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Hello, everybody, and welcome to TMS.
It is the morning stream for December 19th, 2024.
I'm Scott Johnson.
And that's Brian Abbott.
Hello.
Yes. Welcome to Thursday's show.
We now have T-minus six days until Christmas.
Jeez.
I'm kidding.
Yeah.
Get out to Target.
Get those presents into the mail, folks.
If you're going to get anything out, you better get it out now.
Oh, that reminds me.
Yeah.
So yesterday I showed off that Nintendo controller that inspired like the way the print job
or the airbrushing job I want to do.
Yeah.
Let me show it.
I'd like to see this.
This is the show and tell portion of our show, and we like doing this a lot.
So children sit down.
There'll be cookies and juice later, all right?
So one more time, this is the Nintendo.
controller that I used as an example, and basically I was trying to figure out a way to make
Marvel snap frames that evoked the feeling of infinity rather than the actuality of the
infinity frame, because the infinity frame is a super reflective black frame that just reflects
all the things around it.
It really doesn't have any color itself.
But this is my airbrushed.
Oh, I like it.
Ooh, a little bit of star spatter in there.
Mm.
It looks good, man.
Yeah, it came out great.
That looks good, and we're just seeing it on your webcam.
I bet it looks even better in person.
It does.
I need to take a photo of it and put it on.
I've got to take a photo of it and put on the Etsy site, really, is what I need to do.
That's nice.
It's a good replication because, as we know, if you look at, like, the actual cards in that game,
or really any of these kind of games, even the fancy hearthstone cards,
they do things with their effects that are physically not possible.
Like, you couldn't.
Exactly.
You couldn't do it the way that they showed.
The snap cards are reflecting a thing that is not visible anywhere around the players.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so it came out really good.
Yeah, I'll take a picture of it and put it up online and then I'll put a copy on Etsy.
But I'm really, really happy.
And this is the first one I did where I separated out the number gems and the player name.
So the frame is one piece, and then each of these things are another piece, and they just go on there.
I have to widen things a little bit.
I had to do some sanding to get them to fit, but you can see there's a teeny little bit of a gap there more than I'd like the orange gem.
When you're looking at this thing straight on, can't even tell.
Sure.
And you can adjust that for future ones, right?
So you get more flushed.
I can adjust it for future ones.
Yeah, it's a little bit of Dremlin.
Yeah.
A little Dremlin will take care of that goodness.
According to Bill, a little Dremlin goes a long way.
It really does.
Dremel is a great little tool for resin, for fixing your resin prints.
probably well not so much your your filament ones because it just heats up the plastic and melts it
it doesn't oh it doesn't sand it away as well think of that yeah that would make sense you'd have to do you
probably more of a hand approach like uh yeah hand sanding and stuff yeah although i guess you could
go fast enough if you do yeah if you're the flash yeah if you're the flash oh speaking of which
we all i guess we all saw that superman trailer this morning or the teaser watched it right before
the show started and bryan
It gave me the feels.
It gave me the feels.
Oh, it is.
Wow.
Okay, nice.
I'm very excited.
Look, I have a soft spot for a couple of things he showed in this teaser.
I bet I know one of them.
It's got to be crypto.
Yeah, crypto, to some people, I know this is going to be true.
Some people, especially like the Snyderheads, they're going to see crypto and go, what the hell's a dog doing in here with a cape on?
Like, they're going to really have a problem with that, some people.
You're wrong, people.
You need to read the comics that Crypto comes from.
You need to see some of the amazing stories.
storylines that involve him.
I'm stoked about that.
It's great that we get both a crypto and a doge in the same trailer.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't like Guy Gardner's hair.
I'll just put that out there.
Oh, yeah.
There's maybe something to that.
We'll find out.
I don't know.
But the use of that, the arrangement of that John Williams' music, oh, man.
Yes, yes.
The hearkening back to the, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
It's a little bit of a cheat to get me feeling.
in a certain way. I understand that.
I acknowledge that, but I am here for it.
And they made me feel good. And there's color.
This thing's full of color.
Yes, exactly. It's not muted and dour.
That's the thing I'm excited about.
I'm hoping, you know, it's James Gunn.
So undoubtedly, there'll be some more, there'll be more humor in it than we didn't.
It's evident in the trailer.
Yeah.
But I, you know, I guess I don't think he's going to
go overboard and that's right and that's good that's the right thing it's superman there's a little
bit of reverence um you can go a little sillier with um batman's rogues gallery you can go silly with
uh um some of the other care obviously harley quinn and and uh suicide squad and things like
that but superman has got to be if there's if there's a funny scale superman needs to be kind
of like on the four five out of ten as opposed to the suicide squad nine out of ten i agree and they
need to do it
where it belongs
with Lois and Jimmy
right
and you know
what's the guy
who was a Perry
Perry White
that kind of stuff
yeah yeah
I do like Nick O'Holt
as
oh yeah dude
he looks great
he just needs to look
at the camera
and say witness me
and slowly die
in a car crash
reset the
reset the counters folks
yep clock
get that time
put that up in a while
where the hell is it
there it is
reset the clock
anyway
yeah
I'm suitable
I was already excited, but I'm, in gun, I trust.
He hasn't let me down before, so we'll just see.
But they could drop the legends from the name, though.
I don't know if you noticed that.
Oh, I didn't notice that.
Yeah, it just says Superman now.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Okay.
Well, hey, that's fine.
I think he read some interview.
He said it was just starting to feel like we were going to do a bunch of prequels
or prequel sounding storyline stuff and we're not.
Yeah.
No, and I don't see.
any, thank goodness, I don't see any,
oh no, krypton's exploding.
We better send our baby away.
Okay, let's get him there.
Hey, I'm Monpa Kettle.
Yeah.
Kent.
The have a whole different movie, wouldn't it?
Mom, Paw Kettle.
Yeah, then it'd be Clark Kettle.
Clark Kettle goes to the big city and becomes a fancy reporter.
Yeah, I have really high hopes, and I think that
everything just looked great and that music killed me, dude.
Freaking so good.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, that's going on.
Are we going to get the origin where Superman's parents die in an alley behind the...
Martha, how did you know that name?
I hope we never hear that again.
Oh, no, my pearls.
Yeah, I hope we never see that again.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Or, you know what?
If you're going to do it, do it in flashbacky stuff that's short.
I just don't need a full retelling of the origin story of Batman ever again.
I know how Superman got here.
We're good.
Unless you're going to tell a totally new story where
this is an alternate universe where
Superman crashed into a big
major city and was taken in by homeless people
or so you know if you're going to change it all up like that
fine but that's not what this is
this is the standard he landed
in the farm stuff these
fine old folks from Smallville
you know raised you as their own
like we know we know
and you can have him go back to Smallville and hang out
with Paw Kent and
you know give him advice it looks like
there's a moment there in the trailer
where he's talking to a guy looks older I assume
that's, I assume that's, uh, uh, what's his name, Kent? I don't know. Oh, Paw Kent. Looks
like it. I think so. It looks like he's close to death. Yeah, he looked pretty, he looked a little
rough. Uh, anyway, I'm excited. Bring it on. Let's do it. Uh, when is that? That's next summer,
or July 11th. 7.11, folks, go get a slurpy, uh, get your free slurpy and, uh, go see
Superman on the same day. We'll do a big local, uh, SLC tadpool thing. Nice. Yeah. We've got to get all
locals together. You got to help me plan that, Kevin, if you're out there listening.
Anyway, Brian, hey, we got a reminder real quick because these are just going to happen.
I'm going to bring these reminders in. It's just a way to get you guys stoked about this and
moving your butts. You have until January 31st, like a month and a half or a little less,
to submit your 32nd film festival entry over at frogpans.com slash film fest.
And the reason you're doing this is because you're going to get a bunch of prizes.
And we also want to see your awesome creativity.
The theme this year is, show us the origin story of a TMS meme.
And sorry, I'm pulling up the site.
Here we go.
Was it June 11?
Okay, June 11.
Sorry if I made a mistake on the Superman thing.
Oh, yeah.
A whole bunch of people would have missed it by a month if they listened to me.
Yeah.
I don't know how we would have.
We've averted disaster clearly by finding that out.
anyway go read all about the rules the rules are not hardcore they're just there so they're easy to
to read and there's a film entry form right there it's super simple uh not hard to do once you
finished your thing just send us a unlisted youtube link of your creation and you are entered to win
soon we'll have news on prizes i want to make it awesome so we're working on like a combination
of digital physical stuff all kind of across the board um anyway that is at frogpans.com
slash film fest get your entries in today well not today
how about soon yeah soon start thinking about them today though start figuring out what
meme you like and there's there's a TMS wiki if you if you search I don't know the
is it wiki dot frogpants or something um I found it for somebody the other day who's
asking about it and um frogpants dot fandom dot com there it is frogpance wiki is there a
yeah and there's tadpool is that the one there is a um there's a few things means um let's see here
hold on there's a thing with memes that says much like the frogpants podcast the tadpull has developed
its own memes inside jokes and culture here are some examples
customary to greet everyone entering the tadpool uh role play as one hugs two sharing bacon three
throwing bricks of love yeah wow it goes back yeah nobody's doing that anymore yeah i mean i guess
bacon gets shared still by Zoe
but whatever.
It's also customary to get the hosts and
to talk about it. That's not it.
During Darrell. Okay, they talk about
Darrell. Well, they don't have very many
here though. Let's see.
Here's a better
Oh, wow, this one doesn't have many at all.
We should make a list and just give them the
list. Yeah. Stephanie,
can you help us with that? Because you were doing the whole
listen through. And there was somebody else who was
like cataloging. Oh,
here's the first time Brian did
this or here's the first time scott did the yeah i yeah we don't even need all we need really is
is the name of the thing so much don't really need right days or anything takes a lot of time i say
many hands make light work there you go take takes a village genie that's why i'm your middle
manager for uh that's right right scott's the CEO of middle management and uh yeah and our
and our shareholders meeting is a rough one this year so genie get in line right right exactly yeah
Just kidding.
I want to hear those reports on how our fourth quarter earnings.
Yeah, we need to find out how, do we need to put a pin in it and swing back around next quarter?
Because hopefully the synergy for that way.
Yeah, we need as much synergy as possible.
Brian and also we need to find out if this was the dessert you meant.
Yeah, for the morning stream, good-day you two indictments of the American education system.
I think the dessert that Brian is thinking of is beaten mess, which is.
that are named after the Snoopy College in Britain.
Thanks, guys.
Is that...
I couldn't tell if he was...
If that was a real accent or if he was taking the piss, basically.
