The Morning Stream - TMS 2711: Crumply Little Mess

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

I Don't Like Cereal and Kimcheeeeeeeeee. C3PFaux. No News, No Internet, and No Lt. Yar. Rock-Hard Sweaty Men. Manic Pixie Bench-presser. The one hand case. Stop or my bomb will shoot. Zero Gravity Mattress. Comparing Our Nuts. A Place for the Rich and Serious. Hella Helena. Chewy Air. Photoshop a Superhero Xerox of a Kleenex. The Same Effing Plane. The Morning Superheros with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In another life, I would have really liked just doing laundry and taxes with you. Yeah, you, TMS listeners, have still not signed up for our TMS Patreon. At patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, I don't like cereal and kimchi! C3Po. No news, no internet, and no lieutenant y'R. Rock hard sweaty men.

Manic pixie bench presser. The one hand case. Stop or my bomb will shoot. Zero gravity mattress. Comparing our nuts. A place for the rich and serious. Hella Helena. Chewy air.

Photoshop a superhero Xerox of a Kleenex. The same effing plane. The Morning Superheroes with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. She don't hear half the shit that I tell her, you know. Yeah, because the way you talk is stupid. Well, if you don't hear it, how do you know it's stupid? I want you to know that I've smoked pot. The morning stream, one way or the other.

This war ends tonight. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is Monday, September 30th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian David. Hi, Brian. Yellow. Scott. Month is about to end abruptly shortly here.

That's right. Oh, I'm so glad. Let's start waking up, Billy Joe Armstrong. It's time to rouse him from his slumber. Yeah. Do we have to do it at midnight tonight, or can we do it tomorrow just in the day? How do you handle that? Well, it's wake me up when September ends, and today is when September ends.

Tomorrow is September has ended. Oh, good point. So today. Yeah. So it's wake me up when September's over, and it's the next. next day. Yep. So what we do is we call him when we say Billy Joe, Joe, Joel, Joe. Hey, Billy Joe, Mr. Armstrong, we'd say, because he's an older guy now. Please wake up. September has ended and he'll say thanks. There you go. Perfect. And for those who want to write in and tell us that

it's about his father dying and we shouldn't make fun of it. He has already said in public that he's fine with it and doesn't bother him at all. All right? Yeah, exactly. Brian, it's time for us to do show it's Monday we got all her crap to do uh i got this text i think it's kind of interesting that i want to get up here first um also just a quick bit of news for everybody out there listening my wife returns home today and uh that'd be great because uh everything's better when she's here so i'm starting to dream weird i ate well i'll you know what i'll just tell you this first yeah i jump to this one since you're already talking about that made a very poor eating decision yesterday well i mean whatever it may not be it's not that big a deal but i had a bowl

A bowl of cereal. Normal. It's fine. Normal bowl of cereal. It was good. It was the honey bunches of oats with almonds or something. Oh, nice. Yeah, I like that stuff. It's good. And, uh, you know, as cereals go, it's okay for you. Nice cold oat milk. Didn't even have real milk. A decent thing to be eating. But I was still hungry after. So I had a little bowl of kimchi right after the bowl of cereal. Right after the, the semi-sweet cereal. Yeah. Does that make any, any sense to anyone? Why? Anyone would do that? Totally does. Totally does. Because I will do that too. I will, um, I will, um, I will for, you know, I like do a snack at around two o'clock every day. Sure. And I'll go upstairs and I've got a, uh, Tina gets these big old honey crisp apples and I've got this core and people can be like, oh, use a core. You like waste like

a third of the apple with a core. Just, you know, I disagree. You're not going to eat that middle bit anyway. No, I'm not going to eat that middle bit. Yeah, there's a little bit, the ring above the seeds and the ring below the seeds but come on you know what if you use that core thing it's actually less waste because when you mouth around it yeah it's uneven and i bet you you say i'll bet you would use way more the apple with a cord i 100% agree yes i agree with that anyway so so i use the corn and i have an apple and then i'm like hmm that was kind of sweet i need something salty and so immediately my thoughts all right i'm going to go eat some uh some of those those alternac corn nuts that uh the love corn they're so good

That stuff is great, yeah. I ate a bag of those yesterday, too, like a pig. Okay, look at what I got. I have all that's left in this box. Oh, those are my favorite flavors, the cheese. Have not even opened the blue box. Ooh, blue box. Which I'm guessing is like a cool ranch or something.

I think they're that or they're like salt and vinegar maybe or something. These. Oh, family favorites variety pack. Oh, I should have, well, this is the box I probably should have started. you know I'll do? I'll open this box and I'll put the rest of those in there. Yeah, just mix them in there. All I have left are the cheese ones. And these are so good. Oh, my gosh. I love the cheese ones. I can eat them all day. But I won't. Because Kim's coming home tonight or whenever, I don't know when she's coming home.

Why is it that flights out are always at the ungodly early hour and flights home are always late at night? Why? Why? Is that price? Is that why we do this? Well, it's probably why she picked that flight. Yeah, because I mean, I'm taking technically a flight. out is a flight back for somebody else. That's a good point. Yeah, you're right. That's true. But I guess are they paying, okay, so for example, if they're getting, let's say you get to.

If they're buying a round trip, do you think it's a different price if it's the first part of their flight? Right. It might be, because if you say you sometimes get a cheaper price, right? Right. Like you're, yeah. But you're on the same effing plane. It's such a scam, dude. That whole business.

Everything about it. Like in the 60s, they were like, bringing you dinners and fancy wines and they were all paying the same you could you do whatever and you had all the freedom in the world and it was like a big chair and there was and all crammed together we got we got to go back to the we got to go back let's go back everybody uh anyway so that's the thing and i'm not going to eat bad today just because she's coming home i got to do a bunch of dishes and get cleaned up and all that yeah uh yeah luke sidewalker points out i want to i want to address this now So Luke Skywalker mentions Bibi Cutting out.

Yeah, it's going to happen every once in a while. We've decided it's just like, what's the point in calling attention to it? Because there's nothing I can do about it. So, you know, Scott may say, oh, could you say that again? You cut out during that? Yeah. That's really all the attention. Why give, and I'm giving all this attention to it.

It's the last time. It's the last time we're giving attention to it. No, this is official attention so that in the future everyone will understand. This is the official last attention. Scott may say, oh, say that again, you cut out. Yeah. His ISP, for some reason, there's some kind of weird thing. We don't know why.

It doesn't happen with anyone else. We don't know why. So we're just going to, what else you're going to do. You've talked to him. They've done what they can do. You can't do shit. It's just going to irritate the crap out of me until I get fiber, fiber or fiber. Fiber.

Maybe I can hire one of those overseas freelance artists to give me better internet. I like that. Fiber in maybe 2027 or something. Yeah. Oh, and no worries, Luke. I just wanted to bring it up because Claire mentioned it. earlier and it's like oh yeah no we're going we're not going after you yeah we just that's just it's the it's the elephant in the room and there it is we've addressed it so good job everybody

um all right real quick here i got this text from a listener who did not leave their oh no they did lucky bolt sorry put it the first instead of the end lucky bolt uh he says this uh it's about henry cavill which is interesting he says fun fact about henry cavill i'm in the military and went to a fitness seminar a few years back to get better about working out or it's a workout planning and crap i like the and crap part that's actually the name of the studio that you go workout planning and crap workout planning it's better you know

what do you got you got orange theory golds and workout planning and crap those are the 24 hour fitness which isn't 24 hours by the way no 7-11 is more 24 hours than they are geez you ask him about the why do you call yourself 24 fitness not all at once not all in the same time no you spread it out over a while yeah it's a weird that feels like they had it that was the plan

and then they changed it yes yes but didn't want to change all their trademarks and everything. Anyway, it says the place I went had this claim-to-fame story. While training and preparing for the Superman role, Henry Cavill trained at this same place called Jim Jones, but spelled G-Y-M. What if they give you a Kool-Aid when you're chilling? Yeah, he's going to say, is there another, is there a, is there a CrossFit place

named David Koresh CrossFit? Yeah, David, David, Kroft. Yeah, Koresh CrossFit. That's pretty good. David Karash fit. Karash fit. Oh, that kills me. Jim Jones, I mean, it's a funny pun.

