The Morning Stream - TMS 2685: Loofa Rigno

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

The Dipsy Chips! Hello from the MRI. Lastname is Placebo. The Soup Nazi had more people! Feet Flavored with Brian Dunaway. Sweaty for the first song. There are more Brads. Greek Town Gyro. I'd have won if it weren't for that pesky Weiner! Not everyone is a Kelly Clarkson. Even Kelly Clarkson. The Best & Worst of the JK's. Harry Potter and the Swollen Surgeon. The Heimrich Manoeuver. The Great McDonalds dumpster fire. How hot are your cheeks, with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Heimrich maneuver. The great McDonald's dumpster fire. How hot are your cheeks with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream? If there's one thing that I know, there's never to mess with mother nature, mother-laws, mother freaking ukrainian i know you are frustrated and i know you look dopey in short pants the morning stream ah that's stupid we're looking for hello everybody welcome to do you're looking for hello everybody welcome to TMS, it's the morning stream for Monday, August 5th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson and Brian Nibbid is here also.

Well, hello. Happy brand new week to you and you and all of you. Yeah, man. It's, uh, you know, new week, new chances at life, new opportunities, uh, you know, we'll see how we did by Thursday, but, uh, you know. Did we take, did we, we use all of those opportunities afforded to us this week in this brand new week? Uh, or did we just let them, uh, fritter away. Yeah, like, that's the thing you don't want to, oh, a fritter, dude. Fritter, fritter away. I can't remember the last time I had a proper fritter.

It's been... I love a good fritter. A couple years since I've had a fritter. Well, anyway, it's good to have everybody here. Hope you're all well. Birthday boy here got to see the foo fighters over the weekend. Woo-hoo! I think you should talk about that.

What was that like at the Mile High Stadium. Oh, so good. What a great show. And, uh, Dave Grohlman, um, sure, it was 90-something degree. even at 7.30 when they took the stage. Actually, came out 7.40, and they played for nearly three hours. They left, they played the last song, Everlong, wrapped up at 10.30. So 740, 10.30, 2 hours and 50 minutes, I think, is what that comes out to.

Constant. And he was sweaty during the first song. And it just went, we watched the dude lose like 5, 6 pounds just on stage there, running around on stage but they did you know they did everything

you'd want to hear him do they um I said on film sack they did some snippets of covers as Dave introduced

the members of the band but I also forgot that they started out little acoustic set and Dave impromptu started doing um

this is this is the one thing where they veered off the playlist that you see on setlist dot FM they he veered away and started playing

um uh the tenacious D tribute. Oh, the tribute song. The greatest song in the world, because, of course, he played drums on that one, or fairly famously.

And he basically got through about half the song and said, I don't know any more of this song. I only play drums. So that sounds like he's having a little improv fun up there. A lot of improv fun, yeah. And he sounds incredible. Like I said, the band was tight.

They sounded great. Pretenders opened up for him. And I was worried about the set list on this one, because I glanced at it as well. And it looks like on the previous legs of the tour, they were doing a lot of new stuff. They had a brand new album, Retaliation or something that came out last year, Pretenders did. And I've listened to it. None of it's really grabbed me as much as their older stuff. And so I was very pleasantly surprised when they opened with a new

song and then proceeded to just go hit after hit after hit back on the chain gang, back to Ohio. Kids, stop your sobbing. The one thing that they surprisingly didn't do is brass in pocket, which was kind of their breakout hit, but maybe she just doesn't like doing that one. Or maybe, I wonder if we missed it because we were meeting friends, and they were getting to the stadium.

They ended up getting to the parking area kind of late, and they just said, you know, go on without us. We're probably going to be 15, 20 minutes late, and we didn't want to miss the train. So we're like, no problem. We'll see you. our seats and as we were coming up the ramp to level five at mile high stadium uh pretenders took the stage i had to go to the bathroom before we sat down so we missed like the first song

and a half and i think i wonder if she did a little little bit of brass in pocket after the the opening then i just did hear oh might have so so uh um you were telling me i think it was you that told us this on film sack that the drummer for them now is like the ex devo guy or was a Yeah. Yeah. God, what's the dude's name? That really surprised me. I don't know why. It just seems like such a different genre, but like... It totally does. I mean... Weird. Weird combo. This guy, what is it? Is it... Let's see. Josh Freeze. Is that right? And Josh Freeze, not just Devo, offspring, nine-inch nails.

Oh, okay. But his longest tenure was with Devo, I believe. okay um that's really interesting so that makes sense though it sounds like he's kind of in every i'll fit wherever you want me kind of drummer yeah and he's you know like uh when when dave was introducing me says i could tell you all the albums that you've heard this guy on but uh hope you're wearing comfortable shoes because it's going to be a long night folks um let's see here uh divo since 1996 um so not i guess not in the hay day of Devo, not in the 80s

Devo. Okay. Weezer, Sublime with Rome, Sting, the offspring, Danny Elfman, Guns and Roses, perfect circle. Damn, that dude is everywhere. Holy crap. He's everywhere. Yeah. Like, not just genres, but times. Like, time, exactly. Wow. Replacements. I mean, you look at this guy's resume. Jeez, Louise. Avrilivine,

Kelly Clarkson, Ween. Wait, he played for the replacements. Also the opening band. Was that like kind of a reunion for him then? Or not replacement. Sorry, the pretenders. Yeah, I got them mixed up. They pretended to be the replacements.

They were replacement pretenders. That's how that worked out. Good Charlotte, Evanescence, and Michael Boubley. Like in time, you know, how about that for an incredible... Adam in the chat says he was on Star Search. That's cool. really i wonder if that's how um how he got a start she's i don't know how many it'd be fun to go back and look at all the ed mcmann star search stuff and see who actually came is still working you know

yeah yeah like got their start there and stayed probably a lot more than came from american idol and uh the voice yeah not everybody's a kelly clarkson or uh dottery or uh um you know uh who's the hudson Jennifer Hudson Jennifer Hudson yeah she's still doing stuff triple threat Jennifer Hudson yeah oh yeah she's the she's acting now

more than she sings right or do I think so I don't know what the last thing I mean I know she's she's oh she was in a was she in one of the sex in the city deals like she came in as

kind of a pseudo Samantha replacement oh maybe give control might have not really you know just yeah kind of

a new, new character, plus, you know, they had a person of color problem there with a... Oh, yeah, that was a very white, that was a very white show for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Widest of shows. Rainbow Bright says Beyonce started on Star Search. Wow, that's cool. Is that real? Is that true?

Wow. Would that have been with her, the band with, what was the name of the group? Before she went on her own, they were called Destiny's Child. Is that who they performed as? That's interesting. That's an interesting question, yeah. if it was um all three of them uh betty oh i can i'll never i'll never remember the other members of destiny's child i don't either yeah that's unfortunate they're like shell williams they're like

they're like the they're like the other dipsy chips they're just uh you don't know the dipsy chips some my kids called them growing up they loved the dipsy chips we'd be in the car and i go can you play dipsy chips i'm like all right we will uh well that's great dude i'm glad you had a good time And what a deal. I always wonder, you mentioned this a little bit, but with the heat and the elevation, it seems like a band would really have to be prepped for that, you know? For sure.

He even joked about that. He says, you know, oh, they told me, man. They said, you'll watch out for the altitude. And if that. You know, Dave is, what an incredible showman. Like, he interacted with the audience almost between every song and told us, you know, this was. the biggest foo fighters show they've ever had in the 30 years that they've been a band

this was the biggest venue slash largest attendance i don't know what the actual attendance was but um mile high stadium or empower field at mile high is the official name i think on a on a full day when they're using the full stadium seats somewhere between 75 and 80 000 people and they had about a a quarter of it blocked off because the stage the stage was so so i don't know if this was about a 50 to 60,000 attendance. It looked pretty packed, like full, the rest of it anyway. Yeah, wow. All five levels, like, just completely, yeah.

That's awesome. And then the floor, like the field, completely full seats. And in some of those seats, you know, the Nunnalees, Rusty and Shelley. Oh, nice. Who are in town for that concert. We're going to see them on Thursday. We're going to go see Borderlands with the two of them. So it should be interesting.

Scary. I say scary because I just don't know. I don't know. I know. There's so many things like about it that I want to like. I like the actors. Everybody in it's I like a lot. But then it's Eli Roth directing it and he is so hit and miss for me.

