The Morning Stream - TMS 2721: Horse in The Attic

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Broken Nose Whatshisname McGee. Topless Shoplifting. Teacher not a T-Shirt. You get No Sopa, No Ropa, and No Lieutenant Yar! Salem and Hutch. Brat Pack Adjacent. Predate Prey Love. Rating different Poops. Animal poo merit badge. Mashed Devil's Tower potatoes. sheen of goo. I still believe in greasy saxophone players. is there a horse in the attic? Neigh. A girl, a tree, and a piece of rebar. Hermititude with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It might be spooky time here in October, but not if you're a patron at patreon.com slash TMS. It's the only way to keep bees from flying out of your mouth. Coming up on the morning stream, Broken knows what's his name McGee. Topless shoplifting. Teacher, not a t-shirt. You'll get no soapa, no roper, and no lieutenant y'ar! Salem and Hutch. Brat pack adjacent.

Predate prey love. Rating different poops. Animal poo merit badge. Oh. Mashed Devils Tower Potatoes. Sheen of goo. I still believe in greasy saxophone players. Is there a horse in the attic?

Nay. A girl, a tree, and a piece of rebar. Uh, hermititude with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Mary, the baby doesn't come out of your navel. Let me tell you how it is. There's a special opening just in front of the place where you have your BM. He'd bite your neck and give you the glee. The morning stream smells like apple pie.

And we're back to the show called the morning stream. Hey, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, October 17th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hello. And happy, happy Thursday.

Happy last regular episode of the week before we kick off our brand new Patreon Friday show. I'm excited about that. Yeah, TMS Fridays. Tomorrow you got to be a patron to get in there. So you still have time, just like a buck will get you in. Super cheap. A buck a month. What insanity is that?

A buck a month. Come on. And, you know, and if you feel a little froggy, go two bucks. Like, live a little. Yeah. What are you talking? 24 bucks a year. Loose in the tie.

Loose in the tie and go two. Yeah. Open that wallet. Wide. Let it breathe. You know, don't be such a cheap skate. But anyway, it'll be tomorrow and we're excited. We've got a lot to talk about there.

So tune in. Today, though, big stuff. Wendy will be here later. We've missed her a couple of weeks in a row. And it's a good thing we're doing it today because I don't think she's here next Thursday because she has, Kim's flying there to watch her kids

while they do their anniversary thing. And I think that means she'll be gone Thursday because they're gone for like a whole seven days. So anyway, yeah. So I'm going to be a bachelor again for like another week. another week yeah that's gonna suck but it's you know

Carter and I will make do her friend Alicia who lives with this right now is actually in France at some kind of art residency thing and so it's just her and I meet us and the dogs

and that'll be fun I think we're gonna make her watch some movies that she's never seen kind of you know yeah in fact I think the next series might be predator but here's our predator watch

oh we got we watched I forgot to say we watched Romulus because it's out now. Romulus. Oh, right, yes. So we did. Streaming.

Okay. Yeah, we got it right under the wire, mostly thanks to KT data, but also it's out. All right? We had to ensure that we saw it before she left because she was leaving the very next day. Perfect.

Anyway, they loved it. And I think that this is now their, if not their favorite, it's right up there with one and two. Oh, really? Like everybody else. That's how I feel about Romulus. I put it right up there with one and two.

I'd put it like, a very close third. Yeah, I think I still might put, oh, there's so much a Romulus I like, though. I still might put Covenant and Prometheus before it because I really like the world building. I really like the setup in that. It's so hard because I put all those movies,

they're all so tightly clustered up at the top of the list. Yeah, and things like Resurrection kind of have their legs hanging out of the side a little bit. Sure, yes, exactly. But they're all in there. It's an easy one to put last. Yeah. For me, it's an easy one to put less, but it's still like, you know, it's still a B-minus movie.

Yeah, they're all in the same carriage. Just some of them are pushed to the side a little bit, you know? A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. We enjoyed the hell out of it, though. And anyway, the point of that is, oh, we're thinking about Predator next, but here's the Predator watch plan. Predator. Mm-hmm.

Predators. Prey. And that's it. Everything else gets skipped. We're not doing two. It's a piece of shit. We're not doing Predator or The Predator. That sucks. That's terrible.

The one, the recent one, is-ish one. But then Prey, the most recent, that one rocks. It's on Netflix right now. Oh, that one's so good, yeah. So I'm thinking we may just do like three movies and be done with that series. I don't know. That's a pretty good setup. Yeah, no, skip all the AVP stuff.

Let them watch that if they really feel like they need to expand things. Yeah, they can do that on their own. I'm not re-watching those. Exactly. Only way I'll watch those again is if you guys make me for FilmSec. That's it. Yeah. And if we do that, we're only doing the first one because Requiem, the sequel is really, really, really bad.

The first one's okay. It's like kind of fan fiction, fun, but the second one's just a piece of terrible meat. It's awful. Did we, have we not done any of the AVP stuff? I know we did Predators. Nope, no AVP. And we did Predator, but no AVP stuff. Yeah, we did Predator, Predators.

I think we did Predators, didn't we? The one with the Broken Nose, what's his name, McGee? what's his name pianist pianist guy with a broken nose yes Adrian

Brody that's it Brody Thank you Thank you You had Adrian I had Brody Together we made

We made a man We're like We're like the Rees's peanut butter cup Of memory retention Is what we are By the way For the Salem's lot

Are we watching the 2000 Are we watching the 79 miniseries or the 2004 miniseries? I think it's the 79 one But I Maybe we should check with the boys.

I'm going to check with Randy because I just realized they're, I think both are on Max right now. Yeah, let's check with those guys because I'm not 100%. I'm glad you asked. I didn't even think of that. I forgot there were two, to be honest. I'll throw a question in here. I bet Randy actually probably put the year next to it. I kind of wish it was the 2024 one, but that's not fully out yet, right?

It's only parts of it. It's 2004, I think. Isn't there one this year? There's a brand new one this year, I think. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Like on... I saw something get...

On Max, I think. No, I have not seen... Yeah, I think that was just promoting the 2004 miniseries. Really? I swear there's a brand new one. I swear. Really? I'm positive.

Maybe. Maybe. But maybe I'm smoking crap. I don't doubt you. What's the... I forgot the name in the movie. What is it? Okay.

It's Salem's Lot. Yeah, everybody's agreeing. There is a brand new one as well. So that's just not on Wikipedia yet. Too new, I guess. there's the oh no there it is it's just a film okay the other two are mini series 79 and 2004 is a film gotcha here it is yep just came out october 3rd alfred woodard uh lewis pullman i don't know who that is that bill pullman's son probably uh bill camp yes he is exactly who he is cool um i kind of wish we were watching that because guess what brian that movie's only uh the new movie's only an hour 54 minutes the 75 uh thing is It sounded that a lot. I don't know.

Having to do three hours. Oh, my God. It's a lot. Maybe we should have planned differently. But, oh, well, what are you going to do? Randy confirms 1979 Salem's lot. Okay. Well, I guess I'll watch one hour tonight.

One hour the next night and in another hour to the following that. Don't we all sound excited about that? I'm sure we're going to have blast with it, but that's so much content. Gosh, dang it. It's got hutch. Yeah, it's a lot. David Sol. David Sol is your dude.

Hutch from Starsky and Hutch. Oh, that's our guy? That's our guy. Oh, my gosh. Was he Hutch or was he... No, he wasn't Starsky. He was the blonde. He was hutch.

I remember nothing. It's a Luke, Duke. I was what was confusing with. He was right, exactly. Oh, the Rob Lowe's the O'Four one? I haven't even heard of that. Oh, wow. Yeah, I know.

That's got a cast, though. Andre Brower, Donald Sutherland. It does. I know. I kind of wish we were watching that one. Roger Hauer. Can we change gears and see that? that's only an hour 31 oh really it's a mini series so it's got that you think you're looking at

one episode aren't you or is it only two episodes uh how long are they probably an hour to have each uh you're probably right let's see yeah running running time 181 minutes so three hours and one minute ah damn it the i'm db listing the for the header they show one hour 31 they mean each yeah bastards he's each yeah all right cromwell's in that retker hower yeah yeah Why don't we switch gears and do this one? Donald Sutherland? Why aren't we watching that one? Damn it.

Oh, I heard a thing. You want to hear a thing about Kiefer Sutherland, I learned? Sure. Okay. So my neighbor, my friend Darren and his wife, Ruthanne, they used to live in Toronto, or she did. And when she lived up there for a long time, when she was much younger, she worked in a hair salon. She was doing hairstyle stuff. And they would get some celebrities in there sometimes that were either Canadian themselves or were there filming in Toronto.

for some reason in Toronto, as opposed to Vancouver or something else. And she got, Keanu Reeves came in once and she said he was, and this is right around the time of Bill and Ted's excellent adventure or bogus journey, one of the two, said that Keanu Reeves was the nicest dude she'd ever met like that. He was very kind, tipped her big, was really sweet and just talkative and just a nice guy, right? That makes sense. We all know this. That tracks with everything we've ever heard about him, so that's good.

