The Morning Stream - TMS 2734: B Tier Vices

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

Bad tasting font. A horizontal guy. Native dromedary. Tar pit buttered popcorn. Working Tingles. insufficient Vices. Is a car a puppet? Cuz I'd like really wanted to know. The shuttlecock of the Confe...deracy. The TALIA Bot. Underaged 50 something. Bactrian Bacteria. Spicy Zelda Takes. Frisbee Pies. Everybody Chaka Kong. Rhesus pieces with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People are putting up their trees already. What better time than now to celebrate by signing up to the TMS Patreon at patreon. At patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, bad tasting font. A horizontal guy. Native dromedary. Tar pit buttered popcorn. Working tingles.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Insufficient vices. Is a car a puppet because I like really wanted to know? The shuttle cock of the Confederacy. The Talia bot. Underaged 50-something. Bacterin bacteria. Spicy Zelda takes. Frisbee pies.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Everybody, Chaka Khan. It's a little short ones today. Rhesus PCs with Bobby and more on this episode of the morning stream. Ouch. Stubbed your toe in the middle of the night. Stumbling around in the dark is dangerous. Don't turn on the light and wake up the whole family. Now there's Bright Thief.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Actual odds of winning one in the 380 million. The morning stream. The tingling means it's working. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, November 11th, 2024. Scott Johnson here. Brian, a bit there. Hi, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Yeah, all of this is true. A new week. A new, a new, a new Monday. Yeah. A new non-Monday. Simon LeBahn once sang. That's right. He did sing that.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And you know what? We should remember that today. And go forth. Not go back. Let's go forth today on our Monday. All right. Fourth. And happy Veterans Day to those of those of you who served.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I first thought, I know Jason Inman, redshirt diaries served and was even somehow going to be on the sidelines, some sort of involvement with the potential Armor Wars movie franchise that MCU was working on screenplay? I didn't know that. That's awesome. Holy crap. Well, it was awesome until that fell through. Yeah, Hollywood's... So hopefully I'm able to talk about it now. I wonder if the NDA is lifted on that business. Hollywood's a brutal mistress, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:18 They take your stuff and they leave your stuff. There's nothing you can do about it. That's absolutely true. But for all the veterans listening, thank you for the sacrifices you made for this country. And we appreciate you. And we think of you on this day. What are we going to do? And we offer you a free Red Robin Burger.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, yeah, that's what I was going to say. We got to come up with what's their deal. You know, got to get a deal. They get so many deals. I get so many emails because I'm on, you know, on my birthday, free this and that. It comes with every holiday emails from all those places saying, here's what you get. If you wear a costume into Chipotle, how about a free burrito? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So I, you know, you get about a thousand things. If you're a veteran, free this. On Veterans Day. Does the T-Life app tell you what Tuesday's going to be ahead of Tuesday? No, you don't find out until Tuesday. Okay. I've been... It's scary.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But the one I'm bummed that I missed, by the way, was two weeks ago. There was a free crumble cookie. Yeah. And I'm a little bummed, but I'm also probably... But Coach Regina is probably very happy that I missed out on getting my free crumble cookie. Oh, man. Utah's own crumble. They started here, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, they did. We're weird. We got the cookies and the soda places and all this shit. and now everyone else is starting to get it. And I feel bad because it's kind of dumb. It's because we don't have enough vices here. It's good. The crumble cookies are good.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Don't get me wrong. The soda places are great. But it's all like a collective way of us having vices without having the normal vices here. So it's like, I'll drink a ton of soda because I don't drink. Right. It's like all of the B-level vices. vices. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 No drugs and alcohol per se, but, but boy, oh boy, can you sugar up. Yeah. Yeah. B tier vices. That's what we've got here in Utah. Yeah. Also, I noticed this yesterday, the, I thought that liquor stores, so ours, the way our laws work is it's a state run liquor store and they're, they're all over the place,
Starting point is 00:04:18 but they all close on Sunday. Is that normal for everywhere else or is that just here? We're closed? That used to be the case here in Colorado. No liquor on Sunday. All the liquor stores closed, but that changed maybe about 10, 12 years ago. So now every day of the week you can go and get booze. It even used to be that for a while you couldn't get anything over 3-2 on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So kind of their mid, their halfway point was, all right, we'll let you get beer because we know there's a lot of football games. So how about some 3-2? And then that didn't last very long. That's what made me think of it was football season because I'm thinking there's a lot of people who drink on, you know, during the games. It's Sunday games. Yeah. How are they going to go to these, you know, and there's this brand new, really nice, like, multi-leveled, nice liquor store near us. We're not going there, but I'm driving by going closed on a Sunday when there's football.
Starting point is 00:05:14 What are we doing here? What are we doing? Yeah. You have to go to a soda place and get some cookies. Anyway. Right, exactly. Go load up. Go get a sugar high.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That's right. This is really what you're going for. Now, I want to share a story that I've already told Brian about briefly. I haven't given him the full skinny on this, but it's the stupidest freaking thing. I've got some of it, but geez Louise. It's so stupid. All right. So I don't even know how to start with this.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'll just tell you the quick version of this. The other day, I don't know where my screen cap went. I have the actual screen somewhere. I don't know what I did with it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I can describe it. I go to Twitter to lock my account. and when I went in there to do it,
Starting point is 00:05:58 because up to now it just sort of sits there and, you know, whatever. But if you lock it, then only your followers see it and you don't have to get rid of it and nobody can take it and use it for their own devices, at least in theory, for all I know, they could do whatever they want. Sure, sure. Until Elon flips that button.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, he could easily go take one and not have zero issues taking it. So I went in there, not that he'd need mine, but, you know, it's a decent one for a lot of Scott Johnson's. It's literally Scott Johnson. It's hard to get. So, you know, I understand why it might be valuable. So I go in there to lock it. That's all I was going there for.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I'm on the web. I go on the browser. I type X.com. It brings it up and I get a big giant white screen, which is unusual because normally I'm in dark mode on there. And it says, you can't. I think I still have the photo. Do you have it?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, you know what? I probably have it in our text list. Why am I thinking? In our text, yeah. Let me pull that up because this is worth, oh, yeah, there it is. Okay, I'll pull this up. All right. So check this out, you guys.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Whoops. Right above the freeze dried chicken. All right, there it is right here. It says, your account is locked. Our terms of service require everyone he uses X to be 13 years or older. And we have determined that you did not meet the minimum age requirement at the time this account was created. For further details to understand what is possible to restore your access to your account, please visit this form. So we have determined based on looking at your most recent.