Well, he's heard from him before.
He is in Brisbane.
He's in Australia, but...
He is. Okay. All right.
But I'm not sure what he called it, and that's where I'm struggling.
Eat mess, which is absolutely 100% the dessert that I was trying to think of.
I was confusing Brighton and I was probably confusing.
Oh, no.
Breton.
Britain was the city.
And I was trying to think of like, Breton something, Britain something.
But really, it's just eaten, eaten mess.
Eat and mess.
And if you look at this thing, it is accurately named.
E-T-O-N-M-E-S-S.
It is like just a, it's like you took a parfait and just dumped it on a plate.
Oh, look at this, dude.
Yeah, that's a bit of a mess.
but I'd eat it.
Yeah.
Wow.
And, you know,
eating may be a snooty college,
but that's where
the members of the jam went, I think.
Oh.
Maybe not.
The jam?
Do I know the jam?
I don't think I know the jam.
You know the jam.
Do I?
The bitterest pill I had to swallow is the jam.
Oh.
How about?
No, no connection to...
Nothing.
No, nothing, Jay.
Not that.
Who am I thinking of?
The only Australian bands I know for sure are in excess.
Uh, no, their jam is English.
Oh, they're English.
Eaton is an English, uh, British college.
Oh, okay, I got you.
English college, I think.
I think it's in England.
Right.
So the prison colony got a hold of their dessert really is what this is going on.
Yes.
That looks fantastic.
I'm looking at a big bunch of it there.
I know.
Doesn't that look great?
It just looks like, it really just looks like fruit and whipped cream, but I know there's
way more in there than that because they, they made it once, I think, on the,
uh, on one of the Christmas bakeoffs or New Year's bakeoffs.
That makes sense.
Did, uh, did, did Paul?
Hollywood Lear at a young contestant
He doesn't do that
A little bit
I don't think he gets creepy with him
He just gets he's just that
That level of creepy with everybody
But not sexually creepy
Well didn't he didn't he end up
What was the deal?
He had an affair with one of the presenters
There was a scandal thing
There was something
His wife left him because he was getting it on
With somebody on the show
I don't remember if it was a contestant
Or like a presenter or something
It wasn't it wasn't Prue or any of those people
it was like um i know the i don't think the first uh two women uh gully man guliman and and uh susan oh shoot what's her name uh i don't think either of them would have accepted his advances i would think i would think not based on other things i've heard but yes i know where you're going with that uh let's see oh yeah sure enough there is marcella
Billadolid. During his stint on the American baking competition,
2013, he fell into a sticky scandal.
Embroiled and unfair with co-host, Marcella, Valladolid.
So apparently they're...
It led to a temporary split from his wife, Alexandra.
Yeah, now they're, I guess, they're back together and fine now, but, uh, I mean,
you know, you're like, hey, I'm the baking, I'm the baking lord.
Look at me. No one's cooler than me. And, you know, I don't know.
Exactly. That's the, that's the, that's the,
typical Paul Hollywood leer and stare and glare is the, you know, not quite the,
what the hell am I doing on this show, but like the, what the hell are you doing on this show?
Yeah.
You saw you bought a mess.
I also think somebody whose name is Paul Hollywood, just expect some rough seas.
All right.
That's just how it is.
Anyway, well, there you go.
Speaking of desserts, all right?
Yes.
Let us do this.
Uh-oh.
Almost washed your first.
food down. Look at this.
Mike Picholik,
great patron of the arts.
Exactly. He sent us a Coca-Cola
flavored Oreo pack.
And Brian and I were remarking earlier how
they made a little bottle shape out of it,
which I think is kind of great.
You get some forced perspective there, but I like it.
So I've never tried this, and apparently this
is a thing that people do on the regular
where you drink Coke and eat Oreos,
like separately apart from
this flavor. They apparently
like the combination of the chocolate and
Which sounds wrong to me. I'll be honest, Brian.
Oh, my gosh. The smell. When you open that container is, it is like sticking your nose deep into a bottle of Coke.
Oh, my gosh. Oh, wow. But you know what it is? It's the gummy Coke bottles is the smell.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those bottles. I used to love the Dr. Pepper ones when I was a kid.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. All right. So another thing of note here, you got a red top cookie.
got a bottom brown cookie
and it's more brown than
it's just I don't know
it's a different brown
Oh really the brown looks the same
Yeah maybe it's the same
I think it's the same
But the idea here is that
You still get the chocolate
I assume that this is the Coke flavor
And I don't know what they did
At the middle
Although you said there are pop rocks in this
There are pop rocks in here
To give you the carbonate it's carbonated stuff
I'm scared
Not double stuff but carbonated stuff
This just seems like
This is a cookie to give people diabetes
but let's give it a shot.
Well, yeah.
Let's see.
Oh, sure enough, it's got the pop rocks.
Mm-hmm.
You know what?
That isn't bad.
No, I think it's fine.
Oh, weird.
The pop rocks act as like carbonation, basically.
Yeah, but they're not, they're not as,
it's not as many pop rocks as I was expecting.
Yeah.
Like, I was thinking it was going to be like,
like, you know, downing a whole...
Yeah.
This isn't too bad.
This isn't too bad.
You know what?
I would call this a decent Christmas time flavor.
It is.
And you know, the...
I'm not eating anymore, but...
It kind of is.
The, uh, it's subtle.
It's more subtle than I was expecting.
Yeah.
The chocolate is still very prominent, so...
Yeah.
It's very good.
Yeah.
I'm surprised.
I thought I was going to hate that.
I expected to.
Let's see what the sugar content is.
I think the, uh,
I think the, uh,
I think I think I like,
it better than the
um
than the coke
uh that tastes like
Oreos I think I like the Oreas that tastes like Coke better
oh yeah I've never you were the only one that's tried that right
you've tried the Coke it says to just try the red cookie because it's the Coke
flavor that's the Coke end okay so but you've tried the drink right I have not
done that
hmm I don't know very subtle not super sweet at all
which I really like
the cream's definitely got more of the Coke flavor
yeah oh really yeah I'm trying it by itself
I just I just ate all the cream
these are vegan by the way I know if you knew that
I did not know that orioes are vegan
famously according to well I say famously
according to Oreo themselves they are famous for being a vegan
alternative okay 12 grams added sugars
24% overall of your daily valued sugar intake
that's a lot of sugar
So I would recommend going easy on those.
How many cookies is that?
Oh, good question.
That might be total.
Oh, no.
No, they're not going to say serving size is one whole container.
Serving size is two cookies serving size.
Okay.
Per serving 12 grams of sugar total.
And that's see, that's 12.
That's funny.
Total sugars, 12 grams, included 12 grams.
included 12 grams added sugars.
So the sugars in total are the added ones.
Yeah.
There's no like natural sugars and then they're like, yep.
There's nothing natural about the Oreo.
Come on now.
I mean, it's a pretty, that's pretty sugary.
Not the worst thing you can put in your mouth sugar-wise, but it's, you know, it's up there.
Regular Oreas aren't too bad.
And especially the thins, they're not, like, loaded.
I can probably eat three or four of those, you know.
Four is the serving size they recommend on the Oreo Thins.
Yeah.
This one's two, did we say?
Yeah, two.
that makes sense double it and then the double stuffs it was it one
I think zero is a serving the recommended serving size of double stuff Oreos
oh man I remember being a little kid when those came out like 77 or something like that
and I remember being like this is the greatest day in mankind's history
I said today is going to save me so much time and I don't have to manually pull the cookies
apart and make my own double stuff cookies yeah I freaking loved it can't do them now though
anyway there's a mega stuff bobby there's like bigger than double stuff is there really like
oh i gotta see who's that for mega stuff who are those four let's see they're just ain't enough
stuff oh my god look at that that's like an ice cream sandwich is what that is oh no yeah it really
is there you go chat look at oh and then there's most stuff so there's even there's even one above
mega of course there is oh that is the most that's the most that's the most that's the most
stuff oh there's the words in the background you know let's see um yeah you ever do the
you ever do the you ever do the serial the post orio or no no i'm here here's a great
photo that shows you it's almost like uh your t mobile bars or something let's see um but the in our
discord is a thin the regulars the double stuff the mega stuff and then the most stuff oh my gosh
dude look at these you guys how many bars how many bars are you getting yeah that's those
those are from mega stuff forward that's just bad idea yeah yeah i think even double stuff is too
much yeah go back to my childhood i'm in heaven now this is a bad idea i'm looking for one that's got
the amount of stuff uh from the thin one thin and one regular oreos there are one and a half
stuff you want to watch you want to read up or go down a rabbit hole about corporate infighting or
corporate fighting you've never seen in your life and that is the fight between the bisco
Oreo and the
they sound like medication
the other cookie
that they competed with. Oh yeah
hydrox. Hydrox. The Hydrox versus
Oreo stuff. Crazy.
The back and forth on that. Oh my gosh.
Price wars,
flavor wars. At one point
one of them took the lard out and then started
selling a bunch more and then I think it was Oreo reacted
and said fine, we're taking the lard out.
It was just like bra bra bra bra it was like
the most competitive cookie thing in the history
of cookies. It was crazy. And then they tried to get
their employees to go hail hydrops.
That didn't work. That didn't
work very well. No, it turns out people, at least
back then, frowned on the Nazis more than we do
today. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Hey, everybody. Guess what else
we got to hear it today? Time for
a Oreo to
have a, when the
Captain America movie comes out,
they need to do
Oreos that have the shield logo on one side
and the Hydra logo on the other side.
I like that. Plus, that feels like a little
stab at hydrox again, doesn't it?
It does. Exactly.
Keep those guys on their toes.
Exactly. Like, wait a minute. What are they doing?
Hydrox, when I was growing up, were terrible. I hated them.
Compare to Oreos. And then now, though, they're actually not bad. The hydroxes are okay.
I don't know. I don't know when I've had a hydrox. If I had one as a kid, if I've even ever had one.
I may not.
Can't remember who owns them now. It might be like Kroger, bottom up or somebody like that owns them now.
Anyway.
Tessered Dynamite says Hydrox is the one.
worst name for a cookie. I disagree. Look up digestive. Yeah. Yeah. You British and your digestives. Oh my gosh. That is the
worst name for a cookie. That does not feel like something you eat voluntarily. It feels like something your
doctor prescribes for you. Is that called that because they got like fiber in it or something and
they're good for digestion? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. The British will have to explain
yourselves. We don't understand how you people work. Yeah. How did that? Maybe maybe one of our
UK listeners could read and say, why do he, here's why they call them digestives. Yeah.
