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Episode Date: December 12, 2024Internal Poopage. Ask Your Doctor if Frogpants is Right For You. Podcasters do it in padded rooms. What Do You Have That Shrinks? Raw Ass Man Hand. Planes Trains and Autoerotica. A Proper Hoo Ha. Baco...n Fat Etiquette. The Denim Years. They're both Naked because Betty White. Horny onesie. Chlorinated and Urinated. I'll leave the Lucas to you. I'm looking at the guy catching the frisbee. Americas Next Dahli Lama with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Coming up on the morning stream, internal poopage.
Ask your doctor if frog pants is right for you.
Podcasters do it in padded rooms.
What do you have that shrinks?
Raw ass manhand.
Planes, trains, and autoerotica.
A proper hoo-ha.
Bacon fat etiquette.
The denim years.
They're both naked because,
Betty White
horny onesie
chlorinated and urinated
I'll leave the Lucas to you
I'm looking at the guy catching the frisbee
America's next Dalai Lama
with Wendy and more on this
episode of The Morning Stream
He's got his hi-fi
His boob tube
And his instant pizza pie
If this stuff is too nice for you
I've got some crap
The morning stream, what do you say, we get nipple to nipple.
Sure, why not?
Hey, everybody, welcome to TMS.
It's the morning stream for Thursday, December 12th, 2024.
Now, that's cool because you got a 12, 12, add those together.
You get a 24.
That is good.
This one qualifies this great numerology today.
Yeah, not bad.
That's Brian, I'm Scott, and we're here to do a show on a Thursday.
We are here with our little corner of the internet.
Our little carpeted corner of the internet.
Padded walls.
Oriental rug.
Sure.
You put all your equipment on, your musical equipment.
Do you have, by the way, I've never asked you this.
I don't know why it even matters, but do you have foam anywhere in your office
like dead and sound and that sort of thing do you not worry about that you do have that i've got uh i have
some right up here you can't see it okay same with me mine's on the ceiling yeah i was just curious
because it all they always say you know put some of that around you won't even need much i even
have a stack of it that's unused right now but right above me with the carpenter's tape oh yeah
it's very lame with the acoustical tile um that's great uh it is great yeah it is and and uh but i want
too much other crap on my
walls to put up
acoustical tile everywhere else. I see it on a lot
of the backgrounds of
YouTube videos where they're like
oh yeah and they do the thing where they have to
hold their lav.
Oh yeah. I hate that so much.
Hate that. Okay. So thanks for
click and subscribe and
the whole background is all like
offset
trendy looking
acoustical tile with
a glowing light positioned with
a purple or a pink
behind. I hate these things, but I also
they probably work and it annoys me
that they do. Like it annoys me
that people like it. Exactly. Because I just
I'm an old fashioned like
I'm like Tom waits in that scene from
a book of Eli where he's just got shit everywhere behind him.
I like that. I'm a fan of it.
But I'm not sure that's the thing anymore. I think
people maybe, you know, we're of a generation
that liked a lot of shit in the background, but
I don't know.
The Getting Lost documentary, by the way,
I'm gonna watch that
Yeah, once it becomes available
I'm gonna recommend all the hell out of it
But Damon Lindelof
Oh let me see if I can find it
Damon
You got a clip?
Lindeloft's office
I don't have a clip
But I wonder if
There's photos of it
So he has
The interviews that Damon Lindelof does
You see his
The background behind him
And it is this
Like it is what I've got behind me
It's like
You know
Captain America's
shield and some little action figures on the counter and then this and then a little
AT&T, a little ad at walker, you know, from AT&T.
Yeah, he's a big fan of AT&T, real big fan.
He's a big fan of AT&T.
And then right behind him, right just directly behind him, is Pee Wee Herman's Freaking
Bicycle.
What?
Like full-size Pee-Werman's bicycle.
The actual, like, the movie prop?
Yeah, I think so.
Probably.
He's a big shot.
He probably has ways of getting stuff like that, I guess.
Yeah.
I would be jealous of that.
That's the thing I would proudly display a bike like that.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, I don't see, darn, I don't see any photos of his, of his office online.
Well, he's old like us, so it makes sense, right?
He likes all the shit in the background.
He does.
He does.
All right, well, good job.
You know, who's older than us is that other one?
Who's his co-writer guy?
Carl and Q's.
Yeah, that guy's like 100 now.
He probably, he's probably got dead bodies behind him or something.
Who knows what you about?
I mean, I'd still, again, Carl and Cuse, I'd be able.
another person would be great to be stuck in an elevator with because it would be great talking to him and hearing, you know, what he's got.
He's actually only 10 years old than us.
He's born 1959, so 65, but he looks, I think he's just had really, really light hair.
So he just looks older than us.
Yeah, when he was doing Lost and he was in his late 40s, he looked old.
Yeah.
So I think, I think that's just his deal.
But he, yeah, he'd be fascinating.
He's had his hands in all kinds of shows I'd want to talk about, not just Lost, like Carnival and, um, well, uh, what, uh,
A lethal weapon two and three and Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade.
Oh, shit.
I didn't know he co-wrote on that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's even better.
I thought it was just like TV shows and stuff.
So that's cool.
Yeah.
Bates Motel.
Do you do that?
What's the one, area, not area 51.
The one about aliens and shit.
Oh, Roswell.
He did that, I think.
Oh, did he?
I had a hand.
I liked Roswell a lot.
Never signed any of that.
That was a cool show.
It's a little WB for.
Yeah, for my taste, but still, I enjoyed it.
The Ringer called his episode The Constant of Lost, written by Cues and Lindelof, the top TV episode of the century.
I'm sorry, of the century, you say?
Of the century, but they did that in 2005.
Yeah, the century, that's awful early to call it, isn't it?
From 1905 to 2005, are they saying, or no, that would be, yeah, that would be a century,
They sang 2005 to 2105, like just pre-saying.
I mean, it's a great episode.
Oh, it is, but it also, that's calling the winner a little too early, I think.
You got to get some time.
It kind of is, yeah.
People are just looking at his page here.
It's a weird, weird award to give out.
It's a weird flex.
Not flex, but a weird award to give out.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, so yeah, Carlton Cues, rest of the soul, just getting he's alive.
He's around.
Yeah, oh, my gosh.
Let's not do that.
None of these names we mentioned today need to have any trouble.
We're all good.
No, this is true.
We got some stuff to talk about.
We got an anonymous text from somebody who piped in.
I said queued in because of Carlton Cues.
Piped in about the Bond movie, the 26th Bond movie.
Right.
Which we got in a little bit of a back and forth with Randy on trying to understand where this movie is or what it is.
Yeah.
And this anonymous texter says the 26 Bond movie is Never Say Never, the non-Eon Thunderball remake.
I don't know what it means Eon.
What does that mean?
Eon is the production company
of the Rockleys. And so it's
non-canon.
Which we said. Never say never again.
And we talked about this incessantly
saying, yeah, no, never say
never. Because if you count
never say never again, you have to
count Casino Royale, the comedy,
the parody. And neither of those
are canon and neither of those are the
20 or part of the 25 bomb movies.
Yeah, you have to go canonical for this list,
I think, or else what are you doing?
You can still mention them and say, okay,
canonically, 25, non-canonically, two others.
27, that's fine.
But I don't think there's a 26 movie, like, in the canon.
And there's, and there have been documentaries about James Bond.
Do you count those, you know, even though they're not, they're not story canon, but are they, they're James Bond films.
So you have to count those, too.
Yeah, that's true.
So, yeah, I think 25 is the number, and we'll fight anyone who says different.
25 is the number, yeah.
And it's funny because I remember there being a big deal about Bond, so-and-so is going to do the
music for Bond 25 and I didn't remember that it was no time to die I didn't remember that it was
Billy Eilish but uh oh right I like that I but I remember that was like the big hubbub back in
2018 because they had to delay the pandemic really pushed no time to die out a bit but um
but I remember seeing bond 25 everywhere and I didn't didn't realize that that was the movie that
was bond 25 gotcha yeah it makes sense have him go out on 25 nice number you know
It is. It's good.
All that.
And then 26, it'll possibly be the guy we were just talking about, Craven the Hunter.
Oh, Aaron Taylor Johnson.
He's high up on lists, I guess, of a potential bond.
Really? Okay.
Yeah, somewhere I read that he's in the running.
He's higher in the running than most people think, according to like insider Hollywood people.
But I can't remember the rest of the list.
There was other people.
And it still blows my mind that he's English.
I know.
I forget every time.
I don't think I've seen him do.
anything but an American accent.
I don't think I have either.
I'm Craven's English.
Oh, I guess, well, I mean, you take that back.
I mean, in Ultron, he was, he and,
he and Wanda both had Latvarian accents.
Yeah, and Wanda's very, very conveniently forgotten her accent.
Very quickly faded away before Infinity War.
Civil War, I think it disappeared.
We need a whole six-episode arc of how she'd
lost her accent. That would be great.
Right. Right. I mean, she's a witch. She's got all this power. Perhaps that's how. I don't know.
Listen, she, you know, she can, she can create a world that looks like I love Lucy. She can lose an accent. I think it's pretty easy to. Yeah. Yeah. You can, I can, my brain can make that connection. She was doing it with a robot man. What else can you expect from a lady like that.
I mean, it was kind of Benjin-06 says it was a double-o-s. He says it was explained WandaVision. It kind of was, right? Like when she was outside of the
those
Westview
uh
uh
oh yeah her accent was kind of back
it was a nice little
it was a nice touch yeah nice touch to kind of but but it yeah but she had lost it in
end game and infinity war it was gone in those and they had gotten to wandavision yet so
i don't know it's it's one of those things where it's not a big deal like i don't even
think it's it's not even as egregious as what they do with uh princess lay and the first
Star Wars, maybe. Like, that stuff is, that stuff is heinous.
I smelled your foul stink on board the moment I was brought on.
Then later, move this walking carpet out of my way.
Pip, yeah. Put this fucking carpet out of my way.
So silly. Anyway.
A little small for a stormtrooper. Hello.
I mean, I'm kind of glad she lost it because I prefer her without it, but why have it in
the first place? So dumb. I've heard some, I've heard some, I saw some YouTube channel
like, I tried to explain it.
And he was like, I mean, he was kind of mansplaining it.
But he was basically like, well, and her official capacity as an Alderon representative and a princess, she needed to evoke a more proper hoo-ha, whatever.