And they had to sit there and go, well, we're going to call it Jim Jones. It's a funny pun. But there was that one Jim Jones guy. There's that guy that. Why not call it Jim? Who's a good gym that they could have named it after? Jim Krochey.

Jim Kroche is good. That's a real bad example. Crochy is not an attractive word. though you know it is because it looks like crutch how about jim gaffigan jim gaffigan yeah i saw name your jim gaffigan i saw his tim wals opener it was really good yeah it's great he nailed it it was really good he totally did and uh all those months of people going who should be who should be that dude and i was like he should be that guy he's perfect get him in there he's perfect yeah uh anyway so sorry jim jones that's fine his place jones uh spade was also very good crack me up

oh yeah yeah uh all right where i where was i carvey you mean or Who'd I say? You said Spade, but I know what you meant. Oh, I didn't mean Spade. Yeah, the other guy that hangs out on that podcast and won't let each other talk. Just kidding, they're better. You are right. They're better at this now.

They're way better now. Yeah, they've really figured out that, oh, I guess it's about the guests. Maybe you should let the guest talk. It's like somebody told them. I'm guessing producers told them. It's like, guys, you got to, we're bringing in like these important people and you got to let them talk. That's my David Spade, by the way. Did you enjoy my David's state?

It was pretty good. It was pretty good. It was a little Joe dirty. But, you know. I was a little Joe Dirty, but I'm fine with that. It's fine. I like Joe Dirt. Anyway, so here's what he says.

He was at this gym to achieve this physique that, you know, Henry Cabell's known for. But here's the interesting part, he says. Scott, Jim Jones is located in none of the Salt Lake City, Utah. That is to say, the very air you breathe, as you read this, in the same air you is the same air used to forge the physique of the man of steel. And our favorite Hollywood 40Ker, there it is, there is hope. for you yet love the show guys keep it up um wow so i don't know where this place sit i guess i could look it up but um you know if he lives well he lives in london even coming here he would be in la for getting ready and prepping and all that and stuff and yeah i don't know why come to salt

lake and work at this go to i don't understand maybe they have some reputation they're they're the gym of the stars or something and i just don't know about it here it is jim jones the mind is primary train with us Jim Jones seminar oh they're fair apparently they're kind of fancy so this is like that no kidding yeah this is a place you go and you're like rich and serious I was going to say you could tell because of A the the people that they showcase uh who are probably household names in the fitness world yeah and um and B the excessive use of just black and white yeah oh yeah look at that and they're

all just rock hard sweaty men yeah yeah it's a downtown i'd never heard of it that might be fun to see um there's a picture on uh i just did an image search too and there's a picture of uh henry cabal out there working out so that's cool oh cool nice gym to the stars i still think the name is weird jim jones and it is it is really weird yeah don't drink the kool-lade guys um i did my saturday morning workout i've been doing tuesdays thursdays and saturdays and Saturdays, although this week because of the wedding, I don't want to be a crumply little mess trying to stand up there and do the dearly beloved stuff. So I'm wondering if I'm going to do a Thursday session. I'm definitely doing Tuesday. And if I feel good enough, I try and I try and do

a Wednesday right after it. But I'm did my start at the beginning of September. And so I've done my 10th or 11th session on this last Saturday. And it's with Regina, who I've talked about before she's the, the little pixie, um, like, little pixie who could bench press me. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let's make so little. Yeah. But, but now that she's, you know, in those first few classes, gone up and, like, talk to me about my form and getting like my positioning right when I'm, you know, lifting weights or when I'm doing stretches or things like that, now she does it every time. So it's, she's like every time. She's, all right, Brian, um, So when you do this lunge, let me, go ahead and put your butt on the chair there and stretch your leg out as far as it can go.

Okay, that's where that lunge should start. I'm like, okay, thanks. Yeah. And it is helpful. I mean, I'm not going to. It's at this stage, though, right? You are at a stage where she's going to start pushing you over certain levels. I'm just waiting for the next person to join so she can have a new.

She can be the new new newbie trainer. Is that her deal? The newbie. Exactly. Yes. That's funny. I'm glad it's going good, though. It sounds like it's going all right.

It's going great. Yeah, I'm down since the beginning of September. I'm down eight pounds. That's good. So, yeah. That's great. Eight pounds is great. Geez.

I can fit into my pastor uniform for Thursday. Are you, so how much of a memorized sort of script are you doing? Are you just winging it? Zero memorized. Yeah. I'm not leaving that up to chance because. I'm with you.

Yeah. No, I'm scripting it. I even bought a, I bought a little iPad case because I'm not going to go up there. I need the iPad, right? I want something. I'm not going to do it off my phone. Mostly because I think that'll look dorky like doing off my phone, like an iPad. But I can't use as much as I'd like to.

I'd like to use this as the good book. And maybe even put like a, you know, a Bible sticker on the front of it or something. The, what you would call it, the iPad magic case or whatever this thing is called. Sure. But I bought a one-hand case that has a. little slip in that you put your hand in the back so that oh nice is it made for this sort of thing is it well i guess it for presentations and or anything like that's made for presentations things like that yeah exactly so like my hand just kind of goes in a little a little holder thing

and then um you know i don't have to worry about accidentally dropping it or anything like that but i uh ran the the script by mattie yesterday and she said it was perfect and there was such there was a part of me that was like oh my god please don't add a hundred things to Yeah. Yeah, because the problem with the, you get feature creep on weddings. We talked about this last week a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's feature creep. Like, oh, let's add the thing where we jump the broom or let's add the thing where we wrap a glass and a towel and smash it with our feet or whatever. Yeah. But I just have to learn how to do the hand fasting. I got to practice the hand fasting so that we don't need the jaws of life to separate the two of them when the wedding's over. Yeah, you don't want that. Like Jeff Probst is going to come out and say, all right, Survivors ready. See if you can get these.

He's nuts on time. Go. Well, that'd be amazing. Props, that's this wedding. It would be amazing. Let me see what I could do. Hey, I figured something out last night about you. Do you want to hear this?

Sure. This is about you specifically. I'm watching from and loving it, of course. All right. I'm almost done. How far are you? I think I'm almost done with season one. I think I'm episode nine now.

