The Morning Stream - TMS 2670: Puke-a-chu

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

So-de-licious. Hairy Metal with Dunaway. Tomorrow we Celebrate FREEDOM... Freedom from TMS. Rah! Rah! Wrong team! The Cracks in Tina. Well Pat my Cheese steak. Certified Companions Let It Rip. F Minor... Bombs. Tom's got the Vim. killer cords from outer space. Van batting for the other team. Rat-a-too-tees. Sorry Canada. Soda bubbles are devil's farts. They had hair and were a band. Dilated Anus and Euphoric Recommentals and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Coming up on the morning stream, so delicious. Harry Metal with Dunaway. Tomorrow we celebrate freedom. Freedom from TMS. Raw, raw, wrong team. The cracks in Tina. Well, pat my cheese steak. Certified companions, let it rip.
Starting point is 00:00:52 F minor bombs. Tom's got the Vim. Killer chords from outer space. Vann, battling for the other team. Ratatutis. Sorry, Canada. So the bubbles are the devil's fart. They had hair and were a band.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Dilated anus and euphoric recommendals and more on this episode of the morning stream. Is something wrong? It's nothing. More importantly, is jackass all right? Oh! I forgot how much old lady stink.
Starting point is 00:01:24 The morning stream, I must break you. Hello, everybody, welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for July 3rd, 2024. That's important because tomorrow is when all those dumb fireworks ruin your night. Yes, right. You know, get ready for that. We forgot to say happy Canada Day to the Canadian yesterday, by the way. Oh, right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Sorry, you guys. We love you. We hope you're great up there. That's right. Actually, Monday was, yeah. Oh, was it Monday? Oh, shit. We missed it.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We missed it by the end of the day. We missed it for two days. We missed Happy Canada Day. Well, happy, you know, I don't know what, I don't know how they, what they do up there when they celebrate. Do you guys, like, do the fireworks and stuff? Or is it just, I don't know. It's just a bunch of everybody piles into the nearest Tim Hortons and then they all go out for Poutine later. Oh, fantastic. That sounds actually great. I prefer that.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It kind of does. Yeah, nothing wrong with any of that. All right. Well, we love you and we want you to be safe up there. And when we do dumb shit down here, don't worry too much about us, okay? It'll all be okay. We're not going to come up there and cause any trouble. All right. If anything, it'll be you coming down here to calm us down. All right. So anyway, we hope we wish you the best. All right. I had a funny thing happened yesterday. I went to Van's Little League T-ball game. He's been playing T-ball, so every Tuesday there's a game. And, man, I love yesterday's schedule. The game wasn't until
Starting point is 00:03:03 7.30 at night. And that was great because even though the kids all have bedtimes at like 8.30 and not just these kids, like every kid there, it's still sunny but not hot anymore. Long shadows. Beautiful. It's just my favorite time
Starting point is 00:03:19 of day. Love this time of year, yeah. Yeah, and it's so great. And so we're laying on the grass and we swung by swig people know what that is if you're a local oh yeah that's your drinks the the fast food store that only has drinks that's right they're so big here the guy the people the couple that founded that thing are freaking billionaires they made so much money why don't we get me in colorado it's the craziest things because it feels like we should get that uh we should get that here it's it's crazy they're probably heading there but uh them and fizz and there's another one called
Starting point is 00:03:52 you have competing drink only oh yeah yeah yeah oh bad it's really it's getting hairy here what was the there's another one um ah shit what's it called i can't think of it the thing called the the the pop shop here in denver but it was really just you buy you you uh you go get it like a 24 tray fill it with glass bottles of pop the all the flavors that you want black cherry soda or or uh the salter or whatever colas and then you take You drink them. You put the glasses back in that 24 tray. You take them back in and then you get a discount on your next 24, which, you know. Yeah. It's a good deal. Well, not really a similar thing because you're not drinking them there or buying a drink to drink right away. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, you just, this is mostly, you can go in in order, but you can, it's mostly drive-ups and it's real simple, inexpensive. They make crazy combinations of stuff. Put real fruit in there if you want it. People in the chat are like Mormon nonsense. What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything? They just look it in there just because it's, you know, just because it's Utah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Oh, yeah, it must be Mormon nonsense. Yeah, it's a weird thing to say. But anyway, so we go there. I get my big sugar-free. I didn't do any caffeine because I was like, I don't want to be up all night. And I don't remember what I got. It was good, though. Had mango and some kind of coconut flavor or something.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And took one for Taylor. Met him up. Got there. Got to the T-ball game. And this year, I wish I had pictures to show. And I should have taken a picture of this interaction. Didn't think of it at the time. I'm mad at myself.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I'll try to get it next time. But our team, their jerseys, Van's little jersey, is the brightest yellow. Think of a, do I have a highlighter? You know that highlighter yellow? You know what I'm talking about? Just the brightest. Mario box yellow here? Yes, that.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Just the brightest yellow. So all these little kids and their little shirts are just like bra, just like the brightest yellow. And then the other team are wearing these really dark. ones that don't look anything like it. And so, Van's so funny. He doesn't really, he loves the social interaction of this. He loves that all these kids are around and they're all, whether he knows him or not, they're his friends.
Starting point is 00:06:04 He's just a really friendly kid. So he's always going, that's my dad over there. And do you like Transformers? And, you know, he's just this kind of kid. That's great. It's pretty great. And we love him for it. But here's the funny bit.
Starting point is 00:06:17 At the end of this game, the game's over. And they teach the kids to huddle up. in their little teams and go ra ra ra for the other team or whatever and throw their hands in the air what's that called i don't know what that's called it's a good sportsmanship thing i don't know yeah exactly right like uh like everybody is a participant kind of figure yeah whatever that whatever that thing is anyway they get into it so they're supposed to go off into the little huddled masses and do it so you got the the highlighter mass which is all these yellow yellow shirted kids doing it and then i look over at the other team and they're all these dark colored kids but one bright yellow kid
Starting point is 00:06:51 in the circle and I realize oh shit that's van it's van so he's over there hand in the circle going yeah rah rah and he's in the wrong he's on the wrong team yeah oh I love that oh my gosh so what I said to Kim and everybody I go it's like a yellow highlighter and a mug full of sharpies and it really did look that way it's like anyone see my sharpie yeah it's it or that my highlighter it's in that mug full of sharpies over there yeah you can't miss it it sticks out like a sore thumb oh it's so funny. He just is, and he doesn't understand any of the rules. He's just running, uh, all that stuff. Amish overlord. That's some harsh shit. Can I, can I dispel another rumor? Here goes. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. He says, isn't it, he's still talking about swag in the drink places. Oh, okay. Isn't it also because only in
Starting point is 00:07:40 recent times LDS leadership said soda is okay? That is horses shit. You could always drink soda. That's never been a thing. That's not a thing. That's never been a thing. Rest easy tonight. Put your head on your pillow and rest easy tonight knowing this. That that's never been a thing. So does bad because the bubbles come from below like the devil. Yeah, I hate.
Starting point is 00:08:08 There's a few things I hate more or less than misinformation about where I live. It drives me up a tree. Sure. Up a tree. I thought everybody had multiple lives where you live. Isn't that, you know. that and Brian we all have horns under our hats and um what else we uh you know magical underwear and uh all that stuff yeah y'all are y'all just need to just relax uh anyway so
Starting point is 00:08:34 the point is why am i looking at the chat i know better than this all right shut yeah don't do it exactly that's it's a bunch of distracting distracting distracting bunch of freaks yeah yeah truly um anyway it was really fun he won the game but he doesn't even know that he won the game he doesn't know that's great because he didn't know the rules are superfluous to him they mean nothing it's just a social interaction it's it's a time to go and hang out with a bunch of other kids and run around and play and you mentioned before that he's just like the the best sportsmanship kid ever right like helping other kids up oh yeah all the time you know like asking if they're okay if they get knocked over or whatever to a fault when it was soccer they were scoring goals while he was trying to help people
Starting point is 00:09:15 like he'll he's he's not he just has a he has a purity to him that is actually really really great but also it makes me worry because he'll talk to anybody like yeah with the other coach the coach on the other team at one point he's on third base standing there waiting to run having a full conversation with that coach just turned around to him going do you like dinosaurs yeah do you like that that kind of stuff right and so i i have these horrible scenarios in my hair where somebody some stranger comes up to him and says hey do you like dinosaurs and he would go i love dinosaurs let's get in your white van and let's go see some dinosaurs your windowless panel van you know i think i'm sure it's just the fact that all right i know i'm in a safe place here that's it's soccer my my grandparents are right there all these other kids all these other people here to make me safe i'm sure he's like you know if he was unattended for a second while while somebody was looking at a uh a fancy jacket uh so he wouldn't just run off with a stranger I'm sure he knows.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He knows. He knows. I hope so. I mean, we tell him. We teach him when I say we, his parents, and we back that up and all that. But, you know, there are days where I think he just, I envy it. He lives in a cartoon world. He's so chill.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And everything's wonderful. Nothing's bad yet. And I think this was me at his age. I was the same. I was like, the world is just a big gumball. And we're all on it. And it's great. And it's full of chocolate syrup.
Starting point is 00:10:44 and happy faces, and then you get older, about junior high-ish, and it all goes to shit. You start seeing the cracks in the patina. Yeah, and then you get really jaded, you know? Or you can, and I don't want that for him. I want him to be happy all the time, but, yeah. What does it say about me, by the way, that my first go-to for what would leave a child unattended
Starting point is 00:11:06 is being distracted by a fancy jacket? I don't know. I don't know. Wait, wait, wait, that's dissecting. Let's dissect it for a second. So Brian. I'm picturing like being in a, you know, here's my, here is exactly what I'm visualizing. Scott and Kim have van.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They're going to the mall. Ooh, box lunch. Do you have box lunch stores in? Yeah. Yeah. You go in there and it's like, oh, check out this cool Starcraft jacket. It's really fancy. And that's when.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And that's when they get you. That's how they get you. That's when they take van because he's looking at a fancy jacket. jacket i'm trying to think if i was a kid what kind of jacket would really get me you know like something with star war shit on it maybe or yeah yeah for sure i don't know somebody shows up with like a optimist prime on the back okay i can see it now i can see it or uh oh i'm not even i'm not even going to invoke it i'm not going to invoke the uh the resetting of the uh the clock yeah i'm not going to say well i'll do it for you by putting a graphic up here we go
Starting point is 00:12:12 there you go chat whoops i lost it I guess is mentioning the resetting of the clock is just the same as resetting the clock. Yeah, it's tantamount to the entire thing. So we just put it up. All right. Hey, Brian, about you doing VR headsetting while you're on a workout bike. Yeah, yeah, let me hear about this. We got a call from.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I didn't end up doing it, but I'd love to hear somebody's take on it. Yeah, here's their hot take. This is Dave and Philly. And here's what he has to say. You got in chat room, you got any stereotypes about Philadelphia? You'd like to get out of your system real quick before we play this call? You want to get those? Far too many places claiming to be the best cheese steak.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Okay, cool. All right. We all know it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, um, shoot, what's the name of it? It's Joe's or whether it's, it's a Pats. Pats. Is that the place that always claims it or they are the best? No, that's the place to go is Pats. I think it's Pats.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Anyway, that sounds so good right now. It does, yeah, see? We just eat food on this show. We just need to eat a really huge breakfast before we do TMA. I agree. I ate nothing today, so this is going to be... I mean, I got these grubs over here. I could just hork these down.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Oh, there you go. Yeah, some of the scorpions left. Yeah, we still haven't eaten them because we chickened out on Monday. We're doing them next week now, though. They're still in the bag. Okay, good. Gross. A whatnot says not pats. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Oh, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Tell me later which Philly Cheese steak. Yins finds to be the best. Yeah. Also, I agree with Claire. one's yin's like it's uh it's always sunny is one of the greatest shows of all time so there's that all right dave and philly has this to say hey squats and biceps this is dave from philly aka a really
Starting point is 00:13:55 hoopy fruit and i was thinking about uh brian's problem with using the vr headset in uh in the chin and i think i came up with a solution people love gimmicks and the only reason that it's weird that you would be wearing it right now is because nobody else is wearing it see me need to start a gym like goat yoga or something like that you need to start a gym where the gimmick is that everybody wears a headset and then it'll go viral and people have a fear of missing out so they'll want to go and they'll start wearing it in every gym and before you know it if you're not wearing a headset in a gym you'll be the weird guy hope that helps take care you know what he's got he's that's smart social engineering right have a have a thing that uh you know you plug into on
Starting point is 00:14:43 your treadmill or your bike that keeps your headset charged, all that stuff. And you could even, like, link into their news or whatever, or you're out in space with all the other people on their spin bikes floating around on your little space jet ski-looking things. Yeah. Sign me up. Sign me up for that reality. That sounds all right. Yeah. Your Hockman Rocket Cycles, which, why did the Hockman have? have rocket cycles in Flash Gordon when they have freaking wings. I know. That didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Those guys could fly. So what was the deal there? Yeah. Those guys. Oh, look who it is. Show us your butthole. Oh, I never hear her meow. Let's hear that again.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Come on, Anora. Let it loose. Talk again. You want to say anything again? Come on, you're a certified companion. Let it rip. Well, anyway. She's got nothing.
