The Morning Stream - TMS 2684: Flipping Heck

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, August 1st, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. It's Brian. Hi, Scott. Hi. Welcome to the new month, Brian. Let's hope this month. Let's hope this month doesn't rip past us too fast or give us COVID, you know. Oh, gosh. Well, I'm safe. Yeah. You're good for a while, I think. I'm good for a while. I think I don't know how the, I don't know how the different strains do and variants do as far as sneaking past. If you've got immunity to one, if you can get another. But I feel pretty good right now. That's good. Give us a number. Give us a percentage. Oh, I'm at 96, 97%. I'm pretty close to, pretty close to top of my form. That's awesome. That's great. One week ago, testing positive for the first time.

Okay. So about a week of, well, about just shy of a week of positivity. Not the first time I had COVID, but the first time in this, in the second bout of having COVID that I tested and tested positive. Your first one was pretty, pretty light. It was really light. It was so light that I did. didn't know I had it and ended up probably giving it to a bunch of people at the Disney 23 conference in Anaheim that in September Labor Day weekend 2021 or post-Labor Day weekend 2021.

And then it's like I got home and I'm like, oh, now it's hitting me. Oh, my God. Yeah. And this one decided, hey, Brian, I'm back. This one decided to be, you know, it, it, um, it. It ramped up quickly and dissipated quickly, but those two or three days right in the middle were miserable. There were two days in there that was just like horrendous. Like the worst you've felt after getting, I guess not you, but people you know who've gotten really sick after a COVID shot felt like a concentrated form of that for two days.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I was, I was curious about that, too, because you tend to have some reaction. I tend to get a reaction during COVID shots, some boosters, yeah. And I never do, and I don't know what it means. I have no idea what it means that I don't have any reaction to it. You know, I think it just is some people do and some people don't. I think there's, it doesn't, yeah, I don't know what it means.

If it means anything, it just means, you know, whatever, whatever it triggers in some people doesn't trigger it in you. It means we all have diverse biology. And nobody's the same, you know? Right, right. So speaking of biology and, you know, you got to eat and stuff, this is a nice swing back to the FDA thing. I'm trying to create here. Well done. Nice segue.

Nice lead in there. Thank you. We were talking a few days ago about how the FDA, we weren't sure if the FDA had like an enforcement arm. Like, are they like the DEA? Are they like the, what's the one with rifles or ATF? ATF. Like, are they like that? Or they have like a force, you know, where it's not just whatever.

Can they break in, like bust your door down and say, uh, you're, you're keeping, uh, raw meat next to your fruits and vegetables in your fridge, knock it off. Yeah. Your, your leafy lettuce has a trace of list, uh, listeria. We're taking you out. Right. Uh, turns out they kind of do. So we got this thing from Dave in Boston. It was an email when I say it's a thing.

We got an email. It's called, uh, email. Uh, he says, uh, uh, he says, says this. Hey, Scott, on the show the other day, you mentioned that your neighbor worked for the FDA during, uh, doing crime investigations, but you corrected yourself and said he worked for the DEA. And I was correct about that. It was DEA. Um, but he went on to say, I wanted to let you know that the FDA does actually have a criminal investigation department called the office of criminal investigation or the OCI. That sounds like science fiction evil corporation. The OCI. Totally does. Yeah. Doesn't it? Maybe it's just because we just watched Robocop with the OCP, but, uh, oh, right. That's probably why. Yeah. I didn't think of that. In the pharmaceutical industry, we call them FDA with guns. They train just like the FBI and worked closely with the FBI and U.S. Marshals. Hen house, whorehouse.

I don't care. Every dog house, hen house, chicken house. He had a lot of houses that he talked about. He had a few houses. And I remember none of them. Anyway. And I did a parody song of Johnny Cash's. I've been everywhere listing all of the houses that I've been everywhere listing all of the houses

that I could come up with, including crowded house, chapter house. Our house is a very, very, very, very fine house, all that. Sure, yeah, all that. Let's see, FDA is not, or sorry, does many criminal investigations. For example, they're probably involved with the current investigation of the company that distributes the Diamond Shrums product. Shrooms, I guess, that's shrooms. Probably shrooms. I bet it's shrooms. Oh, Diamond Shrooms, yes. They decide to spell it stupid, and so we have to guess.

Yeah, exactly. That are in, that is in the news lately. Now, I haven't heard this. This was news to me. I haven't heard this at all, yeah. Several people have become ill, and there have been deaths associated with these food products. They make chocolate bars, ice cream, and other edibles that contain a synthetic psilocybin, which is psychedelic mushrooms, or which is in psychedelic mushrooms. FDA even has a most wanted list. Take a look. He says, so I want to see this.

He says some of the most non-criminal people you've ever seen. I can't wait to see. I'll pull it up here for the chat. So look at these people. just kind of normal looking. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see if we can get some info on this lady.

I know. I'd like to know, yeah, why, what did this lady do? This first lady, New Ritsa. Norezegroian? Russian or something. Yeah. She did. Let's see, I'm hitting more.

From the house Gregorian. Adulteration of the pharmaceuticals. Okay, let's see. Something about members of doctored patient files to make it falsely pure the drugs were necessary. Okay. So it's one of these opioid doctor people that are given too much out. Let's see, how about this one?

Wanted Bo Jiang. Bo Jiang, also known as Bob Jiang, born in 78 in Shangdong, China from 2008 to September 2009 in the Central District of California and elsewhere. Let's see. Oh, this guy purchased insulin vials. Yeah. This guy purchased insulin vials, graphics for the lot numbers and expiration. dates along with a labeling machine and mislabel the vials of insulin as human growth hormone. Oh, shit.

And they're all on the run. None of these are people they've caught. They're just out there somewhere. So if you see these people, make sure to contact your local FDA crime busting unit, otherwise known as the OCI, and let them know. Yeah, this guy, Selo Jamein, between August 2006 and April 2007, Sela Jamein and co-conspirator Alpha Yaya Jolla. and Elon Musk named these people were principles of the Fatala Corporation based in New York, which imported approximately 990,000 tubes

of counterfeit Colgate toothpaste into the U.S. from China. They knew the imported toothpaste was not a genuine Colgate product and intended to sell it with counterfeit Colgate marks to confuse and deceive customers. Most of the toothpaste contained either no fluoride or significantly less fluoride

than significantly less yar than, which is found in genuine Colgate toothpaste. Some of the toothpaste, in addition, contained harmful substances such as bacillus bacteria and diethylene glycol, which is toxic to humans. Yeah, geez. Who knew that there was a big ring of toothpaste criminals? I know, man. Toothpaste.

Jeez. Humans are hard at scale. I'll say it again. We've got to deal with weird shit. Wait, I could get a, I could get 990,000 counterfeit Colgate. Toothpaste, okay, let's do that. Hell of a deal, yeah. Sell them for $3 here.

I will make dozens. We do. We're a Colgate house, so I wonder, I don't know, I don't think any of ours are clandestine, but they might be. I don't know. Probably not. I think you'd probably just, what, they'd taste funny, probably? Yeah, probably, yeah.

Or the tubes aren't as good or something. I don't know. I don't know how you notice that, wait a minute, this doesn't have as much fluoride. This has significantly less fluoride than a lot. used to. Yeah. I'll bet the history of this really ramps up around the time that we had that Tylenol thing when we were kids. Yeah, right. Sure. Don't you think? Like, FDA was probably like, oh, shit, we got a higher bunch of cops. This is bad. Yep. Yeah. Well, anyway, thanks, Dave from Boston. You must be in the pharmaceutical business. And if you are, congratulations, and

welcome to the crowd. We got you, we got Tolbert, who knows a lot about pharmaceuticals. We got a lot of smart people out there. And maybe Jerry will pipe in today about COVID and its follow-up infection thing, like whether or not trees you can certainly shine in on yeah yeah I'd be very curious I got a quick

counterfeit coal gate counterfeit coal gate's an amazing title what do they call that scandal cold gate gate Colgate gate oh yeah dude what are you going to do there you can't do the gate that's too weird no no it's too it just doesn't work

Colgate gate could you do yeah I don't know how you were all out of them we only have gate we add gate to everything it's stupid yeah thanks a lot of Nixon you dick literally a dick had to had to do your crap at the Watergate yeah thanks a lot buddy

good job let's talk about the the dog lady I talked about maybe a week or two ago remind me the dog lady so dog lady's the one she's half dog right she's half dog she's like the

shaggy DA but lady no that's not true this is the one that comes when she walks her dogs one's off leash and one is on leash and they let him come right up to my porch and like sniff at the door and piss off the cat and and then it's just weird like why do you let your even the leashed one why are you letting it go all the way up to my door it's just weird right that's right yep well yesterday kim and i are out doing a walk uh beautiful day except for the

smoke sick of the smoke canada could you please put out your fires Canada please and now we've got we've actually got a couple local fires here in uh in the Denver metro area not even in the mountains well one of them is in the mountains but the other one is like in the foothills and Yeah. Oh, it sucks. We just got so much smoke. We can't, I can't go outside. Do you have any, uh, 98 degrees, but do you have any mandatory, uh, uh, what do you call it? Evacuations. We've had a couple, uh, not for us, obviously, but, um, uh, but, but that area in Littleton, they had some evacuations yesterday, yeah. But nothing, it didn't get to them, I hope. No, didn't get to, didn't get to the homes, uh, didn't seem to get to the homes, so. Um, well, this, that was like our Salt Lake one that we had that was up in the same.

thing kind of like foothills above the city and they had to evacuate a ton of stuff around there but they ended up containing it well anyway so this lady it's been an annoyance but not anything horrible it's just like well if i see her maybe i'll talk to her sure no big deal so kim and i are out walking yesterday and coming past us are a woman a kid and then two dogs and she says hi and we go hi we don't I don't know who it is I'm just kind of walking you said a woman so you didn't I didn't know if you meant the woman well it turns out it turns out it is her but I didn't know it's the woman yeah I just didn't know her I don't know her by her face because usually her dogs are just up at the porch and I don't know who's walking them because

I've never really seen her so Kim recognizes her and goes oh hey and and then the lady goes oh hi and then they start it's just very friendly like oh neighbors and I knew her kid Parker I used to do scout stuff and he was one of the kids in there cool cool kid uh much cooler than his parents anyway much cooler than his mom so they're there and and she says um oh i saw you guys and your your grandbabies and this and that you're so so cute and this and it was just such a pleasant interaction that my brain kind of froze up because i was like this is your chance this is when you were supposed to tell her this is a problem when you bring the dogs on the porch and instead i'm going i can't do this now everybody's smiling

everybody's happy. I can't do this now. And so I couldn't do it. I couldn't bring myself to go. By the way, could you please stop? I couldn't do it. It just didn't feel right. Yeah.

