The Morning Stream - TMS 2663: Now Hornet Free!

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

Put up a SARSguard. Small town Dicks. Ask your doctor if Finestra is right for you. Obi-Wan Podsafe. Scott's Twin Desire. People Need the Butt. I don't want to break anybody's parade. Left Boob Factory. Almost A Kevin. Opening a can of hornets. Always two Sarsgards there are: master and apprentice. A.I. Babies. Doctor Do Too Much. Optimus Prime's Back End. 10 Extra Ketchups with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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AI babies. Doctor do too much. Optimus Prime's back end. And extra catch-ups with Wendy and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. I had a really close call today. And it all started when I was so anxious to do something that I didn't stop to think of the danger and wouldn't listen to anyone who tried to warn me. Well, we parents may not always be right.

right, but we try. You hormonal vulgarian, that woman deserves your respect. The morning stream. What could a young cop like you want with an old fossil like me? the morning stream for June 20th, 2044. I'm Scott Johnson. I say 20-funny-four. Didn't mean to. At least you got the four right. I got the four. I don't know why I said funny 24, but anyway. 24. 24. Well, it's a comedy showcase and we're here to make you laugh. All right, everybody. That's the category we're in. If you go look us up on iTunes or wherever. Comedy. Right there, that's where we get our trophies for us for comedy. That's right. We are the winningest podcast until

until Todd said, get out of here. You know, we were good. That's right. Exactly. This show is so legacy. Do they still? Hey, introduce me, Scott. You got distracted by the day.

Oh, sorry. Yeah, it's Brian Abbott, everybody. He's right there. Hey, oh, there you. Hi. I don't even think I said my name. I'm forgetting everybody today. So, so is Todd still doing the podcast awards?

Is that a thing? Can we get those? I think so. Boy, they fell off my radar with that. They really did. Yeah. Again, you know, every time we, oh, Yeah, nomination voting opens July 1st, so there you go.

Like, in a week you can nominate, but not our show. Wow. But it is funny that I still have a category named after me, and yet I don't know if this is still going on. Yep, there you are with, let's see. Yeah, the Coverville. The Coverville Podsafe music category. Podsafe. Podsafe.

Oh, there's an old term I've not heard in a long time. Comedy category. currently your winners last year included Kevin Hart's gold mines You know Small you showed up to it Except that

Oh yeah small little indie effort there Not a not a big deal Right A bunch of other stuff I don't know But they won't let us in anymore We're done, we're out No we're legacy And it's a bummer we didn't get

The morning stream comedy category Right like in all these other ones That have a sponsored category It's too bad we couldn't get the TMS comedy category But whatever here are here's some some true crime for you 48 hours uh betrayal season two fresh hell podcast hide and seek murder she told and small town dicks no yeah i like that they put the small in the right place that's right that's right uh well good luck to them town dicks yeah so i guess since we're no longer allowed in there i just i probably i guess i don't care i don't care about it yeah yeah yeah i don't care i don't care i don't care i don't care Um, guys, we have a voicemail on the hornets thing. We're going to put the hornets thing to rest, okay?

About who's going to get rid of what nests and how best to do it. Should you squirt it or rake it or blah, blah, blah. And they'll be friends with bees instead of destroying him. That's right. Let's see if our hornets should be our friends with this voicemail. Hey, Scott, Brian. This is Chris from Philadelphia. Colin regarding episode 26, five, eight.

Um, regarding your Hornets, WOS, Yellow Jackets, you guys are killing me, man. All right, wasps very rarely sing. Get up there with a broom and you just knock the nest down, it's fine. If you want to go all out, instead of using a spray, which only kills what it touches, once the spray dries, there's nothing left behind. So there's no residual effect from the chemical. If you really want to do the right way, you go to home. Home Depot, you go to your Walmart, you get this stuff called Seven Dust.

You dust that, boom, you're done. It's a band. They're not going to sting you. Bye. Yeah, Seven Dust. They're opening for Shaboozy this later this year. They're opening for Disturbed or something. There's definitely a metal band called Seven Dust.

I'm pretty sure of it. Something about it sounds familiar, but yeah. Hornets totally sting. I don't know what this guy's talking about. Yeah, they sting. I've been stung, the only times I've ever been stung in my life are hornets. Yeah. So that's like saying

water doesn't get you wet. Well, every time I step in water, I'm wet. I don't understand. Weird. Right, exactly. I think what he's meaning, what he's saying is they're not automatically aggressive unless you go in there and do something rude. Unless you've, yeah. The broom will definitely show us a sign of aggression. Yeah. That's a rude thing

to do to the home of your, those hornets. They are going to react. I promise you, Chris. For sure. Boy, I bet you didn't think when you brought this whole thing up that you'd be opening up a real oh wait never mind a can of a can of weren't wait no i was going to say a hornet's nasty oh i see i see i get it i was thinking can of whoopass for some reason that's oh yeah open up a can of whoop ass now you are correct seven dust is an american rock band from atlanta georgia formed in 1994 by bassist

vince hornsby no relation to uh bruce hornsby of the saxophonist uh never heard these guys Well, see a nest, Bruce Hornets. Oh, that's right. Doodoo, do doodoo. Exactly. That's just the way it is, Scott. Some things never change. They never change.

Well, anyway, I guess all I'm saying about this Hornets deal, the rake worked. They're done. They abandoned their nest. We threw the nest away. I ordered, like Brian suggested, those fake things. Oh, yeah, those little hanging paper lantern things. Yeah. Ordered a couple of those.

Well, let's know how those go. Because somebody recommended it to us. It wasn't me recommending him. I thought it was you. No, uh-uh. Must have been while we're here. My recommendation is dusk spray. Spray like the Dickens.

And guess what? If it only kills what it touches, well, let that spray touch everything. Yeah, let it touch everything. Sop that nest with that liquid. We got a thing on the patio plan for this weekend. A whole bunch of people are going to be here for. And we just wanted to be Hornet Free. Yeah.

And we are currently Hornet Free. I don't think we're going to have any problem. Hopefully those nest things get here before. That actually happens so we can sway any. any wannabe hornet nest makers, F the hornets. All right. Bottom line, F hornets. All right, moving on.

Make sure to spray and new to your wasps. Indeed. We got a window spaces email from Jeff Seyer. He has an interesting to say about that spacing between the windows. Says, hey, Scott and Brian, this is regarding the talk about interfenestration. I believe is how we determined it was meant to be said. Interfenestration. Interfenestration.

I believe the root for this is fentry, fenetree rather, which is a French, fenishre, which is French for window. The word defends straight has always fascinated me. It means to be murdered by being pushed out a window. So if you're going to get pushed out of window, you'd be murdered that way. That's defenstrate or whatever. I just think it's amazing that at one point so many people were being offed by being shoved out windows that they needed a word for it. sign job exactly yeah that's a that's a that's a a quaint time right oh another person was defenestrated today yeah you don't see that as much anymore not a lot of people

we don't have gun problem now because boy we'd have to talk about shootings but one person was killed today pushed out of a window i'm sorry defenestrated i guess uh what's his name Putin still does this he pushes people out of windows right that's still a thing probably yeah he he'll either get him with poison or he'll fennestrian or he'll fennist Finestra. Yeah, right. By the way, people are getting, we're getting pronunciations in the chat room, Finestra. Finestra. Which sounds like a laundry detergent. Yeah, or ever since I started using finestra, my clothes have never smelled better.

Yeah, it sounds like medication or something. Yeah. Is that your doctor of finestra is right for you. So finestra, so it is, so the full thing is interfinestration. Interfenestration. Yeah, I don't, the, the root. word the french word you pronounce with the middle the middle syllable uh accented but interfenestration i think for that you would and defenestration you would uh accent the the the fen syllable all i know is every time anyone see space between windows they'll remember us they'll think about they will yeah

exactly or do we do we kill we haven't killed anybody with this one right by talking about it too much i don't think so hopefully not hopefully no one's getting pushed out of nothing today that'd be bad just thinking it's just the thing you don't hear a lot about like you when you you hear about the Great Depression, it was always these stories about people jumping out of windows, because they'd lose everything and jump out of window. That was like a stereotype that I always heard growing up about the Depression. People jumped out of windows when Wall Street crashed. These days, you have like a banking run or freaking 2008 housing crisis or whatever. I don't hear about people jumping out of old windows. What happened? Do you guys get all chicken?

The financials? I'm sure they found a better way to do it, because that is a, that is a, just the thought of doing that. It's like, okay, for that entire time that I'm out the window and going down towards the ground, I am alert, I am awake, and I'm freaking out. It's a, it feels like a horrible way to go. In the 1920s, you know, Black Friday, great.

Or Black Monday? Black Fur, isn't it named based on, what was it that called? Was it Black Monday? Why does Black Friday? I know Black Friday is the shopping thing, but the crash. The crash was Black Monday, right?

Black Monday is the one in 87, it says here. So we had that $1.7 trillion loss that year, and that was one of those. And Jammedaco, exactly. I'm thinking of Steely Dan 100%. Would Black Friday comes, Black Tuesday? Was that the 1920s stock market crash when everybody started jumping out of windows? There it is. Wall Street crash 1929.

Yeah. Major American stock. Crash. Some called it Black Tuesday. Thank you. Tuesday. Yeah. All right. I didn't know it was a Tuesday. That's crazy. Yeah. I've learned something here. Well, all right then. Let's, uh, the next time we're in a breadline, remember those guys in the 20s and don't jump out in any buildings. Especially I don't land on them, please. That's right. If you do, do like they do in the movies and either land on an awning or square in the middle of the roof of a car. Why not? That's, that's the only place you really land in the movies when you jump. out a window. Yeah, awnings will slow your fall is what I've learned for movies. Yeah, exactly. You have to tear through like, what, four of them to survive or whatever it is? Four of them to slow down, and then you land in the, through the roof of your car being driven by your valet. And he says, no time for love, Dr. Jones, and drives you to the airport. That's right. You got a little late-year-old kid driving. It's perfect. That's right. That's what you want.

