The Morning Stream - TMS 2742: Show and Yell

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Barehand Turkey Ripper. You Want Disgusting? Here, Hold My Pizza Wine. Stuck Between Thomas And Nancy. Musty Ibbott. There Were TWO CHUCKS. You Lost Me At Toasted Oak. Totally gassed on the treads. Cork dork. It's All Dirt To Me, Dammit! No Longer Orange Theory, It's Law. Forget Coverville, Welcome to Funkytown. TMS: Generally Wholesome. Rubbing the EMU in. Never a beer has passed my face. Oliver the Frenchman with Amy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You want disgusting? Here, hold my pizza wine. Stuck between a Thomas and a Nancy. Musty Ibb it. There were two chocks. You lost me at toasted oak. Totally gassed on the trestead. Cork, dark. It's all dirt to me, damn it.

No longer Orange Theory. It's law. Forget Coverville. Welcome to Funky Town. TMS. Generally wholesome. Rubbing the E.mew in. Never a beer has passed my face. All over the Frenchman, with Amy and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. Do your homemade cakes look and taste the same old-fashioned? No filling. Boring and plain? Well, not anymore.

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It's the morning stream for Tuesday, November 26th. 24. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Ibit. Hello. Gooden Morgan. To you? Sitting down because it was Power Day at the gym. Do tell what Power Day is compared to a different day. So because they were expecting fewer people, they put us all on the treads to start. They basically have, I want to say they have 14 treadmills and they were expecting 12 of us. So they lined us all up on the treadmills instead of splitting this up between floor and treads. And I usually, I like starting out on floor. I like ending with treads because I get totally gassed on the, on the treadmills.

So I want to end my day with that or end my workout with that. Makes sense. But they started us off there. And then more people started showing up. They showed up late. So they put those people on the floor and they said, hey, anybody want to move to the floor from the treads? And I was really, I don't know why I didn't. But I stayed on the treads and it was a mistake.

so there were two people out on the floor while they were still like 16 or 14 of us on the on the treadmills and what they did is they alternated us between so if you think of it as three levels like like base is a speed on the treadmill that you could maintain forever if you needed to okay for four and a half miles I usually do is is my base which is a job but it's a it's a light jog yeah and it's consistent that's what you want is a consistent one I can do I could do 30 minutes of that no problem sure um then they have the push which is usually a mile above that so five to five and a half miles per hour and then an all out which is usually a mile above that so for me it's four and a half five and a half six and a half or the speeds I do but everybody's got their own base or potentially got their own base and some people even do like power walking and and they just adjust. They power

walks the whole time and they just adjust elevation that sort of thing. But those are mine. So we basically said base, forget base. We're going to alternate between push and all out. And it was basically like going from

a minute of five and a half miles per hour to a minute of six and a half miles per hour and then like a 30 second walking recovery and then repeat, repeat, repeat. nine times oh yeah yeah oh so far i was with you and then i went and then you said nine times nine times oh my god yeah so it uh that so then i get again i get totally like totally beat and then all right time to move to the floor and the rowers and uh do weights and that sort of thing i still

pushed myself with the weights and did five mile or five pounds over um my typical row and row lifts and stuff like that. I guess row lift is out like that. Those are really good for it. They're hard, but they're good for you. They really are. Yeah. And then bench presses and stuff like that.

Sure. Wiped out, but it was good. I did forget to do something today. So on days that I work out, I get up at 55.m. And then I don't take a shower. I go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, wash my face. and deodorant and then I have my clothes I have my workout clothes in there so I'll have to wake Tina up by turning a light on in the bedroom I get dressed tiptoe out feed the cat go out and hit the place yeah I guess it was a little bit of a hurry this morning and I forgot to put deodorant on ah sweet and and this is like full day of Monday overnight yeah and then getting up Tuesday and

and I didn't realize it until I was on the treadmill stuck there between Thomas and Nancy because I see their names on the treadmill. Yeah. And then I'm like... I don't know why that's funny. I don't know why it's funny that it's Tom and Nancy.

I don't know why. Thomas and Nancy, yeah. Thomas is one of these young guys who's like, all right, yeah, I could do this all day. It's like, all right, go ahead, do whatever you need to do. Whatever you need to do, Tom. Yeah. Nancy, I think, is maybe

two to three years older than me. Short gray hair. But like a tank. She's been going orange theory for a while. She's got guns. She is like, she's going to take that turkey out of the oven on Thursday, bare-handed, and just rip it to take the meat off. I love it.

No electric knife for her. She's just going to rip the meat right off the turkey. It's no longer a theory for her. It's a law, the orange theory. She's at orange law. It's been proven. So, but now I'm like, oh, God, I stink. And this is, again, when I'm thinking, maybe I will go to the floor just so I can be away from people.

And I don't have anybody around me to stick up because there are so many floor spots open. I basically have my, any pick of a spot that I wanted to sit at and go do my deal. But I stuck with it. And I figure, you know what, it's a gym. This is what Jim's smell like. We're all here to work out, whatever. And I don't think it was that bad because, you know, she was smiling and fist bumping me at the end of the runs and all that stuff.

So nobody looked at you and went, no, nobody, exactly. Nobody said, I'll go to the, I'll go to the floor. I was thinking Thomas and Nancy might both volunteer. Hey, is it too late for me to go to the floor? I'll do it. Tom and Nancy, both. I've had it. I can't do it.

Right. Right. Boy, what message would that send? Both people on either side of me both like truck it over to the floor is like, okay, yeah, point taken. Yeah. Brian turns around heads for the door, face down. Charlie Brown music, get out of there. Exactly.

Exactly. I mean, I was even thinking about like, you know, excusing, like pausing the, the treadmill, running over to the bathroom and doing like a hooker bath, you know, with the sink with the. Oh, yeah. Or like that guy in that, uh, four. corner movie we watched with the armpit face guy. Yeah. It could be like that. Oh, God. No, I would

actually not rub my face with the same hands and the same water that I just used for my armpit. Good, because that guy is gross. Gross. Routy to the max is what he is. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's wild, dude. I'm glad it all worked out, though. Everything's good. Worked out great. You know what?

I always feel great when I leave there. I hated right up until the last minute and then I leave there. And then I start, I do the final stretch. is I'm like, ah, you don't want to feel really good. All right. This is why I do. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's the thing. You feel better. You look great. You're looking great. Oh, Brian froze, except for that part. He's looking great except for the freezing part. He's frozen.

He's not moving. And Orange Theory got wind of it and shut him down. That's fantastic. He's looking solid, unmoving in his visage. Yeah. all right let's pause this so that the people at home don't have to deal with it one moment please well you're back that's good i'm back yes um so where the hell were we yeah i was talking about how i feel great after my workout but i hate it at the time but uh oh gotcha that's where we

were well you're i think i was in the middle of saying how you look great you sound great and uh it's working for you and all that stuff and then i looked back at you and your face was just going like this. Great. Because I kind of went on for a while before I realized it, and the chat is laughing at me. Because you're frozen, and it was clear that you were frozen, and they are laughing. Oh, that's really funny. That's really, really funny.

