The Morning Stream - TMS 2664: The Bleau Veneau
Episode Date: June 24, 2024Buried in man chest hair. Donald Sutherland wasn't our fault. The Saddest Price. A remote Ibbott. Unzip the Hip. There Are TWO Stripes. Vexilogical Vexation. Apple divorce court. Sleeping Above The De...li. Hallin' Oates into court. The Other Elvis was in the Building. Forcing sounds out of his moving head. Agassi Odyssey. Cooch's Secret Origin. Superman has 6 fingers with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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M.S. B. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, June 24th, 2024. We got a couple 2024s in there.
24. 24. 24.
Perfect time for one of us to be in Las Vegas. Hello, Brian Abbott.
Oh, hello, Scott Johnson. I am in Las Vegas. As a matter of fact, for
celebrating the 24th of 2024. Yeah, it's a big day for
the world. No, not really. It's just an average day, I think.
Big day for, oh, I was going to say key for Sutherland, but I probably shouldn't
because the whole 24 thing. Yeah. I didn't think about that.
But he's probably got other things on his mind about, you know.
Probably. The good news is we did not mention Donald Sutherland lately.
on the show at all it's not our fault i don't think we did yeah not since backdraft i think it's been a while
guys so we can't be we can't be blamed no but he was great and we'll miss his fine talents and work
i don't know what the deal was with the newer prequel to the hunger games i'm assuming he wasn't
involved because it's like a major prequel i don't know correct and yeah you see uh you see a young
person playing him ah and that you get you do get the the snow not origin story but
You get an early snow.
Yeah, you get pre-snow.
Yeah, pre-snow.
Pre-snow.
Powder.
He's like powder.
It's not packed or icy.
That's right.
C-s-Sleet.
C-sleet.
Oh, my gosh.
Well, it's good to see you.
I guess you're having a good time.
You must be here in Vegas.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see.
So far, we've not done, you know, I was telling a couple of tadpoolers that we met up with at the concert last night.
Jay and Natalie.
Jay and Natalie from TMS Vegas.
Jay, they worked out here, live out here.
He works for Southwest, and she works for Venetian Palazzo area.
And, you know, they're saying, how are you doing this trip?
And I said, so far, whatever we want.
Like this, the concert last night was the only thing we really had on the schedule.
And it's kind of the vacation I need after coming here for TMS Vegas, where I've got to
go make sure this thing is going, oh, we got to, let's get everybody over.
over here. Hey, what's, you know, we got, um, has anybody talked to this group yet? We need to
make sure that they know we're coming now and that sort of thing. This is like, you know what,
let's go get some verbenas. Sounds great. We walk over there and get some verbenas or let's,
um, everything can be that. It can all be just random freaking, whatever you feel like doing in the
moment. That's a really great way to, to, to treat Vegas anyway, if you can do it, you know.
Yeah. Yeah. It's the, it's the, it is the perfect way to, to, to balance out the TM, the fun of,
fun and madness of TMS Vegas with this.
It's like, great, perfect.
Yeah, not too long after, but also it's at like a thousand degrees, so how are you handling
the heat there?
If you add up the amount of time that I have spent outside, and, you know, most
ride share pickups now are in garages or inside, you know, maybe not air conditioning, but
certainly not just outside in the heat.
I've probably spent over the last three days that I've been here.
15 minutes outside.
Oh, wow.
That's not much.
We walked, yeah, we were staying in Hara's and we're like, hey, let's go across the street and, you know, so one last goodbye to the mirage.
My third, my third goodbye to the mirage.
And so walked over there.
That was maybe, you know, five minutes outdoors from one to the other.
We walked over to the cosmopolitan.
But everything else has been like popping from one casino to another.
if we change casinos.
Oh, right, right.
And so you, wait, so let me get this straight.
You stayed in the, you stayed in Harrah's to start with.
You've moved casinos since.
Correct.
Yeah, Harrah's the first two nights because I had,
one of the people we were with, a guy named Kooch,
as a friend of Chris Browns,
his wife goes to Atlantic City all the time,
and they have a Caesar's property out there.
And she earns tons and tons and tons of points,
enough to where she and Kooch got their own
room and then Chris Brown and I shared
another room for free. So basically we had two
comped rooms. Nice. And
so hell yes, I'll stay
somewhere for free. Even Harris.
Even Harris. It's okay. It's okay.
It's better than Circus Circus or some
shit like that. You're good. It's better than Circus
circus. And so yesterday afternoon
I moved all my stuff down
here because I've got two comp free
comp nights here and
just paying resort
fees. And you know what? I will say this.
the bed
I think this is a redone
recently redone room
I'm only on the fourth floor though
so I don't have anything
where I overlook the inside
of the pyramid like I normally do
like way up high
fourth floor it's like okay I'm just above the deli
but
the bed
incredibly comfortable slept like a baby
last night and the shower has
enough water pressure that
I just sat in there for a while
like I was getting a massage
like, oh, this is great. I'm not, I'm not moving. Who owns, uh, who owns, um, Luxor?
Luxor is MGM properties. Okay. Because that, what I heard was MGM was doing a cross-the-board
renovation of everything that was old, older than a certain amount of time, they were doing
brand new rooms. So I'll, I'll bet we're finally seeing that, uh, improvement there.
Because for a while there, things were a little bit rough at the Luxor. It wasn't great.
They were. Yeah, it was a really poorly ventilated hotel, so it smelled smoky everywhere you
went in here and um and then they were just like you know old kind of gross carpeting and
weird wall stuff like wall um wallpaper or paint just looked really bad and bubbling in places
from humidity from bathroom steam stuff like that but this you know i can take a picture of this
room and and show it to you and you'd be like i would never guess this was at the lexor unless i included
this giant slanty window to my left.
Everything makes it look like you're living in an addict when you stay there.
It's just all.
It does.
We just pushed over Greg Brady's bed and I'm crashing up here.
Oh, my gosh.
That's a good reference.
So how was the concert?
You went last night, I guess.
Yeah, so concert was at the Fontaineauville, the brand new hotel opened in November.
Fancy.
It was fancy.
God, my God, that place is so nice.
And I think they call it the blue theater
Or blue venue or something like that
They put blue on everything
B-L-E-A-U
B-L-E-A-U
Bluh
And
I
It was like walking into a fancy
Like a town's fancy
Performing Arts Center complex
Like where you've got
You know where you go see a play
Or you go see an opera
Or that sort of thing
Like you know
Stairs
to the mezzanine and the orchestra box and that sort of thing.
Gorgeous, brand new theater.
And it was Elvis Costello and The Impostors,
which is basically Elvis Castell only attractions with the addition
of a new bass player and Charlie Sexton,
who is now as much a part of the Elvis Castello band as ever.
And then Daryl Hall was the headliner.
currently embroiled in a legal battle with oats.
Why is he headlining when you have Elvis Costello right there?
You know what I mean?
I don't know. And here's the funny thing.
Elvis Costello, I think, played for an hour and a half.
I didn't look at the time, but pretty much, you know, 17, 16, 17 songs,
chat lots of banter with the audience.
He is an incredible showman.
And then Daryl Hall comes out and does,
12 songs. I don't even know if he did all 12 songs last night because he was having problems with the sound guy to the point where, you know, he's up there, I can't hear a fucking thing. I guess I just, I just did kind of swear. I was like going to try and bleat myself out. And I tried to leave out the F sound, but it, but my pause just sounded like I said the word anyway. Yeah. You're in Vegas. It's what happened. Yeah, let it go. We're fine. Exactly. I can't hear the effing thing.
for these monitors. It all sounds
flat as a damn pancake. And he's
yelling and he's like, while he's playing
piano and across the stage
backstage
is the stage hand that he's looking
at talking to and he's gesturing
and like making hand signals to do
stuff. And it's
we're thinking he might have cut
his set short because he was
so ticked off. Oh, oh
you think he may have left early. Interesting.