That's what you want. Got another theory on your dream lady. Sure. I don't know why this one, this one strikes me as no way. But whatever, this is an anonymous texter who says, for Ibitt's mystery lady, have we considered Catherine Hahn, the actress Catherine Hahn? It was not Agatha all along that I was trying to think of. But yeah, I know Catherine Hahn, well, personally I don't. But she's one of those actresses that I recognize instantly. However, she ticks so many of the boxes.

She's around the right age. She's Brunette got that kind of nasal thing and has. In this role that I'm imagining, this kind of oblivious sarcasm that is playing off of the main character in the TV show that I'm thinking of. So, yeah, it would have been, believe me, September, it would have been, it would have been hilarious if that were the case, right? And it is not somebody, again, it is not a name you recognize. Catherine Hahn's name you recognize. You hear the name you think, oh, Agatha, or you think, well, that sitcom that she did, not sitcom. streaming series

that she did I can't remember what it was a couple years ago but no it is basically if you're proposing to me a name that that the average person would say I know who that is

that's probably not her did you ever see that thing she was in with Ruffalo on HBO what was that called I loved that it was very very dark though it wasn't like a comedy at all yeah where

I think think i know what you're talking about let me find it real quick um i know this much is true that's it well what a powerful series that was it was one of us recommended it to the other and i can't remember who it was yeah it was the two right because uh ruffalo played twin brothers yeah it was highly recommend that if you guys have never seen it's very good right uh nope west not amy branneman either uh i think her name's on the big list isn't it i think so too let's see here the list uh the list uh right now is up to a hundred and

13 names oh somebody did finally put Pamela Adlon on here nope I can cross that one off Lisa Edelstein who's that I don't know who Lisa Edelstein is Lisa Edelstein I can't think of what her

her famous thing is let's pull her up let's pull her up oh I know her she's on here twice somebody put her on as Lisa Edelstein and then again as Lisa Edlstein Just in case

She was on house She did Let's see Yeah She's another one Who ticks off A lot of the boxes Boy those boxes are ticked

Yeah She ticks a lot of the boxes For who I'm thinking of Um Minsky method The good doctor She didn't a lot of stuff Scandal

House of wise White brunette 40s to 50s Um In this In this role She had long straight brown hair Dark hair

Um But obviously you know, that doesn't mean that she does everywhere else, so yeah, actually the Google Doc actually lists the whole qualification. Brunette actress, longer, darker brown hair,

slightly nasal voice, a Wendy Malick vibe, similar age facial features, but with darker, more striking eyes, the character, blah, blah, blah. So yeah, if you, I'll put the, a link in the chat room again for this. I think I've caught up with all the exes.

Oh, nope. Michelle Johnson, let's see, Rebecca Pigeon, Sadie Frost. It looks like you have some more to check out. I won't do it during the show. I don't know who Sadie Frost is either. I never heard of that person. Yeah, Michelle Johnson. Hmm?

I know Julie Warner. That name's from there. Yeah, Julie Warner was in, um, uh, Doc Hollywood and stuff, right? Am I thinking of the person? I think so. Is that her? Yeah. That's my memory is that's her.

Oh, wow. Elisa Edelstein is, uh, lovely for 58. Sheld Johnson by that. Yeah, right. Actually, everybody on this list, they're all lovely human beings. I like them all. And it's not Bay Arthur. Salt Bay Arthur.

No, sorry, whatnot. Bay Arthur. Jeez. Bay Arthur. It's none of the golden girls, you guys. None of them. It is none of the golden girls. We can eliminate all four of them.

Not one of them. And not Mary Steenbergen. Bergen. Bergen. Sting Bergen? Stingbergen. I think it's a soft G. I think so, too.

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This weird company out of Out of the Northwest called Amazon But I want to see some quality from them first, too. How do they do it? You just go somewhere and buy a shirt? Yeah, you just go to Amazon.com and buy the shirts. So I can put links on the Coverville. Oh, you just do it as an Amazon store.

I get it. As an Amazon store. And I've already got an Amazon store set up. But, yeah. But I want to see some quality before I... I want to see the quality of the shirts before I commit to that. Oh, I see. Modify Amazon merch.

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Yeah. That's interesting. I'm looking for something similar. All right. I let you know what I find out when I see. Yeah, let me know. I'd be curious. They'll send me a sample of the quality before.

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Yeah exactly A photo got third place In an AI art contest okay so it was a contest for AI art that's fine whatever we you know it's like meant to be what it is but then the human photographer who actually took the photo came forward and ruined everybody's day oh my god so we're totally ruining these AI competitions by actually having human involvement that sucks it sucks so bad the AI industry is getting tainted by the involvement of humans can you believe that can you believe it it's just dark day for all of us

us take a moment and think about real hard what we want this future to look like. A jury or juried, I should say, photography, photography, photography contest was disqualified, or they disqualified one of the images originally picked by the top three finisher in its new AI art category.

I don't know why you have the category in the first place. It's stupid. The reason for the disqualification, the photo was actually taken by a human and not generated by an AI model. The 1839 awards launched last year is a way to honor photography as a art form with a panel of experienced judges who work with photos of the New York Times, Christie's, and Getty Images, among others. There's a lot of highfalutin people there. The contest rules sought to separate AI images into their own categories a way to separate out the work of increasingly impressive

image generators from those that use cameras and their artistic medium, as the 1839 Award site puts it. For the non-AI categories, the 1839 Award rules note, quote, they reserve the right to request proof of the image not being generated by AI as well as for proof of ownership of the original files. Apparently, though, the awards did not request any corresponding proof that submissions in the AI category were, in fact, created by AI. So there's your problem. You had to apply the same rules. Yeah. Yeah, but how do you, do you just record your screen that you're entering in the prompts to get the AI image? You don't have negatives to show. You don't have, like it feels like it's harder

it's harder to prove something is AI it's easier to prove something is real versus AI that's true that's true because you have original work on your camera you can show all of that if you'd want to show you're right you have to be screen grabs

screen grabs of the prompts you got and the screen although you could a talented photoshopper could easily fake that stuff too right that's really funny yeah none of that stuff. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. That's weird. Yeah. Like when Megas says you have to fail a capture test to submit an AI photo. So basically, you have to show

that you can't identify crosswalks. Oh, okay. Yeah, must be AI. Yeah. Those don't look like stairs and bicycles to me, the computer says. That's not a bridge. The thing is, like, why have this at all? Like, just have the rules about photography. And then if somebody breaks it and tries to, like, why are we celebrating AI images? Who is this? to appease. This isn't for anyone. Right, exactly. Yeah. Ooh, you really typed out a nice prompt.

You made a nice paragraph of text that the computer then made an image of it. What a great photograph you generated by typing four words into a prompt. That's nothing to celebrate there. That's just, I'm not even, I'm not even saying it's bullshit. I'm saying it's not award worthy. There's no artistic merit here. It certainly doesn't belong in a, in a photography contest that's been around since 1839. Have a separate, you know, best AI,

generated image using the fewest prompts or something like that. You know, make it, make it something that is a, that is a feat. It is a challenge. But even though, even then you're still looking at whatever Mid-Journey comes up with. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I'd say you take this category out of your overall contest. Okay, you already have all the other cool photo stuff in your contest. Take this one out.

We don't need this one. This is not, this isn't a thing. Nobody's looking at this and going, oh, Bill Weatherson and his rendering from Mid-Jur. and he is so delightful, I believe it'll win first place. Like, shut up, dude. That is horseshit. Right, right. And people are defending and saying, yeah, writing prompts does take talent.

That's so true, right? I mean, and figuring out being able to say, here is the vision I have in my head, what prompts do I need to be able to get that vision fully realized and not just be, well, I guess that is a picture of cookie monster eating an M&M, but that's not the one I was visualizing, but getting the one you really intended. But it, but maybe it just shows.

shouldn't be part, maybe you just shouldn't have an AI category in a photography contest and just have a separate, instead of a category of AI, have a separate contest of AI, and then you don't have to worry about, all right, the rules for this contest, no AI. The rules for this contest, all AI, and then you don't have it muddying each other's waters. Yeah, also, chat room, you don't have to defend stupid shit like this. It's stupid. I think, I think, you know, people, do tend to like look at the the stances we take and and uh and be devil's advocate it's like there is a that's fine think what you want you don't they don't have to it's dumb it's dumb it's dumb it's dumb you could do like brian's right you do a separate contest where you're like you know

the art of this one or the skill involved is your is your prompts we're judging you on your prompts how well did they come out did it represent what you typed were you smart about that that's fine recognize that for whatever godforsaken reason you want to recognize it it's weird okay It's weird. How well did you describe the thing the computer did all the work for? That's stupid. Now, here's how it would make it impressive. The artist draws a little bit of a sketch of what they're intending to create using AI. And then they generate it via AI and you compare what the original sketch was, what their kind of composition of it was and what they were thinking with how well they were able to create a prompt that created a real visualization of that thing, that they were not able to create. create, you know, fully realize themselves. That would be the, that would be the impressive thing. But you don't know what the artist's original intent was when they entered that prompt

or what they were visualizing in their head. So you can't say, oh, that's really close to what you had in mind. Good job. Yes, it pulled some great things from other sources to make the thing. Also, I don't want to break anybody's parade here. But part of the reason this technology is impressive is because it grows so quickly. So what you end up having is down the road, you will have to be way less verbose to get what you want.

You'll get to a point where you'll be able to say, I want a pretty scene on the beach, and it will give you exactly what you want because it knows you so well. It won't care what else you did. It won't care about your flowery prompt anymore. That's the point of it. Apple intelligence, Scott,

one of the great products coming from Apple in 2025. The biggest photos redesign ever. Great. Great. We now put your photos. in a random order, helping you discover photos that you forgot you took. That's right. Look at this screenshot you sent to tech support for audio engine in 2026. You never would have found that in other way.

