride after the door for I feel like it burns my eyes, I've been sleeping for too long. You're my first light after the dawn

You're my first light after the dawn You're my first light after the door You're my first ride after the door You're my first life. You're my first life. You're my first night. You're my first day. You're my first day.

It doesn't always take gasoline to make fire dangerous. With know-how, you can burn fires. With carelessness, fires will burn you. What exactly is it that you do-do? And we're back. Tell me who that was again. That is a band called The Nomadic, a single called First Light, which is coming from their upcoming album, New Horizons. They've released a bunch of singles from this thing and really, really like it, everything I've been hearing from the nomadic. Sounds fantastic.

Australia making the good stuff. They make some pretty good stuff in Australia. Do you know the lead singer for, oh, the ballroom? guy that time has yeah them do you know what's his name do you know his name is he's a member of parliament or he was for a while a member of parliament and his name is bald guy magubi guy geez well anyway his daughter runs a tic-tok account and films her dad goofing around all the time and it's fantastic oh my gosh wendy doing some home home repair oh i was wondering where that's peter garret oh wow yeah let me just warn you i have someone is literally ripping out a wall

in the other room. Oh, my. Do you know who they are? I've never met them. It's very weird. I'm going to try to, you know. We've had worse. We've had way worse.

This is fine. Yeah. Trust me. And I just thought, like, you know, can't be that loud. And then, of course, they started. They literally saw an entire wall. It's like somebody trying to unplug a pipe back there. Yeah.

It's so bad. Look, I literally did an interview once where the guy, it was the director of an independent film. The guy was in his car with his hop down the entire way. on the LA Freeway for most of the interview and for the final third of the interview he pulls up to his house, parks, goes into his house, and pees while he talks to us on speakerphone.

No way. Yeah. And I could hear it the whole time. It was one of the weirdest experiences in my podcast. I love that. I think it's like just, I don't even care.

I have zero F's to give. Yeah. I'm living my life. Yep. And Zoom, I use Zoom most of the time. And Zoom has a personalized audio if anyone needs It is astounding what they have figured out for me, which is it just memorizes your voice.

So if I clear my thorough or cough or sneeze, it doesn't pick up that audio or my dog barks or you would not be hearing this thing behind me. So, I mean, I can crinkle like flip in a bag of something in front of the mic and it will not pick it up. So now I'm used to that and I'm like, oh, no, you can hear things when I'm on other things. There is a setting in Discord that's similar, but I won't buggy with it now. but maybe I'll show you how to do it later. Then you can't do it in the future. Turn on the banging filter. Yeah.

My goal is to never have this happen again because I cannot. You've had people work in your house before when you're there. It's the most disconcerting. I hate it so much. I don't like it either. I don't like big banging sounds. I don't like, you know, trying to do stuff or focus. Yeah, I don't like it at all.

Living their lives in my house. I can't go to the bathroom. I can't eat. It's very weird. Yeah. Are they wearing the weird shoe covers as they walk around the house? No, they're just walking through my house. It's not, it's not respectful.

It's fine. In the end, it'll be fine. It'll all be fine in the end. That new wall, well, it's going to be awesome. All right. It's good to have you here, Wendy. We're going to be great wall. Great wall.

I don't make Wendy pay for it. Literally true. We're going to do an email today that is from a guy we all really like around here. His name is Jeff. We call him Bronco. I've known him forever. One of my favorite Canadians in the whole world. Um, he gets, sometimes he gets a little hot under the collar about something we talk about. Um, he's going to, he's going to, you're going to hear that tone here a little bit. But it's just so everyone knows, this is not us dragging Jeff or him dragging us. Everyone's friends here. Everyone loves everybody. Everybody loves everybody. Okay. That's the, that's the truth. Uh, so anyway, let's get straight to it and I'll read it. And then we'll talk about it. Uh, Scott, Brian and Wendy. What is it with people losing all rationality with products when they,

hate the people associated with them. I've listened to an entire week now of how Wendy is having some existential crisis driving at Tesla because she hates Musk so much. I think that may be a little extreme, but okay. I said I had a long, or he says I had a long email exchange with Scott

and about Elon. He did. This is true. Trying to get the point across that it's possible for two things to be true at the same time. Elon is a brilliant engineer and he's also a giant jerk. I don't disagree. The same is true for House of Cards. It's somehow suddenly became a bad show once we found out Kevin Spacey was a creep?

No, it was still a good show. I think it got... It was like Baby Driver, you know? Yeah. You can say the same thing about baby driver. There's lots of things that are good, even though he's in them. I get you might not want to potentially put money in his pocket by watching, but it doesn't mean the show was any less good than the day before you found out it was horrible.

