The Morning Stream - TMS 2748: Don't Fold Your Ear

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

This punch is chewy. Fancy Vinyl. Revenge is a dish best served over several sequels. Alottsatimes with Dunaway. Tiny hundred year old babies. Little Johnny Smartsuit. Bruh or Bra? I don't like chick peeeeeeas. Definitely Moron. Basically a bean. The Larry P Meniscus Effect. I was a Scientist once, until I took a Cherrio in the meniscus. What can Brown do for you? Cool it, mouth!! Fueled by Vodka with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house, there was a load of people listening to TMS while wearing a blouse. That makes little to no sense. But what does make sense is you signing up at patreon.com slash TMS today. Coming up on the morning stream, this punch is chewy. Fancy vinyl. Revenge is a dish served best over several sequels. A lot of times with Dunaway. Tiny hundred-year-old babies.

Little Johnny smart suit. Brough? Or bruh. I don't like chickpe. Definitely moron Basically a bean The Larry P. Miniscus effect I was a scientist once

Until I took a cheerio in the meniscus What can Brown do for you? Cool it, Mouth Fueled by vodka with Bobby and more On this episode of The Morning Stream I'll take that as a warning You take it and bury it, maybe it'll grow lilies I'll see you later

Later the better My microwave Johnny cakes are ready The morning stream. They wouldn't give us any more fish. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, December 9th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian.

Hi, Brian. Hello. Happy Monday to you. A new brand new week. Yeah. You know what? I could tell you it was a perfect Monday because, The cold is in the recession stage of the cold, so I've still got kind of a nasty cough, a little congestion or whatever, but my energy levels are back up, fever's gone, feeling pretty good, except for one terrible mistake I made yesterday.

I will share with you now. Yeah. Horrible mistake, but I'll explain. I told Brian this at the end of film sack, or told all the film sack boys, I said, yeah, after this, I'm just going to go lay on the couch and watch TV, which is exactly what I did. but I also slept a lot on said couch. And I laid there, comfy as can be, but then fell asleep. And somehow during my respite, by the way, and Nick was over too, he's also got this. He and I are just kind of on the couch being bums. And I must have slept on my ear weird because what happened is when I woke up,

I could tell that I had folded my ear in half, roughly half. And was laying on the... You didn't measure it to me. Yeah, I didn't measure this down to the micron. But it was like a, you know, a fold of the top ear down, kind of almost halfway down across where you were out of the earhole, right? Yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something.

That freaking hurts. And it hurt for hours after I got up. Just like... Yeah, I can't even imagine, can you see it or am I blocking with my head on? Oh, no, no, looks good. Yeah, like that. Yeah. I mean, that, you know, for a second, doesn't hurt at all.

But I imagine with your head, the weight of your head on top of it for however long a nap is. Yeah. My gosh. Especially this big fat noggin of mine. So you would think that in your, you know, in your sleep process, you would say, hmm, this is uncomfortable. I think if I move my head a little bit, that discomfort will go away. Yeah. But no.

No, my subconscious was like, nope, you're going to lay here. You're going to not notice it. It's going to be like 45 minutes or something of pressure. And when I woke up and moved my head, it was like surgery pain. It hurt so bad. That's why. And at first I panicked because I went, oh, no, it's infection. I've got a full-on ear infection from this thing.

I thought the cold. It's even added to it. Yeah, I thought the cold got worse like during that 45-minute nap or whatever. And so I was kind of like, damn it, I don't want to go in. I don't want to take antibiotics. I don't want to deal with this. freaking this thing sucks already no it's fine after a couple hours it just kind of went good it just it fixed itself good yeah don't fold your ear those what I'm saying

people don't fold your ear yeah yeah yeah it's not good you hear about these people that with the cauliflower here you know with the wrestling and the whatnot yeah yeah the boxing yeah man those guys how do they even do it the rest of their lives they got this weird fleshy you know bigger than normal yeah protuberans coming out of their ear freaking nasty that is a protuberance not nice at all uh how was your weekend Brian is besides you know, sleeping on ears. Did you do anything fun? Yeah, we went to my grandmother's 100th birthday party out in Brush, Colorado, the town of

Brush, population 5,000, something like that. And her actual 100th birthday is later this month, but this was a good time for everybody to get together before the holidays. There's a lot of holiday travel and stuff like that. So I was in charge of music, so I took this giant PA system speaker that I had, and I put all our music on it from those CDs and cassettes on a little thumb drive and then just put it in there and hit play and it all worked. And then I also, last minute realized, or not realized, but was told that I was doing a slideshow

too. But the good news is Apple makes it really easy. You just take all the photos. You make sure that they're all upright and cropped and that sort of thing. And then you say photos, create slideshow, Ken Burns effect, this long on every slide. and then you go through it once and you kind of say, oh, that slide's all weird, I'm going to have it. There's really cool features in the Ken Burns effect now

where you can say, start on her face here and then zoom out to show all the other people that are in it. You basically give it the focal point and say start here and here. Exactly. It's really, really cool, really easy to do. And you do it on a per picture basis and you have full control over that sort of thing. Can I show this picture ever real quick with you guys? Of course, yes.

Hold on, you guys, right here. It's adorable. Look at this, 100 years old. You guys are tall compared to her. We are tall. She's a little lady. She's a wheelie. Love it.

She is spry. She plays golf two or three times a week when it's nice out. And she, you know, she plays the same course that she's played for the last 60 years. multiple times a week. And I think she knows the location. She can play it blindfolded. She knows location of every tree. She knows how many yards it is to that dog leg

and where that chunk of rock is that, you know, got left over from when they pulled that cement fountain out or blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's, you know, she makes 100 look good. If I'm as, I mean, she was running around at the party. She wasn't like holding court at a table and letting people come to her. she was she had her little um uh what do they call that thing the the thing that pumps oxygen to the little hose under her nose it is a not a condenser but like a activate no something anyway she had that kind of centrally located and she just went chew chew chew chew chew chew chew all over the um all over the this hall that we um that we rented i like that you like another word that they were using for it not no no the hose is the canula

or canula or canula but it was the the box itself is a concentrator thank you max trollbot that's the word concentrator so what was she like tethered to it like kind of she was tethered but you'd never like she doesn't care it wraps around her leg

she's so used to this thing that that you know there's a comfort I think that she has when it's when it's wrapped around her leg and and she kind of knows where it is as opposed to not knowing where it is that she but she doesn't trip over it. She just do-choo-choo-choo-choo-choo-choo all over the event hall.

They brought in caters who made this incredible, like, Chipotle bar, like with different kinds of tortillas and shells and soft tacos and bowls and beans and rice and four kinds of meat. Cornetus and chorizo and stuff. It was great, and then every topping you can imagine. But she made punch the night. before. And I'd never heard of this recipe, and I think this is a thing that you can do.

But you make the punch with jello, and you cook the jello, like you boil the jello, and then mix it in with all the juices and sodas and whatever it is he makes with punch to make punch. But what's interesting about it is that it congeals a little bit. but not fully. It's still liquid. And it settles to the bottom. So they had this in one of those like, like those urns with a spigot on it, right?

So you bring your cup up and you go, I'm going to do a little bit higher. So people can see, you put your cup underneath it and pull the little handle, fill it up, and then release it. And you get a mix of the jellified punch and the liquid punch.

And I didn't know. what was going on here and so i start drinking it and all of a sudden it's like oh this is getting chewy and thick and uh it's got i've got punch with mouth feel so a little thick as you put a little thick and liquid uh that i that i uh enjoy there you know what it was good it was good i had a second cup but i had to cut it with some some water because it's way too sweet um but uh yeah that's what it sounds like to me just you describing this sounds like the sweetest that's got to be too sugary that whole it's just super sugary and it was it was great i mean there was a healthy amount of juice in there um but juice the juice you buy is usually

extra sweetened anyway it's not just like right out of the fruit it's a little sugarfied and uh concentrated and remixed with sugar and water and stuff like that sure sure i was like there was no booze at this thing easy reader um i really wanted to somebody said uh oh yeah they're somebody's got a flask they're cutting the punch with whiskey and i said and i said said, oh, no, that's horrible. Can you point them out to me, please? Yeah. So I could go and talk to them.