He may have. I can't think of a
whole and out song that he
You know, of all their major ones that he didn't do, you know, Sarah Smile and Private Eyes, that, you know, that song in the 80s where they tried to warn us of the dangers of private eyes watching you.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they didn't want you to, you know, get caught with your pants down and know that there was somebody out there privately looking at you, yeah.
That song really could be updated.
It needs to be updated with any one of 100 conspiracy groups and organizations.
You know, the NSA, they're watching you, they see you, or whatever.
But what else?
You make my dreams come true, man-eater, rich girl.
So they have, do they both have the rights to just play their Hall and Oates catalog?
Yeah, because all of those songs are co-written and co-attributed to the two of them.
And that's where the legal battle is kind of not really hinging on,
it stems from is that Oates wanted to sell the rights to those songs, or maybe it's
Hull wanted to sell the rights. There was a battle with selling the catalog, the Hull and Oates
catalog, as you see a lot of bands doing these days. And then also something about which
songs Oates is allowed to perform without Hall. Oh. He has to be there for some of them. That's weird.
I think so. Yeah. It's a, I've already forgotten. I read the article about, you know,
I get the Hollywood report or whatever, and I read the article about it. And I understood at the time,
yeah, I've already forgotten all that. I can't remember what that.
Interesting. Yeah, I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find a breakdown of the dispute,
but I can't find it.
Like paraphrasing it or something. Yeah, nobody's got a real, like, succinct version of it. That's very weird.
Yeah. Well, that's good. So I've got a little audio.
on video of Daryl Hall
that you sent.
So let's play a little bit
for the chat.
This is right here, everybody.
It's a good little volume going here.
Okay, here we go.
You're only going
a night
but lead a heart rate of sight
there's nothing is due
to see it here before.
See you.
I got a thought about this.
Yeah.
Here's my thought about this.
He's not so much singing as he is forcing words out while he shakes his head to sound like he's got like, I can't explain it.
It's weird.
He's beeping, basically, is what he's doing.
He's like, like, there were times during the songs where basically Daryl Hall was, um, uh, if you want to be, who, uh, how you know, all you got.
Yeah, I'm definitely getting that vibe out of it.
That's a bummer.
It was really bizarre.
And he looks, right now, I thought it's possible he might be drunk.
I'm not 100% sure.
But he looks like one of the old Will Forte characters from SNL,
the guy who would show up at somebody's bar mitzvah or their wedding,
and take the microphone
and get really close
yes
I want to tell you a little story
about how I'm at the bride
and groom
Yeah
I forgot about that dude
I think by the way
I think your mic is like
Buried in manned chest hair
It is very it was yes
I was my flailing around
My flailing around
Covering my microphone better now
Yeah yeah way better now
So chat here's the
Here's the here's the Will Forte
photo that Brian also said
I'd forgotten this was even a thing,
but that is very much that vibe.
It's very much that vibe.
I mean, was it, okay, let me just ask you this.
So I heard a bunch of this too because we had a party here for Nick and B
and a bunch of their friends, kind of like a,
they never got to have like a real formal wedding type thing.
So they all came here and hung out and did a whole thing.
So the whole story about this kid I met who's got 950,000 followers on TikTok.
Oh, yeah, I saw you tweet about that.
It's just a very odd conversation with everybody.
But anyway, during it, we played a bunch of 80s music,
and for whatever reason, lots of hollow notes would pop up in these playlists.
Sure.
And I'm like, yeah, you know what?
I have a very specific memory of when that song was popular, or when this happened or whatever,
and it's a good vibe, and, you know, I enjoy it.
It's fun.
Did you find that to be the case with him, or was it weird or what?
It's cool sing those songs live and sing him with a full band.
He, even with the beeping, with his weird singing, there were times that he's, you know, the Daryl Hall voice came out.
And at the time, man, in the 80s, Darryl Hall, maybe one of the best voices in pop music at the time.
It's certainly one of the best male voices in pop music at the time.
One of the most recognizable, for sure.
You'd hear it and go, oh, pulling out.
incredible vocal control great range falsetto for a lot of it and then but still a great you know
every time you go away like he did that song last night too uh hollow note's the original
paul young the cover and um and he just sound he sounds amazing at times last night in the concert
and i think you know how sometimes when we get issues where there's like a half a second delay
in what we hear monitoring in our headphones
when we're singing or the rest of the band
that might be why
he didn't sound good at other times during the show
is that what he was hearing was really throwing him off
and you know you've even said
like if you have any delay in what you hear of your own voice monitoring
you tend to stall and slow things down
to where you sound drunk
yeah and uh maybe there might have been some of that might be some of that the fact that
yeah the fact that he was complaining to the sound dude probably lends yeah you know credence to
that so boy somebody and there you know if you're a sound engineer and you're looking for a job
i'm guessing there's an opening on the uh darrell hall tour right now i think you can probably
probably get a job yeah um but uh yeah jane seen jane natalie last night uh hanging out with barry we're
We're going to go do trivia with James and Svet tonight.
We're going to go have noodles for lunch with Mitzoula today.
Maybe even go check out the Pinball Hall of Fame.
Nothing wrong with that?
I've been there in a while.
Sure.
Didn't get to go out there when we were here for TMS Vegas.
Yeah, just been a really good trip so far.
That's great.
Yeah, it maybe hasn't been so great.
But, again, you know, you take what you expect to, you take what you expect not to bring back when you bring cash for Vegas.
Yeah, plus you've got another day and a half to fix that, you know?
Maybe you'll...
Yes.
Maybe you'll bake bank.
Or lose more.
Yeah, one of the two.
One of those two things are happening, and if the odds are any indication, perhaps the form or not the latter.
Exactly.
Actually, what's been good for me is betting on Edmonton in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
So I got one last bet I'm going to put on Edmonton tonight to win it all.
I think they got it.
I think so, too.
What an incredible rally to come back.
from a 3-0, they could have lost everything in game four,
and they've rallied back with games 4, 5, and 6.
And so I'm hoping their momentum carries them through to the Stanley Cup.
Sorry, Florida.
Yeah, sorry.
You guys are fine.
We don't not like you in Florida, all right.
But a certain collection of Florida men will probably not win.
Brian, I got a very, very funny.
At least I think this story's funny to tell you real quick before we get.
out of the way in here. This is so funny to me. This is just last night. Last night, me, Kim, Kim, Kim, I see, me, Kim, Carter, and Alicia. All the Johnsons. Her last name is Johnson, Carter's friend, Alicia Johnson. Anyway, we all get in the car and we're like, you know what we're going to do? We're going to go get dipped cones.
Oh, yeah. Like we used to do when they were kids. Like Carter, remember this when you were like five? We get you a dip cone. And she's like, yeah, let's do it. So we get in the car and we go to get dip cones. And we're getting the drive up. And we're getting the drive up.
And this place is called Arctic Circle.
And if you're a local, you'll know what that is.
If you, if you, I think there may be regional.
I don't know.
That's right.
Usually paired with a green burrito place, right?
Aren't they, isn't it usually the same building room?
I think you have something else that's usually the two together.
Maybe. Maybe they are in some places.
I don't know.
Now that you say it, you might be right.
I usually see them alone.
But the one, and so the one we went to was alone.
And they have like soft serve twist cones, all this kind of stuff and burgers and all that.
But we just go for the cone.
So we went in there.
and we get in line, or, you know, in the drive-up there.
And it's one of those drive-outs where I hear a guy's voice who says,
Welcome to Bram-R-R-R-R-D, don't forget the bad assur-sha, makes you order when you're ready.
And then immediately a girl goes, hi, order when you're ready.
Right, yes.
They push a little button that's a recording.
Yeah.
Which always weirds me out.
But anyway, that's all fine.
Kim says, yeah, just a second.
And then she asks everybody what we're doing them, and we all decide.
and she goes, okay, I'm looking for this, this and this, and this.
And the girl goes, okay, is there anything else?