So anyway, a couple other things here. Something dumb I found out. You want to hear a dumb thing I found out? Because it's pretty dumb. Of course I do. Always. It's not even that dumb, I guess. But I was curious, this came to me while I watched some kid where an oversized trucker

hat walking down the street with his dog and he had this giant trucker hat way too big for him it was almost comically large just ridiculously big but you could tell he wasn't wearing it ironically he thought this was a cool hat okay all right that's fine i don't know him i didn't talk to him it's not a big deal it's just something i noticed and then something in my brain went where did the first hat come from who who's the first person to say i want to put something on my head yeah Like I want to have something on my head to either look different or it's for weather or it's for protection or for like a helmet to protect me from social saber two tigers. Exactly. All those things. I didn't know. Right. Some tribal things. It's ceremonial. I didn't know. So I decided to look it up. Brian, I found out. And this is a little bit rough in terms of like we don't have an exact date time or name. That's, yeah, as I would expect. Yeah. This is not the kind of thing you'd figure history would have. a very good pinpoint on but 30,000 years BC the first known hat was found uh was roughly in

that era and they found it in an excavation where somebody had this like strange little almost yarmica size thing on okay and that's the very first hat and it just got me to thinking man we've come a long way in uh yeah they're kidding yeah 30 so that's not even that's only what three that's 30 thousand I'm sorry 32,400 years, right? 32,024 years. Oh, thank you. It's 24.

Yeah. I mean, that's a long time to have a lot to have hats. I'd like to know, all right. So did they figure out a head covering before they figured out? Because you, you know, your caveman stereotype is loincloth. cloth and club, right? Yeah. Did they come up with a top,

like some sort of leather shirt, cloth, you know, ripped a mammoth hide shirt before they came up with a hat? Which came first? That part is a great question. I don't know. So I did look a little ancillary information about when's the first clothing. And that goes further back, but they also can't pinpoint it. Obviously, nobody's writing this shit down back then.

but it was a long time ago and animal skins was the assumption and what they've been able to dig up it is animal-based skin type stuff on people but there was a period of time before around 30,000 BC when they had no record of a hat

which seems a little weird because I think you would have also you have to say well what defines a hat is it a wrap can somebody taking a bear skin and just tightly holding it around their head while they travel from village to village is that a hat

I think it's going to look exactly like the Jemarikwai Shaman from January 6th I was wearing. That's basically what the first half looked like. Great. That guy's as much of a caveman as I had assumed. That's fantastic. He is, absolutely. You know, it is funny because why, again, going on the assumption that the loincloth was the first thing that we decided to put on, is that because guys have been ashamed about the size of their junk since the beginning of time?

Great question. probably. It's not protection. I mean, it is not a mammoth kicked. I've really focused on it being mammoth, by the way, for whatever reason. Because I know there were no dinosaurs and cavemen at the same time. I know this. No, there weren't. But let's just say,

you know, cavewoman kicking somebody in the the crotch, a loincloth is not going to protect you. No, there's no, like, I mean, this is true. I was, you know, in that Gladiator two movie, they're all wearing you know, wraps and stuff. Nobody's got, like, tied underwear.

Yeah. There's no protection out there. Freaking just... Yeah, forget about chopping each other in the shoulder, kick each other in the nuts. Do that? Yeah.

Actually, one of them did, I think, if I remember one of the guys. Anyway, oh, look at the kitty, guys. This is who I turn into a hat right here. This cat right here. Yep. It should be a big soft hat. Yeah.

Alive, though. We don't want her to die. It should be a hat. Yes. Yeah. But look at her. Any idea that how many people were staring at her right at this moment oh she has no idea cat that's what's great about being an animal they don't know they don't know they don't know you know if i could be here's what i want if the world goes

to complete shit convert me into a dog brain because then i can just go so you're unaware of it yeah you're just like ah what's i just got to find food if something hurts sure it hurts and you're kind of miserable but you don't you don't get esoteric about it you know yeah you just just uh you just limp around lick yourself. We're still unaware. Exactly. Yeah. I think that's the answer to our future Armageddon as we.

Unless you're in Ohio. That's true. Skibbitty toilet. All right. Let's get to. We're eating the dog brains. Sorry. We got a, we got a voicemail from a listener.

Chuck Byers. Oh, cool. Yeah. We like Chuck. And Chuck Byers, we have two Chucks we really like him and, and Chuck, Amy's Chuck. Chuck Robinson. Yeah. And so between those two chucks.

We have all the Chucks we can stand. No other Chucks. No one else is allowed. That's not true. You can all come in. Even if you're a Charles, that's fine. We'll take you. Anyway, Chuck Byers called in and he had a, we unlocked a Rich Hall memory, he says.

I'll let him explain. Hey, you guys, Chuck Byers here. Hey, I was just listening to the November 20th Wednesday show. You were talking about some TV shows for recommendals, and you mentioned the name Rich Hall, which sparked a memory in my head. for this old HBO show 100 years ago called Not Necessarily the News, and he used to do these things called Sniglets, just wondering if you guys remember them.

They're words that he makes up to describe certain situations. So I found some examples on Wikipedia. Aquidextrius is one of them, possessing the ability to turn the bathtub faucet with the toes. Schwads, C-H-W-A-D-S, discarded gum found beneath tables and countertops. There's tons of them. It's funny.

I thought it was. Love the show. Take it easy later. 100% remember this. I have books still. Yeah. I still have his books. Yeah, he made books.

I remember your main anchor was a dude named Stuart Pankow, I think. Let's see. Who's that? Oh, look at you with the deep pole on the net. Yeah. Oh, no, it was, uh, I don't know. Oh, no? Well, hold on. Not Stuart Pankow?

He might be right. Hold on. Let's see. Series featured. No. Oh, no. He appears. Stuart Pankin? Pankin. That's the guy right there. Yeah. Yeah, he was your... Rich Hall, Danny Breen, Amy Blune, Mitchell Lawrence, Lucy Webb, and main host, Stuart Pankin.

Yeah. The, um, my favorite sniglet, really the only sniglet that I can actually remember, that I can pull up at any time from memory, is maggots and M-A-G-G-I-T-S those are the subscription cards that fall out of magazines when you open them up. Oh, yeah, that's right.

I think we've even talked about those before on here. We may have, yeah. So Rich Hall, for those who don't know who we're talking about, he looks like this. This is not to be confused. Who did Julia E. Dreyfus-Mary? That's the other...

Brad Hall. Brad Hall. A lot of people mix them up, but this is Rich Hall. recently. He's an older guy now, but... That's his look when he goes to a street fair or a farmer's market. Yeah, dude.

He might even be running a booth at that farmer's market. How much for a bushel of those plums right there? Yeah. That's what he's saying. This is how we knew him, though, this guy right here. This is the face we knew. Yeah. That was the rich hall we grew up with.

Very, very snarky. Like, you know, not necessarily the news basically was HBO's attempt to do a weekend update where they could swear and have correspondence and so you had Rich Hall is one of those correspondents who said you know my segment's

going to be Sniglets I could not tell you any other segment on that show could not remember anything else about not necessarily the news It says here you're totally right about except it's sort of in reverse but the show is considered an inspiration

and predecessor to the future news satirical program The Daily Show is often cited as its chief inspiration and you had people like Conan O'Brien, Greg Daniels, Al Jean, all these veterans of Simpsons and stuff would show up Jan Hooks would show up, Harry Shear do a little like

you know, kind of like what you'd have Steve Corell do like a correspondent thing. Yeah, like on the man on the street reporting. Yeah. I know the show that came after it was the one I was really waiting for which was not just shoot me, it was Dream on. Dream on.