Starting point is 00:07:24 tweets about poop jokes and farts and I don't know how they did that like still to this moment this I don't understand this at all I mean I've been on the account I've actually had the account for longer than 13 years yeah I got it the year Twitter started and to say that I'm under 13 or was then I mean was that making me mix age I guess or something I'd love to be 24 again let's go let's do it gosh yeah anyway so I get this thing and I go all right well that's really really weird, but I guess I'll follow through on this so I can do this myself. I don't want them just shutting it down because of this age thing. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. And so I reinstate it just to shut it down. Yeah. Basically, that was it. So I got on the form. The form let
Starting point is 00:08:10 you submit some stuff. Funny enough, it's like all mixed up. You know how they're supposedly they were placed all references to Twitter. But that's not true. Like in that form, it says your Twitter account is very important. They're still called tweets, aren't they? Like, maybe but I mean they just all they got to do is go I don't think anyone's working there which will which will help explain which will help I'll help illustrate that I don't think anyone's working there by the responses I got so this this form says here's how you have to prove who you are we need a form of state issued ID this is something I had to do before for some other Twitter thing years ago but it wasn't my account verification anyway so I'm thinking I hate doing that but all right fine it's my driver's license it's public info whatever so I go, I take a picture. Perfectly framed. iPhone 16 Pro Max, perfectly photographed, sharp. No glare, no reflection anywhere. None, Brian. Perfect. I left borders. I don't exactly because it happened to you. Borders so that they, you know, doesn't look doctored, shows it on a table. Couldn't have been a better photo, except I look like shit in it,
Starting point is 00:09:16 but whatever, that's just, that's the DMV problem. So I do all that, and I send this photo into this form. And I get a response back. And the response says, we cannot determine from this that you are this is real it looks doctored and just so you know sending us doctored documents means you will immediately lose your and like they're getting all like aggressive about it reply also said thank you for your vote for Donald Trump comrade we'll make a medicate great again it did have this it did have like a weird I don't know it had a weird vibe to it and they were also really angry in it and I said really this is the photo that I sent
Starting point is 00:09:54 So it says, please reply with attitude. It says please reply with more copies, you know, clearly designated photos showing the full border like I did. They're saying all this stuff again, like I didn't do it. So I did that original photo plus a new one just to be safe. And then a video of me holding my license and saying, this is my license. Check it out. Here's the back even. As you can tell, I haven't doctored this at all.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And also from my voice, you can tell I'm not 12. Right? I said all that in the thing, not with yelling, but with text. Yeah, of course. And then with that video, and I sent it to them. I'm thinking, please let this be done. I just want to be done with this. And I get a response back that is nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It's just a blank email signed X support team. And I went, are they supposed to, did they mean to say something? Didn't? Is this automated? Like, what is this? So I replied. It says to reply, to reply to reply to this. email. It doesn't say you can't reply. It says to reply to it if you have questions. So I
Starting point is 00:10:57 replied and I said, and I took a screenshot, said, hey, your email came in like this without any text. I just want to make sure I didn't miss something you sent. I get a reply. Blank, nothing. I do this process and I say, yeah, it didn't work again. Here's, and I checked and I went on my PC, did it with Chrome, Firefox, did it on my phone, two different email apps, all this stuff just to be sure it wasn't me i'm willing you know i'm not i know how tech work sometimes it's you yeah yeah so i do all this shit brian and i get another reply blank and then i started to realize every time i go back to them saying yeah you're still sending me blank replies i would get a blank reply so something's broken over there oh so many things that seems like yeah yeah this is just
Starting point is 00:11:44 one but they are just like not understanding what i'm saying and i'm not seeing anything back from them. So I'm like, well, all right, I've resigned myself to this now. I'm thinking they will either go through with the thread of the email saying they'll just shut it down because they think I'm 12 and I'm giving them fake ID. Oh, well, that's fine. I can move on with my life after this. Or they'll come back finally and say you're good. Well, they ended up coming back and saying I was good, but it took them an extra day. And when I replied, thank you for your help, I got a reply back Blank again
Starting point is 00:12:18 Of course Of course It's a really Really great process They got going over there So my old Everything's being run On cat hair and bamboo
Starting point is 00:12:27 I believe it I believe it's true I don't think anyone Really gives a shit About this end of it over there And that place is a mess So That's it
Starting point is 00:12:36 We're done I know I know a while ago You had decided To kind of just leave Twitter Yeah I tried to delete it I tried to
Starting point is 00:12:44 and it wouldn't let me. It only let me delete. It ended up deleting like a year of stuff and then aired out. So even that didn't work. And also their download, where you go to download your archive, which I wanted to do just so I have all my info and they don't just get to have it or whatever. That was about two gigs worth of, you know, however many years this has been going on. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Sure of content. That took four different download attempts, about a week to wait for it to even be available to me. and even then it was parsed all wrong also branded Twitter not branded of course like I really honestly Brian I you know it's easy for us on the outside of this weird takeover of that platform
Starting point is 00:13:26 and all the stuff that's happened since it's easy from us in the outside to go oh yeah that place being around like shit they fired everybody it's easy to just make surface level comments but having had this interaction like this when you actually see when you actually get stuff from the quote unquote inner workings of the place
Starting point is 00:13:41 it's hard not to think that it's More than, it's more than just skin deep, the shit show. It's broken. Like it's, it is absolutely busted. There's not, uh, I'll, okay. So my final impression is, he bought it on a whim and as an ego trip. And then, you know, say what you want about its use case now, which I would argue is pretty nefarious. But all of that is chiefly what matters over there.
Starting point is 00:14:11 There's no plan. for like grow it and turn it into the app for everyone that's not it at all that's not what they're doing no it's just it's just horse shit it's just all horse shit exactly i mean yeah it's uh i was looking back to see my last tweet that wasn't just a copy and paste from my thread saying hey doing a show coverville starting in 10 minutes blah blah blah um the last one of those was august first of the hey doing a coverville in 10 minutes come join me the one before that the last actual tweet uh looks like june 5th last time i tweeted something good man and that was even got and even scrolling back there's it's like a uh um it's a while before you get to something else
Starting point is 00:14:58 that's of any relevance i've stopped i really have just stopped on x and and uh if if people are like oh i follow brian on x and i don't know why he hasn't tweet anything eh come over to another any other uh anywhere else that's where i do most of my stuff yeah go to threads go to blue sky go to something else or don't or or whatever it's all horseshit anyway turns out it's all horseshit everything's horse shit yeah it seems like it was you know the the the um the buying of uh x and all that stuff was long before there was his very visible push uh behind the trump campaign but now it's hard for me not to think was the plan to like run x into the ground with the hopes that everybody else
Starting point is 00:15:43 on X would hop over to truth social? I don't know. I mean, it's hard. The two things happened so far apart. I don't think he's smart enough to have planned that far ahead. I mean, it was only, I agree, but it was only, I mean, it was only a year. So it wasn't that much. But I mean, you bought it in 2020.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I guess it was 2022 when he came in there, right? Yeah, it was a couple of years. Yeah. Something like that. And who knows? Freaking F at all. I don't give a shit. Here's these two fingers right here that I have in the middle of my hands.
Starting point is 00:16:12 These are the two You can make an X with those Yeah, look at this, look at that You can overlay him You know what that's cooler then Is jumping up on a stage To make an X with my fat Freaking 50 year old body
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah So F that Sorry, sorry And R I didn't mean to freak you out The cat didn't like that Yeah All right, well let's get moving on here I got a thing from Hender Tucky
Starting point is 00:16:35 Robert from Hender Tucky Oh cool Yeah we love him He's great He has this to say He says on that camel thing. We were talking about the camel lady or the neighbor saying. Yeah. The thing
Starting point is 00:16:46 you overheard about camels and not existing and all that. Yeah. What I heard is camels don't or no, the original thing was camels don't exist deer. Deer. Oh no. Here is what I thought it said. But we think maybe it was deer.
