The Morning Stream - TMS 2743: Goat Goat Car

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Flowers for Algebra. Make Turkey Gravy Again. Charcuterie Charade. Save Me the Turkey Butthole! Dillweed and Dunaway. Buzzing In My Special Place. Paradoxing Pinocchio. My Nose Grows Now. Leading you ...down the Nyquil path. The turkey IS the mascot. Rated R for Rural. Yellow Hat Cheaters. V is for Veronica... and Vendetta. Tech Time Without Tom. Easy mode Thanksgiving with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Anyway, join our Patreon at patreon.com slash TMS. Coming up on the morning stream, flowers for algebra. Make turkey gravy again. Sharkouterie charade. Save me the turkey butthole. Dill weed and Dunaway. Buzzing in my special place. Paradoxing Pinocchio. My nose grows now. Leading you down the Nyquil path. The turkey is the mascot. Rated R for rural. Yellow Hat Cheaters. V is for Veronica and Vendetta. Tech time without Tom. Easy Mode Thanksgiving with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Now here's my office. If you will direct your eyes to the floor, you'll see a yellow line. Follow it. It will lead you around my desk and back out the door. Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong. The morning stream. If you have job, you wear the pants. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, November 27th, 2024. Scott Johnson here, Brian Abbott there. Good morning. Hello, happy Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. Don't forget to put cookies and milk out for the, great turkey. That's right. I guess we don't really have. Thanksgiving doesn't have like a mascot, does it? Have some treats for, I mean, the turkey is the mascot. Yeah. For the most part.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Because every, every mattress ad and has to have a turkey in there. But, you know, have some stuff to give the Thanksgiving carolers that might stop by your door and decorate the Thanksgiving tree, all that stuff. Sure. Actually, we haven't, you said mattress and it reminded me we haven't. We haven't gotten an update on whether you like your new mattress or not. Oh, you know, I am liking it. I still have a little bit of hip pain.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Like at about 4 o'clock, I'll wake up, and I can't flip over on either side because it just hurts. Yeah. So we're still breaking in the, you know, the medium firmness of this thing. Right. It's getting a lot better. So I just grabbed the body pillow that Mike Picholik was nice enough to send, and that usually solves the problem. I'm pretty sure Petcholik is responsible for this rainbow colored basketball I got in the mail, but there was no name on it. And it's for the Monday show, because we had this theory that if you say something near your phone that it listens to you and then we'll advertise it to you.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So we kept saying, and we made something up. We just said, rainbow colored basketball. It was just a random thought. And then we were waiting for our phones to do it for a couple of weeks. And we're like, well, maybe it isn't because we haven't had a single ad. And then all of a sudden in the mail, rainbow basketball showed up with no name. I'm pretty sure it was Mike Petcholk. Pretty sure is a pacholik. That is his MO, for sure.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Seems like something he would do. Anyway, well, that's great. I hope that continues to mold itself to your body. I hope so, too, and best not to even just visualize it. I don't know. I'm kind of picturing it now, and I don't know. It feels funny. I'm sorry, that's on you.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's giving me a buzzing feeling in my special place, if you know what I'm saying. Buzzing. Yeah, a little bit of buzzing. That probably needs to... Carbinated meat or something, what's going on? Need to have that looked at, I guess. Yes, so. We got a quick text I want to start the show with today.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I called it rated R for rural. I don't know why, because it really doesn't have anything to do with it. But here's what the tuck says. This is from somebody who lives in Missouri, although they did not leave their name. Says on Monday's TMS, you were discussing if students were out of school yet for Thanksgiving. Around here, they are. In fact, they also had last week off for deer season, the joys of living in rural Missouri. Now, I have some memory of growing up having a little bit of deer season off.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Really? But I don't hunt, so we didn't use it for that. And I have zero memories of, like, how we would have used that time. So it's very vague in my memory that we had it. But I'm almost sure we had a little extra time. Maybe not a week. You're sure you're not thinking of duck season. No, it's rabbit season.
Starting point is 00:04:52 No, it's duck season. I mean, it was one of my favorite cartoons as a kid, but no. This would be the other way around. Daffy would be saying it's rabbit season. Bugs would be saying it's ducks. It was either that or people that I knew would take swaths of time to go hunting. We never did.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I mean, hunting is no bigger in Utah than it is in any of the other mountain states. Like hunting is, you know, hunting is done here, but it's not, I've never heard of time off, time off for deer season. Yeah. Unless the deer are so aggressive and they tend to congregate around schools and then it turns a whole different thing.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, you don't need... Oh, no, no, it's deer season. We're not letting the kids anywhere near the schools because... Yeah, you don't need a bunch of deer sneaking around a school. It was creepy. Right. Right. I don't remember. Honestly, I just don't remember.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I just, it is a big deal here, but it's not, like you said, it's not like overwhelmingly a big deal. Skiing's a bigger deal here or... Yeah, yeah. Ten other things are ahead of it, but it was enough of a big deal that a huge swath of my friends would go. I wouldn't. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And it felt like we had extra time off for that. But maybe I just confused it with the time we already had off and they just used it for that. I don't know. Maybe you did. You had some weird stuff out there that, you know, not go lie, as the kids say. NGL, but you had some weird. I don't know why I would, I wouldn't pick, like, I would think Montana for hunting. I would think, geez, like states, stereotypic states, I would think for hunting.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I'd think Idaho for hunting. Montana. I think even Wyoming. Wyoming, good one, yeah, that's good. But I wouldn't just immediately say Missouri. I just wouldn't think of that. I don't know why. I'm sure, obviously, it's true.
Starting point is 00:06:35 They have a week off for deer hunting season. Sure. Never been to rural Missouri. I hope that you're somewhere close to the Wood Whisper because he has wood. We have a friend who does go out and hunt deer, which is, you know, as people are pointing out in the chat room, good, because it does control. deer population, which can get out of hand. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But he does actually process the meat and make sausage and stuff like that all, you know, spring and summer we can go over there and get deer sausage. And I think that's pretty much it. I think he just focuses on sausage. I'm trying to think he's never offered us a deer steak or a deer burger or anything like that. You ever have elk jerky? It's fantastic. I have had elk jerky.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Oh, my gosh. At first, it's a little overwhelming. The flavor is really strong, but then you're just like, that's all I want is elk jerky for the rest of my life. It's so good. Oh, it's so, so good, yeah. I'm a big fan of the, you know, like lamb. I'm not afraid of meat that has a little bit of a gamey flavor to it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Me neither. Me neither. I'm not going to eat it all the time or too much of it or whatever, but I'll definitely eat it. I like a bison burger that's actually, you know, who must hate us over the last couple of days, vegans. They must just hate us. Because all we,
Starting point is 00:07:59 we've had so many references to meat, Turkey, how to make a turkey. I mean, this is the time of year that we start thinking about specific meats. Turkey is a very specific
Starting point is 00:08:09 meat for this time of year. We're not going to not talk about turkey. Yeah. We got to talk turkey. Yeah. Let's get, you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:16 There's enough in the culture wars to get all worked up about. Let's keep turkey. Make turkey great again. That's what I'm saying. Make turkey great again. Yes, exactly. Well,
Starting point is 00:08:23 thank you for Mr. Missouri man whose name he did not leave, we appreciate the info. That's crazy. Kids must love that, even if you're not a hunting kid, like having the week off. No, kidding. Awesome. Absolutely. I mean, a week is a lifetime for a kid. That's amazing. You know how much Mario you can play in 1985 for a week? Exactly. I'm not going deer hunting. I'm going Gumba hunting. Going cuba hunting. Gumba hunting sounds almost like you're hunting Italians. A little racist sounding. Yeah. Yeah. I'm hunting some mobster Italians.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't know. Gaba ghoul. What are you going to put out the gabagool for the family? We have some of that for Taylor's got for Thanksgiving. Like plates are like snack tray stuff for Thanksgiving. It's like, you know, pre-mill. Gabagool. Some, what's the other one?