We didn't leave because we wanted our independence.
We left because of you guys calling a cookie a digestive.
Exactly.
Forget about tea prices.
We want to start an own country.
We could call a cookie a cookie.
Yeah.
We get all hung up on the tea in the harbor and all that.
Uh-uh.
Right.
It was your shitty cookies.
All right.
Final note before we get moving here, tomorrow, TMS Friday for patrons.
You guys are going to want to be there because apparently Brian's prepared a little something cool.
What are you doing to me tomorrow?
I have.
I'm going to give you a movie, a Christmas.
Christmas movie trivia quiz.
Sweet.
You know, what is, what's a home alone kid's middle name?
Or how many floors did Hans fall down when Bruce Willis pushed him out of Nakatomi Plaza?
I like it.
Neither of those questions will be on the quiz, by the way.
So, oh, well.
I had, for the first time ever, Kim, watched Bad Santa with me last night.
Oh, nice.
Did she like it?
She loved it.
Good.
I wasn't sure.
How's it going to go?
Just because that movie's very crass, very dark, very, you know, it's comedy, but it's dark, dark comedy.
But it has some heart, and that's where it wins you over.
So I think, I think she liked it on all those levels.
But it is pretty weird to see a very sexually expressive Lorelei Gilmore.
Oh, right, because it's, yeah, Lauren Graham.
Yeah, it throws you a little bit at first.
You're just like, oh, right, okay.
Hello.
Hello there.
she was on my laminated list for a while
back in the
I think she was
it was a character that she played on
Caroline in the City I think
she made the rounds early on
Seinfeld
she did like yeah she was exactly
she was all over all those sitcoms
and yeah she was the one on Seinfeld
where her and her mother
and law were trying to put Jerry
make Jerry the highest
quick dial on her phone
oh right right moving up
list like the rankings yes you remember how well I watch that now and I just go
quick die what are you guys like what an old what an ancient era like what are we even doing
so crazy anyway she's really good on that too but I like her a lot and I think she brings a lot
to bad Santa but it is shocking to see her in the situations where you're just like oh hello
Lauren Graham this isn't quite what I'm used to from you anyway that's tomorrow be here
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Brian, let's dive into some news coverage here
on our very news-focused product we make here.
I don't watch the news.
Be neither, kid.
It's the news, and it's brought to you by.
Brought to you by Coverville,
where I am furiously, I've got my entire team of people working on sussing out the best covers of 2024.
The 40 best, to be specific.
Right now we've got it pired down to 64 songs that are getting rated as we speak.
I'm looking at the team right now, and there's paper, they're all over the place.
They've all got those visors, not full-on hats, but just visors.
Sure.
There's calculators all over the place.
That guy's playing Gallagher.
Um, but, uh, anyway, they're, they're all working scrambling, uh, to get this done.
Won't be done today, though. Uh, so look for part one and part two to be released next week,
part one early in the week, probably, um, Monday, uh, part two probably on Thursday.
Nice. That's great. A little Christmas week, uh, drops like that. I like that. Exactly. A little
Christmas bonus for you, two-part Christmas bonus. I like it. I'm in. You know who would like that?
Paul Hollywood would like that. Paul Hollywood would like that.
Sorry. It's not giving somebody a soggy bottle. That's right. What?
but hello too crispy hello uh hey here's a here's a story for you if you like flying um an airplane
got grounded for four days because 132 hamsters escaped on board get these mother eff and hamsters
off my mother effin plane cue the cue the samuel jackson line yeah great hamster hamster
flight it's a lot of him think it was a key of soul no but i'll
There's people of a certain age who will have no idea what that joke, what it means.
Why the kiosol and hamsters are referenced together.
You all missed out on a very important cultural pinpoint of our lives.
That's right.
Exactly.
And that's your fault.
So you'll look it up.
Anyways, granted for four days at a Portuguese airport when 132 hamsters escape from boxes in the cargo hold.
The TAP Air Portugal flight from Lisbon to Ponta Delgada, I believe, airport.
Ponte Elgada
Ponte Elgada
Featured a full contingent of passengers
As well as hamsters, ferrets, and birds
On route to a big pet store deal
That's how they get these around, I guess
Flight ended up grounded in Ponte delgada
When 132 hamsters were found to escape from the cargo hold
Officials said the plane was kept to the airport
For safety reasons
As the hamsters could pose a risk to the plane's electrical wires
They chew through shit
And they do, I had hamsters. They bite through everything.
thing, so.
Nah through,
yeah, it's those teeth.
They got to keep
working those teeth.
Yeah, that's a movie
I'd watch, though.
Our plane went down.
What from?
They chewed through the wiring.
Hamsters on a plane.
Yeah, and then just
eat the hamsters
instead of each other or something.
Let's release the snakes.
Those will get rid of the hamsters.
Oh, no.
Now we've got a snake problem.
Birds, we need hawks.
Oh, no, we have too many hawks.
Yeah.
This is what humans do.
We screw up the ecosystem.
Right.
Anyway, workers spent days scouring the
plane for loose rodents and the Airbus A320 or 320 or A320, I guess, is how you'd say it, not an A320.
Anyway, finally returned to Lisbon on Sunday. So everything's fine. All accounted for,
I assume that the hamsters are alive and off to their destination. I don't know. I hope none of
them perished because it's not their fault that humans are weird. Put them in, you know, just put
them in 132 little roller balls like those little plastic balls and have them go around the plane.
great crashing into each other and they can't chew the wires it's like it's like that scene in planes
trains and automobiles and the train breaks down and they all have to walk to the rest of the way
put them all in little balls and say sorry it's just you know you're on the way to wichita or wherever
the hell you're going you got to just got to visualize though the plane touching down and hitting
the brakes and all of those balls going oh man imagine yeah all right now there's a
Pixar movie in this.
That sounds fun, doesn't it?
Yeah, it's sign up for that.
Here's a story about New York men.
Okay.
New York men, Ian, we're looking at you, buddy.
If you're out there, I am sci-fi.
New York men die from pneumonia after using bat poop to grow marijuana.
Yep, all of these things.
Like, it is such, boy, talk about your A to B to C headline.
It makes perfect sense.
I don't even need to know the story behind it.
No, we actually, for once, this headline didn't bait us that just told us everything.
Exactly.
Well, of course you would die from pneumonia after use bat poop to grow marijuana.
Of course.
Yeah.
It seems like you're going to smoke that and it's from you had it in poo.
Like, of course you're in trouble.
Yeah.
Two men from upstate New York have died from a type of pneumonia after eating or using rather bat poop to grow cannabis.
These men who were based in a raw chair.
Let's get the latest batch old chum.
They developed fatal cases of histoplasmosis.
Yikes.
Dr. Calhoun, or Dr. Calhoun, what am I saying?
Dr. Who's our doctor?
Tolbert? Tolbert. What's wrong with me?
I just talked to him last night. He got this. Look at our code names and you'll see his name.
Oh, right. That code names game I started and never finished.
You didn't even start it. The first clue is to you and you haven't even selected words yet or selected codes yet.
Oh, no, I thought I started it. It said, all right, it's off to so-and-so to make their things.
and then I didn't know I was first.
Yeah, you're first.
Well, they picked, they gave you a word and you just have to figure out the cards that go with that.
Oh, shit.
I may have left it in a very stupid state is what I've done.
That's all right.
That's right.
Bay man, get the antihistoplasmosis spray.
I like it.
Holy histismosis.
Holy pneumonia.
I can't believe how many girls were getting in the 60s by a being.
Batman and Robin.
This marijuana is a very rich batch.
The Joker.
This stanky, this stanky weed is really...
Dank weed.
Do they still call it dank weed?
Yeah, dink, yeah.
Is that a thing still, I wonder with the kids?
I'm sure they do still, yeah.
Well, anyway, they were not named...
It's not even 420.
These were not named humans.
These were not, they haven't said who they are yet,
but they have been using the droppings to fertilize cannabis plants.
It is not immediately clear why they died, or when they died.
Why is not a question.
When is the question.
Exposure to bat guano among cannabis growers appears to be a recent trend that can lead to histoplasmosis, cases, and outbreaks, says the University of Rochester researchers.
In a recent report, bat poop is also known as guano.
Yes, I just, bang yes, mariguana.
Yep, mariguan.
Oh, good, just a big pole on a mariguanon cigarette.
A little mariglano.
Yeah.
I got a little second hand from a neighbor yesterday.
It's not legal here, obviously.
But I knew what I was smelling.
And I could see him over the fence and see them all sitting out there laughing around a fire pit.
And where are they going?
No, it was more like, oh, I don't know how to describe this laughter.
It wasn't typical, it wasn't stereotypical stoner laughter.
It was more like, like.
was it the Seth Rogen laughter?
A little bit.
Now that you say it.
It was a little bit like that.
Yeah.
And they had Rogan weed over there.
Rogan weed.
But they're sitting there and it's notable because,
A, I can smell it.
Just get that sickly sweet smell you get from it.
The minute you land in L.A. or Vegas, you smell it.
But the, so I can smell that.
And then they're around a fire.
So it's mixing with this like fire smell.
like campfire smell
and then I hear the
they have a bug zapper
going
every few minutes
and I don't know
what bugs you're getting
in the middle of December
yeah no kidding
but they were
it was buzzing so I don't know
maybe they were getting some second hand
those last those those bugs
that haven't quite figured out
that it's not winter right now
because it's too warm still
still beautiful out there
I'm looking at my
the Coverville outdoor weather cam
and acu
the coverville ACU
ecueather cam and it's just beautiful out right now green it feels like spring which is the
it's gonna screw our trees up is it will because the trees don't know yeah the trees are gonna be
like wait what the eff are you doing this is what people don't think about see with the climate
change and the whatnot that's right uh well anyway dumb people don't use baguano and your weed grow
growing no no all right i was gonna catch the ridler but then i got high and then i but then i got
huh oh that's but then i got high but then i got high but then i got high but then i got high
But then you got high
Was that your Robin?
That was my Robin.
Oh, wow.
But then you got high.
Yeah, you got a little Casey Cason in there.
The Burt Ward.
It's the best Burt Ward I've ever heard.
Oh, that's true.
I was doing more of the, yeah, I was doing more of the Burt Ward squeaky voice than the Casey Kaysam.
Oh, right.
Hey, Batman, the top 40 are coming.
Here's one coming all the way from Schenectady, New York.
It's so funny how he is in that.
Our dog snuffles.