Starting point is 00:17:02 No, it was the other way around. Oh. You thought they said camels don't exist deer and then the tadpole said, oh, maybe they meant here as in camels don't exist here. Oh, okay. Yeah, I couldn't remember which flip, which way it flipped. Anyway, yeah, because I was so convinced by the Tadpool argument, I kind of settled on that and figured that was it.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But anyway, he says, it makes a whole lot of sense. I agree. So, Deer spit and Bactrin. Bactrian. Bactrian. On films, or sorry, on Friday's show, you mentioned while he's dropping, your weird neighbor saying camels don't exist here. And you figured it was camels don't exist here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So there you go. Interesting. So he's saying it the way. I was thinking of it. I heard... But it's still... I heard him say, dear. Right, go back to your Friday show notes if you need.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Camels don't exist, dear, comma, unable to interpret it. And then the tadpole said, he might have been saying camels don't exist here. Yeah, I think that's what I thought I was thinking. I must have said the opposite. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Interesting fact, camels were originally native to North America. They evolved about 45 million years ago. They were likely crossed, or sorry, they most likely crossed the land bridge to Asia and eventually
Starting point is 00:18:11 went extinct in America about 10,000 years ago. That's wild. Yeah, he says the next time your neighbors are discussing the origins of native dromedary, sorry, you can set them straight. He says, P.S. Endless Desert Roads, one hump says beneath the sun, still the journey goes, says Robert.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, I didn't know that. That's news to me. I had no idea that they were... Yeah, that's really good. They were native to hear. That's amazing. Yeah. Can you imagine how different life would be if we just had camels all the place that weren't in zoos? Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'd be down with that. Would we be riding them like we see people riding horses? I hope so, like all the parades and stuff that I don't go to? I could be on those. Camels, yeah. Yeah, why not? I would, and you could have, and you'd have your, you know, like your rich friends would have a little pasture in their own horse or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:01 They would have their own camel. They would have their own camel? With the company camel back that makes those great traveling water storage devices, would they call them horseback? because, you know, camels are so run-of-the-mill here in America. What a boring name. Let's be horseback. Yeah, it would have to be something like that because if it's so common,
Starting point is 00:19:19 they wouldn't just name it after a common thing, right? Right. I agree with you. I agree with that. Katie and Philly wrote in says, oh, boy, listening to yesterday's TMS discussion on what makes a puppet, and y'all are breaking my brain. Does this mean a car as a puppet? What?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh, shit. Think of it, Brian. you control it is it a is it a puppet bringing it to life what was it uh amy i know i know i know i might have the i have the clapping right but i'm not sure about the words yeah making it live making bringing it to life bringing it to life i think so i can't remember bringing in the sheaves that's it anything you can pick up and bring to life so cars so you could put a couple of googly eyes on the front like the movie cars sure drive it around and be a little erratic and suddenly you're you know you're lightning
Starting point is 00:20:13 mcqueen out there being a puppet yeah all right yeah i don't see any dissent from amy yet so unless amy argues against car let us know amy what you think of that it's really funny christine yeah christine's the ultimate puppet christine is the ultimate puppet although well christine no christine becomes a umaton because it's its own uh sentient thing oh right nobody well yeah Possession is different than an actual other person. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That's good point. So it's the devil's puppet, Christine. Right. Whereas, like, Chucky seems like a puppet, but is not one because a devil's in Chucky. Even though the filmmakers are using puppetry to move Chucky, our presentation is that Chucky is possessed, which means, ergo, he is not a puppet. He's a possessed beast. Right, right, right. Brian, tell me about here.
Starting point is 00:21:04 What is here? Anything the devil can pick up and bring to life. So, yeah, I saw the movie here at the theater on Saturday night. And what's it currently sitting at 30-something Rotten Tomatoes? Not doing great. Not doing great, which really surprises me because I actually enjoyed it. I didn't enjoy it. Like, it's no, I wouldn't put it up in the, like, Forrest Gump level, you know, quality-wise.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But for what it is, I don't know. So, you know, it relies heavily on a gimmick. And that gimmick almost kind of takes too much attention away from the acting and the characters and that sort of thing. But it is a fixed position camera, always in the same place. And you see everything from the dinosaurs and the Ice Age to colonial times and then building roads. and indigenous people living there to the several families that have lived in the house that sits on this place.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And the largest member, largest family that they focus on is one that's got Tom Hanks and Robin Wright from Forrest Gump, Jenny and Forrest. Oh, right, yeah. Well, you know what? That's funny because up to this point, I hadn't remembered that until you just said it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I knew it was Robin Wright. I knew that. But I never once went. Oh, finally, Forrest and Jenny are back together. A reunited. Yeah, exactly. And believe me, that was a big, that was a big component of the chatting going on with the crazy neighbors next to me. Yeah, it looks like, so it's, here's, it's got a 37% tomato meter, but a 58% popcorn meter.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So the audience score. Audience liked it a lot more than critics. I'm kind of in the in the 58% range it was I did not feel like the the morph and the AI faces and the uncanny Valley was distracting it all as a matter of fact I were looking I was looking for seams I was looking for his mouth isn't quite moving correctly here or his he turned his face and his eyes stayed in the same place for a second or something is it they used AI for the face stuff I thought that was all just don't know what the, like the Robert Downey, Robert Downey Jr. stuff they use. The youngifying, yeah. I mean, I, I, I, I lump it all into any, anything that's done with computers to, uh, uh, supplant, you know, taking old bachelor party and bosom buddies era video and making it fit in here. I'm saying, all right, well, they use them AI to use that, to do that sort of thing. They, who knows? I mean, anything, like you said, I mean, I'm describing the whole special effects thing is, as, as, uh, as that. But, um, um,
Starting point is 00:24:04 Um, yeah, I was looking for seams. I didn't find them. They were, it was all really good. The, the, the, some of the tricks that they used to show other parts of the outside when you're inside the house or even what's behind you, I thought was really cool. Um, uh, it, it bounces around more than I was expecting. I was expecting it to go dinosaur ice age, indigenous people, colonial, uh, 1950s. blah, blah, blah, into the present.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But they really do a lot of bouncing around. And they do in a way that is very story-driven as far as like, oh, here's something that happened to several different people who've all been in this space, who've all lived here. Gotcha. Yeah, it's funny, Matuba says, so it's like a stage play. Very much feels like it could be done as a stage play, especially with some really creative screening behind the window
Starting point is 00:25:02 that changes time periods. and things like that. I guess this thing is based on a comic book or like a graphic novel is the origin of it. Okay, that's interesting. Never read it, but it seems interesting, right? Like, you might want to check that out and see if that's any good. Yeah, for sure. But I felt like this thing had a lot more emotion and a lot more heart than I was expecting.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I was expecting it to be 80% gimmick and 20% acting and characters and things like that. but maybe me going in with low expectations helped it a lot, but I actually really enjoyed it. Tina and Crazy Neighbors enjoyed it as well. Nice. I mean, it's, I was immediately interested in the concept, but these reviews started rolling in. And even, you know, audience score of 58, it's pretty low.