Starting point is 00:09:19 There's another kind of like thin meat they like. It's not. Like that a shark utery, basically putting out charcutory is what they're doing. of pickled stuff you got your pickled asparagus oh man i never even talking about this last week um we it was our no i'm sorry two weeks ago is our trivia tuesday week no it was last week because the week earlier it was um uh puzzle pint so last tuesday not yesterday but a week ago uh did trivia and it was a smaller group of us than usual because one one of our uh friends was sick and so he stayed home. So it was me and Tina and then another couple. And we still did very well because
Starting point is 00:09:56 the woman in that couple is a former Jeopardy contestant, a former who wants to be a millionaire contestant. Oh my gosh. She's, you know, she's great at this stuff. And her husband is no slouch either. He's really good too. Sure. So we get there and this is usually a place that has a, as the prize, a $50 gift card to any of the restaurants in the place. It's one of those dining halls where You've got a bunch of different choices, and you can use the gift card at any of them. So we go in there and they say, hey, tonight's trivia is brought to you by Amazing Graze, G-R-A-Z-E. They are a charcutory company, so in addition to the gift card, you're also going to be getting a charcutory tray. Like, well, that's really weird.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Like, do we have to, it's nine o'clock. This will end at nine o'clock at night. A winner will be crowned at nine o'clock at night. Do we have to consume that charcutory tray tonight before it goes? bad or how do we divide it up between you know two couples sure so we we do end up taking second place that team that i think uh texts in the bathroom does google searches in the oh that team again that team uh one there's a whole i'm not even going to go into that there was a whole question that was word or wrong yet they still were they were the only ones in the
Starting point is 00:11:15 in the bar that answered it correctly and there was a flip-flopped part part of the question that caused all the rest of us to say, yep, we're not answering that. We're not going to rest of the points. Oh, boy. Anyway, yeah. So we take second place and we have a charcutory tray for four is our prize. So we go up and I said, well, okay, I'll get our name on the list. We don't have to have the charcutory tray tonight.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It's just on the list. They're like, you guys take it, enjoy it. We don't need a charcutory tray. So it's going to T and I at some point. But our name's on the list. We just have to walk up there next time we, whenever we want it, and then they'll pull it out of a fridge for us. So I said, oh, well, we'll stick around and get the, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:02 if you guys want to go ahead, I'll get the gift card and bring that for us next time. And then the guy says, oh, yeah, sorry, I made a mistake. Tonight's prize is only the sharky tree. Oh, man. Really? Like a prize that. what a weird that's a little weak switch to a different prize yeah i don't love that is this the place by the way in this photo you put on blue sky that is exactly it yeah so look at this is like one
Starting point is 00:12:30 of those this is like like you called it if what do you call it um the dining hall dining hall i love these kind of places big fan this one's great too uh freedom street social they um incredible wing place back there cedes wings um tina does not look there's a very very last minute of tina photo She wasn't ready for it. It is, you know, like, are you taking a picture of me, the face? That's actually what Tina looked like when she found out the prez was a charcutory track. Yeah, I was going to say. Even that salad looks good, though.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I eat that. That's a really, really good salad. Salad came from the pizza place, Miss Amy's pizza, which is down there. You see that bright light in the far corner there. That says pizza. You just can't tell because it's all blurry. That's great. I love those places so much.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, and right there, that woman with the weird hair and then the dude with the yellow hat looking at an iPad, those, that's the cheating group. They look like, they look like they might be up to shit. Look at them. Yeah. He just always keeps that iPad out, even though the guy says, yeah, phones and stuff, we're going to dock you points and all that. If you have your phone out or any device, he leaves it on the table and just dims it to the point where, where I can see it, but if you're walking around, you can't really tell that it's on, but that's dimmed. I can still see lines on there indicating that there's windows open. I also have questions about this hair, but I'll, I'm just curious about it. I'm not like judging. I don't know enough about it. I just have questions. That's all.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I got questions. I don't have any answers for you. Okay. Fair enough. That place looks rad, though. It looks like a fun place to do it. It's really, really good. Yeah. So we're going to. keep an eye out for when they say, okay, the sponsorship by Amazing Graze is over. We're back to gift cards and that's when we'll go back. That's great. I do like a good charcutory, but I don't like it when it's a stand-in for a good prize, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Exactly. It should never be a replacement. It should be a compliment to your regular prize. Now, the thing I'm going to talk about now people may have heard of before, this was my first exposure to it, and it really got my brain in a twist. And I want to share it with you. Have you heard, Brian, of the Pinocchi paradox. I have not. Is that when you go in a time machine and you go back in time and you kill Pinocchio? No, I wish. Okay. All right. Okay. More of a Hitler thing, but, you know, he was grandfather paradox is where I was going. Oh, yeah. Right, right. So this is not that, but it is, it is,
Starting point is 00:15:06 for me, it was blind blowing. And apparently it's been around forever. This thing started. This thing was a conversation people are having as early as the mid-1800s about this Pinocchio paradox, which makes sense because that's around the time what was the year that came out uh oh actually a little later 1883 is when the novel came out and then someone asked the question pretty quickly so here's the paradox okay if pinocchio says my nose grows now and is and is a version of the liar paradox all right so it's this basically is a liar it's like the two doors you know the one tells the truth one tells a lie kind of that's a little bit like that so if we know about pinocchio his core thing is that if he lies, his nose grows, right?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Right, right. So there's this big question about, well, if he doesn't knowingly lie, does it grow? If he says, if he says the earth is flat but doesn't actually know that it's round, will it grow? Or because he doesn't know, is there a fairness factor there anyway, there's that whole thing. Boy, that's a really, if it is, that seems like a really good way to find things out. Like my birthday present from you, my surprise present from you is going to be a car. Nope, okay. My surprise present is going to be a TV.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Nope, okay. Right. Exactly. So this is how it goes. It says, if he says, my nose grows now, then as the statement, the sentence is false. It's not growing now. Right. Because his nose is not growing now, technically. Right. So it would be a lie. Right. So this house says, this sentence is false. The sentence is false is true. Then it is false. It would mean that it is technically true. That also is false. and so on with no end it's just an eternal like mess that's why it's a paradox because if it's a lie his nose does grow making the statement true which then means his nose shouldn't grow yeah right but it's a lie which means it should but it's not growing so it's true or that it's Schrodinger's nose it's both the truth and a lie at the same time I just got down the wildest rabbit hole with this and I just had never thought of it before because you see like Pinocchio the Disney one or even
Starting point is 00:17:14 the old book or you know versions of it and it's just like well yeah he gets kidnapped and he gets suckered into going to the fair the whatever it was the carnival and and he's got the nose thing and he's a puppet come to life and there's all kinds of stuff around the edges of it that you just pay attention to never once did i consider the fact that there is that hole with the nose the whole nose deals yeah it's a loophole and i and now i that's all i'm going to think of from now on when i think Pinocchio is that? You have a version of the movie where Geppetto says, hmm, let's try this. Pinocchio say, uh, my nose grows now. And then, and then like Pinocchio's head starts, it's like that semen scanners and it just explodes. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, it's a weird,
Starting point is 00:17:59 if you do it in the present tense or the, or future tense, it actually changes the paradox. There's this whole other aspects to it that you can go read about. I would highly, recommend checking out the Wikipedia article for the Pinocchio Paradox. If you've never heard of this, it is a great philosophical exercise for your brain. Just go look at it, consider it. I don't know how you, there's nothing to apply this to your life. I don't think. No, no. But it's still fun. It just works well if you ever, if you're ever given that puzzle, that paradox puzzle with the, you know, you come across two doors. It's a, I guess Labyrinth had those two knockers that, that did this, Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Where you basically say, all right, if I asked the other door, if he was the right door, would he tell me he is? That's the whole thing. The other door says, he would, yes. Okay, well, then I know that this is the door because that one would be a lie and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I like this kind of stuff. It's a good time. I do too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And also it makes you just kind of play around with what truth is. Like Talley just said in the chat, truth isn't always reality. it's what you think your reality is but that's my that's my point with like that's a whole other conversation but if pinocchio doesn't know something's a lie but says it right did would he still have a nose grow or does he need to knowingly know he's deceiving for it to grow that's the thing does he if he knowingly tells a lie yeah is the key yeah and i don't know that they ever make that clear in the book as far as i know it's not talked about um no but i think a lie is only a lie if you know you're telling it. Otherwise, it's, it's, I would agree. It's misinformation. It's ignorance.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah. It's fake news. Yeah, ignorance. It's ignorance. If it's willful ignorance, then it's a kind of a lie, isn't it? Like, even if they don't know, but they're willfully ignoring ways to know so that they can stay in their little idea. Kind of like the, like the flat earth kind of thing. Yeah, like if you, if you were told the earth is flat and you go, yeah, I think you're right, but you don't do anything else to look deeper, that's willful ignorance and that's kind of a lie. And that's just, just under 50% of the country. Oh, man, I hope the flat earthers are less than that. I really hope that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's got to be right. I got to believe in my heart of hearts that the flat earth thing is like a percent or less of people. Oh, it's definitely, it's definitely not, I'm thinking more the broader range of willful, willful ignorance and not the not just the flat earth kind of thing exactly um so now you know once you get your brain wrapped around this next week we'll talk about the let's make a deal paradox let's do it let's make a deal the theory or whatever it is what is what is i don't know what that is that a is that an easy thing it is uh so you've got uh the two doors let's make a deal monte hall says all right dad you want door number one or door number two and you say i'd like door number one and he says all right we're going to take door number two off the table
Starting point is 00:21:06 and now your other uh choice we're going to we're going to throw in door number three do you want door number three and there's like a a theory that that because you're given another choice there's a higher percentage that that second choice is going to be better than the 50 percent i guess it's called the monte hall paradox not the or the multi hall problem it's called the monte hall problem okay yeah which i think is having Monty Hall host things, but that's a whole different. That's just my interpretation. Here are the standard assumptions that says the top three standard assumptions.
Starting point is 00:21:40 By the standard assumptions, the possibility or probability of winning the car after switching is two over three, or two, I guess, two over three. It means two out of three chances. Two out of three chances. Okay. The way they listed, it looks like a fraction. Anyway, this solution is due to the behavior of the host. Ambiguities, ambiguities in the parade.
Starting point is 00:22:03 version do not explicitly define the protocol of the host. However, Marilyn Voss Savant solution printed alongside Whitaker's question implies that both Selvin and Savant is specifically defined the role of the host as follows. Number one, the host must always open a door that was not selected by the contestant. Two, the host, being Monty Hall, must always open a door to reveal a goat and never the car. Or three, the host must always offer the chance to switch between the door originally chosen and the closed, sorry, and the closed door that remains. Those are the three assumptions. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:42 If those three, right, basically, if those three principles are true. Yeah, and it's not, you guys can stop telling me it's not a paradox. I get it. It's not a paradox. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, we got it. Money hole problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 But, yeah, if those three principles are true, then yes, then this is like you should always switch. Right. And you should, then he's never going to offer you the third door. there's not something good behind the third door so it says the simple solutions of this if you have behind door one goat behind door two goat and behind door three a car so goat goat goat or sorry goat goat the result if staying at door one wins the goat result of switching to door offered wins the car and then there's two other versions of this that either wins you the car or the the the goat but
Starting point is 00:23:28 the idea is that you will if you know this or understand it implicitly and intuitively you'll You'll never not win the car if your aim is to win the car. Right. Right. Yeah. Anyway, it's interesting. That's crazy. I like shit like this.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Stuff like this. Yeah, stuff like this makes my brain roll around and make noises. I like it. I like it a lot. All right, there's that. Quick shout out to my sister, Wendy. You know her from Thursday. She will not be here tomorrow because it's Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But her birthday is on Thanksgiving. And that means that, well, today, technically today, it's her birthday. but she was born on Thanksgiving Day because the dates move around, you know, depending on the year. And it's never the same Thursday as my point. So she, well, it's the same Thursday. It's just never the same date. Or it's not always the same date.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Right, right, right. So her birthday is today. Is it one out of seven chance of it falling on Thanksgiving. Thank you. That's the easiest way to put it, and I should have put it that way. She was born many years ago. I will not tell you her age, but she is celebrating a birthday today. and I just thought TMS should know
Starting point is 00:24:31 and we should all let her know in her own little special way because she doesn't check internet, she doesn't do social media and she doesn't listen to the show. So she'll never hear any of this, but I know you guys all wanted to at least know about it.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Her birthday is today. Happy birthday to Wendy. We are sending birthday messages through the ether to get to her. Yeah. You know, and I'll let her...
Starting point is 00:24:54 I'll take a screenshot of the chat and let her know you guys said nice things. There you go. Cool. Also, it's funny because I have a memory of this when she, when my mom, my mom was extremely pregnant on that day, went into labor at the beginning of dinner, which was early in the day. It was like noon. We're having like lunchtime era. And she starts going to labor at the table while we're all eating Thanksgiving and got up, waddled out of there. My dad took her to the hospital. And the rest of us stayed there and ate. I finished year.