I mean, look at it this way. A painter, a photographer, their tools may change. They may go digital. They may stay traditional. It doesn't matter, though. However those tools change, no matter what benefits it brings them, whether it's convenience or less mess or whatever it is, you still have to rely on the output of that humans' brain

and their artistic talent to take a prompt and tell it to do a thing is relying on a machine doing what the machine claims it can do. I don't know why this is such a hard thing for people to get. It just basically is, you know, it requires a different skill set, obviously requires a different skill set, but also the, you know, you don't have to prove that what you've churned out using AI is what your original tent was. You might be like, oh, well, this was my original thought for the composition of a pretty beach scene, but what it came up with was really cool and very different from my original thought, but I'm going to turn that one in as well. It doesn't, it doesn't, the genesis of it didn't come from the artist. you know, the prompts came from the artist

and they got something different than what they were initially visualizing and that was the, I think is the tough thing. Yeah, I would do this as a contest. I would dare anyone who thinks they're an amazing, quote unquote, prompt artist to also paint me something by hand to give me an actual piece of art as well. Like, they can't do it. They can't do it. Some might. I mean, not being able to draw, shouldn't be a precursor

for not being able to use AI to... That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I'm not going to look at your computer-generated thing and go, you are an amazing artist. I can't do it. It's not because they aren't. You're an amazing prompter. I guess so.

You're an amazing prompter. Use that skill for whatever future prompter needs, America needs. We need you at the front-line prompter. I think I-court settles this. Just have AI judge the AI contest. Yeah. for real man have that snake eat itself all day long for all I care yeah yeah uh let's talk about these seven sets of twins that were born within days of each other at the same Ohio

hospital oh man all right a I did was not involved in the creation of his children AI babies uh something they don't see very often says the hospital as administrator an Ohio hospital neonatal ICU stuff uh stuff I think anything's staff they put stuff I see you stuff I see you stuff this article written by People magazine by AI yeah good job people

anyway staff staff has the work cut out for them after seven sets of twins were bored with just within a couple of days of each other and a Facebook post shared Tuesday June 11 the Cleveland Clinics Hillcrest Hospital in Mayfield Heights wrote that the hospital's NICU or NICU and postpartum units

have been very busy with the large number of twin births over the past week. Quote, we've been feeding double the love, sorry, we've been feeding double the love caring for seven sets of newborn twins. That doesn't make sense either. We've been feeling double the love caring. Oh, feeling the double. You know, there should be a comma. We've been feeling double the love, comma, caring for seven sets of newborn twins at the same time. They put a comma there at the ad. After seven set of newborn twins at the same time, that that comma should be people magazine. what are you do people people online anyway what are you doing i i mean they've they've fallen so far

you know yeah grammar problems they're just like us the uh some some parents unwelcome or sorry welcomed unwelcome welcome welcome their first babies while others like jason and care expanded their now family of seven good lord the post continues along photos of couples and their newborns as well as several more snapshots of the sets of twins best wishes to all says the post hospital nurses Caroline Farrenkack and Haley Wedler Farrenkack. That's cool.

Do you like that name? I like Farronkak. Yeah. Is your lady in your dream name Karen? Maybe her name is pronounced a soft sea. Forensic. Forensic? She's a hospital nurse forensic. That's a crazy name.

Anyway, they told the local ABC station there while they're used to taking care of a large number of babies at once, the 14 newborns were born in Mayfield Heights this week have them seen double they say how are we going to get them all done says fair and cack and wait a minute you guys all had the same fertility doctor that guy right over there who's slowly backing into a bush yeah what magical chemicals did doctor do too much use over there well anyway good luck to all of them that's a lot of twins I always wanted to have, I wanted to be a twin and I wanted to have twins. I don't know why.

Really? Yeah. I don't know why. I thought it would be fun in both cases. The one, where I wanted to be twins was because you can screw around with people, right? Right, right, right. Play tricks and stuff. You can pull the prestige. Yeah. Absolutely. And I used to ask Bill and the trick is the prestige. I've asked, I've asked Bill and Jamie Duran if they've ever did anything of that. He said, no, they didn't ever really screw around like that. Oh, I thought, I thought he said they did. Did they not? I thought he told me they never really did. They never like swapped dates or, you know. No, but they did something with cosplay at DragonCon or something or maybe not. Oh, maybe. Maybe something more

recent. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But I think when I asked him about childhood and stuff, you're talking about kids stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's, I feel like that's when you'd sew your oats, you know. Yeah. I never wanted to have twins. I'm so glad that Tristan wasn't a pair of children. Yeah. I would have been all right with it, I think. I don't know. I don't know what, I don't know why I wanted that, but I thought it seemed cool. I like the movie Twins. I like, you know, DeVito and Schwarzenegger as a pair of twins. That's good.

I like that. Sure. Yeah. Do we like that movie, though? Do we like it now? No. No, we really don't. Yeah, I don't think we do now.

But I think at the time we thought, well, this is silly, but okay. Because I wonder how, like, I actually think kindergarten cop sort of holds up. It's okay. It's not recent-ish. It's all right. But twins? Aren't they doing a new one, too? I heard some rumor.

And what's the one where Arnold's pregnant? That's twins, isn't it? Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. No, that's exact. I do the same thing. Because that also had DeVito in it, and I tend to like Junior. Yeah, see, I tend to make those the same movie.

Well, they're both in it, right? They're DeVito's back. Yeah, that's confusing. What year was that anyway? Let's see, 94 was. who was the lady Emma Thompson, okay Emma Thompson, was that your lady

by chance? Nope, nope. Neither was it Pamela Reed. Was it Ada Turturro who played Tony Sopranos sister on the Sopranos? It was not. It was also not Frank Langella. It was also in junior.

Well, that's good to know. Geez. Yeah, yeah. Would you think of, oh yeah, Arnold Schwarzenner was praying? Yeah, that was a movie Twins. Like, oh, wait, no, it was not. But, you know, Mandela Effect, or not even Mandela Effect, just the fact that they came around, came out so close to each other. And they're such stupid premises. That's the other reason they stick out.

Yeah. What happened to those days? We don't do that in movies anymore. Nobody makes a movie about talking babies anymore and stuff like that. We're done. I mean, you know, we've got a CGI talking cat who doesn't like Mondays and eats lasagna coming out. Yeah, but that's animated towards kids. It can be silly.

Yeah, if you animated, I get it. is there any live action like name something that's like twins or junior the lobster poor things we've just got one guy who's making those those far-fetched ideas into live action films anymore I guess you have to make them dark and weird though to make them work you have to make them dark and weird they can't be comedies yeah yeah you just don't see it anymore I don't know if they just don't sell you know the MCUification of movie theaters where everybody just goes for the big loud movies nobody mixed small dumb comedies anymore i don't know oh t r p w yeah this current season of doctor who i am so i'm enjoying episodes and i'm really not there are other episodes i'm not enjoying i love chudigatwa

and chudy gotwa as the um as the new doctor the first uh the first non what's his deal he's the first non-u k born uh oh doctor is he i thought he was born in the uk that actor anyway that actor i don't I think it was born in the UK. He was from sex education, that guy, right? He's from sex education. I mean, obviously the first openly gay doctor, the first black doctor. Let's see, born in Rwanda.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So, but they're just episodes that aren't working for you. You're not enjoying them? Yeah, there's like this, the Talking Baby episode was, difficult. The black mirror episode of, you know, where social media turns a bunch of, you know, basically it's a dark prophecy of social media kind of thing. Not liking that one either.

But there's a whole episode that doesn't really feature the doctor except in the very beginning and the very end that I thought was really, really cool. And that was, that's creepy and dark on close to the levels of don't blink, which is kind of the one. Did we watch that for a... I don't know. I think we did watch that for a couch party. We saw a Christmasy one. Is that the Christmas one?

No, but we watched another one that was about these statues that come to life when you're not looking at them. I don't remember. Maybe we did. Maybe we didn't. I don't remember at all. But that doesn't mean we didn't. It's possible that I completely forgot what that was about.

I like the new doctor a lot. I like the companions a lot. I'm not like in the... Oh, just blink, not don't blink. and I'm not liking, but I'm not liking about half of the episodes that they've been putting out. Oh, there's another one where the doctor steps on a mine in the beginning of the episode and everything takes place around him because he can't lift his foot off of this mine or disable or anything like that.

And that one's pretty cool. That sounds good. I like the premise. Yeah, that's a very cool premise. That was a good episode. I forgot he was one of the Ken's and Barbie. Totally forgot. Right, yeah. Well, there were a lot of kens and Barbie.

So many kens. So a few barbies. So many, many kens. Yeah, but this one is ours. Let's move on to this story. China's next gen. Oh, this is exciting stuff here. Yeah.

No twins coming from these. No. Well, maybe. Maybe you buy two at a time. I don't know. China's next gen sex bots are coming, and they are AI powered. Hey, hey, all you prompt winners. Go over to China.

You got a job waiting for you. They're about to hit shelves. So if you were waiting for a really hot next-gen sex bot from China, this is maybe the time to get in. Chinese scientists and engineers are applying chat GPT-like technology to sex robots, aiming to create an interactive artificial intelligence. These companions, they want to create these in the face of technical and ethical challenges, of course. In Shenzhen, Sharpery Technology, this is a company there. I've been to Shenzhen.