Starting point is 00:25:56 But it also just doesn't feel like a theater movie. It feels like a more, I don't know what to explain, how to say this. It's just not, you're bulls. It's not a blockbuster gimmick. It's definitely not a blockbuster. Yeah, it's not a gimmick that relies on you seeing in the biggest screen possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You'll be just fine watching this on streaming. Interesting. So this is interesting. Here was originally a six-page comic story by Richard McGuire, published in the 89. And then they expanded it into a 304-page graphic novel in 2014. and then they bought the rights for the film, I guess, Zemeckis did it because he was enamored with it. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I kind of want to check this out. It was written in 89, or the original was in 89, and then... And that thing you see in that little panel they show right there on the page, the Wikipedia page, that they do in the movie as well, where they will have like an inset from one time period over the backdrop of another time period,
Starting point is 00:26:59 which... Oh, interesting. Just to kind of show you the juxtap. position between the two, which really is kind of cool, actually. What a trippy. And it's really done well. Trippy concept. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. I definitely want to see this. Like, no matter what the reviews say, this is like just too interesting not to see, but, you know, like, I guess the critics are all up in a bunch about it and don't like it. I mean, the critics are, the audience score, that's almost two out of three people liking it. You know, 58%, not too far from 66%, which would be two thirds. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of what I look at as well. But I also look at, you know, is it something I want to see?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Cool. Then I'll see it. Yeah. I don't know what, um, uh, uh, what was the move? The Kate Blanchett, uh, Robbins hit a game. Oh. No, the, the, the border, borderlands. Borderlands, thank you.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah. I keep thinking, it's not fallout. Don't say fallout. It's definitely not fallout. Don't, don't, don't say fallout. And all I can think of is fallout. Borderlands did 10% critics, 51%, uh, what the, 51%?
Starting point is 00:27:59 percent audience. You know, that sounds about right with our audience, because a lot of people said, yeah, for what it is. I know TV's Travis said, I went in with low expectations and I enjoyed it. And I think there's something to that. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, I kind of want to see it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I don't know if I'll see it in theaters. Probably not, but I'll probably see this for sure. Don't bother seeing that one in theaters. Yeah. That one easily can wait. See conclave in theaters. It's weird to say that a movie about changing the Pope should be seen on a big screen. but it really feels like it should be seen on the big screen.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Did you say whether, oh, what's his name? I can't leave his name all of a sudden. John Lithgow, Ray Fines, Stanley Tucci. Stanley Tucci. He's in it, right? Yeah. Okay. He's in it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 He is fantastic. That guy is absolutely amazing. And I just found out that he's got a regular cooking show somewhere. That's what I was just about to say. That's why I was thinking of him, because Kim loves his cooking show. I need to check out his cooking show. It's on Max. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 He doesn't really, I mean, he cooks some, but it's mostly him traveling around France and Europe and mostly Italy because he loves Italian. In fact, it may only be Italy now that I think about it. But he's sometimes cooks, but mostly he's like hanging out with like actor friends who know a guy and the guy makes the best. Tortolini, Muskeeney, Babita, dude. Sure, you got to, yeah, right. Seems like a good time. Kim loves that. We got to get done away in here.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We got some game to play. Well, let's do it then. Let's get him in here. Just look through the clock. It's quarter till. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we'll get this in. I'm not too worried.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Donnoy's a quick. He's a quick winner and loser. He can do that. He's quick on both. All right. As spoken of just prior to this, we're going to play a game with Brian Dunaway. This is the morning half asses, and that is Brian Dunaway. Hello!
Starting point is 00:29:58 oh hi scott and brian is it monday already it is monday already it is monday yeah do you feel like time is uh moving slow or fast for you these days slipping into the future yeah it keeps on slipping it's going pretty quick i was i'm done talking about how fast months moved because i thought october went quick and we're already the 10th of november what i go 11th 11th of november yeah we're we're almost halfway through the month which is crazy remember remember the 11th of november it works for any day it works for just about any day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah, it's November. Yeah, just rhymes in November. That's too many, too many syllables in 27. Remember, remember the 27th of no, yeah, it doesn't work. It's a little too much. You got to shorten that up. Brian, why don't you explain these rules and who's playing with us and all that stuff? What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Okay. Welcome to the morning half-ass is a trivia game where I'm going to be giving these two chuckleheads of the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Brandic category and six possible answers. Three of which are correct and three that are just incorrect. I'm not going to think of something real quick. depending on how confident they feel with the category they can provide one, two, or three guesses. If any of those guesses are wrong, you get
Starting point is 00:31:04 zero points for that round. Get one right, gets you a point, two right gets you three points, and three right gets you five points total. Nice. Play with the most points after three rounds, wins the prize for their contestant and I've pulled contestants for members of the Tadpool that aren't able to be here live. Scott, you're playing for Zerick,
Starting point is 00:31:20 ally of lure from Omacron Percy 8 in Dayton, Ohio. I thought it was Percy 9, but okay. No, it's Percy. Percii 8, Percii 8. Brian, you're playing for Eric Brissette in Rosemir, Quebec. Just out of Montreal.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Nice. Nice. Oh, Canada. Let's see how you do with these questions here. Question number one, or category number one, let's start out with something easy. You guys are both into the retro. This is right up your alley. Mario franchise characters, which of these?
Starting point is 00:31:58 are Mario franchise characters. You have Toadette, Cabootops, Princess Daisy, Pidgett, Midna, and Doraemon. You just never give us easy one. You're all like, here's the easy question. Here's the easy one. Here's a bunch of complex answers that you'll never get. Midna and Pidgett. I think Pidgett might be.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I don't want to give you help. You pick what you want. You click what you want. Thanks, man. Got any more tips? Got any more hot tips? Yep, Doraman, you should choose. And Cabald.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Cabool Tops. Those are the three. Gotcha. All right. All right. You guys both selected two, and you both selected the same two, and they are both correct. Todette and Princess Daisy are both right. Scott, you were right.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Pidgett would have actually gotten you a few more points. I wasn't totally sure. I wasn't exactly sure. I felt Pokemon-ish. I was a little worried. Caboot Tops is really, as you know, Pokemon. And Midna is from Zelda. And, of course, Darmon completely.
