The Morning Stream - TMS 2698: Needa Person

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Skateboard for the Lord. Is it Too Early to get a Sand Clamwich. The Shape of Coke Zero. BladeAlienPredatorRunner. Fans of Fanning are Fanning their Fannies. The breakup Cardigans. Sphereception. Chick Fil A No Gay. Brian the Drag Queen Lyft Driver Trivia Host. I have a particular set of Bluetooth trackers. Whales are all head. You know what I do give a damn my dear. Reality Bullshit. Star Wars Voltron Gamers. Deep fried innovations with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On a clear summer night, you can see the birds getting ready to fly south for the fall weather. And if you listen closely, you can hear some of them say, sign up for the TMS Patreon at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, skateboard for the Lord. Hey, is it too early to get a sand clam witch? The shape of Coke Zero. Blade alien predator runner. Fans of fanning are fanning their fannies.

The breakup cardigans. Sphere reception. Chick-fil-A-no-gay. Brian the Drag Queen Lyft Driver Trivios. I have a particular set of Bluetooth trackers. Whales are all head. You know what? I do give a damn, my dear.

Reality bullshit. Star Wars Voltron gamers. Deep fried innovations with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Nom, num, num, num, num, num, num, num, num, num. There's a lot of guys that can skateboard real good, but they're not doing it for the Lord. It doesn't matter how good you are, is what your attitude is. That's what God really cares about. You skateboard for him and not to show off in front of your friends.

So I skateboard for the Lord? You do everything for the Lord. You mull the lawn for the Lord, wash dishes for the Lord. Mother of God, it's all toilet sounds. The morning stream. Well, of course, I am the supreme being. I'm not entirely dim. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for August 29th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson, and that is Brian Ibit.

Hello, this is. This is Brian Abbott. We're here. We're going to get a Thursday going, you know? Yeah. Our last broadcast day until next Tuesday. That's right, because Monday is a holiday. It's Labor Day. And, you know, you can't, you can't drink all day unless you start first thing in the morning so that's right you're going to labor that day at all you got any plans to labor probably i probably will labor that day i don't know what i'm going to labor on but i will absolutely labor that day my guess is uh your wife may have something for you to labor on or my wife might have something for me i don't know she might have some of you i've been good the last couple weeks like uh fixed an outdoor sprinkler break i fixed a shower

installed a new um like we had a little drip coming out of the uh the bathtub five And so took everything apart and put a new cartridge in there, a new thing to fix it. Of course, I have that business still to fill up that the hole in the wall that I need to fill up. What my laboring might be is on something 3D for the house. Yeah, you talked about doing like an aliens, like Mistromo kind of look on ancient cover. Oh, no, I thought I showed you what I decided on. Oh, no. What did you do?

That's great. The tape deck from the Milano, Star Lords ship. Oh, that's awesome. The tape deck, I've already got the little volume meters that are going to get plugged in there. That's great. That's so you. This is perfect. The cassette will be in there.

Like the awesome mix volume one is going to be in there. And so. Good call. I like it. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be, you know, his is wide. Mine's going to be arranged vertically. I'm just going to, you know, design it in 3D, put it on a piece of wallboard that is coated with some wood panel shelf paper to make it look like the one of Milano.

Well, let it be known. There's never been a hole Brian couldn't cover and cover well, all right? Covered it real well. That's right. It's got to cover it because, you know, that's what we do here. Yeah. Now, that would be one. I would actually, well, I mean, maybe you're already going to do this, but I think you should film all of this and make a YouTube video out of it.

For sure. Yeah. No, there's, I've got three, three of these things in mind that I want to take from drawing stage to model, to, to modeling stage, to printing stage, to finishing stage via YouTube. And it's, uh, it's the tape deck behind me, um, a shelf thing that I want to do first, a little shelf bracket mount that they don't make anymore. And it's like, I need more of these. So it's going to be a fun one to do some, some, um, weight testing on. And then, uh, a little TMS related. Chotchky device that I won't say any more about, but something very cool from the TMS Meme library that will be referenced. Ooh, the vast meme library. We got a lot. The vast, we have a lot, yeah. Could be bees, could be phasers, could be. It will not be a fish sandwich, I'll tell you that.

Okay, no fish sandwich. We've eliminated that one. How about as a thing, it's black, things aren't, well, these aren't supposed to be black. It's not like that. No, no, no, not a black tomato. No, no, not a hero something. A little model of Palladine making love to retator. Oh, that's a shame.

Scooters, who knows. Oh, gosh, there are so many. So many that we could do. And you and I've talked about another project that could involve a lot of those things. Yeah, I could, for sure. Well, that's great. I look forward to all of these projects as they move along. Yeah.

We got a bunch of stuff from you, the home listener, and we're going to play some of this stuff. We talked about synthetics in alien lore and how I was. always just a little confused as to why Waylon Utani doesn't just use more synthetics to get the work done instead of putting people through it. And, well, he has a thought. Hey, Scott and Brian. It's all the TMS.

Just listening to the show and talking about why Waylon Utani doesn't use androids for all their mining and stuff and why are they killing off humans? Well, basically, I have a really dark thought about this. is that you have to make an Android.

You have to use resources to make an Android. Humans make themselves. Humans self-replicate. Therefore, they are more disposable. An Android dies. It's ripped in half by a xenomorph, or gets crushed in the mind. You're lost, you know, tens, millions of dollars, whatever, you put in an Android. Human dies, well, let's go get his son.

This is a dark take. It is a dark take, and it's delivered very humorously by our caller there. Yeah, it feels like he's just all out of Fs to give there about this dark take, but it is dark. It takes a billion dollars to make a new synthetic. It just takes a little batter to make another human. So go for it. Yeah, and there's always some kid, someone's got a kid that's now coming of age that you can now stick in the mind. Phil full of propaganda, make him excited about going off world.

it's going to be better than here I mean it's a decent Decent theory It is It is But they sure would have like a much better time And I think this was You know

What we were talking about is that You know How about a ship just all synthetics Out to go retrieve Retrieve some black goo Or retrieve a face hugger or two They're all in the same mission You don't have to worry about

Oh this is a conflict of interest I don't know about us What are we doing to humanity It's like nope We have all been pro-graped out Richard with 11 facehuggers, and we shall come back to Earth with those. Yeah. Why didn't they, why wasn't that ship full of ashes in the first movie?

Right. Instead of all these humans that had different. Instead of a Ripley and a bread and a Dallas and a. Yeah. What's the point of that? Uh-huh. And that's a grad. I don't know, oh, that one's going to bug me because that's true.

Why do you need more than one ash anyway? You got mother. Yeah, you have the ship and you have ash. What all else do you need? I guess they need to land. So, but that's, That's fine. Have him pilot the little shuttle. Have him go down there.

Maybe you need the, maybe you need, you need someone to, you need human to get impregnated by the alien embryo. That's true. You can't just bring an egg back, right? They just bring back some eggs. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if those need to be kept near a pylon or something, right? Keep them refrigerated.

It's like, you can't build more alien eggs this far from the pylon. Must build more pylons. Yeah, that's a really good point. because then you get HBO's raised by wolves. Good point, Mason. Sure. Another Ridley Scott produced product. I loved that show while I was on.

Went too fast and got canceled early. I watched season one and just could not bring myself to watch season two and maybe I need to give another chance. I really liked it. The problem is it doesn't end satisfactorily enough for it to be canceled and feel good about it. So it's one of those shows where when you hear it got canceled, it's like I can't speak for everybody

but when I hear a show's been canceled and they're like two seasons leading up to it I'm very slow to want to see it because I'm like well they didn't get to go as long as they wanted and this isn't going to be a complete story you said 1899 is good we're talking about the pre-show 1890

yeah not part of the Yellowstone series by the way 1899 don't be fooled don't be don't be tricked it's very different all right here's another one about stingers at the end of movies we were talking about how far back did that go who did it first, that sort of thing.

And this guy's got a theory. This message is for TMS. You were talking about Stingers at the end of a movie. The first movie I remember Stinger is, the Muffin movie from 1977, when that big monster guy first stepped through the end of the screen thing, I'm here because he was actually following the whole time the movie. Thanks, bye.

It might be correct in terms of the first one. I mean, I tried to find... I don't know where airplane versus... I mean, somebody pointed out something sweet. That's right. Somebody pointed out something from the 60s that had a stinger at the end. Oh, really? Before airplane or the Muppet movie.

But I don't know what order Muppet movie. I mean, those were both like 1980, 1980, 1981, right? Yeah, that sounds about right. 79, somewhere right around there. So according to, here it is, the first general release film to feature a post-credit scene is the silencers released in March of 66. This must be the one you were talking about. That's the one that, yeah, yeah, silencers. You know, we all know that film.

Yeah. By heart. Yeah. Oh, yeah. With Dean Martin. I mean, who can forget? Is it a silent film? Ironically, no.

