The Morning Stream - TMS 2749: Vocal Deep Fry

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

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Kia Dark Soul. Okay, now make a mojoke. Old man Ibbets hard candy. Brian's nice rack of comics. Non-fungible banana. Stephanie likes it. I'm glad it's the small can. Greedflation.

Living large off pasta money. That new game smell with Dan and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. The first improvement of toilet paper is we know it since the 1880s. Hey, what's going on on this side? The morning stream. We're not toys. We're action figures. Hello, I'm muted. Good morning, everybody. You mute yourself when you have to cough, see, and then I forgot to unmute it. Hey, you got to you. Don't forget to unmute you. Like a dumbass. Uh, hey, everybody, welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream. And the date is today, sorry, Tuesday, December 10th, 2024. My switch is being weird. I'm Scott, and that's Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi. Hello. It's me. I'm the problem. It's me.

That's much darker without the music. Everybody agrees. The music really really cheers up the lyrics. It really does. Yeah. It really brightens it up. Who knew? Who knew that you take the music, the bouncy, jangly music behind Taylor Swift's lyrics and take him out and it's all of a sudden a whole darker, sadder thing. Yeah. She's like, I don't know. She's like a dark soul. I can't wait to use that Eventually it is happening for a film sec intro

It's gonna be that or shake it off Or you know maybe maybe I make January what do we have we have four movies in January Maybe I make all four of them Taylor Swift songs Is a challenge to myself You've done most all other musical divas It feels like you've done a lot of them anyway I haven't done Adele

That's true you haven't done Adele but you did like You've done Brittany You've done Madonna Brittany? I don't think I've done Brittany. Didn't you do? Not poison. What is it called? Toxic. Yeah. Poison. No, I don't think I've done toxic. I thought you did.

No, I don't think. No, that's one that I'm saving for some special because that is the greatest Britney Spears song of all time. It's a pretty good song. Yeah. I'll give her that. I mean, you name one better. It's science. Oops. I hit it again or however it goes. No. You just merged. You just merged her two, first two hits into one song.

Oops. hit me again one more time she keeps putting up videos of herself looking like she's losing her mind I hope she's all right yeah it's like here's a video of me running with scissors

in the house yeah just staring at the camera weird and just looking like I know I know I hope she's fine you know like I hope so too but boy yeah maybe maybe

maybe somebody i'm not saying the conservatorship was a good thing but maybe brittany needs like a live-in friend yeah yeah conservatorship forget it but like exactly somebody to just be there and go hey brittany put that bottle down or stop putting that needle in your arm i'm not saying she's doing those things i'm just saying you're into your first folks you know brittany doing drugs brittany doing heroin yeah i don't know if she's really doing any of those things but just somebody around to just be your friend and help you out yes Like your sister Luchana Spears

Jamie Lynn Spears Not Luchana Spears Luchana Spears I mean she seems nice Have her help out The great Mexican wrestler Luchana Spears That's right

They took their mask off And they are no more Anyway I know you watch some Because we talked about it But that that That bizarre Simpsons

Monday Night football game. So weird, dude. So pretty weird. It's a weird thing because it's such a mixed bag because I'm part of it. So Brian, just gives some of context here. Last night, Brian sends me text and say, hey, are you watching this

Simpsons Bengals game thing they're doing over on ESPN on Disney Plus? And this is the same tech they used when they did the... What was the one before? The Toy Story. The Toy Story one was the... Oh, right. Yeah. So they're basically doing body tracking.

of the players in real time and then translating that to these simpler, I'll say, not simple, but simpler 3D models, in this case, Simpsons-based models doing stuff. So they'd swap the quarterback out for Bart or Lisa or whatever. So I tuned in as soon as Brian said it, because I was really curious, because I didn't know about it. And it is simultaneously compelling and kind of well done, right? Yeah, yeah. And at the same time, some of the cringiest shit I've ever seen in my life. and the cringe usually comes from the commentators who sound like pro level they probably are these like professional commentators like when they did somebody come to them at the office and go all right um you guys are on cbs this weekend uh you guys you're going to be doing the big NFL weekend thing over here at fox uh oh sorry you drew the short straws guys you're doing the weird simpson's shit on disney plus like it just feels like they got the weird they get the weird end of the stick like they right exactly Well, if you want Christmas off, you're going to need to do the, you need to do the Simpsons game. Yeah, that's a great way of putting it.

If you want these benefits, we've been promising you, better go do your duty, right? And it feels like they're sitting there going, you can tell they're professional commentators. They're good at what they do. This woman and these two guys, they just are, they sound like any ones you've ever heard on anything else. And they do a great job of calling the plays and all this stuff. But they have to keep inserting things like he'll go, oh my gosh. the Bengals have pushed it into this and that and the other thing, what would principal Chalmers think of all that?

Like, they have to like... He really embiggined that play with his use of the... Yeah. Yeah, they just have to keep putting these references in. It's almost like someone's in their ear saying, all right, make a mo joke. Right. But it's so they're quick to do it.

So it's not like, you know, I joke that they have a list in front of them that they have to insert these Simpsons references. But it was like when, When Ralph Wiggum, I gave you a gift, by the way, of how weird this was for folks haven't seen it. That sounds great. I gave you, or when Ralph Wiggum caught a touchdown in the end zone, one of the commentators said, he really choose, choose, choose, choose to make that player.

So there was some really weird way. Oh, like, chew, chew, choose me. You chew, chew, choose me. Yeah, he really, wow. He really decided to chew, choose his way into the end zone or something like that. It was so hand-handed. So the end result looks like proper video game, like a play happened here in a Madden mod or something,

as you're seeing in this gift. But what is crazy is that exactly mimicked the play that happened in the game. And wait, did Bart throw that? Okay, Bart threw it. I thought Homer threw it. And then Homer somehow was also chasing her. So they would have to remember, they would have to go, they'd have to alternate between the actual name of a quarterback or a receiver

and then say and Lisa's got it who says girls can't play football you know that kind of thing exactly yeah and then in the middle of the thing there was a there was a thing where Marge is in the audience with a bunch of just no-name Simpsons characters and for some reason groundskeeper Willie is behind her and can't see through her hair so he starts to drill it out with some tool he brought like it's just an odd thing the word part yeah go ahead go ahead as you said they definitely got hank azaria

like hank azaria was definitely doing some of those live voices there like uh oh wow we're sitting over here on the sidelines and no no no no no no yeah but then it was like um the person doing ralph wiggum is that is that one of the actors who left uh no ralph is from

ralph ralph is uh bart's voice uh wait oh it is cartwright okay i think it is nancy cartwright doing that voice i think I think, not sure. The one that left, did Mill, the one that just retired was Millhouse. Yeah. And one of the bullies with the long hair. Okay.

Yeah. So they weren't there. But I think they got Cartwright to do some of it. And I think they got, like you said, Hank Azari definitely was doing some. But then they had some real fakery shit going on. Yeah. The Homer, the Homer was definitely not Castaneta.

Kestaneta. Yeah. Yeah. The March stuff, I think, was pre-recorded, but I'm pretty sure that was. uh, Kavner. Yeah. Yeah, I think that may have been she, she sounds like in recent episodes, her voice, her voice is shot, dude. It's shot. Really? Oh, it's so bad. I mean, it's, she has to do so much grumbly. Like it, you know, that, that, that vocal fry to the max,

vocal, vocal, a deep fry. Yeah. Is what she does. That cannot be good on your vocal cords constantly day and day out. Yeah, for 35 years or however long the show is now. Plus, you know, everybody ages your voice changes and yeah and like Hank Hank is not Hank his area Harry Shearer's voice is very weird now if you if you go back to back like go listen to like a season eight episode and then

immediately hear his Kent Brockman from like a two weeks ago it's it's very different really not in a bad way you just tell it's like Billy West on Futurama you just age yeah quick note here Kim just brought this to me so it reminded me oh this just did look at this you got this just handed to me

for real Wow, I do that a lot, but this time I'm not faking it. You're not faking it. You can actually say, yeah. I got this thing from FISGIG, who I'm not 100% sure who FISGIG is if I saw his face. But he sent this thing that says, I cannot attend TMS Vegas 2025 due to other vacation plans, but wanted to still be a part of the fun somehow. Figured gifting my favorite board game for the cause would let others have a great time.

He sent this, and I'm going to bring it with. I've never played this. uh maybe you have betrayal at house on the hill have you played this oh i have not but um but that is a classic like that is uh that's a dan patrice uh uh like favorite is it all right yeah i'll talk to him about it yeah something vaguely familiar about it maybe he's talked about it or maybe there's versions of betrayal that aren't like a haunted one i don't know kind of how clank has 10 different versions of clank or whatever. Yes, right, right, yeah.