He's all.
also he's also shaggy he's also yeah uh he's one of the speed racer kids or not speed racer but uh buggy speed buggy speed buggy speed buggy i think did a lot of warner brother stuff i think we forget just how prolific he was in the voice acting world even though it was the same voice in all of them basically it's the same voice and they just somebody said i guess it kind of sounds like a kid okay let's give him shaggy and robin and you know i feel like we have a good modern day version of what he is and some people say it's the guy who now hosts yeah people say
say, well, Sechrest is the closest thing you have to him.
I would actually argue Sechrest is closer to
Dick Clark. That's the comparison I would make is Dick Clark.
Yeah, but I would say, I mean, Dick Clark and Casey Kasem really two branches of the same tree.
I mean, they both got their start in radio, both hosts for big franchises.
I think the difference is, Dick Clark, very handsome and photogenic.
You don't think Seacrest is.
hands? No, he is too. He is two. That's what I'm saying. That's why those two are the same. I'm saying that
Casey Kasem is kind of weird looking. He looks like a, it looks like a Muppet or something.
Well, if you take, yeah, if you take looks out of it, then I think they're all cut from the same.
Yeah. The same branch. Same era too, really.
Same era. Yeah.
Well, except Sechrest, I guess he's a new version of that.
Except for Seacrest. But I wonder if there was any hatred between Dick Clark and Casey Kasem.
Like if there was a, oh, that'd be great.
Like a competitive.
of like a fight in a men's room somewhere in a hotel right exactly but it was like it was the
most well uh well pronounced and articulate fight ever it wouldn't be a fight of fist it would be a
well coming up i'm gonna give you a cross left into the into the side of your jaw
down a couple matches my fist in your face bandstand bandstand that's right but it do do do
Kate, right. Dr. Callahood, Dick did TV as well.
Dick Clark did, he also did a countdown, yeah.
America's Bandstand was on TV. Well, so it was also radio, but American Bandstand
became a television thing. He also did Dick Clark's Rock and Eve every year.
He did Dick Clark's, or what was the home, no, bloopers,
F-Uper's F-UPS and Screw-Ups.
Oh, right with McMahon, foul-ups, bleeps and blunders?
Yeah, yeah. Bloopers, bleeps and blunders, I think it was right.
And it was all like just bloopers and out.
takes from TV shows and stuff and for a while there he had Ron or Ron Don Rickles on
there sure and I remember as a kid I was which on which show it was the bloopers no no no
is Ed McMahon not Don Rickles but Rickles I think showed up later I think he joined oh did you
really like he really Rickles did that there was something like that something like I know and
it made me not like Rickles then and I remember just hearing about that makes me not like
Rickles oh man let's see
Rickles and Dick Clark.
I never remember that.
I stopped watching that show.
You know, just like I stopped watching America's Funniest Home videos.
Poor Bob Sagget, man, to have that be.
That was a bummer.
Yeah.
Oh, here it is.
So I guess he showed up on all a Dick Clark shit.
But I remember in particular, because we recorded that show.
I don't know why we were so into it here.
It's just so pre-internet, right?
Now you get all the bluepers.
It is so wholesome.
I mean, it is.
it's like wholesome family entertainment like the jokes were so bad though it just fell down on the
sled and yeah the jokes they would make in between i mean it was as bad as sagot stuff too it's just
like that's right because it was yeah it was like uh here's here's linda evans messing up one of her
lines on dynasty and then cracking up about it yeah and it just i don't know and the way they
would just like try to fill time when there wasn't an actual blooper that's right oh here it is
pranks it was pranks and stuff oh my god i find a dick van dyke no that's dick van dyke let's see here
I was trying to find a scene
There's got to be like
Somebody's got to have an archive
Of phallops bleeps and blunders on
Oh he started
He can't he's tried to revive this in 2000
With something called Dick Clark's
All New bloopers
I don't think that went well
No
I don't think that lasted very long
But I just remember
I remember going
This Don Rickles guy
And then but now he's one of
Like I look back now
He's my favorite comedians
Like I've freaking loved Don
So I'm looking at fallips, bleeps, and blenders.
It must have been something else.
The Clark and Ed McMahon one must have been called something else.
Because I'm looking at Fallips, bleeps, and blunders.
And it's Rickles and Steve Lawrence.
Oh, yeah.
I'm looking at it, too.
I've probably mixed these up.
Let's see.
Fallips, bleeps, and blunders.
That is the one.
I'm going to give you a link to a YouTube video.
This is fun for the, oh, TV's bloopers and practical jokes.
Thank you, Rick.
That's what the Dick Clark and Ed McMahon thing.
Bloopers and practical jokes.
You're right.
I have mixed those.
I've conflated the two.
Does, did he ever come on there?
Why have I, why have I done that?
Because to me, Dick Clark and Steve Lawrence are nothing like each other.
I don't know how I've done that.
No, but there's, you know, again, they're all from that same time period, right?
These guys are all like.
Yeah.
um appear on the roasts appear on love boat appear on the somebody's the donnie and marie's
variety show all that stuff kind of missed that era i wasn't even like you and i weren't even like
it wasn't even for us no it really wasn't but we were there as kids and we could see it happening on
you know celebrity crossword or whatever the hell we were watching yeah and all these same people
just parading in and out of each other's shit i don't know what it's like like like
Today, what's the version of this?
YouTube collaborations?
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, it must be, yeah.
Bubba Smith was on there, Don Adams.
I'm going to have to watch an episode of, let me see how far I can get into an episode of TV's bloopers and practical jokes.
Found a whole episode online.
You should try it.
I'm just going to see how much of it.
Yeah, try it.
It's like, here's somebody just messing up a line on the show, Amen.
All right.
I'll say this.
I'm going to say this.
I'll bet.
Here's my bet.
you'll get one joke in and feel like leaving.
I think that you'll stick it out longer,
but you'll feel like leaving a joke in.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it'll be so bad, it will land so poorly.
And the canned laughter that they add will be so fake that you're going to go,
oh, do I really?
But you'll stick it out for a little longer.
I'm sure I will.
Yeah, okay.
Because we're doing it for science, right?
We're doing for science.
And you see that they're bringing Hollywood squares back
because everybody's clamoring for Hollywood squares.
did not know that who's who's in charge drew barrymore i think is the um producer and probably
center square okay let's see here oh yeah see here all-star lineup um okay let's see cbs will kick
2025 off in a huge way on january 9th premiere of its reboot of hollywood squares uh let's see
host is Nate burleson i think oh drew barrymore center square oh
neighborlinson
yes
okay here it is
you get to pick
and say I want to be
center square
now here's your great
they've done this a bit
so they are doing this
but this is perfect
have it be mostly comedians
that's the way to do this
yes for sure
so you got Jeff Ross
Tyra Banks
she's not but she's kind of funny
Whitney Cummings comedian
Triumph the insult
comic dog up in the upper square
so the puppet
Tiffany Haddish
Thomas Lennon
Chelsea Peretti
Debbie Mazzer
Bobby Moynihan.
You know what?
I'm sort of in.
Yeah.
I've watched this.
Here's the,
here's the,
here's the,
here's the,
here's the,
that they give,
they've got the questions
already,
of course,
questions are already
given to the,
um,
the,
the,
the,
the,
the two answers,
the funny answer,
and then the real answer
that they're supposed to give.
Right.
Um,
and it's,
it's just so damn cringy of like,
uh,
all right,
well,
this,
uh,
this,
something that all people keep in their side table.
Well, I think it's a vibrating dildo.
My Paul Lynn.
But it was so scripted and cringy.
It's like none of these comedians are actually coming up with their jokey answers on the spot.
Or when they did, and sometimes something would sneak through kind of improvy, and you could tell.
You could feel it.
Because everybody would crack up because they see that that's not on the sheet.
Because they all have to have the same sheet because they don't know which square is going to get chosen.
And so they all have to have the pairs of the pairs of answers.
And Dr. Calhoun says match game is better than Hollywood squares on front meet?
No, you are dead right.
A match game, I feel like, is way more unscripted than Hollywood squares.
It's also more competition, you know, like this other thing is just an excuse to say,
well, if it's that up upper square, we're going to hear the insult dog say something funny now
and it's not really about the competition.
Circle gets the square.
Your pick.
Match game was way better.
I agree.
That guy who writes jokes for the Oscars?
Does it seem like there's a bit of an uptick here with the...
I know this happens every once while.
It's like a pattern, but right now there's...
Like, what's his name?
Jimmy Fallon, not Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, is hosting some new...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and then you got...
We started watching, or I started watching.
Like, while I'm cooking or something, I'll have it on the background,
so you can hear the trivia questions.
But it's Lavar Burton hosting the trivia.
Trivial Pursuit Game Show.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, how is that?
Every, everything out of Lovar Burton's mouth is like he's on stage for his one-man Hamlet.
It's like, we're going to give you a question from the science and nature category.
Oh, my Lord.
If you get it right, a hundred points will be added to your score.
I love him, but I don't think I love that.
You've got to watch a little bit of it.
It's on the CW.
you think you can watch it for free on the CW app.
Okay, I'll check it out.
Just give it two minutes, and you know what?
It might be some great audio for the show, as I say this, but it's...
Have you seen any of that Colin Yost celebrity...
Yes.
Jeopardy, or not Celebrity Jeopardy, but whatever it is.
We audition for it, and we didn't get picked.
Oh, did you now?
Yeah, me and Lori, Lori, who's been on Jeopardy, and Mark Whalen, we did the test.
We all scored high on the test.
We did not get the callback.
And Lori and I haven't talked to Mark Whalen about it, but we've been watching it.
And we're all like, we would have so freaking killed it on this thing, man.
Because it's like three, we are really three generations and it would have been really, really good to.
That's why they didn't pick you, though.
They want some dummies on there.
Maybe. They want some dummies.
Yeah.
Can't have everybody.
They want somebody to go, eh, do a leapa.
Do a leapa?
Do a leapa? Do a leap?
The way I look at it is, it's, it's, um, it's, um, it's, it's, um, it's, it's,
It's not celebrity.
It's pop culture trivia, and that probably leans into not being easier, but you're going
to find people who are just nuts about that, so they probably have to be a little careful
about who they choose.
I mean, basically pop culture trivia is what pub quizzes are.
Very little on the academics, very little on the sports, very little on anything else.
And that really fits with the vibe of a trivia team sending three of its members to play
Jeopardy as opposed to the...
Well, that would have been great.
They should have done it.
Yeah.
They should have let us in.
Maybe they still will.
Maybe, you know, maybe we'll get a, we'll get reached out to at some point saying,
all right, well, we didn't want you for the first season.
We'd like you for the second.
Yeah, get yanked by Yost.
You know?
That's right.