Starting point is 00:15:40 She's got nothing. Um, also, uh, you got something going on. What's the going on with David Luzator? You mentioned this the other day, but we don't have a lot of details. So share it out. Yeah. So, uh, 2 p.m. on Saturday here in Denver at Fan Expo, which is what they changed the name to from Denver Comic Con. Uh, David is going to be doing a game show called as seen on TV. It is a three person, uh, interactive comedy game show where the audience even plays a little bit and, uh, uh, uh, three, uh, victims on stage, uh, uh, answer TV. TV. trivia questions about TV shows and I'm going to be one of those TV or one of those contestants. I'm going to be one of those TV shows, Scott. All right. I'm going to be one of those contestants. And here's
Starting point is 00:16:21 here is what I'm 100% worried about. We put David Lousader. So David Lousader if you don't know, was a winner on America's Next Stop podcaster. He won the season that he played in. But we put him through hell
Starting point is 00:16:40 that season. We made him do horrible you know like stupid commercials and do a interview podcast and do this and do that and Bobby Franks, yes Bobby Frank says he was my mortal enemy. I know that was such a stunning upset right there.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But I'm worried that David is going to use this as an opportunity to get revenge on me that he's basically going to say, so Brian, do you remember making me edit this horrible audio file that you and Hammond created with this interview that had a bunch of ums and blender noises and airplanes flying overhead and da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Sure, sure. Anyway, that's what I'm a little bit worried about. But anyway, if you're going to be in Denver at Fan Expo on Saturday at 2 p.m., please come find us as seen on TV. I don't know which hall it's going to be in, which area it's going to be in, but but I'll be there and there you go. Does it make sense that we went ahead and everyone
Starting point is 00:17:45 capitulated to what San Diego wanted which is taking off the Comic-Con name? Yeah, getting rid of the Comic-Con name because they wanted to keep it. Okay, fine. But then did everyone all together say let's all call ours Fan Expo now we have the same problem. We're just calling, everyone
Starting point is 00:18:01 calls it Fan Expo now. Do they really? So is it Fan Expo everywhere else? Well, it is here, it is there. It is in Phoenix. I wonder if you're, if Utah and Colorado had some sort of, you know, they were operating with the same kind of management team or group and so. Oh, that could be.
Starting point is 00:18:21 When we set out Fan Expo, then we kind of all agreed upon doing Fan Expo. That could be. I'll bet you Kevin knows he's in the chat somewhere. KT Data probably knows the answer to this because he's a little closer to that stuff. But are they? Oh, are they're not. Oh, no, they're not the same.
Starting point is 00:18:36 No, he says they're not the same. same company really okay and they have a fan expo in toronto i know phoenix i think phoes there's that so fan expo hq.com does this list which how come comic con can stay comic con in new york how'd they get that done yeah i don't know because at new york doesn't take no shit and new york's like screw you there we go so events fan expo events denver chicago canada edmonton dallas san francisco Orlando, Portland, Norlands, Vancouver, Toronto, Cleveland, Dallas, Philadelphia,
Starting point is 00:19:12 Calgary, and Boston are all are all part of the Fan Expo group or FanEx. Or they call themselves that. They're not the same group, though, right? They're the same. These are all the same group. I'm on the web page for FanExpoHQ.com.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Got it is. Now, yours is an EXPO, right? Like it's just FanX or something there in? Good question. Yeah, I guess it is just F-A-N-X. I know it means. means fan expo, but yeah, you're right. Fanx is just X. Sal Lake Pop Culture and Comic Convention. Remember Geeks? Remember the
Starting point is 00:19:44 I remember that? I remember that. Yeah. I flew out there and we went and saw Real Steel and we had a panel and that's right. You know what I remember from Real Steel? Two things. One, I like that movie and no one can tell me different. And two, the music in it, there's a song by a, oh, what would you call his genre? I guess folk music. I guess. Anyway, I can't even remember his name, but there's a song where Hugh Jackman's driving a bus in the beginning. He's on his way to wherever he's going. And I got so hooked on that guy for about three years. I still like him, but those are the things I remember. Hugh Jackman, Jackman or the singer guy, whatever, his music. I really like that guy's music. I
Starting point is 00:20:27 cannot remember his name. He was really good. I could probably find it really easy, but. Hey, do you know who's coming to your, uh, to Fan X? Which I guess is in a few weeks. right for you guys let's see yeah 85 days looks like uh guess paul williams paul williams uh who sells guns uh oh yeah but disguises them as talking about sides of meat or or cuts of meat oh my gosh we're getting almost all of the hobbits no these are all the hobbits we're getting dominic monahan sean aston billy boyd and elijah wood are all coming yeah susan sarand what For Missa Tomey is coming to She's coming here as well
Starting point is 00:21:08 Why is Susan Saranan Hey David Lusader Could Marissa Tomey be one of the other contestants That I play with that I play against? Yeah We'll be your phrase that Ernie Hudson, Lou Diamond Phillips Priscilla Presley
Starting point is 00:21:23 That's weird Yeah Matthew Lillard You got a few Quite a few Lusties too Rebecca Mader You mentioned Dominic Monaghan Is gonna be there
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh my gosh Randy Quaid's coming oh wow holy shit i thought he wouldn't even get i thought he wouldn't leave canada i thought there was letting him in the country yes his exile oh my gosh jonathan freaks a whole bunch of trekkies lavar burton uh maggie grace another losty will wheaton uh the majors and lindsay wagner the six million dollar man and the bionic woman together gosh dude that's crazy oh linda hamilton michael bean we're getting some terminator shit Phil Lamar yeah he got blown apart in the back of the car and Pulp Fiction that was cool that's awesome all right well actually it looks like a pretty good lineup
Starting point is 00:22:12 it's not bad I'm semi impressed ooh Nolan North voice actor anyway what else we got going on here oh just a note just a little bit of a PSA I'm moving we're having a major change to the way the frog pants store works this is a place where people get prints and my games when I make them and decks of cards and t-shirts and all the kind of stuff and uh we're moving it all in-house my daughter taylor is going to be running everything from here on out she's very good at that stuff and uh i'm super stoked for her to take it over and uh as a part of that we got a bunch of older stock that we are going to slash in ways that is literally going to lose me money okay but we need to
Starting point is 00:22:54 clear them out so things that are like 30 bucks will be like 499 um that could be anything from like hardcover comic compilations to you know full-sized prints or everything in between bunch of decks of cards this kind of stuff so we're just having this major blowout now if you go to the store right now you won't see the sales just yet there are some things on sale but the big sale hits tomorrow so fourth of july sale it'll be it won't be just for the fourth it'll just keep going until we move this stock and it'll also include a new thing which is these grab bags and they're going to be cheap they'll be free shipping and they will have at the center of them, a deck of custom playing cards that I designed all the art for. So the
Starting point is 00:23:35 backs plus like king, queens, jacks, all that stuff. This is like 2018, if anyone remembers us. We still have some older decks. You probably have some hanging out. And these grab bags will feature that as sort of an anchor point and then a ton of like random stuff thrown in. I think it will have eight items total per pack or something like that. And they're going to be cheap. So anyway, it's just an attempt to kind of clear the shelves so we can start putting some really cool new stuff in there. Got big plans for the future. I want people to know about it. Head over to frogpants.com slash store and be ready for that, all right? Because that's coming. And you'll hear me talk about it once it launches and I'll never shut up. All right? For a while. Yeah. Brian,
Starting point is 00:24:19 Tad Pooley Feud waits for no man. Let's do it. Yeah. Well, it waits for us to finally get to it. That's true. And done a way to answer his phone. which hopefully he will do shortly. Whoops, shit. Here we go. Okay, we also need one of you to call in, and we're going to take today our third caller. Third caller.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Sometimes I do fourth. Today it's third. Tird. We want the turd caller. We're taking the turd. Taking the turd. Hey, Brian Dunaway. What are you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. I'm doing nothing. Just sitting here thinking, are they ever going to call me? My God, it's almost 11. 43. I know. I heard nothing happen to them. I know. I hope they're safe. Well, look, you're a very, uh, uh, patient man, you know. Yes. I'll give you that. Well, he's a patient. No, no, no. I reflect, I reflect an impression that I'm patient. Oh, the inside. I'm all knots. Okay. Well, you look great, uh, even though I can't see you.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Your icon looks amazing. It's so good. Thanks, man. We also have with this on the line. I'm a bowl of jello. You are a bowl of jello. We have on the line with us also, wind megas, who has been here before, but he's also today. his third caller. So WinMegas, welcome back. How are you? Hello. Whoops. I hit a thing. That wasn't for you. It's good to have you here, man. It's been a bit, but you might win some prizes today, and Brian Ibitt here is going to explain this whole damn thing and how it works.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That's right, Scott, get logged into the game. It's time to play the Tad Pooley feud. I've surveyed the Tadpull on some nerdy topics and Scott and Brang and after break the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Windmagus, your job is, more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if
Starting point is 00:26:02 your team wins, you'll get a sabotage prize package. Sabotage. That includes NBA 2K20, only four years old at this point, and this War of Mine, both on Steam. This War of Mine's so good. This little war of mine.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm going to let it shine. Courtesy of Keith Brown. Thank you, Keith, for sending in those games. Nice. It's intense, though. It's like a survival game, setting a really harsh dark zombie future it's very good really good is like enemy mine um no nothing like yeah yes sir did you see that 6 is on sale for steam for three bucks right now i did i already own it all so i would i would otherwise jump on that but uh yeah people should it seems like a screaming
Starting point is 00:26:46 deal oh it's screaming right now the summer sale has already made me spend way too much stupid money on steam so i think i'm good for a bit but yeah i've been buying all kinds of things that were ridiculously, like there's stuff on there that was like 80 bucks and it's four bucks today or something. Yeah, the summer sells great. Yeah, I love it. I'm really tempted to get on the Eldon Ring. Do it. Get in there.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Pay the 29. It's telling me that Gryflins is on sale on my wish list. I was like, okay, you got to pick up. Oh, Grifflins is so good. I grabbed the Master Cheap collection for $10, which I thought was super worth it. Yeah, also very good. There's tons of stuff. I got big recommendations for Cora.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I just have to list them because. Hey, Steam, send us some money. Thanks. Yeah, thanks, Sam. We just send us some more codes that we can give away to our awesome listeners when they compete in this game. Awesome, well, let's get to it. What's our topic today or what's our thing? Yeah, so let's get to this one.