Or even code names, but. This might be updated. Even, Stephanie says, even I like it. Oh, hello. Stephanie, what if it was in app form? I was going to say, it's a physical game. Stephanie likes the physical board games, right? Yeah. I love that the whole Stephanie meme for the entire audience is just how much she hates apps.

I love it. Yes. Anyway, I'm bringing this. Betrayal at House on the Hill. I'll bring it for our Tuesday games. And it'll be great. Anyway, thanks to FisGig for that. And thank you, Kim, for reminding me.

Nice. To thank everybody for it. All right, couple things. I learned something about a thing you like. Ooh, okay. You like atomic fireballs. You have some sometimes. I do.

I saw that you were going to be talking about it, so I have one handy. I mean, I have a... A little bowl of them, right? I have a jar. Ah, right. You know, this is my Cleveland Plain dealer, a jar of... You're like the Ibit Five and Dime. You got one of those on the county.

it's right a little yeah but they're individually wrapped hard candies so unlike the five and dime when you pull one out it's not one big cluster of 25 pieces of candy all stuck together but these i like these are good like these the the trick is to just uh savor them and not crunch them and i say all that carefully worded so that i'm not using phrases like suck on it don't bite it yeah so that stuff doesn't get taken out of context yeah damn it i did it Suck it, don't bite it. Yeah, remember those words. Yeah. So that, also at your cool 5 and 9, my picture, a nice rack of comics by the checkout. Oh, it's one of those, hey kids, comics. It's one of those racks, the spinny racks. Yeah, you turn it around.

You're like, ooh, the latest Thor is here. But why is this old Batman still here? That's six months ago. Exactly. The ears, the corners kind of bent down a little bit because they've been hanging down in the rack a little bit. I'd come to this store all the time. I would be in there. I'd get some fireballs, a Coke, and a comic.

That's what I would do. Right. And if you need a condom, they're behind me on the shelf. You just have to ask for them. Yep. They're in my back pocket. You have a reach in there and grab them. Not doing that. Not doing that. Anyway, so I learned this thing about atomic fireballs. I don't even know why this came up. But I was, what was it? I was watching something. And some kid puts one in his mouth in a movie or show or something. And I went, oh, those things Brian likes. And then I went, I don't even know how you make those. And then I went down this like, well, I got to go do some prep for the show.

I'm going to go look about, I'm going to learn. learn how these are made. And this is crazy. So a couple of quick facts about atomic fireballs. Okay. Created in 1954. That's how old they are. Wow.

Sounds like a 50s candy, doesn't it? 100%. It does. Yeah, atomic fireballs. Sure. Like, stop drop and roll. We've got atomic fireballs on sale for a penny each. Exactly.

And it was all about aliens and spaceships. And so the word atomic and the atomic age and an atom bomb and all that stuff fit really well. So it makes sense to me. when it happened, it was created by a guy named Nello Ferreira. Nello. Is there candy? Yeah. Like, isn't there?

Oh, no, I'm thinking of Ferreiro is the candy company. Oh, there is a, you're right. There's a Ferreira. Yeah, but unrelated, probably. I think so. They're like the Harabo family. No, I don't know. Anyway, so he worked at a company.

It was a family-owned company called the Ferreira Pan Candy Company. and it was known for bold cinnamon spices and these other kind of things and the way that they made candy was a pan-fried technique so like flat stuff suckers this sort of thing and they would actually cook them

a lot like you would picture cooking an egg or something except it was a bigger you know bigger processes bigger flat areas but you would you would kind of pan fry it not fry but pan cook everything and because of

he thought the combo here would be take these cinnamon spice thing that they were already famous for with a lot of their confectionery stuff add that to a somehow figure out how to get it in a ball that kids would just go nuts and buy these like crazy and they did and they were like two cents a piece in a big jar like you've got and you just your big jar yeah grab a bunch or whatever back then probably not individually wrapped like the kids reach in they're touching 12 atomic fireballs to get the one they want that's right and they were all walking going home with polio but they didn't care we liked it it was good uh it was so here's what they did um it is crafted using hot pan

method which is what they referred to with this other candy and then they would roll it around they get it in a ball and they would roll it around until that hard shell stayed hard on the outside and the way that it was it's not a coating of another coating of like uh shell candy on top of whatever's inside it's actually the seared outside of the same candy that makes that outer shell and it changes the color later they would add some color but back then it would be it was a little more swirly and uneven but you would kind of create that that color from the heat and they say that the same original recipe that they use then is still in use today just in a mass production way but it's the exact same process so brian there is some cool history there is some really

cool history of the Atomic Fireball. Yeah. Well, when I enjoy one later today, when I'm neglecting other work and working further on my app, then I will enjoy, I will think about the seared outside of atomic fireball. It also made me think that I'm how surprised I am that nobody sent us the Coca-Cola Oreos to try on the show when those were. Oh, yeah, no kidding. Because I have the Oreo Coca-Cola.

Yeah, how is that? Is that bad? Is that good? Is that terrible? Like, I don't know what to think about it. it's bad i mean chocolate coke has always been a thing like back when back when soda fountains back you know when i had my five and dime and i was selling the penny candy and the rack of comics yeah um in addition to a cherry coke which was you got a coke and they just

squirted some cherry into it you think you could also do a chocolate coke and um didn't know that was everything wild yeah and they're there uh it's good but it's it's different for sure yeah um i mean Does it, does it, these are zeros? It tastes like an Oreo. Like it, yeah, there's zero. And the good thing about it is it comes in those teeny cans. So you're not making a, you're not making a commitment to a big can. Okay, good.

So it's a little, I would try it. It just sounds so weird. It sounds like such a strange thing. And some people hear it and go, ooh, chocolate and Coke, and I hear it go, yeah. Doesn't sound right. Yeah, I mean, I like it better than the spiced Coke zeros. Yeah, I don't like those. Those are bad.

But, uh, but I'm glad. it's the small can because I feel like a full can or a bottle would be definitely be too much. Yeah. Spice Coke, bad idea. They made a mistake. It's terrible. Yeah. Real bad. Wow. Chuck, not a fan. He says the Coke Oreos and the

Oreo Cokes are horrible. Coke Oreos is what I'm curious about because how do you have a thing flavored like Coca-Cola in a cookie form? It just doesn't seem right. That's like me spending months trying to find carbonated meat you know

I'm never gonna find the right combo there to make it work and I don't think this is it just feels like a mistake but yeah we would try them on the show is what I'm saying and nobody usually somebody's on that we didn't have anybody to do it it used to be Mary Mary Heisenberg uh was our oh yeah what happened to Heisenberg I don't know or Heidelberg oh yeah Heisenberg she would have Jesse finally got away right exactly science uh oops um yeah I a mary if you're out there how you doing we hope you're well and b somebody if you can get your hands i think they're gone now right there was a limited run yeah i think so i think ever since you said

you're off the shug people have not that have stopped sending us shug treats to yeah because the way they work now i can taste them or test them but i have to give the rest to somebody else i can't eat them yeah yeah you know i can take a bite or one but that's about it's got a nick you nick Nick Kinnock has to fulfill his duties of eating everything that people send to us, sometimes before you get a chance to. Yep. That's right. He does that.

Yeah. I'm surprised this board game didn't get played before I got to show it. No kidding. By the way, Monica, it's, no, there's actually a Coca-Cola spiced. And it's not the cranberry one. It's like a weird. It's so bad. A weird spiced flavor.

Yeah, that one I'm not a fan of. It was supposed to be like a bite to it or like a. Yeah, like a, like a, like a. cinnamony kind of thing to it i don't know it's a horrible failure it was really bad yeah they're also their three coke 3 000 or whatever was called also bad oh really i don't think i ever had the coke three thousand it was like some kind of weird futurey thing i still have a couple bottles in the garage i cannot bring myself to drink them i freaking hate yeah they're gross why choose a sleep number smartbed can i make my site softer can i make my site firmer can we sleep cooler sleep cooler sleep number does that

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yeah you're telling it's a hard combo to find I've never seen it or else I'd buy it we bought a as soon as we saw an eight pack or whatever those are now we grabbed it and I haven't seen one since so I'm slowly going through it but they're great because you're like I don't want to overdo the caffeine but I like the Coke and I need the zero

so let's have a fridge full of those but they're just rare it's a rare it's a rare beast I like those though they're good they do taste different though so I didn't ever, I've always been to the opinion that Coke, or the, the caffeine doesn't bring a flavor to anything, but it absolutely does. It does. You can definitely tell the difference. I can definitely see why you tell the difference.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. You can get caffeine-free Coke Zero fridge pack bundle, 12 fluid ounce two pack on Amazon. All right. It's before Christmas. But how many is it? I know it's 12 ounce cans, but how many cans is it? Was it like a eight pack or a top?