I don't know when I'm going to say it or if I even need to say it. Maybe at this point you don't need to say it. I mean, I guess if it becomes more of a problem, then, then, you know, you can, I don't know, you've got your, uh, does it come, it shows up on your doorbell or your, whatever. Yeah, the ring bell thing or whatever it is. I don't know. Ours is a wise, but same thing. Your ring, your wise, uh, wise doorbell. Yeah. Yeah. And if, like, like problem.

It's less than the problem than the kid climbing the tree or cutting across your lawn on his bike. Yes. Yes. And in that case, I don't have any problem telling them to knock it off. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the kids. Like, dude. Like, scare him a little bit, you know. Yeah, my line. Yeah. But this lady was just so affable and nice and her daughter was really sweet. And their dogs, I got down like petting the dog that's the problem. Like, I'm like, oh, you're so cute and everything. And, of course, one is off leash, one isn't. And we have HOA rules in this area where you can't.

You're not supposed to have your dog off leash, period. I just can't be the Karen that goes, you know, you could, I can't do it. I just can't do it. Then you don't need to be. Yeah, then you don't need to be. All right. Yeah. I feel good about my choice then.

Yeah. And, you know, maybe you guys will become friends and to the point where you can say, you know, first time I interacted with you. well, the first time I had any sort of situation with you is because of your dog, but I'm so glad we became friends and don't have to bring any of that up. That's great, because then you kind of bring it up. Exactly, that's good.

You kind of bring it up, yeah, yeah. So we're at like a barbecue. It's super chill because now we're all friendly and then I go, you know what's funny. Some months ago, this and that and the other. I'm trying to think of a way that where it doesn't become potentially an awkward situation.

So maybe you don't even bring it up then. Yeah, I don't even think you've mentioned you'd have to be really close to the point the kind of friendships where you have no problem giving each other crap yeah yeah there you go i don't know how it says it very well you could have said something like oh you don't run into any problems having your dog uh off leash and then and then it's not like you're chastising it's like you're crotting like a little bit of a little back door into that's what sometimes you pee's where i don't want to pee no that's some That's some windy, windy level, uh, redirection.

I like that. Yeah. She'd be proud of that. Well done. Mental beard. Could you now recommend a book? Yeah. Could you do that?

And could you, uh, tell us why your name is mental beard? I really like to understand that one. Oh, mental beard. Oh, mental beard. Mantle beard. Mantle beard. Mantle beard. Mantlebeard.

Mandlebaum. I just saw that episode last night. Too funny. Of course you did. I did. Uh, Jeff Bridgett. sorry, Lloyd Bridges in the back of a car going mandelbaum, mandelbaum, it's amazing. All right, so there's that.

Let's get to some news because we need to inform as well as entertained today. Where the hell's that? There it is. I found it. Today's news is brought to you by. Another tadpooler, Nerd Steve, also likes to stream games on Twitch. You should add him to your follow list. head over to twitch.tv slash nerd steve and nerd steve uh the first e in the word nerd is a three

spell it with a three not with an e yeah but the other two ees are ees yeah like the video game fear three they put a they put a three in there for the e so it's looked like it was spelled for threier yeah threeer um all right we talked about oysters yesterday and how i don't like them and you love them yes and i love them yeah and i think that's great and a lot of people more more Horse radish and, and, uh, mm, cocktail sauce and whatever. Yeah, who I do like horseradish and cocktail sauce. Like all the things you put in there to make them taste less like a sea buggler. Yeah.

What is what it's called? Yeah, I could put that on almost anything. And I would, but I don't want to put it on a sea bugger. Mm-mm. Well, anyway, a monster oyster weighing over five pounds was harvested off of the coast. It was a big ass oyster. Yeah. Big monster oyster.

the boss of a seafood delicacy business has spoken of his shock after harvesting a monster as his quote is monster oyster as big as a newborn baby that's a that's probably a comparison that we don't want no i don't think it's just gross man because i do think of like a little slimy baby just out of the womb and it's like okay big slimy oyster maybe you know maybe say it's about the size of a black and decker toaster oven i like that i like that yeah yeah more like an appliance size. So that's five pounds of oyster, not counting the shell. The shell would be for something this size would be. Oh, way, way heavier, like 25 pounds or something, right? Yeah, at least. Yeah. Imagine lugging that thing around. Geez. Well, Tom Howard, Hayward,

sorry. Todd Howard is the president of Bethesda Entertainment. I may, there's no why in here. I would say it's possible this is pronounced Howard or, or Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard. Howard? H-A-W-A-R-D. Chat, you guys suss it out and let us know what you think. Yeah, let us know. Reach out to him, find out. Yeah, reach out.

It's Tom Howard said he was fascinated after his company retrieved a huge mollusk, weighing 2.5 kilograms, that's 5.5 pounds, along the coast of Merrissey, Mercy, Island, Essex. So this is out near the Bacon Lady's place. Mercy, yeah. Hayward, Howard, whatever it is, age 43, the Bacon Lady, you know, Zoe brings the bacon. Yeah,

so I know, yeah. Estimates the 12-inch long, five inches wide oyster. You could print this. We learned. I could.

I totally could. Yeah, easily. Yeah. Yeah. I can 3D print this oyster. Absolutely, you could. Let's see.

It's 20 years old. Geez. Which makes it considered rare as they usually live around six years in harvested waters. 20-year-old oyster. Wow. That's like living to,

I don't know, it's like a human being 120 or something. something. I don't know how this works. Folks, this isn't Mersey, like, um, like Ferry Cross the Mersey, M-E-R-S-E-Y. This is, it might be still pronounced that way, but it's, um, M-E-R-S-E-A island in Essex. Like Mercy. Is it mercy or Mersey? I know the, the, because thanks to, um, was it Jerry and the Pacemakers? Thanks to them, I know it's Mersey if it's M-E-R-S-E-Y.

And where's that at? Mary, Cross the Mersey. Liverpool. Okay, so both English things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still an English thing, yeah. All right. This thing is 1.5 inches or 4 centimeters

short of the largest order or Easter ever recorded. So it almost got the Guinness Book of World Records. Not quite, though. Just shy of it by an inch and a half. That was discovered in Denmark at 13.97 inches long. Let's see. Hayward of Richard Howard's. I hate his name because,

now I don't know. Richard, of oysters, of his oysters, said my first thought was flipping heck, he says. We're working with oysters all the time, and we see thousands upon thousands a day. The guy said flipping heck. Flipping heck. Flipping heck.

Are we sure he's not from Sandy, Utah? Or North Dakota. Flipping heck. Good gosh, man. Tim Watson, in all caps, says, I have lived in Exus, or Essex, Exx, Exus. I've lived in Excess my whole life. I've lived in Essex, and it is Mersey.

He's confirming that it is pronounced Mersey. So they say Mersey, even though it's not the same Mersey as the other Mersey. Or is it spelled different in the song? It is spelled differently than the song than the river and Liverpool. Well, why don't you guys just make things complicated, Europe? Oh, Tim is TRPW. Okay, now it makes a lot of sense. Oh, yeah, because it's a different name in the chat.

I miss these, the actual, you know, the usernames that I'm used to. Some of them are the same, but, yeah, some of you change when you're on here versus Twitch. Hey, Claire, do you need to file a cease and desist on TRPW for using all caps in a chat room post? She needs to finish her patent on that first. She hasn't submitted all the proper paperwork. Oh, you need to finish the paperwork, yeah. Yeah. By the way, I loved everybody's impromptu art thing yesterday with your fridge thing.

That was amazing. Yeah, it was really good. Are we going to do one? one today? Yeah, we should do one today. Yeah, I think, you know, it'll probably end up evolving to the point where that channel is just constantly getting the prompt and then people are drawing it. Yeah. But I will say I appreciate way, there was way less AI art since we clarified. Yeah. We were like, you know, this isn't for, this is for you and a pencil or a pen. This isn't for our computers. You know, I can, you know, you can come up with, you can come up with stuff on your own. Yeah, plus it's more fun. I want to see what your interpretations are. And some of them are weird as hell. You guys are weird, and I love it. Let your freak flag fly in there. All right. Anyway, let's get to this point.

Big oyster. Big oyster, everybody. He said, but to see it like that, it was fascinating. You could see the growth lines on it, just like a tree. It's very intriguing, unquote. Nice. Did they give it to somebody who just went? It just worked it down.

Oh, man, the link is dead. I wanted to see a picture. The link is a picture. 404. Oh, no, there, it came up the second time. The Republican Herald. Oh, no, it says it can't be found. 404. What the frick? Oh, I really wanted to see it. If you hover over it and don't click it, then you can see the shell at least. Oh, yeah, look at that. Okay, that's better than nothing. Something happened to their page, but let's see. I'll put this up for you guys to see it. This is the shell. It's longer than I expected. Yeah. I was expecting a more circular, uh, I guess I'm right. Exactly. I guess it makes sense. So, like, more traditional oyster dimensions. You imagine horking that down, just opening that up. Put a little, uh, uh, horse radish in there and just hork that. No, I can't because I feel like, uh, that would just be a problem.

There would be a problem, like a choking hazard. Something to like, even if you got it down, let's say you cut it up and ate it. Something, 20 years, dude, something's up with that thing. You don't want to eat that. I mean, it's been, it's not like it's been rotting at the bottom of the, ocean it's been alive this whole time that's true i just don't trust it because it's like you know what to be like okay here we go a regular it would be very tasty it just be like big and i don't know nasty and rubbery right and bland yeah yeah and the edge the further it gets from the origin of

how it grows the more and this nasty edges and stuff honestly it's like would you rather kiss a supermodel on the lips or a 95 year old lady on the lips That's the comparison I'm going to go with. That's the comparison. Okay. That's where I'm going with that. All right. In important political news, this is really important.

Ohio Supreme Court, are you guys bracing yourselves? They say boneless chicken wings can have bones in them. What? This is allowed now? No, come on now. That's what they're saying. Where's your stance on this before we get even get into it? I think it's bullshit.

If you tell me something, Does not contain, speaking of choking hazards, if you tell me something does not, in its very name, is not a choking hazard, and it is a choking hazard, then I'm going to fight you. I'm going to fight you. I tend to agree with Brian.

I would like to recess the jury. If it's called a boneless chicken wing, it's like, you know, uh, listen, oops all berries better not contain any Captain Crunch. Oh, good point. Yeah, the little brown thing's better not be in there.

it's right there in the name. Yeah. Lucky Charms also shouldn't be all all marshmallows, even though I've seen that. That was a mistake. And you can't tell me in court that that's normal.