And I'm like, okay, I'm sure that was it.
Whatever.
I mean, yeah, she was.
I have a feeling it's George Lucas on set going, you know, why don't you try, yeah.
If you try the next thing we work on, that's what you mean.
All of our extras have the accent.
Maybe you could just do it like that.
Does somebody get me a turtleneck?
This one's falling apart.
I already have a turtle neck and it's not a shirt.
Your George Lucas is dangerously close to your Ken Crats.
Yeah, it totally is.
Those two guys are shared to see.
I will leave the Lucas to you happily.
I like it, though, because it invokes Ken Crats and I love your Ken Cracks.
It's less about how I say it, Scott, than what I say.
Right.
It's the words, not the method.
It's the words.
I get it.
We also got an email to follow up on some of that big pharma stuff
and why they do advertising and where they don't and that sort of thing.
I thought this is really interesting.
Robert from Hender tuckie wrote in.
He does quite often.
It says morning singular and bear.
Singular is a brand, but I don't know what they make.
Singular.
They do like a...
Probably respiratory or a...
Oh, that would make sense, right?
Yeah, singular.
Yeah.
Bear, of course, giant corporation, who kind of sucks.
Aspirin folks.
Poo-poo heads.
I think they own like some big food.
Asthma an allergy drug, by the way.
It's a singular.
Sanger.
Bear owns like a bunch of food now or something.
We shouldn't trust.
Really?
Yeah, we shouldn't trust them.
They're weird.
I don't like them.
Yeah.
Anyway, he says on Thursday's show, and this is a couple Thursdays ago,
you discussed the fact that the U.S. and New Zealand are the only two countries
that allow pharmaceutical ads.
The pros and cons, you found were pretty lame.
I know they weren't your lists, but we're, sorry.
And you weren't making an argument.
You put an extra were in there.
Anyway, the con was that viewers might not know that there's a generic available.
Rarely do pharma advertises or rarely do pharma advertise if there is a generic.
Also, pharmaceuticals or pharmacies tend to automatically fill generics unless expressly ordered by your doctor.
That's true.
I've gone into my pharmacy before and my doc will have said, here's the thing you're getting.
And I'll go in and I'll say, well, we're giving you a generic.
because it's only like 22 cents on your
on your insurance or love it when they do that yeah it's like you want to pay that
I'll take yeah and I'm happy that that one aspect that tiny minuscule aspect of our
health care system is sometimes in your favor very rarely but sometimes right correct
and don't come at me with well here in Britain we just go in and doesn't matter what it is
the brand name or otherwise it's for free I know I know we know all right
Anyway, he says, the other was that the ads will make people want meds they don't need.
If your doctor prescribes a med that you don't need, then your doctor is the problem.
That was based, I think, on some of the feedback we got.
Anyway, he says, I saw an ad for a new med that I thought might benefit me.
I asked my doctor, let's see, like the ad told me to, and they all do, don't they?
Yeah, because it does, yeah.
Ask your doctor, if such and such is right for you.
Yeah, my doctor agreed.
I asked him directly if he would have suggested this new med.
He said no.
So the way I see it, we have our own advocate.
Pharma ads are just, or we are our own advocate.
Farma ads are just information.
We should not be afraid of information.
Unless it's information society, in which case, they're a scary band.
You should watch out.
But they are pure energy.
They are pure, pure energy.
According to Leonard Nimoy.
Anyway, it says there's a fun fact.
Ozympic is owned and manufactured by the Danish company, Novo Nordisk, which I always thought was a tech company, by the way.
Yeah, because of the disc.
Yeah, I think so. Nordisk sounds like a competitor to the, like, zip drive.
Yeah, exactly. It's like, what do you, yeah, what do you guys get in?
The Nova Nordisk holds 125 megabytes. That's the one I want.
Yeah, my Pentium 3's hard drives running out of space. What should I get?
I'm thinking the Nordisk is pretty good this time.
Yeah, it's pretty good. Scuzzy interface, all that.
Anyway, says they advertise in the U.S. because they can.
They charge prices here that aren't allowed, they are not allowed to charge back home.
I guess pharma companies are the same everywhere.
That's true.
When you get that particular medication, Osempic, which is originally, well, it still is, but it's for diabetics.
Here in the States, they charge exorbitant amounts of money because people buy it like crazy for like weight, just weight loss and for looking better.
And by the way, and I'm going to tell you this, and I believe this to be 100% true, you can come at me all you want.
But everybody in Hollywood who suddenly shows up at an event and they've lost like 30 pounds.
Yeah.
And they go, oh, it's just, I've changed.
my lifestyle. I'm doing this and that. Do not believe them. They're lying to you. They're on
Ozempic and they can afford it because they're freaking millionaire Hollywood people.
They can pay the $1,500 a month that costs outside of insurance. So just know that.
Okay. When you see John Goodman, don't go, yeah, John Goodman, you muster, you're hitting the
gym. No, he isn't. Well, I think he started looking, I think he started looking better before
Ozempic. I think John Goodman may have actually, may have actually put in the work.
maybe um but i there is somebody in my life who is doing who's on ozempic for health reasons and it has
affected obviously they've lost weight because of it but um so you know there might be some
situations where their health what their their their weight was causing some health issues and so
oh 100% 100% i just hate that because it's the weight loss thing du jour whether yeah yeah it's making
it hard for people just regular people to get it and insurance companies aren't like you do it they
should admit it for sure yeah yeah i don't yeah i have no problem with that especially if you're diabetic
man this stuff's a lifesaver it's huge i know and make it cheaper and make it available to me yeah
nordisk novo nordisk you get but holes exactly anyway says he says uh p s i would love to hear
what dan dan the pill pusher man thinks about the guys that's pretty great i love that it's great
listen you know the pill pusher man is the guy who will say hey there's a generic version
I'm going to give you that one instead.
I should have, you know what I should have done?
I think it would have been timing.
I just didn't see it yet, but we should have read this when he was here, yeah,
because he would have been great for it.
We'll hear from him in our little group chat that we've got.
That's true.
We could ask him there and find out next time he's on.
Yeah, but those commercials, I mean, the commercials are,
the one thing people are really bad at is separating what they need from what they want.
And when they watch those commercials that have, you know, people running in the park,
or um eating a giant banana split or whatever and they say oh i want to be able to do that what do
i need and they see the medicine they don't care like you know it's not a matter of oh what are
the symptoms this thing fixes because you webmd this stuff all the time not you personally but you know
people do where they're saying um yeah i do feel a little lethargic now that you mentioned or i do
i do have occasional aches and pains yeah i do need this and that would be my i you're right
on to what I was, my reply was going to be, which is, I understand what he means, don't be
afraid of information. But sometimes this stuff, as advertised, can be a little misinformy
because they're trying to sell you something, not trying to inform you, which is part of the
word information. You can't spell information without inform. So when they're properly, not properly
informing people, you need the doctor's side of it, or at least that will help. And they're also
vulnerable people who are going to be more likely to fall for, not scammed outright.
But like, you know, they're going to see this and go, oh, this will solve all my problems.
I'm going to go out and get it without really reading into an understanding what the risks are because they're in a vulnerable, vulnerable position.
That's my issue.
I'm not there.
Of course, there are going to be people out there who are like, I don't believe anything until I check it myself and, you know, do my own research and, you know, all those people.
I get it.
I get that those people exist, but not everyone's like that.
And so there's a reason this stuff's illegal in other countries, whether or not we agree that it's a stone throw too far.
is a different argument but I understand why they would want to tamp that down because advertising
is inherently trying to convince you to do a thing and they're not going to tell you the negatives
they're going to they're going to try to avoid the negatives the best they can and even these ads
do it they're going to diminish those as little as possible in the commercials even where
may cause bleeding and internal poopage and death and it's wild that guy is catching a frisbee it's
like, hey, hold on with your talking.
I'm looking to this guy catching a frisbee and thrown into his dog.
100%.
What you're seeing visual is not matching with a guy who has bloody diarrhea 20 times today.
Show the symptoms visually and then we'll talk.
Yeah.
So I think that's, that's all there is to that.
Internal poopage.
Whatever.
Internal poopage.
You try and come up with a negative symptom on the spot, people.
I did like how you had bleeding and then internal poopage.
It could have been internal bleeding.
Because I get that internal bleeding and poopage.
Yeah.
But I say have both.
Internal bleeding poopage.
Listen, what sounds worse?
Internal bleeding or internal poopage?
The second one.
I'd rather take the internal bleeding.
Thank you very much.
Doctor, it just goes in.
It's all backwards.
It's all backwards.
It's a full of shit.
That episode of South Park where they all poop out on her mouth.
It's a horrible episode.
Have you ever seen that?
The Human Caterpillar episode?
It is so, it's not even that one.
It's like, I know, I know.
I can't remember what it was.
What was the point of it?
It's not the one where they're all driving Priuses.
I can't remember.
It's horrifying.
Don't watch that episode.
It's not good.
I mean, it is good.
Hope you're all done with your breakfast, by the way.
Yeah, swallow that last hunk of egg bacon or whatever he ate there.
Egg bacon.
Mm-mm.
All right.
It's time for, yeah.
cooked, so we made bacon about a week ago.
Oh, yeah.
And Tina was getting ready to dump the bacon fat remaining in the pan into a can that we keep in the fridge just to store all the fat until we throw the whole can away.
And I said, oh, hold on to that.
Bacon fat.
No, keep that.
And we poured it into a separate little ceramic thing that we keep in the fridge.
And then when I cook eggs, scoop a little bit of that bacon fat, put it in the pan and let that be the,
the non-stick stuff that I used to make the eggs and
chef's kiss. It's so good. We had a group of friends and we had
someone rage quit our friend's, our friend group
because someone did that without asking him if he wanted to use
the bacon fat. Like they poured out the bacon fat and
yeah, this guy's name was John. Somebody freaked out and said no and left. Well, so this guy's
name was John, that's all I'll say. And we were at a camp out and we were a
big group thing. Everybody was there. I think we
may have only just gone for the day. I don't think we slept there. But we were there for the day
and they were making breakfast and somebody made bacon first, right? Yeah. Poured the
bacon grease into a thing. And then they're like, all right, time for the eggs and the pancakes and
whatever. And they use the bacon grease for the pan to do that, like you're saying. Yeah. Yeah.