12, something like that. Looks like it's two 12 packs. Oh, Lord. Okay. So 24 cans for $32. So, yeah, it's not bad. It's not terrible. I mean, $1.50 each.

If I go to, yeah, I think that's about right. When I go to Smith's, man, pre-pandemic, I could get a whole sleeve of these things for, like, a 12-pack for, like, $5. Now I go there, same exact store, $8.50 to $9. Per sleeve. It's just not right. What are you doing, Coke? I know that you. I promise you this.

Their ingredients or process or whatever, nothing went up. That was 100% them going, we can do it, so let's do it. Right, right. Totally, totally is. I hate it. Greedflation, I hate it. Hate it. It's funny, it's like even showing me the front of the box.

Is it 12, 12 ounce cans? I think those are usually. That's pretty standard, isn't it? It is. I could be wrong on that, though. I'm not sure what ours are. Yeah, it's definitely not a six-pack. I was just wondering if it was like 224-pack, so it would be great.

What a great deal that would be. I also found Tropical 7-Up Zeros. It is 12, yes. Tropical 7-Up zeros, very good, very good, yeah. That does sound good. Recommend it. It's a refreshing lunchtime beverage. Nice.

You might say. Nice. Quick follow-up on the sauce, the pasta that keeps the sauce intact more. Yeah, yeah. This is interesting. Yeah, we got word from within your state. This is from Luke from Boulder. We hear it from all the time.

Luke says about the newly created pasta. The pasta was created in service and by a podcast. I got all kinds of, I got stuff to say after this because why are we not making up a food? You know what I mean? We should. Well, like the doggarito, Scott, needs to become the, you know, needs to become a thing. That's right? The Harmel Doggerino or something.

Yeah, we need a new standard that everybody buys, right? Right, right. It says, I'm usually not one for the radio lab style of podcasts. I actually am. so I'm looking forward to this. Yeah, me too. He says, but the story here is very interesting

and my wife and I use the casketele. Is that how you say it? Cascatelli? Cascatelli pasta all the time, says Luke, I didn't know it was created as an experiment on a show. I didn't either, but that's great. Yeah, he didn't, the problem is he didn't give me... He didn't say, let's see,

Dan Pashman, the American Food podcaster, Dan Pashman, collaboration with the New York pasta company, Scolini. Scolini. Storlini, there's an F after the S, but I don't think it's pronounced. Sofoglini. Oh, yeah, look at that. Sporkful.

There it is, the Sporkful podcast. Sporkful. Um, wow. That's a big deal. He doesn't even have his own Wikipedia page, but he invented a pasta? Good Lord. Yeah. Yeah, no kidding.

It's funny. He does it. And there's not even a podcast or a page for the Sporkful podcast. They invented a pasta. these guys should absolutely have a he should absolutely have his own Wikipedia page come on now okay here's a website uh wait the latest show was the 2020 and that can't be right oh well he's living off that pasta money i was gonna say yeah living large off pasta now who needs podcasting when you made a new pasta he's in pasta casting now that's what he does now i pasta casting yeah he's a pasta fader

I'm glad he is. Pasta's you love. You trust. Dan Pashman has quite the unit. All right. Well, anyway, that's all she wrote for some pre-news talk, but now we have the news, and we have to talk about us. So here we go. Time for the news.

Brought to you by. Brought to you by Herodotus. I'm sure I pronounced that wrong. Herodotus. I'm sure that's right. wrong too. Herodotus. Herodotus, I think. Herodotus? I think so. I'm not sure. Now that you

say it. A Dorian born who fled from Slanders brand and made in Thuria his new native land. Yep, there you go. Your video game thing, right? It's a scout video game. I wish it was. No. So while I was looking at your fireball thing, I came across this whole thing about this herodotus

guy who was an ancient born in Persia but then spent most of his time in Greece. I don't trying to remember the exact origin. Anyway, he's considered one of the forefathers of any kind of history, like keeping history. We're talking like 340 BC or something. He is history's historian, or he is the...

Yeah, and everybody thought he was making up shit, but now modern historians, modern historians think he was actually accurate in his stuff. Yeah, yeah, people of his time that were like, yeah, and this isn't happening. You're lying or whatever. It was cool. So I just thought, I'll just slip that guy in here. It's a weird thing to put in news, but whatever. All right. out. Traffic chaos. I had another story

like this yesterday. Traffic chaos caused by 30,000 pounds of melted chocolate on the Bay Area Highway. Wow. Ooh. Yeah. I mean, if you were, if you were... Is it dark chocolate? Do we know? Did you say milk chocolate? I don't know. Do they say here? It just says melted.

Melted chocolate. I mean, I guess milk melts at a lower temp. So maybe... Yeah. It says, a big rig carrying chocolate in the East Bay caught on fire Monday morning, or sorry, Friday morning, I don't always head Monday, causing hours of traffic chaos during the busy commute hours. The fire happened around 618 a.m. on westbound interstate 580 near Giant Line Road.

Oh, Grant line, sorry, Grant. Oh, I'm waiting for the giant line road. Like they looked at a map and said, what should we call this giant line? How about Giant Line Road? Yeah, just Giant Line Road. And no one will ever get lost. It's right there. Big Giant Line. Just follow it.

Tyler Hahn, a spokesperson for the California Highway Patrol, told S.F. Gate. that's chips another chips story the blaze happened because of a mechanical issue which first set the truck on brakes on fire just like yesterday's weird thing with the chickpeas the blaze then spread to the tires

and the rest of the truck approximately 30,000 to 40,000 pounds of chocolate were in the trailer and nearly all of it appeared to melt he said a photo posted on Chip's X account showed loads of chocolate oozing out of the truck he got to look at this image here yeah oh man yeah look at that Ooh, I would not want to go taste it, you know?

Here, chat. Wow, that we get, because I live right by the mountains. And when you come down I-70 into, from the mountains into Denver, it's a steep grade. And there's a lot of signs up there telling trucks to slow down, drop to a lower gear, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's more serious than blah, blah, blah. Yeah. We're going to blah, blah, blah, blah. But we get it.

We understand. But there are, there's even signs once you get. get further, like closer to Arvada, that say, you're not done yet. The equivalent of you're not done yet. There's still more hill. Don't get out of your lower gear just yet. But drivers will ignore that, and they will ride their brakes, and they'll smoke and they'll catch on fire.

And there's a stretch of highway by kind of the closest part of I-70 to our house that frequently has trucks on the side that look a little bit like this. sometimes they're they're you know they're um they're not just the shell of the truck or like just the frame of the truck yeah yeah you kind of get the side is all burnt out or the back is open and it's like all burnt out and stuff coming out of it yeah but uh yeah people come on be careful be attention of those signs yeah truckers who's our truck guy he always calls in i forgot his name yeah yeah we have a truck guy well i know a truck guy you know what we'd love some to hear from him or anyone like him who can tell us I'm sure there's some, like, rules you have to follow, but also probably some just wisdom about what to do and where and don't do this and don't do that or whatever. Because it just seems like if you know what your payload is

and you know what declines are going to do to your brakes, I don't know. I just feels like maybe you'd know better, but maybe not. I assume, and this, you know, that because this is such a major problem with trucks and brakes, or just not problem, but something to be aware of, that you've got to have some sort of, like alert on your dashboard, hey, your brakes are getting really hot, you know, drop down

to a lower gear or something like that. But, yeah, the trucks themselves, I think, are more technologically advanced anyway now with sensors and stuff. Yeah. It's not just some old, you know, like the 70s. These aren't 70s trucks. I hope not. Anyway.

What about technology? Exactly. Anyway, I hope the local wildlife enjoy the smell of chocolate for the next six years and not knowing where to get it. Because once that gets into the grass and the dirt, you're not getting rid of that smell. Nope. It's like going to McDonald's and coming home. I did that the other day.

I don't remember what we did. Oh, we just got ice cream cones. But I came home and I smelled like fries. And the dogs went nuts because I smelled like fries. So the ice cream machine was working. Whoa. Yeah, I know, right? That was crazy.

It was working. And every time we go to this one location, it's always working. And here's the funny is when we ask, I always ask, is your ice cream machine working? Yeah. And they always say, oh, yeah. yeah, we're good. And they do it every time and they've never had a problem. So they're bucking the trend. Even if you're not getting ice cream. Like, let's say you're just going there to pick up a happy meal for band. It's like, hey, is your ice cream machine working? Yes, it is. It's working. I've

never done that, but I should. I should be like, yeah, is it working? Yes. Okay, give me three chicken Big Macs. Right. See you later. Uh, well, anyway, let's see what else we got. Record breaking couple got married in their 100. They got to marry in their 100s. Yep. Pretty crazy. 202 years between them. Wow.