It's not normal. That's right. No, it's not normal. Oh, these Supreme Courts are out of control. It says here, just because you order chicken, boneless chicken wings at a restaurant does not mean you shouldn't expect

to find some bones, according to the Ohio Supreme Court in a four to three ruling on Thursday. Ooh, a tight race. Just barely won the ruling. In a divided decision, Republicans and the, Ohio Supreme Court ruled that bones are a natural part of a chicken, so consumers

shouldn't, should be on guard for them, even in boneless wings. Here's a quote, there is no breach of a duty when the consumer could have reasonably expected and guarded against the presence of the injurious substances in the food, referring to the bones. This is, uh, this is what's amazing to me is that this still, in this article, comes down to a Republicans versus Democrats, the four to three ruling, the Republican, said that bones are a natural part of chicken, so you should expect them in your

boneless wings. And then the Democrats are like, no, that reasoning is absurd. No, dude, our divisions reach all the way into our food choices. It right into our chicken. My gosh. I know. It's pretty crazy. That was, by the way, Republican Justice Joe Dieters,

he wrote for the majority. The Democrats on the court called it reasoning absurd, was their word. They contended that a jury not appeals court judges should decide whether customers should expect to be bone, find bones in their boneless wings. So very contentious, this issue. Yeah, no kidding.

Is, what's the, what's the big chicken company? It takes two hands to handle our chicken or something like that. What's the, it's like a, not a restaurant, but like a. No, like a chicken producer, and I can't think of the, oh, Tyson, that's it. I should have just looked at the, should have just looked at the chat room like five minutes ago. Tyson's, they're not in Ohio, though. right? You're looking for connections to big chicken here, aren't you?

I am. I'm looking, exactly. I want to know which chicken company has their hands in the Ohio Supreme Court's pockets. Oh, man. Breaking it wide open here on TMS today. That's right, exactly. Look, if I go to a place and they have a thing that says sugar less or bone less. Well, sugar free is a good example.

Right. If something is sugar free, better not contain sugar, right? Sugar less. Okay, you can contain a small amount of sugar. So maybe that's the trick. Call it bone-free. How about that? Oh, you know what? That actually might be the, that could be the, your honor, I implore you. They're not bone-free wings. They're bone-less wings. See, I feel like they got a language problem here. I have no further questions, Your Honor. Which is like, it feels like 80% of all conflicts come down to how we say it, you know?

Yeah, it really is. Yeah, exactly. English is weird. bone less bone less wings I was less bones I don't know if that's what they actually argued but I suppose you could Here's a fun one This is not the sort of thing you'd

You'd want to find Well maybe you would Okay A woman calls police after mistaking a Realistic sex doll for a body Oh A Taranaka woman I don't know where Taranaka is

Is this in Taranaki Taranaki It's New Zealand, it looks like. Yeah, it looks like New Zealand. The article's from New Zealand anyway. I think so. She called police after discovering what she thought was a headless body on a beach.

It turned out to be a very realistic sex doll, says the article. Probably not in the tone I just gave it. Oh, geez. Well, sometimes holding the knees to head. Oh, man. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, man. I mean, we don't know where the head is.

Whatever Braygo Bright, whatever. What'd she say? I didn't miss it. You know, like a whole bunch of ux and yucks and Brian and... Oh, yeah. They didn't like that one at all in there. It's in the article. They found a headless sex doll out of beach.

What are we supposed to went far from that? What's the deal? What's the deal? Well, anyway, Alice Cowdery was walking her dog Sadie on Taupay Beach or Taute. Tupe? Tapois? Okay. South of New Plymouth.

That sounds like some British shit right there. On Tuesday when she was... Yeah. And my dad had an old Plymouth, and that's true. We used to have one. It was like this ancient car he wanted to fix up for the longest time, and it just sat on our backyard and got rusty. Never did anything with it.

It's a good thing I'm not into cars because I'd probably do the same thing. Yeah, probably. Good. You don't need to collect any of that stuff. No. It's just... pain in the ass. Anyway, this was on Tuesday. She was already feeling on edge that morning after coming across two dead goats on the beach. Barry the headline.

Okay. Can't wait until you click the link and look at the photo. Yeah, well, we can show this, right? It's not going to be like, uh, oh yeah. There's nothing. There's nothing. It looks like the head's buried. It does like an ostrich. Yeah. There it is for you, chat. Let's see. She goes, so she saw these goats right uh she says i sort of yeah she says i sort of been thinking about how old uh that was and how it made me feel a little and easy i had when i first got out of the car been thinking about bodies which is totally bizarre uh cadry noticed sadie this is the dog sniffing around a form on the beach she walked closer to see what it was and uh i just sort of froze

she says i felt sick sick sick um i could see it was definitely the shape of a torso face down a lot of looks face up to me whatever so there's another photo that is uh i think so i think they oh this other one's great dude the other one's even better yeah i wish that was a i wish that was a closer up photo but maybe they can't do a closer up photo i'm i'm gonna so they so they flipped her over that's why she's got all that sand on her i mean i guess it since it's not a real crime scene you can flip it over it's fine but that's funny right there i mean this is funny funny because we know what it is. It'd be horrible as a person. It was really horrible if it was a actual human being. Yeah, a real person. We wouldn't be laughing, of course.

No, no. She said, I could see it had fingernails and the toes were very realistic. So I looked, so it looked like a human figure. The dog did not seem overly concerned, but Cowdery was freaking out, realizing it had no head. She ran down the beach to get reception and dialed 1-1-1. Oh, interesting. How do you guys not screw that up constantly and have kids type it? I know. Exactly. That's why we have to do the 911 and not the like some of you have the 999 right yeah yeah i think england i think so why why yeah i have always had questions about this because that's the first thing when you're a kid especially if you're going to play mary how little lamb on your touchtone phone i guess maybe that's

the deal is you don't have touchtone phones anymore but you'd go yeah exactly but oh 911 one one is non-emergency well why would she use it then says the wraith i don't understand I guess that actually is pretty good. Like, who do you call? Who are you going to call? If it's not an emergency, but you want to get the police, you don't want to have to go and look up the phone number for the police. It's like, oh, non-emergency, 1-1-1.

But having them be three of the same numbers in a row, I've had enough experience with my own children growing up where they would have accidentally done that 100. In fact, I think they've even done the 911 by accident when they were real little. But do you actually have a, still have a touch-tone phone or a physical phone in your house? No, but when they were little, we did. Yeah. So, like, when Tay and Carter were baby, you know, young enough to be stupid like that, we definitely did.

And I think one of them called 911 once, and it was, we still don't know what happened there. Just one of them dialed it. Oh, geez. Okay, Claire says it is. Actually, Claire confirms that 111 is the emergency number in New Zealand. Yeah. So the wraith, where are you from, the wraith? He does not work at the call center in New Zealand.

So wait, 1-1-1 is non-emergency in the UK and Ireland, but what does that mean, though? So, like, if I have an emergency, fine, I call 9-99 or whatever. Yeah, like, let's say you've been in a, you're in a car accident, a non-injury car accident. You need to call the police, but it's not an emergency. You don't need an ambulance there right away. Oh, we don't have a, we have just the one number, right? I was going to say, we need an equivalent of that. Yeah, what are we, maybe we do and I just don't know it.

I don't want to say for sure. Somebody know anything about the states if we have anything other than 911? You do a 3-1-1 in Nevada, so maybe it's by state, the Jen says. I trust her. She teaches kids. She's a teacher. They say, hello, Mrs. the Jen. Can I write on the board of the gen?

Everybody's saying 3-1-1. That's cool. Is it different stages? So, like, non-emergency is 3-1. Emergency is 9-1-1. But then, like, well, this is kind of emergency, 6-1-1. you do a little right meet me in the middle yeah oh this is well

I cut myself with a knife 7-1-1 yeah yeah I love that all right I want to try it yeah 411 is information what do you're not gonna call 311 are you yeah it's not emergency I'm gonna give it a shot see what happens here I don't know if it's gonna work though through the thing I have to use I just want to see if this works

well 911 works 3-1-1 doesn't maybe four what's info for Give me the 4-1-1-1. Give me the 4-1-1 on that. Let me try that one. Yeah, nothing but 9-1-1 shows up for me. So I don't know if, and this is- What do you mean shows up? Like, you mean on your, like, dialing your phone? Well, I'm on Google Voice, and so it only recognizes 911 as a dial-able.

Everything else just grays out. If I do it on my phone, phone, let's just see what happens. This is fun. I enjoy screwing around with the world. All right. 4-1-1. Let's try that. Okay. All right, we'll go speaker here.

The service you are calling is not available from this location. Okay, so we don't have that. How about 311? Let's try that one out. Thank you for calling the Salt Lake County Government Center. We are located at 2001 South State Street in Salt Lake City. Normal business hours are Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. This is an automated attendance system designed to work with Touchtone phones.

If you know your party's extension, you can enter it now for the county mayor's Okay, so it's just like a general county thing for us. That's weird. All right. I guess I don't know how this stuff works. There's probably a whole series of these, and I just don't know what they are. Yeah, 988. I'd heard of that one, the suicide line for 988.

I have heard of that. I don't know if it's the same here, though. But anyway, now you guys know where the Salt Lake County office is and you can go there. You have the address? You're ready to go. Get in there. Ooh, what does 420 do? Let's see if we get a little blaze up thing.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'd be curious to know, too, actually. Your call cannot be completed as style. You're too stone. Put your weed away. Be great a thought answered. Your call can't be completed, bro. Hey, man.

Hey, man, you can't call this number, man. Yeah, I don't know what they are. When people ask me, Scott, they say, what do you do? I do a couple podcasts. I do one that's a, you know, a music show called Coverville, and I do another one, Soundography, and a movie one called Film Sack. And then, oh, we do this morning show called TMS, which is a lot like, like, if you listen to regular morning radio, but without all of the, like, crazy phone calls and...

You can't say that anymore. You can't say that anymore. Well, well, done. I'm done. I can't say, yeah, I'd have to come up with a new spiel. I mean, we'd have to, I think for us to truly fit in there, we'd have to be prank calling, and we don't really do that. Yeah, no, exactly.

I'm kidding. We're still good. Prank collars. We're talking about making sex dolls on the beach. We're good. Yeah, we're fine. We're fine. Ah, she was face down.

Her head was missing. I called the non-emergency number. All right, here's one for you. Final story of the day. Customers, this irritates me. Customers who save on electric bills. So let's say you're just being frugal or you got some panels or whatever you're doing. They may be forced to pay utility company for lost profits in Louisiana.

oh really oh the south can you guys get anything right down there uh here's how it went louisiana's mayor uh mayor electric utilities is that may oh major i'm reading mayor major major major that's major mayor they're still pushing state regulators to allow them to charge customers for the cost of a new statewide energy efficiency program and for the electricity customers will no longer need because of that program, meaning, you know, you saved it, but you normally would have paid for it. So pay us for it. It's like, yeah, off. Exactly.