He really is. And I'm not, I've maybe played 30 minutes of Borderlands and decided, yeah, this one, this is maybe not for me. So if it, if it's a, how well will it adhere to the game itself? I won't know. I won't be a good example to know that. If the movie holds up on its own, which it needs to do in this kind of, you know, you can't just have a movie that caters just to the people are familiar with the game. So it'll be interesting to see that, but I don't know.

The core of the game is a very weird combination of wasteland, Mad Max stuff, and science fiction. And sometimes it's an uneasy alliance of those two things. It worked really well in Borderlands 2, I felt. I felt like Borderlands 2 is maybe the peak of the series. I've played all three. Three was good, but the writing was pretty lousy in three. Do the games have a touch of the comedy? Oh, yeah, for sure.

Okay, so it's tons of it. It's kind of tongue-in-cheek. Yeah, and I would argue they're not the best. It's not the most, how do I put this? It's not very sophisticated comedy, I'll tell you that. It's a lot of, you know, pretty, not the, low brow in the traditional sense but like it's it's pretty common denominator low hanging fruit kind of comedy gotcha sure whether this whether the movie will will will exceed that and do better at

that i i don't know i mean you got uh what's his name in there um can't think he was name jack black is uh jack black is a clap trap who's the who's the who's the who's the comedian can't think he was name kevin hart kevin hart jeez kevin heart you know tent makes me think they're going to go for a lot of sort of loud quippy comedy right it's going to be a lot of uh yeah right yeah it is interesting though oh harry brainbo bright says exactly what i was about to say a lot of people have assumed that this was some tv show coming to like prime or something because it looks like one of those right the fallout having this and fallout even though they're they're different but having them come out so close together i was even confusing the two and before before fallout came

out. Oh yeah, I forgot. We got Jamie Lee Curtis in this thing. Cape Blanchett. Yeah. We love both of them. Ariana Greenblatt. Oh, Ariana Greenblatt. Oh, she's the young... She's Tiny Tina is in this thing. And she's, we know her from... Yeah, what am I thinking of? Something recent that she was great in. Oh, 11 Monsters, maybe. Is that? Oh, you know, we saw her on film sack for 65, the Adam Driver deal. Oh, that's right. She was great. She was a high point of that. Otherwise, Otherwise, not great movie. That movie was rough.

I don't think it was the cast fault, but that movie kind of sucked. Oh, and she's a, she's a young Gomorrah. The balance of life in the universe is like this knife. Here, take this knife and try to kill me with it later. That's right. Thank you, Young Gamora. Yes. Oh, that's right.

She's the, she got the funky. Well, because she's an alien, obviously, but she's got the weird ears or something. And it's, yeah. She's talking to Stano's out in the shallow lake water thing. Right. And the, what should we call it, dimension, whatever it is. Yeah. And he goes, everything or whatever the hell he says.

I don't remember. Right. Well, anyway, there's that. So that's coming. We'll watch for your review, Brian, on the other side. And it's funny. You were talking, we watched Transformers this weekend for FilmSack. And when I pulled up IMDB to pull up Borderlands to,

to remind myself who's in it. One of the first things that's promoting is a brand new Megan Fox movie called Subservience, where she plays an AI Android. Oh, goodness. And I had not heard anything about this, but apparently, there you go.

Wow. We were just talking about how we haven't really heard anything much from Megan Fox. Acting-wise, it's all been tabloid gossip of who she's with, who she's breaking up with, and that sort of thing. Who she's slobbering with on a,

stage. Her and, was it Machine Gun Kelly? Yeah. Well, that's what grows Scott out the most. So, yeah, subservience, which is a thriller that comes out in in a who knows when.

Well, watch for it. Put it on your calendars, everybody. Watch for that. Yep. Nice for that one. We got a little note here from Jesse, the trash guy. Jesse, the, the, the, what is it?

Jerky Jesse. Jerky Jesse, yeah. He makes amazing jerky, and we haven't had some in a wild jerk, Jesse. So don't be a jerk, Jesse. Make some jerky. Yeah, it's because the price of meat that he used went way up. I wonder if that's a petered out or leveled out, I guess is the word. I think so.

He'd have to charge us a lot more for the jerky that he was sending us. Well, he wrote in about this issue about White Castle. Because the guy has made legitimately good jerky, I'll take his food advice. Here's what he says. Hey, sausage and bacon. Dirty Jesse here. I'll let you know. White Castle is disgusting, and I wouldn't feed that shit to my dog.

Love the show, though. All right. No White Castle, guys. No White Castle for him. Yeah. Sounds like it's as bad as, well, we know it's bad. We've eaten it. It's not great.

Yeah, yeah. We know what it's for. It's for you're drinking all night and you need to soak it all up. So that's a great way to just eat 50 tiny burgers. What can I, what can I do? to get rid of all the alcohol in my system very, very quickly. I know, I'll have some White Castle. It will come out very, very quickly.

I had a friend in high school who claimed that the only thing that would work for him to stave off like a bad hangover or something is he would eat a whole loaf of, or most of the loaf, a loaf of white Wonderbread. Which sounds so awful. That sounds so awful. He's really thinking literally, this. stuff is just going to absorb all the alcohol. So instead of it being in his bloodstream, it's going to be in his stomach absorbed into what he's visualizing as a three quarters of a

loaf of wonder bread in his stomach. His name was Cheney. We called him chain gang. I don't know why. Okay. And I wonder how he's doing. I wonder if a loaf of bread every couple of weekends did things to his physiology. I don't know. Yeah. Wonderbread isn't bread. It's cake. Right. He has a bland cake. It is cake. It's cake sponge. You know, I've known so many people that have a hangover cure, quote unquote, hangover cure, and every single person has a different one.

There's no one that's, you know, the logic of, well, alternate water and drinking. Like if you have a drink, have a big glass of water in between each drink, and that'll help. Because it's the shrinking of the hangover is caused by the shrinking of your blood vessels in your brain or your head that are. Oh, right. constricting the flow of... So you don't have one that you recommend, like something that works for you? No, just drinking a lot of water, just alternating water and booze. But the ice cubes in your drink don't count, people.

Yeah. But a woman I knew Kim Ashley, she claimed it was drinking an ice cold Coke, but only out of a glass. Like you can't go to a fast food place and get a paper cup. It's got to be out of a glass. So you need to go to some place where they... serve you a nice cold fountain coca cola that that sounds like malarkey to me oh yeah 100% yeah i don't i'm trying to think what you would think was happening there like i don't know what did she psychosomatic like maybe there's some bit we're just thinking where where because she had had a

glass of ice cold coke at one point and it seemed to get rid of her hangover that she she locked in the two i don't know was her last name placebo by chance believe it or not it wasn't but might as well okay could get that changed at the courthouse um yeah that that coconut water too is supposed to help like just basically hydrating is what's what's gonna help you yeah what can get you hydrated quicker i guess is the is the answer so you probably do like an electrolyte filled sort of right exactly yeah all right well if i ever get drunk i'll keep all that in sure sure uh we got another jessey wrote in or at least i think it's jesse it's little muffled, so it might be Freddie or some other name, but I think it's another Jesse

wrote in, and it's funny because it's about name confusion, and I'm a little confused about his name. But anyway, this is a follow-up about name confusion that we had on the show. Here's another Jesse. Hey, Scott and Brian, Jesse from Charlotte, North Carolina. You heard Jesse, right? You hear Jesse? I heard Jesse. Yeah, Jesse from Charlotte, North Carolina. All right, here we go. Hey, Scott and Brian, Jesse from Charlotte, North Carolina. Chiming in on the whole Rue McLan thing from yesterday. A good friend of mine was well into her 30s before she realized that Lou Phrygno's first name wasn't

Lufa. Love the show, though. Lufa Rigno. Lufa Rigno. Yep. Oh, my God. Love the last. That's amazing. Yeah, so if any of you did the Ruma Planahan, like I did,

then maybe you did a Lufa Rigna. Lufa Rigna. Rigno. I feel like, A, that's probably going to become a show title. Yeah. And B, that show title might become our drawing prompt. for the day. Oh yeah, we have a new...