I mean, I think I agree with him. Part of the reason the Spacey, I'll pause here and just say this. Part of the reason the Spacey thing makes me so annoyed is because he is, one of the great acting talents of a generation. And so, you know, when someone like that turns out to be a real D-bag, it's just like, well, it's just disappointing. But I didn't avoid this stuff because of it. And it's, and, you know, even though it's possible to separate the art from the artist, it gets harder. The worst crime that they do, the worst thing that they do, it's, you watch Baby Driver and every time they're on screen, you're thinking, oh, yeah, it's the guy who, you know, was a real dick to Anthony rap.

Yeah. But you watch something TV Herman is like, that guy, he diddled in a sex movie. Oh, yeah, he got way too, he got way too much heat for that because He did get way too much. I mean, you're supposed to do in those places. Yeah, I don't know why you're in there if you're not. Anyway, he goes on to say, what is the deal?

I've never heard anyone say, well, I just can't drive a Ford because Henry Ford was such an anti-Semite. I won't get to that in a second because I hate that. argument. Maybe this is a question for Wendy. Why is it so hard to separate the art from the artist or the product from the CEO, physician heal thyself, yours in Christ, Jeff Sire. And a bunch of smiley faces. All right. We have heard from Grafton, Ontario, Canada now, and now we have to address it. I want to address one quick thing. The Ford thing just doesn't work for me because Henry Ford has been dead of, what, 100-something years? And if he was in charge of something now, and I didn't

like it. And I'm like, well, I got other options. Maybe I'll take my money elsewhere. I don't think that's a, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for people to do. Let's just say, let's make this argument. EVs couldn't, let's say, the only company that can make an EV is Tesla. No one else can make them. And they're also the greatest things ever built in the history of ever, and there's no competition, there's nothing else going on. This is just the only way to go. And Elon Musk is a total turd nugget. Well, then I could see how you'd be like, well, don't like the guy, but I got to get the car. So I guess I'll get the car. It's fine. Whatever. But that's not the world we live in. If people behave poorly, if the guy at McDonald's, you know,

burps really loud as he wraps my burger, I can decide, I think I'm going to Burger King next time. You know what I mean? So that I don't think holds up. Like, yeah, Ford was still around and he was still running the company and he was a raging anti-Semite, I would probably say, I think I'll look at Chevy or something else. Yeah. And the same thing happens here. The way he is so publicly an a hole, and also what it sounds like, it sounds like he's a

real a hole internally, if all these internal documents are to be believed. That's what's coming out, yeah, for sure. Then I would, then I have no problem going, yeah, I don't know if I'd want that car. I think I'd rather have a, I think I'd rather get a freaking leaf over that, you know, or Edison, Edison, uh, electrocuted

animals horribly. And we still use electricity. I think we we don't have an alternative well I guess if I'm not using electricity I guess is an alternative you can live off the grid but yeah no I mean I just don't think it's a good example the rest of this I kind of make sense like this stuff with Kevin Spacey and stuff I totally get all that so Wendy let's throw it over to you since this was a first time this is kind of aimed at you yeah kind of aimed at you a little bit you know yeah I'm first of all not appreciating that there's one mean Canadian if there's going to be one We found him. We found him. Also, his stuff is showing a little here. I've never said I hated Elon Musk. I might have said, oh, he sucks or something generally, but he's claiming that I'm having an existential crisis driving a Tesla because I hate Musk so much. That might have been described on the show by your brother as. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't say that. I said she didn't, or you said something to the effect of like, I don't like this guy. I don't even like these cars. They're like weird.

What did you say? They were like, um, because it was during a segment you actually said it, Wendy. Yeah. There's some, well, that's a great thing.

I don't like the cars. Yeah, she doesn't like the cars or something like that. But I don't think it's like existential crisis. I mean, some of these words are a little much. I know. He's,

he's doing the right. I just didn't know Canadians had it in him. That's all. But he's creating the, the conflict so that there's some resolution. I get it. So thank you very much, Jeff. Okay, so I, he's right, and I don't know why he doesn't think you agree with him, because I think you do. So I'm confused. What I'm supposed to help out here with, it's like he doesn't.

Let me say this. I think where the bottom line of this is, if I could sum up where we're at with it or where we could have a conversation around it, it is that kind of overarching question about whether we can separate art from the artist. Look, the thing, let's focus on the spacey thing for a second. Okay, wait, wait, let me interrupt you really quick. I hear where you're going and that's the right direction for sure. But let me just say this about Tesla's. Nobody likes to be, what is the word, where someone characterizes what you think or feel without your permission or any input. Here's my input.

Here's my input. Thank you. There's one word. Is I don't like Tesla's, I think that for many reasons. and one is what they represent. And you'd have to know my whole history to understand that, really. I don't like that they are like what midlife crisis

white dudes get to be cool. Like, it really bugs me. Which I did not like Corvats for a long time for the same reason. Like, they're that, right? Also, I just literally, they're very uncomfortable to drive, at least the one I drove. But it just feels like, you know,

there's facets about it that have nothing to do with Elon Musk. And I love an electric car. I think we should all have them. I think that's the future. And I'm so glad there's other choices too. And I do wish Tesla was just better. Like I don't think I would hate it if I thought it was better. But I also just think it's the core of it.