Starting point is 00:25:27 yeah well she's not gonna i guess no one's here to stop me from having another piece of pie yeah it was really weird me and the two koreans we didn't have three yet and uh sitting there eating had some uncles and aunts and stuff around and my dad's on his way to the hospital and she was born a couple hours later so anyway that's cool there you have it and then her her evil twin would be removed uh seven years later uh her surgery uh taken off of her shoulder her shoulder uh taken off of her shoulder Yeah, I wish, I mean, it was basically, it was, it's the reason she only has one ovary, but it was basically, well, I've told you this before, we called it a mad ball, but it was basically a tumoury looking thing this big. There was an undeveloped fetus, never took hold. It was, it would have been her twin. And it had like teeth and hair. Not enough, not like going, but like, you know, tooth material and hair and like, but I used to call it a mad ball and he used to piss her off in the 80s. Like, hey, did you keep your mad ball? Did it sound like Richard E. Grant is the question. No.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, in the womb, maybe. But outside of the womb, not so much. But it almost killed her this thing. This twin almost came. It reminded me of the Professor X sister thing. Yeah, right, the Cassandra Nova. Cassandra Nova, exactly. And I didn't know enough about that back then to make that reference.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So it was always Madball. But anyway. Madball's far better. Everybody understands Madball. Speaking of, they'll tell this story really quickly. I did some lift driving yesterday and picked up a woman from the hospital. She's like, oh, my gosh, you know, the last couple of years I've had, and she's telling me this story about how she fell on some ice, hit her head. And then while she was recovering from that, she, you know, stepped out of bed and slipped and fell and hurt her back or something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Like basically these two or three stories all in succession of each other where she injured herself. And I said, oh, my God. Well, I think instead of going to the hospital, let's just stop at the UPS store and we'll just wrap you in bubble wrap. And she said, yeah, like John Travolta. And I thought for a second, like, oh, okay. She says, no, there was, I'm old. There was this old movie. And I said, yeah, the boy in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I'm old too. Yeah, it's the whole, the whole Seinfeld gig about Moops was from that. It was a reference to that. Yeah, bubble boy. Yeah, we all, that was for whatever reason. You know the boy in the bubble. That was some kind of weird late 70s. thing where it was almost like
Starting point is 00:27:57 the day after thing where the nuke goes off and Jason Robards in his car and everything. There are certain moments in television that were burned into us. Boy in the bubble is one of those. For sure. There's no removing it. It was a big deal. That and the thornbirds
Starting point is 00:28:13 for some reason. I remember that being a massive and Shogun, obviously having a massive impact on television. Shogun and Thornbirds, both had Richard Chamberlain, right? I think. They did, yeah. Which, you know. My mom, dude. Put all of our moms into a puddle, basically. My mom, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:29 She just, nothing but, nothing but Richard Chamberlain. Until Magnum P.I. And then she was all about that dude. Took a while. That was all Tom Selleck all the time. Took a while. All right. Well, we're at the stage of the show where we got to play a game.
Starting point is 00:28:42 We got to. The internet will not have it if we don't. And we're going to add Brian Dunaway to the call. I'll tell you right now, I'm going to take, today I'm going to shake it up a little. I'm going to take our fifth caller. Ooh, fifth. Yeah, just to shake it up a little bit. There was somebody last week who really wanted to be on that was almost our fifth caller,
Starting point is 00:29:02 and we'll see if we can't get them to nail that again. Before we do that, though, and let's do this. Well, well, well, look what crawled out of the swamp. It's Brian Dunaway. Hi, Brian. Boy, you got that right. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Are you feeling any better?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Are you feeling any better? No. It's even worse because last night, I, I got to the coughing fit stage where I had to sit up all night. I went to the living room, sat in a chair, and just, you know, slept for 30 minutes and woke up going, Oh, man, I'm so sorry. I hate that for you. For real, that sucks ass.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You shouldn't have to feel that way. It sucks the big old butt hole. Big old turkey butt holes. Yeah, turkey butt holes. But maybe you'll be. I always asked for that part, by the way. We sit at the table and say, save me the turkey butt hole. Yeah, save me the butt hole.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah, yeah. I love the knick. I love the butthole. While the rest of us are, you know, grabbing the wishbone. Fighting over a drumstick and wishbone. Yeah. Ryan's over there hogging the butth hole. Puttall.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Give it a bottle. All right. Well, we have a fifth caller, but, uh, fifth person, but they're not answering. So let's see how this goes. Oh. Their name is. Is he? I don't see him yet.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Dilwee, are you there? I hear him talking. I hear I hear I'm talking. Oh, Discord is being weird for me. It's showing all great out. Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Oh, thank goodness, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Well, I was worried we didn't have you. Glad to have you. I know you were fifth last week, so I thought, well, let's see if we can trick the system, and it totally worked. You were fifth again. So nice work on that. Yeah, nice job. Hey, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Real quick, done away. I always get sick around Thanksgiving. And so far this year, I'm not. Like, I get a, I always head cold something. You're welcome. So I don't know how I'm avoiding it, but I'm grateful to be not sick. And it makes me feel worse for you. I have more empathy for you now than ever, our good friend Brian Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I have, I feel bad for my coworkers who were already understaff where I work at. And when I'm supposed to be off today and I, unfortunately, I was like, I can go in, but I'm probably going to get everybody sick for Thanksgiving. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. Yeah, well, how's your, you got a good boss though. He's all right, right? It's okay. He's nice.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, I got good coworkers. Everybody's great. All right. Everybody's great. Everyone loves a Dunaway. That's how I say. Everybody loves a Dunaway. That's right. Except Faye Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Put in your mouth and swish it around. Faye Dunaway was hard to work with on set. But other than her, we love a Dunaway. Mommy dearest. Anyway, we're going to get right to it. We're going to play a game. Dillweed might win some prizes, but first we got to play it. So, Brian, how do we play it?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Sure. Well, it's time to play the Tadpoly feud. I've surveyed the Tadpole on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian have to predict the answers that they gave us. It is their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Dillweed, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with one of these two chuckleheads. And if your team wins, you guys. you get a price package.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh, that includes Domekeeper and McPixel 3. Oh, my gosh. Two wonderful games. Don Keeper's great. Yeah, Don't Keeper kept me up. We talked nights playing that game. Fantastic. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:04 We talked about Homekeeper, I believe, on The Boob Show, right? Yeah, if not, we may have, it may have come up on play retro because it's a very retro-inspired kind of game, but it's this one written in this Godot engine that everybody's all into right now. Yes, I'm learning some Godot. Look at me. You should. It's the hotness right now.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Anyway, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, addicting loop i'll put it that way very good game nice yeah nice well good let's uh you haven't won it yet you got to earn it and uh the only way to play the game the only way to play the game is for me to ask this question right here and tell these two guys to put their hands on their buzzers and uh get ready to answer this question we asked the tadpool 545 of them responded what's the best movie based on a comic book that is not Scott, kickass. Nice. Show me kick ass. Wow. Look, and you did that last week, too. That's exactly what you did last week.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'll repeat the question for Brian. In completion. What's the best movie based on a comic book that is not published by Marvel or D.C.? I figured that's where you were going. Yeah, as soon as you start saying, the first thing that came to mind was Spawn, even though I don't know if that's going to be out of the air. Spawn. Spawn.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Show me Spawn. Oh, I'm sorry. I said it wrong. Spawn. That is higher than kick-ass, even though kick-ass is more points, which means, Brian, you get controlled. Kick-ass. You get Dill-weed as a partner. Nice.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Nice. Dill-weed. What are we going to? Just remember, Brian, six, so you're going to have to drag me across the finish line. So, so, okay, non-marvel. Yeah. What do you like? Non-Marble, non-DC.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Oh, D. DC, because I beg you sure D.C. is in there, okay. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Del Wade? Based on a comic book. I'm not a huge comic book nerd. Oh, no. The only thing I can think of right now is Scott Pilgrim. Oh, that's a great answer. Yeah, I'll be on here. Got to be. Sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Show me. That worry's done away. All right. Show me. Okay. Versus the world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not just a great comic book movie, but really captures the
Starting point is 00:34:16 feel of a comic book in a film better than any other comic book film I think I agree true story yeah that's why I want him to do more but they're not giving him the right gigs I guess I don't know yeah he was almost we almost got an ant man out of Edgar Wright
Starting point is 00:34:32 I know I really wish we would have would have loved to have seen that not that not that the first Antman wasn't great and you still need to see the second one before Thunderbolts asterisk comes out but Thunderbolt Yeah, I'm excited about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's the next one I actually care about. Ansters left on the board, many of them, seven of them to be specific. Yeah. Right. It starts getting kind of tough. I'm trying not to go to film sec when I'm thinking of all the film sack movies we kind of did. I know we talked this past week about one and it's definitely not. Was it based on a comic?
Starting point is 00:35:10 I think the comic came after. Anyway, I'll shut up. Hey, what do you think? I'm just talking. shit, apparently. Yeah. I can't even direct. Is Sin City?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Oh, yeah. Sin City, but that ended up, but did he do it independently or did that? Oh, yeah. Definitely, definitely an independent comic. I think it was Dark Horse that did that. Dark Horse, I think. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. Great answer. Yeah, that's a good one. I like it. Okay. All right. Show me. Good answer.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. Nice. Number seven. You guys, you guys take the lead. But when you, when you said all that, it may. may me remember uh i thought just talking about dark man at first also not marvell or dc
Starting point is 00:35:52 right also not a comic yeah but isn't it no it's not based on i'll save you that i'll save you the i'll save you the trouble though i don't want to help anybody but uh it's just hilarious even it was telling me no brian yeah yeah i'm not sure you want to i'm not saying that somebody wouldn't say it in the tadpool exactly yeah right right right right let's be clear whether or not something is a comic or even marvel or dc does not matter it matters well But 11 answers the Tadpool said more than any other answer. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I'm such a slave to visual patterns. I just love how we've created a little grid here. Like two and seven and bottom ones. I don't know. It's kind of cool. Famously, famously, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Oh, yeah, good one. It was an indie comic black and white and made it to a movie.
Starting point is 00:36:40 What do you think? Or should I shut up and let you do the answering since I'm... What do you think, David? High on NyQuil. Sounds like a good answer to me. Yeah. I feel like Do Weed and Dunaway are on the same. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I feel like, are you guys sharing the same Benadryl? No, we got the same brain right now. It's the same brain. That's all right. It's serving you. You're up by four. All right. Are you going with Teenage Mutinyin Ninja Turtles?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Everyone after. All right. Show me TMNT. Oh, not the number one answer. That's what's killing me. It's like, what is my answer? more obvious than TM&T.
Starting point is 00:37:18 In any cases where there were, you know, multiple movies for the same thing, whether they're on the top 10 or not, I did merge them together. And so some people actually did say the 2023 Teenage Mutage of Turtles, the animated movie was the best, which I never saw. I do want to see it. Yeah, that was really cool. It's really cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It's a kind of a style. It looks great. Yeah. I'm a fan of the one. I don't remember the name of it. It's the one that the bad guy was played by Paddard. Patrick Stewart. It's a few years ago, like maybe 04. I quite liked that, but no one else talks about it but me, so I'm not going to, I'm not going to bet on it. There's, I know, I'm, I think there were a few of them in there that I lumped into this one
Starting point is 00:37:59 too, so. Yeah. Sure. I'm convinced about number one, but I'm not going to say it to you guys get about it. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm trying really hard to remember. I can see the comic cover and I know when these questions went out. Can I ask that? Can I ask when you put this, this particular question? Is this all set or new set? Spring. This is the old set. This is the next question of the old set. So, spring of this year. I was going to say the crow, but the new one didn't pop up until more recently, and that might not in people's minds. I don't know. People love the crow. Yeah. And it's not a Marvel DC movie. Definitely not.
