The Morning Stream - TMS 2737: Farting on Cables

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Guardians of the Galaga. Too Much Radioation! Ask Your Doctor if Band Meeting is right for you. Frigga - I hardly Know Her. Are Frogs Gay Cos I like Really Wanted To Know. TMS Maddening To Do. Maddening to Listen to. Lee Ermey Style. Cuckoo for Clocks. When the Big Fat Bugs DIE. Everything is Cancer. I'm Taking Your Ship, I'm Taking Your Ship, Nah Nah Nah. We know you're listening because you listen. Trading Apples for Cigarettes. OnionWars. Self words with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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fours in there today. That's nice. Some tasty tangy fours. Yeah, like a nice four. Don't you? Nice little four in there. Speaking of which, it's Brian, by the way, and I'm Scott. I forgot to say that. Oh, hi. Well, in case people don't know our names. I mean, you know what happens. I was almost going to have to look at one of my business cards or the label on my fax machine. I had sent you a message the other day saying, how's T-Mobile for you today? And you said, fine, no issues. I forgot to report on this. We had a two hour, two and a half hour.

outage, all T-Mobile and all MintMobile, because MintMobile backpacks on top of T-Mobile. And also my new ISP is T-Mobile-based. So I had to revert to the backup one, which is why you have a backup. Anyway, two and a half hours down. And it was just Utah and a little piece of Texas. And we still don't know why.

They just apologize for the outage. We don't know what happened there. Somebody fart on the wrong cable, pumped into a switch. know, but, uh, I hope it's not a, you know, fart on a cable causes this kind of a problem situation, but, uh, I know, because you're always farting on your ISP every morning. I'm always fart on cables. I'm fart on a cable right now. Right. This is what we do in the morning. You guys wonder how we, you know, fuel the show? We do it. So we do it. So we do it. Part on cables. That's right. Uh, congratulations to the onion. Go search as to why. We think of something really great happened, uh, yesterday with the onion. And, uh, we'll let you learn it for yourselves. Hey, I got a fun audio. game for Brian today. Cool. I'm in.

Yeah, not music related because they shut us down on YouTube when we do that. We have to save that for a Friday. Yeah, yeah, you can't do that. But I got to think in the other day, you know, like I think if this, if I was going to do this with Tempest, you would win and it would be dumb because you just know too much about Tempest. So I thought, well, what's another game that Brian would have played back in the day when we were kids that he would have at least some strong memory pullback based on the audio, but may not be. be able to ace it right out of the gate. And the answer is, we're going to play some Gallagher sounds. I love it.

And you're going to tell me what those sounds correspond to, meaning what is... So what's happening in the game when I hear that sound? Exactly, right? Okay. And Gallag is a big one. Gallag is one that was just in our lives. It was in our face. You couldn't help it.

You couldn't avoid it. Totally was. Yes. Everywhere you went. The superior, the Godfather 2 to the Galaxian of Godfather. That's right. The Godfather of Galaxian. That's a great way of good looking at it, exactly.

It is the superior sequel. Although, yeah, I mean, it's almost hard to even think of Galaxine in the same category anymore, right? Yeah. It's so much better. Gallagher just ruined Galaxian. Although Kamikaze 3, this weird knockoff bootleg thing my dad got in Japan and brought home and put it in an arcade machine, the one's out in my garage, is basically a hacked version of Galaxian that's just turbo. You start and immediately like eight shows. ships come at you and start swerving around.

Oh, my God. Oh, it's awesome. Wow. It's so good. Jeez. Anyway, there's video on that somewhere. Let's go ahead and get started, Brian, with your first question. What is this sound when you play Gallagher? That is, um, uh, is that extra shit, an extra life? You're close. That is destroying the fighter that they took.

That right. And then it adds, it doesn't even give you an extra ship. It takes one of your existence. ships that you lost and sticks it on to your ship. Yeah. So I'm going to give you that one. And also that one, that is my least favorite thing about Gallagher. I don't like the risk reward decision that is. Yeah. Let him take a ship and then get it back to double fire. It's one of your lives to potentially have a double shot, a double, a double shot, but makes your overall target wider too. It does. But then, yeah. So they come swinging down and nick it, and then you're like, well, great, I had that for five seconds. Like, I hate that whole thing to the point

that I will single ship the entire run of that game. And I do pretty good in that game, but I hate it. I'm always tempered, though. Like, I see the, I see the purple bug coming down with his two little friends, with his little entourage. And that might be one of the sounds. It might be. Let's find out. Okay, how about this one?

This is a tricky one. Oh, that is the sound that one of the, the bees make when they're about to spin in a circle and come back from. Oh, no, no. No, no, no. Can you play it again? That's a tricky one. That's just the sound from one of the bees about to go down and come at you in formation. Yes, and it stops there for some reason.

There's no, like, these aren't cut short. That's the full, that's the full sound of him taken off and going down. So good job, you did it. All right, now this one, well, I'll play it. What do you think that is? Oh, shoot. I'll give you a hint. You kind of said it earlier.

That's not the sound. That's not the tractor beam's sound. Is that, is that, okay, is that when it takes it? Nope. Oh, uh. You said the word earlier, but you, but you quickly moved away from the word. Let's say that. Yeah, okay.

Let me, I play it one more time then. That's an extra life. Well done. Yeah. Well done indeed. I'll give you, uh, oh, I don't have the dings here. Yeah, that's all right. Uh, all right, this one.

Pretty obvious. I think that's the way to blow up. I'm going to guess. Well done. You've lost your ship. Nicely done. Okay. How about this one?

Oh, that is... Got a very Pac-Man quality to it. Yes. What is that? Oh, my gosh. That is... And imagine that in sequence, like a bunch of them. Yes.

Yeah, that is the noise that the... the big fat bugs make when they come on screen close it's when the big fat bugs die when they die okay because i'm hit that's right because i'm hitting the chichichich you know on the rapid fire when they're coming down in the challenge level yeah and you can hear it like over and over because you're if you're good yeah if you're good you're like nailing them as they're coming down yes as they come down all right challenge stages you know how they work they're big strings of the things and all that um tell me what this is that's a hint so you know

what sequence this is from but what part of challenges is this this is that's always bothered me that it goes from like a nice 4-4 song to the very end of do do do do do

do it's a little weird oh we're out of time that's when it's giving you your report on the percentages and everything how you did you're very close It is the challenge stage beginning, so the start of the stage. Oh, beginning.

Okay, so it's not the end. It's the beginning. Yeah, you're very close, though. All right. And these are all over the place. I'm not doing these any kind of, like, order or else it would give it away. Yeah, it would be obvious. Like, you just sequence.

Sorry about this one. That's game over? Close. You're so close. I'll let you needle down. That's enter your initial. Very good. Very well done. That's exactly it. So you're at the end going, uh, ASS, he, he, and then going to another game.

All right. Right. Uh, all right. Let's try this one. Oh, that's tractor beam. Yep. Capture in the tractor beam. Well done. Perfectly done. I see, I see Amy is, like I've got like five messages from Amy in Discord. I haven't opened them yet, but I'm guessing she's playing along because this is her game. Oh, that's right. She loves Gallagher. That's right. It's like. having cheesy G talk about Ms. Pac-Man. Right. She's so good at that. All right, here's this one.

Oh, what is that? That's another... It goes along with one of these. Yeah, it's another creature dying. Is that the... Is that when you turn one of the yellow, gray, bugs, blue? That is correct.

That's like basically a kill, but it's a conversion kill, I guess. Yes. I don't know how to describe it down one level. Yeah. Now this, so you did this one earlier. All right. Yep. So what is this?

That's the bug taking your ship back up to its place up at the top of the tree. And your ship is going like spinning, right? If I remember right, right, right. No, it spins in the tractor beam, but it's just sitting vertically above the bug when it goes back. Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, did I have that backwards? Is that the sound of the tractor beam, or is that...

Oh, well, if you do, I do, because I thought it was the other way, too. So if this, it... Hold on. All right, that I have as tractor beam, and this is, I have as capture. I may have them backwards. I think those were backwards. Okay, I flipped them. Now that I hear that one, that's the tractor beam.

And the other one is the, I'm taking your ship back up to the top. Yeah, I think I screwed those up. All right, how about this one? Oh. No, that's the sound of it taking your ship back up to the top. You get that music of like, you just lost your ship. You just lost your ship. I never thought of it as a taunting thing.

It's a taunting thing. So then, oh, okay. So one of those first two sounds, I stick with the one that I now say is the tractor beam. I think the other one is it coming down about to do the tractor beam maybe. Okay, so this, okay, so this one, that's actual tractor beam. I still say that's still tractor beam, yes. This one, that's capturing it. That's capturing, okay, right, and then that other thing is, it's an elevator musician.

And now it's taken off with the music. Okay. Yeah, I think you, you have it right and also, I think I had it right, but I termed these two weird, so that's all it is. All right, how about this one? that's um annoying thing that's different than the one you played before because that's the beginning of a stage it is so this one that's the beginning of a challenge stage very subtle very subtle yeah the one's a little more echoy a little more verb okay yeah any idea on that one what do you think that one is oh oh that's just the start of a regular stage fell done well done start of your game yeah absolutely easy one oh yeah total throwaway uh all right this one.

That's one of the bugs coming down from formation and coming down at you. Yep. Do I have to know which one? No, you're all good. Good. Because the very first fly down, that's the sound it'll make. Yeah, the very first fly down, that's the sound it'll make. And prior to that, it's just that.

Yeah. Oh, that sound is so cool. Freaking. I didn't capture that one because it was hard to do it without other sounds in there. Yeah. Oh, wow. Good job capturing these, though. Because, like, you know, you hear that, it's rare to hear just one of those without, like, four of them.

I guess once you've cleared the board, you got the one coming down at you. Yeah, it was easier to do. I did it with my, with an emulator, so I could kind of, so I wouldn't be shooting while a thing was happening. But I died a lot. It was a pain in the ass. I'll just say that. I probably could have gone to YouTube and done this faster. I'll just eat your sacrifice.

Never forget. All right. How about this one? Oh, I guess I did capture this. Yeah, that's the, that's just the general we're floating. I forgot I did. With nothing coming at you, that is just the ship's information kind of wafting back and forth on the screen. Which was always a little indicative of like their bugs, which is the idea.

They're like space bugs. Yeah. Yeah, I was kind of like that. All right, so I did capture that. I thought I didn't. All right, how about this one? Well, this is easy. You're shooting your gun.

Yep. The dude, you, you are shooting. Shooting your ship. Or your ship shooting. Okay, how about this one? That's an extra life. Close. Oh, really?

Yes. Close in that. Because you already got extra life earlier. This is extra life. Is that putting in a quarter? Oh, right. That's okay. This is putting in a quarter.

Very good. That is absolutely that. That's what you would hear before you hear anything else, I suppose. God, put your money in. It's funny how similar those are. One gets you three lives. The other one just gets you one. Yeah.

The other one just gets you going or get you paid. It gets them paid is what it does. All right, here's the final one, Brian. Let's see if you can guess this one. I think this one's a little tricky. That is telling you the number stage that you're on. So that's the beginning of the fourth stage. You are not only correct, but dead correct.