They have nothing to do. The 2020s. Yeah. And so, okay, so just that being said, though, I can 100% separate it from Elon Musk because I recognize how things actually work. And sometimes that's, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Sure.

And that's maybe Scott, you could talk about that a little bit as you go and I'll talk about that. Like what happens when an illusion is pop, right? A person becomes a whole person. And sometimes, of course, if it's super public, like the way Elon Musk portrays himself, it's very public.

We all know. Everyone talks about it, blah, blah, blah. You never know. I mean, I'd like to hang out with him alone. I would like to have a session with them. In a heartbeat, I would do that. Because I would love to know what is actually happening there. But I don't get to know that. And I think that's true. If anyone you think of that's famous or you have an opinion about or that you decide if you like or don't like is, do we really know them? And what is for show? What is not? What is saying the

quiet part out loud? It's, this is difficult to do. Yeah. I think there are plenty. I think there There are plenty of people who think that their distaste of Elon Musk will determine what they're going to do. Right. So in other words, of course, there are going to be people are going to make their choice based on. I hate that guy. Therefore, I will not do anything he has business in.

People do this with everybody. It's like, well, if Apple makes it, I'm not touching it. If it's Android, forget it. You know, whatever. People get these weird brand allegiances and stuff, which I'm not a giant fan of that either. I think brand worship is weird and funky. I don't understand it. That being said, I do have preferences of some things over others, usually based on natural experience.

If I have something that has served me well, then I might have some loyalty to them until they maybe mess up a product or something like that. But this cult of personality part of it is not really part of my decision making. But I will say when the Spacey stuff happened, I did have this moment of like, it was less about I'm going to avoid anything Kevin Spacey's in. It was more, I'm going to need a minute out of this bubble that we're all having in a moment for right now. I just like, it's too much. And I can't just like, it'll be distracting. If I'm going to watch Baby Driver in 2017 and enjoy it, I'm going to be distracted because I'm thinking about the spacey crap the whole time because it's all anyone's talking about. And even though he deserves all the consternation that he gets, there are thousands of people that go into the production of a great movie or a quality television show or music production or anything else you want to name.

he's not the only guy, he's up front and center, although in that movie, it's a tiny roll, but, uh, or relatively small. But the point is, that's not, I didn't avoid it because, ooh, he's in it. It's like, it's like the jello salad having just one cat turd in it. It's only one cat turd, but are you still going to eat it? You know, it wasn't like that for me. To me, it was just like, I don't want to deal with it right now because of this hype. Same thing happens with me with new video games. Sometimes they come out with controversy around them. And I go, eh, I just don't want to. mess with that right now, so I'll see you in a year and I'll try it. That kind of attitude.

I hate, but it's the flip side, too. Like, I hate taking money out, or I hate, I hate putting money into J.K. Rowling's pocket, for example, by doing anything Harry Potter related, but I hate taking money out of Daniel Radcliffe's pocket or, you know, the other actors

and cast members and behind the scenes people and that sort of thing who are involved with that too. Like, I don't want to see Ansel Elgort and and Jamie Fox and John Hamm, poor John Hamm gets no work these days, but see them lose out on Baby Driver just because I don't want to do something that inadvertently puts money in Kevin Spacey's pocket, but you know, you got to think of

everybody else that's involved with these things, and so you've got to... Yeah, I guess I just don't even, it's not, I don't even think of it that way, because they're going to make their money no matter what. Like, I'm not going to make any big impact there. It's all about what do I, what do I value? Do I value this film on its merits as a film? Yes. So I'm going to watch it.

And I'm glad I finally watched Baby Driver because that movie was freaking great. Cannot say enough about that movie. It was so good. And Kevin Spacey really truly barely in it, if that's your problem. But in the case of like, if somebody does something bad, let's just say, you know, let's say tomorrow I'm a, I buy a lot of Apple stuff. I'm in their ecosystem. I, you know, iPad is my drawing tool of choice. I do a lot of art, do a lot of audio production.

I love their tools. Like, I'm into it. I'm happily in there. They've always served me well. If tomorrow, it turns out today, breaking news, Tim Cook was found strangling an old lady on the roof or something. I would be very upset. I'd be very upset about this.