It's good to hear like kind of boots on the ground. someone we know or you know that confirms that. But then we've got Lost Boys era Kiefer Sutherland. You think you like those maggots or whatever, Michael? How do you like those maggots, Michael? Yep, we're that era of him. And she says he was the biggest dick in there. Just walking around acting like everybody owed him something, super rude, tipped tiny.

He may be a totally nice guy now. You give a guy enough 24 episodes. Maybe that changes a man. I don't know. but apparently he was a real rough customer to deal with over there yeah uh that's a bummer too bad you know he he's one of those um outside the brat pack but feels like he's tangential to it yeah he was always connected to stuff like uh right i don't know like what movies am i thinking of maybe there aren't any um young guns he was in stuff with uh right yeah there's a good one he was in stuff with members of

the of the brat pack but um yeah uh but never not really a brat pack uh a member himself yeah there's some talk in this house also of watching that lost boys because the girls haven't seen that either and i'm i'm hesitant only because um i don't know i feel like that movie i'm worried that i'm gonna i know we saw it for film sack and we were fine with it but i'm worried that i'm worried that my feelings for it are are elevated over what it actually is like it doesn't hold up the way i think it does that a lot of your like uh like for that movie is based on nostalgia and not on the actual quality of the movie or even maybe based more on that song which is so awesome i love that song that i still believe no not not that one no oh the cry little cry little sister

gerard mcman yeah love that song yeah that thing gets me right in the right i'm not the i bought the the vinyl of that uh of gerard mcman's album because of that song and i'm like oh why did i buy the whole thing. God, I wish in the future there'd be away for me just to buy one song that I like. Oh, that'd be amazing, wouldn't it? I look forward to that future. So the rest of that album sucks? This is like the only good song on there. It's just unmemorable. Yeah. I mean, I could, I'd listen to that full album, had the lyric sheet sat on the couch the way I really like to enjoy an album when I brought

it home. And, uh, cry a little sister. This song's so good. All right, what's the next song? Yeah. That's the worst. That's the worst when you buy an album thinking, man, these guys must be just full of hits. Nope. Yeah. Nope. There's a reason you're a one-hit wonder. A soundtrack went at wonder. Exactly. It's almost worse.

Phil from Buffalo wrote in. I wanted to share this. We were talking the other day that there aren't too many other mammals that live very long. We always talk about turtles living forever, but like your dog, you got a good 12. Yeah, your domesticated pets, yeah. So I basically made the comment that there are no other fur babies that live longer than a dog or whatever. And Phil wrote in and said, listening to the October 15th, that basically, episode. You asked about fur babies that live for more than 30 years. Horses! Horses live usually to be in their 20s, but it's not unusual for them. It's not unusual for them to live into their 30s. Going from personal experience or going from personal experience as my wife is a equestrian helps run a horse rescue, and we have three of them in our backyard. Oh, geez. I want to see your backyard.

I'm kidding. Anyway, I didn't know that. I didn't know horses lived 30 years. I had no idea. I didn't know that either. And I guess I would have probably, I would have, uh, If you were to say, Brian, how long do you think horses live on average? I probably would have said 20s, 30s, somewhere in there. Yeah, yeah. And parents, you don't think of, the horse's life is fleeting as a, like a 18-year-old animal. But, interesting. But, I mean, you'd know if you had a horse in the attic. Oh, right.

You'd absolutely. Yeah, back to the original point, you would absolutely know what animal. You'd know if the horse escaped into the attic and was subsiding on grandpa's photos or whatever. And even if your horse was up there living on grandpa's photos and rats and only lived to be 20, the other 10 years you would have the worst smell in your house and you, you know what I mean? Like that'd be rotten up there. It'd be terrible. Oh, it'd be horrendous.

And the poop. My gosh, the poop in the attic would be a horrendous. I kind of like horse poop. Now, let me explain. I like horse poop more than human poop or other animal poop because horse poop just seems like discarded hay clumps. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. right they're they're uh like you put on a you put on a glove and you can get rid of some horse poop pretty easily

yeah no big deal you could use it in your garden or something or maybe you shouldn't i don't know how i don't know how fertilizer works probably they look like um they look like they'd be great for probably smell horrendous but great for like a fire starting because of all the hay content oh right yeah we did that as we did that as we did that as scouts you had to use animal scat to start a fire yeah Okay, all right. I don't think that was part of the merit badge stuff. I just think our Scoutmaster was sadistic and wanted us to... Oh, it's too bad because I would really like to seem the patch that you would have gotten for animal poop fire making.

Just a little poop emoji with some stink lines on it. Exactly. Easy to embroider, you know. Anyway, thanks, Phil. Appreciate the correction there. Let's see. Shalidane. Chalidane.

Chalidane. Chalidane. Rodin. Correction on my Spanish. as if this is ever even in question that my Spanish is crap. Hello, Sopa and Bouchet, Boucha, Boucher, Bouch, Bish. Bouchet. There's no accent on the E, so I don't know.

I know Sopa. Yeah. I don't know. I was hoping he'd say Sopa and Pia, because then you get the whole thing. There was a thing that my Spanish teacher, first Spanish teacher, boy, this would have been junior high. Mr. Not Nelson. Mr. was his name. Anyway, he would say, ah, man.

Mexico, where the sopah ain't soap, the ropa ain't rope, and the butter is mentaquilla. Oh, I love that. Yeah. That's great. That's how you can remember that soapa does not mean soap and ropa does not mean rope and butter is mentakia. I desire this t-shirt. I think that would be great. Well, there's a teacher, not a t-shirt.

Oh, yeah, but no, that quote I made would be amazing. You just want that on a t-shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. I'd wear that. Here's what Chaladayne says. listening to 2718 in Scott's pronunciation of Spanish, although he spelled pronunciation. No, he got it right.

The restaurant Botella is actually pronounced Botaya, and the double L is pronounced as E or Y. Perro me Encanta La Programma, meaning he loves the show, I guess. That's what that is in Spanish. Yeah, no, I know. I knew it was not the way I was saying it. But it is missing an L on their menu.

So there's only one L in. this restaurant name. Only one L, B-O-T-E-L-A? Yeah, which I thought was a little weird. Oh, then I would say that that's not Botea. Yeah. I think that would, because the E-A-A, the letter E-A-A-is only double L.

So I think it's, it would still be Bottela. Yeah, right? Which is bottles. Yeah, I think it's still Botella, and I think I got it right, and I think Shaladayne is wrong. That's what I think. Sorry, Shaladane. Final question.

Brian, this is for you. I was outside. This morning. It is watching one of the dogs take a crap. And it was like a rainy day. We had the weather shift during the night. And it's now cool out and I think a high of 50 something today. Really cold overnight. And it was raining. So raining pretty heavily. And this is something I've never seen before. I hear as I'm out there waiting for the dog, I'm like, hurry up, boomer. And she's hurrying. She's doing what she does. And then I hear. hear this. Like coming toward the house. That is an excellent impersonation, by the way. You like that? That is a Winslow level. I give that a Winslow 8. Thank you.

Oh my gosh. It does. That's a, I love that as a ranking system, a Winslow 8. Oh my gosh. Ask your Gen X friends what we're talking about there. Anyway, so this, I hear what sounds like a drone coming. Sure enough, a drone.

in the rain. Now, maybe they all make all the new drones like rain and water resistant. I don't know. But I've never seen that before. That was weird to me. That felt like government shit. Yeah. If you've got, I mean, I guess I wouldn't have, I wouldn't do it personally

with my own drone, which I haven't flown in a couple of years. I need to get that thing out and fly it around. But um, uh, but I guess, I guess they make them that are that are waterproof that don't have vents or anything important on top that you wouldn't want water

to get into? Yeah, and it stopped right above me for a second and then moved on. Oh, really? So it's like checking you out. Somebody's sitting at home going, who's this guy? All right, move on. Yeah, and we have very specific not laws, but what do you call ordinances? There you go.

Sure. In the HOA and in the city that say you're not allowed to go that low and hover over people's houses and stuff, but it didn't stop whoever this was, yeah. I know that, so I know Tesla's got like a bunch of drones. Of course he does. But I don't think that was his. And it also seemed to come from a place and then circle around to go back to a place that's opposite where he was. So I don't know who's it was or what

the deal was, but I didn't know those could handle rain. And here's the funny part. Just last night, I'm watching that episode of, an episode of season two of From where a shaved head dude whips out a drone to try to get an antenna in the sky. Yeah. I didn't, what's going on? Or universe is trying to tell me something. So what I'm saying. Yeah, right. I guess so. It's like drones are back in Pog form. By the way, doesn't that guy make you like Jade a little bit more? Yeah, a little bit. That guy is even more of an asshole than Jade.

He is. He's like, he's maybe a little bit less two-dimensional, but I do find him abhorrent. Like, I don't want to be around him. Yes. You know? No. No. And I'm glad they did what they did with him.

Man, that show is so good. Where they sequestered him. Yeah, it's really good. You know, mid-season or early season two, I started really like Jade in the direction he was going. You know, thinking about who he might remind you of, could be Jason Matzukas kind of thing. Like, he's got a Matzukas kind of vibe. That's a good call. Yeah, but every episode, it's the same.

I get the same feeling of I know this guy, but I don't. Like, I know him. I know him from something, but it's not him. It's not this actor. But he's doing something with that character that immediately takes me somewhere, and it's right on the tip of my tongue, and I can't freaking figure it out. But I like him, though. I like the season so far.