Although they call them flags. Flags, okay. And they show up like little flags, but that is exactly what they are. I don't think you got more than one wrong in this. one or two. I didn't keep track. Did anyone keep track? You did really well, is what I'm saying.

I thought you were going to struggle. But, you know, this are Tempest and Tempest I would have got rocked on. Tempest would have been a blast. Although, yeah, no, I can't turn the sound down on that thing when it's playing. I'm going to check really quick and see what, oh, here we go. Amy says, I'm in a meeting right now, but I can hear bits and pieces from Chuck's office, and those are Gallagia sounds. I have no idea what y'all are doing, but I can hear your voices,

but I'm hearing the sounds, and it's killing my ADHD. He's a quiz for me If it is a quiz Damn it of all days for me Not to be in the freaking chat Yeah, well done Stuck in a meeting While we're over here having fun

Just rub it in Chuck I saw him in the chat Rub it in Well, I'm gonna break out the open cade And I'll play some Gallaget When we're done today It puts you in the mood, doesn't it? It's weird

It really does Yeah, it totally does Had the same exact thing happened to me And I was like, after I captured it all I'm like, you know I'll just play a few rounds here And like you will not Many of the little handhelds do a reputable job of recreating Gallagher, like, I imagine there's a...

You mean the Ambernik type stuff? Yeah, in other words, like, can I go into my Ambernik and pull up a GBA version of Gallagher, and it's pretty good. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, the arcade ones are on there, too. I have, like, a bunch of maim. Oh, that's true. Yeah, okay, you can put the maims on there. Yeah, that's what I played last night on the new little one was the maim version.

The only downside of that was it's a... Well, you know that thing's like a 2.8-inch screen, the one I showed you. Yeah. Yeah, that brand new one, yeah. And the game is vertical. And so really, really small. It's like looking at a vertical photograph. Yeah.

So I wouldn't recommend that, but the SP or the RG-58 or whatever, the one you have, that would still be plenty of screen space, I think, to do it. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, all those play on there. It's really good. You think that, like, especially if you had like a steam deck, you could do something where you turn it sideways

and use the thumb Oh, I think you can. I think there's, well, I know you can and what's the, what's it called? The stuff that the back end of all of this is retroarch, right? Yeah. Retroarch, yeah.

That'll let you do. You just do settings and have it switch over so you could totally do that. That's true, right. It is just running the same software I have on the open cede. Fair enough. Okay. Easy. And once again, just a reminder, the steam deck really is truly the ultimate retro device. It will play anything, man. It really is. Yeah. And you get that big screen. I got a, I haven't redone mine since I got the OLED version. I just have been lazy. I'm going to do that. I'm doing it today. Today is the day

that I'm doing it. All right, Brian, we've done that. Let's move on. Oh, quick text from Joshua from Indiana. Indiana, Indiana. How's the song go? There's a song for. Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana, Gary, Indiana. It's all about Gary, I forgot. All about Gary, Gary. What is that from the Music Man? Is that right? No.

I don't know. Guys and Dolls, it's from one of those, I think. And was he just talking about where he was from? I don't actually. I don't really know anything about it. I lumped that one in the same one as, oh, well, the Wells Fargo wagon is a coming down the street. I wish I knew who it was for.

Oh, man. You know more about that. It is for Music Man. Yeah. Yep, there it is. grew up on all that stuff I didn't but I respect it

I just don't know it Anyway he says Dear Sudafed and Benadryl Ooh we know where this is going Nice I guess he's saying that we make him tired Yeah Well I guess Sudafed makes you hyper

Benadryl makes you tired So they cancel each other out And make you normal Oh right That's right Sudafed is a Is an upper Yeah

Brian's the downer I'm the upper that's right exactly but this can flip any second all right so that's how this works with medication he says in regards to your discussion with dan about drug advertising did you know that the U.S. and

New Zealand are the only countries that allow direct to consumer advertising of prescription drugs and then he's got a link to it best regards Joshua I didn't know that I had no idea so are you telling me if you and I go to London I'm not going to turn on the TV

and they're not going to say ask your doctor putting your thumb up your asses right for you. They're not going to do that. Exactly. Yeah. Right. No, we're not going to hear, oh, oh, oh, Zampic. You know, never believe it's not so. Right. I think that makes sense because, okay, but why do we do that? Yeah. Because. And then why does New Zealand do that? Like, why New Zealand? Because as Americans, we are so stupid and paranoid that we need the commercials to tell us what our problems are instead of going to the doctor and finding up for you know for ourselves we need oh i think i have that i'd like to look i'd like to enjoy

playing frisbee in the park with my son yeah like uh you're right about us but what is wrong what's going on with new zealand you always hear how you know great they are yeah that's true yeah but what are they doing they're the only other country we're the only two in existence right now that will advertise direct to the public art doctor if band meeting is right for you I'd take band meeting twice a day. That's fine. Ban meeting. Put it in my veins. Well, anyway, thanks, Josh, for the info. Yeah, good to know.

I had no idea. That's crazy to me. I mean, I assume that if you ask somebody in New Zealand, they would have perhaps a different answer as to why. I don't know. Yeah. I just wish, you know, it Lesterholt should just steer into it and say, coming up after the break, we're going to look at, you know, how this community in Charleston is doing it at a-da. But first, three ads for pharmaceuticals. Yeah.

Okay, so here's the... Songs from the 70s. Here are the pros and cons, they say, in this study. The cons are, when you advertise direct to the public, it creates more use of more expensive branded medication, which are more often featured in the commercials, rather than knowing that there are generic options that will save the money.

Right, sure. So that's one downside. Another one would be less interest in non-pharmological treatments, including lifestyle changes in healthy behaviors. In other words, you show a commercial with an old guy running with a dog. You think you just go do that and you'll be fine. Then finally, inappropriate drug prescription through patients asking for unnecessary drugs that they have seen in advertisements, but they don't really need. Conversely, the pro arguments are educating consumers about possible treatment options about illnesses or diseases they may not have at the top of their mind. Number two, increasing engagement and treatment initiation with advertised drugs or the generic counterparts.

And thirdly, encouraging medication adherence. I don't know. Those are all a little weak. I think I agree with the other ones. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think the number, the second one in there, which is you don't think you've got something until you see an ad that makes you think you've got it. It's like the web MD thing where, where, oh, you know, I might have that little, uh, I do feel a little pain in my elbow every once in a while.

I'll bet I need that. And then you go to the doctor and say, I think I need this. And they either say, no, you don't need that. Or, hmm, yes, you do need that. I could use a new swimming pool. Yeah, I didn't even think about that part. We got a for-pay problem over here that I think a New Zealand has nationalized health care, I think. Yeah, so it shouldn't be.

There should be no advantage to them for pushing the drugs on you. I actually don't know that, though. do they have maybe they do i don't know uh well anyway to keep i guess keep uh paying for that magic song ozempic and that's right keep getting what you get out of there keep giving pilots some money yeah there you go um all right one final note uh jeff has a thought jeff sire canadian canadian famous canadian oh he do i have that he sent me a picture of that you know we talked about the little cards that will tell you if you've had too much radiation what were those called oh yeah

um shit right it's the it looks like the canary and a coal mine uh kind of thing right where you're uh what was that called i don't know what that's called dosimeter docemitter thank you that's it um he sent me a picture of a dosimeter and i meant to show it earlier i didn't i will now although you know i should know that because my uh dad is a uh physicist physicist who specialized in dissimetry oh really Yeah, part of his cancer treatment. Yeah, he would, they used like simulators and things to figure out how much radiation they could pinpoint on one spot with this really cool, like rotating futuristic looking machine and have two beams going across and like really pinpoint where the radiation was concentrated. Interesting. All right, I just crossed out his name and his number so we don't have any. problems here but um but look at that so that's the thing and i guess these two black windows will show up um almost like a covid test i'm guessing it's that white circle would turn red if you've got because that looks like it's an inset everything oh i see it here let me oh maybe that black circle too so the black

circle is your control maybe and when that white circle turns black it tells you that you've got too much radio radiation radiation so much radiation yeah one of these will probably light up it's like a COVID or a P test or something kind of sort of stuff down here I don't know what these are it's weird probably little storage capsules of some liquid or something it's where you keep your weed

or yeah maybe it's like an emergency like anti-radiation oh maybe I was thinking it's just something that like provides a constant source of moisture to the pad or that wouldn't make sense because that thing would dry out so damn quick I don't know it looks like it's storing something

and it doesn't look like it's something you can get access too. Yeah, that's true. And Jeff, if you're listening, I know he's listening because he listens, but I don't think he sees the video. I crossed out all your info. There was nothing there identifying you, just in case you're worried. Thank you for that. All of your Info wars. Yeah. Congratulations once again to The Onion. In Info wars. I'm a frog's gay. Real quick, make sure to buy my supplements. I've got to go online buy my supplements. They're made from cat hair and bones ground up bones

is he gonna have any of that now I guess he can go do whatever he wants he says start over I don't know how it works yeah who knows it's only good news I've had in weeks Jeff Sire said this I forgot to read his actual email he says Scott and Brian says I was listening to the cool remix

of Scott's looped voice and I thought of a possible topic for you guys TMS has been running for well over 10 years that's true it has the whole time you have been using voice chat Yes, that's true. Brian lives in Denver. I live here in Salt Lake City. Why has it not gotten better? It seems to have actually gotten worse in some ways. Maybe it's just me, but this seems weird. Well, I'm going to go ahead and argue that it hasn't gotten worse. Outside of occasional ISP issues, the quality of the audio is still, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. But it's not perfect. Here's the thought. When you're just starting out and you're a Discord and like, oh, look, we have voice chat. you know, a small percentage of your user base is taking up that server

bandwidth to use it. And then the more and more people start like, ooh, we can use this for Rade Chat, or we can use this to record a show, or we can use this to do live streaming or whatever, then the usage of it might start to push the boundaries of the bandwidth that they

have allocated to it. Sure. Sure. So there might be, there could be some of that, but they certainly hasn't gotten better. Oh, definitely not gotten better. Yeah, if anything is Stayed consistent. The one place it did get better is when you use video, at least one-on-one, the video, the audio codec doesn't take as big a hit as it used to.

It used to take a major hit when you do video. It doesn't really do that now. So that's nice. But I still, everyone's while I'm like, all right, let's see what everyone else is doing. And I always compare. And at least as of November 14th, 2024, Discord, I still say as the best audio codec. I've tried going back to Skype, it's worthless. They don't update it. It's crap.

Least laggy for the two of us, which is so important because we feed off of each other's energies and jokes and stuff like that. And having lag and a constant like, oh, you're talking. Okay. Oh, nope, you're talking. It's the worst. It can be the worst, especially for a-addening. Yeah, for a show like this. And maddening to host. Exactly.

Then I tried Zoom again just to see how they were doing. They still don't give away to adjust volume and it still sounds like shit. So I don't use them. I'm just using what's best right now. How is it possible? Like, how is it possible? They don't have a way to do volume levels yet. It seems like the most, like, here's what you need to start.

Yeah. Like, you build a house, well, we have to put a door in the front. Yep. No, it's rudimentary. Rudimentary they should have it. It should be built in from day one. They've never had it. They still don't have it.