Something like that. There's 10. So I think I'm only got one and a half left. It's really great. I love it. But something I noticed. Yes. I think.

you like this kind of thing so lost like stuff because you it's your love of puzzles and and not knowing the answer and then getting clues and trying to suss out what those clues are and

working through them as the thing go like I think that's the draw for you. I think that's the big draw. Do you agree with that? Yeah. Absolutely. This series is like a big escape room basically. It's like oh if that person maybe would talk to this other person about the symbols they're seeing and this person would say oh what about this little kid walking around the white the white jimmy shorts and what about this guy over here and blah blah blah it's totally it is

totally that is uh because that's why i like survivor too same like survivor because it's puzzles and stuff like that so scripted or non-scripted it doesn't matter right the real housewives of orange county would have a challenge every week and i don't mean the challenge of getting through uh one meal together without throwing glassware at each other or the challenge of you making it through an episode we don't mean that challenge. That is the bigger challenge. That is, yeah, that would absolutely be the bigger challenge. That's the big prize. No, that's interesting because as I'm watching it, I'm like,

that's why he loves this stuff. It's like a big game. You know the character who thought it was a at first thought it was a big expensive escape room and then learned it wasn't? The one I hate. I'll just say Jade. Jade's an ass. Jade, sure, Jade. You're going to like, you're going to like Jade once you meet Randall.

Oh, shit. Well, Jade, something about Jade. is so like dead familiar to something else I've seen like almost like it's a not a ripoff but almost like it's an exact duplication of a role I've seen somewhere homage of a character that you've seen before I cannot put my finger on it just I can't figure it out yes it's driving me crazy some character and an ensemble piece that um you know that's got that kind of that's got a jade character in it and uh and not just his personality like how he looks even something

about him his beard his face his attitude his personality everything about him is almost like every time i see him i go i swear this is lifted and then i pause and i go hunting for it and i can't find i don't know what it is it's really good though we're gonna find it we're gonna figure it as more people watch it we know i know jk grammars started watching a couple other people have reached out to me and said that they're watching it loving it um it's very good yeah i'm i'm one episode left of season two and and then it's like oh now i'm almost now i'm pretty much cut up now it's just the week to week stuff that i got to watch but uh it's so good yeah amazon prime people yeah it's where it's on prime currently and i guess it's getting pulled soon or something or you have to

that's what jk grammar says yeah so so far it's good it's there i guess tomorrow i'll find out because it's the first but uh that's when they're supposedly getting pulled so we'll see what happens i'll switch to mgm plus it's fine i'll do it yeah yeah i'm gonna pay for a month or i've already paid for a month of MGM Plus, because they've got a couple movies up there that I want to watch. Oh, I watched The Witch last night, by the way. Oh, the Vavich. I came out of the film sec. The Vavich. It's so good. And a Taylor Jajoy.

Yeah. I love that movie. Anya to Taylor Jujoy. Yeah, that is so freaking good. Yeah. It's really good. And it's almost, it's almost Shammalan-esque. Oh, yeah. Yeah, very much. There's no like big twist or anything, but it has that vibe for sure. Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah.

In a good way, though, right? We're not talking about the... In a good way. Yeah, we're talking about six cents. And I even think, I mean, the village is obviously what it seems to evoke thoughts of the most. Not that it has anything to do with the twist in the village. But that 600s, 1630s timeframe. But my God, great.

There is not a bad actor in that whole thing. Even the kids are good. brand of there's only five actors, but there's not a actor in that whole thing. No, the kids are amazing. They're so good. The son or the boy that goes through his whole thing. When he's doing that thing where he's, that long monologue that that kid has to deliver in such an powerful, incredible way. Holy poop.

Yeah, he's very good. The goat's even good. I really like the goat. Black Phillip. Black Philip or whatever his name was. And then the dad and the mom are co-game of Thrones parents because you got the area. lady the mom's the weirdo in the airy yeah she's the weirdo in the airy yes the moon door mother then you got one of the iron price guys and uh he's awesome it's so good you guys if you haven't

seen the witch freaking stop what you're doing that's on hulu right now and i gave you to you the choice i said the witch or mandy what do you want to watch tonight and she said uh the witch probably chose the right one she does not want to watch mandy so i guess mandy i'm going to watch on my own mandy is legit weird as shit cool all right cool give you the weirdo creeps like like uh lanthromos weird oh yeah yes okay okay like if lanthromos was really into the horror angle yes yeah this would be a him movie okay yeah it's very weird but but it's good in a in a weird way it when you see long legs we're gonna need to talk about it because i think i think long legs is both improved by nick cage's performance and almost ruined by it oh really it's hard to

explain you have to see it so we will talk about it but i just there's something wrong there i cannot put my finger on it it's weird tina tina hate long legs you think or like long legs i think she would hate it okay so maybe i'll maybe i'll watch long legs instead of mandi that's on tell me it's not on shutter i think it is on shutter i think i'm not i'm not getting another uh another service not not paying for another service right now let's see long legs 24 uh fanding What is that? Oh, you know what? I take it. You can only rent and buy. I'm sorry. You know, that's how... Oh, because it's that new. That's right.

I saw it on a plexy-plexy-plexy way to see it. Oh, I might, I know. I have access to some of those plexy-plexy ways. Yeah, yeah. I'll use that. Yeah, use that. It'll be good. Oh, that's right. That's the one you mentioned with Alicia. Vit. Vit. Oh, she's so weird. Also, also trying to decide if I want to watch Immaculate, the Sidney-Sweeney. Yeah, me too. I haven't seen it either, but I keep hearing that it's got some real strengths and some

problems, but I do want to see it. I like, I think she's very compelling. I mean, I watched Euphoria. I don't know if anyone, have you seen it? Have you watched Euphoria at all? No, I'm not yet. And I think, I think I need to based on how what everybody's saying about how good it is. Everyone's good in it.

Like, the acting in Euphoria is what sells it and makes it great. It is a really rough watch, though. Like, it's not, it ain't for the lighthearted. I'll say that. But the performances are good. And she's very good. So I really like that she's getting this big career, and I wish people would stop focusing on her boobs

because she's way better than just her boobs. Yeah, yeah. Hate that. What are we living in the 50s? What's going on here with the movie? Well, she does find a way to show them, even in a movie about a nun. That's true.

There's something to do that, but yes, I agree. I think, yeah, exactly. Maybe do a couple of roles where you don't show them, let's see, you know, let's see how you do. Her SNL time was flat. oh it was not great it was not great that's a bummer

quick question is Stephanie and a pet's keyboard really locked on key caps lock or she's just doing that she's just doing that but she said that today is the last day of all caps nobody give her any hate

you could make it the last 30 seconds of all caps instead of last day I think she wants a clean September break oh okay I like that she didn't get topless and white lotus

guy I thought everybody got top it didn't even Aubrey Plott I think got topless and White Lotus. It's a part of the contract. You're just like... Yeah, you either shit in a suitcase

or you take your top off. It's one of the two. Yeah, one of those two. You take, you pick. You get to pick before you get into that thing. All right. Well, let's get to this one. This is another text from a no name.

Says, I'd like it to be known that the word snicked and boing the night before you and Brian used them for Tad Pooley Feud. This guy used them the night before we did it. Now, I don't know what kind of of flex that is that's a weird one it is a weird flex but i'm curious as to how he used sucked in boiling the night before yeah what was yeah what was the what was the give us the use

case give us the context there uh anonymous listener anonymous uh emoji man dude with no name true it would be a woman uh all right shall we play a game let's play a game i think done away is down yep he's in and uh we'll do a little check-in on and see how things are going over there, hopefully better than they were. And the reconstruction process and the small town he lives in is underway. After the nasty storm known as Helena. Was it Helena? Helena. Helena. Or just Helen. Helena? What was the name of that damn storm, Brian?

It was Helena. This storm was Helena. Hellenus. All right. Sorry, I was getting into the game. You're all good. Hey, Brian Dunaway. How you doing, man? oh hi scott and bryne i'm doing all right uh these sun's out the guns are out no sun's out and uh you know there's uh it's drying up in places and we're starting to see places to get power back on and i'm seeing a lot of trucks from out of town coming in so feels good

you got people coming to help kind of thing yeah i'm waved them as they go by like a little you know a little eight year old hey do you pull the you pull the imaginary horn uh Do you do that? What am I? Six? No, I just said him eight. Hold on a second. So are these like FEMA people or is this just like volunteers?