Which is quite a feat, I suppose. After the loss of their original spouses, both these 2.0 people moved into the same senior living community in Philly, not expecting to find love again, let alone a few doors down. But after nine years of companionship and lots of doing it. Lots of four people. I'm doing it before dinner. That's right.

Dinner's in five. Let's go, Henrietta. They tied the knot, becoming the oldest married couple with a combined age of 202 years old plus 271 days. Nice. Their journey began as a costume party

on their floor, or on their floor, where Bernie and Majorie, Marjorie, sorry. Majorie. Majorie. I mean, you take out the I.E. And it's major. Right, right.

You'd think my brain would see Marjorie. Anyway, they immediately clicked. I'm trying to make more of it. That wasn't just their walkers begging into each other. Oh, I love that idea, though. Clank. Get out of my way. Their first date...

The first date coincided with the birth of one of Bernie's great-granddaughters, marking the start of a relationship that would blossom over time. Interestingly, though, although they attended the University of Pennsylvania around the same time, And their paths never crossed back then. Well, yeah, it's a huge school. You don't meet everybody. That's not how it works. He studied in engineering.

Marjorie became a teacher, and life simply took them on different paths until they met at the senior living facility. His granddaughter, Sarah Citerman. Cycherman, maybe? Maybe Sarah Sycherman. Sure. Silverman. She's the community. Sikerman.

There you go. Sikerman. Sicker man. On social media, she says, with so much sadness and fear in the world, it's nice to share something. that brings people simple joy. She added today my 100-year-old grandmother, father rather, married his 102-year-old girlfriend. They both, ooh, she's robbing the cradle a little bit.

No kidding. Good Lord. They both had 60 plus years of marriage with their first spouses and found love again at 100. So congratulations, you old prunes. You did it. That's right. Bernie and Marjorie.

Yeah. I hope you live another couple of months. Enjoy your honeymoon at Denny's. Yep. And then don't try to do it. on your waiting night. Or you might die. Final story, man eats 4.9 million euros

worth of a piece of banana artwork. You hear about this? You heard about this? You hear about this? I saw some talking about it on John Oliver. The way John Oliver phrased it is if you can imagine what somebody who would spend $6 million on a piece of artwork that is a

banana nailed to a board would look like, here's a photo. You are 100% Correct. Yep. Yep. It is not at all. It leaves nothing to the imagination. It's exactly what you think it is. In fact, here's the image, guys. This is the picture. Here he is. This is a crypto bro. Cryptocurrency entrepreneur, they call him, has kept his promise and eaten a banana he bought for $6.2 million. That's U.S. So even more than you were thinking with the $4.9 million. Justin's son, not Justin apostrophe's son, but Justin. Space, son. Justin says.

Plus Justin has a daughter now. That's how this works. Anyway. Yes, exactly. Snapped up a viral piece of our piece called comedian, consisting of a single banana duct tape to a white wall in an auction at Sotheby's in New York last week. The Chinese-born businessman immediately revealed his plan to destroy the artwork by eating the fruit as a snack at the news conference. Today, he delivered on his word.

34-year-old, he should not have this kind of money at that age, took a bite and told reporters it's much better than the other banana. It's really quite good. Oh, shut up. So I don't understand. So they showed this thing at an art festival in 2019. Yeah. How is it not black and shriveled up and gross in 2024 when he bought it? I agree.

I don't know if they keep swapping it. And if so, just keep replacing the banana and it really doesn't matter, right? This is one of those cases. I'm big proponent of the arts of all kinds. but this is horseshit it's absolutely it's a banana tape to a wall and Brian's right

bananas don't last more than a week off the bunch without turning all brown and gross so do they keep changing it is it preserved somehow like they don't say any of this in the article none of it's talked about

but Dr. Kilhoun says he bought the right to recreate the artwork not the original banana so so basically it's he bought he basically bought an NFT of a banana stuck to all

it just happens to be tangible but it's but it's replicatable but there's only there's only one that matters it's the one he spent the money yeah it's a TNFT it's a tangible yeah tangible non fungible

token that's right yes and and it's even dumber I think this is so this is so dumb if this is just you you get to recreate it so that means he can go do this again somewhere else tape

up, eat it again. Yeah. This is, you know how they used to, we used to teach us. What is up, world. When we were kids, they'd talk about Romans and the debauchery of high society and Roman, whatever. People in vomatoriums or giant orgies or whatever they were, just living like weirdos at the top.

I feel like we're, I feel like we're getting there again, man. Yeah. No kidding. They're all going to, you know. we're all close to drinking brando and electing President Macho Camacho. Like the

imagine the headline he gets, this is like a two-minute headline, right? Yeah. Man eats, man eats $6.2 million banana. Yeah. Great. What funny stuff. He's going to be on the news

at the last five minutes of every local news broadcast and a man who spent $6 million on a banana. I just ate it. Yeah. Imagine you donate that 6.2 million dollars to cancer research. You know,

cryptocurrency entrepreneur has donated a record-breaking $6.2 million to cancer research or Alzheimer's research or MS or something like that. You move up in the, number one, you know, you feel better about yourself than just spending $6.2 million, Brucester's million style on a banana you're going to eat. But you also... I like that as a term. Yeah. But you also, you know, you get the notar right of you being somebody who didn't do something stupid, which I think is more important. I agree with you. I completely agree with you. And you see this happen all the time, the guy that bought the $10,000 supposed Taylor Swift guitar, and it turns out it wasn't even hers. It was a fake.

Oh, really? I didn't hear about that. That's great. He brought it just so he could smash it. He was all mad at her for supporting the candidate he didn't like. And so he buys this thing at an auction, immediately smashes it, and later everyone found it wasn't even real. It's like, dude, I'm just saying, like, at some point, it becomes so much. And this is somebody who's got this 34-year-old dude, he's got money based on kind of nothing. Yeah, kind of. Right, exactly. All right.

Like, cryptocurrency, I understand all the arguments for against, I understand it, I get it. But in a lot of ways, it's empty calories. It's just sort of nothing. And it can change one day to the other value can change just wildly, you know. Totally. So if I had that kind of money, if I had $6.2 million, I promise you it's not on a banana I can eat in front of everybody. Right. Exactly. That's not even the real banana.

No, exactly. It's just, it's, you know, it's this week's banana. You know, I don't know. You know, when the great EMT explosion of 2027 happens and we're left powerless, he's going to be broke. Yeah, he'll have nothing. He'll have nothing. He'll have nothing. He'll have some hard drives with some data on it. Right, that he can't access because he can't fire up. No electricity. Yeah. It's

effed up. This stuff's up. Meanwhile, I will have all these toys. Yes. You can flip people off with the hand of many games. My modern system is all funco. I'll give you how much is that bag of flour? That's six funcos,

sir. Oh, I'll take two bags please. I'll trade you this uncharged video game machine that no longer works for some of your funcos. Exactly. And I've got these drink coasters from an event we did in Las Vegas before it turned into a zombie hell. I have a VR headset that's probably got two

hours of power left. So enjoy it. Yep. I look forward to those terrible days. All right, well, that's it for the news. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man will be here, probably with a good Christmas recommendation for a board game. Oh, I'll bet. Yeah. And you can tell me a little more about this

betrayal. I want to understand. Anyway, that's all coming up soon. our inevitable betrayal but before that Brian brought a song and he'll play it now I think

I did and ripped from today's headlines so Scott and I both been playing the brand new Netties game from Marvel

called Marvel Rivals and the syndicate sent me a song to play from the album from the official soundtrack. Big thanks to Ali

excuse me over there at the syndicate this is excuse me geez coffee the coffee burps this is

Chrisie Costanza. Cassanza. Chrisie Costanza, who's got a brand new song from the soundtrack called Rivals Till the End. You can actually hear the whole soundtrack, and the rest of it is all cool, kind of background-y orchestral kind of, you know, themed music for each of the different zones, each of the different environments that you play in. It's really, really cool.

And some of the character music. It's great. Good background music. Anyway, she's the front. front woman of the band against the current, but this is a solo project from her. It is rivals till the end. Here is Chrissy Castanza. The light's gripping tightly,

dropping all those fighting souls, But yet, across the world I see you standing in my way And remember the time, the place we used to fight Like the sun and moon, And I wonder If ever there was a time that we were friends The night has folly and shadows looming

And yes, that type has come from me to sink you out We are set now for our last reunion In breakfast chains find your way. Come fight me. Do you remember who you really are? Show me that you are still the only one for me. I'll be waiting for you. Click and up making your rise.

