The Morning Stream - TMS 2753: The Scott Crown Affair

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

You get NO root canal, NO implant, and NO Lieutenant Yar!! Scott Can't Handle The Tooth. Car Dealership With Drive-Thru Window. No-one Expects the Colorado Tornado. Breaking 2: Fire Boogaloo. Can you ...smell what my brake-pads are cooking. East Bound and SLOW DOWN. Bri Humbug! Takin' the poutine. Pay Up and Get the Cooler Thing. I give your temper tantrum 8 out of 10 big sweaters. Yahtzee or nazi. Little of the 'ol hug n tug. Too Pretty for Stitches. Being Transparent with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 No one expects the Colorado tornado. Breaking two, fire boogaloo. Can you smell what my brake pads are cooking? Eastbound and slow down. Bri humbug. Taking the bout team. Pay up and get the cooler thing. I give your temper tantrum eight out of ten big sweaters.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yotsie or Nazi. Little of the old hug and tug. Two pretty for stitches. Being transparent with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I don't like Taco Bell. Talk a Bell would make you take a poop. Yeah, if you talk a bell, it'll make you take a poop. Stop smiling on me!
Starting point is 00:01:00 The morning stream. If you don't want the silver, you got to take the lead. Hello, everybody. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for Tuesday, December 17th, 2024. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian I'm Brian Abbott. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Hello. Good morning. So you guys can see... The kiddie logins to my Michael McDonald. Nice. I don't know. I don't know who's who in this scenario. Oh, you got to see that thing I want to see.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I still haven't seen it. I'll talk about it tomorrow, but you still can't. You can see it. I'm not preventing you from saying it. I might see it just so then when you talk, I have more thoughts because it seems like a no-brainer to watch that thing. It's great. It is so good.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah. So even though, you know, Max is getting rid of Sesame Street, at least they still have good documentaries. at least they still have good doc umitory uh it's nice to see you all it's a wednesday or tuesday rather i don't know what day it is Tuesday is what it is and uh i have to go to the dentist again tomorrow now before all of you jump all over this back in 2012 i had a uh procedure done and they were it was this 50-50 deal where the dentist said my long 20 year dentist uh jeremy matthews dr jeremy matthews going to him forever trust him love him he's great everything he's ever done for me has been awesome solid no issues but he said in 2012 now we can either go full root canal on this thing because that is low and then build up on top of that or because you seem to be prone to root canals going haywire and i've had one of those do that before uh i think i can make this work without going that deep but it's going to be nice and low what that means is you won't have as big a little post or a stock
Starting point is 00:02:58 to build a crown around so he warned me then he says if we do that it would just it's just more prone to falling out you've got other crowns that'll never fall out but this one
Starting point is 00:03:10 you know you're going to have a higher percentage how do you feel and I said well I'd rather have that because I don't want to do another root canal was a nightmare for me so he said you know what I agree we're just going to have to watch it we can be careful with it and all of that
Starting point is 00:03:22 so that was 2012 he tells me this I get the thing here we are what are we 20 uh sorry 12 years later 14 or uh 12 years 12 yeah yeah 12 years later so 12 years later so 12 years later yes yeah so 12 years later i have now i'm now on my eighth time it has fallen out having this thing put back in yeah and then the other day it only fell out just because i was doing um uh water pick is all nothing big it was just like a s and where pink fell out almost went down the sink i had
Starting point is 00:03:52 grab it real quick and catch it in my hand so i got to go in there tomorrow morning and have them redo it. So now I'm presented with this thing. So we know about we know this is an issue. He knows. I know. Yeah. Nobody's complaining. Like when it doesn't break, you just put it, we do a re-sement. He doesn't charge me. It's fine. If I have to do a new one, it's like another 800 bucks or something. Sure. I'd really like not to do that. But I'm at a crossroads where I'm like, all right, do I want to spend the rest of my life wondering when that thing's going to pop out again? Yeah. Exactly. It's like a, it's like a constantly resetting, ticking time bomb. Let me ask you this. Obviously, a root canal is worse than any one of these times you've had it
Starting point is 00:04:34 replaced. Well, and that's where, and that's, and that's, and that's, won't, that can't even do it now. The root canals off the table. Oh, it's off the table. I have two, I have two options, basically. I can keep crowning this or I can, well, three, I guess. Keep crowning it. Fully extract it and just not have a tooth there. Or fully extract it and then put an implant in there. Very expensive. I'm leaning toward, if I'm picking one, one, I'm leaning toward extraction and just not have a tooth there. I'll just not have a tooth there. I got no tooth right there.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yes, and this one's my rearest. Mine's my rearest, and who cares back there, right? Yeah. Like, no one sees that tooth. No one's going to be looking at that thing. So I'm this close to just saying, Dr. Matthews, please just dig it out. Take it. Take it out.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Take the tooth. Take it out and eat it. You know, the funny thing, too, is it like, it's almost, like right now you think, oh, Scott, how sensitive is your tooth because you had lost a crown? Not at all. It's like the nerves have receded after eight years of re-cementing and all this. Like, I just don't feel anything there. Part of me is like, just keep it like this and not worry about it and just keep it clean, but I don't think that's a good idea and get an abscess or something. But then if that happens, extract it. You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe I don't give a shit, Brian?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Well, Scott, you're at luck because, you know, you know a guy who does 3D printing. And, you know, even though maybe he does. doesn't quite get the colors to come out at the right places and accidentally puts a layer of gold on top of the layer of blue on the top of this thing and then doesn't get the red on in time to do the letters, which you can kind of barely see there. I can still do a tooth for you. Sure, sure. A 3D printed tooth, whatever you need, just jam it in there. Can I get an orange one, like a bright orange kind of color? Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I've got silk filaments. I've got rainbow filaments. I've got glow in the dark filaments. Rainbow? That'd be great. I'd be a great ally to my gay friends if I got a rainbow. You would be exactly. You'll be able to say, oh, no, no, look, I am an ally. Look. Yeah. I can say, oh, man, this is, I'll screw up and revert to my 80s self and go, oh, this is so gay. And then a gay friend, a gay friend will go, oh, and I'll say, hey, look at this, though. And I'll show them the two. Right, right. Perfect. Yeah. See, there you go. You've got this well thought out right there.
Starting point is 00:06:53 All right. Sucks, though. I hate it. So, yeah, I would say pull the tooth and, uh, I think. I think that is. I, you know, as much of a pain in the butt as that is, it's probably the right move. Plus, I have no vanity about this. You and I are, you know, a stage in our lives where do we really care if one of these goes away? Like, I can still chew. I got all the rest.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's fine. Yeah. Who cares? I think I'm getting rid of it. I think that's what I'm doing. Who cares? I might, you know what I might do? This might be the last, just to get a little more mileage out of the 800 bucks I spent on this particular crown.
Starting point is 00:07:23 The last time they had to rebuild it. maybe I'll one more cement and then I'll just say to him even I'll say all right next time this falls off which we know is inevitable it could be a couple of years it could be months we don't know when that happens you can just take it out and he'll go he'll probably say yeah that's probably the best thing and we'll all move on now his brother who works there would sure like me to spend another you know three grand on an implants yeah of course he would because he's big on the implants he's always asking me you want him you know we can do implants I'm like, yeah, I know. I'm not, you know what? The substance is a great example, this movie. Of doing your own dental work. That's all I'll say about that. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Oh, gosh. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, that's the deal. Brian, we got a call. You know, you were talking about Etsy having a limit on time, how long you could have a thing up or something. What was the deal? I can't remember how we said.