It's so stupid. And I understand that they have use cases that are mostly like, hey, there are 300 people in a class. people have to raise their hand to speak you're not worried about quality of audio but you still got to worry about volume of audio you still got to worry about like can i hear sally jane over in indiana who can we can barely hear you can you turn up your shit so now she's got to go fiddle with her settings instead of me just being able to drag it you know what i'm saying like all that stuff sucks yeah yeah so if you guys know of a better way i'm happy to hear it uh jury thinks i should use um called something street it's kind of um what's the one that tom tom uses one and i forgot the name of it oh it doesn't use he doesn't use microsoft teams anymore or microsoft uh no it's called spaces or something we pull up chrome because that's where i run it wing street tom de casta says isn't that the place that sells wings it's definitely not that uh and it's not

stream yard oh tom uses oh tom uses stream yard yeah jury uses something kind of like it and so It actually seems pretty good, but it's also a little expensive. I don't know. I may dabble, but I'm just saying, we're always on the look, Jeff. We don't just settle, okay? No, no. If we can find a better way to sound to you, then by golly, we're going to do it. We're going to do it.

And we're going to make you guys pay for it. That's right. We're making Canada pay for it. We're going to build a better system and make Canada pay for it. All right. Well, let's get to some news. It's time to share with the world what's going on. And thankfully, it's the kind of news you guys aren't.

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Oh. And it, but it uses the new card. Shoot, what is the new card? New card. He uses one of the new cards, basically. Here it is. It uses Frigga and Toxin. So what's that do?

I'm sorry, no, just Frigua. What's the math part? Just like a bunch of duplicate. That I do the math, like, to figure out as I'm dropping cards, which one is the one that I want to use Friga on, because Friga adds a copy of the last card you play to your hands. So if I can, and I've gotten death down to where she costs zero to play, then I'll play death, and then I'll play Frigga and get another copy of Frigga,

and then play that one there, too. I love the name Frigga. Frigua. That's great. It's Thor's Mom. It sure is. Played by Lady from Gladiator. Isn't it Gladiator Lady?

No, not her. Oh, no, no. Renee Russo's, uh, who am I, who am I thinking of? Why am I mixing those two up? You're thinking of, uh, the lady from Gladiator who's in Gladiator 2, the only person. Oh, you know what? I'm thinking, uh, that's Wonder Woman's mom. That's what I'm doing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I knew there were some superhero connection, just wrong franchise. Connie, Connie Nielsen. That's her. She's great. She is great. That is a woman who is, she'll be 90 and be attractive. I don't know what's going on there. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful lady.

She's very, very attractive. And I'm watching, it's funny. Well, I told you I would do it, so I guess I'm not a surprise. I'm watching Gladiator right now. About half an hour at a time as I go to sleep, so it'll take me a week to watch it. But I'm watching it in preparation for Gladiator 2. Nice. Tina not watching the first one with you?

No. Not into it? She doesn't care. She doesn't care. Are you seeing it? Still trying to get over the fact that I didn't get wicked tickets for opening night instead of Gladiator two tickets. anytime anytime something comes on for wicked she just folds her shoulder her folds her arms and looks at me like we're seeing an opening weekend teen we're seeing it on

sunday we're just not saying it on Thursday night it'll all be fine we'll be fine we'll see both movies not weekend is that this weekend or next weekend is the next weekend okay both movies come out one week from today are you to the part where he yells are you not entertained have you gotten that far? I've already passed that. Okay. Yeah, that happens a lot earlier in the movie than I was remembering. There's so much of this movie I don't remember.

Yeah. So I'm really glad because I only saw it the one time in the theaters back in 90, whatever. Oh, I love that movie so much. What year did you come out, Scott? Two thousand, I believe. 2000. 2000, okay. I think.

Let's confirm that I am not smoking crack here. Gladiator. The crock or the crock or the crock. Let's see, gladiator. 2000 film by Ridley Scott. Ding. Well done. See, there you go.

I'm pretty good with me. years um yeah i'm pretty excited about that new one so um i'm too yeah you're gonna have to lives up i like that you know i hear that pedro pascal guy's pretty good people like him good at stuff they like him i hear denzil washington is chewing at the place apart in his role he is really oh cool so excited to see what he does he let slip that um there will be a black panther three no surprise there but that cougler is writing apart for him oh what do you think it is with your knowledge of oh see that's that i don't know um because my extent of all of like the side characters of like oh yoke and baku and all that got covered in the first movie so i don't know any of the other

if it's going to be another wakandan character i i they reach the extent of my black panther knowledge with the first movie gotcha well i'm i'm super curious about that because i don't know about you guys i've always i've liked nzel since day one since saying elsewhere but absolutely yeah i there's something about his older career that is really intriguing and i can't put my finger on it there's kind of a wild an unexpected quality to it i don't know what it is but i love it was the movie where he's the pilot flight is that the one where he's a pilot had something to drink before a shift he was not expecting that he called onto and he still flew and oh right there's all these problems not the one I think that's called flight.

Is it flight? Zemeckis movie, right? No, no, no. I'm thinking of the one where, or maybe it is a Zemechus movie. Zemechus was the Hanks one about Sully, wasn't it? Oh, maybe that's something I'm thinking of. Yeah, but people are confirming it as flight.

Okay. I don't think I've seen flight. Which is funny because flight can also mean a, you know, a range of drinks, like a flight of beers. Oh, I had never heard that. It's like a murder of crows, but a flight of beers. I like that. Yeah, but it's more specifically sample size.

So, I'd like to try all of your IPAs. Great, we'll bring you a flight, and there'll be a little 8 to 10 ounce pours of all of their IPAs, and you just try each of them. Oh, I knew I wasn't going crazy. That's also Zemeckis. A flight of whiskeys. That Zemeckis also. He did both those movies. It also was Zemechis, too?

Yeah, they were like, hey, I want to do two of these in a row. I want to make two flight movies. Can we do it? And everyone said, yes, Robert Zemeckis, you can do anything you want. No, no. Sully was Eastwood. Oh, I've fixed those up so bad. Yeah. I did, too.

I thought, when you said Zemeckis, I thought that was the one. I've completely screwed that up. Yeah. But I can guess on flights here, uh, 2013. Let me look it up. Ah, I was off a year, 2012. That's close. Impressive, though.

That's close. I knew it was around that zone there. Uh, all right. Let's get to this story here. Oh, this is a perfect transition because this is a story about, It's perfect. Totally unplanned, too. Yeah, we didn't mean to do this. It's magic on a Thursday.

Anyway, this is from Jay sent this in, so I want to give some credit for sending me this story. Flight attendant grazed while Gunfire hits a Spirit flight. Yeah. And it's not just because people hate Spirit, although they do. It might as well be, but in this case, it was Haiti. Yeah, it was Haiti who did it. A flight attendant was grazed by a bullet when the Spirit Airlines A320

was hit by Gunfire as it was about to land at a Port of Prince Tuissant Louvre? I don't know how to say The Tucson Love Here Airport Ports of Laudson Louvrejo

Man the French really smeared their stain All over that place Didn't they? They just, you know As French colonies go Haiti really just got the brunt of the naming and stuff

They just everything got named Yeah Anyway this happened on Monday morning The flight It originated in Fort Lauderdale, Florida And took multiple bullets piercing the fuselage is not clear whether the flight attendant was hit

but the injuries were reported minor no passengers were hit the crew did go a round and headed to a nearby Santiago in the Dominican Republic for an uneventful landing other airlines canceled flights to Haiti on Monday and Spirit said it's suspending all flights to the strife torn nation

there's also some other airline reported that the entirety of their flights are canceled nobody can go there right now really? Spirit is just down. No more spirit in the sky for a little while. And it really could be any

this is the other problems. It could be a guy going woohoo bang bang bang bang and it just happened to be bad timing. They don't know. I saw the photos of the interior or video of the interior of that plane and it's amazing that nobody was hit because it came through the big thick door. Yeah. Or right

next to the big thick door and then you see holes through the a couple of the overhead bins which means they passed through the fuselage and through the the outside of the bin, like really puncturing the crap out of it. That's scary.

It is really scary. And the fact that just one person got grazed is amazing. I guess it's because there was nobody on the spirit flight because it's a spirit flight. Because it's spirit and everybody hates them. I tried spirit once. Look that big mustard airplane. It's nasty. It's so bad.

And what is it like the little words they put on the wings and the tail tips and stuff? Yeah. Howdy there? Something like that. World of the of the. Fair, fair, it says on this one. That's lame. Yeah, what does it say on the tip of that wing, though, the folded up part of the wing?

Can you zoom in on that? I'm going to, I'm going to zoom and enhance. Hold on. Okay. Zoom, enhance. There we go. I'm going to go way down here. I'm going to move it up here.

I may not have the enhanced part. Oh, it's just spirit.com. But there's another, there's like another one where the tip says something like, hi there. Maybe it's on the inside of that wing tip, because when you're on the plane, you look out at it. Oh, okay. Could be. I've never been on a spirit. I just hear nightmares.

I went to Vegas because it was like $69 round trip for the bear fare, right? Yeah. And I'm like, cool. I'm going to go one day. I'm going to put a clean pair of underwear in my left pocket. I'm going to put toothpaste and toothbrush in my right pocket. I wore a jacket or I wore a bowback's vest. Yeah.

If you're familiar with bobacks, it's like a bazillion pockets. Yeah, yeah. And I like those. I'm a fan. It basically was just like all I took was the things I, absolutely, quote unquote, bare necessities and did that $69 round trip. And it was still, there were so many delays of getting on the plane, so many delays before it took off, coming back was a pain in the butt.

I swore, even at that price, I would never, ever do it again. Yeah. I like that you were your own carry-on bag, basically. I was. 100%. That's great. Because if you, even if you bring something, like a little tiny sack that's going to go under the seat in front of you or above you or something like that, basically I had my

iPad in my hand, I had, oh, I didn't take my CPAP on that trip. So it must have been really early on, because it was before I really needed the CPAP. Gotcha. Wow, that's wild. That makes me want to try that, using a big full jacket of stuff instead of a bag. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just want to try it.

Does that mean you just have to put the full vest out on the thing and ran it through like a bag? Yeah, yeah, which back then you did anyway. It was, uh, I don't think I had. TSA pre-checked before that anyway, so, and I always, you know, back then I would always take my jacket off and, um, uh, shoes and put them in the same bin and just walk through. That recent trip to Santa Ana, they made, on the way out, they made me do the belt on the way in, no belt. Mm-hmm.

It seems like no. And you don't do TSA pre-check, though, right? No, although. You don't fly enough to make that. No, it's just not worth it. Well, I don't know, 80 bucks a year is really not that bad. I should just do it. 80 bucks for five years.

It's not even 80 bucks a year. It's like 80 bucks for five years. Oh, I'm doing it then. This is dumb. It's even cheaper than you realize. And the background checks easy, right? They just do it and you're done. Yeah, it takes two minutes.

Basically, like, do all the stuff online and then whatever your next flight is, if it's Vegas in April or whatever, go to the airport half an hour early and just go and say, you schedule your time, but schedule it for right before your next flight. Go take care of it and you're done. It really takes five minutes. What an easy. What a boring background check I have, dude. So really, yeah.

