The Morning Stream - TMS 2671: Hairyola

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Tina for scale. The Morning Nonsense. Brian Ibbott Fan Expo. Nipple Business. Vegetables of Courage. Thrust and Torque in the pool. Moist Fireworks. Hot Fart American Summer. Secondhand Goose Water. We Do Nonsense. Wooden wiener target. Don't build on ancient teenage makeout grounds. Relaxing the cables. Convalescing With Con Crud. Let The Wookie Win With Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Convalessing with Concrud Let the Wookie Win with Bobby and more On this episode of The Morning Stream I wanted to see what would happen if I got this weiner And launched it downrange in this giant slingshot And try to slam the wiener into a wood target You're forbidden to leave your hotel room MMS

The morning stream. That's the bravest thing I've ever seen a vegetable do. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, July 8th, 2024. Scott Johnson here, Brian a bit there. Hello. I am here and you are there.

a month from uh brian's birthday or so a little shy of that right oh about a week from scots if we're gonna play that game yeah you want to you want to get picky about it it's uh not very far what i'm gonna get you oh don't worry about me at all i need nothing in this world as if i haven't already started it come on now silly you big silly yours is already done too i've had it done for a month i know you but you were you said you're really excited about that one i really was i got I all jazzed about it and cranked on it, got it done early. And then I was like, okay, now what? Now I have it just waiting to ship.

Well, anyway, it's good to see you all. We're here. We're back. It's a Monday. It's a new week. And, you know, the 4th of July happened. Everybody had their fun here in the States. I hope, you know, we still have the 24th here, which is a statehood pioneer day thing

where we have more fireworks. Yeah, it's basically the, hey, remember all those extra fireworks you bought that you didn't illegally shoot off on the fourth? Well, you can shoot them off later this month. Don't worry, folks. Yeah, I can't wait for that. But I got to tell you a funny story about that, that happened. Yeah, yeah.

We were at my sister's all day at the pool, and it was very nice. Kim made tacos, you know, traditional Fourth of July food, tacos. Right. Oh, my gosh. Fourth of July, synonymous with tacos. Yeah. The folded Mexican, is it a sandwich? Oh, and now we can get that.

We can go down that path. Let's start that. Let's not start that rabbit hole. It was really good, but, you know, we could have had burgers and stuff, I suppose, but she decided to go tacos. And on Cinco de Mayo, maybe we'll do burgers and hot dogs. I don't know. We'll see how that goes.

Sure. Come the next time there is one of those. But anyway, it was really fun. We were splashing around, having a good time. My brother-in-law, Ken, bought these cool. They're almost like, you know, movies that feature a lot of underwater stuff, like the abyss or things like that. It seems like everybody in those movies has some kind of little personal

propelled thing. You grip it. Oh, yeah. It's almost like a little drone kind of thing that you just hold on to and it pulls you through the water. Yeah, and he picked, he bought two of these so that the kids could use them.

The adults did too. I did. It was great. But he bought a couple of these things. It's just small and you charge them, just USBC charge them and you take him out in the pool. And they have surprising amounts of thrust and torque and just zipping around the pool like a weirdo in this thing.

you know and I'm wearing my hat because I don't like to get sunburned because you can get the skiing kids you know and I don't want that so I'm flying around on this thing it was awesome so we're having all kinds of fun like that and and people are jumping off diving boards I forgot Nick can do like a freaking backflip in the oh really wow forgot he could even do that but babies are there everyone's having a good time so we're thinking all right this is really what the fourth is about nice and hot breezy beautiful day great food good company blah blah blah and then we go home and we think what do we want to do want to go to try to see something you want to see a drone show do we want to go to the fireworks what we want to do and we're

like you know what we'll do we'll do the easy thing we go over to the ridge near us that looks over the entire valley and we'll just see the whole valley popping off that's how we'll do it so we do this way to do it we go over there and like last year we find a strip that is not populated with a bunch of dummies of grass and it's kind of a you know there's the curb there's this grass strip and then there's a path and then there's a bunch of weeds and then there's a park down below that we want to be up high so we just take a strip of grass lay out a couple of blankets got snacks you know it's me me kim carter and alicia are all there cool and we're waiting we're waiting for the the deal to begin and it's starting to get dark and things are just starting to you know light up a

little bit out there. You're seeing people launch stuff. And while I'm just sitting there chilling, all of a sudden you hear this sound that goes, shh, ch, ch, chich, chich, ch, chich, chich, chich, ch. Oh, no, Jason Voorhe's was coming to get you. I wish. I wish. I would have been, I would have been less wet and it would have put me out of my misery because the sprinklers go on. Now, that's fine. They had them, that's a weird time to schedule it, but whatever, it was going off at like nine o'clock at night on, on 4th July. I get up. I think it feels on purpose because it's just the strip we're on and it's not on purpose. There's nobody anywhere in a window that can do that with a button. It's not a, um, uh, it's not

somebody's property. Like you're not on somebody's lawn where they could just go and flick a switch. It's, you're on like a open space park, edge of a park kind of thing. Yeah. And those guys are, they're all automated. It's still a strange time to have them go off, but whatever. It's fine. And last year they didn't go off at all. So boy, those, those dummies who weren't on that, uh, occupied swath of land. I know. They're all crowded over there in the park area and we're like, well, we're going to avoid that crowd.

Now they're dry. They might be crowded, but they're dry. But anyway, so this thing starts kicking off and we, of course, you know, spaz out to get out of the way of the water and all that. Yeah. This is the only bad part. That stuff just a funny, ha ha ha, you guys got wet, dummies, ha, whatever. It's a hot summer night.

Who cares? Right. You were just to the pool anyway, obviously, in clothes that were made. for the pool, but... The problem is, this is secondary non-potable water. Oh, like gray water kind of stuff. Well, I guess maybe not gray water, but it's...

What do they call that? Right. Yeah, it's... Secondary? I think non-potable water is a good example of that. It's like the stuff that the city uses to water open spaces that aren't... Yeah.

So it's not sewer water... No, no. It's usually stuff they either collect through rain collection or they get it off local lakes or ponds or reservoirs or something like that. and in this case we have a lake so this is literally water off the lake and or the runoff from the lake and that's normally fine but i think the geese are having a moment this year of real reproduction excitement oh really okay and the water that came out of this these sprinklers and got on us was the most eggy nasty smell oh like the sulfury eggy smell yeah like a big like a big fart like a room full of hot farts as veronica would say yeah yeah yeah it's a really bad. And so it got on our clothes. And for the rest of the night, we smelled like stinky eggs. Oof. Yeah. It was great. Happy Fourth of July, everybody. Happy Fourth of July. Another thing that's

synonymous with the Fourth of July, tacos and smelling of eggs. Yeah. Did you guys do anything for the fourth specifically? Like we did. Yeah. We went to, so we got a friend, uh, Mike and Bridget, who live in the highest part of Arvada. Like it is, there's a, it's a mountain called, I think Hackberry Hill used to be a makeout spot back in high school. Now they put a church, they basically put a church right on the spot that we always used to drive to to overlook the city and make out. Love that. Yeah, really, really nice.

Thanks a lot, church. Yeah, that's like building your holy site on an ancient Indian burial ground, you know. It really is, yes. So, but they live a little ways away from that, but still in that high point where we got on their roof. And same kind of thing, man. We were sitting up there and we could see not just all of our Vada, but downtown. We could see the Coors Field where the Rockies were having their fireworks display.

We could see like the edge of Littleton, red rocks, golden, basically, you know, again, seeing what you're seeing what you're seeing right with like the all the different fireworks displays. There was one stretch of it where I could not figure out like one stretch of the horizon. And obviously, because of the way we're looking, we're on that level and we're looking, you know, kind of like how constellations look a certain way to us from here. But if you were to fly in space, they'd be all spread apart and in different places and that sort of thing, right? It looked like just a row, like there was just a row of fireworks displays all going off right next to each other. Oh, my gosh. Like all just right in the line. I took video of it.

