The Morning Stream - TMS 2666: Yawn Rock

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Brian Ibbott is back like a vertebrae. Pinata massengill. Tubal Litigation. You shall not password! How Lame is Your Claim. Peeping through the pee hole. Curry-Covered Kids. Fountain Blue farting. Play The Bird Machine. You'll Get Three Strikes, No Poochie and No Lt Yar! Dance till they vomit. Troma Angry Birds. Trapezoids, Trapezius, Trapadoos? Exhausting Puppy Behavior with Tom. JERRY SEINFELD VOICE with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The morning stream sounds like the boring stream, but it's not. It's not like that at all. It's so good. We have people signing up at patreon.com slash TMS all the time. Coming up on the morning stream, Brian Ibbett is back like a vertebrae. Pinyana Massaniel. Tubal litigation. You shall not pass word.

How lame is your claim? Peeping through the peahole. Curry covered kids. Fonton blue farting. Play the bird machine. You'll get three strikes. No poochie and no loo. Lieutenant Yard.

Dance till they vomit. Trauma, angry birds. Trapezoids, trapezius, trapezoids, trapezeous, trapeadoos. Exhausting puppy behavior with Tom. Jerry Seinfeld, boys, with Randy and Nicole and more. On this episode of The Morning Stream. This is Brigadier General Francis X Hummel, United States Marine Corps from Alcatraz. Out.

Like fish. Like fish. Like fish. Like fish. The morning stream. That's the bravest thing I've ever seen a vegetable do. Oh, man, that dance you're doing is, is it possible to get nauseous, just watching someone dance? I don't know.

I look like I'm slowly fighting several punching bags all of a week. If you're only listening to the audio version of the show today, Brian and I are both dressed as if we want to dance like that at some bar or something. So, yeah, it's too bad you're not here live. We're not quite yacht rock. We're more like yawn rock. Yeah, there you go. That's a good way of putting it.

Hey, everybody, it's TMS. I don't know if you know this, but it's Wednesday, June 26th, and it's the year 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. And he is home from Las Vegas, Nevada. Welcome back. I am. Hello.

Thank you. It's good to be back. Is it weird that the time you were gone is roughly the same amount of time that you would go for TMS Vegas, but the experience of not having to run anything while you're there is so freaking different. You know what I mean? Yeah, it absolutely is. I was telling Tina about that. It feels like I was there for a lot longer on this trip than I was for TMS Vegas.

And even TMS Vegas, I think I'm there for one extra day. Like we arrived, TMS Vegas, we arrived on Saturday. So full days were Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then we left Thursday. So technically I was there for four full days and two half days. On this trip, I was there for three full days and two half days or travel days or whatever. And I feel like I feel like I was there for a longer time on this trip than I was. Because for TMS Vegas, I am constantly doing stuff. There's like, I get that, that Oculus from Rev Fry, and I was like, oh, man, I can't wait.

I'm totally going to, you know, in the hotel room, get some downtime and play a little bit of that. No, I didn't have any downtime to play with the Oculus. So it's like, I had to wait until I got home to finally try it out because there's zero downtime. However, on this trip, it was like, oh, you know, I probably would have had some time to play the Oculus that I brought it. And by the way, people asked, I did not take the Oculus with me. did iPad on the the cycling machines and stuff like that. Yeah, that's too bad because

I was hoping, I was hoping for some reaction. I wanted some people to see it. I don't see the problem is I wouldn't be able to see the reaction because I'd have the Oculus on my face, so I have no idea. But what I did really like, and I wish I could have taken a picture of it, but there was always somebody standing next to it or working out next to it

and it would have been really creepy to take a picture. But they've got, in the Hara's fitness room, they've got all of these motivational sayings on the walls like never give up or

you can do this or stuff like that wow really deep stuff you can do this and never give up I love those I'm definitely getting it wrong they were way like you know they were usually like

almost a full sentence or something I remember one of them and this is the one little bit to tell you about but it was you know some guys back who had just finished lifting or something

but he's like muscular and his trapezoids are looking or trapezoids no trapezoids a shape what's the what was the oh uh trap trapezi trapezius no anyway his his traps traps yeah they always call him traps but I don't know what the short is it trapezius I guess it is trapezius okay traps um anyway like all you know all freshly muskular stretched out from lifting weights

And then above it, it said, when you think about quitting, and then the bottom half underneath it said, remember what inspired you to get started. Or think about what made you get started. But between those two phrases is, please limit cardio time to 30 minutes on the machines. So what the phrase really says is, when you think about quitting, please limit your cardio time to 30 minutes on the machines. that's great i hope you're inspiration i'd have taken a picture of it because it was it just cracked me up so much but but there was always somebody working out right next to it and the last thing i want is to be like it's like break all break all your break all your records but do it within the time limit that we have set exactly when you think about quitting make sure it's 30 minutes

that's amazing that's amazing yeah i would have been a great picture but also yeah i'm i'm with you when you take pictures sometimes people are weird that would not have been that would not have gone well so well good good man i'm glad that it all went well and you're home and uh you know we're back to we're back to sort of normal here on the on the morning show here yep um i got uh so my daughter had surgery nothing serious just a voluntary thing she wanted to do it she's just getting her tubes tied or whatever you call that oh okay sure uh hysterectomy no that's a full i think that's a full get your uterus out. So this is a... Oh, okay. All right. This is tubes tied to...

Tubal ligation. No. Tube tibligation, is that it? Something like that. I forget the name of it. Anyway, she went, is that what it is, Kelly? Okay. They seems to be confirmed. Tubal litigation. She had to stand... Your honor, I object. My tubes are great. Anyway, so she goes in yesterday and we said, hey, we'll watch the kids. Bring the kids over. You know, that's a burden while she's dealing with that. And Dylan had to take off work and is at the hospital with her. And so we're like, please let us watch the kids. So we had Van and Phoebe here all day yesterday or most of the day yesterday and then overnight, which is fine.

But I got to tell you, I was a little nervous because for dinner, we asked them what they wanted to have and they both went, curry. They love curry. They love curry. Oh, but, yeah, that's great. Kids love curry. I don't know what their deal is. They like it spicy too a little bit. At least the little one does.

Nice. They and not so much. They don't know what spicy is. But okay, that's fine. No, they really don't. But anyway. So we gave them curry and all I could think of was Please don't overdo it

Please don't overdo it Because what I don't want tonight is like barfing kids in the middle of the night You know what I mean? Right, right. Especially the colors of curry, the red curry, the green curry Yeah It kind of looks the same coming out as it did going in Yeah, plus we have van on the couch with it's all laid out

With these nice blankets and everything I'm thinking I don't want to come clean that So it's not, I was just being paranoid because they're fine and they eat curry all at times. So instead of barfing all over the place, they were just disgusting after dinner. They were covered in curry, just covered in it, dude. Did you give them silverware?

Did you just have them, uh, bet with their face in the bowls? I do. And Vann's pretty good, right? It holds his bull with one hand, eats with the other. He's a lefty. Aren't you a lefty? You're a lefty as well. Tina and I are both lefties.

Yeah, he's a lefty as well. So he's holding with one hand and eating just fine. He's five. He can handle this. Phoebe, on the other hand, is independent enough to refuse to let anyone feed her. She won't do it. But she's, what, 18 months old? She wants to eat it herself.

That's fine, but it means catastrophe. It just means food all over her, the floor. The dogs are running around acting like it's the greatest day of their lives because they get to eat it off the floor. And a couple of those dogs, I think that's why Rainer couldn't poo this morning. She got like curry in her sister. A little curry constipation. Something going on. Yeah.

Anyway, it was all great. Everyone's fine. And for everyone who asked her Taylor is doing, she's great, recovering nicely. She has bad reactions to morphine, as my wife does. And so she spent a lot of her night hurling. But normal for her, though. Morphine just doesn't just does not jive. Just doesn't go well with her.

No, they don't like it. Or it's some, I don't know, it's some modified new morphine-based something they give people for the pain. Morphinex. Morphinex. Ask your doctor if morphinex is right for you. Yeah. And I told her, I said, look, I'll go out to a street corner and get you some, you know, some white China. Yeah. Little something out there. China white. China white. I have it backwards. Yeah. I can't get her. White China, I think is an ultra-box song. Oh, is it. My little, my little white China girl. Wait a minute. That's not it.

No, nope. So anyway, just thanks to everybody who's asking. She's doing great. It was, this is a, this used to be a much more invasive thing back in the day, like 20 years, 30 years ago even. They, they. you know, you'd be down for a while and lots of, lots of stitches to heal and all that. Not anymore. It's all lathroscopic, laparoscopic, rather. And it was quick in and out. She was done, although they made her wait forever and ever and ever, because I guess this guy got, got a, he was in the middle of a baby birthing that went south or they had

a hard time or something. The babies, I guess it all turned out okay. We don't know very little about it, but because of it, it delayed everything else he had planned for the day or scheduled by like two and a half hours. So she had to sit in that hospital room with that dumb. gown on for almost three hours, you know, just chilling. I'm like, you should have watched the postman or something. Something long, you know. If you had the time, yeah, might as well. Anyway, she's all good now. So thanks everybody for your nice kind words. She's, she's young and

vibrant and able to. Oh, they found, they figured out. So she's been having these weird pains for a long time since, since Phoebe was born. But they've done cat scans, all this stuff. They can't find out what was wrong. And they're like, we don't know what it is. But a lot of times when you do this tubal ligation, that'll take care of it. Like, it's just phantom pains from. a pre-pregnancy or whatever so you know you get that done we'll see what happens they get in there and they find a big old ass cyst in there oh no yeah not cancers or anything just a cyst and uh she gets some so the doctor says based on what he saw she won't get him anymore because now the tubes are out but what was happening is every time she'd drop an egg like a damn chicken uh it would

something would happen where a cyst would happen and that was the pain every month she was having it was so bad so anyway All's on the ups. Thumbs up. Good. Good. Down to the straw house. Also, we got a quick audio call about some, sometimes people are, not, this isn't

even a call. This is just a clip I found. Some people are so clueless and we don't always get audio proof of just how clueless they are. Is this free hotel room talking about us? No, no, but it is very, he is often very clueless. no no i think he thinks that we're clueless i know but it's usually him i think is a little clueless whatever bob you're fine we like you you're a great guy uh here's this thing i found it's small

claims court and uh they filmed this i don't know what show this was on but it's an actual it's actual footage of an actual courtroom experience all right and i edited a little bit of there's a there's chunks of this where there was just long pauses because that's how it happens in court the judge is writing something down or whatever but this guy is explaining his case to this judge, and I still, to this minute, cannot believe this guy has this complaint. So I'll play it, and Brian, you can help me make a judgment call here. Here we go.