No. It definitely is not. Let's see. And then 79 is the next one. Sorry, Muppet movie was the next one. And that was actually 79, not 77. He's got his dates wrong. But that's fine.

Airplane had it, of course, an 80. Master's the universe had it in 87? I don't remember that. Really? Oh, it's when Skeletor's head emerges from the water at the bottom. Oh. I'll be back. They even use the I'll be back name.

A thing. Rude. Interesting. Anyway, so there you go. The beginnings are not as far. I thought I was going to open this up and go, oh, they did something in the 30s. Right, yeah.

Gone with the Wind. Actually, had a surprise stinger ending when Clay Gable says, oh, actually, I do give a damn. I don't think about it. I've had some time to think about it. Because film in a lot of way, not replaced, but it came in at that, you know, after play.

right and plays always had encores of some sort right right you'd think that movies would do that I guess some did with music but none of them did with like post-credit scenes also they threw away all their all their bloopers back in the day that was another thing I was right right oh my yeah be fun to Wizard of Oz complete with the blooper reel during the credit speaking of which by the way yeah uh Wizard of Oz so um we got to go see postcards from earth at sphere yeah uh for TM that during the TMS Vegas this last year um Next up, there's, obviously there's an Eagles residency, or I don't know if you call it a residency since it's not a hotel, but an Eagles run that's happening next month in October. They go the whole month, just the whole month?

Well, September and October. So next month and October. Ah, gotcha. Eight weekends, I think, and sold out immediately. It's like, oh, that would have been a fun show to see, but not for the three to $400 per ticket that they were asking for it. next up at sphere is after that is going to be i know claire is going to hurry up and get her tickets for this one it's going to be the youtube concert like a film that was filmed with special cameras for the youtube concert special cameras for the for sphere for the giant

screen at the sphere so was it filmed at the sphere to be then shown in the sphere yeah it's filmed at sphere to be shown at sphere weird um yeah so it is uh like that sounds oh really cool like it's it's paired down from whatever the show is two and a half hours down to an hour and 15 minutes or something um so you get a you get like their best songs or whatever i don't know how they decide and then the um the the obviously it takes advantage they're using the special camera so it takes advantage of the full the full inside screen of sphere wow It really wants me to put a thaw in front of sphere, and I'm not going to do it because the place is called sphere.

It's just sphere. Yeah, it's just sphere. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. After that, and this is why it came in with the Wizard of Oz decision, they are, this is rumored, but a reliable source with the rumor, that they're working on a version of the Wizard of Oz to show in sphere that has been remastered digitally. and configured for the giant screen. Okay.

And you can kind of imagine what it's going to be, right? The initial shots in Kansas and black and white are just going to be kind of in a little typical square, like kind of what they did with the beginning of Postcards from Earth. And then as soon as she steps out of the house in Munchkin Land, it's going to kind of grow and fill the entire screen. Yeah, that's cool. I wonder what takes to reformat like that. That's crazy. It is taking something like a billion dollars for every minute of footage, and they're going to do 80 minutes of footage or something like that.

So it's going to be an $80 billion, $80 million project? Maybe $80 million. It's got to be a million. It can't be billion, right? It can be billion, yeah. Million I could see. Yeah. $80 million.

A million dollars per minute of, let's see here. Let me see if they've got $80 million project will adapt Wizard of Oz to show in Sphere. Wow. it's a little less I guess a little less than 80 because it's longer than 80 minutes so it's it's it's close I think it's more than two hours isn't it I think so I think so it's probably costing you about half a million per minute something like that it's going to be 80 minute it's going to be an 80 minute film so it's going to be a million dollars a minute oh they're only showing 80 minutes of the movie they're only showing 80 minutes of the film yeah not weird yeah what do you cut out for that I don't know that's an interesting thing you know what do you edit do you edit out the whole there's some there's some unnecessary uh weird it doesn't the dorothy and the the flying monkeys and the poppies i don't know you maybe go straight to you go straight to the uh um straight to the the witch's castle instead of having the whole poppy dream sequence or something so i'll bet they blow that whole storm up on screen big right oh yeah and they've got the wind effects that they can do

in the building so that can be incredible how much do you think this is um gonna cost or a cost you as a ticket buyer do you think that's here that's the thing the the dumb thing so the u2 thing i was like oh this sounds great until i heard the price we saw postcards from earth i think for 60 70 bucks yeah something like that um the u2 thing is a stupidly priced 130 dollars um to watch to watch to watch the U2 movie. Okay. Which might just price me out of contention. I think, you know,

give me the 60 to 70 range and I'm still in for the U2 thing. I'm still in for the Wizard of Oz thing, but you put it over $100. I can't justify, no matter how amazing the screen is, I don't think I can justify seeing it for that much. You know, maybe we can get some sort of deal on group tickets if we decide to do it for TMS Vegas and get, you know, a block of 30 seats for under 100 bucks each for the um that'd be great for the you two thing if we

want to do that but so they'll be there the well they seats for a live show are well over 100 bucks uh it whatnot but this ain't a live show no but what is the point of or sorry what so come come next april what do we know is showing then is it every all of these things are an option then like you could have times for the youtube thing times it'll be the you two thing I don't think the you two thing I don't think the, I think the Wizard of Oz thing is not till 2026. Oh, it's a ways off. All right. Yeah, yeah.

But the, here it is, the immersive concert film VU2, co-directed by The Edge. Opening September 5th, the film is billed as one-of-a-kind cinematic experience focused on the iconic bands inaugural run. Octum Baby Live at Sphere. And let's see if, if this talks about prices. Because it's, this one they've actually got, well, I guess, I don't know, they had it for postcards from Earth, but you've got different prices, depending on which section you sit in. 100 bucks.

Okay, so the cheapest tickets are the way up high and there are 100 bucks. Might be still okay up high. I think I'd still do 100. I do it. 100 is the bottom line for me. And that better include fricking fees. I don't want to have like $100 plus $35 in fees. Yeah.

That's a good point. You're already spending, you know, 30 on. lift to get you over there or whatever you're using. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll see what happens. Yeah, something to think about. Anyway, I'm sorry. That the Wizard of Oz Talk kind of took me took me over there for some. I'm really curious about, I'm curious about that just because that seems like a crazy amount of money to spend on a film up res. That seems crazy. Really, yeah. Especially an old, I mean, I know it's an all-time classic. We'll be forever. Blah, blah, blah, but damn, dude, 80 million dollars. And it's, 80 million. It's,

It's pretty expensive. They can probably, well, who knows, if they can recoup that. That is, you've got to really appeal to the younger crowd who would much rather see the Matrix redone like for the interior of sphere or something like that. 100%. On the topic of Sandy Clam Chowder, my wrestling name in high school, but also the subject that we talked about a couple of days ago, Dave from Boston wrote in.

He should know. He's from Boston. Clam Chowder is a thing there. that part of the country. It's very, you come chowdha. Yeah, it's into it. It's spelled like that, yeah. It makes you have to take a wicked piss, as they say.

Pack, they can't have it yet. Get some chowder. There you go. Here's what he says. Hey, Scott, lifelong resident of Boston and authentic New England clam chowder should not have significant amounts of sand where it is noticeable. This means the clams were not washed properly. The hand, or so used the hard shell,

clams around New England have less, or often have less sand, and they are easier to clean. I had the top rated clam chowder. in Boston last weekend and the top rated in New England a few weeks ago. No sand, he says. Good. I think people outside of New England may believe it needs sand to show they used real clams or the local clams are difficult to clean. But the lesson, do not get advice about authentic New England clam chowder from a Californian in San Francisco.

Wow. Keep on TMSing, says Dave in Boston. All right. I'll take your advice. Interesting. Yeah. You know. I don't know.

There's a great place on Fisherman's Wharf that serves clam chowder in a sourdough bowl. And it's awesome. And I don't remember ever getting sand in that. But if there's a place, listen, get this out right now. Share this with everyone you know. If you are a restaurant and you are trying to make your clam chowder feel more authentic by putting a little pinch of sand in there, stop it right now. Quit it. Hopefully nobody's doing that.

But if you are, stop it. Stop it. It felt like the one I went to was doing that bastard. Really? It felt like it. In Seattle? The Seattle one? No, the one in Fisherman's Wharf, the one I had.

Oh, the one of Fisherman's Warf. I thought it was the Pikes Market when you were talking about. No, no, no. That one, I don't remember if I even had Clam Chatter there. I'm actually, I'm gun-shy on it now because the sand was so bad that time in San Francisco. I'm like, I'm never doing this again. You're putting sand in your freaking soup and acting like it's normal? F, that noise.

Yeah. That's that. All right, one more message before we move on. This is another thought about Alien 4. A lot of alien talk. Bringing it back around, yeah. Here's what Jason Reef says. Brian, fantastic job on the Alien FilmSack bonus show.