I need to post it. Oh, you should. This is the only time I want to see people's fireworks videos. something like that that's cool yeah it's it's just amazing like uh this this little stretch where it just felt like how how is anybody watching one of these when there's like eight of these going on where they could be you know looking in all directions trying to see this thing so yeah i'll uh i'll throw that up on uh threads or in the facebook tadpole facebook group or something like that but it was great we had a really good time up there played something called lawn

golf which is um you basically have a plastic chipping wedge club. It's still pretty heavy. I mean, it's a solid plastic thing at the end in a metal bar. Kind of ball. You could hurt someone with it. Something that's a little bit, somewhere between a wiffle ball and a hard plastic, um, uh, bachi ball, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. You put up these, um, these expandable rings. This whole thing compresses down just beautifully into like a duffel bag. But you put up. these little expandable rings and flags and then they're all numbered and you do basically go

all around the entire yard and it's like oh five is way over there okay chip bong go I'm going to go off the roof of the house you're basically playing off of it that's great it was great it was a really good time had a blast made some drinks these guys made some

guess what alpasteur uh taco filling and refried beans and chopped up red onion and shredded cheese and some little sprinkly cohita cheese and all that stuff. That's great. You guys went full Mexican too. Full Mexican as well. Yeah, Mike and Bridgett doing the full-on thing.

But oh, my God, so many dogs running around. It was great. It was such a good time. Yeah. We didn't, so, I mean, it's been non-stop fireworks here for the last two weeks because people, you know, are idiots and do them before or during and after. Yes. And we'll be doing it all the way until the end of July.

And they'll continue through the entirety of July, I'm sure. Yeah, because the 24th, we can't, you know, they do it all over again. So the dogs, while they don't freak out, they are skittish, you know. Oh, oh, that's a bummer. I hate that, yeah. Not too bad, like freaking out shaking or anything. But they're all just a little bit like, the hell's going on here. What's the deal here?

They say to themselves. Oh, yeah. You know? So it'll all work out. Man. A quick note about, I want to hear about the Fan Expo, but before we get there, a reminder that the folks at home who have not gone and grabbed a bunch of really, really ridiculously on sale merch items from the Frog Pants Store, now is your time to get over there and get that done because stuff's selling out. Some of the best ones are gone, but there's still stuff left. So head on over to frogpants.com slash store. And everything's stupid cheap right now. And we have over, we've given Taylor so much to do to ship all this stuff out. But she's willingly happy to do it because we want to make sure you guys get your stuff. So anyway, get over there and check it out.

Frogpants.com slash store. The big 4th of July sale continues at least for the next couple of days. And then all that stuff shipping this week. So we're very excited about it. All right, Brian, tell me all about the Danver Fan Expo that you went to. And not only went to, you starred in this thing, right? A start. I was on a, I was in a trivia panel on Saturday, thanks to.

Thanks to A&TP winner, David Luzader. Who did he beat? I can't remember. I don't know. Maybe somebody we'll talk to later on in the show. But David Luzader, who now lives in Denver. Can't remember where he was when he went through America's Next Top Podcaster. But he lives in Denver now. He's a teacher.

And because he's, you know, it's a summer break and he's not teaching, he's working on this game show that he's going to be doing regularly at a bar. downtown monthly at a bar downtown and it's called as seen on TV and it's a very cool TV themed trivia game show all about TV and the funny part is it's a non-TV

it's a live live game so pretty soon you'll be able to go to a bar and play this in person three contestants so it's not like bar trivia where everybody in the everybody in the room is competing you've actually got three contestants playing on stage

but you've got a lot of audience interaction they helped out a lot and we'll talk about that but um they put me up there against uh gray oh what is their name gray that was this like a celebrity dude somebody there was a um it was a woman well she her pronouns are they um she's a cosplayer and she was dressed as vash from not star trek but from i guess last airbender avatar the last airbender is there a Vashen or Vash? I don't know. Carter would know that.

Somebody would know that. And I don't know their full name, but they're on. I think they're on Instagram as gray clouds. And then an improv dude. And we were having a blast up there. I mean, basically, the point was more to be entertaining than to be accurate or play the game show or that sort of thing. However, oh, it must be Vash. Stampede. A lot of people know this one. Okay.

I'm sure that's who they were cosplaying as. So the trivia questions, first round was, I think, just kind of your buzz in. And it was, the first question was a stumper. Let's see how you do with it. What is the first North American

sci-fi TV series to last past seven seasons? I don't think I know this. Past seven? past seven oh Star Trek was always seven right next generation was only seven

and after waiting a while is like well I'm wondering if you know they counted something extra so I did buzz in and yes TNG even though I knew it was wrong I can't think of it it's not Stargate it's not oh um

90s is it limited to a decade or no it's not limited what was the first what was the very first North American sci-fi TV series to last past seven decades. I will tell you, if you want me to tell you, it's in the 90s, yeah. It is in the 90s.

Okay, hold on, let me try this. Now I feel the challenge is creeping up on me here. Sure. That's a good hint to tell you that it... 90s. 90s. Okay, it's... DS9 was seven seasons, so that doesn't count.

Even... Even Voyager was seven. Oh, my gosh. It couldn't have... It wasn't Babylon 5, I'll say. No, that's a good guess. And finally, one person, the Tadpool got, an incredible sausage got it, the X-Files. Oh!

It was the first sci-fi TV show to make it past seven seasons. Made 10 seasons, and then, of course, that bonus season we got a few years ago. And a couple spin-offs, right? Millennium and the blown gunman. Oh, right. Neither lasted long. Although, I guess Millennium got longer. I had a longer lasting thing.

than Lone Gunman. A little bit longer than Lone Gunman, yeah. But then there were questions like, I guess it was just kind of your basic trivia. Trivia questions in that first part, which character has had a speaking part on every single episode of The Simpsons. I buzzed in with that one as Homer Simpson.

I think even we talked about it on the show. Right. But second round was, he shows us a photo of a spaceship from a TV show. And we have to name the ship and the captain. and, of course, got the very first one is exactly the one you'd expect, Serenity, Captain Mal Reynolds, had the Planet Express ship with Taranga Lila, had Battlestar Galactica with Admiral Adama. They showed the Farscape ship.

I had absolutely no idea what that was called. They showed... I love Farscape, but I don't remember the name of the ship either. That's completely lost on me. Yeah, cowboy bebop, no idea. yeah um but uh and then the the third uh was a right-in round where you he would uh show you somebody's name tag with their actual name on it and then you would say oh that character that character's better known as blah blah blah so arthur faunzarelli was the easy gimmee kind of to get us in the

in the mood so of course you know fonsie or the fons sure um but then you had like james ford it's like okay you're speaking my language yeah that's Sawyer on last you had I can't even remember the guy's full name the part that is the trigger for me is Turwilliger. Does that do anything? Terwilliger, Terwilliger. Terwilliger. Terwilliger.

Oh, what is that? Something, Turwilliger the third is the full name. And don't look at the tadpole. I won't, I won't. Is that Terwilliger, Terwilliger, Terwilliger. It's starting to sound weird. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, oh, Kelsey Grammer. Oh, shit. This is why I would do bad on stage for trivia. Robert Underdunkter Williger Jr. There you, Ph.D. Side show Bob. That's exactly right. Side Show Bob.

Yep. I got that one to a full room of applause, by the way. That's really good. That's hard. I wouldn't have been able to do it under pressure. I barely could do it here. Yeah. Jane Hopper. How about that one?

Jane Hopper. Jane Hopper. Jane Hopper. Yeah. I felt stupid for missing this one. So you'd miss this one? You still rocked. You destroyed everybody, though, right? You won. I did. The final score was 24 to 9 to 5. Jane Hopper? Jane Hopper.

Jane Hopper. I don't know. I don't know who that is. Here's a hint. She loves ego waffles. She loves eggos. oh uh well no that the girl the the the stranger things uh 11 oh yeah okay jane her name's jane hopper jane hopper yeah in the show her name is jane hopper i've only seen her name is jane hopper i've seen season one and i think they just called her 11 in there i've never seen the rest of that show they did they only called her 11 but then she uh we found out her real name was jane and then she got adopted

by what's his face, Hopper. Oh, okay. Kevin Spacey and Bug's Life. Got it. Right. Yeah, Jane Ives was her birth name. Anyway, so rocked through that one. Then the final question was a list of character names. At the top, it said, name the team, and then name their names within that team. Okay.