Starting point is 00:08:19 What was the deal? It was, um, uh, you could only keep. Oh, how long, how long I can have a, from the time somebody purchases or purchase purchase purchase purchase uh purchase uh from the time somebody purchases something that i sell to the time i have to ship it is a is a limited time i've got things i think to the max to um give me time to airbrush i've got a marvel snap frame right now that i'm working on that um that i'm going to have to airbrush today and do the the manual painting and stuff like that so okay it's it's you know it's but you've got kind of a limit
Starting point is 00:08:55 So either you have something in stock or if it's buy to order to... It's made to customize. There you've got. Yeah, you've got six or seven or five or six days. Well, this person wrote in to sort of go deeper on that. So I'm going to play it. Okay, cool. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Hey, you guys were talking about epi sales and how you can only do six days. Standard is like six days. You change it to custom. You push it out so like two plus weeks. So that might help you, Brian. Oh, I don't know that. You can... So you do custom, we do two.
Starting point is 00:09:25 plus weeks. Wow. That's like old school, man. That's not bad. I wonder, yeah. And you know what? That gives me, here's the problem, Scott. Right now, I'm able to get it done in six days and get it out the door and all that stuff. Right. If I do two plus weeks, I'm going to wait until four days before the two plus weeks is over before I have to ship. And that's what I'm doing two-year-bush.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Let's be honest. I actually did figure out, like, I wonder if I can. you show it real quick yeah let's see it give me one second yeah run over there and grab it you can probably hear us the whole time he's got those awesome headphones um while brian grabs that can you imagine the first we're not that far from this the the the crowns you get now are 3d printed in a way they're milled um but there's a future where you know a lot of your dental work could you could do it at home i only make eyes that kind of stuff you just make your own teeth I only make tea.
Starting point is 00:10:26 All right, so here is an example of one of the frames. This is an unpainted frame. This is one that I did for Enara to use as an example. But it's got your power and your energy up top and then a little, either a logo down at the bottom or on some of these for less. I do just a user username box. For those at home, these are Marvel Snap frames. Based on Marvel Snap. Yeah, based on the frames on the cards of the game, Marvel Snap.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Right. Very cool. I have to do, yeah, you get a custom one for frog pants. Yeah, love it. What I have to do is I paint the, spray paint the whole thing or prime the whole thing. And then I tape off, actually, before I tape things off, I paint the frame, airbrush the frame. And a lot of people now want what's called ultimate. No, it's not called ultimate.
Starting point is 00:11:18 What is it called? It's whatever the infinite, so infinite frames, which is this really cool swirl. looks like it's in space, Kirby dots, um, uh, Dr. Strange purple smoke
Starting point is 00:11:32 mixed with bright, reflective red and blue and all that stuff. It's like, it's really cool when it's in motion because you've, and in the game because it, it gives off an aura. So half, half of the color around it is this aura around it and not actually on the frame.
Starting point is 00:11:48 The frame is almost, the frame is almost reflective and the frame is reflecting all the colors around it. So the frame itself probably just a really shiny black. But I have to make it look like it's reflective and all that stuff. So after I airbrush the frame, then I tape off the frame and I airbrush the power and the energy crystals at the top. And then I also paint the bottom where the username is. It dawned on me. This is the first time I'm going to be doing it like this, but I could print the frame itself separately.
Starting point is 00:12:24 and airbrush it and have no worry about what paint is going where just airbrush the whole dang thing the way you need it and then i've got the individual um power and energy and all that stuff how far out would you protrude those like create like a i created a little a little shelf oh that's great um whole so these will uh just clip on but they'll be glued so they don't come off yeah but they'll just you know basically just like snap right onto the frame. I'll need to do a little bit of sanding just to get things the right thickness. But it's like old Disney animations. They used to do those weird machines to create a sense of depth or parallax scrolling. They would have foreground, background, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And to the flat image, it looked like it was just, you know, it created that illusion of 3D. But if you pull it out, it was like this long tube or whatever. You're basically creating a mini version of that where you create depth just with a couple of inches or a half inch here and there. that's a really cool idea.
Starting point is 00:13:25 There's really no big difference at all in the final product. Like basically this will snap on exactly like this user box on the bottom. That just snapped right on in exactly the same place that it is on the frames when I have them all printed as one piece. So do you have to glue that to keep it there? Yeah, I'll glue it to keep it on. Yep. But at least I can manually, at least I can take this, paint it, get the lettering right,
Starting point is 00:13:53 when it's all set, spray it with some polyurethane, and then glue it on there. And if something goes wrong, I don't have to redo the whole frame. I can just redo that piece of it. Yeah, redo the name, if it's the name or something. That's awesome. Look at you going all modular over there. I'm working smarter, not harder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Scott is basically what it is. Yeah. Just so everyone knows the filament will still be hard when you get it, but Brian has improved the method. That's right, exactly. As to how to get it on there. That's great. I don't know why I didn't think to do this sooner because it does seem like a no-brainer as I look at this and say, yeah, there's really no reason that those can't be separate pieces.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I think it was like, oh, I'm saving so much time by printing all this on one. It's like, oh, no, you know, print them separately and glue them and nobody will be able to tell the difference. Yeah, and if you get, if you had an order of, I mean, let's just say you're starting to get an order of five to ten of these a week as an example. Yeah. You could pre-print all those frames and just have them ready to go. I could, and I might just print a few extra frames, have them. ready so that as soon as the order comes in, I can start airbrushing those while it prints the custom parts, which are the name and the numbers on the gems.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And it doesn't matter how big their name is, right? Because you'll scale that, but still fit on the thing. Yeah, exactly. This is a locked, a fixed size for the name box. So far, nobody, and I think it's just, there's extra price involved because I have to go back and work with the buyer and stuff and creating a logo. but nobody's bought the logo version like nobody said kind of like what you have and what chuck and amy have is a customized logo for them yeah they've got the robinsons and you've got frogpants
Starting point is 00:15:36 with a game controller and it's modeled after the kind of things they do on snap with the character's name right and so far nobody's bought any of those but you know that's all right yeah it's okay it's okay but it's there and you thought of it and it's awesome so people should do it all right yeah pay up Pay up and get the cooler thing. Pay up and get the cooler thing. We also got a call from James the Trucker. Always happy to pipe in on trucker issues. We had that break fire we talked about a couple, a few episodes ago.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's got the skinny on what actually happened. It turns out it's a little different than we thought. So here it is. Hey there, shift and break. It's James the Trucker. I did in south on US 69 through Oklahoma. I did take a look at the picture and the story.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And that was not a downhill break fire. That was a mechanical problem. So I looked at the picture, and it looked like he was going uphill. I looked at the map, and he was either going uphill or on flat ground, and with it being a mechanical problem, he probably had an air leak that was causing his e-break to drag on the trailer, which is what caused that fire. So, nitpicky, but, you know, just the head's up. That was not a downhill break.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Love the show. Okay, so in my head it was like somebody's breaking, like you do when you go down. from the canyon in one of our towns and you're like you got to pump it from snowbird for example where you're you feel like you're keeping your foot on the brake the whole time or else you go careening off the side of the mountain yeah and you have to learn like this is something they taught me and i was real young you had to learn to pump at the right times because you would you'd start to smell your brake pads and you know start to kind of burn from the friction so that's what i pictured is somebody just going and just grinding their brakes but it sounds like it was
Starting point is 00:17:16 some whole other thing that was causing i mean the brakes were involved but not the way you thought So I like it when one of you guys who knows shit calls in and clears things up. Thank you. Yep. Thank you for that. It's awesome. Good job, James. Yeah, it's super cool.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, be careful around Oklahoma. Those guys, they don't like people from Texas. I'm not saying he's from Texas. Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Oakeys, they call him, I guess. That's right. Yeah. Also, big news, everybody.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Minus one important factor, which is what is our prize package. We're working on that right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I promise you it'll be worth it. We are launching today, officially, I'll show you the website here, the TMS 32nd Film Festival. Oh, I should have music for that. Let's play that there.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It is happening now. It means you can submit them now, but we've got a lot of time. You don't have to have anything to us until the cutoff date, which is the 31st of January. I put all of the rules and the actual entry form up, and it's available now. So we'll be able to take entries just as soon as you would want to submit yours. It is easy to do. All you got to do is go to the website. That website is frogpants.com slash film fest.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And all the details are there. It tells you how long it has to be, all the rules. You know, it's stuff like no nudity, no graphic violence. That makes sense. Don't make offensive or defamatory material. And we're not weird. Like if we get something when we think something's a little questionable, we'll come back to you and say, hey, this may not.