I was looking forward to it. Did you guys ever notice that Alien Resurrection is written by Joss Whedon? We did know that. And we talked about it a bunch on Filmsack. And what, sorry, and that the mercenary crew feels like a prototype for Firefly. There is a determined captain, a dumb, strong guy, a badass woman, and Ripley is unstable like river. I would love to have seen Alien Resurrection

with the actual cast of Firefly, says Jason. Yeah, I never really thought of it that way. It's an interesting parallel. Yeah. Makes sense, though, right? You write what you know. There's a doctor, too, right? Or no, my misremembering resurrection.

No, that's three. Yeah, well, definitely in three years your Charles Dance, but I thought there was a doctor in the crew that went with them. Maybe not. Maybe it was just the mercenaries. I can't remember. Was it the nervous guy that we were talking about pre-show? Maybe that was the doctor.

Maybe he was the doctor. I should have mentioned this too earlier, but I'll mention it now. Dwayne Coyle pointed out that thanks to the 20th anniversary DVD slash Blu-ray editions of Alien, the deluxe box, whatever, we now know that Alien and Blade Runner take place in the same universe. I think didn't Bradley Scott say that at one point anyway? was like who yeah i think it was it would this did come from ridley scott and he he you know said that uh or i think he said something he alluded to it he says i could see these two things being in the same universe and then he just went through and did it when they had some of the bonus material

the um there was some prometheus stuff that talked about peter wayland actually working for um uh terrell the terrell corporation before he formed his own company oh man so it's like Oh, how cool is that? It's pretty cool. The replicants were basically a, you know, a beta test for synthetics. Yeah. Yeah, no, I like that. I wish they'd, maybe I don't wish this.

I know, yeah, that's the question, right? Like, after hearing that, do you want the movie that connects the tissue between the two? And maybe, maybe that's what Alien Earth does for us, the TV show. Could. Yeah, we don't know. They have Earth in the name, but we don't know nothing else. Right. Real quick here, the doctor, you're thinking of it.

and resurrection was probably Brad Doriff's character, but he was evil and dumb in that. Yeah. Remember he would be like he would get all poetic when an alien would show up and he got pulled down some hole or something. Like him or what happened there, but yeah, poor Brad Dorff, he'll be all right. Poor Brad Dorff. Yeah. My least favorite of all the alien movies and I still would give that one a C plus, B minus.

Yeah, it's still a good time. It's still a good time. Yeah. I don't hate it. I don't hate any of them. That's the way you look at it. Yeah, exactly. If you said to me, Scott,

if that's the worst one and I still consider it better than average, better than average film, then that says something for the franchise. Yeah, and Hammond, the Predator thing was already, I mean, they have AVP movies, so we know those are part of the same universe. I don't know that we ever see that crossover again unless... Predator Alien Blade Runner.

Right, because Predator took place in the 80s. So, I mean, Blade Runner sits right in the middle, between the predator and the um uh and the alien franchises so you know me again again we're looking at you alien earth if you're going to if you're going to do any sort of connective tissue and it can just be subtle it doesn't have to be uh here's roy batty 2.0 in alien earth no we don't need any of that you don't need any of that i don't know what's it going to do yeah we don't know what time frame that takes place either uh we do know this though the um uh jeff earth Jeff, freaking Dan Trackenberg

just confirmed that he's doing another Predator movie this one set in the future it's got one of the fanning girls L fanning I think I can't remember the other cast they announced a few people can't remember anyway

I'm really looking forward to that and Fetty Alvarez who made Alien Romulus I think we said this on the show before but has said he would happily work with his friend Dan on a crossover a proper crossover and I would watch the shit out of that

oh hell yes like up till now you asked me about AVP and I'm like but you tell me those two are doing it and I'm like yeah and I'm I'm in yeah did you ever see the Cloverfield Lane 10 Cloverfield Lane still haven't seen 10 Cloverfield Lane still haven't seen it it's excellent well I mean

it's I don't say it's excellent it's very good I have to get around to it it's very good because of Mary Elizabeth Winstead and John Goodman it's not good because of the aliens or the weird monster stuff. Do they show? Do they show a mom?

Okay, they do. I didn't know if it was one of those ones where it's like, we think there's one out there, but we don't know. The monsters are coming to Mulberry Street or whatever the alien film without an alien in it. Yeah. Oh, whoa. Blade Runner is the same universe as total recall according to that 90s Canadian TV series? Really?

Well, according to which 90s Canadian TV series? I don't know. cool says something about a 90s Canadian series. DeGrassy Junior High is my guess. That's where that came from. Yeah, that's what connects the two. Weird. All right. I mean, I wouldn't, it was called Total Recall?

It was a Total Recall. I didn't realize there was a Canadian TV series for Total Recall. I remember the Colin Farrell remake, but I didn't remember a TV series. I mean, the Total Recall original story is a Philip K. Dick thing, so is Blade Runner. But

the other two don't have any connection to that so you'd have to someone would have to overtly somebody like ridley scott who controls an IP or something would have to say yeah these are all connected i think that's going a little far though you know that is going a little far let's connect every single sci-fi thing ever yeah i don't want that in my life uh all right we're going to get to some news items here today it's time for the news and it's uh going to be playing a little clip here here it is time for for the news brought to you by. Yeah, it's going to be Coverville Day today at noon, which is in just under two hours. Is that right? Yeah, look at that. Just, I'm sorry, just over two hours

from now. Celebrating the birthday is the 50th birthday of Nina Persson, or Person. I don't know how it's pronounced, actually. The lead singer of the Cardians, I can round to that. She's also done a lot of solo work. She was with a band called A-camp. That's very good. A lot of great covers that she's recorded but um of course covers of cardigans and um and stuff like that so look for that today as well as the little one set tribute to uh Greg kin who gave us the song jeopardy the redall yankevick song i lost on jeopardy was based on as well as a classic that you might not know by its name called the breakup song but you'd certainly know the song I'm a bar too here what do we got uh we had just broken up an hour before uh uh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I didn't know that it was called that. They don't ride them like that anymore. That is the killer hook right there. Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-huh, uh-oh. I didn't know it had a name even, so this is good. Called the breakup song, yeah. Wow.

All right. Yeah. Sounds like a nice lineup today. It'll be a great lineup today. Great kin, Nina person, the cardigans, A, camp, all that stuff. Nina person sounds like you're saying you need a person. I need a person. Yeah.

Hello? Hello? I need a person. I need a person. Is there Anita person here? It's totally a moe phone joke. That's good. All right, Brian, make room for another streaming service. Chick-fil-A, you know, the chicken people. Yeah? They plan to launch a streaming service with original shows, according to a new report.

That's right. You too can subscribe to the Chick-fil-A streaming channel. Fast food giant Chick-Fillay Is it April? It feels like it, right? Chick-fil-A has ruffled feathers over reports claiming the company is working to expand its chicken sandwich and waffle-fry empire into the entertainment space.

What is waffle fry? Oh, because the waffle fries. I thought maybe it was another restaurant. Okay. I thought maybe it was like, they also own waffle house or something. Oh, yeah. No, Waffle Fry Empire.

Chick-fil-A apparently moving quickly to create its own streaming platform with a slate of original and licensed content according to variety and deadline. Pretty reliable sources on this stuff. The service won't just be chick flicks either. Get it? Chick flicks.

Chick flicks. It's very creative, whoever wrote this. The company has reportedly been in talks with various Hollywood production companies to create family-friendly, mostly unscripted original shows. Mostly unscripted means a lot of reality bullshit, and I'm not happy about it. A lot of reality shows, and family-friendly

means no gays. None of them gays in there. None of M. Gies on the Chick-fil-A channel. That's right. Chick-fil-A, no-gay. Yeah. Variety reported Chick-fil-A has already secured a game show from Glassman Media, creators of the wall.

I don't know what that is. Have you seen the wall? The wall is, yeah, that's your, who's your dude, Hardaway, Chris Hardwick? It's basically a giant Pachinko machine, and the balls start at the top, and they bounce down little pegs. Dik-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Rand land down the bottom for different. dollar amounts. And whether you get a question right or a question wrong means you get money

added or taken away from your score. It says here that, so there's some game show there. Also says a 10 episode series by the talent agency Sugar 23, whose CEO Michael Sugar produced the movie Spotlight and 13 reasons why. Yeah, it's a pedigree. Spotlight's amazing. Spotlight's great. Reports of the Chick-fil-A streaming service came as an unexpected bombshell to many skeptics on social media. You don't say. Please, please. let's report on what social media thinks of this. I hate that. Yeah.

Other companies, including Starbucks and Coca-Cola, have already made the leap in June. The Coffee Giant announced its Starbucks studio project to create content, while Coca-Cola has already released Christmas films for Amazon Prime Video, one of which stars Academy Award winner Octavia Spencer. I didn't know that at all. The shape of Coke Zero. I can't wait to watch that. It's going to be really, really good.