Yeah. Tell them, give them what for? Yes, exactly. So that's interesting. Was it like chunks or consistent thickness or? Like a consistency, an overall consistency. Not like having boba at the bottom of a of a milk tea, but more like you're having a slurpy. that is not icy temperature.

Oh, okay. You've got that kind of... Right. There's like some slush, but there's also liquid. Yeah, it's slush, but it's not frozen cold, like normally you'd expect. But, you know, I bet there is a side effect to this is that you can chill this stuff

and it retains its cold a lot longer than regular punch because of the density of the sludge, Jellos Ledge at the bottom. Is this a thing that she's famously made for years? I never even heard about this before then. But we're all sitting at the table. I was chatting with some Bostonian cousins. And they're saying, oh, yeah.

I was like, what's the deal with the punch? It's got a little bit of a heft to it at the bottom. And she's like, yeah, I think she was, because they were with her the night before. and like, oh, yeah, she was mixing, she was boiling jello and adding it to the punch. So that must be what's going on. I'm like, oh, all right, well, it's not bad. Boiling jello for a drink.

That is a weird thing to hear. For a drink for a, for a punch. I guess people have, I mean, jello shots are just jello with booze on them, right? Yeah, but those are, you know, you're eating jello and as solidified as, as you can get with jello shots. They're usually a little bit. Yeah, they're jello. It's basically a solid food at that point. Yeah, but I think there's something about.

the properties of oh no i guess you can't freeze alcohol but you can you can put them into jello shots yeah but yeah this is like as close as you get so that's true right if you poured a bunch of vodka in um i don't know an ice tray left it in there for days it wouldn't matter it still be liquid right wouldn't matter would still be vodka and that's how my friend cliff knew that his daughter was taking shots of vodka out of the freezer is because he pulled out the bottle one day and realized it had frozen oh she was replacing it with water but she would take take drinks out of it Brian buried the headline today.

That's an amazing story. That's a whole different group of people. Unrelated. They are not relations. No, they are not relations at all. Holy crap.

All right. Don't do that, kids, or do. I don't know. Maybe. You know what you want. You know that you're going to get caught if you replace it with water.

Yeah. And maybe your dad, I mean, there may be cases where dads are just dumb and don't know that vodka doesn't freeze. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

Or you could say, oh, this is cheap vodka, dad. You shouldn't have bought it at the, whatever you've got. What kind of strand of hands, vodka, is this business? That's right.

That ain't FDA approved. Well, anyway, awesome. That sounds great and happy birthday to your grandma. She looks awesome for her age. I want to be like that if I were hit a hundred. If I'm, look, I don't even, I have no illusions that I think I'll make it to a hundred. But if I do, here's the problem. You never see really tall 100-year-olds ever.

They don't exist. They're all tiny ladies like this, like your grandma. Little bitty people. It just shrink down. So if you all grew up and you're like, I hate it being short, people gave me shit all the time. It was not cool.

I couldn't reach this or that. I was always behind some tall guy in the theater. Whatever your complaints are, you will live longer than all of us because our circulation don't go that far after a certain way. No, it's so true. Oh, I did find, um, uh, Diane, um, one of, well, Carol's daughter, her son was my stepdad.

If that helps, um, you put the, the pieces together. she's my grandmother on my stepdad's side got it okay um let's see can i give you a little picture that you can share if people want to see what a young brian looked like at 11 years old at my stepdad and my mom's wedding hell yeah let's see it 11 year old brian i'm ready for this see if you can see if you can spot me in this photo all right oh wow look at you little little johnny smart suit i like it yeah that is a little johnny smart suit I love it. All right. So let me get some ideas of who we got here.

Yeah. So starting from the left side, those are my Hungarian grandparents. Okay. So on the far left, these two, okay. Far left, those two, Julius and Maria. Yeah. And then center two people are my mom and my stepdad. Okay. He had a beard and a... He did. Oh, he was like a... Dude was like, like, Sam Elliott with that thing, man. It was like...

Yeah. spectacular beard far right it's uh carol in the red there with uh she's the she shrunk she's the one who's shrunken down and in that photo turned a hundred yeah and then her husband mel on the far right um that dude looked like he was in the navy looked like a total roughneck like super intimidating when you first meet him but was the absolute nicest guy you'd ever meet bend over backwards like he would let me drive the combine harvester when i'd come come down to brush for the weekends and i'm sure i'd be like er turning it you know left and right and not going straight lines and he never

once raised his voice to me or anything is like all right brian why don't you just see if you can maybe get that thing a little bit straightened out there could you yeah he's even got that cut man he looks like leerm he does like basically you could put a wine glass on the top of his uh his buzz cut there it was like perfectly flat yeah yeah he's definitely got that look well and look at you beaming down there like a young man like a little young guy going hey i'm the world's my oyster look at all this hair look at all i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna grow up and talk in my basement to people five days a week and somehow make a few dollars doing it i also

like somehow how that car is a thousand years old behind you it's like way old it's what is it Volvo. That's a Volvo. It is a light blue Volvo. Yeah. Well, probably lasted forever. That thing never breaks. It did. Yeah, actually, it totally did. No, it was a real-timex trollbot. Come on. Yeah. You really are living up to your name, aren't you? Yeah. Trollbot. Brian did not wear a clip-on. Not there, but I did when I was wedding DJ, man. That was like, actually, it wasn't a clip-on. It was a bow-tie that you attached in the back with Velcro. Oh, my. It was a bow-tie that had the two straps, and you just basically put it around your neck and go, and it would connect. Wow. That's awesome.

I'm not going to tie a bow tie like every single night that I'm DJing. No, what are you? Some kind of freak? Forget it. Some kind of freak? Come on now. Well, that's awesome. Good, good birthdays all around to Grandma and all the fun stuff around it.

A quick thing from Craig from, where is he from? He didn't say, but he sent us an email about the Blofeld thing. So it's a little clarity on the Bond thing. It says you and Brian are talking about James Bond. Blowfeld so easily. This was due to a rights lawsuit. They could no longer use the name Blofeld or Specter. At least at the time, that's all changed now.

Yeah, of course. If you look at this, let's see. The Christoph Waltz. Yeah, it's wild. They didn't even mention, they didn't call him Blowfeld in the beginning of the beginning of that movie. The

Free Eyes Only. No, they didn't even refer to him other than I'm going to kill you. Right, exactly. Exactly. Oh, I'm going to get, and they showed him petting the cat and that he was bald and all that sort of thing. But, yeah, never, never, never, not once during that opening does Roger Moore say, I'm going to get you Blofeld. Yeah, never happens. I'm just seeing if I can find the part where he goes into the tube here, chat.

Here we go. That should be the last, the last few seconds of this thing. And it was Bond's way of getting him back for killing Tracy. Yeah. Boom. I mean, revenge is a, sometimes revenge is a long road. And James Bond finally got there. There's several movies of Long Road to get back to doing that.

There he is. Okay. When he says some line, look at him in his old chair. Oh, he's going to go? Boy, it would have been a totally different intro if James would have missed and you would have seen him like bounce off the side of that chimney. Yeah, things would have entered new territory there for sure. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, thanks for that, Craig.

We appreciate the clarification. Larry Canobie says that was Brofeld, not Blofeld. Oh, got you. Okay, that was Brofeld. Oh, I see. Bro, don't drop me down that chimney, bra. Don't do it, brah. That's not tight, bro.

Brough. Is it B-R-A or B-R-U-H? B-R-U-H is how I spell. I would, too. Yeah. That's how you see it with the kids, you know. Brian. Yeah, oh, yeah, you got something there?