Yeah, I think like last Thursday or Friday, I didn't know this information until more recently because I had no data connection. I couldn't even call anybody next door. Anyway, from what I understand, this is different companies, volunteering staff to come down, as happens lots of times when you have hurricanes. in a big affected area. So I think a lot of these are just companies from out of town who have sent people in dedicated so many resources. So nice. That's good.

Yeah. No, it seems like the beginning of all the right things to get you guys rebuilt and all set to go. Any power at home yet? Are you still stuck with work generators and stuff like you? No power at home. And let me tell you something about the southern heat. Yeah, sure, it's like 85 degrees most days. But there's, it's not raining, but it's almost like.

100% humidity. It just sticks to you. It's like, get off me. It sounds miserable. Yeah, I don't like that. Trying to sleep at night and it's just like it's just trying to smother me. Are you, they give you any kind of ETA on that stuff? Do you have any idea? They're saying

Friday for the majority. Right? But of course, all that's dependent upon how the weather holds up. Make sure there's no big things. But they've had like three days to kind of like assess everything. At first I was getting kind of like antsy. I was like, what's going on? Why's it taking

so long? I don't see anybody out. But then, you know, you start reading stuff. I'm like, oh, yeah, of course. They've got to access it. It's such a large area. This is unprecedented for the size, for most of these people, you know, making plans on how to tackle this. So, yeah, it takes a couple of days. But they're starting to move now.

They've got a plan. And they're executing it. The good news is, the closest one to hitting you ever again would be this one called Joyce, but it's way out in the Atlantic. pretty far. Yeah. Very unique situation for this particular hurricane for our area.

Yeah. And we've, you know, we haven't seen anything this big in at least 30 or plus years. And I've never seen personally anything this big in my entire life. I'm 52. So she said, you're an old, you're an old bastard. I'm an old dude. Yeah. I'm a half a century, baby.

We all are. We're going to make, we're all making it to 100, though. You watch. We're going to be like Angie Dickinson. We'll be 100. I mean. Oh, do you hear we had two major deaths yesterday. The cop from Beverly Hills cop forgot his name.

Not not, not, not close to her. Judge Ryanhold, but the other one. The other guy, he just passed. And then I forgot his name. And then Chris Christopherson died. Yeah. That crusty old guy. I loved him, dude.

I did too. Yeah. What a great songwriter. Like me and Bobby McGee, which which is a great, when you think about the original. you know, he wrote it about a woman, and then Janice Joplin used the same name for a dude to describe a dude. And it's like, oh, this is kind of the perfect song to write to get covered. Sunday morning coming down.

I mean, the guy was really, really good. He was great. Like, a lot of people just think of him as acting, but, yeah, his music was unbelievable. Yeah, well, if you think, if you saw Millennium, you don't think of him as acting. That's true. That's true. If you saw Starsborn, sure. Yeah.

And Blade and all that. Yeah. But I checked on Search TMS, and we have not talked about Christopherson in one time. Yeah, now that we have this tool, we can prove that we didn't kill these actors. That's amazing. Exactly.

Yeah. Thanks again to Josh, I think. I got to try to go to lunch with that guy. We're going to talk about ways to position that thing. Anyway, hey, Donneway. Let's get into that game. Let's play this game. We're going to let Brian here explain it and talk about who's going to win what and all that stuff.

So Brian, take it away. Right on, right on. Welcome to the morning half asses, a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brian a category and six possible answers. Three of which are correct, and three like my pronunciation of bulk are incorrect. Depending on how confident you feel, the category, they can provide one, two, or three guesses. But if any of those guesses are wrong, you get

Zilcheroni for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, two right, gets you three points, and three right gets you five points. We're going to add up all those points at the end of the round, and, you know, in a strange twist, we're going to see who has more, and that person is going to win. And the person you're playing for is really going to be the winner, because they're going to get some cool games. Scott, you're playing for Stephen. in Rochester, New York. Could be Stephen Dorff. I don't know.

Could be. Yeah, why not? Speaking of Blade. That guy was in Blade. Right, oh, right. Yeah, there you go. Ryan, you're playing for Riland, aka DuRog in the Tadpool.

Durrach. In Wilmar, Minnesota. Nice. DuRog. Hey, besides the Blade, one of the blades or two of the blades that we watched, I think we saw two blades for Film Sack. We also,

the only other Christopherson movie. Oh, no, we did payback. He was the bad guy in Payback, and then he was, the ultimate boss in payback and then he was also in um oh uh convoy remember convoy we got a great big old convoy yeah sorry that all came to me so we have not done millennium as a no uh for film sack no it's so rarely it's so rarely streaming that i can understand why but we need to uh if you have not seen that movie if you have not seen that movie oh my god have you seen it brian

I can't remember. I thought I had, but I'm not sure. I think Cheryl Ladd, and they're in the future. In the fuch. I remember the fuch. Oh, I remember this. Oh, I actually like this. Future.

Like, you have to constantly smoke cigarettes because that makes the air palatable for you to smoke, for you to breathe. And it's, um, yeah, I was, I said a lot, I like this, but I really should have said, I was entertained. Yeah, yeah, you're entertained by it. Oh, Daniel J. Trevante was in it. Nice. Yes.

They basically, the people in the future, time travel back and get airplanes that are about to crash. Yeah. And then re and then move those people to other time periods. Give them old. They knock them out, wipe their memories and give them old-timey outfits so that they can blend in with. And it's a great, it's a great like, you know, talking point, right? It's like, oh, what happened if you did this? But then you watch the movie and like, oh, yeah, we shouldn't talk about it.

We have to see this, dude. Yeah. It's so bad. Some of these images, oh my gosh, this robot? Oh, yeah. There's like a robot. Yeah, it's like a sort of a C3PO, C3P-Fo, basically. T-3-P-P-O, I love it.

You know, it's T-Mu-3P. No, T-Mu-P-O. I love it, love it. T-Mupeo. Yeah. Hardly, like, I never see this thing streaming, so we're going to have to figure out some way of watching it. I bet it's on YouTube or something. Yeah, another, we get a Plex friend.

The problem is that nobody else, we want to make sure most people, look and see it, so we always try to. We didn't do Millennium in 2011, Matthew Sargent. He says we did, but we didn't. I swear we didn't. He thinks we did, but we didn't. I looked it up. We didn't do it. I mean, according to the Quicksack. Are you spelling it correctly for your search?

Yeah, ML, M-I-L-E-N-N-I-U-M. Okay. Same as the list. Better provide a link, Matthew. Yeah, you think we watched it. You better, you better come with receipts. Proof. Picks or it didn't happen. All right, let's get to the morning half-asses. And then I'll talk about the prizes later on.

All right. Let's start because we're entering horror season. We're entering spooky season. Horror. Let's talk about a little Edgar Allan Poe. And if you have not watched the fall of the house to usher, there's a good hint to watch it. Women in the title of Edgar Allan Poe works.

So you're right there, Brian? Yeah, I think he's a little, oh. Are you there, Brian? Are you there? Dunaway? maybe he's not did you mute no i see him greening but he's not we're not hearing him uh oh the is the stormback has helena decided to reap her reward brian dunaway you're there don't away don't know if he can hear us glad you heard that because i didn't notice

hey he's he's he's got the rings of speakage but uh we do not hear him hopefully he will uh oh there he is i must be back must be back now hi you're good now sounds like he just like muted us because the boss came in or something. I don't know what you did. Boss mute. Boss mute. Cool. All right.