I do have this question, dude. I'm starting to get this feeling of, and you don't have to tell me anything. But I'm getting that lost feeling of, I mean, the whole thing's very lost to Jason anyway, but I'm getting this feeling of like, all right, how on earth do you sell? Are they piling up too many questions

without answering the first ones? Yeah, maybe. Or do they have an end game? Like, is there a plan? Because the reason, so you and I didn't hate the end of loss, but admittedly, the end was not an answer to much. No, and there's still, you know, there was admission by the writers that said, we, you know, we created mysteries that we knew in the future we would have to come up with reasons for and answers for, but we didn't have those answers at the time. And it's like, I feel like if you're going to come up with some big mystery, you better have an end game for that mystery in place, right? Yeah, yeah.

Ah, crap, the internet did its thing. Switching back over. Season three, and I feel like they're really close to answering some questions. I'm hoping that they are. Yeah, same. I want it to have, I don't need complete, I don't need full complete closure. Right? Like, I'm not here at demanding.

enclosure in every single I don't need to sew up every single loose end yeah but I do I do get nervous because there's so many new in season two alone there's like 12 new mysteries oh yeah yeah wait till you get to season three Scott oh my gosh I mean they're just as compelling as anything like it's not that it's bad in fact I'm really I'm so in it's like ridiculous how in I am right I'm addicted but I am also there's a little voice in the back of my head going oh shit do They know where they're going even. Do they know how this is going to go? Because I can't imagine they got 10 seasons in them.

They probably got less than that. I'll tell you got, you know, you get like, because Jade's visualizing the symbol right now, right? Yeah. You'll get an answer to that. Oh, good. He just did the thing where he put the bottles on the floor to look like the symbol, like a weirdo. Yeah, I'm making devil's tower out of mashed potatoes. This means something.

Yeah. That's funny. I'm making, putting these mashed potatoes in the form of Devil's Tower. Now I'm going to watch Mr. Opus tonight because you've inspired me. Oh, beautiful coal. I didn't say we need a bigger boat. The other guy did. Now he's a pirate.

I don't know why. Now he's a pirate, you are. Anyway, yeah, no, I'm, I think, I feel like some of the answers that you're looking for, you will get at the end of season two, and you will. We'll just get some more new ones in season three. But there are the over, there's, you know, obviously there's the big overarching question or overarching question, arching. Has that kid hit puberty yet?

I'm worried about that a little. Yeah, he is a lot bigger. He jumped from two to three. And you know what? His acting got a lot better between two and three. Oh, it did. Good. Yes.

There are moments, like I said, in one and two, there are moments where he's like really good as a kid actor. You're like, oh, okay. And then there are times you're like, oh, maybe do that scene again. That wasn't great. Exactly. maybe you shouldn't take use that take maybe you should have asked for another yeah uh man i'm really enjoying it though so the daughter though yeah anyway yeah it's it's a good show it's still in still loving it

yeah there's a so i'll say one more brief thing about it there's this girl i told brian about it last night this girl that uh i'll just say it involves a tree and a piece of rebar um you'll know it when you get there but it's a very small thing and this actress is so freaking good that i was convinced the whole time that we that she's still going on like we're not going to lose her that's kind of a spoiler but i i was so blown away by her performance it almost made everyone else look like amateurs she was so good really did yeah she uh she what a fantastic performance from her yeah i've never even heard of her before and i don't know what's next but i hope that's a star making role because she's that good she's really very very uh believable acting with her oh my

god yeah so uh we'll see how it goes i'm still on the MGM plus month free trial thing because they pulled the two seasons from prime. How many episodes there are in season three but... They're doing them one in a week.

Is that the deal? They're doing one a week. I don't know. Sometimes I like that. Sometimes I don't. I'd rather binge it. I don't think there's ever a situation where it's like

I really wish they'd stretch these out. No, I want them all at the same time. This kind of show especially, right? It's like, I need to know what happens next. And I don't want to forget some details during the week. Let me just have it. I know some people argue for the, I miss the days when we'd stand around the water cooler

and talk about that week's a thing. Like, no, talk about it around the water cooler because you watch the whole thing in one shot, do that. Exactly. Nothing wrong with that at all. By the way, I think we'll both be happy. So 10 episodes in season three. November 17th and 24th are the last two episodes. And the titles of those episodes are,

Revelations chapter one, Revelations chapter two. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. So hopefully we're going to get some revelations. That's right. I also, I'm absolutely in love with the character, Vincent, and I think that he is, so he, I guess he's a folk singer or something. He's in some band, I don't know, in real life, I mean. Yeah, a Victor, you mean, right?

Yeah, Victor, what did I say, Spencer? He said Vincent. Oh, Vincent. Yeah, I meant Victor. He's on the cord, yeah. He's great. I'd never heard of him before. He's really good.

I know. He's another person that you feel like you've seen in other things. Yeah. Because he's, yeah. You all need to watch from. It's good. We're telling you. It's really good.

Yeah. Do it. Just quit, quit listening to us, talk about it. Just do it. We have turned a lot of people on to go and check that out. Yeah. Four thumbs up, as it were, today. That's right.

That's right. Anyway, drones in the rain, weird thing. Moving on. Victor, one of Victor's voice roles in the Carebear's Journey to Joke a lot and the Carebear's Big Wish movie. He plays Bedtime Bear. Oh, my Lord. Very different character.

Like way back in the day or something recent? Or what is that? Is that from the... 2002, 2004, 2005. What? Yeah. That's insane. I can't even hear it.

He doesn't strike me as the care bear's voice type. No. No, he's great. They found him the perfect role here, so... Yeah, they did. Yeah. All right. Well, that's all she wrote for that.

We're going to get into some news and then a little later. My sister will be here. But let's dive into some news and let's do it with this. Today's news brought to you by. I'd love to know what that Stinger's called. News is brought to you today by Coverville. It is a Coverville Thursday, which means there will be a Coverville episode at noon, Mountain Time,

12 p.m. Mountain Time at Twitch.tv. And it's going to focus on a woman who is turning 40 next week. And 40 years old, and she always seems to know where all the cameras are because she will always play to them no matter, there's no off-guard, candid moments for Miss. Katie Perry, real name Kate Hudson, and probably gives you an

idea why she changed it. Yeah, I would imagine so. She came after Kate Hudson. A little bit of competition in that department. Who's the best Kate Hudson? But she is the best Katie Perry. I'll say that. Yeah. So today, noon, check it. No, T-shirt, not included.

And she still shoots fireworks from her boobies, right? That's still a thing. I think that was just for the song Fireworks. She shot Lions through boobs for the song Roar. And I don't know what she shot through her boobs for the song. I kissed a girl, but it probably... Well, her parents at the MTV Music Awards looked like... Oh, she did there too, didn't she?

Well, it looked like she shot baby oil out of her boobs because everybody was coated in a baby oil. Oh, really? Yeah, that's weird. That's funny, because Orlando Bloom was they're all dressed up in a nice tux-looking thing, and he looked real, he looked dry and clean, and he's holding her hand, but kind of at a distance. And she's covered in some sheen of goo the whole time. you have to lose someone get us a picture and send that to us so brian can see this is really weird johnson and johnson lactation uh that she was giving off yeah i can only assume that was coming

from her breast and her glands let's hope right yeah i mean that's where the fireworks came from why not uh all right check this out earth will have have a temporary mini moon for two months it's just like a mini moon moon are you excited about this you're going to go out and check it out I hope so. I hope to hopefully see the comet in the next couple of nights. We've had so much haze from wildfires. We've got wildfires in Colorado, some in Utah that are blowing some smoke over to us, and Arizona has some smoke coming to us. We're keeping you down. It's our goal. I know, cut it out. Put your fires out. And we need to as well, Colorado. Come on. Let's see here. There's Earth's Moon. We'll soon have some company, a mini moon.

the mini moon is actually an asteroid about the size of a school bus at 33 feet 10 meters or so is how big this thing is when it whizzes by Earth on Sunday or do we miss it was it this Sunday no it's this coming Sunday I think is it this coming Sunday okay all right

I don't want to I think people are saying that already it already joined the orbit and I think it's going to be in our orbit for a little while well that's part of the article September 27th is when this article came out so that was a couple

sundays ago. Damn it. All right. Here's what you would have seen and you paid attention. Okay. The space rock, 2024 PT5 is what it's called,

was just spotted in August by astronomers at the Computense University of Madrid. Computense. Computense. I don't know if that's right. That doesn't sound right, doesn't it? Computense. That's what it's spelled like, but I don't know.

Anyway, using a powerful telescope located in Sutherland, South Africa, but apparently he's a bit of a dick. His dad's awesome. His dad's awesome. Dead, but awesome. The short-lived mini moons are more common, or are more common than we realize, says Richard Binzel, an astronomer at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. That's MIT, for short. Last known one was detected in 2020, so it's been four years.

This happens with some frequency, but rarely see them because they are small and very hard to detect. He says only recently has our survey capability. reached the point of spotting them routinely. The discovery by Carlos de la Fuente Marcos and Raoul de la Fuente Marcos, I assume they're brothers. I would assume so, but who knows, yeah. Yeah, maybe there's a lot of Del Fuente Marcos's down there.