Dream on. Which was a sitcom, I think HBO's first sitcom, and it had, what's her face from Just Shoot Me, Wendy Malick. Oh, this show. Yeah. Not the woman of my dreams. No. But it was a guy who was in the dating world, and half of the episode would be dream sequences. Right. I remember this. I remember thinking this was great. yeah mainly because it had a lot of this going on in it yeah there's a lot of nudity yeah lots of dudes from Matt Lauer look it's like watching Matt Lauer have sex Brian Ben Ben Brian Ben Ben Brian Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben kind of name is oh Denny Dylan Denny another Saturday Night Live Rich Hall was on S&L for

also was Denny Dylan who is in the cast of this dream on as well wow all right how's this guy doing what's he up to he looks familiar he looks more familiar as this guy to me, the older version of it. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't know why. Also, that lady has a lot of moles. Go get those checked. Good Lord. Anyway, uh, she does. Wow. A lot of moles. I'm just saying. Right down her neck, too. Maybe, uh, maybe, uh, she's got a little Star Trek parasite thing going. She's, uh, crazy. Dax. Uh, but good memory poll there, uh, Chuck. We appreciate to, yeah, no kidding. Love not necessarily the news and, uh, sneaklets. Terry wrote in with something nice to say about how we sometimes help people. Oh, good. We don't like,

to get too cheesy here on the show, or too softy. You know, we try to keep it fun. But I like this. He says, I just wanted to take a second, says Terry, and express some gratitude toward you and your shows. The last couple of months, I've been doing a considerable amount of doom scrolling and consumption of political media, which has been heavy to say the least. I recently decided to focus on consuming happier version of media and have gone

back to listening to your show after a small hiatus. What a treat it is to have something silly, fun, lighthearted, and generally wholesome throughout my day. Generally wholesome. Generally, generally wholesome. The morning stream, generally wholesome. There might be a T-shirt in that. We're going to consider that.

There might be, yeah. You know, we've been talking off air about bringing back the 30-second film festival. And I think... Oh, we got to do it. Working generally wholesome into it somehow might be the... That's a great idea. We need to remember this. And also, I think it'd be a...

I forgot to tell you this, but I think it'd be a great idea for us to revive that right when Sundance is happening, which is soon, but not too soon. We have some time. And that way we can kind of coincide it and say, ah, our own little alternate film festival happening over here. That's right, our film festival. Yeah. I think we're going to do that. Anyway, it says, it goes on to say,

thanks for doing you guys do from the rest of us dealing with daily grinds and stresses that go along with it, long time listening, even back in the early instance days, says Terry. Well, Terry, that's just nice. Thank you for that. That is nice. It's good to be, you know, as much as we how do I put this? We don't realize

we affect people in positive ways, necessarily all the time. But when you guys take the time to tell us, that's our version of what you're getting out of us. It's very nice to get that kind of feedback. So never be afraid to tell us that you like us. You like us. You really, really like us.

But boy, when we affect somebody in a negative way, we hear about it. Big time. That was an email, by the way, the morning stream at gmail.com, if you want to email us. And there's also a text here to read from, let's see, this is an anonymous listener,

but I have photos for this. This is great. Oh, cool. The title is Them Birds Be Scary. Yarr! Hello, gents. Listening to yesterday's TMS on 1119.

This is down in a few days. And the part where you're talking about cassoiris, we're talking about birds and stuff. Big giant, hairy birds. To address your question about the least concern designation, that refers to their population status. That meaning that they are of the

least concern for being endangered. Exactly. I assumed how much they would peck me to death, but no. Yeah, that's what we both assume. Like, how dangerous are they? But, you know, at least, how concerned should we be when we see one of these? Yeah. He does say, however, when it comes to a threat to humans, they are the only bird capable of outright killing a human due to their insane claws used for disembowling predators.

Check these suckers out. Here's your image. Okay. Let's see it. Whoops. Where to go. There it is. Look at that shit.

Oh, my gosh. that is that is clever girl level yeah that's a raptor arm or leg i'm telling you i mean i know birds are essentially raptors and dinosaurs descendants but still like right that guy's even wearing like a doctory jacket like the guy in not drasic park look at that thing yeah dang can you imagine two of those coming at you real fast no no that shit i shit my pants screw you castle wary yeah take that we're mostly wholesome frank cassowary we're a generally wholesome show here don't come after me that's right uh anyway thanks thanks for that text uh that came to 801 471 0462 you're encouraged to use that for both voicemails and

text keep them coming all right fine you i'll pronounce it emu imu fine i'll pronounce it emu yeah heard from uh three other australians who all said here here on the emu i'm like all right it's not that we didn't believe you we don't it's not it's not that we don't believe that Australians pronounce it e-mue. Yeah, they're really, what's the word? They're rubbing it in, that's what they're doing. News time. It's time for the news.

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School evacuated as a child brings explosives to show and tell. Ooh. Ooh. Maybe don't do that. That seems bad. Yeah. Says a junior high school is evacuated after a child brought a historic explosive devices, device rather, to a show and tell.

There were dramatic scenes at Orchard Junior High in Dibden, Perilu Purleu? Where's this? I don't know. Jalio.co.co.co. U.K., I wonder if that's a strange name.

That sounds maybe Welsh, maybe. Oh, it could be. Could be. It could even be like Indian. I don't know. Oh, sure. Not in India, but an Indian

named school there. Anyway, as police were called out at 1.30 p.m. That's after lunch, man. It's time to go home anyway. after the item was presented in class. An email sent to parents by the school described the object is a historic incendiary device. Oh, shit.

Hampshire, England, by the way. Oh, Hampshire. All right. Situated, it's a village situated on the edge of the new forest in Hampshire, England. Oh, the Hampshire. The Hampshire. The village merges with the nearby town of H-Y-T-H-E. Not to be confused with Hyde, but Hyde.

I kind of like hive. That's cool. Hive. Where are you from? I'm from the vampire community of Hyde. Perfect. Anyway, police spokesman said the school was calmly evacuated and disposal team attended to take away the item

and have it destroyed as a precaution. Unquote. Lori Holloway, who was a child at the school, says she found out what happened when she received a text from the school saying, quote, schools are being closed and evacuated. Please collect your child from Nodeswood Field ASAP. Nodeswood.

We flipped a mountain of field. Yeah. We're not going out into the Nodeswood. That's where the dragons be. Love that name. At no point in this whole article do they say what the object is. Is it a grenade? Is it a...

I assume it's like an old bomb from like the war. Maybe an old bomb, an old mine or something? I mean, who knows? They don't say, yeah. I assume it's something like that. I mean, what was it, a month ago? That Japanese airfield portion of it exploded because some World War II buried ordinance went off.

right and that was so old no one knew it was there it's just been paved over five times or something it's crazy yeah um see another parent called saying there were police everywhere i knew me youngest would have to be so scared I don't know why they talk like that That's not even close That's perfectly fine Both schools seem to deal with it Oh I guess there were two schools It says both schools I don't know what that means

Seemed to deal with it all very well And had the kids lined up to be checked off It must have been a very upsetting For everyone involved they say There's a secondary school So high school nearby Ah gotcha They were stoked

We're going home early boys Woo Brought it for show and yell That's right brought for show and yell. That's right. They grab their swords and enter the Nodeswood where the wizard is. Love these names.