That is a big factory town, and there is a lot of weird. There's weird stuff in Shenzhen. in. A couple of things jump to mind. One, that's where SARS started way back in the day. Oh, really? Okay. That's fun. And then some of you kids may

have forgotten about SARS, but you know, with COVID and everything, but SARS is a big deal for a minute. They should put up a SARS guard. They really should have. At least one of them. The one that's least busy. To protect, yeah, to keep SARS from getting out. Yeah, there's always at least two SARS guards working in other places. Master and apprentice, yes.

just get the old man out there he'd be happy to do it um anyway what was i going to say oh uh and then the other thing about shenzhen is this that was the place where everyone i saw was either loaded and owned to these factories or had no money and either worked at the factories for a pittance or were homeless but everyone had cell phones everyone didn't matter who you were you had a cell phone this is back before smartphones even sure and i asked one of the factory people um i said what is the deal with that and she says what we do is the government brings in a big container like you have on a truck like optimist prime's back end right like a big old container and they inside of these containers is just loaded with trans transmitter cell stuff and they just

plop one of these down in the middle of town and now for however many miles radius everyone has access to the cell network and then they have cheap cheap phones that everybody can have so wow it was weird guys laying in the gutter but they're on their phone it's just weird and then the other weird thing was is they had um this is the place where i went to a nike factory just to visit it they were showing showing off their other factories a nike factory across town made only the left shoe and a nike factory so many miles away the other part of town made the right shoes it just blows my mind yeah that i mean i guess obviously the souls and everything has to be different but the fact that Um, I mean, it's not like they can have one machine that turns out, it feels like they should have one machine that, that turns, turns them out side by side both, but, um, maybe they do now. Maybe now they've been proved all that. But back in the early or the mid-aughts, they were like, crazy. Very, it was so weird to me. And it, and it also rang a bell with me because I've never felt like Nike shoes fit me right. My, my, my, my nikes have always been a little off on one foot versus the other foot. And so now my new excuse was, well, that's because they make them across town. Nobody knows what each other's doing.

That's her problem right there. Oh, interesting. Incredible sausage says preventing mass theft. That's an interesting, and I-Corps says it too, preventing theft and resale. Thief. Oh, you mean theft from the factory? Yeah, like somebody's saying I'm taking home a few box of these shoes.

They can't do it if they can only get the left shoes. Because they're working really closely with somebody who works in the right shoe factory. Yeah, a guy named Kevin. Kevin might have to work really hard with another guy named Kevin at the other factory. I knew like 20 Kevin's that worked at these factories. They all called themselves Kevin. So weird. Yeah.

All right. Well, there's that. Oh, okay. So here's the thing. The sex bots. Yeah, they're making these sex bots. They are now training their own large language model. They're not using somebody else's to enhance its product with AI.

These sex dolls with unprecedented capabilities, you fill in the blanks there. Available in male and female forms, this will soon be hitting the shelves. We are in development of next generation sex. all that can interact vocally and physically with users, with prototypes expected, rather, by August this year, says CEO Evan Lee. That's almost, Kevin. Almost, yeah, yeah.

Said earlier this month. Technology changes or challenges remain, particularly in achieving realistic human interaction, he said, while simple dialogue is easy, creating interactive responses involves complex model development and specialized software companies. Hey, baby, you like that? Oh, yeah, you like that? Here's what I found on the web. yeah i wonder if it ever does that i couldn't find anything here's maybe here's something that will

help it would be amazing sent you to a wikipedia article about domination or something baby you like that now playing aloe black's latest album that's right no i said bj not whatever it is playing b j thomas raindrops keep falling on my head I want all of this to be true, so bad. These traditional dolls supported by metal skeleton and silicone exterior are limited to simple responses and lack the aggressive abilities needed to engage with a human, says this guy. The new generation of sex dolls, he goes on to say, powered by AI models and equipped with sensors, can react to both movements and speech. Well, you're just going to run over that movement word as if there's nothing to it. Like, it's not.

Yeah, one on a more. Right past it. Significantly enhancing user experience by focusing on emotional connection rather than just basic conversational abilities. Boy, I love how they dance around what these things really are for. Yeah, yeah, like by not saying exactly what's going on with it. So I like this photo of the assembly land worker who's working on all the heads. Yeah. And putting in, it looks like he's putting in eyeballs and stuff.

Do you think he says, yeah, somebody is pretty much going to be sticking their dork into each and every one of these things that I'm putting on the... How could you not? I mean, it's all I would bet. If I will, I guess if you do it long. enough you probably just are immune to it but you don't even think about it yeah he's you know he's thinking about that episode of breaking bad he watched the night before yeah but day one on the on the job must be a weird day for these people yeah exactly i can't imagine yeah you're you're putting the lips on these oh great okay i know what's happening with those yeah

two sets of lips um he goes on let's see oh the company is uh focusing on the china or on outside of China, but also the domestic sector. This is an interesting bit. Despite being a largely – yes, the sextor. Despite being a largely conservative society with general reluctance to discuss topics like this, Lee said China hosted the largest market for sex dolls, surpassing the combined sales of the U.S., Japan, and Germany. So, yeah, that place is – even though they're banning – won't let kids play video games and you can't have any kind of porn on any kind of internet. They're pretty cool. they're cool with the sex bots so good job china yeah well down i you know it fascinates me uh but just as a as a as a as a as a as a dude i feel the immense danger of putting any part of my

body especially that part into a machine you could you can you can cover it up with real looking skin and make it talk and blink and whatever and all that stuff but i don't even think uh You know, in the, in the, Brian's trying to get dates era before I married Tina, like, you know, flirting around with people and stuff, I don't think even then I would have said, all right, I'm okay with putting, putting part of me into a, what's basically a toaster. Yeah. Do you think these just, like, USBC chargers and stuff? Like, how do you charge these people? I assume you do. Oh, no, she's added, she's out of juice.

I need to put, plug her in. Oh, dang it, I've got the USB plug upside down. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know if you can plug them in all day and just have them. I'm sure that they have to have, geez, for the amount of movement and talking, I'm guessing probably not battery, but probably plugged in all the time. See, that would just be so distracting. Where is that plug? Is it in its back?

Is it in its head? That's a really good point. Where is the, where, in a foot, maybe? Well, no, because then you've got, you know, you've got the people who are curious about you. our foot fetish us would be like, well, I like this thing, but you put the plug right in the foot, which is my favorite part.

You can't put it in the butt, Tally. You can't put it in the butt. People need the butt. Put it in the back of their neck or something like that, where you can't see it behind the hair or something. I don't know. You know what we need? We need somebody who's listening because I guarantee one of you out there knows this.

Somebody out there's bought one of these things and is embarrassed to say, I will keep you anonymous. We will never use your name. In fact, if you the text line. I won't even know your number. I won't know anything about you. Tell us the, give us the skinny on how these things work. And I'm talking practical stuff. I don't care about all the sex stuff. I'm saying, where do I plug it in? Are they lithium ion batteries? Is there any kind of safety precautions? Can I get this thing wet? Or am I going to have to like watch out for that? How are they around pets? Like, I want to know all the practical answers to all the practical

questions about owning a sex doll. All right? I feel like armpit. Arm pit would be the place to have the plug. Well, there's some people though. There's some people. I mean, there's some people. I saw that movie with Ben Stiller and and the Rosanna, not Rosanna, the other Arquette, Patricia Arquette. I don't know what that is.

What is that? There's a movie where it's Ben Stiller's looking for his real-life parents and I want to say it's Alan Alden, Carol Burnett or something, but he's cheating on Taylione with, or cheating on Patricia Arquette with Tayeone

and he's got an armpit fetish. Okay. I'm not yucking anybody's yum, but it's still, you know, yeah, whatever. Let's see if I can find the, I'll find the photo. Flirting with disaster is the movie. Oh, thank you, the genn. Oh, here you go. Let's just give you, see, I don't want to give you a clip.

I want to just give you this image from YouTube. Can I do that? Oh, copy image and paste. Here you go. All right. Let's have a look. Coming to your deal right there. Oh, yeah.

She had to sit there and just kind of take that, didn't she? She did. Oh, gosh. I'm not showing this. What gross got out the most today. That did. Would you like a link to the full video? No, I don't.

I don't want that. I am good. I've never been better. I don't want that. We're going to take a break When we come back My sister will be here Thank goodness

She can bring some sanity To this world I'll be after this break though And by break I mean song break And by song I mean I think Brian has So Brian let's play it Yeah

Hey I love it when it's somebody In our little community right here So this is a song called Astra And it comes to us from an artist name A artist who goes by the name Straven We all know this too It's Tanner. I love this track.

It's so good. It's so good. It's his first ever single and features a chill down tempo sound made with various synthesizers stacked atop one another. The song was experimental in nature and created as he navigated

using a new DAW for the first time. Many parts of the main melody were created on accident as a copy and paste error due to sleep deprivation, but he liked how it sounded and continued to flesh it out. He found working while deprived of sleep, lowered inhibitions,

and allowed him to experiment with things he normally wouldn't like. And he's continuing to work on new tracks. And there will be an EP out in the future. And I'm hoping that maybe he's going to be an opening act for same-sex Mary at TMS Vegas 2025. We'll have to see. But in the meantime, you've got this one.

Here is Straven and Astra. You know, So, So, you know, I'm going to be able to be. And so, you know, and

you know, and you're Thank you. So, you know, Oh, I'm going to be able to be. So, I'm going to be able to be.

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today. are two important instincts. Sometimes being afraid is just as important as being brave. Sometimes you just can't win. See you all next time. The biggest photos redesign ever. Yes, that's right. New interstitial music because the guy who previously gave me the last one

and said this was copyright-free and no one at buggy about it. Now gets banned on YouTube every day. Oh, geez. Every day I get like 15 claims on YouTube saying this old show, this episode, this episode, this episode. I'm like, yeah, I've used it for like three years. Yeah. Oh, my God. So now I'm on to something new. Anyway, Brian, tell me again about Tanner's new song. Yeah, that is, uh, the song is called Astra A-S-T-R-A. And it's performed by our friend Tanner, who goes by the name Straven for this also on Discord. You'll find him as Straven. are a V-Y-N. Look for it and look for more from him coming in the future. Yeah. I think

me and Straven, AKA Tanner, are kind of in the middle of a two-person book club. Oh, really? Yeah. Depending things back and forth. It's mostly just the two books we're reading right now, or the, I guess the series we're reading. We just constantly back and forth. Dude, did you get to chapter whatever yet? Can you believe that? No way, dude. I got to the end of this one. It's like that kind of stuff constantly. Fantastic. That Red Rising series is so good. All right. Let's get into the Windy world. The world of Wendy. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. Hello, Wendy. How are you?

