The Morning Stream - TMS 2677: Pez Zero

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

No faking Mr. Pancake. McAddict. Inside Stephanie's pet. Being Gentle with Brian's Thing. The Morning Unboxing. Rough time in shipping. Fiddle Farting with Dunaway. The Boxtroll Agenda. Sweet Coraline. Aged Like a Fine Abnormal Wine. her head's off.. heads not supported to be off. Wasn't here a Matrix movie called Matrix something. A Hose Pops Out. No ads with Tom. People You Don't See with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sometimes the clouds come out and threaten to dump rain on us all. Thankfully, we are all under the same umbrella having a great time together at patreon.com slash TMS. Sign up today and come and be dry with us. I'm really pushing the metaphor. Coming up on the morning stream, no faking Mr. Pancake. McAddict. Inside Stephanie's pet. Being gentle with my thing.

The morning unboxing. Rough time in shipping. Fiddle farting with Dunaway. The box troll agenda. Sweet Coraline. Bap, ba, ba. Aged like a fine, abnormal wine. Her heads off.

Heads are not supposed to be off. Wasn't there a Matrix movie called Matrix something? A hose pops out. No ads with Tom. People you don't see with Randy and Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Did you know if you made a baloney sandwich and handed it to me, I would eat the baloney sandwich? What? M.S. D.

The morning stream. Win, there. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for July 17th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. Hello. Hey, Scott. You know, I'll just get out of the way. Happy birthday. Oh, thanks, man. You know, a day older, a year, young, what, wait, what's the phrase? I don't know what it is.

Neither take years nor leave years is what you did. Yeah, it's been very nice so far. I think Kim may be sneaking down here in a minute to hand me gifts from people that I don't know about. This is all surprised to me. Apparently, people sent some things, and I didn't know about it. Apparently, there's still stuff sitting over at the P.O. box and we haven't picked them up yet. So there's stuff afoot. I don't know.

I don't like this kind of thing. So the sooner the better. Unboxing stream. Yay! Brand new YouTube channel launching today. Check it out. Anyway, oh, I do have some, I have an exciting thing to talk about real quick here. Oh, good.

Okay. Tell me. And it's nothing to do with my birthday, but it is something to do with my new store. And I'm excited about this because this marks the opening of the new phase. And while it may seem small to some, this is where we start. This is ground zero. Ground Zero is if I can pull it up here If you go to frogpants.shop

Or you can still go to frogpance.com, but not shop will just take you directly there. You will find that there is a new product up And the new product is called the Wasteland Collection. And in this collection, either 5 by 5 inch prints or 8 by 8, either one are available. For as low as 1299, free shipping. Free shipping.

No shipping. cost. Wow. Wow. You can get the wasteland collection. If you're like, what is that? Well, it includes three illustrations that I did. One of the vault boy with his arm cut off doing the thumbs up. I made that one up. It's not part of their like perk system. That's just, I was trying to do one that they hadn't done. So that's what I did. Yeah. That's, I was wrecking my brain trying to figure out. Now, is that from the TV show? I can't remember pit boy getting his arm cut off. Never got his arm cut off. But then he did. Anyway, so we got the new Coca-Cola construction I call it, which is like, like a bunch of little dudes making a giant

new Coca-Cola bottle thing. The terminal that you have to hack in the game, that's the third print. You can get these five-by-five or eight-by-eight. These will ship anywhere in the world. If you're in the U.S., 100% zero shipping. No cost of shipping. And they're available now,

and they will be limited quantities of said things. So if you want them, you want to go grab them because they're not going to last long. I think we're going to do 100, start and then we'll see how it goes the super limit edition nice yeah's great so those are shipping they'll ship pretty quickly once we get the orders but anyway if you are interested frogpants shop or frogpans dot com either one will get you there and i would love it if some of you grab those oh gosh kim just showed up hold on what do we have here oh looky here okay who's this

should who this is from tanner oh okay so tanner aka straven AKA my dungeon master Yeah your DM A.k A guy with a finger on a A nuke code switch thing in Arizona That's right I don't know if I'm supposed to talk about where he works

But whatever Well too late he's in sector He's one of the animals in sector G You want to take this Oh it's good having a wife around to take my trash away Thanks babe All right here we go You can take my crap

Here take more crap Take no crap Leave no crap. Oh, wow. It's like multi-layer. Like you're opening a... This is something, man. Oh.

What? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Have you seen this? You know about this? How did he get this? All right. Sorry, leaving everyone in suspense here.

He did... Signed Mad Max Fury Road poster by Nux, Furiosa, and Mug's. Max himself. Those are all their actual signatures. Where did he get these? I might just pee a little. Are you kidding? And it's all laminated, so none of this is going to smear off. Where did he go to get this? Probably Comic Con and Phoenix or something.

There was only one. This is the only one of these that exists. Now I might poo myself. Pee and poo yourself. This is amazing, dude. Straven, a.k.a. Tanner. Good Lord, dude. I feel guilty. There's no way this was cheap and easy. Well, my thing shows up just tossing. Brian gets here today, and now he's worried it's going to be a less impact. Did it get here? It's not here, did it? Oh, it did? Oh, Brian's got here.

Oh, mine is here? Where is it? I'll open it here. Is this it? Oh, okay. This is from Carrie? Oh, geez. Cleo sent, let's see, happy birthday. It's time to integrate van and Phoebe into the lemon cult have a great day carrie steve sarah and colin she sent me brand new bot thing of your lemon pez oh wow which i i can no longer consume at the levels i used to i can snack here and there yeah put that there for now there's sugar-free lemon pez yeah is there such a thing there isn't is there probably not it's a lemon pez zero is that a thing we can get into it's zero yeah there you go pes one sugar these are very nice and these will go to good combs because the kids

have pez dispensers that they adore and love and i got to get van like an optimist prime pez dispenser we'll stick those in there that's so nice of her okay who's this this is brent oh my gosh i didn't know we were going to do this all right uh oh shit what have you seen this too oh my gosh how did you keep all this a secret sorry you guys this is very self-serving uh all right i was joking about an unboxing stream but this is uh That's exactly what happened here. Okay, this one's from Brent, and there's also a, like, a little heavy metal anchor on the back of this. It's a big, long thing to read.

Should I read it? Okay. My band opened for heavy metal anchor in the 80s, yeah? Well, that was a hard gig to get. I'm thinking you guys should be proud. It says, Dear Scott, I know your great love for all things, Furiosa, and Mad Max, and we were exchanging some texts about a half a year ago, and you mentioned interest in the included prop I was making over the past few months as a side project. I'm about as far into it as I can get.

It is no punish props work of art, but it is indeed fun to make. Put it on a shelf or give it away. Dude, it ain't giving this away. Want to say how much I appreciate you and your companions? That includes Brian. Across the Frog Pants world. I discovered your work years ago

with the instance, quickly expanded my horizons, the rest of your shows, including TMS and Film Sack and the others. I cannot wait, or cannot say how important your humor and camaraderie with your colleagues are on the show to me. You just got me through the pandemic. My father's declined in recent passing due to pancreatic cancer. Oh, I hate that. And many, many dog walks up with my two huskies. Wish you the best, uh, you to you and your family and the content creators at frogpants.

All the best. Brent. Well, Brent, that's so nice. Okay. So I, I guess I should open this. Yeah. I'm scared. We'll leave us all in suspense. I don't want to break anything, Brian. I don't want to like, can you do that? Oh, I see a hose coming out of there. I know. I see. I think we got a Martin Joe vibe happening. I don't know who else was that. Um, Rick just had like a little oxygen nose thing. So that ain't it. Oh.

Okay. It's a... Oh, what? And this is great stuff for the audio listeners. Oh, I should be doing my part into kind of describing this. So Scott is now opening the box. Yeah, with the help of Kim, we have a box being opened. Box being opened.

Oh, look at that. Oh, my gosh. Can I wear that? Oh, wow. Look at that. Holy cow. Are you kidding? Give it away.

Are you kidding? just give it away this is uh for those listening uh not watching this is a an Morton Joe mask with uh a very uh dark very cool black version of it with um hoses coming out of the side and looks like an entire CPAP setup I am putting this is getting hung on the wall I love this so much dude oh my gosh it's bolted in there that's very yeah Halloween I'll wear it for Halloween this is so good treats to the kids

with that. Maybe these are, these might be CPAP attachments. I don't actually know. Yeah, it looks good on you, babe. Oh, it looks great on Kim. Kim is trying on the mask. Nicely done. That's very good. Yeah, you should get one of those weird staffs and sing in the desert until you find out

they're all coming back the other way. Awesome. All right, and then this is Brian? Oh, Brian's just arrived. That's awesome. This just in. Kim's awesome like opening the box. She is. She's making, you know, she's a good van of white when you need one. That's right. No card, by the way.

Let's save some time. You and I are not card guys. I get it. I feel you. Okay, we're going to be gentle here. What? Oh, shit. Look, it's Johnny.

I hope pieces stayed intact. Well, her head's off. Is that normal? Oh, no. Her head's not supposed to be off. That can be re-glued. That can be re-glued. Yeah, no problem.

problem. Oh, I'm getting paint on me. Some of this isn't quite dry. Oh, shit. Really? Look at this. Chani, but here's Chani's head. I'm going to fix that right away. Oh, her hand is gone. Oh, this is such a bummer. Oh, does her hand pop? Don't throw this box away because we got find her hand. Don't worry. I got glue for this. I got Bill's recommendation for good glue. And then for some reason, whatever's in her hair is coming off, that might just be from the heat. Oh, no, really? Yeah, like a little whatever that is. Oh, that might be... It's totally fine because it's the desert. It's, uh, the spice must flow. I love that. Make sure her head's not cracked.

Actually, yeah, white, that might be, uh, resin. I wonder for her head. Yeah, make sure her head's not cracked or something. The box is in good shape, so I don't know, I don't know how they handle this thing, but... Hmm. I don't know no crack doesn't. I know, right? That may as well be Zendaya, all mad at me for having to marry, uh, black widow's sister.

Yeah. Yeah, since I can't rely on you to paint any of the models that I've given you in the past, I decided I would paint this one. Well, the Furiosa one looks cooler, not painted, but you're right about, like, Batman, he still needs to be painted. Ooh, this base is great. Yeah, that's airbrushed. It did some airbrush work to make it look like the sand was going up the rock. That's great, because that's the vibe of that whole planet, is these jutting rocks are, like, so cool contrasted to the rest of it.

There's a little bit of paint coming off that, too. I think it's just the heat. Yeah. Really? Okay. It'll be okay down here. It cools off real fast. Or maybe I send you models that sweat that actually sweat.

Sweaty models. These look awesome, dude. Thank you. No problem. Cannot wait to put that together. Love it. Yeah. See, I gave you a puzzle is what I did.

Yeah. Yeah. Why not? I love it because this is my favorite things I have right now are related to either Dune or Fury Road. And everybody seems to know that. And that's all I, that's all I could ask for. on my birthday. It kind of makes it easy to get you stuff. It's like, all right, what do you

have? He's registered at Warner Brothers, basically. Yeah, good point. Yeah, Warner Brothers, it's also Dune, right? I think so. I think so. I can't remember. They have the two best IPs in the history of the internet, or the movie world. That's fantastic.

What is it? Oh, her hand. Kim found her hand. Oh, good, good, good, good. It's Tiani's hand. Okay. And her knife is intact, I hope. Well, I figured. that stuff can be uh all that stuff can be glued there it is knife's good there it is good good okay so uh she uh you know she did some real weird stuff on euphoria but i think this hand is probably clean now sounds fine that's awesome dude thank you so much i guess i need to work

on my packaging skills apparently no my guess is i blame usPS for everything they they those guys tossed stuff around who knows i bet if i looked at the camera they probably hurled it up up the steps. Oh, look at that. That looks so good. Well, that's going right next to Furiosa. Is that the same artist? Three artists is the Furiosa in a mall?

No, different artists, but same size. Printed the same one-sixth scale so that they can be a little shelf buddies. I can't find where I put her. I put her somewhere safe, thankfully. Oh, she's over. Yeah, there she is. You hand me to her. Just so the chat can see this.

Hand me to her. So this is the Fury. Curiosa one that Brian did. This has been, what was this, Christmas you did, I think? I think it was Christmas, or maybe birthday last year. Look at this 3D printing job, you guys. Yeah, and that's what the Zenithal painting, and then just the, and then I did, of course, handpaint the, the, her metallic arm. I am going to do, I think I'm going to do the forehead thing.

There's like the dark. I'm scared, though, to do it. That's partly why these, that's why I haven't painted the others. I'm terrified. Here's the thing. Paint can be covered up with more paint. So if it doesn't come out the way you want, put more paint on it. That's a good point.

More paint. More problems. Yeah. That's right. Well, awesome. Thank you for that and everybody else. And I know there's like two or three things over the PO box. I apologize.

It haven't here yet, but they just arrived. So whoever sent those, I'll make sure you get thanks in the next day or so. But it's very nice. Thank you very much, everybody. I don't feel nearly as old when I get cool things, especially stuff I nerd out about. There you go. Brian, I don't know if you knew this.

Well, you know what? I'm going to skip this and use this later. I'm going to talk about Greg from Texas who has advice for us. Yeah, let's, yeah, maybe we'll do that in the after like a post recommendals. Yeah, I can save that. Greg from Texas wrote, you need to wait. Oh, let's see, this is some advice. He says, you need to wait until Black Friday or for Hulu deals.