Which, by the way, I'm all for freaking best thing ever. It's so good. It is. Maybe not good for your
heart. Some of the suggestions are not comments from people in the chat about, oh, can we start a pool
on Brian's impending stroke.
Yeah, it's not something you want to do every day necessarily, but, you know, once in a while.
A couple times a week, I'll pull out, if I'm not doing toast, like usually it'll be two eggs and a piece of toast and a piece of like wheat toast is my breakfast.
And if I don't do toast, I don't do any butter or anything, then it's like, all right, I'll live a little on the other side and use bacon grease.
Now, keep in mind, there's still a lot of bacon, or there's still some bacon grease left in the pan after I,
very carefully spatula out my eggs onto a plate.
Sure.
So I'm not using, and it's certainly not a spoonful.
It's like, um, God, it is, it is literally like a pea-sized piece of this bacon.
It's not even like as much as you use butter and stuff.
It's, I agree with you.
You don't go crazy with it.
But this guy got so mad that we did that.
I didn't do it.
Someone else is making it.
But they, when they put the bacon grease in there and then they fed everybody the pancakes or
whatever was next.
And he ate, was eating some of it.
And they're like, oh, that bacon grease.
really helps it and he's he loses it he literally throws his thing stands up because he's a
vegetarian and nobody told him they were doing this oh shit well that okay that is a very valid
yeah he was so mad that he threw his plate down rage quit the camp left in his car yeah or
before he did that it went off in the woods and made himself hurl into the woods okay yeah and then left
and that i think that's the last time that guy was his he never hung out of vegetarianism was it was it because
of religious reasons or was it he just
no he just hated me need his murder morosey kind of
yeah that was it I mean he didn't seem to
he didn't have problem with everyone else having bacon he wasn't that
he wasn't like that militant about it but
sure sure he was really upset that nobody told him and I you know I totally
got it but I just thought it was a yeah I just think
ending everyone's friendship was a little harsh
that is a little harsh yeah we had
so we had our friends over
friends that we've known for a long time they came over
And the guy and the couple brought his sister as well.
And she's vegan.
And they were coming over for a barbecue.
And so I got the grill out.
And I started cooking burgers.
And then she had a special veggie patty that I cooked up for.
And she's like, you're not going to cook that on the same burners that you're cooking the meat on.
I'm like, oh, you know what?
I didn't think about that.
I'm glad you said something because I was planning on it.
Like I was planning on, you know, having it all on the same grill and easily juice from the meat could, you know, move its, make its way down the little bar to your paddy.
So I basically had like a thing where I could separate the grates and I did a really good scrubbing job on the one I cooked hers on.
So there was no residual creosote from meat.
Yeah.
And then and then cooked her patty on there.
Oh, my gosh, creosote.
Is that why that guy's named creosote?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, my gosh, I never put the two together.
Because he's a big...
Another wet-out-thin mint.
Yeah, he's a big, greasy meat-eaten fool.
Also, this reminds me of that episode of...
Is it George who does it?
It's a Seinfeld episode where I think it's George trying to get back at a girl who saw...
Yeah, the one that saw a shrinked weenie from being in the pool.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was cold!
Yeah, he gets her...
back by putting oh right yeah like what do you call it oh do you like the uh do you like the vegan
potatoes or whatever it is yeah i think it was eggs right i use the bacon fat or something or yeah she's
all match he goes these these eggs are amazing george what'd you do and he's like ah the lobster
that's it he used the lobster the trap yeah i guess the chat probably knows let's see
oh the tim tim you predicted it i didn't see your post he says how did he already say it he just
says how long before Scott Johnson remembers the similar Seinfeld episode. That's it.
Oh, thank you, Tim. Well done, Tim. Jeez, Louise. That's amazing. All right. Let's do some new. Oh, I got to tell you this. You might like it with this. That's right. Yeah. It's like a bib. Yeah, it's like a bib. Yeah, it's like a bib. Yeah, it's like a big. And that's a great episode, actually. It's a pretty good revenge for seeing your shrunk up, you know, self. Yeah, I think so. And blabbing about it. Yeah, because she laughed and was rude about it and all that. Exactly.
And it's a real problem, ladies.
Oh, it's a huge problem.
You don't have no idea.
What do you have that shrinks?
Nothing.
As far as I know.
Show title.
Bang ass.
What do you have that shrinks?
That's going in.
Yep.
All right.
I did one quick thing.
This is a word of warning.
It's funny because Brian and I were talking the pre-show before we even got to you guys about how our wives like to turn stuff off when we leave.
Just to be safe.
You know, you're out of town.
You don't want certain appliances to catch on fire, that kind of stuff.
And I should have been thinking this way myself yesterday because while nobody was around,
I decided to heat up some jambalaya.
And as you know, our microwave is still currently on the fritz.
Oh, right.
Jeff Sire, I know there's a way to fix it.
I've been too busy to fix the magnetron.
I've just been too busy.
So don't come at me, everybody.
I just am cooking things manually.
It's fine.
Takes a little longer, no big deal.
But I'm wearing long sleeves.
It's kind of cold yesterday.
It's like 25 degrees all day or some crazy loading number.
Right?
Do the thing.
Got the gas stove.
I'm envious that you've got a gas stove.
I love our gas stove.
We've got an induction glass top, which I love.
But if we didn't have that, I would love a gas stove.
Yeah, gas stoves are pretty cool.
So it's running, and I'm wearing long sleeves.
And at some point, I put my hand down near the handle thing.
And then I see smoke, and I smell a burn that is not the food.
and I'm like, what is going on?
And I move back like this and what the heck's going on?
This sleeve, not the shirt, I've thrown that shirt away.
This sleeve of the shirt I was wearing, it's on fire.
It's on fire.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so what do I do?
I go, well, I imagine your first one.
Well, I definitely went, oh, la, la, la, la, like that.
Kind of like when I'm playing a whore game.
Work, no, there's penis.
And I go, like that doesn't work.
It's just sort of like going, hurt, hurt, moving, but it's not.
actually putting it out. So I take
this raw ass man hand
and go. Yeah.
Like that. And that worked to put it out.
Yep. So.
Cool. Yeah. Anyway, won't be doing that again.
Nicely done. Yeah, so be
learned. We'll be cooking for myself again. That'll teach
me. Yeah. Learn from me, guys.
If I'd have had a glass top or whatever
instead of the thing, I wouldn't have caught on fire.
I will say here, the only problem with these
headphones that I've had is that they block out other sound.
And so when I'm doing these chiber crystal holders, the 3D-printed khyber crystal holders, the light that goes, the LED that goes inside, doesn't just go inside really easily.
I have to take it over to a, I have a heat gun set up, and it's pointed straight up.
So basically the heat gun is on its back.
It's got a nice little stand that it sits in and points straight up.
So what I can do is I can turn it on with one hand and then hold the khyber crystal.
crystal holder over it and then try and get the light in nope a little bit more heat a little more heat
more heat and then nope and then finally a little more heat ah now i can get the light end great
sure and without hearing because i'm listening to music and this cuts out all other sound i didn't think
that i like hit the switch but it's got two modes like a a fires of mordor and then uh the sun
the two seven wow i was thinking those fires of mordor
was the top one but the sun was the sun is the top one and i turned it from sun to fires a
mortar thinking that i turned it off and i went away and did it da-da-da came back and then like
an hour later i came back and and i didn't have my headphones on what is what am i hearing
is the 3d printer on and i go in there it's like oh crap this thing is just blowing straight up
fortunately there's nothing close enough for it to to um even get warm the ceiling is high enough
that the ceiling wasn't even warm the curtains are far away but it's like that could have
gone really, really bad. That gives you
pause, doesn't it? I don't like that. It does.
Exactly. You think about crap, this
could have been, you know, like if the
cat would have gone in there, rubbed against the
cord on that, maybe it would have
fallen over or something. You'd have
a sphinx cat by now.
I would lose all her hair. Yeah.
Curled up in a little circle right here next to me.
You need a cat cam. Yeah, we're going to... I'm looking
forward to they. You can put it right there, right? Move that and stick it there.
Yeah. Yep.
Well, watch...
You all them in here, by the way. It's class clown.
Oh, look at that.
George Carlin.
Nothing wrong with that.
Great album.
When I went off to college, I stole a lot of my stepdad's records, and you can tell this one got a lot of use.
Like, it's got that worn out from being pulled in and out of the sleeve or the stuff.
His denim ears, man.
He wore a lot of denim.
His denim ears.
This one doesn't look at this.
What kind of barbarian am I?
Oh, my gosh.
Not even an insert sleeve in this one.
It is just loose.
it's raw dog in that sleep that thing
raw dog in the cardboard not good
you got to get a nice little
protecto in there a little protecto sleep
man I saw that and I almost said the seven words
you can't see on television is that the album
has that on there it's the album yeah it's the album
that's how I learned how to that's a huge
breakout and it's also got his hip
that's how I used to listen
I think it opens with that I used to listen
to Eddie Murphy and
Bill Cosby and have all those things
memorized unfortunately
one of them I can't do in pleasant company,
and the other one turned out to be a douchebag rapist butthole.
Yeah, who knew?
Great, great stuff.
All right, let's get to, yeah, we got some news, guys.
You're going to have to just groove on the news.
Here we go.
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Yeah, and big thanks to them sending, they sent Brian an email, and then Brian forwarded it to me.
And I'm really glad you did, because this is very cool.
And if you have a cool project you're working on,
let us know.
Like, you can put it in the promote you thing on Discord,
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Email us the info.
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where you can use the text line, even, whatever.
Give us what cool project you're working on,
and we like to talk about them on the show,
bring them up on the news.
So let us know.
There's a lot.
I'm looking at, like, what you could win,
the first treasure, and it's really, really cool.
So, oh, folks, if you like Minecraft,
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That's right.
Do this and don't see that,
Jack Black movie that's coming out.
Oh, that's so worried. I'm not worried because I don't care.
I'm really worried about that. Yeah, things can be bad.
It looks bad. I feel like Jack Black is on autopilot.
Kid movie autopilot right now.
Yeah, that devil thing that we talked about yesterday.
Yeah.
Dare Santa.
No, thanks.
I know.
Really poorly reviewed.
All right.
Jay Z's cannabis brand goes up and smoke.
Nice head one.
Nice job.
Bazinga.com.
I'm not kidding.
Hope eat every day.
Every day.
