The Morning Stream - TMS 2714: Skanky Pigeons

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Texas as hell. The iPad of Honor. The Famous Bob. A nutty cult. Dry, Bitter and from Georgia. We are the World Colon. Pecans. May Contain Nuts. Meat Pants. Everyone's Unheard of Until They're Heard Of.... Less Cruel. More Unusual. I don't like Pigeon Herpeeeeees. I'll make your Ass Pretty. I'm an Aesthetician. Pulling it out like Doug Henning. Triple Address Greg. Ruining Thanksgiving With Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Like the Legend of the Phoenix, all ends with beginnings. What keeps the planet spinning, the force from the beginning. That sounds like nonsense. It kind of is. But it really is just a reminder to join our Patreon at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, Texas is hell. The iPad of Honor. The famous Bob.
Starting point is 00:00:18 A nutty cult. Dry, bitter, and from Georgia. We are the world, colon. Peacons may contain nuts. Meat pants. Everyone's unheard of until they're heard of. Less cruel. more unusual.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I don't like pigeon herpes. I'll make your ass pretty. I'm an ass the tition. Pulling it out like Doug Henning. Triple address, Greg. Roaning Thanksgiving with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. No worries, pals.
Starting point is 00:00:50 He's too dumb to suspect the thing. Loving familiar. Just don't you get out of the last moment, gentlemen. Oh, right. Lottie just left to go to Moonshade Town. You should follow her. The Morning Stream. I think that'll do.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Hey, everybody, welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for October 3rd, 24. I'm Scott Johnson. and Brian Dibbitt is here also. Yellow! We had a huge discussion pre-show about Brian's wedding. He's performing today, not his wedding, but the wedding he's performing. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Just the whole next 24 hours of everything that is going to be happening and how it's more than one man should ever have to do in 24 hours. I completely agree. And this is why I encourage so many of you to join our Patreon, not for all the obvious reasons, but one of them is you get these great stories that we tell that you don't get to hear for the rest of the show. So get in there, guys. Be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Hey, a couple things here before we get going on a regular Thursday. And part of this Thursday is that my sister will be here later. So we got some important stuff coming down the pipe there. But I want to play this call. I forgot to play yesterday about trademarks. Oh, okay. Because we had that whole discussion with Liker. Or I'm sure with Stephen about trademarks.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Right. Superheroes and stuff like that. Yeah. And here's what this person says. Hey, guys. I was just listening to TMS 2711, which is interesting number. You guys are talking about trademarks, and you mentioned Band-Aids. And, yeah, they have been, you know, they've been, they don't want their,
Starting point is 00:02:44 they don't want their name genericize, as they call it. It got to the point. I don't know if you guys remember the Band-Aid jingle. You know, I am stuck on Band-Aic, and Band-Aid stuck on me. well back in like the 80s and stuff you would uh they would put brand after bandaid so it's i am stuck on bandaid brand because bandaid stuck on me oh they're trying desperately not to have it become genericized and you know i don't know how it is in 2024 i mean everyone still calls it bandades as a generic term but anyway i just found i found that interesting love the show i forgot about them adding that to it
Starting point is 00:03:25 That's true. Stuck on Band-Aid brands because Band-Aids are coming on me. Wasn't, and there was, am I, am I Mandela? And now I guess Mandela would be a large group of people misremembering this. Am I misremembering that Curad maybe was like a sister company of Band-Aid, and they used the same jingle and said, I'm stuck on Curad? Or am I? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Am I, I'm looking it up now. I don't, maybe not. Curad, Ouchless bandages. I forgot. these were a thing, you're right? These curesad. Curead. It sounds like something they put in a fallout game to cure your rads that you're getting.
Starting point is 00:04:04 You know? Yeah. We get a bottle of cured. I think I am misremory. I think Curead didn't have a song. It's funny, though. The top search when I did a Google search for Curead was Curead Band-Aids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Which means that everyone does this. You're just screwed. If your brand is so good at having a name, you're just screwed. That's how it is. That's right. They were outchless. Band-Aids or out, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's really funny. Jeez. Yeah, they're, let's see, Curad. Oh, you can buy a ton on Amazon still, but they're still,
Starting point is 00:04:34 they still get listed as Band-Aids everywhere. That's funny. Yeah. I don't know what you do. If you're a company and somebody, and they've genericized your name, it means you were too good at marketing. That's what that is. Yeah, yeah. So marketing is double-edged sword. The one edge of sword is like, yeah, man, everybody wants to buy our product. The other edge is like, oh, no, we've been Oh, no, everybody just thinks our product name is the name, the general name of the, thing is it uh and i think if if chuck or amy is in the chat room they can confirm this there's not other people can confirm this but um generic use of the word coke to describe any soft drink soda yeah south in the south a lot down there in the south east where it's like uh hey
Starting point is 00:05:12 you want some you want a coke oh yeah i'll take a root beer yeah no that's how it was for my wife growing up somebody said coke they thought you basically would hand them like a barks or something they didn't it didn't even you wouldn't even ask you just say here it is right you just take it i don't know where that came from a while you people did that that's a weird one i've always thought that was weird it is really weird yeah but in the case of this it's funny because bandaid is also the name of an of a charitable giant charitable event that happened uh oh yeah right the the um what's it's good the bob gildoff bill bob gildoff deal so that must have made it worse for them do you know what i mean like they're they're riffing off a thing that
Starting point is 00:05:49 has already been reduced to public common wordage and now bob god bob gildoch off comes rolling in and it goes, remember me from the wall anyway, I want to do this thing and then they do it? That's crazy. Boomtown rats. Yeah, no, in the original song, instead of Do They Know It's Christmas, it was going to be, I'm stuck on Band-Aids and it was going to be, you know, Bono having to sing the first, you know, it's Christmas time. I know it's Paul Young. I know. I know Paul Young did the opening line of, do they know it's Christmas. That's fine. Someone out there will, they, you stop them from writing that email and they appreciate it. Paul Young and I loved. I loved. That was, for me, more than...
Starting point is 00:06:29 Way better than we are the world. Way better. Way better. And it was like every single one of my favorite musicians and groups representing that damn thing that's like, ah, the police, ah, banana ramma, ah, Sting. Or I guess Sting's the police. You too.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Paul Young, like everybody that was listening to at the time, boy George and culture club and all that, it's just so, so, it was such a... exponentially better than the other one. Yeah, yeah. I agree with you. I love the story. Oh, the other thing's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:00 The documentary was amazing. I'm sorry, the We Are the World documentary was absolutely amazing. It was really good. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with either of them. My main thing, though, is the We Are the World felt pretentious and privileged. And the other Band-Aid thing, the Gildoff effort, that did not feel that way. It didn't. Yeah, it didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And then the other big difference, too, was, you know, I didn't care about a third of the performers in We Are the World. It's like, oh, Lionel Richie, okay, I know the guy, sure, all night long, hey, that's great song, all right, boo. And then you, Dinah Ross, okay, great, yeah, she was great, love her, okay. Yeah, but the one, and the ones you really like seem like they didn't really want to be
Starting point is 00:07:38 there, you know? Yeah, right. Like Bob, Bob, what's his name? Bob, can't think of his name, Bob, not Denver. The, the famous Bob, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan. He was, he was just, yeah, it was less that he didn't want to be there. like, why you give me so many words to sing? Yeah. And when he's not singing, he's just kind of going, where am I? Why am I here?
Starting point is 00:08:02 And Al Jaro is like, you know, passed out the corner from drinking, taking a shot every time they complete a lyric. You guys got to see that documentary. It's great. It's really good. It's so good. Yeah. Was it you that recommended that the first? I think it was. It might have been Randy, I think. Could have been Randy. Yeah. That was a good watch. Oh, and Huey Lewis, the underrated star of that thing, just like, all right, well, Al Jaro's out. Waylon Jennings walked out when we started saying, you know, that there might be some African chance in the song. We're going to put you in with Cindy Lopper and someone else, and you've got to hold your own and actually do an extra couple lines. Yep, that's a tall order, and he pulled it off.
Starting point is 00:08:47 you did it anyway yeah great great documentary if you haven't seen it what's it called i forgot the name the greatest night in pop music i think that's it i think yeah it's not just it's not simply we are the world colon the story no but if you but if you do if you search we are the world documentary you'll find it yeah you guys will find it's netflix though so that's where you can start your search uh brian you want to eat some pecans how do you feel about yes much of foodie this sealed bag of gilbert pecans been waiting for this uh to show up in my peel box It did yesterday, so we grabbed it last night, brought it home. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Gilbert Peacon Company. I didn't notice this before. There's like a whole, a little brochure. Yeah, a little brochure in there. Texas-shaped. A little gift packages and stuff. Yeah, that's cool. I like that.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Oh, look at the family, the founding family. That's Texas as hell, those people. Look at them. They really are. They're almost, I don't know, little cult going on, maybe. Maybe a little bit. I think more cowboy hats would have been good, not just the one. Like everybody wearing a cowboy hat?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I think that denotes. There's a fine family right there. Oh, I'm sure they're fine, but it denotes a certain patriarchy when only one dude's wearing a hat. That's all I'm fine. Also, that coat on the kid in the front totally was bought with the intention that he will grow into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yes. I can't see it very well on camera, but I agree 100%. We got these from Greg. whose address has written three times on this sheet. I don't know why. Did you get that? Oh, really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Did you get one of that? I did. I get the same thing and I, I, um, shredded the, because it was, there wasn't like, uh, hey, love you guys, love the show, though? Yeah, there's nothing on there. I don't think so. It was just his address, so I shredded it. Yeah, but it's three, it repeats the address, the first line of the address three
Starting point is 00:10:39 times in a row. Yeah. Oh, funny. Weird. Funny. But yeah, Greg from Texas sent this and, uh, because there was a lot of discussion about pecans from Georgia. and pecans from from texas and i think what we're going to come out of this with is a pre an appreciation
Starting point is 00:10:52 for both i think so too also i don't like them at all so this might this might change that's right the georgia pecans for you were just a little too dry flavored like uh too dry yeah yeah too dry and better i want to see if these do any better here's the thing about this gilbert uh logo yeah this is so familiar to me and i can't put my finger on why i know this this logo this name oh i don't know if there's stuff floating around. I think it's just because it looks, it is a, it is a very typical logo. Like, it uses that, that vintage style that people are using right now. So like, you know, there's some coffee roaster out there that's using this kind of like, Gilbert, we've been around for. Yeah. Yeah. These guys are as old as us, start in Santo, Texas in 1969. Yeah, 69, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But this is like 40s industrial art for their logo. Yeah, and I kind of like, I kind of like that look a lot. I do, too. That might be why it's familiar because I just like it. Also says here, this product may contain trace amounts of peanuts and or other tree nuts. So, you know, beware if you're a peanut hater. All right, here we go. I got to open this shit. Or allergic.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Or allergic. That's the important part, yeah. Forget the hating part. You might hate a peanut, but you're not allergic to it. All right. Why don't this? Right. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I can't get in there. You got to tear off the top first. Yeah, I got that, but the thing wouldn't. Okay. Here we go. All right. What do you think? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:17 They are not as dry as the pecans I've gotten at the store that are probably intended for cooking and not intended for snacking on. These are great. I will totally eat these without a lot of guilt because they're, you know, they're a good source of protein. All right. I'll tell you what. As the first person or is the person here who doesn't like pecans generally. Yeah. These aren't bad.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. I mean, I'm immediately reminded. of the flavor of pecan, so I'm immediately bracing for what I don't like about them, but the texture is better. They don't follow. They don't follow with a really dry flavor. These are good. And you know what makes me want right now is some chocolate and some caramel so I can make some turtles. Turtles. You like turtles? I like turtles.