That means, by the way, that is Spanish for I got fired from Marcos. Which sounds like a grocery store or something like that. It does, yeah. Or pizza, I guess Marcos pizza. It's a pizza place, yeah. Yeah, that works. Anyway, if anyone saw it, tell us how it was, because we didn't see it.

Yeah, 33 feet. Like, you know, if you Google image search, Minimoon, you get a lot of pictures that look like the twin sons of tattooing, right? It is not going to look that. It's not going to be that easy to spot. 33 feet is going to be, it's going to look like a, you know, a slightly bigger star kind of thing. Or like a, like when we see a satellite. a man-made satellite sure sure I probably

I mean many when I think of a moon I think stationary somewhat stationary obviously it moves or we move and therefore our view of it moves but so when I would think of this I would think oh it's a thing that's holding still somewhat but it sounds like this is hauling ass

oh no we I don't think it's gonna be hauling us to the point where where we're gonna see go shoo shoo shoo how cool would that be though that would be so cool how far this is outside the moon's orbit, right?

So this is orbiting, I misunderstood when I first heard about this. I was thinking it was going to get trapped by like in the it was going to get close enough to the moon to get caught in any gravity that the moon has. Very little gravity that the moon has. But it's going to be another,

it's going to orbit the Earth as well as the moon. Oh, gotcha. For a couple of months. And, but it's it's got to be a further orbit than the moon's orbit, right? It's not closer. It's not in between the moon and the Earth. They don't say explicitly here,

but I have to assume it's further out. But I don't know that for sure. I would assume so, yeah. Let's see here. Oh, here we go. Thank you BioCal for a really cool video he posted. Ooh. That's showing...

I like video. Oh, this thing, okay. It's on its little faraway... trajectory um that's the earth where's the moon in relation to it uh hold on turn that music off yeah it's the white the white line oh that's our the little dot around our earth is the moon going around it yeah the little dot that's that's our our moon and then this thing it's funny it's it doesn't this this uh animation is not showing it joining our or joining the orbit of of the moon it's just going to kind of pass by us.

Yeah. And stay pretty, obviously we're rotating, but it's pretty stationary, you know. I thought it was going to actually go around us. It's just going to, it's just going to keep on going on its heading and get a little bit closer to Earth because of our gravity, but not,

it won't orbit our, it won't orbit our planet. Right, kind of a near past thing. So this just keeps going to Omicron, Percy I8, or wherever it's headed. YouTube comments to NASA. Oh, I guess this is a NASA. the site. Video from space, space, uh, space, uh, or yes, videos from space is the YouTube channel. YouTube comments. Does not look like a capture to me. Nothing being captured.

WTF is wrong with people misleading with titles. You know, YouTube comments. They're not wrong. It's not really a capture. Influence. Yeah. Yeah. Planet influencer. Earth to temporarily capture a mini moon. It's not them saying the videos a capture. They're just saying how. I don't know. We're, I mean, we, it's not a capture unless that thing goes around us, right? Like it, it, uh, oh, Gwen is saying the animation isn't right. Well, I'm, I'm with, I'm with Gwen. Yeah, I'm with Gwen too.

Good. That would, that would make it a capture. All right. Well, there you go then. Some bullshit. Bye, Ocow, find us in some better animation. He's part of the, he's part of big space. He's trying to confuse us.

That's right. What's this thing called? 2024 RT4 or something like that. Yeah. R.T. Or T-20, I'm sorry, 2024 P-T-5. P-T-F, that was really close.

Yeah. The P-T-5 was last year's model. Yeah. This year's the- P-T-5 Pro is coming out soon. So watch that. Let me see if I can find another animation that better, let's see.

NASA, I trust, this is JPL NASA, and this one may show. All right, click for animation. Dot movie. All right, I'm going to give you a link Sweet. Oops. We're getting this right, you guys.

Science. Yeah, exactly. Copy. It, uh, I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing it being affected. Here we go. Um. I like this one.

I like this one too. Like it's top down view of our Earth's orbit around the sun. Okay. Feels like it should zoom in. Does it put? Yeah. That's true. If you have that temptation to pinch and zoom it, I just want to go, I really do.

Exactly. Like, this one just shows, like, the two dots kind of converge. Oh, yeah, it's clearly, I think it's... So it's going to keep going around us then? Temporarily, it's going to go around us for a little bit and then, uh, and then continue on its... That's Mary Way. It's really kind of continuing on its heading without much... Huh.

Uh, yeah, huh. It's like the magic school bus about the side. too pretty cool by the way I looked up mini moon in my image search and the first result was Peter Dinklage putting his bum on his window in the car that was weird

well you gotta have safe search off oh if you don't want to get damn it if you don't want to get any terrian I drink I show my butt Tyrion I show my butt here is our next story

this is about Walmart They are not in anyone's orbit, although you may be going there for stuff. I don't know. A Walmart shopper humiliated as she films herself shoplifting at a self-checkout and gets caught by AI. That's artificial intelligence for those not in the number. That is artificial intelligence. And boy, I love the fact that, you know, oh, it's so humiliating that I got caught shoplifting. Yeah, showing you as I filmed myself doing it.

A woman filmed herself shoplicking in a Walmart, self-chopting. check out before getting caught by the supermarket chain's AI-powered cameras, and they still shared the clip on TikTok. The shopper known as TikTok on TikTok as Neshah had captioned the clip, P-O-V when you usually don't get caught, and now you're banned for two years from all Walmarts in my area, unquote. Boy, you sure showed them. Yeah, and P-O-V, don't change first person to third person in the middle of your P-O-V. Yeah. Because, you know, when you get caught, and then you're...

banned from all the Walmarts in her area. It feels like it's kind of wrong. Grammar police, sorry. I'm just going to get on this person's case. It's all right. Look, you're on duty. You're an on duty officer in the grammar police department. And you can't just let crimes go by.

It's your job. No, exactly. The clip has amassed over 2.2 million views and shows her scanning several items to Walmart self-checkout system before she pretends to scan a backpack and places it in her shopping bag without actually processing the barcode. Why something big like a freaking backpack? What are you doing? I know.

That does seem. I'm not saying steal anything, but just do a box of mince or something. And I haven't watched the TikTok, but please tell me that she goes, boop, you know, like she makes that noise

when she scans the backpack to make it sound like she scanned it? Look at the lady and go, burp-b-b-b-ha. I love the Walmart one because they look, this is my favorite thing about Walmart to self-checkout. There was a while where they're self-checked, out kind of has an animation of an arm placing items so people can learn how it works or whatever

and it looked like it wasn't just their arm it was all the way up to their chest and it looked like skin tone like they weren't wearing a shirt so it looked like a it looked like a shirtless woman topless shopping yeah it looked like a shirtless woman doing this thing and then i made comments about it i maybe even talked about it here this is years ago and then next time or a few times later, I'm at the Walmart. We're doing self-checkout, and I noticed they have added a long-sleeve blue shirt to this lady. Oh, really? They finally decided, I think we're sending the wrong message here about how you should come shopping at Walmart. Yeah, I must not have been the only person who noticed, but that was pretty great. Bring back topless robot lady. Hey, we're going to

take a break. When we come back from this break, my sister Wendy will be here. She will not be falsely checking out any items. She'll be telling you how to live your life. And we got a great question from my old pal nicky uh doctor nicky oh cool we'll be addressing today so check that out coming up after this song break from brian ibitt what'd you bring yeah this one comes to us from uh from from frequent guest monthly guest amy red fraggle um we're in this music league together and she posted a song from a musician by juliana finch um that was called ashes and it was all about the discovery of the two people embracing in the middle of the the the lava in the pompeii was a pompey right the one that yeah cracket not crackatoa though yeah but

i know what you mean it was pompey i think was a pompey you're probably right i think it was pompey um anyway she reached out to the artist and said hey do you mind if uh we play a song for from your album on india in the middle on tms and juliana said oh please please do and so i decided all right let's give you guys another one this one's really cool i listened to all of these salt there's a song called salt that i decide not to use but you should check it out because it's got a very bluesy sultry kind of quality to it but um uh half light is the one i chose and this is a single this year released in twenty twenty three i think it's also on one of her albums and it's really really good here is juliana finch big thanks to uh amy amy robinson for suggesting this one here

is half light You only see her in the half of light It's just enough to travel by Never get to kiss her before midnight When she wants you, she'll just pick a fight She knows you're going to let it slide You can be wrong to make her feel right Maybe it ain't love, but it can be enough

For now I'm trying to fill you up from an empty girl it's only gonna let you down she can be a runaway train she's a fire in the vein a siren when she says your name when she says your name

when she says your name Love let us give you paper cuts Words cool to the touch Full promises you shouldn't trust Should back down if you need too much Leave you standing in the dust You wonder why you keep it up Maybe it ain't love, but it can be enough for now.

Trying to fill you up from an empty girl. It's only gonna let you down. She can be a runaway train. She's a fire in the vein. A siren when she says your name. So you paint the lights on your way It'll be enough to pull you into the sun You're drawn in

Feel the warmth on your skin Until you come undone Until you come undone Until you come and die She can be a She can be a run She's a fire in the bay. A siren when she's a fire in the bay, a siren when she says

your name she can be a runaway train she's a fire in the lane a siren when she says your name when she says your name you She's in the half of light

It's just enough to travel by She found that the spicy She found that the spicy caraway flavor made a good contrast to the bland fish and cheese Gorillas turn. Brian, who was that one more time, please? That, that, my friends, was Julianna Finch from single of the same name from 2023.