Jay Z's Cannabis brand Monogram.
I didn't heard of this before.
Launched in 2020.
Monogram.
Which is a single gram, right?
One gram?
Yeah, it's a gram with kissing disease.
They call those Grammys and now we have the music industry.
Anyway, launched in 2020 amid glowing media coverage in GQ, Vogue, and Vanity Fair soon followed.
However, four years later, Monogram seems to have vanished from the market, despite its luxury positioning.
or perhaps because of it,
which featured $50.
O.G. hand rolls.
Like, I assume that means,
I don't know if Jay-Z had a hand in it or not,
but...
Yeah, probably not him. Somebody rolled them by hand.
Premium packaging also.
Monogram's website lists nine retailers,
eight in California, one in Arizona.
And yet none feature the brand's products online.
The brand's parent company, the parent company, T-P-C-O.
So I love that the parent company is literally,
called the parent company. The parent company. TCPO. That's kind of great and dumb. I think
I like it. Yeah, I kind of like it and hate it at the same time. Yeah, exactly. Sort of hate it.
But anyway, uh, seems to be faring no better. Noted SFGate, which is reporting this story.
Monogram and a recent merger of three cannabis companies that went public via social, or sorry,
uh, special purpose acquisition company or smack.
seem to be in an unbeatable position with board members, including Michael Auerbach,
touting its massive cash reserves, and Jay-Z serving as the chief visionary officer, the C-V-O.
The C-V-O.
Yeah, it sounds like cervical vagina offering.
Anyway, what could go wrong?
And then it happened.
They entered the cannabis market with $575 million in cash, reported a staggering $587 million loss in 2020.
and now the whole thing's gone to poop.
The upshot of this is nobody wanted to pay for expensive, $50 hand-rolled
newbies.
I don't know what they were thinking because I think Mike Tyson's like his little fake ear gummies
you can buy.
I think those are killing it.
His cannabis company's doing great.
Snoop dogs is doing great.
Everybody's like making money on this new like it's legal in whatever states.
Jay-Z could, you're Jay-Z, you could have done this.
Yeah, yeah. Just quit making it boutique pot and just make it pot.
Yeah, just make it pot because I'm guessing, well, I don't know anything about pot.
But if somebody out there would be able to try it and go, yeah, this is bad weed or this is just like any other weed.
Or it's just like any other weed, but it's served in a $100 rolling paper.
Yeah. Yeah, with the, you know, Beyonce lipstick on it or something. I don't know.
Now that's how you do it. You get his wife, Beyonce, to like kiss the end of it.
And then you got a little, you know.
You know what I'm saying?
Wait, no one's possibly going to take that out of context.
No, you just got to kiss the end and send it on its way.
To kiss the end of it, and it'll be worth a lot more.
Here's a story about a lift driver in Colorado.
Just kidding, this isn't you.
It's not going.
Lift driver allegedly tried to scam a woman after imaginary child peed on a seat.
This is great.
This is so great.
I freaking love this.
You might say Tammy Whitmer was taken for a ride after a literal ride.
Who did this one?
This is a U.S. News and the world report.
Well, it's just I'm carrying it, but yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
You see here.
Whitmer said her ride with the lift driver to Harrisburg International Airport
and began and even ended eventually,
like any other Uber or Lyft ride she's taken.
She boarded her short flight to Philadelphia,
and that's where, waiting for her connecting flight.
She realized something was wrong.
A series of messages from Lyft saying her driver indicated cleaning is needed
after the ride to the airport and she would be charged to $40.
I didn't know you could do this.
Can you do this?
Like if somebody...
Yeah, I can do this.
Yeah, if somebody leaves a mess, I can say cleaning is needed and it'll automatically...
But I have to submit a photo of the evidence and then they bill the rider.
Wow.
It usually happens with puking.
Like it's $150 minimum cleaning fee for puking.
I don't even know what I'd...
Because I've got cloth seat.
Like, if somebody pukes in my car, do I take it to a car wash that's got the water gun?
And I just, pshh, new car, new car.
New car.
It's time to, yeah, to be sure.
Yeah, just hit the, just on the, the only way to be sure.
On the lift app, he just hit new car, and they send you a new car.
New car, exactly, yeah.
The lady said, she gets this, and her first thought was, my gosh, and this her quote,
I walked through the grass.
Was there something on my shoes?
She looked at the bottom of her shoes.
They were completely clean.
They followed up with photos, which Whitmer showed to ABC 27 News,
what she said appeared to be long, dried stains in the car's rear seat.
Another photo showed a sign hanging on the back of the front seat,
which she said wasn't there during her ride.
So I don't know, she says, if this guy does this continuously
and sends the same pictures, etc.
Basically, the guy has a scam where he claims people have made a mess.
In this case, said a little kid who was with you for the ride peed on the seat.
there was no kid there was no kid with her she didn't have a kid she's the and i'm guessing the
mention of a another photo showed a sign hanging on the back of a front seat which okay i'm guessing
that's just the relevance of oh well these are old pictures as opposed to well what was the
importance of the sign did it say please don't pee on my seats yeah yeah exactly i don't
yeah this also really weird but also i'm guessing that i'm guessing that uh lift has policies about this
So as soon as they figure out the driver's being a dick,
it's no longer a lift driver, you're out.
Yeah, yeah.
I just hope she didn't end up paying.
It doesn't say whether she ended up having to pay to work it out.
I'm guessing she didn't.
I'm guessing that she was able to prove that she,
pretty easy to be able to say, I don't have a kid.
There'd be no reason for there to be a kid with me.
Or, you know, here's me at the airport.
Maybe there's a way to say, yeah, you can see there's no extra ticket for a kid or whatever.
There's got to be a way that she could prove that there wasn't a kid with her.
But the cleaning fee, if you did one of these, the $40 one, that fee does go to you because you're the one having to deal with it.
It goes direct, well, all of it goes to me.
Okay.
So it's not like this guy's, like, I could see where the scam would come from.
Like if you claim someone vomited and it's $150, I mean, that's pretty good money if you can fake it enough for Lyft not to notice.
But it even says later in this article, they take it very seriously and they look at both sides of this.
And the driver in this case didn't have a bunch of.
repeated damage claims.
So that's why they thought it was all good.
But they have refunded her.
Good.
Because she was like,
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Blah, blah, blah.
Kid with me.
Blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
I, you know,
I had a passenger I took years ago
that I picked up from a swimming pool.
And they sat in the back seat
with wet swim trunks.
Yeah, like you do.
Like you do.
And, but it left a residual like,
when that dried,
it left a residual like,
Like bleachy?
Bleachy kind of look to it.
And I, you know, I had to go and pick up some upholstery cleaner and scrub.
I mean, you know, I didn't realize I probably could have taken a picture of it and said, hey, you know, don't come in here with wet swim trunks.
Yeah, or bring your own, bring a towel or something.
Bring a towel.
Sit on, sit on, sit on a towel or something.
But, yeah, I.
They probably thought, it's just water, but it's chlorinated and who knows.
chlorinated and urinated and...
Yeah, and chlorinated pools, publicly chlorinated pools are very chlorinated.
So it's not like a minor amount of chlorines.
I'm going to leave a stain, man.
Right, exactly.
Gross.
You should get down and smell that now, see how it smells.
Not a chance.
Not interested?
Don't want to get in there.
Two years of other passengers have sat back there, so no.
Brian, I will give you $50.
If you get into the crawl into the back, you see, you got to film all this.
yeah and then you got to get right in the two there's two seats back there right yeah okay you get
back there and just nose right to the to the to the cloth upholstreet and just yeah and just
breathe in and then do the other one breathe it all that in 50 bucks is yours if you do it no no
it's less about worrying than me catch something and more about just video of me ending up on
the internet of me smelling the the seat because that could be used in so many bad ways it's like
you're right you're right
Yeah, yeah.
You're right.
Me needing the...
Yeah, go ahead.
Let's get the little question answer here.
Unrelated to that.
So yesterday I had a passenger in the car.
Yeah.
And picked her up, we start driving, and she starts sniffling, and she says, do you, do you, you don't have a Kleenex in here by chance, do you?
And I reach into the center console, because I always have one of those little pocket pouches of Kleenex.
And there were like two or three left in the little pouch.
and I said, oh yeah, here you go, and I hand the pouch back to her.
The whole pouch, and I don't pull a Kleenex out and hand her with the Kleenex.
I give her the whole pouch.
She blows her nose.
Unfortunately, she didn't leave the residual Kleenex in the car.
Thank goodness.
But she just took the packet, the rest of the packet with her, and didn't even ask if she could.
Oh, man.
That doesn't seem right.
Exactly.
Like, you know, because if she would have said, oh, here you go, here's the packet.
I said, you know, there's only one or two left in there.
take it because you might need it later.
I would have 100% you would have.
We got more of those pout packets here at the house.
We replaced it instantly.
But the fact that she didn't even ask is like, oh, come on now.
I'm annoyed by that.
That's a social contract break right there.
I don't like it.
I think it is.
I think it totally is.
Put that on the list.
All right.
We're going to take a break.
When we come back, my sister Wendy is back after a couple of weeks away.
We have a very interesting discussion today based on an email that is also ripped from today's
Headlines!
Yay!
Love ripping!
That's right.
Go get your Luigi ready, everyone, because we're about to talk about it.
All right, that'll be after this song break.
Brian, you have a song to play?
Well, we're putting Wendy in the middle of a heavy rock sandwich
because both our India in the middle and our cover at the end are going to be rocking.
Let's start with this one.
This is a post-punk band from Louisville called Photo Crime,
but it's spelled F-O-T-O-C-R-I-M-E.
This is, they even touted as their heaviest song to date.
It's called Cautious, and it rocks, man.
Big thanks to Clary and Call Media for sending this one over.
This is, I think it's just a single.
I don't see any mention of an album that's coming up.
So this just sits on its own.
Here you go.
Here's the song Cautious from the band Photo Crime.
Masso!
night my threes
If I can shake this fright out my mind
On the edge of the light
And I claw back out as the TV bleats
It caused me
When it sees here behind your eyes
It seems to chill down my eyes
It seems to chill down my side
We're cautious, so cautious. We're cautious.
We're cautious.
We're cautious, so cautious, we're cautious.
On the brink of being left behind.
left behind on the road
I feel I'm pushing my eyes
try to breathe
but it won't subside
and I do anything
to make it stop
When you see
the fear behind my eyes
Does it seem to chill
down your spine
We're cautious
So cautious
We're cautious!