Beyond food, Brian, this is fun for you. Lyft, the ride chair people, last year released a seven-episode YouTube trivia game show called Lucky Lift, hosted by Bob the Drag Queen. Well, why didn't they tap me for a trivia game show that takes place in a Lyft? Yeah, why didn't they ask Brian the Drag Queen? He could have done it. Exactly. You know, I'll put on some makeup and a wig, whatever. Sure. I just can't imagine. I mean, here's the deal. There are people who didn't think Apple could do could do it. All it takes is money, right? So if you have a bunch of money and you throw it at

projects that are good and you pay for, you actually are willing to belly up for the quality content, you'll get some. I don't think that that part is that crazy. The part that makes people hesitant is because the Chick-fil-A famously, at least its owner, is a bigoted a hole, butthole, and he donates, you know, millions of dollars to anti-gay things and all that. So there's that. So then you worry. well is this all going to be like you know it's it's going to be um uh the touched by like it's getting touched by an angel level level stuff maybe yeah i mean they so far that the fact that this they're they've got the dude from spotlight and 13 reasons why that gives me

yeah hope because those those aren't like you know those aren't like shove it down your throat kind of things those are good those are good movies so i don't know we'll wait and see yeah a food A fast food thing, it feels just like a bigger leap. A tech company? Sure. Makes sense. Even Starbucks, they released albums. That was such a heyday, great time at Starbucks.

It was when they were actually had. And what was it? The Hear Music Project. And you could get music from at your Starbucks CDs kids, those compact disc things. You could get them at Starbucks right at the stand. And it was original music. It was indie artists that they found and that they, produced and then great cover

albums that I got as part of that every year. So Starbucks making that leap and maybe that's what I need to look at because Starbucks in essence is a fast food place. It's just a coffee fast food place. Yeah. And in their case they're just working with Prime anyway so they're not even doing their own. You don't even

sign up for theirs. So you just watch the shit they made. That reminds me. Do you remember in the 90s? Did you ever play the seven-up spot game? No. No. All right. So on the 16-bit consoles. I also never played sneak King for the Xbox. Oh, I like.

Sneak King was actually all right. It was pretty good. Was it really? Yeah. Yeah, it was actually a pretty good stealth game hidden inside of a terrible PR move. It was actually all right. Starring this guy right here. That's right.

Look at him. I have that game somewhere. Buried in a box somewhere. That guy exists in my house. Yeah. Wow, okay. Yeah, it wasn't the worst thing ever. But the seven-up spot game was actually quite good.

It was a great platformer, and they tried to make a mascot out of that stupid spot on the... It was like Rayman kind of thing, right? Like a platformer where the dude is a spot in his legs and arms can go do things separate from his body, or am I putting too much Rayman memory in there as well? Too much Rayman. His legs were attached, so or his arms, but he... If I remember right, and I played a ton of this recently, for Play Retro, but he's basically just

kind of a Mario rip-off. Okay. So, run around and do Mario shit. But it was actually pretty good. Does he get power-ups if he drinks a cherry seven-up or something? I can't remember. There were, you did collect like bottle caps or maybe whole bottles of soda or something like that. I mean, it was pretty blatant.

I mean, the loads, or not load screen, but the main menu screen was him surfing on a bottle of seven-up. Like, it was pretty egregious product placement. But this, so, So what they're doing at Starbucks and Coke, that sounds right to me. Because those guys are just making content.

That's different than having a whole streaming service while I will subscribe. And that's what makes this Chick-fil-A thing weird. But we'll see. You know what? I'll do your seven-day free trial and see what kind of nightmare content you make. I'll do it. Sure. Sure.

We'll talk about it here on the show when this happens, if it ever does. I'm already on the page for Lucky Lift subscribing so I can watch this. this business. Excellent. Later. Excellent. I'm sure Uber's scrambling to get theirs out as well.

Oh, I'm sure. Yes, it's a race to season two. We found a new way to catch thieves. A woman sends herself an Apple air tag to catch male thieves. This is pretty great. I'm glad. This is great.

This is pretty great. Tired of being the victim of replaced male theft, a Santa Barbara County woman laid her own trap to catch those responsible for ripping her off. the unidentified woman kept a mailbox at the Los Angeles, excuse me, Los Alamos Post Office in the Santa Maria Valley, and has been the victim of mail theft on multiple occasions, according to the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office.

To stop the theft once for all, the woman decided to ship herself an Apple Air Tag, a small keychain-sized tracking device. We all know what those are. And then waited for thieves to take the bait. On Monday, Sheriff's deputies responded to the Los Alamos Police, or excuse me, post office to meet the woman after her mail was stolen yet again, this time with the air tag included.

So now they're able to track the thieves. Deputies traveled to Santa Maria where they located the suspects and the victim's stolen mail, the tracking device, and all additional pieces of mail from dozens of other victims are also recovered, and those guys are busted. That's a great way to do it. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, I love it. And the only thing you've got to worry about is, you know, some employee of the post office who has their iPhone out at the time,

and it says, has been near you for the last hour that is not registered to your account. Yeah. Because they will do that. I've driven somebody from Fort Collins down to Denver in my lift. And they had an air tag. Maybe it was even no as an air tag that they just had registered to theirs. But it noticed that there was an air tag that was following me.

Oh. And so it alerted me on my phone. It's like the anti-stocking kind of thing. I didn't know. I guess I did know they did that, but I hadn't heard of anybody dealing with that. Yeah, I actually got to see what the experience was like from the stocky. Yeah. Here's a recommendation.

Yeah. I went on that cruise to Alaska, right? And we took air tags. Bought them for the trip, in fact. Yes. So I was like, all right, we got one in the big bag and these two little ones. I think we had four total. And they're great.

Here's the problem. When you had Internet, it was amazing. when you didn't have good internet or good satellite tracking it was a nightmare and turns out cruise ships have terrible connectivity so there were times where it would be like

we would take off from shore and it would say oh shit your bags are left on the thing you've left yeah right see you check your phone it's like oh it's right it shows these dots on the dock are we sure we got our bags and Kim's like you're looking at them

they're right freaking here they're right in front of us I hated that That drove me crazy, so I guess they're only really great if you have, like, good connections and... Yeah, don't do it on a, like, a cruise ship, that's going to be one of your bad times, like, going out to another country where there's spotty internet. Maybe that, that'll be a problem as well. But I have a four, I bought a four pack. I've got one in my bike, in my car, in our, the luggage that we check, and then the luggage that, um, my computer bag.

So it's like, so if somebody, if anything happens to any of those, Like my bike gets stolen, my car gets stolen, whatever, I can track it all because of that. Yeah. If I was ever going anywhere sketchy, I'd strap one to my inner thigh or something like that. So your family could find it? Yeah, they could find me. That's the first place people are going to look, though, Scott. That's the problem.

The first thing they're going to look for is your inner thigh. Yeah, they pat you, the Italian guy who looks mean in his suit will pat you down. That's right. He'll fill the little nub and go, hmm. Kim was going to call and say, I'm going to find you. I've got a particular set of Bluetooth trackers, and you can run, but you can hide. Make no mistake, I will find you.

Yeah, she's going to find me. She'll sound just like William Neeson doing it. Let's see here. Here's a quick story. RFK Jr., now no longer running for president. No. Throwing his cookie weight behind Donald. Yeah, which is probably to be expected.

Yeah, yeah. I was never really buying that he came from. I can't imagine him saying, hey, I can't imagine him saying, I'm going to throw my support, my endorsement to Kamala Harris. And then, and if he did, I could see them going, okay, maybe, yeah, maybe don't publicize that. Thanks. Yeah. Also, there's some kind of, there's some legal, not that anyone in politics cares about legal anymore, but there's some legal reasons why an endorsement can't equal a position or a job. and oh really yeah so you're not supposed to do that and he called both camps and my understanding is from what i read an article on politico they was it was a politico whatever it was raw whatever was sure they said that he or they're basically saying that he had tried to call the harris campaign

and they just straight up ghosted him ignored him really yeah okay because they're like we can't Asking for a position in exchange for an endorsement. Yeah. And now he's already got one as part of the transition team for Trump. And I don't think it's legal. I think it's illegal. Also, Cheryl Hines, slap your husband around. What's going on?

I mean, somebody needs to grab Cheryl and say, what are you doing with this guy? Yeah. Larry David would have been a better husband than this guy. Yeah. You can always see the, you can just hear the music. You can hear the music when he gets up on stage. Bairn, how's it go?

Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Dillal, D-Di-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-R. All right, anyway, he, uh, Bradley Whitford, uh, Bradley Whitford sent, like, uh, sent her a scathing tweet. Oh, yeah, saw that. And saying, what are you doing? Because they're supposed to be old friends, and he was like, yeah, please talk to your husband.

Exactly. Uh, well, anyway, around 1994, J.FK Jr., RFK Jr., sorry, drove five hours to cut off the head of a whale. And I don't, look, we don't do political news on the show. Stuff will come up here and there. But this story is like, forget, take the politics out of it for a minute. We're going to talk about this. This would easily begin with Florida man drives five hours to cut off a whale's head.