Starting point is 00:18:51 work do you want to do an edit or whatever we're not going to be but exactly and keep in mind folks this this this this can have long-lasting repercussions in the in the frogpence world i'll have you know remind you that i can definitely see why you like it came from one of our 30-second film festivals yep it was part of that so you never know what you may immortalize yourselves with whatever you end up doing you might exactly you might be the next test the ship's phasers yeah the next hung oh yeah you never know i said on here that uh let's see where is it um um uh see here it is film should be original works created by the submiters use of copyright content all that stuff uh down here judging criteria creativity and originality originality and
Starting point is 00:19:36 depicting the creation of a tMS meme effective storyline with the 30 second time limit production quality sound visuals editing adherence to the festival's rules all of those things that's it those are the criteria who the judge judges are we're not saying yet it won't be just me and brian uh we'll have additional judges and votes and the forms really easy you just fill out your name your email a link to your unlisted youtube video uh there's a little question about who made it just me a team of people and other and that's good to note because if it is you know you group it up with like three or four of you totally fine whatever you want to do yeah uh you paste your link in here you submit it there's a place
Starting point is 00:20:12 for comments if you want to it's optional uh we keep none of this information it's just for the film festival and it's up there and ready to go so go uh hop in there when you've got your film obviously don't go just post some random thing because we're not you know that's the whole idea is that these are all this is a unique thing that you made for the film festival 30 seconds as your limit if the credits make it go over that's okay but the content itself within 30 seconds and uh other than that creativity rules whatever you want to make so uh check it out frogpans.com slash tm or sorry frogpants dot com slash film fest and we'll make sure it's linked on the website and all the other stuff so watch for it you have till january 31st get on it good luck everybody yeah that'll be fun the
Starting point is 00:20:57 um i think that's also how we not really how we first knew about bill but it was one of the first things we ever heard or saw from bill is his his wolverine waking up in the morning video yep i think that would have been let's see he came to an artacular 2010 but i think he'd been listening to the instance before that but the first time we really saw him like creative chops wise yeah was photos at nerdtacular he did that booth right and then that wolverine movie and it was awesome was the movie so the movie was uh after he'd come to ner tech yeah because 20 because with the show we didn't start this show till 2011 but he wasn't doing a um oh that's true yeah he wasn't doing a segment yet for sure um and he blew us away with that thing he won that year didn't it was so good i think so yeah
Starting point is 00:21:43 I think Bill won. He can't compete. Side burns, the mutton chops, the blades that he created. It was so good. Monica, you might be a judge. We haven't decided. You could be a judge. You never know.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Sorry, Brian, go ahead. Oh, no. I was going to say, it looked like he filmed in some shed, you know, near his house in Seattle, somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. Which is perfect. Does it look like, you know, kind of fall Canada? To be Canadian. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Canadian Wilderness Weapon X. Yeah. Watch out for Colonel. Not Riker. What's his name? Who's the evil colonel up there? Oh, Stryker. Stryker.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's what I meant. It's Riker with an S.T. It's Riker with a street. Brian Cox. Amish Overlord asks, what if someone use the AI for the film? Listen, you know, we'll be able to tell and we'll judge it accordingly. Yeah. I'm not even saying you shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I'm not even saying you shouldn't. If it's a tool you can use and it makes sense for what you're trying to portray, it's not a problem. It's all right. And if you're not able to do other things, You know, because, like, I don't have any editing talent or I don't have any filming or a way to film it or whatever. And AI is your only way to convey your method. I mean, we'll judge it accordingly.
Starting point is 00:22:54 It'll be judged along with everything else. Right. And we'll keep an open mind about that. Like, some of my favorite stuff in AI is the weird videos that you can't predict. I love that shit. It's so weird. It's so weird. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:23:07 There's this trend on TikTok right now of this little dog who's got an apple in his mouth and I think I think the whole origin was somebody has this picture of a dog in an apple field apples all over the floor or the grass and he's got one apple in his mouth that's the photo and then they took this photo and then everybody takes turns making it turn into some video and they're insane I can't predict them I don't know where they're going they always do something that just blows my mind it's like the one piece of AI that doesn't irritate me I like that stuff or at least God enjoy your TikTok while you've got it Oh, yeah, it's gone soon, right? Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. It feels too big. Like, it feels like somebody's going to spend a lot of money and buy it or keep it or something's going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I just don't know how you do that in the biggest market. I guess China's the biggest market. Or no, it's banned in China. You can't even, TikTok doesn't even, that's the funny thing. Everybody thinks this is some weird thing of the Chinese government. And maybe it still is, but Chinese people are technically not allowed to look at TikTok. I didn't know that. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Or there's some age. Like there's some, there's some version of it, like that, which is why the, the symbol looks like it does. Oh, I don't know. All I know is the guy, the Singaporeans, it's based in Singapore. So the TikTok we have is not the version they? Oh, so TikTok has a different version in China, says KT data. What's that called? Kevin, I'll be curious.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But anyway, yeah. Oh, dude, if Elon Musk bought it, I. I'd be just like a check out. I don't like a guy that just struts around throwing money at everything. I don't like it. Dewey and that's right. Dewey in, which is why the logo looks like a D. Oh, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Was it Dewey in first and then TikTok was a split out? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, whatever it is, and, you know, regardless of the politics around it, uh, it's, I'll, I'll go on. I'll live. my heart will go on in some other yeah it's not a big deal who cares yeah even if even if no one else did it like i'm not i've lived most of my life without it it's a fun distraction but i'll be all right
Starting point is 00:25:22 yeah yeah anyway uh we look forward to your submissions get those coming can't wait to see them absolutely gonna be great let's uh let's do some uh let's do some news it's time for the news brought to you by want to hear about what it takes to build an mMO from the ground up in a very transparent and fascinating way. Great news then, because word on the street hosted by Scott Johnson and Greg Street is exactly that. New episode today. Get the details of frogpants.com slash street or all the places you can get podcasts. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:56 We record today at noon and it's going to be good because they put up their weird pre-alpha video and they got a lot of, got a lot of Q&A going on about that. Oh, cool. Excellent. It's going to be fun. all right let's get to this first story here we got an angry car buyer this video speaking of TikTok went extremely viral on TikTok and it happened right here in my own backyard well not my backyard city over anyway angry cab buyer car buyer demanded refund drove his vehicle into a sandy dealership storefront I grew up in
Starting point is 00:26:28 sandy so I know where this area even is this dude was pissed and was refused a refund for a vehicle he bought at the Mazda Southtown earlier in the day. This is a mall we used to take. The Southtown's an area, but the mall, the Southtown mall is in place we took our kids all the time and they were little. So it's a dealership with a drive-thru window, you're saying? It does now. It's got one now. He wanted a refund. So, let's see, early in the day, returned with a vengeance late Monday afternoon and smashed his way into the dealership showroom. A video was obtained by Gephart Daily. That's that guy I told you about who's like, uh, get, get, get part. He'll go and figure out what, what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:27:07 the local news digger guy I don't know what that Every town has a guy like that Or every city right Every affiliate has a guy who's Well I'm gonna find out what's really going on At the local thing and that's this guy Anyway it shows the moment the car