And I would be mad about this. And I would want something to be done about this. like you fire him immediately bored and you get somebody else in his CEO like get Ken Federeigie or not Ken whatever his name is Craig Federeigie in there yeah put his fake hair helmet on let's get this going and make him the guy because I I have long term interest in wanting to still use these amazing products that take thousands of people to build and make and do and stuff over time Tim Cook is not the only reason so that's why I take issue with this whole issue of like Elon Musk being the

Tim Apple? Yeah, well, if you ask one guy in particular, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So here, I think your point is accurate. I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who would argue with that. But I think the psychology of this that makes it interesting is what is it that happens to us, right? So, for example, anyone who yells about cancel culture that it's the worst and the woke mobs coming for you and brim-br-br-br-you do the same thing on their beloved. thing. And this same thing happens. And this is because this is not some one side or the other

having this experience. It's everybody has something. So what is this thing? And let me ask you guys this. What is it about, well, okay, you can talk about influencers or personal branding or, you know, you're really tying a person to the thing, right? I mean, Elon Musk has made himself the face of it of Tesla. That's the reality. There are plenty of quiet engineers who are brilliant. We will never know their names because that's not what they do. And so obviously a film star, a musician or something, they are their brand. So that makes a lot of sense. But tell me this, where, what's a thing you have associated a beloved item, a service you've purchased, you associate with a human being? I would say most of the people listening to this, Scott,

probably associate with you something similar. Right? I get this from you or Brian. I get this from you. You are the people. So if you two both started killing puppies on the side, you're going to ruin some people's lives, right? And some puppies' lives, too. And some puppies' lives. Okay.

So tell me for yourselves, what are some things you do feel this connection with? And they haven't been ruined yet. Kind of the idea of don't meet your heroes, right? You originally, when a brand gets associated with a single human, like Steve Jobs is a good example of that, whereas I think Tim is way different than that. He blends into the background more. he's in charge but he's not he's not that overwhelming personality that jobs was but jobs was definitely that um and he was certainly flawed and had his issues and people would freak out

about those but outside of that i think a good example for me for a fandom i or for something i was you know really passionate about would have been um john lasseter at pixar um boy it bummed me out when it came out that he was being very inappropriate with female people at Pixar and him admitting it. It wasn't even one of those things where he denied it. He was like, yeah, and he stepped back and, you know, he receded into the nowhere land, which I don't know where he is now. But that really bummed me out because for the longest time, I was like,

man, Lasseter, he is the dude. And as it turns out, he is still this creative genius when it came to what he did best. He's still all the things I thought he was. He also turns out he's got these, he's got these big old, you know, every death star has got a place you can. shoot two things in and explode it and he definitely had a big a big one it was just a matter of time but i'm not i didn't boycott pixart i still don't and i you know i still think fondly about the stuff that he was passionate about the original toy story is a is amazing his time leaving

disney and why they didn't believe in the future and all this it was all fascinating to me now i know he's deeply flawed in that regard and it's it still sucks but it didn't make me go i said I'm done. Yeah. Right. Okay. I mean, you're repeating yourself. I love you, but you're repeating yourself.

I love you too, but yes, I probably am repeating myself. I just realized I've never told you I loved you on the show. I love you. I love you, Wendy. You're the best. You're one of my favorite people in the world. Okay. And I do love you.

You're repeating yourself. I want something that hasn't been ruined. I want something that right now and why I'm getting to this is. Oh, okay. Wait, so something. I didn't explain myself. I'm not, I don't, I just think you'd understand. what I meant, and I didn't clarify.

Because what I'm getting at here is that it's an illusion, right? We are all living in a bit of an illusion, and we project a lot, right? So take our first example of this is our parents. We project onto them hero status because we need them to keep us alive. And they give us the mirror in which we look in to see if we're lovable, worthy, and valuable, right? We need them. And our black and white thinking as young underdeveloped brains put our parents in this category. Now, ask anyone whose parents are older and you are an adult, do you see your parents the same way?

Now, you might still think they're great, but you now have access to see their flaws. So here is our first example of as a human being doing this where we put someone on a pedestal because they are the star of our freaking show, right? and then we find fault with them because that's natural as you discover a full human being. And then that sometimes breaks people, right? 100%. That can break relationships. It doesn't survive. But often what it does is we adjust, we manage the good and the bad. We sort of figure out how to incorporate that new information.

We maybe just don't go bowling with dad ever again because we now realize he can't handle it or whatever. Like, we find ways to still be in relationship and loving relationships with people who are flawed. And now extend that to someone who you don't actually have access to. So you're only going to know the good thing, right? Like, Lasseter, you only got to see that part of things. And it was inspiring and amazing. And it was like a dad. I mean, is that being too dramatic?