Raising up your fist and smashing through time walls. Before the rift, winters again. We are rebels till the end. Rise and flapping your mind. Hold on to your powers. No, I can't survive. Can't stop us. We are rivals to the end of time. We will flash no matter where.

We will bite, wishing across time's face. Because you are mine, designate to the end. You see the dawn. You see the dawn, the flames burning bright. Do you see the dawn, the flames burning brightly, shining on those memories, and yes, across all time I see you turning the tides? And do you see now our time, our turn, we can still fight, like the wind's in fire, and wonder no more, that now is the only time your heart is mine. Light has fallen, darkness grows, and yes, we fight for our destiny and faith, new day smiling for the past and future. Those chains leave the way, fight with me

And when you wake and open your eyes, Raising up your fists and smashing throats on walls Before the ritz splinters again We are rebels to the end Rise up, opening your mind Hold on to your powers, no one can't stop us We are rivals again until the end of time Show me that you're still the only one that you were still the only one that matters for me, I'll be waiting for you.

Wait up, open your hands holding on to your heart, look inside you. Can you feel it, the spark's in you? Add it up, unleash it up! Wake up and your rise, raising the fist and smashing through time walls. Before the rift, winters yet again, we are rival to the end, and rise up, up in your mind. Hold on to your powers, no one can stop us. We are rivals till the end of stay. I need to get to Staten Island.

What? Gross. Why? Ever hear of Planet of the Apes? We've come back, and now Brian will tell you who that song was by and from. I will. That's Chrissy Costanza, and a song called Rivals Till the End comes from the soundtrack. Marvel Rivals Galactic Tunes, original video game soundtrack, which just came out, of course, last week when the game came out. I'm excited because I love, you know how I love video game music, huge fan. Video game soundtrack music.

This is good stuff, too. listened to some of it yesterday and it's it is so good i also started listening to um an album from bear mccrary called the singularity which features his brother brendon mccrary who um uh and several members of oingo boingo um like the drummer guitarist no no elfman um but you got you know johnny vados on drums ste bartek on guitar it's really cool and his brother pulls off a pretty good a pretty pretty good elfman. That's crazy. I didn't know that was a thing.

I'm a big Macquarie fan. The guy makes nothing but cool like TV and video game soundtracks. God, he really does. Yeah. Yeah. BSG to start with. That stuff is so good. Yes.

All right. Well, everybody, you know what time it is. It's this time. Oh, I don't have it at handy. There it is. Here's a tangent for him. Be careful. May cause drowsiness.

It's that time of the month, see, where Dan shows up and gives us cool ideas. Dan, Dan, the Tabletop Man. Hello, Geek Jock. What are you doing? greetings programs and happy holidays everybody it is truly the most wonderful time of the year it can be most wonderful time of the year you know what i wish it would do though is quit everybody's so everyone i know is sick i'm getting over a ped cold sinus thing like what's with all that come on man let's yeah you know this is well you know you finally get cold and everybody starts going out and shopping nobody's really washing our hands enough and wearing a mask none of that no yeah no you're inside so much you know for the last few years so our communities are all over the place. You know, we just got to have that, hopefully the earlier in the season, you know, around Thanksgiving, just go ahead and get sick. And then hopefully then you're good for the rest of the, you know, rest of the month at least.

Yeah. You know, there's always a bunch of bugs growing around, but hopefully if you can get over it and be good to go. My kids were both sick when we saw them at Thanksgiving. And I'm hoping to stay healthy because I'm going up to Maine to visit DJ this week to watch them play some hockey. And then next week, too, we're all going up to watch them. So all that traveling, we're screwed. Yeah, you're hose, dude. Your host. My wife somehow is the only person in the entire family and extended family didn't catch this sinus thing. And I still am not sure she's not going to just, it's not going to hit her like a ton of bricks because she just, you know, she's not immune. But yeah. But for all the rest of it has been sick, I'm feeling way better. Here's a question for you though, Dan. Yeah. Two questions. One, as a guy in the pharmaceutical world, is there a daily cold medicine that actually you recommend? Do you know what I mean? Because you're always like, you look at the

the shelf and go, oh, there's day quill, there's this, there's that. And I don't really trust any of them to do much. I don't feel like they dent the can very well, like in terms of just making you feel much better. So are you, do you have one of those in your back pocket where you're like, oh, what you need is the, you know, a combination of zinc and these four other little weird things? Like, what do you do? Well, the, so there's a few ways to handle that. So now, bear with me here. So the first thing I like to say is, uh, you said, quote, unquote, I'm going to use your quotes here, Scott, daily medicine. Now, I don't want anybody to take everything every day. Now, there are people to talk about allergies all year round. Now, I,

I don't really like people taking allergy medicine all year round because you want something to work when you really need it to work. Yeah, and typically, you know, you're going to have ebbs and flows of that. So also, I also like people to kind of rotate your allergy medicine. So in the spring, maybe take your Zyrtec, you know, your Siterazine for a few months, get a little bit of a break, maybe take some Liradidine in the summer. These things kind of work. And, you know, there's similar ways, but sometimes just the kind of the molecules will help to kind of, you trick your body a little bit so that you're not taking the same thing all the time and getting a break. Now, when it comes to cough and cold season, like we're in now and flu season and such,

I generally, there's not anything you can quote-quote recommend because I like to treat the symptoms. I don't like just to treat everything. You want to treat what's actually going on. So down here, you were, Scott, you were talking about like kind of an upper respiratory bug that's going around with the sniffles and such. Down here right now, for whatever, there's kind of a stomach bug that's been going rampant down here to southeast where it's just it's more nausea vomiting and just trying to keep just trying to keep yourself hydrated and stuff so you know if you've got some diarrhea there's kind of a couple of schools of thought as far as you know just let it run its course because you want that out better out than in so to speak yeah you always want to yeah i'm a big fan of the out rather have it out than in but also like that's norovirus right that's the one that's going around uh that's nasty yeah um i think most of the upper rest stuff is going to be norovirus there's there's going to be norovirus there's there's going to be be different types of the stomach bugs are going to be a little bit different what they're caused. But really, what you're going to do is just want to keep plenty of fluids, let your body do its own thing. Now, for what you've got going on, you're going to want more or less an an

histamine. Now, you're going to want something like, again, kind of like those allergy medicines. You're going to want a satirazine, which is a xeratech or a fexophenidine, which is an Allegra. And you really have to, since every brand name, this is really what's kind of one of those weird things. I think I've talked about this in our Discord before, where there's so many, since everybody loses patents, They may call it something. Like even nowadays, they're still calling things Xantac, but it's not Zantak anymore. Like, they're still using their brand name, but they're using Pepsid, the main ingredient of what is Pepsid, in some of the Zantac, because you can't use the main ingredient of Zantag and mortgage has been taken off the market.

Oh, you have to just always look at. Is that the stuff we talked about recently, the stuff that doesn't work or whatever, or they declassified? Oh, no, that's your phenolephrine, I believe, is what's been, that's been taken off. That's more for sniffles and stuff like that. And you know what? I don't know. I've seen and I've taken some of those and I feel like saying something doesn't work, but also things like Guafenison, really, the jury's still really out and everybody takes

Robitussin all the time. You know, that's what helps and Mucinex and everything else. Like, that's even, you know, arguable whether it's been even proven to be work, work better than water. You know, water helps it. It's natural expectorant. And that's what you're using Guafenison for is to break everything up in your lungs and to get it out. But I still take Mucinex.

I mean, it still kind of works, but again, it's all the different things. But things like phenolephrine, when used in a nasal spray, does actually work. It just doesn't work necessarily orally because of the bioavailability of it in the gut and such. So things like nasal sprays. So what you got, if you've got some congestion and you want to use some of those different nasal sprays, whether it be oxymotazylene or even a phenopherin or even just saline, those are great to use, but do not use those for a long period of time. Because what happens is you're going to get some rebound congestion is because a lot of times,

Anything you do to your body, your body's going to try to fight back against. So when you're using these, you know, decongestants, your body's going to clamp down. So if you use them for more than three to four days, the congestion is going to come back and you're going to think you're really just sick. You're going to want to use more and more and more and it's just going to this vicious circle, vicious cycle of just being congested. So use it for three to four days because they generally work really well to help open you up. Then you've got to kind of stop it for a while and let your body clear everything out and then feel better. You know, anhystamines will help dry everything up. The decongestines will help open.

everything up and it's generally a good combination to use and then just let your body just take care of what is generally probably an infection that that's going on for especially the upper respiratory stuff i mean you're basically dr patrice really at the end of the day well i am dr patrice but i'm just not the that type of doctor no you know i'm not you know signfeld would have a field day with pharmacists too you know could you if you wanted to though let me ask you this this is a dumb question but let's say you just walked into somebody's family practice you knew the guy and he says hey i need to i'm going to lunch real quick can you just man the place and they and you'd say sure and then a patient comes in and says yeah i'm here to get my

proctology exam could you legally like say all right well plastic glove on bend over the thing i'm going to put my finger up your hole like could you do that are you loud okay no no no so what we can do and so what's interesting is there's a lot of what's called collaborative practice i mean i'm sure i could stick a finger up a hole it ain't going to do you a whole lot of good but But we're willing to give it a try. But we are willing to learn. If you're on a plane and somebody says they're a doctor on board and a general practitioner doesn't respond, are you able to step in? This is so much of a better question, by the way, such a better question.