That is Halflight. Again, big thanks to Amy Robinson. Nice. We like it when you guys find something cool and then get permission. That's amazing. Totally, yeah. It saves me a lot of work, and you guys almost always have great taste and pick something really cool. Yeah, a bunch of you have

asked, or a few people, I shouldn't say a bunch. A few people have asked if I have any new music for my nephew and their band brother, and I haven't checked in with him in a bit with Chuck but I'm going to I'm going to poke him and see if they've got anything rolling out. They've been doing a lot of live, a lot of touring and opening and stuff like that but I don't know if they've got new music or not. I know James and Svet should have some new music as well, same-sex Mary. I think they are either right about to go to Japan for their for their Japanese tour or they are already on it. Oh, that's awesome. I know it's coming up right

around now. Yeah. Oh, so cool. I didn't know what you're doing that. I tried to say, do you need anything? Do you need a roadie? Do you need a groupie? Do you need just somebody to taste the sushi before you eat it and make sure it's okay and say for you guys, whatever you need? And force your M&M rules or whatever it is you got on your writers. They said, yeah, we'd love to have you, but we're not paying your way. That was kind of the deal breaker for me. It's like, oh, well, okay. Yeah, forget it. All right. Well, good news is this. We have this,

store, everyone. Wrong one. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage. That's right. My sister is not easy to throw in the garbage. She is Wendy Dunford, a professional therapist and counselor, joins us every week to talk about your problems and how to solve

them. Wendy, welcome back to the program. Thank you. Nice to have you. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys? That sounded really official. It's probably annoying. Your brother who used to chase you around with a hot soldering iron and you're like, hello? Oh, it's welcome to the very professional intro. Hello. Oh, I mean, yeah, that voice intro is super professional.

Yeah, you know me. Professional all the time. Hey, you're about to do a big anniversary thing of my wife is prepping to come and kind of watch the fort while you guys are away. She'll be there on Saturday or something. I'm very excited for, oh yeah, I'm excited for you. The question is how will Carter and I do? And that's a real, that's a, that's a real question. We don't know. Question.

Yeah. Like she was gone. Does she like make you food or stuff? What does she do before you leave? So usually she gets a little worried and she's like, I don't want you guys eating crap. So here's this frozen thing or here's this thing I already prepped and it's already in the thing or, you know, all you got to do is heat this up or she'll do a bunch of that. So I'm sure that's coming. But I also pre-ordered a bunch of these factor meals that I like a lot.

Oh, nice. That's cool. So we'll have a fridge full of those, some vegan vegetative. one's for Carter. I think we're going to be okay. The bigger question is, like, by about day four, it's just you miss her and you're like that her vibe isn't here. I don't like not having her vibe around. Yeah. Right. So I'll call her all the time and just check in and all that. That's what I miss most about Tina is her vibe. Her vibe. Yeah, because she vibes, man. She does vibe. And my kids are so sad to have.

I think that's true. That's true. But your kids will benefit from her vibe and it'll all be I know. I was like, Elliot loves really hot, spicy food. So I'm like, maybe Kim will make you some jambalaya. Yeah. Yeah. Spicy. Spicy jambalaya is in her middle name. Not really. Yes. We'll see what. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I'm, but I'm excited for you guys. Congratulations on a high watermark of marriage there. Thank you. Thank you for sharing her too, because it's, you know, people are like, aren't your kids old enough? And I'm like, probably cannot be left to her own devices. No. But they will love it. I have a few, like, fun things for her to do with Al. I'm just leaving her a credit card, and she's going to take Allie shopping and things that.

I hate doing eight. Yeah. So Kim likes to shop. She's going to be fine. I guarantee you that's true. Can confirm. Kim loves to shop. Hope she can hear me.

Someone else is a credit card. I think she'll have any time. No doubt. Great. Well, anyway, it's good to have you here. We do have a message this week, and it's from someone. we all know. You've met in Vegas a couple of times. Dr. Nicky, one of our favorite people. She's got back from some big neurological conference in New York. And I guess Daily Tech News

shows where she'll be talking about that. But her world... She never smells like sheep's brains. You'd think that she would always smell like sheep's brains and she never does. Yeah, they're always opening one. You'd think the stink would get on you. That's right. I don't know what's going on there. She's really great, though. And she wrote this, Dear Wendy, Scott and Brian, I have a lighthearted question for you all. In one of your last segments, you discussed how important it is for humans to have contact with each other. It was a great segment, but the whole time my brain couldn't stop shouting, What about hermits?

In all caps. It says, I guess hermits are like quicksand, in that people talk about them a lot when I was a kid, and now I don't hear about them anymore, but I still wonder. They're not okay, are they? And people who meditate for years without talking to anyone, people who tend to think they're doing better than the average Joe but maybe they're not doing so hot

what is your professional opinion love the segment and have been following along since before I was in therapy to now medicated for ADHD and thriving and wanting everyone else to be happy and she put a big heart that was very nice hugs from Nikki the goat lady well

boy that really sells her short as a professional PhD holding doctor just the goat lady that's just someone up the street who has goats. That's what we would call them. Right. Right. Yeah, that's the goat lady. Anyway, thank you, Nikki, for this. And Wendy, you know, she says lighthearted question, but I think, I think this is an interesting question. You know, people today almost take a little pride in being, not hermits, but they would say introverted or, or, you know, I'm, I like being

alone. Or my favorite thing about the internet is it lets me be alone, but still interact with the people I want to or whatever. So are, are they okay? Are they not? What's your professional opinion what is the science and data say here's the thing I have never met a hermit because a true hermit wouldn't contact me good point

right I guess yeah they'd be right that's the whole point of being a hermit well let's define a hermit yeah is there a difference between a hermit and a nomad like you know you think of that nomad land movie are those technically roving hermits oh the van life people what they do

notice that they gather right like that's that's not being okay right right no meds together yeah good point a hermit crap right you climb into a shell you don't come out you don't interact i assume that's the origin i didn't look at the origin of the term hermitude yeah but i assume that's uh you know based on it's probably an ancient like monk thing that happened in someone named hermit did it

anyway but i i like the analogy of they are they like quicksand we've talked about him, but are they really real? Right. You know what, Wendy? Real quick, I looked up Hermit on Wikipedia while you were talking, and you're dead on. It says it was coined around the time of St. Jerome, who lived as a hermit near Bethlehem. He only was visited by angels, never talked to any people, he says. He claims. Oh, wow. So that's, it's dead on. Right. So if you think about, like, okay, as a mammal, right? That is what humans are, everybody. You have to have others in some form for survival.

And so it doesn't mean you have to like them, but you do have to have them in terms of food supply or support in some way. As things are available to you without having to actually interact with someone, you can be more hermit-like over time, right? So I think it's a modern invention. I'm assuming that dude somebody brought him food or he had a. access to scrounge some food or however you, because the means of production, you know, you can have your own garden, sure, right? Like there's lots of versions of this. The question is, and this is why I like how she framed it, is like, are they actually

real? And are they? They're not okay, are they? She's worried about them, right? I think what I'm going to extrapolate to the people I know of and know about and just sort of generally the concept of increasing. releasing loneliness and isolation. So when you think of when someone is mentally not doing well,

they'll be like, say you're having thoughts that are really irrational or it's actually making you nervous and you feel like unwell in your brain. A very common response is like if you share that at all, someone's going to react negatively because that's not what we expect another human to say to us. And then there's retreating that happens. Or we share it with no one because we don't dare talk about our alien experience. We back up or we hide and isolate further. What happens, and this happens with my clients who are not hermits, by the way,

just generally they get stuck in their head and whatever is going on in between their own two ears can get pretty ugly or messy or convoluted or untrue or dangerous. And so I assume there's versions of this hermititude that is like retreat, isolate for, I don't fit in, I don't belong, something's wrong with me, I'm broken. And there could be lots of those sort of mental health reasons that would create something like this. Because as a mammal, you should at least want a fellow conversation or human here or there for bonding chemical survival reasons.

I'd like to keep it open. Like someone could maybe not need all of those things. And that's fair. But they probably have to come to downtown to get shoes every once in a lot of time. I feel like when I envision what a hermit is and does, I almost feel like they're kind of the opposite of Dr. Nicky's question, are they okay? I feel like, yeah, they're okay because they've figured out what works for them and they're just doing it. And whether it's for just preference reasons, anxiety being around other people or this is just their preference. it feels like, man, you know, they've obviously figured out what works for them and good, good on them.

Maybe they don't know. Maybe they don't know. How do I put this? If they, it's only weird in comparison to what it is for us that we have established as whatever the norm is, right? So if they're not interacting with the norm and they're doing their own thing, we'll look at the own thing and go, it seems horrible or a heart or whatever. But do we have anything that? It's so definitive in behavioral science or in social science that says you can't do that without it being a hazard to your development, your brain, your health, something. Like there has to have been times in our history, human history, where at the very least, there were smaller bands of people, certainly, you know, villages and, you know, little

groups of people who are surviving and whatever. And we do seem to survive better and iterate better as a whole. but also we get pretty hard at scale. We're difficult in large numbers. And proclivity, right? Like it just doesn't fit well with you to have too many people or for whatever reasons. Yeah, I don't know if anyone's saying like, okay, her actual theory here is that we respond to people who meditate for years and don't talk to anyone. We assume they're doing better.