What do you got? I do. Right here, I have, so. I teased about this in the discord, but I have in my hands right here the plaza contract right here. Nice. And I've gone over it with the lawyers, as you do, and made sure all the eyes were dotted and all the T's were crossed. Nice. And I'm happy to say that it is signed.

It has also been countersigned and sent back to me. And we now can officially announce that the dates for. the TMS Vegas Viva TMS Vegas 25 is uh 2025 are going to be pretty much everyone had this figured out April 28th 29th and 30th oh my gosh look at that perfect timing we wedges us right in that time where uh we we skip all the crazy sports moments in Vegas so we have less traffic and stuff we kind of get the city to ourselves a little bit and uh yeah it's before the NFL draft so things don't get too crazy it's like the perfect it's the perfect time as long as as long as the golden

nights don't uh make it to the the playoffs that we should be okay that's true but if nothing else then you get something to bet on while you're there um this is our this our Vegas music by the way that's right we're going to Vegas I think this is AI so I don't get in trouble music that I hate yeah stuff you just can't stand yeah they are going to give us um reduced resort fees again um Wi-Fi uh uh um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um Um, and they are, this time they're doing what are called shoulder dates. Shoulder dates. Okay. Tell me more about shoulder dates. So we've got those three days with the discount prices, right? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 428, 429, 430. Yeah. Um, they're also giving us for the first time discounts on the Sunday and before and the Thursday after. There's even a little bit of a discount on the Saturday. Um, but it's not a huge discount. It's still like, it's still like a hundred. something bucks for that

Saturday night, but it's there's nothing we can do about that. Sure. It's weekends in Vegas. You pay more. That's what you do. It's weekends in Vegas, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. But anyway, those are the dates. Now, here's the deal. I'm telling you guys the dates with peace and love. I'm telling you the dates now so that you can start asking for that time off, and you can start looking at

flights. But what I don't want you to do is, obviously, we don't have a reservation link yet. We'll have that this week. Yeah. um and uh as soon as i have it obviously i'll post it and share it on the show um and also you know maybe maybe don't quite do the land rush of of other events just yet because i need to coordinate with um the taskville folks the plan is that i'm going to do all the taskville recording on sunday and and then get stuff to k t data and hammond so that they can um edit it down and and things like that sure sure um because i don't want a situation like we had last year where

wednesday during the beginning of the live tms vegas show kt data is furiously editing video down that i can show during the thumb drive during the live tms vgas show sure sure yeah you got you got other people that doing stuff you got to worry about which i totally get it's right but monday night still will be the um the the the meet up icebreaker thing at uh player one Tuesday night will be an event. Right now I'm looking at the brand new golf miniature golf place that looks absolutely freaking amazing in Mandalay Bay called Swingers. I'm a fan of the name.

I mean, the name is funny, but it sure implies a different kind of indoor activity. Sure. And then Wednesday, of course, will be the live show. The board game thing will be Tuesday this time instead of Wednesday, because there's somebody in the room on Wednesday. and um what else uh oh tom and bobby and i think tvs travis are all talking about potentially doing a live version of their shows um monday oh okay first first half of the day so cool that sounds great we've also just so you guys know there's obviously there's more info coming so watch for that

but um tickets to come and be there and be a part of it will happen early in the year what we'll have in terms of swag and all that, all being determined right now, but that's all coming as well. And that's all you need. And then just all you have to really do is listen to us and make sure you just pay attention to updates and we'll let you know. Oh, is the new URL working yet? Or what's the plan there? Not yet. I have TMS.orgas.

I love, thank you again, Tanner, if you're listening. I love the fact that we've now got the TMS. It's 50 bucks a year, but I think it's well worth it to be able to say TMS. Vegas for all the information. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, so look for that soon. But for right now, VivaTMS Vegas works. That has not been updated, and that will be updated when I do the domain switchover.

Yeah. So early info, everybody. Don't get too crazy, but we got more coming. This is to you can start asking for time off. And you can start looking at flights, although flights usually are the cheapest between 40 and 50 days out from the event. I don't want to tell anybody to that and say, we waited and waited and waited, Brian, and then prices went up.

But typically, 45 to 50 days, I think, is the sweet spot for buying flights. But if you see a good flight, grab it. Yeah. And if our estimates are correct, there are some, let's call them, personalities around the network who might be coming this year that you've never seen at one of these before. We're not going to commit yet because we've got to get final on everybody, but it's looking likely. We've got at least one who is saying that they are committing to coming who have never been to ATMS Vegas. Yeah.

So let your brain go wild as to who that might be because we're not telling you until it's confirmed. All right. I think almost all of the Tuesday people have confirmed and one is working on it. Sure. Yeah, our Tuesdays, I felt like our Tuesdays were almost a lot. Tuesdays are pretty much a lock. Those people are always there. You can pretty much guess who the.

the one Tuesday person that's working on it. Yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, good luck, everybody, and we will let you know, as we know. As we have these things confirmed, we'll absolutely say names, but I just wanted to give you a little teaser there. Okay, well, as that, let's get a game going today.

Yeah. We have prizes to give away. These prizes aren't going to get up and give themselves away, so we got to... They are not. We've got to do something about that. Hey, look who it is. It's our old pal, Brian.

done away calling in from south carolina hello brian how are you oh hi scott and brian oh is it monday it's monday it is monday it is monday you know my i got an email last night that said one of his favorite things about you is that you say instead of saying lots of times you say a lots of times he loves that what's wrong with that nothing he wants you to keep doing it he wants you to say it i won't a lots of times i just will do that lots of times you will and there's something lots of times there's something kind of sweet about it's like almost like the way a little kid would look at something, you know? Oh, I'm glad that my ignorance amuses you.

No, no, no. I don't think it's ignorant at all. I think you should just be you is what I'm saying. Hey, check it out. No more final. I'm not changing who I am. That's right. Don't change who you are.

Peace and love. Peace and love. All right. Let's get to this game that Brian's devised. Brian, tell us what we're doing here and how we might. Help somebody win some shit today. That'd be great. Oh my gosh.

That would be great. Welcome to the morning. Half ass is a trivia game where I'm actually going to be giving you the answers. I'm going to give Scott and Bright a category and six possible answers. Three of those answers are right. And three of them like going to play playground at the Luxor two years in a row are just wrong. If you provide, you can provide one, two or three guesses. But if any of those guesses are wrong, you get zero points for that round.

Get one right, gets you a point. Two right gets you two points. And three right gets you three. I'm sorry, five. What the hell? Two right gets you three points. This year, right, you see five points. It really is.

Maybe I should follow the script. Well, a lots of times, if you'd say it, right. Yeah. We wouldn't have to be in the situation. A lots of times. That's right. And the winner will get some Reese's pieces. The player with the most points after three rounds wins the prize for their contestant.

And contestants have been pulled from members of the tab pool that aren't able to listen live. Scott, you're playing for Justin in Severn, Maryland. Nice. Yeah. I got your back. Brian, you're playing for Eric in Prior Lake, Minnesota. Oh, even nicer. Yeah, it used to be a real lake, but it's a prior lake now.

It's prior. It's prior. It's a Richard Pryor Lake, yeah. It's a Richard Pryor Lake. It's a Richard Pryor Lake. Great. I miss Richard Pryor. I know. I know. He was great. Let's get to the game here. All right. Let's get to question number one. Science. I hope you're ready for a science question. Which of these are your noble gases? All of them. Your choices are chlorine, crypto.

Radon, Hydrogen, Moron, and Helium. Moron. Three of these are noble gases. Three of them are not. I'm clicking on the moron. I mean, moron's awesome sounding. Right, right, right. I don't think that's it.