Starting point is 00:38:37 What do you think, Delweed? You want to use other half of the brain? I let you use this part. I have. For some reason, I'm at the TMNT, I don't think this is an answer. I don't think it's a comic book, Power Rangers. Power Rangers, oh, they're definitely comics. Question is, is it on the list. They started as a, is live action.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I think so. I don't think it was originally, yeah, but again, it doesn't matter. It matters more with the, the Tadpole says. Sabon, did he make, does he have his own? Sabon. Subon. The bond, isn't that who it is? I don't think it's a company out of dudes.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Is it a dude? It is a dude. He started the company. It's his company, right? Oh, all right. Sabon's company. All right. Yes, isn't that right?
Starting point is 00:39:20 I don't know. I'm not going to argue with you. I don't, I don't feel S-A-B-A-N, right? Saban, is that how you say it? Yeah, I think so. I have no idea. Whatever. I'm totally getting off track.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You guys are following me down the knife will path. You fools. Okay. What were we going to do, deal weed? I've already forgot. That's the neat teen. No, you said Power Rangers. You were talking.
Starting point is 00:39:44 about the crow are you sticking with the crow oh power rangers or you don't do we i'll let do we if you like i don't know even you know what the crow is so you don't know what the crow is oh dude we got to watch the crow we got to we have watched the travis we got to get the film sack the girl and watch it yeah it's amazing come back yeah Brian I think they're saying crow that's what I think okay give us the crow all right show me the crow well it's painful whether it's 1994 or 2224 people said the crow I still know what number one is, though. That's driving me crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I do. Scott thinks he does. I'm so sure of it. I would bet money. It's not water world, Scott. No. I know it's that time of year, but it's not water world. I would bet money on number one.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm almost sure of it. Oh, you bet money? Let's go. Wow. I'll bet. You know what I'll do? If I'm wrong, send me a DM. I'm not going to tell you if you're right or wrong, but I want to be able to...
Starting point is 00:40:36 You want to verify it before I say it. I want to verify it. And I'm not going to, again, I'm not going to tell you if you're right or wrong. and hopefully you do get a chance to answer at some point. I'm trying to think of classic stuff. The only thing I'm trying to think of classic stuff. One thing I can think of classic is a booby slave. Flash Gordon.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Flash Gordon. Oh, yeah. That's the only, right? Yeah, put that in there. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, give us the booby slaves. All right. Unless we disagree.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I think he's in. I can't disagree. Yeah, he can't disagree. All right. Show me, Flash Gordon. Oh, no. You never trust the guy who's sick. I don't think Flash Gordon even made the list.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Or Flesh Gordon. Any of you ever see Flesh Gordon, by the way? I remember that being a big. I scrubbed it. It was one of the, it's the first sex parody thing I'd ever heard of as a kid. Yeah, yeah. First one I ever heard of. Tide for 48th place with all the other things that only one person said.
Starting point is 00:41:38 That was the indie comic, right, too. It wasn't D.C. or nothing? No, I think it was comic. I think it was comic strips before it was definitely comic strips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it started that way and perhaps got collected later as a collectible paperback or something. But it definitely wasn't that. That blows my second one up that I wanted to do because I was thinking about the old comics. Yeah. And we've watched some film stack too. All right. I'm going to go. You did lose. Here's what I'm going to say because I think this is number one. If I'm wrong, I'm going to send two free stickers to listeners today, chosen at random.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Wow. And you know what? Three, one, I'll send to, I'll send to Dillweed regardless because whether he wins or loses. Oh, nice Dillweed. I'm going to say, hellboy is number one. Oh, of course, hellboy. Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:42:23 All right, show me, hellboy. It is the number one answer. So no stickers for you, chokes. No stickers. I was actually hoping I could send some stickers. Don't worry. I'll lose something in the future, everybody. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Judge Dread, probably on here. Oh, that's coming. Of course, Judge Dred. All right. Show me drudge, drudge, drudge, dread. Drudge, Jed. Drudge, Jed. Number three.
Starting point is 00:42:48 All right. Not a lot of points. 14 to 24 currently is the score total with Ryan and Gilweed leading. Got to be 300. No, he needs both of them. He needs both of them to. Then Dilweed wins. Dilweed wins if I get it or, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Oh, Dilweed you win. Yeah, no matter what, Billweed wins, because you need both of these to win to win or make him win, exactly. Exactly. I love that. All right. Show me, what'd you say? 300, 300. 300. Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:14 A good one. Show me 300. Oh, my gosh. 300, number 13. Almost, almost in the top 11. I'm blown away by that. Yeah, yeah. How do you guys not?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Why is my hand like this? I was holding it like this. Why is my hand like this? Is that such a, like I have pictures of you drink and trying wine with Barry where your hand is. very try wine and you get a limp hand um all right okay you guys no pressure no pressure no pressure literally dillweed two answers left on the board all i could think is the old stuff like creep show but i just don't feel like did these people know it they didn't know flash gordon well
Starting point is 00:43:56 if they didn't know 300 i'm i all bets are off that's crazy it's not it's crazy town i wish water world was one that i could really stick it to scott i like sticking it to scott but pretty sure they did a Waterworld comic later. They did. Some short run. Yeah. But I'll bet you $100 that's not on here. No, no, definitely not out there.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yeah. What do you think? What do you think, Dillweed? Dill weed, got it, got one. I'm thinking is Watchman. I feel like that's... Oh, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, what was that? Well, hold on. No, was he independent when he was doing that? It doesn't matter because it's what the TEDPools is. Yeah. It is a team.
Starting point is 00:44:38 tadpole thing, but you're probably safe. Yeah, because DC bought all the shitty characters left over from another company. Right, it was a heart, not hard, uh, it was a, um, I think began with an H. I think what. Yeah, yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:44:54 right. Well, no, Watchman was Vertigo, I think, which was a DC imprint. But those characters like night owl and stuff came from old. Oh, you're right. You're totally right. So I think this is actually a good bet. because I, even though it may be DC, yeah, this may be D.C. ultimately, but I think the Tadpool may have said it. Yeah, what do you like it? You like it?
Starting point is 00:45:17 I think we'll do watchmen. Let's get some watchmen in there. Let's rush hack it. Yeah. All right. Show me watchman. Y'all right. The tadpool's at it. Yeah. Tadpool ignoring the fact that there's a big old DC on the cover of the limited series. The characters did come from Charleston. So it does. count and vertigo is a DC imprint so sure I miss Virgo black label black label's pretty good it's kind of their replacement but I still I don't know they should have kept Marvel had epic I think was there was there kind of more adult deal yeah no comics code stuff likeers losing the shit right now listening to this no he probably is losing
Starting point is 00:46:01 we'll see when I read some of the other answers lower the list he will yeah nice nice all right you guys got one slot to fill what do you got there's there's so many stupid movies like yeah one slot to feel like the phantom we watched that on film sack whatever the superhero that's the hard that's the hard part
Starting point is 00:46:19 you gotta do movies that's old right yeah I mean the movies do her but the source material is old because hell like freaking well phantom was a radio show and then the comic book in the movie or was it even
Starting point is 00:46:31 was it even a comic book between those two things probably I'm sure there was a comic oh that's a great question like Blue Beatles like that's a DC thing but it's the same thing it started as a radio play and then I think up to make comics I'm actually I'm not sure about that
Starting point is 00:46:43 anyway I I think the deal I think I gotta go dry on ideas the only other comic I read was the Simpsons Comics oh that's good one but that was I don't think that was that here didn't yeah but with Marvel DC
Starting point is 00:46:59 yeah I think Marvel did do it but I don't think anyone knows that I'd also and they did have a movie they did have a movie but yeah they had a movie it was that tied to either of the big publishers simpson's comics i thought it was i remember getting the issues of him for free comic book day and that's it you know what it is now that's why that's part of why i think it because it's all owned by it's all owned by disney okay bongo comics was the original uh okay all the indie comics scene was so great the 90s guy sure yeah if you didn't grow up
Starting point is 00:47:30 during the 90s and getting that whole indie comic stuff yeah right well what do you think road to perdition no don't do that one oh road to perdition no it's a comic nobody's going to do it though nobody knows it's a comic is the problem is that what you're saying i think we should i think we should let's get some love to the simpsons tom's going to be knocking at the door in a second all right show me the simpsons oh all right i'm going to go with the one you guys avoided earlier Oh, no, maybe you didn't. I think I was the one saying it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I want V for Vendetta, please. Yeah, that's a good one. Show me V for Vendetta. Number 11. Good job, Scott. Shit. That throws me for a bit of a loop. I thought that was it.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Great. Oh, man. Okay. Let's circle back around. Wait, did we say it? Hold on. It's on here. Cincinnati. There's like something. I'm like, do we say it?
Starting point is 00:48:36 The hard part is me remembering what actually made it to film, because I can think a lot to indie comics I love. Sure. I'm a huge fan. I would have like Invincible, but that's a TV show. But also what would the Tadpool say? I'm going to say invincible. Oh, no, no, no. I'm going to say, I'm going to say the, because we have, we have. You think you're thinking too hard. Walking Dead. I think someone's dumb enough to say it.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It's not a movie, but I, it's basically. You think that Chad Poole would ignore the fact that it's not a movie to say Walking Dead. Yeah. All right. Cool. All right. Show me the Walking Dead. Cool.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Damn it to hell. Cool. People, even though people did still say Walking Dead, I think maybe two or three, it's low. It's low on the list. Poop. Did I already say, D. Dark Man, did? You said it, but you didn't choose it.
Starting point is 00:49:28 The NyQuil is really kicking in, isn't it? You didn't. You said it. You referred to. to it, but you didn't choose it. Okay. What do you think, Diel? I have no idea what that is.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I think you should go for it because you've won either way. Dark man before Tom gets us. Yeah. All right. Show me, Dark man. No. Scott, one last chance to get some more points on the board. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It's clear. Scott. Come on. Josie and the pussycats. Ooh. Flintstones. Why not Flintstones? Show me Josie and the Pussycats.
Starting point is 00:50:05 No, but great, great answer. Let's reveal number eight. I don't know if it's a movie. But I don't know if it's a movie, but it is a movie. It is a mystery man from, that's a dark horse thing. Damn it. It was a flaming curate comics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That's right. A lot of mystery men in it. Yeah. Good job. Rounding out your top list here, Men in Black, 300 was number 13. The Rocketeer, great choice there. People said the Incredibles.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Nope. Road Perdition. Nope. Ghost World. Nimona. The mask. Unbreakable. Nope.