Starting point is 00:27:37 We asked 512 Tadpoolers to give their best answer to this. Put your hands on your buzzers and tell me what they said when we ask them to name a band you would classify as hair metal. Ah, Scott. It wouldn't take for a second. I don't know. Neither was it. I don't know what happened there. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'm going to say, sorry, that threw me off because of that. Let's go with Def Leopard. They're a hair metal band. Show me Def Leopard. Number four answer on the board. Pour some sugar on answer. Number four. Three answers will beat it.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Well, on that case, I don't think for me, it was poison. Show me Poison Damn as his stone Number one Shit Number one answer on the board Every cowboy has his big fat
Starting point is 00:28:35 Dong How's it go? I don't know how that goes That's exactly right That was the poison part Yeah Windmakers you're going to be joining Brian and the two
Starting point is 00:28:43 If you have controlled the board You have one point going into this But eight answers Still on the board So you can rack up some points Against Scott's four That he already has for Death Leopard what else you got how you're feeling over there you work were you into the hair metal were you back in the 80s
Starting point is 00:28:59 I have no idea but you know who does my wife so I'm in a glass oh oh I like this phone phone a friend on this show oh okay I like it I like it and if not I have a few in the in the barrel yeah if you're unsure because I I yeah I lived that time yeah you live you made it true I might have listened yeah I might have listened to it for you. Sure, sure. I'm just saying. Yeah. So, Brian, he suggests that you keep going while he asked his wife. Go ask your wife. Meanwhile, meanwhile, I'll go with the crew. Let's get the metal crew out. The crew, by the way, great video game. No, it's not. It's bad. The crew is bad. It's a great video game. It's a bad. Don't tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Model a crew. Yeah. Good documentary? No, the game. The game's terrible. But the documentary is good, though, right? Yeah, the documentary is okay. Yeah. Documentary was really good. All right, show me the crew. Oh, yeah, Motley crew and all their umlets,
Starting point is 00:29:56 number two. I'm getting wrecked. So many umlots. You're not, you're still leading, Scott. You're actually doing pretty good. Four points to
Starting point is 00:30:04 Brian's three. Yeah, but I feel like he's got a long string in him. He's not going to finish here. I'm screwed. Yeah. That's all right. I want our guy to win,
Starting point is 00:30:12 so, you know, whatever. I mean, that's like, that's like the tippy top. So then after that, after you get past,
Starting point is 00:30:18 you know, well, there's one more. Well, some of these get kind of mixed up between metal, metal and hair. And then you start having to figure out, well,
Starting point is 00:30:28 what would the tadpool say? Right. My wife did have a suggestion. Okay. What should give us? She gave us Twisted Sister. Perfect. Twisted Sister. A little heavier on the metal than the hair, but yes, I'm going to agree.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. I mean, D. Snyder, and that long, blonde perm that he had was just spectacular. Yeah. All right. Go with Twisted Sister? Very good. show me come on show me to no that's not that's a different one uh we're not going to take twisted sister where we're going to take it number three that's three your wife knows is that the only one she had run back quick tell her she did good give us more what's the next one yeah they have her i love this phone a spouse that we got going this is my favorite thing we've done yet Alice Cooper?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Alice Cooper. Oh, Alice Cooper. Interesting. Yeah, he definitely has hair. Yeah, I didn't even know. So I know, I know, I know, Ibett knows this. I would, I will not deny this. But yesterday I found out for the first time ever that that was the name of the band, not the dude.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And he adopted it later because everybody just associated with him. His name is Vincent Fernier, I believe. Yeah. So it wasn't even like his. His name is how am I not dead yet? Well, yeah. But it wasn't his nickname even. He was like, that's my band.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And people are like, no, that's you. And so eventually it was just like fine. He just said fine. I had no idea. I had no idea. I love gun. Gun is great. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Anyway, good. All right. All right. Alice Cooper. Show me Alice Cooper. That's a shame. Not even on the list. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah. Yeah. Too old. He did have his moment, though. He did kind of. He did, but it was real 70s kind of thing. I don't know if they called him.
Starting point is 00:32:17 He did slide in a little bit during the hair metal. Yeah, maybe a little bit. He tried. Let's say he tried to do that. He's like, I've got hair. I do metal. Let's do, uh, control and six, uh, six answers to choose from and four points.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Let's do, let's do Cinderella. Let's get them out of the way. Oh, that is really good. That is a really good one. Yeah. Show me Cinderella. Number nine big points for Scott. Those are good, juicy hair metal band points.
Starting point is 00:32:46 They were more, yeah, they were more hair than band even the way those guys. worked. Let's go with White Snake. Let's get them out of the way. Oh, Jack Gummett. The snake of white. Sure. Here we go again. On the board. Show me White Snake.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Here we're going. Yeah, Tani Katain, rolling around on answer number five, bringing you to 18 points. To Megas, I apologize. Megas is six. Let's get... I'm the one who's apologize. I have no idea. No.
Starting point is 00:33:16 How about Oh, who does Who does? Who does? Who does? Who does the cherry pie thing? That's, um... Yeah, you should say that one. Is that my cherry pie?
Starting point is 00:33:30 You should say that one. Yeah, I'll take a lot of what a sweet surprise. Yeah, I'll just do that. Is it Warrant? Is that who that is? Shit. Let's say Warrant. Warrant's a good answer.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Let's see if it's an answer so good. It'll make a grown man cry. Show me Warrant. Oh! Number 18 on the list. Damn it. It wasn't on the list, but. It didn't warrant the list, but it didn't warrant the top 10, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Control going back over to Brandon Winemagus, four answers on the board. And you guys are trailing six points to Scots 18. Some people are going to have their hurt. Hey, can I get one in here, or do you have a more? Do you have more? Do I have a more? No, you take it. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'm going to go with not as popular as the rest, but still up there. Rat. That's with two Tis. It's got two Tis, not one. Rattatatat. Rattatututis. Yeah, sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Show me, let's see if we can go round and round on this one. Show me rat. No. 10. Answer on the board. There are some good points. Some good points for you right there. We're only two.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Not enough. Yeah. And that's most of this. got 18 to 16 but i'm i don't think of death leopard is is a hair metal band but i guess i guess um and the rest of these are really that's what's
Starting point is 00:34:55 important yeah and that's man that pretty much nails most the big ones so i did people really consider like gnr hairband i don't think they are but they definitely had hair and they were a little heavier sometimes so i think i think they
Starting point is 00:35:13 straddled that that because they made music that is like all time awesome and people can still listen to it today and not cringe or whatever but they also had you know him and uh what's his name axel rose and slash slash had some serious hair and it's what is what yeah i'm slash slash you couldn't even see him between his hat and his hair he still hasn't seen him yeah lots of product we don't know if we only know if it is still in there or not um what do you think when megas do you think we should go with the gnr or how about some um how about some la guns they were much more hair metal before they really got GNR, but...
Starting point is 00:35:46 You know, I don't know. The couple of people in the tadpool have said Skid Row. Ooh. You could do Skid right over to that. I think, yeah. I think Skid Row's even... With their Canadian lead singer.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I forgot his name, though. That's a good answer. Yeah. Good answer, chat. All right. Show me Skid Row. Oh, son of a buttle. You failed me, chat.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah. How about Bon Jovi? We got them in there? Bon Jovi. Sure. Let's see if these guys are wanted, dead or on the board. Show me Bon Jovi.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Number seven. A ton of a butthole. Slickery when wet. Okay. Well, that takes Scott up to 25 versus Brian and WinMegis is 16. You know, it's what's funny. It gets one more.
Starting point is 00:36:34 He locks this thing down. But if he finishes everything. If you guys both finish everything, then clear the board. If you finish your, if you finish your, it's a surprise. if you finish your meat
Starting point is 00:36:46 you can get some pudding some pudding yeah but they've definitely not being Floyd um all right how about uh it is chat you know this whole this is the tadpool
Starting point is 00:36:55 thing is really it's the tad pool yep that's that's the oh I've got a strike that I can spare I guess so I'm going to say I guess a spare in a strike are different um let's go with uh
Starting point is 00:37:08 let's get this let's get wasp out of the way I hope wasp is on the way I hope was good one yeah wow god knows more hair metal than i thought dude i was into this stuff when i was a that's a deep dig i saw them in concert they opened for van halen in 85 and i went i went to that all right back back when i liked concerts anyway go ahead yes so uh yes
Starting point is 00:37:29 all right show me wasp oh not even on the surprisingly not even on the list like nobody in the tadpool i don't agree i would i would i haven't thought of wasp and I think that's more it. They were definitely hair-metal, but they've also been completely forgotten. Yeah. They were one of those where my aunt thought they stood for We Are Satan's People or some shit like that. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:37:54 They could be hanging out with nights in Satan's service. Yeah. Or what was ACDC? Against Christ the devil's child. Yeah, against Christ's devil's child. That's it. Oh, my gosh. Adults in our lives freaking F right off, you bunch of dicks.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So lame. Tate and panic for the win. Yeah. Did you say you went to? the concert in 85. Yeah, it would have been, it was the same of Hagar year, the 51-50 album tour. Nice. Yeah, here's the other, here
Starting point is 00:38:21 might be the other fellow with me is, I was one at the time. You were just a child. Yeah, I was 15. Fair enough. Yeah. Anyway. All right. Two answers still on the board. God, now I've forgotten everything
Starting point is 00:38:35 because I'm going through things in my head, and I'm thinking, we said warrant, right? We said that. We said, I think we did. Oh, my God, now I can't remember. I'll tell you we said Warrant because I would like when Vegas to win, so I'll give you that hint. We said Warrant and it was wrong. I said Warrant, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 All right, so let's see. We never did say Guns and Roses. No. I still don't think that's a great hair metal band, but I think it's on this list. I don't think it's right, but I think it's on the list. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:01 What do you think? Hey, Brian, take us down to Paradise City. I think it's as good as any of the other options. Let's do it. It's a big, sometime name recognition is really what it's all about. So let's do some guns. Where they just the tadpool think that they're having that hair metal. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:16 All right. Show me guns. N roses. Oh, yeah. Number eight on the board. So it all comes down to this. You are one point behind Scott. Now, obviously, if either of you get this last one.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right. And we win. Otherwise, and you guys each have one strike to play around with. And nobody's picked number 11 yet, which also gives them a free guess. but one answer left on the board. Is the chat room saying anything smart, wing megis? Is there you say anything smart? Uh, let's see here.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Give me some things or say it. Honestly, it doesn't matter who gets it, but I see Van Halen. Right. I see Kiss. Nah. They're more of a makeup band. Oh, yeah, I have no idea, but. Yeah, but Tadpool, you know, Tadpool and all.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It does the name recognition, yeah. You remember looking up? Lick it up, baby. They were hair metal bands then. They got rid of the makeup and we're... It is... Ooh, quiet riot. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Name recognition better for kiss? I think. It's all the way at six. So that's pretty good. That's a lot of people probably. That's more than 23, less than 30. So, yeah, I'm going to say more than 23 of those weirdos said kiss. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:38 All right. had those big boots let's see if let's see if Wittemegis is going to be playing NBA 2K20 all night and this war of mine
Starting point is 00:40:49 every day show me well God gave rock and roll to you oh good job yeah holy shirt I'm that was one of the most down to the wire
Starting point is 00:41:03 freaking things we've ever done it totally was I would thank you everyone I would tell them to that I would call them glam metal or glam rock before I'd call them hair metal. But it really, again, it all depends on what the tadpole says. Here are some of the ones that didn't make the list.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Number 11 that would have gotten you free points and really pissed a lot of people off would be Metallica. Metallica. Oh, my God, I love it. Number 13, quite a few people said it. Van Halen. Quiet Riot, number 14. Aerosmith, number 16. Scorpions, Europe.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Steel Panther. Winger, ACDC, Dockin, Limousine from Homestar Runner, Platinum Blonde, Striper, somebody said, and then we get down to the singles, All It Remains, Anthrax. Striper may be the ultimate hair metal, that's the guy is, it is so hair metal. Yeah, Jesus band. Death clock, enough is enough, extreme. Somebody said, flock his seagulls. Somebody just simply said, hair metal, bad.