Starting point is 00:32:58 different thing. I don't know what, Midna. Midna's a character in Zelda? I don't know who that is. Midna's a, yeah, Zelda thing. Yeah, I took out Dr. Eggman. I replaced Dr. Eggman and Waluigi with Cabootops and Pidgett. I had to make this thing a little tougher for you. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Nice. Nice. All right. What are we going to play Mask and Major? When are we going to play that one, Scott? That's Midna. The mask, yeah. Whatever that is. I don't remember this character. Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda game ever made. We're never going to do it. I hate it. Fine. I'll fight you. on that. That's a terrible game. Anyway, continue. Wow. All right. Let's go number two here. Number two is
Starting point is 00:33:34 inventions named after a person. Which of these inventions were named after a person? Your choices are, Diesel, Frisbee, Tupperware, heroin, blazer, and kettle. Well, Harry Diesel came up with the diesel, so I mean, no-brainer. And then Sally Frisbee, she came up with that. She had some plates. Don't you try to convince me of anything. Don't you do that. And Bobby Cettle Yeah, Bobby Cettle It sounds like a Tilly called his partner
Starting point is 00:34:04 Pot Black Yeah Right, right, right, right Sounds like an NFL coach, doesn't it? Bobby Cettle on his team Are really going to do well as you're Right, right Well, hell
Starting point is 00:34:14 I don't know I'm going to go with what sounds right That sort of sounds right Blazor, no I'm doing these two Okay Once again You guys both settled on two
Starting point is 00:34:34 And you both settled on the same two Frisbee and Tupperware Both of which are correct Really We're good this week Frisbee was named after William Russell Frisbee Who owned a pie factory And the pie tins they figured out
Starting point is 00:34:50 Could fly like Frisbee's Yeah Rudolph Diesel is who Diesel is named after And I thought it was Martin Tupper. It is Earl Tupper was the person that Tupperware is named after. The reason these are the two Frisbee and Tupperware worked for me is because those names don't make, if you take out what they're known for, they make no sense as a thing. So Frisbee sounds like a frisbee, of course, because we're used to it. But it's a weird name for anything.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And it has to be like a real guy's name. Where's Blazer? Like I know a blazer. I know what a blazer. Sure. But you know what a kettle. is because you know what a kettle is right? If you just saw that
Starting point is 00:35:29 word kettle, it's not something that cats, oh, let me go cut up some water. Yeah, I think kettle is probably, people inherited the name after the thing was created, right? It's old, right? It's super old. Sure. Yeah, cattle's been around for so long. It's got to be like ancient Europe.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I thought of diesel was a fake out. I just thought it was like it's got to be a fake out. He's getting us on the Venn Diesel. Yeah. All right, well, we've got to got to go to round number three to see last year we were tied with zeros this week were doing all right. Doing all right. Both tied
Starting point is 00:36:03 with six points. Let's see what question three does for you. A little history for you. Wonders of the ancient world that were destroyed by earthquakes. Your choices are the Colossus of Rhodes, the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, the lighthouse at Alexandria, the
Starting point is 00:36:19 hanging gardens of Babylon, the mausoleum at Holy Turnerassus, and the statue of Zeus at Olympia. With the mauslema, where now? Hellicarnassus. I was like, I was like Helicarnassus. It isn't, uh, hey, fantastic four, get your nasses in Helicar.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't know this. I have a bad case of Halicaneuris this morning for a brush my teeth. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, real easy for you to say. Yeah. I feel like Alexandria had a burning of the library, but it's not the same as a, earthquake
Starting point is 00:36:56 maybe the earthquakes all right I'm choosing that and I'm choose earthquake caused the fire yeah the hanging gardens shit
Starting point is 00:37:07 this is where I lose all right I'm doing it no no me not maybe I lost maybe we'll tie it up and once again you chose them the same too
Starting point is 00:37:17 no get out of here get out of here the lighthouse of Exandria which was destroyed by an earthquake I knew that one And the hanging gardens of Babylon, which nobody knows actually what destroyed those. It wasn't necessarily an earthquake.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But the Colossus of Rhodes and the mausoleum at Halicarnassus were both destroyed by earthquakes. The Temple of Artemis at Euphesus was by plundering and the statue of Zeus. So not by pooping. No. And the statue of Zeus at Olympia was that one was by fire. I made you confuse that or something. but all right so now we have to have time congratulations on getting exactly the
Starting point is 00:37:57 same number of points as each other hey we're in sync today Scott I like it it it is what else should we do what can we take advantage of here we should do something else I'm thinking you want to bet on something Vegas or something I don't know I don't know what to do let's do it all right I don't know what the advantage is it just
Starting point is 00:38:13 means you'll either both win or both lose exactly but none of us knew here either that's what we're saying is this luck will continue we'll share the experience which is what's important sure you'll share the loss if you lose. All right. Let's get to your tiebreaker question here. You guys can't come up with the same number here. So that's awesome. Let's go to Winchester, Virginia. The town of Winchester, Virginia changed hands more than any other town during the U.S. Civil War. How many times
Starting point is 00:38:46 did Winchester, Virginia, change hands between the north and the south during the U.S. Civil War? Brian, no, I'm Scott, I'm going to have you pick the number. How many times did Winchester, Virginia change hands? I'm going to guess it's significant, so I'm going to say, I'll say 20 times. 20 times is incorrect. Brian is the actual answer higher or lower than 20 times. 20 times sounds ridiculous
Starting point is 00:39:25 so I'm going to say lower yeah good choice but it's not lower it's higher 72 times winchester no it's mine
Starting point is 00:39:36 no windchester actually because of that became known as the shuttle cock of the Confederacy because it got lobbed over the net so many times to the other side that's awesome man I would have never guessed it was that high
Starting point is 00:39:49 but I figured it had If it was a question in this, it had to be significant. Yeah. Because why else use it? If it was like three times. 72 times. That's crazy. But did they notice, like, people on the ground, if you're like a farmer or like a milkmaid
Starting point is 00:40:03 and you lived there, did you just every day wake up and go, one north side we're on today? You know what I mean? That must have been a wild. So is that a milkmaid? I love that as a profession. Yeah. Or whoever. A farmer or a milkmaid.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Whoever. Yeah, I don't know. Because I imagine that they put up a new flag every time. So it's like around City Hall, they have to keep, oh, get the other flag out, I guess we're going on. Well, that's the reason why I thought it would have been less. I'm like, it seems like a lot of paperwork. It really does.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. That's crazy. Wow. All right, I'll take it, though. But congratulations then. Zerick from Dayton, you are getting these games. The winner is getting Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy and Stranded Alien Dawn on Steam. Nice.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Thanks to Wesley for those. Nice. Run her up. Don't worry about it. Eric, you're getting something cool. Coral Island. also on Steam and also from Wesley. So good games for every.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Thank you, Wesley. And Coral Island, excellent game. It's like Star Doe Valley with 3D graphics. It's very nice. Oh, nice. Very good. Yeah, as far as like one of those kinds of games goes, I think it's one of the better ones.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So congratulations. Excellent. Winner, winner, chicken. Have fun with those games. Yes, indeed. Hey, Donaway, in addition to me talking more about this new RG28XX on Friday, we're also going to be talking about donkey Kong country yes which we both of us were convinced we'd already done so we've been we haven't done it forever because it's like oh we've
Starting point is 00:41:33 done it on Kong country no we have it one two and three no super NES come on the SNES I think it's because we did donkey Kong right and then I was playing I was streaming my play through of the first country version of country right for some reason I conflated all that and I was sure we did it. So, uh, lots to say. And, uh, it's, yeah, apparently we're going to be, uh, it's going to be a couple of donkeys. Remember that, that one that was playing little instrument. He was called cranky because he was both old and cranking the music out. Yeah, yeah, that was the donkey Kong. If you didn't know that. Oh, I didn't know that. That's original. That's the OG guy. So wait a minute. Who's so if that's cranky Kong, who's funky Kong? I thought he was the
Starting point is 00:42:12 music guy. No. No. No. That would be dumb. I love funky Kong. He's a funky. Funky Kong is, is, is, is, modern man he's he's he's like can i fly you somewhere yeah come on funky he's great funky con is my yeah he's my jam but he also he's got like music and stuff and does like rap in the new ones i don't know we'll get into it all we'll dig into the minisha monkey con junior tune in this friday to find out yeah it's gonna be great uh oh you bio cows the music one is chaka con shaka con everybody everybody chaka con chaka con everybody that's awesome con done away kiss our butts Butts, please. No, you.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Okay, bye. All right. He's out of there. You see? Well done. Yeah, see? Why am I on the wrong tab? See?