And I started looking through the list, I'm like, I don't know, Zach, Kimberly, I don't know any of these things. I'm like, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. Kimberly, Kimberly, Kimberly. That's a Pink Ranger. That's a Power Ranger, yeah. Yeah, because I was originally thinking, oh, Zach, okay, this may be some saved by the Bell thing, but that's not terribly, you know, that's not terribly sci-fi. So, yeah, I went through the list, I said, all right, Power Rangers at the top. Kimberly, I remember, was pink because they were racist, the woman with the Asian,

sounding name. Retrini, I think, was yellow. I think this dude was the black Ranger. Here's the green one, blue one. Of the six, I got four of them. I flip-flopped, I think green and blue or something.

Amy Joe, what was her name? The Pink Ranger? Amy, we just talked about her. Oh, the actress? Yeah. I had the biggest crush on her. Yeah. Well, who didn't back in the day? But I'll tell you this. How many episodes of Mighty Morphing and Power Rangers has Brian ever seen? I'm going to guess zero, yeah.

That's zero. It doesn't seem like you're not really your jam. That never was like I was too, it came after I would have been watching that and too early for Tristan to, for me to watch it with him, like for him to watch it and for me to watch it with him. Oh, Amy Joe Johnson. She has my last name. You're right, chat room. It's really funny. How did I forget that?

She's only, she's roughly like six months older than me as all. Oh, really? Younger, rather, sorry. She's roughly my age. So when I had a crush on her, it was appropriate. It was an age-appropriate crush. That's right. That's right.

Well, we wandered through. I bought a few things. Oh, it was a place. There was a bunch of comic book shops, right, that we went through the vendor area. And a bunch of comic book shops and toy shops and things like that. I picked up a Spider-Man mystery box. You know, keychain, lanyard. A really nice, actually, a really soft Spider-Man throw, which

I'm super excited about. Nice. But then there was a comic book shop that was having a sale on graphic novels, like an entire huge bookshelf, you know, six bookcases of these. And so I picked up a bunch of stuff on characters that I know nothing about, new Marvel characters that have been introduced since I've kind of shifted my focus to like, all right, Spider-Man, X-Men, big crossover things. So Arrow, Swordmaster, a few characters that have come out,

more Young Avengers stuff because I don't know about it. So picked up some graphic novels. Five graphic novels for 20 bucks. Four bucks each. It's not bad.

For these $18 Marvel graphic novels. That's great. I never read any of the Hellfire Gala stuff from the X-Men. So I was like, oh, I'll pick that one up too. You're an incredible deal. You'll probably read all that, right? You'll read those.

I will definitely read all that. Yeah, I've got them upstairs on the next to the next to the couch where I sit and where Tina will watch her show and where I will read graphic moments. I love those times. I love when Kim's got a thing I don't like and then I can just sit there, either play

a game or read a book or whatever. I love that. Yeah. Oh, it's the best. It's like, hey, we're spending time together, but we're doing our own things. Yep. When you guys are married for a real long time, it's honestly, literally, is one of the greatest things about being married for a long time. It really is. I love it. Yeah. Love it. Speaking of Tina,

in addition to being really worried about the size of the photograph, how it looked this Marvel United Multiverse game set that I was going to be receiving. Once it arrived, it's like, oh, this isn't bad at all, right? It was, I put some photos up on threads. The photo I saw, you know, when you guys saw, I thought this is like, oh, my God, this is like massive. And then it arrives and it's like, no, they're not really settlers of Gatan boxes. They're, you know, they're like small pizza boxes thicker than small pizza boxes but i'm going to find this real quick where did you end up where did you first put it in discord uh if you

in the film sac chat in discord or i put it on threads as well well i'm in the film sack discord but i don't for whatever reason i thought you put the one that looked big in there too and i don't see it i did i did scroll up to it's up before all of our discussion all the photos okay here it is right before your uh your lyrics were posted there it is right yes yes okay so look at this chat when we were all talking on film We saw this, and first of all, we thought this was a floor or a deck, and so we thought, oh, shit. It looks like a deck, yeah, yeah. It looks like a massive stack. And if you imagine each of those boxes as being as big as like a Settler's a Tann box, it's like, oh, my God, that looks like a massive set of games.

Yeah, it looks like Shack could hide behind it. That's how big this looks, right? Yeah. And then, Brian sends a picture relative to Tina. Whoops, where I go. It's a lot less intimidating when you've got Tina sitting next to it. You know? Yeah.

But we really thought, oh, my God, it's going to be. Because this is the third box of those Marvel United games that I've got. And I'm thinking this is going to be the last one. I can't think of any. They are so dipping into the well on characters. This one came with a fin-fan foon for pizza. Oh, my gosh. No, that's a thing.

Barely anyone knows about. It's a deep cut. Yeah. Terrax the Terrax, the Tamer, et cetera, et cetera. And yes, another freaking Galactus for me to paint. Damn it. I just thought I thought I was done. No, the world. You're never done with the world eater, dude. Never. Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in.

Yeah, that was a really, that was a crazy optical illusion. We couldn't believe it. Yes, it really was. But sure enough, the con had their way with Tina, and she is now upstairs convalescing on the couch with a little case of con crud. Oh, no. That's not good. Yeah, those places will give it to you, man. That's what they do. They will. Fan X, going to give it to you. That's right. Real quick, Vash, I guess, is the character from, or Vash the Stampede is the character from Trigone.

That's who that is. Trigun. Is that right, Carter? Trigun is Vash? Is she over there? Oh, she went upstairs. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the show.

TRIGN, exactly right. I'm looking at photos or not photos, but drawings. That's absolutely who they were. was playing as. The new series they did last year is very cool. It's like a CG but looks traditional and it's hard to explain. It's a weird combination. It's pretty awesome.

Let me send you a photo really quick of us at the table. Yeah, do it. It's a great action shot of the two people I'm playing against and my confidence level at the time. Here you go, sending it to you right now. Text or Discord?

Via text. Okay, no problem. It was easier. no problem at all oh yeah look at this let's see here there we go

here you go chat look at all that trivia going on all that trivia happening and that's David Luzator on the far right there hosting the show really really cool guy

he's great he's awesome sit and talk with him for a little bit and you know he might be able to pop in every once in all if you want and give us some TV trivia questions if we so desire. And we've got plenty of stuff with the game shows I do and the stuff TV Travis doing. Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing from him, though.

He's great. We could have him on deck for a thing of TV trivia when somebody has to tap out for an episode. Has to bail. Well, excellent. That's awesome. Yeah. Anyways, it was a good time. Other than the Concret.

Partina, but other than that, it was a good time. I still, speaking of my streaks. The one streak I still have is I've never gotten sick at a con. I don't know why. Everyone else around me does. I just don't get it. You and your health competition. I know.

I know. And I don't even know why this one happened because I'm not that careful. I wash my hands a lot and I don't touch my face. And you don't touch your face. That is the key right there. That is the thing you should, you know, if you listen to nothing else. Yeah. About protecting yourself from Concrete.

And Tina even wore a mask the second day. She didn't have one. um the first day and i think that might have been when it snuck in yeah yeah well i hope she gets well quick that's she will i'm sure she will and uh yeah well let's move on to some some half asses all right speaking of trivia let's do a little of that let's get done away in here he has to be here for it i know he's around i know he's got things thought scott had a sniffle after blizzcon nope nope nope nine of twelve not a single bliscon illness not once I couldn't believe it either.

I'm telling you. If it's going to happen, that's where it's going to happen. That's where it happened. I hug a lot of people. I shake tons of hands. Like, that place is bonkers with the kind of interaction I have. And I would always come home fine. And all my friends would, although Brian never hardly ever got sick of Bliscon either, I noticed.

No, no. I had one, I think I had one of the years got sick at BlizzCon. But, yeah. Well, I just got lucky. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, all it takes, you don't even have to touch your face. You can just be around somebody. And we hugged so many people at that stuff and shook hands and did so much stuff, you know, with meeting people.

You know, if it happens, it happens. And it happens. Yeah, it happens. And when it happens, you'll be ready for it. That's right. All right. Here comes the Dunaway right here. Whoops, that music's quiet.