Let's get to, so women in the title of Edgar Allen Poe works, you've got Annabelle Lee, Shashime, Lygia, Lygia, Lenore, Elizabeth, and Drizella. Good Lord. These are women in the title of Edgar Allen Poe works. This just seems insane. I don't know any of these. Like, where's the crow? Is her name the crow? All right.

That's the Ravens guy. Or the rain, what is, it's at the crow shit. Sometimes they come back as a crow. You know, the 1994 N recently remade the crow. Let's see here, probably those two, and I have no confidence. Those two? Say I'm out loud. No.

I won't do it. I refuse. You got to pick your own, you butthole. I'm looking. I'm looking. Go ahead. All right. He's locked.

He's locked in. All right. Let's get to it. Let's see. You guys both. settled on two, and you both settled on Lenore. You know, Lenore is the character that he's writing his thing to in The Raven.

But there's also another work of his that has Lenore. I believe, or is it, or is it, is it, is it an extension of the name? Nope, there's just one called Lenore. Okay. Okay. So very good. You guys both got that one.

One of you settled on Elizabeth. The other one settled on Drizella. Oh. I'm going to tell you right now. Dris, you got to drop the Drizz. Yeah. Drop the Drizz. Not one of those is right. Annabelle Lee and Ligia with the other two. Shishimi made sense.

It's not on there. But Annabelle Lee. Yeah, but Annabelle Lee does sound like a, I should have picked that. That sounds more like a really. Annabelle Lee is, when I did this one, I said Annabelle Lee and Elizabeth, so I got it wrong. Lenore, by the way, Bill Doeotreeves ex-wife on King of the Hill. Oh, really? Yeah, he's always lamenting the loss of Lenore.

Yep, that's right. Tina's late grandmother was Lenore. Oh. Yeah. It's a good. It's an old name, but you don't hear much now, do you? You don't hear a lot of. You don't right now. No. Yeah. All right.

Number two, boxing weight classes. Which of these are actual real boxing weight classes? Yeah. Heavy bantam weight, light heavy weight, middle heavy weight, cruiser weight, super feather weight, and ultimate welter weight. Oh, my gosh. Which three of these are real boxing weight classes? I they all sound fake they do yes

I think though I'm doing two again because I don't know I don't know okay all right once again you guys both settle on super feather weight and that is a correct answer absolutely right one of you said cruiser weight the other one said heavy bantam weight one is right one is wrong

so somebody's walking away from this round with some points who is it Brian on this one was only one I was sure of Damn it. Cruiser weight is correct. Light heavy weight, which is a really oxymoron of a boxing weight class, is the other correct one. Heavy Bantam weight, middle heavy weight, and ultimate welter weight are not boxing weight.

What is a cruiser weight? Someone tell me what a cruiser weight is. What is that? No idea. I don't need that. I was going to say, like, what's the cruiser? Like, that's a weird thing to say. Like, Bantam, I kind of know the definition of and all these.

but I don't know what cruisers are. That's weird. I know. I've seen people on a cruise. Are you talking about that weight? Yeah. That's really weird. That's fine, though.

Okay. All right. So, Brian, going into round three with three points. Scott, you need to make a big move to get some points here. And you might be able to do it with sports, Canadian NHL teams who have won the Stanley Cup. Which of these Canadian NHL teams have won the Stanley Cup? Winnipeg Jets, the Edmonton Oilers, the Calgary Flames, the VIII. Vancouver Canucks, the Toronto Maple Leafs, and the Quebec Nordiques.

All right. I have to do the three if I'm going to compete here. Yeah. Two will get you a tie at best. Three will, uh, could potentially win you the game if you choose the right three. These all, I don't know, I don't know NHL. I don't either. This might as well just say Canadian name and then some weird things.

I love what it says. I mean, I love hockey. And of course, these names are familiar, but I don't love hockey so much that I I have a deep understanding of all the Canadian winners, so this is going to probably suck. I've chosen my... I'm going down in flames. I went with three. If I'm going to be wrong, if I'm going to be wrong, I'm going to be really wrong.

Yeah, good. And you both did lock in with three. You both said Calgary Flames. Calgary Flames is correct. You both said Toronto Maple Leafs. Yeah. And the Toronto Maple Leafs is also correct. One of you said Edmonton Oilers.

The other one said Vancouver Canucks. I love this The fact that you guys One of you is about to win And the other one is about to lose The correct answer Yeah the Edmund Toilers Yeah

They won five times They didn't win this last time sadly But they did win five other times So congratulations Scott Pulling it through at the end of five Take that Nicely done Take that jerks

I completely guess They were just names I like Those are teams I like Good good guess Ambassador Domo says that we did do Millennium for FilmSack 86, but we misspelled it as the title. So that's why QuickSack isn't pulling it.

Now that's freaking funny. Is that true? I knew I'd seen it. Hold on. Which episode, 86 you say? 86. Okay, I should be able to search by that. An episode we'd like to 86.

That might as well been a different lifetime. Oh, my gosh. I knew I'd seen it. I don't remember it at all. Okay. How did we spell it wrong? Because now I can't find it. M-I-L-L-L-1-M.

1. Me, I am Oh, we did. What the Frick, how do I have Zero memory of this? Zero memory of that movie. Oh, my God, probably you're like you than the rest of us, apparently. Jeez, 86. That would have been back on,

let's see, 2011, yeah. Jeez. That's what we recorded on Thursdays, by the way. That was a Thursday night episode. Oh, my God. We used to do film sex on Thursdays. Really? Long time ago.

Yeah, that I remember somehow. I do, yeah. I don't know why. But anyway, look at that score. I feel pretty good about the wind. Oh, what did our people win, by the way? We didn't talk about the games yet. What did they didn't talk about who played, by the way.

Because, oh, yeah, we did. Stephen D., who might be Steven D. You're going to be getting a couple games, but you're getting an extra code because the first game, we were here forever, courtesy of Yanna, I believe. Yeah, it's an escape room game that requires two people. So you're getting two codes,

so you can give the code to one other person, Who has it on Steam or get it on Steam, and the two of you play together. How cool is that? You're also getting a game called Real Politics, but spelled with a K, so it's European Real Politics, which is a lot more fun than American politics. Ryland, you're getting a copy of Conglomerate 451. Is that the temperature at which conglomerate burns? I mean, you know, we'd have to ask a real scientist what that is.

That's great. But all of those are good, by the way. great games all around. I've heard really good things about that co-op one, but I haven't played it myself, but I've heard good things. So you guys are, you guys are definitely winners. Oh, you'd love the, there's a full-blown escape room game. I think it's just called Escape Room.

Anyway, I think it even has a VR mode. You could play it on your, you'd have to tether it. Yeah, I've done that, which is kind of like an escape room. What's the bomb in the briefcase that you basically get, you know, the people not looking at the game have to, Oh, stop doing something or it explodes or something like that. Yeah. Stop for my bomb will shoot. Stop or my mom will throw you from the train.

My bomb will shoot. Stop or I will set us up the bomb. Yeah. That's it. Colin Owen doesn't have a friend. I always makes those two movies. Yes. I played that one. That's a lot of fun.