Starting point is 00:42:58 There it is. All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. Science with Bobby. He's sitting in for Stephen this week. Steven's got some busy stuff going on. The college he teaches that. So Bobby was very kind to sweep in with another week of science.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah, nothing wrong with that. That'll be right after this break. Brian, play us a song. What do we got? Got a brand new album from a band called Bodega. uh this is a is the quintet from new york city and they are uh just starting this friday can be starting their tour at brooklyn made uh november 14 so if you like this go check him out live um this uh for whatever reason remind me a lot of early uh weezer oh it's freaking excellent this is a song
Starting point is 00:43:40 called dedicated to the dedicated it's from the brand new album from bodega which is called brand on the run here is bodega The state that I'm obnoxious, incontinent toxic Now you want that I'm obscene Can see you don't see what I mean I've been criticizing care for ventilating this Is it mediocre moneyness Not worthy of contempt
Starting point is 00:44:17 If answers on X because I'm not Trying to be A handle telling you exactly What you have to think Yeah I don't know What's to come I will greet the sun
Starting point is 00:44:30 With the beating of my drum I don't know Who I'll be I will swing my soul No matter what you think of me And if I Lost in translation I'll try
Starting point is 00:44:44 Again I'm lost in translation I'll try like it you state that I'm obnoxious head locked inside a pocket Now you're golden, I'm too green I pray I don't lose my naive
Starting point is 00:45:06 The more you stand upon this rock More you mold it to be wise But mold it to be silent And a little, where to wear the sky It took some ticks It's time to learn the fanities I see And you I'm most despise What I most despise in me
Starting point is 00:45:23 And yet I don't know What's to come I will meet the sun With a beating on my drum And I don't know Who I'll be I am not as ugly
Starting point is 00:45:36 As a frame you put on me And this is Delacadent To the dead A-Gating to the dead Agated Deligated To the vocal
Starting point is 00:45:51 Frustrated I know it's hard to sort All of the difference between What comes from real reason Not, rejection's sour sting If I lose my path, I'll have to try again with the
Starting point is 00:46:16 lost in translation I'll try again yeah I don't know what's to come I will link the sun with the beating of my drum
Starting point is 00:46:29 and I don't know who I'll be I will sing my song no matter what you think of me and yeah I don't know what's to come I will leave the song
Starting point is 00:46:42 with the beating of my trunk God I don't know who I'll be but I'm not as ugly as a frame you put on me and this is delegated
Starting point is 00:46:54 to the dead of Cating dedicated to the vocal frustrated now Introducing Cush
Starting point is 00:47:12 the comfortable nighttime companion, anatomically contoured to gently support and cushion the weight of a woman's breasts. We both won the lottery. Why don't you win the lottery too? And we return. Tell us about that song one more time, please? Sure, that was the band Cush.
Starting point is 00:47:42 kidding that was the band bodega with uh from their brand new album brand on the run with a song called dedicated to the dedicated nice that's what you should be dedicated to dedicate yourself to the dedicated exactly what a great day to be dedicated to the dedicated i agree with that all right bobby's coming in hot yeah well not really is mike is set to perfect levels he's not coming out of all totally is but we're going to learn a little something today and uh you know get some get some wise words from him. If I can just find his effing deal. There it is. Bob is hungry and the soup
Starting point is 00:48:18 looks good. Indeed. His name is Bobby Frankenberger and it turns out he canceled a flight today so he could hang with us. Wow. That was really nice, Bobby. What's that about? Why'd you do that for us? I didn't cancel so that I could hang out with you. Although
Starting point is 00:48:34 it's just the weather. Oh. All right. So yeah, when I talk to You said, I will be there if my flight gets canceled. But then you replied to me and said, I canceled my flight. And so I immediately made up a story in my head that Bobby loves being here so much. I like that story, though. Yeah, it's nice, right? So we're going to stick with that way.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It makes us feel good. Yeah, because we know how much you love us. But we also like Evan, you hear him. We like talking science. And I'm sure you brought a little package of something, something for us. So lay it on us. What's going on? I did.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And if you'll hold on a second, I'm going to turn my camera on. So I would, I normally turn it on real fast, right when you call, but literally when you called, I had 45 seconds left to, in a heroic, a mythic dungeon that I was pugging. And so I answered while we were finishing the boss and I just finished it. And on top of that, on top of that, I just got Keystone Hero. So I got 2,500 ratings. So you were all here to witness it. Oh my gosh. You were last week, last we talked, you were close.
Starting point is 00:49:39 but now you've done it and it was literally moments ago that's fantastic yeah so that's why that's why i had to be rude and unprofessional and um and continue to finish this no it's worth it's worth it you did a little you did some bonus stuff for the instance patreon which people should uh if you're supporting us there go watch this uh it's all about how to be a decent pugging mythic monster like you i don't know how you do it like well one thing one thing that i do is i um i um i i I shirk all responsibility in life and just run a mythic when I'm supposed to when I'm expecting a call gotcha that's the one way to get it done smart it's a good way to do it yeah yeah I feel like you've I've learned a little
Starting point is 00:50:21 something from this interaction right now I'm going to start doing this in my own life all right well then now you can tell us about science instead of mythics I guess yes I can I've got a couple of things that I was reading about this morning and that we can talk about all or a couple of them. Did you hear about the Rhesus monkeys that escaped in South Carolina? Right, like near you. Yeah, I mean, how close is that town in South Carolina to you? It's in, it's right around Beaufort, South Carolina, which is sort of like between
Starting point is 00:50:52 Savannah and Charleston. So maybe an hour and a half. Well, if it were by the interstate, it'd probably be an hour and a half, like if there were an interstate to it, but it'd probably take like two hours to get there because. Wow. It was going to be our, we had it in our news today. So I'm glad we're bringing it up because we can scratch that one off. But it says here that they're over 40 on the loose.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Is that true? Yeah, so 43 rhesus macaque monkeys escaped on Wednesday. It was on Wednesday that they did. And it was this lab called Alpha Genesis. They do... That sounds friendly. Yeah. Well, they do animal testing, different kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:51:31 They do a lot of things with monkeys for science, providing them. breeding them providing like biomaterial for tissue samples blood but also they'll do testing on them and everything but
Starting point is 00:51:48 anyway apparently what happened was that a a caretaker quote failed to secure the doors at the facility unquote I've seen this episode of from
Starting point is 00:52:01 haven't we Brian we know how this goes yes we have yes exactly I thought isn't this kind of how Planet of the Apes, like how this whole thing started. Right. Oh, yeah. No kidding. Oh, yeah. Protect the... Somebody please go protect the Statue of Liberty. Yeah. We just didn't expect macaques
Starting point is 00:52:16 to be the dominant Planet of the Apes. Because up to this point, it's all oh, gorillas and chimps, clearly. But nope, it's these little guys. That's right. If the chibs sound like Ryan and McDowell, what do the macaques sound like? Pat Nosswald or something? Yeah, it fits. Or just like,
Starting point is 00:52:31 eh, what are you doing? May! Something like that. Hey! Hey! Yeah. A little piss pots. Anyway. But yeah, so they escaped and what's funny is we heard it in the news when my in-laws were in town. They live closer to that area and they have some friends that live in Buford. So he was texting them all and saying like, oh, watch out. There's going to be monkeys in your backyard.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But anyway, so they escaped and the things that people have been wondering, like you got to, you got to recover 43 macaque monkeys, right? Like, what's going to happen? And the current updates are that they're basically just hanging out around the facility. Okay. They didn't go anywhere. They're just like, oh, cool, the doors are open. We can go play outside.