And then she goes, no, we're good.
And she goes, 9-11, like that.
Oh, oh, for a price.
For a price.
For a price.
But our first thought, of course, is what your first thought was, was like this sad retelling
of one of the most memorable moments in American history, 9-11, right?
Oh, yeah.
So we pull up to the thing, and it gets better because I'm just, I'm laughing about it.
I'm like, oh, man, what a sad, you know, never forget all this stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
And we get up to the window.
She opens the window and she starts handing out the ice cream.
Or no, before she does that, she goes, she does again, she goes, and in the saddest voice, she goes, 9-11 again.
And Kim starts to hand her cash, and she goes, she goes, oh, wait, you had the three cones, right?
The four cones, whatever, how many are there?
Four? She goes, you have the four cones, right?
And she goes, yeah, she goes, 9-11.
Again.
And so, we're all trying not to laugh, you know, like idiots.
Yeah.
But we get the whole thing done and leave and then laugh from the next 10 minutes about this weird exchange.
Like, it was, I can't explain what the deal was.
I don't know why she was saying 9-11 so sad.
Maybe she's in on the joke and she's actually doing that on purpose.
She never showed an outward appearance of it, though.
She never cracked.
She never broke.
She just looks sad.
So here's what, I mean, here's what I'd be tempted to do is go back around through the
drive-thru and just order some fries and see if she says, 318.
Yeah, that's it.
That's what we should have done.
You know what?
I'm going to find her again.
I'm going to do this.
Even though I've screwed up the experiment because it's a different day.
Maybe she's in a better mood.
I screwed it up.
But you were absolutely correct.
and Carter would eat in those fries.
She likes fries.
We could have gone back through and said, yeah, we'd like order her fries and she would have gone 311.
Or maybe she would have went, Amber is the color of your energy.
That's right, exactly.
But anyway, it was a original.
You get to come original.
It was such a riot.
I was like, when we got done, I went, this order was her 311.
You know, we just kept having these jokes.
And I know it's a horrible national tragedy, but we couldn't help laugh, okay?
All right
Also we got a little closer to the mystery
This is not about Brian's mystery girl
We're back to an old mystery
The carbonated meat mystery
I got a thread from somebody
Who has a theory
And this is the closest we've gotten
Because this sounds close
This thing reads like this
The person says their husband made it once
But the image
I'm gonna put it up on
Yeah this is gross
The deal
It is sound gross right
But I think this may have been what I had
And so I find
Really? Okay.
This might have been it.
But it's called beef fizz.
Chad, I'll pull it up here so you can see it.
Oops, that's way too big.
Let's scroll down.
Okay, so beef fizz is two cans condensed beef broth,
one cup chill, sorry, chill ginger ale,
two tablespoons lemon juice.
You combine the ingredients and pour over ice in a glass.
Six-eight serving is what it'll do.
That may be what I had.
Now, I thought there was like a solidness to the beef.
Yeah, you might have had just...
It may have just been this, you know, beef, beef-flavored fizz or something.
Fizzy beef juice.
It does sound gross.
Yeah.
Anyway, this is, I just felt like, you know, we're making progress, and I would share the progress with the listeners.
Whatever gets us closer to a resolution on that while we hopefully get a, well, while I work on getting a resolution to,
to the mystery girl.
I had been watching Silicon Valley.
I'm halfway through season two.
My God, I had forgotten how much I love this show.
The actors that they have for this thing,
obviously you've got, and I'm not going to remember anybody's name,
Thomas Middletch and Camille Nanjani and Star, Martin Star,
fantastic.
The dude from Deadpool, who plays...
His buddy, the bartender, buddy of his, kind of has a Jason Lee vibe to him, but he's not Jason Lee.
Isn't that, that's not Middle Ditch.
That's the other guy.
That's the guy that Deadpool hates now.
T.J. Miller.
T.J. Miller.
That's the one that, what's his name, won't work with anymore.
He can't stand him.
Ryan Reynolds won't work with him anymore?
Yeah, I don't even know if he's in the new movie or not.
I can't remember, but I saw an interview about it, and he's, they, apparently that was like an ugly deal.
They hated each other's freaking guy.
Wow.
Oh, crazy.
Yeah, which is hilarious because I think they have great chemistry in those movies.
Yeah, no kidding.
Oh, apparently he's from Denver, T.J. Miller, went to East High School, huh?
Oh, nice.
Little homegrown, maybe a dick, but homegrown, you know?
Apparently, yeah, apparently maybe a dick.
I did not know that.
Well, I mean, maybe it was a joint dickery.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Well, that's cool.
And that's, I was going to say something about that.
I forgot what it was.
Oh, I've never watched that series in full.
So I appreciate the reminder.
I need to watch it.
Yeah, you need to watch that.
I think it might, well, obviously,
there's something else that I want to recommend this week
as soon as the final episode comes out Tuesday,
but Silicon Valley might be a future recommendal of mine
because it's really, really good.
Nice.
Well, I'll tell you what else is good,
bringing Dunaway in here and playing a game.
That's right.
Yep, we're going to do it.
We got to pull him in.
Oh, for some reason the thing's weird again.
says yeah the boxes aren't showing for me like usual just says our names in the exit button
oh I need to reload again that's weird if I leave this thing sitting too long apparently
oh it times out or something yeah exactly should be should be really good excellent let's find
out if done away can handle it Brian Dunaway joins us all the way from South Carolina hello Brian
How are you? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. How's I going?
Real good, man. How are you?
Oh, you sound remote, Ibit.
I am remote. I am. I'm distant and remote, Brian.
My wife was right.
Did you finally get kicked out at the Bayesian?
I am. I'm at the sad single Bachelor Hotel.
I love it. He's in Vegas and he is living it up, man. He's having a happy.
That's right.
That's right.
The whole reason we did like six episodes of film sac back to back.
Man, I can't be putting threads of information together like...
Yeah, what are you?
Keeping things in my head.
Yeah, what are you supposed to be a smart guy or something?
Gee, get out of here.
I still show the things...
Oh, maybe I have to reset it.
Oh, yeah, you refresh because it should be good now.
Okay.
It's fresh.
It's so fresh.
Oh, yeah, it did work.
Okay, we're good.
Hey, everybody.
We're going to play a game.
Brian, why don't you explain?
how this works and who we're playing for and that sort of stuff?
Well, sure. Welcome to the morning half asses, a tribute game where I'm actually going to be giving
the two of you the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers.
Three of which are correct and three like that sound guy at the fountain blue are incorrect.
Depending on how confident you feel with the category, you can provide one, two or three guesses.
But if you get any wrong, you get zero points for that round.
You get one right gets you a point, two right gets you three points, and three right gets you five points.
We're going to add up all the points after three rounds.
The winner is going to win a prize for their contestant.
And who are these contestants you may ask?
Well, I will tell you, Scott, you're going to be playing for Julia in Cincinnati.
Oh, nice.
Julia, hi, Julia from Cincinnati.
I hope I win for you today.
And Brian, you're going to be playing for Mike, Geek Dadio in Somerset, New Jersey.
Yes, oh, hi, geekaddeo, and I hope I win for you today.
Oh, very good.
And we'll talk about what the winning prizes are after we get to our game here.
Once again, I'm going to be giving you a category and six answers.
Let's start with this first one, because I know how much you love sports.
So we're just going to, let's rip this Band-Aid off quick and get it out of the way.
All right.
Your question number one, tennis players who won a career grand slam in singles play.
So, you know, the Career Grand Slam, where they win all four, I think it's all four of the major competitions, the opens and the Wimbledon and all that.
Andre Agassi, Monica Seles, Serena Williams, Maria Sharapova, Pete Sampras, and Yvonne Lendell are your choices.
Pick three of those.
I picked three, but only the names that I've actually heard before.
These other people are kind of, eh.
Makes me think one of those weird.
See, I only did too, because I am sure one of the third choices should be one of the weird names, and I just don't know who.