Oh, exactly. Like, what are they going to do? Oh, he's got one traffic ticket that happened to block from his house in 2014. That's never any others. He's never been in an accident. He's never stole anything. Never fired from a job. Although now he's a podcaster.

I went to jail and it still took five minutes to do my background check. That's true. That's nothing. But you were a minor then, right? you were just I was uh yeah it was a minor I was I was not old enough to drink but I was old enough to to go to jail for impeding trap well for not showing up to court for a traffic ticket for an impeding traffic ticket youth what do you do go to court kids you get a ticket and you don't pay for it you got to go to court on the day they tell you yeah it turns out they don't like that

when you don't show up they're not fans and then and then and then they just waived it when I did finally go to court after the half a day in jail they waived it anyway way. I showed up to court. He's like, you were impeding traffic, but it's like during Russia. I was like 5.30 on a Tuesday. I'm like, yeah. He says, yeah, no. Here you go. Yeah, it's pretty great, though. No points, no money. Yeah. But you did have that experience, which made you never want to go there again, right? It really did. Yes. Scared straight is what I was. Oh, nice. Did I have a room? So I needed to know, I needed to know this part. Was it like a holding cell with a whole bunch of hairy men sitting around? And then there was a toilet in the corner, like an actual

bathroom built in the thing? I don't remember there being a toilet in the room like basically during the processing they brought me in I was in one room with a bunch of guys and then and then they took photos and stuff

and then moved me to a second room and it was in the second room that I got a paper bag with a sandwich and an apple in it and then but I don't remember a toilet in either of those rooms. There might have been one but I think if somebody would have used the toilet I would have remembered there being one Oh, you would have definitely remembered.

Or if somebody would have not used the toilet. I would remember they're not being a toilet. Yeah, good point. Good point. All right, well, there you go. And then from there, it just basically took me to my own cell, and I could sit there and watch people trade their apples for cigarettes. Like you're rolling them back and forth underneath the little hole that you had in the door.

Nice. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you're going to get nudes from women who like bad boys now. it's going to happen you're like he was in prison no way well I better start drawing a

tattoo right by my junk with a sharpie so I can send him something back Bo you've got a pretty face here take my sandwich and apple probably not an anchor that says mom that probably is bad optics

no you don't want that in a photo no you don't want that at all quick story here about Mattel and a big goof speaking of wicked sure speaking of wicked Yeah, Tina just folded her arms and looked at me. Yeah, she sure did.

Mattel's Wicked Dolls mistakenly list adult film website on the packaging. Oh, no. This means two things. One, they've apologized and recalled what they can and they're reprinting, but it also means anybody lucky enough to get them now has a very expensive collectible. So, congratulations to you. The fact that's got the adult link on the packaging means that your version of this Barbie doll thing is worth a whole lot more money now.

So good job. Jeez. Way to not check. Somebody just said, I assume that this website will be Wicked.com because what an easy site, website to get 40 years ago

when URL became available or 50 years ago or whatever. Very weird. Very weird. Packaging for Mattel's Wicked Dolls mistakenly list the URLs and a total entertainment site instead of the official domain for the film.

Wicked, the new theatrical adaptation of the hit Broadway musical. to open in theaters worldwide. We know about all that. It says here, let's see, the Glinda and Effabella, F. HALBA.

Elfaba. I don't know how this goes. Elfaba. She's the wicked witch of the West. She's the wicked witch of the West, yeah. And my breasts are defying gravity. See, you know all the, I don't know any of the shit.

I know all the wicked songs. I don't know any wicked stuff. It's good stuff. I mean, sure, sure, sure. No problem with it. I just haven't been exposed. Anyway, Start and sale, some fans have spotted a major air in the packaging.

The back of the Mattel Dawes package shows Wicked.com. The issue is that domain belongs to an adult entertainment site, not the film's official thing. So my guess is an artist put that in there as a holder, thinking that was perfectly fine. Or, or it's somebody, you know, he's a little bit of disgruntled, a little... A former, like, last day on the job. Oh, they're firing me after I design these, this action figure packaging or doll packaging. Like the Disney guys, the animators who would put little like quick glimpse of a boob or something in a scene. Yeah, right, right.

Something like that. The, was it the Little Mermaid that had the, um, the weaners? The little hidden penis and the, uh, the castle. Yeah, I have that, but I have that VHS tape someplace. And I also have a version that they replaced it with and it got rid of all of the suggestive stuff. 100% that stuff was put in their own purpose. I am, there's no way it was by accident. I think Snopes calls that one.

unreal like some confirmation that somebody did that on purpose but i have it somewhere and it's got multiple things it isn't just that it shows all these like phallic shapes in the castle thing there's also what looks like the prince what's his name behind a rock with his hand down here like exposing himself and then ariel's going looking down his crotch and going ah like that oh my gosh i'd have to find it it's pretty great someone in the chat find that image i'll have to share it around anyway so they're going to fix it let's see

I completely forgotten that it's Elfaba as in L. Frank Baum, the writer of Wizard of Oz Oh really? I didn't know that. Yeah, Elphaba. By the way so here, let me ask you a question.

Yeah. First Wizard of Oz Dorothy bongs her head during a tornado wakes up oh I had the most wonderful dream and you were there and you were there and you were there, IDM? Was Oz a dream? And if so, why are there movies of Oz without Dorothy?

Oh, that's a great question, isn't it? Yeah. Why are there books where Oz has all these other things going on if Dorothy's not involved? No mention of Dorothy in the dream. That's a great question. Do hardcore fans get... What's the word I'm looking for? Is that a thing you guys even think about,

like those kind of continuity errors? You're so into it. Yeah, I'd be curious about that. I'd be curious about stuff like that. Oh, I do all the time. Yeah, Jeannie says they're the Oz books and not the Dorothy books. Then again, my question is, then people are totally gaslighting Dorothy about all being a dream.

Yeah. And they're like, oh, you silly girl. That was just a dream. I mean, I guess in the second movie, in return to Oz, Andy M is like taking her to get shock treatments and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Yeah, I don't know anything about the books or any of the origin stuff. So I wonder how, like, this wicked thing is that based on, that's all new information, right? That was like written for the play, the prequelness. Right, that was not written by L. Frank Baum, but it was, the play was written, like, additionally to, to give you a different perspective on the Wicked Witch. Right, right. She's actually a really, really good person. everybody else is a shit yeah everyone else sucks a wizard is a shit oh all right well i've got a i've got a heart that i'm going to be giving it's a very nice heart i mean he giving it to the

uh the tin woodsman woodsman we love we we love carrying the axe he's carrying the axe he's chopping the wood yeah you are you are gonna have a yellow brick road he he's in this right he's the he's the wizard in this one he's the wizard in this one okay yeah and he's a bad guy. Well, now you're making me want to see this. You should. I mean, if it's as good as the play, the play is fantastic and the music is great. So if you see the, you know, if the movie is as good as the play, then it'll be really, really good. All right. Did they have the did do, do that, and the monkeys flying and all that? No. And the movie actually shows you, like, you get a brief glimpse of Dorothy and the gang, Dorothy and the rest, walking down the yellow brick road from the back. But

the play doesn't talk about Dorothy at all I think it ends with Dorothy arriving in Oz maybe oh man I don't remember how the play ended if there was some overlap between the two like if

you get your Wicked and then a little bit of Dorothy overlap and sure somebody maybe can tell me yeah Monica made a good point too about the books aren't in music obviously, but the rest of the, all of these are musicals. Like some people are like, I don't want to see Wicked, it's a musical. I'm like, well, Wizard of Oz was a musical. I think people

forget, or they just put it in a different category or something. Totally, totally. They don't, I mean, those songs have become so ingrained in our heads. If I only had a brain, that do you don't think that it's a musical. I saw a lollipop guild in World Warcraft the other day. Somebody had lollipop in their guild name. I thought that was great. And we were still up on you too, Munchkin land. And the guy was a dwarf. He was a little dude.

Perfect. For all I know, that's a guild full of dwarves and gnomes and, you know, goblins or something. I don't know. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister, Wendy, will be here. She's got a little surprise topic.

I don't know what we're doing. So you're going to find out when Brian and I find out. It's a little unusual. Yeah, I'm a little nervous, too. But we'll find out what's going on there right after this. quick shout out to iCore by the way happy birthday i see he's in the chat now and someone earlier said this is birthday today so we we hope you're having a good one uh that may happen later again i don't know hey brian let's play a song in the middle of the show here what do you got well earshot media

sent this one to me and they sent the four words that just make me immediately excited about listening to the music uh this is los angeles power pop punk rock five piece power pop punk rock oh my gosh yes um this is a band called foreclosure but it's spelled F-O-R space C-L-O-S-U-R-E like as if you took the E in foreclosure and replaced it with a space, folks. Wow.

A space, folks. Come, come, come. Come on. And guess what? And by the way, this is from their brand new LP called Cliffside Serenades. They're about to go on tour

with Junior Juggernaut. So if you like those guys, I'm the juggernaut, bitch. Then go check them out. But the band is called Foreclosure. Here is their song. It's called One More Day. Life goes on

The family is his own Well, here we go again The loss of another friend Is goodbye Life, eyes like the skies begin to cry As life goes on The Bentley is your song As life goes on

The Bentley is your soul One more day One more day One more day One more day Just one more day Just one more day Just one more day

Just one more day Just one more day Just one more day Just one more day So I really want to watch Westworld world, but the only thing my partner wants to watch is goddamn Fuller House. And we return. Tell me about that song one more time. Sure, that's the band Foreclosure, and a Los Angeles power pop punk rock five piece.

Right there. That's no more room for anything else on their business cards. That's from their brand new album, Cliffside Serenades, and it's a song called One More Day. Is that how you say, if there's a band with five people, you say a five piece? A five piece. Okay. I've never heard that before. So if you have four, you can say a four piece or three? You could say a four piece. It actually goes, it works for all the numbers. Okay.

So maybe not a one piece. You'd say a solo act. Yeah, in that case, you'd say it's an anime. Let's see. It's a one piece, man. Beatles had four. Did anyone ever call them a four piece? They called them the fab four, which was shorter.

That's good enough, yeah. Worked better for them. Sure. Anyone checked in on them lately? We still have a healthy remaining pair. Still, Paul and Ringo, still doing all right. But hopefully they continue. And us mentioning them doesn't, nothing happens.

Peace and love, peace and love. I'm watching the 16th season right now of Taskmaster. because I always do a binge watch as I prepare for TMS Vegas for obvious reasons. And there's a guy on there, Sam, he's an Australian comedian, Sam something, Water, Sam, not Sam, Waterston. Anyway, I told Tina, we were looking at him, and I said, he looks like if you took all four Beatles and jam them together. Oh, my Lord, I need to see this. uh sam campbell there we go let's see here let me find a photo of him for you he's like a famous comedian over there uh yes

it's a great picture all right here you go let's see if this one doesn't i'll put in our discord cool let's see oh yeah yeah and then the oasis guys just for just for his little sprinkling oh my gosh he is like yeah it's like 19 like just enter just exited the 60s entering the 70s Betel's Umalgamation. That's crazy. So he's a stand-up.