No, I think that's fair. I actually do this with our dad. Like, I'm not saying he had flaws like that, but he clearly was a flawed person because everyone is. Everyone's got their weaknesses, whatever. But because he passed away so early in his life, it is easy for me to, it's now a led, he's legendary now, right? Yeah. So we've now assigned this like new status to him of, well, we didn't get to see him grow to 80 and get cranky or decide that he thought the kids these days were this or that. You know, we didn't, we didn't get that because he was taken so.

early so we can we can just put a stamp on it and go legendary bam you know and it's not really that it's not true he would tell me he would say scott knock it off i was flawed i had issues i wasn't perfect i wasn't this of that you know i had people get all up in arms matt and i were talking about this the other day but you know when he used to use the the the c word not the one you're all thinking of but the uh with the one uh people would use as a uh for as racial When he would use that, we all felt like it was a term of endearment, including the Korean siblings. They were all fine with it because that's just what they knew and they knew he was a loving

dude. But would you want, you know, is that cool that he did? Probably not, you know, by any stretch. So it's one of those things where I feel like there are certain people where either they're taken early so they get legend status and that kind of changes your, it's a lot rosier, right? or we only ever see the side of them you know we only see mr rogers and all the positive lights it sounds like he was just like that in real life too but even he would say to you well i'm quick to anger or i'm you know i disagree with my wife on stuff that was fundamental or whatever right

like everybody's got this stuff i'm the problem i'm having these days is i'm kind of running out of that there's nobody really out there i go oh yeah untouchable that guy he's the freaking greatest i don't know if blizzards fall from grace as a company was part of the problem but it really wrecked me and made me go oh well how many other organizations or people or famous or otherwise do I hold in some regard and they're just they're really just peeing all over the place and I just don't see it we just don't see well and let's be clear because of technology because of information access because portrayal can be um blasted to every rooftop right we we can understand something about a person because it gets leaked and somebody writes about it

and then it's everyone or someone has an individual experience with someone. Someone was a jerk at a restaurant. Think of that. Like you have a bad day, but everyone's going to watch what you do and then some kid at the table next to you can film it and within minutes the whole world knows you had a bad day. Like it's a ridiculous microscope for anyone to live under and all of us are just sitting and consuming that. And what it's done, I would say maybe collectively is just reduced any faith in any institution in any collective group of people trying to do anything.

But let's not forget this one really valuable point because I got to throw my feminism in here is that so often women are harmed and have been harmed historically with no one saying a freaking word. Yeah. And so I think me too and some of that, like that bringing some of that to light,

it gets people more vigilant, right, as is a good thing. But it also means anything that happened prior to that, I bet you, Mr. Rogers, didn't have 100%, you know, good intentions all the time with every single human because of the time he lived in. I know he was advanced in some ways, right?

You know, we want Martin Luther King to have not had a single flaw or whoever, right? We're all just looking like the email or said, yours in Christ, yours in the one person everyone believes might have been perfect. There is something very appealing about that. Uncanceable. Uncanceable. Exactly. That's really what he should write. And so I think there's this desire for this. It's very young, very black and white. We all have it no matter what, whatever direction. And then the more mature nuanced view of things develops as you develop. So Scott, I think you're there with a lot of these things. And

And I think that's what our emailer is arguing for. Like, hey, he can also be brilliant and he can also be a jerk. Right. But not everyone has to pay for a jerk's product. That's fair. And to be mad at people. And this is, I want to flip it back to the emailer and just anyone who gets real huffy about this stuff is like, what is this about for you actually?

So, for example, if I was going to take all of your private text and everything you've filmed and everything you've thought and said, and I'm going to put it on the internet and let everybody judge you how you're going to do like how you feel and and not to say you know this guy's hiding anything real but um maybe it is and maybe we all are because we're all flawed maybe we don't even even just weaknesses that aren't cancelable or terrible or whatever do you really need the whole world to know all those things about you so one of the most important values in any relationship and this i think will resonate with everyone is to be really known and really seen to be truly yourself and loved and accepted anyway.

So we are, we are needling into the most core human need to feel safe. And that is to be yourself and be safe doing so. Talk about, you know, masking in all of its many forms. I can't be myself around this person. So I have to act all businessy or I can't, you know, no one gets to know that I have this silly side because it's so important that I'm the helper or whatever. from that all the way to Elon Musk is going to create this incredible thing in this car and it's lovely and all those good things and then still be a jerk. I just don't know why everyone has

to publish it. But that's just it. That's from all of us up to there, we are in the same boat as a human need to be safe in who we are. And that's why I always want to sit down with everyone. Like, you give me Donald Trump. Give me four sessions with him. Oh my God. I know. I don't think that'll be nearly enough. I know it wouldn't, but I wouldn't give me a start. If you ever want to record a podcast, I'll happily play the part. And we'll do a, Wendy, I don't know, this may be the greatest podcast ever. Nothing ever like it has ever happened. And I am going to really quickly start talking about your dad and your relationship and why, what wounds we've got going on. If he gave me a billion dollars, I made all this money myself. Oh, you're good. Yeah, it would be torture. It would be torture. Let's not do that. Anyway, but that idea, that idea, though, is we all want to be ourselves and be seen. And when no one, and there are people listening to this, don't know what I'm talking about. They're like, I've never been able to be truly myself with anyone, right?