Did you just unzip your hip pouch?
I just unzipped my, my, what should we call it?
Your biggest wallet.
It's my glasses.
My purse.
Yeah, your merce.
I got you.
Nice.
So it's definitely not the hip pouch you keep on their front side when you keep the wallet in and make sure that you can reach in there.
No.
That's right.
No, it's definitely not.
But boy, good to know, this microphone is so good at picking that stuff up.
Oh, it picks up everything.
All the farts I've heard already, it's amazing.
Oh, shoot.
shoot I was hoping I could get away with those
alright well look at this you guys
both you guys both
picked Andre Agassi or Agassi
Augusti Augusti
Andre Agassi
Augusti Agusly I guessly
is correct and
Andre Agassi did win the career
grand slam Serena
Williams you guys both also chose
Serena William oh shit
and Scott only picked two of it
shit
Serena Williams also
won the career grand slam
and singles play so
So far, so good for both of you.
Brian, you additionally chose Maria Sharpova.
Right.
I am happy to say that.
Oh, yeah.
Brian gets a five on that one.
Is it just because you're,
are you just saying you didn't recognize Monica Seles, Pete Sampras,
for Yvonne Lindel's names?
That's the only name I didn't know was Maria Sharpova.
I didn't know her name.
So Monica Seles, I was like, when you said it,
it, when you said, I was like, oh, I know that name.
When I read it, I was like, I don't know how that is.
And also,
also Pete Sampras as well.
I was like, what is that? Pete Samprazz.
Who is that? I don't know that is.
Wow, you got lucky, dude.
You really did.
You were smart not to pick the three names that begin and end with the same letter.
So, well done.
Did you do that?
No, okay.
I didn't do that intentionally.
All right, let's get to.
Question number two, scouts in a little bit of a doubt.
deficit here, scores five to three going into question two, which I don't think I've ever seen
before.
Number two, countries with flags consisting of two horizontal stripes.
So which of these countries has a flag that has two horizontal stripes?
Gotcha, not three.
So, like, you know, I know the ones, I know you can say, well, if it's got seven stripes,
doesn't that mean it also has two stripes, Brian?
But no.
That's an argumentative.
Yeah, I do. Just two stripes, basically, is what we're looking for here. Your choices are Poland, Belgium, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand, and Malaysia.
Oh, my gosh. I think I know at least two of these again, but I got to play hard here.
I filled on Flag Day.
What's my third? Maybe do... I don't know. I got to go for it. I don't know. I don't know.
I'm just a rack of my brain trying to remember.
All right.
You both settled on Poland.
Poland has a white horizontal stripe and a red horizontal stripe.
Very good.
Thank you.
That was the only one I think I could even envision.
All the rest of them are like dots and blurs to my head.
Right.
Scott, you also chose Ukraine.
And I appreciate the fact that you've got the memory of this year
and last year where everything had that yellow and blue.
horizontal strikes are very good
absolutely Ukraine
also correct yeah
and you almost stayed there
and then you chose
Belgium perfect
which has three vertical stripes
black yellow and red oh vertical
damn it the other one is
you were looking at it sideways
Indonesia basically is the Poland flag upside down
it's red on top white on the bottom
Thailand has
red white blue white red
so five stripes and then Malaysia
very similar to the U.S. flag with a bunch
of red and white stripes and then a blue
rectangle in the corner, but
theirs has a moon and a star in it.
Very American. That's a busy
flag. Yeah, Malaysia's is a busy flag.
Who's that flag that looks, if you do the wrong
emoticon, it looks like an American flag,
but it's not, it's like Armenian or
some other thing like that.
But anyway, what you do is you watch out for social
media accounts that post a bunch of flags
and act like they're like super patriotic, but then
you find out later they did the little
Armenian flag or some of the
He accidentally chose the Armenian flag
Yeah, love that true, true patriots Brian
That's right, true patriots
I feel like I need to study flags now
I feel quite the deficit
Yeah, whatever, you're three points ahead, butthole
You're gonna kill me here today
I don't know, we still got one more
Still got one more, let's get to it
And let's look at your history
History and Inventions
Which of these inventions were patented
Before 1900
So we've got air conditioning, neon lights
stainless steel ballpoint pen dishwasher and machine gun three of those were patented before
1900 three of them were patented after holy shit i know these all feel right and wrong all at the same
time they totally do my brain is going oh my gosh uh well i think i know two but if to me for me to
even compete here. I got to go three at the least. I don't think I can win, can I?
I mean, if you get two right, you tie if Brian gets any wrong.
Oh, that's true. That's true. You have a good chance.
All right, I'm locked in with these. Okay. And I did not bring a tiebreaker. So let's hope I don't need it.
Yeah, we'll find out if Scott gave me its close to tie breaking.
I was saying it wouldn't lock in. I was getting nervous. Oh, there we go. Okay. All right,
Brian locked in. You guys both, both like gravitated right to a machine gun right away.
way, 1884, the machine gun, yeah, pre-1900, very good.
Yeah, I figured, I'd be around for a while of people walking around with Tommy guns during
the 20s, right?
Yeah, but I always assume that in the old westerns where they pull the tarp off the back
of a wagon, and there's a, I assume that's what that is, but I don't think so, yeah.
Yeah.
Scott, you also said stainless steel as your second choice.
stainless steel patented in
1930
Oh shit
Yeah
dishwasher
I'm sorry 1887
Ballpoint Penn
1888
Air conditioning
1902 neon lights
1910 and stainless steel
1913 so congratulations
to Brian Donaway
I should have gone hard on that
I saw dishwasher in ballpoint pen
and thought
Here's how my brain worked
I thought those sounded right
but then I thought
Brian never stacks three in a column
so that's my
that's the mistake I made
is I had a pattern problem
I thought there's no way he'd do that
so it must be one on the other side
at least one of them
freaking yeah
sometimes the cards I yet
have them stacked on a column
bastard all right
done away you won
how do you feel how you feel about that
are you gonna be cocky about it all weekend
and just ruin my life
no no not at all
I mean because you beat me last week
it felt good
It felt good to be back on top.
All right.
Well, Brian, Mike Geek Daddy on Somerset, New Jersey,
is going to be getting a copy on Steam, courtesy of Nighttime Visions.
He's going to be getting Guidebook of Babel and Knights of Honor to Sovereign, Sovereign, I guess is what just what's called.
Sovereign, sovereign.
Sovereign, sovereign.
But Julian Cincinnati, you're getting a copy of Stray gods on Steam.
So everybody going home a winner.
Yeah, stray gods.
Watch out for them.
Yeah, watch out for those straight gods.
Yeah, I feel like I kind of gave her the best of the three games.
But anyway, that's what it's got always this.
Yeah, that's what I say.
I'll tell you what else I say.
On Wednesday, you'll be joining us again.
I missed it last week because of the holiday, but you'll be back.
And we'll compete once again with a live listener for another edition of the Tad Pooley feud.
So we look forward to that.
Brian will be home by then as well.
I will.
Yeah.
Done away, is there anything you'd like to say in your offense or defense today before you leave?
Yeah, MicroCenter, get with it, buddy.
You can't just abandon products just because you get bored.
Oh, that Atari fight stick thing.
Is that the deal?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm bummed about that, too.
I always wanted one, and if they would have stuck with it longer, I'd have one.
But I missed the window, the little tiny window.
Little tiny windows.
You can't say through all fogged up.
Are you trying to get a repair or something, or what's the deal?
I was actually, it was this morning to, yeah, I was.
It comes with an Atari
SD card
And my SD card is
Defunct, it's broke
Which SD cards happen
And so I'm like, oh, can I get
You know, can I get another one?
Can I get some kind of support?
Can I download it again?
Nope.
Nothing.
They haven't responded to anything since like 2022.
Well, they're poops.
I say, I say they're poops.
Well, I feel bad about that,
but also I feel really good about today's performance.
You've really shown us the kind of man you are.