Yeah, look at that. He's a... He's a stand-up. Apparently, he's a big stand-up over there. He's a little tiny dude. Oh, man. Some of these other photos of him. Yeah, he's a...

He's all the Beatles. He's all four Beatles. I love this. Look at this one, chat. This is even better. Yes, right. It's like... Does that not look like him?

There is some George Harrison in that face. there's absolutely the eyes are Paul McCartney's eyes. Yep, 100% his eyes. I think that's like Ringo's mouth, maybe a little George, George Hare for sure. George Hare, yep. Oh my gosh, that's funny. A little John Lennon in there as well, give him a set of round glasses and he's John Lennon. So wait a minute, is he competing? Is he competing? He's one of the contestants and he's, he is hilarious. It is such a, boy, season 16 is a really good cast. I say that every time, but there's a guy named Julian on there who

let's see if I can find his last name he's I don't know if I've seen him in anything else but I freaking love him Julian Clary nice it's the show that's on somebody told me they put them all up on YouTube now for free is that true yes yes you can watch all the taskmasters

on on YouTube but don't because it might give you an idea you might if you watch all 3,000 tasks that have been completed you might figure out which one I'm going to do for you. Oh, I don't want to do that. I want to know. Yeah, I'm not watching that. Yeah, you won't. You won't know. Okay. All right. I like being surprised at that thing. Yes. Yeah. We have on the line with us, uh, somebody who gets a little intro. Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage.

She's also somebody I'm related to. She's my sister. Like 100% my sister. I like these Koreans that we have around here, right? The half. Or that other brother. He's only a half. He's only a half brother, but Wendy and I share the exact DNA profile of true siblings. Yikes. I know. So if you're profiling, it saved you a lot of the trouble. We sure did. Just kidding.

We love everybody. We love the diversity of our family. But it's always fun to have Wendy on. Been a couple of weeks. Wendy. We've missed you. Yeah, we've missed you. I've missed you guys.

Wait, did we miss you last week? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it was probably good that we took a week. Took a week? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't know. It's hard to say, but here's the funny thing about today.

We all needed to process and heal last week. A little bit, for sure. I don't know. I think I still have a big old scab that keeps bleeding, but still. Yeah, it's, yeah. But Wendy, here's the thing I was going to say, oh, the standard disclaimer, Wendy, for those who are maybe new to this segment, she's an actual therapist, helps people all the time with real problems,

and then she comes on here, slums it with us, and helps you with yours. Usually we have an email or something like that to get things started off. But today we're starting purely at a mystery window with Wendy's face in it. We don't know what's coming. We don't know what's up. But Wendy, I am going to share with you something. I don't know if you can see this on Discord, but I can share with you. There you go.

That's video of us. So you can see us react if you need to. All right. Oh, why? Okay. You don't have to send us any. But so like there's Brian full screen. There's me full screen.

There's both of us. So while you're crying, we'll have something to look at. Sure. Great. Exactly. All right. So let's go down. whatever road you want to oh wait sorry before you do sorry I'm all over the place I got a message

as a follow-up I wanted to give you where is it it is oh cool like a follow-up for somebody's uh yeah it was just like a separate thing um that I meant to put in here let me just paste it in real quick and I totally forgot last night um here we go so this will be a nice little start Scott Breyan and Wendy all spelled wrong on Wendy's good on Wendy's segment you're all talking about Wendy's sister-in-law being at butt level in the wheelchair smelling farts. Remember that? Do you remember that story that you told us? Okay. It says, well, my wife thinks it's the most hilarious thing ever to fart while we're out in public. One day, well, she sounds like a real catch. I'm glad you hold on to her for your life. One is a keeper. One day, one day a few years back,

we were getting groceries. I hear an absolute ripper and I turn around to see my wife looking at me with an expectant smile on her face. She failed to realize there was an older gentleman in a rascal right behind her. There's a little four-wheeler's. The mortified face told her everything as she turned around to see this man staring at her with hatred. I will never let her live it down. Her situational awareness is now stellar. Ha-ha.

Side note, you really should visit the great Minnesota get-together and also maybe a Minnesota meetup. Love the show, though. Or lerve the show, though. Yeah, I just thought you'd like a little. follow-up on that. Oh my gosh. That was not the energy I was ready to have to come into this. No. No, but it's a nice light appetizer for whatever hearty meal you brought. I want to know, can you shoot me and let me know who that is? Do they come to TMS Vegas? Oh, I don't know. I could find, I could try to find a name. I don't think they...

Because I am not walking through the casino. Always stand near this person if you are in front of. I'm going to walk in front of them anytime we're walking anywhere. Anytime his wife smiles. You know, what's going on with her. I'm hilarious. Well, anyway, so now that we've had our light moment, let's dive into whatever, however Wendy wants to handle the rest of today's segment. Yes. Okay.

Well, I'm going to, I'm not going to give full names, man. I'm getting first names of two people that inspired my response today. All right. And they all know who they are and they listen. So I want to thank Jeff and I want to thank Matthew. So thank you, you too. All right. I'm stealing everything I'm talking about today from various sources.

So none of this is original, obviously. but is anything original? Anyway, so a couple quick thoughts. Number one is it's been a week and one of the things that is interesting. You guys should ask your wives this. There's this thing, I think it was on BuzzFeed or something going around and somebody on TikTok's just asking all these women like, hey, did you have any experience in the middle of the night on election night?

or kind of this idea of like you had this, you didn't know who won. I went to bed not knowing because I can't. I needed to sleep and I had a long day the next day. We did the same. Brian went something to Brian even did better. He goes to a movie with his wife, ignores all of it, goes to bed. You were the smart one, dude. I knew a little going to bed, but I was also trying to do this.

I think we were all kind of in the same boat. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, just the amount of people describing the, like, wake up gasping in the night or in the morning and just knowing and being, you know, really sad about it. And I would say, you know, there's a lot of feelings, a lot of people having their different responses. I have been happy to report that all of my, all the people I know who voted for Trump are being very quiet. Not gloating. For me.

Yeah. I don't know how they're behaving online or if they're sending racist tweets. I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. But I have had friends have some direct interactions with folks who are having really terrible responses and experiences. And most of my clients, I'm telling you, if you're going to pick a week not to be a therapist, it was last week. That was not. I'm sure.

Yeah. Not an easy week. And a big thing kept emerging. So two things emerge. So what I want to do is I want to talk about. some things that apply to everybody. Okay. And processes we all, we do, we're all guilty of.

We're all because we're human and a way to sort of, a way through towards some light. That's my goal. The arch of today is hope in the end. But I think there's some importance in understanding a couple things that have happened. And so I'm just going to share from my perspective what it's like sitting was what it was like sitting in my desk at my desk, right? I really should have taken the day off. That would have been smarter. But, you know, people needed me.

Number one, in case anyone is wondering about the price of eggs, there was massive bird flu at a couple facilities, and they had to slaughter over a million, two million birds. So when your price of eggs went up, I just want you to know. There's a reason. That was one of my clients. He's like screaming this to me. Like, people think the price of eggs have anything to do with the president,

you know, stuff like that. Anyway, so it was national. after session, listening to people's various, you know, a lot of shock, a lot of concern, you know, folks who work for the EPA and environmental protection stuff and people who work for, yeah, national security, yeah, just lots of people who's my, one of my best friends's job was literally hanging by a thread because she helps refugees from other countries establish care and life here when they get here. So her job might be gone. You know, stuff like that. So it's a lot of potential loss and fear and stress and not knowing,

blah, blah, blah. So that was my main day. I had a couple people who didn't even seem to notice anything had happened. So there was that. And then they were blissfully unaware, I guess. I'm not really sure. But another thing, and this is the one I want to focus on a little bit, is that how triggering the first time, oh, by the way, I call him Voldemort, so that's what he'll be referred to from now on. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. So the first time Voldemort won, We should acknowledge, by the way, just quick acknowledgement. Sorry, to cut you off. But I know that there are people listening to this show who continue to listen,

who have always listened, who are probably thrilled that this dude won again. We know that, okay? We know that we're not. I just want to acknowledge them. We know you're here. If you're listening, great. Maybe you'll, maybe this will be good or maybe it won't be for you. I don't know.

But I know you're there. All right. I know you're there. That's all I wanted to say. Okay. And actually, I appreciate that because that is actually who this is for. Probably more than anybody. If we had talked last week, I would have probably focused more on people who were sad.

Yeah. Meaning, like, hey, take care of yourself. It's okay to feel like you want to go inward. It's okay. You don't want to talk to anybody, you know, take care of yourself, that kind of thing. I think that message got out a lot in the last week, I think, among people. Sure. And I would have focused on that a little bit differently and just given lots of people permission to, like, take your time and figuring out how you feel about stuff and what you need to do going through.

forward. And I would advise everyone to turn off the internet at their house. That's what I would have advised. Okay. So that would have been last week. This week, though, it really is. So I appreciate that, Scott, because I think, um, and, and this is very both sides because of humans. And you'll see as I get going here. Um, but let me just start with last, you know, when Voldemort won the first time, I spent hour after hour after hour with people who had been sexually assaulted or had been in relationships with abusive or narcissistic partners. Voldemort is an incredibly triggering figure for people who have been through hard things of those natures because he was accused of those things and now has been convicted

of those things. And that is terrifying to folks who have that vulnerability and that wound. So I want to just describe this first. I would love anyone listening. I don't care at this point who you voted for that is irrelevant to me but that you need to understand

this piece about people I think would be really valuable because what happens is when I share that these women especially mostly women are triggered by Voldemort there is a

defensiveness that comes people have a defensiveness right they vote for him they're a fan of his quote unquote quote, policies, there's sort of this, like, something happens inside of them. Now, if you're a big fan of Kamala and someone ripped on her, you probably have the same reaction, right? There's something that occurs in us that defends this person where, you know, our teammate or

the person we see is our guy or gal or whatever, right? Okay. So then for folks who are, like, really aware of this, you just think, are you a monster that you would defend someone like that who is triggering all these people. So I just want to explain a little what's happening there. And then I'm going to get into how this applies to all of us. Okay. So when someone is victimized, especially as a young person,

so we could take a child in any case, a child is neglected, abused in any way, sexually, physically, emotionally, what happens is your home becomes really unsafe. There is nowhere to go. You are a child. And that adults around you who are supposed to protect you or stop this from happening or believe you sometimes are the abusers or sometimes they are defending the abusers. And they'll say things like, well, we don't want to ruin that young man's life. So we're not going to talk about that in this family. Or whatever those things may be, they have created an environment where it is not safe.

You will not be safe. So as a victim of any of these things, you have to learn how to survive that very core instability that adults or people aren't necessarily going to save you. And maybe a few here or there are safe, but the people who should be safe or not, right? So when something like when a convicted felon and a serial rapist, whatever, becomes president of the United States and you find out, you know, all these people voted for him and that's how he won. And you walk around your community and you don't know who voted or who didn't, which is why you'll see online people trying to signify to each other, like white ladies wearing blue bracelets like, I'm a Democrat, even though I look like a white lady, you know, or whatever. Like that is the signaling of I'm safe. So notice that's that's been a lot of the conversations of like, how do I know if I feel safe? And so that is what has happened to a lot of folks is that when you're very core sort of moral standings or belief about who should be on your team, they're violated.