Starting point is 00:53:21 It's about like they had a map that they said, all right, we've got to go to the capital. Right. My biggest takeaway, is this wrong that I was rooting for the monkeys? I'm a little annoyed that they're just hanging around the facility, but I'm kind of rooting for the monkeys like go guys get out of there you're not wrong to root for the monkeys and it's and they're they i think they're winning they're they're playing in the trees outside the facility they're having they're living their best macaque life yeah i just wish they were in a place where they could actually like not have that's the word i mean they're going to get caught
Starting point is 00:53:53 right they're going to catch them this isn't going to go on forever they're not going to go you know here at genesis labs we've decided that the best thing is that they're out of here and doing what they want they're not going to do that Right. Right. They're going to bring them back. And that bums me out. So it's fine. Whatever. It's the circle of science. The circle of science doesn't really roll off the tongue as easy, but somebody, somebody get Disney on that. They'll take care of it. Well, so what happens now then? They capture them. They go back to plugging them full of chemicals. It's like, what happens now? they uh what they do at that lab is um biomedical research so usually they're testing uh medications
Starting point is 00:54:32 medicine vaccines um they're they were testing uh different stuff like that they'll also they use their facility for quarantine if if uh if quarantines needed for testing animals and stuff like that but yep that's what they're going to do they're going to try to get it but they i feel like they're hanging out around the facility and it how long does it take to are they are they I'm wondering are they worried that if they try to start capturing them will will it drive them away or something I'm just wondering why is it taken so long oh good point are they're not going anyway is the surrounding area not very urban I assume it's like a lot of trees and stuff and you know yeah it's not a it's not a
Starting point is 00:55:12 super populated part of South Carolina and and and the I mean the local authorities have said that there's not really much that much much to worry about anyway they're small They're like six or seven pounds each. They're all healthy monkeys. They haven't had any, they hadn't been part of any research yet. So there's not like risk that they're incubating viruses or anything like that. Thank goodness. So there's not a lot of like concern or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So I guess we'll find out when they get some. If I was a plucky young kid, you know, let's say Twitter was right and I'm only 12. yeah yeah i would go try to get one of these monkeys and it would be a whole story about our friendship uh i would take him in i'd feed him a big age story of a man and his yeah man and his monkey that's right and here's what would happen you'd have like really great evil and uh over there at the genesis thing and i would have run-ins with them trying to hide the monkey i mean this is an 80s movie just waiting to get made i'm all let's do it it would be called me and macaque there you
Starting point is 00:56:24 me and macaque perfect macaque me yeah that's even better i love it yeah i'm really glad we worked shopped at this time yeah me too i feel like it may even seen this movie wasn't there something like this back in the long time it was a mac in me but i think it was a robot oh you're right wasn't it yeah but wasn't there there was a monkey thing where they alley sheetie or somebody was involved they broke him out was that x was that uh we filmed sac this you might be thinking of well yeah we did. I think you're thinking of Project X with Matthew, yeah, Matthew Broderick and That's it. Yeah, Ellie and stuff. Project X, yeah, that's, I think I'm just repeating that movie in my head. Dunstan checks in. That's what you're thinking. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Finally, finally, we figured it out. I got to admit, though, after watching that Chimp Crazy show, it has really turned me on chimps being treated. Please isolate. Please isolate just the first part of Scott's statement. You really, you guys really should see it. It's a, it's, it's wild how these animals are, we just don't, we just, we just, we just, humans think we've got it all worked out. We don't, yeah. We don't have, we don't know shit. And those things will eat your face.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I don't care how domestic they are, how long you've had them. You got a 40 year old chimp who's never heard of flee. One day, he will turn on you and eat half your head off. Oh, man, you got to watch it. That's something. That's what I do. You've got it queued up. Fortunately, I've got a recommendal for this week,
Starting point is 00:57:58 so I think that gives us carte blanche to watch Chim Crazy. Yeah, get it in there. Nicole was right. It's a hell of a thing. It was worth every eyeball second that I spent on it. All right. So, Bobby, there you go. Monkeys in the news.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Oh, your lights on. How do they work? There's a couple other, I'm messing with my camera. I apologize. You're all good. seems like a really good time to do that yeah yeah well you know I had to do a mythic dungeon earlier so right right right of course um the uh the other thing is the CDC there's some news out of the CDC not the CDC the FDA sorry we were just talking about the CDC but the do you remember it was last
Starting point is 00:58:42 year we we talked about how the FDA was going to pool or had been reviewing all the research for phenylephrine, the over-the-counter decongestant that apparently was not effective. Oh, we did talk about it. Yeah, we definitely did. Yeah, so last year we talked about that.
Starting point is 00:59:03 So to quickly get caught up on that because it's not a big news item, this update, but this is what, all these are updates, right? Updates on monkeys, updates on decongestants. But, it was really hoping that we were going to get that for me today.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Who expected both of these? Wow. Sudafed and monkeys. So the active ingredient in in over-the-counter is phenolephrine. And it'd long been thought for a while that
Starting point is 00:59:37 phenylephrin, the active ingredient in over-the-counter pseudephed, is not it was not effective at all. And that it just wasn't an effective decongestine. It just didn't work. and people have been trying to get that reviewed for a while. Finally, the FDA agreed and reviewed some of the stuff
Starting point is 00:59:54 and agreed last year that it was not an effective decongestant. And you'd think that that, okay, great. So they're going to do something about that and they want to do something about it. But there is so much bureaucracy in how all of that works. And that's not a judgment. That's just how it works, right? It's very slow moving. A lot of it is for important safety reasons.