Check it out. You're suing to gain access to the defendant's Wi-Fi passcode? That's right, Your Honor. Please, tell us what's going on with that. Well, I've been living across the hallway from Jennifer for about two years now, And I've been happily using her internet signal without any problems. And up until recently, I come to find out there was a password put on it. And I went to across the hall to ask Jennifer nicely several times for the password, but she keeps on refusing.

Okay. His entire case. That's horrible, Jennifer. His whole case is this thing where he's using somebody's free password or somebody's free Wi-Fi that was unprotected. She locks it down. He thinks he has so much right to it that he actually brought her to court and sued. Files a lot files a suit against her.

That's awesome. What was this, what was the claim like lost wages or lot of punitive damages or something? Not enough access to, to porn. I don't know, who knows. They didn't get that far into, but this judge was, I've never seen a judge. look more like out of his mind why is this why are we even entertaining this thing i mean clearly they just threw it out they got to the point where they just threw this thing out yeah yeah but who in there i don't know who that listening to that guy talk he's like 62 or something i feel like i

know somebody like this and i cannot put my finger on it i don't know who it is i really can't even i couldn't tell you but i know i've met people like this where they're where they feel like they're entitled in ways that are so beyond the pale that I don't I cannot get my head around this like why would you think that somebody's why would you even even go the minute you saw there was a password after using it for so long that's the day you went well that ends that exactly I guess my free ride is over I just couldn't believe it's actually it's not like the first time he said her name sounds like Jennifer yeah it'd be great of it was Benifer Jennifer Lopez across the hall there.

But I would just be, I was beside myself watching this and I just thought, if this person was a neighbor, I would find every possible way to block them from my life that I could. Yeah, good luck with that living across the hall, sadly. You know, you're going to,

you're going to, anytime they hear your door move, they're going to run over and peek through their pee hole, pee hole, peephole, maybe they'll pick through their pee hole. Hey, Brian, he could take Brian out of Vegas. That's what you do over there They even call them P-holes over there So all the P-holes

But yeah He'll be looking through his peephole To see what you're doing Coming in? Oh, coming out, Oh, she left the house at 10 p.m. Oh, I wonder what Jennifer's doing tonight. Oh, yeah.

And I mean, the fact that you would just argue like, Well, I was getting it before now. She should give it to me now. No, no, dude. Get your own damn internet, you freaking weirdo. Exactly. Exactly. I hate this.

What am I supposed to do? Call it Xfinity now and get my own? Like I understand. I implore you. This guy was maybe really, I don't know. Let's say he had some severe mental disability or something. Yeah, sure. I understand expectations in that realm.

But he doesn't strike me as somebody. Like, does he also expect his neighbors to pay his water bill or his electric bill? or his electric bill or any of that. Yeah, I mean, I guess it just seems like kind of open and shut. I guess the judge says, did you have any sort of agreement that she would provide you free internet for in perpetuity? No. Okay. I guess we're done here.

Thanks. And I don't know. The chat suggested this. I don't know if this is possible, but maybe the court can charge the guy for wasting their freaking time and tax dollars. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Like, what's the point? I didn't see in the video, but I don't know if the girl had to be there.

to like defend herself or anything maybe it's just a i don't know how this sort of level of court works people's court kind of confused me because i always thought it seemed really serious but they i think they were kind of you know not joking around but they were kind of just you know not really giving us exactly this this is not uh they're not fighting al rovi wade here no yeah but i mean you can hear it almost this man thinks his internet should be free his neighbors is no defendant he uh he believes that jennifer should be providing him free internet he's suing for 1895 per month yep and then they'd have that loud typing noise yep yep it's great meet the plaintiff yeah

Jennifer Doug Llewellyn man go look him up I know yeah those were the day all right well there's that anything else about Vegas you wanted to mention it's all sewn up and done it's all sewn up and done it was a it was a great trip the the center the nucleus of the trip the concert was fantastic and the the the venue, Fontainebleau, absolutely gorgeous, as one would expect from a hotel resort that's only been open for about six or seven months. It's just really, really nice, really nice setup. I want to stay there. I want to get a room, you know? Yeah, well, apparently, according to the folks on 500 by Midnight, the original Las Vegas podcast,

Tim and Michelle, hi there. I don't think they listen to this, but I'm a huge fan of their show. They're still going, right? I've been going a long time. still going. They started shortly around the same time that I did. That's great. So they have callers who call in. I probably should call in myself to their show and just, you know, I go by the name

Penaena Massengill is a long story. I won't go into it. But wait, Penaenaenaena Massengill? Pinyana Massengill, yeah. I have a lot of questions. All right, I'll tell the short version of the story. They were in a casino. They overheard a loudspeaker say, Penaenaena Massengill, please come to

the front desk, or at least what they think they heard was pinata massingill and uh so the next time i called into the show i said hi this is pinata massingale i mean brian a bit and then i told him i gave him a trip report and so now from now on i just call in his pinata mass and gill as in like the brand of like the douche the douche the douche all right the douche got it the douche as jack black would say is a douche the douche wrapped up like a douche in the middle of the night or whatever anyway so they people would call in And according to one of their callers, basically you walk into the font and blue, you sign up for a player's card, you walk around a little bit, you fart, and they're going to start sending you hotel offers right then. It's all it takes.

That's really all it takes. Because they want you. They need you. They want, exactly. They're a five-star. So I did. I laid some over by the Willy Wonka slot machines. I went over to the pit, the craps tables and put one there.

Perfect. I want to make sure that I'm covering all the bases. Do you have staying power? Do they hang about and sort of, you know, solidify their presence? Well, I'll find a good chair with some cushions on it. Not the leather blocking kind of cushions, but the really absorbent kind of fabric cushions on them. And then I'll just make sure to bury one in there that will stay there for a while. Oh, yeah.

You drill them into those and they'll have good, you know, the next three people that sit there will notice. They'll know. Right, right there in front of the three little pigs huff and puff. tournament slot machine right there is the one. Yeah. That's a real thing. You know what they do a lot now I noticed when we were there last time? It kind of annoys me.

It's not that big a deal, I guess. But usually you go and you see these name brand or, you know, interesting branded slot machine. So it's a Lord of the Rings machine or Med Max machine or whatever, IP based. But this time I noticed that there was one called perturbed avians or some shit that look like angry birds, but it wasn't actual angry birds. The trauma version of Angry Birds, basically. Yeah, there was like a ton of that this last time. And I didn't expect that. Is that just them going, you know, I don't think people actually care if it's Angry Birds.

They just want to play the bird machine. You know what I mean? Exactly. So common. I'm trying to think of one that I saw on this trip that I had to do a second glance. It was like, well, that's almost Game of Thrones. And then there is a Game of Thrones machine, obviously. But I look over as like, oh, that's funny.

That kind of looks like a Game of Thrones slot machine. And then you look closer. It's like, yeah, kind of everything about it is, it looks game. And their games are like, you know, throne of games or some shit. And it's like, it's almost like, it's like mobile games. Mobile games do this all the time. It's like, they'll have a picture. It looks like an orc from World Warcraft, but the name of the game is like,

War of Craft, ultimate, whatever. I hate that stuff. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, people are obviously able to do that because it works. You can capitalize on people's inability to remember exactly what the name. name of the thing that they like is so it's like oh i think that's it because that looks like and they'll download and say great a microtransaction me suckers suckers yeah all right well it's too easy these days to pray upon the uh the the the dim-witted that is true that is true slow yeah they're they're easily more they're more uh it's not that they didn't always exist

it's just they're easily tapped it's easy to find them they really are yes they're all connected Everyone's got a phone so you can easily advertise to them because they're out liking AI images on Facebook. That looks like Jesus somehow. I love it. Let me like it and put a smile. I can't believe you saw Jesus. Those people are now accessible. I got fooled this week, by the way.

I totally fell for an AI image that I thought was real. It was a photo of two cyber trucks that had crashed into each other. Oh, yeah. Those are, I saw that one too, and there was the tires that gave it away for me. there's like a little indent stripe on one of the tires that's like okay that's what that and the um the fact that there are door handles that's the other giveaway yeah yeah no you're right there's there was uh it's funny though because those things especially when you're dealing with geometric shapes they can fake those a lot better than people and they gotta be a little more scrutinous but the people on facebook who miss the obvious ones like i crocheted an entire elephant i'm a grandma like my my photo and people believe that shit, those people are also getting ads

for micro-transacted bullshit on app stores. Yeah, yeah. Bringing in the dummies. Kind of like we just did now with Brian Dunaway. Oh. Joining us now for a little bit of a game is Mr. Brian Dunaway.

Hi, Brian. How are you? The most insulting segue ever. Oh, hi, Scott, Brian. The most insulting segue is the actual segue from the segue people back in the day. That was an insulting device. Aren't they working on something new?

Didn't they come up with some kind of new thing? They're trying to recapture the magic. Didn't I see that recently? Are they? I hadn't heard. That's true. It's news to me. I've been seeing a lot around that are the,

instead of the bar that comes all the way up that you hold like candle bars or hold like a handlebars or hold like a handle bar, they have one where it's kind of like it's kind of like it only goes as high as your knees. So you've got your feet on either side of it. It's almost like one of those, what do they call it a one wheel but it goes up to your knees and you kind of like

you use your knees to kind of steer it so if these kids out here they don't know what the segue is it was the cyber truck of his day it kind of was yeah yeah yeah and not not uh well i don't know some people they were rusting out in the rain

exploding when they hit telephone poles you know sure yeah technology hey jeff sire that was brian dunaway talking there and uh if you don't like what he said about Tesla? Send me an email. Anyway. The 9-Bod, I guess is what that thing's called.

My dad actually, my dad actually has his reserved. Oh, a cybertrying? He shouldn't have to reserve it. They're everywhere. They're like over. Oh, well, yeah. Well, now, but not five years ago when the promises were made.

And he was all like, I'm getting in on this cyber truck deal. I'm like, dad, you know, you're not 40 anymore. I don't know if you'll still be here. by the time he gets done with it. Yeah, who knows? Well, they're all now. Now they can't get rid of him, so have him check with his dealership

and get off that damn list. Just get his truck already. We have on the line with us a listener who happened to be third caller, which is what I chose to choose today. I usually do fourth. Today I snuck in and did a third person. And guess who it is?