Starting point is 00:50:42 History of violence. Edge of Tomorrow. Was edge of tomorrow? I don't think so. Four people said it. I don't think so. It's a book. There's a book, but not a comic book.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yeah. Tank Girl, the old guard. I don't know. It was based on the Japanese thing, right? Was it? It was, yeah, it was a manga. It was a manga? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 We talked about that. Yeah. I didn't know. that. We did talk about it on film suck. You're right. Yeah. We did. Yeah. The Old Guard, American Splendor, Big Hero Six, Ghost in the Shell, heavy metal, snow piercer,
Starting point is 00:51:13 Super, 30 days of night, Constantine, Darkman did make number 34 on the list, Brian. Dick Tracy, Garfield, Hank... Invincible, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Push, Richie Rich, Robocop, Sonic, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Robocop. The last of us. Please, please, people. Tintin wanted in the Adam's family. All right. Those are all Adam's family counts. Yeah, Adam's sound like that started a comic strip. Yeah, that totally works. A comic strip in the New Yorker, though, no comic book.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah, and Constantine is D.C. You're right, chat. That is true. Yeah. We're getting a sequel with Keanu Reeves in it. I can't wait. Are we really? Wow. Okay, I have not heard that.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Apparently working on it now. So, whatever that means. I love the first one. I unapologetically love the first constant. No, I think we all enjoyed it on film sex, so. Tilda Swinton. You got your Peter Stamara is like the weirdest devil ever. So good.
Starting point is 00:52:07 That's right. Well, there you have it. You know what this means? This means celebrations all around because we cleared the board, first of all. Second of all, we gave some prizes away to Dillweed. You didn't really clear the board, though. Well, not really. Everything but won.
Starting point is 00:52:20 We cleared it so that one was so embarrassed to be there that Brian had to clear it for us. And that was great. Congratulations. So that means you win, Dillweed. You're going to walk away with these fantastic games. Brian, remind them what they are one more time. Sure, those games are Domekeeper and McPixel 3. They are already waiting for you in Discord.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Load those into your Steam and enjoy them, courtesy of Wesley. You're also the second... Let me show your brain, Dillweed. You're the second Dillweed, I know. I had a friend in high school who we called Dillweed. That was his nickname. His real name was Sean, but we called him Dillweed. Yeah, we use that term quite often.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'm sure he's not as dumb as the Dillweed I knew. I think you're a smart guy. And he seemed like a nice guy, too. I thought it's not as much as it used to be. Let's bring it back, I say. Anyway, congratulations and well done. Brian Dunaway, I hope you feel better soon, man. I feel bad for you, but convales, man, lay it down, eat turkey, chill out.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm going to play some medieval. I played a little bit last night. It was, yeah, looking forward to Friday show. Hopefully I feel a little better, by the way. Yeah, we'll see how things go. We may move things around depending on how you feel, but we'll see how it goes. Have a fantastic one. We'll see you then.
Starting point is 00:53:31 All right, we're going to take a break. When we get back from this break, Tom Merritt will be joining us. We'll be doing a little tech talk and then getting ourselves for recommendals after that. First, a song break from Brian Ibitt. Absolutely. Mark Schuller, a listener in the Tadpool here, found a song that he really, really liked.
Starting point is 00:53:47 He reached out to the indie band and really did some heavy lifting, a lot of back and forth with a label to get permission for us to play it. Big thanks to Mark Schuller for doing this. He did finally get approval from the band, and it's great. This is a band called Bad Bad Hats, and the song is called My Heart Your Heart. the hand that feeds me when i die i want you to have my seat please your love so like a pet phone everywhere i go i think i hear you ringing god it's always something with you my heart your heart where does it end baby where does it start my heart your heart where does it start
Starting point is 00:55:01 I'm choosy, yeah, you could choose me, I'm alive and sleeping at the movies your throwback, like the am, tracking anywhere I'm mad, I know the trains are running, the industry is humming, God, it's always something with you. My heart, your heart, where does it end, baby, where does it end? start my heart your heart where does it end baby where does it start My heart, your heart, where does it end, baby, where does it start? In my heart, and your heart, where does it end, baby, where does it start? In my heart, in your heart, where's it in my heart, where's it in?
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Starting point is 00:57:21 Check it out at a sleep. store or sleep number.com today. The only way he knew how to show his devotion, it was the best he could do. Yes, truly. You fool, now we may never know if ants can be trained to sort tiny screws in space. And we're back. Hey, Brian, who was that one more time? Yeah, that is a band.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That great song is a band called Bad Bad Hats and My Heart, Your Heart. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I like that. All right. We're going to get Tom in here. I have some bad news for Tom. I'll share it when he comes on.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Oh, no. Yeah. He's not going to be happy about this. I mean, maybe he won't care. I'm sad. Maybe it'll be no. Maybe it'll be zero big deal to him. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Okay. It probably isn't. It's just a thing I noticed. And, you know, he's going to have to take it one way or the other. All of his segments on TMS have been blank. None of the audio is saved or recorded. That's right. YouTube thinks he is a violation of copyright.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And as a result, not on there. All right, no answer yet, but let's try him one more time here. I think he's about. I know we have Daily Tech News show today, so I would assume he's around. We'll give that another shot. I'll basically tell you what this is, and then we'll see if it matters to him. the, for the longest time, for years, a decade. Or the longest time.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Or as long as we've used Discord, when I go to add somebody to the call, he's the default first person because he is ace detect, right? Oh, sure. Alphabetically comes first. Exactly. But now, there is somebody called Ace High. And it's, and even though it's not a D, the H comes later, for some reason it's putting him ahead of Tom.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I know. I know. so I feel like these are dark times when one of you comes at me with a username with a number in front of it then all bets are off and none of these people get preferential treatment no answer from Tom I wonder if he did he
Starting point is 00:59:37 is he really doing the thing for for the Wednesday before Thanksgiving as far as I know but now that he asked the question it makes me wonder if he's perhaps not he didn't say anything so i don't know if that usually usually he'll let me know which is a very tom thing to do he's very organized yes yes of course but i see nothing i hear nothing well i guess and nothing on my text either zoe says he should be around zoe does a bunch of stuff for d t and us
Starting point is 01:00:08 yeah yeah so as far as you know zoe if anyone would know she would know yeah he's on today and doing all this things that he does as far as you are aware all right i'm going to try it one more time we're going to give Tom one more chot here. One more chot. One more chot. And if it doesn't go through, I have a tech review of my own before we call Nicole. Oh, cool. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Let's see if we can get this in here. Do I have it down here? That would help. Let's see it. Well, great. Okay. Oh, no. I'll do this.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I have another one. I have a good one. All right. No answer from Tom. I'm going to assume he's out today. which is not a problem it's okay he's probably got stuff you never know yeah something could have easily come up and uh and we could always do recommendals and bring tom back in the second part yeah if he shows up he comes knocking we'll come or rocking okay that's how that'll go all right i was going to make a
Starting point is 01:01:02 recommendation for people that i wasn't actually getting this for i didn't get this for this reason but i got a thing okay that is now a thing i recommend for a reason that i didn't get it for if that makes any sense. 100% makes sense. Okay. Like completely and totally 100%. I was looking for a replacement keyboard for my Mac Studio. I've been using an older keyboard for a long time,
Starting point is 01:01:26 and I dumped some years ago, dumped Dr. Pepper on part of it. And I thought I had it pretty cleaned out. And for the most part, it worked fine. But eventually, I think Q through R or T just stopped being responsive, just gooey and sticky and all that. So I finally said, you know what, I need a new keyboard. So I did some searching for some third-party stuff
Starting point is 01:01:46 That wasn't really feeling the mood to spend You know Go all out for the wireless Apple one that's very expensive So I found this brand You've probably heard of them before It's called Mac Macaulay or Macaulay Oh Mac Alley
Starting point is 01:02:01 Is it Mac Alli? Mac Alli Yeah Okay, I never quite sure how to say it They're an ally to your Mac is the way I always think of them Sure I like a wired keyboard because I just don't like charging things if I don't have to. So I got a wired keyboard and you might look at the bottom of
Starting point is 01:02:15 this and say, oh, this is a normal looking ass keyboard, Scott, cool, whatever. You flip it around. And this is the part I didn't expect. I didn't order it because of this. But look at the size of these keys. Look at the size of the letters on these keys. Oh, wow. That is made for people, old people like us. Yeah. You would think. I don't look when I type. I can type without looking. So this isn't useful to me. However, if you are somebody who struggles with not being able to see the keys very well on your keyboard. Do I have another here to compare them to? Because sometimes you want to see the difference.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Oh, yeah, hold on. I got the old one. You can see how fat these are. Sure. All right, so your typical, typical older keyboard. He got little thin. Let me pull up my main video here.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Little teeny tiny. Little gray on white. Yeah, sort of visible, but, you know, it's not all that important. This thing's like, what if the letters were jumbo huge and bold that's great yeah so i didn't know that's what it was going to be when i got it but i actually really like this keyboard it has an amazing feel to it uh all backlit and uh so far it's been amazing and it also kind of looks nice and silver black keys you know
Starting point is 01:03:30 it looks good with the ensemble so and i want to say this thing was like $29 that's fantastic that There's a great deal for something like that, for sure. So, highly recommend it. It is the Macali or Mac Alley. Where's the model? Oh, it's a big long number, and that's lame. Just look for... How are the switches?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Are the cherry switches or brown switches? Well, the switches are... Is it clacky? Is there a lot of clackiness to it? No, in fact, it's very soft. And that's another consideration. The reason I got it is it was reviewed well for being quiet, because when I do shows, I don't want...
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, I don't want a clacky keyboard. Now, for gaming, I love a good mechanical keyboard, but for this, I'm just, it's not in the cards. The other thing is, the only, oh, I have one complaint. You can't just love everything, right? One complaint. The little smiley on here key, it's just a little smiley face. They have a key for emojis. Now, it works.
Starting point is 01:04:26 If you're typing something mid-line and you hit that key, it will pop up with all your emojis to choose. Sure. But because it cuts into the option key, a little bit, shortens the option key basically by about half. I am often accidentally hitting the emoji key. I don't need it, so I wish it wasn't there, but that's my only, that's my only complaint, tiny, tiny thing.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, who needs, I guess kids, you need these emojis on your keyboard for Pete's sake. Yeah, right? The kids, it's for the kids. That's what we do. I've been using, I lucked out, Tina's mom got a brand new. one of those new purple iMacs and she has a keyboard a wired keyboard that she likes a lot so she
Starting point is 01:05:16 gave me her her regular like the keyboard that comes with the iMac what's nice about it is it's got let's see if i can is it's a fingerprint one it is yeah so it's got a fingerprint thing in the corner which is just really nice to not have to type passwords or you know you can do biometric on just about everything. Yeah, I do like that. Go to PayPal, biometric on the keyboard. Go to blogging Discord, biometric on the keyboard. Did you get one of those M1s, or sorry, M4s, the new?