We're cautious!
We're cautious, so cautious, we're cautious!
We're nother.
We're cautious
We're cautious
So cautious
We're cautious
We're cautious
We're cautious
So cautious
We're cautious
We're cautious
So cautious
We're cautious
We're cautious
We're conscious
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Brian, tell me more about that rockin' song you just played.
Yeah, the song is called Cautious.
The band is called Forgeus.
photo crime. It's a brand new single. Those
guys are from Louisville. That's
all you need to know. Nice. Yeah, we're not
going to docks them completely. What else
do you want from me, people? Yeah. You want
their home address. You want their number. Yeah,
my gosh. Um, you need to know
the names of the people in the band? I can find it for you. I was just going to say,
I don't know why this is, but for the last two and a half
days, your TDS stuff has been
great. No issues. It's been great. Yeah.
I think whatever they did, they
fix something. I haven't even restarted.
I haven't restarted my computer in
at least a week.
Jeez.
That's pretty good.
Or the router.
So I'm pretty sure it's got to be a TDS like, oh, how long has this been, how long has this
wire been kind of dangling loose?
Yeah, you know, wire on the floor.
Figure that stuff out, guys.
I'm surprised nobody called in to say they were getting dropped internet for short periods of
time.
That all sounds about right.
All right, you guys, get ready.
Sit back.
Enjoy.
Here's another Minnesota tradition that's not so easy to throw in the garbage.
That's right.
That tradition being having my sister.
Mr. Windy on the show.
Hi, Wendy. How are you?
I'm good. How are you guys?
Are you? That's good. You were in Chicago, doing cool Chicago things.
How'd that go?
It was great. There was a cold spurt and people that it was so easy to tell the locals from the not locals.
Yeah.
And we met some friends there that were in Kentucky and they were dying and we were like, oh, nice.
Oh, yeah. Kentuckyans are going to have no idea, but that's like.
I know. I don't know. I have sick of blood now. People, it's weird.
I feel like I have finally
metabolically adjusted to this
freezing weather and so I can go out
like this is refreshing.
It's pretty wild.
Like it's negative five today and I'm like
it's kind of nice.
Well,
Nana Kibbden North are now.
Sure.
You know,
that Swedish blood,
it kicks in and
it does eventually.
It's a tick in a minute.
But yeah,
good.
Well,
good.
It's good to have you here.
Of course,
my sister is an actual therapist,
a psychological wonder,
really.
Every Thursday or many,
many Thursday she comes on the show
and talks to you guys about some of your issues and problems and questions and that sort of thing.
And it feels like it's been too long.
So I'm really glad we're going to be doing this.
So interesting that it happens to be on a week with such a weird thing going on, psychologically and collectively, that we got an email about it.
So, Wendy, I'm going to just dive right in and read this thing.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
All right.
This is from somebody we're going to call SV, like sports vehicle, I guess.
wondering if Wendy could talk about the psychology, about the CEO shooter, specifically, how a lot of people reacted to it, almost happy, almost giving him hero status for doing something about our terrible insurance here in the U.S. or in the States.
As you can see, I kind of lean in favor of what he did at last, sorry, at least from a symbolic point of view.
But I also see the problem with murder, regardless of why and who.
Well, good.
Yeah, that seems good.
glad you clarified that. I did see all your, I did see all these other companies pulling their
executive info offline, only to have it all posted to Reddit because, uh, since their public
companies, uh, it has to be disclosed. People are, sorry, people want change. And this might start
the process of getting it. Question mark. Who knows? But was curious what, uh, what it is about this
that is different from any other targeted killing, says SV. And it was pretty palpable. It may have been mostly
online palpable, right? That's a thing
I feel like needs to be said because
you know, I don't know that mom and pop America
were all going, that's right.
V for Vendetta, get him, right.
Like, I don't know if that was happening a lot, but I know
online there was a bit of
a thing. Social media
surge about, well, but you know,
it's making change. Yeah, I mean
for me, for me it's this
simple and then we'll dive into it.
For me, it's this simple. I think that
extra judicial
murdering of somebody on a street
is bad, but I also think the slow agonizing killing of thousands of people over time because
your insurance company is screwing them at every corner and they can't get the cancer meds they
need and they can't get the whatever, or they're being, you know, sent into a lifetime of debt
and horrible inability to keep up with it because they're getting denied claims and that sort of
thing. I also think that's really evil and bad. So I get why people feel this way, but I do
think it is possible to have a nuanced opinion about it where neither is great but it is important
to read the room and understand why somebody might do this and why they at least based on his quote
unquote manifesto it's shorter than a manifesto but his you know what he said about what he did
if he indeed did it we're still you know we're in that part of the the process where innocent
and don't prove guilty and all that but exactly but whatever if he did do it uh you know there's
i think this this deserves more of a nuanced take at least that's my opinion
So Wendy, let's talk about the big, the big weirdness of it and maybe why people reacted the way they did versus, say, if, you know, just some person was gunned down to the street.
Why is it different than that and that sort of thing.
Yeah.
Well, let's start with the best place to go for nuance is the internet.
So we did it.
It sure is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I would start with this.
Well, first of all, he's local, right?
He's from Minnesota.
Well, while we were with these friends in Chicago.
I kept dropping Minnesota fun facts, and they were like, wow, you really love it there.
And I'm like, I really do.
And they're like, okay, enough.
And then when I got home, I looked up, I don't know if you guys know this, but the future
Dalai Lama is a high schooler here in Minnesota.
I didn't know that.
I didn't realize they knew who the future Dalai Lama is going to be.
Yeah, there was a kid, apparently somewhere in, I don't know, nearer to where it's all, you
know, from.
And he turned out to be quite a stinker.
So I think they, like, rescinded it.
And so anyway, you should look it up.
He's like just a sweetheart and he's like a linebacker.
He's just like the nicest kid.
How did they?
I've seen a King of the Hill episode where Bobby for a hot minute is the new Dalai Lama.
And they, I thought that was kind of a joke.
But it sounds like this may be kind of what they do.
What do they hunt around and just go?
America's next Dalai Lama.
Like a vibe.
And it's the first American ever to be chosen.
He's his family immigrated here.
Obviously he's not kind of amazed that we can have an American dolly
Yeah. And he's just like lovely and they're trying to raise him kind of normalish and then he'll he'll start his whole deal. And so I, my friends are like, yeah, what other cool thing? Because they don't have a lot of cool Kentucky stories to share to be honest. And so I was like, sorry to top it all off with the freaking Dalai Lama is in the high school like three counties over. Yeah. His name. Anyway, so it's pretty funny. But his name is called a big week. His name is Calca Jetsa Jetson Dampa Ripo.
is his name. Anyway, go ahead.
He's got all the names. I don't think he goes by that in high school.
But anyway, so we had a big week, right? And then suddenly the CEO of United Health Care,
who is a Minnesota local, because that company is from here.
And I didn't send them that to brag, to be honest.
But we also have been aware of a couple things.
You know, this might be the first time this is in the sort of big national news, right?
But apparently the Star Tribune here, which is like their main paper.
there was a man who had had cancer treatment and then was like post facto denied all the
insurance coverage for his cancer care and was given a bill of $155,000 for his cancer treatment
from United Health Care.
So what happened was Star Tribune knocked on some doors and was like, excuse me, is this
what's happening?
And then they paid it, right?
So this was in the news, I don't know, I can't remember when it was a couple months ago
or maybe a little longer.
And so you have, and this helps me understand this situation better
because we all have our own experience with health insurance, right?
So if you're an American or if you have been lucky enough to experience it outside of
this country and get very confused when they just give you health care and you're like,
well, who do I pay?
And they're confused by your question, which has happened to me.
You have had experience with a health insurance company either being helpful to you
and making a situation better or denying care or denying, you know, pre-Oabomacare,
you'd get denied if you had a weird diagnosis on your record that maybe was inaccurate,
which happened to me.
And so suddenly you can't get a new plan.
I mean, it is, it's a complex system that, unfortunately, does not favor the regular person
who's just trying to live their life and then get sick and needs help.
I want to know one other thing
We're at our most vulnerable during those times too, right?
Like your child is ill
And you are trying to fight
A monstrosity of a
Of an institution
To try to get coverage or
You get denied, you don't know why
I mean, it is
It's one of the cruelest things I think
That is an American society
And when I talk to anyone who's never experienced this
They will just, they don't understand
How barbarian we really are
And so I think
You know, from everyone's own personal experience
to what I think happens in this exact Internet moment, right, which is a CEO,
if you talk to people who feel like they're closer to the CEO that they relate to that guy,
oh, he's just doing his job or, you know, it's business or because they're two steps away
from a CEO position or they relate to that world in a different way or they have maybe never
personally had any challenges with their health insurance.
They've always had good coverage.
they might just feel the empathy for that
because we should feel empathy for anyone who's lost the life
and the sadness for his children
and nobody wants anyone gun down on any street ever
that's not whatever anyone wants
but that relating to which guy I think matters
so do you relate to the kid who you know
I mean if you look at his history he went to the great high school
he went to Penn State or whatever and did well
had a bunch of normal roommates, did lots of stuff, traveled a little bit.
Like, he's just kind of a normal guy and then got really into Ted Kaczynski.
Is it Ted Kaczynski?
Am I saying the right?
Ted Kizzynski, yeah, the Unabomber.
Yeah.
Got really big into his book.
He was also from Minnesota, right?
Am I remember that right?
Yeah, what's with Minnesota?
What are you guys doing?
Hey, the victims from Minnesota, not the shooter.
Let's be clear.
Dolly mama and the victim.
Get it straight.
I'm sure we have we got shooters it's the winter let's be honest we actually have a lot of writers from here and someone was asking like pretty well known writers or you know and they're like well what do you do a winter you got a right you know yeah you can't go outside yeah environmental um anyway so i i want to jump off with that point of like who do you relate to and what is it triggering for you when you hear this story and what's actually alarming about the story more than just
just that people are like, yay, someone died.
That feels really cruel if you're just observing, right?
But we also live in a world where people threaten each other's lives all the time online.
Yeah.
Right?
Sometimes normal, respectable people will find themselves so angry, they will be death-wishing
and typing it in to someone if they don't know.
You know what I mean?
Like, that phenomenon is pretty wild to me.