And the other team is like, this guy's awesome. And do not understand. Don't seem to be able to conjure the compassion. In fact, just kind of make fun of people. I just want to put in there that what we're ultimately seeing is, is that what's become unsafe is somebody's home again, not sure who is responsible or would help. And that may not seem super rational

because it's not, it's unconscious, it's very deep level, it's very, and when you hear people saying they're scared or they're afraid, it has a lot to do with the sort of instability that this represents to tons of marginalized people and tons of people who have been victimized. And so to come at it with, you know, mocking somebody or thinking they're stupid for feeling that way or he's not so bad or, oh, he's all bluster, you'll see, he'll do great things and the price of eggs will go down. In essence, you're trying to talk to a little child in there potentially who believe adults, quote unquote, adults don't care.

Or they care more about protecting their team or money or power or whatever that thing may be. Okay, so I'm hoping that can at least conjure a little compassion for folks who feel like they don't get why someone is heartbroken here or scared. And the question is, so what's happening to, and I'm going to call them the casual Trump supporter, when you bring up, well, what about a convicted felon? That's not a problem for you? It's like, no. And you're sort of like trying to understand that. So that's been something I've tried for this last week is just to really try to understand that. Let me give you a, can I give you a quick example of what I think I experienced with this?

And this is just a small thing. And I won't even say who it is. I'll just, you know, I don't want to be too specific here. But there's somebody in our lives who most of the time, the many decades that we've known this person, they're one of the kindest, most generous, very charity-driven, always helping people. in need thinking of other people first like it's his this person's actions are always out front and it's and he's quiet about it and isn't somebody who's bragging about it at all just does nice things for people and then we hear it through somebody else and go oh man he

really did that or and he sacrifices a lot for other people right but it's also the same human being that when questioned about Voldemort's paying of paying off of a porn star to keep quiet. And this is a person who considers themselves very spiritual, very, you know, trying to walk, quote, unquote, a very righteous path, that sort of thing. Their sort of defensive answer to that was, well, we don't know if that was tax money or not. And in my mind, and in the, again, I don't want to get specific, but in our minds, we were just like, wait a minute, that's not the point.

yeah well you and you should point but it is not the point but they would they they they of all people i know in my life should know the point and they and they their defensive mechanisms have have made less of that to serve the other the other narrative they're living which is well which side is anti-abortion or which side matches up with my belief systems or whatever the most anyway and at least in their mind or at least what they've told they match up with. And then they then, so they, then they can scoge this stuff out of the way that absolutely does not match their value system, or at least their stated value system. And they let it slide. And coming from this one particular person was shocking, was like, like seismically shocking.

We were like, could not believe it. It has forever changed the way I think about the way this person thinks. And it's not that I'm holding them some kind of perfect standard. It's just that that that is not a thing they would ever say in any other context except this case where their perceived team has won and therefore this is all acceptable because it's more the winning is more important than the other stuff right yes and and i'm going to show you psychologically how this works and then you're going to see that we all do it and we all do it in different directions and different ways and we all think we're better than the other people doing it their way because you're right that that is a wild thing to ever happen um but you know we have a long long recorded history of people's sort of the the hypocrisy that just is inherent often in humanity right recently there's been a lot of supporting events uh that afterwards sort of coaches are a little less they're a little less willing to say well we did our best and now

they're saying they were robbed. This is happening sort of a little more frequently, right? And the truth is there's always a bad call and they are robbed. And yet that's always been the case. And this is, the newness is sort of, we're not going to do good sportsmanship sort of stuff anymore. And I get it. They're angry, right? And they lost the championship or they lost the thing. And some of it again is my favorite version of this was the WMBA. So the game when the Liberty lost, the coach went off about how bad the refereeing was. And then when they won the championship, they said the refereeing was good. And then the Lynx coach was like, we were 100% wrong.

And that is exactly what's happening. Right. This is how humans work. So, Scott, I sent you an image to put up for everybody. Yep. All ready for this. I'll put it up now. There you go.

You should see it too. Right. There you go. Everyone make this big on your screen because I'm going to need you to interact with this. So this is what's called the corn sweet effect. Sorry about the resolution. Wendy sent me like postage stamp size GPEG.

I had to blow it up. Sorry. You can Google it too. A clip from Lonmore Man, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can Google it real quick if you need a bigger image. But generally look at this picture and you guys just describe quickly what you see. I see what Brian saw earlier.

What were you going to say? Brian, go ahead. It looks like it's an Apple AirPods case that somebody's painted the lid gray and it's open in front of a a repeating 3D background with a blue sky behind it. Yeah, it's very... And like a Minecraft floor. Yeah, it had a very... My original reaction was very similar,

but just they looked like an Apple product. But the more I looked at it, given that the, they are two different colors, I see... Do you remember the mom used to call them, what she call them? Illness gum or something? Anyway, mom, mom, like chicklets.

Yeah, they were basically chicklets, but she called them. She only gave them to us if we were feeling nauseous. She's like, oh, we eat these. These are great for you. I don't know what she was thinking there. They were just peppermint, but. So it looked like those. This looks like those.

Maybe we got a, we got a licorice flavor on top and you got your regular bit on the bottom. Okay, perfect. All right. So hopefully whoever's hearing this, now has a visual and or really need to see it yourself so you can do this next part. Okay. So what I want you do is take your finger. This is why it's actually small because your fingers aren't that big, people.

But I want you take your finger and put it horizontally right in the middle. Okay, got it. Okay. So what happened? It's now one solid eye. It's all one solid thing. It's all gray, the same color gray. Yeah.

What? It's the shadow. Is it the blue dress or is it white? Exactly. Green needle or is it? Yeah. It's a shadow. So it's called the corn sweet effect.

And what has happened here? and the horizon makes a difference. So everybody has in their mind where the sun is coming and lighting it up, right? Guess what filled in all the blanks? Well, your unconscious brain wanted to see what is seeing

and it wants it to make sense. It's using the horizon. It's using light. What it's not seeing is accurately that those two things are the exact same color. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

So it fills in the blank. Right. Right. And it does this. It's called intuitive cognition. It's just, intuiting. It's guessing. And it's going to be what you expect it to be. It wants it to be what you expect it to be. So when we apply this to somebody who, like this person you describe,

Scott, who then rationalizes or justifies or defends or even some people who will start to mock as their response, anyone seeing it differently than them, it has a lot to do with that they are seeing what they want to see. And when you really do lose or when it's really clear, you're going to have more of a depressive response, probably. But when you want to see something, now, now this is important, and I think this is true for everybody, everywhere, is your brain will also give you this intuitive cognition

that helps you do two things. stay in favor with your social group that matters to you and or keep your status within that social group. So if you think about that, my brain is going to show me the thing that protects my interests in my standing and my social group in the values I've espoused, it really just will give you the thing to see so that you can think you're a good person.

Because nobody's thinking they're a bad person here. You know that, right? Nobody's thinking that. None of them do. Not a single person goes, oh, I'm terrible for what happened. I'm the villain. Right, exactly. Exactly.

But if you think about so, but then people are accusing you of being a bad person because that's how it feels when you're the one who's been harmed by somebody else and now the most powerful person you've known on earth, which is what we love to claim, is in charge and got away with it and nobody's safe anymore, right? So their brain is like, all they're going to see is threat because the brain is really trying to protect them from. There are perceived threats everywhere now. You know, every other person probably voted for a monster in your mind,

and you're having a fear response to that. And then you're the person who voted for the monster or the person you think's awesome, and you must be a good person. So you cannot over-identify with his faults. You have to over-identify with. whatever your brain is telling you to see that justifies your social standing and or your financial standing or whatever it is that feels protectionist.

Right. Because in the end, we're all protectionists. Right. Like our unconscious minds are just doing their job to protect you. Which is why I wanted to make it kind of clear that this person that I was talking about earlier, this changes my perception of what they're, where they're willing to go given the messaging they think is right. but I think they're they're they in a way his his turn on that is shows him in a victim's position

he's a victim of a thing I don't think he's willfully doing this like I don't think he's going I've got them all fooled and I think I'm a great person and now I can vote for who I want and even though I would in the rest of my life I couldn't be more anti-sexual assault I voted for one who did like he's not thinking that way he's thinking about it in this other way of convincing himself that this matters less because this matters more and we all do that to some degree you know like i you know what the hardest thing for me to to to try to tell people is i don't vote for a team or a party i never do i vote for as much as i can tell as much information as i have i vote for uh qualifications if they're qualified somewhat for whatever

it is I'm voting for, whether it's local, national, whatever, and as much as I can, character, because you only have access to whatever you have. Those are my two priorities. So if you say, why do you vote for Clinton the second time? Because I don't like his character. He may have been qualified, but I think he was kind of a douche and abusive and horrible. And why didn't I vote for Trump ever? There's no qualifications or it's not a part. Yeah. It's not a, it's not a thing where I'm going, oh, well, I'm registered. I don't care about that. I've never cared about that.

And I, and I, I just want people to remember that. We're not here going, oh, don't worry. Our team will come back stronger than ever. That's not what I'm saying. It's never what I'm saying. I'm saying no more douchebags. And let's have some qualified people. That's it.

That's it. All right. Anyway, sorry. I didn't mean to. Well, no, no, your rant, feel free. It's important. So, so I'm going to turn this now to, how. something that applies to literally everybody

and it's both disheartening to hear the stats and then it's also heartening because it's something we can work on. So there is an incredible line in Taylor Swift's music that I think we all underappreciate and it's the line, it's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me. From a great song, anti-hero. Thank you so much. That's the one.

Truly. Like, if we could all do that, a little more, And really what we're describing there is self-awareness, right? Yeah, right. And here's where you're, well, okay. So let's first just say what self-awareness is, okay? So it's the ability to see ourselves clearly, to understand who we are, how we see others, and how we fit into the world around us, and like, really, truly, like, what we bring.

And a lot of that is unconscious. We don't even realize we're doing it. That's what makes self-awareness so tough, right? And there's lots of research on self-awareness. And what we find is about 10 to 15% of people, only 10 to 15% of people possess true self-awareness. That is so little when you think about that. And everyone, by the way, probably 100% of people think they are in that.

Totally self-aware, yeah, of course. Right, exactly. But it is also not as a static thing. It's going to move, right? dynamic it's going to change your awareness will change what does it say when i'm a hundred percent aware of everybody else's lack of self-awareness is that a is that a separate word for that uh it's called it well it's one thing about that though a little bit it's also just like projecting a little bit right if we're actually not self-aware we're going to be thinking oh that's

my issue but i i can't see that and so i projected on someone else so you might Yeah. There could be a lot of things going on there, Brian. We'll have to talk about that off. I'm a deep well of issues. Right. But what we know about self-awareness, and this is, this is, feels like it's, it's missing all over the place, right? Can you imagine how it would change the world overnight, right?