I got a 99 cent per month for 12 months and Disney Plus add-on for two bucks. for the same amount of time. So at first I thought, when I first got this, I went, oh, this is like, you could probably get a prime deal, but Prime's got nothing to do with Hulu or Disney. So then I did a little more digging. And it's true, right? Black Friday every year, they have, sometimes.

I don't think it's always, but they have these deals. And if I had known that, I would have done that last year. That's an insane deal, though. 99 cents a month for 12 months. Yeah, crazy, right? So you're paying for an entire year of Hulu. Maybe I guess it's probably Hulu plus ads or something, but they might have, they might have deals on the, I mean, every, every level that they offer might have a really good deal like that. Yeah, that's really something.

I, we also got a note from, let's see who this is from. This is from Craig in the UK. This is for you, Brian's question follow up. He says, hi again, sausage and bacon. I guess I'm sausage and your bacon. I guess so. I asked Brian if you had any can't, if you ever. had any canceled fares and what recourse he had and what happened. We're talking about your

lift stuff. Yeah. And I had the sudden realization while he was talking about it that maybe just maybe the internet had lied to me again. These videos are probably faked content. Gosh darn it. My one defense is I've never used, sorry, I've never used these kinds of services before. So I'm naive to the details of it all. But rest assured, I am now more educated and feel ready to brave the world of social media once again, says Craig. P.S. Love the though uh i mean i can't tell like i saw a video today of police tackling a dude at a mall yeah and it was brutal but also my i've gotten to the point where my critical brain goes wait a minute let's watch that again that's and i think it's fake you that's unfortunately where i

start now like anything i see it's kind of like the um it's kind of like the old uh uh what was america's funniest home videos where basically the first thing is like the first few times you watch the show, it's like, oh my gosh, that guy just got hitting the nuts. Ah, it's great. Oh my God, the kid went down the sled and then the sled stopped and the kid slid down some poop. Ha ha ha. And then there's all this other

guy's like exercising and he dropped the weights on his toe, huh? But then you start looking like, wait a minute, all right, so, and those aren't good examples of this, but you start wondering like, all right, this has to be stage. Why would they be filming the thing that they were filming to get that moment? It probably happened to them, but they weren't

filming and they said oh let me recreate this or they said oh wouldn't it be funny if blah blah blah and so they recreate it there um so now because of all that it's like as soon as i see a video the first thing is like you know all right how they fake it how does it you know how is it BS yeah and if i can't figure out a way it's BS then i start to believe that it's true yeah and then you get and then you know find alternate sources maybe that does it so it's like you're absolutely right the first litmus test should be how how good of a shot is it it and why did it get filmed exactly when it needed to be filmed for a thing that's supposed to be random and chaotic and unless they were like a hundred yards away at a game stop

filming something else and caught it out of the corner of the eye and then maybe rushed to it I mean those things I believe more I don't know why when you're faking your videos you don't think of that one because that's so obvious right right yeah because you could fake more randomness like start the video halfway through shake your camera on a little bit like it was like it was a spur of the moment thing where you had to hurry up and get your phone going. Exactly, right, and that would make it look a little bit more believable,

or it would increase the veracity of how it looks. But yeah, it's turned us, kind of that all that stuff has just kind of turned us all into skeptics now where we're not quite to the level of as soon as we see something we don't like, fake news, but we

are skeptics now in the way that we look at things, and AI is just going to push us. like we thought it was bad when we had to watch videos of you know what made that why were they filming when that bat flew in the window and scared the lady there was no reason for them to be filming when that bat flew in the window yeah i guess that's another bad example animals and kids you can't really stage as well as adults who know what they're doing yeah i get your i get your point though like if you're gonna if you're gonna tell me something's real i think it's So like anything, you don't want to swing too far in any one direction. I think it's a healthy place to be, to be skeptical immediately. But where I could get personally in trouble is if I get to that point where I'm just discounting everything simply because I've been fooled before. You know what I mean?

I know. I don't want to be there. I don't want to be the, you know, lose my entire childlike wonder when I see something that amazes me. Yeah. But I also don't want to just say, just want to take it for granted. of that it's real. Yeah. And like Mr.

Pancake, totally real. Totally not staged. That guy was totally in a onesie and he totally had gerbils in his pants. Yep. And he has a freaking, there are arrest records like public records and all this stuff. Exactly.

You can do your follow. So thank goodness for Mr. Pancake. Yeah. But everything beyond that is, uh, is, uh,

is it falls into question. Although I do, I appreciate that cop for embracing his opportunity. Yes. You know what I mean? For sure. Yeah. Because he could have just gone straight,

but he's like, you know what? I'm going to make, I'm going to say in the name of the law, Mr. Pancake. Right. And you're going to, and it doesn't make it fake. It just means that guy knows what he knows what horse he's riding. You know what I mean? Exactly.

Yeah, may as well. I wish more cops were more self-aware of their, what do you call it? Their body cams. Yeah, right. It just kind of played into it. Like I said, you know, this might end up on the internet. Let's have some fun. No one's in danger here.

We just found a guy in a leopard print one z on a park bench with gerbils in his pants. Yeah. Let's give the people what they want. Mr. Pancake. Yeah, Mr. Pancake, full of gerbils, just like you'd expect from a guy named Mr. Pink over, Mr. Pancake, you're done on that side. I ate too many blueberries. I'm going to barf.

Ah, blueberry pancake. Those sound good right now. It does, yes. I don't really eat pancakes anymore. Your days of stealing gerbils are up. Yeah, that's it. Sur up. Sur up.

Sir up. I tried. I tried. It didn't work so well. Sir get up. Sir up. We set up. Sir up.

Sir up. But better not do this again. I better not see you. Yeah, that's better. That's good. Yeah. I'm all out of pancake references. That's all I got.

Is there anymore? This is the waffly last time that we're going to have to do this, Mr. pancake. Brian brought waffles into it and now it's controversial because those people will get off. Oh, oh, I've crossed the streams. Well, anyway, thank you, Craig in the UK. We appreciate your follow-up and your acknowledgement that sometimes some of this stuff can, you know,

this is a good step in your progress. So good job. All right. We got to play a game because, boy, is the time ticking away. It is. So we're going to get Ted Pully. Quick note, just to pass along to Kim. Maybe while you're doing the show, have her take and just kind of wipe off any of that stuff.

In case it is resin, have her wipe any of that stuff off the model and then wash her hands. Because if it is resin, I'm thinking, you know, sometimes with the holes in those things, sometimes resin can leak out. Yeah, it might be on your hands too. It might be. Don't touch your eyes. What does resin do? Is it like a toxic thing if you're not careful?

It's not going to eat your skin away if that's what you're asking. Oh, good. Because that would be a weird gift to get for a birthday. Yeah. It just, you know, you might finally throw up if you were to put your fingers in your mouth, which I know there's no danger of that. No, there's none. I can promise you my fingers will not go on my mouth today.

Just in case that's resin, though. Yeah, no, it's a good idea. I will have her do such. Immediately touches his nose. If I know, well, yeah, but with this part of my hand. I'm kidding. Got no resin here. I know.

No res. You're safe there. Yeah. Just skin cells. All right. We're going to get Donaway in it. We're going to play a game. You guys need to call me too.

I'll take the fourth caller today. And you do it on Discord. You send me a private message saying you want in. And if you are the fourth person, you will be in. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for us to play a game. It's called Tad Pooley Feud. And we welcome our friend Brian Dunaway to play it with us once more. Hi, Brian.

Oh, hi. God and Brian. It's nice to see you. How are you, man? It's so good to see you. You know, it's a weird day. I got a notification on OneDrive that I was getting close to my storage limit. And I was like, oh, let me delete a couple of things.

And as always, this happens. There's always a lot of photos involved in looking back through photos over the years and going, oh, man, no, I'm sad. Yeah. Life is so fast. I don't like it. Life is so fast, man. I don't like it.

It's like, it's too fast. I don't either. But it's, it's, it's the hardest parts were not the parts that I thought because I was like, oh man, I'm going to look at,

you know, some pictures when I was younger doing, you know, like the podcasting stuff. And it ended up being the stuff like, you know, the little things like going to Disney worlds with the kids and stuff. And it's like,

oh, if I had known it was going to be the last time. Mm-hmm. I would have done it different. That's right. We're all, because in the moment, I remember in the moment,

I was like, I was hot and I was tired. I just wanted. Get home. Well, as my sister would say, live in the moment and, you know, don't have too many regrets. Just think of yourself as, you know, moving through stuff, whatever. I have no real regrets other than if somebody gave me a time machine, what I would want is let me... Let me be 10 or 11 again.

Like, let me just perpetually be 10 or 11 and then do those years over forever. I would love that. I was thinking about that on the way home to get on this call. was like, you know what? No, I hated those times. I hated who I was then. I didn't like that I didn't have any control. My parents weren't control of me. I was like, well, by high school? And I'm like, no, I hated that too. And I'm like, well, when was I really happy? I'm pretty happy right now. So I just deal with it, Brian. Yeah, deal with it. Just freaking deal with it. That is one of those great questions, though. Like, if you could, if basically when you died, you know, you were given the ability to live your life on repeat in, in any two or three year span. What age would you choose? I think I would do 10 through 12, just before puberty and junior high decided to rear its ugly head. Just before puberty. Right there.

Give me that, give me that chunk of time. I don't know what. I mean, the thing is, would you be knowledgeable that you would have sent back, Brian, or is this a thing? Oh, that's an interesting question. No, I don't think, I think that wouldn't work if you were. Yeah. I think it wouldn't work as well if you had the knowledge, because boy, could you screw things up. Plus, it'd be a living hell, wouldn't it?

I'm going to invent a smartphone. at the age of 11, I'm going to invest in Apple because I know some things about the future. It's going to be, bliss is going to, ignorance is going to be the bliss there, right? Because that way you don't fiddle fart with it. That's right. Well, let's see if we can fiddle fart a little bit with our friend Mac Attic, who is our fourth caller today. Hello, Mac Attic. How are you? Oh, hi.

Oh, hi. It's nice to have you here, man. I used to get all your magazines. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. How's your addiction going? Have you found, you know, support and all that? Or how's that going for you? Still try, man.

Still try. So it's not Mac Attic, like he's up in the attic. No. Like a Scottish attic? Yeah, it's more of a smack. I don't think Attic ends with a T. Yeah, it's Mac Addict. Maybe not where you live.

Yeah. 89, though. That's a good year. I liked 89. I assume that's just because you love Taylor Swift. It's nothing to do with your birth year or anything like that, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. total 50.

Excellent. Well, let's get to it here. Brian, Ibit, you've got the rules and the regulations, so why don't you tell us how this works? Let me flip through my guide here. Oh, here it is. Here it is. It's time to play the tadpulley feud.

I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers. They gave us. It's Scott and Brian's time to see how many of those answers they can guess. McCaddict. McAddick. Like that. Mechanic.

Mac addict. Your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either. Scott O'Brien. If your Mick team wins, you will get a Mick Prize package. That includes Heimrich and 762 Hard Life, both on Steam, neither which. Do I have any idea? I don't even know why that one called Hard Life has a 7-6-2 in front of it, but that might be part of the game. It might be a typo.

Normally, I've got at least cursory knowledge of the games, and I don't know either of these. Oh, indeed it is. It's a fan-made enhanced version of the original tactical. Sim 762 High Calder. Of course. I don't know what that is. Never heard of that either.

Oh, here it is. Let's see. No, they're both, you know what? They're both reviewed really well, so you can't go wrong. I think you're going to do, I think you're going to do great today.

You're going to have fun with these, yeah. Yeah. Heimer looks cool. Look at that art style. I know, right? Isn't that rad? It's not on Mac, though, unfortunately. Sorry, Mac Attic.

Sorry, Mac Addict. Hopefully you'll have to, you know. Access. to a Mick PC. Yeah, or a Mick Steam deck. Either one will get you there. That's right. All right.

Well, let's play this game. I'm very excited. What's our topic? Listen, he's a Mac addict. He can figure out how to run it in, what you might call it mode, boot camp. There's actually better options. What do you call it mode? They are new ones.

What are the new good ones? Yeah. Obviously, you're well versed in them. Spot, not spotlight. Anyway, yeah, there's one where you can actually just have a window that's PC instead of having to reboot your computer in it. Anyway, let's get to your question here. That's what we're here for.

Name, okay, here we go. We asked 514 tadpullers. Yes, hands on your buzzers. We asked 514 tadpullers to give their best answer to this. Name a stop motion animated movie. Oh my gosh. Chicken run. Show me chicken run.

Number two points. One answer will beat it. That's the number two. from the board. Brian, do you have an idea what number one might be? Some kind of nightmare sometime around Christmas time, maybe? Well, that's a good call. Nightmare for Christmas?

Show me the nightmare before Christmas? Ah, shit. Brian, the number one answer, which means you get Mac addict and you get control of the board. Ain't me and Mac Addick going to cut it up? What's up? Eight answers left on the board.

We asked the tadpool to name a stop motion animated movie, These remaining eight answers are the highest votes of what they said. I've got a couple of my head. How about you, Mac? The one that instantly came to mind for me was Wallace and Gromit. Oh, yeah. Oh, I love that.