No.
You.
There it is, Chad.
That's the fight stick.
That thing is cool.
And if you look in the center of that Atari logo, that's a trackball.
So you could play like proper missile command and centipede and all that shit.
Oh, very cool.
Wow.
This thing was awesome.
And they just disappeared.
It was like a hot second and they went away.
Oh, that was you see.
Did you put that in our chat?
But that's all right.
I'll give it to you.
You ready for this?
Yeah, I want to see this thing.
Yeah.
thing right here.
Show me what I missed
by Microsenter being Dix.
There it is. Look at that thing.
Oh, look at that.
Yeah, so you got two player.
You got all the buttons you need
for anything, fighting games,
not even just Atari games.
And then you got a ball right in the center.
Oh, my gosh.
No, no Tempest.
Oh, Tempest knob.
They had a model with a Tempest knob as well.
I had that one.
And that's just one of those beanbaggy ones on the bottom.
That one I've got.
Right.
I think that's right.
Yeah, anyway.
It's still a bummer.
They should have, I don't know what the deal was.
Probably just the license ran out and they came up.
Maybe, yeah.
I don't know.
Still, still a bummer, though.
A bummer.
I agree, a bummer.
Let's do some other bummer things like some news.
It's not really a bummer, but we'll do it.
It's time to do the news, and it's brought to you by.
Brought you by, who is the resident performer at Caesar's Palace from 1967 to 2019?
So the same, same person, right?
from all those years?
Yep, all those years straight.
That's crazy.
Right before the pandemic, he bailed, and I will tell you it is a he.
Yeah, I figured it was a he.
I have a guess.
I'm going to work my way up there, but I mean, we've had folks like Elton John, who was there for a little while,
and Celine Dion, and Jerry Seinfeld had a thing there for a while.
I'm going to guess it is our old friend, Wayne Newton, is the resident performer.
Let's see if you're correct about your answer.
You say Wayne Newton.
Is that right?
I say Wayne Newton.
That is correct.
Yeah.
Nicely done.
Thanks, Vegas vacation.
Yeah.
He looks very different now because his plastic surgery is copious.
It is very copious, yeah.
It's too much.
Too much.
Yeah.
All right, here's a fun one.
This is a little tech adjacent story.
Cheating husband sues Apple after wife discovered deleted messages sent to sex workers.
Oh.
Oh, no.
I feel like this might be a guy
is used to shoving his problems off onto other people
a little bit. Exactly. Yeah, I think maybe
the problem isn't his phone.
He says here, or it says here, Apple is
being sued by this guy.
The unfaithful husband, who has not been
named, but is reportedly a middle-aged man from
England. Take that, UK.
It ain't us this time.
Claims Apple's, I mean,
infidelity, I suppose, is an international.
It's international, yeah.
It's everywhere. It's everywhere you look.
It says here claims Apple's lack of transparency over deleted messages led to his wife filing for divorce.
He told the times he had turned to prostitutes in the final years of his marriage and would contact them through the I message app on his phone before deleting the text.
But the messages were eventually discovered by his wife on the family IMac computer along with messages going back several years he believed to be wiped.
Well, yeah, because they mirror them when it's your account, dumbass.
Exactly, yes.
That's the point.
It's a hole in the cloud and yeah.
Yeah, it's a feature, not a bug.
We actually want it there.
How else, this stuff Brian sent me last night.
Huge pain in the ass if I couldn't just pull it up.
Right, exactly.
It's like, oh, well, I've only got this on my phone.
So if I want to show this on the stream, I have to hold my phone up to the camera.
It's like, no, you know, it's got, you've got, what they call it, not handoff, but basically, yeah, everything is stored in parity.
and all of your devices.
Yeah.
And unfortunately for him,
not deleted in parody.
His quote is this.
If you are told the message is deleted,
you are entitled to believe it is deleted.
Okay.
He says it's all quite painful and quite raw still.
Tell us more about your sex life.
Yeah.
It was a very brutal way of finding out for my wife, he says.
My thoughts are if I had been able to talk to her rationally,
and she had not had such a brutal realization of it,
I might still be married.
Oh, you think?
Jeez.
You think?
Maybe, I don't know.
Maybe if you wouldn't have gone to sex workers, maybe that would have solved the problem, too.
I don't know.
I feel like not cheating on your spouse might have been the trick, you know?
I'm no expert, but the painful and raw, maybe I'm not feeling so bad for you.
You know, maybe probably more painful and more raw for your wife than it is this betrayal of Apple.
to you sir yeah and he says he added this divorce is an extremely or extraordinarily stressful process
and you have children and family dynamics it's my opinion it's all because apple told me my
messages were deleted and they weren't oh yeah it yeah it's all because apple
give me a break dude that's lame that's like saying that's like blaming your car because it got
you to the hotel where you met the hooker it's like stop it yeah in the in the word in the
The words of Erlick on the Silicon Valley, this guy is a chode-guzzling fart toilet.
There you go.
Oh, that is some sweet Mike Judge.
It really is, yeah.
And it doesn't have, it's not really the word fart, but I'm substituting.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Turns out, there's a study.
We should have saved this for Bobby.
Maybe he'll have a comment on it next week.
But monkeys got along better after a hurricane.
They were brought together more after an extraordinary.
Unordinarily harmful hurricane went ripping through their habitat, and as a result, they're much tighter now, these guys.
These are macaque monkeys, who got on better with others in their social groups after this devastating hurricane, according to researchers.
They studied the impacts of hurricanes on populations of Rias macaques on the island of Puerto Rico, or just off of Puerto Rico, I should say.
Temperatures are often around 40 Celsius, so shade is precious as a resource for the macaques, since tree cover is.
still far from below
hurricane, pre-hurricane levels.
McCacks who are also known for being
an aggressive and competitive
have become more tolerant of one another
to access the more scarce shade
as the research sources become smaller.
I don't know, maybe this supports my
anti-walking dead theory.
You know what I mean?
Like if we, the more advanced ape,
we start running out of resources,
we either die trying to score them all
or we combine our efforts
to get the precious resources
and survive, you know?
I think, I think, uh, if we look back at, at the pandemic and how when things first
initially started, and sure there were the, the people, you know, arguing about vaccines
and arguing about face masks and stuff like that, but for, for a while there, there was like
a, a camaraderie that we all had, even after, even after 9-11, you know, the, uh,
9-11, 9-11, sides, people who'd normally be fighting were like, you know what,
We've all gotten through this together where we're one united America, and it just didn't last long.
I think after a little while, a sect of these macaquec monkeys is going to be posting on Facebook that the hurricane was caused by climate change.
And then the other half of the monkeys are going to be arguing that that that's not real, that it was an inside job by the mainstream media to get them into trees.
The macaques should watch out because they've got to check.
In any case, it's just going to, it's just, you know, it's just going to come.
The one advantage they have that we don't have, we have an active system of reporting,
press, coverage media, all that.
Right.
That's where we see the switch.
That's where things turn for people.
Yeah, in my personal life, I didn't see the switch at all.
All the good people I knew were still good people.
All the people adhering to social distancing or doing their best to protect each other,
all that stuff continued
but all we heard about
were all the dicks
so I still maintain
the good people or the good people
we just hear more about it because that's just
the society we live in now
the bad people are usually louder
yeah and the macaques don't have this problem
so hopefully they get their shit together
and it's all good you know
I hope that you're I hope that A you're right
but I hope B we never see it
but see a situation like
like that where we all kind of have
you know, no way of communicating with each other other than people getting messages to the
next village over by running over there and trying to avoid zombies.
But listen, hey, I hope you're right, but I hope we never find out.
Yeah, Brian subscribes to my newsletter, but would prefer not to have it happen at all when I understand.
Exactly, exactly.
That'll do it for today's news.
That's all the time she wrote for us to do it in.
So we're going to come back in a minute after a song, and we're going to talk to Sleven.
Sleven Schleiber.
Sleven Schuyker.