Yeah, it's a weirdest damn thing. So this is around 1994, RFK Jr. heard that a dead whale had washed up on the shore in Hyannis, Port, Massachusetts. It's immediately he headed five hours north to the scene with a chainsaw, and he and his then six-year-old daughter, Kik, is her name. Yeah. Kick. Kick Kennedy.

Founder of the fledgling competitive Twitch streaming service. Recounted the tale for town and country in 2012. I don't know why that part's funny to me. It just is. Yeah. Town and Country. They drove through Town and Country to get to the whale, I guess. I guess so.

reportedly enjoys studying animal skulls and skeletons so he sawed the head off this whale at the beach using bungee cords he secured it to the roof of his family minivan and casually headed back down to his home in mount kisco new york you know part of the problem is i could be wrong on this but i think that generational wealth messes people up i think that if you are just if you are just born into just sacks of money and you didn't have to do shit for it and your worldview you is just through the lens of all this money, you just do weird stuff. Like, you're just weird, you know? Yeah.

And don't take your six-year-old daughter to watch a whale's head get sawed off. Oh, I know. And how do you figure out where to start cutting? Like, a whale is, it's all head until you get to the tail. How do you figure out, like, where the place to sever? It's not like they have a neck. Really, really weird. Also, just to add a little twist to this, this kickwoman is a reportedly

dating the now freshly re-divorced Ben Affleck. So there's just a fun little side note. Really? That RFK Jr's daughter is dating Ben Affleck. So that's fun. Oh, that's bizarre. Yeah.

Let's see. Although her father, yeah, go ahead. How's her stability? We heard anything? Because she's just reporting on what her dad did. She's not. She might be fine. I don't know.

She might be fine. She might be, okay, let's hope. Yeah. See, this is. why Sting has it right. And people gave Sting shit because he said, I'm not going to, I don't know, I'll try to do the voice, but he basically said, no, my kids have to earn and pay their own way on things. I'm not giving them just dumping money in their lap until they get to a certain age. I want them to experience, you know, growing up and earning money and and having a job and not being reliant on just a paycheck from dad and his royalties and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like that kind of stuff. if I think is smart, if you can do it. It is. Another one is, um, Shaq,

Shaq is like this with his kids. Really? Yeah. They come to him going, dad, I got this project. I'd be, if I could just have a million dollars, I could do it. He's like, no, you can figure it out. You get loaned to go to earn a million dollars. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's smart. If you can do it, it's smart. Generational wealth is just like, like you're the Paris Hilton of the world. You just walk into it. Well, now what? Well, now you're just weird. Now you're weird because you think everything is given to you.

Everything's just available. Like, it's just weird. Anyway, let's now take a break. When we come back from this break, my sister Wendy will be here. And Wendy has a topic today. Yeah, it would be very exciting. So stick around. Brian, tell us a song in the meantime that we could listen to.

Sure. Man, I am so excited about this one. Dave Guy. He's a Dave guy. But he's also a member of the Roots. Hey, we love the Roots. The Dap Kings, we love them too. And Menahan Street band member Dave Guy.

He's got a brand new track from his debut album, his debut almost called Ruby, comes out in about a month, September 20th via Big Crown Records. This is some spectacular trumpet funk right here. This is a song called Still Standing. Here is Dave Guy. Thank you. Thank you. So, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be.

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Sure, that is Dave Guy from his upcoming debut album called Ruby, which comes out September 20th. That is the song Still Standing. You know Dave Guy from The Roots, and he's one of the Dap Kings with Sharon Jones, the late great Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings. Great song right there from Dave Guy. Which of the Roots is he? the main root guy or one of the... He's the trumpet playing root guy.

He is not the drummer that constantly talks to Jimmy during the show. And are the roots still doing roots things with Jimmy Kimmel? Quest Love. It's not Quest Love is who you're thinking. Oh, Quest Love is who, yeah, that's who I'm thinking. Are they still, they're still the house band for Fallon? Yeah. I believe so, yeah. I said Kimmel, I meant Fallon. Fallon.

And then... Kimmel has the guy from... uh never ever had to knock on wood but i know someone who has mighty mighty boss tones he has got the guy from mighty mighty mighty boss tones oh i don't know who that that's who that was i don't watch lank him so i had no idea uh my favorite is a regular for me no he's totally fine i just i don't watch any late night now i just don't see it anymore but when i watch it the next i watch the highlight segments the next day when i was watching dave um yeah i was convinced then and i I'll am that the greatest band ever was Paul Schaefer and the world's most dangerous band. I love that. They were fantastic. Yeah. Speaking of Fantastic, my sister's going to join us.

Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. That's right. It's Wendy Dunford, my sister, a therapist who comes here on Thursdays to talk to you about your problems. Wendy, what's going on? Hey. Hey. Hey, you know, hey. Good, life.

Good. It's bigger and... Bigger. It's bigger. And you and me. You're not me. Thanks that I will go. Yeah.

Good to hear you. We had an energy in a few weeks. I know. Where have you guys been all my life? Right. Yeah. You had people in town last week. How'd that go?

Everything fine. It was really fun. It was Adam's brother and his wife. You know, Brian and Emily. Oh, yeah. They're great. Yeah. They were awesome.

So we have this problem. When anyone visits, we're like, all right. What is every single thing we can do that's Minnesota? We do it. Yeah. And it took, it was a lot of stuff. It'll take a little bit out of you. They came for the state fair, which I'm telling you, you got to go once in your life.

The Minnesota State Fair? Is that massive? It's probably massive, isn't it? And it's fun because they've only been to like the Utah State or State Fair and I think they've been to one other, maybe Georgia. And they were like, this is not what I was expecting. And I was like, I told you. Yeah.

It's like the, it's so great. It's like that mall you guys have. It's like, it's just bigger, man. Yeah. I don't, I've had decent times at our state fair. It's okay, but it's nothing like, you know, nobody looks at the SLC, or the Utah State Fair and goes, oh, wow, look what you're pulling out all the stops. It's like, nah, we might have gotten like, I don't know, Kenny Chesney for five minutes. It's on. You really just go there to see what new fried food they've been able to come up with. What innovations in deep frying. That's right. Yes, it is impressive. And then there's a lot of gourmet options,

Like some of the yummiest things I've ever eaten have been at the state fair that are like a chef made. It's like a beautiful combo of those two things. Nice. Anyway, so it was a blast. So we just ate all the fried things and the not fried things. I mean, most of what you're doing there is just planning your food route. Yeah, that's pretty much it, right? Yeah.

And the seed art this year was on fire. Really? Oh my gosh. I love it so much. So what's the status of things like, it's been a while since I've been in a fair, but they still do like biggest pumpkin. and the fattest pig and all that kind of crap is that a thing yeah they do all of that there is a entire building it's the miracle of birth center and it is giant pigs you've never seen a pig this in your life with like 14 piglets wow just it is crazy and then anything that gave birth

they're going to have they're going to be in there so you get to pet tiny little piglets or you get to hold a baby chicken or like so just get a lot of like cool hands-on stuff and then so there's like that. And then, of course, they have horses and cows and they show them. So it's a lot of like teenage cowboys and cowgirls showing their goats and wearing like one of the big buckle in the jeans. It's amazing. So it has all of that. But you can 100% never see one thing of a scene, see an animal and still have an absolute blast. Like it's not all that. And I think that's like there's a whole art studio essentially. And you are just looking at beautiful paintings and sculptures by local artists.

So it's like, and then bands on all these stages. It's really fun. I could geek out about it forever, but you should just do it one time in your life. Get your butt over here. Zoe in our chat just posted some of the food this year. One of them looks amazing. Well, two of them do. There's something called three piggy pals on a stick, which is three smoked sausage slices

wrapped in bacon, filled with cream cheese, drifting with barbecue sauce, top with a jalapeno slice served on a stick. Oh, man. Stuff like that. Or buffalo cheese curds. And it's just not friendly to anything else. Not friendly. Heart unfriendly.

They have like an entire thing that gives you all the fair food in one of the places. Everything is gluten-free or everything is there's vegan stuff. Like the veggies on a stick or salad on a stick. Like there's anyone can go and find what they need. That's what's kind of cool about it. We had a fun opportunity of my sister-in-law needs a wheelchair. And so we got to push her around, which means I can. could, like, knock people over and get through grounds.

It was pretty great. Yeah. And we go into the dairy building, people. And the dairy building is the most amazing thing you'll ever see because there is a man. It was a woman for 30 years. A man has taken over and he carves live in front of you, a giant block of butter into one of the princesses from a different count. Every county has like a fair princess that comes and a cowgirl or something. And they carve her face into a giant block of butter.