I'm going to lock in with two because the nobility of gases and I are. Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing. I'm going to go with two as well then. you're going to go with two you guys both went with the same two look at you guys in your twos you're matching twos twosies uh helium which which is

uh let's see hydrogen is number one helium is number two on the periodic table helium is a noble gas very good um you guys both selected that one you also both selected hydrogen hydrogen is not it's not nobly

it's not noble your noble your noble guests they're Krypton and Raid and this list, or Krypton, Radon, and the helium. I thought Radon was, the reason I didn't choose it, I almost did, but the reason I didn't is because it's a thing that's supposed to be super dangerous if you have like a radon leak or whatever. And I always assume the noble ones were less of a problem. They're noble. And also Krypton.

That's kind of what I was thinking too, but not in exactly the same way, but the same thing. It was like, I'm not sure. I didn't know Krypton was. And also, Moron, I'm really glad Moron is not a gas. Boron is a gas I don't know I've met a lot of morons And they're quite a gasy I can't believe we both Wift on that one Johnson

There we go Bobby explains Non-reactive full outer shell electrons All of these are on the right side of periodic table Oh so Noble is just an acronym Or an initialism No it's an acronym Because you can say it

No No No I thought he said non-reactive Non-reactive, but that doesn't make noble for outer shell. Oh, I thought, oh, I thought he was spelling it out somehow. Okay, never mind. All right.

So noble, noble is in nobility? See, that's where I get hung up. They're named after Jeremy Noble star of succession. Got it. Is it Jeremy Noble? Jeremy Noble. That's your guy. It's your actor.

Exactly. Okay, well, good. You know, may he live forever and know that his gases are about him? Let's do it. Or non-reactive. Yeah. All right. Well, let's, let's, let's,

let's go to zoology for a second one. I guess this is technically science as well. Which of these are flightless birds? All of them. You got the skua, hactua,

the ria, the moa, the mina, the kea, and the weka. I don't know why that strikes me as funny. Is it a single syllable? No.

Skua, no. I think I just ordered a bunch of food from the Hawaiian place down the way. Yeah. All right. I don't know.

Whiteless birds. flightless birds. This before or after you clip their wings. No, F-N-I-Bin. Right, I guess all birds can be flightless if you clip their wings. It does, if it does feel like I'm in IKEA trying to decide which desk I want in there. Yeah, totally does. All right, you guys are both locked in.

You chose a bunch of different ones here, but you both settled on Moa. That's the only one you agreed upon. And the Moa is a flightless bird. Very good. One of you selected Skua, the other one selected. Kea and the scua is a seabird which means it has to be able to fly

the Kea the Kea is a parrot and also has to fly your flightless ones are the Ria and the Weka and then the minor you've seen mineas usually speaking birds they look like blackbirds

they're a flavor of starling that can talk that can repeat you. When the Ria goes extinct do we say die a rea Is that what we say? When that happens? Well, we say they're gone area. Gone area is even better.

Perfect. I almost chose Weka because it just sounded right. But then Kia, I thought, Brian's playing a joke. It's like sounds like the car. Yeah, yeah. It's a bad idea. Anyway. They all sound like ships that sell from the, you know, to the coast.

Yep. Right. Right. All right. All right. Well, going into round three with zero points, which means it's anybody's game. Let's go to schools. go to education and which of these are ivy league schools your choices are brown tufts university

of pennsylvania mit amherst and columbia three of these are ivy league schools three of them are not you'll note that brian removed yeah you'll know that brian has removed a number of normally easily identifiable ivy league school you're harvard you're not seeing those on this list yeah interesting thing. Yeah. All right. Oh, man. This is hard.

I only know one for sure. I'm pretty sure I know one. I'm pretty sure one of is definitely not, but the other four. Hmm. I'm locking in with a certain number of chosen answers. How many? Not saying which. You can imagine it's more than one because I said a number of.

I guess it could still be one. That's true. Yeah. Taking a risk. I don't want to tie. I don't want a tie. Oh, my gosh, look at that. Scott lucked in with two. Brian locked in with one. Scott, you locked in with Columbia.

Yeah. Columbia is a member of the Ivy League. Oh, good job. It's the only one I knew for sure. The rest of these. Brian, you lucked in with Brown. Brown is a member of the Ivy League. So as of right now, you guys each have one.

But did Scott guess a second? Scott chose a second one. Did he choose correctly? One out of four chances. He did not. University of California, even though it looks like it doesn't belong to this list. University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school. Congratulations going to Brian at one point.

If all you need to win, it's apparently is one point. I was one hair away from choosing Brown. Really? Instead of Amherst? Instead of Amherst. Instead of. I just thought, well, wait a minute. I don't know why.

Yeah, but the way these are designed to make us question ourselves. And so they did the job. And I questioned myself. When I did this before I looked at the answers, I had brown tufts and Columbia. I thought Tufts was a member of the Ivy League. So I got it wrong myself. It was a tough loss. MIT was an easy no because they're just nerds.

Yeah, they just do nerd things there. Great nerd things. There's nothing wrong with the nerd things. Did I have a typo or something? Or did, uh, what? Oh, no, I guess I didn't have a typo. Somebody, yeah, it wasn't a typo in my part. Oh, it was a tough, another, uh, somebody, somebody else is a typo.

There's no typo in my, in my, who's, where's, uh, oh, the chat says there's a typo. I guess that's, yeah, Talia, Tipoed. Oh, got it. All right. Uh, which means, congratulations going to Eric in Prior Lake, uh, did I say Minnesota? Yeah, Prairie, Minnesota. Yeah. Um, because it's, you know, land of a thousand lakes.

Is that right? Is that, is that, uh, yeah, that's their, there, there, there's, there, thing, right? 10,000? 10,000? 10,000? That's a lot of lakes. Yeah. Landlakes is what it is.

Yeah. Um, you're getting a copy of, this is awesome. Baldersgate enhanced edition. What? Bledersgate 2 enhanced edition. Those are classics. Yep. Exactly.

If you've been all over the, the Balders Gate three, uh, and you've been like, yeah, I really would like to see what Balders Gate was like before that, uh, we'll now. And we'll even throw in a free episode of, play retro for you. That's right. There you go to talk all about that. Yeah, they're still excellent and these versions are great because they're, you know, full 4K widescreen, uh, whatever's. The iPad versions are also very good, but those games hold up. They may look a little ugly, but, uh, they got the jaw,

they got the sauce in there. The sauce. Big thanks to Racer 951. He gave those to me and said, um, here you go. Uh, they're, they're, uh, good old games. Is that it? GoG? Yeah, Gog, you got a good old games, yep. And they have to be claimed before February 7th, so I'll put that on the note. Get on it. Nice. But who would wait? Yeah, who would wait? Yeah, why would you wait? We're coming in a holiday time, which is like the absolute time you should be playing video games. But don't worry, Justin and Severn, Maryland, you're going to be getting a copy of Caramazoo. Which is also very good. I have Caramazoo, and it is good. Great game.

Oh, I see the doctor. Real quick, though, Eric Burke and Pryor Lake, is Prior Lake, is Prior Lake one of the 10,000 lakes, do you think? I think that's a reference to... I wish it wasn't it. It's like, why don't ever count us? Doesn't it? I mean, I don't know if it has to be, but it sounds like it probably is. And that's my other question. Are there a ton of cities named?

Or I guess if you're just in proximity to a lake, you become the town of that lake. I bet you'll like 9,998 is like always questionable. It's like, is it really a lake? Come on. Yeah. I mean, it's, I'm looking at a map. Oh, wow, there are a lot of casinos. The Little Six Casino in private.

lake but there is a lake i'm looking at a photo of the lake right now population 28,000 it's 20 miles southwest of minneapolis okay and um uh i would guess that it is counted as one of the lakes i would think so if you got 10,000 you can get to 10,000 i've been a few of those lakes really just pawns yeah yeah the land of 10,000 ponds uh it's all relative anyway hey brian you should probably remind people how they can be contestants uh when they're out there Oh, yeah, right. If you want to be a contestant, get your name in at frogpants.com slash TMS. You'll see a link over there to be a contestant on half-asses.