That is so freaking lame. Lame. Yeah, absolutely. Large group included Louisiana Public Service Commission staff, utility company executives, consumer advocates, and other energy experts met Wednesday to evaluate bids from companies that want to oversee Louisiana's new energy efficiency program. The LPSC and their new energy efficiency program will require certain statewide energy savings targets. Hitting those targets would help the administrator to implement things

like appliance upgrades for large commercial buildings or small efforts like low-income customers insulating their homes. While the idea might seem like a straightforward solution to cut back on waste, it does. Seems all right on the surface. Utility company executives aren't very happy with it. In general, the utility companies earn more profit when homes and businesses waste electricity. Less waste leads to lower electric bills, which could mean lower profits for the utilities. You know, I'd like to point out the problem word here. profits is the problem right right i don't think electricity should be tied to profiting it should be tied to cost efficient management that's it that's it right right it's electricity it's like air

and water give me a break it shouldn't be profit based i hate that exactly yes and don't call me a freaking communist whoever out there is thinking about emailing me right now i'm telling you don't have to make a profit on every damn thing. You don't. Anyway, energy or entergy is the name of it. First time you mail her. These guys are called Entergy.

I hate that name. Entergy. Entergy, Louisiana, and Cleco. Cleco? Cleco. Cleco. Yeah. They vehemently opposed the idea and successfully delayed its adoption for years. A consultant,

the commission hired to write the basic guidelines for the program spent 13 years and over a half a million dollars trying to appease the utility companies with agreeable rules. F, ride up a tree. All right? Not profitable enough. F off. Oh, I wish it was Calico. That'd be cool. Bring back the great, yeah. Oh, I missed the Calico vision. Do you have one of those growing up? I had a friend, John McEchran, had a Calico vision in his trailer with all of his stinky ferrets. And I'd go over there. We'd play, we'd play, uh, we'd play, uh, he had Mr. Doe. Yeah, Mr. Doe was great. Yeah, had all those. Uh, Mr. Doe is very, um, what would you compare it to?

Dig, Doug kind of? It was very dig, dug, yeah. It was absolutely like a dig dug dug like. Dig, dug like. Dig dug, uh, adjacent. Dig dug, uh, adjacent. There you go, chat. There's my flip-off gift. Um, I, uh, yeah, I'd be mad about this. I don't think people should take it. I think you should say, you should say, yeah, we need to save energy and profits aren't a part of this equation. F off.

Scott's not gonna take it. That's right. And I feel that way about, there are a few things I think should not be profit-based industries. The healthcare system, energy, water,

and another one that I can't think of. I can't think of another one. I'm sure there's another one. Those are a pretty good set. That's a pretty good set. set of industries to not be profit based. Yeah, just don't even make them industries. And I'm not saying that

I mean, there's always this argument, and I understand the argument. You can have the government run it and run it poorly, or you can have a company run it. The internet's a good one, folks. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a great example. Except it's got lots of profit centers around it, though, right? Because nobody just gets the internet.

You have to pay to get the internet. Right. And so that also should be one that is maybe a little less profit centered. But I I'm just saying, like, there's plenty of other opportunities out there. Lots. We don't need every single thing to be a money-making thing with a CEO that makes too much money. We don't. We just don't. Well, roads are already like that, Talia.

I think they, but the way the roads work is they contract with businesses to do the roads. So that is the government paying tax money to fix roads, but they're paying, you know, or road makers incorporated to, do it. I don't know. Right. Yeah. It's the companies that you see that have the so-and-so work. Thanks you for slowing down during your driving through, whatever it's called. Yeah. Right, right. And none of these are easy solutions, though. I know that. So I guess don't come at me. Yeah. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister is back, everybody. She went to DC last week before that. I had a thing. So it's been a while without Wendy, but she'll be back today. We're going to talk about an email we got.

oh, we missed her so much. We sure did. We'll also find out how things went when she was there. I'm sure it was fine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kind of a crazy week to go, but, you know, we'll see. It's going to be nothing to be crazy weeks for the next hundred days or 97 days or however much as long.

Yeah, we're sub hundred now, right, I think. Yeah. Anyway, between now and then, a song, Brian, if you don't mind. Between now and then a song, let's get to this one. This is an artist named Ella Eyre, and her last name is spelled E-Y-R-E, or is that pronounced ear like jane ear probably like jane ear right e y re because there's jane ear jane ear or jane air not air jane air air air air jane air that sounds like an air conditioning company that i have to pay money to jane air exactly yeah uh anyway uh ella uh has a brand new single called domino season um

you can find it uh via played again sam records big thanks to them and uh p i a s for sending this along air thank you genie ella er probably pronounced ella air ella air Ella air Um, uh, anyway, she's got a, uh, career that spanned over a decade. She's enjoyed huge success and signed her first major record deal at just 16. Jeez. Um, this is great. This is a really cool, like, it's pop with an edge. Like, it's not just your straight pop song.

This is like has a really cool, like, edge to it. Anyway, the song is called Domino season, S-Z-N for season. Here is Ella Air. Oh, we love you Oh, we love you Oh, we love you Oh, we love you Oh, we love you

Ooh Yeah I I I Ha ha Do you know I could sit and stare

I could lose the air Watch as long as you are there I got no sense about me Something in the air Filling up my hair Clocking you without a care Something so nice about it So nice, so nice

So nice Every part of me Every part of you is taking my heart, yeah So good, so good, so good, so good Now that we're moving and sink at the same time Yeah Feels like I've got me no season Think I'm failing in deep bed

Can I see you soon? I like I'll be with you But I do it all weekend My mind what a good feeling Can I see you soon? I like how I'm here with you. This is nice to sing. Oh, but easy as they go.

Universe is really working over time with us. I got no stress about it. White flag in the air. Your hands in my hair. I love it. Too good to be. true but it's true what you do with me so nice so nice so nice so nice so nice every part of you is taking my eye yeah so good so good so good so good

now that we're moving and sink at the same time feels like I've got me no ceases thank god feeling that deep end Can I see you soon? I like how I'll be with you No lie, do it all weekend Mama, what a good feeling Can I see you soon? I like how I'll be with you

I like our I like our I feel with you I like our Like I I I like I Feel with

I Like I It's like I It's like so season Think I feel in deep Can I see you soon? I like I'll be with you No, now

I do it all weekend Mama, what is it feeling Can I see you soon I like how I'll get with you I like I I like it I like it Like our friends.

I don't know. I don't know. I like a lot of me. Like a lot of me. Like a lot of face. Who are the Mario brothers? I don't know. The hockey players?

All I can think of is the guy in the library, Mario Pousie. We found Nintendo America headquarters near Seattle. In true inside edition fashion, we had some tough questions we wanted answered. Now we have Mario. and luigi it's a brother they're the mario brothers that's right are their names mario mario and luigi mario no it's just mario and luigi there are no last names but why are they the mario brothers some questions just have no answers give me rustle up some stakes for the sergeant We've returned.

Brian, who was that one more time? That is Ella Air and her single, brand new single called Domino Season. Look for it out now and look for more music coming from Ella Air. By the way, love any mention I can get of the great godfather author Mario Poozy. Yeah, Mario Poozy.

Boy, that guy really laid down the awesome books, didn't he? The Mario Poozy. Mario Poozy. I like that he called him The guy in the library, too. That's pretty good. The guy in the library, like he just hangs out in there. Yeah.

Maybe he's not talking about the godfather author. He's talking about the guy hangs out in the library named Mario Pousy. Yeah, I don't know why he did that. That was very weird. I also like how, you know, the, some other names are Mario Mario and Luigi Mario. Oh, no. Oh, no, that would be ridiculous. Yeah, that'd be silly, right?

Until 2024, in which case it's canon. Yes. There's an amazing. So I have this channel I follow on YouTube where they, They just have old, um, uh, weird interviews that heart, not hard, um, hard copy. What was the name of it? I forgot. They just said it in the thing.

Anyway, those guys. The one that they used to have do it live on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Inside edition. There it is. Inside edition. Thank you. And they had some of the most ridiculous, like,

confrontive kind of interview styles with things that were dumb like this. It's like a guy Nintendo of America trying to explain how the Mario brothers work. And anyway, I'm going to. going to mine it for all its worth it's very good great excellent that's a good good plan all right i see nothing from windy but that doesn't mean anything yeah we are a little we're like a minute or too early than we usually get her so yeah she's usually running a little late or a little frazzled but uh we'll see what i'll just you know what i'll send her a little note and say yeah hi you good hi are you going to join us today hello fellow sibling are you able to join us

Poozy? Have you heard of Mario Pousy? Mario Poozy. Sold on the real guy, Mario. Puzo. Now I've lost how to say it. Puzzo. Yeah, Puzzo.

He did the Godfather books and what else? Is that it? Is all he did? Yeah, there was another, it was all gangster stuff, if I remember correctly. And he worked with Scorsese on a bunch of it, right? I think that's right, yes. Is it Scorsese or what am I thinking of? No, those were.

who did what's his face his good pal the other guy yes oh my gosh what's wrong with us his daughter was in three why the hell am I not remember

chat room do you know it before I say hi to Wendy Coppola Coppola geez louises all right nicely done let's get Wendy in here and do this here's another Minnesota

tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage oh my goodness it's Wendy my sister who hasn't been here in a while and we've missed you horribly

Yeah. How have you guys even survived? I don't know. I know. We need so much therapy now. That song was right. The boy needs therapy and we're ready for it. Let me ask you a question, though. You guys went to D.C. That's the District of Columbia, the nation's capital last week. What did you do? Did you get on like Abe Lincoln's knee? What did you do? What did you do? We did so many fun things. Do you really want to hear this? I do. Someone want to hear a travel lot? I do. kind of yeah like well i don't know what you do i mean i know there's like obviously you see the lincoln memorial you see the big uh sticky uppy thing what's that called the um washington monument you get to go see where uh nicholas cage stole the declaration of independence all that stuff so what i what do you what do you do on a trip like that and why did you go it was it was really fun and we went on an interesting week did we not um so you know comala announces she's running what that

one of her day and then we show up a couple days later. Yeah, what timing. Net Yahoo was in town and he was speaking to Congress. Did you say, I'm sorry, did you say Ben Yahoo? Is that how you put it? Netten Yahoo.

I like Ben Yahoo. All we heard was Yahoo. Netten Yahoo. And there were 20,000 pro-Palestinian protesters and you at one point, we just were leaving a museum and walking

it's like 5 o'clock at night and it should be just traffic nightmare everywhere. We're really in the center of things and it is silent. Weird. And all the roads are blocked off and we're walking on roads by ourselves. We're like, are we in the wrong place? It was super wild.