Brian Dunaway, welcome to the program. How are you? No, hi, Scott. Brian doing pretty good, man. you know it was great i'll tell you what was great we had a great film sack that was great oh yeah the mighty ducks yep the mighty ducks who would have thought the mighty ducks would have been a good film sack that it was yeah there were many ducks given that day yeah i did that somebody somebody sent me a message offline and said why or did it nothing so far has felt big action hot

action movie summer for us yet and it kind of as a point all these movies are kind of you know summer just started summer just started a week and a half ago isn't it hot enough do you really need big action we just yeah our very next movie is like scarface which is also a weird fit it's true you know what i think it was that randy had this list going together and then we had took a month off we took a month off i mean we had my my ms 150 ride we had my trip to vegas so i kind of you know if you're going to complain about why we're not having a lot of Hot-action movie soccer fans play me.

But come on. After Scarface in our Scott's birthday roundtable episode,

we've got Robocop 3. We've got Transformers from 2007. We've got Army of thieves. We've got

Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. Can't believe we haven't watched that one already. We've got Ewox Battle for Endor. Boy,

you can't, you know, show me anyone's favorite summer action movie list that doesn't include EWX's

battle for Endor. Yeah, they don't exist. doesn't exist. You know, that's, that's an amazing thing. The horrendous Oceans 12, Omega Doom. Oh, by the way, guys, there's, I found a photo that's been floating around of Keanu Reeves playing for his band, what are they called, horse dog or something?

What is it? Nail it. Dog star. Dog star. No, horse dog better. Horse dog's better. I'll put this in our, I'll put this in our Discord real quick. I think this should start rumors that some sort of Matrix thing is being filmed because he shaved

his head and eyebrows. Look at that. Yeah, I like that. Oh, look, his eyebrows, too. Yeah, I'm kidding. Yeah, that to me looks like Neo in the pod. Like, he's casting some copper or something. Yeah.

Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned around right there and had like a neck hole, you know, with the. Did we ever get, uh, I'm just trying to think of movies that I've blacked out from the Matrix series and even the cool stuff that we saw in Animatrix that I'm forgetting. But did we ever get like a movie that showed the, the actual takeover and, and just. the animatrix stuff that was it yeah okay but they did show it in there they had a whole thing on the animatrix of the pod switchover stuff yeah did they okay all right well so maybe you know maybe that's why he looks like that is uh they're filming a uh matrix day one kind of like uh day one kind of like the quiet place day one my guess is it's just him chilling but i don't who knows it's hot he's i don't know i don't know why i'm shaving my eyebrows yeah that's the thing is

eyebrow you know your head i get it your eyebrows i don't know something that's yeah exactly shaving your head i get that aren't you supposed to be carefully shaving your eyebrows can't you like make them angry and they'll never come back exactly yeah is that true they'll like stunt them and they won't come is i definitely they grow slower than other hair on your head and face yeah yeah plucking them is a bad idea because there's only so many roots in there right but yeah shaving them probably a bad idea too All right. It's good to know. I was about to do it.

Just kidding. Well, no, not once you get over 50, they just start growing really fast. It doesn't matter. You're good. No, that's true. I got more hair up there than I know what to do with my ear. I trimmed the inside of my ears this morning. And I had just done that two days ago.

What the freaking hell's going on there? Transplant that stuff, man. I got you a new hair line. I got some nipple business I never used to get. Don't know what that's about. Got some nipple business to you. Yeah. Nipple business.

Yeah, nipple hair business. My whole life. No nipple hair. Suddenly, boo. You're hitting that next phase of life. Yeah. My ariola is a harriola. Hirola. You know who shaved his eyebrows was Eugene Levy. And now look at them. Oh, yeah, look what he did to himself.

They grew back thick and luxurious. He keeps his change in there. Anyway, let's get to the game here. Brian, you want to explain how this is going to work and who's going to win what and all that? yeah okay I'll do it welcome in the morning half ass is a trivia game

where I'm actually going to be giving you guys the answers I'm going to give Scott and Brennan category and six possible answers three of which are correct and three that are incorrect like Abe Vigota's eyebrows depending on how confident they feel

with the category they can provide one two or three guesses but if any of those guesses wrong you get zero points for that round get one right gets you a point get two right gets two point three points two right three points how many points do I get again

right gets you five points. Is there anybody out there who doesn't know how this goes? If you get any wrong, you get zero points for that round. The player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant. Contestants will be pulled from members of the tadpull that aren't able to listen live. Scott, you're playing for Jay Goodrich,

aka Badpour in upstate New York. Bad poor, like Bad Poor, Mr. Badpour. Oh, hi. Like rain pour or like pours? I think like he pours drinks badly. Okay, no. Oh, that's a, like he's a bartender who gives you less than an ounce and a half in the shot that he just poured you right but not like he's here look at that not like

you can tell us you can tell us why you're bad poor by the way yeah just but not like plugged up skinhole not that kind of pour right oh no no no p o you are okay yeah yeah yeah p o you are you are all right brian you're playing for kevin martin who uh might pour shots just fine in kenton georgia oh yeah we like georgia georgia's on my mind as well this is great let's do it yeah all right well let's uh get to our game uh i'll used to make beer um Under that name, says Jay. All right, cool. Very cool.

All right. Now what do you make beer under? Under dark of night. Let's get to question number one. Let's start with some sports. Let's pull the sports band-aid off really quick here. Which of these are New York Yankee nicknames? Nicknames for players on the New York Yankees.

Your choices are, boom. The Splendid Splinter, the Sultan of Swat. The Little Colonel, the chairman of the board, the Commerce Comet, and the Big Train. Three of those are nicknames for New York Yankees. I love the little colonel, but I ain't picking. York. The little Colonel. You're the little Colonel.

Go out there and score a bat point. I've got a little kernel in my teeth. I did that the other day. I had a kernel. I had one of those little sliver kernels that you get from eating popcorn that was like so down far into my gum. line. Oh, my gosh. It just digs in. It's like, I'm not coming out. Yeah, I hated that.

Yeah. Anyway. All right. Do you guys both settled on the Sultan of the Swat very quickly? Of course, that is. We've all watched the sandlot, and we just talked about it yesterday. You don't know anything else. You've got to know that. Chairman of the Board, you guys

also chose that one. Both of you chose that one. That's Whitey Ford. Yep, he was also a Yankee. The third choice Damn Yankee. Was the Commerce Comet. Damn it.

That is, Mickey Mantle was the Commerce Comet. Walter Johnson. Scott, you chose the big train. That's Walter Johnson. Shares your last name. No wonder you picked him. Totally makes sense. The Splendid Splinter is Ted Williams,

and the little Colonel was Pee Wee Reese. Was he a little guy? Was he a little dude? Okay. Or is he ironic. Wait, did he have two nicknames or was his first real name Peewee? Oh, yeah, must have had two nicknames, right? Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, I'm sure his first name wasn't really Peeweewee. Man, that's a bummer, dude. Yeah, exactly. Boy, how tidy are you? Pee-wee is. Oh, can you guys come up with something else? Okay, how about the little colonel? Damn it.

Forget it. You know what? Let's go back to Pee-wee. Yeah. I like you've given him a voice. That's amazing. All right. Brian, going into round two with three points, Scott with zero.

Let's see if we can get some points on the board for Scott with his favorite board game of all time. Monopoly. Which of these are Monopoly tokens that were retired? in the 1950s. The rocking horse, the cane, the purse, the iron, the lantern, and the martini glass. Three of these are actual monopoly tokens that were created and retired in the 1950s. These all feel right and wrong at the same time. I mean, I feel like I have to go for it.

You got to go for you. Yeah. Is that an easy e-rap or something there, Brian? No, I just felt very easy e-rap. I've been playing, I've been playing some Dreamcast games. I just feel like you have to yell everything. Yeah, that's true. That's what they did back.

You're playing jet set radio or jet set radio. Yeah, that's pretty kidding. Sliding around on everything. It was an amazing game. Yeah. You guys are both locked in. Scott, you did pick three. Very good.

Brian, you picked just one. And the one you picked Brian was Kane. And that one is incorrect. Oh, yeah. You also picked that. uh rocking horse was retired um in the 50s lantern there was an actual lantern uh piece and purse uh was i want to know about the lantern is monopoly so old that it was pre electricity it was 1950s yeah we had we had uh there was 19 50s i think that the game was uh created to

boy they didn't waste no time retiring stuff them they were stars up a couple years ago right yeah Yeah. Oh, 1930s, says Captain Kipper. I thought it was, I thought it was in 1950s. Still had electricity then, though. The board I have on the wall is 1950s, and it does not have a lantern or a purse. It might have a rocking horse, though. Martine Glass and Kane were made up, and iron was just retired more recently in 2013. I played iron before, so I know that one has. Yeah, the flat iron.