Starting point is 00:42:06 heart helix in excess iron shavings which is I guess a way to get hair metal Judas priest lover boy Liddard Skitterd People really fly it off the handle here Queens Reich Rush Shania Twain Slay and Slaughters Slayer Spital Tass So if you had hair and you were in the rock era I guess Exactly yes and finally white lion Nice
Starting point is 00:42:31 My wife did have a funny answer of Sven from Frozen 2 yeah that definitely counts um i just put in the chat a picture of the kiss like it up tour image which is the one i went to where they shut it down early and i had they kicked everyone out and people were so i thought i thought i was going to see my first riot in my life that night it was so so crazy but this is them attempting to be the thing we're talking about yes right no makeup look at all that teased hair and uh yeah they're trying still sucking in his cheeks over there. He'll pull through. Yep. Still doing it. They tried real hard for like a hot minute to fit into the new era and they just couldn't do it. But whatever. And that song was about something nasty.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Anyway, hey, well done. Well, you know, I don't know. When Meg is you're the big winner and of course, Brian will have these over to you shortly in Discord. Congratulations to you and your wife. And maybe, I don't know, spend the afternoon listening to old heavy metal hair music. Maybe. I don't No, it's up to you. By the way, Scott. Yeah. The last soda shop I think you were thinking of was so delicious. So delicious, that's it.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That is a great name. Do you see how they did it? Soda. Licious was over like so delicious. That's the kind of name you come up with and you're like, we'll think of something else to sell later. This is a great name. All these Mormons did it. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:58 That's it. Don't know. You know Mormons can't drink soda? Did you know that? No, is that the rumor going around? Is that the thing? I heard coffee is the devil's temperature. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:44:10 A lot of Mormons don't drink coffee. I'll give you that one. It's because it's caffeine, right? Wasn't that maybe that's... No, it wasn't the caffeine. Some more strict... It's other stuff. It's stuff that's like habitual.
Starting point is 00:44:21 It's up there. They put it up there with like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and anything that can create habit. That's the stuff they hate. Anyway, hey Brian. What's your take on masturbation? Oh, I'm sorry. My take is I never want to see you doing that, ever.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But I do want to see you this Friday at 1.30 p.m. for Play Retro. Because we're going to get together. We're going to have a great time. And we're going to talk about what? Tell the fine people. Oh, we're going to talk about Toe Jam and Earl on the Sega Genesis. The first one that's the rogue that I did not know, I never played much Toad Jam and Earl back in a day because I started up a couple of times and said, this is some dumb crap. What's going on right now? It's such a rogue game. And now that I've played this week, totally flip-flop. but you hear more about that
Starting point is 00:45:03 also included in the chat or Discord chat a little image this game here is what 25 years it's the Super Smash Brothers and I think we need to take just a quick closer look at that Super Smash Bros. cover and tell
Starting point is 00:45:20 me what Pikachu is doing. It looks like he's like he's puking lightning bolts but then the guy does Oh yeah he's doing Pukachu is what he's done yeah Puketoo And I love the fact that they covered up his butthole would duke it out because you know if you move that font, there's definitely a Pikachu.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I think the O, the hole in the O, is exactly where Pikachu's butthole would be. Yeah, that looks about right. Happy 25. Yeah. It's a booty hole. Also, they use the word Biff for Star Fox punching Samus. And they make the mistake of doing those things and not putting exclamation points. So it just likes like, Zapp.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Biff. Biff. B. Zip. No, you're right. These deserve punctuation. Anyway, you guys deserve to listen to us this weekend. And don't worry, here in Utah, we can play video games. So we'll talk about Togia Mineral.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Unless it's a habit. Unless it's a habit. Don't make a habit of it. That's right. Drink your coffee video game. Bye now. All right, there goes he. We now take break.
Starting point is 00:46:19 When we come back from break. Oh, I should say, this break is brought to you by somebody. Brian, who's it brought to us by? Brought to you by, hey, I'm Rob. Most of you know me as 9 of 12's husband or DM underscore Rob. Having recently found myself between employers, I've decided to launch That Developer Dad, a website and Twitch channel dedicated to sharing what I've learned as a software developer. I'm doing one-hour streams on weekdays while I build out my website using a new to me framework,
Starting point is 00:46:45 and once that's done, I'll switch to building fun little projects and dot net that peak my interest. We'll talk about architecture and project design as we go. I'm streaming on weekdays from 10 until 11 a.m. Eastern Time as That Developer Dad on Twitch, So come hang out with me before TMS, and you can point and laugh with me as I make and fix all my mistakes. The website you can find it is www. thatdeveloperdad.com, and you'll find links to all of the ways to view right there. Thatdeveloperdad.com. Very cool. Rob, I want to come check that out.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I like watching people code. Yeah, I looked at his website today. It's like, all right, this is very cool. Yeah, very cool. Very awesome. All right, Brian, let's get to the song break of the day before Tom gets here. Tell us what we're doing there. Quick, yeah, we're going to get to another rock band here.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Brand new single from a band called Messer, dynamic rock band known for their evocative melodies and powerful anthems. They've got a brand new single called Find Out. This was released in Dolby Atmos, so if you've got a speaker set up that can handle it, this thing sounds amazing. Here's the band Messer and brand new single, Find Out. Here I am stuck in the corner again.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Pressure got me feeling like I can't stand. The tidal wave is crashing down on my head. Everything Everything is trapped in me Breaking out, rising up from underneath Sitting fire deep inside And I can't breathe Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:12 And I can feel the way Stop fucking my soul There's no escape You should know that Just when you thought just thought you're figuring me out all your lives and control of me I'm gonna burn it all down
Starting point is 00:48:32 try to bury the part of me that can think for myself keep on pushing me question me fuck around and find out and I feel dislike a wrecking ball you build it up
Starting point is 00:48:50 and I'm smashing down those walls you can only push a man so far And I can feel the way Suffolking my soul There's no escape You should know that Just when you thought you started to figure me out All your lives in control of me
Starting point is 00:49:15 I'm gonna burn it all doubt Trying to bury a part of me That can think for myself Keep on pushing me pushing me pushing me pushing me Just when you thought just started to figure me out No your lives, if it's all of me, I'm gonna burn it all down Try to bury the part of me that can think for myself Keep on pushing me, pushing me, fuck around and find out
Starting point is 00:49:57 Just when you thought you started to figure me out, all your lives ain't control of me, I'm gonna burn it all down trying to bury the part of me that can think for myself, keep on pushing me, pushing me, pushing me, pushing out. Just when you thought just started to figure me out, know your lives ain't control of me, I'm gonna burn it all down. control of me i'm gonna burn it all down trying to bury the part of me that can think for myself keep up pushing me pushing me pushing me pushing yeah just when you thought you started to figure me out all your lives in control of me i'm gonna burn it all down try to bury the part of me that can think for myself people pushing me pushing me fuck around and find out just when you thought you started to figure me out all your lives and controlling me i'm a burn it all down try to bury the part of me that can
Starting point is 00:50:57 thing for myself. Keep on pushing me, pushing me, fuck around and find out. Did you know adults 60 plus lose more than $60 billion each year to financial exploitation? Greenlight's new Family Shield Plan empowers you to monitor your accounts for suspicious activity, protect yourself with up to $1 million identity theft coverage, and reassure loved ones that you're safe with location sharing and place alerts. Get peace of mind today at greenlight.com slash protect. greenlight.com slash protect.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You're going to be okay? Yes. What happened to my art? He, um, he hit himself in the toilet. Well, like they say, it's the champagne of beers. And we're back. Brian, tell me who that was when we're taxed. Sure. And sorry about those F bombs, folks. Holy cow, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:52:02 That is the song, Find Out, by the band Messer. That is a brand new single that they released. And it's like I just listened to it during that break. It was amazing, Scott. Weird. Messer and find out. And just like Scott is finding out that there are F bombs in that song. Yep. Enjoy those. I'm not editing them. They're minor. They're minor. They're small and quick.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, they're minor F minor. That's what we're saying. F minor. Exactly. Yes. Let's get into a little bit of tech time talk with our old pal Tom. and to do that we got to play a little thing here we want tom we certainly do and we got him he's tom merritt he is ace detect he is the man with the plan and also a very slow drop box restore happening in his life uh tom merit welcome back to the program sir how the heck are you today i am just peachy yeah i'm full of vim and vigor oh you do want the the pairing of those no one ever says
Starting point is 00:52:52 you know i've got the vim lacking the vigor right now yeah i'm lacking i'm lacking so much with the vigor. Yeah, put points into vigor. Yeah, if you put some points into vigor, I've been playing Eldon Ring, and it's specifically a stat you want to stack your vigor. Oh, Viguer is really a, you can put points into. Yeah, you want to, I'm so bad at that game.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I don't know why I'm putting myself through this. It's so stupid. Everybody's doing it, so I have to talk about it, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's hard as hell. I don't care who says, oh, no, once you get the, once you figure it out, it's easy. No, no, it isn't. Anyway, Tom.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Are you saying you just like a little privacy, sky? That's all I'm saying. And a little bit of a little, whatever Elvis saying about. What did he want? A little bit of... A little less conversation. That's what I want. A little more vigor, please.
Starting point is 00:53:36 More vigor, please. A little less Vibben Vigor. A little more action, please. I love that song. Tom Merritt, you are here, and that means it's time for some tech talk as we prepare for the daily tech news show today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time. And I'm very excited about that because my guess is you've probably been digging something.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Is the summer, you know, always a little weird. always a little bit like vacationy and stuff but you find things that's what you do so what did you find what's going on yeah i i have a curse uh everyone around me that i've ever worked with uh frequently says well there's not much in the news today and i'm always like i can't decide what to cut down i have 20 things i want to talk holy shit all right so the summer's always the summer's always like that for me i'm like yeah i guess there aren't as many planned events but there's tons of interesting stuff. For example, the reason I was asking you about wanting some privacy is proton just launched a Google Docs competitor called Proton Docs. So, you know, not a super imaginative name,
Starting point is 00:54:37 but, you know, says what it does. Proton Docs is collaborative editing. So you can go on, you can make comments, you can see each other's edits in real time, all that sort of thing. But end-to-end encrypted, you know, not that Google Drive isn't, but a lot of people don't trust Google these days, even if their stuff is end-to-end encrypted. Proton has a 10-plus year history of being truly end-to-end encrypted, privacy-protecting.