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's great. Well, thank you for that. That's awesome. I'm going to eat more of those. Those are good. Yeah, they're really good. I'm surprised. All right. I don't know why I'm so surprised. I usually hate them. I'm hoping to have some Georgia pecans. We're going to stop at a Buckees, it sounds like so.
Starting point is 00:13:18 While we're at the Buckees, I'm going to go pick up a thing of Georgia pecans. Somebody I follow on TikTok calls it boosies, and I hate it. It annoys me. And they live down there. They're like in Appalachia or something. They're like, we're going to the boosies. And I'm like, it's not boosies. Is it?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Boosies? It's not boosies, right? No. It is so not the boosies. Yeah. Why would you be, you're literally from Appalachia. You go to a Buckees all the time, this person I follow. And she just without, without, I don't know if she's just trying to troll people.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I don't think so. It might be trying to troll people. Maybe. It doesn't seem like she does that for anything else. But she's like, yeah, I'm going to Boosies. And I'm like, maybe locally, like we used to call ZCMI. It was a store here. We used to call it Zikmi because that's what it spelled.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Sure. Sure. We, you know, we've called Target targetta or, um, or, um, what's another one? uh yeah targe right i mean there there's mickey d's stuff like that we you know butcher names like that if the if the hyphen in buckies was between the you and the c i'd see where she's coming from because you wouldn't you wouldn't call it bukeys right buckees you wouldn't call it buckees and that it would make sense that the first two letters would make the boo sound and the the last three might make the c's sound so boo sees should do a contest sometimes
Starting point is 00:14:42 see, get just a vote on which of the TMS memes memes is the most lasting. And I think the bees, the bees guy from Ann Arbor is probably going to be as close as we get to Ultimate. Like, that's a big one. We get it a lot. I don't like bees. That's your original. That's your OG.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Wow. There's so many nuances I forget in that too. Like the little lilt at the end to the bees. Yep. And I also hear that song. The let's see, can I find this? song? Yeah, there it is. This one. Is this it? I don't like
Starting point is 00:15:17 this. I don't like beer. I think goes on for like three minutes of that. And I can listen to that thing for three minutes. That sounds great. I love that really low bass line. Oh, really, really good. Well, anyway, thank you for this. Greg, you're awesome. We appreciate it. Absolutely
Starting point is 00:15:38 better than I'm used to when it comes to pecans. So thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think we grow them here. So whatever we get, we import from somewhere, and we always get the really dry, nasty ones. So I'm all in on this. Yeah. But I'm guessing also that when Kim buys them and the ones you've tried, she buys them to put to bake in this stuff. That's true, usually.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah. So it's kind of like how cooking wine is not the wine you want to drink. Right. I think the baking pecans are not the pecans you want to snack on. Do you have a friend? Well, I don't know. Maybe this is, well, whatever. I had a friend.
Starting point is 00:16:09 One of the Gary's. You always talk about Big Gary Little Gary. Big Gary is the one to put the chicken up his butt and all that. Little Gary used to buy, or no, his mom would have cooking wine, which was just, like you said, you're not meant to drink it. No, it's got a little bit of salt in it and stuff. It is not, that is not a wine you were supposed to drink. Yeah, he would take, like, two bottles of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:16:31 hide it out in the woods where we live, near where we lived. And he'd sneak out there with his friends and drink that and look at his dad's playboy collection that he also snuck out there. He was a weird oh my god. Hi on cooking wine and playboys. He's like 13 doing this and he became kind of famous for it. So all the kids are like, oh, we could go out in the woods and drink and look at naked ladies.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Those old 70s playboys where the women look like they're wearing loincloths. We all had them. Listen, we all had those issues. They were ancillary characters and Beastmasters or something like that. That's right. You know what I forgot is. Beast Master? Just because he just died, but I'd forgotten John Amos was in Beastmaster. Yeah, he was great in that. Yeah, the late great John Amos. They waited like
Starting point is 00:17:22 a month to announce his death. Like he passed away at the end of August and they just announced it two days ago. Yeah, I had an argument with somebody online who said, I said, oh, Jane, because we had just gotten the news on the second, right? So I said, oh, it's too bad. What a loss of, in a string of losses lately. And this guy goes, well, he's such a good actor. He died twice. And he shows me. of the date, the August date, and I said, yeah, but we, yeah, I go, well, we just found out today, though, his family didn't say it. No, that's not true. Look at IMDB. And I'm like, okay, let me go dig it up. And I went in immediately without very much work at all, found a quote that
Starting point is 00:17:57 says, his family waited to do all their things before they announced it. And this guy would not shut up. And then when I finally showed him that, he blocked me, a little a-hole. No, I think that's an absolutely the right way to do it. Let the family, grieve and process it without now we're going to do a two-hour presentation on every performance that john amos gave us by the way john amos diehard two forever for me will be the i wasn't a good times watcher mm uh wasn't a beast master watcher either but uh die hard to uh coming to me john amos you're coming to america one he was great now he was the yeah i i came to that movie late i came to coming in america late uh uh
Starting point is 00:18:42 Didn't watch it back in the 80s, finally watched it more recently. Yeah, if you see, that feels like one that will hold up better for those who saw it younger. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I can definitely see why. You like it. You all like it.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Well, anyway, he, he's, I just really like, every time I saw that dude do anything, I just got excited because he's just such an interesting looking guy. Just a beefy, big old dude. Yeah. He is a dude you did not want to mess with. looking at him. Yeah, for sure. All right, we got a quick note from Chuck B. This is Chuck.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Chuck Byers. We know him. Oh, yeah. We know Chuck Byers. But I like to name Chuck B a lot because it sounds like a T-Moo version of Chuck D, the famous rapper. Yeah. Anyway, he says, hey, TMS, this is Chuck Byers here.
Starting point is 00:19:29 First, I wanted to correct you on the name of the hurricane that just swept through the southern states. It's called Helene. You guys were adding an A to the end of it. I do that all the time. I think it was mostly me. I don't know why I do it, but I put Helena on there. and I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I was too and I don't know why. It was just out of memory he was like, oh yeah, Helena. It's like how I'm always going to, like, I'm going to definitely confuse Kurt and Kirk for this new one. Although we talked enough about Kurt Russell and Kurt Cobain that I probably
Starting point is 00:19:58 and Curtis Armstrong. I get those, I get Kurt Russell and I'm doing it again. Hold on. Kurt Russell and Michael Douglas for some reason, for their entire careers and my knowledge of either of their careers
Starting point is 00:20:15 I mix them up constantly oh really constantly Brian and then I'll forget like you'll say well wait who was in Guardians too and I'll go oh well that was
Starting point is 00:20:26 oh shit and I know it's Kurt Russell I know that it's him but I can't his name won't come to me immediately but Michael Douglas's name is printed on giant red letters in my memory that's funny
Starting point is 00:20:37 I know I've got actors like that too that I know it's well it's not the the dark man dude and the oh Larry Drake and Larry Drake and yeah and Frost Nixon guy I can't get his name now
Starting point is 00:20:55 I can see but see you are so dead right to see to see the similarities there because physically both dudes look like they could be brothers at least right but it's less I mean our with when we have these actors that are confusing like that it's not about that they look the same because Kurt Russell and Mike Douglas don't look at all the same
Starting point is 00:21:11 They both They come from Don't they come Kurt Russell Who is Kurt Russell's dad? Was he an actor as well? Oh, we got a NEPO connection here Let's see.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I don't know. Maybe not. Russell's dad. Maybe not. Maybe it's some other thing for Neil Oliver Bing Russell. Bing Russell. He was an actor
Starting point is 00:21:35 and Class A minor league baseball club owner. That means that acting He really worked well. Yeah. And he looks just like his son. Geez, Louise. Does he? Like,
Starting point is 00:21:47 kind of the same way that Wyatt Russell looks like Kurt? Yeah. Well, the older he got, the less so. But he's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:52 he's in, he was an actor. Okay. I think that's fair. Yeah, maybe there was something there that I was thinking about. I don't know,
Starting point is 00:21:59 but, lots old westerns and military things looks like. Yeah. There, we're going to come to a point at some point where I say, there is my,
Starting point is 00:22:07 there's my Kurt Russell and Mike, Michael Douglas, equivalent, because I know I've got them too. Do you know who's aging better, though, is Michael, or excuse me, Kurt Russell. Michael Douglas is starting to look like somebody left a tumbleweed out in the yard. He's looking real bad. I mean, no offense. He's just age and things happen, and we all age differently.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But Kurt Russell looks like a freaking rugged badass right now. Yeah. Kurt Russell, yeah, he continues to look rugged and good and handsome. And, yeah, I know. If I was a lady of a certain age, I'd be... If I was a man, I'd even be interested in. Yeah, look, if I was... Yeah, if you were a man,
Starting point is 00:22:50 if Brian was a real man, he'd be way into Kerr-Russle. If only I was a man, I'd be interested in Kurt Russell. All right, speaking of not men, let's talk about a woman in our lives named Kirstein Fletcher, Scott Fletcher's wife, she wrote in. Yes. This made me laugh. It's a note about the word spurp.