It is probably in my conscience, you know, in my conscience, I better step up and try and help out, you know. There's a lot of times what you're going to be doing is just handling the situation or even more or less just doing like a CPR type thing where you're more or less just triaging what's going on when you're on a plane like that. So you're triaging what's going on. And then you may even have, again, collaborative because there's so many nurses out in the world. There's probably a nurse that's on there and chances on depending on where they work. He or she may know a little bit more of what's going on than I would do. But, you know, pharmacists are all about treatment. Doctors are all about diagnosis.

So that's why we can collaborative practices, like when I did rotations or even worked in hospital setting, the doctors would be the ones that would be like, all right, so this is what's wrong with Brian? Dan, what do we use to treat it? And that's the best way to do practice is by, you know, and a lot of times I would get when I worked for Cardinal Health when I was working overnights, doctors are going to write a note that can be like, all right, vancomycin per pharmacy. Or we've got this, here's this culture and sensitivity, go dosing by pharmacy. And then we would have to go through the labs and see what's going on. And then we would be the ones doing the dosing for those type of things. And we would be writing the order for the, you know, and the doctor's underwriting it. So that's the best time.

And I even did rotations in general practice where I'd be going into the office with the doctor. And we'd be talking about, all right, what's the best way to handle this, you know, because of what the patient's history is, their allergies or what they're currently on. Because, you know, a lot of times you ever go into the doctor's office? and the first thing you're doing is you're waiting forever just for them to come in. Yeah. And then they're going to come in and they'll be like, Scott, your hole doesn't look great. I've got to see what's going on.

Then they leave for another 20 minutes. What they're doing for the other 20 minutes is being like, oh, my God, what are we going to use for this? Yeah. You know, they're probably consulting different books and stuff. And then, you know, maybe even if they have a pharmacist on staff or something like that, they may come back, you know, they may consult with them and then come back and be like, all right. So what we really need, Scott, is Somodium because we've got to get you, you know, get all that

to get you, you know, get all that diarrhea stuff. Yeah, we got to. end that nightmare so okay but let's go back to the plane for second i'm going to make it worse you're in the plane someone says is there a doctor is there a doctor now you're going to be you could larry david this and go what's the problem you know and they would go well if they said something like they're grabbing their heart and they can't breathe very well you'd hop right up you'd be right there but if they said if they said he's got the laser shits and it's cutting the hole in the shell the hole of the plane and it's everywhere it's everywhere

You know, like, you're not going, you may be going, eh, do I tell him I'm a guy, that I have some, you know, you know what I mean? Like, maybe you wouldn't, maybe you'd be less, I'm not, I don't want to, I'm not pre-judging what Dan would do in an emergency situation. I'm just saying if it was me, and I knew it was the laser shits, I probably would be less inclined to run over there quickly and help out. You know, so I've been in a situation before where somebody's, you know, you're on a plane and somebody's, you know, you're on a plane and somebody's like, is there a doctor and I else. And the first thing you do is you look around like crazy, like you're about to tell a racy joke. You're just looking left and right. You're looking all over the place to be like, somebody please step up, so I don't have to, so I don't have to step up because the last thing you want to do is step up and be wrong or not have a clue, it'll be like, you know, my pacemaker is making all these weird noises.

I'm sorry, dude. I have no idea what to tell you, you know. Yeah, here, take a Tylenol. It's all I can tell you. Yeah. Yeah, do you have your anti-arithmics with you? That's about all I could ask and make sure you've got something with it, you know. Well, what you really hope for is a nice packed flight and Tolberts on some.

seat and you're in another seat so we got the drugs and we got the family doctor taking care of somebody else is maybe a surgeon you know that way they're not relying on guys like me and ibit to do anything and you guys can all take care of it and what most people think is so when you say it was there a doctor in a house there you'd be like oh is there a doctor and a pharmacist in house so they're just assuming that a doctor's going to step up they're going to have this bag that's going to have every tool imaginable in it and then i'm going to step up and i'm going to have a whole pharmacy hanging out of my my coat you know where i'm going to open it up bunch of shots You hold it open, like, yeah.

Over it's over there with a scalpel and a stethoscope, and I'm over here with a couple of nitroglycerin. That's, you know, it's a thing I can imagine. All right, now a question about board game. Somebody in our fandom sent us betrayal at House on the Hill. Have you recommended this before? Has this been a thing that we've talked about? I think it's been years since I recommended. It's an excellent game.

What's really cool about that game, and that's probably, does say, third edition on there? Let's see. The newest one. It says. I think it's right under the name and a friend. Right. Oh, sorry. Let's see. Yes, third edition. Is that the, is that good? Is that bad? What does that mean? That's one of the most recent ones. That's what they introduced rules. It rejiggers the rules a little bit to make it a little bit easier. So some of the things that happen in the old, old betrayal at house.

So what Betrayal and House of Hill is is basically a really cool kind of story game. And there's a bunch of different scenarios in it. Let's just say the three of us and Kim are playing. We're going to be just regular old players going in and we're going to be like, oh, so Ibit lost his teddy bear. And we've got to go into this haunted house for whatever reason to find Ibit's teddy bear. So as we're going around the house, looking at things, you're going to be uncovering other parts of the story that are going to happen. And then all of a sudden, in the middle of the game, it may be like, you're going to get a card. They'd be like, Johnson, you're secretly if it's ex-lover and wants to kill him.

You know, something like that. Wow. You're secretly the betrayer. So you're now the one that's trying to screw with everybody. Now, it's all what the problem was when, like, one of the original editions is kind of some of the setup rules were a little wonky. So if you set it up wrong, you would totally screw the whole thing because, You may not have, the item that you're looking for is not in the deck. There's no betrayer.

Somebody forgot to put the betrayer in the deck. So it makes it a lot easier now to set the things up. But it's a lot of fun because it's so much fun to play this game. But you have like a diminishing return in game with this. So you want everybody to know what's going on. So the first game may not be great. But then the second game is great because everybody knows like how to play the game. Because sometimes you're like, you know, if you don't know what's going on,

and maybe you have Uncle Remus that's like, I've just got this card that says I'm the traitor. What do I do now? He goes, now it just ruins everything. Uncle Remus. I love it. By the way, this smells amazing. You know how a new board game smells? When you've just opened it, it's that paint.

It's so good. Factory fresh. Oh, man. I know those are chemicals and stuff, and I probably shouldn't like it, but I love it. Love it. It's so good. And then what they also put out was Betrayal Legacy, which would take, it would be like a 13 scenario thing where it's Betrayal and House and Hill, but it's got a legacy system where the game changes more.

So it kind of keeps you, because the original, like, Betrayal House and Hill, if you play it like nine or ten times, it's going to get stale. Like, the first half of the game isn't quite as fun. You're just waiting for that turn, and then everybody's looking at each other, and they know what to expect for betrayal, you know, for the traitor. So the first, like, four or five games are excellent. But when you have the legacy aspect,

it really changes the game up quite a bit. And then there was also Betrayal at Baldur's Gate, which I think Wintney just mentioned earlier, is another great version because it takes place in that Forgotten Realms, setting. Ah, so that's what I wondered about is one of those games that, like, like, different game, obviously, but like Clank or, you know, the one you guys are playing right now. My brain just went blank.

Codenames. Oh, Codames app is so, so good. Everybody should check out. Yeah, we got to, I just finally installed it. You guys look like you're having too much fun, so I got to get in. But, yeah, I like a game that is, you can change the setting and apply the rules. I think that's fun. Yep.

And so you can always. What's good about Clank, too, is they have Clank, They have Clank Legacy. They have Acquisitions Incorporated version of Clank. They've got Clank in Space, which is really good. And then Clank Catacombs, which changes it up. Is that that the one that adds six player to it? Well, Client Catecomes, it may, I think the newer expansion might add to five or six players.