Like, we assume they're evolved or there's something like that. And she's wondering, like, maybe they're not. and they're actually not okay. But I would assume, so take anyone who is in a silent meditation, takes vows of silence, I mean, there's spiritual reasons for those, there's like whatever they feel called or drawn to do, this has always existed. We may only have the word hermit from so far back, but that's just English. So, you know, whatever has occurred, there's always been this happening.

I think of even just some ancient civilizations where there's. a group set aside or or they find someone living alone in a in a house made of candy you know like whatever there's that's in our lore it's in our like so i think there's a normal normal see to this right it's not everybody it's definitely not the majority because there's not enough room for everyone to have their own little hermits but there are definitely people who've always like let's get off the grid let's go over in this space i want to be alone um and they do better and maybe they have their books or they have whatever it is that really gets them, helps them feel alive. And maybe they don't want to hurt other people.

I think that's a thing I have seen as well, which is just I am better off not trying to connect with people because it's not good. I don't do good. I'm unhappy. They're unhappy. So that may be another motivation, right? But if we answer her specific question of are people who are meditating for years without talking actually not okay?

hard to know because they're not going to talk to you and tell you and they are also engaging in brain work that's active that just an isolated person sort of hiding from everything is not maybe doing they might be going deeper down some you know their brain just works differently and they're you know and they might be fine i don't know but i would assume those who are actively participating in meditative practice and work there is there's a whole other thing going on there it's a hard thing for maybe western cultures to understand. But there's always a westerner here or there who's really drawn to it and participates, right?

Like the French monk who's considered the happiest man on earth, right? Yeah. Was a scientist in France and just turned his whole entire life around and became a monk and spent time deep, deep hours and, you know, dedication to meditation to the point where you can shoot a gun by his ear and he doesn't react. His heart rate will go up, but his brainwaves. don't change. Like, there's something in that for you that the rest of us can't even fathom.

And then you might also be like, people are fine, but I'd rather be quiet in my own head. I'm open to everyone's having a good time and they can do what they want. And yet, so I don't know. But I do know there is a lot of people not doing this right in terms of their mental health, that they're maybe just isolating for various reasons. And that is harming them. I'm not so worried about the ones consciously choosing to silently meditate. Yeah, because some of those people may have some kind of enlightenment,

or at least they've convinced themselves with that, and that's a different motivation than say, I'm anxious in this crowd. I can't be here. Right. Because, I mean, you can have the silence and the not talking with a monk, but they don't have the isolation.

They're constantly around other. Right. And very rarely is a monk living alone. Right. Yeah. You don't see. Right. You should maybe are chatty,

and that's fine. Yeah. They may keep everybody. separate even they may even do meals separately or do whatever they do separately but they're still in a monastery with a set of rules that that manages that you know that they're they're all in their rooms and one of them's job is to walk around and push a little bowl of soup under the table or under the door and I'm making a separate go but I'm sure these places exist I don't know don't you just see Jack Black now in his oh yeah I love that it is what was that called I love it was like I wake up at

530 I forgot the name of that movie be natural Libre. Natural Libre. There you go. Okay, so let me throw something in just my natural bias here. Like I was trying to check my bias before we started. I was like, okay, I have a tendency to just assume because I really like people. I can talk to people eight hours straight a day. That is not normal.

I don't think most people like that. And there's definitely people who do, right? So my bias or my lens is skewed towards more. Uh-oh, can you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you're good. Oh, it shows TMS is calling me on my phone. Oh, your phone, sometimes Discord is weird. Yeah, it's stupid.

I want to double talk to you. I wonder who you should answer it and see what that TMS sounds like. I'll bet it sounds like two Wendy's at the same time as my guess. The other dimension. Anyway, what I was going to say? So my bias, I'm pretty clear on what my bias is, but some of this is from experience and just how I understand humans to work is that um sort of the the well-roundedness or a healthy brain stuff that I see is usually

not someone who's isolated or or it's not someone who doesn't is not getting some a million needs met right so it may be that one or two people can meet those needs for you and you don't need more than that and that's a fair side of of the gamut right and then on the other side maybe someone feels like unless they've got 100 people at all times interacting, you know, they don't feel whole or connected. And so, you know, we're all over the place there. And so what I find interesting is finding out where everyone is coming from. And sometimes they have perceived from social media or other sort of ways that they should want more people in their life. But it is actually just coming from outside of them and what they really need. So I like to help them dig down to like

what actually does work for you? Is it a phone call with a friend across the country once a month? And you are like, I'm good. Well, then don't let anyone tell you you're not good, right? But the investigation is like, are you actually good? Versus someone who's got a million friends, I would ask the same thing. Like, are you actually getting what you need? Is it real?

Is it deep enough? Or are we connecting in ways that round out your life? or benefit your life and really what I'm saying by that is benefit your brain neurochemically because we start to get a little weird without enough of what we need, right? And so isolation.

I mean, think about this sounds so weird and sometimes I say it out loud and I'm like, okay, but when you think about what is used to torture humans, which I do think about sometimes, solitary confinement is one of the worst psychological things you can do to a human.

Sure. So that's where the science, and I think Nikki's sort of maybe referencing here a little bit too, is like, can this actually be good for anyone? Yeah, we see it as such a negative like that. You know, when you screw up in prison, so I've heard they put you in the box. Yeah, you get put in the box. Exactly. Yeah. Just how much damage that does to someone.

Right. And even, even it's always part of, so even when you hear about other methods like whether it's something like waterboarding or the Chinese water torture or any kind of torture, right? physical or mental. One aspect that is always there is when they're done drip and water on your head for 14 hours, usually by yourself, which is a form of isolation. They also then isolate you again. Like you're always being isolated and you're always being left in a room with no toilet, no common conveniences. You're dirty. You've been there for months. You don't know what time it is. And then they bring you out for another water torture or another, you know, pull your fingernails out and put you back in. Whatever horrible thing it is, the isolation is always

part of the package. When I was in the tank, I was in, I was, I had a ruin to myself and, uh, the last time you were in the tank. Yeah. In the tank. 1991, whatever that was. Yeah. Six hours in the tank.

Were you in there by yourself or were there people? Like, what was the deal? No, that was the, the, the whole, like the, before I got fingerprinted and, and, uh, photographed and that sort of thing, I was in a holding cell with like five other people. and then they moved me to my cell, and that was alone with a bunch of religious pamphlets. Oh, nice. They really go for you in there.

Nothing else to read. So I was like, well, I guess I'll sleep. Not even like a highlights magazine where you can do like the hidden pictures. Even, you know, even Sky Mall I would have been happy with. Got the November issue of SkyMall that I could look through. I just need to look at some objects that could have. help me sleep better on a plane. Yeah. Yeah, I think, so that's one, think about, so social isolation or being in the tank or whatever, where you are alone, it has an effect on our brains. I mean,

there's, we can look at the deterioration that will occur and then see it, right? But there's also, sleep deprivation is another powerful torture mechanism. Again, it messes so much with time, space, reality, your sense of groundedness, right, has a similar effect. And those two are used to great effect, right? And so when you think about like, okay, what do you deprive a human of to harm them and then to get them to confess or whatever, or to punish an enemy? Obviously, we love our fingernails. That's why you pull them off and they hurt so bad. There's more nerve endings. You know what I mean? Like you go where that is. So if we think about that happening without maybe intent, it just occurs, isolation.

So that is going to torture a human. It's going to be bad for them. And if you stretch it out over years and years and years, it has maybe a different effect. One thing I think about is that study, we probably haven't talked about this in a long time, of following these kids who were in an orphanage in Romania and how a bunch of them died,

just all these babies and young kids died. And they were looking at, well, they must be murdered by the caregivers and all it was is they were not cared for by the caregivers they were given food water clean clothes change of diapers just not touched so the lack of touch or the lack of mammalian human connection causes death in a young in a young brain just does so that's on that severe end of neglect right um and any neglect in between is psychologically pretty damaging especially when it's the core care givers that should have met those knees and didn't because no one else comes in and meets

them, right? So a choice as an adult where you're like, I'm off the grid, these people suck. That feels very different than some of these other sort of hard things. And I think often people with, you know, ties to religious and faith and sort of callings to be silent or callings to meditate or, you know, you're getting so much brain activity. And, you're getting so much brain activity and health from that, it's not the same as I'm just being left alone. So do we need to worry about our monk friends? Probably not as much as we need to be worried about our friend we haven't heard from in months and hasn't emerged from the darkness, right?

Like those are the ones we're maybe really should be more concerned about. Yeah. To her point about, I know this is not even part of the point other than to help illustrate it, but Quicksand, when we were kids, we were told Quicksand was in every movie. It was in every possible jungle. Everybody was in the kickstand. All over the place on Gilligan's Island. Yeah.