Starting point is 00:27:23 Barreled into the building This is 107th South The Auto Mall there And anyone any locals will know where that is Kevin don't know where this is Holy poop I'm watching this video right now Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:33 His words were I told you huh I warned you mother effers he says and here's the video chat i reason the lobby that's just a photo oh my god wow here we go let's see pulls in wham and that's just one of the shot there's another one that's much uh it's much it's shortly after it on that same video oh there it is yeah there it is that's the one i saw on tick to and then he gets out holy crap and then he gets out starts i warn you mother effers yeah i'm wearing the biggest sweater you
Starting point is 00:28:07 ever saw. I'm going to throw it. It goes down to my knees. Rolls up his sleep. I mean, look at him. That's a guy who's walking like he knows he's effed now. Yeah, exactly. He's got a look on him that says.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Right. It's like, uh, you know, maybe I have a anger management problem. This is not, maybe, maybe this was too big a, uh, a response. They don't actually get in, or maybe they do. Let's see. Doesn't look like you'd be buying a little, little Mazda hatchback. maybe that's why he's returning it yeah maybe that's it they don't really get into why he he did it he like why he's were so pissed about the refund or not getting one or why it was denied
Starting point is 00:28:48 like what did he you know i imagine uh buyer's remorse or something he just decided no you know what i decided this isn't the car for me sorry sir all sales are final well here's a here's an update says the affidavit said monday or sorry murray this is the guy's name had returned to the deal ship to request money back and to return the vehicle however staff advised Murray at the time. He bought the vehicle as is and could not return it for an exchange or a refund. Then he left and then just
Starting point is 00:29:15 came back. It seems a little extreme. It does. I know what as is means when I buy it something. Exactly. You inspect the car. You figure out and if it's a he's claiming it's a lemon it doesn't really say what
Starting point is 00:29:32 specifically is the problem with it. It seems like it drove okay. See, exactly. The brakes don't work. Yeah, it seems like it, it seems like it got through that building pretty well. The shield is a little cloudy. I can't see it too well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:48 So he's in big trouble. They're going to charge him with, let's see, they say criminal mischief and like four other things. No felonies, but he's in trouble. You know, there's no way for him to have known if somebody was up there and slightly out of sight. He hit desks and tables and things. Somebody could easily have been behind that desk out of sight. Yeah, you can hear people in the video going, is anyone under it?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Is anyone under there? And they're like, no, he missed. Jeez. So somebody, it's like a reception area, and somebody just happened to not be there. Yeah. Like, he could have killed somebody, easy. Well, I'm going to guess he's probably not getting the car.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He probably won't have to get that car back. No. He's not going to get his money. But my guess is that that car will not be returned to him. No. It'll probably be impound. he probably will not have any there's no insurance company in the world
Starting point is 00:30:40 access to it for I don't know six to eight months get behavior if he's lucky I mean I would almost they probably have I don't know if they've done it but I would charge
Starting point is 00:30:52 I would probably charge him with like what do you call it not manslaughter because you have to actually have killed someone but right it's the what is the like attempted
Starting point is 00:31:03 or attempt not attempted it's where you don't We're at reckless endangerment or something. Probably that or something like that. Yeah. I think you go all the way. Just give this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah. Throw the Mazda at him. Yeah. Throw the whole book at him. The weirdest part for me is he gets out of the car, yells his big statement. A little diatribe. Yep. Takes his stupid sweater off.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Throws it on top of the car, starts to leave. Comes back, gets a sweater, and then leaves. I think, I don't, I wonder if he was really leaving or if it was just like, Like he's just kind of stomping around waiting for somebody to approach him so that he can beat him up. I'm guessing that that wasn't, he wasn't about to leave as much as he was going to stay there and fight anyone who wasn't going to give him his money back. Yeah, I think he even says, he even says call the cops. Like he's going to wait there for the cops. But, you know, if it gets like a, huh, he's the kind of guy that would smash a TV because his DVR got something wrong, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Because it's blinking 12. Why is it keep blinking 12? Yeah. You don't want to be around. those people. That's right. It didn't record. And why do he think that this wouldn't be like, of course people are going to film it? We've all got high-deaf cameras in our pocket.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Like, of course. Someone's going to see this thing in the parking lot, whip out their phone, which is what happened two different angles. Like, he's screwed. He's done. Yeah, he's totally screwed. Well, I'm glad he got a sweater back. All right. Let's move on to this story. British.
Starting point is 00:32:34 We had totally lifted its head and looked at me like, Do I need to move? Are you good? Do I need to get out of here? Oh, because you're a little spin out there. Is my impersonation of the dude's little stompy diatribe? I love it. Cats are like, oh, shit. Is there something I need to know about? She's a big heavy cat, though. She realizes that it would be a lot more effort to get up and move. Well, I see you're moving down the corner there. Have you made any progress on your new perch you're going to make for her?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Oh, I don't have to make it. The perch is right there. It's elsewhere here in the basement. So it's less about making it and more about clearing the top of this off, clearing enough in the inside to move it several, you know, a few feet. That all sounds like so much work, you know. It does. It does not, it does not, it does not sound fun. But I don't know, the idea of having the cat on screen right next to me right here, I think it'd be kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I had all kinds of plans this month to, like, do Christmas crap behind me. Yeah. I just couldn't get the gumption. I couldn't do it. We're just not putting up a tree. We've decided it's, you know, it's whatever. A week till Christmas, no tree up yet? Yeah, we're not going to have a tree this year.
Starting point is 00:33:45 This will be the first year. No tree for the first time ever? The first time ever. And actually, since Tina, I've been married for sure. And I don't know if we had a tree, if we did tree stuff when we were dating and living together and stuff. But yeah, this will be the first time no tree. Oh, my gosh. I found a photo of you this month.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You want to see this photo of you? Let's see. There is. That's about right. There is, you guys. See, the thing is, I know that you're not Scroogey about it. It's just, I get it. Like, it's all happening so fast.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite adaptation of Scrooge? Just curious. Or the Christmas Carol. Up at one, same. Yeah, I like that one. I like that one. George C. Scott, I like the
Starting point is 00:34:36 the one man Picard, not Picard, Patrick Stewart one. Yes. Yeah, that's a good one. And I kind of like the animated Jim Carrey one. It's okay. I guess the Michael King one is the Muppet one. Yeah, Kane's the Muppet one, I think. Yeah. There's one from when we were kids.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Was it Jason Robards? No, who was it? Just freaked me the F out. It had this weird clinging music in between commercials. Oh, God, really? It was haunting. I didn't like it. And I, and I will be the lone voice on this show that defends Scrooged because, because of the, the, the actors and actresses in that, Carol Kane and, um, and, uh, uh, uh, is it Tom Waits, is he, you know, who's, um, the New York Dolls guy, Buster Point Dexter. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and Bill Murray, of course. And High Point, Buster point. Everything else, it's phone, everyone's phoning it in, especially Bill Murray. Oh, man. You know what?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Maybe I need to see again, because it really has been 15 years, I think, since I've seen Scrooge. And look, you may watch it and go, no, this is great. Scott's up a tree. I'm happy to, I'm happy to be in the minority on this one. Happy to be up a tree. Yeah. If I'm in the minority, it's 100% fine. But I just, I can't watch it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I try. I can't. Yeah. I don't know why I don't like it, but I don't like it. Anyway. It's streaming anywhere. It may be a non-issue if it's not stream. anywhere. Is this the one? This might
Starting point is 00:36:05 be the one. Oh, Alastair Sim, this is the one. Okay, I don't know if you remember this, but when we were kids, this was on a lot. This old ass one here. And it freaked me out. I did not like this one. The VCI Vote Classics. This thing gave me the Willys. It's not good for me to watch that. Leonard Moulton, let me look at those staring eyes of the ghost behind it. I know. Is that Marley?