Starting point is 00:55:04 They don't use your data. They don't want to see your data. Proton Mail is the thing they launched with that if you know about Proton is probably the thing you're most familiar with. But they also do VPN, a calendar, a password manager, file storage, Proton Drive. And now
Starting point is 00:55:20 through Proton Drive, you'll be able to do Proton Docs as well. Oh, yeah. And pricing's not bad. It looks like, oh, what? That's euros. It's three up to five gigabytes. Free up to five gigabytes. Or unlimited is like 10 euros a month. So it's, you know, around 10 bucks a month.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Okay. Not bad. This isn't the same proton as the proton thing that like the Steam Deck uses in Linux game box, like valve stuff. This isn't Valve Proton, is it? Or maybe they are. I don't know. No, no. this is a Swiss foundation. They actually just converted their structure to be one of those things where there's a
Starting point is 00:56:00 nonprofit foundation that owns the for-profit company. So Proton AG is still for-profit, but they promise not to make their money off advertising. And Proton Foundation is a nonprofit foundation with a board of trustees. And the nice thing about Swiss nonprofits is they are beholden by Swiss law to only serve their mission. And the mission in the case of the proton foundation to over-simplify is protecting privacy. Nice. Okay. So for those may be hearing this like me and going, oh, I love proton. It's a compatibility layer for Windows games on devices like the Steam Deck and Linux and that. It is that, but that's a valve project called just straight proton. And that exists. And that's a thing. But
Starting point is 00:56:44 it is not this, which I am now signing up for a free account. This is, yeah, this has been kicking around for a long time. It's the most secure way to do email. It's a real secure way to do password managing, although there's some other really secure ones out there. Very secure file storage. They offer a VPN that is well audited. They give their source code openly so that independent security folks can vet it and hopefully find bugs if there are and they can fix them right away, but guarantee like, yes, this is doing what they say. It's meant to be ended and decrypted. They're not, you know, slipping in spyware or malware or anything like that. So it's a really above board company meant to serve the needs of the customer, not make the
Starting point is 00:57:30 customer into the product. Ah, gotcha. Well, I'm, I just signed up. I want to try this. This is news to me, but I love it. There's going to come a day where the only Google service I use, because right now I don't use their search. I don't use, I use docs and I use YouTube. Those are the only things I use that Google owns. Everything else I don't. And it's not like I have a plan to like, I'm ridding myself of Google products. It's not that. I just like these projects and these are things that I use. Oh, I guess I use Gmail. So there's that. But maybe I'll use proton mail. I don't know. I don't know. Well done, the Swiss. There is no reason not to try it. It's like I said, free up to five gigabytes. When you pay, you get access to everything. So when you pay for a plan,
Starting point is 00:58:11 you get the drive space, the mail, the, you know, the whole ball of wax. So it's pretty simple in their monetization. And it may be a little high compared to other services to pay. But remember, there is no question of advertising. They are not monetizing you at any point. So, you know, I don't think it's outrageous what they charge. And it certainly is for someone who's concerned about that. Or we're concerned about your data being used to train an AI model, something.
Starting point is 00:58:38 They're not going to do that either. so there's a lot of reasons to try this out and I think as they keep adding products more and more I feel like man maybe I should just transfer everything over there because you know if they get spreadsheets which is what I use Google sheets for with podcasts I might want to do it this way sure yeah I'm very curious about it if this fails would we call it a Swiss miss
Starting point is 00:59:03 oh I'll be here all week anyway Tom Merritt who is right I'm trying to come up with something for pudding bar next and I just
Starting point is 00:59:14 you know you were right not to laugh though you were right it was the right you were I promise you it was the right thing
Starting point is 00:59:21 yeah you know that's a low bar you might call it a pudding bar yeah you might exactly but I just know
Starting point is 00:59:28 look Tom and I both like bad jokes and so here we are yeah yeah I only didn't laugh because I was mad that I couldn't come up with something instantly
Starting point is 00:59:35 to counter it it'll come with time it'll come with time uh well anyway this is very cool i'm excited about this i'm the same age as you right now oh that's true for a hot uh when's my birthday in a week and a half for like yeah yeah for like 12 days or whatever we're the same age yeah happy birthday by the way we didn't do it proper on the show uh yeah yeah well because it was a friday i think right it was a day we weren't doing a show did the dog get you anything yeah that's right you get you a gift He did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:08 The dog got got me an anchor USBC to USBA charge a one of those one of those kind of blanket on the GA chargers, you know, the fast chargers. Oh, the fast chargers. That's good. Yeah. And I heard you at an Amazon, it was in an Amazon bag and it said it was from 7, the dog. So obviously he got on and ordered it, you know, prodigies. at his age.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Nice. See what else he might have ordered for himself, though. That's the problem. It's, uh, well, it's like one thing for Tom and then, uh, five things for him. Yeah. Um, I heard you also had a damn fine, and some bones. That's right. I heard you also had a damn fine piece of pie, too.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Oh, yeah. Oh, I did. That's what you do. Uh, and I strung that out. I had a piece of cherry pie for breakfast, uh, for three days over my birthday weekend. So one piece over three days. That's, uh, slow eater. Eat a day.
Starting point is 01:01:03 One piece each. Oh, per day. Okay. Yeah. that's a lot of pie actually slowly eat it that's a decent amount of pie that would be very lynchian that would be very lynchian yes exactly that's great uh well tom it's always a pleasure to talk about these things and more of it will get talked about today on the daily tech news show i will be there and very excited about that is there anything else going on that you'd like to tell folks
Starting point is 01:01:26 about indeed there is um i'm going to be sending out the free weekly tech newsletter that i write today because tomorrow is Independence Day in the United States so I won't be doing a newsletter on the normal free day. So if you are somebody who likes free tech news, you like my take on things, you'd like it delivered to your inbox with a little
Starting point is 01:01:48 more than you might hear from me on Daily Tech News show. Go sign up right now at free tech newsletter dot com. Very nice. And later on I'd like to discuss this weird YouTube glitch that you ran into that you texted me about. That's very odd. So I went to
Starting point is 01:02:04 Turn on, because I like to turn on the stream and see what you're all talking about. You know, champagne of beers, Love a Miller High Life reference. Look at what's in the chat room. But when I started it, it was showing me a clip from Star Trek the next generation with data saying Massaka is waking. Yeah, and it's my chat. It's all these people. It's the restream bot. It's relaying Twitch stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And it's definitely my post. I don't have any idea what that is. I don't get it. but also look at day we've been joking when the puppy wakes up at night when the puppy witching hour starts and he goes crazy every night which happens to all puppies we're like ah masaka is waking so i had been looking up that clip but i don't know why it put itself in your stream for whatever he's very very weird well i guess we ran into the cloud is what we did uh well nicely done it will be great to hang out with you later it's tom merritt everybody watch him as he goes tom will see you soon thanks man Tom. Bye. All right. That was weird. Here, Tom, or Brian, look at this. You can see this. Let me see. Let me see. Have a look at that. See? That's what you saw when he fired it up. Oh, weird. Isn't that weird? It's very weird. Yeah, no kidding. Huh. All right. I mean, we've had weird things happen before, but.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah, never that. It's pretty weird. Neither of us look like that. And neither of us are recommendaling that or anything like that. No. Very strange. All right. Well, let's. Let's get into the next phase of our existence, which includes a button I push that goes like this. Well, what do you recommend? Yes, it's time for recommendals, everyone. We talk about stuff we have seen on streaming services, and we recommend them to you, the home listener. Joining us so far, anyway, is Randy Jordan. Hi, Randy.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Good morning, morning, stream. Hi, how are you? Good. I'm fine. Good. Really, really looking forward to America's Canada Day tomorrow. Mm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You got any big plans? You're going to, I don't know. No, zero plans. Okay. The lesser of the plans is hopefully what we're talking about here. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, we're going to my sisters. We're going to swim.
Starting point is 01:04:14 She got a new pool. We're going to go do that and we're going to have food. Kim's making some spread or whatever. That'll all be fun. But like going out and getting all into a crowd watching fireworks does not appeal to me anymore. Kind of same. Although I have a friend who has a new, like, fiance and he's from England and he's never seen like a July 4th in the United States and he's
Starting point is 01:04:38 now he now lives here and so I'm like I wonder if we could take him to like a parade tomorrow morning I'm looking for a parade yeah parades are okay although I kind of hate those two but I that's that's that's preferable I you'll notice both of them have like annoying crowds which is my problem with both of them but yeah we'll see I just like the idea of taking an Englishman in his 30s to his first Independence Day parade I don't know. Something funny about it. Seems okay. I'd actually see it from that perspective. Well, I don't know where Nicole is. I'll ring her again.
Starting point is 01:05:11 There's no answer yet, but she might be out and around, you know, like Brian said in Colorado doing stuff. She's got her time mixed up because of the switch back to mountain time. Oh, right. It's an hour early. Good point. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. I texted her and I'm re-ringing her. That's probably all we can do for now. Let's start with Brian, though. He's got a clip all lined up and probably just needs to describe it. What do you got? Yeah, this is a show that I've been binging. A lot of people know the reason why I started binging it, but even if I were to have completed the reason that I started binge watching it, I would continue to binge watch it because I forgot what a funny-as-hell show it is.
Starting point is 01:05:47 You're going to hear several of the main characters in this clip. There you go. Speaking to that, Ron LaFlam has got us a new litigator, and we are meeting him in an hour. How are we going to pay this person? Our guy has agreed to waive his entire fee until our case is resolved. Oh, it's some wet behind the ears, noop straight out of law school. No, he is said to be very experienced, one of the best in the biz. Then why the f*** would he take our case on spec?
Starting point is 01:06:11 Was I in possession of cocaine and phenomines? Amyl nitrate, also known as poppers at the time of my arrest? In large quantities. Therefore, I was incarcerated and I was disbarred. Oh, wait, hold on. You were disbarred? So you can't practice law? Not an open court. In the state of California, that's correct.
Starting point is 01:06:30 but this is an arbitration I'm really grateful for the opportunity I'm turning my life around I've served my time questions I guess I have I've won at least um what does
Starting point is 01:06:45 amyatrate do oh it dilates the anus that is it also produces you for you okay thank you Pete and Greg sure
Starting point is 01:06:57 that is a show called Silicon Valley. This is an HBO show that started in 2014, went for six seasons and 53 episodes. And the other voice you're hearing there, so you're hearing Thomas Middletich as Richard Hendricks. You're also hearing
Starting point is 01:07:14 the great Zach Woods, who you know from stuff like the office. And he was he also, he was on that, what was the space thing on HBO? They're trapped on a avenue five. Avenue 5.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Avenue 5. Yeah. I love that show. Oh, my gosh. And he's just, I think he's the master of timing and comedy and delivery. I think he's one of the, one of the stars of this thing for sure. You've also got T.J. Miller, who will not be appearing in the next to Deadpool movie. And Martin Starr and Kamalini on Johnny. Yes, you were about to say. I just, I'm sad that T.J. Miller ruined it for everybody. Like, like, what a stupid, stupid. thing like this guy he could have just you know been cool like everybody else and this would have been a legendary show that everybody watched for sure yeah he's a bit of a bummer but but i really um there's something about his like when he's on screen i really like it i like his whole thing he's his whole vibe is really funny like he's got he's another this show really capitalizes on the comedic uh delivery of of a lot of these guys martin star uh who you remember
Starting point is 01:08:27 from freaks and geeks he plays gilfoyle and is i think can probably be my favorite character on the show because of what they give him to do and his his really skeptical, almost monotone delivery of his lines. Camille Danjani, his basically Guilfoy's buddy and Arch Enemy at the same time, Josh Brenner, who is Bighead, Nelson Bighetti, who is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle. You'll always be promoted to your level of incompetence or whatever the phrase is. Um, this thing is so full of, of great regulars, but also great guest stars. Stephen Toblowski, you heard Matt McCoy, uh, in that, uh, Lloyd Braun from Seinfeld, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:12 that's who that is. Gosh, dang it. The voice was killing me, dude. I was going to ask you at the end of this, but now you've cleared it up. I feel better. Yeah. Uh, Jimmy O Yang, who plays, uh, Jin Yang, um, uh, again, just so many great secondary and tertiary characters and actors.