You could not, yeah, you couldn't take 10 steps without finding quicks. Yeah, you were constantly drowning in quicksand if you watched the movie, write a book, whatever. And nowadays, you don't hear about it at all. And I don't think it's, I think it was all a bunch of crap. I don't think it exists. I mean, I maybe someone can convince me otherwise. Maybe there's somewhere, someplace where it's like that, where you could step in it. Yeah, there is something like that where basically the, the same.

sand is so loose but it's not you you it's not quick slow sand really is what yeah but is it like if you struggle you go deeper like all those things and then there's always a vine somewhere to grab and pull your like right right like the great sand dunes here in colorado i think there are areas that um that that that it's like yeah watch out for this part because there's you know it's a little bit looser right here and you're if you start thinking just step quickly out of it yeah quicksand is no compared to cannot compete with quick step you know what I mean no exactly just get the up out all right well that part I don't know why it stuck with me so Nikki thank you for both the real topic and the esoteric fun topic about quicksand love it absolutely we love questions like this

we love the deeper digs if you guys have any questions like that or thoughts or feelings about something that's going on in your life or if you're one of those people that you know need some help you're feeling isolated and don't want to be uh reach out and we'll talk about it on the show see if we can give you some maybe maybe you're thinking about taking up hermitude uh then you know reach out let us know your thoughts yeah and why you're why you're thinking about it hermitude and hermitud i might be considering that in november we're gonna we're gonna see how things go yeah the soon as it snowfalls i get a little hermitudy i feel it right And then there's something, I want to throw one last thing in that's not like that there's value in in this concept, right?

Like maybe permanent hermitude could be dangerous for somebody, but temporary get out of Dodge can be really impactful and powerful. And you know, it's always been the way, right? When Thoreau wrote on Walden's Pond, it was, you know, now that's like in the middle of a suburb or whatever. But at the time, it was the middle of nowhere. And just, you know, moving, yeah, he was only a few miles from his parents' home. But it was like a lone natural world reconnecting and experiencing your own mind. I think that there's value in that. I think it's from that or another, which is that phrase of the world is too much with us.

Yeah. And kind of the referencing there has more to do with the natural world is not, we don't have enough of it. experiencing or touching it enough or being with it enough because there is healing in that, right? So I'm going to give, I mean, I know we got a countdown here before Tuesday, November 5th. Right. I joke with all my clients on the 5th and the 6th.

I'm like, listen, those sessions might be with for me, okay? I'm just warning you. Yeah. We might be doing this together. I'm so booked on November 6th. I just can't do it. But sort of this idea of like how, and I do this with clients who are really weighed down by the world is too much with them is a couple of things.

One is try to get them in nature a little more. And two, being take the issue that you care so about. Like I could say, what can you rant about for 30 minutes without having to look up anything? And everyone's got a topic. Everyone is an expert on something for 30 minutes. Whether they should at all consider themselves sex.

words, they still have enough feelings, enough venom, enough, you know, heat. They can share something for 30 minutes, right? So I have them identify a couple of those topics. And then we get to something very, very practical that they can do in relationship to that thing. Now, the best version is they stop ingesting everything thrown at them around anything. They just, they go nature slash active in something they care about. That's hard to get people to do. But if I can get them more in nature and away from their devices and I can get them to be boots on the ground with something that matters to them, it's astounding the way the brain will reward you for that.

Like, oh, okay, I'm still human. Everything's not hopeless. So, for example, I have a client who works, is a therapist actually works with all sorts of people who are bureaucrats for the federal government, you know, in D.C. And these are folks who have kept these jobs, care about balancing the budget. It doesn't matter which president is in. None of that matters. They are literally what runs this country, right? And he has them just coming in in tears. Everyone's so afraid they're going to lose their jobs.

They feel like the stuff they, you know, they care about. They went in, you know, public service for a reason is like, you know, it's just hard. Everyone's struggling. So one of the things we devised was that, you know, to go somewhere and do something that mattered. And what he came up with was he went and canvassed in Pennsylvania. Like, you spend a Saturday, you have a sing, right?

If that's where, put your money where your mouth is in that particular way. I think everyone thinks they care about politics. But the truth is most of us actually care about other things. And politics is just oozed over all of it. And so maybe, you know, like Adam is a judge, what do you call it? Like an election judge. That's how he does that for him. For me, I'm going to go help him.

a neighbor who has cancer. I don't actually want to talk politics with anyone. So that isn't what I, that's not the value. So find what your value is and do something legitimate around that. So maybe it is just a simple day of volunteering or it's, you know, showing up for somebody. But just get away from the doom of it. Because guess what, at this point, unless you're going to go canvas in one of the swing states and talk to the five remaining undecided voters. You don't have a lot you can do. Yes, you can donate money, blah, blah, blah. But the donating the money, like, whatever.

I want something real and or get nature. Those are the two things. That's my advice for everyone for the next two weeks. I'm just going to be on vacation. So I, that's what I'm going to. I'm going to have a hand on my left. I'm going to lift that day because I think there is some sort of like they need extra lifters for the lift does discounted rides for people who are going to

to put on location. Yeah, I like that a lot. But I am going to get a gauge as far as who they're voting for and decide where I'm going to take them if I'm actually going to take them to a polling location or just ask a few questions. That's right. Yeah. Why does the map say we should be we should be turning here? Oh, no, no, there's a shortcut. No, trust me, this this downtown sketchy looking Taco Bell definitely has a polling place.

That's right. No, see all these trees now just keep walking that way and you'll find the polling place. It's really far away. There's not a parking spot near it, but just keep going. Yeah, I, I, this is really, I'm getting aside. It's a really great idea. It's a really good idea. Kim's going to, we have a lady or a dude in our ward who has Alzheimer's.

We have another guy who has cancer and then a lady who's also got some late stage cancer. She's in her age. She can't even drive. So our goal is to like go around to these people and say, I don't care who you're voting for her. Let's just get in the car. We'll take you there. We'll bring you back. Like that kind of stuff.

It's, that is a weird. That is a, not weird. It's a catharsis. meaningful catharsis not just one that you just sort of say well i said something online now i feel better it's actually you can get some real catharsis out of it meaningful stuff so regardless of who who cares like take the old if the old guys are i never vote anything but republican fine take them take them to the thing yeah exactly it's you know it's it's a it's a democracy it has to work both ways it does and you know who everybody loses when only one party works you can't wait it's not

You have to have both. Do you guys, maybe don't know this. This feels like a thing only moms talk about. But Sharon says so is a history teacher and she sort of started the pandemic. She's a Minnesota school teacher. And she started just doing history lessons and like really diving into stuff. It's great. People love her. She totally has the accent. Anyway, just recently she posted something about like just the health of both parties. And like that should be our goal. The goal should not be. It should, because that's not how government doesn't work with one party. It's called a dictatorship when that happens. Like it's just, I mean, no other country in the world functionally with a democracy has a two-party system. We're barely doing it because we really need more coalitions. We need more compromise. You know, this is literally how it gets done.

The thing I've always found funny, can I just rant about CIS 30 most of me in this, is that in England in let's see probably Australia I think they do it I'm trying to remember all these different sort of you know

the ones you can hear these English speaking countries in their debates they're so mean to each other like on the floor they're all just like boo and like you know

it gets all rowdy and crazy and I've always thought that is so weird and like come on have some decorum then you realize like oh maybe we ought to be doing that

maybe we ought to just be getting it out in like a in a setting where it's meant to be that way. It's just funny how that wasn't managed in like a politeness way. And I feel like we're like, I don't know, the vitriol has like seeped into the soil

even though really what we need to see him is wrestling. Like do you just have the two candidates wrestle? Yeah. Oh, I like that. Like that idea. That'd be okay. I know I know who my money'd be on. I won't say who,

but I know who I think would win that wrestling match right now. And it ain't, let's just say it isn't the one with the, with the orange paint on his collar, all right? Well, anyway. They just have to pull Meli Gibson and run around and let the big one tire out. Yeah. Good idea.

Okay, so I have a favor. Like, all right. So after the election is over. So I'll be back that next week. No, Halloween. Are we having a show Halloween? I think so. Yes.

Yeah. I'm planning on it. Sure. We'll tell a scary stories. Halloween. Okay. And then it's the election. And whatever that next Thursday is, I would love.

Okay, let's say Donald Trump wins. Okay, let's just, we might have to talk to dogs on with. That is a horror story. This is good for Halloween. All right, keep going. Yeah. But it would be interesting to analyze a couple things. I currently can't speak about him.

It's just not a thing I'm willing to do. But I have some thoughts, some things that have happened. Anyway, so I would love to, you know, if people, it depends on where we're at, right? But there is some interesting things. that we could talk about um and one is a book i'd love everyone to read that's from the 90s that's just like an interesting thing about um men generally and and so there's this whole sort of concept of like whenever we talk about men not doing well um and struggling there's a bit of like well they've been in charge for so long and as soon as they're behind we're now going to you know rally

all the forces to make sure they're okay or in sales developed because you know the men have know where to go and they feel like they're owed whatever. And so you have all these interesting dynamics going on there that I would love for us to tackle, but I can't do it until I know who the present is. Yeah. No, let's do it. Yeah, no, 100% it does. It will make it. It will frame the context of where we are. Yeah. Yeah. It might. Oof. Yeah. Well, let's do it. Congratulations on the big long marriage. You're along with Brian and I, you're pushing the statistics in our favor as as dedicated single marriage human beings. Nothing wrong with everybody else and whatever you got going on.