I want to give credit, too. See if I can find that guy's name real fast. It's super buried now in the chat in Discord. Yeah, I'm never going to find it. If somebody can remind me of his name, that'd be great. But somebody in the chat had suggested, hey, why don't you make your daily drawing prompt that day's title? The title of that episode.

It's freaking perfect. It's like the most genius idea. I don't know why we didn't think of it. So whoever that was, huge credit to you, and someone will find it and tell me. But yeah, that might be today's. And also, for all the kids at home, Lou Farragno was a bodybuilder who was also deaf

who played the Incredible Hulk in the 70s, right? Yep. Just in case you didn't know that is. Back when the Hulk was David Banner because they thought the name Bruce Banner sounded too gay. Yeah. Someone in the chat says he wasn't very nice at a convention. And I always wonder, okay, forgive me here,

but if you're at a convention and you see Lou Farragno, and you go, hey Lou, I love your work. And he doesn't acknowledge you. It might be that he doesn't hear you. You know what I mean? Like he doesn't, you're not in his direct vision. I'm not saying, I don't know one way or the other if he's a nice guy or not. I have no idea.

But, you know, Stephanie, we need to hear the story, I think, to know exactly. Oh, wow, Shogu even confirms it's true. He's not a friendly duty conventions. Why even go to conventions if you're not going to be friendly, though? What's the point of that? Like, don't even go. invite the Jaws guy and he can he can cart you around on his little scooter like Scott and I saw when he was at the Star Trek convention yeah exactly except he died but we'd love to have him yeah we'd love to have him again that guy was great that card will still move I remember how so do you remember though we were at that Star Trek convention and he's at his little table and nobody's at his table I felt so bad Jaws from from Moon Raker and uh it's got to be some crossover there's got to be some Trek fans I mean the guy the dude from Battlestar getting all kinds of people.

Yeah, yeah. The guy from the soup Nazi had more people. Right. I felt bad for him. That sucks. All right. Maybe he needed the, put the silver teeth back in.

That would have helped. Maybe that was it. Exactly. All right, you guys, one final note. This is just a tease because it's not up on the store yet. But I have a new thing. I'll give you a copy so you can see it too.

I love these. I want one of these things. I haven't even seen it. Oh, look at this. yeah so by popular demand uh the blue prophecy blue shell you may remember i did one of these years ago uh it used to be just in like kind of simply form of you know in fact here's the old one chat you can see kind of what it used to look like uh but it's still got that little the last shall be first and the last uh little uh scriptural reference on there the new one is just a whole new

drawn one i drew it from scratch um and created here's a bigger version of it created a new play mat So this is 24 inches by 14 inches, great big, thick mat that you can put under your keyboard and mouse or use it your next tabletop experience or play cards on or whatever. Your Magic the Gathering game, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So if you are a fan of Mario Kart and you hate the blue shell as much as me. For feet's sake, you should play dungeon murder on this thing. Absolutely, dungeon murder or any other game that somebody in our community made.

And it's a big, big, large format. they're going to be nice and affordable and going up on the store shortly or just waiting for my daughter to get in the the proof to make sure we're good to hit go but anyway it's going to be awesome watch for that coming soon to a browser near you all right very very cool keep your eyes on frogpants dot shop uh all right we're going to get done away all up inside of it yeah that's what we do we like to do that hold on here okay here we go create group all right discord do your thing all right he's incoming that means it's time for us to be ongoing ladies and gentlemen help us welcome to the program one brian done away hello brian oh hi scott and brian happy moon der you too you know um before we get right into it scott you know you talked about this artwork for the um for the blue shell i

forgot, I haven't, I don't have it down here because we're waiting for a frame for it, but you should show off the artwork for the thing you got me for my birthday that you made me. Oh, right, I did. A really cool stitch. Did you show it off that? I have not shown it to anyone yet. I wanted you to get it first, obviously, because I, you know, figured that would be best. But let's see if I can find. Show that damn thing off because it is gorgeous.

There you go. Look at that, folks. It's a, I'll hear Brian Dunaway. You can see it, too, if you want. Hold on. One moment, please. He's just weird. Every year.

Always require a use of a frame. Always require me to go out and purchase a frame. Like, he's the only person who gives me something that makes me have to go out and buy something. Oh, I love that. One of these years, I'll just ship it in a frame. But for now, he gets a rolled up tube. And it's hard, it's easier. Did you, when you, by the way, when you sent it in the tube, you just basically put in the tube,

seal the ends and gave it to the mail box or, you know, the, you gave it to the mailbox. Here you go, Mr. Mailbox. Well, we do, so we did, okay, so I. signed it rolled it up put it in the tube put smoked it wrapped it what else did i do oh and then we i actually printed the label and wrapped it i think yeah okay but you didn't um the shipping label when it arrived yeah this is something i've never seen the post office do but it arrived with a um yeah it is it's like a giant 3d printed stitch that i'm looking at and saying oh man part of the it arrived with the rubber band and tongue depressor so the tongue depressor almost like it

basically to keep it from rolling around so they took the tube oh yeah yeah rubber band and then put the tongue depressor through it so it would stay flat i never did that no that that's super interesting it was like wow i can't imagine something like that would have made it through the mail anyway so it must have been something that they had it but that's really really that's weird so i guess it keeps it steady so they don't have to worry about keeping the You're rolling around the truck or whatever. You have to scan it. They don't want it to roll and move.

I don't know. I can't help it to think of like Seinfeld. Like I could see one of those tubes going to get the brakes or something and the truck is on fire. What's the episode of the mail truck got all on fire and stuff. That's right. It was because of Kramer's new stripes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He made the lanes wider.

that's amazing well it was super fun to make and uh it is so cool happy to do it uh it's funny i did like two months ahead because i got i know you were so excited about which is great i mean it's so i was like oh man i'm in the mood let's do this and then i'm like and now i have to hold it forever and you resisted the urge to do to like keep working on it like i would if i knew there was something that was like oh i'm giving this to scott in two months i printed this chani and oh I'm going to go back in and do some more printing on this. Oh, I screwed up the face more.

All right. Well, I'm going to cover up the face and start over. Oh, dang it. Now this is all screwed up. That's funny you say that because I did go back in a couple of times to just see if I wanted to change anything. And I'd be like, no, I like this. I'm cool. And then I would close it down and go back later.

I do that a lot, though. I'll go back in and check. But I often don't tweak it. It's usually like, no, I'm happy with where I ended it. Don't terminate or two special edition of that business. That's right. Yeah, I don't need no. I don't need some, yeah, I don't need extended Cameron

freaking director's cuts that make the movies worse. Hey, Brian, done away. It's good to have you here, man. I hope you're well and ready for a little game. Brian, will you present us said game and tell us how this works? Yeah, okay. Welcome to the morning half-ass is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you to the answers.

I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers. Three of which are correct and three like White Castle burgers are so, so very wrong. depending on how confident they feel with the category they can provide one, two, or three guesses. But if any of those guesses are wrong, you get zero points for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, two right, gets you three points, and three right gets you five points total. If you get whoever has the most points after three rounds,

wins the game for their contestant. And here are the contestants that the two of you will be playing for. Scott, you're going to be playing for Tristan in Brisbane, Australia. Nice, Tristan. Not your son, just different Tristan. Good name. It has a very different, Tristan, of course. Brian, you're going to be playing for Brad here in Arvada, Colorado.

Oh, Brad. Look at the big brains on Brad. I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure that Brad I picked up once in my lift, and he's like, oh, I was wondering when we were going to get the Brian Abbott lift. No way. That's awesome. Took him up to get drinks up at this dining hall up the way who was having a beer fest. And super, super cool guy.

If it's who I'm thinking of, because this Brad, I've not seen at any of our Tadpool events or anything. No, you know all the brads. Yeah. You might know, I'm sure there are a few more breads. They're definitely more brads. There are definitely more brads in Arvada, but I don't know about that many brads in Arvada in the TMS. That reminds me. I could tell you something real quick.