Starting point is 01:09:30 and comedians in this thing. And it is, it's a very accessible lampooning of the tech industry. You don't have to know a whole lot of programming, although from what I hear, some of the stuff they talk about is pretty dang accurate. Some of it, of course, is is way simplified and way, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:49 way candified to make it easier for people to digest. But it does, it does play on the growth of a startup tech company and how they battle the big guy in this case Gavin Belson who is
Starting point is 01:10:06 let's see is that Christopher Evan Welch I think no who is he I can't remember the actor
Starting point is 01:10:13 oh there it is Matt Ross yeah Matt Ross this guy just exudes smarm and and
Starting point is 01:10:22 the most punchable face ever on this show but is a great kind of enemy to this little cluster of good guys that you root for on this show. It got a ton of accolades.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It was nominated five times for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy Series and well-deserved. It never won, but it was a well-deserved nomination. And it overlaps with Veep. Sorry. Yeah, exactly. That was its big, that was its big failing point. And even the 10 second, now I'm going to draw people's attention.
Starting point is 01:10:58 If you haven't watched this before, or even if you have, pay close attention. It's only got a 10-second opening titles clip. It doesn't show any titles other than Silicon Valley. But that thing has so many Easter eggs and references like the protesting and vomiting on a Yahoo box. The Uber balloon all of a sudden getting kind of attacked by a lift balloon in the bottom corner. Google getting eaten by Alphabet or being taken over. by, not taken over, but absorbed into alphabet and all these other things. The Napster balloon going up real quick and then crashing back down.
Starting point is 01:11:37 It's, you know, just that 10 seconds has a lot of little, little fun digs at the tech industry. It's another reminder that Matt, or Mike Judge. Is one of the greatest creators of all time. He really is. And while I like everything that he's done, I think Office Space and this are my two favorite Mike Judge things ever. I'm, you know, I like Beavis. I like King of the Hill, but this thing for me is, is so damn funny. And so well, well thought out and well written and, um, and just such a crackup. It's also amazing how well he nails the Silicon Valley, the actual Silicon Valley vibes and all
Starting point is 01:12:17 the weirdness that goes on there and all that stuff. It's great. Venture capitalists and, and, uh, patent trolls and, um, Nail, you know, basically everything that you could encounter as a tech industry, he nails and lampoons very, very well. Yeah, that's awesome. Currently streaming, as of course it will be probably in perpetuity on Max, Max.com. Like you said, 56 episodes, it's half an hour show, and it's a very, very funny thing. The awkwardness of Middle Ditch, you know, I wouldn't say if you're about to get up on stage with a bunch of people, he's probably not the thing you want to see right before you do that just because his weirdness and his awkwardness. But it's, that's really the only trigger warning I might
Starting point is 01:13:06 give you. It's just, it's just really, really fun stuff. Silicon Valley. I love that you just counted on HBO slash Cinemax to keep something in perpetuity. Man, you're like the worst. It's a really good point. Lately they're bad, but I does feel like the HBO stuff, like the actual HBO content has not been chucked. I haven't. haven't seen anything get churn. Curb or deep or Sopranos or if you look at if you look at Max originals those are some of those are ify and they've some have fallen off and gone away some went to Netflix but I don't think so far anyway I'm not that I have a lot of confidence in the future of it but it feels like HBO stuff's pretty I'm just I'm expecting them in the future to make like a
Starting point is 01:13:45 premium tier where you have to spend more every month to see Game of Thrones or something oh geez yeah so so there it is anyway uh so Town Valley available on Max. Very nice. Randy, tell us what you have brought us today. Comedy. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:03 It's the summertime. I'm just watching comedy. I didn't see this when it first came out back in May. And I caught up on it during my vacation. And it was tremendous. Basically, now, since the pandemic, you know, like since 2021-ish,
Starting point is 01:14:22 Netflix brings all the, comedians in the world to Los Angeles every first week of May, and they, uh, they're still calling it the Netflix as a joke festival. They're, they will certainly fix that name at some point. Anyway, uh, they, um, they established a sort of like through line show this year. And, uh, I'm going to give you the, I'm giving you the first minute of the second episode. And so you're going to hear the host and you're going to hear him, uh, talking to. his co-host, which is Richard Kind, hit it. Oh, I love Richard Kind. Gosh, dang it.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Now you've got me completely hooked. I don't even know what this is. All right, here we go. Love that guy. He spit on me once, by the way. Now, on Friday, we had a few first show glitches and king, but I want you to know, we heard your complaints. I met with the crew, and I promise you, from the bottom of my heart, they will absolutely
Starting point is 01:15:19 happen again. They'll probably happen more because we talked about it. I think that meeting was almost manifesting more glitches. People said, though, they said that they liked the loose, clunky feeling of the show. Well, if you did, you are in luck. They said they liked how impulsive and random it was. Qualities of mine that almost killed me a couple years ago. Now, if you didn't see our Friday episode, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:51 There's no point watching. You'll never catch up. The MCU-level mythology that we've established on this show is impenetrable. The fan fiction written about Richard Kind already is prolific, and it is disgusting. All right. This is everybody's in L.A. And like I say, it is an attempt to make a sort of home base for the entire comedy festival that Netflix is putting on. And it is tremendous.
Starting point is 01:16:22 it is funny. It is six episodes. They recorded one each night of the festival. They're in Los Angeles and they just got comedians on a stage and they did things. And I kind of want to call it a variety show, but it's not. There's not like much music, right? This is a comedy festival. And I don't want to call it stand up, although there John Mullaney is doing standup. It's kind of a talk show, but it's also kind of like a look at Los Angeles. Angeles, which is really fun. Like, their episodes all have a theme. So, like, there's an episode about coyotes and an episode about earthquakes and an
Starting point is 01:17:01 episode about palm trees, you know? And, like, they take live call-ins from random people around Los Angeles. They have special guests show up in the audience. It's very fun and funny. And it's not really like anything you've ever seen. So I'm asking you guys to watch it. All right. It sounds all right.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I've seen clips of this all over. YouTube shorts and TikTok and stuff seems like it's got you know people are into it and that's a thing now right like the whole thing Taylor Tomlinson is doing is making she's making a show but like the one of the goals is to produce clips
Starting point is 01:17:39 yeah do you know what I mean I understand what you man sure it is a thing you'd want to have you want to have content that will easily be clipable down the road right yes did you know that we could clip this too and put it on the internet? We have. Yeah, we do it all the time.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Hi, Nicole. There you are. Hi, hi. Surprise. Hi, it's nice to see it. I'm in Denver. Yeah. I can see you from here.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I can totally see you. You missed, it's actually literally your turn. Right in the second. Yeah. Well, let's wrap up with this one. Oh, yeah, yeah. Where can people hear it, Randy, or see it? See it.
Starting point is 01:18:16 All right. And here. Netflix. This is Netflix. This is Netflix. This is everybody's in L.A. And it's, well, It's six episodes.
Starting point is 01:18:21 John Mullaney hosts. It is so fun. Please watch. Nice. Nicole, welcome. It's good to have you here. I'm here to bring you down. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Randy made you happy. I'm going to make you a little sad. All right. I was curious. I was curious about this one, so I'm glad you brought it all things. Let's give it a play and see what we got here. These are all the family photos. There's boxes and boxes of them.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And they're quite heavy. I'm Mary Christine Galvin, which my mother always said was named after Mary, the mother of Christ. I was born into this large Irish Catholic family. I was the youngest of 12 children, 10 boys, and two girls. Don, Jim, John, Brian, Michael, Richard. Joseph, Mark, Matthew, Peter, Margaret, and Mary. Six of my brothers diagnosed schizophrenics. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:19:32 My mom just... All right. That's probably good enough. That sounds gnarly. I wondered what this was. I couldn't tell from the poster. Yeah, this is on Max, and it's exactly what she just said, six schizophrenic brothers. I'm fascinated by brain trauma.
Starting point is 01:19:49 now that I've had my own. And so, did I ever tell you I finally got a diagnosis? Oh, good. I thought you did. Maybe you didn't. I don't remember. So I'm a very rare case of what is called Sidham Korea, which is an offshoot of rheumatic fever, which causes me a lot of movement problems.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Basically, my body attacked my basal ganglia in my brain, and I'll have flare-ups and ticks and OCD. So that experience, I don't know, made me very curious about things like schizophrenia. And like, so this documentary, I think it's six parts. I think there's even a book written about it. It's basically most of the surviving children who are now in, you know, their 50s and 60s.
Starting point is 01:20:46 that they were born into this family, an Irish Catholic family, the mother and father were very religious, and they talk about the six brothers, specifically, that they have schizophrenia, how it happened. And so there's not a lot of understanding of schizophrenia. There's a lot of fear about schizophrenia, rightfully so. But there are people that have it that are not, you know, there's different grades to it, right? So this documentary is intense. It's very triggering. And the woman that you heard, that's the youngest sibling, holy crap, she's been through the ringer. She got, she took the brunt of a lot, because she had to be in that house. right when the brothers were going through their psychotic episodes and just just crazy stories and how the mother said to her mary don't abandon them um so she was the mother was trying to take care of the brothers and kept them in home and in the meantime lots of studies have happened so they've never had so many things siblings have schizophrenia. So they were part of these, you know, kind of groundbreaking studies
Starting point is 01:22:23 to try to understand what triggers schizophrenia, because apparently it can happen between the ages of 14 and 24. If it's going to show up, that's typically when it shows up. And so for all those brothers, they kind of look at the markers, and now genetically, you can see if you have those markers. And if you have a big traumatic event, that could be a trigger. So it's kind of like nature versus nurture and stuff like that. So it's a fascinating documentary. I was riveted by it, just watching the story and seeing kind of the research that has come of it because of those brothers. Is it a single one film or is it a series? No, no, no. I think it's six episodes. So you can kind of take, that's the important part, you can take little, little bites, like, because it's intense.
Starting point is 01:23:24 So, and they kind of, what they do is they kind of go through and chronicle each brother and how their symptoms manifested, what they think the trigger was. And let's just say, a lot of it started with the church. So, because the mother was very religious, and this was the time. of the Catholic priests and yeah so it's it's awful and how something like that can devastate a entire family and it has like a trickle-down effect to everyone involved in the family so and and just seeing people try to come to terms with that kind of and work through that trauma and move forward and and it It was just, it was really interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And then you get to see Mary's children. She has a son who's deathly afraid of being schizophrenic. Oh, wow. Sure. Like, so they interview him and kind of what they did to help him. And he's like, when I turn 24, when I wake up and I turn 24, I'm going to celebrate. Like, he's so afraid of being, like, it happening to him. But none of her, but none of her kids are showing any signs of it.
Starting point is 01:24:44 No. I think the son just has more trauma just from being exposed to the brothers and then worrying that was going to be his fate. So, but like I said, it was, it was a fascinating documentary. And something I think needs to be talked about more. I think schizophrenia, you have, what was that movie? You know what I'm talking about? There's a bunch of movies.