Starting point is 01:05:47 No, no, not that new. Like a year ago, a year and a half ago. So it was like an M2 or M3. I think they only did M1s with the IMAX, right? Oh, really? Then it's M1. It's whatever, it's what it came out last year. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:06:03 And it's not the big size, unfortunately. Yeah, the 2020 or 2022, but that would have been... Let's see. Yeah, I can't remember if they ever iterated on the... I can't remember. And also, did the M3s even happen? I don't think they did. They skip right over that shit?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. That's really weird. Probably. Probably. Yeah, I need more biometrics in my life. I need some skinny, figuring stuff. I love it. um she and and the last thing she needs is a whole lot of m4 speed and one perfectly
Starting point is 01:06:39 oh totally fine yeah they're still they're still insane fast there's no reason you need more than that yeah exactly um and she's not going to have the ram worries the rest of us get so no no uh all right her last one was an old uh intel you know 27 inch iMac that she gave to one of her grandkids so it's the only real beef i have with those things is that they don't make a 27 anymore. They only do it. I know. It's so dumb. Who wants a 20 inch freaking screen? Give me a break. Exactly. So done. All right. Well, we're going to get Nicole in here and have a little bit of fun in the recommendal space. So here's that. Well, what do you recommend? Yes, time for recommendals. Things we've seen on streaming services that we think you at home might enjoy as well. On the line with us right now is
Starting point is 01:07:29 Nicole. Hi, Nicole. How are you? Hi. Can you hear me okay? We sure can. Yeah. Yeah. We can. I'm in my car. It's a Thanksgiving miracle. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Are you hosting this year? You doing everything? My house is the place of the destination, but I created a sign-up genius and sent it to my entire family and said, you guys figure it out. I'll make the turkey. Wow. You really laid it down, dude. That's great. Nicely done.
Starting point is 01:08:00 But you won't know the time now. You'll have to make the turkey, but you won't know what time everybody's going to show up. No, no, no. I set the time. Okay, you did. And so everybody's good. So it's going to be a basically a potluck. So everybody is bringing stuff in craft pots.
Starting point is 01:08:15 We're going to set it up buffet style. And I'm going easy mode. I've been doing a lot of doctors appointments lately and just not. I'm still dealing with the crap that I've been dealing with for last two years. I'm getting closer. Yeah. I'm getting closer. Doing better. Yeah, well, that's, that's good. Make everybody else do the heavy lifting. I think that's fine. Yeah, so that's what I'm doing. That's a really smart way to do it for sure. I like that.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Have you ever used sign up geniuses? Mm-mm. No. What is it? It's a great website. It's a great website. I use this a lot in the PTA when you're trying to get parents to like, if I find that if you just ask somebody, do this, bring this. A lot of times they'll just say yes. Of course, there's always the moms or the dads that. sign up for the paper products first. Yeah. But you can set it up for anything. You can set it up for any kind of event. And it's great. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Look at this. This seems super simple and what an interesting idea. And so they all have to have money. Do they all have to be on here and like have accounts and everything? Or is it kind of, you know? No, you can just sign up and put your email and they'll email you and then you can add it to your calendar. It's just super.
Starting point is 01:09:32 there's a whole bunch of different sign-up ones there's one i think just called sign-up but i use sign-up genius um that's the one i i know and like i'm gonna try it i'm gonna try this cool it's fun yeah yeah they're coming handy for so many things it's great yeah okay never heard of it before it's a way to wrangle the cats in yeah no kidding it's a good way you got to do it cats suck these cats need to be wrangled for sure just kidding they don't suck they're great everybody uh let's get into today's recommendals. Nicole is joining us. Randy had travel today. He's on his way to Texas, so
Starting point is 01:10:06 no Randy. It turns out, but he'll be back next week, hopefully with more. Let's start with Brian. He's got two today. I got two. I'm making up for the lack of Randy with a couple of recommendals because Tina and I, we like to just plop our butts down on the couch and
Starting point is 01:10:22 watch crap. So this one's been on our list for a long time. It was actually a documentary Oscar winner several years ago and I did a quick search on QTMS and I didn't find it but you guys
Starting point is 01:10:36 will know immediately if one of you has already recommended it. I guess we can play the clip. You're going to hear from a guy making first contact with somebody for an interview and that guy just happens to be in Russia. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And met with this guy who's going to at least like prescribe me the protocol. But what is your ultimate purpose? You would like to beat doping test. You would like to start your hormonal program. Yes. Then give sample and prove negative.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yes. Ha ha ha. You need a very serious advice because there are a lot of tracks. Normally grows... Okay. My dog is playing. I just came back and he is very much excited. And he has a special toy.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah, I hear it. Hey, you want to see my dog? Yes. Is it male female? Male. Castrated? No. Constrated?
Starting point is 01:11:44 We got the balls. Yeah. I don't know what this is. Castrated? Is this this rat? It sounds like it, right? Uh, this is a movie called Icarus and has nothing to do with your dog being castrated, but it does have to do with, um, the first thing you heard him talk about, which is trying
Starting point is 01:12:06 to beat, uh, doping tests and seeing if he could get past them. So this is a document. He came out in 2017 by a guy named Brian Fogel. Brian Fogel, uh, Denver native here. Um, I don't know if he's still in Denver, but big cyclist, big, um, uh, did I not recommend, I thought I recommended this. This is the Icarus thing, isn't it? That's what I said at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I said, I wasn't sure if he's not. anybody recommend it. I did, but it's been forever, dude. So this is a good one to bring up again. Probably was closer to 2017 when you, uh, when you recommend it's so good that I'm glad you're doing it again. This is great. Yeah, this is great. Yeah. So that's probably why it was on our list. We're like, oh, Icarus, why is this on our list? And we're like, oh, this is great. Yeah, let's watch it. So it starts out with Brian Fogle, um, just wanting to figure out kind of to do a documentary about the illegal doping in sports, starting with kind of Lance. Armstrong and kind of moving around that.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And in the process, he meets up with this guy that you heard right there, Grigory Rachinkov. And the two of them develop a friendship, but also in the process of talking to Gregory, who was the official, he was the director of the anti-doping laboratory in Moscow, where they did all the tests on contestants going to, or athletes going to the Olympics. And it turns out that Radchenkov was aware of maybe some of the things that were going on with the doping of Russian athletes for a long time and basically was silenced by the Russian government not able to talk about it. So it turns into this whole thing that kind of uncovers this doping scandal that's been going on for years. Russia to the point where Rachankov even has to go into hiding and in kind of like a little witness protection kind of thing to avoid Putin and folks coming down on them. Like it, it starts out, this document starts out as one little innocuous thing and then turns into so much more.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Absolutely fascinating. And Gregory turns into one of our. favorite people we've seen in a documentary ever. Right up there with Agent Doug who got hungry three times during the McDonald's. That guy's awesome. I love him. He's a hero. But yeah, this thing is so fascinating.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And every, it seems like every two or three minutes, you are getting this new revelation about the Russian doping. And this is what led to Russia getting booted out of the Olympics in 2018, I think, and they still haven't been allowed back. And that's why you've got, you know, during the opening ceremonies, you've always got the athletes from, how do they call it, unaffiliated Russian athletes or something. they come out with their own their own flag and basically they are yeah the ROC exactly and they can compete
Starting point is 01:15:30 but they can't do it through through like under the Russian banner for example but this this is amazing and even to this day I think Rachankov is still in hiding because of the things that got
Starting point is 01:15:48 uncovered in this documentary at least at least at the Academy Awards, when Brian Fogel went to accept the award, he's like, yeah, this is dedicated to Gregor Wachankov, who still is in great danger, and we hope this opens the eyes of people who are unaware of this and can do something about it. Yeah, protect that guy at all costs.
Starting point is 01:16:09 He's a brave dude. Also, it is what you mentioned it, but the craziest thing about that, Doc, is how it starts out as a boring biking thing. Like, it's not meant to be anything else. He wasn't making something that would end up winning Academy Awards or anything. No. Just going to make a boring-ass thing.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And then it breaks and changes and goes places. I mean, it is one of the wildest rides I ever took. It freaking snowballs down a hill into something so big and revealing that, like you say, I mean, this caused the International Olympic Committee to investigate and discover that the, what Russia was doing. doing so cheating baby cheating is what they were doing exactly all right and it's still on Netflix still on Netflix I believe it is a Netflix documentary so it will it should stay on Netflix as interestingly enough all four of our things today are on Netflix yeah so yeah
Starting point is 01:17:07 today is a Netflix day celebrate by spending $20 a month plus on your fantastic service so that is called Icarus great documentary on Netflix nice number two for me is something that a couple of folks in Georgia just won't shut up about. They keep telling me about it and keep telling me to recommend it and da-da-da-da and finally watched it. I'm kidding. Chuck and Amy
Starting point is 01:17:31 have been telling me about this for a while and said, you know, watch it before Christmas early enough that you can use it as a recommendal before Christmas so other people can see it before Christmas. And my gosh, this is the sweetest, quirkiest little series
Starting point is 01:17:47 you're going to really love. You're going to hear a couple voices. You're hearing the voice of a, well, through the pages of a book discovered in a bookstore. So that's the woman's voice you'll hear in this. This guy finds this book in a bookstore and the narration of what's on the page is the woman's voice you'll hear.
Starting point is 01:18:08 All right, here we go. Do you dare? I've left some clues for you. If you want them, turn the page. If you don't, put the book back on the shelf. So you've chosen to play. A revealing choice. Shall we begin?
Starting point is 01:18:34 A coded message. You can decipher it with the right books, but only if you can find them. Your first clue requires some heavy reading. Look for French Pianism. That was French Pianism. Oh, and if you need to use your phone, don't bother playing. French Pianism. I'm not telling you anything.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Well, but this is the information desk. Are you not obligated to, like, give me some information? I mean, could you at least tell me the section? I'm not allowed. I promised her I wouldn't discuss anything related to that. You said her. No one did. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 01:19:17 You said her. She's a her, and she is testing my knowledge of the strand. This is so familiar. Like someone else watched it and I caught part of it or something. I wouldn't be surprised if Kim watched this because this feels like it's right up her alley. But it is so much more than something that, you know, you'd say, okay, it's a Kim thing. It's a Hallmark kind of deal. No, this is so much bigger and better than that.
Starting point is 01:19:41 This is a romantic comedy series called Dash and Lily. and this is based on a book called Dash and Lily's Book of Dares. And the premise, like you, like I kind of alluded to, is that Dash finds this book in his favorite bookstore, kind of tucked between two copies of one of his favorite books. And he pulls it out. It's got a thing on the cover that says, do you dare? He opens it up and it starts leading him down the path of solving these riddles to find out who the person is that is leaving them these. messages. Now I know who this is because the kid in it, the dude is one of the, yeah, one of the kids from Euphoria. He's like a nerd in that show. And I remember Kim watching this and walking past and
Starting point is 01:20:27 going, hey, it's the kid from Euphoria. And then I walked past. But I'm sure I saw this scene. I think it was right when she was like right when this book shit started in the show. Yeah, which is the first couple minutes of the first episode. He's, by the way, he's the love child of Andrew McCarthy and Jeremy Allen White. This kid. Nice. Really? Yeah. Really? Wait, I thought you were kidding.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Did we say Andrew McCarthy from San Amos Fire? Yeah. I'm not saying literally the love child. Yeah, yeah. So when you said, yeah, I thought, wait a minute, I need to dig deeper in what Brian is saying. I think Nicole might have taken that seriously. Like this kid, if you put Andrew McCarthy, you put Andrew McCarthy and Jeremy Allen White in a blender. He does hurt Andrew McCarthy.