It's Ian. I am sci-fi. Hello, dude. How are you? Oh, snap. Oh, snap. Oh, snap. Look, is the East Coast safe with you there?

Tell me about it. the east coast is boiling right now scott it is it is like 93 degrees it has been insistently for the last like seven days yeah you guys are in that what they uh someone called it a heat dome heat bowl i call a heat bowl yeah we just yeah what i what i so reading an article says they're having a heat dome and the picture they used it looked like a giant like it looked like uh galactus had dropped a contact on the planet It did. Hold on. Nobody move. Don't move. I lost my left one again. Shit.

Surfer to me. Please help me. Get the silver surfer to get my contact back. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here. We're going to play a game. Brian's going to explain it. Tell us what the prizes are and what you could win. Brian, take it away. Okay, well, it's time to play the tadpulley feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian get after predict the answers that they gave us. it is scot and brian's job to see how many of those answers they can come up with i am sci-fi your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either scott or brian and if your team wins you will get a prize package that includes the miasma chronicles and imperion galactic survival oh i have that game and it's very good by the way yeah i've played it the other one but i played that and it's fantastic you'll like it excellent the heat. Yeah, even in the heat. In your heat dome. Even in the heat. Awesome.

Excellent. Let's get in here. All right. Let's get to it. I see both of you have logged in. Put your hands on your buzzers and give me your best answer to this. Oh, by the way. Spoiler alert, folks. You'll find out why in just a moment.

What's your favorite character from a TV series who doesn't survive the series? Oh, Scott. Doesn't survive the series. Shit. Oh, well, you should have an answer before you buzz in. Usually, yes, but, you know, this is the strategy here. Well, you know, you should think more about it. Sorry, Walter White.

Dang it. And hold on. You got it just in time. Walter White, number four on the list, Walter White. Three answers will beat it. Brian, name a TV character. Now, I will tell you this, and I'm only going to say this because it is not a, to save people who are like, I'm not listening to this one because it's full of spoilers.

There are no currently airing shows in this list. So the two-week, Vince Gillian, two-week thing is totally applying to all these. Two weeks, definitely applies. I can only think his stupid answers, by the way. I can only, for some reason, I can think a stupid answer. So what's so different this week, Brian? Oh, see, Scott's not the only one he can sing yet. Read the question again.

Sure. What's your favorite character from a team? TV series who doesn't survive the series. Roseanne. That is a stupid answer. Let's see if it's on the board. Show me, Roseanne. That made me hurt. It was so worth it.

But I absolutely love that answer. That is a fantastic answer. That's great. All right. All right. This is good. Scott, you've got control. You've got sci-fi there with you. And let me hit you. the button that says Scott will play

Scott play all right what do you think Ian anything leaping to your soul how about Tony Soprano oh it's a good one that's what I was going to say yeah we only the funny thing is we only know that finale was in 07 I think and we only have recently in the last

five years found out from David Chase was it David Chase no the other guy anyway the showrunner creator guy David Chase was there but he left to do Mad Men so it was a different guy oh oh oh at that point I see what just saying yeah I can't they give his name. Anyway, I think David Chase ran it at the end, but the story

was, what's his name? Anyway, point is, it's all confirmed now. So I feel like this is one they would answer in the affirmative. So I'm going to say, I agree, and we should try Tony Soprano. Let's do it. All right. Sounds good. Show me. Hey, come out, look,

some of that gababogoo. Answer, it was two people said it. Only 50, I'm sorry, 50 in the list. It's a good answer, but I think there's some people who are like, well, we don't know for sure, even though it's kind of been confirmed by the showrunner, you're right. All right, Brian. Back over to you.

What other dumb answers do you have? Well, all the rest of my answers are going to be Game of Thrones. Some will go with Eddard Stark. All right. Show me, Ned, Edard Stark. Number one answer on the board. Yeah, baby. You've got one point to Scott and Ian's four points right now, so very good.

Damn, dude. For some reason, well, go ahead. I don't want to give you an answer. Right, right. Thanks, man. Go ahead. You were saying? There's a show, there's a particular show where in the end, nobody survived.

And I'm just trying to think what the tadpole would say, but I'm not going to tell you which one. Gosh, wonder what show that could be. Yeah, I think Brian, I mean, you'll obviously know, but I don't know if, I don't know if the chat's got the head for it or not. Maybe. I don't know. You go ahead, Brian. You do what you do. I can't know if I, there's so many great answers. I want to stay in Game of Thrones, but I want to get the other show that always was killing people off constantly and always making me mad. And I'll tell you who I hated they killed when they killed Echo. He was my favorite character and lost, but there's no way that's on the list. However, they did kill. Didn't they kill? It gets a little blurry. I think they killed Saeed, and he was one of my favorites. I was pissed. Killed him, you say?

Every week. Didn't they kill him? I don't remember. I'll be honest. I'll be completely honest. I do not remember. It was one of those shows where every time they would kill somebody, it was that's it. I'm not watching it no more.

And it seems like I did stop after that for a while. I came back. All right. So you're going with Said? now I can't remember if you died now I feel like I'm wrong son died they all died you know what they're all dead

I want to put the cast I want to put the whole cast of Lost well you're kind of getting to what I was hitting at earlier so well yeah yeah good job on that Said because you're going to tell me I was wrong

I'm okay all right show me Saeed Sayid Jura from Lost no no And to be clear, he, well, boy, oh boy, this is such a, you know, it's been long enough. If you haven't watched Lost, then you really, it's on you. When it stopped airing like almost a decade ago, right? It did, yeah.

Like the show premiered 20 years ago. So over a decade ago. So everybody, everybody who died on the island died on the island, but the people who got off the island and a lot of people were rescued at the end. They lived full lives, but the flash sidewayses that you were seeing were the things that occurred after they lived their full lives. And even if they died years and years and years apart, they were shown to have been arriving all at the same time for that final episode. That is a great explanation. However, it doesn't matter.

The only thing that matters is what the Tadpool believes. They have their own reality. That's true. I will tell you. I think it's just a brain aneurysm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, I know. And it's, but it's such the assumption.

And, you know, Red Fraggle, I think it brought that up during the show. Like, while she was on the air, had mentioned, well, everybody's done on the last. And I said, oh, you need to watch the series again. And then she watched it. And I believe she and Chuck, you guys, if I remember correctly, really enjoyed it. And I was like, okay, that wasn't what I remember from the first watching. That was really cool. Yeah.

You won't. Loss deserves to be watched twice. I really, I truly believe that. I've probably gone through three or four watchings of the show. It is, it's up there in my top five favorite shows of all time easily. It's very good. All right. Ian, what do you think, what do you think, Ian, about Henry Blake from MASH? How do you feel about that? Ooh, that's a good one. I didn't think about MASH. There were no survivors, exactly. That's, that's pretty good. Yeah. That was a big deal back in the day. I don't know how many, you know, people think about. it anymore, but that's a big one. Yeah, leaving the show, then we're going to use this opportunity to kill your character off. Good luck, buddy. Yeah, see around. I guess they didn't

kill everybody, though. When Radar left, he didn't die, he just left. He went home to save the farm. See, they got off the island, okay? Mm-hmm. Yeah, Trapper, Trapper went and had his spin-off show. Like, that's right. That's right. They didn't even, they didn't even use the same actor. Technically, at some point, every character from a VTV show dies. Yeah. If you want to think of it that way. During the series, yeah. All right. Is that what you're going with? Are you going with Colonel Blake?

Let's do Henry. Yeah, Colonel Blake. Henry Blake. All right. There were no survivors. Yeah. Number three answer on the board taking you guys up to seven points. Nice.

Wow. Can you believe that still is impacting people this long later? It was a big deal, dude. That was a huge, huge deal. That was almost as big as the kid was a chicken or the baby was a chicken, you know? Right, right. All right. It really was, yeah.

Let's see. Got a very Scott answer. And, uh, and, uh, you can. can decide whether or not it's uh it's in your wheelhouse is it's west wing what about mrs landingham oh that was a hard core and that was one where they uh both him and um leo they did this with both those characters where the actor died and they and then they had the characters die rather than recast them or whatever so yes i think landing hand mrs landingham was maybe very was more impactful because i mean there was just nothing not to like about her she was like the soul of that show for a while

or felt like it anyway or a big part of it so yeah you know what i like your gut let's do it let's say mrs landingham from uh from the west wing very good all right show me mrs landingham from the west wing no damn it two two people said it i'm sorry three uh no two people said it so way down at uh number 39 39 39 back over to you mr dunaway well i want to say the one that hurt me the most was when Jay J.J.'s dad died, John Amos. That killed me. I thought he actually died in real life, seriously. That's how impressionable I was during time. I'm not going to say that one. Actually, I'm going to go with something more recent,

and there's no way the show can end because he already pulled it in the Big Bang Theory, young Sheldon, his daddy die. Oh. Oh, sure. Okay. All right. All right, show me Young Sheldon's dad Should I win with John Stamos?

Jeremy's? Maybe John Stamos. Yeah, Stamos. I said Stamos, but it was, yeah, he made it. When Uncle Jesse died in the whole house, that was something. Didn't he die in a movie theater with Alana Smart? Oh, never mind, that was somebody else.

Hmm. Was that on the list at all, Brian? Did they make it at all? Young Sheldon's dad? Yeah. No, not even, not even on the list. No, I just did a quick search to see. What about old Sheldon's dad?

I mean, come on. Right, right. Any Sheldon's dad? All right. Ian, got anything that's burning a hole there for you? I've got other Breaking Bads and I've got other Game of Thrones. Yeah. But if you have other choices, because I mean, I'd say Gus Frang breaking bad, that was pretty big.

I feel like, again, Mike Irman Trout was a big one. Brian, or Dunnoy's doing a thing to me where he's making me go back in my childhood a little bit because of the JJ thing. I don't bite. And I think it's when we were kids. It really crushed me when Mr. Spacely died. No, well beyond that. But I remember as a kid being absolutely devastated when we found out Mr. Hooper died in real life

and on the show. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. They made that too real. Yeah, on Sesame Street. They moved that into the show. Yeah. It is Hooper, right? Hooper? Yeah. All right. How do you feel, Ian, about Mr. Hooper?