Yep. All right. Well, let's get to music for category number three. again, Brian has three points. Scott has zero going to the third round. Scott's got to put some points on the board to have a fighting chance. And I think Lady Gaga might give it to him. Which are these are words you'll find in the lyrics of

Lady Gaga's poker face. Yeah. Pau-papa, poker face. Pup-pah. Poker's not on here. Poker nor face nor pa-papa is not on here. Your choices are mullah, muffin, end,

chess, Russian, and spades. Oh my gosh, dude. I don't effing no. Right and wrong. And chess, Russian and spades. My, my, my, muffin face. My, my, my, my, my, my, mullah muffin. And I don't effin know.

You know what. And in, in, I'm doing, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm just going. I'm just doing. You got to go. You got to go. Well, this one makes sense.

So I'm putting that one in there. Okay. Oh, Brian's just going with one. Scott's going with three. Scott. So I'm bluffing with. my muffin. You picked muffin. That's right. That's absolutely. Did you really? I did.

Yep. I didn't know it. I guessed. So don't, you know. And with the Russian something Russian, do she mention Russian roulette? She mentioned something Russian. And that's another one, Scott picked him. It is also correct. Look, is Scott killing it. And finally, the third one

is, oh, spades. So, Brian had the one, one of the three, spades. Muffin and Russian being the other two, words you'll find in the lyrics. No mula, no chess, no end. Bringing our final score, Brian, with four points, Scott with zero. Damn it, dude. You're kicking my ass lately on this thing. Yeah, Spade made sense. It's the only poker thing in there for poker. Oh, you get one of these.

Good job. Congratulations. Tell us, Brian, who won what? Yeah, congratulations going to Kevin Martin in Canton, Georgia. You're getting a copy of Eastside Hockey Manager. It's like your own Mighty Ducks game. that you'll be playing right there at home, as well as Observer, which is a little underscore, so it must mean something. I'm playing an Observer right now. The Observer is a cyberpunk

dystopic thing, and it stars the late great Rudder Hauer as the... Oh, really? As the character. And it's one of the worst acting performances he's ever delivered, but the game is great.

Wow. The game is legitimately good, but he's sort of terrible in it. Well, Kevin Martin, You're getting a copy of both of those games, courtesy of our friends in the Tadpool. But don't worry, Jay Goodrich and a bad poor. I think he's actually here in the chat room. Excuse me, you're getting a copy of Devil's Hunt.

Devils Hunt. I don't know what Devil's Hunt is. That sounds familiar, though. I think we've covered that one. We must have. I don't remember it. It's vaguely familiar, but I'm sure it's good, and he's also a winner. Everyone's a winner.

Congratulations. Congratulations. You're all winners. Dunaway, you're especially a big winner. And as a big winner, you get to come back Wednesday and try this all over again. How's that feeling? So we'll be playing something else. We'll be trying to guess what the hell, the Tadpool guest.

Yeah, that'll be a little bit different. And between then and now, you can play a lot of Jetset Radio between now and then. And that's great. There you go. That's on with that at all? Yeah, I wish you nothing at the best. I got my dream cast out, my Japanese, my Japan import, dreamcast, very excited. It is not glue, like the PAL versions that Scott recently discovered.

I am. I always forget that they had a different swirl color in every territory. It was weird. Oh, I didn't know that either. They used to do with names, so Mega Drive in Europe, Genesis here. But in this case, it was just Dreamcast Swirled Color. And I'll be playing Jet Grind Radio because I'm in North America, and apparently Tony Hawk has gaming has some influences.

Like Jet Set Radio, no, no, Jet Grind Radio. grind radio yeah that's right i keep forgetting they did that too and then in but in europe they called uh tony hock pro skater skateboarding yeah Tony hawk skateboarding so so so so lame dude banana boarding yeah it's real dumb anyway you're not dumb though and we love you and we'll see you soon by now all right there's that uh hey uh we're gonna jump into one news story all right one and uh it's gonna It's going to go like this. Time for the one new story you need today, brought to you by. Brought to you by some Brian Trivia, or Treva, I think is your there.

A crepuscular animal becomes active at what time? Yep. What time of day is a crepuscular animal? Well, nocturnal is night. I don't know what daytime, if there's a term for during the day, but then you've also kind of got dusk and dawn, too. but I wonder if there's anything that has those short periods of time that they're active. I'm going to say during the day, just a crepuscular during the day. You got it exactly right that name.

Nicely done. Perpustular. Did I get the answer? Yeah. Let's find it if you got their answer right. What'd you say it again? Sorry, daytime you said. During the day.

Yeah. Let's find out if that's correct. Is it correct? No, the answer is at dusk. It is a dusk. Okay. All right. So like deer and stuff like that possibly.

I know we see a lot of, that's when they tend to run across the road and we hit them. They're so dumb, deer sometimes. They're so dumb. I watched a deer in a video, run across a road, slam into the front of a McDonald's, and then run across the road again to the other side. Like, what are they doing? What are they even up to? That's so weird.

That was a double, a McDouble right there is what he did. Yeah, it was. Quick story here. This is a boy, this is what life's like in North Korea. North Korea executed a man for distributing K-pop. Oh, man. Oh, no. Yeah, you can't walk around with the BTS distribution.

Oh, right, because, yeah, that's only South Korean is the K-pop, right, North Korean, yeah. Although the rumor is that Kim Jong-un loves the K-pop, but... Really? Oh, well. Can't let his people listen to it. I love the BTS, the BTS and the Black Pink, really, or do it for me? Yeah, he's into it. As says his weird squatty self. Anyway, this is from, this is a report from some defectors.

A 22-year-old North Korean was publicly executed for watching and sharing South Korean films and music, a new report claims, highlighting Pyongyang's desperate attempts to stem the flow of outside information and culture. I don't know how they do that in a day like this or a day and time. I guess you just shut off all internet.

Yeah, you have your own internet that can't go to any sites that aren't approved by dear leader. Yeah. It's crazy. According to an unnamed defector's testimony, the young man from South Huangay province, I believe he'd say that. was publicly executed in 2022 for listing to 70 South Korean songs,

watching three films and distributing the media, falling foul of the North Korean law adopted in 2020 that bans reactionary ideology and culture. I'm sure that is a very broad blanket they have installed there. Right? Exactly. Anything they want can fall under that. The report details extensive efforts by North Korean authorities to control outside information flow,

especially targeting the youth, Other instances of crackdowns include punishments for a reactionary practices such as brides wearing white dresses, grooms carrying the bride, wearing sunglasses, or drinking alcohol from wine glasses. This is all seen as South Korean customs and beyond because some of this stuff. Wow. Sorry, Nazlurman, you are not free to wear sunglasses. Yeah, you're done. You're sorry. You're screwed.

Yeah. Well, anyway, there's your big story. And we, you know, you hope. hope for a future where North Korea can finally just fully collapse and join normalcy. That would be great. Right, exactly. Pretty upped up over there. Brian, we're going to take a break.

When we come back from this break, we're going to be with Bobby because Stephen had a thing, and Bobby very nicely stepped into his shoes today. And it was nice of him for two reasons. One, just doing it. But two, he's on his way to some mountain getaway for a few days. Oh, so it worked out pretty well for him too. Yeah, so we're going to get him before he goes. And you're going to play a song.

before any of that happens. I am. This will get you all in the mood for some sards. How about an artist who might have some echoes of gold frapp and bat for lashes? This is a band,

I'm sorry, this is an artist named Peyton Shea. She's got a brand new single called Lonely Chapstick. Her forthcoming EP is called Daydream Police. It's going to come out this summer.

But you're going to get to hear this now. She is an aspiring alt-pop artist from a small town outside of Los Angeles. and she recorded her first breakup song in middle school, didn't we all? She hasn't looked back since. This is the brand new song. It's Lonely Chapstick.