That's great. I'm stoked for our two winners and also for Brian Dunaway for being such a great sport today, especially given the circumstances on the ground down there. We continue to hope things improve quickly for you there. in the meantime, we are planning on trying to do a play retro this week. It'll be a short one or early one because Dunnway's got to quickly get out to the meetup like you guys are all going to. Yeah, yeah, that's the hope anyway. Either Wednesday or Thursday, wherever me and Scott can squeeze in and whatever power will allow.

Yeah, we'll figure something out. Thank goodness we're not doing Asheville. Ashville, poor Asheville, man. Oh, that broke my heart because we just went to Ashville. Yeah, we did last year. We went to checked out Citizen Vinyl and had some dinner or lunch out there. was great and man the flooding video i've seen is horrific so bad yeah i feel bad for everybody there um well anyway done away i'm in the meantime uh go breathe in some sweet 100% humidity air

and uh you know lick a lick a frog i don't know this this soup that we call an air yeah i'll do this the air so thick you can chew it mm-mm bye now all right there he goes there we go good game today everybody. We're now going to do no news because we're out of time. No news. No news. I'm sure someone will submit that. They always do. We're going to take a break though. When we come back, Stephen will be back. Very excited to talk to him. We're going to talk about trademarks and superheroes, which is an interesting topic. Oh, fun. Okay, cool. Looking forward to that. That's a really good question. Before that, though, Brian's got to present a song that we will play. I will indeed. We're going to New York State for this one. Punk rock band,

called The Jukebox Romantics. They have a brand new single that they recorded for the original film Meat Lovers, which is a micro-horror film that's running around in festival showings currently. This song is great. Works on its own without, I didn't even watch the video for it. Just listen to it, but apparently there's a video for it. Here are The Jukebox Romantics and Packing Up My Knives from the original film Meat Lovers. It takes you by surprise

There's nothing left behind The shadow's soft inside my tortured mind waves are prey A silhouette creeps in My chance is looking thin to get myself outside this man in house to be free to sin, free to love, to just exist without looking over my leg shoulder. Free to sin, free to live, to just exist without living in this constant torture. Just take us to the underground, and we'll be sleeping safe and sound, yeah, buried in the underground end, you can call us lost and found, yeah. I've waited way too long, now I can't breathe, choking on my promise. change to let the demon sleep

If I can't be true to me They'll eat myself Run Just packing up my knives And running outside to be Free to send Free to live To just exist

Without looking over my shoulder Free to send Free to live To just exist Without living in Cause it's torture Just take us to the underground And

We'll be sleeping safe and sound Yeah Buried in the underground And You can call us lost and found Yeah I believe I believe in a better way

I can see where all corpses and we all decay I'm awake, quite awake in a blue day Not afraid, Unafraid of what's coming next I'm awake I'm awake

I believe I'm awake in a better way I'm awake Quite awake I'm not afraid I believe I believe I believe

we're all corpses and we all decay Just take us to the underground And we'll be sleeping safe and sound Yeah There ain't in the underground

Thousands of ants sprang into action, swarming up and down, swarming up and down the length of the wiener. Oh, Jacob, it stinks so bad like marijuana. And we return. Tell me about that song again. Sure. That's New York State punk rock favorites. The Juke Bucks Romantics in their brand new single and music video, packing up my knives that they recorded for the original film Mehta Lovers. Excellent. Seek it out, people. Look for it. Asked for it by name. Yeah, ask for it by name. Or I guess search for it by name.

That's how it works today, these days. All right, we're going to, we're going to call Stephen, and we're going to play his thing here, right here. And now welcome Stephen to the show. He's a huge freaking nerd. Dollar, dollar bills, y'all. Yeah, he's a big nerd, and he's one of our favorite nerds. Comes on here once every other Monday,

although things have been crazy lately with Mondays. Our apologies to both Stephen in there. Oh, we got a list of that. We got that slow motion robot business on your end, like that one time. Okay, hold on. I miss this. remember if you can remember what you did to fix it last time those two x players at home they're hearing stephen at his normal voice that's right that's how i like to think of it uh now how

what's say it again let's hear you again hello hello yeah perfect well done i'm sorry chat room just says uh de kimbe matumbo also passed away today what it was everyone he was everyone dying what's going on he was the denver nugget for a long time he was great he was a great nugget he He was one of the best nuggets. He was one of the best nuggets. He was never chicken from Yokic, but of course. Yeah, yeah. No, he was a great nugget.

Wow. Brain cancer? Shit. Oh, man, that sucks. Only 58, too. Yeah, that sucks. Everyone stopped dying for just a minute. All right.

Stephen. Did you guys talk about Maggie? She, uh, uh, uh, oh, Maggie Smith. Yeah. That's pretty rough. There, there are, there are three actresses that I would love, I would have loved to have met. I'll never meet any of them.

But the three. her, Maggie Smith, and Helen Mirren. If I could meet those three women, I could, like, be good on, like, I don't need to meet any other actors anymore. I'm good. Oh, sorry, Brian cut out. What did you say?

You said, who's something? Who's the third? Who's the third? Who's the third? Because you counted Maggie Smith twice. Did I? Oh, I said no. You said her, Maggie Smith.

Oh, what I'm sorry. I meant Judy, I meant Judy Dench, Maggie Smith, and Helen Marin. Sorry, did I not say Judy Bench? I must not. I'd like to meet two Maggie Smiths I'd be all right yeah well I mean who wouldn't yeah

well Stephen it's good to have you here we're going to talk a little bit about the who owns trademarks to superheroes now one would think it's just as simple as like well hey we're Marvel we own Spider-Man or hey we're DC and we own Superman but it's not that simple is it it's like complicated so

first of all I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on any podcast but we're going to talk about an area of law today that is a little complicated and that is copyright and trademark. Obviously, when we talk about copyright, this podcast that everybody is listening to is copyright. Right. The incident that it's created is copyright frog pants, which is an LLC owned by Scott Johnson. However, Scott Johnson cannot copyright the title of the morning stream. Nope. So that means if anybody out there wants to retitle their show, the morning stream,

they can do that. What Scott can do to protect the morning stream is he can trademark the title of the morning stream. That one you can do. And I don't know if you've trademarked that Scott. No, because basically here's what would happen. You trademark coverville. Yeah, if somebody came along and said, hey, we're doing this thing called the morning stream, we got all this money behind it, and you're about to get, like, you know, you're about to get blocked or whatever. I'd just say, nah, we'll call it something new. Yeah, I know.

I'm not that worried about it. Our listeners will find us no matter where we're at. Yeah, that doesn't really worry about it. But also, you know, there was already, we, that one, the YouTube channel thing that was, what was it, Aaron, whatever in the morning. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, that was really bad.

That was unlistenable. Yeah. The hard part is when people search for TMS, they get the morning show on Apple TV Plus. They get. Right. So you could also trademark TMS as part of, you can also trademark TMS as part of that title. And then you could go after Apple and get those billions upon billions of filthy

Louvre. Yeah. Okay. So back to superhero. So generally you can't copyright or trademark common words like superhero. All right. And that's what we're going to start here with superhero as, two words because this is going to get real complicated really fast.

Yeah. So in 1967, there were a line of costumes made by a guy, Ben Cooper, right? You guys may remember these. These are those plastic ones with the eye holes and the little slit. Yeah, yeah. You guys remember those? It's what I think of when you say Spirit Halloween. I think of that stuff from my childhood.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Came in a little cardboard box with a window on the top so you can see the mask. And then you opened it up and there was that smell that, that, that, that, you plastic smell that is just unrecreatable now. And then it would get all spitty by the end of the day and have a whole new smell. It was awful.