It's a good answer. Even if it turns out two people got it, that's a good answer. All right, let's do it. Mr. Hooper. All right. Show me Mr. Hooper from Sesame Street. Oh, you guys have no hearts. Your third strike. Two, and is oddly enough, Ian. two people said Mr. Hooper, so. Nice. Yeah.

Killed you. Wow. Like seven answers still on the board, Brian. And, uh, listen, if you get any on the right side, you either tie things or win them. So, so. I think everybody cried a little bit when, uh, Circe and Jamie were underneath the city there and making out one last time. Yeah.

And they died. That shows upsetting. I'm going to go all of you, like, picking characters that everybody hated and saying that it's a favorite TV character, Diana, series. Oh, yeah, Gus, but you love, yes, but it's like, it's like when they killed a, uh, uh, J.R. Not real. J.R. Is that right? Who killed her? Yeah. J.R. Yeah. Uh-huh. But, yeah, but no, but Circe was a favorite, you love Jamie Lannister. You still love this. That's true. That's true. You did like Jamie. Yes. They were, they were complicated. They were complicated characters, and that was the point. He had to deal with the complications. But I can't believe you said JR and you're not going with J.R. I would have found J.R.

But he didn't really die. Was this a dream? Bobby woke up in his shower. No, no, no. It was Patrick Duffy's character like character woke up in the shower. That's right. There was a whole other season that was a dream or something. Yeah.

But J.R. died. He straight up died. Kristen killed. Oh, do you really? Yeah. Okay. In that case, J.R. then. Sure.

Why not? Why not? Why don't we just end this game with only. three answers on the board. All right, cool. No, no, no, no, Searcy, making Searcy. Do you want Searcy? Give me Searcy, baby. Roll in the dice. Give me some Searcy. Tell you what, I'll say

give me either Searcy or JR. Oh, shh. Okay, there you go. Hilarious. Before you give away all the sevens still on the board, Brian, was one of them, Tara

from Buffy? Number 10 on the board. 10 points from Tara from Buffy. Okay, I just noticed somebody in the chat, since we've lost I'm looking, they said something about Mod Flanders. Is that on there? Mod Flanders is not the top 10, but

She got killed by a gun, right? It was a T-shirt gun. Yeah. T-shirt gun. Well, technically, she got killed by the fall on the back of the bleachers. Right. But she got shot with the T-shirt gun. She was number 26 on the list. Let's go

through your number two answer on the board. We're currently watching this and though he didn't die in the series he did die in the movie and that's all it matters Oh, wash Yeah wash from Firefly That's a killer

Dammit This one was This one hurt twice Once when we thought he died And then once when he actually died Thanks to Negan's bat Glenn Rhee from the Walking Dead number five Goodry

Still one of the dirtiest tricks on TV in TV history That comic book led me down a path that they did not take. And I, gosh, dang it. They dangled a carrot and then yanked it away and beat my head in with the carrot. It's those bastards. With a barbed wire around the carrot. That's right.

That's right. Mr. Echo's death was, sure, that hurt a little bit. Are you kidding me? Oh, but, uh, but, uh, no, the, the only true answer for who's, who's death on the Charlie? Charlie, Charlie, it's not Petty's boat. Yeah, Charlie, uh, dang it. saved everybody by

or at least tried to warn everybody Desmond by writing not Penny's boat on his hand and put it up against the glass before he died. Oh my God. Still got choked up thinking about that. You said you had a bunch of Game of Thrones still in the chamber, Brian. You should have used them.

Who would you have said, by the way? I don't know. Well, there's only one right answer and that is Hodor. Hodor. Hodor. Shit. Of course.

Hold the door. You forget how many people in that series got killed off, man. You just forget them. Everybody. Everybody. Red wedding, answer number eight. No, DeNaris Targaryen is answer number eight. And, Ian, you were probably going to dive back into the Breaking Bad again.

Mike Armand Trout, I'll bet. Mike Herman Trout, number nine. I had that one on my head for most of today, and then I kept going with something else. The important thing is. Number 11, I really wish somebody would have said, Tasha Yarr. Oh, Tasha Yard. That would have been your bonus guess.

Dr. Mark Green from ER. Carl from Walking Dead. George O'Malley from Gray's Anatomy. Who was sad that Carl died? Nobody was sad that Carl. Somebody was sad. It was eight people were upset. You're back on that else, Coral.

I think I was sadder when, oh, what's her name? She went on to Orange's The New Black. Oh. Yeah, when her character died. Yeah. Oh, right. Jedzia Dax was number 16.

Joe Miller, Detective Joe from the expanse. I thought Jedzya Dax just left. I didn't know Jedziah died. I thought she just left in the worm went to some other girl. I mean, it was... No, I think she died and the worm went to some other girl, I think. Yeah. I know that?

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened is that she died and then that it got transfer. Detective Joe Miller from the expanse. That was a sad one. John Locke from lost. Obrin Martel, because, you know, Patriot Pascal. Number 19. Omar from the Wire.

Opie from Sons of Anarchy. Buffy's mom. Also making people sad when she died. Coach Bernie Pantuso from Cheers. Oh, this is a recent one. No, no, this one right here.

Let's see. My name, remember it. Uh, that one, uh, I'll just say that, so to avoid some spoilers. Okay. Um, those people who are familiar with it know what the reference was and I'm not going to spoil anything because that is a, that is a within the last year's show. Kenny from South Park. Oh, yeah.

Surprise that didn't make it. Yeah. Let's see. That one I won't say because it's a current show. Um, uh, that one I probably won't say because it's a current show. Bleeding Gums Murphy, I'll say. Uh, Christopher Maltesanti from. The Sopranos, Eddie Munson from Stranger Things, Edna Crabaple.

Hank from Breaking Bad, got a couple people choked up. Oh, yeah, I love Hank. Laura Palmer, boy, she didn't survive. Oh, wow, that was right at the top. She didn't survive the series at all, because she didn't even, she was dead before the first, the opening credits of the first episode. Yeah, she's wrapped in plastic. Are you kidding me? Exactly.

Leo McGarry from the West Wing was up there as well. McDreamy, oh, I said, that McDreamy. Let's see, Paul Hennessy for Made Simple Rules, of course, John Redder. Prue Halliwell from Charmed. Somebody just said, Sean Bean. Okay. See more asses, fries dog from Futurama. Hey, did they, was this list have, you just made me think of one.

Shit, who am I thinking of? Oh, Phil Hartman's character on news radio. Did that get on there? Oh, it was mentioned. Now, did his character die on the show or did? Yes. So they wrote McNeil. It was an in-between season death,

and then in the last season, they started off the season of the funeral. Yeah, and they brought John Lovitz on to be a new character, but he didn't replace him. Right. I didn't know if when the, I couldn't remember after Phil Harmon died,

if they just said, oh, no, his character left to go to another station or something, but they actually did. So it's kind of like, well, no, I guess it's not at all like what happened with Chevy Chase. They just killed him off. They killed Pierce off in community. By the way, nobody said Chevy Chase

in uncommunity. Not the favorite character from a TV series, exactly. A favorite death from his TV series, maybe. Doctor, the Doctor from Doctor Who, the mother from How I Met Your Mother. And then Alf, and who else do we have, Ben from Scrubs, Big Pussy, sorry, folks. Nice, nice. Yeah, it was his name. It's fine. Yeah, that was his name, it was the character's name.

I might skip a couple of these Bruce Willis and the 6th Sense Somebody really paying attention Understood the assignment there, well done Let's see Chair model from the office That's a deep cut I don't remember that

Cousin Oliver from the Brady Bunch I don't remember that episode There's your Dan Connor by the way From Roseanne Yeah, he died, but then he came back, right? Yeah, that was weird. He came back and now Roseanne's dead. That's weird.

Peebe magic. Yeah, it's very weird. Frank and Bill from The Last of Us. It's a great answer, and it should have been higher on the list, but only one person said it. I think it was great. Yeah. And we'll say, oh, and Jane Margolis, or Margolis from Breaking Bad, the Kristen Redder character that Walter just kind of sat there. Oh, that was rough.

That was such a rough death. Freaking rough. It's all right. She got to be Jennifer, or Jessica Jones. So everything turned out all right for good old Kristen Ritter. Except the first season was awesome. The rest of that show, I could not get through. I didn't enjoy it. I don't know what happened there.

Oh, of Jessica Jones? I think there only was one season. I thought there were two. No, but she was in the Defenders. Was there a second season of Jessica Jones? And I could have sworn. Each of them had a second season. That's right.

Yeah, her second season was rough. Weren't there even three seasons of Jessica Jones? Were there really? I think so, yeah. Yeah, season two and three. No way. Well, I've completely blacked out the second two seasons, apparently. I didn't try three, so I can't speak to it, but two lost me.

One was great. Oh, well, then I think we're coming back to that for couch party then. Oh, boy. Well, there you go. I might veto that one. We'll see how it goes. I mean, like I say, love the first season. Second season, just real bummer.

I don't know if I could watch that again. Who the enemy was in the second season. Do you remember? Because it was the purple man in the first season, and that was great. Tendant does the... He was very good in there. He was really good, yeah.

But I do not remember how they lost me, but they did. Okay. That's going to do it for this. This is good news for everybody, because we got a winner right here. And so much to be written. Whoops, not that. Congratulations.

You're a winner, and that means you get these codes. Brian will have those over to you if he hasn't already, and you'll install them, you'll play them, and you'll thank us every day that you're alive. How's that sound, Ian? That sounds fantastic. Scott, you mind if I plug something real quick before you kick me off? Plug it.

Awesome. So I just went back to doing my comic book podcast, the Comic Timing Podcast. If anybody wants to check out me talking for about two hours, usually with guests or other people that I hang out with, comic timing. comitim.comitim.net. Check it out now before it's too late. See you next time. 10. Well, I only had another thing, but I cut them off.

I know how that feels. I'll bet you do. Not lately, though. I've been keeping you on way too long. I know. Agreed. You and I are, we're getting together this weekend. We're going to talk about bubble-bobble on play retro at 1.30 at 1.30 on Friday. And the reason we're doing that is because that game freaking rules. It's so good. It does. And you guys are going to, and people who have been following all week,

the progress of trying to play a few of these games and the series, we're probably just going to stick with the classic stuff, the original, the arcade, the stuff at the hit in the 80s, because, man, does this series take off and going all kinds of directions, including Puzzle Bumble and, you know, Magic Islands and all kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah, and if you're sitting there in the States going, Puzzle Bobble, what the hell's that?