I went to the doctor the other day just to follow up appointment, my six month. And so nothing weird. And I go in there and they got a new receptionist, and she's kind of a hoot. She's an older lady. She's cracking me up the whole time. everything she said was funny and she goes scott johnson that's a common name and i went i know but she has that kind of personality that was like it's affable it's not offensive at all and i said i said yeah pretty common there's a lot of us and she goes

yeah but you know you're probably you're probably all right i said actually just for fun google my name let's see who comes up first and she's like oh i'll bet it's terrible it's probably a billion of these and i said just do it she looked it up and i came up first and my photo from a nerd tacular up there she goes why are you for and she was blown away by that she could not believe it all the Scott Johnsons yeah there you go nicely done

she couldn't believe that her results were that and I'm like it was like this moment of like I don't care about this is not important to me but it's fun to put this lady the sarcastic lady in her place like oh you know of all of the common name versions

then by the way you did you did you say you're a real hoot. Yeah, I should have, dude. I should have said, hey, listen, you're a real hoot. Pull my name up. It was great. Anyway, sorry, not to delay the game.

I didn't mean to do that. That's all right. We'll talk about the prizes after the game, but let's go ahead and get things started. I've got three categories here for you. Remember, six answers, but only three of them are correct. Starting with this one right here, now every year, Frito Leigh does this thing called Do Us a Flavor, right? Where they have people submit flavors, flavor ideas, and then they,

actually release i think three or four of those flavors and let people try them and then vote on them all the ones i get are feet flavored well look for that one in this list which of these are actual contest finalists in the frito lay do us a flavor contest uh your choices are cappuccino greek town euro wasabi ginger rosemary yam bacon triple stack and peppered earle gray. Three of those are real flavors. Three of those are not. Oh, my gosh, dude.

Cabuccino. What the fuck? Cabuccino. All right. I'm going to go with anybody ever sent us any of these flavors, but yeah, these are ones they've done. Three of these are real.

These flavors are really gross and three of them are fake, but still really gross. I'm doing two. I'm doing two because the first answer never has to be all in, you know. Ryan did two as well. You guys both did two. And oddly enough,

you guys both did the same two. You did wasabi ginger and bacon triple stack. So you're either both getting points. We're going to win or losing. Neither of you are getting points. And I'm happy to say, Wasabi Ginger not only was a finalist, but actually won that year in 2017,

do us a flavor contest. However, bacon triple stack, as good as that sounds, like pancakes and, bacon. Never was a final list. Oh, I'll lift. Damn it. Yeah. Cappuccino, Greek Town

Yiro, and Wasabi Ginger. Greek Town Hero. Greek Town Hero. I love that song. He had a hip, except we used to sing it, how's it go, how's this start out? He was, he had one guitar. Oh, yeah, we'd say he can't, with his pants hung low, we'd say.

I don't know why we said that. It's a high school thing. Probably good. Probably did. All right. Well, that's all right. Let's move on to question number two. And we're going to look at these great states of ours, 50 of them to be specific.

And which of them don't have any national parks? Your choices are Tennessee, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Ohio, New York, and Oregon. Three of those don't have a single national park in their state. Oh, my gosh. these are hard no who doesn't have a national park come on well at least three states uh i mean one of these makes me want to click it but it feels like a trick um i'm going with these two i don't know dude freaking some of these i know do have them but there's a couple here there's this is a tricky one i

guess it's a very tricky one uh scott you went with tennessee and Ohio. Brian, you just stuck to Oklahoma. Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Where the wind rolls, red, red, red, red, bear. Go to the bathroom? All right.

Tennessee has the Great Smoky Mountains, unfortunately. Ohio has Cuyahoga Valley. Oregon has Crater Lake, which means you're three that don't have any. Our Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and New York.

Damn it. Brian, getting one point on that one. Damn it. Take it. Oklahoma, I feel bad. You guys should have stuff. That's a bummer. I wasn't positive about New York.

I wasn't positive about Oregon. No national part in New York. State parts probably, but no national. I almost went with Wisconsin and New York, but they seem so like obvious. This is how you get us. Sometimes they are obvious. Sometimes they are obvious. Maybe this one will be obvious.

Which of these are ghosts in the Harry Potter books? Which of these are introduced as ghosts? in the Harry Potter books. Your choices are homophobic author. Nope, sorry, that's not one. The short Dorman, the swollen surgeon, the fat friar, the gray lady, the ugly prince, and the bloody baron. Three of those are actual... Going in, I thought it was going to nail this one, but you started listing these, and I'm like, I'm not even sure.

Right. Turf wizard says Talia, that's good. That's appropriate. it. Pretty much, yeah. She sucks so bad. Jesus. You know what I was thinking today?

Can I just tell you a thing real fast? Like Stephen King makes scary books. They're there to scare us and freak us out. But in his real life, he gives to kids charities. The guy's super generous with his time and his talents, like all that kind of stuff. A very, you know, good tolerant human being. J.K. Rowling makes these rolling, sorry, makes these books for kids. but then in real life she's an ass

like what's the deal there between those two chuckleheads like why can't we all be more like let's all be more Stephen King and less just kidding rolling anyway the worst of the JKs

and I would say I would say ooh man it'd be tough JK Grammer and J.K. Simmons the best of the J.Ks oh those are the best JKs for sure those are the best JKs yeah nice guys

and won's an excellent actor. And that's no J.K. Yeah. We're not J.K.N. with you, buddy. All right. Oh, you guys locked in. Hey, let's see. Let's get some points and see who won this damn thing.

Now, the Grey Lady is a nickname for the New York Times. But it's also a ghost. Oh, is it? Also a ghost in Harry Potter. The Fat Friar. Yeah. Also a ghost in Harry Potter. Uh-huh.

The Bloody Barron is the other. Oh, shit. yeah short dormant is not and the ugly prince is not but uh i thought the bloody baron was from the witcher three what am i thinking of charring someone in there is apparently from the witcher three people were saying that in the chat that it's a quest line in the witcher now that's why i thought it wasn't it also also in harry potter uh bobby and genie i think both got it bloody baron gray lady fat fryer yeah uh so uh good job to you guys in the uh in the chat uh the few of you who knew this one. Unfortunately, that means Brian wins with one single solitary point.

Unfortunately. Unfortunately, Brian wins. I'm sorry. Fortunately, Brian wins. You know what? These would be great Harry Potter titles. It'd be Harry Potter and the swollen surgeon. I like that, right? It'd be great. And the short dormant. And the short dormant. Oh, wow. All right. Yeah, you deserve that. Dude. You were conservative in your play. It paid off for you. One point is one point. You beat me. One point. That's all it takes to win. All it takes, listen, four people in the history of Jeopardy have won with $1, and that's just, you know, a win is a win. Congratulations, Brian, and congratulations, Brad here in Arvada, Colorado.

I could just open my window and shout these codes to you, but I'm not. I'm going to mail them to you. You want a copy of Heimrich and 7-62 Hard Life on Steam. I know nothing about either of those games, but boy, oh, that ain't sound fun. I don't either. But don't worry, Tristan in Brisbane. you're getting a copy of Gift of Parthax. It's crazy because I don't...

I don't know any of those. 7-6-4 hardline. Yeah, neither of... None of these. I don't know what any of this is. This is an unusual day because usually me or Dunaway or both will know at least one of these games

so we don't know these things. I'm sure they're great though. Good job. Sure. Sure. There's a just fine. Yeah, well done. Congratulations.

To both of you, really. And Dunaway, congratulations to you. being a part of today's good times I feel like I'm a winner yeah plus you like good times the comedy the TV comedy yes yes the comedy I like the good times comedy from the 70s yeah it was a comedy

and I also like the what's happening also from you know an older comedy yeah what do you know it was dynamite it was dynamite well not not what's happening I'm rerunning over there yeah he's great hold on let me ask you a question isn't there a new cartoon

a new cartoon that's about that family or something isn't that thing? They're working on it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not released yet, the wizard. I don't think so. I'm curious about it. Did they get J.J. Washington or whatever's name is? What was his name? Yeah, Jimmy Walker. Jimmy Walker.

Jay J.J. Washington. You nailed it. Is it? Wait, who is that? Oh, that's Welcome Back. Cotter guy. It was Washington. J.J. Washington? Right. Yeah, he was pretty jive. He was a jive. Turkey. He was there. He had to provide their street. Yeah.

Street cred because Horshack and Vinnie Barbarino weren't doing, bringing that. No, I will say this. I'm not even like a big fan of John Travolta these days. He's fine. I just don't think of him anymore when I think of movie draws or whatever. But I saw a picture of him at the Olympics. He's 70.