Oh, I don't hear her. She's muted. Oh, no. Oh, you're back. Now you're back. I hear you know. Where did I park my Wendy? Yeah. If I yell, it works. Yeah, no, you're good. It's nice to have you here. It's my sister Wendy, everybody. She comes on here on Thursday. She helps people with real problems because she is a practicing therapist. And Wendy, I got that book. As you know, I sent you a picture of it.

You said it's like a three-toilet trip book. I didn't say three. Or what'd you say? Something like that. It's a toilet book. It's a toilet book. Yeah. I might just say free.

I don't know. I can't remember what you said. It was long, long poops. Let me see. You're really far away from your mic right now. Oh, yeah. Here's what you said. Yeah, you sound like you're on your phone or something.

Different mic. Yes, I'm not. Yeah. Let me check. You talk. All right. So I sent her this picture. It's called The War of Art.

We talked about it a little bit on the show. So if you didn't get that last time, get it this time. It's very interesting so far. I really like it. And here's what she told me. I sent her a picture. She says, nice. It's a toilet book.

A few good poops and you're done. So that's three poops or more. A few good poops. That's my favorite Tom Cruiseman. Oh, it's so good, man. So good. Well, anyway, Wendy, you're here. And how's your mic now?

How you sound it over there? What do you got going on there? honestly you guys what i don't get it i checked everything is am i yelling now no you sound i mean you're fine yeah i mean you're not no more than usual but it sounded like you're like way far from wherever the mic was now you sound closer so okay maybe maybe we're good sorry about that folks it's all right not my you know look if i have if i have a range of technical siblings you know Wendy's uh she's not the most technical of my siblings i'll just put it that one's your most technical siblings Probably. Actually, you know what? The scary thing is you are.

I know. I was just going to say. Better be Wendy. Have you ever spent time with Matt, Misha, Mark, or any of them with anything technically related? It is a nightmare. Yeah. You're the best. You're the best, Wendy. So I win. I win. And it's still bad. Oh, there we are. That just gives you an idea of the scale we're talking about. Anyway, it's good to have you here. Let's get into it. We got an email to read. read and I'm going to read it. Are you ready for this? Here it comes. All right, excellent. This is an interesting one. Wendy's response to me first was yikes and I agree with her. There's a bit of a yikes factor going on here. Wendy Scott and Brian, my brother-in-law is currently unemployed and his wife

is trying to support them both with her job, but they don't make enough money to pay their bills and mortgage. Two years ago, they bought a house that they could not afford. Both of their parents helped with a down payment. They insisted on having their wedding in the backyard, which they couldn't pay for. So asked his parents for money to pay for things. Finally, something happened with the money his mother gave them for the catering deposit. It was spent on home renovations instead of the catering. And she said, after this, no more money. She has had enough of financially helping him.

She has done it for years and wants to retire soon. Retire from giving them money, I guess, or from a job. Anyway, they think the solution is to sell their house and buy an equivalently priced house that is bigger in another state. See, I know they want kids and are trying to get a house with more bedrooms for the kids. They do not have jobs in the new location, have not even put their house on the market, and are putting offers on houses on the contingency that their house sells. But now my brother-in-law is asking for a letter from his dad to say that he is employed with him when he is not.

My husband and I are very concerned that when they move away from their support structure and have kids without family there to help. Then there's a tea for some reason. Like, oh, it's because it's part of the next line. They don't seem to see it this way, and they think they'll be just a plane ride away, and we'll still see their family. They currently live two hours away in a city

that my husband and I would consider living in the future, but if they do move to another state, we will not be able to help them when they need help. They rush into things without considering the consequences. They got a second dog, which sadly escaped during the storm, and was never found. They got chickens right before their backyard wedding and two of them recently died from the heat wave.

So we are very concerned about them having kids without jobs and buying a house they can't afford, let alone being able to afford children. My husband and I don't know what to do anymore. They won't listen, but his parents don't seem to be able to say no to their son, signed concerned sister-in-law. So does everyone have one of these in their family? I feel like everybody does, you know? Somebody who's just like spends poorly and.

Yeah, just makes bad. bad life decisions and wants more responsibility but doesn't do well with the responsibility they have. Yeah. And this thinks it's all going to work out. Or if they don't like a job in the first week, then they're just going to quit because they don't, you know, they don't stick with things and things like that. That's what this is all feeling like.

And I feel like everybody's got somebody in their life that's like this, friend or family. But Wendy, how do we want to frame this one and talk about it? Let's start with the concern. sister-in-law, which, okay, listen, I'm sure all good intentions, but when I read the words concerned sister-in-law, my first thought is like, oh, no, no, no. Mainly because that feels like, I think it's authentic, but it feels like code for nosy sister-in-law. And I'm starting here because I don't really mean it, because I fully relate to this person. But I also just think, okay, whose business is this?

And this is really hard. This is my tough love medicine, everyone. I was planning to be nice today. But when you read it, I was like, oh, I can't be nice. So you're getting both barrels. I think partly because it is, the concern part is real, right? Your concern is big. It's authentic.

Your in-laws are being taken advantage of. You're watching this. This is triggering a bunch of stuff for you. you know you're going to have to pick up the pieces when they screw a bunch of things up. Like, who gets chickens right before their backyard wedding? Come on. No one's making a good decision. It's a bad decision.

Hey, Wendy, real quick, pull your mic a little closer to you. You went quiet again for some reason. I don't know why. What if I just do this? Is that better? I don't know. Say something again? A little bit.

Hi, how's I'm doing? Weird. Yeah, something's adjusting you down. I don't know why. Anyway. Discord doesn't trust what I have to say. it's entirely possible also um actually you on your phone or are you're on a computer i'm on my computer here let's try something real fast go down to go down to that little uh

this is always fun to do on there yep go down to your little user settings go to that you're on voice settings okay oh awesome so you're way ahead of the game um we're going to try you are the most technically advanced uh sibling yes by far still doesn't say a lot um anyway go down go down to where you've got a voice or where we go automatic gain control and turn that on automatic what control gain gain control automatic gain it's down on the bottom third of of choices and it's like a little switch do you see oh yeah it's on that's already on okay and however whatever distance you are from the mic now is perfect yeah do you know what it was what was it i i accidentally put the input volume down and did the output volume up and i kind of backwards

There you go. Oh, all right. Hey, look, I'm not saying, I don't want to forget about everything I said earlier. All right. Forget about all that stuff. I'm still the best, family. You're still the best, yeah. You're still the best.

Okay. Back to me insulting the emailer. No, I was not, I don't mean it that way at all. I think that concern is real. And I do think that is anyone related to anyone making these choices isn't going to be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. But notice that last paragraph, oh, let's see, I don't know which paragraph it is. the second paragraph

towards the end she says they currently live two hours, drives away in a city, my husband and I would consider living in the future. But if they move to another state, we will not be able to help them when they need help.

Yeah. So we are already in this caretaking role. Yeah. Right. And you know what I am going to guarantee if I talk to this guy and his wife.

The emailer or the person being emailed about? Yeah. The person being, emailed about. If I asked them about the chickens, I asked about their wedding and ask, oh, sorry about your dog. Tell me about your dog. Oh, what are you going to do with the housing? I guarantee they would be talking as if they're making all sorts of normal decisions and they're fine, right? Yeah. Most people are not like, I'm like a chicken with my head got off. I'm making crazy

decisions left and right. They know what they're, they know what they're doing is what they are doing. They don't, people are usually not fairly aware, mainly because we have. We have. We have. We all have our different tolerances, right? So when you two read this email, what happens to you? I have a yikes because I think of if this was my brother or my sister, this would really stress me out because I would be just like the email or going like, what are we going to do? What if we have when they have kids? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But what happens to the two of you when you read it? That's the first thing I think of too. I don't have, you know, I have a sibling or a person in the family that I think of that's similar to this. But, you know, you think, oh, my God,

you know, this person is barely and not very well taking care of dogs and chickens. How are they going to do with an actual living, breathing child? I want them to do the carry around a thing of flour, a bag of flour for a month. And let's look and see how that flower looks by the end of that they've lost it or or set it on the stove accidentally or something. It's a little bit. Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah.