Oh, you played it. It was called Bust a Move over here for some reason. That's right, yeah. All kinds of stuff. Stupid, stupid name change. They were so chickened names over here. I don't know what their deal was. Anyway, it was the 90s.

What are you going to do? We're going to talk about that at length. 130 Mountain Time at frogpants. TV on Friday. If you would rather get the podcast, that's all available at frogpans.com slash play retro. Brian Dunaway, is there anything else you'd like to say? No, thanks for hanging out on me.

It was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. You know, we'd hug you on the way out the door if we could. Let's do it again. Bye now. Bye now. Bye now. Bye now.

Ah, you hang up on me. See? Can't tell me I hang up. on him too quick anymore. All right, Brian, we're going to take a break when we come back from this break. Tom Merritt will be joining us. So we'll, uh, uh, Randy and Nicole after that for some recommendals. We got to play a song, though, so please do.

We do. This one is a fun indie in the middle here. This comes from, uh, Terrence Fixmer. This is a brand new album from him called The Paradox in Me. Here is Terrence Fixer, uh, Fixmer, Fixmer, Fixmer, harder to say. Um, I think this is instrumental. I was trying to pull up my notes on this and can, completely forgot to. The song is called In Synthesis.

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We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. We're going to do. I'm going to be I'm going to be able to be.

My ex-husband My ex-husband That's a men's loafer It is a uni loafer And we're back with New interstitial music Because that other one also is getting me Take Down notices

So I'm using Skyhawk now I won't get busted for that He made this shit for me So nothing wrong with that at all Anyway, hey Brian Tell me who that was one more time before we get to Tom. Yeah. French producer Terrence Fixmer

has brand new album, The Paradox In Me, released it via Mute and Nova Mute overseas. Big thanks to Mute Records for sending me this one. This is great. Yeah, the song is called In Synthesis, and it's very, very, the whole album is very, very

cool. Nice. Check it out, everybody. Get it where you get it. Get it where you get it. I'm sure there are plenty places where that can be done for you. We want Tom. We do, indeed. He'd want Tom. And good news is, he's here. He's busy training a dog, but we're busy training him. No, I don't know what that means. What? Yeah, you rehabilitate dogs. You train humans. That's right. Keep it straight, everybody. Hey, it's good to have you back. How is it all that going? The dog looks great. Seven is the name, correct? Seven is the name of the dog. Yeah. He's going to be 10 weeks old tomorrow.

Jeez. So he's a puppy. and he's very trainable. He's super smart. But he has a lot of puppy behaviors and they can be exhausting sometimes. Yeah, you know that going in with a puppy. But he's super cute.

He's super smart. And he's exhausting, but wonderful. Oh, I'd love to hear updates on this dog. I've been obviously following me photos and stuff. But he's adorable. If you haven't checked it out, go check it out. It's awesome. Yeah, I've been posting a bunch about him on my own Instagram,

but he has his own now, even though he's underage. It's technically a violation, I guess, of Instagram's terms of service. You can follow Seven the Good Dog on Instagram. Oh, very nice. Seven the good dog. I love it. I mean picked that. I was like, oh, my gosh, that's perfect.

Was seven chosen for seven of nine? Or what's the connection there? What's the nerd? So the main impulse is one of Eileen's favorite songs is seven by Junkuk from BTS. Yeah. And we adopted him. on June 13th, which is the anniversary of the formation

of BTS, so she thought that was appropriate. I love it. Yeah. I support that. Don't get me wrong, but I also liked the implication that we could be like, also seven of nine, and lucky seven and all of that. So yeah, it all works. Well, that's awesome.

Let's get into some tech news. If it's dog related, that's fine too. I don't care. I'll tell you one really quick thing, Tom. because we did trivia when we were in Vegas, went out with James and Svet from Same Sixth Mary and went to their local pub trivia in Boulder City. And you came up because it was because of you that we were able to answer a question

about a certain Austrian-born American actress who was strikingly attractive, but also was a co-inventor of the radio guidance system for torpedoes. And things like that. And thank you for, I think you had talked with us about it while you were in Vegas for TMS, Vegas. Who's the... Did I really?

I don't remember the reading out. Hetty Lamar. Hetty Lamar, really? Whoa. Yeah. I didn't know about that. That's crazy. Like a bombshell actress and guidance system co-inventor for torpedoes.

Yeah. It's like a time division multiplex analysis algorithm that she and her co-inventurement. inventor patented. And a lot of that is the basis for what eventually became Wi-Fi and cell phones and all of that. Thanks for Bluetooth, Teddy Lamar. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And the big poster on everyone's wall. Well, that's great. Tom, let's talk about what's happening in technology today. Has there been anything that we're just like, whoa, tech news, get ready? I'm just putting the finishing touches on my write-up for the Tech Tom newsletter about the mistaken labeling of human-made photos as made by AI on Instagram specifically.

Oh, no. It's going the other way now. Yeah, yeah. So basically what they were trying to do is look at metadata and say, oh, it looks like somebody used AI to generate this. Let's label it so people know, right? Which is a good impulse. They should absolutely do that. but a bunch of human photographers found their stuff labeled with AI, which is, you know, in that world, a damage to their reputation because there's a lot of dispute about photographers using AI and passing off work as their own, even though it probably doesn't happen very often. But, you know, people didn't want other people thinking that's what they were doing. And Petapixel did a great job of breaking down what seems to trigger that label, particularly it's two features.

in Adobe products, generative fill and generative expand. And the key is, it didn't matter how much you use them. So they tried removing a piece of dust on a lens with generative fill. So they deleted the, I'm oversimplifying if you know how this stuff works. But if you, they deleted the dust and then used generative fill to, you know, fill it in so there was no hole there, right? that got tagged as labeled as made with AI because the Adobe tool that does generative fill is AI that added AI records to the metadata and apparently the made with AI filtering system just looks for that metadata. It doesn't look for how much of it was used or anything. It just says, oh, looks like some AI was used made with the AI.

Whereas, oddly, generative remove in an Adobe Lightroom. which is kind of the same thing but faster, right? You're like, oh, there's a bunch of leaves in front of the cat, and you tell Firefly, remove the leaves in front of the cat, and it just gets rid of them. That did not trigger the label because that is in early access and therefore doesn't add the metadata. So it said, again, it was a very simple filter.

It's just looking at the metadata. Also, images generated by stable diffusion don't get labeled for some reason, uh, which is, which is odd. Uh, the upshot of all this is, uh, it's a great impulse to say, let's label things with AI. Uh, I don't think it's a problem if it doesn't catch everyone. Uh, Betapixel noted that you could take a screenshot of something. And even if it says the watermark in the screenshot, it wouldn't get labeled, uh, which you're like, oh, so you can bypass it. Every tool is bypassable. That doesn't bother me so much. As long as it's catching a lot of them. I think it's helpful when you have false positives though, when you're labeling things

that aren't. And when it's because your tool just isn't very sophisticated, I don't think this is ready for rollout yet. Yeah, there's a little bit of everybody tripping over each other right now going on. I think this is a growing pain for this, especially our image generation thing. And it's, so I'm not surprised to hear about this particular situation or any other. I even got, so I put up a joke, a comic that I wrote about somebody who, uh, I'm poking directly fun at people who think that their prompt makes them a professional artist. And you probably saw it. I think I gave you a link or something.

Anyway, I put that up there. All's fine. But somebody on Vero, which is like an art site or art app where it's a lot like Instagram, but just for artists, I put my stuff up there. And a guy accused me of using AI to generate that comic. And he doesn't have any technical way of knowing that. He just thinks I did. It turns out anybody can say anything on the internet to try to get a response from you.

You're absolutely right. So I guess what I'm saying is we are going to see a lot of this bumping into each other, a lot of this tripping over each other, a lot of even the technical side of it, people like stable diffusion not being labeled as AI versus something from Adobe with a single spec removed labeled as AI. Like this is going to get weird. I think it's probably necessary to just sort of figure out where this settles, you know, but it's going to get funky. And it's going to make everybody confirm their bias on whatever side of any of this stuff they're on. And it's going to be kind of a nightmare, but it will end one day. Okay. Yeah.

We'll get there. This two shall pass, right? I'm with you there. I do think that you need to err on the side of letting stuff be unlabeled than air on the side of human stuff being mistakenly labeled. For some reason, that seems like it undermines trust more than the other way. everybody i think expects that people find ways around tools and you won't catch everything uh i think no one really expected human-made stuff to get labeled and it's because it's kind of a lazy filter so i think yeah you know what uh send that one back to the lab uh work on it a little more and and

try to make sure that you're not you know that you're adding in stuff uh that that catches these kinds of mistakes when a simple speck of dust gets removed uh instead of just saying oh is there any evidence that AI was used ever in this. Obviously, there's going to be generative tools used all the time. They're all over Adobe products right now. That said, I think you're right. This is how we work out the kinks, right? You've got to run into these problems. Yeah. And I also think you're right that there's never going to be a catch-off perfect way to not have people circumvent tools. There's too much. Too much DRM is also a thing people don't want. Your goal isn't zero. Your goal is as close to zero as possible. Yeah. And as close to zero pulse positives, I could not agree more. If we can get, you know, that should be the goal. You can tell when people are cheating, but I don't want to accuse people of that who aren't, you know. Well, anyway, there's that and there's more. I promise you that today on the Daily Tech News show. Plenty to talk about. There always is.

Summer's weird, right? All this stuff tends to recede a little bit. Everybody's going on on vacation. There's a lot of just like, I don't know, things dry up a little bit after all those conferences and announcements and events and everything. But don't worry, DTNS is on the case. They will find what you need, and we'll talk about it today and every day over at the Daily Tech News show. Is there anything else people should know about before we cut you loose? Two things.

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That's right. Oh, that guy. Remind me of your story of that guy. You never saw him again, right? You're done. That dude never showed up again. You ever saw that guy? Yeah. That made me laugh yesterday so much. All right. We are going to bring in Randy Deluxe and Nicole Spagnolo for their time to shine here on the podcast. It's the usual Wednesday business, and it starts with this.

Well, what do you recommend? Well, we recommend movies, streaming TV shows, and other stuff you can find on streaming services. And it's usually stuff we like. We try not to give you stuff we don't like, but occasionally we'll warn you. We'll give you a little bit of a, it's not as good as you think it is. Like Jessica Jones, season two and three. Like that. You haven't even seen season three, and I just looked on Rotten Tomatoes, and they've got way, way higher than above average scores.