And then later saw where they were and so like a bunch of stuff and then I think Elon Musk was in town and there were so many I keep calling it barricades, motorcades were suddenly like and then everyone just freezes. I mean, the traffic there is unbelievable.

Yeah, yeah. So that was interesting. But the best part was we got the coolest thing. So if anyone goes to the candle, find out if your senator does this from your state. But we have a senator named Tina Smith, and she does coffee with teen on Thursday. So we show up and we're the only tourists. Everyone else are like, you know, interns or. you know some different lobbyists and various people just anyone from

Minnesota can show up and she she serves you coffee from a local roaster she's done it for five years has never repeated apparently we have a lot of local roasters and we she just asks us questions and like we could ask her questions and she asked where everyone was from or whatever and we were the only tourists in the room she asked us like what's your favorite thing you've seen so far and Abe is standing there and he goes well my name is Abraham

so the Lincoln Memorial is pretty cool for him totally and he delivered it he's like I'm still riding high on my timing that was awesome yeah it hit it was really great and so Wayne are you saying are you saying you have a senator that seems like she's actually representing the people of the state she's

from weird yeah she is beyond normal she's she's there Monday through Thursday then she flies home and spends the you know her weekends with um archie her husband and her dog i forgot her dog's name anyway she's super cool and super normal and the best part of this so we have this chat with her she's so cute everyone can get a picture with her and ask her questions and she was great and then one of her staffers took us on a tour of the capital so we got to go in the underground like the secret senator train have you know about this yeah they talked about it they used it during the capital uh riot the 6th january 6th

Oh, yeah, because they shuttled those right. That's how a lot of them get out. Yeah. So the building, the two big buildings, or maybe there's three, where their offices are, they take this old, it was old and now they have a newer one, but this train that goes into the Capitol. And so we got to ride it. And we got on the train with Amy Klobuchar, who is our other senator. And we saw Chuck Grassley from like four feet away. That guy's one million years old, by the one.

Oh, yeah. I don't know how they're even propping that dude up. He is. I know. I think he's dead. I think he's actually dead. That's my opinion. Then we saw Raphael Warnock from Georgia and Adam in this like everyone's just like a 20 year old hot intern.

I'm telling you, everyone is good looking and smart there. And they're surrounding all these senators and running around and we see Warnock just kind of getting on one of the other trains. And Adam yells, go Georgia. Wow. And everyone kind of freezes because I think there's a little on edgeness that's probably continued. Oh, yeah, if somebody yell something in the middle of a tour, yeah, that seems bad. Yeah, I was like, I feel like we are inappropriate in this level. We need to act more serious.

Anyway, and so we got to rent the old trains, and then there is, you guys maybe know this, the elevator that's just for senators. Yeah, I've heard of that too. Which we have renamed the Senevator. Senevator. I didn't know why we're the first, because that's so obvious. But anyway, so it's fun. Wow.

The tour was awesome, and we got all sorts of very nuancedy, fun Minnesota tidbits. I learned a bunch of interesting things. We were the 32nd state and the last state to be allowed into the old Senate chamber because we were the 32nd, blah, blah, blah, stuff like that. But a lot of cool, like, little fun things. And I kept thinking, is this how America works now? Because we're getting a, like, notice the depictions of the native people in some of the artwork or in not the artwork you can remove, but like the stonework. And it is grotesque and absolutely racist, right? Oh, yeah.

Some of it was like, yeah, man, look at these, look at what we did. Like, they were pretty proud of that stuff early on. It's rough. And so she's telling us how awful it is. And then she's pointing to these sandstone pillars that were the slaves, the enslaved people were putting them there. And I'm thinking, okay, I'm getting the, like the darker part of the history here or just like a view that's going to be more Minnesotan.

Let's just say that, which is both real friendly. and hometowny at the same time, like, you know, more purple. Let's just say that, right? And then as I'm walking around and I'm hearing, I'm hearing other staffers from other states, you know, giving a tour to someone with a MAGA hat on. And they're getting a very different chat. A different tour. Let's say that.

And I was like, this is unfortunate, actually. Right? Like, this is unfortunate. We should all be getting the same history because it is the same history. Do they ever say we're walking, we're walking, we're walking? Do they ever do that? No, no. It was great.

But it was like, you know, a tiny little tour group. So it was super fun. And that's one of everyone's highlights. And then we went and sat in on the House of Representatives just in their chamber and listen to him, do a couple things. So that was kind of cool. So do you guys get to see the main congressional chamber where the podium is and they do all the voting and all that? Oh, wow. So you got to see where the January 6th that he gets went.

Yeah, we get to see all the things. And where it, like, and I asked her as we're leaving, I'm like, sorry to ask like a January 6th question. But I'm just wondering, like, what happened to all of you guys on that day? Like, all the, all of the people working here, like, because we were, I was so near senators, like, three or four times. I was like right by them, right? And then other times, tons of tourist groups are walking in and out of different chambers. Like, we are in the thick of it. Like, it's great.

Actually, it was very heartwarming. I, like, enjoyed feeling like it felt less, I don't know. Like, you're going to see the queen and you're seeing the people's work, you know. It's just kind of cool. But I said, how did that work that day? And she's like, well, just like yesterday when Netanyahu was speaking and we knew there would be protests, we were, we all worked from home. Oh, okay. Unless you're in there as a special guest or you're part of the whatever.

But they knew, they knew it was. coming. Something was coming. They didn't know the extent of it, right? And so most of those sort of extra folks were just not even physically there because it would have been crazy numbers of people inside. You didn't see Utah Senator Mike Lee there by chance, did you? Oh, I did not. Now, if you had, I wonder what they would do to you security-wise. Because you remember in the 80s and 90s when you would get behind a friend or a family member and you would kick their foot over while it was in the rear and it would kind of trip them, but they wouldn't exactly fly. ball. You know what I'm talking about? That little movie did? Or you hit the back of their knee.

Yeah, or hit the back of they makes him like buckle and then they, but they're fine. It's just annoying. I wonder what they would do if you did that to Mike Lee. How, how tackled would you get by? Funny you should bring that up. My boys literally did that to me on the elevator in the capital. On the escalator. They wouldn't put me on the cenovator. That's too bad. It doesn't work so well if it's the senator's escalator, does it? Yes. It's an escalator. The Seinexcalator. The Seinexcalator. Sexillator. Wait a minute. That's a whole other product.

We don't want to tell that here. Well, that's fun. I'm glad you guys had a educational. One other thing I'm going to tell you, Scott, because I have a hello for you. So Michelle Dare has lived in D.C. for 20-something years. So we went to dinner at her house. Wow. That's crazy.

I saw, I saw, um, sorry, what's the band, Brian? Um, teach your children. Well, why can't they go? Crossby Still's Nash and Young. Yes. I saw them in concert with her. in the late 80s on a date. Oh, wow.

Yeah, we went to some, although Young wasn't there. No, she wasn't. But it was the first time I'd heard Southern Cross. She stills and Ash Young and Scott's date. That's right. But they had, it was the first time I'd heard live Southern Cross, and man, really cemented it is one of my favorite song. That's a transformative song.

It's so good. That's so funny. Well, that's good. She's doing well and, you know, living life and all that. That's great. Yeah. So that was a blast. So we got to see her little neck of the woods,

Alexandria and I was I just couldn't stop laughing all these corporations are trying to buy up old Alexandria I mean it's old you know like colonial houses you can't remodel you know what I mean it's really beautiful and very quaint and cute and all these corporations are trying to buy build it to build high rises and everyone who lives there is a retired lawyer who has plenty of money and too much time and so it's never going to work sounds about learning weird stuff like that. Like, it was fun to, there was a lot of cool.

Did you guys do the Smithsonian? All the memorials. Yeah, we saw a bunch of museums. If you haven't seen it, the women's memorial, I think it's Vietnam. Anyway, it was really,

really cool statue. What is the, what is the Senate chamber smell like? Does it have a smell? Well, now urine. Ever since January 6th, you just can't get that urine smell out of there.

Exactly. get it out. Yeah, it just smells old and like people that, you know, I don't know. Like old, like a library, like a like, yeah, like wood and paper and stuff. It wasn't noticeable. Like I wasn't like, what's that smell? It was more like, oh, this place is old. And the walls are real thick. And it's just, I like, I like, I like old building smells. Like one of my favorite smells. I like it. And then I dragged my kids. This is the thing. They all wanted to do their things. We did their thing. I'm like, we're doing one thing for me. And we're going to the post office.

be weird by the way it's so well done and very fun so if you're bored and you're at all like stamps good night it is really if you like stamps go to the uh go to the dc post office that's great but the whole thing smelled so much like that smell you're talking about that i thought okay i don't know if i can be in here too long it was great be a little overwhelming uh well that's awesome i'm glad you had a good time and i'm really glad you're back here because we've got this email that I think is going to be useful for many people to hear your advice about. So let's play, or let's read it.

This is from someone who likes to call themselves anonymous. And they said, Hi, Scott, Brian and Wendy. I'm a 42-year-old man from the UK who has always struggled socially. I've never had many friends and I'm finding it even more difficult in my increasing years.

Oh, you think 42 is old. It really isn't. No kidding. It's, yeah, if I could go back. Anyway, I'd probably do the same things, but whatever. I've been married since 2013, and if it wasn't for my wife, I would have had little to no social life. I'm happy with my own company, or sorry, I'm happy with my own company most of the time, but it just recently, I'm feeling increasingly lonely, which hasn't been

a thing for me much previously. My wife encourages me to join groups and meet new people, but if I'm honest, don't want to. I'm in a catch-22 scenario where I want more friends, but I struggled to make the first step. I used to do things after work with my team, but I felt or I find it hard to be myself as the team has changed over the years, mainly due to lack of confidence, anxiety, and what feels like low level depression. I'm feeling increasingly isolated, but it almost feels like I'm self-sabotaging any possible new relationships. I have counseling or therapy every two weeks, which helps, but the positive effects don't last long. I'm also trying to keep myself fit by jogging more and also find that an escape from what I am, sorry,

and I also find that an escape from what's going on in my head. I'd be interested. it to hear your take thanks anonymous uh i think this is relatable i think a lot of people feel like this even though you got you know he's got his own company he's got people working for him all the time you know successfully he's he's married but still feeling like you know you can't make those connections or whatever this i think a lot of this comes from just how and even not not even with the pandemic but just how isolated we've all become being able to do so much of our lives on a phone, on a computer, and not have to interact with other people. We lose some of those interpersonal techniques and abilities.