That's what we're talking about Jeannie.
It is the pop culture Jeopardy with, on Amazon Prime with Colin Jost is the one we're talking about.
Yeah.
I do like how he ends each show by saying, we'll see you next time on pop culture Jeopardy,
which is probably right now because you're probably just sitting there binging these.
He's great.
I like him a lot.
He is great, yeah.
Those two, him and Jay are awesome.
Boy, Scarlett Johansson did really well for herself.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she seemed to, seem to, she really, she really seemed to do it.
She really seemed to do well for herself with that college, you know.
Yeah, did all right.
I think it may have gone the other way.
Well, whatever, you know, I wonder if he and, do you think him and her ex get along,
Ryan Reynolds, you think they can talk and hang out and stuff?
Oh, yeah, probably.
Maybe.
I forgot that she was with him, but, man.
I think they're married for a minute.
Were they really?
I think so.
I could be wrong on that.
I feel like, you know, that's coming in after your husband is a Nobel Prize winner
and being like the follow-up husband.
It's like, well, Ryan Reynolds always used to wash the dishes after dinner.
Damn it.
All right.
Okay, I'm washing the dishes.
I'm doing the dishes.
I've got S&L in three hours.
Can I hurry?
Give me out of here.
Exactly.
Exactly, yes.
Ryan Reynolds and Scarlett Johansson married from 08 to 2011.
Oh, three years. Wow.
No kids.
Just them doing it like rabbits.
So there you go.
Don't tell Colin Joseph.
No.
He doesn't need to know any of that.
All right.
We'll just say joist kidding when we talk to him.
Jost kidding.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
Wendy's coming up right after this break.
We've got to play a song, though, to get to her.
So what do you got?
Yeah, we're going to bridge the gap between news and Wendy with punk heroes.
Bridge the Gap.
They're coming back this spring with a brand new LP called Gainsayer.
This is some Moroccan stuff, folks.
If you're familiar with this band, you'll really, really like this.
This is produced by Bill Stevenson, and they've got a music video for this as well.
The new song is called In The Throws.
Here is, Bridge the Gap.
The creature lurks within my bones, and I feel it lies in stars.
It's the dark night of the soul.
I'm the train that jump the truck.
I can't negotiate or pity with a lizard.
deep inside of me.
The gift of doubt this one that I am in the throes of giving up the ghost
and the battle rages ever on.
or the sea
I've told there's something
more like a bandit
laid over a self-inflicted
bullet hole
I tried to bargain
and I'll bet
but the phantom
never eases his head
clip on me
the gift of self
this squanders
I am in the prose
of giving up the ghost
Why, unwitting suffocation?
I will not concede my life belongs to me
And the battle rages on and on
I drop my god and then you win
A waiting real life to begin
A one in twenty chance to beat the art
We can't control what's in the past
A man makes plans and God just laughs
What fate awaits the few
Mark and disregard
That God's with law
I
I'm praying
I'm the ball and I'm down the matter door.
I am the burning questions from across the floor.
Trapped under lock and key, I'm a combination known to none but me.
I am the exiled in this desert of the free.
The freaks
The path to when this starts with me
Only your static state of being
At least for now
That is the dream
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Open your bag of ingredients.
Ugh.
Check for millipies.
You're out.
Suspended.
Definitely.
And we've returned.
Do tell me again who that was.
Sure.
A band from Salt Lake City, Utah,
recorded this album in Fort Collins, Colorado.
The band is Bridge the Gap,
and the new album is coming out in the spring.
It's called Gainsayer.
Check it out, but that's the first single, In the Throws.
Does Fort Collins known for like its studio recordings or anything?
It's got a great studio there called the Blasting Room.
Oh, I like that name.
Yeah, it's a great, great studio name.
That's awesome.
But I wouldn't say they're known for it anymore than Los Angeles, really.
All right.
Well, there you go.
Good job, Salt Lake, and Fort Collins.
Bridgett Gap, yeah.
Who are we calling now, Wendy, that's who?
Colin Wendy.
Yep.
For a last talk with Wendy.
Oh, yeah.
Before Christmas.
That's right. Let's see.
We'll talk to her after Christmas. We'll talk to her on Boxing Day.
Yeah, I would assume so. At least I would hope so.
Oh, no, we won't. We're off. We're off that week. Never mind. It's our last Wendy of the year.
Oh, it is our last Wendy of the year. We're...
My life is a cesspool. I am so, so sorry.
All right. This is just a little bit of therapy. It's a little therapy intro for you there.
A person needs therapy.
What is that from?
A movie I found, I forgot the name of the movie, but it has this British actress I really like.
she's doing an American accent there
but now I can't remember the name of the movie
but anyway I was hunting around for like
I was like you don't do something different at her last
one of the year and so I found one
personally sounds like they need therapy
yeah life is a successful
yeah it's not good anyway
hey it's
it's my sister Wendy she is a real
therapist helps people with real problems
all the time and she comes on this show
every week as often as we can have her
and talks about cool ways of helping you people
at home Wendy
we got, for our final one of the year,
we got this email.
Do you want to hear it or this text?
Yeah, yeah, let's hear it.
All right, we'll get right straight to it.
For TMS and for Wendy's segment,
Hey there, Froggers.
I have a topic for Wendy's, sorry, topic of discussion for Wendy.
I've seen other chatter online about Disney and arrested development.
We don't mean the show, we mean the concept.
Right, specifically Disney adults.
Disney adults.
They're called.
uh mostly or it says mostly is people blaming disney for turning society into perpetual children
and how damaging it is to the future of society i personally think it's just another scapegoat
and you could have the same arguments about people overtly expressed uh sorry obsessed with video games
anime sports or anything else i'd love to hear a professional opinion on it rather than just the noisy
anti-disney internet crowd says this anonymous poster um this struck me as interesting because
even if we, you know, we can get as specific about the Disney culture stuff as we want,
but it really is a bigger, it's a broader question about when people sort of stop.
I think there's a generation before us that we're like, all right, I'm now an adult,
all of my quote unquote toys go away.
I no longer read comic books.
I no longer go to Saturday matinee cartoons and I no longer care about action figures or whatever.
But then a lot of Gen X comes along.
We are heavily branded to with cartoons and tie-ins and serials and all this stuff.
And we have a lot of nostalgia for all that sort of thing.
So you have fully forged adults like Brian and I collecting a ton of Marvel, Star Wars, you know, video games, whatever it is.
And I could see why somebody would accuse somebody of saying, well, you're just stuck, you know, you can't br-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b.
because the opinion of some is that adults should be more mature somehow than that or whatever.
I feel like we had had some real progress of getting away from this stupid idea that this is a problem, but maybe not.
So, Wendy, with that, throw it to you, how do you want to approach this entire discussion, this topic?
Well, okay, so let's take a broad algorithmic view really quick.
I did not know there was an anti-Disney internet crowd.
oh yeah um there's an anti everything internet i assume so right but i feel like that's like punching
an innocent don't get me start in the anti therapy Thursday internet crowd oh they're they're rough
they are mean um yeah i mean i i get i get that right uh also like you're engaging in in this
for a reason because sometimes okay when you talk to somebody in there like have you seen this thing
and you're like, oh, I have seen that thing.
And you're like, okay, well, the algorithm has pinged us together and shared our, you know what I mean?
There's a, there's a connectivity that can sort of occur.
And then also, hey, what rabbit holes do I go down?
You know.
And this question is an interesting one because it's not one I have ever run into, ever on any of my online stuff,
partly because I clearly am not a Disney person.
I don't follow any of it.
And when people go to Disneyland, I'm like, yay.
Like, I have very little feeling about this.
And so I'm, like, learned a lot just reading this going, well, you know, the texture clearly has some skin in the game.
Yeah, exactly.
I have to wear eyeballs on the game, you know, so that's kind of fascinating to me.
And then the other thing, like, Scott, what you were saying, like, here comes a new generation with, like, a different take.
And that's, like, I guess, how progress works, right?
You have a new sense of, well, you have a new fandom that brewed and was created.
And I don't know, was Rosie the Riveter, everyone's fandom before that?
Like, I don't know what it was.
Prior generations necessarily, did they have as much access?
So would that have developed?
And this is just human nature.
You give a certain age group, certain things.
And then as they grow, nostalgia is real, right?
and that feeling of childhood joy and stuff.
I think, you know, obviously branding has played a role.
Do you connect to that?
Okay, so let's say Disney is that for you.
Actually, I think I sent this to you, Scott,
and I don't know if you saw it,
but it was a Gen Zier talking about,
this ties into what we talked about last week,
a Gen Zier talking about, like,
you're going to criticize the active drill,
active shooter drill kids
who spent hours and hours
of their school lives preparing
for a shooter. You want us to cry about one
CEO being shot in the street.
Right? And that is a
really apt example of this
same concept of like you are exposed
to certain things
that the generation before you
is not and what
sticks or what is part of
the other generation will criticize
which is the irony.
Anyway, okay, so
So you got Disney.
So let's just talk about what Disney does for people.
What does Disney think about it outside of these other options, like sports, anime games?
Like I think that they're right, that as if Disney was like, you know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to make everyone into children.
They're tapping into something versus, I think, creating it.
You could say some of it's created, I guess.
But it wouldn't have worked.
No one would have bought into it, you know.
Sure.
And that's true for games, anime, sports, anything else you might be really into, you're going to have something.
So let's just take Disney, though, specifically.
What is Disney?
What are elements of Disney?
I can speak to this because I don't consider myself a full-fledged Disney adult, but I'm still the type that likes going to Disneyland.
I still like, I'm going to see a Disney movie tonight.
So it's, it's, but it's no.
different than really any other franchise that's got characters that I like and that I care
about. As a matter of fact, it's no different because Marvel is now part of Disney. So it's
exactly got another franchise that I like and care about. But I don't know. I'm a fan
of the rides, the experience. If we're talking Disneyland, I still enjoy Space Mountain. I
still enjoy
Thunder Mountain
I still enjoy
a lot of that stuff
the gardens of the galaxy
drop ride
stuff like that
and the whole
experience that
they come up with
around that
it's not just
metal bars
that you're walking
to until it's time
to get on the ride
it's the experience
around it
but
but I don't know
you know
I don't have
Mickey Mouse
stickers all over
my car
I don't have
I've looked down really quick.
A bunch of Disney T-shirts.
I've got a few, a couple of them,
Stitch, because I do like the character's stitch.
But I'm trying to figure out what the line is between me
and a so-called, quote-unquote, Disney adult.
Yeah, because there...
And not that there's anything wrong with being a Disney adult.