Starting point is 00:23:06 We were trying to find why the hell somebody thought I said spurp on the air. Did they ever come back to you and provide a... Not yet. Not that person. But we've had others... Let's see. Did I get another one? Yeah, I did here. I'll read both of these. So here's what Christine says. She says, thought I would look up SPRP. And she spelled it the way I did, S-P-E-R-P. Yeah. But she says, I spelled it with a U instead of the E as an alternate spelling, just to see if it was a word. And then she says, boy howdy with three shocked-faced emojis. I'm afraid to look that up.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You should be. I just Googled it and you should be very, very afraid. I'm going to look it up. Maybe do it with an alternate login. All right. Spurp. Okay. Okay, spurp.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, that's a spur. Hold on. Are you on the Urban Dictionary? Is that here you're seeing it? Yeah, it's like it's the first thing that comes up when you, when you Google SPURP. You don't even need. need to you'll need to even need to clarify urban dictionary oh shit all right never mind and that seems consistent all the way down like these 10 definitions all support the top one eff that
Starting point is 00:24:23 i'm out of there no more looking there yep and now uh you can't wait to see what your recommendations your your amazon recommendations are getting gosh dang it dude all right uh here's another one uh spurp in college 1990 this is bill from abbotsford uh he says in college in 1996, I took a marketing class that we needed to create a project. So we created a male spermicide based on pop and we called it Sperp. Pop, I assume he means like soda.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Like soda. Yeah. Yeah. We even had, he said, we even had a stuffed mascot made by my friend's grandmother. I have no idea when or why you would have said it on the show, but I needed to text you with this bit of history and, sorry, a little bit of history. Bill from Abbotsford. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:05 dude. Quite a chemist we got out there. Yeah. Did it work? That's my question. A little Pepsi spermicide. I don't think Dr. Ruth was recommending that business. No, if I had to guess, she backed out of that deal. She doesn't want to do. Yeah, probably. Can I, by the way, I don't know if you, I know you don't watch SNL, but sometimes people send you clips and you watch those. Did you see the Spirit Halloween thing?
Starting point is 00:25:31 Oh, no. Is that from this week? No. I haven't seen that. It's from this last week. Yeah. This last already was the premiere, season premiere of season 50. You'd think I would tune in for that. It's 50, right? You'd think that I would see it as a massive moment, and I didn't do it. Yeah, it's going to be, this is going to be a season where they throw everything at the wall, I think, right? Where they're going to have cameos all over the place. They already had Sandberg and Jim Gaffigan and Dana Carvey come on for the,
Starting point is 00:26:02 and then Maya Rudolph, of course, come on for the cold open. But anyway, so they did this whole thing. And they joke about things that we all joke about with Spirit Halloween, right? The fact that as the seconds after a store closes, you turn back around and there's a Spirit Halloween sign above it, you're covering up the logo. And they sell knockoff, you know, instead of it being an Oompa, it's Candy Slave. Oh, man. Costume, that sort of thing. I need to watch it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I should go watch right now, or not now, but after the show. Yeah, after the show, you should watch it. So they made that jab at Spirit Halloween. Spirit Halloween decided to slap back at SNL and tweeted, We are great at raising things back from the dead. And they've got, you know how somebody had one of those Spirit Halloween costume generator things that would automatically fill in, you know, the fake deal. Like basically a costume and then it describes all the features of it. So theirs was, their S&L 50 costume is irrelevant 50-year-old TV show includes dated references, unknown cast members, and shrinking ratings.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I don't know if I would have leaned in quite like that if I were them. No, it's like, you know, embrace it. You can take a joke, Spirit Halloween. Yeah, I think all of the jokes that get made and the memes around Spirit Halloween have actually increased their business, not lowered it. Yeah, exactly. Embrace it. Let it go. Oh, unknown cast members, that's a problem?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Like, great. Give us some unknown cast members that turn into the next Dana Carvey, the next David Spade, the next... Yeah, I have bad news for them. All of those guys are unheard of until they're heard of. So that's a weird thing to say, you know? Like, unheard of cast members. Think of that for a second. The underlying fundamental basis of S&L from day one is that these are unknown people
Starting point is 00:28:04 who become known. That's it. lame. Now I'm mad at them. Yeah, exactly. Now we hate you, Spirit Halloween. Good job. I'm not going to go in there and buy any ghosts or anything. That's it. That's the day. Right. Exactly. Yes. You won't be getting my 10 bucks this year. All right. One more. Let's see. Oh, no, that was it. That's Sperp. We did Sperp. Yeah, we covered that. Thanks, Christine. We appreciate it. All right. We'll get some news in before the news is no more. Hey, look, it's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville, where we're going to focus on the music of the straw today with songs like, well, this is breaking my camel's back. No, there's not going to be a Coverville. I got time for that today. No way.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Listen, I did the 20th anniversary episode last week. I told everybody I'm taking a week off, and that's exactly what I'm doing. So no Coverville today. Go back and listen to your favorite episode. Do a search for your favorite artist and see if I've done. done an episode all about their music. Chances are I have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 1,500 episodes of the show probably have done a cover story on someone you really, really like. Go check it out. Coverville.com is the place you can find all that. Yeah. And it's, you know, go listen to last weeks. That was a seminal, you know, talking about S&L 50. What about Coverville 20?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Hmm? Hmm? Exactly. Exactly. All right. Here's a story about a postal worker. We love those. And we hear.
Starting point is 00:29:35 We do, and we hear from them occasionally. So we'll probably get some follow-up here. Who brought us these pecans? Oh, yeah. A postal worker. That's right. He found them in somebody's mailbox, stole them, and then... Just kidding, he didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Anyway, a postal worker, and this would definitely not be Greg or anyone else that listens to our show. But anyway, stole over $1.5 million in checks from letters in Missouri, according to the feds, the FBI. Wow. we don't like this postal worker we like all the other postal workers this one not so much no this is bad uh 1.5 million dollars in checks went missing from letters of missouri uh fingerprints tracked back to a 29 year old postal worker just a young dude according to federal authorities anthony verdue the second oh how would the first feel you know how does he feel someone you've brought shame upon the entire line of verdues yep which is only one line or one layer deep i guess verger is it Verger. Verger. V-I-R-D-U-R-E. Yes. Oh, yeah. Verger. Anthony Verger. Verdeur. Verdeer. Verdeer. Very demure.
Starting point is 00:30:45 A mail handler for the U.S. Postal Service in St. Louis indicted on three counts of mail theft and one count of wire fraud. I should be charged with that for my cables behind my desk over here. That's a lot of wire fraud going on in my desk. I have so much wire fraud hanging over there. I seriously, I really legitimately, I've got to redo it all. because I know something's going to get pulled out or loose or fray or something, and I'm going to not be able to find it because it's a freaking rat's nest.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I need to get out ahead of it. I'm going to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, indicted, three counts, mail theft, and one count of wire fraud, U.S. Attorney's Office in the East District of Missouri announced on September 26th, McClatchie News. McClatchie News, do you ever go there? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, McClatchie News is a, that's a company. So it's a lot of A lot of Papers within the McClatchy Oh it's like a group Like a paper group Yeah that's more common now than ever I guess
Starting point is 00:31:42 Not a J-O-A Like Knight Ritter Who are some of the other big ones Night Ritter was a huge one McClatchy Times News group Yeah It's like
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's a little like affiliate stations now They're all kind of owned by Concomerates I don't think that's good Yeah Yeah that's a great one I don't think it's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think they ought to be a little more diverse. Yeah, when you have one company own like 50 things. For example, what's the, what's the... Yeah, but the editorial departments are all independent. This kind of saved a lot of newspapers in the 80s and 90s because smaller papers in, you know, sub-50,000 population towns couldn't afford their own printing press. So having one big company that said, cool, you'll be part of our group.
Starting point is 00:32:30 will help sell ads for you as a cluster in this area, and you can use our printing presses, but your editorial departments will still maintain their independence. If they can guarantee that part, then yeah, I'm okay with it. Yeah. I think that's a hard part, though, because like this, what's the name of the, someone in the chat will know this? There's a group here in the U.S. that owns a ton of news stations, and they don't get to keep, they don't get their independent editorialness. They have to repeat the company line, and they've got a real bent.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I can't, oh, Sinclair, that's who it is. Sinclair, okay. Because, like, Gannett owns or owned a few of the, at least one of the Denver stations and also a bunch of newspapers. They were a media, big media conglomerate. Yeah. But Sinclair, yeah, okay. So there's just a little bit of, like, trust.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And then if they break that, what are you going to do? They're conglomerate. They don't care. They're just in it for the money and the views. Anyway, it says here from November 15th to the April of the 11th this year, still three letters containing checks from the distribution. Center where he had access to all first-class mail. Pieces of mail were set to go to people in Alton, Illinois, Palatine, Illinois, and
Starting point is 00:33:37 St. Louis, respectively, according to the court documents. Basically, these are checks that are paying bills or being sent to other people because they owe them or whatever. And this dude is essentially laundering it all, keeping it for himself, $1.5 million. That is insane. And how it took them this long to figure it out, you know, because it's like, oh, well, what's the common denominator? Oh, they all came from this same mail distribution center. Great. Let's, you know, when you get, when you get enough reports, I guess how long is he doing
Starting point is 00:34:08 it for, um, it doesn't say here. It doesn't say, November 15th to April 11th. So that's a short period of time to have that much go missing and for them, for them to take a long time to figure out what the common denominator is. Yeah, I wonder like it, it might have something to do with the fact that it's St. Louis and you get a lot of throughput from all around the country. So tracking who's missing checks from California to Florida, it might
Starting point is 00:34:38 take a while. Yeah. Just maybe why I did it. I don't know. Here's my, I got a good punishment idea. If I'm Judge Jerry Von Dushbag in this... Why not Judge Scott Johnson? It could be that. You know what? I'll be Judge Scott Johnson. I passed the bar years ago. I worked as
Starting point is 00:34:53 an attorney, a defense attorney, and now I'm a judge. Here's what I would be. Here's his He has agreed to settle their disputes in our forum. The Johnson's court. Here's his punishment. He has to enter a space that is basically an enclosed front yard. And there are 14 Rottweilers on very long leashes. And he has to like just do the ultimate nightmare get away from the dog's mailman thing.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah. I think that's good to do it. All their pegs are like all stations so that there is the. narrowest of narrow paths that he can walk to get out, but he doesn't know what that path is. Yeah, and he has to, in order to fulfill the agreement of his incarceration, he has to successfully
Starting point is 00:35:37 deliver mail to that door without getting bit. And if he gets bit, he has to do it again. He has to keep doing it. And he's barefoot and the lawn is covered with Legos. Yes. And he has meat, he has meat juice on his legs. On his feet. He's wearing
Starting point is 00:35:53 Lady Gaga brand meat pants. Yeah, he's got meat pants on. I'd say we need to reform our justice system and these are some of the things the changes I'm going to I'm going to propose I am all for um ridiculously over the top creative punishments especially if they match the crime you know yeah yeah and I'm not saying that people need to be like shot in the face if they shot someone in the face yeah not an eye for an eye kind of thing no I just want to get creative and really torment them is what I want to do yes life sentences still should be life sentences but when you've got like a felony let's have some
Starting point is 00:36:27 fun with that. Let's do some fun felony work, shall we? I guess we have current laws that are all about laws against cruel and unusual, and this probably is unusual. Yeah. Less cruel, more unusual. Unusual is such a subjective. Yeah. Just scriptor. Yeah. It's unusual. Yeah. I think unusual is good. Yeah, you could argue that a metal toilet in a room with three people is unusual. You know what I mean? But here we go. It's certainly not the norm. do you have a metal toilet open in your living room and your bedroom with no walls around it? Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Like instead of death penalty, can we get like a running man kind of thing going again? Something like that. Because, you know, if we're going to do, it may as well make it entertaining for the masses. I'm sure this leads to nothing but great things in society as I described this. It'll be fine. For sure.