You don't have to do anything. You just have to enter your name, your location, and your email address. And if I randomly pick you, then you get the prizes. You get either one prize or two prizes, depending on how well these guys do. And what else was I going to say about? that. Don't put your name in more than once. I sort the sheet and I delete duplicates and if I see duplicates

and the name comes up and I see a duplicate, I get rid of the duplicates. So, uh, do you have to like locate duplicates? You had to actually physically look and go on. I have to look and actually see them. I know I could. I could set up a, uh, duplicate checker account if or something. But people

put, so what I'm hearing is take your chances. Email address. They put different names and, uh, they they put their name in a different format. or their location in different format. Yep. Well, there you go. Go ahead and just send it again.

But if I, and I'll sort, and if I see two of them, I'll just take it off of there. But yeah. Well done. Winmegas in the chat. That is going to do it for that. Brian Dunaway,

always good having you on. We'll do it again Wednesday. Hey. Yeah. Do you know how many people we saw get killed by coconuts this past weekend on film sack? No. Did we?

Actually, we didn't have any coconut deaths. That's right. You know why? We didn't have shark deaths, though. Yeah. Yeah, because it was all sharks. Because you think that Jaws is real and that that should reflect real life. When you see a scary movie about sharks, therefore there must be a bunch of sharks out killing people.

Right on the TV. I know. It was right there on your VHS copy on your CRT. It's on the TV. C. Shark. Brian did, you guys don't know it if you haven't seen it, but Brian just did a perfect rendition of this lady in that movie. Yeah.

It was pretty good. Yeah. You should watch it. Is it Tina? Was Tina do that? Yeah, Tina. Yeah, it was Tina. Tina's joy.

Shish, shh. No one does that enough. We need that to come back as a comedy routine. Dunaway, kiss our butts. I got it before he can reply. You did. Well done. Feel good about that.

All right. Let's get to some quick news. Probably only have time for one here, but let's do it anyway. So here we go. It's time for the news. And it's brought to you. by brought to you by da dreadlord and monica are playing through silent hill to remake on twitch you can watch the horror yourself at twitch dot tv slash da dreadlord that's d a underscore dreadlord

nice so we got a story about a truck hauling 44 thousand pounds of chickpeas burned up after illegally driving through death valley oh no those things pop too like when you uh you can put them in a pan and they pop when you roast them. They do. They're very good. They are very good. Do you, when you cook with those or cook with those? When I cook with them.

When I cook with them. Do you guys call them chickpeas or do you call them garbonzo beans or do you call them sewer peas? What do you call them? Definitely chickpeas. When she was growing up, that's all they called them. And so that's just stuck around here. But I've heard others say, I've never heard the sewer one though. That one's new.

Yeah, that's spelled like not S-E-W. I think it's S-E-U-E-R-P-S. That's unfortunate, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Exactly. It's like when your disease is named after someone's terrible last name. Oh, you got janky-ass disease. Sorry to hear that.

It's not spelled that way because that's the company that does sweet peas. There's a, there's a, yeah. Chick-peas are really, really good for you, too. Great pea to. They are. Yeah. I mean, it's basically a bean. And it has lots of.

grind them up with some red pepper and make some yummy hummus. Oh, yeah. Some good hummus. Homemade hummus. There's hardly anything better than homemade hummus if you do it right. Really isn't. Yeah. Yeah.

Right now next door, well, way over there. Can't hear it. But my wife is freeze drying more, not freeze dry. What do you call it? Dehydrating. Dehydrating more chicken. But this time, this time instead of being for the dogs, it's a little snacky, snacky for me because we seasoned it

and did all this stuff to it first. Nice. Yeah, I'm all excited because I'm a good protein snack, right? Because it's all protein. Yeah. Having that around here in a little bowl or something way better than some chips or some shit. You know? Heck yeah. That's what I'll be doing. Anyway, this truck carrying this

44,000 pounds burned up after illegally driving to Death Valley National Park. It's not because it was national parks because the heat index there is so bad that if you haven't closed non-refrigerated tractors like this. You're just going to ruin whatever's inside of there. Just going to bake it. The tractor trailers brakes overheated while descending the daylight

pass in Mud Canyon Road, which is closed to commercial truck traffic, according to the National Park Service. Driver appeared to be uninjured and was able to pull over once they reached the flat terrain later on CA190. Park officials responded to the incident approximately 5.30 a.m. Nothing ever good happens at 530 a.m. with call trans and the California Highway Patrol. Chips. That's what that was? That's right.

I mean, Caltrans, caltrans. Yeah, but, but the CHP. Yeah. Chips. That's your CHP.

A little I and little S like they did in the opening and it's chips. Yeah. John and Ponch, saving the world. That's right. And reporting back to Chris

Pine's dad at the station. Robert Pine was the chief. Anyway. I did that point. but I did not know. You didn't know that? He's his dad, that guy, the Robert Pine guy.

I thought we talked about that before. Three probably did. Three episodes of that I've probably watched in my entire life. Oh my gosh, Chips was on all the time here, but I think it was mostly my dad's fandom of Chips. Yeah. I wasn't really into it, but he loved it. He thought that was amazing.

Nice. And I even, as a kid, would see the scenes where they're both riding together, having a conversation on the freeway. And I would notice they were bumping at the exact same moment and all this. And I'm like, Dad, I think they're on a train. each other well, which you probably would be able to do. So I'd say, Dad, I think they're on a trailer. No, that's real. They're filming that.

I'm like, no, I think they're on a trailer or something. Then later we heard somewhere. Yeah, they filmed those shots on trailers. I was like, yeah, got him. Yeah. He may be wise and have lots of information for me, but I got him this time, as is what I said. Anyway, commercial truck caught fire.

There's chickpeas. Probably not get cleaned up because they just exploded and they're gross and they're everywhere. Yeah. Anyway. This is slippery, too. I'm sure. I mean, I imagine that's why the main reason they had to close the road is because you drive on those things, they're just going

to slide all over the place. Yep. And in this case, the brakes just could not handle the heat. So I guess what we're saying is if you're long-haul trucker, do not take a shortcut through the Death Valley National Park. No. It smells like burnt chickpeas out there. Smells like burnt garbanzo beans. Yeah, nobody wants that

unless you're, I guess if you're into it. I don't know. People are into whatever they're into. We're going to take a break. When we come back from them the break, we'll have Bobby here. We're going to talk about science, a little bit of a callback from a previous episode, get a little deeper. And that'll be happening here shortly after this break from Brian. What do you have? Well, we are going to be looking at a Breton musician.

Isn't I been pronouncing that right? Zoe is at Breton, B-R-E-T-O-N, over there in the UK. She is a songwriter named Emil Quincquist, Q-U-I-N-Q-Q-U-I-S, Quincis. But she just goes by the name Quincquist in, in, you know, Oh, it's French? Oh, I thought she was, I thought this was UK. It's going to be trouble. It's going to be trouble now.

All right. Anyway, so, okay, never mind from France. Let's see. She shared a brand new track ahead of her performance at the Transmusicales Festival, which was this last weekend. This is the first new song from Quinquist. It was probably pronounced Quinquie then, probably if she's French, right? It's definitely not Quinquist.

Queen Queen Queen. There you go. Since her A-E-R-E-P and her debut album, which came out in 2022, this is a new song called Moareg, M-O-R-R-E-G, which translates to Mermaid. Oh, look at that. It's a haunting love song between a mermaid and a sailor. That's what you're about to hear. It's beautiful.