All right, here's a story about Pizza Hut. Let's move away from dangerous incendiary devices to dangerous dietary devices. Pizza Hut. Okay, good. Food bombs. Food bomb. There you go. Pizza Hut is introducing a tomato wine.

I'd try this. I would totally try this. a tomato wine yeah okay i'm not gonna drink it but i'll try it i'm like i'll taste it i'll do that i was gonna say by tasting it you're drinking it you do know that no no i don't mean like i don't i'm not trying to you're not gonna you're not gonna chug it i just don't think i would like it but i would try it for the show or something you know sure sure like it just sounds gross but anyway wine and pizza are natural pairings is that true would you say that oh absolutely any italian food and wine go together like uh chips and cheese i'm i think you're probably

right? Barry, do you want to? Hey, Barry, right in. Does wine go with Italian food? Yeah, like Barry, Barry would have a good point, but also, I think where I'm getting hung up is it's Pizza Hut and does wine, you know what I mean? But it's still Italian, like marinera, you know, marinera sauce, pizza sauce, tomato-based sauces. It may be, it may be cheap Italian food, but it's Italian food nonetheless. That's true. Italian is adjacent or inspired, for sure. It says here, pizza is offering a new wine space, sorry, in the new wine space. In the wine space, I keep putting new in there. It's not new.

In the new wine space. Test the pallets of lovers of both products. The chain is getting into the wine business with tomato wine by Pizza Hut. A limited edition offering that a company says, quote, captures the essence of Pizza Hut's signature flavors in every sip. See, that's a dangerous slope to walk on right there. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Hmm, this tastes like pepperonian bad.

So it's like a savory, like a savory wine, I guess. I love tomato juice and even warm like spicy tomato juice, but I don't think this sounds right. It's a red. Big shock. It's a red, everybody. Because it would be, of course, it's a red. Spirit is made from grapes, yes, but also from tomatoes. Oh, not grapes.

Not from grapes. You're right. No grapes involved. Only tomatoes, which are infused with natural basil to give that a pairing note. Kansas based just beyond. Paradise Winery is working with Pizza Hut to make the beverage. If you have a discerning palette, is said to offer a, quote, aromatic blend of fresh herbs or herbs. I'm not here to judge.

And spices, or speces, could be speaces, I don't know, with Rich or Reich. I don't know. What do I know? Sure. Sunripened tomato notes with a subtle hint of toasted oak reminiscent of a perfectly baked pizza crust. I don't know, dude. Yeah. I won't say you had me before, but you definitely lost me reminiscent of a perfectly baked pizza crust. This wine reminds me of a perfectly baked pizza crust. Yeah, when you think of bread and spirits, you think of, well, wine's not really spirits, but you think more of like beer, right?

Yeah, yeah. Odie, you know, bready kind of vibe. I think, I don't know. I've never even tasted beer, but that's what I, that's what people tell. Oh, really? Yeah, I've never even tasted. I've tasted wine. I've tasted uh,

Randy's milkshake infused with whiskey thing that one time. Sure. His milkshake brought me to the yard that day. Right. Uh, I watched you, uh, lovely,

uh, Bloody Mary at the plaza. Yeah, I do like a Bloody Mary. I'll admit to that. And I do like, uh, I like the thing on the cruise that we had in Canada.

I forgot the name of it. It was good. But I'm not really prone to any of this and the beer has never passed my face. Never even tried it. Yeah. My friends were all drinking it in high school and throwing up in my car, so that put me off. You know, even with me going to the beer fest every year, you're not, I don't want to say you're not missing anything because there are some beers I like. Anything from the Deep Draft Brewery in Bramerton, Washington, for example.

Oh, yeah, sure. No connection or any kind of reason to say that you like that. No, no, no, no whatsoever. No, none of that. yeah but uh uh you're not missing you know i'd say there are other drinks to have before you hit a beer yeah yeah i still and to this day i know berry this makes berry sad i i just even the fancy like three hundred dollar wine he brought last year i just used you at the time you seem to like i mean i like it and that i don't i'm not like dying big blind i think you genuinely like

i'm not like throwing up or going oh my gosh this is bad but i'm also not going i'm going to drink I didn't drink the whole thing. I couldn't. It's like I'll taste and go, all right, this tastes like dirt. That one tastes a little less like dirt. They all taste like dirt to me. I can't help it. And it's no offense to the wine community.

You guys are awesome. I'm making him some art. I don't want to give away too much, but he's a cork dork, and I'm making him something cool. Oh, right. I respect it. I respect the fandom and the people that are into it. Like, that's great.

It just all tastes like dirt to me. Sure, sure, sure. Anyway, tomato wine. If anyone has like a line on this, Brian and I would totally try this on the air. Yeah, totally. And then Taco Bell soon to come out with their own enchilada sauce tequila. So we'll try that as well. I would try that, yeah.

Well, what it would it be based on? They based it on one of their sauce packets, though, right? Wouldn't you think? Oh, it would be fire tequila or Diablo tequila. Yeah, Diablo tequila. And there's not a worm at the bottom. It's just a loose piece of lettuce. down there.

That's right. It's a cinnamon crisper. Oh, dude. Gross. But we try it is what we're saying. We'd try it. We'd try it. Google Doritos.

Vodka. Is this a thing? Hold on, chat. Dorito vodka. Oh, my gosh, it is. This is really a thing. Doritos flavored liquor is here. Food and wine.

Wow. This is real? I can get this. Brian, you could go get this right now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Look at that bottle. Empirical is the brand, I guess. Yeah.

Is it like a, let's see, return from lunch with a sandwich and a bag of Dorita. Zubba, Zubba, Zubba. Curious. Curiosity led me to turn the snack into a spirit. Upon tasting it, the result was amazing. We burst into laughter. We shared it with our friends. And then they decided to package it and go for it. Interesting. Again, I would try this. Infused. It's like a, how you infuse, uh, nacho cheese and, and vodka, but, uh, and why, and why a vodka, not a, uh, tequila again?

Good question. Um, do they smell like 12 year old gym feet? I don't know what to expect. Actually, I don't know if this, do they, they don't really ever say vodka, do they? They just say it's a spirit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. They don't say vodka on there. So who knows what they mean? I bet again, that's something I would taste. I have no desire to ingest much of it. that seems like a mistake all right yeah

let's uh let's take a break when we come back Amy will be here it's time to read time to read some books you know time to for second November visit

I'll add yeah yeah right it's a big long win in November so she got in twice and uh it's time to put down your phones and your your switches and your what nots

and read a book and she'll help you do that uh coming up after this break tell me what we got for a song before we do that sure Sure. This actually goes with a request we'll get to at the end of the show. But if you haven't heard of the band, Serenity, not Serenity, but Serenity, this is who you're about to hear. Indie pop artist, Serenity, beacon of authenticity is what Lady Dunn, sorry, laggy done because of her piercing narratives that capture the hearts and minds of anyone who listens. Nice.