Here is Peyton Shea. Run, run, no, chapsick, not a taste from your lips. If I fold, bruise a show, I can be a jingo all around, never show. Distance is my favorite cope. For you I don't even think of myself I never knew I needed somebody

to figure me out I need it My only My only Chapsic My only, my only, my only, my only chapstick Sneaking round the boulevard echoes of your aftertaste I hate that you know

All the right things are sick, motion sick One word to steal We like when the waves I can't seem to figure out, figure out the slower things No time for you I don't even think of myself. I don't even think of me so low. I never knew.

I needed somebody to figure me out. I need it. You were my chapsid. My only chapsid. My only, my only, my only, my only chapsed. You were my chapsed. My only chapsed. I love my only my only my only my only my only my only I love the pain we left the game till I'm over and over it over and over again so

I'm over, over it, over again. I need it. You were my chapsid, my lonely chapsid, over, over again. I need it. You were my chapsed, my only chapsed, over, over again. Hey, I love the pain, we love the game, till I'm over and over it, over and over it. My only, my only, my only chapstick.

Until I'm over, over, over it, over it. My only, my only, my only, my only, my only chapstick. Want to start another game? You mean Mahjong? I don't know. Sounds like a good idea, but the fact is, I'm a little hard up right now. Think you better find yourself another sucker. I don't think I could find a bigger sucker than you.

See you later. This? This is beneath me. And we've returned. Tell me who that was one more time so I can go buy that whole damn album. You bet. That's Peyton Shea and her brand new song, Lonely Chapstick. Like you said, her forthcoming EP is called Daydream Police.

Comes out this summer. And it's produced by Adam Castile and mastered by John Greenham, who did Billy Elish, Girlin Red, and Gracie Adams album. So a nice little pedigree on that one. Peyton Shea is the artist. Nice. Very cool. Yeah.

All right. Bobby Incoming. Let's get some sign. it's happening. Yeah. Got to learn something today. We can't just have a show. We have to learn.

Learn. To make that happen, we've got to play this. There's still something wrong. No, wrong one. Why is that in that place? Science. There we go. Bob is hungry and the soup looks good.

It surely does. Bobby Frankenberger joining us two weeks in a row because he's nice and he decided to help us out today by stepping in for Stephen who had a thing. Bobby, welcome back. It's good to have you again. thank you thank you for having me well having you is better than not having you or something sure of course it is yeah that's how i see it uh it's very nice to see you uh you're on your way to the mountains and so we appreciate you taking time out of your mountain driving to to be here

i appreciate you taking my time because we're literally going to be uh leaving to drive like as soon as i'm done here we're getting in the car and going and that means that i don't have to pack anything into the car because Stephanie's doing it right now. Nicely done. Wow. So not only do we save you having to pack any audio equipment to do this remotely, but Stephanie's doing all the real heavy lifting. That's right. That's great. Well, I'm glad you could do it. Did we catch you at a time where you have some science information you like to share with the children? I've always got science. I'm always reading science stuff. So I just thought of the most recent thing I'd read that

sounded that was interesting to me and sure yeah and uh that's what we're going to talk about today um so a lot of the stuff lately that i've been reading is like it's like is like depressing end of human times stuff you know like oh no okay like like bird flu like how the u.s is having a terrible response to the bird flu that's happening right now um hurricane barrel is making everyone scared we're now in the era we're out of decent names for hurricanes aren't we we're just gonna call it barrel

barrel barrel barrel so we can say things like barrel barreling toward us and things like that yeah exactly lame lame but uh so I thought I picked something that was a little bit more uplifting and something that people can take home and and improve their lives

with and that is a paper that was just published on July 2nd so less than a week ago that um in the frontiers in veterinary science and it's about why nailing down why it is that your cats are always scratching like when they are aggressively scratching their your furniture what it is that's really causing them to do that and what we can do about it um because i i i am a previous a former cat owner brian i know that you have cats and have you ever had have you ever had cats that that are like like it's a problem how they scratch furniture yeah and and uh we put uh tape on the

corner of that like you get some packing tape and kind of put it on the corner of it because they don't like that that feeling and and that tends to work for a while but uh yeah but it gets irritating when you've got furniture now that has an edge that you can't have forward for when company comes over you got to kind of turn things or put a blanket over it or something yeah right Right, right. Exactly. So what these researchers were able to find out. So it was based on surveyed data. It was an interline. It's funny to say that it was an international collaboration. It makes it sound like a huge, like they're studying black hole data from across the universe or something. But they took, did surveys from French cat owners. So maybe this only applies to French cats. I don't know. but they surveyed a bunch of cat owners in France and asked about the undesirable scratching behaviors that their cats have, you know, how much they're doing, where they're doing it, and then also things about the environmental situation there in the home and just a bunch of stuff to try to see what they can figure out. And they narrowed down some correlations and found some factors that they think are influencing cat scratching behavior.

and there are four main things that they talked about. First, the biggest thing, actually, is children in your home seems to be a very big contributor to cats having a great... Now, let me say before I go too much further into this, these factors that I'm going to list, and they made a point to say this, these factors are not... It doesn't mean that if you have these factors present, that your cats are going to have aggressive scratching behavior. It's just like, if they do, there's a good chance that some or one of these things are at play. And it was more of an exploration of what causes scratching this aggressive. Scratching behavior is normal for a cat. So that's normal.

But we're talking about like aggressive scratching behavior like that they're really going, like where you have the corners of your chairs and counters. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yes. And before we even get too far into the wives, or maybe you've already planned on answering this, do we know if it's, if they do it generally for protection for like sharpening their claws because they feel threatened? Because I know you're about to talk, you know, like you said, children in the home are a cause of that. Are they, are they, do they see the kids as a threat that they need to defend themselves from? no actually so scratching behavior is typically a stress reliever for cats oh really okay yeah and so that's why cats do it anyway everybody needs to relieve stress sometimes but if a cat one of the things that they've know they that they know is that when cats are aggressively scratching furniture and stuff around the house it's it's almost certainly because there's something going on in that cat's life mental health

that is causing them a lot of stress. And so that's where you want to start when you're thinking about it. So children in the home, the reason children in your home are stressful for a cat is, they do make a point to say that it's not fully understood, but there are some things that these experts think they, they're leading hypotheses for why simply having children present in your home would cause stress for a cat. First, well, let's say that having children in your home causes stress for humans as well.

Sure, sure. That's what I do. When I had little kids, I was scratching everything up. That's what I did. Yeah, exactly. I'm still dealing with that. Clipping his nails and let you. Sure, sure.

So small children have really unpredictable behavior and movements and loud noises, and cats don't like unpredictability in general. Cats like are very, as a cat owner, I'm sure. you can relate to this Brian cats like routine and so and they like things to be predictable they like they have their places that they like to be

at certain times of the day and they have things that they like to do and they like routine and children in the house make that hard they throw everything into chaos right children can handle cats really roughly

like young children and that can be stressful for cats they can invade their cats. Cats are also very territorial. Not like aggressively territorial, at least house cats aren't, but it's still baked into their like evolution, right? That they like their space. They have safe spaces.

They have what the researchers in this paper called core territories. And so children can invade a cat's core territories. And that can cause a lot of stress for the cats. So they say that one thing you can do if you have children, and you have cats with aggressive scratching behavior, is really focused on teaching your kids to respect the cats, like have certain spaces that the cats have that that's their place. And kids know, don't invade that,

especially when the cat's there, leave them alone, you know? Yeah, yeah. If the cat's over here on the perch, you don't touch the cat. Exactly. That's a safe space. Is any of this tied to other pets, like, you got a dog too? and the cat just freaking loses it because we have a cat and then three dogs

and it does stress the cat out but he also doesn't scratch anything so I don't know what his deal is yeah well sometimes so one of the things that they talked about with cats is that it seems that the cats cats seem to have

maybe not a predisposition toward aggressive scratching behavior but there are definitely some cats that seem to have personalities or predispositions toward being way more chill right um and so that could be what it is is that some cats just they don't get stressed out as much just like humans some people don't you know there are some people who have anxiety disorders and some people who don't um so uh that could be something that also that is a factor likely at play

um for cats um another thing this is something that i thought was really interesting was play behavior with cats. They found that both high levels and low levels of play for a cat can cause them to be really, can get them stressed out. Oh, too much play. Interesting. Yeah. And I hear it's like if you're playing with something that

they can't get, like laser pointers, that causes stress in cats because it's they don't get closure, right? It's like if you pull a string, they can catch the string they can pull, you know, and they get closure on that. You play with a laser pointer and you just stress out your cat because you're giving

and something they will never get. Exactly. That's what I thought was really interesting. I didn't know that about cats. Cats, so cats play behavior originates from hunting behavior, right? And again, if you're a cat owner, that's really obvious. Because, you know, you might have, like,

the feather on a stick thing or whatever, and whenever you wiggle it around, the cat will hide up behind a piece of furniture and peek its head out and, like, pounce, right? Like, just like a hunting, just like hunting behavior. Yeah. But, like you said, with a laser pointer, they'll chase it around and everything. But if they don't get that sort of satisfaction of a successful hunt, then it can be incredibly stressful for a cat. In their mind now, there's a little red dot that is still somewhere in this house that has somehow managed to get behind the electrical plate or under the closet door or something.