Starting point is 01:00:16 but the fact is even if they review all the research and find it's not effective first they have to so they make a judgment and say it's not effective and then they that statement they have to
Starting point is 01:00:28 put out for public comment because the next step they want to do is take the drug well the next thing they want to do is make a recommendation to take the drug off the monogram the monogram is just a list of drugs that drug makers can use
Starting point is 01:00:46 in over-the-counter products. And so they want to take it off, right? But they, so that first they have to make a recommendation that it be taken off. And then after the recommendation gets approved by being open to public comment, then they can finally take it off. So it's a very, so now we're in the middle step of the process. It's finally the, the fact that they declared that it was ineffective, that whole statement was left open to public comment and it passed through that.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And now they're ready to say that. this is ineffective. Now, that has to be subject to public comment. And the next step, if they don't hear anything from the public to say otherwise, that convinces them otherwise, the next step will be taking it, to take it off the monogram and it won't be able to be put in any medications anymore. Does stuff like this or decisions like this ever get put on hold when there's a transition in administration? You know what I mean? Well, I mean, I wouldn't say normally, but But the current incoming administration has very, very, like, has stated that they have it out for the FDA. So they want to gut the FDA.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I think they want to get rid of the FDA is what Trump and his, and the RFK said. Yeah, I know the Department of Education, they want to kill that. And then this thing is, yeah. Yeah, it's either that or they just want him to come put RFK in charge and let him clean the whole thing out and do it new and do whatever he's going to do or whatever. So, yeah, so in this case, like normally it seems like this is like a no-brainer that this just happens behind the scenes and you've got approvals and disapprovals and stuff just happening. But maybe this time there's a weird freeze on it until. Yeah, I would have normally said, if this was a few years ago, I would have said nothing that you didn't have to worry about it. but because they have specifically stated that the FDA they're targeting because of things.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And then also, you know, the administration has been shown to be pretty open to influence from corporate influence. I would be concerned. not that this so this this isn't like if phenylephrine products stay on the shelf then it's the end of the world
Starting point is 01:03:15 it's just a symptom of a larger problem right like it's something that doesn't work and it shouldn't be on the shelves anymore and if we can't do something as simple as say well it doesn't work let's stop using it then that's just a symptom of a larger problem right yeah I wonder how slow the gears move on a thing like that
Starting point is 01:03:30 I mean obviously you told us about it last year and then now they're just they already move slow so imagine if Imagine if the right now my pessimism says that the best case scenario we have with the FDA is that it's going to get gutted and a lot less funding and and everything's going to move even slower. Yeah. So what if it's, but we'll see, we'll see. What if it's just RFK in a room going, that looks good. That one looks okay.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I think this one's all right. Please bring me up. Come to somebody, please bring me a bear. Yeah. And also, I need some sort of throat loggins for something. What the heck is Cheryl? doing with me this is our new impression for the new for the next four years we're doing perfect yeah excellent yeah yeah I don't have anyone else I can do so you know that's all
Starting point is 01:04:16 yours Cheryl get in here anyway this is fantastic Bobby we've gotten an update on lots of things monkeys on the loose yeah effa heffine ferefram and and and whether fennel effron and whether we can get it or not and if it works or not and then a little bit of you know sooth saying on the future of the FDA this is good stuff This is quality content. Bobby, is there anything else going on in your life in terms of other podcasts or anything else that you'd like to mention now before we go? I like how you drew a quickly drew a circle around that kind of. Like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Go back here. In terms of podcasting, Bobby. In terms of podcasting. Strict terms. Yeah, well, I've got a science podcast that's that we do every week that has, you know, science on it. So if you're interested in science, then you should check that out. And we just had an episode come out that is all about, this wouldn't open. We talked about Hot Springs, which was really cool because I'd kind of taken for granted that hot springs, you know, existed.
Starting point is 01:05:24 They work. Yeah. Yeah, that they're just a thing that works. Hot Springs and Geysers. We got a lot of those on the western side of Denver, the metro area. And been to them, they're great. I mean, I know they're all over the country, obviously, all over the world. But there's a lot of them in particular in your part of the country because of the mountains.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And we talk, Mora, my co-host, researched them and went all into that and why it is that they're in mountainous areas and what it is that causes them to be hot and why they are what they are. But that was it. And then also, you know, we have this World of Warcraft podcast that apparently. I was doing research for it, Scott. I'm sorry. Oh, that's true. That is it right, exactly. He should actually get paid for that time that he was working.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No kidding. Look at you, $2,500. He wants $1 for each of the $2,500 points, is the goal there. No, yeah, we should mention that we got an episode coming up sometime soon for the month of November. So watch for that. I also have a little bonus interview coming out, probably on the main feed as well as Patreon, from our good pal Sarah, aka
Starting point is 01:06:35 Shojo Beat. I'm going to talk to her about what it means to be a short form video content creator on the rise in the World Warcraft space. Oh, geez. Her stuff is fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:46 She's been playing for a long time. We've had a long history with her, and I'm really excited to sit down and talk to her, even though I've had to bump our appointment about 10 times. But we're finally got a date, and we're going to make that happen. But yeah, watch for that some time this month.
Starting point is 01:06:57 That's over at frogpans.com slash instance. And always worth checking that out. Bobby, it's good having you here, man. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day. And may all your flights be interrupted by rainstorms or whatever. All righty. We did it. Quick note.
Starting point is 01:07:16 We have a programming change that I need to let people know about due to some Carter scheduling stuff that's going on. We are now moving the Monday show to 12 p.m. noon, that is to say, a mountain time on Mondays. So still Mondays. but no longer 4 p.m. So you don't have to wait all day to get it. You get it earlier. It means I have to scramble a little bit. Just get ready for it, but not a big deal.
Starting point is 01:07:39 So today at noon, you will get the Monday show with me and Carter talking, whatever we're talking. All right. Watch for that, Brian. You have anything going on today? Do you like to mention before we go? Nothing going on today that I want to mention. Oh, secrets. I wish I could say that that's why.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Now, still working on editing that the video. for making the open kate has broken out into several videos so i'm really going through and trying to a keep it fun and lively and quick and be figure out the order everything is done in that's great i'm excited you probably just have a bunch of broad footage you got to figure out what goes where at this point it's a lot of close-up footage of my hands uh screwing in uh screws and and holding down raspberry pies and things like that so there's a category for that on only fans people love the hands close up of hand really oh Oh, good. Okay, good to know.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I was a hand model, Jerry. All right, well, let's get out of here with a song. Oh, reminder, all our stuff is over at frogpants.com slash TMS. You've got no excuse as to what the hell's going on. It's all there. Just go and get it there. Request for songs, all that stuff. Speaking of which, what do we have today?
Starting point is 01:08:49 We've got a song going out to Leslie, Leslie Victory, and she wrote in and said, Hey, guys, to honor Logan's first time seeing Hanson live this weekend in L.A. was just this last weekend a couple days ago. I'm requesting their new cover of Pink Moon. That's it, thanks. So by a guy, originally by a guy named Nick Drake, familiar with Nick Drake? No, I don't know who that is, Nick Drake. No, this song you might know from an old Volkswagen commercial when they had the,
Starting point is 01:09:21 they were introducing the Luna Blue color of the Volkswagen Beetle, the new Volkswagen Beetle. um you're you're you're an old suss grandma so you should be able to find that one um oh here we go jane uh oh no that's not it that's blue beetle the movie uh i can't find it i was going to play i was going to play a taste of it but that's interesting i probably would recognize it so this uh is a brand new single that um that hanson released it is from their underneath complete collection and it's a great song nick drake's pink moon all right that's going to do it for us. We'll see you guys tomorrow for a Tuesday edition of the morning stream. You stand so tall
Starting point is 01:10:30 Bigmon gonna get her song It's Big Moon Yes Big Mo Bang Bang
Starting point is 01:10:43 Bang Bang Bang Big Big Big You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be.
Starting point is 01:11:27 So I've written and saw it say Big moon is on this way And now are you stand so tall Big Moon going to kill you Oh it's a big moon Yeah it's a big moon Bain, bing, bang, bing. Bain more.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Bain, bing, bing, bing, bong. Bain more. Yeah, it's been more one. Yeah, it's been more. Yet me more Those pants are made for frog in, if you know what I mean. I actually don't. I don't even know what I mean.
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