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You never will You could try to feel the more of being You never will You never will I kept playing to myself I wasted all my time I do it still to leave you behind

Walk to Central Park Faces of strangers remind me of you Because you're a stranger to me now too Why'd I come to New York If I still see you You could try to change your heart, but I know you won't. You never will, you never will. You could try to feel the voice of being alone.

You're never well, you never will. I keep flying to myself. Where's still all my time? I do it still, I do it still. I went to New York to leave you behind You took me to the airport and just watched me go Didn't take my hand didn't tell me no Why'd you let me go?

Why'd you be so close? Should have fought for me instead of watch me leave I went to New York Without you You could try to change who you are But I know you won't You never will, you never will You could try to feel the void of being alone

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And we've returned. Tell me about serenity. Serenity. There you go. From Sacramento, California. That is Serenity. And the song, went to New York, a brand new single from her. Look for tours and EPs coming soon.

Nice. I went on a chiverch's tear yesterday. Oh, love the chiverch's tear. I don't know why. Just got in the mood. Just went down that playlist and played it like it was no end. It was great. They are great.

They're absolutely great. All right. Sit back, relax. Time for Amy to come and tell us why we need to learn more from the written word. I always type Amy. It's not. It's red fraggle. That's right.

Get it together, buddy. Type it the right way. Would you? Type it correctly. All right. Here we go. Let's play her little intro. One of the things that I enjoy also is reading.

Join with us and welcoming Amy to the show. Hi, Amy. Welcome to read this. Oh, hi, friends. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm pretty good.

Yeah, yeah. Can't complain. You got family stuff this week. Are you hosting or? No. No. We do a Friendsgiving every year. There's a friend of ours who does a.

gigantic thing for like you know between 60 and 80 people over at his house every year and uh yeah so he and his wife hosts and they i mean it's the food is always amazing because they have a lot of really cool diverse friends and folks bring things so there's i mean there's of course like a smoked turkey which is delicious and then and they make sangria and they you know i mean it's it's amazing and then um but yeah they have like lots of different diverse friends and so we'd get like some Indian food in there and, you know, just all kinds of cool stuff. There's a, there's a French guy who comes who is very impressed by Chuck's croissants. He always brings.

That's high praise if a French guy is appreciating. Yeah. Right. Well, and a French guy who owns a bakery, no less. Oh, wow. Yeah. Do they all smoke like chimneys? I always assume that everybody in France smokes like a chimney.

No, no. I don't think, I don't think he does smoke. And he might, Chuck might pop up in the chat and correct me. But I don't believe Oliver smokes. That's awesome. Oh, and his name is Oliver the Frenchman. That's amazing. Well, I added the last part.

But yeah, that's great. Oliver's the Frenchman. I wanted to, um, to talk, tell the story because you said the thing about like wine tastes like dirt and, um, it reminded me of this one time where, uh, some friends and I, you know, Chuck and I were off with like, uh, several friends of ours. We all went on a trip up. to Asheville and we stopped at this distillery and it was a moonshine distillery, which I had never had moonshine before. And apparently it's like all legit now. It's not just like some guy in the

back of the woods with, you know, a drug with three Xs on it anymore. It's like legit. And I like whiskey. You know, I'm like, okay, you know, I like doing whiskey tastings and stuff like that. It's really cool. And we sat down to taste this stuff. And I was like, oh, my God, it tastes like an old gym sock. I was just like it tastes like meat. And all the other people there just seem to like it. And I was like, what is wrong with me? And they told us that actually, you know, the way that certain spirits interact with your mouth chemistry, it can actually taste different to you. Kind of like how cilantro tastes like foil or soap to some people.

Right. Yeah. So I'm convinced that certain people, it's not just like a matter of preference necessarily. I am convinced that it's there's actually something to like people's mouth chemistry actually makes certain things taste different. So there you go. That might be it actually. Yeah. That could be it.

Yeah. You're totally valid to think that wine tastes like dirt. I will, I'll drink yours. There are times when I have super legit grapes, like the kind with the seed still in them, somebody grew them in their backyard, like they're the best, in theory, the best kind of non-processed grapes you can eat, and those tastes like dirt to me. So I think I've, I think there's a connection there with like fresh real grapes and then whatever the process is and then my palate just goes, oh, dirt, I don't know, it's weird.

Oh, how lovely dirt. I'll tell you this, though. Let me tell you what's weird. Let me tell you, it's a little weird. We go to this WinCo over here. It's like, you know, good priced, great grocery place. We love it there. I think I talked about it.

You bag your own groceries. That's how you save money. Anyway, they have these grapes there that I don't think are, I'm actually a little concerned about what we're eating because they're like so big. They're almost as big as like baby melons. Not, I mean, don't think too large, but like big enough to be, I don't know. Some of Brian are about as big as my iPod AirPod case. Golf ball?

Yeah, like that, but oval. but pretty big, close to a, you know what, reaching golf ball radius, yes, like aiming for that. Maybe ping pong ball radius. There you go, better, closer. But they're elongated, and they're amazing, and they're huge, and the bunches are, and there's no duds in the bunch. And all I can think of is, these are alien things that we're being forced to eat by some conspiracy. Like, what's going on with these? There's no way these are real.

The pod people were finding us. Finally, yeah. And it turns out the pods were grapes the whole time. They were here all the whole time. Anyway, weird stuff. Let's get into your books this week. We got a couple of clips. Tell me what you want to do here for these.

I do. So I feel a little bad because like juxtaposing the email you read earlier with my first book here is a little awkward. So we got some from column A and some from column B. So one of them is going to ask you to do a little bit of work. It's going to be a little bit more serious topic. But then I promise I will follow it up with a chaser that everybody will enjoy. It'll be fine. You'll be okay.

Fair enough. So, yes. So this first one, it, you know, it's timely, but we're, yeah, we're just going to talk about the topic itself. I'll just say that. And you can play that first clip. All right. Here we go. Racist.

One who is expressing an idea of racial hierarchy or through actions or inaction is supporting a policy that leads to racial inequity or injustice. anti-racist, one who is expressing an idea of racial equality or is actively supporting a policy that leads to racial equity or justice. That seems like a fair definition to me. Right. Yeah. So this is a clip from How to Be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi. And I felt like this was a good time to, because, you know, a lot of us are,

a lot of us are kind of reeling a little bit. And I promise I'm not going to dip too far into that well. But, but a lot of this are just kind of reflecting on, including myself, on how we have difficult conversations. And, you know, so I felt like it was a good time to sort of discuss how, you know, most of us, I realize we have a diverse listening audience here. But everybody on the microphone right now is a white person. So I'll talk to us. Some of us on the microphone are very white. I mean, I would venture to say all of us. That's true. We've all got, we're like sheets of paper here. We're ready to be written by it.

Let's do it. Right. Hey, that's a good metaphor. Really, really white people are like a clean sheet of paper. Time to rewrite who we are and how we behave. That's not bad. That's not bad. Sure.

That sounds like, you know, art. You can make some art out of that. Yeah, maybe I'll draw it. It sounds better drawn than it does said. Anyway. So, yeah, it's, to me, you know, we've reached kind of a time where I think when we were growing up, it was, and I can speak for myself here, it was kind of the, okay, well, we don't need to, we don't need to talk about racism anymore. Racism's over, right? Like, we could just, everybody's people, right?