Right. So you need to engage in play with your cats that result. Let the wookie win, you know? Right, yeah, yeah. You got to let them successfully catch something, at least some of the time, you know, so that they can feel. I like how you put it, that closure, like, okay, this activity is done. I've successfully completed the hunt. I will now grab the mouse with both the front paws and kick with my back legs.

and shred this thing. It's funny, though, because we domesticate the hell out of these things, right? And we forget that they're always going to have these primal bits. And some of them are confused. Like, I see my dogs do things sometimes and I'm like, you're not a wolf, all right?

Calm down. Yeah, right. And in every other way, she shows no... The hackles on the back of their... Yeah, they do stuff that's just built into them. And cats are not going to be any different. We're no different. We do it, too.

You know? Whatever your nature is. Yeah, exactly. It's important to remember that that the behavior, when we talk about stress, we like to personify our pets and think about every, like, how else would we think about all these sort of behaviors that our pets have and think about it through the lens of our human experience, right? Right.

But like you said, these are all evolved behaviors from when, before they were domesticated. And so stress for an animal means something else. Stress is a very primal, primal sort of ancient psychological, almost physiological response to, that's about survival. And so stress in an animal, and honestly, really stress in humans as well, comes from a place of trying to make you survive. And so it will come in the presence of things that the animal is perceived. at least somewhere deep down in this evolutionary history that they have is perceived as something that's not right with the environment that's going to lead to them having a difficult time surviving. So hunting play is a perfect example of that. They need to, if they're not successfully hunting something, it's going to cause them stress, which will then motivate them to engage in behavior that will hopefully lead them to have successful hunting activity.

Or it just is a physiological response that's hopefully going to keep them alive longer, or who knows, who knows. But the point is, that's how we have to think about it, right, that these are, that their stress is different than ours. They're not thinking about things in the same way that we do. So you have to think, why is a cat stress? Why is a dog stressed? And the reasons that your cat and your dog are stressed are probably different. you know so and then they're both different from us so yeah i know i know it stresses her cat out when one of the dogs eats that cat's food that's pretty stressful sure yeah or when that cat takes

a dump on the floor and then i yell at it for an hour that would stress it out not dump she barfs she'll barf but not or he'll barf he never it's funny that you that you bring that up scott because they mentioned in this paper um things toward the end of it things that you can do like what they're learning from this and things that you can do to help your cat. I've mentioned some of them already, but one of them was not to use what psychologists call positive punishment, which is introducing some stimuli in order to correct a behavior, or to reduce a behavior. So, so yelling at an animal would be positive punishment. Yelling at an animal whenever they do something you don't want them doing. But also, you know, like, like, like, like, like, spraying a cat with a water bottle whenever they're scratching the the couch. That's not good. That's just going to make them more stressed. Right. And make them want to scratch more because of

to de-stress. Right, because again, yeah, exactly. If we think back why they're doing the scratching to begin with, if it's because of stress, then it's counterproductive. They said that putting scratching posts in front of the place where they're scratching that you don't want them to is a really great way to do it. It's less letting them engage in that stress relieving behavior, but they're not doing it to the thing that you don't want them to do it to. Yeah. Yeah. We get those boxes. They're like little flat cardboard boxes with kind of corrugated, basically the side of cardboard laid next to each other. So basically the inside of the box looks like the side of cardboard, a bunch of it. And they kind of occasionally care about it. But if you put catnip on that thing, my God, they go to town and scratch the hell out of it.

Like it mellows them out with a cat nip, and then they're, yeah, and then they're de-stressing from the scratching thing. So that's the way to get them to use it if they're not using it. Yeah. And then the last few things that they mentioned were providing safe hiding spots for your cat, especially elevated ones. Those cat perches and houses that sit on top of those towers are really great. Cats love those.

And again, if you have a cat, then you have one of those, you know they like to spend a lot of time in there. and also play with your cat every day and at regular routine like regular times every day is even better maybe not necessary but but you know they like routine so if they know to schedule yeah

cats are different than then well I mean dogs like routine too but I think I feel like dogs are way more take it as it come adaptable exactly it's like oh we're not going to one for a walk right now oh but we'll probably go in a couple minutes okay cool all right

right depends on the breed i suppose but there are some you know it always blows my minds the little yippie ones that are about the size of your fist that they think they're going to destroy the world they're just so yeah napoleon complex yeah and then you got freaking some chihuahua giant great dane who wouldn't it couldn't be sweeter you know like yeah it's so funny to me how that works out it's just a defensive thing the great dane doesn't get angry because it doesn't have to. But the chihuahua always feels like it's in danger of, I don't know, a leaf falling off of a tree and landing on it.

Yeah. I remember when I was researching breeds of dogs because we wanted to get a dog for Zoe. My daughter, when she was only like two, two and a half. And that's what everything we read said was if you've got little kids, the bigger the dog, like if that's what you're worried about, the bigger the dog, the better. Yeah. Because the bigger it is, the calmer it tends to be. It seems to be so counterintuitive, but it's true.

And like even when we, and when Izzy was a sort of part of the extended family, she had great big, what do they call it? Everyone's afraid of them. Oh, pit bull terriers. Pit bull terrier. Sweetest, sweetest animal, especially with babies. I wish would, if we would kept their regular name or used their regular name Staffordshire Terriers, I think people would be less, less prone to be afraid of them. Yeah. Yeah.

And that dog, when fireworks would go off, that dog would lose it. Get into a corner, shake like a leaf. So, like, the big dogs are just the big softies. We just, it's all in our heads. Well, Bobby, this is great. I think when you go up to the mountain, you should feel good about yourself, okay? About what you've done. Thanks.

You've shared information. We've learned something. And please tell people where they can learn more with you and Moira on your little cool show you do. Well, I've got a little cool show. called All Around Science and it's a weekly science podcast we talk about science stuff going on in the news or just

whatever we might be interested in at the time coming up soon we're gonna have because we're going to both me and my co-host happen to be going on vacation at the same time we're having some back-to-back listener questions episodes that we already recorded where we're just mailbag type episodes you know but the one that came out

just yesterday was about taste buds our very own biocal here sent us a question actually that inspired me to do a whole a whole feature on taste buds but um he was talking about what what happens i guess his wife was was thinking about snipping off of swollen taste bud and said should should she do that i never had one i don't think a swollen taste bud i don't think that's ever happened to me is that a thing is that a common thing or uh it happens have you ever had like you might have had one and not known it have you ever had like a swollen spot on the side of your tongue yeah yeah yeah um he's like a canker

or something like i accidentally bit it or something yeah right it could be it could be that was why it's swollen in the first place um sometimes they're prone to get the one the the the well the first thing you'll you'll you should i'll give you a teaser to the episode is that those aren't actually taste buds those are what are called papilla taste buds you can't see i don't like the name papilla at all papilla papilla at all papilla all those p words i don't like them i don't like them I'll say this, though, somebody told me once that taste, so they had cow tongue, right? Cows have taste buds. They're a little different than ours.

Yeah. He scraped, this is gross, he scraped the taste buds off of the cooked cow tongue to see if the taste buds would taste buds different because they're taste buds. Does that make, he was kind of high, I think, at the time. But also, who did this? This is a friend of mine in Arizona. I will not, I will not name name. If I name names, I'll be in trouble. But he thought that was a...