It's going to be here to talk about some of the nerdy shit
happening over on major spoilers.
So stick around for that while Brian tells us
what song we're playing today.
Yeah, oh, this is some good stuff.
So you're familiar with the band Goldfrapp?
Maybe I hope.
It's familiar.
Yeah, electronic-e music and really cool
instrumentals.
The co-creator of the band Goldfrapp,
a guy named Will Gregory, has formed
another band called the Will Gregory Mogue Ensemble, M-O-O-O-G ensemble.
And their debut album, Heat Ray, the Archimedes Project, just came out this last weekend on Mute,
mute, mute records. And this actually, this album was inspired by Archimedes' work,
and this was all performed on analog synths with the BBC National Orchestra of Wales.
Really, really cool stuff. This is just a taste of it. You're going to get a little bit of a little bit
this right now. The song is called buoyancy theory. And I guess it's just about water displacement and
measuring and stuff like that in audio form. But here are the Will Gregory Moog ensemble and
buoyancy theory.
The
I'm going to be able to be.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be.
And so.
And so,
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be.
...withal...
....butt...
...with...
...and...
...with...
...this...
...and...
...so...
...you...
...a...
...you...
...that...
... ...that...
...the...
The
POMPEOES-BURGY-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR-BOR.
I'm going to be able to be.
And so on the
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be
I'm going to be.
I'm going to
I don't know.
I'm going to be able to be.
And so you're going to be.
We're going to be able to go to the
What did medieval English sound like?
Or father that art in haven us hallowed by the nama.
Huss, connect.
Wait a second.
Oh, yeah, man.
This is a good summer music right here.
It really is.
Brian,
tell me who that was again
so I can go track it down
and hear more of it.
Damn right.
It's the Will Gregory Mogue ensemble,
and that was a song called Boyancy Theory.
The whole album is really, really good.
Great stuff to just put on the background,
put it on the background while you're doing something else
and have a really chill time doing it.
it. It's chill. It's down-tempo chill.
I like that stuff, a lot.
Yeah, yeah. I bet I'll go and find them
and go, oh, I guess I have heard them and I just forgot
about it their name or whatever.
Goldfrap, yeah, you have. And I want to say
if it's who I'm thinking
of, they did an album with Robin, R-O-B-Y-N,
the, oh, I think she's, she's Swedish.
I'm pretty sure she's Swedish.
Oh, the one that people
co-lab with her all the time. She's amazing.
She is really, really good.
And I think Goldfrapp did an album with her.
Oh, she's so good, dude.
Yeah.
Now you're making, you're making, I know what my playlist is today.
Oh, you know what I'm thinking of?
I'm thinking of.
Oh.
Not, not, uh, who am I thinking of?
Because maybe it's the same person.
There's a lady.
There's a girl.
There's a woman who gets, who gets co-abbed all the time with different electronic acts.
Yeah.
And she's extremely, you hear it and you immediately know, oh, that's that voice again.
And it's perfect for this.
EDM stuff. It's like, I don't know why, but she has the perfect voice for it.
That could be, well, it could be Allison Goldfrapp, who's, you know, the other member of Goldfrapp.
Or it could be Susan Sondfer, I think, is her name.
I don't know. I might be getting the wrong first name.
I look it up. I do love that stuff, though. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what else I love. I love this stuff right here.
And now welcome Stephen to the show. He's a huge freaking nerd. Dalla, Dalla bills, y'all.
He is a huge freaking nerd. Stephen, welcome.
to the program. How the heck are you, man? Good morning, Scott. Good morning, Brian. I am doing
fine. Good morning. Well, good. We're doing finer because you're here. That's right.
Thank you. You make every Monday better. That's right. How was your, are you guys hot there now?
It's probably hot. It was 100, some, 103 yesterday. I think it's supposed to be 106 with the heat
index of 110 today. Okay. So we're under a heat advisory until tomorrow sometime. Yeah, I get the
excessive heat warning a lot now um last couple of days let's see if we have one today yeah excessive
heat warning uh these conditions are expected to last until 11 p.m. geez louises all right well
wow get out the get out the uh we call it the redneck pool the little uh foot pool and uh get some
water in there put your feet in there and uh you know while away the hours like a redneck hey step
it's good to have you here let's talk about some major spoiler stuff i feel like it's been too
long. And we'll start with me having my notes in front of me. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about this
Blade movie. I'm convinced more and more, as more and more time goes on, I am convinced we're just
not going to get the damn thing. Yeah, I think you're probably right. The word came out last week
that Jan Damange, I guess is how you say the person's name, has dropped out as the director
of the Blade movie. This is the second time they've lost a director. I think it's like the third
writing group that they've had on here. And my understanding is that,
that who's playing blade, Maharshala Ali is getting more and more frustrated because he wants to be in the movie and get the movie done, but there's no movement on this thing.
And Marvel at this point has not yet moved the release date for the movie.
So who knows what's going on?
I have a feeling it's going to quietly go away just like Victor timely did.
That's what I was going to ask.
Do we have another MCU movie or even, I don't know.
we have DC projects like this because they canceled Batgirl and yeah the
back girl thing is a good example of that they didn't really cancel bad girl as much as
they set it on fire so they could take a tag oh that's true that's a little bit different
that's true you get anywhere near some Zazloff business and and it's total Zasloff
Steven like has claws come out like Wolverine when that guy gets mentioned you do not like that
man I do not like him at all I mean for a while we were we were going to get a we're going to
get a squirrel girl cartoon there was going to be a few things that that we're going to be on uh that
we're going to come out around the time that that patten oswald modoc thing came out and one of them
was going to be like a squirrel girl cartoon there was going to be another one that was a damage
control i think or or some some offset group and uh so you know i don't obviously nothing that
has been in the works as long as blade seems to have been because we got don't forget we got a
tease for Blade in Eternals
with the
with what's his face
John Snow
who was going to be
our Black Knight
and found the
blade found Blades
blade
his katana
that's right
yeah
so when
when and if they get this done
I just can't imagine
you think it's a holdup
because that thing has to be
rated R and they're still
kind of they're new to that water
that's that is some of the
things that people are saying is they're like
oh no
No, Marvel is owned by Disney, so therefore we have to keep everything PG, PG-13 at the most,
and we can't have something that's going to have beheadings and blood and all that stuff
because it'll get an R rating and that's not good for our image.
And it's at this point, I think that that, honestly, I don't think the rating system means as much today as it used to.
Certainly, you know, if, you know, if Blade comes out and had a PG rating, it's full of blood and guts and violence,
parents are going to, you know, raise
certain groups of parents are going to go
absolute crazy on this.
Yeah. But I think another group
of people are just like, no, this is
not that big of a deal anymore. And the fact that
the ratings board is not consistent
in how they rate things is
also another, another big tell.
Well, if they're worried about that, I got bad news for them
about Deadpool 3.
I think that's what they're waiting on, right?
Yeah. What do they freaking expect? It's going to be, I guess,
you know what? That's maybe a big trick here.
If that thing comes out, does really well as expected and is now under the Disney umbrella, part of the MCU proper, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff, maybe that opens the gates to finally figuring out what the frick you're going to do with Blade.
And they need to start with saying, what is this movie?
Is it going to be, because it shouldn't be, all right, yeah, it's going to be another origin story, which Marvel has been so great about churning out lately.
It needs to be like, all right, well, yeah, we are going to introduce the character Blade, but it needs to be a,
a vampire hunt story or
you know cleaning up the streets story kind of thing
like a um as opposed to
we're entry we're here's the formula we
introduce a character and then they get their powers
and then they real they hate their powers but then they turn around and really
you know are glad they have them and use them for good and that sort of thing
it's they need to it's what made mcU so good in the beginning was you got a
heist movie you got a political thriller that just happened to feature superheroes a space
fantasy, they need
to do the same thing. I think they've lost their way
a little bit with the
things, which I think
are okay with things like the marvels and
eternals and stuff like that
that doesn't go beyond
the introduce a character
formula of here's
our people and now they don't like their
powers but now they do and they're going to use them for good
and they almost lose but then they come back at the end kind of thing.