What about the trousers? What about the cheese? Well, I think that's a great question. These are movies. I don't know what the chat would do. The chat might, or the tadpole may say something different, but that wrong trousers was a short film, never theatrical. I don't think they did the theatrical until they did the one. What if we just say Wallace and Gromit?

Yeah. That is not enough information for me. There you go. Oh, you bastard. They may have, I mean, wrong trousers is so classic. They're so good. Well, there's a whole bunch of them. There's the wear rabbit one.

Remember? Yeah, yeah. Curse of the wear rabbit. The sheep one. No, the sheep one was a short. Then they did a full movie for the sheep on his own. I'm kind of an artman nerd, but. Yeah.

Yeah. Sorry. Why am I helping? Hope you're writing all those down, by the way. I'm only trying to, you know, I'm just here to help Mac Addict. I don't care about Dunaway. If Mac, if we're afraid, I've got it, if we're not sure about that dish yet, I got, I got, I got a few more stop motions that I wouldn't mind saying. Do it.

Where do you think? Go for it. All right, let's do some of Coraline. Oh, that's a good one. All right. Show me Coraline. Yeah, I love to some Coraline. And I did combine the three answers of people who spelled it carolone.

Carillon. Carolone. is it it's a carolone Carolines I had Carolinas or Carolones or Carolones Carolone is where I can go get money if I don't have my paycheck yet right I can just Right right right right right

24 hour carolone that sounds right And win Megas is right Scott has already won the best prizes for my birthday today You're right These are all way cooler than anything I could win today So I want Mac Attic to win all right I really do Right right

Done away it's still your turn you and MacA I've got it. I've got a few more, Mac. What do you think? What do you think? We want to go back to the wall to drummet. I got nothing. You got nothing? Go for it. All right. All right. Then I'm going to go with our collection of we're really big in a stop motion around here. So we have nightmare for Christmas. We don't have chicken run oddly. But we do have Caroline. And usually if those aren't going to, those aren't using. Kim, that's right. A Coraline, Caroline, Caroline is the wrong mom. The other mother. If we're not watching those, then we usually fire up the corpse bride. What do you think about that one? And there's one more that we all can fire up, too. And it's also about cheese. Weird. Yeah. Is that the way you're saying?

Are you saying Corpse Bride is your answer? I think so. I think we should say the corpse bride. Let's see what Johnny Depp thinks about that. Do it. All right. Okay. Show me a corpse bride.

Oh, 10 answer on the board. Look at all those points. 14 total points for Brian. Two points for Scott. No strikes on the board. No strikes on the board. We're going to start following. apart here, though, because I got a couple more.

The one that I love that my watch partner doesn't watch with me always is the box trolls. I love box trolls. It's such a good one, but I don't know how many people like that. I love the box trolls. I'm a giant fan. That's another Latka. Latka? What's the name of the?

Lakey? Lake A? Lake A. Lank? Lackay. I don't know how to say it. Yeah, but they're, that's a underrated one of those. I love that movie. Yeah. I'm with you. What do you think, Mac Addick? Should we say? thing. Should we say the thing?

Did you forget the name? You didn't already forget the name. No, box strolled. Okay, box. No, no, I just wanted to listen. I wanted to listen to anything else. I didn't want to push my agenda, box trolls.

Yeah, sure. All right. All right. Show me box trolls. Oh, I knew it. Number 21 on the list. People said it, but not enough to, not enough to make the top ten.

I feel you did. The cheese, man. The cheese and that. No, I feel you. I'd like, freaking love that one. All right, now we're into the potential weird zone. Let's go with another Laika production. I like Kubo and the two strings a lot.

That's a good one. And those two strings. Uh-huh. All right. Show me Kubo and the two strings. Yeah. Number four answer on the board brings Scott up to six. Eight just eight points behind Bri and Mac Attic.

You don't think we got. like you don't think we got any weirdos who are like trying to bring back those uh Christmas you know heat miser things or anything like that right that would be great um well all right let's I think it's going to be more recent stuff so I'm going to go with um I just forgot the name uh the West Anderson oh well uh fantastic Mr Fox that's the one oh that one yeah I love that one okay I may do the other one too but we'll see we'll see how the show me that uh symmetrical movie, Fantastic Mr. Fox.

Yeah. Yeah, number six, answer on the board. Brings got up to 12. Just two points behind Mac Addick and Brian. Oh, my gosh. Oh, that's scary. Oh, my God. I mean, I still want him to win, but I'm not going to throw it away.

So let's go. You should give your best effort. I really, I hope people liked it enough that somewhere in 7, 8 or 9, we have Isle of Dogs. I Love Dogs. I Love Dogs. I Love Dogs. I love Dogs. It's a great movie.

all right show me i love dogs oh you guys are wrong but that was number 11 so you get another oh look at you oh wow is that good no points though the uh the number 11 uh the um yeah chundrum or uh theorem the number 11 theorem yeah yeah uh let's do uh family favorite the number 11 gambit i like that let's do a family favorite the number 11 gambit i like that let's do a family family favorite and go with oh shit James and the Giant Peach

that's the next one I have in my head I don't know I put the emphasis on Giant but whatever James and the Giant Peach Show me James and the Giant Peach Oh my gosh That number 17 Number 17 for James And Giant Peach

Y'all are insane Insane all right there's a good one that's a classic though but you know people kind of forget about that one it was really big

for a while and they just kind of forgot about it they should go back it's the old doll it's one of my no I love that one so good anyway yeah

all right I think you're right though I think we should revisit that Wallace and Gromit now I think we've kind of loosened up a little bit I think we should do the I think the curse

the wear rabbit was probably the biggest biggest one that people yeah Claire's been yelling it for a little bit so let's go ahead Well, if they're saying we got to do it, then we can tell her that she was wrong. I do love that movie.

So good. All right. They were window washers in that movie, by the way. That was their job in that movie, window washing. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know why I remember that detail, but I do. I've only seen two, and I don't think I saw that one, but I think I need to see it.

Oh, you would love it. So good. I'm sure I would. All right. Show me Wallace and Grum, but the Curse of the Weird Rabbit. Oh, number 12. Oh, gosh. Oh, man.

Right there at the edge. Under the board, beyond the board. Just barely under the board on. It's been water boarded. That's right. Well, ooh, this is complicated. Four answers on the board still. Then I'm going to, I think wrong trousers probably got put in here.

You're probably right. Let me do all the peeveeas I can do. Let's do the wrong trousers thing and just this will be a good test too to see if I'm smoking crack. Sure. testing that P-filter, show me Wallace and Grommet the wrong trousers. Oh, he said the words. Oh, it works.

I know, he said the words. It means it's on there. So not technically a movie. I guess short film's still a movie. Right. That counts. Short film, still a film. Yeah.

That counts. I mean, do you call them movies, though? You know what I mean? Right, right. I know. Because the question wasn't in the stop action or stop motion animated movie. Yeah. But the Tedpool's right to put it in there.

I like it. Okay, well... Oh, yeah. You say that now because you've got the points. While it goes like, dovers. I wonder if Sean the sheep is in here.

That movie's great. It's a spin-out from the third short. Or spin-off. Doing Brodies in the mall parking lot. Yeah, I think I want to go there and say Sean the sheep. Okay. All right. Show me, Sean, the sheep.

It was a TV show. But there was a movie. There was a movie. Yeah, there's totally a movie. You were so right. See Mac Addick? Oh, now we just nailed down the right one. Now we just have to fill this in.

If I can fill this in, I won't feel bad. That's right. Two answers left on the board. Brian and Mac Attic have no way to win the game, but Mac Attic can still get the prizes if you clear the board. There's still three strikes between the two of you and only three answers on the board, two answers on the board. You guys can get this. Yeah, I feel pretty good about it. In that

case, I'll give you the two that I love, Scott, and you can choose your field, too, or not Paranorman, which I love. We watched that on Halloween, as well is a monster house. Yeah, I was going to say Paranorman was my next guess. I think we, I think that's safe. Another like a thing, but that really put them on the board. So, yeah, let's do

that. Okay. Paranorman. All right, show me Paranorman. Shit buckets. Number 25 on the board. Oh, it's so good. though. 25 in the list.

Love me some monster house as well. Talley hates stop motion. Yeah. What's that? I was just noticing Talley in the chat is hates stop motion doesn't like how it makes him feel weird to look at it or makes her feel weird. It's like, you know, what was it this show or it was maybe another show

we were talking about how, oh, no, it was on core because the Spider-Verse movies makes some people really feel weird because of this. It's right, sure. Yeah, so I think there's probably one of those deals where you just can't, you know, can't do it anyway uh all right so where are you guys at sorry what did we choose we're trying to help each other here right well yeah yeah we just said the wrong one which was going to be paranormal the other one we watched here in halloween typically is monster house yeah love that movie oh i like that one too that one's a really good movie but it was the first blue ray i ever bought

bought it for tristan oh monster house yeah yeah my first one was nightmare before christmas funny enough oh really yeah well technically same day i got fifth element so i think you know All roads eventually lead to Fifth Element I always go there All right I don't know you guys You want to try that Monster House It's a family favorite for a lot of people

Am I up or is this gotta You're up yeah you're up Oh that house yeah I guess we'll just ask our friend here Then what do you think about it Maccaddy? Do you think we should try the Monster House I think I think so All right I think we should go with it that Monster House

Yes Okay show me Monster House Oh Monster Chatt is saying Monster House is CGI, is that true? I thought it was stop motion. Well, I mean, yeah, a CGI, but a stop motion. Is it? But they put the wrong trousers on there.

We can do this. Come on. Oh, well, yeah, that's a fair point. Okay. Yeah. And I think was Coupo also like the CGI to make it look like it was stop motion or was it real stop motion? No, that one was real stop motion, but they included a bunch of CG elements like background stuff and all that. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. box strolls too i guess uh let's see uh shit i don't i can't think of anything else um i mean there's the third there's that there's that nine movie that but does it no one no one remembers that that was also cg that wasn't stop motion that was cg um i feel like frank and weenie keeps getting mentioned in the chat so if we screw this up i blame them

this is on them all right oh there we go let's blame the audience. I will blame the audience if this is wrong. So let's go with Frank and Weenie. I don't know what else to try. All right. Sounds good. Show me that really early Tim Burton thing.

Frankenweeny. Damn it. Show me your Frankenweeney. They re-did it though, right? Didn't they get remade it? They redid it. Yeah, they redid it with actual like real stop motion. It was a, I think he originally drew, like he drew all the stuff for Frankenweeny.

Did he actually even do like an animated deal? I think he did, right? Or that, or it was like a live action thing or something? Or am I thinking a... I think he did like a little, like a little, a real cheap animated version of Frank and Weenie first, and then they came back and said, let's really do this thing up right.

His real, his little real he did probably, yeah. Hey, let's see what answers are still left on the board. All the tool videos? The rest of walls and grommet shorts. Yeah. Well, you know, you're not too far up. I was hoping you guys would stay on the walls and grommet train. Number five.

Close shave. Their first one, Grand Day Out, their first movie. Oh, Grand Day Out, great one. That one is such a weird one. That's just Nick Park on his own, making his thing. And it is, doesn't hold up, but you could see the magic coming. Like, it was like, oh, special.

Something special coming out. Is that the one? Didn't the, didn't the studio burn down after that one or something? No, no, no. That was way later. That was after chicken run or wear rabbit? it was yeah it was like theatrical this thing he made back in like the 80s like 89 or 90 or something yeah it's a long time ago and uh and that one basically if people uh because there were so many

answers for uh weir rabbit and the wrong trousers and stuff if somebody just put wallace and grommet and didn't put a an identifier i lumped it into this one because this was the first movie there was no other way for me to like make it fair and have a right you know like if you said wallace and grommet and didn't say a movie then then you wouldn't be inclined to to guess the wrong trousers or curse of the wearer at later on because you might think I lumped them all together. Right. Let's see what number seven is. You kind of

started going down this path and then didn't continue with it. Close shave. Rudolph the Reddose Reindeer. I knew that. Damn it! I was so sure that that was Rankin Bass, the old Rankin' Bass animation. Yeah. Let's look at what some of the other answers were lower

in the list. Jason and the Argonauts, Clash of the Titans. people put those in there they had stop motion elements but uh not fully stop motion sure uh frank and ween was number 15 by the way so it did make the list gumby mad god i've never even heard a mad god oh mad god is so good it's new though it came out on shutter it's very weird do not recommend it for people are squeamish oh really yeah like tally avoid mad god you don't want to see that one that one like a hara stop motion animation yeah it's very weird but highly highly regarded people really like it it's pretty cool uh the very recent and And Jenny Slate involved Marcel the Shell with shoes on was number 19.

Nine did make the list at number 20. Nine's great. Frosty to Snowman, another one of those. Nine was CG. That's so weird. That was animation. Well, nine was CG, so I don't know why they chose it. It was still presented in a CG, but it was still an animated way.

I mean, to stop motion. I didn't feel like they'd murky jerky to it. It felt like it was just smooth. I feel like nine. I feel like Nine looked like it was, it was CG that was made to look like it was stop motion. I just don't remember, I guess.