Starting point is 01:25:15 A bunch of movies about schizophrenics. It had John Cusack in it, and they were like, all in his mind. Identity. I don't think I saw it. Except that's kind of a spoiler. It's old, right? We're past the two weeks. It's old.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I mean, it's a really good thriller. Yeah. It's a great thriller. So, but you have that kind of how Hollywood perceives schizophrenia and just brain disorders. And I think we don't talk enough about mental health. I think we're getting to kind of break some of that down. It's just, it's scary for everybody involved, and mainly, you know, especially the person involved, it's happening to because it's confusing.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And you're like, like with schizophrenia, you hear voices, you hear, you see things. It's like there's some kind of, like, it's almost too much dopamine, I think it is with the receptors. So it's trying to, you know, of course, the medication makes them sleepy and they don't want to take the medication. And when you're on your medication long enough, and you're like, oh, I feel fine. I'm going to go off my medication. And then you go off the rails. So, yeah, it's a, I highly recommend giving it a watch if you're interested in, you know, understanding schizophrenia a little bit more. Looks like it's a discovery joint.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yes, it is. And I was always curious about that. Like, I haven't watched much of the. the discovery content since they merged all that on Max, but that's good to hear because a lot of their documentaries always seemed like a little over the top, you know, exploited it or whatever. Well, I mean, it didn't seem over the top. I felt, I mean, it did feel really raw.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I'm okay with that. Raw usually means truth and they're, you know, I like that authenticity, so I'm fine with that. I did try to start watching that Renfair. And I hated it. I hate, I cannot stand that Renfair dog. I hated it so much. You know what? I'm not even willing to call it a documentary because they,
Starting point is 01:27:18 they pull the rug out on the documentary part. In the first freaking episode, they start having internal dialogue with the voice of the people that are supposedly in a documentary. Freaking Fet that. I hated that. I hated it. It felt,
Starting point is 01:27:32 it felt gross. I'm like, ugh. But can we all love the description of Renfair? when the ailing king of America's largest Redsbust Fair declares his retirement an epic power struggle
Starting point is 01:27:47 ensues between an actor a former elephant trainer and a kettle corn kingpin They do a great job of making me want to watch it and so glad that Scott did a good job of making me not want to watch it because I feel like he saved me
Starting point is 01:28:01 it just felt very it felt all produced production and it didn't feel real and yeah I couldn't not even get past the first episode. Like I'll put it this way. I'll put it this way. It was like a very really high quality version of, let's say, real house.
Starting point is 01:28:20 It's worse than real housewives because at least real housewives or something like that. Yes, you're being played. Yes, it's being edited to create villains and heroes and all of that. But this thing was presented, at least initially, as a really high quality, well-made documentation of the rent fare stuff in this country, specifically in Texas. the largest rent fare in the world and you're like yeah this is all interesting to me i want to go here and then later they got a guy who's walking around with a voice in his head that is himself going i wonder if i'll ever achieve my goals as a dude in the rent fair whatever the hell he's saying and i just went really you're going to do this at least shitty at least shitty reality tv doesn't
Starting point is 01:28:59 pretend like they know what the thoughts of the people are you're hearing the thoughts oh that's horrible it was it was it was the whole thing was cringe like i'm like i feel like they're making fun of these people like it just felt like they exploited everyone and the old guy i was like i can't watch this this is gross like it's just he's like i just want to find a woman it's just total complete garbage utter garbage yeah yeah total waste everybody's time i hate that show it was it was terrible watch six schizophrenic brothers um is there is there like any like serious violence in this thing? Descriptions of violence.
Starting point is 01:29:44 They don't do reenactments or anything like that? No, of course, no. Good, I hate those, hate those too. But they'll talk, they'll talk about like a, there was one, I guess there was one. It was the brothers, there were three brothers that were very close in age and they were in hockey together. And one of the schizophrenic brothers had an episode and there were still it was still early on and knocked the other brother and he had
Starting point is 01:30:12 like a massive concussion which they think that's his trigger for his schizophrenia and he was in the hospital and so they showed like a reenactment of a kid with a like a little pool of blood that was about as graphic as it kind of got
Starting point is 01:30:28 so okay thank you I want to see I want to see this that's super interesting to me So I'm glad somebody here saw it because I was very curious about it. Yeah. I favored it and then said, I'll get back to this whenever, but maybe sooner than I thought. And a lot of the brothers are still alive.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Two of Pat, one, you know, one actually killed himself. One passed away, I think from heart attack maybe. But a lot of them are in facilities, not necessarily mental facilities. It's more kind of nursing home facilities with special. care that they're and then the sister is like there to kind of make sure they're taking care of kind of stuff
Starting point is 01:31:13 and then they have the other brothers who were not affected by the schizophrenia kind of like survival guilt and talking about that and you know it's all it's so
Starting point is 01:31:29 complicated of a situation and there's no right and wrong answers and when you look at a situation like that it's like everybody's just trying to survive and kind of go forward with their life yeah well i definitely want to see it uh it's on max everybody or probably on the discovery app that is still separate somehow right get on both yeah uh very cool here is mine this is i'm also going to bring things down a little bit i like documentaries about weird crime cult things and one that has fascinated me since I was a kid and I'm sure I am not alone in this is the
Starting point is 01:32:13 no I'm with you on this yeah it's the Jonestown massacre specifically a documentary called it's a series made by National Geographic called cult massacre day one in Jonestown and I've seen just about every one of these ever made if there's something about Jim Jones and all that going down I've seen it and this one featured some stuff that I've never seen before and some people I've never heard from before and it made it better than I expected. I kind of thought I was in for an average documentary and it turned out a lot better than I thought. It's a limited series. It's up on, where did I see this? Hulu. Hulu. National Geographic made it. It's very, very good. Here is my clip. One night, I went to a meeting after a service. We were told not to fall asleep and I want to say
Starting point is 01:33:00 It was like 3 o'clock in the morning. I remember I did fall asleep. I had a gun on my forehead by Jim Jones. And he goes, I love you very much, but don't fall asleep because I will kill you. All right. So that's just a tiny clip. That's a tiny clip. Yeah, that's just an itty-bitty one.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But there is one thread through this whole thing that really got me. And that is that they got his son, who is now, I don't know, 60s or older. Jim Jones is a son? Yeah, Jim Jones' actual son. He had a son? He did. And I didn't know that either. I had no idea. He had family there in Guyana when they went there.
Starting point is 01:33:41 And this guy was a kid then, obviously. He's just a young kid. I think he was eight or nine, ten maybe. And he hasn't really said much publicly his whole life. He's sort of just been chased by this awful ghost that is his father and everything that happened. And I just gained so much new respect for this guy. And he also gave me some pause about a phrase we all use all the time, kind of casually.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Oh, drinking the Kool-Aid thing. And it made me think hard about, because that's really the origin of that, right? Yeah. And there have been other things since, like the, what's the Heaven's Gate people. The Heaven's Gate, yep. Yeah, all that. So it's not like they're the only ones, but they kind of started that whole thing. And so when somebody, you know, goes hard on a.
Starting point is 01:34:29 conspiracy theory, it is not uncommon for somebody around them to go, oh, I see you're drinking the Kool-Aid or whatever. And I understand the sentiment behind it. That's how a lot of idioms and phrases come out of things, right? We just, it's based on something that happened. And now we say it all the time. You know, people say never forget all the time based on 9-11 or they'll say, you know, and often it's in joking ways. And sometimes it's therapeutic. I'm not, I'm not judging anybody for doing this. But the son made a comment in this. I probably should have used that clip, but I want people to hear it for themselves, but he said he hates it, but not because he thinks people are using it to be mean or anything. He says it just gets it completely wrong. The meaning is wrong. These people
Starting point is 01:35:10 didn't willingly do this. And the stories around this are often that, oh, well, he was so so demagoguery that he convinced people to drink it. That's why they did it. And the truth is, he just straight up murdered those people by forcing them to do it. it and had people with guns to their heads and told them if you don't drink it, you're going to get shot right now. So you have to do it. And it's not a mass suicide. It's a mass murder is what it is. And hearing his specifics, he wasn't there for that. He escaped. He ran. So that's why he's still with us. Wow. And he hates his father with a burning passion. And I feel so bad for this guy. because his entire life will always and forever be dogged by your dad was Jim Jones.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Like, how awful must that be for anyone? Their entire life is defined by the actions of this piece of shit. And it really got me. So anyway, I gained a bunch more from this one than I have in past ones. The past ones usually focus on just, you know, here's what happened and here's a series of events and that the time frame was. But this one was a lot more about personal people and their exact experiences, survivors. all came forward to talk on this one. They all had really interesting things to say that I just didn't realize about the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I mean, at one point, there's this guy there who was just 12 or 14 or something, and his family was left there. He'd ran off into the trees. And then later, when authorities is much later, he'd been in a hotel for a few days in the main city there. And a few days later, they had a little group that was supposed to go out and see what happened. because nobody knew what happened. They just knew that there was shootings at the airfield. They didn't know all these people were dead. We didn't have satellite stuff that we're going to tell us anything that we all had access to,
Starting point is 01:37:06 you know, and that was government stuff. We didn't have, they didn't have a way to have cell phones or even satellite phones or any other way to know what was going on on the ground. There was no communication. So they take this 14-year-old kid on the expedition to go see what happened. And he arrives to find his family and hundreds of others just laying their dead,
Starting point is 01:37:25 bloating in the sun. And that's how he found out that his family had been killed and didn't know. And it was a why, hearing his perspective was absolutely wild. So anyway, if you, if that stuff is at all interesting to you and you want to learn a little something from history and I don't know, I'm going to stop using the phrase drink, cool eggs. I just think it's, I think he's right. It's just the wrong taste. Yeah, well, it's not just that. It's the wrong meaning.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Yeah, it's lost its edge. It's lost its meaning. And again, I'm not going to judge anyone else for saying that I don't care. but I don't feel good about it anymore. It really bothered me. But it's very, very good and really thorough. Again, something I like about a documentary. It doesn't spend a lot of time trying to be shocking or using too much music to do anything.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Those things are there. Those elements are there, but they're not exploitative. And I think it's a really interesting look at that whole mess. So anyway, up on Hulu, available now. The title of it is a little bit weird. It is Cult Massacre, colon, one. day in Jonestown. And it's quite good.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I think it's on Disney as well if you have the combo service. Yes. Have you ever heard conspiracy of the show? Maybe. Adam Todd Brown has this podcast called Conspiracy of the Show. And I guess I don't know what that is. He's got a series on Jonestown. And of course, because it's conspiracy of the show, the question that he's trying to answer is,
Starting point is 01:38:50 was Jonestown a CIA conspiracy? And I'm just curious if this touches on that. Not at all. They don't even go near it. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, conspiracies can. take a big huge dump for me but in this thing they don't get into that at all if that even exists they don't even mention it um they basically which is what somebody who's conspiratorial about it would say oh see they don't want to tell you they're just trying to fool you into think but really he was a plant from the scene like whatever i can't i can't communicate i'm not i'm not suggesting this by the way i just i was curious yeah i'd never
Starting point is 01:39:23 heard of that show before i see it now though i'm looking at it there's an episode of you're wrong about on the Jonestown Massacre that I would suggest. I think you should listen to that episode. Okay. If you're, if you're interested in podcasts about this thing. All right. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Uh, anyway, available now, it'll be up on quicktms. L.I, as well, all of these selections today. And so while you're,
Starting point is 01:39:46 you know, you're having a moment there with, uh, Nicole and I's recommendations, you're feeling a little down. You can just drive down the street to Randy and Brian's recommendations and have a good laugh. Get a little uplift.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Yeah. your depress-a-depress-a-thon. Yeah. We're bringing you the full range of content today. That's right. Exactly. Anybody got anything cool going on, Nicole? Anything you want to mention?
Starting point is 01:40:07 I'm going to go to, I'm going to go stay at the Stanley Hotel. So envious. So what you're staying? I thought you were just touring it. You're staying there? Oh, no. I'm going to stay there. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:40:17 They even have a Stephen King room, but I have to call and see if I can get it. I doubt if I can get it. Is there a naked old crusty lady in a tub or something you have to deal with? So they have. Probably are. Not part of the tour. They do. They have a tour.