Don't get that guy. Don't ask that guy where baby oil comes from. No. He'll really, he'll go down a path. We don't want him on that path. Well, Bobby, I hope your trip is a fun one, a safe one. The kids have a good time. Stephanie has a good time putting all that luggage in the car.

And we can't wait to hear back from you next time right here on your segment on TMS. See you next week. Bye now. Why won't he close? Hold on a second. something's weird let me go on vacation something's jacked oh okay there you I mean you could you as you say you could hang up Bobby but by the way let me let me say something before we get a bunch of emails I guess

you know it's something that I always thought was right but Staffordshire bull terriers are similar same anxious ancestry as the American pit bull terrier but way different in size by margins of like six to eight inches bigger or smaller 25 to 35 pounds American pit bull terriers are way bigger than the English Staffordshire, Bull Terrier. But similar features and, you know, all that, they kind of look at the same. Similar features, they tried to remarket the pit bulls several years ago and just changed their names to the American Bull Terrier, but that didn't seem to help things. Well, to give you an example, I love this photo.

This is when Van was born. Yeah. And look at this picture. They are the sweetest dogs. This is the cutest shot here. I put it in Discord. Whoops, there we go. She was she just for sure.

Thank you. She loved that baby. Oh. She protected him. If anything, she would only get aggressive if anyone looked like they were aggressive toward the baby. So she was just the biggest sweetie. She's still going great though. She lives in a, they had to put her in a, literally to a farm upstate.

But it was an actual place that has pit bulls running around everywhere. It always sounds like such a, such a fake like, well, let's just tell them they went to a. farm upstate she's a happy dog um okay Brian we're we're done here's the thing today there's one more show people want to tune in for uh today live at 4 p.m. we'll be doing the monday show me and carter will be on there got a bunch of stuff to talk about there hopefully your sunburn you need those scorpions yep scorpion day um yeah right here so rock you like a hurricane from what i hear yeah the guitarist will have two necks on his guitar uh let's see yeah so they're here still I felt like I almost decided to fake a crustacean allergy,

so I wouldn't have to eat these, but I'm going to, I'm going to do it. Nice. Mike Picholich didn't send them for nothing, I suppose. Are they crustaceans or rachians? I don't know why I always thought that they were reckons. They say crustacean on here, but again, I'm only going off this package. It says, Crestation allergy warning.

If you have a crustacean allergy warning, do not eat this. It's basically it. So I don't know. Are scorpions? they're like so that puts them in like the cradad kind of family I guess or whatever right because those are Wikipedia scorpions are predatory arachnids of the

order scorpionis weird or allergy advice crustaceans but they do have a shell so if you're allergic to things like crab and stuff that does have a shell you're probably allergic like what do they call that not seafood allergy

but a shelled animal exoskeleton and now there's like some term for the allergy that comes with the food that has carapuses. Yeah, it's weird.

Shellfish, shellfish allergy. Thank you. Jeez Louise. Isn't there a fish something shell? You know what's worse about this? What's worse about it is it would even be better if you just said insect, but knowing that they're arachnid adjacent

or even in the fan. It's even worse. I do not want to eat this today. I know exactly. Would you rather eat, uh, oh, yeah. I guess I can force myself eat something that's cried out like, nope, it's like a spider, Scott. Yeah. It's like a spider with armor.

Chat's right. It's like eating a zerg. It's true. Yeah, it really is. Don't eat zerg. Don't eat. You could have a zerg rush in your mouth. Yeah, man.

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Brian, let's do a song to get us out. What do you got? Yeah, Derek wrote in, said, hey, Brian and Salt. I'm going to be meeting up with my online D&D buddies for the first time for the week of July 7th through the 13th to hopefully wrap up our five plus year campaign. I'm going to be flying down from Edmonton, Alberta, to visit them at a beach house in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Sounds awesome. I'm likely going to melt from the heat and humidity,

but I'm super excited to meet these people who I've become good friends with. Could you play something Alabama or a D&D related for me? I'm nervous and anxious, but can't wait to see them. Thanks for all the great stuff you both give to us all on a daily basis. Could you please play a random seven second sound clip Scott seven seconds cooma the Goliath rogue good gosh all right uh seven that's fine one here uh seven seconds uh this one's close no that's point point seven i need seven your search thing doesn't

doesn't sort anymore by or it sorts you can sort by length but it doesn't like let you say just give me the ones that are between six and eight seconds no it's only going to give me file sizes so So it doesn't, let's see. Do the one that's close that you found. All right. Let's do, well, that's too long. Man, none of these are, okay, hold on.

We're going to do this. We're going to make it work. All right. How about this one? Gentlemen of the council, we will meet immediately at Chochum's chair in Thunder Forest. What's wrong now? There you go. That was exactly seven seconds, by the way.

Perfect. Perfect. All right. There you go, Derek. Hope you enjoyed that. Listen, songs about Alabama. there's a there's a very famous one i'm just not going to go to because we've all heard it and we've heard about your sweet home there and and we don't need to hear any more of your your retort

against neil young's uh southern man but and one that's lesser known but should be more well known in my opinion because i think it's a far superior song was written by john prine back in the early 70s and its song called angel from montgomery it's been covered by everybody including Bonnie Raid The version that we're going to hear right now Is by the Old Crow Medicine show They included on a tribute to John Prine Back in 2010

This is such a great song If you saw the TV show Ozark This is the song that closes out I think that closes out the whole The whole series Or at least is in that final episode Here is Angel from Montgomery Performed by the Old Crow Medicine show

I am an old woman named after my mother My old man is another Child that's grown old If dreams were lightning Thunder was desire This old house would have burned down a long time ago To make me an angel Who flies from Montgomery

Make me a poster of an old rodeo Just give me one thing That I can hold on to to believe in this living is just a hard way to go When I was a young girl I had me a cowboy He weren't much to look at

Just a free rambling man But that was a long time No matter how I tried The years just flow by Like a broken down dam Make me an angel Who flies from Montgomery Make me a poster

Of an old rodeo Just give me one thing That I can hold on to To believe in this living is just a hard way to go. Now there's flies in the kitchen Like in here I'm buzzing I ain't done nothing since I woke up today

Tell me How the hell can a person Go to work in the morning Come home in the evening And have nothing to say Make me an angel angel who flies from Montgomery make me a poster of an old rodeo. Just give me one thing that I can hold on to to believe in this living is just a hard way to go.

Make me an angel who flies from Montgomery, make me an angel who flies from Montgomery. of an old rodeo. Just give me one thing that I can hold on to To believe in this living is just a hard way to go. To believe in this living is just a hard way to go. Hey, this is for the morning stream. It's Michael from Edmonton again. Yeah, hey, Scott, Brian, and Dan, Dan, the table thought, man.

Yeah, okay, I'm just a follow-up for my last one where I said, you know, how many Canadians are on the team. I do know that both you guys were kind of rude for Edmonton. Brian, you were betting on them. And Scott, you really seem like you want to care about hockey. No, I'm just kidding. But one day we're going to kick Utah. But, yeah, here's guys.

Hey, Scott and Brian. This is Sean from, there aren't any Transylvanians in Sylvania, Ohio. No vampires here. This is about the whole space between the windows thing. I heard the answer back that it's a French word, but I studied Latin in high school, you know, like so many do. And the word finestra has a Latin root, and it means window in Latin. That's more closely the fenestration word.

Love the show, though. Bye. Hey there, scorecard and bingo ball. Turkey, Jesse, here calling about TMS-2659, feeling a little attack. You guys called me out, being the only one that was concerned about giving the tally updates on the scorecards. For your Tad Pooley feud game, listen, I just want to call. clarify that when I did call in originally, my concern was, Brian sometimes would not say what number on the list it was, one through ten. I don't really care what the number is because

you'll tell us at the end who wins. I don't have OCD like that. However, when he is saying it, and you make a guess, and he doesn't say what number it is on that list, just gives you the ding and says, great, and then you guys start talking about it. Then we're sitting here thinking, well, what the hell? How much does that work? That's all it was. Love the show, though. Have a great day. Hey, this is for the morning stream. Hey, Scott and Brian. It's Michael from Eminton,

of Fremont, here, up here. And just a little touch base with your Dan, Dan, the tabletop man. Yeah, I understand. Florida wins the Stanley Cup. And you're all like, Woohoo, go America. Yeah, how many Canadian players are actually on that team? What?

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