Because they're going to think I'm too weird. They're going to reject me. Guess what we are doing on a collective level, the exact thing. I don't think cancellation in the stupid term that it is now is always existed in everyone's experience. when your uncle turns out to be a psycho, you don't want to hang out with them and spend time at Thanksgiving dinner, right? That's the power of gossip.

There's a great podcast about what gossip really is and how it was demonized by the early church because it was how women shared information, honestly, to keep themselves safe. Like, how do you talk about the priest who is going to molest your son? Well, women are talking about it while they're at the whatever store together. And that it was literally demonized and preached against. So the history of it's really fascinating if you think about that.

But what is gossip? And what is it we are engaging in here is just gossip on a big level, which is, is this a good person or not? Am I safe being myself with this person is? But now we have such huge amounts of differing things. Like when someone's like, you do this, wait, don't you know that means you're a terrible person? And you're like, wait, what? so have we gone overboard yeah probably but that's just because of the the way information could be yeah we overcorrect it with it was such a rapid like explosion of information and

access to it it's easy to overcorrect I think that you know humanity will perhaps have to forgive itself for some of that because it's just so hard not to but to me there's a variable here in this equation that we're not really talking about and that is in the Elon Musk case if I'm in a like literally there's a there's a sizable financial transaction at stake as well so it isn't just do I want to be around this guy or do I agree with him or I don't I

or do I want to be okay with his horribleness just because he's a good engineer that's nothing that's that's fine on a personal level you can make those decisions but this is different they're also asking me for 45 to $100,000 they're asking me to buy into an ecosystem they're asking me to make a big decision on a on a on the transportation part of my life and if i'm in a showroom and one guy's being a dick and the one next to it's not i i'm probably

going to just feel like well that's that's a little too much for me i'm going to go over here to spend my money it's not some altruistic freaking uh you know i'm based basing this purely on pure motives or whatever sometimes there's money involved and that's it that's the whole thing so it's not only that you're a jerk and that you might be a brilliant engineer, I'm still not sure about that. But whatever. Yeah. Let's say, let's make the assumption that he is. How much he really was involved with. Yeah, we really don't know. But even if, let's say it's the most brilliant engineer in the history of the planet, okay, but also a jerk and then you want me to spend 60 grand. That's the difference. Otherwise, I can go one way or the other and who cares.

But if you're saying, well, what's, does it make the cars bad? No. Does it make my buying experience bad? Yes. I'm going to go somewhere else. To me, it's that simple. So as much as, you know, we want to act like money, money doesn't, in the end, it doesn't matter. It's the relationship. Okay. But in this context, we're talking about Tesla and Musk, it is the money. It's literally the whole thing. Actually, most of this is going to be money based in that my put my money behind it or my vote or my whatever it may be. It is real world cost. Whatever your, whatever your currency is, yeah, right? Voting is a currency, really at the end of. Right, right. And so the money, and it matters because what I'm doing is free advertising. There is a Tesla in my neighborhood. This might be where some of my families come, but it is camouflaged. Someone spent money to camouflage. To Camouflage. Are you talking about camouflage? Like, you don't mean the ones where they make them all glad, like,

no, like army camouflage. Okay, camel print on there. Okay. Yeah. And our family joke is like, whoa, do you see that? And I was like, what? What is it? I do that. It's just like four wheels rolling down the road. It's so annoying and ugly. Yeah, but, but that is, that person is, and this is where, this is where my beef with Tesla actually lies is the representatives of Tesla that I have met in my life, except my uncle or my brother-in-law, Ken, who I adore, are not great representations of people that, you know, it's a handful.

It's not a ton, but I'm like, yeah, not my crew, like, not my vibe. I don't love that. And that's fair, right? That's a buying decision. We also own a leaf. Do I think the leaf people are my crowd? No. I don't.

I don't think there is a crowd. I think we're all in the corner embarrassed. But part of that is, again, this like human tendency to assign value and prestige and worth. And, you know, that's why you can buy a T-shirt for $150 somewhere. It's like, who are you fooling? But it works for you. it builds whatever blah blah so think of it not only currency money voting is identity right so identity is big that is a massive how to who am i based on my association with items and people and so

that gets threatened and i i think i don't know if this is the even jeff's deal at all but i i think often the people that scream the most about being frustrated by stuff like this tend to have um there's reasons And we could dig into those reasons and everyone might be a little bit different, but it could just be scary. Let's say you're a white dude who's maybe not always been the nicest. And suddenly, like, you're not getting a job because you're not a black queer woman. And you're like, well, you know, something is threatened for you. And all the unfairness for them for a whole history of human kind doesn't matter. But right now it feels unfair for you.

So you might get pretty reactive or you might have stronger feelings about it. a thing if you feel like there's a threat here. So I hear this often, and I think cancellation when it threatens somebody or it feels really like, well, his art is amazing. It doesn't matter that he raped three people. It's like, okay, this is about you. And again, I need to know I'm safe in society and I don't feel safe when something like this is happening.