While she's sitting there, they're both in coats because, of course, it's cold and this rotating retunda thing that spins while we watch them. Oh, awesome. It's so fun. And by the end of the fair, there's like 15 princess heads made out of butter in this thing. Anyway, so we go in the dairy building. And she goes, I was like, you know what I just noticed? You're by everyone's butt.

Like, this must not be fun. And she goes, well, let's just say everywhere has been fine, but people are not doing well in the dairy building. Oh. I've read a gas in her face, the poor thing. That was the only bummer part of that for her, but no kind of intended. Yeah, I knew you think about that. If you're in a wheelchair all the time and everyone else's butt level to you.

Oh, just fart and down you. That's what's happening. That's not good. No, everyone would be more aware of that because I had many experiences that I was like, well, people are clueless how they move around these kinds of things. And me, I'd like park her in this weird spot. and she's like staring at a wall. And I'm like,

oops, sorry. Turn around. You know? That's hard. Like, you just got to learn. Yeah. She's awesome, though.

I miss those guys. I haven't seen them in 15 something years or something like that. I know. They are the best. Well, let's get to today's question from an anonymous listener. All right. They say this.

Hey, Scott with one T. Brian and Wendy with a Y. Sorry. It's totally fine if you guys spell our names weird. Listen, I'm usually brain in one of these. one of these emails, so totally fine. That's true.

You've been brain a lot in your life, right? It just happens. My whole life, like that little shoebox you make Valentine's for in grade school for eight years or six years or whatever. That was always brain. Always brain. Maybe they were complimenting. Every card I got was from some, well, brain a little, happy Valentine's nice. Because you were so smart.

All right. Hello, Scott, Brian, and Wendy. I am a volunteer firefighter in a rural farming area. I have been doing this for five years now. Since we are in a rural area, we are on call 24-7, 365. That's very much being on call all the time, I guess. We have a variety of all of call types, structure fires, wildland fires, vehicle collisions, etc. Every time my phone goes off with a specific ringtone, I set for fire calls, and adrenaline

gets pumping, and the let's get to work mentality comes to the forefront. One call, though, change that. We get a call from an elderly man who has fallen into the... the river. Geez. I'm one of four first on the scene in the truck, get to the river bank and see the man floating in the river. We all know that this river is only a couple of feet deep this time of year, so we scramble down the river bank and hoist the unconscious man up to the bank. Now you can trade on all you want and you think you're prepared, but you're not for what's next. We start performing CPR on the man and nothing can compare, excuse me, prepare you for

the sound and feeling of all of someone's ribs snapping while doing CPR. this haunted my dreams for weeks afterwards and when that call went off it wouldn't sorry it would all come flooding back so the sound of his phone would would trigger that i'd never had to deal with anything like this before from that day uh sorry and from that day said to my co when it comes to vehicle collisions and such i'll go do traffic i don't want to experience that again to be honest i was suppressed i just suppressed the memories so i have never possessed it correctly processed it processed why did i read an r in there i don't know. That's from an anonymous listener. That sounds pretty hardcore. And also, I mean, just from a non-expert opinion, that sounds like literally PTSD. But when do you help us with what this is and how to deal with it? Yeah. So let's talk about what happened. So we have a couple things. All right. So maybe you remember Psych 101, everyone, I don't know, with operant and classical conditioning it's where you um we learned about pavlov's dog right where we ring a bell give the dog meat and then eventually we can ring a bell and the dog will salivate without any meat right because it's so

used to the bell is tied the brain has now made a connection between the bell and the meat coming so we have this is a hundred percent an operant conditioning situation where he the the bell is tied to this traumatic experience and so anytime the bell rings it's going to remind uh the brain is now like oh yeah here we go we're going to hear a bunch of ribs cracking also like the sounds it's interesting we've got a lot of sounds going on here so when you think of when any kind of trauma occurs everything you know people will describe or the movies show us right i don't know how accurate the movie depictions are but like everything slows down right or something is just like the tunnel vision that can occur you only see this one thing you know if you talk to someone afterwards it's really like

leaving the current like easy vibes of living your life you know like the consciousness that's a little bit aware of everything and nothing and is kind of just doing its thing it has to get into emergency mode right which means any extraneous stimuli is gone and what is important is all now being focused on And when something occurs like any kind of trauma, you're going to have a few senses, whatever they're picking up, now are part of the deal. We have an old man floating in a river. I'm sure if they pulled him out, did CPR, and there were no cracking ribs, this might be slightly different. But because it has certain elements to it, and this is what happens often with these cases, is there. There's just the right element.

It's almost like the stars aligned for it to be more traumatic. Because I'm guessing as a volunteer firefighter for five years, this person has seen other things. Oh, yeah. And heard other things, right? Right. Yeah. But somehow this had the right elements. The visceral, right.

The visceral, the sound, maybe it has a little river, the man's age, the way he looked. It could be a number of things that just made it right to stick. and to now be having a bit of the Pavlovian response when his phone rings, right? Yeah, and it's not always a negative thing too, right? Like sometimes the smell, the sound, the whatever it is that triggers things. Sometimes they're like, oh, this reminds me of when it rained when I was a kid and I loved it outside. 100%. All that kind of thing.

100%. Good and bad happen with this. And if I like to reframe this a little bit, it is not bad that this has happened. It's actually just showing that your system works. If this never happens to you, you might not be paying attention or you're an ER doctor because you have trained away some of these responses. And so it would take a lot for those stars to align for it to maybe traumatize you if you are practicing this. So for example, like five years volunteer, that means a couple of things have been seen. Maybe they didn't sort of hand or like create this thing.

So wildfires, vehicle collisions. Are you kidding? Vehicle collisions? You know, like there are definitely things that are really, really tough here. But there's something about this. So what I would start with this person talking about is what is it specifically about this that maybe hit you differently, right? If this was your first call, yeah, this would hit probably everyone the same, right? But this isn't. This is something you've maybe done in a variety of scenes before.

scenes before you've maybe helped cut someone out of a car crash you maybe have seen someone pass away before you know I don't know those details aren't are in here but what about this one um so I would you know of course make sure they feel safe talking about that so should be clear that sometimes um we have to be in a specific position with somebody before we're just like hey tell me about all your trauma right like you you make sure a you don't force anyone to talk about it but you also are making sure they can feel safe and that, you know, it's okay to talk about. So I should mention that. In a therapeutic setting, this is what I would do. I would build a relationship with this person first. And then I would talk about how trauma worked. And then I would

say, can we talk just a little bit about the elements that maybe make this a little stickier? So I'd find out, is it something about the guys? Is it something about the river? Is it something about something else sort of going on in your life? because there can be some existential pieces to some of this, right? And other factors. So I just get really curious about all the things that surround why this was so sticky and help that person also understand it. It even could, right?

Like even the experience of that event, he might even be lumping other things in that were similar related and kind of exacerbating what he experienced with the old man in the river and just like lumping a lot of other things into that. Right. And then we have the sound of the river. We have the cracking of the bones. There's so many sensorial things adding to this, right?

So if there were, this was near a lemon tree grove, the smell of lemon will do this, right? Or whatever the other senses that get activated. So it is a great sign that your system is working. And what's really not normal is to feel nothing ever. like that may maybe you should be more concerned about that now but this means functioning is affected and that's because the system works to pump the brakes anytime anything remind you of that bad thing so there's a number of ways that someone would go about processing this um lots of different modalities um and you would reach out to somebody who specializes in trauma treatment and

I use a couple different techniques that don't require someone to go back and be re-traumatized. Some others have that sort of built in. We're always trying to work on making this more effective because this is so many people. Think about this. Every single person will have had some kind of traumatic experience in their life, some repetitively, some one-off, some violent, whatever. It's when it sticks and you lose functioning is when we start to get into the PTSD

realm of well in this case it can't just simply be exposure therapy because you're asking him to go crack a bunch of ribs over and over or something like that you know what I mean like exposure therapy is fine when you're saying oh I don't like being on roller coasters well you slowly

get to the point where you can get on roller coasters to face the fear but you're not going to go alright find me an old man who's ribs I can break it's more like you know here let's go to the meat department at the local grocery store and have you work And so I hear what you're saying because, no, you can't do the same thing over and over.

But exposure therapy is like there's the extreme form of that, which is we're going to go pet spiders because you're afraid of spiders. And then there is the opposite of that thing, which is to avoid. And that's what it sounds like they are trying to do. They're trying to somehow only get called to vehicular nightmares rather than, you know, or forest fires or whatever. like so it's not it is not intensity it's not difficulty that's not the problem as you can see like still going to run into a fire um but it's the processing right so that's what the final question is i just suppress the memories so i've never processed them that is the kicker that is what exposure therapy forces us to do is to process and to have new experiences and to you know pull another person out of the river have their ribs crack and be okay this time or have their ribs not crack this time. You know, just new experiences will replace the old tape and the old alarm system,

if that makes sense, right? And so the alarm system is just really sensitive. So you're going to need some experiences to desensitize that. And so, yes, that is one option. And that is actually what processing your feelings in a safe space does, is that you are going back to, like, the fact that it's in their dreams all the time, And the time of my dreams for weeks afterwards, and when that call went off, it all come flooding back.