And if somehow there was a way to find out whoever said every one of those things,
It's just not a normal human behavior you can get array with face to face, right?
The internet has provided this space.
So I think there's a bit of that.
You would not be laughing at the widow or the children in their faces.
Of course not.
Probably not.
However, what's happening is violence and death are so removed from us, for the most part, if you're lucky.
That the realness of that maybe isn't striking you.
And what overrides that is your own pain, your own loss.
your own feeling robbed or ripped off or harmed or the deaths you've experienced because health
insurance did not cover good care or your child was not able to, you know, I've read a few things
of just people's, you know, a dying child not transferred to a new hospital because the
transport's not covered. And that transport's a thousand dollars, right? And people can't live
their lives and save their families in ways that just seems so logical, like a scan won't be
covered or whatever it might be. And you're battling in your worst moments of your life in grief
and pain and stress with what feels like the greediest monolith in the world. Right.
It's very relatable, right? Like you, the stuff about his mom. More so than most things.
Yeah. When you hear about somebody gutting somebody down, most of the time it's like,
oh, they got a weird conspiracy. They took it too far. They believe.
that the pizza place had kids trapped under it and they were going to get trafficked.
And, you know, you buy into some thing and then you go, then you get really hooked on the
concept of it and then you take it too far.
That's usually the MO here.
And that's not very relatable.
We don't like to relate to people who go nuts on conspiracies.
But this isn't a conspiracy.
This is a guy who is watching his mother suffer and not get any of the claims that supposedly
she was due and all this sort of stuff.
It's very relatable and very huge.
human to be super pissed about that. So I think, I mean, that has to have a factor here, right?
That it's not, it's not him going, I heard the Jews have a laser that are aimed right at the thing.
It's not that. It's not this. It's different than that. It's a practical thing that by bipartisanly,
we all can look at the health care system, most of us, and, and acknowledge that this is not great.
That this is not great at all, right? And you would, and you saw some of that this week. You saw people who
normally
the only people I see siding with
with United Health Care
are gigantic
CEOs of other
multi-million dollar companies who are also
millionaires because they're scared
I mean one in particular is walking around
with his kid on his shoulders all the time suddenly
out of nowhere which feels very human shieldy
but whatever
yeah very gross but my point
is like like
when they're the only one saying
this is a problem or they're the ones
going, I can't believe, a depraved act of this and that and the other.
And everyone else is going, eh, read the room, chief.
Like, maybe, you know, it's one thing to, you can condemn the murder.
100% absolutely should.
To the furthest extent of the law, you do all you can to not have people murdering
each other.
But you cannot ignore cause with the effect here.
I don't think.
Right.
And that's, you're proving my point exactly, right?
Like, if, if, if, which, which guy is relatable to you?
Which, which of us are making business decisions that we know harm people on the daily for money?
Like, that, that's a lot of businesses.
It's not nobody.
And so you're like, yeah, he's got the hard calls to make.
And, you know, so you will justify whoever you see yourself most like, potentially, right?
And so that's happening.
Someone just took a life.
Is this the best way to get something to change?
here's what concerns me is what changes other than CEOs go underground.
I don't know what this changes.
I do know the Star Tribune can go and publicly humiliate them,
and they will pay that $155,000 bill.
Yeah.
That worked.
Yeah, that worked.
So I don't know what the outcome of this other is obviously an incredible amount of attention.
And, you know, I had an interesting experience.
When this first happened, I was talking to Elliot just about it.
He brought it up, and he's just like, that is so sad.
Like, this is the innocence of a child, right?
Like, that's, he's thinking about the kid, the kids of this guy.
And he's like, and he was such a good person.
And I said, Elliot, why do you think he's a good person?
He's like, well, he's in health care.
I was like, oh, honey, he's not like a job to his forgiving lives.
But, you know, that's the, that is the, I think, I mean, I think it illustrates actually a decent way of understanding, like, what the world might feel like until you don't benefit from the privileges you are used to, right?
So when people are like, I don't understand why you're in so much pain, it's like, well, that is a statement of privilege.
That means you've never been discriminated against, or you've never had these other things happen to you.
So you think the way it is is fine, right?
And this was an example of, to me, it's a little French revolutionary vibe.
So, for example, I don't know that you've seen this chart, but I should double check to make sure it's actually real.
However, but just sort of the wealth gap during the French revolution and what we have in the United States now is about the same.
It's rough, right?
And so you're going to have so many people, regular people, middle class people who could pay their health care bills if, you know,
they're reasonable are suddenly having like a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend was in
the hospital with some kind of necrosis in his brain. It was from a from pneumonia. I mean,
what the crap? No one knew what they were doing. You wouldn't believe the amount of money was
spent to figure this out. I was like, you got to go in a house. House will do it.
It will figure it out. One hour. Fun five minutes, right?
None in one hour with commercials. Yeah. $300,000 later, it's, it can be treated by intense
antibiotics and IVs, and then they send them home, and you're like, that's just like Thanksgiving
afternoon, like you're screwed now. And that cannot just be the way we live life. So something
obviously has to change. Is this move us towards that? Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either.
I do hope everyone feels a twinge of like, oh, I'm a little too excited about this. Maybe.
just the and also recognizing like it's also okay to have all the feelings right it tells us something
you know no one's wishing anyone dead but are we also like hey maybe it's it's not just sucky to be
the person who can't afford life you know yeah no i mean part of me hopes part of me hopes it moves
some needle in discussion and possible policy change and all of that um
You know, I don't, I could get into all the reasons why I'm not that confident about that, given where we're at, uh, at the very moment.
But, you know, this sort of thing does have a way, like if you, if you look at any kind of violence in the face of somebody being oppressed, okay, and you can say, well, no, it's not the same as oppression.
It is if you're dying of cancer and you're screwed and your whole family is going to be destitute for the rest of their lives.
And you're not getting the health care you need.
you may die early as a result.
When it happens to you, you'll feel different.
I feel this way with just simple stuff.
I have some meds my doctor has me on that when I go in to get them checked,
every time I'm a little nervous because I'm afraid Aetna's going to go,
eh, this time, we don't know.
We don't know if we're doing it because they did that before.
And then they come back, okay, yeah, we'll let it go.
Like you're just, you're beholden to a system you have zero input or control over.
And all it is is luck.
How bad are you going to get it?
Are you one day going to have pancreatic cancer?
And sorry, you went out of network for that one trip to the hospital.
That's 10 grand right there.
Here's another 100 grand for this thing.
You didn't know, but that doctor wasn't the one at the ER that you were supposed to seek out.
Like all this jumping around through hoop stuff, when you're in that position, you consider lengths that maybe other people wouldn't consider in polite society to try to get change.
That's what this kid did.
I still think it's wrong.
but I'm sorry if you look at this from a historical perspective that's how every major thing gets done is somebody does something violent somewhere and I'm not saying that's how you do it but I'm saying this is what you get when the system's like this you can't do this for this long and not and not expect some of this to happen when it's proven that it works and it's a horrible way of doing things that overshadowed that gets overshadowed by it well but it works right and that's unfortunate and I've got this like there's this quote going around thou shun it out
kill also means thou shalt not profit margin or let profit margins decide who lives or dies like that to
me sums it up i don't want anyone murdered i also don't want all these people to die in a legal way
in a legal evil way you know what i mean like we just the system so effed so i hope i hope some changes
i mean i don't i don't know well it needs to because let's let's be clear with some numbers here
40% of all bankruptcies in the country are cite medical debt.
Medical bills account for 40% of the bankruptcies.
I mean, that's crazy.
15 million Americans have medical debt.
And half the reasons some people don't have medical debt is because it's just impossible
and there are systems trying to be in place to write that debt off.
I mean, the amount of like choice that the insurance company has,
like you're describing Scott, in order to tell.
tell us they'll cover something or not.
And you talk to, you know, the whistleblowers at any of these places, they're like,
yeah, sometimes we're told to lose every third paper, right?
Or, you know, there's long been in the insurance markets and, you know, an incentive to not cover people.
Like, that's how you make your money.
That money is made.
Exactly.
But there seems to be no roof to the greed involved in that.
There seems to be no heart in that.
And I think that's what is so far.
frustrating, especially when we have all of these other countries doing this fairly well.
And, you know, and so that's really tricky.
I think there's the, you know, if it's affordable or we're not like thinking about it too
much or, you know, a little bit of just like, when it's not me, this isn't on my mind.
But if any of you, raise your hand, on my hands very high, have had to use public health
insurance, you know, use the marketplace, whatever one, and you have a $10,000 deductible
and $150 co-pays
everywhere you go.
You don't get health care.
You just don't do it.
You avoid it.
You quit going because you have a pain in your chest
and you say to yourself,
oh man, I'm in my 50s.
Probably so much you get checked out.
It's been here two weeks of this pain.
And all you can think about is,
I'm not going to go to devastate my family.
I'm not going to do it.
And so you avoid it.
And so you don't go and then people die
and have either that
or they develop worse health situation.
I mean, Wendy, I don't know you're familiar with this, but for the longest time, the preexisting condition thing, which I still get in my, my entire life, I will never understand how the preexisting condition thing was ever a thing, how it was ever allowed.
Because guess what?
Wendy had a mad ball growing in her when she was little and had surgery.
And when that thing came out, you suddenly had a preexisting condition that showed up on everything.
And it didn't matter.
Well, guess what?
My children born with pre-existing conditions forever.
It's insane.
grown out of the outside of his stomach.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, if they roll that back, we're all hosed.
We're so hosed.
Because everyone's got one now.
We all have preexisting conditions of some sort.
Gene had cancer.
I have, uh, see, uh, whatever it is, apnea.
It's like, okay, all these qualifies preexisting conditions.
Yeah.
So we can't cover you.
Or if you want to get covered, you got to go to the other tier.
That's a $20,000 deductible.
God.
Hope you never have a baby, like freaking.
Yeah.
Well, we, I was talking to our friends in Chicago about what we paid for each of our kids being
born.
We both have four kids.
Their kids are a little older than ours.
I paid $100 for my first child, born with birth defects and challenges.
And then I paid $90,000 for my last child with birth defects.
Fortunately, I had some supplementary insurance, so it only cost $5 or $10.
I can't remember, but it was awful.
And that, look at the number.
They're nine years apart.
It went from, and that's because I went from a company-based insurance to the public market.
And that's just the reality there.