It reminded me of, what was that game with Sackboy on the PlayStation? That's what Nine reminded me of. Oh, yeah, a little big planet. A little big planet, right, right. That song, by the way, that bink, bing, bing, bing, bing, bong, song came up the other day in a playlist.

I'm like, oh, I've forgotten about this song. What a great song. Gilmo del Toros Pinocchio came in. 23. King Kong again, stop motion elements in a live action film. Requium for a Tuesday got a couple votes. That's from Parks and Rec. That was

a little stop motion animation thing that What's his face did? Yeah. Scott's character. Team America World Police. Nope. You people did not understand the assignment. Those are marionettes and not stop motion animation. Did anybody say the PJs

with the Eddie Murphy's? Nobody says on a movie. California raisins, cars, Dream Warriors, nightmare on Elm Street, fantastic planet, Fival goes west.

Yes, these are all answers that people can. Harvey Crumpet, Jack Stobbers, Opel, Lego Batman, Rudolph's Shiny New Year,

Sinbad in the Eye of the Tiger, South Park, kind of, yeah. It's cut paper stop motion, but Star Crash. That was computed. The Hobbit. The Pirates Band of Misfits,

Toy Story, and Walson Grummane, Closeave. Well, they were right on the last one. Most of those, they were incorrect. Toy Story, holy shit. Toy Story, I know. Also, I looked at the trailer for 9. It's 100% CG not trying to look like. Stop motion to me.

Oh, I think it. I mean, the characters are? Because they look like little bags and stuff, but they're not hirky jerky. It's just smooth CG. Yeah. You know what I mean? Smooth CG.

Like my front. It looks like any CG to me. Yeah. You know, at the time, I feel like it reminded me of that, but I see, looking at it now, it's kind of like Robots was. You remember that movie Robots where it was, they were made to look like little, like real life little things and not look like the slick CG that we're kind of used to with stuff like Toy Story and robots is underrated.

I like that movie. I agree. Yeah. By the way, the Rankin' Bass stuff, this is just a funny little aside. They look like the Trump Biden debates. Let me show you. Hold on. The heat miser and snowmiser and snowmise stuff. Yeah, yeah. Doesn't that? I mean, if that, that may as well be a debate photo right there. Yeah. Love it. That actually is kind of awesome. Yeah, I love it. Well, there you go. You know what that means. It means, unfortunately, this. We have a loser, but we don't think of them as a loser.

loser. He's a winner in our hearts and minds, but a man, it's sad. It's a little sad, but don't worry, there'll be a future time where you get to come in and try to defend your name. Did you enjoy yourself at least today? Oh, I did, and happy birthday, Scott. Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate it. May all your max be addicting.

All right, there he goes. Dunaway, it is our time this weekend, Friday. We are going to get together at 130 Mountain Time at frogpants.tv, and we are going to talk all about a very, very old arcade game. Yes, Gradius.

Gradius, thank you very much. We're going to talk about that early shootums-ups. It's like a tempest without the vector. Kind of, yeah. Oh, that's a good way of putting it. Well, no, wait, Gradius was more, I always said Gradius. Is it gradius or Gradius? I don't know.

Gratius. Isn't that the one that where you're flying in a circle? No, it's going. Why don't I just post the name in the chat there? It's going, it's a, not vertical. shooter, more like... Oh, it is. Okay. Like Scramble.

Oh, Gyrus. Thank you, the Raith 86. Gyrus. You know, Gradius contains the word radius. So maybe that's why I think it's a circle. That's right. It's perfect. It's perfectly normal. It's a really, really great series.

I love Gradius. If you like side-scrolling bullet hell, you know, that whole era, it's one of the best, by far. Konami did it good. They did it real good. Got your power-ups. Got your shoot-em-ups. It's really good.

And we're going to talk about. the ones that were at the arcade and that eventually did make it to some home consoles here in the U.S. So we're going to be talking about one, two, three, and four, even though two kind of never made it here. Sort of, kind of, until later. But anyway. Yeah. No, that's great. I'm looking forward to it. That's what we're going to do. In the meantime, Brian Dono, I have a fantastic week, okay? No, no, you. We look forward to seeing you and so much more. All right, bye now. Where are we now? Oh, it's time to take a break. When we come back, from this break. We are going to spend some time with Tom Merritt. We're going to talk some tech.

We're going to move on from that to recommendals. It's just going to be a fun old time. So stick around for all of that stuff while Brian brings up a song and tells us all about it. Yeah, there's so much to get to. Let's get to this first, an L.A. Power Trio that goes by the name Junior Juggernaut. They've got a brand new LP coming out called Another Big Explosion. This thing comes out in about a month, a little under a month, August 9th on Mind Power Records. big things to earshot media for this one. But this is the first single just came out. And if you like folks like the replacements, Husker Do, and even Neil Young,

I think you're going to like this. It's got that kind of garage rock kind of feel to it. Here's the first single. It's called Everything I Touch. The band is Junior Juggernaut. Hanging out, hanging out all the day with you Calling out every single thing that you do And you, you turn around so I can't see

Your eyes are telling up Because your heart is breaking Your heart's breaking No, I don't know what I'm so hard on you I don't know what everything When I touched just by getting through Makes me feel sad to hear that I'm fed to cry Falling out, falling out of favor with you

Self-reflects pay something I do You turn and walled away for one last time I got what I deserve Lowell headlight No I don't know I'm so hard on you I don't know my heart so hard

on you I don't know my everything that I touched just fucking blue they're looking up to the sky the end up to the sky in the end up in the face

my heart Oh, you know, and so on it. No, I don't know what I'm so hard on you. No, I don't know what I'm so hard on you. I don't know what everything that's just black and blue makes you feel sad Don't you fall?

Now, I'm not surprised. I'm not a prize. I'm not a prize. Oh. Hey, ladies out of man, please out of your, watch out for your, watch out for a guy. What do you want? And we're back. Tell me who that was again.

Sure. That's a band called Junior Juggernaut. I'm Junior Juggernaut, bitch. With, from their brand new album coming out next month called Another Big Explosion. That's the first single. It's called Everything I Touch. Nice.

That's excellent. We're going to bring Tom in, and we're going to talk about a very timely topic. That is also, I believe, going to be what we talk about in more length on the show today on DTNS. So this will be a good test of whether or not people want to talk about this. I would argue that Stephanie Inipetz may want to ignore what we're going to talk about. Oh, no. Yeah. So you'll find out shortly what that's all about as we call Tom and bring him in.

We want Tom. We do want Tom. Tom, good news is he's wantable and has wanted to be on. So he's here to be on. I've been found wanting. You've been found wanting. That's right. And we're happy to give you what you want, all right?

Yeah. And I want you to want me. I do too. There's almost a song. There's a song in there somewhere. Tom Merritt, everybody. He is Tom, the Tom Merritt you've all heard of, the guy that knows all about the tech stories.

And every day he works tirelessly to get them ready for the day. Daily Tech New Show. Today is no different. I get tired. You get a little tired? Okay. Yeah, but I pushed through. I've never understood that phrase because it actually means, it more means that you're tired than it does anything else.

Right? Yeah. Because like, oh, he works tirelessly to bring this to you. Tirelessly, right. He works without getting tired. Less tiredness. Yeah. Very weird.

He works with less tiredness. Yeah. It's very strange. But anyway, it's good to have you here. We're going to talk. mostly mobile. This also applies to other kind of games, but I think this is an interesting subject you brought up in your text to me earlier, and I'm very much looking forward to exploring it, because I think it's interesting. Most people assume the opposite of what you found. So let's lay

it out. What are we talking about today? Comscore issued its 2024 State of Gaming Report, and what the company does is survey just about 5,000 people between the ages of 18 and 65. They conducted the survey back in March, ask them a bunch of questions like, do you play video games? How often do you play video games, et cetera? The 5,000 respondents all played video games at least

once a month, and possibly multiple times a week. Interestingly, 77% of them played on more than one platform. So these respondents aren't specifically console, you know, PC or

mobile. 40% played across all platforms. So console, PC, and mobile. What they found is that a third of them said in-game ads affected their gaming experience negatively.

That means two-thirds either said, eh, don't care. I'm neutral, or I like ads. I feel positive about them. And that's the part, Scott, that you were referring to as, huh, hold on a minute. If you look at the internet and see social media, you'll know for sure that at least three people have told me how awful ads in video games are, and it ruins their experience.

So doesn't everyone hate ads? What I would say about this, the variety article I think is a little bit too positive. 45% say they don't mind watching pop-up ads. That means 55% do mind watching pop-up ads. 34% said product placement make games feel more real that of course also means that two thirds don't feel

that it makes games feel more real but 34% may be more than you would have expected what the way I'm Scott I'm curious what you think of this and Brian you too this makes me feel like gamers are just used to ads at this point

more of them than I would have thought don't mind don't feel like it makes things negative, but we sort of are ambivalent. We don't love them. We don't hate them. It's just the way the world works now. Yeah, embedded ads, where are we now about 16 years or something since this has been a thing? Like, 08, you started to see them pop up in the first app store and some of those apps had ads. And if you're talking about other platforms, integrated ads have been a thing since EA put ad paid for billboards in the game. game wipeout or no not wipe out what the hell was that called anyway oh burnout paradise that

game had the weirdest thing is you'd be like driving in one day you'd see a coke billboard and you'd think oh that's interesting there's coke billboards in this game the next day you'd be playing the game and you'd be going that same stretch of freeway and it was like a ford ad and you're like wait a minute they change them and you start to realize oh these can be dynamic how did they change them so fast it takes a while to pull down a billboard and yeah I mean you know two I guess in 2018 plus years we've all had, or 2008 plus, we've had good internet and it makes sense with online connected stuff all the time, especially the PC and mobile market. But anyway, long and the short of it for me is this. I expected that number to be higher, people not liking it or even being

adamantly against it. And I think that shows a little bit of my personal bias because I came into that world not having that and now they're there. I think there's a whole, whole generation of people, probably part of this respondent's group, who this is all they've known. And so it's normal to them. Or it's at the very least, they can put it out of their mind and not think about it. This doesn't get

into games that are full of micro transactions or energy boosts or any of that stuff. This is just ads. Yeah, yeah. So that's an interesting focus, right? Because there's a whole other aspect of this. There's lots of other findings in the survey including 82%

say they have made an in-game purchase in a free game. Right. And so proving it works, right? Well, we know it works because that's a huge part of this multi-billion dollar industry. They wouldn't do it if it didn't work. It would have stopped. Right. People would be like when Activision, when Microsoft bought Activision Blizzard King, everybody thought, oh, well, yeah, they're getting all those Blizzard IPs and all that Activision that call a duty money. The real money is in the King acquisition. Like the real dollars and cents. Yeah, it's huge. And no one ever thinks about it because it's not sexy. It's not interesting. It doesn't really make headlines. But that's where the money's at.

Brian, you're a big-time mobile gamer. I am. How does it land on you when you see an ad and a thing? If you're like me, I'm like, can I pay three bucks and pay out of this thing? That's what I usually do. Exactly. That is the first thing I think of. And I just did that.

I actually just did that with the game I was talking about earlier, Gun Show. You get the full experience with, you know, without paying for it. But if you want to restart a level, you have to watch an ad, or if you pay three bucks or four bucks or whatever. then you get to bypass all that. And for me, I look at it as twofold. It's like, all right, I'm getting something for this. I'm getting, you know, this experience, full experience without ads.

But I'm also, this is the way to support the developers of the game. I could, I don't get interested in watching a king nearly get doused by a bunch of lava as he's trying to get his money anymore enticing me to play another game, whatever that is, royal match. which seems like the ad i get in every single other mobile game which is one way you can support the developers by following those links and buying the other games so for me it's like five bucks to if i really like a game if i like a game even a little bit i'll pay five bucks to support the developers i've probably be you know with season passes in marvel snap i've probably paid maybe a hundred bucks total maybe 150 total in the life of that

game year and a half that it's been around or at least since season passes have been around it's 10 bucks a month totally worth it to me for the experience yeah i guess that's not it's not keeping ads out because it's not like they're uh doing micro transactions to prevent ads but but that is why i do it for the most part it's a keep the ads away um b support the developer and if you and if you have a game where you make me pay for something and i and but it doesn't take away the ads i'm probably going to stop playing it yeah Or if you have a game that doesn't have an option to pay up out of it, and all it is is ads, and that's just the way they support it. I can't do it very long.

Ads between every level will definitely turn me off a game. The occasional ad on the bottom of the thing while I'm playing a game, I'll probably ignore it. Yeah. Science. And I think that's the thing about the two-thirds, right? A bunch of those folks are ambivalent, right? They're like, I'm neutral. I don't love it.

I don't think it's positive. Some people actually think it's positive. And maybe their logic is like, it supports the developer, like you were saying, Brian. But most people are like, it's fine as long as it doesn't get in the way. So, yeah, if you drill down, there's going to be some games that are really annoying and you stop playing because it's too annoying. I play a solitary game that throws an ad up every once in a while. And I just sit there and I wait for it to time out. I don't love it.

It doesn't enhance the experience, but I get to play it for free. So I'm, you know, like, yeah, okay, fine. I just wait for that thing to click off and turn out. It turns out that people don't take to social media to complain about how ambivalent they feel about ads, right? So the silent majority of people are just like, yeah, whatever, it's fine. I don't love it, but it doesn't make me stop playing in most cases. This is perhaps the lesson of the discussion is another reason to just remind yourself that the echo chamber and the loudness of what is happening necessarily on your social feeds doesn't necessarily reflect the reality of it all.