How about you? What does it do for your? It immediately gave me, not anxiety. It gave me flashbacks of very similar stuff with some in-laws that are almost identical to this situation. Almost exactly like this. Maybe worse because in their particular case, there are. many kids involved already and uh oh it was it was an ugly it was an ugly time let's put it that way so so my initial reaction of this is very visceral and like um i have it's hard for me

to talk to people who are acting openly against their best interests obviously so because we also live in a society where you're not meant to criticize everybody for what they're doing all the time you know so you feel a little bit trapped in you know you're only an in-law can't really do much it doesn't matter kind of what I say but I am going to say I am probably going to say no when they come to me for more help because I'll be like no after that other stuff and then I'll get labeled the guy that doesn't want to help which isn't true it's just that I can't help that's fine yeah I mean if they're spending the money that that's been given to them on the thing that with the money was given to them not

the thing that was the money was given to them for boy that made a lot of sense um then you know you don't want to help them because they might reuse re-gift your help in a different way or yeah yeah or yeah it's it just a bad decision of all all around it's just a bad scene and i and i get really visceral about it and weird and so this whole this whole thing when we first got the emails it's like oh freaking i hate this so much because it's just because what are you going to do you can't you can help where it makes sense for you to help and all that. But if it's just this repeated behavior and it never improves, like, what are you actually meant to do? And I don't have a good answer for that. If it was just the two of them, you know, cutting them off, it's like, good, this will teach them to learn to take care of

themselves. No problem. Great. This is the way to do it. But the thought of them bringing another person into the world, it's like, well, crap, now I can't just, just, you know, wash my hands of the whole situation and let them let them do it because like oh now I feel like because I've helped them so much in the past and they're maybe relying on that help I'm partially responsible for this like I'm partially responsible for where they're at yeah or I'm helping I'm helping them stay stay in their rut because I'm enabling them right because if we break this down to a couple factors one is that they are the the brother is so it sounds like the wife married to the

brother and that's her brother, his, his brother behaving this way towards his parents, right? And, you know, trying to get dad to lie on a letter saying he's employed by him when he's not, you know, using money, willy-nilly, right? Like, it sounds like they're using the parents and that is, so number one, the first sort of inappropriate deal going on is there. And so as children another sibling watching this has got to be really frustrating um i would love if if she had included in here how her husband exactly like does he feel any different from her it sounds like he's they agree right for the most part yeah sounds like it but and that they've they've both made these attempts to try to talk them into making better decisions or or or holding their parents

boundaries for them or trying to right um but there's reasons that's happening and that it did that came along way before you guys got involved. And maybe it's always been that way. And that would be interesting to find out, like, is this dynamic where this kid and the family is always kind of messed around and his parents have rescued him over and over and over again and they continue to do so? And you're having a response that's like, well, I'm the responsible kid. And I'm not asking for money.

And he's blowing through my inheritance. Or, you know, you kind of got to look at how this affects some of the factors. that are making this harder for you that you might need to deal with on your own. Because really, this is what I'll just go away if these guys would just behave and be normal and we could all watch them and babysit them? And that's not what anybody actually wants to do, what they want, yeah, they want them to just not behave this way. So you think about it in terms of influence.

Where do they actually have influence this couple on the other couple and the parents? It sounds like there's four people who they have concerns about, but I'm guessing the influence is, you know, so I would ask that. What is the actual influence you have? Can you sit down and talk to mom and dad, talk about saying no? Also, just really recognizing what is my job here? That would be my number one thing to think through. What is my actual job? I've just had a nosy sister-in-law, so that's why I was triggered by that.

but also just thinking from a you know we might need to get a little zen about some of this like what do you actually have control over is not the same thing you're concerned about and so let's be really honest what do you have control over what influence do you actually have so let's make some guesses what do you guys think their influences I mean these on the decisions you make and the parents oh man well you can only compare it to what I would think would happen in your own life or whatever. I'm trying to think how that would be if it were me.

I mean, their influence is clearly limited because even if they say, hey, we're helping you out with money for this, they're going to spend it on that. Do whatever they want. That seems clear to me.

Yeah. It's, if they were to say they were going to get involved and say, don't have a kid, they'll be, okay, bye,

and then they're going to have a kid. Yeah. If they had a, larger influence. I don't know that they would be emailing us. So probably not a lot of influence if I had to guess. Honestly, a little reverse psychology. You might go a long way. Just tell them over and over what great parents they'll make. They should definitely have 20 kids. Just lay it on thick. And here's the thing. They're going to do whatever they want. So your decision, your interactions need to be a little more considered, right? Because if you let the stress or anxiety of just kind of go unchecked about

what they are going to create, notice there's lots of future concern, right? That's the, holy crap, look what do they do now? What are they going to do in the future? And then stop and say, okay, what could what influence do I actually have on any of this? So will they talk to you? Do they listen to you? Do they ask for your opinion? Do they, do you give them money? Because that might be the one place. I think this is really a common dynamic is parents give their kids money when they're convinced the kid needs the money and they will repeat that behavior because they don't want to lose contact with the kid or they believe whatever they're saying or but these parents probably know they're not very responsible with money and somehow they still can't say no.

Do you have influence with them? Are they asking for your support? Do you want a family plan to have boundaries? because guess what will happen? They'll move to another state. They're going to do whatever they want. I think that's probably just true. And your power really lies within recognizing and staying in the lane that you actually

have some influence in and learning to let go. I understand when you're like, oh, I'll just let him do whatever. And then I pick up the pieces. So my question would be, do you guys have you picked up the pieces or is it the fear that you will have to? Because sometimes you, you know, you worry. and you can come up with the scenario where you're going to be called to fix it when has that actually happened. So that'd be another question I would have. Yeah, I guess that's never really

happened to us in terms of like having to fix it, like ultimately fix it. Because like there's no, there's no way to, you know, we, how do we put this? We're not going to suddenly have, we're not going to suddenly take six kids in, you know, young adult teenagers in and have them live here to solve everybody's problem. That's not going to happen. There's no room. So other ways would be financial, you know, I don't have enough money to do that either. So I don't see, that's the problem is how you expect people to take care of their own shiz. So when they don't, you're like, well, I don't have, I don't have the extra bandwidth for it. I don't have the room. right to get it done so has anyone have they asked you to do any of those things some yeah a lot some

time ago i mean this is a complicated thing because the state of where it's at now is very different than it was even a year ago okay for reasons i won't get into but um there have been times yeah where it's like we would get asked to usually financial like we need to get you know you got to bail us out this month or certain things come and do and we can't afford it or or whatever and it started to get to the point where we were they were coming to us every time and nobody else and like well why is that is it because we're too easy are we are we not expecting are we the only ones not demanding some kind of showing us that this is the last time this'll have you know i don't i don't know and it's always awkward because you don't you also want to help when people need help

yeah but boy is it great when you're working with somebody who appreciates the help wishes they didn't need it and does all they can to never need it again right man that's nice you see them using that to actively not let it happen yeah it's so nice to see it right like it's it's a it's a thing and they and they're almost like we went through this as a family growing up when dad lost all of the businesses and the money and everything we had to rely on the kindness of others for a bunch of reasons and but there was never any moment where we're like like, well, this is just us now. We're just going to ask other people to help bail us out. We're not going to pull up our own pants. We're going to just have everyone else do it.

We never did that. It was always like, we hate this. We never want this again. We'll pay anything back that we can find to pay back. If it's possible, we'll pay it back. And then we'll get and then back on our feet as a family and we don't need anyone's help anymore. Like that was, that was always the motivator. There was always that engine working, right? When it doesn't work, when people don't feel that way about just their every day. I don't know how to help them. I don't know how to give them the motivation they need to get out of that cycle. Well, you're hitting on like some core stuff, right?

Well, who taught you to think that way? It was your parents, right? Yeah. And we have in this case two sets of parents helping them buy a house they cannot afford. So we have four adults saying, I don't think this is going to work, but I'm going to give. them money anyway. And you do that for a few reasons. You don't do that just because it makes financial sense. No one ever does that. What they do is they're hopeful, maybe this will get

them started or, you know, so there's, there's a bit of a, um, the softy situation where you're just like, I promised dad all. And then they don't. And then you just don't hold them to that. And there's a reason. There's a reason this works. And someone can do this for endless amounts of time. And that is because the parents don't want to lose the connection. They don't want to get in trouble. They're kind of afraid of a kid. That's a thing. And so that would be an interesting question to ask, too, you know, like, okay, so here's

a sister-in-law and her husband. Have they asked for money? Do they get help on the down payment for their house? And they just behave differently. And so this is extra bothersome. Or do they get nothing? And that's also really bothersome? You know, what is their take on how the parents, because you can have

compassion for parents who are like, this is the one way I can stay in contact with my kids, is I help pay for things or this, I don't want to make. Yeah, all those things. And if you don't start that, I'm telling you at age five, it's going to be hard later on to be like, yep, I just give you what you want and there is no consequence. And that, that, this is what you, you see as that plays out. So that can be really frustrating to watch, but it is also not something you created or even something you can fix. So a big part of this would come down to the parents making different decisions in helping them or not. And they may just decide, I guess I don't retire, I just help this kid forever. I mean, there's a million stories like that, right?

Not ideal. But on the side here a little bit is this couple, what are they doing? Are they planning on, you know, what financial decisions are they making? It's a little bit like, focus on yourself and check all that. And of course, they didn't write all that in. But I always would tell people that, like, okay, where are you with your version of this exact same story? Like, let's check ourselves. Are you guys secure and said and not needing any help and that sort of thing?

Sure. Yeah. And even just that like it's so easy to see someone else's fault. It's not so easy to see our own. That is a very human challenge, right? Because again, like I said, if we interviewed these two people, they'd be like, we are making plans to move. And it's just a plane running away and it's fine.

And I bet our kids will be awesome because we love chickens. And you know what? Have you guys met half the people in the world? They're all nuts and they're all doing whatever they want. So that's who those neighbors will be. There'll be someone's neighbors and they'll be in another state and they will make their decisions. I think what's hard and I don't know anyone's age here that,

would have been interesting to know their ages. Because if they're in their 20s, early 30s, yeah, you just need more time than you stop Karen. Yeah. There's a little of that where you're like, oh, okay, here's the pattern. Okay. And you start to learn when you set boundaries, they respect the boundaries. And if you don't set boundaries, they're going to take advantage of that.

And you'll learn that. Like I, I mean, Scott, you and I have had some experience with our sister with this. And I found that I don't. It's like she had a radar. Anytime I had a new baby or any kind of really big deal in my life, she would call. And then be like, I need money. And I'd be like, I thought you were going to have called me about the baby that was born two days ago. You know?