So any creative endeavor, any self-employment, any not working for a giant conglomerate,
you don't get the luxury of health.
You just have to sacrifice that.
So I always think from a business perspective, don't we want more innovation?
Don't we make me crazy when I really think about it?
And so when we look at what solves something like this, what solves this?
Like there's a psychology to it.
I think, I mean, that's why we're talking about it, at least with me.
is like, okay, we relate to one or the other more.
The Fury we're all kind of walking around with.
Generally, this is a release of some of that.
You know, it's our own personal stuff shows up.
But what has to happen is a collective change, right?
Like something different has to go on.
What would it even be?
I want you guys to solve this.
Ready, go.
What do you think?
Because I blame freaking.
Mix in. Because in 19, whatever, that dude, we have recordings of this actual conversation where they are deciding whether to tie health insurance to companies and employment or to offer a more global plan. By the way, we have an amazing, what do you, I forget what they call it, but health care plan that's, you know, state subsidized. It's called Medicare. Go find an old person you love and find out how incredible their freaking coverages because it's incredible.
incredible for the most part and that is universal yeah so it's so anyway I get you got a fun
stuff I get there's you know but people are smart we could figure this out anyway but Nixon made
that decision back of the day and was like let's tie it to employment I think he actually said
let's tie it to employment so I might I know where it started I'd like you guys to solve it
what do you got oh my gosh yeah this is the problem right like it's not easy and it's not
easy because money massive amounts of money are involved if it wasn't there would be change like if
this was not profitable they wouldn't they wouldn't do it and that's it so how do we make it not
profitable we just don't have a lot of control in that regard as individuals certainly or even
collectively I mean this is why for those who see this dude as a guy who made a heroic move
That's why they see it that way because they think they think we're kind of out of options.
So it's easy to say, you know, well, what he did was wrong.
And that's just patently wrong.
That's not going to get us any further.
The point of it was, well, we're out of what else is there?
Like you do come to that point in societies at some point.
We did it by rebelling against the British and then fighting him in the streets for it.
You know, I wouldn't call that a peaceful transfer of ideas.
It happens all the time. History's littered with it. And sometimes everyone's got their line. If a guy breaks into your house and threatens your kids and he's got a bat, you will physically do whatever it takes to wipe that dude out. You'll do it because you want to protect your kids. Well, for some people, that's the only line. For other people, they're like, well, they're coming after my kids because my daughter has leukemia and we are $4 million in debt and cannot even afford our house payment.
and we're now going to be homeless because we can't afford her treatments.
We're just going to have to let our daughter die.
Is that your line?
Like I get, you know, I don't want to get in the head of one individual who did a thing,
but I get why this line is going to be different for people who have experienced this sort of thing.
And if you haven't, well, then you're coming from, like Wendy said, a position of privilege.
And you know what?
I don't wish it on you.
I hope you never have to deal with it.
I hope you never have to even.
That's how it should be.
That's how it should be.
I hope you never have to deal with it.
But there's a very good chance you will in some way.
And I don't care what party you're in.
This thing has no party.
You may think they do, but they don't.
There's no party to this.
This is, everyone is screwed.
So if you have a conservative dude in Texas,
has lousy insurance with his companies with,
a hardworking guy,
I've been doing it is all live, contributing to it.
It doesn't matter.
He's going to get screwed just as easily as some,
you know, lefty living up
Maryland and has the same bad luck to fall him with some cancer diagnosis or something
else. Like we're all in this. We got to stop separating that and going, it's each other's
fault. Red blue. No, this is like a, speaking of universal, right? This is a universal health care
problem. Universally, it's ours. So I'm just saying he shouldn't have killed a dude,
but I get why he did it. Also, to answer, I've avoided answer.
your question. I don't have a way to solve it. I have no idea. I got no slash.
I mean, you illustrated it for sure. And one thing to think about, and this feels like we're
all Florida now, right, which is cancer rates, I mean, one out of every two people will
experience cancer sometime in their lifetime. And 70% of cancer people who get cancer will
survive, right? We're doing good on the treatment. But if you, all your life savings is gone.
that's a rough survival, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And what cause, you'll survive, but at what cost?
What cost?
And then the cancers that can give you five years of life with great treatment.
Like there's, this is, health is coming for everyone.
And when you're, you know, young, you don't maybe feel it quite the same.
But you do when you get older and you maybe spend an afternoon in a hospital with a loved one.
And you have some realizations of just what it takes to keep us going.
and and then not to feel like we can be insured anymore in a way that feels doable is just
simply not sustainable for, you know, and that's what's maybe interesting about this too
is just the swath of people because everyone can relate, for the most part, I'm sure
there's people who can't, but people have had moments where their insurance covers it and
they're like, oh my gosh, I'm so grateful because you'll sometimes see the real numbers
and it is mind-blowing.
And so there's that piece.
Okay, Brian, you get a chance.
What's your solution?
I got nothing.
I mean, as Brian, Brian, I mean, thankfully Tina had amazing insurance and stuff,
but you've been through a situation where it's all just luck and happenstance
that you guys were in the position you were when it happened, right?
Totally.
If it were to happen a year from now, right?
Like who knows what that landscape is going to look like?
And would we have the same?
opportunities available to us that we that we had eight years ago when Tina was diagnosed.
Yeah, we should have, yeah, 2017 is that long ago now?
Yeah.
But it feels like we just should have, this shouldn't be, it shouldn't be a thing now.
It just shouldn't be a thing.
No.
Modern society shouldn't, there shouldn't be a thing.
Look, I get it.
The amount of money of, the amount of money on the line, because money is king, is what it will keep it this way for, and it will make it very
resistant to change. So that's why I don't have an answer.
Make it free. Yeah, make it free. That solves all our problems. I mean, yeah, it solves the
consumers' problems, but there's other things. Where do companies get that money? Taxes or is it
a federally funded? Or the exact system right now, give people the coverage you promise them when
they pay into you and don't find reasons to deny people and then hope they don't go talk to a prominent
paper and then go, oh, shit, better pay it so we don't get in trouble for this. Like, that's where
my beef, my biggest beef isn't that the system itself is inherently broken. You could make that
argument. My problem is, is that they are arbitrary about it. And they could cover things that they
don't because they just are like, man, we need our quota to be this. Like, it's, there's, the whole thing's
based on a profit system, not on a, we are a good, we are a good resource for people to count on
and trust if they pay into us, we pay out the claims. It's that simple. Like, auto insurance doesn't
cheat like this. They don't.
No. They don't come up with, well, your tire was under, slightly underinflated. So I'm sorry,
we can't cover this accident. You're, you're, you know what? Yeah, you had a condition.
I noticed, I noticed you spilled a slurpy in the back seat about a month ago before this
accident. It's in the bylaws. You can't. Like that was P from an invisible child. Exactly, right? Well,
when you lift, you, you do it. But anyway, the point is like that, that kind of nitpickiness is very
exclusive to health insurance and in some ways life insurance, mostly health insurance.
And why?
It's not hard to find out.
That kind of thing makes them tons of money.
I got a note from somebody who says, my sister is in the big insurance company fairly high up, has a massive house, makes a lot of money for this company.
And I don't remember the insurance.
It wasn't universal, somebody else.
This isn't just them.
They're just kind of notorious.
and she got really drunk one night at a party and said,
I'm responsible for at least eight people dying that I know of.
Oh my gosh.
And then kept drinking.
And I guess that house is big enough and cool enough and worth it enough.
Like, like that you have to have a certain kind of conscience to let that stuff slide.
Or none whatsoever.
Or none whatsoever.
It's really gross.
Like, it's disgusting.
And, but, but also it's, it's, it's systematic.
for that person they've slowly built to a place where now that's a thing it's not just simple as
one day your blood's on your hands it's a slow like you know i mean i couldn't live with that also
it just sounds like boring work and i would never want to do it but but but knowing that like
we just got a freaking i don't know man i'm not saying i'm not saying let's all go kill CEOs but
i don't know what the answer is not the solution but there has to be another one and to the point
of this whole discussion you can see why he had it in his head
that this was the only way.
That's all I'm saying.
I can relate to it and still condemn it.
That's all I'm saying.
And as a young person, we have enough research on how they think about things and how they
have less hope in their own futures than any generation before them, both, you know,
the average get your first house in America now, you're age 37.
That is old compared to what every other generation before could do.
And so you start to have less and less, bait in some system they're asking.
you to put all this trust in and all your money towards and you're like and then like my mom can't
get any care or you know whatever it might be like there's there's more desperation again french
revolution um but there is i think there's another factor here that i think is important because i
know there's a european listening who's like well we pay high taxes um and you don't even know
and sometimes i have to wait for things and i just want to let all all of them know how much
I have to wait for things and pay for it.
By the way, that's a thing.
But it's very much like this solution for the United States
is not going to look just like any European country
who started a very different thing
and have their own issues, right?
This isn't a direct, direct comparison.
But it is cruel to our citizens
to allow such unbelievable wealth
go to the hands of a few while you're harming the many.
And that right there, I think, is the thing that, I mean, it just has to change.
I know this is not an answer, but ethics are just missing in so many places and holding
ourselves accountable and just, you know, I feel like the revolution really needs to be
a little bit more moral than anything else.
And I get it.
Once you have stuff, you don't want to give it up.
That's human nature.
So that giant house and you get drunk enough to tell her when you killed eight people, she went to
work Monday.
Yeah.
Like there is a...
She's still there.
There's going to your grave with something or, you know,
cognitive dissonance.
How do we handle it?
Well,
we go on fun vacations or have my houseboat.
You know what I mean?
Like there's a way that the rich will perpetually be able to tolerate that dissonance.
And we all have it a little bit, right?
But this feels so big at a moment.
So I'm interested to see if anything comes from it.
I have honestly thought.
on multiple occasions.
I want to quit my job and do nothing but fix insurance in this country.
You'd be a hero if you did.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
And this is when I was younger and had a lot more energy and was really, really,
really, really, really mad and getting really screwed all the time and feeling like just
like it was never going to be fair.
Obamacare really helped with that, like really helped.
And I love that no one, you know, they called it Obamacare to make it a bad thing and then
people forgot.
Yeah, no.
I have a neighbor who literally relies on the Affordable Care Act, but demands they get rid of Obamacare.
And you're like, honey shop.
So that's why I only refer to as Obama.
I know it's impossible to separate the politics of it.