But what Client Catecumns does is make it more modular, where you have, you know, the board, like the tiles that go out. So it changes the dungeon every time. Clank is great, but some of the things that it changes, you know, it doesn't change enough. Like the cards are great to have. have extra cards for Clank, regular Clank with the expansion, but the dungeon never really changes. Clank Catacombs changes the dungeon every single time, which is amazing.

Wow. All right. Well, that's awesome. I'm stoked to play this. All right. Let's get to some of your recommendations. We've got the holidays coming up. Christmas is right around the corner.

I see you got at least two big recommendations. Let's talk about them. So I've got a couple that I threw in our chat here in Discord. But I've got a big coming up this week on major spoilers where I do Munchkin land. I've got the Munchkin Minute where I talk about. a whole bunch of games for my holiday gift giving recommendation or holiday just buying recommendations. I want to mention a couple to you guys, because I know that if I remember it correctly, you know, you guys are enjoyable family men who have large gatherings over

the holiday. So if anybody out there that has a large holiday gatherings that just like to play some games, first one I want to mention is a card game named Trio. This was originally called Nana, I think when it was released over, I think it was either Korean or Chinese released, but now it's released over here called Trio. Now, this is a card game where you have cards from, I believe, I don't think it's zero to 12. I think it's one to 12 in your hand, and you're going to get a certain amount of cards depending how many players you have. So you're going to have cards in your hand, and you have to arrange them from the lowest to

highest, and then let's just say the three of us are playing. You would have a certain, we would have like maybe seven cards each from one to 12 on our hands, and then there would be a certain amount of cards face down. So it has a memory element. So on my turn, I get two things to say. I could say, Brian, show me your lowest card. Now, Brian will flip over maybe a two as his lowest. Now, I'm trying to find a trio of these cards.

So I may say, all right, Scott, show me your lowest cards. And Scott flips over a one. My turn is over. All right. So now Scott goes, and Scott knows he's got a one in his hand. And he knows, because he just flipped over the one. He knows Brian has a two. So you're either asking basically, show me your highest or show me a lowest.

Now, maybe he's going to be like, Dan, show me your lowest card. and I flip over a flip out a two and now he's going to go okay Brian show me your lowest card now Brian flips out to two and now he's got to find a two now Scott knows he only has a one in his hand so he can't ask himself he could either ask one of us to now show our current lowest card to try and find a third two

or the cards that are out face down on the table you're trying to find that too so you're flipping that over and then I flip over an eight you know Scott picks a card flips over an eight so he doesn't get it and he flips it down now Brian knows that he's got a two I've got a two is my lowest and now Brian may go

all right, so I'm going to flip over another card. Obviously, he's not going to flip over the eight. He's going to try to flip over one of the other cards. Or what sometimes happens is Brian actually secretly has two twos. He's going to be like, all right, Dan, show me your lowest. I flip over two. And then Brian goes, all right, Brian, show me your lowest. And you flip over both your twos.

You got a trio, and now it goes back to me. You're basically, it's this whole memory-type game, but it's just so easy to teach. And it's another one of these games where it plays in like five to ten minutes that by the time you're done, it's it's the ultimate grandma let's just play you know it has that grandma that's like let's just play and my mom does this all the time let's just play so this is the game where you can just play and after you play the first game you're like all right shuffle up and do it

again and then you're just playing again and you just want to play it over and over it's such a fun easy to learn game yeah go ahead Brian it looks like they've got different art too like the like it looks like the Japanese version has these cool little hand drawn

cats and dogs and birds But then there's like this skull, like sugar skull. Kind of day of the dead vibe. The sole one is all the trio art. And the other one is the Nana art. Yeah. And the trio art is very like day of the dead kind of, I don't know what to. I guess the word trio has its origins in Latin.

Anyway. Yeah, well, it's like we always like to laugh about it. The first thing, there are people that are attracted to the theme and there are people that attracted to the gameplay. And then it's just like, oh, whatever theme. You're just like, ah, great. Here's a thing. I'm such a fan though I love love love and this isn't

I'm not just saying I like simple games but I love games that are like that where grandma says let's just play it and you play it and everyone gets it that's great in its own way but then the depth comes later and there's still there's still depth and this thing is literally the box says 36 cards in a rule book that's it

that's the game yeah love that oh this is the ultimate Johnson game yeah I'm all in sounds fan freakantastic it's also You can bring it somewhere and play it when you're just, you know, like, oh, we're waiting in line for something. Let's play a quick game of Trio.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can play us at the airport waiting a board. You're just sitting there and hell, you can probably just grab two strangers to be like, hey, you want to play a game? Let's go. Yeah, maybe they named it Nana because somebody's grandma kept saying, let's just play. The original name.

But Trio is for people who want to have a threesome. All right, just kidding. Hey, Dan, let's talk about the next one. I see another cute. So I got another kind of car game. It's kind of like a next step in this car game evolution, but still really fun. This is also cooperative. This one is called The Gang.

This was kind of a new hotness around Gen Con. I don't think I mentioned this one in the past, but I may have, so I apologize if I did. But what this is, this takes Texas Hold'em to kind of a different level where you're not actually playing against each other. Everybody has a hand and you're going to play Texas Hold'em. However, the whole point of the game is to you're trying to figure out who's going to have the best and who's going to have the worst hands by the end of the game. So you're kind of betting as a group into who will have the game the best hand as the cards come out. It seems like a really weird thing. But in playing, it is actually pretty cool because you're like each round, depending

on how things come out, you're going to change the betting a little bit. And then you're trying to refine how, you know, whether, you know, when Scott before the hand, we may have thought that he was going to have the best hand. And then when it turns out at the very end, no, you actually had the worst hand. So then your scoring is going to be changing a little bit there. It's another the one where it's not that hard to play. And again, only plays about 15 to 20 minutes. And then you're going to shuffle up you're like, all right, so now we get it. Let's try again.

We'll try and beat our last. So how much R&G is involved in that? Like, is it all guesswork as to who's going to have the best hand? Because they don't know either. And you really can't, you're really not revealing anything to each other because you can't really talk. So as you're kind of

as you're betting on yourself and each other kind of, you're seeing how strong their initial hand really so you're really trying to guess so it's really good for people that are able to guess like without even looking at somebody's hand guessing what they have so as you're kind of seeing what chip they're putting out you're like oh well this card just came out and now of a sudden they don't think they have the strongest hand right so they might not have gotten the straight they were hoping for yeah because the the um i was just going to say the uh the three cards

that are out like a texas holdem hand change your change the value of your hand immediately so like you could go from having a crap hand all of a sudden, oh, no, I've got three of a kind. Damn. Yeah. Or you think you've got an amazing hand in the works and something hits and you're like, well, shit, if I don't have that third card, I'm done.

I'm out. Yeah, well, you have those pocket aces and suddenly two fours come out and then all of a sudden somebody else's hand is way more strong, very stronger than yours. I love this face card art. I know it's just standard, you know, king, queen, jack, stuff, but it's very cool. And it also reminds me, like, we are having a year right now.

I don't know when this game came out. But we're having a moment where taking poker cards and changing things around like Balotro and there's others like this is like all the rage right now. And so this seems like perfect time to play a game like this. This is a new for this year too. This is a 2024 release. But for years and years, I don't know if it's as much anymore, but for years, there were, I mean, Bicycle and these other card companies, they just made a killing by putting out different theme, just regular playing cards with. with pictures on the back like just just think about it scott just put you know one of just put uh you know the can on on on the back of a card deck and you just throw it out there and people make make a living

off of just putting different art on the back of playing cards it's funny you say that i actually have a fred and can deck that's funny you said that oh cool yeah just a standard you know poker deck but it's uh it's it's just waiting for a couple pieces of art and then that thing's done you know it may not break like the million dollar mark but you make enough to just keep doing more and just keep having good returns. Yeah. I mean, it's... I love it. It's not quite crypto, bro. No, no.

It's not like banana crypto, bro. Yeah. Well, this is great. As always, great recommendations. Again, those two games are Trio and the other is The Gang. And are these fairly easy to find retail? Do you have to get them online? So Trio, you can find pretty much anywhere.

The gang you may have to look on Amazon. One of the best places to find games, especially this time of year, too. If you go to, if you have a Barnes and Noble that has a good selection. Obviously, a lot of the mass market stores have some great games in them, like Target and stuff, have some amazing games. Like, I always talk about Green Team wins and landmarks and River Valley Glassworks for your amazing gateway and good holiday games.