And it was considered a virtue to say things like, oh, I don't see color. You know, I just see people. it's disingenuous right like of course you see them unless you are actually physically blind of course you see that the person in front of you is black or a person of color you know of any color um so of course you see that you cannot it's disingenuous to claim that you don't see it and pretending that it's not there is not good enough uh you know we we have to we have to sort of actively work against the racist systems, particularly in America. But I mean, racism is everywhere. Sure. It's everywhere. So, but and Bobby points out, this was actually

the next point I was about to make as well. I grew up in the South. Bobby also says those of us who grew up in the South, that was definitely the tone amongst the white people. So true. I don't need to tell you how much work I had I have had to do and I'm continuing to do to unlearn what I learned growing up and and it is it is work and this author is particularly good because he he shows a lot of grace a lot of patience it there's not there's not a preachy tone to it's he's not going to shame you for being white right you're not going to you're not going to come away from this book feeling like, oh, I'm a bad person because I'm white, you know, like that's not what he's, that's not what he's doing. He is, he's, and he's a scholar.

I mean, this guy's really, really smart and the book is very intelligent, right? So this is, it's not an easy read, but it's a good read. Yeah. So, so I would say start, and if you don't want to start with this book, pick up literally any book written by a person of color that that actually talks to their perspective as a person of color, because your perspective will change. Even if it's fiction, you know, but if it's fiction, make sure it somehow incorporates their experience as being a person of color, right? A parable of the sower is a good choice. Their mom-a-day, which I think I've recommended here before by Gloria Nailer, also good.

Oh, you have. Yeah, you have recommended. I was just going to say that one's really familiar that name. Yeah, that one's one of my all-time favorite books. And anything by Tony Morrison, amazing. And those are, they're fiction. So if you prefer like a story to, you know, like a nonfiction, almost a textbook, then go with that.

But literally just pick up a book. And you can start the way that you start to on like a journey. And that's what this author refers to it. as like being an anti-racist is a journey it's not and you're never done and we're all going to we're all going to mess it up all of us do and the author even talks about uh how on the first the first edition of his book uh he had to do a lot of work to sort of erase some of the more ableist vocabulary from his own mind you know and he had to stop himself from you know saying things like crazy, you know, or I forget some of the other examples he used, but, you know, he, he shows

grace in that even for him, it is important to unlearn some of these harmful learned behaviors, sometimes that are completely unconscious. I know you guys are Gen X, and I am too. So I had to really work to erase the r slur from my just immediate vernacular right like that was just like that was just completely like offhanded something was incredibly inane or just unbelievably dumb we say oh that's r right right oh i thought you meant okay yeah got it sorry it just rolled right off the tongue, right? That was very common when we were growing up for people to just throw that around. It was nothing.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it's and, but it can be done, you know, because I thought at first when that became, when that kind of came into the forefront of awareness for me, at least, I was like, man, I have said this just as a, you know, a colloquialism forever. Like, I'm never going to be able to get this out of my mouth. Are you kidding me? you can you know I I don't say it anymore and my kids don't say it they started to and they

came home from middle school one day saying that word and I was like no we're not going to go that way um so anyway but accepting that it's a journey and it's a journey for all of us for like you know any type of of social and racial equity is important and it's it's work for all of us but it's really good work. So I would say start by listening. Just follow if you, if you like, you know, hanging out on social media, I've got a couple of recommendations for you of people you can follow who do, you know, do really good anti-racist education type content. One of them is called the White Woman Whisperer, which is kind of hilarious. Another, her name is Portia Noir, like, you know, like French for Black, like Portia dot noir.

And they, their content is really, really good. But I would say start by following and don't comment at all. Yeah. Like just, just listen to them. And if they say something that sort of activates something inside of you and you feel defensive, even though there's a stranger on the internet, they don't know you, obviously they're not talking to you, but us white people, man, we hear stuff and we want so badly, we want to be one of the good ones. Right. We want, we, we are the well-meaning white people.

We, no, not me. It's not, I'm not doing that. And, and I think, and I can speak for myself here, I think that we mean well when we do that. We like, we want badly for this person's pain. We want to say, hey, I hear you, I see you. I'm a safe person. I'm sorry you've been through that, right? It's not necessarily that we're centering ourselves there, but actually we are. We're centering ourselves. And so I would say anytime you hear something that makes you feel some kind of way, before you run to the comment section, pull out a journal and write it down there instead and reflect on it and say, why did this person who doesn't know me at all? why did them saying something that didn't have anything to do with personally me make me feel some kind of way and really think about that? I had that experience with a book, interestingly enough.

When I first read The Calculating Stars by Mary Robinette Kowal, there is a scene in that book where she is trying to recruit some of the black women pilots to help her get some more visibility for women in the space program. and one of, one of them seems receptive to it and the other one is not interested in what this white lady has to say, right? And, and she says, she says to her, you know, well, I'm, I'm giving, I'm trying to give you a chance to fly here. I'm not asking you to like clean floors. And she says, see, that's how they see us. Yeah. You know, and, and then, you know, the, the scene continues, right. And the main character says, nope, she's, she's absolutely right. Please apologize

for me. You know, I'm, that's, that's absolutely correct. And when I read that, it made me feel some kind of way. I was like, well, hang on. Like, she didn't mean anything by it. And I was like, ah, that's the point. Yeah. Right? It's exactly the point.

And so that really kind started me kind of reflecting on my own internalized racism and, And, you know, all the things and, like, why we feel like we're, we feel entitled to be seen as a good white person. Yeah. Right. And really, we're not. Like, it, you know, it's very similar to the discourse on the internet recently about, you know, where they asked women like, hey, would you rather meet a man or a bear in the woods?

And women, like, all chose the bear. And there were some men who got very up in their feels about that. So, and honestly, from this perspective, white people, you know, they would rather the bear than us. Yeah. Right. And we need to, we need to learn how to sit with that and accept it. What is this? I think that's a big part of it.

What do you think it says about me that when that question was rolling around, would you rather see a man in the woods or a bear in the woods? And my answer was also, I would rather see the bear? Like, what does that say about me? we watch too many harm movies Maybe yeah I also don't trust a strange man in the woods really I don't for sure even if I'm that strange man Like I may not even be aware that I'm the guy

I get why you don't want me there I get it yeah no like Believe me Scott if I didn't know you And I saw you in a you know I was walking through the woods I'd be like okay how can I back away slowly Yeah tall tall creepy guy White man does not see me and I can get away And guess what I don't have?

I don't have resting happy face. I look like I'm pissed all the time. So I look like a menace when people don't know me. And I really kind of hate it as kind of a curse. But I've had enough time growing up as a dad of two daughters to know how they feel when they are in that situation. And it terrifies me. Like they, you know, you wouldn't believe that the stuff you don't know, if you've got daughters, the stuff you don't know they've been through that they hopefully will someday tell you. you. I hope they do because it's a revelation. It's like, really? Like just at the mall or just at that

movie theater? Really? This happens? Like, yeah. It's crazy. Sorry, Stephanie. I keep kicking my desk and my camera moves. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, and for sure. And you're, you're absolutely right. And that's, that's exactly now, you know, now extend that to people of color because it was so eye opening. The first time I heard even some of my friends tell me, you know, their first or their first or their most recent encounter with racism, you know, it's, and the, the really shocking and heartbreaking thing is that they are not shocked or heartbroken by it. It's just everyday life. It's just how they live. Right. Isn't that crushing? That's horrible. Yeah. It's not something you should ever be able to get used to. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so that's why I feel like it, I feel like it's

important to to reflect on this and and do our work, you know, and I, I kind of hate the phrase do the work because it's been so overused that it doesn't, it's kind of losing its meaning a little bit because a lot of people are like, great, I'm here to do the work. What's the work? You know, you know, what is it? And it starts with ourselves. It starts by doing exactly what I said, which is if when when someone, it tells you something and that that really has nothing to do with you, but it makes you feel some kind of way, just stop and reflect. And white woman whisper has this great little acronym that she calls weight, like W-A-I-T, and it means why am I talking?