He doesn't, he looks amazing. He does. He's got that bald head now. He's rocking the Ibit. I know he's color and all that. He accelerated to a point and then he just kind of plateaued right there. Like he stayed, stayed put. Yeah, he's in great shape.

He colors his beard. He just looks better than I expected. So good luck to him. He's still vertical. You can't complain. Yeah, what else can you do? Well done, done away. Anything else you want to say before you kick your ass out of here?

What do you think? Oh, that's rude. I had a good time over the weekend, play some more pinball. So that was always a good time. And I played some Miss Pac-Man with my youngest son, Ethan. And I was all smack-talking. And turns out he's better than me. It miss Pac-Man.

A shame. A shame has fallen up on my head. It is shameful what you've done there. You need to maybe... But your children are supposed to beat you, right? That's something that's supposed to have. Is that a... You want to...

Actually, yeah, you want to celebrate when they beat you. You don't want to, you know... That's what good parents do. Right. You're a good parent. I'll give you that. We'll see you later. Kiss our butts.

All right. Well done, everybody. Time for a little bit of news time. Hey, Brian, it's time for the news brought to you by. The Instance 2.0, it's just what, I don't know what idea that means, Scott. Help me out. Well, that's interesting. You ask. The Instance 2.0, what does that even mean? Well, if you've been around the network for a long time, you know about the instance. It was a thing I started in 2006. And then in 16 years, I ended it. And then we've had like a two-year break. And I've decided in my infinite wisdom and also my fanboyism. that it's time to bring a form of it back. So there's a lot of changes to it.

I put up a whole video explaining the whole thing on YouTube. But if you've missed it somehow, go seek that out at frogpance.TV. But if you'd really like to get subbed up and ready to go, go over to frogpants.com slash instance. And the instance 2.0 will be a monthly show. It will start right around the launch of this new expansion later this month. And it will feature myself and my new co-host on the show, Bobby Frankenberger. What? The guy's a freak. He still plays wow constantly. That dude is always doing mythics and he's a monster. And I'm very excited to have him on board. He does. The science of wow is his specialty. Anyway, casting Jesus, I believe is what he's known as. That's right. Certain circle. Never forget. And so that'll be tonight or sorry not tonight. That'll be later this month. And we'll let you know the date soon because that's something we'll have solidified here shortly. But

Anyway, I'm excited about it if you miss it and want to get your wow on. Oh, also we're accepting new people into the Corps Guild, and that is growing like crazy because now the game is cross-faction and cross-server. So no matter where you are, you can be in the guild with us. You don't have to be on Earthen Ring to be like we did for AIE. You don't even have to be Hoard. You can be... You don't have to be Hoard anymore.

That's right. The boy needs therapy. I mix those two songs up. let's get with this one story here we got with the we got some olympics coverage coming your way here yeah french pa i feel so bad for this guy because it's this whole legacy in one image oh no have you not seen this gosh dang it i watch i watch the the female pole vaulting oh man i'm loving gold zone on on the peacock app like it shows you um between two and six different games going on all at once but then it zooms in on one where something exciting is happening

when they're close to the finish. And so we watch, you know, basically it's like, oh, well, you get a taste of handball while you're watching the tennis match or a little bit of this soccer game while you're watching this other thing. And the women's pole vaulting was amazing. It was Ukraine and Australia in a, man,

such a close finish. And watching them kind of, you know, go over the back. Incredible stuff. Yeah, it's there, I mean, they've done, I think Peacock is killing it, to be honest. Because they're using it not just as, hey, here's where you can watch it. They're like,

like you said, here, if you're just here for some quick highlights, we have that. You want to see what's happening live. We have that. You want to see the entire match that you missed because it was in the middle of the night. We have that. And you can choose even between the TV version where you get the announcers, or if you don't want, if you don't care

about that, that's fine too. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you want. I'm trying to find a video that isn't some commentator Well if you go to the link The YouTube or the The X I know you gotta go to X That's fine, it opens up

Yeah so this is the first time you've seen this guy do this deal It's the first time I've seen this Oh man Where is it here Oh this poor guy Oh I don't see Oh it's been removed on my side Oh, really? Okay. Let me give you, let me

Yeah, it says Mine says it got removed. I don't know why. I've seen it a thousand times. I don't know why I got removed. Probably because you've watched it too much. That's enough of us. You're done. Yeah, that's enough of that. Yeah, here you go. Try that link that I just gave you and see. All right. Let's see here.

Oh, this will probably work because I see the preview. All right, here we got. All right, here you got chat room. The sound effects. I mean, this is so great. Yeah, look at him going, and then and that lost him a medal. Yeah.

It's a real bummer. But gave him a lot of dates. Oh, yeah. He's in, he's in demand now. He's that Olympic Village. There's a line now for his cardboard bed.

Oh, that's a poor guy. I just feel bad because it's like, it's one thing if you have a wipeout in your event or whatever, but man, you snagged on your knee. I mean, you already was, he kind of already was hitting the bar before.

Yeah, his knees hit the bar. His knees hit the bar, right? Yeah. He needs hit it first and was probably going to bend it and bounce it off before his unit. You know, this Anthony Armadi's got a big unit. By the way, yeah, Anthony, how do you spell that? How do you say that last name? Amarotti.

Amarotti, okay. Poor guy, but also maybe strap that down next time, man. Get some... Yeah, touch. Come on. Yeah. You don't want... I don't know how well you can run and pull vault with it tucked, though.

There's the problem. Yeah. The Olympics, the gift that just keeps giving. We got this story. McDonald's employee has been sentenced to prison. Geez. For setting a dumpster fire, not a figurative one. A literal dumpster fire.

Yeah. Not like the regular, on the regular, we have figuratives all the time. But this is an actual dumpster fire. Actual dumpster fire. And he did it because he did it because he did it. he said the restaurant was too crowded. So this is kind of crazy. We swing over to Georgia at a McDonald's,

or an McDonald's employee working at a store in Savannah, Georgia was sentenced to five years in federal prison after pleading guilty to lighting a fire in a dumpster to clear out customers because the restaurant was overcrowded. Joshua Darrell McGregor, sounds like a serial killer. It sounds like a member of Red DMC. Oh, yeah, it kind of does.

My name is Darrell, and I'm here to say. McDaniels, right? McDaniels, that's it, yeah. Yeah, Joshua Daryl McDaniels would be a member of one DMC. That's right. Anyways, 34, working at a restaurant when he became frustrated, the store was too busy, according to the attorney general's office. Quote, intentionally setting a fire in an effort to shut down damage or damage someone else's property is inexcusable, says attorney Steinberg.

I'm attorney Steinberg. Joshua McGregor will have substantial time to ponder his next prison employment options. He lit a piece of a piece of cardboard on fire, threw it in the dumpster outside the restaurant that was already full of cardboard, another flammable materials. He ensured the fire ignited before going back inside the restaurant, according to press release. Okay, I'm going to put myself in his head for just a second. If I was overworked and just flat, just destroyed by how busy we were, how slammed we were is the word we would use back at Chi-Chi's. I assume everyone used slammed. Sure.

slammed yes um this seems like a in my head i would maybe in my duress i might think this is a low low stakes way of causing an interruption without without too much damage because it's a closed thing they're going to have to clear the restaurant the fire department's going to come but during that whole thing i get to just sit back and collect a paycheck yeah you know and not have to sling big max yeah so i would i would have probably felt like he did i don't i can't say how he felt but I would have felt like this wasn't a big deal. Although he's 30, he should know better. If I was like 16, maybe, I would go, well, it's just a dumpster.

You just light it. It's already self-contained. Big metal bin. It's going to, right. What are we going to do? Lose some trash? Oh, no. Yeah.

Probably won't spread, probably. Probably not. But I hate this, so I'm going to do it. Yeah. Yeah, he actually has to go to jail. Definitely not defending this guy, but we're trying to like say what would make somebody think to do this. Yeah.