Starting point is 01:21:15 he's great though this guy's great you would love this too Nicole you and mark would love this it looks fun it honestly I thought it was going to be you know how Netflix has those interactive stories
Starting point is 01:21:26 yeah yeah yeah Mattel loves those and you have to like answer a question in a time frame and that it's like choose your own adventure kind of story and I thought that's what this was
Starting point is 01:21:39 I kind of want that now don't don't let him do the the black mirror one that's not for that's not for kids but is there one for black mirror there is one
Starting point is 01:21:48 for black mirror is an interactive called bandersnatch huff bandersnatch yeah I was going to say Hufflelump or
Starting point is 01:21:55 Jabberwaki or it's a terrible name well I mean it's not terrible once you watch it you get it but yeah bandersnatch was
Starting point is 01:22:01 I don't know if they're ever going to do that again but it's interesting they've pulled a few of those off actually that they had like in the last
Starting point is 01:22:07 couple weeks they've removed a lot of their interactive content like that anyway this is this is a really really
Starting point is 01:22:14 sweet eight episode series that hooked Tina, Tina and I in so much. We binged the whole thing Monday night this week. We started watching the first one right after dinner. We're like, oh yeah, let's keep going. And there's, you know, there are eight episodes, about 20 minutes each. So it's a really easy
Starting point is 01:22:30 three and a half hour binge. Let's see. I'm trying to think if there's other people in here, you might know. It's produced by Nick Jonas of said Jonas Brothers. also produced by Sean Levy, directed.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I think David Levittan is involved. Like he's the boy meets boy. And I want to say he also was involved with modern family, if it's the same guy I'm thinking of. How about Brad Silberling? That name is familiar too. Brad Silberling, producer, director producer, City of Angels, Moonlight, Mile.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Casper? Let me snick it. Casper That must be why it's familiar as a weird weird director to
Starting point is 01:23:19 pull for this it's very different than any of those things but yeah yeah what's really sweet about this
Starting point is 01:23:25 is you've got this couple and it's revealed very early on that Dash hates Christmas this is a Christmas this is something
Starting point is 01:23:32 you want to watch around Christmas time because Christmas plays a part in it he kind of hates Christmas and the
Starting point is 01:23:37 commercialism and the fake joy and that sort of thing but Lily is this ultra-romantic, loves Christmas,
Starting point is 01:23:45 loves everything about it, all of her clothes. She can't wait to put on all of her Christmas clothes for when that season starts up. And so you start to wonder, all right, well, if these two ever meet,
Starting point is 01:23:57 is it going to be a problem? Is it going to be one of the, you know, this big difference between them? It is, it is adorable and sweet and so much better than a Hallmark movie.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Yeah. Because there are a lot of, they don't follow the tropes like you you start getting things in these episodes that are like oh yeah they'd never do that in a in a hallmark movie or this other thing or this you know this this path this story arc but um it is really sweet it's very very good and it is also on Netflix and the episodes are short right like 30 minute episodes or something you should yes dash and lily and big thanks to amy and chuck for being so persistent on making sure that
Starting point is 01:24:45 that I watch this. The music, by the way, music freaking hooked me immediately because it's Dan the Automator. Oh, it's really good, yeah. Who is one of my favorites anyway. And then this, you hear a little bit of this song in that clip we played, but there's a song in there that was made for the show,
Starting point is 01:25:03 not available to download, but I still had to rip a copy of it this morning because it's so good. So I found an instrumental, no-talking version of it online. I'm like ripping it. I want it for my library. It's like Fred Savage directed like five of these. He did. Yeah. Weird. That's crazy. All right. That's awesome. I need to go probably, she'd be watch it in a heartbeat. So I probably just need to watch it with her and. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. All right. Nice. A couple of great ones. A couple of great ones.
Starting point is 01:25:31 This is Dory Francis, who plays Lily is absolutely adorable. She was on Grey's Anatomy more recently. Last few years is like a, I think, an intern or something. Yeah. But she's a fantastic. as well. Yeah, I like her. Just my daughter's age. That's weird. All right. Excellent.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Nicole, let's swing it over to you. He sent me a clip. What do you got here? I did. Before I get into that, I want to rewind to a recommendal that Brian did, I don't know, forever ago. And Mark and I watched it. And I just wanted to thank him for encouraging me to watch it. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:26:08 It is an AMC show. And it's called Kevin Can F himself. Oh, yeah. The most different, amazing, and I so badly just want to call you, Brian, and we can talk about it. Yes, I know. It is so, like, the gimmick, it was so good. It was so overshadowed by the gimmick of it taking place in a sitcom world and then outside of that sitcom world. And people tend to focus on, oh, okay, it was just so based on this gimmick of the sitcom.
Starting point is 01:26:38 So I probably connected to it because I, I, you know, for the past couple years, have been going through my own mental health crisis. And that's what I saw that as. It was her coping. That was her coping mechanism to get through the trauma of Kevin. Like it's like a Wanda Vision where she creates this fake world to live in. So if you're not familiar, Kevin Keneff himself, AMC show, only lasted for two seasons. It could, they could bring it back for a third season.
Starting point is 01:27:15 They could figure out a way. Easily could. It does end in a somewhat satisfying way, at least. Like you, you know. It does. Well, yes, but, God, this is why I want to talk to you about it. Because there's theories around how it ended. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 And the people involved. Oh, interesting. Okay. Oh, yeah. It's so interesting. I'll talk to you off. Yeah, yeah. Dude, I could watch Annie Murphy bake bread.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I love her. Oh, she's, she's wonderful. Her Boston accent is wonderful. I love that they featured Duncan throughout. It's very authentic. And her, her friend Patricia, Patty, is great, yeah, great character. And it made me look at shows like King of Queens, everybody loves Raymond, so differently. No, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:10 It's just, if you haven't watched it, it's a great. great it's a great watch so i love it it's it's tough if you have somebody in your life who is like kevin because kevin is infuriatingly that um that what about bob kind of thing where everybody seems to love him but you see his his horrible his horribleness that everybody just thinks is charming and you just can't get away from that yeah well if you put a laugh track on it then it's it's like oh wait why are we laughing this is in the real world this is not good this guy would be horrible in the real world
Starting point is 01:28:45 and it turns out he is yeah absolutely yeah so have you seen it Scott no I just not because I don't want to I just haven't got around to it so I will it's so good it's great I just wanted to thank Brian because we binge that and and then that rolled me
Starting point is 01:29:01 into my recommendal oh cool okay and I had a a EEG yesterday morning and I could not I had a I had a sleep deprive I have EEG. So I binged this show. And it's a wonderful show. Just came out on Netflix. So how that works? They make you not on purpose, not sleep and then and then do the EEG. Yeah, they do. Certain ones. So my, my problems are in my sleep. Yeah. So they wanted to,
Starting point is 01:29:31 they wanted to see those problems. I have a lot of uncontrollable movements in my body when I sleep. And I'm not, I don't think I'm, I'm not sleeping. very well. So that's what they wanted to see. Okay. Yeah. We got to watch this show. Positive lining. Excellent. Well, let's play your clip here and we'll talk about it on the other side. Here you go. What the hell is going on? You've been a real pill recently, even for you. He stole my watch. Well, he says he didn't. Do you have any proof?
Starting point is 01:30:04 Listen, I have always liked you. Despite, you know, everything about you. There is a nice person in there somewhere underneath the toxic masculinity and the even more toxic cologne. But if you do anything like this again, you're gone. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 01:30:28 there's something off about that guy. Also, that cologne is classy. Virginia loves it. Also, what the hell is toxic masculinity? Oh, never mind. I don't need some broad explaining things. things to me. That's great.
Starting point is 01:30:45 All right. Tell us about this. This is a show on Netflix called A Man on the Inside. And you didn't even hear Ted Dancin. He is who they're talking about. Ted Danson is the main character in the show.
Starting point is 01:31:01 He recently lost his wife. And he's trying to find purpose. And so a lady did detective is looking, she's trying to investigate a really expensive stolen necklace inside of a retirement home. And she's not able to get inside the home. So she puts a help wanted ad out for a man in between 65 and 75 who has a cell phone. And so that interview process is hilarious. And so Ted Danson's character, he was a professor of engineering,
Starting point is 01:31:40 So he can at least send a picture through a phone. So that's why he's hired. That's great. So you heard in that clip, oh, I don't know the actress's name, but she was on. I think it's Lila, Lila Rich Creek Estrada is her name. Lila. Brooklyn 999. Oh, Stephanie Beatriz.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Yeah, she was like the tough. She was the tough one. Yes, Rosa. She was Rosa. Yeah. So she is not that character at all in this. She's the head of the retirement center, and she's very nice, and it's weird seeing her in a different role,
Starting point is 01:32:23 but it's kind of fun. I like her a lot. I see Mary Elizabeth Ellis, The Waitress from Always Sunny is in this. Oh, she's great. As her daughter. Oh, yes, she plays the daughter. She plays the daughter of Ted Danson.
Starting point is 01:32:36 And so she's trying to get her dad to get her dad to get out of the house and do something. So she encourages it. And then when she finds out, he's been hired to be basically a spy. She's like, Lambert, Lambert from Alien. Yeah, Lambert from Alien. I love her. Veronica Carwright. She's so great. I love her. Her stuff recently is amazing. She's very good. So maybe me recommending it, because it literally just came out like a few days ago. It's really fun. It's, you know, 20, 20 minute episodes. Maybe it won't get canceled. Maybe it'll get a second season. I don't know. I have a terrible track record. Right, right. Oh, yeah, you're. I think it's number one on Netflix right now. I think it's doing really well.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Who is it good? Yeah. It's so great. And I think what I love most about it is, you know, the older actors, they're really, like, there's one actress, Virginia. I recognize her. Lambert. That's Lambert. Was she the replacement Chrissy on Three's Company? No, that was Debra Ann, no, something Jennifer Ann, oh, man. Are you talking about, you're not talking about Veronica Cartwright based Beverly? Is that the one?