So it was the Pavlovian response. It's in there, the training, the horror of that moment sort of was internalized. And then all we need is the bell to bring it out. And so sort of decommissioning that bell would require actually processing through what that trauma was like. So suppressing, never a great idea if we can avoid it. But that's exactly avoided. That's funny. exactly what it most of us maybe tend to do unless you were trained well not to because what

we really biologically often do is avoid something difficult who wants to go through some horrifying event again no one right so it makes sense why you would suppress the memories but that is what will keep this sticky that will keep the bell working to take you back to that biological state. So really what processing does. And there's so EMDR is we've talked maybe a little bit about that. That is one that helps reprocess the actual memory. A couple other schools of thought will sort of as the client is reprocessing the memory. They're actually creating power in the story because they are not in that unsafe place. There's a lot of resources, internal resources we can give people like so a lot of things you can do around this. And what it does is ultimately,

puts the memory in its appropriate slot and not in a corner dungeon where it's going to flare up whenever a bell rings, right? Like it then is integrated into their life and their stories and their system. So you have to process it to do that. And that's tricky because you can't do this by yourself very easily unless you, you know, have some of this. And I imagine, I imagine even the volunteer fire departments and the, you know, the smaller group, that are in the big cities all offer some sort of therapy for their employees. They have to, right? Or even on a national level, whatever the firefighter group is, American Firefighter Association

or whatever it's called, probably has some resources available to fire departments at any level that can access these resources. You think so, like I would hope so. I wonder how much of it is like, you know, if you're in a small town, volunteer firefighters, private department kind of thing. Are the rules the same? Are they different? Do you have national resources that can back you up, like actually, you know, get traction with?

I don't know how that works. If they don't, they should. If they don't, because you're, you know, you're encountering stuff like this guy. Yeah, that is, yeah, that is just as bad, just as dangerous and just as traumatizing as you would in a big city where maybe you do have those, those resources. H&R chat is a cop in the south, and he says not necessarily. Obviously, that's not a lot of information there, but I'd be curious about that. Well, in the rural farming area, probably not the resources and the therapist sit in on call.

There's also maybe another factor of just like that's not how we do things. We don't talk about that. We just, everyone's seen something, shove it down. Could be just a vibe of the culture, man. Yeah. And so recognizing that, yeah, maybe in a bigger city, this would be. an automatic thing, that there would be somebody that you get referred to. Yeah.

Because it is going to be a common thing for anyone whose job or volunteer job is to save lives. You're going to see things that you should never see, right? Yeah. And so that, you know, first of all, thank you for your service and for being willing to be part of that. You're just going to have to be more careful with your mental health than, you might think you would need to be because you're like, I'm brave, I run into fires, not away from fires. Like there's probably already disposition and personality

and some other really great things going for this person that does not put them in a very risky category for being traumatized by an event. However, this one is maybe a wake-up call, A, your system works, and B, there's something more going on here. Could be related to your actual life. It could also just be related to, you know, the stars aligning on this particular.

incident that makes it so it wasn't clear how things turned out for the man they found in the water either. I'm very curious about that just from a like if he passed away or even if it was he may have been long gone

or maybe he survived like we don't know but that would the outcome seems like it would have an an effect here. Right. Right. Yeah you save his life versus nothing you can do for him at that point. Two different. Very different outcomes and one with a much darker, longer lasting, traumatizing.

Yeah, like if one of them, like, even if you weren't the direct cause of his, his demise, the idea that you were there either right before or just after his death and you cracked his ribs, just trying to do your job. Like, that would add up pretty quick to be just like, man, what a miserable thing that was. Yeah. But we don't know, I guess he didn't say. You could follow up and let us. Right.

And regardless to the fact that it's haunting your dreams. One question I would ask is, has that happened before? Has any other thing gotten sticky and shows up in your dreams? And then one way I really like to think about this. And I think my clients find it really helpful is that it's a reframing in a big way, which is like, oh, interesting. Okay, so this is sticking. That means I need to pay some attention to it.

And then what do I do with it is what most people don't know. is I work through it and I can't avoid. And that often is like, okay, this is your system trying to help you. It's just stuck. It's like you've, you know, swallowed something in your softness and you can breathe around it. But until it's gone, you're not going to feel good. And so it's just hinting to you like, it's like pain, right? Hey, there is something here.

And so to be curious about it, to get some help with it, to recognize. A lot of people will do this, and this is what I really hope for this person is they don't do this, which is they just, like, plow through and keep going and do things like, I will only go on this call or that call. Or trying to control it in some other way to the point where, like, I can't even do this. You know, of all occupations or, you know, when people do certain things, I mean, you can look at burnout rates. it's obviously very high for folks who are doing this kind of work because it is so difficult to keep processing what you see. And if you don't, you will build up enough that you just probably can't do it anymore. And that's the thing. I wanted them to really think about taking care of their mental health. Like this is as important as any other tool you have on that

job. Right. And that's not how the world has worked for a long time. No one has maybe given it that much credit in 10, 15, 20 years ago, right? This is still pretty new to like, but it really is like keeping, keeping your mental health good here. It really needs to be a priority. So just the other day, I'm driving on the freeway and there was like a little construction area and I hit something, made a terrible sound. And I was going like 65 in the left lane.

I popped two tires on freeways, and both time I'm in like going fast in the left thing. Good. I should learn my freaking lesson. Anyway, and it was fine. Abe was with me. I pull over and I am on the left shoulder, which is a scary shoulder to be on. Oh, geez. Yeah.

And I call, you know, the people on my insurance card, which I was like, who do I go? I don't even know how to do this. And so all of a sudden, an angel shows up behind me in the Minnesota Department of Transportation truck. Not the person I called. Just someone else. And he shows up and comes to my window. And he's like, you got a spare?

And I'm like, I don't think so. He's like, what? Because I can't see it. I've never seen it. And I guess it's underneath something. Anyway, so I was like, I don't know. He's like, can I have your manual? He's like, oh, she's a dummy.

Anyway, he just changes my tire in. I mean, you know how you have to jack the car up? Yeah. That stick was in the road. Like, that's how close I am. So the right side of the car was where the tire blew. So that, it was terrifying. And the law here, I think it should be everywhere, is if any kind of emergency vehicle is stopped, everyone has to get over.

Yes. But that doesn't mean everyone did. No. I watched him. I just kept thinking, who does this job? Yeah. Who is doing this? This is insane.

And, and a car would drive kind of near him. And he just gave him a dirty look. And I'm like, that's all you got is a dirty look. like it was just so anyway it was really sweet he fixed it and then put the car back whatever it gave me some advice and I was like do I pay you and he's like oh no it's just part of my job and he just like wandered away into the sunset I was like what just happened it was amazing just like a little angel kind of thing yeah it was amazing and ab was like I would have just changed it right there and I'm like you would be dead there's no way you should ever do that so the gift really was

that he learned even someone with a car with flashing lights and all the tools shouldn't, you know, it was scary. And that man's name was Tim Walls, future governor. I guarantee it was his son. No, just kidding. He is the best. But anyway, so it was this great example of like, someone is risking their life.

And people inadvertently would never attempt to harm him in that moment. But people are stupid and think they should be going fast in another lane. They should be, you know, like stuff happens. And you have to have a certain amount of, strength and, you know, management of your fear to behave this way. And that's not normal for a lot of us, right? And so when you have a higher level of tolerance for this kind of distress, and sometimes I forget that I actually have a really high tolerance for suicidal distress or psychological distress. Like that stuff, I'm so used to it. I don't have a reaction the way

someone else would if their friend told them they were suicidal, right? But I do with changing a tire in the road, holy crap, or pulling some out of a river and give them CPR. I, you know, so we all have our things. And I'm looking at this person thinking, okay, you are a volunteer to do this amazing thing. You probably have a higher tolerance. You may not have done much to care for yourself this way before because you didn't need to, right? Right. And as we we age, some of this sort of anxiety or some other things will just increase with time. So they also didn't give their age, which would have been interesting, because I think sometimes this gets a little harder to maintain maybe your testosterone drops.