That's just burned into it, that whole issue.
But it's just like, can we knock it off?
We're just, you know who's, I could go off on this for a long time.
We're just like, we're just so, we are so puppets to and pit it against each other.
to distract us from the real problem which is mega mega mega millionaire billionaires who just
want their way and the best way to keep us in line is to have us at each other's throats because
then we then we're distracted from what's really actually going on and I don't know the answer
I don't know the answer we're all oligarchy now we got it we got it going on man there's
tons of it sucks. I hate it. It's also historically accurate that we're repeating a lot of
mistakes that 300 plus year old, you know, empires make. And boy, it's sure fun having little
grandbabies you want to see do well all their whole lives and know that they're, you know,
I'm trying to be optimistic. And I am overall. I do think history is a rising road. I say it all the
time, I do believe it.
But man, some of the dips are dips.
Some of them are just like, what are we doing?
Yeah, go.
This is so small.
Hold on to the grains of sand.
You know, I've said, I spent a lot of time the week after the election just talking
with people about their own spheres, their actual power, you know, reminding
everyone of and this is on both sides by the way this isn't they also you know everyone's got their
own experience right and and was feeling frustrated even if winning right still feeling like
why won't my kid talk to me stuff like that right um and so i had a session the other day that
just warmed my cold dead heart with um a woman and her parents in their 80s and
And just had this lovely exchange about how their vote harms her and her queer child.
And we went into some facts and we talked about some feelings.
And, you know, they really genuinely don't know for sure if they thought Trump was a rapist or not, stuff like that.
You're like, oh, right, because you get your own news source, et cetera.
So we went through back and forth and everyone sort of, it was the most lovely, nothing's
totally solved, obviously, right, but it's people talking and caring more about their own
relationship and trying to understand one another and find common ground and heal.
And I just kind of thought I would never see that.
So that just felt really good.
And I say that because that's my little tiny sphere.
Because you're on the ground with what you have.
That's exactly right.
I believe in this big time lately.
It's like just you,
that's all you've got.
One place I can,
I can say I'm not letting that dude ruin one more family on my watch.
Right.
I'm not going to do it.
Right.
And it's,
it's hard work.
It is not the easiest conversations to have.
It's,
you know,
but it is,
it's something.
And so,
yeah,
I guess if there's anything here,
it would be to,
you know,
band together and let's all meet.
Just kidding.
No,
you know,
what is,
what's in your sphere?
What thing can you do?
What hope can you find?
I also recommend everyone just turn off all of their movies watching,
and especially around January 1st, and don't turn it back on.
I'm in full ignore mode.
I am so in ignore mode right now.
I'm not going to...
And then do the good, right?
Like, don't just ignore it and watch great TV,
because honestly, great TV is available.
There are some great TV.
There are some good stuff out there, sure.
Oh, my heavens.
But, yeah, but really do something with your energy.
Yeah.
do something good do it on the ground do it with who you got and quit fighting each other
freaking it's the only way this chance actually so my answer to your question is everybody stops
fighting each other and everybody puts their attention on fighting collectively and i don't mean
shooting people in the streets but fighting against these systems that are designed to divide us that's
all and one thing we um nobody knows here maybe we're hard at scale a mega wealthy but the mega wealthy
think they're part of this too.
Oh, sure.
Some of them do.
The feeling is like, yeah, let's get them.
And you're like, hold on, you're one of them.
No?
And that's part of this feeling that feels so universal is that it kind of touches, touches everybody.
Yeah, it touches more people.
I don't know any CEO is like, you know what?
I am better than everyone and I'm an oligarch and an overlord.
That's probably not what anyone's thinking.
They're like, I've got to get a bunch of reports done and go skiing aspen this weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
yeah and all i'm thinking is i got way too many shows today i hope i don't get cancer because
we're screwed if i get it yeah you really cannot no just take just take me if it happens i'll be
like all right well who's pulling the cord car take straws let's do straws carter got the short straw shoot
well she's not going to be happy about that but and the doctor's like scott it's it's just we can
remove it relax yeah and i'll say yeah for how much how much and we'll want my insurance coverage
All right. That's great. I love that, Wendy. All right. Well, as always, good stuff for people to chew on and think about. We'd love to hear your feedback on it. So keep that stuff coming. In the meantime, Wendy, as we hurdle toward the holiday. I hope you're feeling good about all that and having a good time. And I hope the kids are good and all that stuff. Anything else you want to say, promote, talk about anything else?
Yes. I mean, it's so close. Oh, my gosh. Something's very close. I probably have lied one billion times.
But February is truly the start date.
It's a magical time.
She's going to kick in the can.
She's good.
She's starting September.
Move to January.
Then I realized no one can start in January.
I can't start.
That's crazy.
So we're starting February.
All the things come and I will, you're never going to stop hearing about it once it's ready,
which will be probably next week or the week after.
Cool.
Yeah.
So no better you.
Right now there's a really lame landing page.
Real lame.
So just no.
That's not it at all.
Okay. And I will let you know the good stuff soon.
Excellent. We'll have a fantastic week.
We're going to see you next week. Next Thursday is normal Thursday.
Yeah, it's normal for me.
Okay. Yeah, the week after that, we're off.
But next week, we'll get one more chance with Wendy to see if we can change the world.
We'll see you then.
Okay. Let's do it.
All right. Good stuff. Get a little fired up.
But what are you going to do?
Yeah. A little fired up.
It'll be good. That'll be good.
I agree.
Brian, we're done.
Yes, sir.
However, things coming up today.
Coverville, let's talk about it.
What are you doing?
It's Christmas.
It's time for the Christmas episode.
So covers of Christmas songs, a lot of them by request, but some stuff that I jammed in there, including a cover by Robin Adele Anderson, a vocalist for one-time vocalist for Scott Bradley's Postmodern Jukebox.
Nora Jones, Ben Folds, Erasure, No Doubt, Kristen Hirsch, Ronnie James Dio.
Phantom Planet.
I mean, there's so much coming up
that it's hard to pick
what your favorite thing is
because it's all going to be your favorite.
That's coming up at noon,
Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.tv slash coverville.
And if you're playing some snap.
Oh, good.
That's awesome.
What deck you're playing with them?
My professor, it's called Professor Xavier is a jerk.
Oh, wow.
The reason it's called that is
because it's a famous Paul Smith
splash page from an issue of X-Men
where Kitty Pride is pissed off that she's getting relegated to the ex-babies,
i.e. the new mutants.
And not part of the full X-Men team.
And so the whole splash page of that issue is Kitty Pride looking at, you know, the viewer, the reader, and saying,
Professor Xavier is a jerk.
I mean, it kind of is in some ways.
Kind of is.
He does some stuff that he gets away with a lot because he's in charge.
But come on.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's a kiddie pride heavy deck that, yeah.
Well, let's say you don't like music and you're like, I'd rather hear about video games.
Well, then we have an alternative at noon, which is core.
So if you love music, coverville, do it.
If you love video games, do that.
If you love both, pick one and then watch the other one later or listen to the other one later.
Yeah, yeah.
But Core's at noon today as well.
And today's kind of an interesting day because we're going to do a regular episode at noon like normal.
And then tonight, I think 530 they start, 520 will start the stream.
We're going to do a live core co-stream.
the game awards this evening
and do that throughout its run
like we do every year. So if you would like
to do that, I'm going to be on air a lot today.
I'm trying to prepare myself mentally
for an exhausting coverage
day. We'll see how it goes.
So that's tonight 530 and of course
noon for Core, noon for Coverville.
All the best things happen at noon
today. So check out. People could easily
just have a nice little musical background
to Core and then just turn me off when I start
talking and turn it on, you know.
Yeah, some little background. Or pop
us. It's on YouTube so you can pause and it'll stay where you are.
So you can, even live, so you can listen to Brian talk for a second.
Back around the music. Hit play again. Off you go.
It's why we do it as podcast. Listen to them any time. Maybe you won't even have time to listen to either one today. Listen to them when you have time. They're fun. They'll be great. Both things. Awesome stuff.
That's right. And vote for us at podcast alley.com.
Vote for me in the podcast awards.
Labor or love, but maybe not this year. Maybe not this year. All right. That's going to do it for
for us. Big thanks everybody for listening. If you'd like to contact us, get a hold of us, do all kinds
of cool stuff, find it all at frogpants.com slash TMS. We will now leave with a song, probably a request.
I don't know. It is indeed a request. And I promised you some more metal. This is the medallist
of the metal. This is a request from Michael Power who says, I am turning 52 years old today.
That's December 12th. Every year past 50, I'm surprised that I'm still standing. I am trusting the
covermaster can play. I'm still standing, originally by Elton John, covered by Mystic
Prophecy. Mystic Prophecy! I don't know who that is, actually. I've never heard of him.
I don't either, but you're going to, boy, you're going to love it. It's heavy.
And then he asks, can I get a chicken cheddar ranch? And I say, even though he called it the wrong
thing, I still say we give him a tender crisp bacon cheddar wrench. Yeah, let's get that right.
It's a tender crisp bacon cheddar ranch. Pretty close, though. Close.
Pretty close. You got a couple of the words right. We'll give it to you.
All right, from their album, Monuments Uncovered from 2018.
Here is Mystic Prophecy, and I'm Still Standing.
Oh.
You could never know what it's like.
You blight like the wind of freeze, just like guys.
There's a cone only light that shines from you.
You're wind up like the way you hide.
behind the mask you use
And did you think this world could never win?
Well look at me, I'm coming back again
I got a taste of love in a simple way
And if you need to know while I'm still standing
You just stayed away
Don't you know I'm still standing
Better than I ever did
Looking like a true survive
Feeling like a little kid
And I'm still standing
I'm still standing after all this time
Picking off the pieces of my life without you on my mind
I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm still standing, yeah, yeah
Once I never could hold to win
You're starting down the road living me again
The threats you made were made to cut me down
If you're just a circus, you'd be a clown by now.
Don't you know?
I'm still standing better than I ever did.
Looking like a true survive.
Feeling like a little kid.
And I'm still standing after all this time.
Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind.
I'm still standing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm still standing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh.
Don't you know I'm still standing better than I ever did?
Looking like a true survive.
to survive, feeling like a little kid.
And I'm still standing after all this time,
picking off the pieces of my life without you on my mind.
I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm still standing, yeah, yeah.
I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm still standing
Yeah, yeah, yeah
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