It was rough. And I don't know if Abe still remembers this, but he says he did, which was one day just losing it on her on the phone. And he's like, I remember I was sitting in a high chair. I'm like, you don't remember. But anyway, it was me just going, you can't. not treat me like this. Like my boundaries, my lines have been crossed so many times and I finally just, you know, it's hard to do. But man, she was good at pushing those boundaries. And anytime you gave her accountability, like, yeah, I'm happy to pay your rent, but I'm going to send it

directly to the rental agency. Right. I'm like, how I don't want your help. Yeah. So even basic stuff. And so that's what I would advise actually for the parents that they don't get convinced or talked into something, you know, if they really are vulnerable and people are taking money from them, right? Like, that's maybe a different story. But this might just be like, mom and dad are like, ah, it's fine. Let's give them some more money for more chickens or something. But if it is more serious, maybe we need to, you know, take a different tact.

But kind of recognizing, like, some accountability for, do you give anyone else money without any kind of accountability? That's not a thing, right? No, no. Do you get money without? any accountability? No. So just kind of trying to put on normal rules around some things

and see how that goes. If I didn't I noticed in this they didn't ask they haven't asked the couple, the emailer for money. That's not happening, right? It didn't sound like it. It's just skim over this. Yeah, it looks like it's just parents. And I guess the concern is that his parents just keep saying

yes. Yeah. But I'm guessing if the parents were to say no, the emailer would be the next on the list for them to hit up and say, moving down the line. How about you guys? Right. And so just be ready with your no.

Because the other thing I learned, and this was always so scary with Tara, I just thought she's going to, she'll die. She'll have to go, I don't know. If I don't help, if I'm not the one, if I'm the last person, she's asking, you know. And so I was a sucker and did a bunch of things. And then at one point, after I freaked out and just like, you know, you've got to stop calling when I have a brand new baby. and ask me for money.

And what I figured out is, guess what? She survived. She asked someone else. She got a job. She did a million things. I am one of 30 options. The gig was to make you feel like you're the last option. Yeah.

And, you know, that's a survivor. She's a survivor. If nothing else, that woman's a survivor. And once I learned that, it was like I just needed one experience where she turned out fine for me to. not feel the full weight of someone's destiny, right? And I think that's because you care. And so you and your husband care. You care about your brother-in-law and sister-in-law. You care that children might be involved one day. You're worried about the chickens. You're concerned.

You know, concerned is the right word. You're not really nosy. But finding your way of sort of articulating what we can control, what we cannot, and what do we need to practice letting go of. It might be, hey, mom and dad, quit telling us about the money you give them. We don't want to hear it anymore. But if you're also barring money all the time from your parents, I don't know, look in the mirror first. And sort of, I recognize it's expensive to live life. And it is hard to do a lot of things. And yes, families need to help each other out.

Absolutely. But there are smarter ways and there are dysfunctional ways to do that. So any kind of accountability that can be put in, like if you, I'm going to take out a loan and you have it written out. This is how, when you're going to pay it back and then you do it, right? Versus sort of this, there's a, there's a threat of dishonesty kind of in this as well that I don't like. And so, you know, you might want to just figure out how to create some boundaries so that you're not as affected and also being clear what you will and won't do and what what your own boundaries are. That's really what we're looking at. It's a lot of messy.

It's interesting too because this is a thing. I don't know if there's a word for this, but maybe it's just normal. or, I don't know, but this idea that most of the time throughout your life, you're getting by with others because there is an agreed upon without actually a formal agreeing, but an agreed upon way of behaving around each other, with each other, whatever. There's like an unspoken set of whatever it may be. And most people, they adhere to it or they understand those kinds of things. you don't even have to verbalize them. It's just like, oh, right, when I'm at a restaurant and you bought last time, I'm going to offer to pay this time for the other couple because that's the nice thing to do, return the favor.

And everyone understands the transaction intuitively. They don't have to figure it out, right? They're not like, weird. We bought them lunch and now they're buying. I don't understand. They don't do that. They get it. They understand.

so when people don't get the norms that's where they're at right and it's so frustrating because the convenience of everyone understanding the contract is that there is no weirdness when someone doesn't get the contract it's automatically weird and you don't we don't have good standard answers for when they're weird i don't have a good way of saying just straight out no or yeah or yes but you'll pay me in 30 days or i'm only doing it if you keep that job for three weeks. Like those kinds of things, they sound terrible coming out of your mouth because the contract isn't being adhered to. And nobody knows how to react to that stuff. I wish we were better as people at when there's a breach of the social contract that we know how better to say it.

So that we are, because what we usually do is we go, oh, crap, I don't want to say it. So therefore, I'll just get taken advantage of a little bit. It's fine. And or resent you after and build a case against you in the dark, you know, because you can't quite communicate, whoa, that are my feelings or, yeah, it's conflict avoidance at the same time. I have a phrase that you were, when you were saying this like social contact. I was kind of thinking of as like goodwill contract. It's kind of unspoken. And this is where, you know, I love to bring everyone's childhood into it, but it's where your childhood has it as an impact. These things are taught some of that goodwill sort of Like, we do this and we don't do this, right?

It's kind of modeled and or, you know, we get what's ours. Take 10 extra ketchips, you know, whatever. Like you're getting what you're entitled to, yes. Yeah. And lie because you know they're lying to you. You know, like you can you can teach a million things to a child without, which is why these guys are worried about these kids, like them having children. You can teach that.

And then what happens is people are, like, whoa, why is this breaking down? Why is this not working? And it's because we have different sets of expectations. We were taught different things. So, yeah, I think, I think you're right. I think that's a big factor happening here. And so they're, she's emailing in saying like, oh, how do I handle that they have broken all the social norm contracts that, you know, we see as normal, but they don't. And the reality is, unless you want to sit down and sort of reparent them, it's going to be tricky and most people are not going to hear you and usually just they learn from the consequences and that's really hard to say so you get chickens before a wedding and they die in a heat wave

okay there's some consequences did they learn you know they might think chickens are expendable chickens we bought some bad chickens that that aren't weren't heat treated yeah and it's a rough year so you know salty chickens yeah so you can always justify whatever it is you are doing in your life. And so when people come to therapy after years of whatever they've been doing, they often are like, okay, I keep having the same relationship. Oh, yeah, why do I keep picking blah, blah, blah? And it's because, you know, your first relationship, you aren't thinking anything.

Second relationship, you're like, well, this is better than the first. And then the third and fourth, you're like, wow, this is similar. And maybe something's going on. So it takes a minute. It takes some life. I think for some of the awareness and the consequences to add up, that can feel really scary when you're watching that happen and having to let it happen.

I joke that sometimes, like, on a first session, I'd be like, I know exactly what I might say on session 10, but you need to know me better. And we can't go there yet because you won't hear it, right? And then at some point, I can say, hey, do you see how blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, yeah. Whereas if I said that in session one, they would walk out because they're not ready, they're not ready to hear it.

So I would assume these folks are not ready to hear anything and that they're going to do what they want. So figure out where your power is, if you have any, and what kind of life you guys want to live. Do not go making decisions where you live based on where they live. You're going to be in trouble. Don't do that. Right. I also wish I knew birth order. Is this an older brother?

Is this the younger brother? Oh, good question. Let's see. Brother-in-law is currently employed. they don't say, I won't have an age comparison, so I don't know. No, just know when you email,

Wendy needs birthdays. Just kidding. I just need a few. Social security number and the name of your first pet. I mean, it does change, it does change how you're going to answer things because if you find out they're 19 to 24,

that's a very different bunch of answers than if they're 52 to 60. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And if this, if your husband is the oldest brother, and this is the youngest, brother and there's you know or that's the oldest brother oh or you know whatever so sometimes that

helps so but yeah this this is tricky so thanks for stressing us all out with your i feel like it hits home right like this really resonates it's home yeah hits home hardcore i haven't even thought about the the whole terra connection but that's a good one um and there are plenty that's why i mean i think everybody's got some like some version of this you know somewhere in their life, whether it's a close friend or someone they work with or family, even, it's even harder with family, because you feel obligated. Just why they have all the stings, right? Like, don't, don't lend money to family or whatever. What are all the, like, often colloquialisms. Like, just don't. Yeah, don't. What's it?

There's one you always hear. Oh, never get into business with any kind of clergy. Like, like, if you're like, you know somebody who's like in a clergy position of some sort, no matter what denomination, I don't care. And they're like, hey, you want to invest in my little side gig, don't do it. No. Don't do it. No. Because you're going to hold them to a different standard, and they're not going to meet it.

They're not going to meet it. Yes. Or don't mix business with pleasure. There's the phrase I was thinking of. Yeah. I don't know. TMS. Don't mix family with pleasure either.

TMS Vegas is the only example of mixing work and pleasure that I like. That's so true. There's things like that. Listen, business. is our pleasure. Don't mix your after our wedding, chicken and heat waves. Don't mix those ones either. Right.

So Bobby Franks in the chat says, what a weird piece of advice, never heard of the clergy thing before. Okay, I'll just, for some perspective, here in Utah, lots of Mormons, lots of Mormon families.

Mormon local church authorities are all lay person. They don't get paid. It's not a job. They just are volunteers. They get asked to do it and they do it. It's those guys who are, like, I've got a little MLM on the side I want you to work with me on. Avoid that is all I'm

saying. So maybe this is less advice for well-paid Southern Baptists. I don't know, but that's the reason I brought that up. Well, anyway, there you have it. Wendy, I hope we hear back from them on this because I feel like I need closure, even though this isn't me, it gives me the same emotions and like visceral feelings that I get from this problem. Yeah. And I should end with a compliment. It's because you care. You're good people. Right? It's hard to be a good people.

Yeah. If you want to be a good people, you got to work at it, you know? My problem is that I care too much. Exactly. Awesome. Well, we'll be doing this again real soon and lots of cool stuff coming your way from Wendy, so keep your eyes peeled for all of that. Wendy, anything else you want to mention before we go today?