Starting point is 00:37:18 No problems at all. All right. Over to New York. Get into New York. In New York, something, something green. Tomato. What's that song? How's that go?
Starting point is 00:37:28 New York. It's like Jay-Z, I think. Oh, oh, oh, it's Alicia Keys, Empire State of Mind. City where your dreams are mad. Oh, I thought she's talking about a tomato. It's not a green tomato, yeah. No. Shame.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Anyway. If you can make it there, Brian, you can make it anywhere. And according to the story, you'll make it even better because they have greenlit a rat birth control. Oh, good. They're going to hide it in pizza. Yeah. They're going to try to curb the city's infestation of, I assume rats, although the headline could mean infestation of anything. Anyway, New York seemingly eternal battle against the rodent population has taken a new twist after a city council-approved plot scheme is set to deploy rat contraceptives in a new effort to curb their booming population.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Little condoms, little teeny condoms. Little teeny tiny rat condoms. Yep, you got a couple sizes just in case. That's right. Yeah, a little magnum so that some of them can pretend. Yeah, colors, glowing the dark ones, you know, trying to make things more fun. It says here, the Thursday night vote means that in the next few months, pilot programs will begin using contra pest. Oh, I put a lot of cords in a contra pest.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Contra pest. Yeah. The old contra code or the economic code. I was going to say, what is the contra pest code? Up down, up down, and out, and out. Something like that. It says you're the type of rodent birth control. It will be put in special containers aimed at encouraging the rats to ingest it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 So not sprayed or where you and me could breathe it in. That's not the idea. I hope. Special containers. So. Yeah. See, during such monthly inspections of the pilot program areas, the department will track the amount of rat contraceptives in each rat contraceptive dispenser.
Starting point is 00:39:23 That will tell them how much of it is getting ingested by the rats. The law was inspired by the tragic death of city's beloved but short-lived Flaco the owl or Flacco? Flaco, yeah. Is it Flaco? Flaco, yeah, this is this owl that everybody was, it was the, you know, kind of the, let's take our minds off of everything else by focusing on an animal in the city. Oh. Then Flacco ran into a glass side of a building. Oh, he did?
Starting point is 00:39:49 It says here he died. Dad was found with rat poison in the system. It didn't say that. Oh, really? Oh, I thought he flew into a window. Yeah, you're right. Maybe he was a little of both. Maybe he'd load it up on rat poison.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Maybe there was another animal that they did that happened to. It makes sense, right? You got your giant concrete jungle, and occasionally a little nature will show up, and everybody gets obsessed with it. I get it. Yeah, yeah. New York rat problem is known worldwide.
Starting point is 00:40:12 It's very stereotyped of movies and stuff. Even sparking a mini tourism industry around it with people offering rat tours, after becoming known on social media for posting videos of rats swarming through streets and subways. Yeah, maybe this will work. here we go right here flaco the eurasian eagle owl who escaped from the central park zoo in 2023 died on february 23rd 2024 after crashing into a building on west 89th street in manhattan
Starting point is 00:40:36 those bastards have this wrong then yeah the guardian dot com he did have he did have high levels of rat poison in the system and was severing suffering from a severe pigeon herpes virus at the time of his passing uh severe pigeon herpes virus yeah oh that's a dove basically Poor Falaco, man. Oh, man. That is like high on rat poison, herpes from doing it with skanky pigeons and flying into the side of the building. No, kidding. That's wild. It's not the way I want to go. No, I don't want herpes. I don't want any herpes. Any herpes, let alone pigeon herpes. Pigeon herpes. Those are sky rats anyway. I don't want that. They really are, exactly. Well, anyway, we'll see what they do to solve this problem. In the meantime, let's talk about this story.
Starting point is 00:41:22 a woman hopitalized hopitalized that was a that sounded like Trump at a rally didn't it hopitalized they're opalizing
Starting point is 00:41:31 the women they're eating their pets on the way to the hopible we're gonna send them all back to Haitia I know that was a JD Vance thing
Starting point is 00:41:43 not a Trump thing but come on he would have said it too come on did he say Haitia yeah yeah yeah JD Vance said they're gonna send
Starting point is 00:41:49 them back to Hisha oh that's brilliant that's great yeah Yeah. I mean, look, I know Biden would say something even dumber, but he ain't running, so. Uh, right to Haitia for. Yeah. Listen. And by the way, that was great. That, that on set, the S&L clip I saw proved that Dana Carvey, not only, so his whole theory about how you capture an essence of somebody. It doesn't have to be an exact duplication, but it's like this essence thing. He did that again. But he does this thing he's always been so good at. And that is finding. kind of making it up like creating his own catchphrase that whole like you know what guess what was it he goes
Starting point is 00:42:30 you know what let me tell you something you know what er you know what folks or whatever was guess what i'm going to tell you yeah yeah something like he's really good at it but very good at it and he does that in a way like he did it with bush senior with uh not going to do it not going to do it we never said yeah every one of his his characters that he created for us and l brilliant to do that because that's what people wanted to hear in successive appearances of those characters. Yeah, and it got old eventually, but it can last you a nice long time. Like the church lady's saying, ooh, could it be Satan or whatever? Eventually, I don't want to hear that anymore because it's overdone.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But it lasted a long-ass time. And if he came back tomorrow and did it, people would scream and clap when he did it again. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, a woman hospitalized after liposuction procedure using an L.E. Express dental phlegs suction machine. Oh, geez. This is amazing. Dental flembs. This is how you get pigeon herpes, by the way, is from a dental flam suction machine. Yeah, don't touch any. If they've been used before, you don't want to get away. Woman is in critical care after being subjected to a liposuction performed by an anesthetician who allegedly, used a dental phlegm suction machine from
Starting point is 00:43:54 Ali Express, basically T-Mu. Wow, so I thought this woman bought it herself. Oh, like self-induced, no. Yeah, and was like trying to perform trying to perform liposuction on herself with something she bought on Ali Express that's for a whole different purpose. But this was like
Starting point is 00:44:10 an esthetician. Yeah, or somebody who claimed to be. So basically it says this. So she shares this alarming post warning people against a certain, quote, Jolene Aesthetics. Aesthetics, right? A.E.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Aesthetian or esthetics. Yeah. So, aesthetics. Yes. Okay. Esthetics. In Milton Keyes, UK. Zoe, be careful out there. All right. In the now viral Facebook post, Louise intended or included a photograph of the device that Jolene Anderson,
Starting point is 00:44:44 uh, Jolene. That's all I can think of to, yeah. Don't take my, not my man, but my fat. don't take my fat. Don't suck my fat out of my butt. Don't suck my fat out of my butt. It would be an amazing alternate version. With a dental flam machine. You've got your dental flam machine that you bought on the... Oh, I could come up with a quick and the fry. Yeah, look. Well, look, we got a, you know, film sack probably will fix you coming up. Yeah, I'll fix it. I'll do it. I'll have it ready for Sunday.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It says here, screenshots show the machine in question with 18 liters per minute airflow electrical portable suction unit, which is sold for a couple of hundred bucks on Chinese online shops like Alley Express. Please do not use Jolene Aesthetics. Jolene Aesthetics in Bletchley, Bletchley. She isn't qualified to train students or carry out any aesthetics. So wait, is that, aesthetics is the job of pulling your fat out? Yeah, any sort of body shaping. So it really is aesthetics.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's the use of that word. Okay. Yeah. Facial aesthetics. I don't know if like chemical peels and stuff like that fall into that, but even like chin implants and cheeks and nose and Botox and stuff like that. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah. I, on a dare, Kim and her sister got Botox once. Uh-huh. Just to see what it was like. That was really funny because I came home. And I'd be like, all right, give me a smile. and she'd smile is her forehead mostly right yeah yeah she's gonna give me a smile her forehead stays just perfectly still and so then I go give me one of these like oh with your face like
Starting point is 00:46:27 like a surprise look yeah she couldn't do it her head just like stayed it's like just she didn't do it after that she thought it was weird oh yeah uh it's fine anyone doing it no judgment do what you got yeah totally yeah don't care you want to put botulism in your face i'm not here to tell you know all right no judgment you know it's a good place to put it really yeah if you're going to put it somewhere, put it there. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, my sister Wendy will be here. And we're going to be talking about, and I mean this with all sincerity, aliens. And that's all I know because she said, I want to talk about aliens on the show. I'm not going to tell you why. And I said, all right, I'll just find out when the rest
Starting point is 00:47:03 of the world finds out. So I don't know what this is about. You're going to be surprised. She's really just going to be talking about the sequel to Alien. Oh, that's it. That's it. She's like, oh, she just wants to talk about Burke and Hicks. And, uh, yeah, and the difference between the extended version and the Not One and all that. Well, that'd be great. That's coming up after this break. But before that, Brian, will play us a song in the middle. Yeah, this is an indie, even.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Big thanks to Grandstand Media. They're another one that always seems to send me really good stuff. Lucky number records as well. Sunflower Bean is the name of the band. It's a great name for a band. Sunflower Bean. They have a brand new EP that they just released. The EP is called Shake.