It really is beautiful. Here is the song Moreg from Quinquy. Lartin peta-scentes, pass it dostes, Lartin peta-velis, passer, restas on the cat. Ah, kentiliet quellie that, I'ma-moh-chweil. One door and who are you, Onylo, it's that it is L'artin petaviris

Have you sawed, and a vogue A ma'amontes-o' was Heard the nerve at Hamacharis. And lavent the city I'd forward to the red. And then la fell on the least the end and who can't stand. In fact that you for the rest

In fact that you're going to see her. In all the fell, I see her, oh, you know, that's a sea, and in the world, I see, and in the world, I see, Oh, I'm going to stay. Hello, on the world on the fell

on the city who who who is Aster Aught in peas

glives Ah, she know Awe Awee Onus on no Lomatt

A Arice I Have you come Heise Tours Toulson here

Eel de Lire Rief O Sucke S Latt Tepet

Sons Fibu I love the heath Hamas Kharis. I didn't mean to startle you, but I didn't mean to startle you, but I didn't mean. do love to talk Jebediah, even when I'm drinking my chikery. I'm the curator, Hollis Hurlbutt. You got a point, Bob.

I'm just going to guess that that's how it's pronounced. Q-U-I-N-Q-Q-U-I-S from a brand-new single that she released. called more reg you know i think the reason i thought it was english was um isn't there a there's a dessert called breton or breton um parfay breton breton breton parfay breton godly what is um maybe i'm i could just be completely mixing two things up i think i totally um i don't see anything but it could be bright Well, Brighton, of course, is a place, but Breton. Brighton is a place, and Brighton Rock are those yummy, like, candy canes.

Yeah. Huh. Zoe has no idea what I'm thinking of. Breiton, Breton, Breton. Breiton, Briton, Bruton, Bruton, Bruton, Bruton, Bougain, Bouton. Borguton. Quentin, Bucon. Quentin, Quay.

Check it out. Quankwee. Well done. Let's get in here and make a little noise with Bobby. Hopefully educational noise, noise, to help you understand better the world around you. that's what he do and we're going to bring him in and make that happen if I can find

his thing. Science! Bob is hungry and the soup looks good. It surely does. Bob is here. He goes by Bobby so we shouldn't probably call him Bob, but Bob is here. I'll just keep doing it. Bobby Frankenberger

all the way from also South Carolina. I got a lot of South Carolina on the show today. He is here to talk science. Bobby, welcome back to the show. How are you? Thank you. I'm doing I'm doing all right. I'm recovering. I also got sick. Oh, what you did you?

Yeah. Wow. Damn, you were at least not so sick you couldn't raid the other night, but I had a fever. It was terrible. I had a terrible. Yeah, I did not have a fever, but our good friend, Bo, uh, he stepped in and tanked for us, and it was great. He didn't.

So when you tell that guy, he can't just spin around and rack up DPS insanity for the entire raid. That must be hard for him. You know, he must struggle with that, uh. That choice of life. He did really, really well. But yeah, he just, he loves to spin around. He does. That's what he does. That's what warriors love to do. Yeah, they like to spin.

Their warriors are the ballerinas of World Warcraft. Truly. Well, thank goodness for that. Hey, it's good to have you here. We're going to talk some science. We actually discussed this before. And Bobby's like, you know, I'd really like to come on and talk about that again and give you some clarity. And I love when you do that because I guarantee you, we don't leave people with all the information. when Brian and I pontificate about a thing we don't know.

When we come up with the garbage that pops out of our mouths. Yeah. We don't always have it all right. So that's the good thing about Bobby coming in. We were talking about, for those, don't remember, the Cheerios effect thing. Yeah. And now we get some real science on it. So Bobby, tell us all about it.

What's going on? Yeah. Brian actually specifically said, hey, is Bobby coming on Monday? Maybe he can help clarify some of this. And I tell you what, anytime one of you guys suggested. something that I should do it's a lot less work for me well it's good to know you take requests that's the yeah yeah well also it to be honest I love answering questions so um when people are curious about things why wouldn't you why wouldn't you take advantage of that sure sure but to remind people all

what the science article what the news was about was these little uh robots these little things that were being made that were self-propelled using and it was a confusing kind of headline and a confusing lead talking about like taking advantage of the Cheerios effect and some

alcohol and all this kind of stuff right it was fueled by vodka if I remember right or that was the idea that vodka was the fuel yeah yeah it had fuel they call it fuel but and truly I guess it was fueled by vodka but the thing the

I did want to talk about it is because the physics that are involved in what they're doing are super interesting. And probably a lot of it you're very familiar with just in day-to-day life. So it's kind of a cool opportunity to learn about something you see all the time and what physics are involved with it. So what I want to start with is a common science demo that, you know, I do a lot of science demos in schools and science communication stuff and everything so in the world of science demonstrations um there's a common one called soap boats um and uh and the what you do to do these soap boats you can do it at home you cut like a little square piece of i don't know maybe some cardboard out maybe like an inch or too long and you

cut a little notch out of the back of it or you can do this with like a piece of styrofoam too like you know the stuff that meat gets packaged into or something it's just got to be light and that you put it on to the surface of water, it'll float, and then you dip a toothpick or a Q-tip into some dish soap, and you touch the surface of the water behind the piece of cardboard or whatever you're floating, and it will zoom away. Or you touch it inside the little notch that you cut out of the back, makes it work even better. It's like a little motorboat, like, gee. Yeah, it'll like start to zoom around. You can even make it

anyway the point is that that's called the soapboats and the reason that it works is because of a really

cool effect of surface tension and what Brian you were specifically confused about which is the I don't know

how to pronounce it very well either but the Mangione or Mangione effect Oh yeah well I joke that it was called the Mangioni effect I think it's just called

a man I have it written down here I just couldn't find it in my notes but you're right you joked about Mangione Yeah is that how we went Marangoni Okay because we went way down that We went down the path of Chuck Mangione

For like another half an hour Right that's why it's stuck in my head Because I listened to it right before TMS started because I wanted to make sure That there was nothing I was going to miss That you guys were talking about Sure but anyway It's called the Marangoni effect

And it's just named after a guy But the idea is this this is how it works so it's all it's similar to another science demo that sometimes that you may have seen before where you take like a plate or a dish of water and you sprinkle a bunch of pepper on the surface and then you you know touch a little touch of uh like with again with a toothpick or a cue tip some some dish soap into the middle and then all the pepper shoots away from it all the way to the edge of the dish right you notice like you notice it too when you're doing dishes and you you've got like a pan that you cook something in it's all greasy and you put

water in it and you can kind of see that grease that that rainbow color on the on the top and then you just put like one little drop of dishwashing liquid and it in it just like a force feel just like shoots all the grease all out of the way like it's amazing yeah so the reason that that happens is really interesting and it has to do with surface tension so the reason that the reason that the pepper or the little soap boat is sitting on the top of the water is because of surface tension. And what surface tension really is is water molecules are really, I like to, when I'm talking to kids about it, I like to say that water molecules are really sticky. They like to stick together. They are actually like little magnets, Brian. That's why they're sticky. But they stick together all throughout it. They have really strong bonds water molecules do. So that happens on the too. That's why you can fill a glass all the way up and it creates this like little curved dome because they don't want to let go of each other. So for a while, the strength of the water bonds is stronger than gravity over the edge of the cup or something,

right? Right. So that's why a little piece of paper or a water bug or something like that can sit on the surface of water without sinking below it or sometimes you can do it with like a dime, like a coin, which is definitely heavier than water. It should sink. But it'll float or a paper clip or something like that. So what happened, the soap, what it does is it breaks that surface tension. Okay. And then that causes the boat to push forward. Now, the chemistry and the physics behind why it pushes the boat forward is the really

interesting part. So it's actually easier to explain if you think about the pepper demonstration that I talked about, where you have a bunch of pepper and you put a little bit in the middle and they all shoot away from it. the reason that that happens is so you have to imagine at the surface of the water all the water molecules they're all stuck together they want to be stuck together like little magnets and then right where you touch the soap like on a toothpick that surface tension is uh is going to be broken the bonds between those water molecules are sort of broken they're in they're interfered with by the soap um and