So I think what they give it for, what they give it for two? Do you have a separate? 82% critic score, 70% or 70% audience scores. Well, I definitely don't, I definitely don't speak for everybody. I may just be a me thing. But that show lost me pretty hard. I think Iron Fist maybe deserves your ire, but not Jessica Jones. I think that show, after looking and getting reminded what those second, third seasons about,

which I completely forgot, me and LaSarge completely forgot about them. They think they were better than you think, better than you remember. All right. Well, I'll have to check it out. It's good to have you both here. Let's start with Nicole. Hi. How are you?

Hi. I'm sorry. I'm so. I'm so caught up in everything You're fine. Oh gosh, you're fine. You're just a busy, you're a busy person. We're having a big charity event at the shop. So we're planning.

We're going to be doing a whole thing on Friday and Saturday. Nice. What's the charity for? Who are we helping? It's called the Purple Heart Project. It's a, it's a organization that if you have physical or emotional PTSD from being in military, Canadian or the U.S., they sponsor these men and women to learn hand-told woodworking and kind of find a sense of calm. So we're doing a whole thing on dovetails and stuff like that.

That's great. That sounds like a really cool thing. Yeah. Really fits the Wood Whisper vibe too. That's awesome. So we're just all over the place. So I do apologize for women. No, no, you're all good. Randy, it's good to have you here as well. How are you? good morning morning stream and is anybody else singing dovetails not me I am I definitely not I have a shirt that has that that says that too with the logo oh really oh that's awesome it was one of his favorite shirts he wore it out completely oh well that's what you do when you like a shirt

yeah and and it is don't we all dream of having a vault filled with gold coins that you can swim in man right oh I want to dive into those I think you'd get a concussion the first time you try diving into them though i think oh you dive real slow you go real slow dive okay it's like fighting in dune you do it real slow like like the comedy in this segment okay cool yeah yeah wow just kidding wow all right the war the war has begun all right hey uh let's get to it uh randy i know you were just in uh up there in canada but i'm sure you had time to to see something so hang on to years. Nicole, you'll be second today. But Brian, you're first. Yeah. Tell us what you got. All right. So this show, I've been teasing about recommending it for some time now and the final

episode of the season, the first season finally dropped yesterday. Tina and I devoured it because while I was gone, she watched the entire series up until the finale. And I got to say, I feel I'm really excited for another season of this. Really, really cool. And I guess we'll listen to the clip where he explains the main character explains what he thinks is going on hypothetical a man of science he is married to the woman of his dreams they have a son and they all have a good life until one night this man he goes to a bar but on the walk home something happens he doesn't make it home When he regains his full presence of mind, everything has changed. Uh, brain tumor, head trauma?

CT scans says no. Maybe it's like some kind of multi-tiered deep fake punking. Within five hours, the entire inside of his house is renovated. And I'm not just saying different pictures on the walls. I'm saying new furniture, new appliances, light switches who move. walls are different colors. No prank could possibly be this complex. And, I mean, what would be the point?

I don't know. It sounds like he's crazy. I'm not crazy. I have no idea what this is. This is Apple TV Plus's Dark Matter. Dark Matter. Oh, that's Joel. What's his name? Edgerton.

I love him. Yeah. I knew the voice was familiar. Sorry, go ahead. Yep, yep. Yeah, Joel Edgerton. and Jennifer Connolly. You don't hear her in that clip because for time I kind of edited out

what she said just to kind of make sure that he gets his whole story out. You also hear Jimmy Simpson, who you know from things like House of Cards. God, was he in? Jimmy Simpson. Yeah. He's in a really memorable episode of Black Mirror. Go on. He is.

He absolutely is. Yeah, anyway, really, really good actor as well. and very compelling in his look. Anyway, the show is about a guy who is an inventor of sorts. He's actually a physics professor at a college, but he's also an inventor and creates a box where you step into the box and then you can come out in a completely different alternate reality. And that much, that's all I'm really going to give you on that

because it's, there's so much more to it. so deep that I want to make sure you're compelled enough to watch it and not spoil anything for you. Incredible, incredible, uh, series as far as like the sci-fi, uh, not really time travel, but alternate, hopping between realities, a really clever way of doing it. Um, it's based on a book by Blake Crouch, who is also the showrunner. So I love it when the showrunner, the person who wrote the book, wrote the novel, is the person who is making sure all the eyes are dotted and the tease are crossed for the TV show that's

based on it. It's well acted and my God, there are some episodes where I was left like, I'm not angry, but impatient for the next episode to see how they followed that up and how they were going to wrap something up. And now you don't have to wait. You can binge the whole damn thing one episode right after another if you have Apple TV. Plus, nine episodes, each episode, of course, about an hour long, typical drama, thriller drama on Apple TV.

And again, Apple TV plus knocking it out of the park with a really good sci-fi show. As far as I'm concerned, they are the best place for sci-fi right now. They are killing it. They're little bits and bops and other streaming services. They're like, oh, yeah, I like three-body problem or I like this other thing or whatever. But everything they do, the science fiction stuff, even if it's not to everyone's taste, it's all good over there. Did you guys watch sugar yet?

not yet yes oh he did yeah that's right holy crap nicol you were not kidding what a yeah what a turn i loved it so much i did too i really did and uh i'm so behind on both of the i need both these shows in my life so definitely gonna watch them uh excellent there are nine episodes luke sightwalker uh we watched the ninth one last night so oh do you think they were less he's he's all capsing me eight episodes eight episodes eight episodes You've missed one, Luke. $2. Yeah, $2. Get in there. Catch up. Go back and rewatch it.

All right. Well, that's great. Go check that out, everybody. Up next we have... Mark Matter Apple TV Plus. We have Nicole, but I don't... Nicole, do I have a clip from you? I just dropped one in the chat. I'm sorry. I was... All right, let me find... Brian, I love it that you do this thing I do, which is when someone writes in all caps, I hear Jerry Seinfeld for some reason. Totally do. It's absolutely...

The right episodes of... We're just playing Luke. Where is your, sorry, I'm finding it. Oh, you put it in our group group thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, hold on. I'm in the wrong place for this. So I'm on a bit of a kick and I finally got around to watching this.

I know this was a recommendal probably a couple years ago. Yeah. I think it was me at the time. I think Brian had watched it as well. It is one of my favorite things. I waited. Oh, my God. I waited so long.

I don't know why, but I did. It's so freaking good. I'm glad you caught up because what a show. Bring it back. Here is a clip from what we are talking about. Here we go. Let me unmute. Here we go.

Did you have any physical or verbal contact with Frankie Peterson? Nope. On March 3th, 2019, did you abduct Frankie Peterson? No. On March 30th, 2019, did you murder Frankie Peterson? I didn't kill that kid, Ralph. Is that it? Yeah. All right.

This is the outsider, isn't it? The outsider is very good. That is the outsider. You heard Jason Bateman, which I did not realize he was the executive producer of this, of this show. This is a novel by Stephen King that was adapted into, what is it, a 10-part mini-series. So there's 10 episodes to it. It is weird. But that's Stephen King, right?

So it is a poor detective story. It's the only way I can explain it. And the clip that you heard is the main investigator trying to figure out who killed this kid. And Jason Bateman is charged with it. And he has proof that he was not even in the town when it happened. But they have tons and tons of evidence, including his DNA, including his fingerprints, that he did do it.

And eyewitnesses. And you're like, what the hell is going on? And video. And video. Yeah. Surveillance video. Yeah. So you get introduced.

Well, actually, it was Mr. Mercedes. You get introduced to Holly, which Stephen King has a whole book called Holly. Yeah. Yeah. She's a character that jumps around between his. various books and she's a she's one of the most interesting characters ever yeah it's she's in it if it bleeds too right i think so yeah did you read that one no but i think she's in it and she's also connected somehow with the dark tower stuff i'd have to go look at the connections she's the main

character in if it bleeds oh is she okay yeah yeah yeah um so i'm so i'm re-reading the dark tower i started the dark tower when i was 16 years old i finished it when you know as he kind of brought those books out as I would devour them. And I was like, it's been so long. I don't know if I remember everything. And so I started doing the audible version of it. And holy crap, I don't remember a damn thing about the series. I'm on book five again.

So I've never read a series before. But I'm so glad I went back to the Dark Tower because I'm just picking up more of it through listening to it versus reading it. And this got me into the mood of Stephen King. And I was like, you know, I haven't watched The Outsider. What a hell that, you know, connects to his universe. And wow, it's hitting the notes that I was looking for. That's cool.

That's so cool. I'm so glad. I want to talk to you offline. Like, Wizard and Glass is my favorite book of all time. My number one favorite book of all time. So good. Book four. Yeah.

Yeah. Book four is something special. It's hard to, hard to even. Yeah, it's not that you need the rest of the series to sort of make it all make sense. But it's, it's so good that book five, Wizards, Wolves of the Kala is just a different version of it. It's just like a retelling. It's like the same story, different place. Yeah. It really is something. When Magnus in the chat says I tried the first Art Tower book on an audio book and I didn't care for it. Me neither. I did not enjoy the purpose. person that read the first book, but it's so short that I just kind of powered through it. And then they change the narrator on book two and book three. And it's a much more enjoyable experience. Well, I think, this is so weird. Everyone always says they don't enjoy the gunslinger. That's what sucked me in. I freaking love the gunslinger. And I know that fits within my type. When I read it, it sucked me in. Yeah, I think it was just the audio is what Nicole says. It was the audio. It was the narrator. But the funny thing is, I think it's the same narrative. writer for book one that is in book five and i'm enjoying him in book five oh really okay i don't understand

that at all so back in 99 i think it was uh some friends of ours uh we're driving to and say you want to come we decide to ride with him and while while he was driving he insisted that we listened to wherever he was in the dark tower series the audio book i don't know where like middle of the book and we're like sucks we have to listen to the middle of book we can't talk while he's driving or was it it was dark tower I could have sworn it was dark tower

and but it was one that was read I think by Stephen King there was a version out there where Stephen King read it Book 3 for sure used to have him I can't remember

if others did that he definitely So maybe it was book 3 and it was just like the most miserable six hours of that driver three hours of that drive or having to listen to that

Oh people in the chat are saying skip one No don't skip one No, I completely agree with Nicole. Do not skip it. Gunslinger's freaking fantastic. You've got to know the relationship between the boy and the Gunslinger. Yeah, I can't speak to the audio stuff because I don't do audiobooks.