Starting point is 00:36:32 that's Marley I think Yeah probably Looks like Prime Video by the way Is where I can watch Oh in Paramount Plus Oh well Where I can watch Scrooge right now I might watch it
Starting point is 00:36:41 I was gonna say I watch it this afternoon But I've got I have A hundred and ninety eight songs Covers that came out this year That I need to pare down to 40 That's a lot It's a lot
Starting point is 00:36:51 It is I gotta listen to them all Scott Yeah we don't have free time I don't have free time You know what we've done We've created these What is even what is even free time I don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:37:00 I can't define it I don't have it I don't know what it is. You know, Chris, we've got a tree. Thank goodness Kim put it up like a month ago. If I was in charge, I don't think I'd have a tree yet. Yeah. Do you want the perfect present for me for this year for Christmas?
Starting point is 00:37:13 An extra day where I'm not like insert an extra day in the calendar where I could do whatever I want, catch up with things, relax, play some Marvel rivals. Haven't played Marvel rivals in over a week. Yeah, I haven't had any video game time this week. That's the other thing. And it's a new Wow Patch Day. I got to play that. I don't have time for this. I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna find a way. You have to play one turn in code names. You basically have to
Starting point is 00:37:36 click two squares and code names. You know what I need to do is get it on my, they sync, right? If I have it on my phone. Okay. I need to just get it here because this is always with me. And then I have no excuse. But right now it's on my iPad and I just keep forgetting to check its notifications. It's right there. I keep forgetting to check my notifications. Okay. Okay. Things will never be the same again. I assume that was featured in the thing you're going to recommend tomorrow. Of course it was. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Like, interviews with freaking Michael McDonald and, you know, well, I'll talk about it more tomorrow. But I'm done giving Michael McDonald's shit. The dude is, the dude, I can't argue with the greatness of the song, what a fool believes. It's a great song, yeah. It is the best yacht rock song and even might be in the top 25 best songs of all time. Oh, my. That's high praise.
Starting point is 00:38:34 High praise. Yeah, yeah. I need to watch it. You need to watch it. Yeah. We get some Christopher Cross in there, I assume. Yes, Christopher Cross. It does not look.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Do you ever see Christopher Cross? Yeah, yeah. Long time ago, but, yeah. Okay, so you know what he looks like? I had no idea what the dude looked like. I pictured, really I pictured Boscags. Oh. Nothing like that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No. Christopher Cross looks like, like, WWE, looking dude. I like a retired wrestler, yeah. Yeah. You know what? That's perfect. He looks like a retired wrestler.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And when he was younger, when he was younger, he'd look like in his prime wrestler. He's always looked like a wrestler. But then he gets up on stage and says, sailing. Like he turns into a flower up there. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:39:21 He does. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. The British. He has been sailing. That's true. No, I've been to Africa.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I was totoe guys. They don't know what they're doing. Lots of toto talk because their fingers are all over different, different yacht rock songs that aren't even Toto songs. They put Chicago on that group grouping? No. No. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I wondered about that. There's a, oh, let's see. What is the website? It's Yotsie or Nazi? Yotsie or Nazi? I think that's what, Yacht or Nyat, I guess, is saying something is Nazi probably isn't so good. I like ears better, though. go to yotsie or nazi i like that yeah here you go the yacht or not website i'll just give it to you
Starting point is 00:40:05 right here in our discord please do um this is how things get scaled on the the hundred point scale of whether it's a yacht song yacht rock song or not oh wild yeah okay so duby brothers at a hundred with uh what a fool believes yeah what a fool believes is is the is the is the bar basically uh all the usual people here, Kenny Loggins, your usual suspects, Toto, Kenny Loggins again. Michael Jackson's human nature, interesting. Yeah. I guess that fits. Yeah, it does fit. Cross the ocean. Yeah, that song is actually a great pick. I just never thought of it before. Let's see. Steely Dan doesn't show up until, these are all incremental point values, but right. Yeah. Steely Dan shows up. They're 93.
Starting point is 00:40:58 FM is their most yacht rocky song, and it's at 93.75 out of 100. Sometimes they get jammed into the category, I think, a little unfairly. Oh, well, you'll hear about that in this film. Oh, good. One of my favorite bits of the yacht rock documentary. I'm not going to, I'm not going to spoil it. Okay, I'm into it. Trying to see who's at the bottom of this list.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Let's see. Oh, that's a good question. Goes forever. Here we go. It really does. Yeah. Oh, Eagles, Led Zeppelin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Three dog night. He goes a peaceful, easy feeling, not yacht rocking. Oak Ridge, boys. What? I like how it's color-coded. It's all red down here. And then as you scroll up, it gets greener. I'm kind of surprised.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Margaritaville by Jimmy Buffett's scoring. I would agree that it's not yacht rock. But boy, to have it at 2.75 out of 100 yacht rock level is surprising. The site's great. But you were asking about, who's the band you were asking about? Oh. Yeah, who did I ask about? Somebody, somebody,
Starting point is 00:42:03 oh, or who he asked about? Yeah, I asked if they were considered yacht rock and... Exactly, yes. Oh, oh, Chicago, yeah, yeah. Chicago, the highest they get is 60 and a half for their song Sunny Thing Twice. Oh, really? But hard to say, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Hard for me to say, I'm sorry. That's not considered the yachts? The shark right so far behind him, he has jumped it, cleared it, and bought the t-shirt is 32.75, Saturday in the park, 22.25. Baby, what a big surprise, 11.75. So Chicago, like, on the list, but the highest is a 60.5. It should be good or not is the website for that song, and that's not great. Although, when we were all teenagers, we were all slow dancing to it, we think.
Starting point is 00:42:57 thought, you know, this was a great way for Sally Sue to get a little bit of the old hugging, hug and tug. That's not right. I took that too far. I didn't mean that at all. Anyway, that's cool. Also, for those at home, that's yacht or not, and knot is spelled like yacht. Yeah. Nyacht.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, or Nyat and yacht. Yeah, exactly. It's pretty great. Way better than yachtsy or Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. Which is my new dice game or German dictatorship game. That's how you know the difference.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Is this Yotsie? Well, how many of the dice did you roll? Uh-oh, it's a Nazi. Right. Exactly. I have a link to the Spotify certified Yacht Rock playlist, which is like all the top songs. Certified by who?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Who does that? These guys, probably. Like, certified by the bands? By the website, this website grading system. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and there's a Yacht or Not podcast most recent episode. Oh, December 17th, episode 68. Oh, I haven't faded. It's pretty good. Unlike Yacht Rock itself, as far as new stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Because there aren't like new, nobody's making new yacht rock songs, right? Like, that's... There was a guy, there's a guy named Thundercat, who just did a new song that's in this documentary. did a song with Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald talk about, you know, but one of his genres is yacht rock. It's like funk, funk yacht rock. And I've not listened to anything. I've been meaning to listen to it since the documentary and check out Thundercat, but I kind of want to go listen.