I don't think it's, I don't think it's purely, like in this case, I don't think this is just pure maliciousness. This is somebody who's feeling like he's at the end of his rope

and doesn't know what else to do. I mean, I don't know. Again, he's going to jail because that's what you do when you break the law. But he's probably regretting this. Did he come back in

and like pull the fire alarm? Like, oh, good question. Doesn't say in their article. That seems like, it seems like the part two to this. Because if you just go out and set a,

dumpster fire behind the McDonald's, it's going to be a while before somebody discovers it and says, oh, hey, you guys got a fire outside. When I worked at a computer company, we had a guy in our shipping department who eventually got caught on camera, but we suspected he was stealing stuff and we weren't sure how he was doing it. So entire laptops that go missing, you know, computer components, RAM, hard drives, that kind of stuff would just, little bits would be missing from inventory. And most of the time something goes missing. It's not. that unusual. You're just like, oh, we overcounted or undercounted or, you know, somebody shipped the wrong thing with the guy's order or whatever. And you just kind of mark it up as

a loss. But there were some patterns emerging. So they put cameras in and we found out what he was doing. This guy was taking like whole computers and components at the end of the night when nobody else was around in the back. And he would take it outside and hide these things in a dumpster. So he would tuck them way down underneath boxes and stuff in the dumpster. Shut the dumpster finish up everyone lock up go home and then he would come back at about midnight with his buddies and they would clear out

whatever they put in the dumpster take it and then go fence that stuff that was crazy you thought yeah that felt like I was at a crime syndicate when that was going on and we were everybody was mad because we didn't actually know that he put cameras up but the that the owner put cameras up to

find this guy and so nobody else knew there were cameras like all over the place and everybody was pissed we're like we don't mind that you're doing surveillance you just need to tell us that you are so that we don't you know come out of the bathroom picking our nose or some shit right yeah the worst thing you can think of is coming out about getting caught coming out of the bathroom picking you I mean that was the worst I was doing then yeah but anyway the uh yeah don't steal things and put him in the dumpster all right he went to jail for that I think because he was 18 so he he got adult

treatment and I think he spent I can't remember it wasn't a long amount of time it's a small crime I mean it's what larceny or whatever yeah yeah petty petty theft I don't know I think it has to hit a certain amount he may have been over whatever the limit was it was like thousands and

you know five six thousand dollars worth of equipment I don't know damn damn let's take a break when we come back from this break Bobby Frankenberger the aforementioned we'll be here to talk about his time as Jesus and now as a science expert of wow. Can't wait to hear how that all comes together magically between the two.

It's going to be great. He'll be after this break. This break is a song. And Brian will play this song. Brian play the song. You know, back to San Diego for this one. An alt rock band named Los Saints. They have a brand new debut full-length album. It's called Certified. It's really, really good. And this is the lead single off of it. The song is called Hard. Here is the band Los Saints and Hard. All right. Here it is. We'll be back in a moment. Stay tuned. I don't care, I know you're not listening. I don't mind, I can't start from slipping. What you want, what you want.

If you stay far enough, far enough, help me see again who you are. Help me see again who you are. A great lump of rock came with you. And it's traveling alongside you. And you're plinging to it for dear life. And I'm thinking, gee, I'm gonna go wrong with this. But it doesn't do a thing for you.

I don't care that I'm suffocating. I don't mind. I ain't contemplating. You could say what you want. What you want, what you want If you stay far enough, far enough Help me see again for you are Help me see again for you are

Help me see again Who you are Help me see again Who you are I It's only when you understand It's not to do a thing for you To let go in that

So every body's in this situation They're all completely They're all maybe straight to death as if we're going to condemn by a gun. Here we are all feeling out. There's still form and a heart when you try to get out by turning against it.

You're going to play yourself out and you're still made along with it. The sensible thing to do is to cut around and get it. Help me see again who you are. Help me see again

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Hello, somebody not Bobby. There we go. That would have been embarrassing. All right, let's get this going. We're going to get scientific all up in it. And here's this part of the deal. science Bob is hungry and the soup looks good it sure does Bobby Frankenberger joins us

oh his camera is so washed out at first it looks like he's naked from the neck down but he's not always comes in always comes in super washed out

yeah yeah there he is now you're looking good oh that nice that's excellent that's a weird thing everybody loves Logitech G Hub

yeah oh G hub's a mate what a piece of software Hub is. It's so bad. They're constantly updating, but never with the one update you would expect to have, saving your settings.

Yeah, or being good at what it's doing. It's funny because that company, Logitech, right, they make quality products. They make really great mice and they make good cameras. They make all kinds of really great peripherals. They're one of my favorites of all time. They've always been there for me. Their stuff lasts forever. And then their software is a shit-gibbon fart monkey.

Yeah, it is. And I don't understand why. How can they know, they have money. They can do this. Yeah, yeah. I don't get it. Anyway, let's get to have you here, Bobby. We're going to get right into it.

You sent me a little preview of the science for today. And I got all excited about it. But I'll let you introduce it. What are we discussing today? Well, have you, so we're going to talk about blushes. Have you ever thought about why you blush? I don't even know how often I do blush. Yeah, that sounds right.

Yeah, so we know. I don't know why. Yeah, exactly. So I think it's pretty pretty clear. Like, that's what blushing is. That's what blushing is. I don't know why blushing is. Yeah.

Yeah. And so that's a good question. You don't really have control over it. No, right? It just happens. It's not like a protection or a camouflage thing. It's not going to help you blend in if you're embarrassed. Like, oh, no, I'm going to. turn red so I'm less noticeable.

Exactly. It almost highlights that you are embarrassed. Right. Right. Yeah. Or that something is going on, right? So what, and a lot of things that you don't have control over, one of the first things that you think of is that it hints that there might be some sort of like evolutionary advantage and that's why it's done. But our cheeks flush when we're blushing and we, why should that happen? Why? Why should we blush at all?

It's also temperature increase. Some people technically don't have red cheeks when they blush, but it's still blushing if you have increased blood flow and temperature increased in your cheeks. But it's most common for that to be accompanied by color, right? Right, right, right. Well, there was a paper that was published by some scientists in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. and the title is the blushing brain

neural substrates of cheek temperature increased in response to self-observation So basically they were just looking at why do we blush and in particular trying to answer this question by looking at the brain and what's going on in the brain

when blushing occurs Right So It's not always when I just see a pretty girl at the mall Right No not always There's other reasons. Name some reasons why you blush while I go grab my coffee. Yeah, grab your coffee. Here, here, occupy yourself. Here's a toy. Yeah, here's a toy. Do what you

got to do. Think of one, Brian. Brian, what's the number one reason Brian might blush? I want to hear this. You know, that I will say the wrong thing or, you know, make a pun or a joke that falls flat and I'm embarrassed by that. That can be blushworthy, sure. Something comes out in a way not intended. It's like, oh, no, didn't mean that ah and it's too late yeah for me it's like um it's almost always a physical thing like if i'm uh oh i know i know one when i was nine or eight or nine and i was playing uh baseball and i went to i forgot to wear my i've told this story before but i forgot to wear my underwear to the to the game not a big deal you're a kid who cares right but after the game they said all right this is our second to last game we need to get our team pitchers done

everybody gather around and I'm like oh okay so we all gathered around and because I was one of the taller kids this didn't make sense though because if I'm a taller kid you put me in the back right but they I remember this because all of it is so spurned into my brain but they said Scott we want you down here because you're taller so we want you on one knee and then one leg up and in the so now these photos went out kind of like Elaine's nipple on the Seinfeld went out to dozens of parents who all got to see Scott's boys. Sneaky nut punch. Sneaky nut punch, yeah.

It sucked. And I guarantee you when that happened that probably the most blushing of my life occurred then. All the blood came to my face. Yeah. Which do you think would be more embarrassing, that or boinging it on a bar

that you're trying to jump over? Oh, gosh. I mean, I'm sure that guy probably, he's probably more red in the face for just being annoyed that this is all anyone talks about now. Right. Yeah, exactly.

And probably kicking himself that, and I might have won if it weren't for that damn weiner. Those pesky kids. Well, so the funny thing is that sort of, in a way, hints at why the scientists think that as a result of all this research kind of sort of points in the direction of what they think might be getting closer to. what it is that causes why we blush. And they think it's probably the result of whenever emotions are aroused, right? Like, so you're, you get a lot of emotional response to something, which makes sense. But they think also that it might not be the result of thinking about what other people are thinking about you, right? Like, and that's one of the two hypotheses that, that have been, that have been prevalent is that blushing occurs because of the fact that we are somehow sociocognitively aware that other people are observing us, right?