It's easy to just say, these companies are greedy bastards. And in some cases, they are. I'm not saying there aren't cases like that. What I'm saying, though, is things like this, they're doing them because they work, right? People buy them, they click them. They do the thing they do. If they didn't, they wouldn't. It'd be really that simple.

If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it. Now, you can say some of the practices are predatory, and I agree. Some of them are. They also take advantage of people who are perhaps more prone to just getting the value of their money and just throwing it away. This happens all the time. But some are more responsible about it. There's a whole range there. But just, you know, remember, the loudest voice isn't always the most popular.

Also, people lie. Yeah, that's the other thing is they lie a lot. That's true. Lots of lies. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes people say, like, well, I never play anything with ads. And they definitely play things with ads.

ads, right? But they want to appear to be above that sort of thing. And so they say that. Now, of course, I don't mean you listening right now. You're very pure and honest and everything. But there are, sadly, people like that out there. They are. And I'm really grateful for, oh, there's supposedly a little bit of science

starting to float around about the best methods. And one of them I heard from somebody who's in the business said, I wish I could point to his name or tell you where his channel is because I thought it was interesting. I used to work at Blizzard. It has a lot of smarts about this stuff. And he said that the way the way that you get customers to like what you're doing and supplement your thing via ads

is that occasional little box that says, hey, you just want 100 gold by doing the thing you did. Do you want 500 gold? Because if you watch this 30 second ad, you'll get 500 gold. His point was, there's an exchange there. There is a choice to be made. And if you decide that it's worth it for the extra gold, then you have given them the time to show you an ad, they have given you something in return, you can use the thing in return.

It's the ones where it's just like, here's an ad, sorry, we're breaking up everything, go ahead and forget you were playing a game for 30 seconds because we're making you watch an ad. There's no fair exchange there. Or there's no, I shouldn't say fair, it's not the right word, but there's not something there that you're giving and they're giving back for.

So you are starting to see more do that on premium ads. Or, yeah, for, sorry, for ads systems, then you are not. And I think that's good. I like that, yeah. It does give you the option. You don't have to see that ad. And if you do, you're making money for the developer, which wins for them. And you're getting something in return. If you feel like it's worth it, which is a win for you. Yeah. It turns out we're not perfect at ads yet. So there's a lot of ineffective ads out there. But advertising, you know, I know there's the knee jerk response of like, I hate ads. You hate bad ads. You hate ads that annoy you. Some ads that annoy you are effective. If you really honestly review your life like Albert Camus, you will find out that you, in fact, bought something because of an ad that annoyed you, right? It annoyed you into being aware and you eventually purchased that thing.

But the best ads don't annoy you. The best ads make you enjoy them, make you talk about them. Have you seen that funny ad? I always go to movie trailers. People voluntarily go online and watch movie trailers. Those are ads. You are exposing yourself to an ad when you watch movie trailers. but you don't think of it that way because it's something you want. So good advertising,

you know, good product placement enhances the story. Good, good product placement is something where you're like, you're not saying, well, that seems out of place. You're like, ooh, that made the world that much richer. And actually also made the game developer that much richer at the same time, everybody wins. Yeah, it's just like watching a TV show full of Dell monitors or max or whatever you see every time. Sometimes it can be, it can feel a little egregious. You watch like an Apple TV Plus show, and you're like, nobody has, only the villain has an Android phone. Only the bad guys have Android phones. Yeah. That seems a little, you know. Or the clunky thing like, hey, is that a new Dell monitor? That looks great. Why, yeah, it is. Let me pull up the file on the criminal on this beautiful Dell. Like, yeah, that's clunky. But if it's, you know, if it's weaved into the story well, then you don't mind. Yeah, that's life because those products are in our lives and it's fine. I'm looking forward to peeling that onion a little bit more. day on the show. So it's a great pick. I was really struggling to find something

good this week, so I'm really glad you found it. And it fits my wheelhouse and I think the show really well. So watch for that later today, 2.30 Mountain Time. Sorry, 2 p.m. Mountain Time. I keep saying 30. Why do I do that two years later? Used to be years ago. Years ago. Literally years of the past. You're just showing it. You've been in

there since the beginning. Lord. I guess so. It's not much of a flex, I have to admit. But anyway, that'll be today. And I'll be on there and be joining Roger, Sarah, and all the behind the scenes, folks. It's very exciting stuff. So be there if you can.

Tom Merritt, anything else going on today? FreeTechNewsletter.com comes out on Thursdays for free. Every day, if you want to upgrade to a paid subscription, it's the freebie of model. I don't do ads, though. So you can go get that. I'll have in the paid version today my own little write-up on this story, as well as a story on how virtual reality can help people with eating disorders and body dysmorphia by helping them inhabit the body. they think they should. And we might talk about that on GDI today as well.

So keep an eye out for that. That's free tech newsletter.com. That's fantastic. You'll get to hear me admit that I think I have a form of body dysmorphia on the show today. Okay. That'll be fun. We're definitely doing that at GDI. It's not, it's not in the typical way you might think.

Scott thinks he's a cat. I might be a cat. All right. The words out, I just made a, I made a poopie in a box over there. Does that make me a cat? All right. See you, Tom. All right.

That's it for that. How about recommendals? You like those, right? I like those. I like those, too. I like Tom and I like recommendals. Boy, I like Wednesdays. You know, they're just great. Oh, did we get a link from Nicole last second? We did. We did. Yay. She sent a little video. Excellent. Excellent. All right. We'll get them in here then and get this going. I assume they're home now. They were in Colorado a long time. They were, yeah, they're definitely back home. We didn't give a chance to see him this visit because Tina got sick.

But next time. They'll be back. I meant to check on that. How is she feeling? Is she good? oh she's totally fine now yeah good good good she held on to that thing for like uh six days seven days man it was rough summer colds it wasn't you guys test for co it wasn't covid right it was something else some other cold or whatever it was it was it oh was it covid i didn't want to didn't want to just announce it if she didn't want me to announce it oh i didn't know that was a thing to hide or not hide but to keep quiet you know i don't know if uh she she she didn't go back to work until she tested clean we didn't go to billy joel until she tested clean but uh

Yeah, it was. That's a bummer. I just don't know if I have her permission to announce it on the show. But I just did. Way to go, Scott. Also, we're having a real surge right now, so everybody just be a little careful out there. Exactly. And somehow I dodged the whole thing.

Yeah, I don't know how you're a lucky bastard. All right, let's get to this thing we do here. Well, what do you recommend? We recommend things from streaming services that we have seen and think our audience might like. And we do it with two fun things. guests and friends who join us. Let's start with Nicole Spagg. Hi, Nicole. You're back home. Hi, I am back home.

And my sickness was from drinking Clearwater Creek when I fell off our raft. Do you get like a parasite or something? What happened? I did. It was probably like E. coli. I don't know what it was but I was not well for a few

days. Are you telling me that the very Rocky Mountain Springwater that we used to make Coors beer might have something bad in it? Yeah, there is. I fell off the wrap and all I remember is like it was a rapid that I fell

in and it was just like going in my face. You made me feel slightly closer to you because I've fallen in that same river and had to get pulled out by a bunch of people's a scout trip thing. I didn't get sick though so I guess I didn't swallow any of the dirty

pee water or whatever but. You ain't been Colorado rapid rafting until you fall in in the water. You know, anybody who's done it, you haven't done it unless you fall in the one. Oh, then you have rid in the rapids. I was the only one. Everybody's like, did you fall in?

I'm like, clearly. Ringing out your life jacket. Yeah, clearly. That's a beautiful run though. I love that whole stretch. It was beautiful. I just felt really bad because Ava cried the whole time. I fell in.

But she recovered. She recovered and it was okay. She worried about her mom. Mom, that's fine. That's what kids should do. Well, that ensures many happy Mother's Days in the future. We also have with us, Randy Jordan.

Hi, Randy. Good, birthday. Birthday stream. Happy birthday to you. I think if someone was to look at the pictures of the two of you right now and ask him, well, who's the birthday guy? Well, one looks dressed really happy.

And the other one looks dressed in black like he's working backstage at a play. Yeah, I look like, I do. I look like I'm running the door. Today, today is the day, yes. Today is the haunting day. Oh, I have it on my calendar is yesterday. Oh, no, 17th. Here's how you remember. When does David Hasselhoff celebrate? And then you like, that's also Scott's birthday. Yeah. That's right. Okay. I'm moving your birthday. Stupid Google. And it makes it really confusing to know whether or not when someone says,

hey, you're a cancer, whether they're saying something bad about you. Right. Right. Right. That's a good way of putting it. Also, I share a birthday with, hold on, let me see if I can find them here. Oh, Phyllis Diller was born today. And also famous the baseball player, Tony Stone. So, you know, me and the Hoff and these two. No. No, there's some others too, but I can't find him. Oh, Camilla Park Bowls.

Camilla Park Bowls, the Queen of England. Wow, Queen of England, yes. Yeah, her and I are celebrating together. Anyway, well, that's fantastic. Good to have you all here and to share this time with you. Let's get to these recommendals. Brian, we're going to start with a clip from you. Set it up, please. Yeah. Boy, oh, boy, have I really disguised what this, what this movie is in this clip?

No one listening to this will ever be able to figure out what I watch this week. So good luck trying to figure it out, people. Oh, man. Let's get to the clip. I'll take your challenge. Detective Foley. Detective Bobby Abbott. Can you get me Taggart, please? Chief? Taggart?

Pretty sure he's busy. Can you tell him there's Axel Foley? Okay, and how do you know the chief? Well, this isn't my first time in Beverly Hills. I saw that. Did you ever read your own file? This is a lot. Disturbing the piece, various shootouts evading the police. This is from 84. Then there's one from 87.

And then 94? Not your finest hour. Taggart. Anybody here got eyes on Taggart? I want to talk to Taggart. Hey, you? Can you get me Taggart? Trent, uh, do not do that? Don't be a bitch, Trent. Get me tagger.

Why were you in Billy Roosevelt's office? You know, Rosewood's trying to fuck out of my case. Are you trying to help him? Oh, Ms. Foley, I appreciate. You've been doing this a long time, but the world has changed a big. You can't just sit across the desk from another male and say something to threaten my manhood and think I'm just going to get so flustered with insecurity

I forget what we were talking about. But that's worked a lot for you in the past, but it's not going to work with me. let me ask you one more time why were you in rosewood's office dude that joke about 94 is funny that is funny that's why but that's why i did this clip is because that that that was such a let's see if we can sneak this by and see who notices it kind of joke and it's so funny and that movie is garbage that is hot garbage it was not terrible like like uh joseph gordon levitt said right there it was not axel foley's finest moment beverly hill's top three but the other the other two were uh the

other two years he mentioned so is you know 84 and 87 um yeah come on now it's beverly hills cop axle f um new thing on netflix and you might be saying yourself yeah i've been looking at this what's that no it was netflix it was netflix and today's scott's birthday um it's all right you were in the river yeah the river water i love you to call i'm kidding no i started to watch it is why i'm saying and i thought i was watching it on amazon I have this problem all the time. I have done that. I have done that. I have this all the time.

I'll start a thing and then I'll finish or I'll get halfway done and have to go somewhere. I'll come back and I go, where the F was I watching that? Like that's a, that's a sign we have maybe too many choices right now. You know what I mean? I think so. Yeah. And they all look the same and they sound the same when you start them up. Anyway, this is the fourth film in the Beverly Hills Cop series.

And you've probably looked at this and said, do I want to watch this? Is this going to be all fan service or is it going to be? you know, a good news story. And I'm going to tell you that it's kind of somewhere in between. It is entertaining. And I think if you liked Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2, then you'll like this. This is, um, it doesn't break any new ground. And if you're expecting a lot of fan service, well, guess what?

You get it. You get Judge Reinhold. You get Paul Reiser. You get Bronson Pinchot. Um, you get some new characters and villains and, uh, and, um, and sidekicks in the form of, uh, like, like Kevin Bacon, Joseph Gordon Levitt. You get, well, I won't say that part. I won't spoil one thing on it.

But basically you get Eddie Murphy doing a montage where he goes from Detroit to Beverly Hills. And as he's driving through Beverly Hills, he's looking over at the things that are really weird in Beverly Hills and going, oh, he brought the laugh back. So nothing has changed in 30 years. It's 30 years. It's the same exactly. Well, here's another thing that I don't think has changed. When I see promos for this and I've seen trailers for it and all that and I am going to watch it, I'm a fan.

Eddie Murphy is eating baby seal fetuses or something because he's not aging at all. Eddie Murphy apparently has a blood boy that he uses to get transfusions nightly with younger blood to keep him looking young. That's a Silicon Valley reference for like the five people in the audience. I thought it was a Mad Max reference. Yeah. Either way. Either way. It could be that, too. Universal donor.

Why not? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, and I don't know how Eddie Murphy has managed to stay looking the same age. And boy, oh, boy, the years have hit Judge Reinhold and John Ashton, who's Taggart, and Paul Riser and Bronson Pinchot. But you know what? They still look great. They look like they've lived.