Oh, but I will stop messing with my voice settings and leave it at this. Yeah, this is perfect. screenshot that so you can always refer back to you'll never forget uh we'll see you soon all right there she goes there she goes memorize it learn it learn it live it what's that from how do i know that's from fast times of regamont high oh that's why boy it's been a while judge reinhold uh yeah that feels like a film sac movie even though it's a comedy because of its important place in film mystery don't you think yeah plus it's an excuse to watch that scene yeah We really should.

That car is moving in stereo scene. It's, you know, any excuse. Sure, we need to watch that for film's sake. Maybe we'll watch just that scene. Yeah. Dr. Calhoun also correct. Utah is the capital of pyramid schemes. People love MLMs here. There's tons of them.

I don't know if there are more lax laws or whatever, but everything from Dutera, the oils people to, oh gosh, there's so many. I can't even think of them all. Anyway, there's tons and they all suck. I hate it. I hate multi-level marketing. Um, all right.

You hate MLMs just as much as LLMs. Yeah, I like LLMs I'm okay with. I don't mind large language models. What I don't like are prompters who think they're freaking, uh, DaVinci. That's what I don't like. You think they're photography contest winners. Look what I have created with my text. Um, all right.

That's it for today, uh, Brian, Coverville today or no. I can't remember what you said. Today. Yes, it's the 40th anniversary of Prince's album, Purple Rain, that monumental June 1984 album that gave us a whole bunch of classics, like

I would die for you. Baby, I'm a star. The beautiful ones, my favorite song by Prince, and a song that he recorded after the rest of the album was finished, when Doves cry. What? Yep, that's right. The biggest, the hit single from that

album, the first single from that album was the last he recorded for it. Of course, we're celebrating the anniversary of that with an episode of coverville where you're going to hear folks like, like the dude, Brett Anderson from the lead singer of Swade, Tina Turner, Martin Sexton, my new favorite singer, Holly Humberstone, even as part of this thing, and the Eaton Canyon Royal Ensemble, all doing covers of songs from that album. So I'm also throwing in a bonus track because I had a hard time deciding on versions of darling Nikki. Oh, yeah.

So get your magazines handy for that one. Now, the time on this one is going to be tricky because as soon as this show is over, I've got the bike rack already on the back of my car. I'm throwing my bike on there and I'm going for a longer than average ride. So Coverville might be as late as like

3 p.m. Mountain time, maybe even. I'm probably not much later than that. But, so just, you know, go to twitch.tv. slash coverville ring the little or click the little bell to get notified when I go live and keep an eye on it and and hopefully you'll be there live for the show very nice a quick shout out by the way to why I almost forgot to show this today to one bio cow in the chat room that thing he sent me I picked it up at the PO box it's a working well that's cool look at that diamond club thing with like lights and stuff it's not plugged in right now because it's too short for where my

power source is but anyway put that somewhere have that on pretty cool He's got a little button. I think he made these. I'll bet he did. Yeah, looking at it, like, very cool. He sent a very nice little letter. He's a super cool dude. Thank you, dude.

Love, uh, love biochow. Yeah, he's the best. Uh, don't forget court tonight, 5 p.m. And also skim sometime today. We're not sure when, but some time is happening. And, uh, couch party tomorrow, 10 a.m. for you patrons. We're going to watch the first half of Serenity and then, uh, do the latter half when Brian gets home.

And, uh, play retro on Friday as well at 1.30. Check that out. It's going to do it for us. And there will be a guest connection tomorrow morning to give away some prizes. I don't know what the prizes are, but, oh, I think a 3D printed snake or something, like a 3D printed articulated snake. I've got one of those to get rid of. So it's your chance to win that and some other weird pop culture prizes, some enamel pins and stuff like that.

So that'll be at 9 o'clock tomorrow on Twitch.tv.TV slash Coverville. Perfect. And you just roll right into it if you're a patron. That's awesome. Yep, exactly. It's funny you bring up those articulated dragons and snakes and stuff. Van showed up at 8.30 this morning

before the show started. Kim's watching her for a few hours or Kim Carter does, or, sorry, Taylor, their mother does a photo shoot. And they both showed up the door holding these big articulated 3D-printed dragons just going, look pops, look what we got, look!

And they're like freaking out about it. And I said, what are those? And he goes, there was a blue one and a red one. He goes, this is APA and this is, I don't know, some other character from the, of Air Bender And I said

Oh that's so cool He goes But when you put them together And they're red and blue Right he goes put them together And now they're Optimus Prime I'm like yeah Nice

That's my influence right there All right anyway That's it for the show everybody Big thanks everybody for listening Go to the website if you need anything Frogpants.com slash TMS All the links are there Just have yourself a good old time

Brian let's get out of here with some music What did you bring? Yeah Lydia wrote in and said, John Bauer, my husband, your patron, is celebrating his birthday on Saturday, June 22nd, and he's turning 68. Holy cow. Wow. Yeah, we know these two come to, I think they've been to a few TMS Vegases, maybe all of them.

I think I know who they are, and I do not think he looks 68 by any stretch. Not even a little bit. Exactly. Not even a little bit. What is he eating? Tell me about his diet. What's going on there? Where's the hyperbaric chamber that he lives in because that's amazing. Give him a happy birthday. Oh, yeah, let's do. You know what? These are the rules.

Happy birthday. You get that one. That's right. She said, any BG's song. So I'm going to do a BG's song, and this is a favorite of mine came out a few years ago. You know, foo fighters, great, great guys. But sometimes they're not foo fighters. Sometimes they're a band called The DGs.

short for Dave Grohl. This is their cover from Hail Satin from 2021 of the Bee Gees Night Fever. coming around, there is sad to go down, I can't feel it. On the ways of the air, there is, there is dancing like there. There's something, we can't share, we can't steal.

A sweetly woman, she moved to the light, controlling my mind and my soul. Good job for me, yeah, and the feeling is right. right I'm the night beva night beva we know how to do it give it up night even we know how to show it we're playing for this mind to life living on the music survive One of the world will Let's it be mine

I'm the might be the divine We know how to do it Here the might be the might be alive We know how to show it In the head of our love Don't need no help for us to make it Give a chance to know They're still in the morning

I've got a smile in my mind I've been tiring for walking And I'm going in the dark Get you won't it A sweet city woman She moved through her life Controlled in my mind and my soul To reach out for me

And I feel a bit straight I'm the night fever, night's divine We know how to do it Give it a note If a night be in the night behind We know how to show it Here I am We are playing for this morning to last

Living on the music to find Born on my room Waiting goodbye I got next people, let me buy We know how to do it Yeah, let's go now That's a lot Can we that make people,

next be by We know how to show it I've got nice people Let's be by We know how to do it Hey, Scott, this is Chuck or Chris. I was calling about your issue with the kid going over your grass. I have a simple solution for you.

They have these little things. You can mortar your whole grass with it. It's a fence, but it only stands about maybe six inches tall. It's just kind of a nice little border you put around your grass. And then that should stop. I mean, it should tell the kid, hey, you're not supposed to be going to here because we're using this to protect our grass. I don't know.

Might help. Love the show, though. Hey, Frog Pamp, Kevin from Ann Arbor here. I'm calling about the guy that was standing really far away from the urinal when you got out of the Furiosa movie. And this story has me burning up. I am not happy about it. And I'd like to add a few other annoying things that people are doing in bathrooms these days.

I don't know what the problem is. We've got guys that walk out without washing their hands. This guy did not. So, yeah, like you said, good job for him for doing that. But I see that shit all the time. People don't wash your hands. I see people on their phone. They just got their phone out while they're taking a piss at the urinal.

I don't know why they had to do that. I see people, they put their bold hands on their hips. They take the power pose while they're pissing. Why? Not necessarily. It's a total brazen, disrespectful move. You've got, oh, oh, I don't know if you've ever experienced this one either. You got guys that when they're done peeing, they don't, they don't zip their pants back up.

You know what I mean? They just walk around with their, frankly, with their reader hanging out. for the rest of the day. There's all sorts. Humanity is fucked. Anyways, love the show, though. Sorry for cops from there at the end. Goodbye.

Hey, guys. I'm calling regarding a few episodes ago when you're talking about needing to shore up the poop of your dog when it gets a bit mushy or runny because that's a good lunchtime topic. Anyway, the thing we've done is we order on Amazon,

my wife and I for our two huskies who are sensitive as hell stomachs. uh we order pumpkin puree not the pumpkin pie just the puree and uh and then we mix that of two-thirds pumpkin puree to one-third cream cheese and we just mix that together and freeze it in silicone ice trays and the dogs love it because they love to lick frozen uh treats like that and their poop is freaking perfect it's gorgeous just gorgeous anyway i just thought i would i would mention that you don't want to give dogs a lot of sugar like pumpkin eye mix and all that stuff. You just want straight up pumpkin puree, a little bit of cream cheese, and you got yourself a great treat. That makes things work.

Anyway, see you later. For the morning stream. Hello, this is Rishi B. Hey, Scott. Hey, Brian. You were talking on Tuesday's episode about Scott's pest control issue with wasps. And it came up like, what's even the purpose of wasps? And I've often thought of this myself.

I'm not sure how many people there are out there trying to defend the wastes. But it brought to mind something I saw a couple years ago about an experiment in Florida where they were neutering mosquitoes as a way to pest control mosquitoes. And that just felt kind of icky to me. Like, I'm no PETA person, but, like, that just felt like a step too far. So I sent an email to the morning stream in Gmail about why you even hear was. And there's two links in there. It turns out mosquitoes, when they're not sucking our blood.

blood. They're pollinating flowers and such. And then wasps are the natural predator to bees and spiders and all the stuff that we hate. So it turns out there is a reason for these annoying little guys to be around. So I email the links. Thanks for everything that you guys do. Anyways, this show is part of the Frog Band Network. Get more at frogpants.com This is where I break all your teeth.