If suddenly, oh, just 50% were self-aware. But what good things we know, it's increased or it's linked to increased creativity, confidence, communication, self-control, better decisions. and you know, you just do better at work. There's just endless lists of how, and you know when you are with someone who's self-aware and I think sometimes self-deprecating is the way people portray some of those self-awareness. That's maybe another issue going on for them. But it is also one of the things, it's kind of why we like someone who can do that or

we're drawn to someone who doesn't, isn't a know-it-all or is clueless to how they're affecting us. I mean, a perfect example is when you, this happened last night at my kids, a band concert. This girl walks in, middle of this amazing performance. No one moves during that. That's like the rule, right? You don't move. Right. She comes busting down the aisle with a giant backpack and a big old coat goes to the third row and makes five people stand up so she can get by and cross all the way over to the fourth seat on the far end. Like, it was the most egregious I hate that example. Tell me she had quarter right pants too, or pee pants. She had on a, what is that from the 90s, the parachute pants.

Anyway, so it was very loud, no, it was very obnoxious. And all I could think was, I'm wondering about her self-awareness because I was going to talk about this today. And why do we all react to her? Everyone in that room is like, oh, my gosh, you are breaking the rule. And we're responding to her lack of self-awareness or just, you know, you can call it respect or whatever you want. But she just did not, you could see on her. She didn't care. She's smiling.

She's having a good day. Anyway, but you're having other people respond to when someone is not self-aware. We don't like it. We tend to find that problematic. And there's reasons is that your relationships don't usually go awesome if you have zero self-awareness, right? So I want to make a quick distinction between introspection and self-awareness. So real quick, you guys take a stab at how are those two things different?

And why does one have depression, anxiety as the result, and the other one has happiness as the result? Any thoughts? Interspection versus self-awareness. Introspection versus self-awareness. Because you get called out on self-awareness and introspection you kind of do on your own. Yeah. Yeah. Right? That's you going in. Awareness is how other people, not how other people see you, but affect other people. Whereas introspection, it just affects yourself. Oh, right.

If you have good self-awareness, if you're self-aware, then you should have better introspection. Aren't they connected that way? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, so you would think they are. But what's fun about the research is that people who actually spend a lot of time doing introspection, they're actually less happy, more stressed, more depressed, and more anxious, feel less in control of their life, and less happy. And that's because introspection is a bruise for actual room.

and probably anxious thinking. So it would be like, why am I, it's a why question that we don't usually answer. So like, why does no one like me, but not working to figure out because you're clueless to other people's needs, right? And so some of that churning internally actually makes you more miserable. Whereas the other version of that same seemingly similar mental strategy is to see how you are impacting the world and recognize those strengths or those weaknesses. It's almost like a lighter, more open holding of, of this information about yourself

versus going deep. You know, it's sort of someone going inward and only finding what is already inward versus somebody who's figuring out how outward things are going because of what they bring to the table. So I'm going to have you guys actually do a little of this with me. I'm going to ask you some questions. about your self-awareness, okay? And questions that will prompt some thinking about it.

And we want to move away from the introspection of, you know, the darkness within and more of the, what do I do and how does it impact people? And what can I maybe do differently, right? There's some benefits to that. Okay, really quick, do either of you have something you could share that you are self-aware of? And I don't mean self-conscious. Again, there's a different word, right?

So self-conscious might be the anxious cousin to self-awareness of like, oh, I know sometimes I annoy people. And so I'm going to tell you that I am. And then you are hyper-aware of don't want to be that thing or something. That's a little different. This is just self-awareness. What do you got that you already know about yourself that is helpful to be aware of? Sometimes you can't help doing it. You're going to do it anyway, but at least you're aware of it.

Do you have anything that pops in your head? And if not, I'll ask some questions. What do you got, Brian? Do you have something? Tell me if this is even, well, all right, we'll see if this is, if this qualifies. If not, I'm in the confessional

and this doesn't leave this podcast. That's all right. It's not public or anything. We're just doing this with this. This is definitely the confession. I feel like on days when I work out, I deserve a little bit of extra treats or fatty,

like a maybe not necessarily a pastry, but I don't shy away from like a piece of candy from the leftover Halloween. bowl like that I I know I don't deserve it just because I went to the gym but whatever reason I feel like I do and I know I don't in my head I know I don't but I do it anyway I have a form of that too I get it that's a thing I do for sure is that self awareness or is that just

just a bad self-control that's probably what it is it's the latter we have all these words with self your self control is broken no yeah okay so what you're saying what you're saying is you are aware you do this thing. I'm aware that I do it and I'm aware that it's that it's wrong and that I still do it anyway. Okay. But I justify it in my head.

I feel like that counts. That I deserve it. Yeah. Doesn't that count? It feels like that's a self, that's a form of self-awareness. The self-awareness is the justified in my head that it counts even though it doesn't. Yeah. Okay.

The fact that you know that's happening, like you know the process of the justification or the is an example of self-awareness. Okay. I don't know if it then benefits any. buddy but we're going to keep going all right scott you got one yeah it's uh it's knowing that no matter what the situation is whether i'm getting blood drawn at the doctor like yesterday or it's a show or it's hanging out at a family get together whatever it is silence will be murdered because i will not allow it to happen this weird thing where i had you do

this too windy by the way yeah but i'm i'm better you are you are pretty good at it you're better at asking questions, um, to fill the air and making other, I think you entertain and I'm like, tell me about you and let them entertain. Yeah, exactly. You're, you give them the floor. I usually like, I feel like, I feel like this nervous need to take the floor. And I do, and I know I do it. And I try to not do it sometimes. And when I don't do it, people will say, because I also have RBF as you're aware. So if I'm not doing anything, I just look like I'm mad. I'm not. I'm just sitting there. People say, are you okay is everything okay like i get that constantly if i'm just trying to test myself to see if i don't have to fill everything so if i'm sitting around a table controlling yourself looks like you're

taking it looks like i'm mad and i'm not i'm just not doing it so i'm very self-aware of that and also the reaction i get when i try to curb it it's a very weird cycle for me i don't know that counts but you can tell us if that counts or not i guess yes both great examples of self-awareness i'm going to give you one more definition that's going to really help as we get into this more. I just want to, I forgot to mention there's some benefits of being self-aware that you need to know. You have a better sense of yourself. You do a better job regulating your emotions and communicating your emotions to others. You have more confidence and self-esteem. Look at me. I want you all to do this. This is very important. And you deal with all sorts of things better.

Okay. But you both gave great examples of this definition I really like. This is from a therapist. It says self-awareness is our ability to understand our emotions, thoughts and beliefs, and how they affect others. A self-aware person knows their strength, weaknesses, and areas in life they need significant improvement. So when it's the opposite of a narcissist, honestly, right? When we interact with someone who has narcissistic tendencies, they can't be wrong. There is no mistake they could ever made. They will double down. They will lie.

They'll go whatever ways they can do to not feel the shame that comes from having done it wrong. you can raise a kid to be that way and sometimes that just happens but most of the time you are modeled that it's never okay to be wrong and your whole sense of self relies on either perfectionism or being the best or whatever it might be right and so the more self-aware people are the more they're able to they need to be able to see their weaknesses and so i'm going to ask you some questions and might pull up a few weaknesses yeah let's do but i want everyone after this call to both Think about how everything they see their brain is trying to tell them that they're a good person and they belong. And that is not a real excuse for us being bad, but it really is what's happening in our loved one's brains.

It really is. It's happening in yours and it's happening in your loved one's brain. And that is the thing. Now, as I'm working with people, we have moved into the do I never talk to my family against stage of things. And I'm doing my best to not let that be what is the end result. because that's I'm, Voldemort gets no more blood. I'm sick of it.

Okay. So, let me ask you some questions, though. Go. I was on a rant there. Here we go. Okay, so this is, you don't have to say anything out loud. If you guys want to say something out loud, you can. Everyone else, I just want you to kind of do this with.

I think we've established that Scott has to. So. Yeah, he's got to entertain. Okay, here we go. So here is the first question. And actually, I'm going to make you answer this, both of you. But I want you to take a second and just. scan your bodies like let it be really authentic how you answer rather than just jump to it

and answer here okay so here's the question how am i feeling right now um i am um the the underlying topic you even just saying the name the word narcissist sets me off a little bit so i'm actually squeezing like a little nervous blue toy here this little clay guy wow so and i think I'm doing that. He was twice the size when you picked up. I know, can you believe it? I almost tore him right in half. Who knows what's in here?

Okay. But yeah, there's like a little anxious. There's a little bit of, yeah, a little anxious. Okay. I think. Now, one step further. Why are you feeling a little anxious? Um.

Or what is causing me to feel this way? I have some catastrophizing in my own head that I'm trying to wrangle, I think. And I have, and I've been doing it not just since election night. Really, this stuff started. in earnest um in 2016 and that you know the division everybody's feeling started then i guess so i'm not i'm not alone in this and i don't think i am but um last week i had a real a moment of clarity that i've talked about on some other stuff in my diary show but basically the moment of clarity was not that i'm part of the problem but i'm part of the system that is part of the problem and that

that system is this false this this mirage that that what we hop on to Twitter and say makes any difference it doesn't what it does is makes money for you know tech CEOs who own these platforms who make money off of that sort of stuff because conflict drama and freak out it creates more engagement than positivity or happiness or good times and it hit me more than ever I think think I've always sort of known this was true, but have resisted it. But I just hit me more than ever, even with a somewhat decent size platform that we have over somebody who doesn't have shows or doesn't have these public facing things, it's just a mirage. It's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

just angry soup and you're not really turning, nobody turns based on what I say. I'm not going to go there and go, oh, what a Travis. And then some guy who voted for Trump's going to go, oh, you know, makes a real point there about this travesty. And like, no one's doing that. It's an absolute waste of my time. And it's a waste of my energy. And I, and it just, it clicked with me more than ever. I kind of always knew this, but just had this moment of like, why are you doing this?

You're done doing this. This is dumb. We're not doing this again. And so I'm just done. I'm done with that. I don't want to, I don't want to do it anymore. I'm just like out of it. And I realize, you know, part of me, I'm saying this in a hopeful way because I guess I don't really know this to be true.

But this is what people say to feel better about it, which goes to your whole point, right? What do we tell ourselves? But I'm telling myself that looking inwardly to my family, my kids, and now their kids, my wife, my extended family, my mom, you, my sisters, my brother. Except I know how one voted. Anyway, all of that, what I'm doing on the ground with those people is the only difference I have, is the only power I have to make a difference. In other words, the people that I know that I trust that we have this back and forth with that I can actually influence in a real meaningful flesh and blood way is the only true

influence I have. I don't have another one. I just don't. And I used to try to convince myself that I did or that everybody does. And those platforms, that's their job is to convince you that you do. I've got this theory that if you sign up for, it doesn't matter what, just some social media account. Let's say Facebook. I sign up today as a brand new user, never had any history.

There's no algorithm around what I like. I'm a brand new human being that just signed up for the first time. Blank slate. You will get that day a mix of things in the algorithm. and some of them are going to be inciting and anger-inducing. And you may even block a few of those at first, and the algorithm will go, okay, well, that's cool. We'll just give you some of these cat pictures you like, but they're still going to find a way to slide that stuff in. Why?