You're right, Brian, in that
all of these Marvel movies are
a something plus superhero
movies. It's a World War II movie. It's a
space adventure movie, fantasy movie. Because
that's kind of, I think, what Blade
really needs to lean into is
this is a horror movie
that has a person with superpowers
in this case, the Day Walker Blade.
So the question is, since
they're now looking for a director,
who would you guys pick as a director?
If we say that this is a
horror movie within our rating, who would
you pick to direct this
Blade movie? When we were talking
about it last week, I think I said Antoine
Fuqua, or a couple weeks ago I said
Antoine Fuqua, and I think it would be
great, but I think if you're really
leaning into the horror and you want some sort of
creepy simmering horror, then maybe
a Jordan Peel would be
a really good choice. Oh, he's a great.
You know what? I was prepared to come up with an alternative because I was
like, well, whatever Brian says will be good, but I'm sure
I can think, and no, that's it. He'd be
great. He feels like he'd be a fan.
He feels like a guy that reads these
comics he's a black director with a very specific black perspective dude that's a great idea
somebody called jordan peel wake that guy up i'm sure he's not doing anything he's just
relaxing right now i was going to go with either mike flanagan or uh scott dickerson
flanagan be okay a little too cerebral maybe like i you're gonna need some you're gonna need
some action really hardcore action you're going to need some choreography not that he can't
do that but he's not known for that you know so maybe maybe though i love him yeah i like that i like
that choice too yeah he's doing a new uh and was the other one so yeah he's doing the new um oh
you know maybe this guy that's it's also now at disney property whether we'd like it or not um
and the new alien movie director guy it seems like he's got the chops for stuff like this he could
do it yeah yeah forgot his name though i mean we'll see we need to see how that alien movie turns
out if romulus is good maybe he's the hot new uh you know thing he's our
already a good hoarder. I like his other stuff. Well, anyway, we'll see. Right now it's looking
weird. It's looking iffy. What else? Oh, AI controversy with comic book covers. Oh,
boy. We knew it was coming, though, didn't we? I felt like it. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
It's a matter of time. It depends on how people are using AI, I suppose. But the big thing
last week, the solicitations for DC Comics went out, and they have a bunch of variant covers
from Francesco Matina. And another artist, Addie Grano,
went online and just called this guy out for totally lifting his art from AI,
or at least having it generated a lot by AI,
maybe using his own art model or something like that.
And of course, nobody is saying anything.
But Granov said, here's the reason why I know that this is AI generated art.
If you look at Superman's symbol,
there's like a little weird double triangle underneath the S where there typically isn't.
And the guy's like, yeah, this is really typical for for AI doing this.
You know, same way with the finger, same way with thumbs.
Apparently Superman's S symbol is also really messed up.
And I was like, oh, is this, is this right?
So I opened up the good old mid journey and I started typing things like, oh, person wearing a Superman t-shirt with the Superman logo.
And it was doing the logo perfectly.
But I also noticed that in the room that it was putting the person, it was putting Superman symbols on the wall, like frame dark kind of stuff.
And sure enough, boom.
right there is the messed up s on this background imagery so no one has said anything as of yet
but i i suspect that this will all come up very soon it's also controversial because this is
an artist others have accused in the past even sort of pre-a-i of like maybe even tracing over the
top of somebody else's wiping stuff and then putting his own finish work on it so there's that
part of this that's controversial but um yeah i think that that little thing that happened to the
bottom of the S, that's a telltale sign.
Yeah, you're kidding.
You don't draw that, you don't draw that on purpose.
No, it's like, well, the S and then a second bottom curve for the S, you know.
Yeah.
So somebody's probably used, I mean, the fact that people are going to use it to augment their work or whatever, you see that happening.
That's a thing.
But it's not going to be any less controversial.
There really is no great path forward from the, from, for the community.
who follows comic books, they're never going to be okay with this.
I just, I don't know when it changes, if it ever does change.
I don't think it will.
I think there will always be backlash.
And as someone who is very critical of art generation in AI, and I'm very critical of it,
I think that there are some arguments to be made about use cases, but we're so angry about it.
I don't think any of those even get in.
I think it's like, it's like, and if, you know what it's like, it's like, it's like, and if, you know what it's like,
like blockchain.
Oh, yeah.
Blockchain has incredible actual technical use cases, but because it gets tied to
NFTs and stuff that is stupid and scammy, it's just got a scar, it's got a stigma now.
And I think this will always have a stigma and there's probably just no way around it.
And we should just draw and make, you know, if you're going to be a paid artist, do art
and don't use AI.
How about that?
I think when it comes to AI, you know the graph of the Uncanny Valley where acceptable,
acceptable, acceptable, all of a sudden, creepy and unacceptable.
and then it bounces back up, that's totally fine.
I think that's the same way that happens with AI
where, you know, whatever you're doing in your graphics application
that employs artificial intelligence to help you remove noise or something,
that's totally acceptable, but then when you get into something like this,
totally unacceptable, but then when you get into, you know, talking to your voice assistant
and saying, hey, can you add this to my list or can you do these kinds of things,
then it becomes totally acceptable again.
So we're in that weird, a lot of the art stuff, I think,
think falls into that graph that you would typically see on an uncanny valley, but for acceptable
AI art. I had a funny interaction with a guy on the app called Vero. It's like an artist app.
Kind of competes with like Instagram and, you know, more artist or more visually centric
social networks. And they have a mix of AI and non-AI on there and stuff. And I put up a comic
this week that makes fun of it sort of. It's basically a guy who, well, I'll just read it to you. He says,
I put two lines of text into a complex system of servers and machine learning and came out
with this drawing of a horse.
I'm a professional artist, he says, in the final frame.
And obviously, it's poking fun of people who think they're artists when they just are
putting text prompts in.
But here's my point.
I put this up on there.
And I had a guy accuse me of AI generating the art I did for this.
Was he being serious or was he just like, I can't tell for sure.
I don't know.
And it's entirely possible he was trolling.
So it's totally possibly he was trolling and having a laugh.
He seemed as serious as I can take it.
But it just goes to show regardless.
There's no navigating this without people being wackadoo.
It's just.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Maybe he's a lot.
Yeah, maybe he is.
Maybe he was generated by a robot.
Anyway.
Yeah, we'll see how that all pans out.
Steven, is there anything going on at major spoilers?
that you're like, man, people should be tuning in for what I'm saying.
Again, people need to be checking out our critical hit podcast.
We're punching Nazis in the face and punching Kathulhu monsters in the face.
And maybe this, in the next couple of weeks, maybe those monsters and bad guys punch back on our party.
And maybe they won't survive.
Oh.
Yeah, maybe they won't.
And find out in the meantime, because it is so hot all across the country.
Drink plenty of water and stay hydrated.
That has never been better advice than it is today.
Thank you for that.
So true.
So true.
Especially for the East Coast.
I worry about those people.
Big, big things to Mrs. Cooch, you know, Cooch's wife, Liz, who brought me a giant, bought me two giant bottles of Desani.
And I've still got one of them here.
I hold it all the way from Hara's over here because it's like, nope, I need water here too.
So.
What was, why is Cooch called Cooch?
Does he have an origin for that?
Yep.
His last name is Coochanata.
Oh, well, that's perfect then.
That's great.
Yes, exactly.
they're uh they're from that area of philly where you get a nickname when you're five and that nickname carries through all the way up until you're 63 yeah which he is turning happy birthday cooch it's his birthday today so oh congratulations he and cb are currently uh flying home and liz cb back to denver and cooch and liz back to uh back to joysie they do sound like it sounds like a nickname in an 80s uh you know like a john hugh's movie yes right or like
sand lot. Hey, Cooch, go get the ball from over the other side of that fence with the good
beast. Totally. I love that. That's really great. All right. One quick thing before we get out of here
on the EV Kia tip from a listener. This is from Andrew. He wrote in and says, hi. I was listening
to the EV talk on TMS. And I recently bought a Kia Nitro EV. I thought I would pass on my lesson
learned, so you'd better be informed. What did I say? Nitro. Nero. How did I get a T in there?