that causes the water molecules now to push away from each other because they're no longer bonded with each other. They're being disrupted and they push away from each other. Only right there where the soap touches though. But whereas the water molecules

where the soap touches are now interfered with and they're not as strongly bonded with each other at the surface, they're still strongly bonded with the ones below the surface that are not touching the soap. Okay. So as they move away and this is where you have to excuse me, this is where you have

visualize it as the ones at the surface move away from each other they pool up the ones below them all right to the surface because they're still strongly bonded to those they're right almost like a like a slingshot but like you're basically the top guy's going out but he's he's he's still holding hands with the other ones yeah yeah right so they get pulled up is that what put so sorry let me get my head around it so if you're yeah go when they get pulled up it's those that are creating a pressure point that pushes the stuff away not just that the others are losing their

grip it's that something else moves in that's saying we still have our grip so yeah exactly so the ones below get pulled up and then they touch the soap and they get they push away from each other then pulling up the next ones below them and it creates a sort of

pump of water okay all right and so in that force as the ones below are pulling up continue to push out the ones on the surface which are also repelled from each other and it just creates this little pump that quickly pushes everything away

and and that when you do that at the back of the boat the little thing you're floating on the water it has the same effect it pushes the boat away right if you if you take a glass of water and do the thing where you fill it

beyond the brim right so you've got that that arc or that dome on the top if you were to drop some soap on that dome, would it break the surface tension enough that the water would go over the sides of the glass or would the ones underneath it hold it enough to where it doesn't? No, absolutely it would. So you should do this at home.

It's a really cool thing to do. And do it with a toothpick because that's like the most dramatic effect because you're just doing a tiny bit of... Like you're popping a balloon, but it's really just the soap. Exactly. Fill it up as much as you can to where there's that little dome and do a toothpick of water right in the center and then it'll break that hole. thing and it'll spill over the edge. It makes sense.

If you do your finger, it feels almost like you're cheating, right? Right, because you're really displacing a lot more water with your finger. Yeah, at least it would feel like that. So the reason that that happens with the soap, though, in a glass of water with that little dome is also because

all that soap that's in there, it's a very thin layer, but it spreads out over the surface of the water and eventually completely saturates the surface of the water. Right. To where the water just has no surface tension anymore or very much reduced surface tension. So this thing

needs to be a not a perpetual motor but to do the job that this experiment was trying to prove it needs to have keep that contained within the quote unquote robot so that it's not just spreading out and making the water

untenable because it's all because now the surface area is all soap right or vodka or whatever it is. That's an awesome question and that's the genius of what they're doing is because soap isn't the only thing that does this. Alcohol also does it. And there's another experiment you can do that's similar to the soapboats called cocktail boats and where you just use alcohol instead, like vodka.

Waste good vodka on a science experiment. Or you can use ethanol. If you happen to have ethanol lying around. My bottle of ethanol that I keep under this thing, sure, yeah. So it also breaks the surface tension just like the soap. But the great thing about the alcohol is that it evaporates very quickly so it doesn't stay and much more quickly than the water so it like you were you were very poignantly um thinking scott that well wouldn't these little robots wouldn't it just you know cover the entire surface of the water like the soap i described well the the alcohol doesn't it it evaporates and so you it's constantly going away oh that's interesting

and it's always it's never going to sink it's not heavy you It's not like it's going to go to the bottom. That's interesting. So by using something with evaporative properties, you could, in theory, have it go in perpetuity as long as you had a way to fuel it all the time or whatever. Yeah, and that's why they made these little plastic pucks and made them hollow and put ethanol inside of them

and created a way for it to slowly come out of the back. And they could do that. Now, that's not the only effect, though. That's just the Marengoni effect, right? Right. Right. We also, they're combining it with the Cheerios effect. That's the Cheerios part. The Cheerios effect is also really cool. It doesn't have to do with surface tension. It has to do with buoyancy and another effect called a meniscus effect. You know what a meniscus is? You know what a meniscus is? You know what a meniscus is? You don't want to do it. but the meniscus is when you pour water into a glass it climbs up the side of the glass right

you've seen that before oh yes right we're like a little curve yes right right oh that's called the meniscus effect okay yeah it's when water is attracted to the sides of the container more strongly than the molecules are attracted to each other right then it'll create this little meniscus if you're ever in a chemistry lab

They, you learn all about how you have to, you know, know, know about the meniscus effect because you have to read the level of the water below the meniscus, not on the meniscus, because it climbs up. It'll give you a improper reading, right? Yeah, so here's like, to give an example, let's say you use something maybe a little thick, not like thick and liquid for Brian, but like something a little thicker than water, you would have this climb up effect probably even more pronounced. And if you're trying to do exact measurements, that's probably really hard because this thing's like going, well, I'm climbing up to two or three digits or units or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So you just have to, in a chemistry lab, you just have to be aware of it. Yeah. And so this happens. This is also cartilage in the knee and the elbow and the wrist and stuff. That's right. I bet they can. I bet the corn meniscus.

Yeah. I bet the root of the reason they were, both of these things were named. that is similar if you look into the etymology yeah could be a guy named larry p meniscus though it could be that could be you came up with both yeah yeah never know um so so this happens in a bowl also when you have milk uh the milk um climbs up there's a meniscus on the side of the milk now here's a cool thing um gross going back to buoyance going to buoyancy for a second so objects that are less dense than water will float because they're buoyant um just like a chiro it's buoyant it weighs less than water, it's less dense than water.

And so what that means is that, and this is important to understand for this effect, what that means is that the force of the water or the milk underneath it is pushing up on it harder than gravity is pulling it down, all right? Or that any of the forces coming from above it, like atmospheric forces and everything. So the force of the water is pushing up on it, and that's keeping it afloat. The reason that this is important is because if you place a Chirio in the bowl, because it's being pushed up by the milk, it's always going to try to find the highest level of milk. So as it gets close to the edge of the bowl, the highest level is at the top

of that meniscus. So it gets, yeah, it's slowly, but still eventually gets moves its way towards that meniscus. Right. Because it wants to be at the highest point. Now, unless you do that thing where you fill the glass to the top and then it'll rise right to the center and float right there in the center of that little dome. Exactly, exactly. That's a really cool point

and that's another thing you can do at home. It won't. It'll stay in the center if you're able to make that dome by filling a glass of water exactly right because it's trying to find the highest point. Now the cool thing is

a Chirio itself also has a meniscus effect. The milk tries to climb up the side of the chirio. So that's exactly why when you put multiple Cheerios together they will clump together is because again they're trying to climb up to the highest

point right right so they're they're like even going as granular as going up to the side like the highest point on one chirio is caused by that meniscus and the other cheer is like oh I want to get to the highest point on that charyone connects up to it like

and they they link together yeah wild yep so so when you combine these effects together the Cheerios effect and also the the soap boat or the

the Merring Mountain now I can't even anymore Marangoni effect the Mary Mountain effect got it yeah when you put those together you can these scientists

figured well we can combine these effects when we put the discs in the water together these plastic discs they'll act like Cheerios and they'll clump together to create like a superstructure right and then we can counter that

force by having them spit out a little ethanol and letting the marangoni effect take over and they will dissipate they'll spread apart they'll go to different in different directions they'll do the things that they're going to do right right and then once that once you stop that and the ethanol evaporates they'll start to clump together again and they figure that they can maybe use this fact to kind of find a way to control how they move and then you know come together and spread apart and have various kinds of applications for different things. Let's say there's an oil spill or something.