But, you know, we are trying to hold up our flag over here. All right. We're doing what we can. So that's great. And have a great time. And I'm sure everything I'll go good with Kim there. And we'll look forward to talking to you. Thank you for sharing her.

I know that is a sacrifice. And if Carter ends up in a dog cage eating cooking chocolate, we'll know. Nobody here is worried about Carter. Yeah, she'll be fine. You know what? She'll do great. Carter's fine. Okay.

Yeah, zero people here worried about Carter. All right. She is. If a Scott ends up in the dog kennel eating cooking chocolate. That might be where it is, yeah. Yeah, I have a great, if I can find it for the chat. I'll try to, but we have this photo that she's making this reference to of Carter in a dog kennel as a kid eating cooking chocolate like a little fiend, little goblin. You know I took that picture, right?

Yeah, that was you, right? I think it was you. Because I came to check on you knowing Kim was gone and the fish was dead and the house smelled terrible. and Carter was in a dog cage eating cooking chocolate. It's amazing. And I remember the time you were, the thing that impressed you the most is that when Kim found out, she wasn't mad. She was like, quickly, let's get as many pictures as you can. This is great.

I wish I would have been here to see it. You know what I mean? Like she wasn't weird about it, which I feel like there was a lesson in there. Don't freak out when your kids do weird stuff. There is. And you're fine. But you have factor meals. So we can all rest easy.

Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Wendy, have a fantastic trip. And we'll see you next time by now. Okay. Tell Adam to be a good judge on Election Day. All right. Did you kill whatever that was?

What do you got in there? No, I missed it. Whatever it was, like a little net. Little fruit fly, a little net. It's October. Yeah. Oh, fruit fly. Fruit fly, nat, something.

I hate fruit flies. Got too close to my microphone too. Sorry about that, folks. No, it's all right. This is all right. We need to see the violent names. nature of these flies. Hey, I heard, somebody told me once that, because there's a question about where are these fruit flies coming from and it's only around fruit. Well, it's because

eggs are from Mexico. Eggs are letting them in on the borders. But I assume the eggs are like on the fruit already. Is that the deal? How else would we get in them? Yeah. Because they have to sometimes you get bananas and they've already got tarantial eggs on them. Shit. Is that true? I didn't know that it's it happened like it probably happened once it became like the like oh you got you got to check those banana uh stocks because sometimes they've got tarantial eggs on them but i have seen strawberries with little uh spidery things in them i've seen that oh well yeah when you put this when you put them in water and the was it water or was it salt water or something then you get the little the little um the worms that come out the little weevils yeah yeah just so you all know

we eat bugs every day without knowing it We eat bugs. We eat fly parts on our ketchup. It's totally fine. Yep. Sorry, vegans. You're eating them all day. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No way around it. All right. Well, that'll do it for us. My tuna contains dolphin. It's fine. It's fine. Squeak, squeak. I don't squeak, do they? I don't know what I mean that's on.

Can't do a dolphin noise. I just can't do it. Don't forget. Today, Mountain Time, noon, you're going to watch Coverville over at Twitch.tv. Yeah. Katie Perry. So I kissed a girl. Roar. Dark Horse, E.T., last Friday night, waking up in Vegas, what else? Oh, and she does a really good cover. I'm not going to play her Hackensack cover, although I think it's really, really good. I've just played it on the show so much that I can't do it. But I do have a cover that I've not played.

Katie Perry covering the Beatles that I've never played on the show. Oh, fantastic. She's really good. She's just got a great voice. She just knows where the camera is at all times. and she's kind of got that incessant showchild aspect to her that I don't think I like very much, but... I don't like her new song at all.

I will say that for the record. I don't know if I've heard of the new song. You should check it out. It's kind of bad. I will check it out. Yeah, let me know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong day or something,

but I really disliked it. Also, today, 5 p.m. Core will be on. We've got a lot to talk about. So tune in for Core 5 p.m. mountain time right here at frogpants. Also, there is a TMS Friday. That's right. Our return to essentially what a PM was, but we're doing it in the AM.

We're calling it TMS Friday. And they start tomorrow for patrons on our live Discord. If you're not a patron yet, pop in. And I'm going to tease. Oops, sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm going to tease the fact that we are going to, each of us is going to come up with our

dream team seven Saturday Night Live cast members from any season, any era of the show. And compare lists. So that's one of the things we're planning on doing on tomorrow's show because of the movie Saturday night, which I saw last night, and I'll be, I'll be reviewing it tomorrow on the show as well. And hopefully Scott will get a chance to see it as well. Yeah, I really want to see that. I think I'm, I didn't know. It was Ivan, not Ivan, Jason Reitman doing that, which makes sense. The family's been so tied in with those guys for so long.

It totally does. But boy, there are times it feels like an Aaron Sorkin situation. And there's so much, so much walking and talking. Yeah, it's, it's a lot of long, uh, dolly shots that, that you don't think of as being single take or single, what do they call that, um, not single take, but a single one shot shot. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but, but I think a lot more of them were than I realized.

And, um, and there's also one, there's a very interesting thing that I, if we weren't in, And if we were watching it at home, I would have told Tina right away, but because we're in the theater, I didn't say anything until right before the credits. And then the credits revealed something. And I'm like, I knew it. Now I need to know. Yeah, that I could. That won't really be a spoiler. So I'll talk about that on the show tomorrow, too.

Did you yell, I knew it in the theater? Did you? I did not. But I told Tina, I said, before the credits rolled and we got the answer to my, my, what I believed. I said, I really think that this and this. for this. And she said, oh, and then he came up in the credits. I'm like, aha.

Yep, got him. Nailed it. Nice job. He got them. Anyway, that's tomorrow. 9 a.m. normal time for TMS. It'll just be on the Discord. And if you're a patron, you'll automatically have the right role to join us in that live stream. If not, you won't even be able to see the room. It's not even there for you.

A film sack on this weekend, on Sunday. We're going to be watching the 1979 Salem's Lot mini-series three-hour tour. Yeah, we're locked in, I guess. Yeah. I'm a little nervous about it, but whatever. I am too.

Just because Sacktober goes on, whether we like it or not, that's what's happening. Play Retro is happening on Sunday after Film Sack. The reason for that is because Dunaway has a birthday thing he has to do tomorrow, so we will not be doing Play Retro on Friday. It will be Sunday this week. It's all up on the schedule. Check it out at Frogpants.com slash schedule. And for everything else for this show, frogpants.com slash TMS.

That's going to do it for us. Brian, why don't you play us out with some kind of song? I will, and here's a person that sadly doesn't get to listen live anymore, but my gosh, we always think about her and talk about her, and she used to be a fixture in the live chat in the early days. Before Tank Girl, Rodin. Love her. Yeah, Trisha Tevna, Rodin said, dearest Motha, I mean Satan and Beelzebub, it's my birthday. I would like to request Irish Rover by a dropkick Murphy's, feeling like dancing a wee jig to celebrate, being old enough to call. qualify for a senior discount at random restaurants.

Much love to you guys and all the guest hosts on TMS. Thanks for making life a little brighter. Tadpool for Life before Tink Girl. Nice. Good to have her out there still. Totally is. Yeah, got that. It's from a 2011 album called Going Out in Style. It's the Dropkick Murphy's covering a traditional Irish song.

There's so many different reports of how old this song is and when it came out. But it's about a very improbable ship that are, all these crew are on called the Irish Rover has 23 masts Scott 23 massed that is so many masks yeah it's a lot of masks yeah it's a lot that's even much more guns than the the Green Day song 20

wait what's their thing 21 guns yeah that's not it's more than that it's impressive it's right uh the Irish rover right here by drop kick Murphys On the 4th of July 8,906 weeks had sail from the sweet cove cork

We were sailing away with a car Or bricks for the Grand City Hall in New York But a wonderful crush She was rigged for naught And know how the wild wind drove She stood several blocks She had 27 nights We had one million bags of the best flying away

We had 2 million barrels of stone We had 3 million signs of blood horses nigh We had 4 million barrels of bone They had 5 million hogs 6 million dollars 7 million barrels are poured We had 8 million bails How old lady gold scale

And the whole of the Irish rover There was old Mickey Koot who played hard on his flute when the ladies lined up for a sit He was cutin' with scalp and he'd spotting could drill Though the dancers are buttered a bat With his smile, when he talked, he was cock of the walk He rolled the dames under and over the hell through the glass When he took up his stints and he sailed on the Irish rover

There was Bonnie McGee from the banks of the league. There was Hogan from County Tyrone. There was Johnny McGirk who was scared stuff for work and your man from what's me called the loan. There was sluggled old tool and was drunk as a rule. Inviting Bill's place from Dover A new man Macbacan from the banks of the back Was the skipper of the Irish Rover And the shipwomen

And the ship lost its way in the fog. And the whale of a crew was reduced down to two. Just myself and the captain's old dog. And the ship struck a rock, oh Lord, what a shock. The bull kid was turned right over. Turn nine times around. And the poor old dog was drowned. Oh!

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