They make me fall asleep. But when I read, I don't. And if you're just reading, there's nothing wrong with the Gunslinger. It's fantastic. And it's short. So if you don't like it. I do all my audiobook reading in the car. Right on.

I mean, in the Midwest, you drive everywhere. So that's how I did a fairy tale. which holy crap highly recommend that one that's Stephen King's in that one too you know I'm going to say something a little weird I don't mean this to sound weird but I just thought of this while you were describing all of this the character Holly Gibney played wonderfully in this show by Cynthia Irrivo she's so good you know who she reminded me of when I met her was brainbow bright in Vegas they are they are so similar in just kind of personality you'd have to see it to know what I'm saying anyone who's met Brainbow Bright but

you guys have, I don't know, there's something about these two. Can't, can't separate them now. So that's all I'm going to see. Anyway, yeah, you didn't mention Ben Mendelsohn or Bill Camp or any other amazing actors, Patty Constandine's in this. It's a good solid show. Yeah, it's so good. Recommend it highly. I watched it twice and it's still on Max, I believe. Yeah. Oh, I loved it. I've even read this. I haven't even read this particular book, but I love that. Yeah. Love the show. I, uh, I started to read Holly the book Audible version but it got a little

it got too intense so I had to turn it off Wow if you hadn't if you haven't read much new Stephen King in the last like 20 years the books to read for this are Mr. Mercedes finders keepers and end of watch yeah they're good books they really build out these characters

highly recommend mr. Mercedes is awesome that whole three book arc is so good I've never read Mr. Mercedes highly recommend it is it more of that detective weirdness? It is. It's a detective thing. It's way less. It's more pure detective stuff than it is

anything supernatural, but it's got its connections. It makes me sad the people that discount Stephen King because they can only think of like Kujo or Pet Cemetery. He's fine though. For those of us who get hooked

on an author and then read a lot, he's got too many books. And by the 20th one, you will have hit some stinkers you know yeah yeah they're not all amazing but uh you know the good stuff is the good stuff is a lot for me too yeah some great books and then some like all right um might might be done with this one yeah what would you consider a stinker for stephen king randy rose matter yeah hold on no i love rose matter didn't like it oh i loved it um i really a lot of people don't like insomniac but i love that one i love that one i love it i love them all i love them all

bio cow the dome is great you're insane the dome is awesome you guys are crazy the tv show the tv show was rough bio cow but apparently the book's supposed to be really good book is awesome the tv show was too shiny it was too much of a network show they didn't know what they were doing but the dome is great man or is it under the dome it is under the i just feel like he has this he has this overarching world that we're all just trying to piece together through all these books you know so I can think of two books that I didn't finish by Stephen King because I just like wasn't connecting with it. One was Sell and the other was the girl who loved Tom Gordon. Sell is very throwaway, but I really enjoyed it.

It was a big, it was a big crunchy zombie novel and I realized that it's not. No one's ever, I'm never going to put this on top tier king, but I think sells a good time. If you just are looking for a, you know, blow through it, have a good zombie time. You'll have a good time. It's all right. The girl who loved Tom Gordon, I read in a single sitting when I was stuck in an airport for 12 hours waiting on standby the entire day. And I devoured that book. 12 hours in a hotel or in a airport.

In the airport for 12. It was in Richmond, Virginia. I was stuck. That's horrendous. Yeah. That sounds really bad. No offense to Richmond or Virginia. I'm sure you guys are lovely people.

But I don't want to be in your airport for 12 hours, all right? All right, well, let's move on down the line here to Randy. Randy, you got a clip. You got an explanation for your clip? Yeah, let's come back to Apple TV, please. All right. This is a British comedy that started a few years ago. I gave you a clip from the very first scene in the very first episode.

And it is a married couple on a bus. All right. Here we go. I'm so tired. It's 1035 and I'm tired Why'd it say Thursday Jason, why'd my phone say it's Thursday? I mean, it's Thursday

I thought it was Wednesday Well, it's not, no Oh shit Thursday, what? What? Well, I ovulated on Wednesday That was the window, Monday to Wednesday was the window The window is shutting, Jason Well, how quickly?

Quickly, why don't you tell me it was Thursday? Well, if I get telling you what day at a week it was I just assume you know days. I'm less fertile now. Listen, totally feeling. Look, a couple of minutes isn't going to make a difference, is it? We are miles away from home, and every hour the chances get down, like a lot. For everyone's security, he doesn't want to drive at anything suspicious.

What are you doing? We're doing it now. We can't. No one's watching. This is trying. trying trying is a is a comedy as you could hear uh it centers almost exclusively on this married couple uh played by esther smith and raf spall who are a real life married couple however they did not meet and get married until after the first season of this show um rife spall and esther

smith have incredible chemistry uh the show was created by a fellow named andy walton And it now just released their fourth season. These are quick seasons. These are like eight episode seasons. There's a total of 31 episodes now. But I'm just asking you to watch the first season because it's a legend. It is so good. Yeah.

I thought I might have recommend this myself. I went back. I couldn't find it. But my God, this show is so sweet and delightful. The two characters, you fall in love with them as they fall in love with each other. It's, it's, uh, it's so good. I thought this guy's name looked familiar. He wrote Life of Pie, the Brave Spall guy. Um, that's crazy because he's also in like hot fuzz and a bunch of British stuff and the big short he was in, but he wrote Life of Pie. Like, that's just

really nuts to me. Anyway, the one with the big CGI Tiger, everybody in the chat, if you don't know what I'm talking about. Everyone involved in this show really gets comedy, including, and this is really, really weird. Emelda Staunton is in the first two seasons of this show. She's like a social worker who's trying to help them through. It's called trying because they're trying to have a kid. And Emelda Staunton, like we're talking about the queen from the crown and we're talking about like one of the greatest, if not the greatest movie villains of all time in a freaking umbrage from the Harry Potter movies. She has no business

being here. She's so fun and such a different side of her than you've ever seen. It's just wonderful. All right. I don't know why this is so new to me. I hadn't even heard of this. It's a BBC thing I assume was sort of imported over here. Who did you say had it? Who's the Apple TV Plus?

Oh, that's an original? Okay. I think it's an original. Damn. Yeah, Melda Staunton is great in this. I mean, again, yeah, couldn't be more diametrically opposed to umbrage right and it's just it's just like this is filling a gap in my uh in my viewing of comedy that was created by fleabag fleabag came along and i didn't know i needed something fleab like at all times in my life of course you can just rewatch fleabag but there's only so

many times right you have to find other stuff this is perfectly in that space it's like if fleabag wasn't a weird single woman and was fleabag was a married couple you know what i'm saying right yeah yeah you know it's crazy this is crazy the guy that directed all these episodes and wrote this whole thing and created it andy walton his first gig of any kind riding or otherwise was he wrote an episode of the amazing world of gumball the the cartoon network show you you can tell when you watch this and you should watch at least a little bit of trying to find out if you like it i think that's great though you go from that to like a few other gigs and then bam you got your own series 31 episodes it's like massive that's awesome there is connective tissue here and it's and it's among a lot of shows that have this real heart yeah and and that's what i was looking for so i'm i'm really really glad like i really hadn't heard of this show until a couple of months ago the fourth season's coming out and they started advertising it really hard at least i was getting ads on like youtube for this show and the ads were touting the critical reception it's like look at this show is like one of the highest rated shows on

apple tv like you've never heard of it i'm like yeah i've never heard of it i need to watch this wow and sure enough sorry chat just turned me on to this raf spall your actor again his son of timothy spall the guy that played the the the harry potter rat dude or the mouse guy whatever it was i can't remember his name hold on oh peterreigrew was it yeah that's right Timothy Spall. Yeah, it's the guy I'm thinking of. He was, let's see, he was in Sweeney Todd, played Beatle in that. He, that guy's awesome, but also really weird looking. This is a handsome young man, this guy, the new guy, the son. You will love these two main characters. Like I say, there's no wonder why they got married, like in real life. They have chemistry that goes on forever. They really do. Yeah. That's great. Scott, you mentioned Life of Pie. Did you already correct that he played the writer in the movie? Oh, is that why it says writer?

He didn't write the book. He played the writer that's recounting the story in Life of Pie. Oh, my bad then. I realize, I realize now my mistake. It says, on IMDB, it says Writer, Life of Pie. So that's the character, the writer. The role is writer.

Oh, shit. We just started listening to Life of Pie on Audubon. Oh, really? cool. Yeah, because it was based on a book, so I don't know why he would be. Yeah, by Engle or Engley. No, not Angley. Angley, Engley directed the film. Yeah, Jan Martel wrote the book. Yes, I believe

that is. Yeah, Jan Martel and then David McGee did the screenplay. Well, anyway, fantastic. I want to see this thing. Randy, sounds awesome. You should watch trying. And Nicole, that, I think Life of Pie, the audiobook is read by I'm forgetting his name, but I'm wondering

if you're loving the reader, the actor. we're enjoying it so far Jeff Woodman He hasn't complained yet Awesome No complaints yet That's good

No complaints is no complaints It's a deep I mean it's a deep story So and there's like a big author's note In the front of the book Which I think really captured them Nice I decided to

I decided to check out the Dune audio book The newer one The newer one is read by Simon Vance And like 17 other people people. Oh, wow. And it's so good. Simon Vance is perfect for this 950-page mammoth. How long is it? I highly recommend this thing. It's huge, dude. 24 hours, I want to say. Yeah. Yeah, it's big. That does not surprise me. All right. Here is mine. This is a Netflix show. So sorry, Apple TV. We're veering away from you for a moment. And we're going to

talk about a little thing you got going on. And boy, was I pleasantly surprised by this. I'll say before I play the clip, this is the same people who made it, but this is based on a film of the same name, and they made a series out of it, and I finally watched it, and I loved it. Here is the clip. Permit me to introduce you to Princess Roseanne. Hello, Rosie.

Eddie. Mercy, Eddie. Your Grace, your highness. We used to spend Sammers at Horstead Manor when I was a little girl. Long time ago. I should have known. The small world it is. Princess Rosanne is a direct descendant of King Leopold III.

She's 11th in line to the Belgian throne. Last time I heard it was 12. Who did we lose, Rosie? Daddy fell off his horse. Oh. Don't say you sorry, Eddie. I know you never liked him. He had his merits.