Is that what they're thinking? Like they could drop these little ethanol bots all around the oil spill and as the ethanol dissolves and they re-cluster back together, they'll kind of contain that oil on the surface of the water? Yeah, possibly because I know

that if you do another thing, I think that this Cheerio's effect actually reverses itself when the surface tension is broken so they will cluster in a different way so I think that that's what they're thinking is they can use tiny things like this to maybe surround or control

things like oil which breaks surface tension at the surface of water I don't know exactly the applications and these scientists probably don't either because they're just in a lab thinking what cool thing can I do with robots but uh and they also these science things they have to always in their in their funding applications have to try to justify why they're doing this so um yeah who knows if it'll actually come to anything but theoretically like you like you could see it possibly leading

to um a way some never before thought of way to control um small uh robots on the surface of water So we have a way they can finally, you know, get that floating garbage island, push it towards the coast of some countries so that we could deal with it instead of it. It just has some little floating ethanol robots. It seems like the trick with a lot of this sort of stuff is scale, right? Yeah. You want to make this larger than just like a little boat in a dish. Obviously, the physics of it all change, not change, but make it more challenging to do a larger scale thing. And you've got.

waves and currents and things like that that also come into play yeah and that'll change all of this right like all this is being done in still water yeah yeah it's interesting though I like it I think you know maybe our future is a bunch

of cheerio shit who knows Bobby as always super fun stuff to discuss and more of it can be found on your awesome podcast called all around science tell people where they can get it and what you're talking about these days on there. All around science.

You can get it just where you get podcasts. Look for all around science. And we're continuing to talk about, I think I mentioned last time I was on, we were talking about the Drake equation to look for, think about how likely is it that will ever be catch a communication

from an intelligent civilization somewhere else in the universe and so we're continuing to talk about that and going into the more squishier parts less firm parts of the equation and the harder to nail down and more philosophical parts of the equation that

have to do with you know how long do civilizations that are intelligent civilizations actually last how likely are they to ever have this kind of technology stuff like that sure that's interesting Interesting. Listen to that and get more. Also, don't forget to check out the monthly edition of the Instance 2.0 with me and Bobby, where we talk all things, World of Warcraft. There's a big content drop coming soon. We will likely have a show. Tomorrow. Is it tomorrow? Is it the 10th?

Sounds like something we should know. I feel like I should know that too. I really should know that. I have the calendar or the stupid timeline somewhere. Anyway, we'll do a show after that. We've got our fill from what's coming with that patch and we have a lot to talk about there. So do check that out. That's over at frogpants.com slash the instance, or just instance, rather. Bobby, as always, the pleasure is ours, and we hope you have nothing but fantastic times ahead. All right. Thanks. It's December 17th. I just looked it up. Oh, so we have a little ways to go.

A week. All right. A week from tomorrow. Excellent. Bobby, stay out of trouble. We'll see you next time by now. All righty. Let's see here what we got here.

It's cool. It's very cool. Yeah, I like that stuff a lot. Reminds me a science class, you know? Yep. watching the teacher put weird shit in a bottle and blowing our minds. You can put just about anything in a leak with nitrogen. Yep, it's pretty good stuff.

All right, a couple tiny things here to end us out. We've made some rumblings about this before, but to make it more official, the week of Christmas, there is no TMSs that entire week. Christmas, no TMS, okay? No TMS Christmas. That's right. So the 23rd through the 6th or, yeah, 27th you're right those are your days to know that we are not here um that doesn't mean

other stuff won't be happening there's some other shows happening and that kind of stuff there's still be at coverville the second half of the countdown will be that week and yeah and all that's there's still a core that week probably a monday show that week lots of other stuff we need time off too folks come on now yeah we do this once a year and uh this is the time of year we do it so uh just know that moving forward also the 31st we'll have off the following week but the rest of those days 31st will be a play date. Oh, right. Yeah, shit.

We're doing a play date. I keep forgetting. We talked about this with Travis, and I forgot again. We did. Anyway, that'll be the following week. We'll know when we get there. But I just want to let you guys know what was up there. Kevin, aka I-Corps, wrote in and said the following.

I thought it was an important note to leave us with here. Hey, Superior and Boat. You mentioned Lake Inferior yesterday on the TMS pre-show. There is no proof that this underground lake really exists, and it really is just an urban legend. The story was started in the night, or the 1600s by the 1600s. Wow.

By one person who claimed they found the opening to it, which they called quote, Lake of Hell or Lake De Infer in French. Lock them fur. Let them fell. The name changed to Lake inferior over time because they sound familiar. Most scientists say that such an underground lake

is very unlikely to exist. Sorry to burst your bubble. Glove the show joe. someone should warn Sarah that you're about to glubber yeah please please uh talk to her before you just glove the show yeah you can't just do that um anyway so i core that's interesting i did a little more digging around and and uh sure enough it sounds like it might just be straight up urban legend there's some who claim it's there it sounds bunk yeah there are people to claim it's there doesn't exist doesn't we have no proof of it so it's all good anyway thanks

yeah thank you kevin for keeping us uh keeping us real all right yeah for sure uh that'll do it for today's show there is a Monday show a little later today 12 noon tune in for that find out how Carter did with her uh she got one of those big ice tubs oh cool where you go outside like a polar bear challenge thing and get into that and she did it last night and she has a report nice nice by the way did you ever try the um we talked about this because of Jaws 2 they'd said that uh because when they were filming Jaws 2 it was during the winter months and they did want people's breath showing so they had them suck on ice cubes to keep them from having

you know misty breath breathing fog not yet and we were going to try it when it got cold it's cold here today yeah it's like 25 today I should be able to do it right I think oh my gosh why does my watch think I'm talking to it yeah we'll

we'll definitely give that a shot because I'm skeptical of how that yeah I have too yeah but it might work who knows yeah Bobby's right the heat comes from your lungs not just the air sitting in your mouth. I don't think there's enough time for your mouth to cool it down before it comes out. Yeah, I think that's, and

that was kind of what we had said on the show, but we'll test it. It's fun to test, fun to have an experiment. But yeah, your lungs are where the hot, misty air is coming from, baby. Exactly. Yeah. If you just have what air is in your mouth around the ice cube, you just blow that out without pulling

from your lungs. Well, sure, but who breathes, who breathes like that. Only for that scene. And cut. Oh, I can breathe again. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know if I believe it. Anyway, everything else you can find at frogpants.com slash TMS. We'll have a show tomorrow, of course, and we look forward to seeing you all then.

Brian, let's have a song. What are you got? BioCal, yay, bio cow wrote in. Preston says, somebody called the fire department because I'm the 5-0. Oh, damn. Yeah. Big one. You know what?

Let's play her now. Happy birthday. Get it out of the way early. All right. He says, my birthday is. December 8th, and I'm turning 50 years medium, hoping to get a custom pick song from the covermaster himself.

Thanks both for all you do. Love the show. Nice. So Preston also told me about some of the bands that he likes. For example, Information Society, Trio, dance hall crashers, spin doctors, cake, Beastie Boys, Green Day.

My God, I love all those bands. The fact that there's somebody out there that loves both trio and the dance hall crashers, A little ska punk band that lasted three albums and a German, bizarre German band that's most notable for doing a song they used for a Volkswagen ad. Anyway. Preston has range, is what we're saying.

He does have range, exactly. But I went with your first choice, Information Society. They released a really cool album in 2016. I helped fund it, thanks to Indie Go-Go. Oh, I should talk about, well, I'll talk about it tomorrow. But I helped fund it. It's called Orders of Magnitude. and on that album, it's all covers.

They cover David Bowie's heroes. That's you're going to hear right now. Here is Information Society and Heroes. Thank you. I, I will be king And you You will be queen Of nothing

We'll drive them away We can be there just for one day we can be heroes just for one day I wish we could swim Like the dolphins Like dolphins can swim

Well nothing Nothing can keep us together We can beat them forever and ever Or we can be here Oh Just for one day I

I can remember Standing By the wall shot above our heads and we kiss as though nothing could form and the shame was on the other side

but we can beat them forever and ever That we can be heroes Just for one day What's you say We can be heroes We can be heroes We can be heroes

Those are made for frog. We can be here in love. Those pants are made for froggin. You know what I mean? I actually don't. Frogpants.com. I was a little drunk. Plus, I was horny.