Starting point is 01:33:55 I don't know. Or no, Sally Struth, you're thinking of Sally Struthers from, from, from Virginia, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's from all in the family. She was, aren't you? Dunker's daughter. So she really does resemble her a lot. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Oh, she does, yeah. I could see that. She's also, she's in that. She was she, at any point during the show, does she try and talk you into doing online school so that you can be a, an RN? No, but she shows pictures of me with flies all over my face. That always happens. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Yeah, that's right. She's in that, she's in Gilmore Girls, so I have to watch that every year because She's great, though, good for this role. It's a great show. It's, you know, it's a spy show. So there's mystery and, you know, I guess we don't have enough shows that show elderly people, mature people, being real people. Like, they're, it's funny because Ted Danson goes into this facility and he's going through his own life kind of crisis. and he's like, it's like high school.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And it's funny because high school never really changes. Like, you think you get out and, you know, you just have more control over your, the people that you're involved with, right? Yeah. But it's, it's, it's a joy to watch him kind of navigate social situations and relationships. And I'm really, I hope you watch it because it's wonderful. Yeah, it looks like something I want to see. It's 100% on our list just because, obviously, Michael Shore, we love, you know, everything he does, the office and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:35:42 But Ted Danson, again, you can't, I can't go wrong with anything Ted Danson. Well, that's not true because he did, he did a show. See, the problem. Here's my problem. You don't have to complain about Becker, are you? Oh, Becker. I don't know. So he won me over from the Good Place. Yeah, it's a great place.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Oh, how did he lose you before that? Yeah, how did he lose you? I've always liked him. Oh, he was this really skeevy bartender in this show called Toasts or something. No, I really did not like him at Cheers. He didn't like Cheers? Seriously. Oh, you really didn't like him in Cheers.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Like, Cheers was what I was joking. I kind of, I know it's weird, but I don't know. I just didn't really like him in Cheers. Well, his whole vibe was he's a sexist A-hole and it's to make fun. Yeah, and they make fun of that constantly. It's not like, it's kind of his thing. That's not what he is in real life, Nicole. I understand that, but he is his persona.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Okay, you know what? When he went blackface, when he was dating... Oh, Whoopi. That was probably a good lose moment, but, yeah. Like I said, the good place is what kind of won me over to Ted Danson. And so I've been trying to watch whenever I see a Ted Danson show come out. There was one where he was playing, I think, was he the mayor? yeah mayor of uh that was recent um that was i think it was a one season as well but it was really
Starting point is 01:37:12 good um it wasn't that no it was mr mr mayor it was it wasn't i will defend it i will too i liked it i like mr mayor i agree with brian team brian team i really like that was very brief though wasn't it it was like only a season uh and then prior to that i did i did you guys ever see uh what's that show called. Fargo? No, no, no. Oh, he's amazing in Fargo. I'm kidding because I know he's so good in Season 2 of Fargo. If you've never seen Season 2 of Fargo, he's so good. Where is it? I can't find it. There's a show he did where he was, oh, damages. If you ever watched damages, he was in the first 23 episodes of that, I think. Unbelievably cool in that. Also, evil, Nicole, you wouldn't have liked him. But he's a bad guy, but he was really good in it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm a fan. And
Starting point is 01:38:00 anytime he showed up on curb best curb episodes ted dancing oh god absolutely yeah i'll defend him my favorite ted dancing is like just nice ted dance so like so the good place ted dancing yeah plays ted dancing watch fargo season two definitely don't want to watch becker i'm full ted danzen and that's why i think i really like him in a man on the inside like he he's he's he's uh he's a he's a sweet character in this show do you remember this in uh in curb when he was all my god yes such an amazing moment oh my god anyway uh Ted Denson the best husband Cheryl Hines ever had yeah oh dude should have stayed just stayed married to him no just in the show tv husband on the show yeah yeah i wish they i wish that was a real one i wish it was real yeah
Starting point is 01:38:58 although i really like uh his wife's fine What's her name? It's his real name. Mary Steenbergen's. They've been together forever. Oh, wait a minute. BioCow in the chat said my favorite Ted Dant is buried up to his neck in sand. What's he in the text from the Creep show?
Starting point is 01:39:14 Creep show. Yeah. The cheating, the cheating tennis pro or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He played a child molester during the Cheers run and some made-for-TV thing that kind of scarred me. I hated that. You know what? So did the guy from WKRP in Cincinnati on different strokes.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Oh, yeah, Mr. Carlson. Ruined me. I know. I could not buy a Maytag washer for a long time because of that. I ended up. So he redeemed himself on Seinfeld with that brief boss. Another one of George's bosses, he was that for like a couple of episodes. Oh, was he really?
Starting point is 01:39:53 Gordon Jump was? I didn't know that. And it was great. It was the one where George faked like he had. a handicap so they gave him the handicapped bathroom do you remember that he's his boss and then he finds out and they all treat him like crap after and he ends up in a closet it's amazing uh well all right there you go nice one good picks all around everybody um i'm going to go ahead and play mine now this is a docure's yeah documentary okay also on netflix earlier this year i guess is when it came out but i just barely
Starting point is 01:40:23 got around to it and if i could bring this up i could play it here we go here's mine long ago the plains of East Africa were home to our distant ancestors. For reasons lost to time, some of these ancestors decided to leave and headed north to become the Neanderthals. Over time, their numbers grew. Their territory is stretching from Russia to the Atlantic coast. That's a lot of waves there at the end. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Cool, it is. That's the Netflix documentary Secret of the Neanderthals, which as a kid, we were all taught to say Neanderthals. So it's still tricky to remember that, and it feels like people say it wrong when they say it right. But they do. Anyway, that was Sir Patrick Stewart, as you could tell. He's the narrator of the entire thing.
Starting point is 01:41:32 It's not a series. It's a movie, single film, about an hour and a half, a little shorter than that. And it is just as much as we know about their origin and how, you know, their evolution and how we eventually came to be. And it is fascinating. And it also helps that this dude narrates it because it's Patrick Stewart and he narrates everything really well. not a ton to add other than it is what you think it is this is a nature-ish documentary you know deep deeply historical in nature or origin of man all that kind of thing just about as far back as you almost as far back as you can go yeah it's it's very much that um anthropological
Starting point is 01:42:16 I suppose uh and it is really really good um if that sort of thing usually I I love this kind of stuff. I just like nature and science and I love all that stuff in human history. And if that sounds boring, Sir Patrick Stewart will help you with that part. He's very good, very, very, like just carries you through it. You always feel. He teaches my algebra right now. Yes, he has a new one coming out calling the secret life of algebra.
Starting point is 01:42:44 It's coming out soon. But yeah, he's very good at what he does, obviously. It's just freaking, I don't even have to say it. It's Patrick Stewart. He's amazing. And it is really compelling and interesting. So that's what I brought this week. If you want to learn about the origin of man and our evolution and where we came from
Starting point is 01:43:01 and stuff that's outside of recorded history, if that interests you at all or did in school and you want to revisit it, it's a very cool documentary available now. So it's a movie, not a series, or not a limited series or something. Correct. I think we all did series except me today. No, Icarus is a documentary as well. That's right. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:21 So get your two documentaries in. one about modern spy intrigue and then another one about old men a long time ago grumpy old men grumpy old men millions of years ago very grumpy old men and then in between all that watch ted dance and do some cool shit all right and then and then brian's other series some christmasy romantic thing there you go so i'm definitely watching that yeah you will you will absolutely love it nico i might watch the ted dancing thing next i think i really want to see that. And seriously, Brian, let's talk about Kevin can F himself. Sounds good to me. I need to refresh my memory on that because it's been since I recommended it two years ago. Was it two years?
Starting point is 01:44:03 Yeah. I don't know. I can remember what it was. Yeah. There's this guy named Kevin. It turns out he can F himself. That's all I know. It's his talent is, uh, it turns out. Wow. That's a, that's a, that's a lucrative talent. If you're in the right circles, you can make some money. Anyway, yeah, uh, circle. Nicely said. Nicole, it is always a pleasure. I hope you have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the rest of your time out in the car there, you know, where you are right now. Thanks. I'm going to go to work now. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:32 We'll see you soon. Oh, I should say tell Mark to kiss our butts. All right. We are going to get out of here. One quick note that I would like to mention play date this Friday, just a reminder. It'll be our normal TMS time 9 to 11. Everyone can come. This isn't just for patrons, although patrons will get preferential play treatment.
Starting point is 01:44:51 we're going to do a bunch of jackbox stuff because it's just jackbox and fall holiday time they're inseparable to me it's a family game and this is when we think about family and you're our family yeah our online family you are our family so be here Friday 9 to 11 tomorrow again we are off for the holiday I hope you guys have a fantastic day for your Thanksgiving and those outside of the U.S I hope that you enjoy not having have a nice Thursday yeah enjoy Thursday Because of the holiday, I'm going to be doing Coverville today. It is the annual tradition, a big Beatles episode, Beatles covers. This is also the 60th anniversary of Beatles for sale, their fourth studio album. And kind of one of their lesser-known ones, although the song, I Feel Fine, she's in love with me, but I feel fine, came from those sessions. And wasn't released on the album, but was a single that was a non-album single that was released on with, that album. So, um, but of course I always round out the episode with other covers. So
Starting point is 01:45:56 covers of things like eight days a week. Uh, I feel fine. Oh, blah, de, obla, da. While my guitar gently weeps. Happiness is a warm gun. Something. And of course, because it's the day before Thanksgiving, we got to have John Lennon's cold turkey represented as well. Um, that is going to be coming up at noon. Lots of songs. Very few interruptions and, uh, very short interruptions, uh, as I do for the tradition so that you can play this with the family and they don't have to hear me babbling on about Beatles trivia
Starting point is 01:46:26 like I would if you gave me the chance. Sure. There you go. That's going to be today at noon, twitch.tv.tv slash covervill. And of course, I'll be playing some Marvel Snap. I don't know what, probably a discard deck today.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Nice. Some fun with discard. Nice. Well, speaking of songs, let's play one here at the end of the show. Let's play a song. And this one is a request going out to Jason Darmock
Starting point is 01:46:49 in the Discord. He says, It is our wedding anniversary, so we're requesting a cover of, quote, unquote, Our Song. Christina, thank you for making each day a special occasion, even on days when we're feeling
Starting point is 01:47:00 less human than human. I love you, sign Jason. Aw, sweet. That's nice. I like that. Yeah, so a cover of Rob Zombie is more human than human. It was their song, apparently.
Starting point is 01:47:13 And the version I'm playing is a ska version, of course, naturally. It's me, you know. This is the same thing. Scandalous All-Stars from their album, Hit Me from 1997, and cover White Zombies, More Human Than Human. Well, I am the ask for me
Starting point is 01:47:51 The government's sky of all American people I am the crawling bed A fan of a bit about a shadowing my head too I see the suicide A friend of me goodbye to the fucking lies here Scratch off the bird is good Toad my arm is a pretty thing, Yeah
Starting point is 01:48:08 Yeah Yeah Yeah More human than human than human human, more human than you were. More human than you were. Skelet of history, I am electric.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Kid in the car, television, say, yeah, do not do the dumb eyes. Leave the motherfuckers psychological lies, yeah, into a psychic, yeah, turn my soul down and I eat in slow, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are human, human, human, man, human, more human than you man, more human than you may. Yeah, I am the rip-up man
Starting point is 01:49:53 I'm looking for your mind of the American sky Yeah, I am the next-eus-run I want more like, because I ain't done, yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:50:08 More human than human More human than human More human than human More human than human I'm going to be a lot of the I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be.
Starting point is 01:50:26 I'm going to be. I'm going to be I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I don't know what I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I hear of it.
Starting point is 01:51:14 My human that you met My human that you met My human that you met My human my human my human
Starting point is 01:51:25 my human my human My human my human my human my human my human my human
Starting point is 01:51:36 my human then you met my human my human my human that you met my human Oh, looks like someone just got their ears caught in the audio cookie jar at frogpants.com. It's make the dinner or answer the door.

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