Yeah. But it's been a, it's been a debate. Some, they're kind of like two schools of thought on why, why blushing happens. There's that one. Because the, the thinking is that you would never blush on your own, right? Like, it's always going to be. somebody involved that was the thinking right but some some research has happened over the years that has suggested that well blushing can happen when you're by yourself um but but one of the criticisms

that that kind of research gets is is by virtue of the fact that you are studying someone who who you think thinks that they're by themselves don't they know that they're being observed so there's a lot of like how do we how do we nail this down it's really really difficult but what hasn't been done very much is looking at what's going on in the brain when blushing occurs. And that's what this study did. So the reason I thought it was the reason the headline caught my eyes. So the headline writer on this one gets a gets an A plus because that's their job is to get people's attention, right? But the reason I yeah. Yeah, the reason that caught my eye is because the thing that they used to the tool that they used or the situation that they used to try to induce

blushing is getting people to perform karaoke and then watch themselves afterwards doing the karaoke. So I thought karaoke. We like karaoke. I'm pretty sure this would make me blush because I do not like karaoke. I'm not good at it. You blushed when you did your B-52s. Well, and I so I probably did, but I sat and faced the screen away from everybody. Yeah. So I probably was, but you guys would have to tell me because I never looked at my own face during that. Well, let me ask you a question. You've seen the video of you singing that, right? I have.

And so, do you think, did you blush watching the video? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I watch myself, when I watch myself do, I can watch myself do lots of things. But that is real hard for me. Well, that's so interesting to me because here's what the experiment was. 40 participants, they were all adolescent girls between the age of 16 to 20. They said that the reason that they picked that is because adolescents,

and females are known to be or tend to be more self-aware and more sensitive to being judged by other people, at least culturally. So they wanted to be able to I guess,

I guess they were trying to set themselves up to get a more intense response since they were looking for it and because they only had 40 participants. So what they did was they had the participants sing karaoke recorded them, and then they had them watch video clips of themselves performing, which is why I asked the question that I asked of you, Scott.

And they had them watch those videos of themselves while they were sitting in an fMRI. This was a couple days later. So, like, there was a couple days that passed before they watched the video. Like, they came back, got in the fMRI and watched these videos. The songs that they chosen were chosen to be deliberately difficult. They chose, hello, by Adele. I thought it would be fun to talk to. to list these songs.

Yeah. But these were intended to be difficult songs, right? Hello by Adele. Let it go from Frozen. All I want for Christmas is you by Mariah Carey. Uh-huh. And all the things you said by a tattoo, I think is how you said. Tattoo, yeah.

Tattoo, yeah. The Russian, are they a couple? Are they not a couple? Right. The music video is them just making out the whole time, right? it pretty much is yeah in the rain the adele one in particular I can see why that was chosen because

it's a very drawn out weirdly timed hello from the other side yeah that's a good one got a big power a power high chord in it that isn't enough to shake anybody down to their timbers that's a good pick a lot of

high notes and weird changes of notes throughout the song wait can I let me ask you a quick question about this part of the study how did they it's an MRI so it's got that going on the whole time how do you how do you even focus or

I don't know how people do this beat yeah they put headphones on them I guess maybe they're bows this happened yesterday sorry quick side story I'm outside I'm listening to some song I think it was 311 311's last album in

2019 and this song's playing and this car some neighbor's car starts doing its accidental alarm. So it starts going, eh, eh, eh, and it was exactly to the beat. And my wife was so annoyed, because I'm like, listen to this. You've got to hear this. Listen, it's going to the beat of the car. You got to hurry up before they turn it off.

And she's like, this is the dumbest thing you're distracting you with. Anyway, sorry, Bobby. Continue. No, it's okay. So they had them watch themselves singing. They also, they had some controls. When you're setting up an experiment, you got to always wonder, what are the controls? So they watched 15 segments of themselves singing and 15 segments of other participants singing.

And the other participants, the controls, were broken up into two types of controls. The first one was participants who they were matched based on the participant's singing ability. So like they were watching someone else sing who was of a similar singing, who performed similarly to them in terms of singing ability. the idea for that was to be able to rule out second-hand embarrassment and that's a thing like you sometimes you get embarrassed for other people right so they wanted to rule out that that the reason they were seeing the blushing and everything wasn't just generally watching anybody perform poorly so and then the other one

was they had some some fake participants that were professional singers and so they wanted to rule out that that these people weren't just blushing by watching people sing you know and so they did that and they measured their cheek temperature for blushing and they did the fMRI for brain activity the results that they found some of them

were what you would predict but some of them were different I just got a knock on the door hold on hello hello don't be embarrassed yeah I see him blushing or maybe it's a shirt it's just a shirt it's my daughter Anyway, so anyway So we were Some of the results were predictable

What you would expect And some of them were not Hold on I guess I guess we're still needing something Sure That's all right This is dad You're texting me

You know you could have text me Without coming in email You text me Text me or I'm coming here In person to tell you that I'm texting you I love that That's a kid thing to do I love it

Kids rule By the way while I have this moment Bobby's girls are adorable He has the cutest kids Yeah My kids are very cute. They're very cute. I don't know how much of that is your jeans, though.

I'm not going to give you full credit here. How much of that is your... I get at least half the credit. Yeah, at least that. Or randomly, I could have none of the credit. That's how genes work, I suppose. That's true. Yeah.

Why don't we get a little extra science today? I like that. I like it. All right, sorry. Back to where you were. All right. Anyway, so, so, yeah, we have, we have... So some of the results were what you would predict, and some of them were not.

so the results were people who watched themselves sing uh showed um showed showed showed showed higher temperature increase in their cheeks than when they then when they were watching other people sing so you would expect that right more blushing when watching yourself sing than when we watch other people sing yeah and they actually saw a slight decrease in temperature when they were watching the professional singers which again they the the participants didn't know that they were professional they just saw that they were performing really well, right? So they were able to say that because of that,

that implies that there might be some self-related stimuli that like some awareness of themselves that might be contributing to the blushing. But they were able to rule out secondhand embarrassment. That's the whole point of them looking at that, right? Right. So then they looked at the brain, the fMRI stuff, and they found all sorts of different parts of the brain lighting up without, I could name all the different sections of the brain, but the real point, the theme of the sections of the different brains are they were very strong emotional processing centers of the brain that were lighting up during all of, when they were watching themselves sing.

parts of the brains that are that are responsible for strong emotions like fear and anxiety other parts of the brains that are responsible for managing adverse stimuli and pain in emotional regulation ways so like like the parts of the brains that are there are certain parts of the brain's responsible for what they think is responsible for willpower so that might be activating because it takes a lot of the way that they described it in the paper is you're faced with a situation that might make you afraid and want to flee, but you also at the same time want to keep doing it. Right. And we can all relate to situations like that, right? So those are parts of the brain that we're lighting

up. Also, just lots of fear and anxiety parts of the brain. And also in the cell, go ahead. I was just going to say, here's a theory. This is just based on just hopefully logic. But if you see yourself doing all these things, that is going to be everything firing. Because you're not just going, oh, what a cheesy song. Or, uh, what a cheesy presentation of the song. You're going, that's me doing a cheesy presentation of a song that's cheesy. And also, why am I moving my arms that way?