Really good point. So, Wendy, where do you want to go on this one? I'll tell you quick, funny story. Abe needed to make a doctor's appointment. He is 18 years old. He can do it himself. Yeah. And, you know, you think about by the time you were 18, you probably talked to at least

your friend's parents one million times, right? You would have so many conversations. And so he started getting mad at me because I was telling him information. Like, hey, you've got to give your birthday. They're going to, I'm just telling him how to do it. And, you know, he's never been one for feedback. So I call the number. I set the phone down.

And I just, he's like, what do I do? I'm like, figure it out. And I ran away. And he was on hold for the next 20 minutes and 100. So it didn't work out. I was really hoping it would be like, you know, unfortunately it did not work out. But the reality is like he may never ever have to do that again. He could just go online and schedule it and then and he'll talk to his doctor when he gets there. That's going to be the extent of it. So we we extrapolate that out towards just the practice. So the practice from, hey, there's a stranger. I'm going to interact a little bit, beep up and then go on with my day to I don't even know how to do that. because I don't practice that very much. So when I am doing that, it feels really awkward or I'm, like, overwhelmed or something happens. You're going to do it even less, right?

So we have a tendency to as humans to move away from uncomfortable feelings. So unless we are forced to or we don't know any better, we're going to be doing social things that give us sort of practice and some skill set, right? Take a lot of that away and then take how everyone at the same time is also not engaging maybe in the same ways right we have it's ubiquitous enough that you're not going to go out you know somewhere and find a bunch of people going like where have you been like you're the only one we're out here having a good time it is everybody kind of feeling this at the same time so he's at that magic 42 year old age which is classic midlife crisis time yeah and also just sort

of, um, a tricky social time. So either you're kind of friends with people you, uh, work with or you, um, maybe have friends from previous iterations of life. And there, you're maintaining them. That's a really common thing for someone around that age. Making new friends can be really tough because it means you're having to engage in these things where maybe your skill set feels low. And he's describing that, right? Um, he's struggling. It's getting harder to do. Um, and that he's starting to feel more lonely. So, I want to take a tact on this. Like it's really common.

It's often like Brian, you described, like we can do so many things without having it to interact with a person. But I want to add to that because that is a neurological reason. But there is another neurological thing happening here that I think might be helpful to tackle a little bit. So, okay, we'll go back to when he, He says, let's see it. He finds it hard to be himself as the team has changed over the years and some confidence, anxiety, and depression. Okay. So that is a result of, of maybe isolating or pulling back socially because it got scary, right? So the team changed. I have to work harder to connect and bond with people. Maybe I haven't. So now it feels more awkward. And we get sort of a vicious social cycle. So I want to talk about how we're going to break our vicious social cycles. And maybe you guys can share if you have one and what that, what it may look like,

but from a neurological point of view. So let's just start with, let's pick one of you. Do you have any social cycles that are, that contribute to loneliness or isolation for either of you? Oh, interesting. This is going to be a little bit of a twist because I've been so happy with my online friendship life. that I'm kind of not bothered at all that in my regular meat space life like when if somebody kind of fades like they're like not ghost you but just like oh we staying out with them all the time but we don't seem very much anymore doesn't bother me it's like

it doesn't even get me if anything I'm like okay well I could use I could use the time like it's it's not that I don't like them or I don't want that those kind of relationships I do but I don't get upset or obsessed with them or worried that something was said wrong or anything like that. It's just like, well, you know, the best relationships happen. And if they don't, they don't. If they do, they do. But I think that confidence in that not worrying about it so much comes, because that's not always been true of me. I used to be very worried about that back in the day. But I think it changed when so much of my relationships are people online and good relationships, like really strong relationships that I don't feel like there's a big hole to fill.

And so when they don't, when it doesn't get filled, I just sort of go, well, it's fine. You know, I got plenty of people I can talk to. And it's all right. I already talked to too many people. I kind of just need more alone times, what I need. Like, I'm kind of having the opposite problem here of him. I kind of want more. It's not even a popularity thing.

It's just a, it's a noise to quiet ratio. Yeah. And I could use more quiet, really. It's easy for you to turn off your online friends, but not so easy to turn off your meat space friends. 100%. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And I'll be one of those people that I'll fully admit if there's a big plan and they're like, okay, now we're getting together with the Joneses on Saturday. And we're all meeting at the thing and we're doing the thing. I'm like, okay, it's fine. Let's go. But then if somebody says, oh, Sheila Jones had to cancel last minute, there was a change or something. We can't do it. I'm not going to lie. I mean, I might say, oh, that's too bad. But what I'm really thinking is, whew! I don't have to go.

Yeah, I do that a lot. So that's just me, though. I think Brian is probably the opposite. He's very. Very so. I am. I do feel like I'm the opposite. Yeah. I feel like my, I have a very close group of friends that I, that I interact with online. And, but I've got friends outside of, of that life that I try, that I want to see weekly or monthly or get together with. I mean, crazy neighbor for all the, the fun and Ballyhoo that goes on with them. It's like, I look forward to going out and actually having dinner with them on a, on a semi-weekly, basis, bi-weekly basis, or three couple times, maybe once a month or something. But, and then seeing our friends, Kathy and Scott, who have the candy store out in Georgetown. I mean, there's a lot of people that I feel like I would, would be crushed if I didn't see them on a very regular basis. Yeah. So what's your, what would you say is your, okay, so loneliness is not a problem for either

of you. Is that what you're both telling you saying? I never feel lonely. No. No. No. no i mean i have a very i have a great you know an amazing relationship with my wife and i have kids who i see all the time and now i'm getting to see their kids and it's constant so it's not

like i'm being left alone very much we're always there's always something going on gotcha gotcha okay so if we had to identify because we're looking at at the emailer's life yeah and and and seeing that okay one of the things maybe that's happening here with the counseling is that it's it's a chance to it's actually a remediation of some loneliness sometime in that hour you have this hour where everything is about you and someone genuinely cares about what you think and what you know like that's the formula that if if that's the only place you're going to get it we're going to be in trouble and sometimes that's what counseling has served for for people is just i can be open myself and it gets to be about me and there's a lot of value to that um but it it is also made

Maybe when I'm reading this, I'm thinking, okay, well, you've got your hour every two weeks. That's not enough people, right? Maybe for what he is needing. You guys have enough people. I also feel like I don't mind being alone. Like, I used to take solo trips all the time to like California, to Anaheim. I'd go and do Disneyland on my own or Vegas on my own, you know, like two or three days, like, oh, got a great deal on a flight. Sorry, Tina can't make it out there.

I'm going to go do like a little solo trip. And I would have no problem being alone without feeling loneliness. So Brian, what if I had duct taped your mouth and you couldn't talk to people? What would you do then? You mean while I'm on my solo trips? You know, like if I go to Disneyland, it's not like I'm talking to people in line or talking to people managing the rides or anything like that. Like there would be times that I'd go to Disneyland. solo. I don't think there was no reason for me to talk to anybody, and I don't think I did.

Like, I have the person in my head that we had on a, on a previous therapy Thursday, that, that voice in my head. That's who I talked to. Like, oh, my God, I don't want to wait in that line. That, that's the, that's the voice. You're having a bonding moment with your voice. I love it. Okay. But also you, you have a very friendly vibe, and I'm sure enough little interactions like, There's some cessinence that comes from being acknowledged. Now, there can be a whole other hour. We talk about people who have a deep fear of being acknowledged. If anyone has that feeling, please write an email because we could talk about how much much love boy being seen. Just a stranger coming up to and saying, like, are you in line? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stuff like that. So that's a whole other email. But so even though you can do that alone and that there's some confidence there. Obviously, there's, you know, lots of good, healthy reasons you can do those things. There's also just enough human interaction. It's not totally isolating. And you're not isolated in your other life. So we've got, like, a lot of healthy stuff in your social cycles.

Can I, before you can I just say how much fun I think it would be to go to Disneyland with my mouth duct tape? Like, just like to see what the reaction would be. And I would not, I wouldn't like act like there's any discomfort or any reason for it. I would just get on dumber and fly that stupid elephant with duct tape on my mouth and just see what, you know, what the reaction would be to all the people would be. Let's do it. Let's do it. There's a problem. I would not get to enjoy a dull whip. That's the only problem I have with this issue is no dull whip. Just take it off temporarily. Okay. So, so thank you for sharing both of you because I think what we have is a healthy social cycle, right? You've got enough people. You've got enough activities. You need some quiet time that you found kind of a best. balance, right? And, and there are different stages of your life. I bet if I asked you that same question, you would say it's not enough. I need some more connection. Sure. Certainly in 2021 and 2020, I would have felt like that. Yeah. Yeah, totally. So here we have somebody in the UK who I think of, I live there a minute. I know a few people from there is not the, the warmest

get to know you kind of culture. It's not terrible, but it's also like, you know, it's not the north of Sweden either. But it is very much like maybe a little trickier in some ways. Americans tend to be a little more friendly. And then you're in an age, which is really tricky. So this is tough. So if we do an analysis, he's given us some ways to think about it. It sounds like he's got a nice wife. She's encouraging. And really, it sounds like she provides the social life. And that is not an uncommon dynamic. And she's encouraging him to do this, because you can see that he needs it. She does her part. So it sounds like one of his social supports is great, but he needs more. So as we're talking, and I'm going to talk about the neurobiology that

happens with some of this, I want him to think or anyone who finds himself in a similar category to think about what you can start to practice and do that makes your social cycle healthier. So right now, if you're social cycle, if I'd ask you guys and you were like, well, when I do is I wake up And I look at my phone for four hours. And then I go sit at my computer and I hardly talk to anyone. I just get my work done. And then after I throw something in the microwave and then I play video games all night. But not with people and not talking.

Okay. Because there is a lot of social that can come through some of these things. But notice, like a very lonely isolated would not be I'm connecting with people online. It would be I'm just doing things online, right? Right. or I am not leaving this might a place I live, sleep and work and hoop is all, you know, the same square footage. Like I haven't gone outside. I'm not, you know, there's, there's a lot of biology happening in certain social cycles that are really, we don't feel good, right? So I don't, obviously this guy is not that extreme, but from anywhere on the gamut, you can look at what your social behavior in your social cycle is and start to think, okay, where can I intervene in?

here. So let's just talk about what the brain's doing when you're interacting with someone. This is why Brian Arm is like duct tape your mouth. Your eyes would still glitter and people would still smile at you. That's what would happen. But what you get by just even the small things, like someone opening a door, someone extending some kindness, someone just, you know, like stepping out of the way. It doesn't have to be big. I feel this in New York way more than you would think because you think, oh, everyone here's busy and mean or something. and not at all because it's not that system doesn't work without people at least helping each other mildly right um there's just rules you just got to follow um but anyway this idea of like

you are going to get some both you're going to get a lots of different chemicals released in your brain when you're having even minor social interactions now i'm putting aside people who are having a panic attack because someone socially interacting with them and we can talk about social anxiety separately, okay? So this is going to be people who don't have social anxiety for now, okay? Your brain will give you oxytocin, which is the bonding chemical, and you can watch someone hold a door for someone else and get oxytocin. Doesn't even have to be you doing a little good deed, does that? Just seeing a good deed, does that? Just seeing a good deed, yeah. And so you're getting a little dopamine, you're getting oxytocin, you're getting a bunch of these

little doses of these chemicals that encourage interaction. And there's a reason. Our bodies, our chemistry, our entire system requires other people to live. And we have not caught up to we don't need that. Maybe technology can create a world where you would not need another person to live, but our neurobiology is not there and probably won't ever be there. Definitely in our lifetimes. So that is all rewarding you and moving you towards more connection. It wants you to feel more connected.