There should all be able to be found probably a target. But places like Barnes & Noble, you should be able to find Trio and Scout, which is another amazing card game. That's one of the things that I love now is like these holiday feeling of just grab a card game and play. Because they're usually not hard. There's a lot of different ways, whether it's a ladder climbing or a trick-taking or just kind of like your

phase 10 like game. There's a lot of those different types of card games and you find them all at Barnes & Noble. And a lot of times they have sales like crazy at Barnes & Noble. They have a huge selection of just regular board games and stuff. But when you go in there and you check out what they have for 75% off, where they're always sending out coupons

and stuff. That's the best way to get those type of games at Barnes & Noble. We were in there recently and they had tons of sales on board games just tons like it was almost too much i was like i don't even know where to start in here i just went if you ever if you ever have a question about was this any good and it's on sale just text me johnson i'm always around all right johnson text incoming wait what uh dan it's always a pleasure uh tell people where you can they can find more of you and your fine work so what i was like to say is if you're ever i know this is holiday season so if you

ever go to grandma or grandpa's house and you got like three or four hours to kill our latest All-Stars, two and a half hours of me and Riddle just talking about holidays and what we did over Thanksgiving and Christmas and talking about all sorts of gift giving. And then a few, we squeeze in some board game talk as well. We talk about what we've been watching. And of course, if you like Hallmark

movies, for whatever reason, I can't stop talking about stupid Hallmark movies because I love them with that. And we talk about that a little bit on there. It's a great way to kill two and a half hours. Also, I've got this week, like I mentioned, on the Major Spoilers Network, I've got a new Munchkin Minute coming up where I talk about all great games.

bunch that I didn't mention today for holiday gift giving and for buying and such like that. So check out Munchkin Land on the Major Spores Network. And if you ever have any recommendations you need, find me, Keechalk Dan on Twitter. I'd be on the other places, but I'm just old and lazy.

And it's not for anything else. It's not political. I just refuse to get more social media. No, I get it. I get it. It's a pain. You might really, if you ever do get bored and you're like, you know what, I'm just going to quickly do a little blue sky business, they make it. so easy over there. It's freaking

great. It's really great. Oh, I love it. I'll send you a couple of notes on it. Because that's worth doing. Threads is kind of a nightmare right now, but not for the same reason. I reserve my handle on well, I'd say where I reserve my handle. I reserved the geek all stars because geek jock was taken.

But I reserved the geek all stars on Blue Sky. So, you know, at some point, if you want to help getting me over to blue sky, go ahead and follow me over there, the more, you know, because that's another daunting thing. You're like, oh my God, I got no followers. Like, who am I going to talk. Yeah, the starting, the starting is daunting. Also, what makes it easier is knowing how many of the accounts you think are following you on X are either dead or bots now, because there's a lot

of that going on. But these starter packs, suddenly you'll get hundreds and hundreds and it'll just go nuts from there. It's so easy. Yeah, it's crazy. But also, the other thing I was going to say, oh, it lets you tie your domain to your username. So if you wanted to be geek, the geek jock all-stars.com, Whatever domain you own, you can tie your... Yeah, that will be your name if you want it to be. And you won't lose anybody in that transition. Or even if you changed it again, all your followers still say, but you can basically, it's basically self-verification.

So you can say, well, I own this domain. I am therefore, I am the Dan, not just some rando pretending to be me. So it works out pretty good. Anyway, we'll talk. You know, the good thing about, not to, you know, not to harp on X anymore, but when you curate, like, what you like and everything else, all I see. all day long and people probably that follow me will see this because i tweet it all the time i just see like puppy videos and cat like that's just what i see all day long is so like when you curate it

enough even though you follow a bazillion people like it's good to see some of those say you know heartwarming uh followers yeah it is it is it is all my instagram feed is now is just uh videos of black cats doing weird things yeah it's all it is yep that's what you want you got a you got to hone it man sharpen it to a fine tip dan take it easy go help that guy with the laser shits and we'll see you sitting in seat C-23. Lasterships. Can you imagine? What a nightmare.

No, I can't imagine. I mean, you talk about pooping on a plane. I can't imagine anything worse than having that situation on a plane. I just don't ever want to be the guy. Like this norovirus is so like comes on all so suddenly. Anybody on a plane who suddenly gets hit with the norovirus, they're going to have to, they got a, they got a problem. You're going to bar from poop.

your way to oblivion. Anyway, I don't ever want me to be that guy. All right, quick thing I wanted to mention. Details soon on the official TMS 32nd film festival. Yay. Very excited about this. Brian's idea of taking fake origin stories of TMS memes of any choice of your choosing is going to be our theme.

And you can be very loose with the theme, very creative, you know? Yeah, I mean, right, fake origin or a weird, a weird use of it that we'd ever even thought of or whatever. Yeah, you know the story about you can. eat rice, but you could have a completely apocryphal telling of that story, whatever you want. Exactly, yes. So we're going to have more details up soon, a little website for it. I got that half done, and that'll be probably in the next couple weeks, because I think it's something.

We're going to kind of coincide it with the Sundance. Yeah, just as a theme. And we'll have Robert Redford actually judging your videos, too. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. You'll see, and you'll accidentally see Brad Pitt at a bar or something like that. It'll be great. All right, that's it for today's show.

Frogpants.com slash TMS for all the stuff you might need. It is Tuesday, which means, what does it mean today? It means nothing today. It means nothing. No. I like Tuesdays because I don't have a ton of stuff. I have Greg next week. To me, it means the last puzzle pint of the year.

And they normally have your base set of puzzles and then a meta puzzle, right, that ties all the previous answers from the previous puzzle together in a really cool and creative way. Tonight they have the base set of puzzles, the meta-puzzle, and then the meta-meta-puzzle, which ties all answers from all-12 meta-puzzles throughout the year all into one puzzle. Oh, my gosh, dude. Like, they think that far ahead to make the end-of-year puzzle the meta of all of the answers to all 12 puzzles. That is wild. I didn't know that. Is that every year? I guess probably so.

Every year. And it is insane. insane that they've thought that far ahead or think about it that way that they've got it all figured out. They do anything else special for food or drinking or anything? Is it just sort of like a...

No, because it's always at a different place. Oh, that's right. You never... Tonight it's at a brewhouse that has empanadas, which sound amazing. And it's in South Denver, but Wes, Burgess Meredith, Burgess Deasel.

Burgess Meredith, back from the dead. That's right. Hey, Rock, when are we going to the brewhouse? Rock, I told you, Rock! Burgess Diesel is going to be coming down and meeting us there, so we'll have a little bit of extra brain power to tackle that puzzle. Nice. That's great. We'll have fun at that. We'll report on that tomorrow.

We'll have a regular show tomorrow. We got recommendals and Tom and all that fun stuff. So come back for that. That'll do it for us today, though. Brian, let's play a song on our way out. Okay, well, this is going out to Mark Heath, who says, I turned 52 on December 7th, a day that will live in for me. Unfortunately, it's on a Saturday, and you guys refuse to do a show on the weekend.

Any day will work, thanks. Wow. Happy birthday. Sorry, you get the old lady for that one. That's right, for that snark. Yeah. Oh, no, I guess you did. You turned 52.

Well, happy birthday, Mark. Hope he had a great birthday. And he said, any song by cake or a cover of a cake song. Well, let's go with a cake cover. this is a bit of a rare one because not a lot of people know about this soundtrack they might know about this game back in the

was it early 2000s there was a game a platformer called Stubbs the zombie I guess it was a platformer it was a 3D third person yeah third person action adventure kind of thing but stuff people

there is a fandom for Stubbs of zombie that is unbelievable how much they're in and I can see why absolutely And they, Cake contributed a song to the soundtrack, which was all older songs done by newer artists. It's a great soundtrack, by the way, so, so good. They contributed Strangers in the Night, you know, originally by Bert Camford. Strangers in the Night. But you think of Sinatra, of course, when you think of that song.

Here is Cake covering strangers in the night. Oh, my Lord. All right, that's it. We'll see you guys tomorrow. fantastic rest of your Tuesday. We'll see you then. Something in your eyes Was so inviting Something in your smile

Was so exciting Something in my heart Told me I must have you Strangers in the night Two lonely people We were strangers in the night Up to the moment When we said our first hello

Little did we know Love was just a glance away A warm embracing dance away And ever since that night We've been together Lovers at first sight In love forever It turned out so right

For strangers in the night There's a lot Yeah Yeah Yeah Love song Yeah Yeah

Love was just a glance away, a warm embracing dance away And ever since that night, we've been together lovers at first sight In love forever, it turned out so right For strangers in the night For strangers in the night Those pants are made for froggin. If you know what I mean. I actually don't.

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