And that's what anybody, any of us can really hope for. They have aged. Taggart and Rosewood have aged like normal human beings. Yes. Eddie Murphy is not normal. Right. Yeah, it's more a thing about Eddie Murphy and less a thing about these other people who look like you would expect them to look 30 years later. It's crazy to me how good he looks. But anyway.

It's directed by a guy who's never directed a feature film before, a guy named Mark Molloy. He is Australian. And he's done commercials and television stuff up until now. And he does, I think, just a fine job with this. You are going to get a soundtrack that sounds exactly like the previous installments. And what I mean by that is, of course, you're going to hear Faltermeyer's Axel F theme, which you heard there as well. But you're also going to hear shakedown the Bob Seeger song. You're going to hear Neutron Dance by the Pointer Sisters.

You're going to hear basically if you were hoping you'd get it. to hear all the songs from the previous movies. Guess what? You get to hear all the previous songs from the previous movies. It is, it's entertaining. You know what? It's good. They don't, like I said, they don't break any new ground. And I think in a case like this, where we've had things that tried to be really wacky for their new film, direct to TV, direct to video after a long time, Matrix, where they try and break new ground and don't succeed at it, Matrix. This is actually a really good version of all that. So, does it, oh, I keep hearing good things about, like, the car chases and the action stuff is actually really good.

Yeah, the car chases, very, very clever, just like they kind of always been, right? Like, I think the first film you've got Eddie hanging onto the chains on the back of a semi-truck that, you know, he's just busted the robbery for. And so there's car chases where he's kind of having to do that. They do new stuff like that in this. And you're always, just like you were in the first films, asking yourself, is it worth causing this much damage to catch one drug dealer? And apparently the answer to Axel Foley is, yes, yes, it is, with this much damage to catch one drug dealer. Sure. No Ronnie Cox, though, because Ronnie Cox died.

So he won't do that. No Ronnie Cox and no, because his former sergeant from the first two films passed away in 2016, or actually. passed away in Beverly Hills Cop 3 and then the actual actor died in 2016 you don't get that guy either but um forgot about that there is there are a lot of cute little

Easter eggs and one that is a hilarious Easter egg from a completely different movie I absolutely won't spoil that but it's it's a really funny really funny why is that in here kind of moment that's worth seeing

you know a lot of ways I think this the series deserves some credit for being Proto, all of these kinds of, like, cop comedy, semi-serious, semi-comedy sort of cop things. And examples would be like the entire bad boys series, I don't think he exists without Beverly Hills cop. It's got almost the same vibe.

In fact, in my head, I'm like, oh, yeah, Joey Pants is in Beverly Hills Cop. No, he's the chief and the other ones. So like, do you even have these? Like the Will Ferrell, Marky Markle and the other guys. The other guys. Another good example. Yeah.

Yeah. I have really fond feelings for this whole thing, except for three three's terrible and that's i think why we're happy that it doesn't try and change things up like oh no this time the rosewood and taggart are coming to detroit and it's going to be a whole different experiences they drive down the street and see all the weird things in detroit uh no this is you know it follows the it follows the formula that worked before and it does it really well and mark mark mark right sorry sorry it's all right he's doing wood business i get it It's fine.

My takeaway from this film is we got a new Lil Nas X song from it. I know this because my Spotify DJ is broken. Seriously, at any given time, I am getting a song from Spotify DJ that I don't really want to hear every day. And it's currently, here we go by Lil Nas X. Oh, that's funny. And it's a good song. It's fine. It's just like it's Lil Nas all auto tune.

and there's a huge backbeat. Like, it's exactly what you expect, yeah. Okay. I liked his, go down in the thing with the dare, watch myself some old Judge Ryan hold on a hand. Oh, man. Yeah.

The current living king of AutoTune right there. Yeah, he's enjoying himself. All right. Well, that's excellent. So there you go. It's on Netflix. It's Beverly Hills Cop Axel F, and it is,

if you like all the things that I just described, you will like this. All right. Nicole, let's swing it over to you. Any preference to or any thing you want to say? Before we do this one, it's just the movie that I watch with the kids. It's not that great. But I do want to talk about is the last season of how to with John Wilson.

I finally finished it. The last episode was crazy. And I'm wondering if you watch that. It was how to track your package. Yeah, I did. It was amazing. We haven't finished the last season yet, but now it sounds like we really need to. You must.

We just completely shifted recommendals here. I am way more interested in hearing why I need to hurry up and finish this. I'm going to drop in a photo that I took. So we went to Estes Park on the vacation, and I stayed at the Stanley Hotel. We decided I was going to do the Shining Tour by myself. But Mateo decided to come with me. This is Mateo in the simulated cryogenic, the frozen dead guy of Colorado. Remember we were talking about that?

Yeah. All right. So the frozen dead guy, I was like, how does this relate to the shining? The tour was awful. But we got this photo of Matteo standing in this. It's a great photo. Why do they need so many remote controls on the shelf next to Mateo, by the way? What is that about?

why is that is weird that the tour made no sense that all the tour guide was uh for the ghost part of it was showing us photos of quote unquote ghosts and i'm just like what they it was weird anyway here's here's where these are two can how to with john wilson the last episode how to track a package is directly connected with this company really the cryogenic company okay yes yes you get it Inside look, he goes to Alcor, he meets a guy that works there. And that guy, holy crap, you just need to watch the episode, Brian. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait.

Dude, it's an amazing series. Are they done with it? Is that it? We're not getting any more John Wilson? It's done, yeah. And only 18 episodes, that's what really blows my mind because it feels like it's so much more. Yeah, well, I mean, the seasons are, I mean, it's an amazing show. I think the first time I even heard of it was here, and I think it was Nicole with season one, and we got completely hooked.

It was our favorite thing as a family during the pandemic. We loved that first season. It was so good. And I think it holds it up all the way throughout. So the fact that there's not going to be more is a serious bummer to hear that. I know. I still think about the, like the Mandela Effect episode still lives in my rent-free in my brain with him going around to the grocery store and putting stickers onto boxes of all the people. packages that he remembers differently like sunglasses on the raisin brand and yeah that was great yeah yeah

there's an exchange between him and the uh the the the frozen alcore guy um and he says oh you know it's kind of like have you ever seen the vanilla sky with tom cruz is about cryogenics and the guy goes is that the one with the matrix he goes no that's the matrix Why didn't you use this as your recommendal? You're going to play that clip? We did. We changed it. This is what we're.

Yeah, this is our new recommendal. Forget about if on wherever if is. If on Paramount, it's good for kids. It's not that good. I, you know what? I'll defend it a little bit. We enjoyed it. We saw in the theater, if, and it was cute.

I think, no expectations. Go in with low expectations. But I think the cameos were really, or not the cameos, the voices were really funny. I really like some of those. other imaginary friends and I think that that some of them are hilariously well done but yeah I don't know it was very confusing to me because I didn't you have to go into that movie with the mind of a child right because there was a lot of stuff happening and I'm like I'm so confused what's going on I don't understand why this girl's going with a grown man like what

Where's what I'm going on? Yeah. And that's why I just, I had a hard time. I watched it as a mom, as an adult. Oh, sure, sure. You know, as a parent who might not let their child run off with a weird Ryan Reynolds, basically. Yeah. This is another reason why you shouldn't like Curious George.

Curious George is just, it's terrible when you look at it from the perspective of the parent. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, curious George is kind of. effed up, isn't it? There's things about it. It's such a brain dead dad. Like, oh,

it's just weird. No. Deadest of brains, that guy. But if you're curious to see the shining tour, I put photos up on my Instagram of me and Matteo as the twins. It seems like they're barely

doing enough to draw people, but not too much to overdraw people there. No, it's overdrawn. So I told, I told Brian this that it will, I will be so surprised if the Stanley Hotel is still in business, you know, two years from now, because they are leaning hard into the supernatural, but they're doing it terribly. Like that poor, that poor, uh, maze. Yeah. Oh, it's, here's the thing.

It's three times. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. They like, they basically are like, oh, we're trying to be this really serious, nice posh hotel. We're really trying to do this whole thing, but we keep getting tourists here who want to see stuff and want to know about the shining and we don't have a lot of shining stuff. I don't know. What's the least we could do to satisfy these shining people? And it's building a foot tall hedge maze.

It's putting together a crappy tour. It's selling, you know, red rum coffee mugs and room 23 door things that you can put, you could bring home from their gift shop. They basically begrudgingly are leaning into the shining thing as opposed to welcoming it. They're not begrudgingly leaning into it. They're like the tours that they set up. Yeah. Like we got pushed out because they had too many tours set. It was crazy.

Well, let me rephrase it. Not begrudgingly, but they're doing it. They're going into it late in the game where they've been. trying to push away from that for such a long time that now basically any efforts they make are really half-assed. Yeah, that sounds right. Based on what I saw, how fast is the right word. Yes.

Well, and they're pissing off the rich people that have gone there for decades. Yeah. Because there were people like, one guy, he's like, I've been coming here for blah, blah, blah. This used to be all elk. Yeah. I'm just like, sorry, dude. Yeah. It's a crappy maze now.

Yeah. Stephen King wins in the end. Sorry. That's just how it is. This country used to be all elk as far as I could see. Yeah. I love that. That's what it sounds like.

Well, anyway, I'm glad you got to go to it just so we get to talk about it because I don't know, I don't know anyone who's gone. And I've always been curious about it. So now I will no longer be that curious about it. No. No, it's good to, you know, go check out the outside. It's a beautiful hotel. And it's, you know, you go into the front entrance. it's really cool, but don't go there expecting to get the Shining experience.

No. Like the Shilling tour. Yeah. I was going to say. The Shining tour was maybe five minutes of talking about the Shining. And like, it was just, I was like, dude, stop talking so fast, trying to rush me through. Like, it was just, it was, I felt icky. I had fun with Mateo.

Well, that's good. Having fun with your kids is all the matter. I was really hoping there was a broom You'd go in and it'd be like a dead lady in the tub I really wanted that In that photo There is a set up scene And he really tried to set this

broom up And was showing us pictures of eyes And people like to be scared And Mateo was like I don't understand He's like there was nothing there I'm like Your brain can play really crazy tricks on you when you want to be scared and do so they had the tub set up with a skeleton

and you could you could put your face through the door like it was a little set up thing it's great it's also like whatever like they wanted to vote the smallest amount of space to to a shining thing right like yeah yeah the other reason they're going to go broke is that um if you want to stay at the stanley and you probably experience this you can't go up there for a night you have to have a minimum of two nights or three nights on the weekends like you have to or is it two nights on the weekends or is it three nights I don't I don't know we stayed in the lodge this is the other thing I didn't realize the hotel it's the Stanley Hotels yes yes and there's the lodge which is next to the main

hotel um there and then and then there's one that's a because there's a gate there's a guard that you have to pay $10 to get in. He takes him on the guard tour to your room. If you're staying there, you don't have to pay the $10. Right. But then there's another place, and that's where the pool was. And Ava was so mad because it was an adult-only pool, which means nobody went to this pool.

Right. Meanwhile, Mark is there saying, yeah, everybody had their top on. It was boring. Yeah, that's not the kind of adult pole I signed up for. That's right. I was really hoping. Blame. Yeah.

I'll take my experience from 20 years ago when I went up there and snuck past the velvet rope, no guard, and wandered around the hallways, taking pictures, and say, now, this is cool. But I'll do my own shining tour that was definitely not allowed. As you should do is sneak in there and, like, you can run the tour, but don't tell anyone. People are just following Brian around. That's right. you're, like, pointing stuff out quietly and, you know, I can think that. I'll dress like, uh, I'll dress like, um, uh, Jack Nicholson at the end with like icicles hanging down from my nose.

Yeah. All right. Let's take you down the next to call. You would have, you would have so many happy people if he did that. Yeah. Um, Stephen King did stay there. They will tell you the story of Stephen King staying there in the dream that he had that inspired the shining. And he stayed in room 217. And they've since split that room in half.

And so there's two Stephen King rooms that you can stay in. And I, out of curiosity, I said, so when can, like, when's the next available for that room? She goes, we have two spots in December. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Forget it. $1,000 a night. It's $1,000 a night?

Yes. No, I'm not going. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm never doing that. And the kind of people that want to spend $1,000 a night, I don't want to be. around them they sound weird you know yeah all right well there you have all this other they have like a hall where they have like a magician and a seance person uh there so it's it's a whole thing but i will say the cherry pie delicious really how much how much was the cherry pie that's the

question was it really expensive it was reasonable it's so good makes a grown man cry is liar well all right i could use a good cry sorry Right. That's my Stanley Stephen King Shining Recap. So here we go. So how to with John Wilson, recommended. Shining Tour and if, well, Shining Tour, not

recommended, if recommended if you have kids. Yeah. There you go. There you go. All right. No, that's a good I like everything about what you've done today. Guess what? In Quicktm.S.L.I. You're just going to get a phone. Sorry. Sorry. That's fine. That's fine. Sorry. I'm all overplayed.

I've been gone for Hello, I've been gone for the last two, right? A couple of them around, or at least one. No, you think it was two, right, yeah. Yeah, I don't remember if you called the remote. You called remote on something. I don't remember what it was, though. I can't remember.

I've been gone. Well, it's good to have you back. Randy, let's fly over to you now and talk about your clip. Yeah, I could go really fast because I am not recommending anything you haven't already seen. But you need to see it again. You need to see it again soon. So roll a clip, you're going to know exactly what. My recommendal is as soon as it's done.