Starting point is 00:47:43 and they've even created a short film that is the length of the EP so it is like an extended play music video of all the songs on the EP How cool is that? That's very cool. This is their New York City band, New York City,
Starting point is 00:47:58 and this is the lead single from the EP it is called Teach Me to Be Bad. Here is Sunflower Bean. I don't even know your name But I love you all the same Stars are in my eyes Yeah, you got me hypnotized But it's only me to blame
Starting point is 00:48:33 Flame I just met you Take it home I want to live forever Don't try you close Teach me to be back Teach me to be bad Oh
Starting point is 00:48:52 When I don't follow my heart A little piece of me dies You can live forever Asking if it's the only food It only takes no take to dive I just met you Take me home I want to lose
Starting point is 00:49:24 I won't take clues Teach me to be fun Teach me to be fun Oh Oh Let's see the way Oh no We like to live a little
Starting point is 00:49:42 Since we used to be fed Did you make you be found Oh Because we might Only have tonight Let's make it last forever Oh Because we might
Starting point is 00:50:02 We might Let's make it last Let's make it us We need And a lot We'd like to live a little. With the doors Teach me to be bad
Starting point is 00:50:38 I teach me to be bad Big Jim, the man you never want to even know in the first place. You get tasty pasta pies filled with a rich tomato sauce. And we've returned. Tell me about that again. Yeah, that's a band called Sunflower Bean, a three-piece unit that started out in 2013 as a high school, a bunch of high schoolers putting, getting together and playing music together. Here we are 11 years later, and they're getting ready to release another EP. They've released a few albums.
Starting point is 00:51:34 over the course of time. Sunflower Bean getting ready to release their, I'm sorry, just released their EP Shake. This is the middle song on the EP. It's called Teach Me to Be Bad, or it was. There was. Is and was. And we'll always be.
Starting point is 00:51:47 That's true. We can't change that. No. It's forever. It's locked in. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. Well, look what we have here. It's my sister, Wendy, who comes here on Thursdays and does a little therapy.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Thursday with us. Wendy, hello, and welcome. Oh, I don't hear. She muted. I don't hear either. You might be muted, Wendy. Check your microphone input. Oh, there she is.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Hello. Hello? Oh, I heard her for a second. I did too. That wasn't us. I assume that was her. Oh, there she is. I hear myself too, but it'll probably clear up.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yep, it did. Yeah. Okay, good. Hi, welcome. How are you doing? Good. How are you guys? Yeah, I'm doing all right.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Good. I've got, you know, we're staring down the barrel of fall, having a good time. Yeah, turn it off. We just need the weather to notice it as well and agree that it is fall and to be fall-like weather. Yeah, the Utah, Colorado, Rockies area warmth trend is not making any sense to me, but whatever. Yeah, that's, you guys aren't alone. It's been 80 degrees for the last week, and today's finally cooled down, and I'm like, is this real? and then it gets warmer again. That's not normal here.
Starting point is 00:53:06 No. There should be snow in the ground already. Yeah, I was going to say, you guys should already be feeling the winter hit a little bit. Yeah. Not coming. But, you know, it gets dark. Still does that thing. So that's good. No, that's fun. Sure. Getting dark earlier here, too. Now it's dark and hot. That's not good. That's not the right combination. Yeah. It sounds pleasant. Kim's coming out there in a, what, a week and a half, a couple of weeks or something like that. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I'm so excited. I really, I need to tell her this, but my kids are gone all day. She's going to just be, be with my dogs. I'm hoping she wants to, I don't know, retile my bathroom or something. Yeah, maybe she's actually painting our basement one that we're trying to finish. She's doing that right now as we're doing the show. Oh, wow. I have 10 projects for
Starting point is 00:53:47 her. She has nothing. Or she can just come and read and do nothing. That's fine. But also she can, there's plenty of chores. Well, she's looking forward to it. You're really excited to have her. Everyone loves Aunt Kim, so she'll do great there and I'm sure the boys and Allie will love it. Come about out. Do some work in our house for
Starting point is 00:54:03 change love it why not uh that's exciting though because you guys are having a big anniversary so congrats ahead of time 25 years people 25 oh congratulations that's awesome quarter of a century that's crazy i know it is really crazy let me know when you get to 31 let me know when that happens is that what you are oh you're old i know dude i'm old as hell are you kidding me we're basically people listening that are 31 we are oh i there i guarantee that but we are people we are How do I put this? Mom is misleading because she's really sharp and with it, you know? She's not like dopey.
Starting point is 00:54:40 She's got her faculties. Yeah, and she's looked way young for a long time, which is unfair because I thought that's... Even in the face, you'd see my mom's face and go, you're not 86. You're like 65 at most or something. You see the rest of her and you go, oh, okay, out a few years. But anyway, the point is, I think it's lulled us into a false sense of we're still younger than we are. I think that's what's going on. Yeah, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I don't like it. Anyway, Wendy's a seasoned, we'll say that, therapist. She comes on the show and helps us with real problems that you guys submit to us oftentimes, but today's a little bit different. She gave me a hint as to what it is, but it gave me no description. Yeah, and I had vertigo, so I ruined it last time. I was very ready. Yeah, that was a, we think that was.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah, it was like a viral, viral case of vertigo or some weird thing, right? Yeah, just talk to a client who had also. had it. I've met someone at my kid's football game who recently had it. I feel like the best form of biological warfare people would be to learn how to massively spread an ear, inner ear virus and give everyone
Starting point is 00:55:45 vertigo. Yeah. Oh, don't give many ideas. That sounds terrible, isn't it? Can you imagine a whole army of, let's say, the top, best army in the world all of a sudden just start going, oh shit, and they just start tumbling on each other and you can't shoot straight, and oh, what
Starting point is 00:56:01 a nightmare. It would be, Lots of vomiting. It would be so bad. So we made it, though. And so I had that prepped and had a whole thing ready and now. So now I'm going to present it today. Okay. So there are two parts because in the meantime, I thought of a second one.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And the first one might take five minutes. So I thought I'd get out a little time here. But, you know, there's great questions to ask at parties. So be thinking, when you're with a group of people, what is like a go-to? to get to know you thing you do or like question you ask or whatever. I'll give you a quick one that I think is really fun to ask when people are all at least millennials and up
Starting point is 00:56:44 and is to ask them about the first concert they ever went to and describe it, like how old they were where it was. I love it because everyone's eyes start to light up a little bit, right? And it's like just a fun nostalgia thing Very rarely do people hate their first concert. Do they say, oh, it was the worst experience of my life? Right. And if it was.
Starting point is 00:57:10 People probably have it. I'm sure somebody in the chat room is going to say yes. Oh, yeah, right. Even if it was, that's always a great story too. Yeah, for sure. And it was written on a blank slate, too, right? You'd maybe never been in the building like that. You'd never smelled marijuana before.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Like, there was a lot going on with your first concert. So I think that's really fun. So real quick, do you guys have anything like that where you're like party question? It works every time. Yeah, I usually ask, did you grow up around here? Because I love it when somebody says where they're from, and I can't do this too much anymore. But they say where they're from and I say, oh, you're from Greensboro. Yeah, it's the news and observer.
Starting point is 00:57:48 They'll be like, wow, how do you know the newspaper? And then we get talking about that sort of thing. Yeah, you got to travel around to all these different places via the newspaper business. And that's a great, I can see that being a great way to start things. It's a fun way to start a conversation. And then you can, you know, tell them, oh, my God, I loved, I loved Greensboro. It was such a pretty college town and blah, blah, blah, and whatever. And it's a way to break the eyes.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Less and less usable as more and more newspapers disappear and more millennials have zero idea what a newspaper is. Yeah, good point. I'm thought of that. I don't know if I have a good one. I think I'm more, if I walk into a party or I'm part of a get-together where I don't know people already. it's usually me trying to over-observe them up to whatever point I have to interact.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So maybe it's I heard from somebody that they work in, I don't know, they design lights for the local mall. I don't know. This is some weird thing like that. Like if I know some of this ahead of time, I can say, oh, hey, we've never, we've never met, but I've been in that mall with those lights before. Like I would do, that's the sort of thing I would do to break. the ice and try to do it a funny way and make them feel sort of at ease or whatever yeah but if somebody asked me if somebody asked me like hey the concert thing or if a concert thing came up at all i would
Starting point is 00:59:13 you know what i would do every time this involves you windy i and i wedge in that when we went to see yanni for some reason in the 90s early 90s with our parents and then i'm at the time driving a honda CRX. Now, if anyone knows what the CRX was, it was a tiny two-door Honda that had no trunk space. It was just a little two-seater thing that we had to sell when Kim got pregnant because it was like, well, you can't have a kid in this car. And we drove that. And at the end of the concert, Wendy says, or we said, hey, who wants to go home with who? Wendy's still in high school. And you said, I'll go with Scott and Kim. And so you went with us. We blew out a tire. I had to pull over to the side of the road at like midnight. It was already terrible
Starting point is 00:59:58 getting out of there because parking was so bad. Back when Park West was still around. Anyway, and Wendy fell asleep somehow folded up into an envelope size person in the back of the CRX. So that story would be fun in a situation where I'm like, oh, they know Wendy. I don't know them or somehow we've got these connections. So I'm always doing that. I don't have like a go-to. it's more like they look like they might be into that guy's wearing a D&D shirt so he's going to be a nerd I know what I can do with him or this lady over here she's uh nonstop showing people pictures of her dog well there's a nice in like I do I do that and I probably do it too much because I get um there's a little bit of anxiety to that of like okay I got to make sure like that
Starting point is 01:00:43 especially with strangers or people I don't know if it's like listeners and stuff that's never hard because we have a lot of they they already think they there's already a little bit of a social relationship between us and our listeners and a meaningful one like we've already talked to them online or whatever so we have millions of reasons why that can just simultaneously create conversation but when you're talking about like legit strangers in a room for the first time it's tricky okay all right well first of all can I just share how that feels to hear that story because I have no memory of blowing out a tire at all I remember the yawning concert it makes sense I would go home with you and Kim yeah but my first thought is oh my gosh
Starting point is 01:01:21 Gosh, what I wouldn't give to be so not in charge that I could curl up and go to sleep. Like, well, I cannot remember that feeling. And a reminder, the back of the CRX is not a safe environment for anyone to do anything. Oh, gosh, no. There's no seatbelt. There's no strap. There's nothing. You're just curled up back there in the makeshift little storage space that you could maybe fit a cooler if you had to.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And you probably don't remember the tire park because I think you slept through all that. I might have. Oh, that sounds like a dream. I'll go through another. I would have a tire blow out again if I could just be sleeping. Bam. Really, someone needs to sleep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:00 All right. Okay. So the reason I'm asking the, what is the party question that you ask or whatever? It's because I came up with an amazing party question that I want everyone to use. And I'm going to ask you guys. And then I want to ask people in the chat to kind of just throw in their answers. It's kind of a fairly quick. thing um they could just say what they would do i don't know where this came from it just popped
Starting point is 01:02:26 in my head i don't i don't have any idea but i i love how people respond okay so it's about aliens okay so let's say you have a real you're not high in any way you are not sleepy anyway you are not drunk in any way you are totally like noon in the middle of a day alert okay yeah You did figure out the one time of day that I am none of those things. Right at noon. Okay. Or maybe 8 a.m. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:56 But you are 100% awake and you have a real encounter with aliens. You see them. You see them with your own eyes. You do not have your phone because you are working on your mental health and on a walk without your phone. So you cannot film them. You cannot prove it. But you are witnessing them. They're not like maybe touching you or you're interacting with them necessarily.