Because they need you to be engaged in stuff you have no control over. You need to feel like you're involved, but you're not. But you think you are, but you're not. I'm telling you, it's a big, fat lie. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's just not true. you know what i said in 2016 when you know they first elected him affected no one but i sure wasted 30 seconds doing it and then compound all that and all the time you wait it's just a freaking

waste so so this week has been a lot of that for me and a lot of my sort of emotions and feelings and what's keeping me up at night is just coming to grips with this particular realization that it's that that's just a lot of wasted energy and time and emotional stuff because it just what's the point I'm better off you know what if I'm going to sit on it doesn't matter where the platform I'm going to sit on threads all day and say a bunch of stuff that I'm mad about it would be better if I just sent Wendy a quick text and said oh what a week and you'd be like yeah right that sucks well at least mom's doing okay this week if you talk to her no I probably should call you know what I mean that's meaningful that's like rubber meets the road life this other

stuff is a mirage. You may not get perfect 100% resolution to it, but you are going to get a different thing than, yeah, I'm angry too. Oh my God, I'm so angry in this and this and don't forget about this. Yeah. And all that just does more for threads than it does for you. Yeah. It does. And the illusion of community is so tempting. We are as lonely as we've ever been. but the illusion is that it takes seconds for me to find people who think just like me and to think I'm part of that club. I mean, the social interest here is, I mean, that's what's been monetized and algorithmized. And so one thing, I was just going to tell you a brief story.

Abe had a very difficult time with this. And we had a phone call and he just wanted to. And these are his words. He said, I don't understand why when he made. fun of a disabled reporter, it didn't end there. How is this gone one second past that moment? Because the world in which we raised him in, that would never have happened, right? And no one else could probably pull it off, right?

I mean, even four years before that, a guy ended his campaign because of the ridicule of, we're going to take Zerno, we're going to take, yeah. Howard, Howard, uh, Howard, Howard, yeah. So, so we talked about this very concept, Scott, you just shared. which is you want to do something as the human condition there is what is anger for what is a need for chain all of this is an energy to do something i think the unfortunate thing is like you're saying that energy gets wasted into a void that just creates more divisiveness and more anger it doesn't have resolution built within it it doesn't have an actual action that does

anything. So you have people who then take that need, start to act, start to, I mean, sign up to run for local elections or whatever they did. So Abe and I could not figure out anything to do that quickly. So we decided that both of us had to do something nice for someone we know voted for Trump. Talk about the hardest thing in the world. And mine was so stupid and it's embarrassing to even share this. But I was walking up the street with my dog. Somebody's recycling had blown all over the street. And so in the middle of the street between these two houses that have nothing but Trump signs up in their yard, I just cleaned up the garbage off their street. It took forever because it had rained and they were stuck. And I was scraping with my dog in the middle of the road,

cursing everyone. I was so mad. But there was something about doing something. And it was like, so you're a better person. I'm like, I am, damn it. I'm a better person. But it was silly. But What it ultimately was, was something, right? Or I could go yell in the void or I could, you know, that sounds so lame. And then he went off and tried to just be really kind to somebody at school. You know, like it was just trying to take the opposite approach, which what comes pretty naturally to a lot of us when anger hits. And it's interesting. And anger's not bad.

Anger is just an action, like do something, right? And so maybe it's something small or something little. But when you. But it gives the possibility that they're going to turn around. and maybe do something that they wouldn't normally do and do something nice for somebody else. Like there's, you know, there's that hope that it's like, I mean, it's not why you do it, but it could be an end result of what. It's like a pay-it-forward kind of thing.

Exactly. A little bit. Right. And just human interaction as we watch other people do kind things, we feel more bonded, even if they're strangers holding a door for one another or any act of kindness. We have chemicals released in everyone's brain that makes us feel closer. that's the opposite of what going on the internet will do you do not get the brain chemistry to feel closer you get the one that unless you get right in your tribe and scream in your echo

chamber right um and so this applying this to to self-awareness is this you i'm not asking you guys but is this you in this moment right now or are you self-aware enough to know i need something different let me figure out what that need might be. None of us are perfect at this. It's always a growing thing to figure out your self-awareness. But really, if we could just switch it out to self-care, if you knew what you actually needed, you could do that thing. I have a client who's just like, I feel a calling now to do something different with my life

because of this election. And that is action. Whoa, that's a big one. Other people might just be like, I need to watch the British Bake Off and drink hot chocolate for four more nights and then we'll see where I'm at and all of that is using your self-awareness knowing yourself knowing maybe your weaknesses because that's another piece of this when you ask somebody i'm we're out of time so i'm not going to do all that have you answer the questions but let me just read the other ones that are good um what would other people say they love about me like that is a

way to understand some of your strengths you maybe aren't fully aware of another one is what are my strengths or what are my weaknesses? Like, actually reflecting on some limitations can help balance you out. What drains me? What invigorates me? What do I need right now? What's one thing about my past that I would want to heal? Is there something I want to do?

Why or why not? How do I treat other people who can't do anything for me? So that's your character question. Are there behaviors I exhibit I don't align with my current values and beliefs? Yeah, that's all of us. How many times are we like, I shouldn't have? Brian and his candy, or, you know, I wrote something on Facebook or I said this thing to a friend or, you know, there are things that don't align with your values and your system will tell you.

Are my behavior self-sabotaging? How do I express my emotions? Do I bologna, do I lash out? What's preventing me from achieving success? I mean, there's so many. But really, what motivates you? Why are you defensive? Do you ever feel inferior or unworthy?

if you are always running from feeling bad or in or sort of looking at your stuff you're going to then behave super unconsciously which is why we get that 10 to 15% number right not an easy thing to do do we need to all do a little better at this absolutely so I want to challenge everybody there's your homework friends I haven't given homework in a while no it's been a bit this is your homework yeah there's your homework I want you to um I'm going to give you the link to these questions. Okay. Please do. Stick them in. Share that.

It's a 20 questions can boost your self-awareness. I'll give it to you. But it, go through them if that's helpful for you. And figure out some stuff. This is a dynamic value added. You can gain these skills. This is not, you are or you are not self-aware. You're probably more self-aware about certain things or not. But I want to challenge everyone to just up up it a little bit, answer some of these questions.

Have a conversation. One of the things I read as I was thinking about this was have a party, a dinner party where everyone gives you a feedback. Can you imagine? Oh, my gosh. Make your own roast. Oh, your own roast. Oh, that's a terrible idea. It'd be amazing, right?

You'd have to have some serious ego strength to handle that, I think. But again, like maybe a little of that. Like, ask, I had, I had a client once who could not get a girl to get anywhere near him. And he'd get a bunch of first dates and then they would all go south and he couldn't figure out why. So I made him do this. I had him ask four people who'd known him a long time. Oh, I thought you're going to say that he like sent out a, um, thanks for going out on date. Could you answer these four questions about the time you have?

Oh, I wish. I respect those girls too much. But no, it was, hey, give some feedback to this guy about how you see him as a dater because they'd been double dating with. him or his mom had known him a long time and they four letters came all four letters said the exact same thing you talk too much about yourself because you're insecure and you're trying to prove that you be a good partner this was a cartoonist by the way he was an artist and he was like you know you're afraid they won't think you can make any money and so you're bragging and it's the biggest turn off and he had no idea he had no idea i didn't know i'm gone on a date with him i don't

know. So finally, we find out this thing and it becomes part of his awareness. I'm not kidding you. A week later, he got a date. I got a text at midnight. He's like, she kissed me and wants to go out again. So I'm telling you, self-awareness, it really, really will benefit you. So I don't recommend the roast party, but it would be fun. Yeah, I could imagine there's some, you know, there's stuff to be gleaned from such an experience, but I don't think I could do it. But I would love if everyone would just like come if we do homework the right way come back with one insight

one thing you figured out about yourself it'd be fun to compile a list yeah and I put the this link in the chat room I'll also put it on our Discord today so you guys can at home who maybe missed the live show you can check that link out as well oh thank you

actually 9 of 12 put it in the therapy show folder but hey if you guys don't mind stick it in the TMS one that way I won't forget the TMS general group that would be wonderful. Wendy, it's a pleasure talking to you as always. It is a pleasure. Thank you for the full hour. That was long. There's a nice long one today. But, you know, an important one.

We needed to do it. Yeah. And next week, hopefully we get some feedback. We can talk about some of that and as well as, you know, anything new that crops up. In the meantime, I hope you have a fantastic one and we'll see you then. Bye now. I think it's finally getting cold there too. I meant to ask her about the weather. Man, we did not get your snow that you were supposed to. to send us. It's still green out. I can see grass everywhere and excuse me, high of 58 degrees today is what we're expecting. I did warm up here too. I didn't expect it. It was really windy and gross last night. I thought we were getting another horrible storm and now today it's like a high of 55 and I don't know what's going on. Weather man. How's it work? We should ask

a weather man. Ask an ICP. There you go. A quick note about shows coming up and then we'll get out of here coverville today noon twitch dot tv slash coverville jim rice that's right check that out music of aladdin a bunch of musicals and a james bond theme and more yeah that dude is the most important thing that happened to disney in the 90s really was yeah without him i don't think you have like there a lot of great stuff happened after him and and during him that were also there but it was like a whole new way of doing musicals and he just killed it he's awesome uh core also at noon today on the youtube That'll be about an hour, a little less than an hour from now. Got a lot to talk about there.

TMS Friday tomorrow for our patrons. That'll be in the Discord. If you're a patron, you'll automatically have access to it. I'm trying to improve the, apparently the audio quality sucks for mobile users in there, and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to supersede it. But nothing yet. Soon, though. We'll have an answer to that soon.

Yeah. And Bonica, as a guest tomorrow, with horror recommendations from her and even a little bit of horror trivia with her and Scott. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. So check that out. That's our TMS Friday episode only for our patrons. Patreon.com slash TMS for that. Play retro also tomorrow, 1.30. We're talking about Donkey Kong country. And Filmsack this weekend is all about the film Blue Steel. Yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis. As the cop, if I remember correctly.

She's the Blue Man group of this movie and Blue Steel everywhere. No, I don't know. I've never seen it, but it's a Catherine Bigelow movie and I always like her movies. But we'll see if that holds up for 1990-ish. I saw it back when it came out and all I remember is her as a cop. Nice. That's it. I don't remember. I don't, well, I haven't seen it. So I have no knowledge of this.

But we're all going to find out together on FilmSack this weekend, philmsac.com. That's it for us. Frogpants.com slash TMS for all our stuff. Brian, let's leave him with a little tune. A tune, a request. This one's going out to Jeremy. Jeremy says, this is for my wife, Sarah,

for her 35th birthday. Love the show. 35th. Short and sweet. 35th. That gives you this. Let's party. You have five years before we have to change that.

Yes, right, exactly. All Jeremy said is, Sound of Music, metal cover. So a metal cover of something from the Sound of Music. This is about as good as I could get from that. This is a, I love this. This is from an album. Oh, I don't even know what Elma came from because that field is blank. But it's a cover of Edelweiss from the 7th.

of music, covered by a band called Masanori Mitsumi. Sorry, Masanori Yitzumi. There's no second M. Massanori Yitzumi. And it is, it's got some screaming guitars doing Adel Vise, Aedel Vise, which was not a Tim Rice musical, by the way. It was not. Here you go. Here is Masanoy Tumi and a cover of Edel Vise. So.. And...

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It's okay. You can have another, and another after that, at frogpants.com. You guys sound kind of sparkly.