Principal one being you. All right. I picked a very hoity-toity scene to record. Okay. Yes, you did. Because otherwise the show is, uh, pretty violent pretty crazy edited like nuts uh it is the gentleman on netflix it is a how many episodes this thing get eight looks like eight total episodes i hope there's more coming they leave it

in a way that seems like they should it did well for them it reviewed really well so i think it's coming back but this is the gentleman originally created by guy richie he directed the film and a bunch of these episodes um and help co-write it with theo james and some others or not theo james um can't remember the other writer but anyway theo james read you read you Yeah, that's correct. And Theo James is your main actor. He plays Eddie Horniman. Your other main characters are this Kyah Skoldario.

I'm not sure I'm saying her name right. She plays Susie Glass. The Glass family in general is pretty crazy. And you get a couple of, like, Guy Ritchie regulars in here. So Vinny Jones shows up as a character named Jeff, who is like the groundskeeper of this castle. If you don't know who Vinny Jones is, look him up. You'll know him immediately from like all the old Ritchie movies. the guy's awesome uh also ray winstone's in this i could watch that guy read a phone book i freaking

love him and you heard in the clip there the voice of young carlo espizito it's a smaller role and he's in everything these days i know like just turn on some show and there's there's freaking guest friend hanging out it's just what he does great agent that guy he really does um either that or just take whatever i don't know but one way or the other that guy is is awesome and he's great in this plays a character named stanley johnston it's a relatively small role but um an important one and it is so freaking good and I love the gentleman the movie I was already a fan I think I recommended this a couple of years ago 2019 it came out probably saw it in 2021 or something um this came out this year and is all out uh netflix course they just put it all out and it is uh if you okay so here's who

will want to watch this if you like british gangster films of any kind you're going to like this if you like previous guy richie movies especially his british gangster films then you'll love this. But there's also a third thing, which is people who like to get a mystery that is constantly swerving around itself, meaning it's like you think you've got it figured out this episode. And the next one, something will be introduced and you question everything you thought about the previous one. The movie was like that too. The movie was all about, you know, kind of an overarching mystery. But the mystery is just packed with, you know, drug deals and underworld crime in Britain and trying to save, you know,

fancy people's names from being drug through the dirt while doing some real dirt. That's a good way to pick it. There's a character in here called Blanket, played by Logan Dean. It's a very small character, but I absolutely, I should say small role. He's a gigantic character, but he's really fun to watch. And there's a character named Jimmy Chang, played by Michael Vue, who is unforgettable in his weird little role. I loved every second of it.

I binged it so hard, I could barely breathe when I was done. And if you don't like violence and you don't like swearing and you don't like that sort of thing, maybe pass this one. Because it's all those things. It's a Guy Ritchie product after all.

Yeah, exactly. If you're not familiar with Guy Ritchie's level of violence, then this would be a... Yeah, this is a lot more. This is not his Sherlock Holmes or his Aladdin remake or live-action remake. This is definitely more his lockstock smoking barrels business, his his uh you know that that era of stuff for him and it's rad so check it out available now

all episodes the gentleman on the question for you yeah just want to ask the panel is giancarlo esposito overexposed at this point a little bit just a time really it just feels like he's in everything it's just like my problem is he's kind of the same guy and everything is my only problem like i would i would love a little more diversity and the thing is i think Brian saw something you talked about last week again the one that you could watch in any order I think that's probably Yeah he's probably very different in that

But the guy he is in the boys Is the guy he is here kind of Like he's just sort of I don't know he's a guy in a suit Financier kind of Yeah and he shows up his nose is a little high His suit is perfectly made He's always up to no good

Like it's just kind of always that guy And it's fine I would have said you know 10 years ago maybe or five years ago Or whatever it was when he was he was just cast on once upon a time he was still i think gus fring on breaking bad he had a couple other things but lately i feel like he's he's that that uh his exposure has waned um okay but maybe not maybe you guys are seeing more stuff right now but i am i it's because time is compressed like i feel like he was just in the mandolarian and it was like three years yeah exactly yeah i mean he

had uh if you don't if you stop at harley quinn in twenty twenty four he has had one two three four five major roles television and film he's got one he's got seven stuff in the in the in the cooker including maxine which i think just opened this week um he's in captain america brave new world coming up he's in a bunch of stuff he's just so it's nothing wrong with it he's busy yeah i just uh he must not be in things i'm seeing i guess is what i'm saying because i i don't feel like i'm getting over exposed to him but like you said you're you're watching these things apparently that he's in this year that that i'm missing so Yeah. Well, highly recommend this one. It's fantastic. And he's not even the main dude. So it's just, it's not really overexposure. It's just more exposure, I suppose.

All right. The one thing, the one character you might drive everybody nuts is the brother who played, the character Freddie, played by Daniel Ings. Man, you want to kick his ass. Just every time you see him. You just want to beat him up and throw him out the car. Just so, and that's, I guess to his credit, he's playing the role really well. But, boy, Freddie, freaking Freddie. I just want to stop Freddy. This show should be called Stop Freddy. That's what it should be called. Because every piece of trouble everyone gets into, it's freaking Freddy's fault. I swear. Anyway.

Another actor who was in a memorable episode of Black Mirror that was Smithereens. He was in that one. Well, there you go. These guys are all, I don't know. I feel like they, you know, he'd be a great James Bond, Theo James. That guy'd be girls. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And this show is very good at his. potential bondness. You can just feel it. I'm not, I don't think it'll happen. I mean, they already chose somebody, right? I think, but. I don't know if they have.

Nobody's been announced yet. I thought they picked the kick-ass kid. No? Didn't that happen? Did they? I didn't read that. He's older now and he's like British and big and buff and I can't remember what the deal was. New Bond.

I thought they did. I thought there was something, but maybe I maybe, oh, here it is. The offer to portray bond has been extended to Taylor Johnson. But I don't think. Aaron Taylor Johnson, new James Bond. Here's everything we know says variety. But I don't know what that means. Yeah.

Don't know if he's accepted it or what the deal is. Productions eagerly awaiting his response to kickstart production on a new film or Eon Productions is eagerly waiting his response. He's a good looking dude. Yeah. He could play Bond. He's rugged. You know, he's got the look.

But yeah, if they ran out, if that fell apart for any reason, call Theo James. That guy would fit right in. and if you want if you need more theo james watch the second season of the white lotus that's that's oh that's where i saw him that's right good good pick i haven't watched any of the divergent stuff that that he was in so i was trying to think what i've seen him in so that's probably i'm sure that's it i want to sack the divergent series like the first three movies let's do it let's do it are there more than three is that all is there did they keep going the first three how many yeah exactly it feels like there's like five or six i don't know

a six like they're oh no you're right there are more but i think they changed i don't know it's kind of like the new the upcoming uh hunger games prequel i think they did stuff like that or i'm always about the first three too like for our purposes right like i would watch the first three hunger games with you i'd watch the first three maze runners with you there might only be three maze runners for all i know i'm just saying that's what i would do yeah i haven't seen any of these so i'd be down let's do it sure uh well there you go that That and all other things that we talked about today will be up on quicktms.l. They're already there.

So if you went there and you click those links, you'd be off to the races, as it were. Nicole, is there any way for people to support this, this thing? You guys are doing this. What am I trying to say? This charity. Purple Heart Project. Yeah. Yeah, if you just look at Purple Heart Project, you'll be able to find kind of the story and how to donate directly to it. Sorry, Mark. Mark's recording. video and he heard me talking. Mark.

Mark. Nicole, he'd yell. Yeah. Uh, here it is. Purple Heart Project. The Purple Heart Project.org. It is a true 501c, non-profit, uh, and all the money that they raise, um, goes to support combat wounded veterans.

So, um, we plan on doing a live event Saturday night. So if you happen to be on YouTube, um, 7. 7 p.m. Central, we're going to be raising some money online as well for the charity. Awesome. Very cool. Go, yeah, go check it out, you guys. Once again, that is the Purple Heart Project.org.

And check out the Wood Whisper in general. Hey, Randy, what are we, what's the film sack this weekend? Oh, we're talking about soundtrack movies this weekend. We have a roundtable episode for everyone. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. We already recorded it, so I suppose we already looked forward to it. Yeah. It's just such a, it's such a fun subject. I love this subject. Like, we, we could have talked about this for two, two and a half hours. Yep. And sure. Everybody's got their favorites too. Yeah, it's really good. You guys will enjoy it. So check that out. That'll be on Sunday. That goes us live and we'll be available on all the usual feeds. Thank you both so much. I want to say to people who listen to FilmSack, if you haven't watched Repo Man, watch it. It's going to drop off the streaming in a few days. Watch your repo man as soon as possible.

Three or four days. I seriously thought you were going to hang up. on yourself halfway through that Randy but good job no he's hanging in there also I think that that movie is really weird and should see be seen at least once by everybody one time it is it's just amazing that more people haven't seen it okay bye okay bye now I'm like I'm people are cutting themselves off I ain't doing it I know I know no I was this

Randy began that like usually says oh yes and I want to make sure I see yeah it did feel like we were going down that path but he surprised us all thanks Randy you're like Santa Claus on a Sunday morning that's it for today Why do I have Dan up? Oh, because I clicked tabs. We're done. That's the show.

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The only thing you'll be missing is the song Brian's about to play, and then you won't be missing it. So Brian played it. You won't miss it at all. Yeah. Dr. Talbert wrote in. We love Jerry. On June 27. that's tomorrow, I will be celebrating my

penultimate birthday before what many consider middle age, the mythical 44. Although my musical tastes are wide reaching, our recent conversation with Dan about perfect albums had me re-listening to the entirety of Houses of the Holy, which includes one of my favorite Led Zeppelin

songs. I also listen to Dark Side of the Moon and the Wall, so I've been in a very classic rock mood lately. No, we've never been in person. We've absolutely had multiple conversations that make me feel like I've known you guys my whole life, and I'm proud to call you guys my friends. Keep up the great work building amazing community and know that I will be available to respond whenever I am paged. Han the solo, Jerry. All right, Jerry, sorry, dude. Happy birthday.

That's just where we're at. Okay. That's right. Exactly. Your favorite song from House of the Holy is Over the Hills and Far Away. How about a version that Gretchen Wilson released back in 2013? Boy, you want to talk about amazing rock and roll voices. Gretchen Wilson is right up there. was called under the covers, but I'm not going to falter for that. Came on 2013 includes this cover of Led Zeppelin's Over the Hills and Far Away. See you guys tomorrow. You know, I'm going to be able to be. Hey, baby, you've got the love I need.

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