Starting point is 01:03:18 but you have you have come upon this scene and it is legit happening. They can look however you want in your minds. It doesn't matter. Make it up. It's fine. But you really do have an experience, okay? Okay. So what is the first thing you will do when you get back to civilization after your walk?
Starting point is 01:03:38 And sort of generally, who's the first person you would tell? What would you do? Would you tell anyone? We're just going to walk through that scenario. And then I'll tell you what happened when I asked my family. It made me laugh so hard. Okay. so everyone ask yourself this question you have no other witnesses no proof but you have just
Starting point is 01:03:54 witnessed alien life and you're not you're not grifting you're not grifting you're not you didn't actually you really did see this is the scenario you truly saw this 8 a.m. 8 a.m. alertness I mean obviously Tina would be the first person I tell without a doubt okay because I know that we have an agreement that we believe each other. I like that I like that a lot on anything. Although I do give her crap sometimes when she says that the ghost of her grandfather made some Christmas ornaments move. I put lights on and off. Is that real?
Starting point is 01:04:28 I do. Yeah, it's real. I give her a little bit of a hard time because it was specifically the Christmas ornament that she gave her grandfather. And that was the only one on the tree that moved. So, yeah, I say, all right, well, I believe that you believe it. Yeah. You believe that you. Hey, I like that.
Starting point is 01:04:45 That's a great way of doing that. We have a, me and Wendy have a real. relative who thinks they see dead people all the time in their dreams. And now you can say, I believe that you believe it. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Okay. So you would tell Tina and Tina would believe you believe that you believe it at least, at minimum. Okay. She'd ask me about your questions and, you know, because I mean. She'd asked if you had a fever, maybe. Right. She'd like, did you, you know, could have been this?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Could it have been this other thing? Was it a cybertruck maybe? You know, anything like that. but she would she would believe me okay and then who what happens after that for you um wild passionate sexual activity oh not that my my et costume and we'd go at it like rabbits wow fantastic uh no i think um i don't think i would go much further than that like i don't know if i would i certainly wouldn't be like all right let's go to uh the news i got to tell the news about this I guess, okay, the alien, the interaction with the aliens, was it a positive one?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Did I see them like wringing their hands or twiddling the ends of their moustaches like, I'm going to take over the world? Or is it, was it just like they fly down, they pick up a piece of trash and fly off kind of thing? Right. Yeah, you can make up whatever you think it is. Okay. If it's a good interaction, then I'm probably leaving it there because with, But if they're saying, they're like, let's poison the water supply.
Starting point is 01:06:22 You'd go tell someone. I'd go tell somebody and I would just prepare myself from all the movies and TV shows I've seen where somebody has to do this. That is a, it's a very common trope, isn't it in sci-fi? It really is. And it's, you know, you have to say, all right, what didn't work for Elf's owners? What didn't work for Mindy? What didn't work for, uh, Alph's owners? I love that.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Elf's owners. The owners of Alf. Okay. I love it. I love this so much. All right. So I tell Tina and then if I needed to because of concerns, I do my research on old ABC weekend or Friday, TGI Friday TV shows. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I got you. Okay. I like it. All right. That's where that would go. Yeah. How about you? What would you do?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Kim would be the first person I'd tell. I think that she would probably default to believing me in that way that your supportive spouse believes you no matter what to make sure they're supportive. Does that make sense? It's not necessarily a fervent belief that I saw a greenheaded alien. It's more her going, okay, well, okay, we'll deal with this together. Like, that's how it would be. That's her response. And that would only, that would feel artificial, that would fill artificial to me because I think she would mean it, but I know the rest of the world would not have that reaction.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I think I would question myself like crazy. And I would try to look at like, all right, well, it's entirely possible I hallucinated this. And is there a reason I may have hallucinated? I would like backtrack. Did I take a medication I shouldn't have? Was that pill supposed to be Tylenol, but instead it was, you know, LPM. Yeah. Yeah, something weird like that. I would have, I would have all kinds of questions for myself before I would tell people. Now, Brian's scenario, he said you were told the water supply is about to get poison. Yeah. That would obviously create urgency. And I would, I would go, here's what I would say. I go to an authority who could do something about it. And I would say, I know this is crazy. And I know this is going to sound nuts. But I want you to know that I had this experience. You can react to it however you want to. I just want to make sure. that I have said something before anything gets too weird.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And then two weeks later, when it does happen, I look forward to the FBI, coming to my door, knocking on it and thinking I did it because I'm the only one that knew about it. Boy, that'll be fun. Would the right move here be, you know how when you're getting attacked or something? You don't yell. I mean, the horrible example of this is you don't yell rape, you yell fire, because that's what gets people's attention.
Starting point is 01:09:10 do you do you do the equivalent with this and say i saw uh uh you know this tall lanky dude um i don't have any other description because he ran away before i could pull my phone out and get a picture but he was putting something in the water supply like like you know you don't even bring aliens into the picture so that it's not a uh not even not even a question about that part it's like okay imminent danger somebody put something in the water supply oh you know what that's a good point I think I might try that because I don't want to... The problem is you're going to have to show, like, evidence and not evidence, but like... Sure, and you can describe what somebody looks like and just say, okay, yeah, they were tall and had dark hair and a mustache, and they were wearing a who t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah, it was wearing a who t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So essentially, you would, if there was concerns, go just sort of like... I would leave the alien. an aspect out of it just to
Starting point is 01:10:09 solve the problem of the imminent danger and less about the by the way it's also kind of a safe assumption because the chances are it probably isn't an alien and you are just part of a big ruse to make you think
Starting point is 01:10:24 it is and I would much rather be shocked that it was indeed an alien along with everyone else than be the guy saying it was an alien like I need more information like the critical thinker me would that would not be enough i'd be like remember the scenario is this is actually an alien okay so that so i can't there's no doubt in my mind that it's an alien when i see it no doubt
Starting point is 01:10:45 i'd still do like brian and i would try to i would i would appeal to people's logic before i would tell them it was an alien yeah okay yeah i would lie basically i asked my kids at dinner yeah the same question and i answered first and everyone and i'll tell you my answer afterwards but Everyone was 100% shocked. I think everyone lost all respect for me or something. It was very funny. Because I was like, whoa, no one else thinks this way. And so I was interested, like, how did everyone take it?
Starting point is 01:11:14 So Adam said he would tell no one, probably including me. Oh, really? Not even you. Interesting. He's like, I don't know you thinking I'm crazy and I can't prove it. And I'm like, okay. And then I asked Pete, and it's my favorite. He goes, okay, what I would do is go on the internet.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And I would make a pseudo character. I don't know why You'd create a sock puppet Yeah, I could create something and ask people What would you do if you saw an alien? So he would get... Is that what you're doing right now, Wendy? Is this why you're asking you?
Starting point is 01:11:43 Because you really did see an alien And you want advice on how to do with it? You'll say, don't ruin my cover yet. And then I can't remember Elliot said something about like, well, you know no one will believe you. And so what you've got to do and like he had kind of a roundabout way
Starting point is 01:11:58 like kind of what you guys are describing. Yeah. Okay. This is me. I'm the first one to answer, and this is my answer. And then I'd love to hear if anyone has any in the chat. Has anyone written anything down? We're getting a few. Yes, a couple people had. Yeah, Icor said I would still report it with a caveat that I don't expect people to believe me. If it really happened, there might be other reports and mine would help. That's a good. I like that one. Don't read Claire's though. Whatever you do. No, Claire would do something horrible. Yeah, don't read that. And I think she would get pigeon herpes from it. Yeah. Don't go there. Don't go there. Yeah. What else? That's about it. I'm scrolling back and I don't think anybody... For the most part, though, I think the most common answer is similar to, like, I already
Starting point is 01:12:38 know no one's going to believe this. So I'd have to be careful, kind of protect myself as I do this or, you know, that kind of thing. I mean, you guys, I'm either the most naive person on Earth or the most narcissistic. I can't figure it out. Because my first thought is, I'd tell everyone. Oh, really? Yeah, I thought, I'll call Neil deGrasse Tyson. That's what I'll do. Yeah. And I'll be like, dude, guess what?
Starting point is 01:13:06 I saw an alien. Let's talk about it. And you guys believe me, right? Like, it would never have crossed my mind to do anything any of you are saying. Isn't that weird? It is a little weird because, but also I think that fits with how I know you. You're not a dink around. You're not a dink around at the issue kind of person.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You'll go straight to the. He can look at, and Neil deGrasse Tyson can look at your record and say, oh, you know, she's a reputable professional therapist, she's done this, she's done that. She had some weird incident in her, you know, early years with a curling iron, but still, that all these, you know, other things that point to the fact that she is legit and not crazy. And okay, guess we'll pay attention to what she says. Sure. Yeah, you said curling iron. I think you meant a melting rod of steel that Scott put on my forehead. Is that what we're talking about?
Starting point is 01:13:57 Sodering iron is what he meant. Oh, soldering iron. That's right. So, in fact, it is much worse. Attacked by your brother. Yeah. Again, not my fault, Neil. Just listen to my story.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Anyway, so I thought that was funny. I had a friend who's a potter, and he would, he described that everyone's personality, he didn't need to do personality tests. He could just have everyone throw a pot, and he would know everything he needed to know about their personality. Wow. Like, are they perfectionists? Are they quick to anger?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Are they calm or, you know, whatever? And I was like, oh, maybe this alien thing only tells about me and everyone else is normal. Anyway, I liked it. I thought it was fun. So I like, that's my new party question as I just asked people, what they would do. And turns out, I'm alone. I was hoping one person would say, oh, I'd tell everyone. But I guess that's not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah, I think there are probably other people like you who would immediately, you know, want to get the, you know, say it and probably have and probably have then they learn the hard way that no one believes yeah and then also sometimes those same people could find out later like I don't know if it if you're somebody who gets visited by ghosts let's say yeah well it turns out there is a condition there's a there's a neurological explanation for it if you go and through the channels and get diagnosed right that's a way you can find out that oh they're these are called night I forget they're called It's like they're basically hallucinations brought on by REM sleep, blah, blah, blah. And then, and then you're like, well, crap, for 20 years, I've been telling everybody that I can see the dead.