I think that's true of institutions. And it can go every direction. This is apolitical, though it's very, very, very rapid. in camel of political all the time. Yeah, like a lot of things these days. Yeah. There's a, there's some, the other day I was just thinking about this.

There's so much stuff like, it almost sounds trite, but, because it kind of is, but there's, most of these divisions, they're so, they're so self-imposed. They're so like,

I don't even know how to explain it. It's like we mostly agree on shit, you know? Most things we do, but because we're constantly bombarding, bombarded with information that plays to specific biases that each of us have, we get this feeling that we're just in this divide. And it's so artificial sometimes.

And there's parts of it that's just like, yeah, well, look, if you think, you know, all women suck and all this, every, every claim of rape is made up, well, I don't know what to do to help you. You can have extremes, but most of the time people are not that. They're not that extreme about it. They just are buying into whatever 24-hour bullshit. they're being fed, wherever they're being fed it. And then they create these chasms of differences.

Now, in the case of like, you know, these sorts of issues, you could make, I suppose you could make the argument, well, all you're reading is bad stuff about Musk or whoever it is. Maybe read about the good things. Are there good things? I don't know. But if there are, if these out there doing some amazing stuff where I don't hear it, work or something that we don't know about sure sure let me find that that's fine instead what

i hear about is you know the latest is there's women at space x who claim he had these big toward affairs with him and and he wasn't real nice about some of them and all this other stuff like are we going to mars or are we talking about musk again like freaking you know what would make him brilliant if he came in spent a bunch of money on a company that had a bunch of potential hired the best engineers the smartest people altruistic people diverse people and then let that company grow and do stuff and then shut the F up and go away. That'd be amazing.

You know what I mean? Now, I'm not saying everybody should, everybody should have the right to say what they want to say. But don't be surprised that when you say terrible things, people react. That's all. Don't be surprised. Don't act like it's a big shock.

When he says something that's like a horribly racist or shitty or whatever it is that he says, you can go, go find him on your own. I'm not interested in looking him up right now. But whatever those are, then don't be surprised. that everybody gets mad. Like, in some ways, I think he's doing it on purpose

because this is how you get attention. This is what you do. It's like PR. Yeah, right. I don't even though it was PR. I think just people, I think people a certain level of money don't. And ego.

Yeah, an ego. They have a certain level of money, a certain level of ego, and they need constant, like, validation, even though you would think being a $200 billion person would be enough for all you would ever need. But it turns out money isn't, literally money is not everything.

No, no. Yeah. So, the couples counseling community was like, oh, the five billionaires, the most famous five billionaires, we know all their marriages fell apart at the same time. They're like, oh, yeah, so no amount of money, huh? Because that's not what it's about. I think that's, yeah, I think that can be really tricky because it's from the billionaire down to anybody, right? It's the same process. It's just louder because you can buy more.

Like, does not all of us want some validation? Yeah, we do. Of course we do. Yeah. Validation is nice for whatever it is you're doing. It's true. Like, that's the thing you can't take away from people. All the money in the stature and the whatever in the world won't change your basic evolutionary human needs, right?

No. No. And then when you hear about like very, very, very wealthy people, you've hardly ever heard their name you don't they made money on like garden equipment i don't know stuff that you're just like what and then they spend their life doing good with it and anonymously doing a bunch of stuff you're not going to know right there's so the richness isn't the thing it's something else and so and it's tempting when you're not rich to see that as all bad right um i think Tesla is an example of a way to find some status or symbol and then you just act like a weenie except for ken everyone else

will talk about everyone else but ken yeah we don't think i know he i know ken listens hi ken yeah hi ken but also i don't i don't think he's inherently even close to being a weenie no the dude does more for other people that none of us will ever truly know i only secretly know he's a very kind-hearted generous human being yeah and that's probably plenty of Tesla drivers see it's just the ones that I've interacted with in some other ways that I just know more about that's the problem maybe with my job

that's a hazard of my job it's like oh you anyway I won't even get it to it but so yeah I appreciate this email though because I think you know sometimes at least my hot take is to take the psychology of it and really it puts us all in the same boat

we're just all doing different things with it and we're all triggered for different reasons but we all have that core mom and doubt are perfect and then they disappoint me thing we all have that i need to be my true self to to really be happy and i can't or i can only here or there and we all have the those rich people suck but i bet i'd be cool if i had money so we're all the same yeah that's true in the end we are plus again we know jeff pretty well personally and jeff is one of the nicest human beings i know i know out he's from canada yeah he's you know you know i'm

the door to perpetuate the stereotype the canadians are all nice yeah let's keep it up uh well wendy this has been uh interesting i'm really glad we did this one just because i think it's yeah this is a good great topic yeah you're hearing about this a lot we'll probably get a ton of feedback on it feel free uh the morning stream at gmail dot com send in your thoughts your feelings your comments your questions and uh perhaps they will come up in a furcher future future show for church. Wendy, I wish you nothing but the best with that awesome sawing and hammering that's going on. Good luck getting anything done today. Yeah. Well, are they there just for today? Are they going, is this a long-term project? They've been here since Monday. They're replacing windows, but this window is