So Ben Cooper had a line of superhero costumes based on the DC and Marvel characters. And he trademarked the Ben Cooper superhero costume as the title of his product. So superhero became

trademarked as part of a much, much larger name. That happened in 1960. So the Patent Office and Trademark and Patent Office just, yeah, okay, we'll make sure that Trade Superhero is yours. Flash forward a couple of years later when we get introduced to the Migo or the Meggo toys. You remember those toys? Oh, yeah. They're not dolls, they're action figures, right? Yeah, but they have removable.

Their clothes or skin, like in the case of the thing, was removable. It was really weird taking Benjamin Grimm's rocks off, but his head stays the same. Yeah. Yeah. Getting his rocks off. Uh-huh. Yeah. Get his rocks off.

So in 1972, the Migo Corporation, they wanted to register world's greatest superheroes. Again, two words, but superheroes instead of superhero. And Ben Cooper came after the Migo Corporation and was threatening to sue for trademark violation. Well, instead of going to court, because that would have been a big fiasco for everybody, Migo assigned the trademark to for their world's greatest superheroes jointly to DC and Marvel and just said, fine, I'm just going to assign this over to DC and Marvel and you, Ben Cooper, if you want to sue Marvel and DC, be my guest. And Ben Cooper was like, oh yeah, I'm not going to do that. So I guess I'll just assign the word superhero to, to DC and Marvel as well. And so for years, DC and Marvel have had the name superhero as their trade.

trademark. They also have superheroes, the plural. There's superhero as one word. There's super hyphen heroes in the case of Legion of Superheroes. And they also in 20, I'm sorry, 1985, registered super hyphen villain as a trademark. Wow. Yeah. And this is, this is kind of a big deal. This was something the bigger that I was working on for later in the year, but it kind of blew up last couple of days and is now all out there in the world. So I'm just going to tell you about. this now. So one of the things about trademarks and really any kind of copyright is you have to protect your trademark. Meaning that if Brian or Scott want to create the superhero podcast, it's up to DC and Marvel to reach out to Scott and Brian and say, oh, no, no, no, you can't do this or we will sue you. And of course, Scott being a good guy, will say, yeah, we will just do something else. People will find us. And everything will go away. Yeah. But the question is, is superhero a common word, and is it common enough in the public usage that it should be trademark? Certainly, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, Paris Hilton tried to trademark

that's hot years ago, and they were like, no, you can't do that. Donald Trump, yeah, Donald Trump tried to trademark you're fired so he could sell a bunch of merchandise, and they said, no, you can't do that. So why then is superhero allowed to do that? Well, you know, it's funny is that they, so you're right about them protecting it. I'm looking at, I just did a quick curse research on both on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. There are so many shows with superhero in it. Like if, yeah, it's almost like the ants beat the grasshoppers that way.

You do enough of these and no one's going to come after you because it's just a nightmare, right? Yeah, or maybe the, maybe the legal departments didn't realize they had it because, again, this started in 1967, although superheroes was registered as a trademark in 2018 and Supervillain was in 1985. So they're still kind of aware of these kinds of. things. And it's rare for the trademark and patent office to award it to two companies at the same time. So one might be wondering, this seems like anti-competitive practices to award a common word like superhero to these two companies. And certainly over the years, Marvel and DC have gone after people who have used the word superhero or superheroes or super villain in the case in 1985, et cetera. And people have backed off on that. But there's a small independent comic

publisher out of London who wanted to title their comic book, Super Babies, Something, Super Babies, Something, Something, Something. Okay. And they went to trademark that. And Marvel and D.C. said, oh, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. And so they were like, why not? And they're like, well, we own the trademark.

And so they got some lawyers together. And they went and tried to file a strike against the word superhero at the trademark in Patent Office. Now, here's the interesting part. You would think that if you were having this trademark strike against you, that you a big, two mega corporations would come forward and say, no, we want to defend this. But on July 24th, 2024, neither company had come forward to defend it. And so just last week, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office said, okay, well, superhero is no longer under trademark. Nobody showed up to court.

So congratulations, David. You beat Goliath. Yeah, I mean, and this is so weird. So why would they do this? Well, one might just say, we're going to shrug our shoulders. It's no big deal. It's such a common word. We're going to look like an evil corporation if we do this.

Mind you, these are the same two companies that have gone after families if they've had a depiction of Superman or Batman on their child's grave. Right, right. These are the same types of corporations that go after you if you want to use Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie prior to the beginning of this year, right? Because of the copyright there. So, you know, these are very litigious organizations, Marvel. Warner Brothers, and for them not to try to defend superhero is just really, really weird. And again, going back to the Mickey Mouse Steamboat Willie thing, certainly they have come out and said, well, Mickey Mouse is now trademarked and we're going to fight that.

So, you know, people just be careful there. And we continue to build upon the brand of Mickey Mouse. So we really don't care that much about Steamboat Willie as that depiction that people can use. This just seems really weird to me that mega corporations would not step up to defend their trademarks, their patents, their copyrights, especially to these types of things. I think it's, I think you were right on, but it's weird. I think that you were right about why. I think that at some point, the ridiculousness of it sometimes misses, sometimes they miss the memo

and they go forward anyway and they all look stupid and have mud on their face. But in this case, I think it is glaringly obvious that going after that and then and then getting the PR backlash that is that is not going to do them any favors, especially. especially at a time where people are already a little weird about, well, you know, we have too many movies and it's, we're sick of Zach Snyder and, hey, Marvel, the MCU sucks right now. You know, they're tired of all this. And the comics business isn't exactly booming, you know, it's not like the, what it used

to be. It's not the tip of the spear leading the, leading the charge. So, you know, doing this and getting all bogged down and I think would have been bad for them. Yeah. And there have been some other big historical blunders. When you need to blow your nose, Scott, what do you use? I use a tissue. Oh, okay, instead of the other word.

Yeah, because Kleenex, Kinex lost their trademark because it came a common word. Same way when you have a headache and you take that little pill that makes you feel better. Aspirin used to be trademarked the Bear Corporation until they lost it. So if somebody, okay, if Frog Pants became a thing where people are just like, I'm going to go grab it the latest frog pants and it meant generally media online. It's never going to happen. Let's say that happened.

I could lose. That would be public, the public would make. me lose my trademark, basically. Now, I don't know if you use this particular application anymore, Scott, but, you know, if you want to go do any photo manipulation or something in an application that lets you create images and layers that you can then manipulate and do stuff, what would you call that? I would call that Photoshopping, even though I don't use it anymore. Adobe doesn't want you to call it Photoshopping because when it becomes a verb, it starts to

fall into that general use, and they lose the trademark to Adobe Photoshop. So what they want you to do is call it Adobe Photoshop. I'm going to take this into Adobe Photoshop and manipulate it. it. Not I'm going to go and Photoshop this. Is Band-Aid like that? Band-Aids are probably like that now. They have defended it. They made sure to defend it. But Band-Aid is one of those that could

very careful. What a weird thing. Can you imagine the court day, the judge and the court day on the freaking Kleenex or Band-Aid case? They're just you're on. That was all the way back in 1900. How are we supposed to bind the wounds of the children of America if we don't have

control of our own? Like what a weird legal copyright right, freaking trademark stuff, you have to admit, it's pretty, it's kind of weird, right? Somebody in the chat says, is podcast owned by Apple? No, it is not. Although Apple would like you to think that it is, it is not a trademark of Apple. And they didn't come up with it in the first place, so. No, they didn't. So, yeah. So, I mean, that being said, I could go out right now and now that you admitted that frog pants is in the morning stream are not trademark. I'm going to go to visit my local trademark and patent office and maybe put Scott Johnson out of business.