And even take the feeling of loneliness. The feeling of loneliness is like a warning sign. It's not itself the bad thing. What it is is a part of you saying, we're in trouble. Like, we need more people. And so it will give you this feeling. The hard thing is that feeling can sometimes feel really heavy and then keep us in a social cycle that maintains the loneliness as opposed to breaks us out of the loneliness.

If loneliness could do its job really well, and it would immediately pop you into, I'm going to go talk to another person now because I feel lonely. That's what it's supposed to be doing. But so often, because of our neurobiology, often being hijacked by artificial sources of oxytocin and artificial sources of dopamine, so I can look at my phone, watch a bunch of reels or shorts or whatever, and watch people living life and having fun and making me laugh. And I'm going to get. All of those sort of pseudo experiences of social connection and interaction, it's going to be just hand fed to me. And I can feel good while I'm doing it, right? But then we turn it off and it's silent or we don't have somewhere to go. And it can actually create sort of think of it as like a rebound effect of like, you just gave me fake food and now I'm really hungry. Right. And so people can experience that a lot, but it's so tricky to get out of this. You can see why I'm using the concept of cycle, is our neurobiology gets rewarded for not doing now at any, different than any other stage of human sort of existence. We're getting rewarded socially by being alone

and not getting the, like, the nutrition of actual social interaction in terms of neurochemistry. That makes sense. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So this, we don't have a way to artificially make that sensation now right that doesn't exist like you were saying like we don't have any kind of pharmaceutical grade solution to that chemical being a thing you could do even if you're isolated all the time let's say you work in the i don't know one of the pool the poles you're up there in some arctic and arctic place and you're studying ice holes or i don't know what you do and there's nobody up there but you can is there any way to like you know fix that in people i guess you were saying that before technology maybe you could do it but we don't really

Well, technology gives you a way to feel connected, right? So, like, it's both the blessing and the curse in that it gives you, you know, you face time with your grandpa, you are getting to do something that no other generation of human ever got to do. You could be in different places and see a loved one, right? That is incredibly powerful and connecting. And, but I am not talking about you are connecting with your real friend over somewhere else or you're on headsets together, playing, you know, doing.

a raid and we're bonding and laughing right we're not getting that that connective stuff when we're just consuming someone else's content which is fun and gives our brain like a lot lots of fun chemicals maybe but it doesn't meet this exact need it's like a it's it's the near enemy of what you actually need it's it seems like it is it seems like i'm you know i'm feeling this thing but then the net result is increasing loneliness um and so if we think about Yes, you can be isolated up at the pole and doing ice samples. Great example. And we can give you an antidepressant.

And what that will do is keep more serotonin in your brain that normally would be depleted because it's dark and you're alone. And so, yeah, we can chemically, that's what pharmaceuticals are for mental health often is to give the brain more of what it currently doesn't have. Right. And so, yeah, but there is nothing like, honestly, laughing really hard with someone you care about. Like, there is no medicine that matches that in terms of connection, right? Because it gives our brain all the things. And our brain gives us all those things because it wants us to survive. It wants us to not die.

And if the more we are connected and close and bonded with people, the less chance we have of dying, right? Because they can help us. And so this social network is really bioling. logically important. And then we have all these systems in place that warn us, like the loneliness feeling. And sometimes it can be even depression and even the social anxiety can all be tied into this, your system warning you that you're not getting enough. So, okay, explaining all of that, he's probably like, yeah, great, tell me what to do now

because I would like to have more people in my life. Solve this problem. Yeah. Right. And so like when he says, I'm feeling increasingly isolated, but it almost feels like I'm self-sabotaging any new relationships. That's exactly what being stuck in an unhealthy social cycle will create is he's not wrong. He is self-sabotaging new relationships because isolation, unfortunately, doesn't just, or loneliness and isolation. Loneliness can lead to isolation. Loneliness can also

lead to, I need to do something differently. We need it to do this second thing. We needed to propel you out. And so one way to do that, is having support from other people. Like your wife sounds like she's, you know, she's already on board with this. What ways can she help increase the likelihood that you're going to socially connect or at least get out of the way if she's in the way?

Because sometimes that happens. But also like my favorite way to help people start to have more connection is to start with where they are in their own interests. So you don't have to go, okay, well, bowling is where they tell me to go to find friends. and you hate bowling is never going to be so i'm going to work so start with what you love so if i was meeting with this person i and in fact i would suggest they take this to their counselor and have them talk it through with them what do they love to do um and even if it's like well i like to play this

thing by myself okay well what is it about playing that thing what does it give you what does you know where do you look at the evidence where do you feel more connected where do you feel we're motivated to have a conversation where do you want to be seen you know kind of already find what we're working with and then see how we can if I had a whiteboard here I would draw big circle

with your social cycle and I would put you know wake up and read the news and feel crappy about everything let's just intervene there let's not read the news when we wake up and within the day as I start to have some of these lonely feelings or thoughts

I have five things I could do in that moment. So maybe your phone has a, you take your home screen or a reminding buzzer or app or something that tells you, reach out to a buddy now. And then you do it, right? You just start to intervene in break up what you have been doing because it's, it's neurologically at this point, probably pretty similar.

And the wiring is there. And so we have to interrupt that and we have to practice something different. Sort of going back to, you know, my kid making a phone call to get a doctor's appointment, that is hard the first time. It's annoying, maybe for the rest of your life, sure. But the practicing of the thing that breaks the cycle is really powerful. And so it might look like, okay, reach out to a buddy. It might be force yourself to go to the after, you know, after our gathering with your office and make sure you are.

Happy hour or something. Happy hour. Why do I call it the after hour? Well, there's like, you know, Apray, I guess, Opry ski. Go to that. You can always,

you can always tell Wendy and her are not drinkers. You can always tell. Right. Because we don't know. We don't know the words. We don't know how this stuff works. Is that a word?

No, anyway, yeah. Drink clan. When people gather and they drink out of these cups, have you guys heard of this? Anyway, it is. So go to that. Also, maybe there's like a trivia night. if you if you like trivia nerdy stuff go do that if you know find one person in your name

I promise you and this is what is I feel like is so different from 50 years ago is you would have been harder pressed to find someone who feels this way um I people were not that life was perfect but they were definitely forced to be more connected um to their neighbors and they maybe only had one store they ever went to right like I'm going back in time here but do you I'm saying like your your world was only as big as it was and the people you knew was about 150 people that is that's the science here and that's so we get Facebook and now we have 2,000 friends you don't have 2,000 friends you have no friends if unless they're 150 real people right and real people online count it's that's not the distinguishing is not if it's online it's if it's not a bot

right or it's it's not um you're anonymous all the time right um and so our max is human humans really is about around 150 people. So if we think about that, that sounds crazy numbers when you're feeling lonely. We just need one. And I promise that neighbor in your neighborhood is also feeling this same thing.

And so how do we get everyone out of their houses and meet? So here's my advice to the whole world is to be Minnesota. They do this thing. And I thought, I did not know what I was watching when I first arrived.

You got here like the beginning of March. Sorry, the beginning of August. And the first Tuesday in August throughout the cities, and not every neighborhood does it, but a lot do. They call it the night to unite and it's block parties everywhere. So as we were driving through, I'm like, why is that road blocked off? And why is that other road blocked? And one time I saw a police escort and a fire truck and I'm like, is something happening? And really, it's just neighborhoods gathering and having a big neighborhood party.

If there's anything remotely like that, just go. In fact, maybe make yourself a goal that any social option, you have to say yes five times before you're allowed to say no. That whole yes man thing, right? Where it's like, all right, I'm going to say yes automatically. I have to do it kind of thing. Yes. Yeah.

And just you can do it with just social things. Like anytime there's a gathering, you're invited or your wife invites you or you're talking to a person and they're like, hey, let's do this thing. or your neighbor is outside, just say yes, say yes five times and see what happens. Because without the practice, it's really hard to do some of the things that gives you a new social cycle because our brains will continually get easy, easy, easy drugs from entertainment. That's how it's always work. That's how it will always work.

That's why we love it. And it's a really healthy part of a balanced life. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just that it mimics so much of what we, really need, but those things can only be gotten by another person. And I always remind people, start really, really, really tiny. If you heard me say 150 in your heart, you know, stop beating, that's ridiculous. There's no way. That's not, that's just our max. But our minimum, we need to start there. What is your minimum? So maybe there is a friend. And I've found this as I talk to

clients. They'll have some thought about someone from a long time ago. And I'll say, When was the last time you talked to them? And it's like, oh, forever. And it's like, well, how do you feel about that? I mean, I don't know. And then I just make them do it, you know, like, just do it. So they reach out to this person and have this incredible reconnection. Because you know what?

Everyone is in your sane boat. They just, they really are. It's incredibly unifying. Maybe Scott and Brian have like endless supplies of people. But that's because they have voices, bases for radio. I will take that as a compliment. It was surely intended to be, sure. Why not?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And for you who are feeling pretty comfortable in your social circles, would you just reach out to somebody else? Bring them in.

There's more than enough room. And I think sometimes that's, that's tricky. Is it, sometimes you just need one person to say, hey, come here, sit by me. Right? Yeah. And the trick is to find, like I was, this is something I've noticed a lot. with van he's five and everyone's his friend everyone it doesn't matter how stranger you are doesn't matter who you are you just met you're his friend full he has full trust and and wants to be there

because you're both there the automatic friend time and um i was a lot like that when i was little and i think i think you can get real jaded about a adult middle school baby yeah yeah it's about when it starts about middle school it starts and then the rest of your life you're always like are they talking my my back are they what's going on with this guy you're like i don't know if they really are dude does he just say he wants to hang out are they just here because dad has all these video games in the basement like what you know like you start to you start to lose that innocent everybody should be your friend thing and everybody's motive yeah and it's sad because you know it's nice to live in that childhood dream of you know everybody's your friend so what we hope for him

is that he can retain some of that while also understanding the reality of life and that people are competitive and often will turn on you if it benefits them and that sort of thing. It's just a tricky balance. But I do sometimes admire that. I see him do do it and I just go, we'll be at the zoo and he'll just fast friend some kid he met. Some kid, you know, I'm trying to think of the scenario, but we're at the zoo and there was some kid hanging out by the bar and he was just by himself. And he goes, that's one of my friends. I said, do you know that kid? And he goes, not yet or something. It just runs over there and starts talking to him,

asks him if he wants to sit with him. Like, he's just that kind of kid. But I know that he'll hit a stage where he'll be like, you know, he'll get, the reality will set in. And it's unfortunate. And for some of us, maybe that reality is deeper or it hits us harder

and it makes us less willing to do stuff. I get balanced out pretty well by having a wife who's very social and love social things. And so, you know, Kim's always got some plan for something. And so I'm there. We're doing it.