Starting point is 01:15:36 And now I found out that, no, it's just my brain playing tricks on me. My default assumption is that our brains are playing tricks on us, that we are not good, we are not good witnesses for ourselves sometimes. And so that's why I would be very hesitant. Although, you know what, I'll say this. The older I get, the less craps I give. and maybe I would be more like, yeah, I saw an alien. I can't explain it. And I'll even talk about it on the air.
Starting point is 01:16:00 You know what? I probably would do that now they think about it. You guarantee would tell everyone on the air. I think I would. Yes. Oh, for sure. Because it's content. It's good content.
Starting point is 01:16:08 It's great content. Yes. Everything's content. Yeah. Even if I'm wrong. I say wrong things all the time and I get crap for it and we have back and force about it. But guess what? The show goes on.
Starting point is 01:16:17 So I don't feel like it would be that weird for me to say, guys, I think I saw an alien last night. Right. I think it'd be okay. So, anyway. Okay. So here's my second party trick that I do not recommend, but it is so interesting to watch. And I think I can pull it off because I'm a therapist and people are like, oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:36 They'll make a face. She's reading you or something. Which, by the way, I never do. I never think about anyone's mental health ever unless they are clearly showing that it's disturbed. Minus that, I just don't think about it unless I'm sitting down and talking to you on purpose. I really don't. I always wonder about that. I was wondering, you know, we got a listener, Cindy, who's a hygienist.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And I wonder if she looks at people's teeth when they're talking and says, oh, yeah, he's got some, there's some gingivitis going on or some periodontist disease. Or, yeah, does a doctor, does like a back doctor see a scoliosis patient and go, I don't know what I'd do. Just meeting at a party talking about aliens, but you might want to get that lift at. I want to check. I think it has to be obvious for most people to want to work after hours during their free time, truly. It has to be obvious.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And then you're like, oh, I can't not see it. Oh, shoot. You know, at least that's how I feel. Good point. Sure. Interesting. So here's my question that I like to ask. I asked, and I did this with a couple random people.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I know kind of well. And then one is kind of a new neighbor. All right. It was so funny. And that neighbor is Tim Walls. No, just kidding. Go ahead. Oh, I wish he was my neighbor.
Starting point is 01:17:45 He would help me fix crap. Oh, yeah, he would. Dude, you're worried about your projects while Kim's there. You get Tim Walls over there. I know, right. Tim and Kim and Kim are at my house. house. By the way, I've made a whole bunch of corn dogs.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I'm bringing you over a handful. It is real. That whole ethos is not a made-up thing. I know. I love it. It's true. I like it. It's very true.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I get so much so much zucchini every spring or summer. It's like, listen, I don't need more. Zucchini is the weed of gardening. Anyway, okay. So this is the question. You're chatting. You're like, oh, lo, and then you say this phrase. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:23 And you have to fit it in so it makes some sense because it's crazy otherwise. But people are talking about their kids. Okay. So I'll give you the context with the neighbor. This actually will help. So they have one of those, you know, those cars that drive, but they're for little kids, like a little Jeep. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's like a miniature version.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Right. And so, you know, when we were kids, anyone who had that was like a millionaire. Do you guys remember that? Oh, yeah. I remember that. I think it now, I see a kid, but now. And I go, geez, kid. Where do you get all the money?
Starting point is 01:18:51 100%. Their parents are rich. And then if they're ice maker and their fridge works, I was like, you are rolling in dough. Okay. So we were talking to the neighbor. Their kids have these. And we were like, ah, so your kids have made it, you know, just some kind of joke. And they were like, yeah, someone gave them to us. And when we were kids, we never, ever thought we'd have this. So we were like, yeah, we'll take them. That's so nice. And now we hate them so deeply because it's so scary because the kids will just drive in the road. And like, little neighbors. A neighbor kid came and took it and just took off. This kid's like one foot tall. It's terrifying. Anyway. So everyone's like nervous around these cars. So we're talking about, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I said this phrase, which I like to throw in.
Starting point is 01:19:35 And I say, well, you know, it's just this interesting concept. We're all just victims of our parents' childhood. Okay. All right. And they're like, oh. Because A, if you're a parent, you're like, oh, no. I'm victimizing my kid. because of my childhood, or you're relating to it because you have been victimized by your parents' childhood.
Starting point is 01:19:59 And then it just turns into it like, well, it takes things from funny to like, I don't, I'm not socially experimenting on people, I promise, but I have just been fascinated by the reaction because it's just right on the nose and it tells you a lot about stuff. So I just said I don't do any therapy in public and I suddenly just do this. So maybe that's not true. Anyway, so what is your first thought when you hear the phrase that we're all just victims of our parents' childhood? I think of more of the positive. Like, I wanted this as a kid, and I never got one. So I'm going to make sure that my son gets one. Like, I'm trying to think of a good example, but, you know, as well, a car, yeah, I did have one of those as a kid.
Starting point is 01:20:45 I mean, well, one of those, like you're saying, one of those little self-driving cars, sure. but more like, oh, yeah, no, I loved my first turntable. I'm going to make sure Tristan gets one of those, even if he doesn't want one. Yes, and that's exactly how we victimize them with our good childhood. Exactly. You are going to, and then we get mad at them when they don't like the thing that we wanted so much from our childhood. Yeah, it's like I want you to play football like I played football. It's that whole thing, right?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, I get it. Totally, totally. And so it's just been my fun go-to phrase to record scratch at parties. the aliens ones gets everyone happy and excited and very interesting and then we're all victims of our parents' childhood is uh it takes it real deep real fast but it's pretty funny so i think about that like scott how are we victims of our parents childhood oh man um oh geez i don't know i've really thought of that before right because you'd have to know enough about your parents childhood that's probably it i don't know a lot about my parents childhood no
Starting point is 01:21:46 that you say it right i know that my mom was a little competitive with their sisters i know that uh my dad's side he was like the nice kind of sensitive kind one and the rest of them were kind of butts um that's it that's all i know i know my grandpa on his side was a little abusive abusive verbally and um i know that my grandma on his side was really sweet and gave me soup when i'd go over there but i don't know much else about that so i've never really had to think about this until today. I don't know much about my parents' childhoods. That's funny. Right. And here's the thing. You can always work backwards by like, huh, what are some things I experienced that I feel like maybe I got from how my parents raised me and it can be tied back to their childhood. So I have
Starting point is 01:22:31 one for you. Mom was raised very, very nervous, right? Her dad was off to war. She thought, you know, when you're young and you have really scary thoughts, no one, she never talked to anyone about them, right? So grandma smoked and mom remembers flushing all the cigarettes down the toilet because she thought she was going to die like any minute, like each cigarette would kill her. And so she just had a lot of nervous, but not talking it through. And I think of how that translated to how she parented sometimes with, you know, just being nervous for whatever and how that then comes across with your own experience, right? So that would be an example. So you'd find, You'd work backwards.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Like, you're like, here's my issue. And you're like, all right, let me move back to my parents. Because what's I like about it a little bit is that there is almost some sympathy or empathy for your parents. Like, oh, they were just kids having this happen to them. Right. Rather than my grown adult parent ruined me when it comes to money. The truth is your parents' childhood had a lot to do with their relationship with money
Starting point is 01:23:38 that maybe you know nothing about. For sure. Yeah. And you just sharing this idea that. Mom grew up nervous, for lack of a better term, because of all those other things, says a lot about what I do think of my child rearing. And I don't mean this even in a fully negative way. I just mean that mom had kind of a shield she would put up.
Starting point is 01:24:01 And I never understood why she wouldn't want to just deal with some things just head on. And that makes more sense talking to you about it now. I don't know why I've never really been privy to that before. it makes sense to me now. Yeah, totally. And you can see, like, you are the first, her second baby with like five or six dead babies in between. Like, you were a fragile piece of life.
Starting point is 01:24:26 So she was also, you know, being very nervous about you. Yeah. Whereas I grew in Thanksgiving dinner. She wasn't worried about it. That's true. Wendy was born on Thanksgiving for those that don't get the reference. And that meant that I think mom's at the hospital while everybody was having Thanksgiving dinner. I don't know how it went, actually.
Starting point is 01:24:43 She had sucked. Yeah, trust me. I hear about it every year. Okay. So, all right. So, Brian, do you have any of these where you're like, aha? Okay, so you have maybe, and it can be positive. I like that response because it's true.
Starting point is 01:24:57 You can have a really positive response to your parents' childhood. So often we're like, we want to give our kids what we didn't have, and that ends up maybe spoiling a kid and they miss out on one, they, other things, right? It was also, yeah, but it was also like a very money-wise kind of situation because, you know, my mom grew up in Hungary. They did not have a lot because of the Russian occupation. They escaped to America when she was 14 and basically came here with very, very little and had to kind of make do. And so she instilled a lot of that in me. and and I kind of went both ways on that like I think I did a really good job with Tristan making him very responsible about money but I still I still did try to spoil him a little bit like you know making sure that that you know we went and saw the new the new Pixar movies every time they came out or that he had the dinosaur toys he always wanted and things like that and so it kind of worked both ways in the way that my
Starting point is 01:26:08 my mom's upbringing directed the way I treated some of these things, but also the way I not really rebelled against, but wanted to make up for those sorts of things. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Definitely a little bit of that in our house, too. My dad was notoriously cheap about everything, and it's because I grew up with very little.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And my mom, I don't know what her situation in that regard was like, but it just seemed like they were both children of people who experienced the depression personally. And as a result, it just trickled down. And in a lot of ways, it trickled down straight to me. I'm terrible about, like, if we get amazing service somewhere, Kim's like, oh, we're giving them like 50%, or whatever, tip, some high tip. And I'm like, no, we're not.
Starting point is 01:26:54 We're not giving them that. That's too much money. I'm not doing that. That upsets the balance, I say to her sometimes. And I think that she should feel like me because she grew up in her very poor household in Mississippi. She didn't have anything. They shared everything.
Starting point is 01:27:07 They all lived in one room. like, you know, I would have thought, but that was a different, it was a different value in their house, right? Right. I also think there's, I mean, to just keep analyzing your extended family, that the, the interpretation really matters, right? Like, um, dad lost a business. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:27 We had nice things than we didn't, right? Like there was a loss factor in humans are really not fans of losing, right? We don't like it. We don't do well with loss. Whereas Kim, I don't know if they ever had anything. and her dad could literally build whatever he wanted with his own bare hands. It's true. And so they may do and like are super, like it went, it went upwards, not fluctuating.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And I think fluctuating creates a very different response in people as a child too. So I'm guessing, Scott, your kids are victims of your childhood in that way that maybe they're figuring out. In my case, Abe literally, this is the problem when you teach your kids to communicate. is they do. And Pete or Elliot, what's his name? Abe calls me the other day. He's like, I love everything about college. Thanks for everything.