I mean, if I like it to this degree,
what's wrong with somebody liking it more than I do?
Well, that's actually the meat, that's the meat on the bone here, right?
Like, is it a problem for anyone?
Why can't someone, like I have neighbors who every day wear some sort of Disney branded shirt who wear hats all the time that look like they're literally at the park and they're just here living their life and that go to Disneyland and have some kind of deal where they're going four or five times a year to Disneyland and they always go all in and it's insane and they cry when they leave.
Mitzula is there right now as a matter of fact.
I think he sent me some video yesterday from the park.
He's picking me up a couple of lightsaber crystals and stuff.
stuff like that. So, you know, he's one of these people that does manage to go lucky enough
to go a couple times a year and loves it. Yeah. And there's going to, and obviously there's
different levels of fandom out there. And so they're all whatever they are. But I look at that and just
go, okay, it's their thing. Why is it a problem that it's their thing? So this is where I,
this is where I break on almost anything. If they're doing something, if they're shooting people,
that's a problem for society. If they're throwing stuff off a tall buildings in the middle of a city,
That's a problem for society.
It's a big problem.
Yeah.
If they're getting a bunch of puppies in a box and burning them, that's a problem for society.
But if they're going to Disneyland a lot and they're way into it and make sure they go to the movies and get the best seats and they buy all the merch and everything, where is the problem?
Yeah.
They're not making you do it.
They're not making, you know, the people complaining about online.
They're not making you enjoy Disney.
They're enjoying it for themselves and why can't they?
And so that's why I think this whole subject is actually not really about Disney.
It's about people trying to control other people's wants and desires.
Exactly.
Like, there are people that get irritated by somebody else being very into a thing because
they're not into it.
They don't see that.
Okay, so why?
Why do you guys think that exist?
I think that's, um, I think, is it a jealousy thing that, man, I wish I liked something
as much as that lady likes Disney.
Like, is it, is it a jealousy thing or?
Maybe.
I think it's a control thing.
I think people like to feel like their opinions are right and they want everyone else.
to acknowledge that and also say that their opinions are right.
So I think it's a form of a very basic primal form of human control is to want everybody
else to adhere to your worldview.
And this goes deep and wide.
It can be about fandoms.
It can be about politics.
It can be about gender issues.
It can be about a million things.
But if it doesn't adhere to your particular worldview, you will sometimes fight to force
others to see it.
And, you know, look at most of the reasons most wars start.
It's because somebody believes a certain way and a culture that they're trying to convince it doesn't and what happens you fight.
So I think it's that.
This is like primal bull crap we do.
It's a control issue in my mind.
But Wendy, are either of us correct?
Well, I want someone to get a whiteboard out and write a column for Scott's column.
It's control for Brian's column.
It's jealousy.
and I think both points can sort of be made
and I'm going to give a that actually incorporates both of them a little bit
it actually explains the why of both of those we both win
you both win everyone gets a trip
and everyone's saying every by the way everybody especially Wendy and I are saying
both today not both oh yeah you guys both said both
we both Noel the L is gone noel
who says both with L's do I do that you did before you moved
and I did.
You and Scott both did.
I do it all the time.
It's something about how we were raised.
I don't know.
Now I have to like focus to say that.
That's interesting.
How does you say?
But I can say,
oop, anytime now,
I want to hear you say I have to wait for the gym.
Or no,
I have to wait for the train.
Say that phrase.
I have to wait for the train.
Okay, you did all right.
She knew exactly what you tried to get her and say.
Yeah.
She over-emphasized the word wait.
Yeah.
Yes, I did.
I did.
So my sweet youngest child picked up a waint from me and says it cannot stop.
And then he also picked up instead of saying until, in Swedish, she would say till, T-I-L.
And he, as a little kid, just said, tills.
So he is 12 walking around going, well, I'm not going to go there tills.
We get the phone call.
I love it.
You can't say it like that.
And then he says, wait.
And then he's picking up Midwestern.
It's a problem.
I love theater so much.
Oh, my gosh, that's great.
Um, okay, so yeah, let me, let me do some like, this, this will be the background.
We leave the view together.
Yeah, we're going to weave it together.
And those are, those are the sort of outward forms or emotional responses that you're going to get.
But those are defense mechanisms.
Jealousy is a defense mechanism and control is a defense mechanism.
Okay.
And so let's, let's talk about what might really be happening.
I think Disney in particular, uh, what I like about Disney.
is Disney has truly created a customer-centric,
like creating a joyful place for people?
How often, I mean, could the airlines take a freaking note?
You know what I mean?
Like, what would it be like if we had more spaces where our comfort,
I mean, granted, it's to make money and they do make a ton of money,
but there is so much to it that is aesthetics, design,
the way you're moved through spaces, you know, I might want to go as an adult without kids just
to see if it is more pleasant because it's so much more fun as an adult without kids.
Yeah, so I can see why, you know, there are Disney adults going, like, have you guys been here
without little people crying?
That's amazing.
Okay.
But so put that into the context of, you know, they've created something that does a very good
job at reducing stress.
I mean, think of like how clocks are used in that space.
I'm sure there are all sorts of secret handbooks about how this works, right?
Yeah, it's kind of like casinos, right, where the floor is super confusing and over-patterned and there are no clocks and the windows are all tinted so you can't tell what time it is.
Very similar things with Disney where, I mean, the most obvious one is every ride ends locking you through the gift shop.
Go buy a toy based on the experience that you just had on Space Mountain.
Yeah, they don't mess around.
But there is an overall pleasant childlike sort of wonder, surprise, music design.
Like, even the old stuff is, yeah, yeah, that's the gig, right?
I mean, think of the origin of it, right?
It was just this, like, farmland in California that had nothing.
Yeah, and they just dug out a river first and made, I mean, it's incredible when it really, like, go through the history.
Okay, so all that being said, what did.
does it tap into, you know, Disney probably himself had, you know, the vision and all the skills
and ability to get this to fruition. But this comes from a pretty young, youthful, playful space.
I don't know his childhood, but I actually should have looked that up before him. Anyway,
okay, so I'm just going to, you know, I have a hammer. So here's the nail that I'm seeing,
is that when people are mad at that, right? When they're struggling.
to understand. A, you can have the thing where you don't understand something because it is so
disconnected from you, but that's usually going to create a little curiosity, especially if it's
not harmful, right? So if I have no context for Disney, I'm from a different country, and I'm like,
what is this phenomenon? And I could just be curious, like, Americans do weird things. And you're
just sort of open because it's not in your frame of reference. But when you are not open to something,
And that's when people need to actually be the most curious.
Like, whoa, what is happening for me that I feel anti this or that, right?
Okay.
So I think the Disney one has a specific one because it's so childhood-based.
And if people didn't have childhoods like they do, I'd have no job.
Because childhood has a massive impact on development of self and sense of how the world works.
All of that stuff.
Okay.
So real quick, have either of you seen Inside Out 2?
yet no yes i have it bro i've been on it i know i've been putting it off streaming now on
disney plus i've been putting it off because i know i'm in for an emotional thing and i'm just i don't
know i just haven't been you not want to make carter cry what's the matter with you oh i'll
definitely yeah she and she'll avoid it because she knows i know that but yeah it's yeah it's so
good and a great illustration of like oh puberty really works it's really great anyway um okay
so the idea though that is you know your sense of self-fi
is developing with these various experiences and these various thoughts of like, who am I?
Am I a good person? Am I not? And, you know, spoiler alert, it's developing a sense of self,
okay? And so when a kid is going through life and there is something really traumatic that
happens, it could be abuse, it could be sort of chronic mom's never okay and I'm always having to
take care of her or dad's anger or violence or scarcity of actual resources.
and things, you know, emotional neglect, I got left at school.
It can be small and it can be big, right?
But you have these adult, I'm putting this in quote, adult problems put on a kid, okay?
Yeah.
And what that does is it burdens the child.
And they have to adjust or adapt in order to survive that burden that's been placed on them.
Sometimes it's a one-off burden that now makes you scared of snakes forever or something, right?
But often it can be like a chronic systemic thing that happens because of the neighborhood you're in,
because of the family you're in, et cetera.
And so this burdened kid,
I want you to think of it as like
the little innocent carefree kid got stuck
and the burdened child now has a bunch of protective responses
that come to play.
So these would be, in using my same terminology,
some defense mechanisms, right?
And so the kid at school who gets whatever they want for Christmas
and seems to have no problems in the world
while you are struggling and you know your parents
can't afford something.
That is an adult worry in a kid world.
And so are you going to just be your playful, happy self?
No, you're probably going to be a little bit more protected and probably a little ticked off
at that kid because that is the protective response.
The person who is having a good time over there, I can't.
For the same reasons they're having a good time, the opposite is true for me.
Okay.
So the amount of vulnerability or innocence or openness or curiosity, it's just hard to access that for someone else who's swimming in money while you are going without or whatever the burden may be or their loving family and your family just screams at home all the time, right?
So whatever it is, you've got this sort of closing ranks situation internally trying to protect you from the harm that is, you know, being face to face.
with I'm not safe, I'm not lovable, I'm not okay, whatever the messaging of these
burdens have put on you and your identity is sort of developed around. So this is complicated.
My part of the whiteboard needs to be much longer than your part. So I apologize.
But okay, so then we go on in life and we start developing stories about ourselves and like,
okay, I'm going to just work really hard or I'll get better grades than everyone else or
I will figure out other ways I'm going to be okay, and I start to build my life around some of those things.
And some of those things have to be more serious, right?
Like, they're not playful kid things.
These are, I have to work to help pay, help my mom pay the rent.
Like, that is a burden on a kid that theoretically we would all say, well, that shouldn't be there.
You're too young to have that happen.
But what it means is I start to develop seriousness, seriously.
or or parts of me that are really like I'm going to be the best at this or driven or I'm
angry or whatever those responses might be they don't they're not fun happy games okay so we go
along and then Disney comes along and is this option to go and be a kid and to like sort of
play and not be all serious um you take the movies they're obviously you know the history of
Disney is like, let's teach a little moral lesson and show it in this fun way.
Like, there is some losing yourself in a childhood kind of space.
And I think for some, they may be getting access to that free little unburdened kid by
doing it, right?
They might be playing in a way they, because it's orchestrated.
Yeah, it's orchestrated for them.
They can maybe now afford it or do it for themselves.
So it could be really healing for people to have that.
that childhood play.
And then for others, think of that kid is just locked away.
And so anything that looks like too much play or too simple or too carefree can also
feel really annoying and threatening.
And that might be like, I don't understand why someone is acting so childish and
hanging out at Disneyland when what should they be doing?