so janky. They have to rip out the wall. Oh, my. It's bad. Yeah. So you should listen. I haven't told you about this. I did an interview with Matt for my diary thing. You should go listen to that because he said some stuff I did not know about his time as an orphan and in Korea before getting here and why he ran away once, like all these things I didn't, I just have never asked him. So anyway, I'll send you, I'll send you a link. I'd love it. Yeah, it's only like, it's like 45 minutes or something, but I think you'd like it.

Nice. Okay. Have a fantastic week and we'll see you next time. Bye now. Bye. That's interesting. I'm very curious about Jeff's response to all this. Yeah, I am too.

love to hear what he says let us know geoffrey we missed you in Vegas although it was great to see the year before but his son had a baby and that's the thing you do stay home for that's something you stay home for sure and grats on that you and jen deserve the best uh later today as we mentioned coverville 12 noon that's right john wetton if you don't know who that is don't worry about it you're going to hear great music so you know don't even think about i don't know who that is yeah you hear music on Coverable that's designed to make you enjoy and expand your horizons and hear new stuff. Yeah, you don't go in there and play crap. That never happens.

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to do a 10 a.m. hour long, what do you call it? Couch party. So if you'd like to come enjoy that, please do. I think it's our, is it our last or second to last? Second to last Firefly, or maybe third to less since we had to push things, so I can't remember.

I think it's episode 12 of Firefly. Yeah, and there's 13. So 12, 13, 14? 14. Or four, is it just 13? I can't remember. I can't either. It'll be more Firefly.

Not enough Firefly, but it will be Firefly for years. It's definitely been a couple of months now. Oh, it's been a quarter and a half, I think. Was it before we, before Vegas? I think we, yeah. Oh. oh gosh right of course it's been before Vegas we've only had a month since Vegas yeah so it must be like how long can we've been doing this I feel like we've been doing it forever you're right I feel like we've been doing it

since March or or February I will somebody have to look up and see when we watched Firefly episode one or the two-parter yeah it's a lot anyway uh so there you go it's going to do it for uh for us Brian let's play a song before we go what do you got sure uh Andrew Rodin this is going to be fun. Dear Skippy and Bippy, I'm turning 20 plus 21 on June 13th. I was wondering if you could play any American rock song sung in German. Love the show though. Can I get a Brian, or can I get a Brian Abbottfish sandwich. L.O.L. Yes, but first he has to get this because he tried to skirt around it, but I still have to give it to him. Happy birthday. You and your 20 plus 21 bull crap. Didn't think that gets you out of that. We could do, we could do math. Um, fish sandwich from

Brian? Sure. Hey, is it too early to get a fish sandwich? There it is. There it is right there. Good stuff. So, now that I'm rereading his message, an American rock song, I kind of screwed up. I found a song that's done in German. And I originally had a cover of You Sexy Thing by Hot Chocolate done in German by

they're kind of like the German spice girls. I can't remember the name of the band. But this one came up in my list. I'm like, oh, this would be great. it fits perfectly, and I forgot about the whole American rock song thing, but let's

get to it here. This is a band called, I almost don't want to say what it is, because it's so perfectly nestled in a thing that a lot of us in this group like. And I almost don't, I don't think I'm going to say what it is. Because it's not

really a pop song as much as it's a song from pop culture that we all love. The song is, oh, let me see, I got to put glasses on to read this name, because I'm going to butcher it, I'm going to butcher it, regardless. It's Das Halsfalalied. And it's by a group called Dodl Hai. Yeah, sounds legit. Do, D-O-D-E-L-H-A-I-E, from an album called Symphony des Wansons.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Totally nailed all that stuff. But it's, yeah, Das Holes Folls. Fala Lid, Lied, Lied, L, I think it's L, E, I, oh no, you do the, you do the, the, um, does it have an umlout? First vowel. Umlouts on it? No umlots?

There's an umlaut, but it's on the A. Oh. So it's actually Dos Holes Fala Lide because the I comes before the E. Gotcha. So, just like that. All right. Somebody's Googling it and going to figure out exactly what song this is and they're going to be really excited about it. Anyway, enjoy this.

This is going out to Andrew. and happy 20 plus 21st birthday. Yep, you can drink now twice. Or no, once. And next year you'll be able to drink twice. So good luck to you. Right, exactly. That's it, everybody.

Thank you for listening. We'll be back next Monday with a regular show. And don't forget, we are taking Juneteenth off, which is next Wednesday for the national holiday. And also check out FilmSack this weekend. I forgot to mention that. We got a big one coming. So nice roundtable discussion.

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