Starting point is 00:44:40 He's creating new yacht rock style music. I think today I may do a little playlist-y list. Yeah, let me know how it is. Yeah, I like this stuff. British pubs. They're worried. They're worried they're going to run out of Guinness. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Oh, no. Yeah, climate change. No, I don't know. It's not climate change. At the sheep. I'd be worried, too, I'd run out of Guinness. I mean, look, if you're a place that sells a lot of Guinness, you don't want to run out. At the Sheephaven Bay Pub in London, tucked just behind Camden High Street, that's such a British sounding thing.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Guinness accounts for more than 50% of draft beer sales, owner Pat Logue, told CNN that this year he's already sold double the amount of Guinness that he did two years ago. Wow. The Irish stout known for its distinctive warm brown color. Warm brown. Warm brown color. That was my favorite yacht rock song, warm brown color. Creamy foam head and unique method of being poured a proper pint of Guinness takes
Starting point is 00:45:38 119.5 seconds to pourer. Is that true? Yeah, that's true because you don't, you can't just dump it into a glass. You have to tip the glass and then turn the glass. And if you have those special Guinness glasses that have little scalloped sides, like two little scallops on the inside, you pour between those, almost like shoulder blades to keep the, keep it from developing too much of a foamy head and also letting the bubbles rise. Gotcha. It's a really beautiful thing when you watch a glass of Guinness being poured. I like when there's a bunch of culture behind a specific thing like that.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I like that. Yeah, for sure. That's cool. I might have to go get some bottles of Guinness. I wonder if the bar I'm going to tonight has Guinness. I mean, they're running out, apparently, so grab one and get them. Oh, yeah, Trivia Night. Is it another one of the big weird end of year things, or is it just a normal?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Just a normal trivia night, but it's at the place where cheating runs rampant. Oh, yeah. I think we're, I think we might have turned a corner with that because they were not there two weeks ago. So I think somebody said something, maybe. Somebody might have said something. It wasn't me. No, it wasn't Brian. No, no.
Starting point is 00:46:50 He wouldn't do it. He's not a narc. Are you kidding? Right. Ratt on somebody. But also it'd be great if they were good. I don't want stitches is really what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Snitches get stitches. Exactly right. Too pretty for stitches. Yeah. Well, anyway, you can't get the beer over there. It's like super popular right now. Never been more popular. It's the highest, it's the most popular beer in all of Europe.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So they're having shortages and some of the pubs can't get them. so it's the uh you know it's the 7600 pubs in ireland that are using up all the guinness no kidding dude that was a crazy thing to learn yesterday done leftover done leftover for anybody else or sorry 71193 that might have been the craziest thing i had heard yeah that is a that is a that is a fun stat to share with people at the christmas table yeah as uh like hey take you guess at how many pubs do you think there are in ireland yeah whatever number whatever number you're about to guess is too is Yeah, I really like that. So we all learned something yesterday.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Today we're going to learn about a song. Brian's got prepared for our mid-show break here before we were bringing Bill in. So, Brian, let's play that song and tell us all about it. Yeah, this is a band called The Holy Knives. Oh, this is good. This is a song called Click, Click, Click. I'm trying to see if it's coming from an album. Oh, yeah, it's coming from an EP called I Don't Want to Win.
Starting point is 00:48:12 This is good. Reminds me a little bit of the Black Keys. Let's see. produced by Jamie Hintz from the kills they're going to have an EP release show in Los Angeles on January 23rd
Starting point is 00:48:27 so if you like this song and you're in the area go to Gold Diggers on January 23rd and go to the record release party, the EP release party Cody and Kyle Valentine otherwise known as the Holy Knives. Here's their single Killer. Oh, I don't want to win.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I just want to let go. Is it such a sin? To bar, bow, down, say no. Oh, I don't want to win. But put me in the game coach And I'll pull the pin And show these joe blows what goes Because I don't think I've
Starting point is 00:49:39 I've got no choice Give me a reason to rejoice I don't think you've got no horse in this face you'd better quit because I'm a killer baby Oh, I'm a killer baby I don't want to win I just want to let go easy to sin
Starting point is 00:50:34 to bar by dancing oh I don't want to win But I know you've got a hole A shit-eat-grin' grin On the plane, Jane Jane, no face alone But I don't think I've I've got no choice Give me a reason to rejoice.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't think you've got no horse in this race. Well, you better pray because I'm a killer, baby. Oh, I'm a killer, baby. I'm a killer, baby. baby oh I'm a good baby
Starting point is 00:52:13 So you think you're a killer, baby Try I don't want to win I don't want to win Hello, I'm just gonna Hello, I'm Frank Ormond, that means you've got pretzel fever And not the kind that attacked my intestinal lining some years back So let's get your franchise up and running.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Hey man, that's wrong. And we return. Tell me about that song again. Sure. That is The Holy Knives and a brand new single from their EP, I Don't Want to Win, called Killer. Whoa. That's hardcore. It's a killer song, Scott. It's a killer song. It's freaking hardcore, man.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It's what we do here. All we do is hard car. Hard car. Hard car. Hard car sarns. I ain't in the barrel. There it is. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Guess this guest. There's still something wrong, isn't there, Bill? Yeah, it's Bill Durand joining us. He does this a couple times a month because that guy is a prolific creator of all kinds of cool things. We were just discussing, Bill, how you won our, I think, our first film festival back in, like, 2011 or something. So, do you remember that, the Wolverine video and all that stuff? I do. It's still, it's not on my main YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I have a Builder and YouTube channel. I think it's over there. It's online if people want to watch it. Oh, yeah, you guys should check it out. Our first winner, we're launching another one, and we think fondly of your efforts. You kind of creamed everybody that year, if I remember. Yeah, you basically, you know, you set the bar high for that year's win. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Am I eligible for the new one? Yeah, hell yeah. You could do it. You know, we might, we might Hall of Fame or Honorable Mentioner. That sounds fair. I would absolutely take a submission from you, though. I'd love to see what you'd do. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And a reminder of the listeners, it's at frogpans.com slash film fest, and you can submit up to January 31st is your cutoff date. Bill, it's good to have you here, punish props, of course, your domain, and you always bring us something cool in the world of making stuff. What do you got going right now? I'm still working on my Bender project It's going to take a while So that's still rolling along
Starting point is 00:55:18 But I've got a little obsession I have a piece of tech That I'm kind of obsessed about And I've been using it in a lot of my videos When you were in middle school Sure The teacher had something to present to the class Was there a specific piece of tech
Starting point is 00:55:37 They would use to like Well we call that we call that an over an overhead projector with transparencies yes i got one oh my gosh please tell me it was like a used like school one or something you got to yes so i got it a while back it's been sitting in my shop and i recently found use a use for it but i was wandering around a goodwill and i got a screen like a rollout screen for it uh and i found this this overhead projection projector and but it was different it's portable the whole thing folds up into like a brief size container so like it collapses to be smaller the arm with the mirror on it folds into it
Starting point is 00:56:26 it's so cool it has so many features too this was like this was this was the highest tech although I will say they still make these things and for some reason they cost hundreds of dollars I don't know watch like brand new ones it's probably to screw it's probably to gouge the schools because they all have to buy them or something yeah could be and i also learned i've i've been talking a lot about this in my this thing in my videos and i got a lot of feedback apparently these are still the standard in germany yeah really yes now they're in when i was in uh college um we had something similar to that but i think it was the artograph artograph projectors which did you didn't have to have something transparent on them right so you
Starting point is 00:57:07 you would set this thing down in a dark room projected on the wall but anything that you put underneath it it would then project on the wall so you could you could take one of your smaller drawings and then blow it up really big
Starting point is 00:57:22 and it wouldn't have to be on a piece of transparent film I think it was called an artograph so you didn't have to like I guess that just didn't require backlight right exactly I don't remember don't even know how that even worked
Starting point is 00:57:36 because so my neighbor had one of those you can still get those as well basically it's something you put on top of a piece of artwork it's got a light bulb in it that shines on the artwork and then mirror reflects it
Starting point is 00:57:50 through a lens up on the wall I remember using that one as a kid again you can still get those too they sell them they're like 50 bucks on Amazon oh look at that yeah no kidding wow I kind of want one the over head projector that I have
Starting point is 00:58:06 has actually been really useful. Oh, by the way, if you're curious, it's the brand name is Elmo. They're still around. Elmo is the brand. We had an Elmo at the newspaper software company that I worked for because we had, oh my God, I totally forgotten about this. So we had a thing that you plugged into the cereal port on your computer.