We're doing it together. But I have to admit, it like my favorite times are when I spend it with my kids because I know them and I I know exactly I know their entire life you know their motives I know everything both good and bad I just know it all I accept it all and they accept me for all my flaws and strengths and so it there is a that that fairy tale version of a relationship does exist but for me that's where it exists um less so with people like in my neighborhood although we just had a block party too and these things happen it's fun it's all good, but I never once go, boy, me and that Tesla neighbor, he and I are going to, you know, we're really going to head it off.

You know, maybe, and it's maybe that experience, like having a somewhat negative experience with a neighbor, maybe that makes you kind of a once bitten twice shy, or at least more leery of the people around you and the neighbors and people you don't know yet and you don't know their motives. Yeah. And it's not so much that I'm paranoid about. It's like, do I want to go? because it takes some mental energy. It's like, well, do I want to give a bunch of energy to this person I don't even know yet? And then I'm like, eh, nah. It's much easier to stay and play.

Wow. Yeah, I could just go sit with the dog in the backyard and talk to that dog for a while. You know what I mean? I don't know. My dog. This is why we love our pets so much because our pets motives are very clear. So there's other, this is why I really like the, what do you already really love? I mean, a neighborhood is you're living the same.

place there's some commonality but like you're already you already have because what does friendship rely on often is at least something in common right some connecting factor we bond and our brain gives us all the chemicals that help us stay bonded when we make a connection and that connection often comes from a thing we enjoy doing or something we both agree on and that's you know that's valuable. So if you don't feel like, okay, I want to go chit-chat and all this small talk, go to an

event that is a thing you care about. Eventually, there's someone to talk to, or you're just enjoying something together. Last night, we took, this is so fun, we took the kids to Vampire Weekend. Nice. And it was super fun. We took them 10 years ago. So Abe was eight

years old when he first saw Vampire Weekend. And it was like a fun, you know, it was a blast. It was so fun. And can I just tell you, they did the best thing at the end of the concert. I've never seen this. And I don't know who could all pull this off. But you know when they come back out and you're like, encore and everyone's screaming.

He says, so we're going to do something different. I am going to take requests, but they cannot be Vampire Weekend songs. And so people are, you know, screaming their names. And they played 15, 12, maybe 12 covers just on the fly. really oh my god what people were saying in the audience one was rambling man i was dying laughing what a great and what a great talent to be able to do that too oh i know and then we're all screaming prince because you know we're in the home of course and he's like i will never disrespect him so you guys have to sing it so they played it oh and then he just told us when to sing purple rain i'll let you guys disrespect let's go crazy and because he's like you guys do not know the talent i can't i can't be it was so fun anyway but i was having this moment surrounded by all these people and like there is something about being in a big group again I'm not talking about people who have fears of that that can be a separate email but in a group

laughing at a comedian or in a group enjoying the same music or you know just being part of community there is a chemical bath your brain will enjoy and so maybe we don't have to we don't jump all the way to I have a best friend I tell everything to we can start smaller and build. But if you're saying yes, at least daily to something socially or at least once weekly, we can start there. You're going to eventually be practicing and being in locations and places where you're going to have a better shot at this. We can't all be Brian who's still duct taped in Disneyland and meets his favorite people. Right. Right. That's the only way you're going to get me to stop singing and it's a small world. That's it. That's the only way you're going to get me to

security has been called and even they will be wild by his duct tape thing wait how are you sit you like a with a muzzle well anyway this is good I think um it's got me you know got me thinking about some I have some relationships that where every time we get together I love it have such a great time but I don't actually seek it out you know it's like I kind of stay quiet about it but there's good in it there's good in fostering those and and and and not just taking them for granted. So hopefully a bunch of people got something out of this. If you have questions, thoughts, your own feelings, or your own experiences of this sort of thing,

you can email us and let us know the morning stream at gmail.com. And let us know anonymous how things go for you. We are hopeful for you. Wendy, it's been a pleasure, as dad would say. A pleasure. It sure has been. Is there anything else you'd like to promote or say or do? Oh, I will eventually.

I'm just recovering right now. There's a lot going on. A lot going on. I totally understand. and stay away from all the COVID out there is a little bit of a surge going on and be safe. All right?

You too. Right. All right. All right. She is now gone. Wendy is gone. Wendy is gone. And that means it's time for us to end the show.

But I would remind people there are shows coming up. I didn't ask you ahead of time, but is Coverville happening today. Coverville is going to happen today. It won't happen at its regular time because one of my clients and a good friend of mine is taking me out for a sushi lunch. but it's up in Boulder.

So I've got to drive up to Boulder, have a lunch, and then come back. And if I've got time between that and a 3.30 meeting, I will do coverville between the two. Otherwise, I'll do it afterwards. So it might be an afternoon thing, like a 4 o'clock, 430 thing. What time do you do? Core's at 5, yeah. Okay, yeah. And this will be a Super Tramp cover story.

So Greg Davies, the, Greg, Roger. Oh, God, what is the guy's first name? It's Davies. hold on a second. David Davies. Rick Davies. I was off completely. So Rick Davies is the lower voice that you hear in Super Tramp.

You've got Roger Hodgson who does the Give a little bit, give a little bit. Right, but then there's the other guy. Now that guy, Rick Davies, is the songwriter and kind of main dude behind Super Tramp. And he and Roger Hodgson had a big falling out, don't like each other very much anymore.

and, and Roger's not allowed to sing any Super Tramp songs in concert anymore. Oh my gosh. But, Rick is the man. Rick, Rick Davies is the guy. Like, all the great songwriting, all the great stuff from Super Tramp are usually because of Rick Davies. Anyway, it's his birthday. So we're going to do a coverville all about Super Tramp today. Just a shorter one, two big full-size sets, especially with one, even in the quietest moments, being a very long song,

even in cover form. So that will be coming up later. Big fan of Super Tramp. So looking forward to that. And Alvin' Breakfast in America is fire. It is so good. So good. One of the best ever.

Tonight, core, as Brian mentioned, 5 p.m. And it's pretty long. Sometimes goes till 9. It's a long core. Yeah. Expect that again tonight. As we dive in, me, Bo and John. Check it out.

5 p.m. frogvance. TV is where we'll be and we'll be live at 5. Play retro on Friday at 1.30. play date in the morning we're making up for last week and we're going to try that mega picker that jackbox people release see how that thing works still haven't really fiddled with it I probably

should before we do it but that'll be tomorrow just a good idea I think somebody was saying was it Ambassador Domo was saying in chat yesterday that there's some bugs going on with that so I don't know maybe I mean we always do it the old-fashioned way so we'll just see what happens but let's try and if we have a bug

we have a bug but what was that game we played last time that we're like oh my god why don't we put this on the regular rotation oh yeah well uh it was one i had never played before until we did last time and it was so fun so fun someone in the chat remember the name of that we got to we got to pull that up again remind us tomorrow yeah nine a m mountain time yeah yeah that's right lather around thank you amy ladder around that's it and we'll be playing that for two hours so check us out at nine a m tomorrow as brian mentioned also a film sack this weekend uh we are watching transformers Transformers.

Yeah, they are robots in disguise, but also, it's the first one from 2007. So for good or ill, that's the one, probably more ill than good. But we'll see. Probably more ill, yeah. Yeah, I still think the, I think when it's robots doing stuff, it's cool. It's a great movie. When it's LeBoo fron and around yelling, no, it's dumb. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't care for any of that. But I do like robots saying rollout. It's still way subpar to the Bumblebee solo movie. No, that movie's rad. I love that one. So good. Yeah. Wish they could stick to that, that good, but they don't.

Style. Quality. Yeah. Anyway, that'll be it for us. What else we got? That's it. Frogpants.com slash TMS is our website. Everything is there.

Brian, let's get out of here with some music. Sure. Pirate Ian wrote in and said, one year ago, today my best friend and I headed down to the courthouse and I said, I do, or we both said I do, I guess. That's how it works. Since that time, we bought a house, moved across the country, and had an actual non-courthouse wedding.

Can't wait for more hikes, puppies, and road trips. Ash is a fan of all things funk. So I leave the song in your capable hands, hug a hobo, sign Pirate Ian. Aw, super cool. Yeah, funk. All right, into some funk. I'm into some funk, and this is a newer one

that somebody told me about, and it's really, really good. This is by a band called the Red Spot Rhythm section. Maybe they come from Jupiter. I don't know. But this is from their single, the Lookup single, Here's their cover of Paul Simon's Boy in the Bubble. There's a slow day when someone beating with soldiers by the side of the road. There's a bright light, a shattering the shop,

with us the bomb and the baby girl's wires to the radio, and these other days are miracle and wonder. This is a long distance call. The way the camera bows is the somo, the way we look to a song, the way we look to a distant concentration that's dying in the corner of the sky, these are the blue years and miracle and wonder and don't cry, baby, don't cry, don't cry, don't fly. It was dry wind, swept across the desert and curled in the world, and the wind, swept across the desert, and curled into the circle of bird

and the dead same falling out of the children the mothers in the bothers in the automatic earth these are the days and nearer wonder this is a long distance call the way the camera bows

this is so small the way we look to us all the way we look to a distant consultation that's dying in the corner of the sky these are the days are near going to wonder and don't cry baby don't cry

I don't turn around. Turn around jump shots, everybody jumps out. Every generation grows like a hero with the pop charts. Medicine is magical and magicals all together. Boy in the bubble and the baby with the babble and hearts. I believe these are the days. Lasers in the jungle somewhere. These two carders signals of constant information, a lucipration, a million has a billion has, baby.

These are the days a miracle wonder. This is a long distance call. The way the camera follows, this is so much, the world to us all. The way you look to a disqualination, that's dang in the corner of the sky. These other days are nearer come under and don't car, baby, don't car, don't car, don't. Baby don't fly Baby don't cry Baby don't cry

Baby don't cry Oh! Uphiourn't Oh, ooh, they don't fly. This show is part of the network. Get more at frogpants.com.