I don't know, but it'd be really cool. Nitro EV.
I know the answer to it.
If you see me do this a lot, like what I'm doing right now.
So when I got my cataract surgeries in 2014 or whatever, one of the things the doctor said is you're going to get cellular growth in weird places inside there because it thinks it needs to keep regrowing what we take out.
When that happens, sometimes that stuff will grow and then sluff off and it will be like looking through a blanket.
So right now I have a big ass floater that will go away.
They always do.
I've had this three or four times.
but right now, certain text will jump out of me wrong.
And so I'm just warning everybody, I'm going to see Nitro sometimes.
Okay, all right.
Anyway, he says he bought a Kia Nero EV,
and he thought I would pass on the lesson learned so you are better informed than I was,
and maybe don't make my mistake.
It says, I really like my Kia Nero EV, so this isn't me saying don't buy one.
But when I bought it in December, the salesman suggested I might want to wait
as he had something better coming.
Ooh. Let's see. I thought he was just trying to upsell me as no one trusts a car salesman, but it seems I was, what? It seems I was talking to the only honest one in the world. Kia just released the Kia EV-5 here in New Zealand. I should have mentioned he's in New Zealand, which is a slightly bigger than the Nero, all right? Okay. Longer range, faster charging, and lots more features. It's the smaller brother to the EV-9.
Wow.
So don't feel like my instant buyers regret or don't feel my instant buyers regret and don't just look at what's available now, but maybe what's coming soon.
Love the Kia, though, Andrew.
So, yeah, I guess at any given time, there's something better coming.
And that's always true of any car except these are bigger jumps, right?
Yes, right.
Yeah, and Kia's got their whole, like, their EV line, right?
The EV6 is their sedan, but that thing is gorgeous.
That was the number one rated EV.
a couple of years ago with consumer reports
and so it was on my list.
The EV5, I'm looking at it right now
and this is
sexy as hell.
And the only problem I had with the Nero is that I thought
it might be too small.
So,
man, it looks
like a high contender
for me of like, this is one I'm going to be looking at
is the EV5.
And sometimes these aren't the same
as they get it internationally.
So I assume this is the same card, the 2025 EV5.
Yeah.
Well, and see, here's the thing.
I'm on Kiacom.
Kia.com.
Oh, it does say,
Kia.com slash AU.
I was going to say,
I'm not on a,
I'm not on, you know,
Kia.
I'm not on Kia.
com slash AU slash cars slash EV5.
So,
so yeah, who knows if,
I can't imagine they won't try
and introduce the EV5
into the U.S.
if it does well.
But that looks like exactly the right size.
of things. It's like size of the soul, but EV.
Do you have to convert your house to have a 220 or whatever the outlet is you need for a charge?
Certain dealerships will include or use it as an incentive to pay for installation of a,
it's almost like getting an electrical outlet installed for a washer dryer because those need the 220 volts things.
So potentially, yes, but there is also an option.
And we have solar, so it would be great to, like, power my car with the sun
before it sends all my extra solar energy to the grid.
We also have a coal's a block away.
We have a Walgreens a block away.
So I could always go and just park there for an hour, walk home,
and then walk back up, pick up my car, and drive me back home,
and I've got a fully charged car.
I think I'd have to pay for that.
Yeah, they pay.
I don't know how those work.
I assume you pay.
right?
Yeah, you pay, yeah.
They just work like a gas pump.
Almost like a gas pump, but I think it costs a lot less than gas.
Yeah.
You know, for filling a, filling a, quote-unquote, energy tank,
a battery.
I think it was less than the cost of filling your car with gas, obviously.
Yeah.
Well, I'm curious about this one.
So we appreciate the heads up.
I didn't know this one that works either.
I had no idea.
I like this a lot.
If you want to be like Andrew and give it,
us good advice. You can send an email in. That's what he
did. That email address is the
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yeah, babo-bib, man, boom, ma'am.
I can't hear.
There's something wrong
That's what I'm
That's what I'm
That's so funny
That's so funny
I don't know what kind of night
He was having
But that's what he sounded like
That's what he sounded like
That's it
That's it
Frogpants.com slash TMS
We're done Brian
Let's play a song on our way out the door
Well okay
Let me zoom out
I don't know how I got zoomed in
on my, oh gosh, oh no, oh, oh, view 100%.
Show me 100% again, please.
That's so weird.
It's still like super big.
Huh, okay.
Well, I guess I'm just going to, oh.
Can you shrink it?
It's weirdness with docs.gov.com.
And when I scroll, I'm just going to send this to you because it's like so wacky-looking.
Hmm.
That's weird that's doing that at all.
So you can see it.
Yeah, this is so, like our regular thing that I'm looking at our discussion in, like our show notes, totally fine.
But look at this business.
This is what it looks like when I scroll.
Is this in where are you sending this?
That's in, oh, in Discord.
Discord.
I'm pulling it up.
I don't see it yet.
Oh.
Really?
Yeah, I still just have the Atari thing.
Oh.
And apparently went into, where is this thing?
Oh, Ambassador Domo posted a link to the EV5, not coming to the U.S.,
so I posted it apparently in TMS Chatter.
Oh, well, that's a good place to go.
Nothing wrong with that.
Yes, nothing wrong with that.
There you go.
Oh, my gosh, dude, that's effed up.
It's really heft up.
A browser using Safari, assume, or what?
Safari.
Yeah, Safari.
It shouldn't be a problem.
It should be, it's okay now, though.
All right, here we go.
Susan T wrote in and said
You brought up Keene a few weeks ago
And I wasn't sure you'd ever heard their cover of
Queens Under Pressure. Definitely a favorite.
Love the show, signed Susan T.
Nice.
Yes, and I'm, you know, again,
talked about how much of a fan of Keen I am
in that album.
Hopes and Fears, so freaking good.
These guys recorded this for, I think,
The War Child,
a new musical Express
charity thing,
charity project. And it's a fantastic cover of Queens Under Pressure. We've never played it
here on the show before. So let's do it now. Here is Keen and Under Pressure. That's awesome.
We'll be back tomorrow. Brian will still be in Vegas. And we will have a Tuesday edition of the show.
So please come back and enjoy your time with us live. And if you're at home going, when do you
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we'll see you then
Pressure,
Mm-bombard
Bambi
Bambi
Bambi
Pressure
pushing down
on me
pressing down
on you
No man is
true
Under pressure
The grounds
A feeling down
splits a family
In two
It puts people on streets
L'a'a-a-h-a-h-a-h-de-a-de-in, that's all against the terror know what this world is about
watching some good friends screaming let me out
where tomorrow gets me higher
Push around people, people on the streets
Dara, let it go.
Okay.
Tripping around, kick my putting through the floor.
These are the days that never rinse, but it falls.
Dita-da-da-da-da-do.
Dita-da-da-da.
Bela-up.
People on streets.
Ida-de-da-de-de-da-de-de-de-a-de-de-a-de-de-a.
It's the terror of knowing what this world is about
Watching some good friends screaming, let me out
Bread tomorrow gets me high, high, hey, hey, go to the street
Turn away from it all like a blind man
Set on a fence, but it don't work
Keep coming up with love, but it's so slashed and torn.
Insanity life's under pressure we're cracking.
We give ourselves, one more chance.
Then one more chance
Why can we give love, give love, give love, give love, give love
Give love, give love, give love, give love, give love, give love,
Because love such an old fashion world
And loved as you to care for the people on the edge of the neck
And love is you
To change our way of caring about ourselves
This is our last time
This is our souls
Under pressure
Under pressure
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