And then fill in the blank with the thing you think is an appropriate adult behavior
based on your opinion and your right um and so that's i think there's like a fundamental
variance that happens with childhood specific things so he man you know i watched he man a million
times right like that just brings me like it makes me laugh if someone quotes anything from it
or if i see his like his weird haircut or that great um fly to the concords when they're in london
Have you ever listened to their London live?
Oh my gosh.
It's so good.
It's just drop what you're doing.
Anyway, he talks about He-Man.
He's like, He-Man, double-masculine.
Anyway, it's just like going to bring me joy because it's connected to some fun, playful part of my childhood.
Am I going to make my whole personality about He-Man?
No, but that's mainly because I don't need it to be.
And some people might need it to be.
It brings comfort.
It gives identity.
it does a bunch of things that might have been missing or got smashed or got, you know,
just needs some nurturing.
And so that's what's happening.
Someone else might be having the exact flip reaction of like, no, if I'm acting childless or child
like I will be punished because when I was a child, I was punished.
So there's a deeper thread maybe for everyone.
And I also might just be overdoing it because I'm a therapist.
Yeah.
Could be.
Um, yeah, I just, um, my, my, my, the nagging feeling I have in the back of my head is that when you're a kid, so let's go back to when you're a kid. We have some more of our sort of baseline behaviors come out. So you see a kid, he's, you've got a Nintendo. He has a Sega. And you're like there's this weird competition now. You've picked sides kind of. Unfortunately, those sides were decided for you. Um,
marketing told you you were supposed to fight each other. Which one was better. What does
intend don't? Yeah, you bought into that because you're a kid and you think that's how things
really are. And I just see this stuff as an extension of that same primal, well, I did one thing
and you're not doing what I did. So therefore, we're opposite and why. And now I'm mad at you.
And unless you change to be like me, I'm not going to be like you. And that scales all the way up
to, you know, religious strife in this world or major factional changes. Or the
division in this country politically or whatever it may be it's like that same problem just blown
up and the way i look at it is especially for something like this it's like let them have their thing
it's okay it's not hurting anybody and you might say well they're just feeding into the capitalistic
system that is disney all right yeah they're not hurting me though let them do it i'm i do the same
thing with a couple other things i'm i have no room to talk you know yeah like i was i was looking at
my steam you know how you do the spotify wrap up in the air and
stuff like that.
Yeah.
Steam, which is the PC gaming platform.
They did it today.
It's called their replay.
Apparently, I played 600, here's my sheet.
I put it up for listeners to see when you might be able to see it too on your phone.
I don't know.
Anyway, 361 games played, a whole bunch of other data, including 238 of those are new games.
Now, that sounds insane.
All right.
Admittedly, I go into these things and I play like an arcade kind of.
beat everything i'll touch this touch that review it completion in the in each game yeah and i have
a show to talk about all this on so the reason i do it there's business reasons but all of that but
the truth is i absolutely love that world um you know we can blame dad for for getting us all
into it because of the freaking arcades in the house and stuff like that but um whatever the
reasons like this is this is a thing that i love from top to bottom i love the creation i love the
the weird politics of the gaming business
and how screwed up it is and it's fun to cover that
the games themselves, the creativity,
the changes happening now with AI and other stuff.
Like, this is my world.
I love this stuff.
Somebody's probably hearing me say this going,
lame.
What a waste.
He should be golfing every weekend like me
and spending that $300 a week.
Because that game isn't a, that's a man's game.
Yeah.
An adult game.
That's what you usually find out.
chasing a tiny ball.
That's what I usually find out.
I take a beer while you play it.
It's like people who are being critical that way are the same people who have their things
and expect everyone to be cool with their things, whether it's whatever, golf or, I don't know, whatever they're into.
Yeah.
Well, I think there's another factor here that let me throw in that might be helpful.
I think people are uncomfortable with how the world changes as they age as well, right?
Like, it gets scary to them.
I had a recent conversation with some family reconciliation after the election.
And so I'm excited.
Some of that work is starting and, you know, just helping people understand each other a little better.
And this, you know, the parents are quite old and they, you know, have seen a lot of life.
And I spent some time just like congratulating them on navigating how much the world has changed since they were young.
like that's a lot and and that change when we grip it to like it was only good when I was seven you know
I think that's part of it the simpler easier um way to wrap your head around something is when you felt
good and as things change and it's different and it doesn't make sense to you or you know your
grandkids are like you can't say that anymore grandma you're just like but what can I say you know
you start to have a it's hard to adjust to that so there is a maybe gripping on i need to have
things make sense and what i don't understand is someone who wants to play that many video games
there's no way that can be a serious person in my community my community must be going to to crap
if there's a guy around the corner who plays this many video games well of course you don't
understand how the world even works in that new thing and so you're going to
you know, here's a good family man to raise some great kids and there's a grandpa who plays
video games, which is like every kid's dream. And it's because it's, I'm not going to judge
the things you care about. And people are judging things other people care about often because
it scares them. It, it either hits there. I can't play and be a kid. I was forced into the
workforce where I had to let all of my inner child joy die so I could pay the bills to
feed my family. So there's maybe resentment that way or there's just, hey, the world is changing.
I don't understand it. And it scares me. So I am going to find a thing to make fun of. So I'm going
to tell a story. And I know my mother-in-law does not listen to the show. She used to, but I'm going
to tell it anyway. So I hope she doesn't listen to this one because it's out of all due respect.
But it was the funniest moment. And it was an exact example of something has changed and you just don't see
yourself in the change or the story and it's okay so we're we had to rent a big old
SUV so we could fit them in the car with us when we were together for Thanksgiving and at the
end of you know you turn the car off and this enormous picture of a car seat pops up on the
screen and is like alarm do you have your child for very good reasons as we all know right
also this thing is a bus I can't even see the backseat
Okay. And so this happens. And my mother-in-law, you know, from this is a woman who brought all of her children home sitting wrapped in a blanket like a like a burrito on the front seat of a car. That's how she, those were the car seat she started out with, which were none. Okay. And, you know, eventually had car seats, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, she just had her impulse was to make fun of that. Her impulse was to say like, who would ever leave their kid in a car?
As if that means, who are these horrible parents, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And it took a point, what, three seconds for all of her children to share a story about how she left them somewhere?
It was amazing.
Like, hey, remember when you left Ben at a random gas station in Ohio for two hours when he was five?
And do you remember?
And it was relentless and so funny.
and she's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
I guess I can understand how someone could leave a kid in a car seat.
And we were like, and also you had no car seats to leave them in.
They just got out, you know, like, you know, it was really one of those, like, generational moments of like, whoa, everyone should just be careful what you're criticizing.
Because if you don't get it for your context, that's because you've been away from it for a long time.
And so you don't quite understand it.
I don't think, like, when I'm looking at this email or the email, it's like, people blame Disney for creating this.
I just, yes, I guess Disney has a lot of power, but I don't, that's not the chicken.
That's the response to figuring out that people also need a way to express themselves that feels really wholesome, very fun, very, you know.
Sure.
And the curated pieces of that they do such a good job of.
Yeah, does it make them billions of dollars?
Yeah, it does.
If we want to talk about, you know, the economics of such things, that's one thing.
But there's people are just tapping into what people sort of need, right?
And yeah, so we're scared or it really is something we can't access so it feels threatening.
So I would say it kind of fits with both of what you're saying.
I just don't feel like it's as nefarious as your control theory is.
Yeah, I mean, maybe not.
Maybe it's a little extreme.
But I just think it's like little micro versions of that, like a micro dose of control.
Or what you'll see is like, somebody get on the news in the 90s and go,
a mortal combat is going to destroy our children.
And most of us could look at the news and go,
you don't know what you're talking about.
And then we're done with it.
And what you would have is probably a bunch of people listen into that and going,
yeah, they're right.
It is the work of the devil.
I can't believe mortal combat exists.
But we didn't hear from them because they didn't have a megaphone.
Yeah, they didn't have a megaphone to talk to us.
Now they do.
Right.
Good point.
all of them do everybody with any inkling of an opinion on the matter has a megaphone and so that to me
is the key difference today um and the obvious difference and that difference is enough to make things
seem worse or seem less uh or seem more you know what i mean like it just has this artificial
has this artificial thing going on with it i notice it being done to me when i'm on like ticot and ticot knows
that I just watched a horror movie.
I just watched Smile 2,
which I really enjoyed or recommend it soon.
But I just watched that.
And sure enough, because a lot of your links
and your stuff is going between browsers
and other stuff, it knows what I've seen recently.
And so it starts to feed me in the algorithm
videos about that movie, behind the scenes,
talking to this actor, why they did this.
Here's the director.
Here's the scene I forgot about
and somebody making commentary.
And they just start kind of showing up.
I think it's really important to be mindful that you are being, you are being targeted, targeted.
And you don't even take it as like nefarious, just that that's how the tech works.
And know that so that you're not going, oh, man, my impression is that the whole world's like me.
We all love a thing at the same time.
Obviously, because I'm getting all this stuff.
No, it really just came down to you.
You just watched it.
So they're giving you stuff they think you want to see right now.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's it.
Do you remember when mom got a Kindle and she was so worried about putting more books on it?
because she was, it was going to get heavy.
Heavy.
Yeah.
It was one of my favorite stories to tell.
I told, I think the first place I told it was on the show, but she, she was like, oh,
I can tell it's heavier now.
I put these extra books on it.
And I was like, and the worst part about it is we found, I went and researched it.
And there's truth to it, but not perceivable truth.
Not in a noticeable.
No, there's no way.
It's like quantum level.
It's quantum level.
There is weight to data, but it's so minuscule that no human's going to be able to tell.
You could put six billion books on that thing
If it would hold them, maybe it would
And you'd never notice that it was heavier or lighter
But the fact that she was right scientifically pissed me off
She never needs to know that by the way
Yeah, she was right at all
I don't think I told her
Okay, so when this, and you guys have kept up with so much
That maybe this doesn't happen very often
But it is coming for everyone, this same thing
And it came from me the other day
because Abe got me addicted to this stupid.
It's like Tetris, but nothing moves.
It's like block something.
And my brain was trained on Tetris.
So when I play this game, you don't get to manipulate the shapes or move them directions.
You just have to work with what exists.
And there is no amount, I mean, I guess I could do this for the next 20 years and see if I can retrain my brain.
But my brain is trained on Tetris.
And as I'm doing this game, I'm like, oh, okay, well, I guess my generation is showing.
Like, I can't do it.
And that feeling is hard, right?