That sounds like something Wendy, Wendy would encourage also is this listening before you talk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's great advice. Like, why am I talking? And somebody else said that a long time ago about discourse on the internet. It's like, okay, am I adding something to the conversation that is useful?

Is it kind? Is it necessary? You know, like any of that, right? Like, and so that plays into that as well. The, why am I talking? Yeah. So I think, I think as white people, I think it's a good idea for us to, we need to talk to each other.

But I think, I think it's time for us to be a little more quiet. and we we need to listen a little bit more. And on that note, we're all going to screw it up. We always do. And just accept, yep, I mess that up. And my bad, and just move along. There's a lot of power. There's a lot of power in an apology as well.

Like, if you really mean it, you've screwed up and you've, you know, I try to do this as often as I can. And there are times where it's hard. Your ego gets in the way. You're sure that you were right until you're not, you know, all those things. And then if you can find a way, even if it's not dealing with race, it's dealing with just sensitivity to anything where somebody else is, you know, being hurt by what you said or whatever, that's so, there's so much power in being able to really apologize, not fake it, not say it just to get out of being having the spotlight on you, but really mean it. You can change, you can change lives with that stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, and the important thing, too, is to center the person who has been wronged. Don't center yourself, right? So, so what that looks like. like is, you know, if I accidentally say, I don't know, misgender somebody, you know, and I just say, oh, sorry, and correct myself and then move on, right?

If you, if you blubber over it and I'm so sorry. I'm trying so hard and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this, that, it's become about you. Yeah, you've once again made it about you, yeah. Right. So, yeah, it's, it's, you know, and I understand, believe me, I understand the, I understand the, because I have it too. You know, I want, I want my friends to feel safe around me, obviously, right?

But it's something that you earn by knowing the people and being kind. You don't, it's not something that you can assert, well, it's not me. I'm safe. Well, you just became a little less safe because you made my conversation. about racism about yourself, you know? And so, so I, it's, it's, it's good. It's, it's good work to do. And the final note and that I promise I'm going to move on because I know we're

running out of time and I promised you guys a little chaser of fun at the end. And I'm getting there. But the last thing is, don't, unless you've been invited to do so, don't ask your friends of color to do the work for you. they are tired right like don't if you're if you're having a conversation about it great and and you have a question about something great but google is free and and there are there are books all over the place about about about racism in america about people's experiences what and whatnot if you're if you're talking to your friend and you know it and of course like

use your good judgment there, but don't go asking a person of color. Like, hey, how can I be anti-racist? Like, Google it. You know, you got the book that Amy just recommended. So perfect. Exactly. Exactly. So, yes, how to be an anti-racist. And like I said, there's, if I've got many more suggestions for anyone who wants to do further reading, please feel free. Reach out to me. Let me know. I will give you a host of reading lists. And I do recommend people follow White Woman Whisperer and Portia Noir. Okay. So that's it.

All right. Now, time for the fun chaser. All right. It's time, y'all. The new dungeon crawler Carl book is out. Yeah. I'm just like spilering. I'm spoiling my clip already.

But the fun thing about this is this clip is a little different. And you'll see what I mean after you play it. So go ahead with that second clip. All right. Here we go. Here goes. I'm so happy. I got to tell you, honey.

Quasar said, You really need an exfoliating treatment. You really need an exfoliating treatment. Maybe put some lotion on those hands. Look, asshole. Tempest said. Tempest said, looking up. I don't criticize how you do your lawyering.

I don't criticize those stupid ties you insist on wearing. You don't need to criticize how I fix your plumbing, especially when we both know I have no idea what I'm doing. Tits. I'm not criticizing your work. I'm just pointing out how rough your skin looks. What the fuck does my skin have to do with anything? Are you some...

What the fuck does my skin have to do with anything? What the fuck does my skin have to do with anything? Are you some sort of perfect? And we agreed to trade. So get talking. We got blooper reel. Yes. So I'm going to throw this link in the chat.

And Brian also has it. So we could probably add it to the QMS. Yep. So the audiobook for this for it, this is Dungeon Crawler Carl 7, this inevitable ruin. And it's just been released. And so that clip is from Jeff Hayes doing live streams of recording the audio book. The audio book is not out yet. It doesn't come out until February.

So yeah. So if you go and follow, I'm throwing it in the chat right now. If you go and follow Soundbooth Theater, he does live. streams of him recording it and so and it's great it's any of you who even if you just kind of admire voice actors and what they can do I absolutely recommend tuning in to one of these live streams now they're really long so you know I mean it's something that's good to maybe have on in the background what you're doing other things but occasionally go look at him look at like the physicality because all of those voices are all him they're all Jeff

Hayes and it is so much fun to watch him watch him work. You know what impresses me too is how the editors have to take all that and then go and make it right because they're recording all those takes. They don't stop. They just have a big ton of audio and they may be marking as they

go for knowing where to be and stuff but for the most part those guys have to go then through sometimes 10 hours of audio or more because of the bloopers or the re-reads or whatever and they got to go chop out the best one. They get a lot of work. It's a lot of work. so yeah yeah oh definitely and i think i think jeff hayes is his own producer so

now so he's got to go back and he's got to go back and do it all like that and that's why he said it like three times you know like so i just thought that what was particularly fun that one voice he was doing like i put the chicken noises in there because you know dungeon crawler carl has blue language in it uh so you know his his version of it did not have the the chicken noises uh those are F bombs. So there you go. But yeah, I just thought that was particularly fun. And yeah, so go and check it out. I think he's done about four or five of them now. I am actually myself, I'm saving them because I haven't actually finished reading the book yet. And so I'm going to save watching them for after I'm done reading it so that I don't get spoiled or anything. But yeah. So there you go. There's your little, your little candy. chaser after you took your medicine. So appreciate you. Let me, uh, let me bring a little, no, I like it. It's also, it's also, yeah, it's also a good reminder. Yeah, exactly. You want your,

you can't have, everything can't be, uh, better and sometimes too sweet. You got to have a little mix. I like it. Yeah, exactly. Well, and, you know, there's been a lot of discourse. I, I, I spend some time on TikTok and, and unsurprisingly, book talk. And, uh, it, there's kind of two, contingencies there right now. And, you know, obviously folks are talking about politics a lot and, you know, including people who are on book talk. And there's a whole bunch of white ladies who are all and being like, can we not make book talk political? And I'm like, oh my God, books are political. I love that voice. That's an amazing voice you just made. I can see their hairdos and everything when you do that. That's insane. Oh, my God. No, I'm not joking when I say one, one of,