Starting point is 00:58:32 We had a Mac portable, which was anything but portable. This thing was massive. and it had video out and it would go into the side of this thing which was an LCD clear like LCD on a transparent screen Yeah my high school had one of those Yeah and then you just set it on top of
Starting point is 00:58:48 of Elmo and project it onto the wall That's how we did project like how we did video before Wow these are so expensive this one right here Which is essentially the artograph you're talking about Yeah 1200 you know thousand two hundred nine or you know $1,299 for that thing And they're a lot more like they've got interactive displays
Starting point is 00:59:05 so they're obviously moderated up some. Yeah, I mean, the ones now are more high-tech that they're actually shooting video, 4K video and projecting 4K video as opposed to the ones when Bill and I were using them as kids where it's just, it's mirrors. It's light and mirrors projecting on a wall. Yeah, old school.
Starting point is 00:59:22 So my particular model is the Elmo HP-285S, if you want to look that one up there on eBay, if you want to check them out. They're really cool. So I've been using it for just playing graphics, in my videos. Like using after effects? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:40 You motion graphics? Forget it. I'm using my overhead projector. There's a little transparent film. Yeah, and I can, so, all right, so when I was in middle school, my dad was a teacher at that school, and I would ride in with him in the morning,
Starting point is 00:59:55 and I'd have time in the morning, and the only thing in his classroom worth playing with was the overhead projector. So, with she said transparency, I was able to make little animations like overlay things over one another and then hand move them to puppet them basically So that's always an option
Starting point is 01:00:16 I'm gonna have to film some sort of stop motion that way at some point Oh dude that's a great idea I would love my support that very high You know what? You should talk about little rig characters and stuff I could maybe help you with that control This is the direction I'm going though And people are like leaning into AI art and everything
Starting point is 01:00:35 or motion graphics or I'm like no I want to go back every every graphic in my video I want to be filmed yeah you're you know what you're not wrong that there's kind of a trend back toward it because yeah it's like it's like vinyl and stuff people get into the old way uh this right here that I'm showing this is basically the school paper in my high school that I was the I was the staff cartoonist for we would make an entire newspaper on one of these like yeah yeah was like did you have The roly glue stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That barely works. I guess it's hot wax on the back of all the different parts that you'd then have to arrange and paste up. Yep, did the whole thing. Back then we would print from, you know, back at the time, it was a Mac S.E. or something. And it would, you know, all the desktop publishing, you'd print the words. And then we would literally be cutting out strip sentences and paragraphs and stuff and then pasting those with that wax. And it was a great time, dude. That was so much freaking fun.
Starting point is 01:01:33 It's probably very similar to. the younger people in our audience listening to us describe pasting up things manually on a light table or using a projector to make something larger that we can then trace and take our art and blow it up it's probably a lot like what we thought as kids about people who used blocks of lead to put letters on pieces of paper yeah yeah the Gutenberg press i think you're right i think that this is but it's just such a very specific thing of a childhood of a certain generation or two and there's just no there's no stopping me from loving this i just absolutely love it it's great that's great i hated school too but i like this stuff
Starting point is 01:02:15 this stuff was great but i hated the school i wasn't so mine i haven't used it for this yet but i can use mine to enlarge patterns and enlarge stuff in general which does also make it genuinely useful for costume making sure um but i do have to say that when i bought mine part of it was broken part of the transforming mechanism was broken so I used 3D printing to fix it nice made a brand new part that was perfect for it I got a video up on our YouTube channel about it folks are interested so yeah now it transforms just like it did when it was brand new it always feels good to use my 3D printers or something like that's something mechanical that works yeah that's awesome that's cool
Starting point is 01:02:58 that's the other cool thing is now we live in a time where you can go old school but you can augment new school with printing and other stuff. I freaking love that combination. So much. Yeah. I'll have, I have like several old LCD monitors just sitting around. I bet if I cracked one of them
Starting point is 01:03:15 open, I could lay it on top of that thing and get that that's the transparent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. You might be able to. I just have to find a PC that has Windows NT on it to really complete the look.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Just don't I'll put Millennium Edition on there because Emmy is the worst. The worst. It looks like you're trying to rip apart a monitor. Yeah. Can I help you with that? Can I do that? No, Clippy, go home.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Well, this is great. I want to see more of this. Are there videos of you doing anything with this thing yet? What are you doing? Just the one of me fixing it. The video we're filming right now is featured. So you'll see that in a week or two. Nice.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Or later this week. Nice. Can't wait to see it. Bill, I didn't expect today's topic, but I actually really like it. I'm in the mood for this kind of thing. Before you go and before you share a video for us, if you scroll up in this Discord,
Starting point is 01:04:08 you'll actually see some 3D stuff that I'm working on here. Look at that. Oh, you've got to follow my friend, Chris. He makes signs. He goes by Route 9 signs. Does he do like the neon tubing, the, like the... Like the faux LED neon lights? Yeah, he does all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I definitely want to... Please do, yeah, thank you. That's awesome. one where I'm like, because I don't have an AMS printer, right, with multiple spools. Right, yeah. So I'm doing this as like layers and saying, okay, I'm going to print blue up until
Starting point is 01:04:40 here and then I'm going to print orange up until here and then I'm going to print white, et cetera, et cetera. So that is my close-up of like getting these layers in here. That's really clever. Yeah, but if you don't stop, if you're not sitting there watching the thing, then you'll end up with like a bunch of white.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Like, uh, can you, um, set up a, a, um, And I use Prusa Slicer. I can set up a color swap. A G-code pause, not with any cubic's current beta. And I'm so bummed to switch to the beta. I wonder if I could roll back. But yeah, it's the most frustrating part because I have to manually watch.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And it doesn't even tell you, like, I know what layer I need to switch at, but their app doesn't even say what layer it's currently printing. So I can't say, oh, I need to wait one more layer. And then I'll pause it. Nope. Nope, no good. That's awesome. I'm impressed. I can't wait to see it all printed. I really love the idea. I've done a few things like that where I've designed it to print in different, because I don't have an AMS color selector either, so I have to either do it manually or paint it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Or paint it, yeah, which I had one field print that I'll send you a photo of just so you can see it, but the next one today hopefully goes better. Awesome. Nice. Bill, speaking of bonus content, anything you want to leave with this? Yeah. I shared the link to my Wolverine video there. Folks want to see that. but also one of our favorite channels NerdForge made they do a lot of bookbinding I haven't done that before I'm gonna have to give it a try
Starting point is 01:06:07 at some point so they made the Stormlight Archive books only gigantic and they are the full book they had all the text printed and everything they're insane oh that's so cool they're bound embossed they're so so good I love this woman's hair it's just so cool
Starting point is 01:06:23 yeah look at this thing she's holding holy shit she's like both main characters of arcane yeah yes she's half and half she's jinx and uh the other one and bye bye that's it uh the um uh this reminds me that place i went into this is what that book place i described looked like just crazy cool cool show this is amazing dude look at these gen z millennial young millennials doing cool shit yeah so full of energy yeah doing old take care of the old stuff because we're too lazy to do it now that's great bill as always yeah right is always doing that yeah right
Starting point is 01:06:59 Always, it's a pleasure. PunishProps.com. I hope you have a Merry Christmas. You bet. That's a plan. And let's get back together in the new year, all right? Okay. All right. I mean, Vegas in a couple months? Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Bill's coming to TMS Vegas. I'm excited. All right, man. Take it easy. We'll see you soon. There you go. Oh, look at them coloring this. They're making like the whole leather part.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's really cool. Yeah, dude. By the way, just got to say, you know, with Bill's knowledge, I think, you know, you guys might be screwed for Taskville. I'm just saying, like, if there's somebody out there who really knows how to think outside the box. We're screwed. For Taskville. It's Bill Duran, man.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Look at this part of this video where they get to actually unveil this. They give it to the creator. To Brandon Sanderson. Yeah, Brandon Sanderson gets it. That's so cool. I saw him on the freeway three days ago. I forgot to mention it on the show. A guy lives just like up the road, does not live very far at all.