I'm just like Brian this week. I've got a very clear. Very clear path to success. Here we go. Clear, obvious, obvious clip. Indeed. Nice. Smells good, no?

Not the daffodil daydream. The girl. Ah, yes, Gita. She is quite lovely. She would have made me a very agreeable wife. But, uh, Gita's heart has been stolen by my cousin, Bandhu. He is as dishonorable as he is a drug.

I'm deaf. Topender, I'm starting to think there's a reason I'm in this cab today. Yes, sir. You called for it, remember? No, my slender brown friend. Love is a beautiful thing. When you find it, the whole world tastes like daffodil daydream. So you gotta hold on to love.

Tight and never let go. Don't make the same mistakes I did. Got it? Yeah. Or else the whole world tastes like Mama June after hot yoga. What does Ms. Mamajun taste like? Like two hobos fucking in a shoe filled with piss. I can go all day, Depender.

The point is it's bad. Wait, is that from one or two? That's the beginning of the first one. And you have eight days now to enjoy rewatching the first two. I'm recommending that. The first two, one is on Max and one is on Disney Plus. I don't know why they're split up. I think one and two are on.

Disney plus two, but I think Max just also has one, right? Okay. Or something like that? I don't, I don't know. I didn't find it that way. Let's, let me just give you a couple of really fun facts about this now trilogy. One, one was an hour 48, two was an hour 59, and the third one is going to be two hours and seven minutes. So they're getting a little bit longer, presumably because they're getting a little bit better.

I can't prove that because number one on Rotten Tomatoes is at 85%. Number two on Rotten Tomatoes is at 84%. We don't have reviewers yet for the third one. They didn't do it that way for whatever reason. I don't think that's bad news. No, I think it's fine. I think there was no reason to have an early review screening of the third one. It's going to be exactly like the first two, I think.

the um just just for those wondering if you don't if you're not currently sub to max and a lot of people aren't uh it is i just wanted to confirm it is on uh disney plus you can get both on there oh both are on disney plus yeah one and two okay they even have a they have a listing for deadpool and wolverine but it's just a trailer but uh the movie movies are on there um all right confession if for some reason you don't know this this property i just want to quickly say hey um this is really funny, it's very R-rated stuff. Like Deadpool doesn't exist

before like 1990. He was invented to be extremely counterculture for that, for that sort of time and for what was going on in comics and so on. And Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool was actually called

for in the comics in the early 2000s. So like Ryan Reynolds kind of has to do this. Like he's the perfect person. He's the perfect person for this, you will understand. If you haven't seen these, you will understand when you start watching them how Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool is one of the greatest miracles of casting to ever happen in Hollywood. Yeah. And the irony is that in Wolverine Origins, they made him

mute. Yes. Like one of the best, right, one of the most comedic actors and quick-witted characters, they make absolutely mute. It was a horrible, horrible decision by somebody I don't know who to blame there director whoever writer what a dumb thing you actually literally have Ryan Reynolds in this he's there he's in your

movie and you make his lips sewn shut or whatever the hell you did yeah dialogue's everything for that character it's insane to me I can't wait to go see this third one there's an episode of Welcome to Rexham in the latest season of Welcome to Rexum there's an episode that revolves around Ryan Reynolds

getting Rob McElhenney a very, very small role in Deadpool and Wolverine. Oh, really? Oh, cool. It's like, that doesn't have anything to do with Wrexham soccer, right? But they actually, they work it in. The town of Wrexham in Wales

has completely embraced Deadpool as their sort of like mascot. Already had a dragon mascot before this, but, you know, Ryan Reynolds comes along. They've really embraced it. So, like, he's in, It's just bizarre how this character

has been so pervasive. Some reason the dog is losing its mouth. I didn't know if that was dougy or a Oh no, I'm in the shop. Didn't they make a PG-13 version of Deadpool 2? Oh, did they? They probably did. I know that they released the second version.

Because parents were taking their kids and the kids are like, please, I want to see Deadpool. I mean, it was a problem with Deadpool 1. It's always been an issue because people were used to MCU slash some. Sony slash, you know, Fox movies about superheroes being sort of everybody in the family can go. Awesome. And so they weren't doing any homework.

I blame those parents because that's just stupid. Like, look up the rating, find out what the content is. Don't take your kid blindly just because someone's in a suit. Exactly. Yes. So dumb. Well, I just saw, I just saw Marina Baccaran's boobs. There is a great piece of trivia, and it's kind of funny that Nicole's almost recommendal of if got brought up in the same.

recommendal Ryan Reynolds Not just Ryan Reynolds But also The person you don't see In Deadpool 2 Is also the person You don't see in if

If that Okay Yeah I'm talking about I don't I don't know who that is So the person So do you remember the character

The Vanisher in Deadpool 2? Oh confession Confession time I still haven't seen two I need to see two And I'm gonna see it this week I'm seeing two before I go on the 27th, so

You should see both of them. Well, okay, yeah, see two before you... Yeah, I've seen one like three times, so I'm good on one. But Ryan Reynolds put an homage to that cameo from Deadpool 2 into if. Oh.

So the person... Clever. Yes, uh-huh, exactly. The person that constantly gets tripped over, or Keith, not Ralph, Keith. Keith. Damn it, Keith. Yeah.

Yeah, that was actually in my clip that I gave you. Oh, was it really? Oh, that whole scene is in there? The one that we didn't play, excellent. It's like a five-minute thing. It's hard to isolate. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Well, anyway, that's great.

Deadpool, one, two, available now and all the places, Randy said, and also. You should watch them soon because we got a third one. Yeah. I'm going to do a rewatch starting this weekend. Yay. Do we know if Colossus, Colossus comes back in three? do we know? Don't know. I hope so. Don't know and I would like to be surprised.

I have been, yes, I have had a blackout on like trailers and stuff. Yeah. I've been seeing like in YouTube, I've been saying, oh, new Deadpool trailer with this. And then I'm like, nope, I've stopped with that that accidental one that I saw another freaking reveal on. It's like, nope, I am not watching any more of these.

Well, I'm excited to see it with a bunch of tadpoolers where you got a whole thing going. That's awesome. Oh, I'm envious. By the way, Brian, I'm a little deep dive. Did you know that there are like 13 different colors of red suits they have for Deadpool? What is going on?

That's Mark again? No, that was me. I'm sorry. Oh, all right. Don't worry. Are you watching next week's recommendation right now? No, I click the link.

It's just my computer. I'm sorry, Randy. Could you ask that question again? Oh, the different color red suits? Yeah, because apparently in like different conditions in lighting and camera setups, you don't get a consistent red if you just make you just choose one you have to like have all these different reds oh wow no I had no idea

that's kind of cool I'm sure that'll be in a featurette that I'll watch after yeah Deadpool and Wolverine the lands on Blu-ray well that's awesome great way to get ready for that do your homework everybody uh let's move on to mine mine is completely different than anything else anyone's talked about today it's a documentary it's a very serious piece of subject matter I'm not going to get too far into how anyone should feel about it. I just think people should watch it. So here's the clip. Faith is primary for me.

Faith is the first thing that I build my life around. My reaction to January 6th was my stomach churned. I was nauseous. I wanted to throw up. People had Christian flags. They were praying on bullhorns outside the kids. Capitol while beatings were occurring inside the Capitol it was a co-opting of my faith that is supposed to be a faith of peace from a security standpoint it was also devastating we spent 20 years

preparing for another bad day building up intel systems law enforcement capabilities the protective measures and that failure was utterly on display Thank you, heavenly followers. Thank you for allowing the United States for Americans to be born that we're the communist, the globalists, and the traitors within our government. The galvanizing force behind the assault on the U.S. Capitol was a political movement known as Christian nationalism. All right.

You are hearing the voice there of the narrator, Peter Coyote. You probably've heard him a million times with like Ken Burns of documentaries. That guy brings a level of professionalism to, uh, documentary narration that almost nobody can quite match. That guy is really in a class of his own. Love that guy. He also jangles his keys a lot in ET back in the day. Interesting.

Well, he's got his typecast. Yeah, he's been typecast. Anyway, the voice you heard at the beginning of that is a woman named Elizabeth Newman. You may not know her name, but she was deputy chief U.S. Department of something in the Trump administration. So she was actually in the administration, a devout Christian woman. And she's just one of the voices you get to hear in this thing. The movie, I should say right up front, is called Bad Faith.

It is a documentary that is currently on Hulu. And I think maybe, I'm not that sorry, Tubi, not Hulu. Tubi, which means it's free, which means everybody should go get it. It's also, I think, rentable everywhere. When I first heard it was on Tube, I went, well, Tubi not really known for, like, you know, great debuts. Or, you know, it's kind of a junk TV channel. And I like it. I like Tubi a lot.

but it's full of like cheesy 70s stuff and ancient TV shows and this sort of stuff. So it's not really, you know, it wasn't on my radar for like a good quality documentary. And it really is one. Now, I know by recommending this film called Bad Faith that the people I really want to hear this or see this, we're probably not going to anyway, all right? I understand that. I acknowledge that. I am not here to pressure those people.

Your minds are made up already. That's fine. but if you are interested at all in the history of Christian nationalism and what that actually means and what most people who use that term today are saying they are. It isn't like us calling them a name. They say, I'm a Christian nationalist. They say it out loud, all right? They get into what that is defined as, how far back this goes in terms of like some of these ideas where they came from, the architects of this idea, and what it means today in our political climate. it, what it means for Christians who are just trying to live Christ-like lives and don't think

that this stuff should be all intertwined in their politics and as hateful as it is. Like, there's a whole bunch of back and forth. Again, I am not here to convince anyone of anything. I just think this is very educational. And what it did for me was it reminded me that my surfaced reasons for thinking certain people behave the way they do is kind of actually wrong. The reason people in power with money and influence drape themselves in a flag and hold a cross is not the same reason your next door neighbor does that. Their reason is because they buy into it and they've been convinced and now they're in.

They're on the team. But the people in charge, the people with the power, they're doing it because it's a power grab. And it's a power grab that has been decades in the making and is fascinating. from a historical perspective. This is not a documentary. It doesn't even focus on January 6th. That's just kind of the opener about, you know, when things came to a head for this woman and some other people.

It's about 30 years of history. They have tons of archival footage. And it really does lay bare a very straight ahead historical look at what it is and what we're facing. It is not hyperbolic. it is not, uh, what's the word I'm looking for, uh, when something's, sensationalize, it's not sensationalized. They don't get into that. It isn't music to help, uh, you know, advance a, a thing. I mean, it is clearly a thing describing something that some people are going to go, oh, coming after us a game. It's the agenda. Sure. But I'm,

but, but though I'm not talking to them because their minds are made up. I wish they would watch something like this because you would at least have. to look at the where this all came from so you kind of understand your role in it and and i'm not this is not this that's the crazy thing about it this thing is not a anti-religion documentary it is not an anti-faith documentary certainly is not anti-christian if anything they give way more voice to actual christians not the ones that run churches you know they have a bunch of photos that come up of like oh there's just some churches in the 60s where the entire church is just filled with KKK members all wearing the robes and stuff and they get into just kind of the roots

of why we and the world, not just us, okay, and not just Christians, but why religion is often the front for other ideals. And that's co-opted. They co-opt it, but not only co-opted, they use it as a veneer. They're cosplaying, basically. And I don't mean that this is not a negative in the direction of cosplay. It's not what I mean. That's fandom.

This is different. but they hide behind it. You know, there's that old quote. I remember who said it, but if fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in an American flag with a Bible on it or something. And that may sound hyperbolic when you hear that.

But when you see this and you see the building blocks of what the people in power are doing, and by that I mean like evangelical leaders, people who know better, all right, who get up and say really fired up stuff and they know better. That's the perspective I didn't have before. and it really added to, you know, my understanding.

So anyway, I can't recommend it enough. I also know that it's going to be hard. Some of you are going to hear this and go, I don't want anything to do with that or those people or anyone who calls himself a Christian nationalist or any of this stuff. I promise you, this will be good for you and cathartic for you. It may be difficult. I had to pause it three times, I'll admit.

I paused it three times and sat there and went, okay, I don't want to get mad. I don't want to get, you know, whatever. But I just came away with just such a appreciation for the quality of the thing and its ability to go further than just, can you believe what's going on? It's not like that. It's more like, here's some things that have happened. If this is confusing and seems out of nowhere and you don't understand why people behave this way, let's go back and look at the steps. Let's see the moments in history.

Let's talk about why, you know, if somebody, gets up in church and tells a thousand people who they, you know, they all trust him. And it gets up and says, you know, you all need to go out tomorrow with your AR-15s and you need to blow up the town next to us because they're, they're godless or something. They'll do it more than they won't because they trust. There's a whole thing about trust in this and why we trust in people to steer us in the right direction and how that can get twisted and turned and broken. And I found it fascinating. So if you want to see it,

it's available for free at 2B.com. You can run it in other places if you prefer. I watched it on a browser and I had a blocker so I never saw an ad. And can't recommend it. Blocker. I'm just glad the title of the thing is okay. I think about this a lot because a long time ago,

I gave my parents a book. My dad was still alive. I gave my parents a book that I really wanted them to read. And it was a book about the, marriage of American Christianity and the Republican Party. It covered the backlash to the civil rights movement. James Dobson had had a big rise in, you know, in Colorado Springs and all these things. And it was like, I found it very, very interesting is what I'm saying. It was like history of this book. Yeah. But the problem is the title of the book was American fascists by

Chris Hedges. And yeah, no, it's, and you're right. You're right. That can really put people off. That's why I appreciate this name, too. Some people will see this and go, but you're saying all faith is bad. That's right, the name, bad faith. No, no, no. The meaning here is when you do something in bad faith, it means that you're saying,

I could say to Brian, Brian, I think you're awesome, but then behind the scenes, I'm sending him death threats. I'm telling him he's awesome in bad faith, right? It imitates life. I'm sorry, no, go ahead, yeah, please. But you know what I mean?