of the ladies who is complaining about book talk being political, she's an author. Her book is about going back in time and falling in love with a Nazi. Ah, well, there you have it then. And somehow books are not political. What? Like, sure. So anyway, but yeah, so I was like, all right, you know, we don't, we don't have to talk about, you know, that part of it. But, you know, it's good to I subdued a lot of book talk on TikTok and they're all horror and genre books. That's it. horror and like zombies and sci-fi and fantasy I've got I think I've really curated mine down I'd never get any kind of like speculative fiction outside of you know again something that's kind of genre based I never get like nonfiction I don't get any of that stuff I've really honed my thing to be fantasy worlds zombies and vampires and that's it that's all I get yeah and the vampire stuff even good I'm even better at that because it's none of the frilly stupid sparkly crap it's like the good vampires the good vampires yeah the gory ones yeah right oh i do have a quick recommendation in that vein um i am reading a series of mystery not mystery novels crime novels by i forgot her name i'm

going to look at it up real quick she makes this series called the will trint series and she's been doing it for 20 years um recent one just came out let's see here it is will trint i think there may even be a tv show adaptation that exists somewhere and i just don't know about it yeah yeah um oh yeah there it is right there i should check that out now that i've read a couple of these but anyway karen slaughter is her name the author they're really good uh sometimes dark sometimes pretty gritty but if you are into like um a less than perfect protagonist detective type and some really crazy crimes to solve uh they're they're highly regarded and i decided to check one out and got hooked and i've read like three now um so worth maybe checking those out i didn't know

this was a show though that's crazy when did this happen yeah it's so funny i was just talking to brian about that the other day about how like sometimes when they make a show or a movie out of a book i can tell i'm like it just feels like a book you know and and i i did that with silo i was like you know because we were watching silo and we've got to like i don't know like episode two or three and i was like this is a book this has to be a book this feels like a book yeah and sure enough it was And I was like, oh, sweet. And, you know, of course, I was, they're dropping them one episode at a time. And I was impatient.

So I went and read all of the books. That's right. I remember when we're, yeah, when the first season came out, you had told us that you, you went through and said that. I can't wait for the next season. I'm just going for it. I'm just going to read all the books. Yeah, exactly. Well, now I've got to check this out.

It's freaking A.B. Same way. It's ABC, though, is the problem. I don't know if I trust these guys. Yeah. I know, terrestrial. Yeah. Sometimes there's good stuff

from terrestrial TV. Yeah, they usually cancel it real quick. Like if you told me this got canceled in a season and a half, I'd go, oh, it was probably good. I'll go check it out. Well, anyway, that's a little side recommendation for folks. Amy, always good to talk to you. I hope your month, or however long it is

till we have you on again, is filled with puppets, muppets, and crumpets. I don't know, whatever else you want. Oh, it shall be. That sounds good. Yeah. And, yeah, let us know, you know, how your Thanksgiving goes. I want to hear about all the French food that got brought by the non-smoking Frenchmen. Oh, I will.

Y'all too. I hope you have a good Thanksgiving, and may your turkey be moist. Nice. Oh, sure will be. And we'll probably see you on play date, maybe, right? Maybe. Oh, you definitely will see me on play date. I never miss a play date if I can help it.

We get that coming up real quick, so we'll see you then. All right, Brian, we have come to the part of the show where I finish things by reading this here email. uh it's actually a text it says this is from the mcdermits of alaska all right okay is dillon mcdermit uh dillon mcdermit dermick dromik dromik dermi there it is dermick mcrollney is who this is says i've listened since the beginning and i've raised our kids on tm s when scott makes the doodle joke last week we all had a chuckle because of scott we've called our boy parts a man doodle or just doodle because we thought it was funny now we have a 10 year old who always laughs when anyone says doodle. It is our little TMS joke says the McDermott's.

Well, the McDermots, despite your proximity to Russia, we think you're awesome. So thanks for being up there. That's right. It is true, though, if we ever got invaded by Russia, like, directly, it would be over there. It'd be through Alaska, right? Maybe. I mean, it's not like they could gain a lot by going through Alaska, because then they still have to go through Canada to get to the mainland U.S. so that's true uh and they did what uh the mon movie they did it through cuba or the cubans did

it for russia through the southern through texas right or oh oh you're talking about not civil war that's called the the 80s movie they made it they tried to remake it um yeah red don't red don't they did it that way so i don't know i just don't think it'll be east coast west coast i think it'll either be hat or or pants is where they'll come up i don't know but anyway I love Alaska, and you guys are awesome. Thanks for that note. That's going to do it for today's program. Don't forget to check out our website where everything is there,

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Just search for morning stream, and you'll find us. And they'll be like live, show links. and reposts of the shows after they're posted, this kind of stuff. I think that place is ripe for good content from shows. So that's why we've done it for most of the frog pant shows. And if you want to go check that out, you can. Again, that is morning stream on Blue Sky. That is going to do it for us.

Brian, let's get out with a song. Sure. This one is going to Vito Cestito. I love that name. Wow. It says, hi, Scott and Brian. As my favorite podcasters, I was wondering if you could play a song from my favorite band. On the 23rd of November, I head off to see Crowded House for the sixth time,

and I'm as excited to see them as I was when I was 18, heading off to Festival Hall in Melbourne, Australia, to see them for the first time back in 1987. They have a special place in my heart, as you guys do as well, almost. Thank you for all that you do, Vito Sestito, the Italio-Australian living in New Zealand as I married a Kiwi, but heading back to Oz to live in the new year. Wow. Is it really that's a real nice? name then i don't want to presume anything i don't know if it really is vito but uh love but i i envy anybody who has a name that rhymes uh you know the the tv producer marcy darcy or whatever marcy carcy something like something like yeah like i would love like in brian's case could be like ryan o'brien

or yeah exactly scott mcots or some shit i love that i don't know why i think it's great and plus you just you sound italian and you sound Like, you would like the wine they're making over there at Pizza Hut and excited for them. Well, and in Australia, you can get a nice shiraz, too. And I'm trying to remember how many times I've seen crowded house, because it is probably pretty close to six times if you count Neil Finn Solo and Finn Brothers. Because my first time was the Woodface tour, and then been seeing them just about every time they come to Colorado over since.

We skipped this year. we didn't because we went to, we saw them last year. You're a hardcore fan. I'm a hard car, crowded house fan. Hard car, crowded har. Exactly. Har. Har.

All right. How about a cover? This is their cover of Fred Neal or Harry Nilsson. Fred Neal wrote it, recorded first. Harry Nelson had a big hit with it, used it for the film, Midnight Cowboy. This is Crowded House cover of it, which was recorded for Triple J's Like a Version. version, not virgin, like a version for in 2008, it is, everybody's talking. All right, two, three, four.

people stopping staring I can't see their faces only the shadows of their eyes I'm going where the sun keeps shining through the pouring rain Going where the weather suits my clothes Back in off of the northeast wind Sailing on a summer breeze

Skipping over the ocean like a stone I'm going where the sun keeps shining through the pouring rain going where the weather suits my clothes Back in off of the northeast wind, sailing on a summer breeze, and skipping over the ocean like a stone. Those Those pants are made for frog in, if you know what I actually don't. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-h-h-h-h-h-h-h...