Starting point is 01:07:58 lives in a massive mansion up there but super nice guy from all I've everything I've heard the nicest guy ever I've just only ever seen him that one time driving all right you know what you need to make here
Starting point is 01:08:12 this is from that tested video you need to figure out a way to make these like your own personal dirtied up grummy looking Vegas sign I mean what I'm building right now is not too far from from that it'd be cool to do a Vegas Vicky
Starting point is 01:08:26 oh yeah dude and have lights and all that and patterns. Yeah, a little LED lights in there. It wouldn't be that hard. I would love that. Make a little diorama somewhere. Have her leg kicking like a little motor, so her leg is always kicking.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, it would be amazing. Have like Frank Sinatra music coming out of a tiny speaker or something? That's a big project. All right, that is it for us today. Reminder noon today, Greg and I and crew over there at Fantastic Pixel Castle, doing an episode all around there. their new MMO. We got a lot to talk about and it's going to be fun. So come live if you can at frogpants.tv or you can check the podcast out later.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Everything for the show you can find at frogpants.com slash TMS. Everything should be on for a regular show tomorrow. There's a little bit of in the air about this dental appointment and when they're going to get me in. If something changes, if either we're late or we have to cancel or whatever, we'll let you know with as much advanced time notice as possible. But I just won't know until they get back to me today. So I'll let you guys know. That's it. Brian, let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:09:28 You got a song to play? I do. A guy named Francois wrote in, and you might recognize him from old ELR days. He says, hello, bugs and Speedy. I'm Francois, French guy from Canada, and I've been listening to the show for many years, then fell out of podcasting in general for a while, then recently got back to TMS, which I started to listen to while putting my newborn to sleep. Now, just to help me catch up, I have a few questions.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Okay. I'll let you answer these. Scott. All right. One, when is Obsidian? Oh, coming back. Oh, he is not coming back. But that doesn't mean that he's not doing great.
Starting point is 01:10:06 He's busy teaching at the university there in Columbia, but he's also doing tons of commission art. He's on fire. You should follow him on social media and stuff. His art is amazing. But he just doesn't, he's not in the podcasting world anymore. So maybe one day I get him back for a quick chat or something. I don't know. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:24 He's busy doing stuff. We talk all the time. he's doing great, you know, definitely worth seeking him out because his art has blown up. He's doing real good. Oh, cool. Yeah. Cool. Question number two, why is Dunaway only playing games? Um, because he, well, why is he only playing games? I mean, I get it, Monday and Wednesday and all that, but I think he's trying to figure out why this is an ELR that he's listening to. Yeah, you're actually wondering why this isn't extra live radio? Is that your... I'll go right to, I'll go right to question number three. Who is this other Brian fellow who keeps playing?
Starting point is 01:10:57 sweet songs. So he knows he knows to begin the email with a B&S intro and I love the show though at the end spoiler he gives us a love the show though but he doesn't know who I am well fine Francois I think he's taking the piss I think he is taking the piss I don't know what the
Starting point is 01:11:17 French phrase the French equivalent or the Montreal equivalent is of which I still French of taking the piss but he's taking the he's taking the He's taking the poutine, is what he's done. He's taking the poutine. He's taking the timbits out of us. He says, anyhow, you guys are doing great, and I love the show, though.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah, he knows. To keep up with this new trend, I'd like to request a song for absolutely no reason. To make a long story short, there was a Grey's Anatomy, cheap French copy that ran for two seasons here in Quebec. The only good thing that came out of that show was two great cover albums from Ariana Moffat and Curta Pira. Oh, how do you pronounce that? It looks like you should be pronounced Chord a Pirate, but I think it's,
Starting point is 01:11:58 I got corrected on this when I pronounced it, Cora to Pirate. And it's... Pirae? Parra. I don't know. Some French speaker in the chat room,
Starting point is 01:12:09 please correct me. Sure. Anyway, this, yeah, it was like Gray's Anatomy or kind of a little bit of ER as well. I'm trying to remember the name. It was trauma. It was called trauma.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And it was a series. And I know nothing about the show itself, but I know that there were three, I think, three really good cover albums that came out of it. Anyway, his request is, Brian, have fun to pick any song that you'd like to play.
Starting point is 01:12:40 That's it, Francois from Montreal. And he says, but if I had to pick one, it's the cover of You Know I'm No Good by Amy Winehouse. Guess what? That's one that I like so much. I've played it twice on Coverville on two separate occasions.
Starting point is 01:12:53 so happy to play that one. Yeah. Real quick question for Francois. Are you the Francois? You can answer this in an email or something, but are you the same Francois that used to ride motorcycle hogs down from Canada with Jeff Sire? Is this the guy? Because he had a guy that was always coming to everything.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And his name was also, Francois, I wonder if it's the same dude. Anyway, I'd be curious if that's his old buddy or not. But anyway. Okay. Oh, and Manaparte says, yep, it's pirate and French in English. So cure de pirate, cure de pirate, cure, cure, cure. Anyway, here is their cover of You Know I'm No Good from the soundtrack to trauma, season five from 2014 covering Amy Winehouse. Made you downstairs in the bar and heard.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You're rolled up sleeves and your skullty shirt. You said what did you do with him today and sniffed me out like I was tanker rail? Because you're my fellow, my guy and me you're stellar and fly by the time I'm out I'm out of the door You tear me down like Roger Marr I cheated myself Like I knew
Starting point is 01:14:34 I was I told you that I was troubled that I'm no good. Upstays in bed with my ex-boy. He's in a place, but I can't get joy. Thinking of you in the final throes. This is when my buzzer goes.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Run out to meet you Jeeves and Peter You say we're married because you're not bitter There'll be none have been no more I cried for you on the kitchen floor I cheated myself like I knew I would I told you that I told you that I was You know that I'm no good
Starting point is 01:15:59 Sweet reunion, Jamaica and Spain We're like how we here again i'm in the top here on the sea i'll lick your lips as i soak my feet then you notice little carpet burn my stomach drop and my guts churned you shrug and it's the worst who tries truly stuck the knife in fast I cheated myself I cheated myself like I knew I would I told you that I was troubled you know that I'm no good
Starting point is 01:17:11 I cheated myself Like I knew I was I told you I was troubled Yeah, you know That I know Good Oh, looks like someone just got their ears caught in the audio cookie jar at frogpants.com.
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