And what did I think my hair was going to look like that day? Why did I do that? was I drinking? Like you've got all this, I can see why all your brain would go, all the lights would go up. But if this is me watching Brian sing, I will have some of those, but not all of them, right? I would have more, though, than if it was a stranger. If it was Brian, I would go, well, because I have this personal relationship, some of the other parts of my brain are going to fire off because I'll be like, oh, I'm a little embarrassed for my friend or, or, you know, whatever it is. But if it's a stranger, only a few of these things

it pop like the song is cheesy and they're a bad singer and that's it because i have no other connection to them and so that's it that's to me is the interesting part is how differently you would view the exact same performance right based on those factors either it's you or it's someone you know or maybe even it's a famous person again more lights than if it was just some dude and a shirt you know just up there right right right exactly um but uh so there's another part of the brain that is responsible for the brain is fascinating there are all sorts of weird circuits that do things that we don't even think about but there is a part of the brain that that is responsible for and and it's known to process and understand one's own mental state right you can you can think about your own mental state right and there's a part of the brain that's that's known to be highly involved in thoughts and understanding of your own mental state and interestingly they expected that to be

a part of the brain that lit up during the FMRI study and it was not it was not seen to have activity during this blushing that was occurring during this and what they think that that suggests is that self-reflection about what others might think about you

might not be necessary for blushing to occur which is interesting because that's one of those big hypotheses that exists that I mentioned is that thinking about how others are going to perceive you was thought to be a big part of why blushing happens, this might suggest that it is not necessary for that to happen. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. And that it's really just strong emotion in what's known to be a social situation, because they do think social situation is involved somehow, but maybe not so much, maybe it's the They're suggesting or they're hypothesizing that maybe what it is is that being in a social situation, knowing you're in a social situation makes you sort of heightened to certain emotions and then more likely to have certain emotions trigger things like blushing because you're aware of being in a social situation. I think it's good to know this because it will help people be a little less hard on themselves. because these are natural, this is natural to feel this way, to be kind of hyper-sensitive of your appearance and others, right,

uh, other's impression of you or whatever, I think is, is a normal thing. I mean, obviously there can be extremes that are maybe unhealthy or whatever, but, um,

I don't know, it's good to understand that the embarrassment isn't actually, what you think it is, that it's everyone else thinking a thing about you, right? Because when you're embarrassed like that and you get the, you're flushing and you're thinking, well, obviously everyone thinks I'm an idiot.

it now. But really, it's just you thinking you're in it. Right? Right. I don't know why that. I think that's helpful. The spotlight effect, right? Yeah, it's helpful for me. It's helpful for me to think that way, because it makes me less, I don't know, not care less, but makes me less concerned about being open or, you know, saying things that would otherwise be embarrassing or something. It's like, nah, it's fine. It's just you, you know. Yeah, I think that you're right. And that was one of my takeaways after reading this was thinking first of all a lot of this blushing is happening

at the speed that they saw happening and it being processed in the brain was before conscious awareness and they also surveyed a lot of the participants and many of them responded saying that they were not that they did not feel

embarrassed watching it but they were still blushing so so so It makes me think exactly what you said, Scott, which is when we're, when we're blushing, like, that's a totally normal human response that we probably just can't help. Like, it's just something that happens when we're in these social situations. And also, even further, these are, and this is a part of, I think, a lot of selection bias that people don't think about. But all these people were volunteers, which also means they are the type of people that would be okay going to a lab and singing. karaoke in front of strangers right right so they're already people who might not be as inclined to be embarrassed but they're still blushing and still having these responses that we all think is like an embarrassing response right it's not it's just what it's just how people react yeah yeah well that's

interesting uh you know if you're all out there thinking well now i feel empowered to karaoke next time i go out with my friend and i don't just stave off the uh the embarrassed yeah and i don't necessarily necessarily have to be monster drunk to do it. Then maybe Bobby just gave you all an excuse to go have some fun. All right. Yeah. Bobby, always good stuff.

Tell people where your cool science podcast is so they can get it. Well, you can find my science podcast. Anywhere you find podcasts, it's called All Around Science. And it's all about science. It's in the name. It really is in the name.

Yeah. All around. Don't confuse yourself. It's not all around. It's all around science, but it's all around science. Not all around science. We're not going around a science. No.

It's just science is all around us. That's right. If that made you blush, then maybe get an MRI as soon as you can. Also, are you excited about the instance 2.0? Are you ready? Are you feeling it? So I suppose that's the other place you'll be able to find me soon, right? Yeah. You have no idea how excited I am.

And I think you should know because I've been telling you for the past week how excited. I can tell you just from experience through my Discord conversations with Bobby, he seems extremely excited. And I think that he's going to be the perfect fit for it and a nice fresh take as well. So, you know, I mean, I'm very excited. It's the kind of thing that I, I don't know, two years ago, if he said, hey, you think you'll ever come back, I think I may have answered that. Well, you never say never, but who knows, I don't know. It had to be the right situation, the right whatever. and right now it just feels like the right time

and Bobby felt like the right person to come in and tell me why I'm so bad at Mythics and everything else around the game. No, I'll tell you why you should come and do Mythics with me maybe because it's not as scary as you think. Yeah, but I've gotten a bunch of emails saying we should use that heavenly music every time you... Yeah, go watch that video.

I was so... Anytime you're introduced like your walk-on music. So that night, that announcement went live that you published it, I was on my way to go to because I text you a picture of me. Me and Stephanie went out to brew at the zoo. It was a brew event.

But we were dropping our kids off at her sister's house. And so I was being socialized. I said to everybody there, I was like, look, Scott just sent me a video. I have to watch it right now. I'm going to be rude. Just ignore me. And so I put headphones in and I watched it on my phone. And I laughed

very much out loud as soon as that part of the video. That's awesome. Everybody stared at me like I was an idiot. No, I love that. Here's that sound, by the way. We're going to play it every time. Maybe not. We'll see.

But Bobby, it's always good having you. Thank you for being here. We'll see you in a couple of weeks for another episode of Bobby's science moment. And we'll see you then. Bye. All right. I don't know why I was so quick there at the end. Hey.

That's what you do. It is. I've been trying to be less of that lately, but today it didn't stick. You know, I just don't want to. I don't want to. I don't know. It's a, it's a thing that I guess I'm known for, but now I'm trying to break expectations, you know? I don't know. Who knows? I'll probably keep doing it. Let's, let's get out of here. It'll get weird if you don't. Yeah, I agree. So tonight, if you listen to the Monday show last week with my daughter Carter and I, you may have heard a commitment that. I promise. Yeah. She's going to do my, she's going to do makeup on me before the show. We are sticking to the commitment. And that's, is happening today. Not only am I going to show up to the show, all made up. She's going to do it on camera as a separate thing. Yeah. So if you guys want to see the process of me getting makeup, today's your day. And it won't be live streamed, that part of it, but it will be on YouTube

after the fact. So we'll just have Kim film it or something like that. I don't know. There you go. Anyway, that's today at 4 p.m. Mountain Time. So check that out. Brian, you got anything going on? You want to mention? I got nothing. I'm hoping to, you could It's been such a tumultuous couple weeks with COVID and people in the house and guests and stuff like that. I'm trying to get, I've got a stack of Spider-Man parts that need to be airbrushed, and I want to try and get some of that done today. Because I've got, there's like an airport circling a bunch of airplanes that all want to come in for a landing and get 3D printed and painted, the whole bunch of statues that I really want to do. and I can't do them until I get to I get done with Spider-Man.

Nice. It's your own personal diehard too. You got these planes. I just have to axi. That's right. And that reporter dude is up there getting tased by Bonnie Bedelia up in the bathroom and I just want to get something to landed.

That's right. According to the Ghostbusters, this man is indeed a penis. All right. Or has no penis, right? Yes, it's true. This man has no dick. That guy was the biggest jerk.

All right. that's all well and good, but before we leave today, we like to do it with a song, and I think you've probably got one there ready to fire. I've got one. Friendly Sleet 66, A.K. Mike wrote in and said 24 years ago today, I walked down the aisle with my wonderful wife, Judy. Since then, she has supported me whenever needed, as we learned more about each other and raised two awesome kids. She loves Rush, so any cover of them would be great. Thanks for 24 great years, Judy. And thanks also, Brian. Well, you're welcome, Mike.

That's awesome. That's great. Congratulations, you, too. For sure. This came out 19, well, on a tribute, 40th anniversary tribute to Russia's farewell to kings. The album came out in 1977, so this came out in 2017. This is a cover by the band Big Rec, and this is a great version. It starts out very similar.

You're thinking it's going to be, oh, I know this sounds so much like the original, Brian. I don't know why you're playing it. Give it a second. Trust me. Big Wreck and their cover of rushes closer to the heart. Excellent. We'll see you guys tomorrow for a Wednesday edition, Tuesday rather, edition of TMS. And the men who hold high places must be the one to start

To mold a new reality Closer to the heart Closer to the heart The blacksmith and the artist Reflected in their heart Closer to creativity Closer to the heart Yeah, closer to the heart

The soul with new mentality Closer to the heart. Yeah Closer to the heart Yeah Yeah We're going to be able to be. You can be the captain

I will drive the time Sailing into destiny Closer to the heart Yeah Closer to the Oh Closer to the heart Closer to your heart.

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