It's hard to lose touch or it's hard to think you know how the world works and you don't.
And you take all the people who were parents in the 90s and were watching their kids play these games.
And there's three sources of news.
They were being told the same thing because it, you know, it got everyone's attention.
and so they but their sense already was that this game is taking my kid away from me okay
and then I'm told it's really scary and bad I'm going to buy into that I'm going to try to
restrict it I'm going to you know whatever you did then with your parenting and honestly it's a
generation showing itself it's trained in Tetris right and then you give them one million
sources of news and they don't know how algorithms work they don't know how any of the tech works
And the belief is similar to like, I'm being told the truth.
And so when I'm working with this family and we're talking about their news sources and why they would never see any news confirming that Donald Trump had raped someone, it's because their news feed never showed them that.
They never ever got to see.
And they were like, well, I heard rumors.
It sounds outrageous to them to them.
Like they hear that and they just go, oh, now you're having now you're doing this.
100%
Because what country do we live in
that we would elect someone
who was an actual rapist
is just, and they're using
all their framing
from decades and decades
of its women's fault,
decades and decades of
what was she wearing,
decades and decades of,
there's no way only good people,
only good white men are in power
in their minds, right?
And really that flip of
they didn't trust video games,
it's the same generation
that solely trusts Fox News
or so, like it ruins their brain
the way they were worried video games would ruin theirs.
And that's because the technology changed on them,
but their brain never updated to.
I shouldn't only get one source that is a,
it's going to just make me scared of everything.
So I think it attaches to this thing, right,
where we get scared of change or we get scared of risks.
There's other things that start happening as we get older.
And new kids always come along,
these youngans with their fan dangled ideas.
And this has been happening for a long, long time.
I think the big difference, though, is we actually listen to kids now and kids also have a microphone.
And so the fact that any generation has been fighting with another is both not totally real, obviously.
It's an online phenomenon.
It's not like, you know, grandparents are punching millennials when they walk by.
But the perception is that it is all that's happening, right?
So we have some differences that, you know, none of us are developmentally.
able to really handle so yeah good luck to us all that's the truth good luck to us all god bless us
everyone i just watched another one of those um well that's interesting i this this to me i don't know
why it just strikes at the base of a lot of our problems for me uh by we i mean it's yucking
the ums it's you know yeah and sometimes as adam puts it it's the inshittification of the internet
yeah adam's right right i don't know the last time you went on a public feed on facebook
but it's the stupidest stupid stuff I've ever seen in my life.
I don't think most of it's human beings.
Most of it's garbage AI with old people saying it's beautiful.
That's it.
That's the internet now.
Half that noise.
That sucks.
Yeah.
Don't want that.
No.
Right.
Let's go to Disneyland.
Yeah.
It's go to Disneyland.
Yeah.
Just wish it wasn't so damn expensive.
Disney adults for a day.
I'll get my stitch shirt, Tina grab her feeling magical t-shirt.
That's my only, my only beef is how expensive it all is.
I hate that.
God, it really is.
So expensive.
Anyway, what are you going to do?
Like, the original tickets for that place?
What, like $10 a person?
Oh, insane.
Yeah, but you had to buy, like, the tickets to get,
and then you had to separately buy the tickets for the ride.
So, I mean, yes, it was cheaper,
but probably with inflation stuff,
probably not that.
Yeah.
Probably not drastically cheaper like it appears to be.
It's like micro-transactions.
When you look at the origin,
like the very first video footage of Disneyland,
and you understand the background scene,
I mean, everywhere were workers trying to patch crap together, and it was not ready.
And do you know how it was funded?
The actual building, they did not have enough money to complete Disneyland.
The Nazis.
No, I mean, that makes sense.
That would totally, like, be an obvious one.
Boot starter.
No, it's, what's the guy with the hat?
They produced the show with the...
Daffed punk.
With the hat.
You know that there's so many hats, the raccoon, the raccoon hats.
Oh, yeah, like, Daniel Boone.
Baby Crockett, yeah, that Daniel Boone, that whole thing was like.
It was everything was sponsored.
Right, it was the mutual of Omaha space ride and the Tropicana Orange Juice, this.
And saving, taking the money that came from the sell of the hats, the proceeds from, that was the only reason we have to Disneyland is he had to fund it with another project he was not even excited about, apparently.
Yeah, that Tomfoyer Island was, it was huge when the place first opened.
Like, it was a big attraction.
And now it's where you go to hide from your kids.
And this is where I would love, I'd love some time travel where we could take Walt Disney and take him right now and say, here is the place that you built.
Like, it's just incredible, right?
Like, I don't know.
Who else would have future, whoever invented the train, you know?
Come look at a train in Japan, dude.
Yeah.
You want to see a train?
Holy shite.
That's right.
Yeah.
Those people know what they're doing.
All right.
Well, this is good stuff.
I hope everybody takes it to heart.
Great discussion for the Christmas holiday.
Maybe forget about critical people around you for a little bit here.
Enjoy your holiday.
And Wendy, you got any big plans for the?
Yes.
Yeah.
I do.
My plan is for everyone to go to KNOW Better You.
Use a letter.
No Better You.com.
And we fixed the landing page, sort of.
And so put in your email in the,
The next week, I'm going to start sending emails out, and they will be not obnoxious, I promise.
Yeah, so it's coming soon.
NobetterU.com.
That means N-A, like she said, K-N-O-W, better, and then the letter U.
dot com and go sign up.
And I bought a bunch of the other one, so it should get you there if you're like N-O-B-B-B-B-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-E-O-B-W-U.
Oh, that's a good idea.
That's smart, actually.
Yeah.
Well, well done.
It should all rewire itself.
Hopefully, if not, somebody, please send me a message.
Yeah.
Find a combination that doesn't work.
Let Wendy know at No Better You.
Thank you.
Admin at No Better You.com.
Yeah, no, I'm very excited.
Also, we're doing our annual watching all of the extended versions of the Lord of the Rings.
Nice.
And so speaking of algorithms, all my algorithm thinks I do is watch Lord of the Rings.
So there was one, and I will find it and share with you.
If anyone has a question about, yeah, it's about the lesson from Lord of the Rings.
and men's relationships.
And it's so good.
And I realize I've been exposing my kids to this show for this, you know, show, this movie for their whole lives.
And how interesting the dynamics actually are.
You just don't, you know, clearly there's no women who talk to each other in the movie.
But in male relationships, there's some really some cool lessons to learn.
So I would love to do an episode on like the influence of certain things.
on dynamics for people.
Anyway, I could send it to you, Scott, so you can see it.
Yeah, let's do it.
That's all my algorithm shows me is cool things about Lord of the Rings.
Yeah, and that'll happen for a while until you're not watching it anymore.
And they'll move on to whatever's next.
You're watching Yellowstone.
And then it's like, here's where you can buy a horse.
Yeah, here's the time Kevin Costner spit on a camera crew guy or whatever.
20 things you didn't know about Kevin Costner.
That's right.
None of which you really needed to know.
Wendy, have a fantastic week and Christmas.
We'll obviously talk to you right around Christmas, but give our best to the kids
and everybody and we'll talk to you
soon. Bye now. Bye.
Bye. Merry Christmas.
All right.
Brian, we did it.
Yes, sir. We did it.
I have confirmation that we did it because
I know.
You get the little achievement unlocked
thing popping. Popped right up.
Yep, finally got that achievement. I don't have to play this
particular day ever again.
Oh, thank goodness. Thank goodness. We're done with it.
But we do have some stuff coming up. So core at noon
today so if you're uh you want to get the latest and the greatest me john and beau meeting up about noon
so about an hour and 10 minutes from now uh so come check that out uh as brian mentioned with coverville
next week early next week yeah keep just basically keep your eye out um go to twitch dot tv slash coverville
and just click the little button that says notify me when brian goes live because i will go
live i will play a marvel snap deck while i'm doing the show and you guys can listen to the best
covers of the year. Nice.
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weekend. We're recording on Saturday.
Yeah, we're doing reindeer games. I don't think I've
seen it. I thought I had and I haven't.
I can't wait to hear. There's
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it
because we watched it last night
there's some stuff I forgot
there's some stuff I remember
and I can't wait to see what you think of it
okay I look forward to that
because I thought I'd seen it
I haven't I don't think
super young Furiosa in there too
oh my I'm excited about that
and with boobies too right there's boobies
with boobie and she's always had those though yeah those came
with the package
anyway
no TMS next week just a reminder Monday through Thursday
We are off for the holiday.
We do that every year.
But there will be a brand new instance episode on the 23rd.
So along with all that Coverville goodness,
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We'll talk about this Siren Isle thing that just landed on Tuesday.
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Get your film going.
Get your film going.
What is it?
It's a Paramount Plus for me.
It was where I watched.
reindeer games, but I think it's probably in a couple
places. Oh, is it? Okay, that's good to know.
Yeah. Okay, that's it. Let's play a song. Do you have a song?
All right. Yeah, this one's going out to September and Rob.
September said today, which was on the 16th, my dear friend Lisa passed on.
She was an amazing, intelligent, kind, and eclectic individual.
She's been our town's children's librarian for decades.
She loved live music and was an avid supporter of our local scene.
Her favorite Nirvana song was Heart-shaped Box.
and she'd light up when Rob played it.
Pretty and Pink was another of her favorite movies,
and I'd been hoping she'd be better and able to make it to a show soon
as he was recently working on that song.
I'm glad I took her Thanksgiving dinner this year to the library or to her house.
Her favorite book was The Great Gatsby,
and I'm always going to remember her in that world, as in that world.
Well, September, sorry to hear about your friend.
That sounds rough, and it sounds like she was quite a contributor to the community,
especially the children, the community with being a librarian.
You said Heart-shaped Box?
I think it's a great choice.
Let's go with a cover by Amber Mark.
This was a single that she released in 2020.
Here is Heart-shaped Box.
Oh, ooh.
Oh, who, who, who, who, oh, who, who, who, oh, who, who.
She eyes me like.
a Pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your heart-shaped box
for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnetar
pit tracks
Right
I wish I could eat your cancer
When you turned black
But
Hey
I've got a new complaint
Foreverended
To your prize
It's advice
Hey
Wait
A new complaint
Forever in debt
To your
Prices and vice
Yeah
Forever
And ever
And ever
Yeah
Meat eating
Your kids
Forgive no one
Just yet
Right
Cut myself from the angel hair
And babies
Yeah
Whoa
Hey
Wait
I've got a new
Oh babe
Forever in there
To your prize
This in my
Hey
Where
going to play forever ended to your priceless and vibes yeah forever and ever and ever
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