Starting point is 01:40:31 It's a 60-minute tour, and I'm going to sign up, and I'm going to go by myself because nobody else cares. I wish I could come up there, yeah. But they have reenacted the bathroom scene. So I'll take some pictures. I'll take some pictures. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'll take pictures and send them to you. So, yeah, we're going to go to Estes Park and stay there overnight.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Do you have to wear a tarp before you open in elevators and stuff like that? you know what I mean I can't wait I just can't wait what if you see a couple of twins standing there at the end of the hall they give you a big wheel for the tour and you just ride around I have a typewriter in my room
Starting point is 01:41:12 my gosh to throw against the wall yeah yeah so that's what I'm doing please tell me they let you put your face through a door and say hey Johnny here I bet they do that I'll bet they do and it's probably a photo opportunity
Starting point is 01:41:27 I will say, whoever's running the Stanley Hotel now is really kind of playing it up. It wasn't, they didn't do this before. I think they've tried to distance them from it. They did. They're leaning into it. And from what I understand, isn't there a dead body there now? Is there? In a maze they made the maze or something.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Like there's an actual dead body. Not an actual dead body. No, no, no. I think it is. Google it. I don't know. they can't i think that's illegal i'm just gonna unless somebody said look here's my i'm gonna get in my will and i'm gonna say please put my dead body in the maze at the estes park and the maze is only
Starting point is 01:42:08 the hedge maze is only like a foot high by the way at the stanley so you'd be able from anywhere to see this dead body but from what i read it was a special like they acquired kind of like a mummy Like a real cadaver. Yes. That's crazy. You Google it. I read the article. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Real dead guy endless. Okay. Home. Frozen dead guys. Wait a minute. Let's see. No, frozen dead guy.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Oh, well. Oh, is it the frozen dead guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I don't know. I just remember reading the article going on. Oh, weird. I can't find anything, but I'm curious. So we have this thing, this annual thing every year called the frozen dead guy days in Netherlands, Colorado, all about this Scandinavian family who actually kept their grandfather in their freezer. Maybe that's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Well, no, but I'm seeing the article saying that this guy, the frozen body, is somehow at the Stanley Hotel. So how do they work that out? That seems crazy today. But he's not just like loose in the maze. is like just laying on the ground. Do you imagine? You're like, hey, guys.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Oh, my God. They packed white stuff around them. Oh, man. That's great. That's really great. Brian, you were almost in that movie. How do you feel? How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 01:43:35 I feel like they should let me tour it for free. I agree. I think they should too. Or stay in that room anytime I want for free. But that would be my request. But, yeah, so I'm trying to find out. Oh, so there's a, there's an. exhibit at the Stanley on the science of cryonics and so they've got the frozen dead guy
Starting point is 01:43:54 that they're trying to get him to the um okay to the frozen dead so it's a little like that traveling um the bodies bodies exhibit yeah okay i could see that there's legal ways for some of that stuff yes exactly that's wild it'd be great if they just laid him in the maze in the foot tall hedging they would lay him in the maze that'd be cool i you know what i'll be honest with you Cole. When I heard Brian had said this earlier, he said you were going to tour the place. When he said that, I went, oh, man, there's no way I'd do that. But now that you've described everything and it sounds like they really leaned into it, I think I would. I think I'd go. Heck yeah. Drive, drive over. We'll do the tour together. We have a 10 o'clock, 10 p.m. 1,
Starting point is 01:44:36 2. We can do it at night. That's true. I can be there by then. Does, uh, is so I hear, but your husband and your kids don't want to go, right? Is that the I don't know. They don't care. I love it. You know, if you do a nighttime one on Saturday, let's talk, because I might be, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm doing Fan Expo on Saturday. Oh, but see, coming back, I have to drive back. Yeah, it's a two hour.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Yeah, two hour drive back. We can sleep on our floor if you want. Well, I'd also have to get up and do film sec with two of these guys next morning. So, all right, all right. We'll see. We'll see. We'll talk. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Yeah, might be a way to make it work. There's also a seance, this dude. That guy. And they have, like, a magician's that come there, too. Look at that dude, though. He looks like he's full of some real bullshit, that guy. What is it about if you wear a three-piece suit, the long hair spilling out onto the shoulders always feels greasy. Like, it's always like, like you're damaging the outfit somehow.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Yeah. This guy sucks. What is that? I don't know, but I don't believe anything he ever says this guy. Never. This is not a guy. Here's a shot, by the way, putting it in our chat of the. front of the Stanley Hotel and the one foot high hedge maze that you can walk through
Starting point is 01:45:51 in front of it. Oh, yeah, look at that. That's as big as it ever is. It will get bigger. But wait, in the movie, though, but in the movie, does it, is that all just, that's all faked then. There's no. It's all fake in the movie.
Starting point is 01:46:08 The Stanley Hotel was just used for like, I think, was it just the inspiration? It wasn't even used for external shots, right? Or was it used for? I don't. I don't know if it was external shots, but I know Stephen King stayed there and he got the inspiration for the book. I think it was the one with Stephen Weber used this one. Oh, and the remake, yeah, as the external shots.
Starting point is 01:46:32 So, yeah, none of the stuff that you see in the shining movie was from Estes Park. Yeah, because that hedge maids in the movie, they make it seem like everything is nine feet tall, like, or more. That's crazy. Like labyrinths. Like the goblet of fire. in that back there yeah wild uh well all right then this is this has been a full generous episode of things randy what are we doing for film sack this weekend by the we're watching the mighty ducks oh man has come up a couple times and it's going to be our second consecutive man himself we got a fan we have a
Starting point is 01:47:06 mighty ducks fan yeah yeah i'm i'm trying to think if i've even seen the mighty ducks i couldn't tell you seen it i know for sure that i've never seen the movie so looking forward to that i feel like second consecutive uh milo estavs movie can we do three no absolutely not but we can we no no have you done night of the roxbury no that's what that was from by the way what was wait what was from oh mighty dup man is milk himself meel u estemez we're definitely not doing that that movie's too like s andl comedy stuff never so good oh i'm sure Sure, it's good, but they're hard to say. Super hard you do for FilmSack, though, with the S&L comedies.
Starting point is 01:47:48 They're not very sacky, you know? What? Yeah, we never do. This is a longstanding tradition on film set. Comedy, comedies are tough on film sack because you can't make fun of a thing that's already busy making fun of itself. Especially those, because they're all parodies, right? Like, they're not. It gets so tiresome to say over and over whether you liked a joke or not, you know, there's another joke.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Do you like it or not? But we will watch, you know, giant spiders eat people in the 50s or whatever. We'll watch stupid shit. Yeah. We don't kill her clowns from outer space. We'll watch that. I ain't watching no comedies. Well, anyway, it's good to have you both here.
Starting point is 01:48:21 And good luck to you and your trip and all that. Brandy, we'll see you this weekend. Happy Independence Day. Yeah, stay out of trouble. We'll see you later. Bye, Randy. Bye, Randy. Bye, Nicole.
Starting point is 01:48:33 All right. Well, we did it, Brian. We did it. We pulled it off. We did it. Yeah. We did it, everybody. So just, you know, whatever you bet money today that we wouldn't do it, too bad.
Starting point is 01:48:42 We did it. You just lost all your money. That's right. You degenerate gamblers. That is it, though. We're out of here. Reminder that you want to keep an eye on the frogpants.com slash store link tomorrow because a bunch of stuff will be on sale.
Starting point is 01:48:56 It's stupid, stupid cheap. It's basically just to cover shipping. It's cheaper to ship it to you, the buyer, than it would be to ship it back to Scott and then ship it to you. 100% correct. Like, we are really going to blow this thing out. And my daughter is so good at this stuff. you're going to get the coolest packages
Starting point is 01:49:14 with little extras and a nice little card perfectly packaged. She's a huge nerd for that stuff. So, very excited about all that moving forward. Check it out tomorrow. That's frogpants.com slash store. And Brian, you mentioned you may be doing coverville early. Is that still a thing or no?
Starting point is 01:49:27 Yeah, I'm going to do coverville tomorrow, but I'm going to do it early in the day. So let's celebrate America's independence with a British band called The Kinks. Ray Davies just turned 80. and so of course covers of things like Lola and you really got me and all day and all of the night
Starting point is 01:49:47 Waterloo Sunset one of my favorite celluloid heroes and covers by folks like Colin Hay from men at work the scorpions the bird and the bee Sherry Curry from the runaways less than Jake I mean it is a oh Ace Freely who we talked about earlier today
Starting point is 01:50:02 as part of kiss it is going to be a jam-packed show and one of my favorite one of my favorite bands from the British, I guess post-British invasion, early New Wave era, the kinks. So come dancing on Coverville tomorrow morning. Let's just say, let's say 9 o'clock in.
Starting point is 01:50:21 So typical TMS time, actually, is when I'll start it. Cool, yeah, that's a good reminder. There is no show tomorrow. We're taking it off for the 4th of July, and we hope everybody has a safe and fun holiday. Sorry, international listeners. We do have some holidays that don't jive with the rest of you. Also, if you guys don't like the kinks,
Starting point is 01:50:37 no kink shaming. Very good. Oh gosh. All right. That's it. Brian, let's play a song. It's probably not the kinks,
Starting point is 01:50:46 but it'll be somebody. It's not the kinks. Nope, it's links. Hi, Scott and Brian. I'm a longtime listener of six or seven years. Thanks to my dad
Starting point is 01:50:53 playing your podcast on long road trips. Oh, boy. You're going to end up. You're going to like this. I can definitely see while you'll like this after six or seven hours.
Starting point is 01:51:02 My birthday was on Tuesday last week, and I'm hoping I can get a happy birthday sound bite from Scott, prayer hands emoji. Oh, uh, wait. Doesn't say what his birthday, what year, but, uh, let's do, he doesn't, we don't know how old?
Starting point is 01:51:18 No, but his dad played, uh, our podcast on lung road trips. I'm going to say younger. Okay, then I'll give him two things. Diarrere. Let's party. So it's the fun young one, but just a little diarrhea. Little diarrhea at the, at the beginning. Nice.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Uh, regardless, you guys never fail to make me laugh. And I'm always gaining something for, one of your shows. Keep Up the Great Work, signed Mason. Mason really likes the song Numb by Lincoln Park. I really like Robin Adele Anderson, one of the vocalists you hear all the time from Postmodern Jukebox. But she's put out several solo albums in 2019. She released her third one, which was appropriately titled Volume 3. Big shout out to Gene. I hope you're still friends with Robin Adele Anderson, Gene out in Brooklyn. They had a little dating for a while. Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Yeah, and lucky, lucky man. Here she is singing Lincoln Parks Numb in kind of a fun little burlesky vaudeville-y kind of way. It's awesome stuff. Robin Adele Anderson. Tired of being what you want me to be Feeling so fatheless lost under the surface Don't know what you're expecting of me Put under the pressure for walking in your shoes
Starting point is 01:52:58 Every step that I take is another mistake to you Every second I waste is more than I can take I've become so numb, I can't feel you there, become so tired, so much more aware, by becoming this, all I want to do is be more like me and be less like you. Can't you see that you're smothering me? Holding too closely, afraid to lose control
Starting point is 01:53:47 It's everything that you thought I would be Has fallen apart right in front of you Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertow Every step that I take is another mistake to you Caught in the undertow, just caught in the undertoe Every second I waste is more than I can take I've become so numb, I can't feel you there, Become so tired, so much more aware
Starting point is 01:54:22 By becoming this I want to do Is be more like me, and be less like And I know I may end up failing to And I know that you were just like me We're so disappointed in you I've become so numb, I can't feel you there Become so tired, so much more aware
Starting point is 01:55:00 By becoming this, All I want to do is be more like me and be less like I've become so numb, I can feel you there. Become so tired, so much more aware by becoming this. All I want to do is be more like me and be less like you. This show you're part of the Frog Pants Network. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes. Get more at FrogPants.
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