So you're not as scared. You're more scared of things. Or you know that they've been doing it for five years, but we don't know how old they are. Yeah. Could be, you know, older, could be young, whatever. But either way, there is another. facet to this kind of work, you have to care for yourself in mental ways. So I really want to encourage that. I might be harping on this because I think this is a rural farming community. Maybe

that resources are low. But, you know, find a way to process that at your CEO, this cannot be the first person. You cannot be the first person this has occurred with. And at this point, you're still functioning to some extent, but you can also just want to process it so it alleviates this. Yeah. right you're it that that phone beep sound is tied to that trauma and that can be untied and you know you can get help right right right well let us know back and also anyone out there who works in similar situations emergency services type jobs in smaller communities i'd just be curious about some of these questions like do you have access to stuff do you guys feel like you have to fight for

that um maybe you have great programs where you live i'm just curious about it because a does seem like something that would be, you know, really important. Taylor or my son-in-law, Dylan, was going to be an EMT. He was going through all the stuff, doing the things, and he ended up being on a couple of ride-alongs, saw some gnarly stuff, and went, I don't think

I can handle that. So I'm not going to do it. And so he stopped doing it and went into something else. I had to realize that before you're in the thick of it, and it's a lot harder to get out of. Yeah, some really rotten stuff you get to see is those guys. And so anyway, I'm,

And I hope our listener can find this helpful. Let us know, please. Wendy, awesome stuff. And for all of us who are scaredy cats, thank you. Thank you for doing what you do. Taking the risks that you do. Yeah. I mean, when I was, what, 14, I saw that body get pulled out of the little Cottonwood River by the house.

Immediately went home, went to shock, barfed on the couch. Because I didn't know. And do you remember what I did? I just closed my eyes. Did you close your eyes? You just, you know what? You're the smart one. I was just like, oh, that.

They're pulling a 30-something-year-old dude out of this river who drowned death. And I'm just wide-eyed watching it with Jimmy Jensen or whoever's there with me. And then I went home and I remember being not myself. It really ripped me in pieces. And then I barfed on that couch that grandma gave us. And you couldn't tell because the pattern on it was so like, it looked like barf. So mom didn't even know for like a couple of days or something. Jeez. Anyway, good stuff, as always. Wendy, anything else?

Anything else want to mention before we cut out today? No, I will one day, but no, no. Not today. Today is not that day. Today is not the day. My kids start school next week, and then I will get my head together. Oh, yeah. School. It's time. So good luck with that. Much later in Minnesota then. Oh, yeah. We honor the summers as if they are a sacred right of passage and you do not touch them. I wish people to do that here. You know, so many kids like, yeah, with the, Labor Day, we've already been going to school for three weeks. I don't that sound terrible?

And in our case, we're like three straight months and you want to die by the end because it is too long. But then dead of winter, you're like, remember summer? Yeah. By the way, the Farmer's Almanac has predicted a rough one this winter. So I am, I'm ready to travel. All right. I thought you're going to say buckle down and make soup, but you want to just, you want to get out.

Get out of here. And then have all my flights get canceled because they won't let us fly home. It's perfect. It's so funny because you're like, it is August, but I am planning what I'm doing in January and February. Good for you. That's awesome. Because I believe in Farmers Amlinet, I guess. I guess.

Sure. They are farmers. Dada, Dda, Dump, all right. Wendy, have a fantastic week.

We'll see you next time. That's not the same farmers. I know that. We are farmers. All right. Let's get to the part of the show where we tell you what's going on after it. So Coverville in about an hour, hour and a half.

Something like that. A half. Yep. Yep. Exactly. More Marvel Snap. Listen to, listen to some cardigans, some Greg Ken, while you watch me play probably a Wican deck. Ooh, very nice.

Having fun with a Wicin deck. Nice. All you say, Tanic Panic believers, get in there for that one. That's right. Yeah, you get to go and voice your opinion about my Wiccan usage. Sure. Always using that Wiccan. Also, Core, live stream tonight, 5 p.m. usual time, Thursday night.

It's time for CORE. We got lots to talk about, lots of games to discuss. some of us have played the Star Wars game some of us have played all the wow stuff oh yeah there's a lot going on and playing the Star Wars or John John I believe John I think John played it did the early access on it cool

excellent I can't wait to hear about it because I'm going to buy it tomorrow or not go and buy it it'll buy it on my PlayStation tomorrow yeah and that bug you were talking about I think is officially fixed yeah that's good thank goodness but yeah poor people that'll be a great question for him is if he had to restart his

progress because of that bug. I will ask him about that for sure. Also, the weird thing with that game, remember this,

everyone. There are two fandoms that can get very toxic, at least parts of them. Post about this other day. Number one, Star Wars fans

can get very toxic. Gamers, they can also get very toxic. Guess what's worse than those two? When they combine like Voltron. So don't pay any

attention to that shit play it if you want don't if you don't and leave it at that yeah exactly exactly I can't play it because there's a woman in it where were you guys in the 90s when freaking Lara Croft showed up were you getting boners over her pointy boobs what were you doing anyway

no poly boobs blame let's also mention the play retro or excuse me play date tomorrow we're going to start at 9 a.m it'll go till 11 and we are playing a bunch of among us we'll see if anything else cracks are fancy but right now that's it And we look forward to having all you be there.

And that's for everybody, not just patrons. All of you can show up at 9 a.m. tomorrow right here at frogpance.com. It'll be live. So please come check that out. Also play date or excuse me, play retro and reverse the same thing. Anyway, that's tomorrow at 1.30 p.m. Film sack this weekend. We're watching Taken.

Yeah. So get that going. And skim sometime between now and then a skim will appear magically. Nice. Yeah. So a lot of stuff. Everything else for TMS you can find at Frogpants.com slash TMS. and a reminder, if you're going to request songs like Brian's about to do one of these requests,

you've got to hop on over there and you'll find a link to request a song. Sometimes if it's an email, they get lost in the shuffle, and I hate that for you. They always get email, or always lost in the shuffle. Because I go to a very specific place. I have a particular set of spreadsheets that I look at when I assemble the music for the show. So make sure you go to frogpants.com slash TMS, click the request a song link, and that'll take you through the whole thing. you need. All that you need. That's right. We'll hook you up. That's it for that. Brian,

let's do one of those requests. What do you have today? Sure. Darren from Northwest Pennsylvania wrote in and said, hello, scoot and boot. The last I knew the covermeister was looking for song requests. I was. As I have no particular day to play this cover, I will let the Brian use the request as he sees fit. If for some reason we can't use this cover, any of the cover by our last night would be great. Love the show. Love the slow bro. Darren from Northwest Pennsylvania or Hobo Pope D in Discord. Nice. Well, there you go.

Hobopo Pope D is an amazing username. Hobopopop D. Love it. That is just fun to say and awesome. I love it. I feel like I'm going to get into that art of noise song, Beatbox. Hobopopopopopopopi, Hobopopopopi. I'm glad you did now.

That was great. This is, we played this on the show before, but it's so damn good. I'm glad to play it. Why? Okay, this is funny. I think I might have floated the wrong song. I clicked the wrong. Yeah, I did.

I clicked the one underneath it. Oh, shoot. Okay. Darren from Northwest Pennsylvania, your song next week. Next Tuesday. Look for it, dude. Look for it. Yeah, next Tuesday.

Whoops. Oh, that was all the way from January. He's not still expecting this song. This one, this one's. Jeez. All right. Well, hey, Darren from Northwest Pennsylvania, you're still listening to TMS, or if you've given up on ever hearing your request,

I'll look for it Monday. Matthew E. I'll get this one out as quickly as possible. This request is for any time in January, no occasion. It's all right. This one I knew was old. I recently found gunship and was immediately smitten. Mostly I'm requesting the song to hear Brian's take on their original music.

They are a British synthwave band, heavily influenced by the 80s. That influence can be seen in their music videos and the names featured on tracks. John Carpenter is featured as a narrator in the song's Tec Noir and Techno 2. And if you watch the music video from Monster in Paradise, you'll be visited by the familiar biceps of Tim Capello. Yes, is seen in the 1987 Lost Boys' saxophone section. Hope you love them, though.

Signed Matthew E. This is the one you're getting. This is the song you're getting. Sure. And you know what? I don't think it's late. I think it's early. Think of it that way.

Yeah. Oh, did I say Monday or did I say Tuesday? You said Monday, but we all know what you meant. Yeah, you're good. Listen, I'll play it Tuesday. Nobody will be able to hear it. I'm sorry, Monday. Nobody will be able to hear it because we're 10.45 on Monday. I'm going to play the Darren song. And sorry, Darren, you just won't be around to hear it. Sure. Go well. Okay. Gunship. And I've been drinking coffee. I don't know what's going on here. Here's their cover of Eleanor Rigby from 2020. Gunship and

some cool 80s sound and synth wave. I look at all the lonely people I look at all the lonely people Ellen Rickby picks up the rice in the church where the wedding has been lives in a tree, weighs by the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door. Who is it for? All the lonely people, or do they all come home? All the lonely people.

all belong Father McKenzie writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear no one comes to the earth looking at him working donning his socks in the night when there's nobody there

why does he care all the lonely people where do they all come from all the lonely people Where do they all belong? I look at all the lonely people. I look at all the lonely people. Eleanor Ripby, died in the church and was buried along with her name.

Nobody came to Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from him. hands as he walks from the grave, no one will save. All the lonely people, where till they all come from? All the lonely people, where do they all belong? This show is part of the FrogPant Network. Yes.

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