Like, you're doing something in bad faith, and that's where this thing, squarely lands, people with power, influence over time, not just our generation, but kind of going back forever, they are acting in really bad faith. And it is not about, it is not about religion. You think it is. You kind of think it is. Like, you see it and you go, oh, it's because they're so damn religious. People are so dogmatic. Take one little scripture, turn it into a whole lifestyle, whatever. That's not it. It's not it. It's people who know better and know what they're saying is insightful, not insightful, inciting, angry, opposed to what they should

know. And it's infuriating, but this is presented in a way, and with Peter Coyote's wonderful voice, is presented in a way that is digestible, that is understandable. And look, if there are people right now watching this video, this video archive, or listening to the podcast going, I know the guy would be bunch of moving there and woke again. If you start doing that, I have two words for it, F and off. And second of all, it's not because I don't think you have valid points of view or I don't want to talk to you. That's not it. It's because you are saying on the face of this, this is not for me and there's nothing here for me to see.

And I could not disagree more. So watch it. Then come talk to me. Don't talk to me and then not watch it. There's no point in that conversation. I'm not going to have it with you. But this was really good, and I hope more people watch it. One of the last full episodes of the Phileas Club, Patrick and I kind of got into the history of fascism, right?

And he kept referring to the whole episode as you sometimes have to eat some vegetables and greens, right? Like when you're consuming, whatever you're consuming in media, right? Like that there's stuff that speaks to you and it feels real good and comfortable. And sometimes it's kind of hard to take. And that's the stuff we were talking about on that episode. He kept saying over and over, you have to eat your greens sometimes. Yeah. I have to just, this is, these are, these are definitely, these are definitely vegetables.

And they're not, they're not the kind of vegetables that are being faked into looking like vegetables. They really are vegetables. And I would agree. I like that scenario. And I think you should eat your vegetables, everybody. Have plenty of, look, Deadpool is a really great dessert. Okay. Amazing.

bad faith though you need you need a good healthy dose of some stuff you gotta have all the food groups are presented here and sometimes you need to watch sometimes you need to watch stuff that's actually good for you yeah it's uh it was really something uh these are all up on quicktms dot l i and that means you can quickly find them reference them and move on from them we also mentioned earlier mad god i've forgotten i recommended it here on the show i recommended mad god oh the game mad god no the the the the the the Oh, I'm sorry, the animated, the stop motion. I was trying to remember what the context was that we talked about earlier. Yeah, so you'll probably even find that on there. Really worth seeing if you're into stop motion. Also, if you're into psycho, like, dark weirdness, might be worth seeing it. Cool. All right.

Well, there you go. Anybody got anything they want to promote? Nicole, you got anything going on? You want to mention? My brain is still trying to transition from vacation. Right. So I have nothing. I have nothing.

All right. Well, tell Mark, I hope he doesn't get Jardia or whatever. Oh, my God. Randy, anything going on with you? You want to mention? I'm looking forward to seeing you this weekend on FilmSack for an episode that we've already recorded. We're going to have a nice talk about my brain just dumped. It was a straight to video movies.

My brain just did a reboot. That was amazing. I heard a sound too. So we're talking about straight to video movies on FilmSack this weekend and then Robocop 3 next weekend. I'm very, very excited about that. But more importantly, Scott, you're in, you're supposed to have a happy birthday today. Please have a very happy birthday today. I'm going to mostly because everyone's being so nice.

So thank you for being a part of that. I appreciate it. Bye, Randy. All right. Thus endeth recommendals. And now we leave you with one thing. Oh, no, I already did the follow up. I wanted to tell people about this.

It was the other thing that was up top there. Yeah. Did you know that the happy meal for the month of mental awareness week or sorry for the week of a mental awareness week is now just called the meal? The meal. Is that really? That's really true, huh? Yeah. So I need to go, like if I go through the drive-thru and you say, yes, I'd like to order the meal. The meal. And they'll say, with no, with no inference to my joy or sadness state. Yeah. I mean, I kind of appreciate the idea of this. I don't think I'm going to give McDonald's too much credit for much because they just want to sell happy meals and that's fine. But, you know, we shouldn't have. assume that every happy meal is happy, I guess. Right, right. Well, and, you know, like their extra value meal, uh, isn't. No, it's not. That's the unhappy meal. It always has been. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Or is their super size. So, uh, you know, finally, uh, finally the truth can be told.

The first truthful thing that McDonald's has done in a while. Uh, well, there you go. That's going to do it for today's show. Thank you all for listening for being here, for being a part of it. And if, uh, you want more, you can find it at frogpants.com slash TMS. One more quick reminder. That sale is up now on the new wastelands thing. I just put it in the chat as well, so you guys can link right to it. If you go to frogpants.shop,

it's the first thing up there, and it is 5x-by-5 or 8-by-8-inch versions of these prints, all three available now and for a limited time. If you're a fallout fan, you may want to grab it. TV show or otherwise video game doesn't matter. It's all fan art for those cool things.

All right, that's going to do it for us, Brian, let's get out of here. You got a song we can play and go with? Yeah, this one comes from Russ. Russ Cluitt said, uh, what-oh, Brian and Scott, I've been a listener since week one, and although I've spent the last 13 years enjoying your fine show, I've never

requested a song, but I'm turning 40 on June 25th, turned 40 past tense. So this is a good excuse. Yes, I'm catching up. I'll listen, this is actually a good point, place for me to bring this up. Need some requests for the second half of July. So if you've got a birthday, if you've got anniversary, if you've got the birthday for a friend, you want to turn them on to, or maybe

just want to turn them on, but you want to turn them on to TMS, this is a great way to do it. Request a song, play it for them, and then play them the show and say, hey, look at that. There's a, you know, a song in here for you. Yeah, and you'll even take him if it's not. That's what I think you all sound like. Yeah, of course, that's what I hear as well, but you're not even saying it can't just be a basic, like, are they just like a song? They could do that, right?

It doesn't have to be a event. It can even be that. It's totally true. And, yes, Claire Gack, we talked about this. Chapel Roan has done some very good covers that I wouldn't mind playing, but nobody's requested them. Get in there, you guys. It just takes a couple minutes, but I guess if you don't have time to rate songs and music league, you don't have time to make a request. Anyway, Russ continues.

Over the past 13 years, I've gone from working for myself to getting a proper job to moving out to the Isle of White for some peace and quiet. TMS has been a consistent companion along the world. way. I'd love to hear a cover of or buy one of my favorite bands of all time and Brains too, I believe. Squeeze. Yes, indeed. I saw them live a few years ago and they were awesome. Whether it's a cover by my favorite or a cover of my

favorite track pulling muscles from the shell or something else, I leave it in Brian's capable hands. Thanks for all you do, chaps. TTFN Russ SF drummer everywhere else. Congratulations on the milestone of aging. Something to that effect.

Yes. You could play on a happy birthday. Yeah, we'll give him, you're in here now. Happy birthday. No offense, but you know, you're in there. It's fine. Exactly, yes. By the way, Macia Addict asks, Brian, have you seen that friend of Diamond Club, Ali Gertz released a 9-inch Nail's cover album and Talley adds on? It's good, too.

Why, yes, I kickstarted that thing. Oh, nice. Or Indiegogo, whatever she used to fund it, I supported it and got my rewards and um no uh argument there it is really really good camera what's called it's called um this boy this is a weird tangent right this it is called where is it i'm on her thing they don't nobody's updated her uh her wikipedia yet somebody get in there and do that um i let's see already i'm sorry she was a she was a former editor of mad magazine well she really according to this according to this it gets into

music later in the thing, but it says American comedy musician, writer, YouTuber and former editor of Mad Magazine known for satirical songs based on pop songs and topics. Peeled Back, that's what it's called. Peeled Back is the Mad Magazine, that's crazy. I know, that's awesome. Yeah, covers of

everything. You know, hurt, the hand that feeds, reptile, we're in this together. It's had like a hole, of course, closer. All covered on this brand new release from Allie Gertz. Okay. That has nothing to do with the squeeze cover that I'm about to play. And yes, Russ is correct. They are one of my two or three

favorite bands. They're always top of the list for me. So a cover of pulling muscles from a share at Shell. It's funny because this is one of the songs that doesn't get covered as often as things like black coffee in bed or tempted or another nail for my heart or things like that. But I do have a really good cover of it. This one came out on a tribute album that came out in 2011 called if I if I if I the songs of squeeze revisited and it's a great cover of pulling muscles from the shell by a band called Threads featuring Givie Flynn this is great and it goes out to you Russ

hope you had a great birthday happy birthday pulling muscles from the shell by threads awesome thanks everybody we'll be back tomorrow with Wendy and Thursday things and all that stuff so please come back then we'll see you then Take it down on the canvas and we do it at Y-Kee-Tee. Slate in about to be charging night, the creepy's creepy. Swimming busy at the sky.

I have a promise made the bat. So if my favorite was a ride And everybody wants a hand But free heart Shalling My holiday is complete And I feel as William Tames Names,

Marianne of a dystopie Though you must have to share Do you want to sussure? Drinking from the seas of cold Touthless ladies look away Ah, he married and stopped to shower shelters from the rain You wish you had a motorboat Towards a rins the harbour bar

And when the sun goes out to bed You hook it up behind the car But behind a shower A holiday is complete And I feel like will you tell May Marion The room to torpedoes Who must be

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Just so free My free heart My holiday is complete And I feel like swillian sales May marry on my world putting my muscles for sure I'm putting up for sure and whether

AI prompters are artists and here I think is the biggest test and I heard this the other day on a podcast I can remember where ask them to draw it again draw the same thing over again because when you write a prompt for an AI it's probabilistic

it'll pull in random elements or pseudo random elements from what it's absorbed which is why it's not an art form it can't be reproduced they can't do it again

So it's more than just a simple tool Anyway, that's how I feel about it Take care Scott and Brian I am listening to today's TMS right now And I wanted to weigh in on the AI art conversation I think the perfect analogy is actually having to do with art itself

if you were to commission a piece of art from an artist and describe everything to them that you want in this painting and then they go off and paint it and give it to you, you are still not the artist. The person who painted it is the artist. So if you want to get really pedantic about it, technically, in a way, chat GPT, or whatever AI software someone is using is the artist,

not the person who is giving them the prompt. They are just commissioning the piece of art from the AI. All right. Bye. Hey, this is for TMS. This is Ben from Brian's hat up in Loveland, Colorado. So, high syphilis and bump and uglies. The reason that they are called STIs, this is from episode 26, 27, STIs, because they are infections, which includes pubic lice and crabs.

So those aren't it diseases. That's it. Well, the hobo, both with consent and a condom. Thank you. Bye. This is Gugga Glitch or Gigi Glitch whichever you prefer And it's for the morning stream And your debate of AI art

And really could just probably be summed up in When you copy a famous painting The differences between that painting and you That art is you So using AI to generate it, you're just basically taking from others, as they have already said, that that's what they've done. But your art is in what you do with that. Now, if you just say, I'm done, you definitely are not an artist. But if you take that and create from that, that little 5%, well, that's 5% of you.

putting art in. Anyway, love the show, though. Bye. Hi, guys. This is Nick from Western Mass. Scott, the last time you read something for me, I think it was on Skim. You

misunderstood Western Mass for Western Ma. Sort of a creamy peen type incident. Anyways, I wanted to send a comment quickly here on wasps and hornets. You guys are quickly becoming my go-to for flying insects, varietals that really suck.

Anyways, I yesterday lightly sprained my ankle. This will play into the story in a moment. I made it home after work and decided that I was going to do some work outside. We have a ground hog issue and was going to install some fencing around the building that the ground hogs are in to keep them out. Well, as I was digging, I made about two shovelfuls of dirt, felt very accomplished, looked down, and was immediately swarmed by ground wasps. The same ankle that I twisted earlier in the day was stung two or three times. I can't really tell which. So my night consisted of staying inside.

Anyways, thanks, guys. And keep up the fantastic work I fully expect more updates on flying. insects. Bye. Hey, Yins guys. Hey, this is for the show that aired the third. That's today. There was

somebody that just called in or wrote in from Philly. And Brian said whatever Yins like as far as Philly cheesesticks or something like that, just wanted to make a correction. Yins is

Pittsburgh, the other side of the state. Philly, I believe they say use. And so let me give you the breakdown. This is how I look at Pennsylvania. I'm originally from Pittsburgh. I live in New Hampshire now, but Pennsylvania is Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the West, and Alabama in between. Love the show, guys. Take care.

See ya. This show is part of the Frog Band Network. Yes, get more at frogpants.com. These pretzels are making me thirsty.