That's not exactly true. Prague Pantz is trademarked, but the morning stream is not just given. So it's so common. I was just like, why even bother? Yeah. But I don't know. Like naming shows, here's the problem. Podcasts can be created by anyone, anywhere, anytime.

If you have a phone or a mic, you can just make a podcast, right? So because of that, you could call it, this chicken farts blood. That could be the name of your podcast. And then, and then, I mean, what do you get to do? chicken blood farting it's all the public owns it's all it's all the yeah i don't know that people would use that in common terminology i know a lot of farmers and i don't really remember ever hearing them utter that phrase unless it's like shock and horror and it's uh time to call the whole herd but uh you know sure sure that reminds me you're talking about people you know there um

is it true that you guys have one of the best zoos in the world if not the best there's a lot of talk uh the wichita zoo is that the one that you're talking about because There's a couple. The Wichita Zoo is internationally well known. Okay. It is a, it is a pretty good zoo to go to. The Topeka Zoo has actually got a really impressive rainforest, you know, one of those interior rainforest displays where the animals run around loose. Oh, nice. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. And then there's one. But the Hayes Zoo is really just a rebranded pet smart. It's my backyard. It's my backyard. We just got a new dog over the weekend. It's a horse feed. It's one of those horse feed places where you go buy bags of feet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I love that just because, I don't know, somebody was saying, oh, you got to go to the zoos in Kansas. So, Wichita one is probably the one that people are talking about. Yeah, yeah, probably, yeah, the one in Colorado, it's down Colorado Springs, the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo. I mean, the Denver Zoo, that one's cool, the one that's up on top of the mountain, the Jim, Wayne, not Wayne Rogers Rogers, Roy Rogers, it's the Roy Rogers Zoo. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, it's, it's that whole area is the Roy Rogers Park or something up there. It's really cool. Is it just a normal zoo? They have something special going on.

It's like on the side of a mountain. It's on the side of a mountain. And there's like a chairlifting that can take you to different levels. And you can hand feed all the giraffes. Like the giraffe's enclosure is lower than the sidewalk. So you can stand on the sidewalk and feed the giraffes. You're at head level with the giraffes. Yeah.

Yeah. That's interesting. Well, I didn't mean to change your subject. Somebody asks, Hayes has a cool fossil museum. Yeah, the Sternberg Museum. If you want to get a chance to look at some great fossils, stop at the Sternberg Museum, the home of the world famous, fish within a fish fossil

where you've got a giant fish and inside of it is a little fish that it either swallowed or landed on top of it during the wipeout. It's really cool. Do you want to see an amazing fossils Sue and presentation and like whatever? Go to my mom's book club. Yeah. Oh, you should see these women. Holy Moses.

They're wonderful women, but there are some of them I'm not sure yet. I'd like do this around their face. Make sure they're still moving. Anyway, to their nose. Just to make sure. Well, Stephen, this is a... Just another fascinating note to wrap this all up.

Copyright law has been extended so far that if Scott creates something like this podcast, this podcast is under copyright to Scott Johnson for the rest of his life plus 75 years. So his kids and his grandkids can make money off of this episode if they want far into the future. However, if Scott hires, I don't know what the relationship between Scott and Brian in, but if Brian, whatever he contributes, if he is a work for hire, the podcast is copyright for life of the creator plus 95 years.

95 years. Wow. That's all because of the Sonny Bono Copyright Act from the 1980s, the Copyright Extension Act. Well, that's what happened. He didn't die on the slopes, you know, they went after. Disney got him.

Yeah, Disney got him. That's right. That's what happened. Yeah, no, I didn't know that he, I keep forgetting he was part of that landmark deal. That was like a big deal. Yeah. Sunny freaking Bono.

Wow. What a world. The Sunny Bono Copyright Extinction Act. What a world. We live in a weird world, dude. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, we do. So if people want to know more about this, I've just confirmed that I will be talking with the lawyer tomorrow afternoon about this case.

Yeah. And then hopefully it'll be part of the major spoilers podcast this week that people can go check out. You could get your critters back. Remember that whole thing with the critical hit name? Oh, yeah, I doubt that. We never trade. Marker copyrighted that. Yeah, but you were first.

I remember it. Yeah, we were the first with that, but whatever. And I have friends over there. I know you do. That's why I don't talk to you about it. I still, I mean, once in a while I'll say to them, you know. Especially when one of the people created a character recently named Orham. So, yeah, not bitter.

Not bitter at all. I can tell. Steven, it's a pleasure, as always. I hope Hayes, Kansas gives to you what you give back. All right. It is cooling off, but in the meantime, everybody stay hydrated. Good deal. By now.

Oh, my gosh. Look at that. I've missed your thing. thing, photo. That's amazing. Isn't that great thing, you know, taking his shirt off? Look at that, guys. Look at this. This is amazing. Holy crap. Yeah. And that's that old school thing with the forehead.

What's great is his forearms were still blocky, we're still rocky, right? Oh, right. Yeah, but his body is smooth. Yeah, smooth as a baby's bum. That's really weird. All right. Uh, the nicely done, that's it for the show. If you were looking for ways to contact us, uh, submit song request, find old episodes the show, all the things you might ever need here on the show. You'll find it at frogpants.com slash TMS. The one thing you won't find

yet is the song Brian's about to say and then you will find it because it's in the show. And you'll find it. Yeah, exactly. Oops, got to switch back to September because I had October pulled up. Racer 951-Y wrote in. This is a quick and easy one. He said any cover of or by Blue October

really just whenever you have a chance to use as a filler. Well, today happens to be that day. This is a cover, an plugged acoustic cover of Blue October's arguably their best known song, Hate Me, which I really like such a great song. This is covered by Arizona Sky, and it's really, really cool. Hope you enjoy it. Here is Arizona Sky and Hate Me. I have to block out thoughts of you

So I don't lose my head They crawling like a cockroach Leaving babies in my bed Drop a little reels of tape To remind me that I'm alone Playing movies in my head That make a porno feel like home There's a burning in my pride,

The dub is bleeding in my brain An ounce of peace is all I want for you Will you never call again Will you never say that you love me Just to put it in my face Will you never try to reach me Is it that I wanted space Hate me today

Hate me tomorrow. Hate me for all the things I didn't do for you. Hate me in ways. Yeah, ways hard to swallow. So you can finally see what's good for you. I'm sober now for three whole months. It's one accomplishment that you helped me with. The one thing that always tore us apart is the one thing that I won't touch again.

In my sick way, I want to thank you for holding my head up late at night. Well, I was busy waging walls of myself. You were trying to stop the fight. You never doubted my warped opinions on things like suicidal hate. You made me compliment myself when it was way too hard to take. So I drive so fucking far away that I never crossed your mind. And do whatever it takes in your heart to leave me behind. Hate me the day

Hate me tomorrow Hate me for all the things I didn't do for you Hate me away with Yeah, way's hard to swallow Hey, me so you can finally see what's good for you. And with a sad heart, I say bye to you and wave kicking shadows on the street for every mistake that I made

And like a baby boy, I never was a man Till I saw you blue eyes cry And out your face in my hand Then I fell down Yell and make it go away Just make a smile come back and shine Just like it used to be Then she whispered

How can you do this to me? Hate me today Hate me tomorrow Hate me for all the things I did it do for you Hate me in ways Your way's hard to swallow Hate me so you can finally see what's good for you.

For you. For you. This is for you This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes, get more at frogpant.com. Oh, what am I going to do?