Starting point is 01:28:17 You guys are amazing. You've done so many things right. There's just like one thing. And I'm like, oh, no, what? And he's like, yeah, I'm so jacked up about money. Yeah. Like, I'm weird. Something's wrong.
Starting point is 01:28:28 And I'm like, yeah, you're the victim of your parents' childhood. Yeah. Because both Adam and I, our dads, lost their jobs while we were kids. Yeah. And not that is the world's worst thing. It's how it was handled. And we never got to say anything or had any power. I would do it very differently if Adam and I lost a job.
Starting point is 01:28:46 We would talk to our, it would be very different. We could do something differently. I think back in the day, it was just heads down and everyone feel bad. It was a sign of, I don't know, weakness or something. It was like socially, it's just a moral problem. A moral problem. Yeah. In fact, he had people who he liked and trusted who told him he must be living his life
Starting point is 01:29:06 wrong. Um, I always tell people that story because that same dude lost his business later and ended up committing suicide. So I don't know what that means or what the story is there. But, uh, the point is like, I think you and I have some of that and Adam, obviously, because of his situation. Yeah. There's a knee jerk reaction to pull back and not go full risk and to not like every time someone's like, hey, you really should hire some full-time frog pants person to keep everything together. And I'm like, I should, but I'm not going to because I don't want to tell anyone. that they're fired ever in my life.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Oh, God, yeah, sure. I can't do it. It happens to a lot of people. I see, like, you know, other, let's call them, other podcast networks where they got to lay people off or close down or do whatever. And some people even close to us in our circles have had to go through this. And I just look at it as like, ew, no thanks. I'd rather wipe myself out physically and mentally than lay that on somebody else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:03 So did you just say the perfect statement for how you're a victim of your parents? child. Kind of did, yeah. For sure, yeah. I think that's it. Okay, I bring this up, definitely to poop on the fun mood of the alien conversation, but also I think it's a fun one to think about, like, you know, go sit down with your loved ones at dinner tonight and say, like, how are you a victim of your parents' childhood?
Starting point is 01:30:24 Or if you saw aliens, what would you do? You get to pick. It'd be interesting. If anyone does experiment, let us know, I would love to hear, I'd love to hear if anyone else besides me thinks Neil deGrasse Tyson would like to talk to them immediately. That was my first stuff. Hey, Wendy, what's great is I'm going to a wedding tonight and I'll actually be able to say, you know, hey, how did your parents' life screw you up? And they'll be able to point to somebody in the room and actually point them out and say, that's the person who messed me up right there.
Starting point is 01:30:50 That's right. You've got to remember, it's their childhood that messed you up. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Brian is performing this wedding. So he has got a lot of power there, you know. Oh my gosh, you should do it over the mic. Just be like, hey, real quick question about aliens. Raise your head.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Like, what would you do if you sign aliens? Yeah. I wonder how that would go. Reach me on if you'd tell no one. Fairly beloved, but really quick. One second. Yeah, yeah. Before that, though, can we take care of this wedding? Right, exactly, yeah. That's amazing. All right. Well, this has given us some food for thought today. Any books you'd like us to read while we're thinking about this, how our childhood.
Starting point is 01:31:28 No, I don't have any books for you to read. But I do have an announcement. So No Better You was supposed to start in September. Notice it's October. I have had a lot of different various reasons for that and hiccups But really the big main reason is that I want it to be really good and it's going to be And I am so on the right track right now I was not in August So I was like this is not going to work abort mission Anyway so it's going to be great So really January is going to be the secondary truly official start date
Starting point is 01:31:59 And so things will be coming out in the next month or two that you'll see and yeah I just learned something by myself. Don't think I can do something because I have summer. Summer is not like it was when you were a kid. It's in fact, 10 times harder. It's also 10 times shorter. It's so short. Kids think when they get out of school in May and they go, yeah, summer, dude, they have
Starting point is 01:32:22 no idea because their time sense is all off. So they think that three months is an eternity of good times. Yeah, totally. It is so short. It is five seconds or less. I hate it. I want that. you're growing up, it gets shorter and shorter and shorter. It really does.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Do you have, we should do an episode on that because I want to reverse that in my own head if I can do it somehow. Like I want a month. I know how you can. Okay. All right. Because it's already the third of October. And last time I looked it was like July. So help me now. I know. It's crazy. Actually, that would be a great email. If someone could write in about their experience with time being warped in any direction, doesn't even have to be that it's compressed and goes faster. It could be like, for example. If I was writing it, I'd say, hey, I had vertigo, and I laid still for eight hours. And I wasn't bored for one minute. And I'll tell you why, because if I moved my head. Yeah. I've never focused so much on the moment in my life because it was the one way to not feel sick. And time flew by.
Starting point is 01:33:25 But also was very zen in weird ways. Anyway, because it's about attention. So anyway, I don't want to give away all the secrets yet. but just anyone who have a thing they can like just their experience um where this is like melted their brain how quick time goes and then why it was so yeah that kind of thing give the email address and people will will send something in oh yeah uh do it to the morning stream at gmail com everybody and if you'd rather text at 801 471 0462 and if you want to stay anonymous in both those formats not a problem we don't we never use names if you don't want us to okay uh windy i hope
Starting point is 01:34:01 you have a great week. And may all your alien discussions be white. I don't know what that means. Have a good one. We'll talk to you soon. Bye. All right. I really don't know what that meant. So I don't know why I said it. Hey, guess what? Shows are coming up. We do not have a coverville today. But do, reminder, do go back and listen to the 20-year episode. That's awesome. Huge landmark. Great place to get in there and then go back and listen to everything else. Brian's ever done. All right? There you go. Do that. tuck in. It's only 1,500 episodes. You'll be. Tuck in. It's only 1,500 episodes. be fine. Core is tonight. Sorry, 5 p.m.s when we start that show. Five p.m. Mountain time. That'll change
Starting point is 01:34:38 soon in November when the clocks flip. But right now it's still at five. And we got a lot to talk about. So join me, Bo and John, for a big video game party. That's core. Frogpants.com slash core. Play retro is not happening this week because Dunaway is also leaving to come meet with you. So he will not be able to do that. Plus, his internet is still screwy, even though he got power back. We're going to really play some retro. Well, instead of him doing the show called Play Retro. Yeah, maybe he'll film some of that and we'll, you know, we can make it an episode. I don't know, something like that. And then FilmSack this weekend is indeed happening.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Texas Chainsaw Massacre the Next Generation. You may know it as for or return of. Return of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But we're calling it TNG because that's stupid, you know? It's really dumb. And it's got your Renee Zellweger and your Matthew McConaughey in it, early roles for both of them. Yeah, a big deal for them. All right, all right, all right.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Oscar winners both and somehow in this movie. It's pretty weird. Anyway, we recorded this. It's already up, or it's already, it already exists, but it won't be posted until this weekend. So watch for that and get ready for Sacktober because that is what kicks it off. You got anything else, Brian, before we head out and be done? I can't.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Nothing else. All right. You guys at home, or you guys at the Southeast meetup, have a fantastic time. Be safe getting where you got to get, all that stuff. Everybody in Savannah, everybody coming in from other places, be safe. and enjoy Brian while you have it. And follow me on threads if you want to see. I'll post some photos of the wedding and me and my suit and Lavalier miced up and all that stuff before the ceremony.
Starting point is 01:36:13 And maybe if I can during the ceremony. We never talk about this, but we mostly post on threads now, Brian and I. So if you want to find him, he's Coverville. You want to find me, I'm actual Scott on there. It's my Instagram name, so that's why it's dumb. But anyway, we like threads more than we like it. So if you want to follow our daily musings and also keep track of him over the weekend, that's the place to do it. That is it.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Frogpants.com slash TMS for all else. And let's leave them now with a song in their hearts and their minds. Yeah, this comes from Joe Acosta, frequent person in the tadpole and email and text and discord, all that. Greetings Scott and Brian. On May 7th, 2024, I was diagnosed with a rare and aggressive form of stomach cancer. Not so rare, thankfully, that it's being named after me, but rare enough to be a headache. On October 4th, 2024, I'm having a full gastrectomy to confirm that the cancer has not spread beyond my stomach and hopefully put this phase of treatment to rest. Good luck, Joe.
Starting point is 01:37:14 We are all sending positive vibes towards. Yeah, I hate this. This is such a common name in our community. We see him all the time, hear from him all the time. And to hear this is happening to him just guts me. I hate it. Yeah. This may sound silly, but my stomach has been a best friend of me my entire life.
Starting point is 01:37:29 My love of food motivated me to study culinary arts in my 20s after already having a career in IT. Food has also been a conduit for meeting new people. Such was the case last October when I had the privilege to dine with me and Tina here in Denver. I'd like to dedicate thanks for the memory to my belly for all the fun we've had together. I'm especially fond of the Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass version, which I think has played a role as background music on TMS. If this version is not available for some reason, perhaps a cover of Eat It. I leave it in your capable cover master hand, signed Joe Acosta. Joe, obviously, yeah, we are thinking about you and pulling for you,
Starting point is 01:38:06 and I want to hear from you as soon as things go well, and let me know that you're recovering and that they indeed got all of it out with good margins. Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, you've heard this song on TMS a lot. I don't know if you use it recently, but thanks for the memory by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. comes from the album The Beat of the Brass from 1968.
Starting point is 01:38:32 It's a great cover. Here is Herbalt and the Tijuana Brass. All right, that's going to do it for us. We'll see you guys next week. Brian will be back. Probably have some stories in tow. I will hopefully have stories.
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Starting point is 01:40:27 know what I'm going to Hey guys. Just listening to Thursday show that the Frisbee talks. episode, you guys are talking about Vermont. I've been up here 21 years. I'm originally from Pittsburgh, PA. Even New Hampshire has less people than the surrounding area of Pittsburgh, the entire state. But going to Vermont is like stepping back in time.
Starting point is 01:41:13 I can remember my wife surprised me with a trip over there probably 10 years ago. but there was an old-school pizza hut, the original Pizza Hut still open in the same shopping center as a radio shack. And they, when you went to buy something with a credit card, they gave you the crap that you have to spend $5 or $10 for them to use a credit card, which nobody does anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Yeah, Vermont is a unique place. Every state up here has its own flavor, but yeah, Vermont's something special. Hey, love the show. Talk to you later. Thanks, bye. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Yes.
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